Order of Man - OoM 064： Tactical Training for Real-World Scenarios with Tony Sentmanat

00:00:00.000 As you know by now, every man has three major responsibilities to provide, to preside, and to

00:00:04.660 protect. Today, we shed some light on how you can be a better protector. In the wake of escalating

00:00:08.980 violence across the world, my guest today, Tony Sentmanat, shares with us how to improve your

00:00:12.740 situational awareness, the first place to start when working on your self-defense, and how to get

00:00:17.120 in more tactical training for threats and emergencies. You're a man of action. You live

00:00:22.300 life to the fullest. Embrace your fears and boldly chart your own path. When life knocks you down,

00:00:27.440 you get back up one more time, every time. You are not easily deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient,

00:00:34.960 strong. This is your life. This is who you are. This is who you will become. At the end of the day,

00:00:41.340 and after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man.

00:00:45.520 Men, what's going on today? My name is Ryan Michler, and I am your host and the founder of

00:00:49.320 Order of Man. I hope all is going well for you today. Just in case you are new here to this show,

00:00:53.500 this is a show about all things manly. We talk about fitness, wealth, manly know-how, relationships.

00:00:58.160 Today, specifically, we're talking about one of the primary roles that men play, and that is

00:01:03.020 that of a protector. Now, we're bringing you nothing but the best guests on each and every show,

00:01:08.020 and today is no different, but before I introduce you to him, know that all the links, the quotes,

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00:01:17.940 want to check out the show notes this week, especially if you don't typically, because I post an

00:01:21.860 incredible video of my guest today that will give you an in-depth look into his level of training.

00:01:27.960 It's unreal, and then also make sure you join our closed Facebook group for a deeper conversation.

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00:01:37.800 check that out at facebook.com slash groups slash order of men. Now, with all that said,

00:01:42.900 I want to introduce you to my guest, Tony Sentmanette. Tony is a Marine Corps veteran,

00:01:46.960 a law enforcement SWAT operator with over 18 years of real-world experience. He's

00:01:51.820 a lifelong practitioner in mixed martial arts, and he has extensive experience as a law enforcement

00:01:56.920 combatives trainer and has been a firearms instructor for over 16 years. He also has 15

00:02:02.420 years of experience as a functional strength and conditioning trainer, specializing in functional

00:02:06.140 fitness for combat athletes, and upon finishing his military service, he started in his law enforcement

00:02:11.680 career where he still works today. Tony spent most of his career in SWAT where he has been involved

00:02:16.960 with over 550 real-world missions throughout his entire career. In addition to his work

00:02:23.680 resume, Tony has received numerous awards, including multiple combat cross for police-involved

00:02:28.240 shootings, Officer of the Year and Crime Suppression Officer of the Year awards, several Officer of the

00:02:32.360 Month and Officer of the Quarter awards, and has received over 40 accommodations throughout his

00:02:36.460 career for meritorious service.

00:02:37.900 Tony, what's up, brother? Thanks for joining me on the show today, man. I'm glad you're here.

00:02:42.800 Hey, Ryan. It's a pleasure to be here, brother.

00:02:44.460 So I ran across your work literally probably a week or two ago. I watched a video called The Will

00:02:49.120 to Survive, and I told you before we hit record that, man, that video just fired me up. It inspired

00:02:53.880 me. So I want you to tell us, if you don't mind, when you shot that video and the idea and the concept

00:02:59.980 behind The Will to Survive, which is what that video and a lot of what your work is all about.

00:03:04.200 Well, that video actually stemmed from the mass shooting that happened over there in

00:03:08.740 California. What had happened and how a lot of people died. A lot of people take life for

00:03:13.860 granted, which is the truth. Everybody goes about their life every day and just, you know,

00:03:18.060 they go to work, they come back and stuff, and they never prepare that leaving their house that day

00:03:23.520 might be the last time they leave their house. In my line of work, in law enforcement, I see it

00:03:28.340 every day. It doesn't matter how old you are, whether you're young or you're old. And I've been

00:03:32.540 through it multiple times where I was at work and I honestly didn't think that I was going to make

00:03:37.200 it to the end of the day. I've been in situations in my life many times where I really didn't think

00:03:40.800 I was going to come out. So I try to portray in that video pretty much what my, what I was thinking

00:03:46.440 after the whole shooting and the ordeal and how it may be somebody would have, I don't know,

00:03:53.200 carried a gun or somebody would have, you know, properly trained or somehow maybe they could have

00:03:57.480 made a difference. Maybe they wouldn't have made a complete difference. Maybe some people were still

00:04:01.140 going to, you know, die, but maybe they could have stopped six people from dying or seven people

00:04:06.260 from dying. If somebody would have just, you know, be willing to either give their life for the cause

00:04:10.500 or, or just properly trained, you know, whether it was carrying a gun or just to protect themselves

00:04:14.980 or the family, you know, so that video pretty much stemmed from that. Obviously my background in law

00:04:19.500 enforcement and the military obviously helps. Not going to lie. I've been doing it for almost 20 years.

