OoM 064： Tactical Training for Real-World Scenarios with Tony Sentmanat
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In the wake of escalating violence across the world, my guest today, Tony Sentmanet, shares with us how to improve your situational awareness, the first place to start when working on your self defense, and how to get in more tactical training for threats and emergencies.
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As you know by now, every man has three major responsibilities to provide, to preside, and to
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protect. Today, we shed some light on how you can be a better protector. In the wake of escalating
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violence across the world, my guest today, Tony Sentmanat, shares with us how to improve your
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situational awareness, the first place to start when working on your self-defense, and how to get
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in more tactical training for threats and emergencies. You're a man of action. You live
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life to the fullest. Embrace your fears and boldly chart your own path. When life knocks you down,
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you get back up one more time, every time. You are not easily deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient,
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strong. This is your life. This is who you are. This is who you will become. At the end of the day,
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and after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man.
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Men, what's going on today? My name is Ryan Michler, and I am your host and the founder of
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Order of Man. I hope all is going well for you today. Just in case you are new here to this show,
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this is a show about all things manly. We talk about fitness, wealth, manly know-how, relationships.
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Today, specifically, we're talking about one of the primary roles that men play, and that is
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that of a protector. Now, we're bringing you nothing but the best guests on each and every show,
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and today is no different, but before I introduce you to him, know that all the links, the quotes,
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and resources for this show are available. You can go to orderofman.com slash 064. You'll definitely
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want to check out the show notes this week, especially if you don't typically, because I post an
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incredible video of my guest today that will give you an in-depth look into his level of training.
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It's unreal, and then also make sure you join our closed Facebook group for a deeper conversation.
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I think we're going to hit 4,000 members of that group here in the next day or two, so you can
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check that out at facebook.com slash groups slash order of men. Now, with all that said,
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I want to introduce you to my guest, Tony Sentmanette. Tony is a Marine Corps veteran,
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a law enforcement SWAT operator with over 18 years of real-world experience. He's
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a lifelong practitioner in mixed martial arts, and he has extensive experience as a law enforcement
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combatives trainer and has been a firearms instructor for over 16 years. He also has 15
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years of experience as a functional strength and conditioning trainer, specializing in functional
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fitness for combat athletes, and upon finishing his military service, he started in his law enforcement
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career where he still works today. Tony spent most of his career in SWAT where he has been involved
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with over 550 real-world missions throughout his entire career. In addition to his work
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resume, Tony has received numerous awards, including multiple combat cross for police-involved
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shootings, Officer of the Year and Crime Suppression Officer of the Year awards, several Officer of the
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Month and Officer of the Quarter awards, and has received over 40 accommodations throughout his
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Tony, what's up, brother? Thanks for joining me on the show today, man. I'm glad you're here.
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Hey, Ryan. It's a pleasure to be here, brother.
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So I ran across your work literally probably a week or two ago. I watched a video called The Will
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to Survive, and I told you before we hit record that, man, that video just fired me up. It inspired
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me. So I want you to tell us, if you don't mind, when you shot that video and the idea and the concept
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behind The Will to Survive, which is what that video and a lot of what your work is all about.
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Well, that video actually stemmed from the mass shooting that happened over there in
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California. What had happened and how a lot of people died. A lot of people take life for
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granted, which is the truth. Everybody goes about their life every day and just, you know,
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they go to work, they come back and stuff, and they never prepare that leaving their house that day
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might be the last time they leave their house. In my line of work, in law enforcement, I see it
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every day. It doesn't matter how old you are, whether you're young or you're old. And I've been
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through it multiple times where I was at work and I honestly didn't think that I was going to make
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it to the end of the day. I've been in situations in my life many times where I really didn't think
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I was going to come out. So I try to portray in that video pretty much what my, what I was thinking
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after the whole shooting and the ordeal and how it may be somebody would have, I don't know,
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carried a gun or somebody would have, you know, properly trained or somehow maybe they could have
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made a difference. Maybe they wouldn't have made a complete difference. Maybe some people were still
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going to, you know, die, but maybe they could have stopped six people from dying or seven people
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from dying. If somebody would have just, you know, be willing to either give their life for the cause
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or, or just properly trained, you know, whether it was carrying a gun or just to protect themselves
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or the family, you know, so that video pretty much stemmed from that. Obviously my background in law
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enforcement and the military obviously helps. Not going to lie. I've been doing it for almost 20 years.