00:04:24.100 Right. Right. But I've always dedicated myself to try to properly prepare myself for certain

00:04:29.480 situations. And the truth is, uh, Ryan, that it's, it just becomes a lifestyle. Uh, if you have a

00:04:34.280 family and you care about them or you care about the people around you, whether you're friends,

00:04:38.760 whether you're coworkers, as a man, you kind of feel like you have to protect them or, you know,

00:04:43.900 you provide for them or however you can. And that's the only way I know how I've been doing it for so

00:04:48.840 many years that, you know, the only way I know how is just, just be the way that I am. And it

00:04:53.180 becomes a lifestyle after a while, whether you properly prepare fitness wise, you know, physically

00:04:57.400 fit, whether it's doing, um, you know, defensive tactics or properly, you know, how to defend

00:05:02.060 yourself, how to shoot a gun, how to, uh, I don't know, knife fight, whatever it is, however it is

00:05:06.580 that you, you decide to do it, but at least you're doing something. You're becoming more confident in

00:05:11.240 your abilities to be able to do that. You know, and that's what that video pretty much about. It's just

00:05:14.940 telling people, you know, we live in the, in the best country in the world. And if the government

00:05:19.920 is giving you the freedom to properly train yourself and to, to properly prepare yourself

00:05:24.780 and, and, you know, they say, Oh, because of the, you know, the terrorists and this and that,

00:05:28.560 it's not about the terrorists. It's just an everyday life. We live in a country that's filled with

00:05:34.660 predators. And at the end of the day, politics and government doesn't matter to me. What matters

00:05:40.320 to me is my family, my friends, my coworkers, and I do it for them. I don't do it to get into

00:05:45.640 the politics. Politics is just, that's just, we're a pawn, Ryan, all of us. We're just pawns

00:05:50.320 in the big scheme of things. And we worry about our little world. And if everybody were to do that,

00:05:55.980 if you did that, I did that, this next guy did that, then it would be a lot, a little bit more

00:06:00.020 safer. You know what I'm saying? Sure. Yeah. No, that makes total sense. And I, man, I'm,

00:06:04.380 I'm right on board with that. I mean, one of the core concepts that we talk about when it comes to

00:06:08.500 masculinity is the ability to protect your family. So I fully get this. You talk about

00:06:13.320 some situations in your law enforcement days. It sounds like maybe you just retired,

00:06:18.120 but do you mind sharing with me a story about when maybe shit hit the fan and you were prepared 0.72

00:06:23.680 and you had to handle a situation where you felt like, man, maybe I'm not going to come out of this? 0.63

00:06:27.760 I'll give you one. Uh, uh, you know, some of the stuff is still in the investigation,

00:06:31.300 things like that over the years, but, um, I'll give you one prime example. Back in 2008,

00:06:34.880 I had a, um, an armed robber, uh, robbed, um, in Miami, they have the roach coaches. Um, people,

00:06:41.280 guys that sell food from these little box trucks. Oh, sure. Yeah. Right. Right. Always carry a lot

00:06:45.480 of cash. So there was a trend that these guys would go and they would rob them because they

00:06:49.380 knew they had seven, $800 on them. So the guy robs them. I pick up the car and get into a car

00:06:53.840 chase, uh, bail out. I have to run after the guy for like two and a half blocks, uh, almost three

00:06:59.240 blocks. I chased the guy into a warehouse. It was in the warehouse district. It was kind of like a

00:07:04.500 shoe, a shoe place or a little thrift shop. As I come around one of the corners, uh, pine out of

00:07:09.640 the corners, I have my gun out. Obviously he grabbed my gun. Oh wow. Yeah. Uh, for a good,

00:07:14.260 probably about a good minute, minute and a half. The guy was bigger than he was. It was a black male. 0.98

00:07:18.180 He was probably about six, uh, six, four, six, five, maybe about two 70 to 80. Wow. Big guy. Yeah.

00:07:23.660 Big guy dude. Uh, and he was younger. Obviously he was a lot younger than I was. He was, I think

00:07:26.860 was early twenties, I would say. And, um, we fought for, I mean, a lot of people say, Oh man,

00:07:32.640 it's not that long in a real fight. This is not boxing and there's no rounds and there's

00:07:37.560 no, it's not MMA where you have a man, no rules and there's no rules. A minute and a

00:07:42.100 half is a very, very long time to be in an actual fist fight with a guy. And not only

00:07:45.700 that, but you're fighting for a gun, which can easily, if it's taken away from you or

00:07:50.020 vice versa, can kill someone. Fight with him for about a minute and a half. Uh, he gets away

00:07:55.340 from me again. I chase him down into the middle of the street. Once again, I tackle him down

00:07:59.160 and then we had taken him into custody. I would tell you that on that instance, in

00:08:02.960 the middle of it, as I'm struggling for my gun in my mind, you know, things slow

00:08:07.960 down when you're in situations like that, you're, you're just thinking of, you know,

00:08:11.120 I've got to, I got to take the gun to custody. I got to take the guy into custody. He can't

00:08:14.060 get away. You know, he's an armed robber. If I get away, he's going to try to do

00:08:16.820 another armed robbery. It wasn't so much fear, but it was definitely a sense of where if

00:08:24.640 this guy gets this gun from me, it's a good chance that this is the last time I'm going

00:08:28.460 to be running through any armed robbery subjects. Right. And there was a time there where he

00:08:33.200 actually got a good overhand on me with the gun. We had put his, both of his hands on the

00:08:37.200 gun and, and there were so many things, you know, obviously involved in that where you

00:08:41.200 just don't want to shoot the guy either because he's unarmed. Yeah. Yeah. There's some political

00:08:44.860 sides of that and societal sides of that as well. I'm sure. Exactly. So, because it does,

00:08:49.700 believe it or not, in a situation like that, where you're fighting for your life, it does

00:08:52.340 come into play where I said to myself, should I shoot him? Should I shoot him? You know, 0.96

00:08:56.960 and then you decide not to, because you say, okay, I don't want to shoot an armed man. You

00:09:01.780 know, we'll fight, you know, I'd rather risk it, fight with him. You know what I'm saying?

00:09:06.620 And then see what comes out of it. And obviously I came out on top, but anybody else, a guy who's

00:09:13.260 150 pounds or 170 pounds made of not, he might've not come out on top. Sure. Sure. Like it's

00:09:19.280 happened several, several times. You just have to understand. I mean, me, I try to live

00:09:24.140 life and a lot of people, especially when it comes to my physical fitness standards or

00:09:28.000 whatever, they'll say, Oh, you're not going to have any knees left. You're not going to

00:09:31.220 have your, any back left by the time you're 40 or you're 50 or six years old. You know,

00:09:35.240 the way that you train is ridiculous. It's, it's, it's just not needed. It's unnecessary. 0.97

00:09:39.440 It's all these different things. I explained to them that training and physical fitness is my

00:09:44.060 passion. It's my obsession. I love it. It's part of me. It's always been part of me since I

00:09:47.720 was, you know, a very young, young kid. And I explained to him, it's very simple. I rather do

00:09:53.720 what I love to do for five years or even for one day than to play it safe and go to a job that I

00:10:01.760 hate that I'm miserable at for 30 years. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. No, I feel you. I'm

00:10:07.920 exactly. Yeah. I agree with you on that. You know, and some people don't have that mentality. Some

00:10:11.520 people have the mentality of, of what we call the sheet mentality where they rather be safe and,

00:10:15.500 and careful and, and you know what I mean? And live that 30 year life. I'm okay with living 10

00:10:21.380 years. If I was doing what I love to do, you know, and, and that's the bottom line. You have to be

00:10:25.920 willing to risk, right? If you're not willing to risk in this life, any multimillionaire, any guy

00:10:31.680 who's made it or been successful, none of them have gotten there. If they made it on their own,

00:10:37.660 obviously not, if they're not, if they were married into it, but somehow they risked, whether

00:10:41.860 it was time, blood, sweat, money, they risked. And if you're not willing to do that, then, you know,

00:10:47.560 it's going to be a lot harder. Sure. Yeah. Well, so my question is for a ordinary Joe. I mean,

00:10:53.960 I, you know, I like to stay physically fit. I like to think that I'm prepared. I know how to handle a

00:10:58.160 firearm. I've got some military background training, but for the most part, not nearly to the degree that

00:11:02.060 you do. And I, I'm sure a lot of the guys listening to this and even your clients are probably like

00:11:05.700 this as well, where it isn't their whole life. So where would you suggest that that quote unquote

00:11:09.900 average Joe start when it comes to learning how to be better prepared for a situation he might find

00:11:15.420 himself in? Well, I would tell you, I mean, in regards to learning to defend yourself, any kind

00:11:21.300 of martial arts is good just to learn the basics of learning how to punch or learning how to defend

00:11:27.700 yourself, you know, proper guard or proper, uh, his fighting stance, something is better than

00:11:33.660 nothing. And I tell you, a basic person has never taken, I mean, you'd be surprised how many, probably

00:11:39.520 80% to 90% of the population don't even know how to throw a proper punch. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. And

00:11:45.280 then they'll get into a fight or something happens and then they'll end up breaking their hand because

00:11:49.740 they're punching the wrong way. And if they knew how to punch, they probably would have won the fight 0.79

00:11:54.160 or they at least would have survived the fight. But in other words, now they have a broken hand and

00:11:58.420 getting, you know, let's say they robbed them or something like that. You know, they couldn't

00:12:01.440 probably defend themselves just cause they didn't know. And most, and a lot of times, believe it or

00:12:05.580 not, people that experience these traumatic events, whether they've been robbed, whether something

00:12:10.940 has happened in their life, then after that is when they start to decide, well, I'm going to go take

00:12:15.980 some classes. Right. Right. After the fact, always. Sure. It's always happens. You don't understand how

00:12:21.160 many students I've had in my classes, which they come to my training and they're like, yeah, because I

00:12:26.540 got robbed. Yeah. Because of this. Yeah. Because of that. So I started caring. So I started training more

00:12:30.100 when they should have been doing that from the get go. Just look at the videos. It's on YouTube

00:12:35.140 every single day. Robberies, home invasions, armed carjackings every day. You can't deny it. It's not

00:12:42.780 like it's not available to you, you know, on social media. I would tell you one part of it, it would be

00:12:47.720 definitely if you can, if you live in a good state, obviously carry a gun or have a gun and properly

00:12:54.220 educate yourself and your family and what it takes to own a gun and carry a gun and shoot a gun.

00:13:01.300 You know, most kids, I will tell you like this. Some people will agree with me. Some people will

00:13:05.400 not. The problems that happen with kids, it's because of the fear or the curiosity of guns.

00:13:11.180 Right. That is the main issue that little kids have with guns. If you take the curiosity away and you

00:13:16.760 teach them to understand it and respect it and what it can do, nothing will happen because it's

00:13:24.500 the curiosity that kills and the knowledge of not understanding what it can do or how to handle

00:13:29.520 themselves. Yeah. I mean, I've got a, a eight year old who just earned his first 22 rifle and that kid

00:13:37.240 doesn't play with guns and he doesn't play with guns because he knows how to use the tool because we've

00:13:43.580 trained him to use the tool. So there's no need for him to play with it or figure out how it works

00:13:47.680 because we've already taught him how to handle it. Absolutely. Correct. 100% right. 100%. You take

00:13:53.600 the curiosity away from the kid. That's it. It's not something that he needs to do anymore.

00:13:58.180 He knows how to deal with it. He understands it. And not only that, but he respects what it does.