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Right. Right. But I've always dedicated myself to try to properly prepare myself for certain
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situations. And the truth is, uh, Ryan, that it's, it just becomes a lifestyle. Uh, if you have a
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family and you care about them or you care about the people around you, whether you're friends,
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whether you're coworkers, as a man, you kind of feel like you have to protect them or, you know,
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you provide for them or however you can. And that's the only way I know how I've been doing it for so
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many years that, you know, the only way I know how is just, just be the way that I am. And it
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becomes a lifestyle after a while, whether you properly prepare fitness wise, you know, physically
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fit, whether it's doing, um, you know, defensive tactics or properly, you know, how to defend
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yourself, how to shoot a gun, how to, uh, I don't know, knife fight, whatever it is, however it is
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that you, you decide to do it, but at least you're doing something. You're becoming more confident in
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your abilities to be able to do that. You know, and that's what that video pretty much about. It's just
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telling people, you know, we live in the, in the best country in the world. And if the government
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is giving you the freedom to properly train yourself and to, to properly prepare yourself
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and, and, you know, they say, Oh, because of the, you know, the terrorists and this and that,
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it's not about the terrorists. It's just an everyday life. We live in a country that's filled with
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predators. And at the end of the day, politics and government doesn't matter to me. What matters
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to me is my family, my friends, my coworkers, and I do it for them. I don't do it to get into
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the politics. Politics is just, that's just, we're a pawn, Ryan, all of us. We're just pawns
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in the big scheme of things. And we worry about our little world. And if everybody were to do that,
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if you did that, I did that, this next guy did that, then it would be a lot, a little bit more
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safer. You know what I'm saying? Sure. Yeah. No, that makes total sense. And I, man, I'm,
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I'm right on board with that. I mean, one of the core concepts that we talk about when it comes to
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masculinity is the ability to protect your family. So I fully get this. You talk about
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some situations in your law enforcement days. It sounds like maybe you just retired,
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but do you mind sharing with me a story about when maybe shit hit the fan and you were prepared
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and you had to handle a situation where you felt like, man, maybe I'm not going to come out of this?
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I'll give you one. Uh, uh, you know, some of the stuff is still in the investigation,
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things like that over the years, but, um, I'll give you one prime example. Back in 2008,
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I had a, um, an armed robber, uh, robbed, um, in Miami, they have the roach coaches. Um, people,
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guys that sell food from these little box trucks. Oh, sure. Yeah. Right. Right. Always carry a lot
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of cash. So there was a trend that these guys would go and they would rob them because they
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knew they had seven, $800 on them. So the guy robs them. I pick up the car and get into a car
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chase, uh, bail out. I have to run after the guy for like two and a half blocks, uh, almost three
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blocks. I chased the guy into a warehouse. It was in the warehouse district. It was kind of like a
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shoe, a shoe place or a little thrift shop. As I come around one of the corners, uh, pine out of
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the corners, I have my gun out. Obviously he grabbed my gun. Oh wow. Yeah. Uh, for a good,
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probably about a good minute, minute and a half. The guy was bigger than he was. It was a black male.
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He was probably about six, uh, six, four, six, five, maybe about two 70 to 80. Wow. Big guy. Yeah.