00:14:03.000 You understand? And he has a knowledge to understand that at an eight years old,

00:14:06.220 or even at, I would tell you that five or six years old, you could literally get a kid,

00:14:10.980 sit him down and explain to him, listen, this hurts you this side right here. Yeah. This is

00:14:16.760 what hurts this thing right here. You can never touch this. This is the reasons why bang, bang,

00:14:21.060 bang, bang, bang. And you explain it to them. Yeah. And it takes that curiosity away. And if they

00:14:25.440 understand that if they pull the trigger or they touch the trigger, there's something bad that's

00:14:29.440 going to happen. Then they understand that it will never happen. You understand what I'm saying?

00:14:32.940 They won't. Sure. So you properly educate the people, carry a gun. I always say that nowadays you just

00:14:39.580 need to, God forbid an active shooter or an active threat happens like once a month now in the country.

00:14:45.940 Yeah. So often. And it's not the fact of being a hero, Ryan, because I don't tell people it's not

00:14:50.800 about you being a hero. It's about you just saving your own life and saving your family's life.

00:14:56.300 If you happen to be at that store at that Walmart or wherever it is, and the guy is randomly shooting

00:15:01.840 people and you don't have a gun or you don't have anything to protect yourself, how are you supposed

00:15:05.980 to protect your family? Yeah. There's nothing you can do at that point. There's nothing you can do.

00:15:09.780 You know, you're going to try to run to an aisle and try to grab a knife and maybe charge the guy

00:15:14.060 from the back or something. I mean, you start thinking of things you can do, but you're hoping

00:15:17.960 that you're not 10 or 15 feet away from him, you know, where he's going to be able to shoot you,

00:15:21.740 you know, so you have to be able to do it, you know, and you just have to train. You have to,

00:15:25.400 even if you're not the best shooter, but at least you have something. Sure. Yeah. And a weapon is so

00:15:30.260 powerful. And I think a lot of people get confused with this because it's not about walking around like a

00:15:34.280 badass. I mean, the tool is only as powerful as the guy who's actually wielding the tool, right?

00:15:38.140 So just what you said, I mean, you've got to figure out a way to understand how the weapon works,

00:15:43.140 make sure that you can fire it correctly, make sure you know the techniques of proper shooting

00:15:46.740 so that if the situation arises, heaven forbid, you'll know exactly how to handle yourself and

00:15:50.780 take care of other people around you. Exactly. And that's just a simple fact of not being a hero,

00:15:55.400 of just providing protection for you and your family. Bottom line.

00:16:00.340 Right, right. I always tell people, let law enforcement officers or let military, you know,

00:16:04.780 let them be the heroes. You know, don't go out of your way and risk your life if you don't have to,

00:16:09.620 especially if your family is involved, because now that is a decision that you're going to have to

00:16:13.560 make, whether you're willing to risk your life and leave your family behind. But if it comes to the

00:16:17.880 time where you have to protect your family, then you have to have the proper training and the proper

00:16:23.240 tools to do it the right way. You know what I mean? And do it effectively, obviously.

00:16:26.820 Sure. Then the last thing, I guess, would be the train, obviously, to defend yourself physically,

00:16:31.980 train, you know, obviously, with the proper tools. And then the last thing would be physically fit to

00:16:35.620 be in some kind of decent shape. And when I say decent shape, I mean, you don't have to be a PT

00:16:40.380 stud, you know, but you go to the gym, you know, twice a week, three times a week, and you run or you

00:16:46.460 do some form of cardio or some kind of weights, something. It keeps you mobile. It keeps you healthy.

00:16:53.840 You know what I'm saying? Where you're just not a person who just comes home every day and plays

00:16:57.720 video games or just sits on the couch every single day. Right. Forbid, you have to sprint for whatever

00:17:02.460 reason. And the moment you go to sprint, you haven't sprinted in 10 years, you're going to tear your

00:17:06.920 hamstring. And now you're trying to run with your family, whoever it is, and you have a torn hamstring,

00:17:12.000 you're not going to be able to run. Right. Have done no cardio and no nothing physical in the last 10

00:17:17.020 years of your life. So, you know, those are the three aspects, some way or somehow. And, you know,

00:17:22.520 you're always going to have the issues in regards to family. Oh, because I have a family,

00:17:26.200 I have three kids. I don't have the time. I work. And I hear that excuse all the time.

00:17:33.100 And that's what it is. Just like you say, it's just an excuse, right? Because anybody,

00:17:36.200 everybody's busy, but certain people make time regardless of how busy they are.

00:17:39.560 Exactly. No matter how busy you are, you can make time if you really want to.

00:17:43.320 Even if, and I say to people, okay, you have three or four kids, right? But do you find to go to time

00:17:46.940 to go to the movies? Do you find to go to the mall? How about go out drinking with your buddies?

00:17:53.300 Yeah, you find time for that, but you can't find time to go, let's say one week, go and shoot

00:17:57.640 or one week, go to like a class and just learn how to defend yourself or maybe go to the gym for 20

00:18:03.220 minutes, 15 minutes out of the day. Isn't that interesting? Just the priorities that we place

00:18:07.420 on ourselves, right? Oh, it's always like that. You're always going to have your priorities. And

00:18:10.860 usually habits is the key there because the average person, they create habits around their

00:18:16.740 life. So whatever habit they have, they'll make up the excuses to cover that habit, whatever it is,

00:18:23.460 whatever they like to do. So if they don't like to go to the gym, they're going to find something

00:18:26.980 else to do other than go to the gym. Sure. They're going to put another habit in there. 0.99

00:18:30.600 Well, so I want to ask about basic self-defense. You talk about using and becoming familiar with

00:18:35.520 guns in your case or any type of weapon system. You talk about the physical component,

00:18:39.000 but I know the other component that you have talked about and that you subscribe to as well

00:18:43.460 is preparation of the mind. So talk to me about how somebody can prepare their mind mentally and

00:18:48.420 mental fortitude and resilience and toughness that I know is part of the deal when it comes to

00:18:53.080 defending yourself and your family and your loved ones. Well, I mean, out of those three things,

00:18:58.160 let me tell you, the mentality is the most important out of all of them. If you don't have the right

00:19:02.600 mindset, honestly, between me and Ryan and your listeners, you're worthless.

00:19:07.120 If you're not willing to make the sacrifice because of fear or because of pain or because

00:19:14.320 of whatever it is, then you can't accomplish anything. The average person, your body or your

00:19:21.120 mind will tell you to stop doing whatever you're doing at 40%. Oh, is that right? I can see that being

00:19:26.720 the case because I know it is when I go for a run and my body's like, this hurts, stop. So I can see

00:19:30.680 how that would be the case. It's 40%. So when your mind tells you, Hey, you're getting tired,

00:19:36.320 you know, you're done. You only have 40%. So you still have 60% left. Yeah. And just the realization

00:19:41.960 of that probably helps you continue to go on, right? Well, that's the thing. You have to accept the fact

00:19:46.640 that there is going to be pain. You have to accept the fact that there's a number of factors that

00:19:50.120 whatever it is that you're doing, you have to fight through it. And if you're not willing to fight

00:19:54.400 through it, then, you know, it's like anything, any sport you do, any sport or any training you do

00:20:00.340 in life, anything you do in life, if it was given to you, it's easy. But if you had to earn it,

00:20:06.120 it means so much more. Right. You know what I'm saying? So in the mentality of things that you as

00:20:11.460 have the proper mindset, you have to be willing to sacrifice. You have to be willing to risk.

00:20:16.380 You have to be willing to do all these things to accomplish whatever goal you want. It doesn't

00:20:20.940 matter. It doesn't have to be being physically fit or anything to become successful. You have

00:20:25.440 to be willing to have the proper mindset because if you're not willing to sacrifice and to do all

00:20:29.560 these different things, you're never going to become successful. You're never going to accomplish

00:20:32.300 nothing because as soon as it gets hard, you're going to be like, I'm done. I quit. I stopped.

00:20:37.200 Yeah, stop. Men, let me just take a quick pause to tell you about our elite mastermind,

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00:21:02.600 be covering this month of self mastery is such a critical thing to cover because if you can master

00:21:07.280 yourself, what I call the natural man, you will be better equipped to accomplish everything that you

00:21:11.620 set out to in life. More often than not, our biggest enemy and obstacle is the man in the mirror.

00:21:16.540 So if you feel like maybe you're sitting on the verge of great things, but just can't seem to break

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00:21:30.140 that you set out to do. So you can check that out at order of men.com slash iron council. We look

00:21:35.140 forward to seeing you on the inside. How do you know when you're genuinely done? I mean, you talk

00:21:40.680 about the body's going to tell you and your mind's going to tell you to shut down at 40% of your

00:21:44.160 actual max result or effort. How do you know when you are actually done? And how do you know when

00:21:50.000 you are actually pushing it? Or if your mind's just telling you to stop because it's getting just

00:21:54.080 a little bit difficult? I would tell you a lot of times you have to listen to your body. You as a

00:21:58.940 person, if you start feeling hurt, pain is different than feeling burn pain. Sure. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

00:22:05.280 It makes sense. You know, at least in training and let's say fitness, whatever, you know,

00:22:09.560 a certain amount of weight that you can do. Obviously, if you put an ad another four or 500

00:22:13.240 pounds, you know, you can't do that physically. Right. Exactly. There's no mindset that can help

00:22:17.400 me lift that amount. Exactly. Exactly. What you do is you work your way up to as much as you can.

00:22:22.940 Now, if you know, your max is this and you do three quarters of your max, and then you push yourself

00:22:27.760 until you feel the burning. Pretty much the way that it works is you learn by experience. You know,

00:22:33.200 you learn, you know, and whatever it is that you're doing, but you got to do it, Ryan. If you

00:22:37.280 don't do it, then you will never know. And that's the problem. Most people won't even try.

00:22:41.720 You know, they'll do their five reps or, you know, they'll do a couple of different things.

00:22:45.220 And they're like, Oh no, it hurts too much. I quit. If you today, if you did 10 tomorrow,

00:22:50.880 you realize, well, let me try 12. Okay. I did 12 the following day. Let me try 14 or 15.

00:22:56.860 You did 15. You tried 16, but you couldn't do 16. All right. So now I know what my potential is,

00:23:02.740 you know, and you keep working up, you keep working up to it. At the end of the day,

00:23:07.200 you really don't know because some days you're going to be doing better than other days.

00:23:12.100 Your diet has a lot to do with that. How many carbs you've eaten have a lot to do with that.

00:23:16.140 How strong you are that day, how much energy you have that day. So there's going to be days where

00:23:20.820 you're just not going to have the energy to do certain things as much as you would have another

00:23:24.400 day, you know, because your diet, let's say the day before you didn't really eat that much,

00:23:28.000 or let's say you drank, you drank liquor, you drank beer and you're dehydrated. So it just,

00:23:33.000 it just varies from person to person. Yeah. There's so much to it. I mean,

00:23:35.700 you can't just isolate your time in the gym. You've got to look at your entire life.