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Big guy dude. Uh, and he was younger. Obviously he was a lot younger than I was. He was, I think
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was early twenties, I would say. And, um, we fought for, I mean, a lot of people say, Oh man,
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it's not that long in a real fight. This is not boxing and there's no rounds and there's
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no, it's not MMA where you have a man, no rules and there's no rules. A minute and a
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half is a very, very long time to be in an actual fist fight with a guy. And not only
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that, but you're fighting for a gun, which can easily, if it's taken away from you or
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vice versa, can kill someone. Fight with him for about a minute and a half. Uh, he gets away
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from me again. I chase him down into the middle of the street. Once again, I tackle him down
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and then we had taken him into custody. I would tell you that on that instance, in
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the middle of it, as I'm struggling for my gun in my mind, you know, things slow
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down when you're in situations like that, you're, you're just thinking of, you know,
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I've got to, I got to take the gun to custody. I got to take the guy into custody. He can't
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get away. You know, he's an armed robber. If I get away, he's going to try to do
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another armed robbery. It wasn't so much fear, but it was definitely a sense of where if
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this guy gets this gun from me, it's a good chance that this is the last time I'm going
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to be running through any armed robbery subjects. Right. And there was a time there where he
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actually got a good overhand on me with the gun. We had put his, both of his hands on the
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gun and, and there were so many things, you know, obviously involved in that where you
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just don't want to shoot the guy either because he's unarmed. Yeah. Yeah. There's some political
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sides of that and societal sides of that as well. I'm sure. Exactly. So, because it does,
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believe it or not, in a situation like that, where you're fighting for your life, it does
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come into play where I said to myself, should I shoot him? Should I shoot him? You know,
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and then you decide not to, because you say, okay, I don't want to shoot an armed man. You
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know, we'll fight, you know, I'd rather risk it, fight with him. You know what I'm saying?
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And then see what comes out of it. And obviously I came out on top, but anybody else, a guy who's
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150 pounds or 170 pounds made of not, he might've not come out on top. Sure. Sure. Like it's
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happened several, several times. You just have to understand. I mean, me, I try to live
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life and a lot of people, especially when it comes to my physical fitness standards or
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whatever, they'll say, Oh, you're not going to have any knees left. You're not going to
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have your, any back left by the time you're 40 or you're 50 or six years old. You know,
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the way that you train is ridiculous. It's, it's, it's just not needed. It's unnecessary.
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It's all these different things. I explained to them that training and physical fitness is my
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passion. It's my obsession. I love it. It's part of me. It's always been part of me since I
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was, you know, a very young, young kid. And I explained to him, it's very simple. I rather do
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what I love to do for five years or even for one day than to play it safe and go to a job that I
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hate that I'm miserable at for 30 years. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. No, I feel you. I'm
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exactly. Yeah. I agree with you on that. You know, and some people don't have that mentality. Some
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people have the mentality of, of what we call the sheet mentality where they rather be safe and,
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and careful and, and you know what I mean? And live that 30 year life. I'm okay with living 10
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years. If I was doing what I love to do, you know, and, and that's the bottom line. You have to be
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willing to risk, right? If you're not willing to risk in this life, any multimillionaire, any guy
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who's made it or been successful, none of them have gotten there. If they made it on their own,
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obviously not, if they're not, if they were married into it, but somehow they risked, whether
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it was time, blood, sweat, money, they risked. And if you're not willing to do that, then, you know,
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it's going to be a lot harder. Sure. Yeah. Well, so my question is for a ordinary Joe. I mean,
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I, you know, I like to stay physically fit. I like to think that I'm prepared. I know how to handle a
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firearm. I've got some military background training, but for the most part, not nearly to the degree that
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you do. And I, I'm sure a lot of the guys listening to this and even your clients are probably like
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this as well, where it isn't their whole life. So where would you suggest that that quote unquote
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average Joe start when it comes to learning how to be better prepared for a situation he might find
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himself in? Well, I would tell you, I mean, in regards to learning to defend yourself, any kind
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of martial arts is good just to learn the basics of learning how to punch or learning how to defend
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yourself, you know, proper guard or proper, uh, his fighting stance, something is better than
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nothing. And I tell you, a basic person has never taken, I mean, you'd be surprised how many, probably
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80% to 90% of the population don't even know how to throw a proper punch. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. And
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then they'll get into a fight or something happens and then they'll end up breaking their hand because
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they're punching the wrong way. And if they knew how to punch, they probably would have won the fight
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or they at least would have survived the fight. But in other words, now they have a broken hand and
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getting, you know, let's say they robbed them or something like that. You know, they couldn't
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probably defend themselves just cause they didn't know. And most, and a lot of times, believe it or
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not, people that experience these traumatic events, whether they've been robbed, whether something
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has happened in their life, then after that is when they start to decide, well, I'm going to go take
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some classes. Right. Right. After the fact, always. Sure. It's always happens. You don't understand how
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many students I've had in my classes, which they come to my training and they're like, yeah, because I
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got robbed. Yeah. Because of this. Yeah. Because of that. So I started caring. So I started training more
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when they should have been doing that from the get go. Just look at the videos. It's on YouTube
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every single day. Robberies, home invasions, armed carjackings every day. You can't deny it. It's not
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like it's not available to you, you know, on social media. I would tell you one part of it, it would be
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definitely if you can, if you live in a good state, obviously carry a gun or have a gun and properly
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educate yourself and your family and what it takes to own a gun and carry a gun and shoot a gun.