00:23:38.940 What's the role of coaching in this? Because I know as I've hired coaches in my life,

00:23:43.100 whether it's physical fitness or business or life coaching, that they're able to see things

00:23:48.180 from a different perspective as well. And I know you offer coaching. And so what is the role that a

00:23:52.540 coach plays when you're trying to build physical strength, mental strength, whatever area of life

00:23:57.400 you're trying to improve at? You have to think of a coach as your mentor. You have to trust

00:24:01.720 that coach before anything. My, my partner, Diego Devero, he's a two-time world kickboxing champion

00:24:06.980 and a two-time multi-world champion. He owns a gym called Knockout Zone in Miami. He's like my

00:24:12.280 brother and we're partners and he's my trainer. I would say he's my trainer. He's the one that

00:24:15.680 usually coaches me and trains me and helps me doing a lot of things. I have the time, believe it

00:24:20.560 or not, a lot of the things that I do, which is some people think they're crazy. I honestly don't

00:24:25.060 know if I can do them or not. I don't know. Interesting. Yeah. I don't know how much weight I can do,

00:24:29.200 or I cannot do. So I usually ask Diego and I'll ask him, Hey, can I do that? And he'll tell me

00:24:34.720 yes or no. If he tells me, yes, I can do it. Then I'm not going to question him and I'm going to

00:24:39.340 a coach and be able to do that to you. He should give you that positive reinforcement because if

00:24:44.240 he's been coaching you for a certain amount of time, he knows your abilities better than you know

00:24:49.300 your abilities because there's no doubt in his mind. There's going to be always that small amount

00:24:54.500 of fear in your mind just because you honestly don't think you're that strong. Right. But he's

00:24:59.980 looking from outside in and he's seen you do things that you didn't think you were able to do.

00:25:04.780 So, and he's coached you up to that. So he's going to tell you, yeah, you could do that.

00:25:08.880 Or he's going to tell you, Oh, you're going to struggle with that, but I think you could pull it

00:25:11.300 off. You know, let's do it. And he's going to motivate you to get better and to become stronger.

00:25:16.560 Like, you know, so sometimes let me wrong. Sometimes I ask him, I go, Hey, I don't think

00:25:22.000 I can do that, man. He's like, you can, you can. And I'm like, no, no, for real. I really don't

00:25:26.780 think I can do that. Yeah. You shut up. You know, you get into these arguments and shut up. I know

00:25:32.760 you can do it. Go do it, do it. You know? And then what happens? I focus, I zone in and I end up doing

00:25:37.820 it. I didn't think I could do it. I ended up doing it. I'm like, you were right. You know? And

00:25:40.680 because they just coaches are supposed to know, man, you're supposed to trust them.

00:25:44.020 Well, and the other side of that too, is I think that coaches don't have the same baggage that we

00:25:48.740 do, right? Like we have our own life experiences, things that we failed at, things that we've fallen

00:25:53.020 short of. And that creates this emotional baggage that a trainer or a coach or a mentor is not attached

00:25:59.600 to your baggage or your feelings or the baggage that you're bringing into the situation. He can see

00:26:04.420 things a little bit more clear, I think. Oh, definitely. And at the end of the day, he's looking from the

00:26:07.900 outside in. He's not looking from where our eyes, our eyes, you know, no matter how you look at it,

00:26:13.200 when you're doing something that you've never done before, the first fact is fear. You're going

00:26:17.580 to have that fear because there's always going to be a doubt in your brain that you can't do that.

00:26:21.560 He's not the one doing it. So there's no fear in him. He's pretty much going to tell you yes or no.

00:26:27.060 Right. You know, when you have a fear, you probably can do it. But because of that small amount of fear,

00:26:31.580 this is a question. You have to overcome that fear. You have to be willing to sacrifice or to risk

00:26:36.760 that fear so you can accomplish whatever goal that you want to do, regardless of the matter of how

00:26:41.920 you look at it, whether it's a weight, whether it's a job, whether it's a career, whether whatever

00:26:47.600 it is that you're doing in life, period, you have to risk. You have to risk. Randy will tell you that.

00:26:53.360 Yeah, he will. Yeah, for sure. I mean, he's taking big risk and you look at where he is today,

00:26:57.200 but without those risks, he wouldn't be there for sure. We're talking about Andy Frisilla with MFCEO,

00:27:01.440 just in case you guys didn't catch that. So the next question I've got, I want to jump back here

00:27:04.860 because we talk about preparation and then I want to know what the line is between being

00:27:10.080 practically prepared and maybe stepping over the line and being overly paranoid. Is there a line

00:27:16.480 at all? And if there is, what does that actually line look like? Yeah, there's always being too

00:27:22.060 overzealous. Anything in big amounts is always bad for you, right? So you're supposed to drink a

00:27:28.280 gallon of water every day when you're training or when you're trying to be physically fit. Why? To

00:27:32.280 maintain hydration and all that stuff. But if you drink three gallons of water every single day,

00:27:36.400 or if you drink three gallons of water, period, in a short amount of time, you're going to die.

00:27:39.820 Right. Same thing with milk. Milk is good for you, right? It has a lot of calcium. It's good to drink

00:27:44.380 a cup a day. But if you drink too much milk, you're going to end up throwing up. Right. Like the

00:27:50.180 gallon milk challenge or whatever it is, right? Exactly. Challenge where you're going to end up

00:27:53.380 throwing it. Anything excess is bad. You have to find a happy medium. If you're a person that is

00:27:58.860 constantly paranoid and they can't be in like all these crowds and, and, and you start getting

00:28:04.880 anxiety and you start, then that's the problem. If you're a prepper and you're a type of guy who's

00:28:09.360 a prepper, like to like to prep, listen, by all means, I'm, I'm 100% prepping and I have my certain

00:28:15.260 gear that I have that I've always had, you know, survival things. I have certain things that I know

00:28:19.860 that I've, God forbid, the apocalypse happens that I need a certain amount of things that, you know,

00:28:24.740 do I spend thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars on prepping for survival? No, I don't.

00:28:31.160 People have lost their, their, their wives, their lives because of that type of overdoing it.

00:28:38.520 Gambling. Gambling is not bad. As long as you do it, either you're a professional gambler and that's

00:28:43.500 your job or you're a type of guy that gambles every once in a while. But if you become a gambler

00:28:48.160 and it's not your job and you don't know what you're doing, eventually you're going to lose and

00:28:52.200 you're going to lose all your money and you're going to lose your house and you're going to lose

00:28:55.200 all your things when it becomes an addiction. Right. It's bad for you. So yeah, you have to find

00:28:59.680 a happy being at the end of the day. And I, you know, and I tell you, I'm not paranoid. I don't

00:29:04.640 consider myself paranoid. Now, some people that live in la la land will consider me paranoid.

00:29:09.580 I bet. Yeah. I could see that. Cause you're looking at two opposite extremes. So I could see how

00:29:13.060 somebody would call you that. Exactly. So, uh, am I the guy that is always on my phone as I'm walking

00:29:19.520 into my car? No. You know what I'm saying? Am I the guy that has to sit in the back of every

00:29:24.240 restaurant facing the door or any some form of exit? Yes. Am I always constantly looking at the

00:29:30.220 people around me? Like am I very, for example, we would call that head on a swivel. I mean,

00:29:35.900 sure. Yeah. Looking around. Yes, I am like that. But you have to understand my background in law

00:29:41.640 enforcement. You have to be that way. It's been my lifestyle for many, many years. And you're still

00:29:46.300 functional. It's not, I mean, I think that's probably the line is when you get to the point

00:29:49.820 where it's no longer practical, it's just not functional and you're not able to function in

00:29:55.680 society or have a relationship or hold down your job because of the paranoia and you taking it to

00:30:02.240 the extreme, which I can see would be very easy in your line of work and exactly what you're talking

00:30:07.460 about because we have the media blaring everything. And because these are, these things tend to be more

00:30:11.520 common than they used to be that it, that you could become very paranoid very quickly.

00:30:16.540 Yeah. Especially, you know, especially as like a patrol officer, a guy that's wearing a uniform

00:30:20.260 and he's always in a patrol car nowadays with all the things going on that they're being targeted,

00:30:25.020 you know, in law enforcement general and people have no idea the stress, you know, you're literally

00:30:30.360 a walking target, you know, because the minute you walk into any restaurant or the minute you walk

00:30:33.860 into anywhere, everybody notices you and everybody's looking at you. And they're wondering,

00:30:37.600 the first thing that's coming to your head is like wondering, why is this cop here? Is there somebody

00:30:40.740 being arrested? Is something going on? What's going on? And then they realize, oh, he's just

00:30:44.500 here to eat. Then no matter if you think about it, any, everybody sitting around you is going

00:30:49.360 to be constantly looking at you. Sure. Thinking about, yeah, it's a stressful situation. I imagine,

00:30:53.580 you know, so you're thinking you as a cop, you have to think there and you're trying to eat

00:30:56.840 in peace. But at the same time, you're thinking to yourself, well, does that person keep looking

00:31:00.780 at me because he's got a gun and he wants to kill me? Or is he look, I'm a cop, you know?

00:31:05.640 Yeah. Yeah. That's what it's gotten to nowadays because the prime case, the subway,

00:31:10.060 there was a subway up north where the guy just walks in, grabs a cop and kills three

00:31:13.320 or four police officers sitting down at the table, just walks right up to him. Bam, bam,

00:31:17.160 bam, bam, bam, kills them all. Crazy stuff. Yeah. So in general speaking, me personally, 1.00

00:31:23.140 are there certain things that I do whenever I'm in crowds or whenever I'm in restaurants

00:31:26.340 or wherever I'm in a store and yeah, there are certain things that I do. Am I still functional?

00:31:30.300 Do I still, can I still have a hold of conversation? Can I still, yeah, of course I can.

00:31:33.860 You know, you have to try to make it at least your family or to your friends. You have to try to,

00:31:39.500 how do you say, mask it as much as possible so they don't notice it. And then what it is,

00:31:45.880 it's very simple. Your wife or your family, after a while, believe it or not, Ryan,

00:31:50.940 they become accustomed to it. And then when you don't do it, it's weird. It's like,

00:31:57.340 why are you not sitting where you usually sit? Interesting. Yeah. Well, and I bet they almost,

00:32:01.240 in a way too, actually become part of, this kind of might sound weird, but a little bit of your,

00:32:05.680 your force, right? Because they're recognizing that, oh, dad does this. So I'm going to do this.

00:32:10.460 And so all of a sudden you've got, your family members are all looking out and making sure that

00:32:14.620 we're staying safe and they can coordinate and talk or communicate about any red flags they might see.

00:32:19.760 Always. And you know, you with your children, I guarantee you, your sons, they're going to go in

00:32:24.220 and you've already told them, you know, always do this or always do that or whatever, whatever,

00:32:27.960 whatever. And he's going to grow up with that same mentality. And just like you, he's going to

00:32:32.000 grow up always doing certain things when he goes into certain places and he's not even going to

00:32:36.020 think about it. It's just going to become second nature to him. And, and when he sees other people

00:32:40.520 doing, you know, like I call it living in la la land, um, he's going to be like, look at that,

00:32:45.480 look at that person. They have no idea that guy has been casing them for the last 10 or 15 minutes.