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You know, most kids, I will tell you like this. Some people will agree with me. Some people will
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not. The problems that happen with kids, it's because of the fear or the curiosity of guns.
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Right. That is the main issue that little kids have with guns. If you take the curiosity away and you
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teach them to understand it and respect it and what it can do, nothing will happen because it's
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the curiosity that kills and the knowledge of not understanding what it can do or how to handle
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themselves. Yeah. I mean, I've got a, a eight year old who just earned his first 22 rifle and that kid
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doesn't play with guns and he doesn't play with guns because he knows how to use the tool because we've
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trained him to use the tool. So there's no need for him to play with it or figure out how it works
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because we've already taught him how to handle it. Absolutely. Correct. 100% right. 100%. You take
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the curiosity away from the kid. That's it. It's not something that he needs to do anymore.
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He knows how to deal with it. He understands it. And not only that, but he respects what it does.
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You understand? And he has a knowledge to understand that at an eight years old,
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or even at, I would tell you that five or six years old, you could literally get a kid,
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sit him down and explain to him, listen, this hurts you this side right here. Yeah. This is
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what hurts this thing right here. You can never touch this. This is the reasons why bang, bang,
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bang, bang, bang. And you explain it to them. Yeah. And it takes that curiosity away. And if they
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understand that if they pull the trigger or they touch the trigger, there's something bad that's
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going to happen. Then they understand that it will never happen. You understand what I'm saying?
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They won't. Sure. So you properly educate the people, carry a gun. I always say that nowadays you just
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need to, God forbid an active shooter or an active threat happens like once a month now in the country.
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Yeah. So often. And it's not the fact of being a hero, Ryan, because I don't tell people it's not
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about you being a hero. It's about you just saving your own life and saving your family's life.
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If you happen to be at that store at that Walmart or wherever it is, and the guy is randomly shooting
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people and you don't have a gun or you don't have anything to protect yourself, how are you supposed
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to protect your family? Yeah. There's nothing you can do at that point. There's nothing you can do.
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You know, you're going to try to run to an aisle and try to grab a knife and maybe charge the guy
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from the back or something. I mean, you start thinking of things you can do, but you're hoping
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that you're not 10 or 15 feet away from him, you know, where he's going to be able to shoot you,
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you know, so you have to be able to do it, you know, and you just have to train. You have to,
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even if you're not the best shooter, but at least you have something. Sure. Yeah. And a weapon is so
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powerful. And I think a lot of people get confused with this because it's not about walking around like a
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badass. I mean, the tool is only as powerful as the guy who's actually wielding the tool, right?
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So just what you said, I mean, you've got to figure out a way to understand how the weapon works,
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make sure that you can fire it correctly, make sure you know the techniques of proper shooting
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so that if the situation arises, heaven forbid, you'll know exactly how to handle yourself and
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take care of other people around you. Exactly. And that's just a simple fact of not being a hero,
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of just providing protection for you and your family. Bottom line.
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Right, right. I always tell people, let law enforcement officers or let military, you know,
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let them be the heroes. You know, don't go out of your way and risk your life if you don't have to,
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especially if your family is involved, because now that is a decision that you're going to have to
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make, whether you're willing to risk your life and leave your family behind. But if it comes to the
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time where you have to protect your family, then you have to have the proper training and the proper
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tools to do it the right way. You know what I mean? And do it effectively, obviously.