00:32:49.960 No, interesting to break into their car, to do this or do that. And I see those things

00:32:54.480 because I've been around it for so many years, but you'll notice things that just stand out

00:32:58.660 when something isn't right. And I tell this to everybody, I go, when you're the type of person

00:33:03.520 that you pay attention to your surroundings, or you have situational, what we call situational

00:33:06.740 awareness, which everybody should have, and you feel there's something isn't right. Like your sixth

00:33:12.320 sense is like, man, there's something wrong about this. What I'm looking at, there's something wrong

00:33:15.800 here. Usually you're right. Subconsciously, you're realizing that in your whatever years that

00:33:21.740 you've been alive, 20 or 25 years, the picture that you're looking at, it's just not making any

00:33:26.920 sense. Yeah. It's not adding up. It's not adding up because you've been seeing things your whole

00:33:30.740 entire life. And usually you don't know what it is, but then later on you realize, Oh, that car got

00:33:35.980 broken into, or all this happened. And it's because you saw it coming before it happened. You just didn't

00:33:40.440 realize what was going on. You know, something's odd about this guy or something's odd about, you know,

00:33:44.900 this particular scenario. And it just comes with a experience, I guess, life experience.

00:33:49.380 Sure. Yeah. Well, Tony, we're winding down on time. I know that we're just scratching the surface and

00:33:54.740 we didn't even get like too much into the meat of things, but I think it's enough information that

00:33:58.780 guys can see how valuable it is to be prepared and to start thinking about some of these things

00:34:03.440 and implementing some of the things that you talk about, like with, with, uh, training your mind and

00:34:08.720 physical fitness, self-defense, learning weapon systems. So I want to ask you a couple of questions

00:34:13.400 as we wind down. And the first question, I prepared you for this one a little bit. I hope I gave

00:34:17.520 you adequate time, but that is what does it mean to be a man? I would tell you two main things come

00:34:22.680 to my head as a man. And I would tell you, um, protector and provider as a man being in charge

00:34:29.380 of your family or your loved ones or your friends, you should always strive to be a protector on the

00:34:34.660 flip side of things. You should always be a provider for whoever needs assistance or help family,

00:34:39.700 friends, whatever it is. Those two things are pretty important in a man's world. I would think

00:34:44.060 if you lack being a protector, then you should definitely be a provider or if you lack being

00:34:50.780 a provider, then you should definitely be a protector. You know, one of those two. I would

00:34:54.480 tell you. I like it. Yeah. It makes sense. And those are obviously things that we talk about as

00:34:58.100 well, which is why I really felt it was valuable to get you on the show. So Tony, if somebody's

00:35:02.220 listening to this and they want to learn more about what you're doing, delve into this a little

00:35:04.920 bit more in depth than we can do on the show, what's the best way to reach out to you and connect with

00:35:08.920 you? Um, well, uh, well, you can just call my, my business line, but, um, my website is, uh,

00:35:15.700 www.realworld-tactical.com. There you can go on. And if you want to take, um, firearms training,

00:35:23.280 uh, my classes are available year round. I'm based out of South Florida area. Uh, I also have, uh,

00:35:29.360 fitness training online programs, which you can get on my website as well. If you like just seeing crazy

00:35:34.400 fitness stuff, uh, and you have Instagram, you can go to, um, real world underscore tactical.

00:35:40.620 And then, and Facebook is the same exact thing, real world tactical. And I also have my athletes

00:35:44.560 page, which is my name, Tony sent my not there. You're just going to see just some of the fitness

00:35:48.880 things that I do, my strength and conditioning work. Uh, I try to help as many people as I can

00:35:53.620 and give them as much knowledge as possible. I'm very easy. You can find me. Yes, that's right.

00:36:00.240 Yeah. Well, no, you guys, and you guys definitely need to check out the Instagram page. Cause I've

00:36:03.920 seen some of the things that you do, like jumping up on top of multiple tractor tires at once,

00:36:08.280 which is pretty cool. And just some other crazy stuff. So you guys definitely want to check it

00:36:11.740 out there. And then what we'll do too, because that video that I came across, which introduced

00:36:16.000 me to your work, the will to survive, I'm going to make sure I link that up in the show notes page.

00:36:20.560 So definitely make sure you check it out there and you can get all of Tony's contact information as

00:36:24.260 well. Tony, I want to, uh, I want to thank you. I want to tell you that I appreciate the work

00:36:27.720 you're doing. I know, I know that is so valuable for men to incorporate some of this stuff into their

00:36:32.240 life. And I also want to thank you for your service. I know you were in the Marine Corps

00:36:36.060 and we love having veterans on the show and we thank you for your service to us.

00:36:40.580 Oh brother. Well, it's been a truly a pleasure and an honor to be on your show. It means a lot.

00:36:45.380 It was a great time talking to you. Hopefully we can do it again.

00:36:47.640 Let's do it.

00:36:48.180 All right, brother.

00:36:50.280 There you have it guys. Mr. Tony Sentman that teaches us how to be better protectors. I encourage

00:36:54.760 you, highly encourage you to check out his stuff. He has some incredible insight and information

00:36:58.260 that you will want to know more about as a man. In the meantime, go check out the Iron

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00:37:11.020 they're going to hold your feet to the fire and that's what it's going to take. If you want

00:37:14.580 to make it to the next level, if you really want to improve your life, then you need to surround

00:37:18.600 yourself with other men who want to do the same and are willing to do and say what needs

00:37:23.040 to be done and said in order to help you get to that next point in life. So head to

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Order of Man - June 07, 2016

OoM 064： Tactical Training for Real-World Scenarios with Tony Sentmanat

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