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Sure. Then the last thing, I guess, would be the train, obviously, to defend yourself physically,
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train, you know, obviously, with the proper tools. And then the last thing would be physically fit to
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be in some kind of decent shape. And when I say decent shape, I mean, you don't have to be a PT
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stud, you know, but you go to the gym, you know, twice a week, three times a week, and you run or you
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do some form of cardio or some kind of weights, something. It keeps you mobile. It keeps you healthy.
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You know what I'm saying? Where you're just not a person who just comes home every day and plays
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video games or just sits on the couch every single day. Right. Forbid, you have to sprint for whatever
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reason. And the moment you go to sprint, you haven't sprinted in 10 years, you're going to tear your
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hamstring. And now you're trying to run with your family, whoever it is, and you have a torn hamstring,
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you're not going to be able to run. Right. Have done no cardio and no nothing physical in the last 10
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years of your life. So, you know, those are the three aspects, some way or somehow. And, you know,
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you're always going to have the issues in regards to family. Oh, because I have a family,
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I have three kids. I don't have the time. I work. And I hear that excuse all the time.
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And that's what it is. Just like you say, it's just an excuse, right? Because anybody,
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everybody's busy, but certain people make time regardless of how busy they are.
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Exactly. No matter how busy you are, you can make time if you really want to.
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Even if, and I say to people, okay, you have three or four kids, right? But do you find to go to time
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to go to the movies? Do you find to go to the mall? How about go out drinking with your buddies?
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Yeah, you find time for that, but you can't find time to go, let's say one week, go and shoot
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or one week, go to like a class and just learn how to defend yourself or maybe go to the gym for 20
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minutes, 15 minutes out of the day. Isn't that interesting? Just the priorities that we place
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on ourselves, right? Oh, it's always like that. You're always going to have your priorities. And
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usually habits is the key there because the average person, they create habits around their
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life. So whatever habit they have, they'll make up the excuses to cover that habit, whatever it is,
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whatever they like to do. So if they don't like to go to the gym, they're going to find something
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else to do other than go to the gym. Sure. They're going to put another habit in there.
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Well, so I want to ask about basic self-defense. You talk about using and becoming familiar with
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guns in your case or any type of weapon system. You talk about the physical component,
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but I know the other component that you have talked about and that you subscribe to as well
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is preparation of the mind. So talk to me about how somebody can prepare their mind mentally and
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mental fortitude and resilience and toughness that I know is part of the deal when it comes to
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defending yourself and your family and your loved ones. Well, I mean, out of those three things,
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let me tell you, the mentality is the most important out of all of them. If you don't have the right
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mindset, honestly, between me and Ryan and your listeners, you're worthless.
00:19:07.120
If you're not willing to make the sacrifice because of fear or because of pain or because
00:19:14.320
of whatever it is, then you can't accomplish anything. The average person, your body or your
00:19:21.120
mind will tell you to stop doing whatever you're doing at 40%. Oh, is that right? I can see that being
00:19:26.720
the case because I know it is when I go for a run and my body's like, this hurts, stop. So I can see
00:19:30.680
how that would be the case. It's 40%. So when your mind tells you, Hey, you're getting tired,
00:19:36.320
you know, you're done. You only have 40%. So you still have 60% left. Yeah. And just the realization
00:19:41.960
of that probably helps you continue to go on, right? Well, that's the thing. You have to accept the fact
00:19:46.640
that there is going to be pain. You have to accept the fact that there's a number of factors that
00:19:50.120
whatever it is that you're doing, you have to fight through it. And if you're not willing to fight
00:19:54.400
through it, then, you know, it's like anything, any sport you do, any sport or any training you do
00:20:00.340
in life, anything you do in life, if it was given to you, it's easy. But if you had to earn it,
00:20:06.120
it means so much more. Right. You know what I'm saying? So in the mentality of things that you as
00:20:11.460
have the proper mindset, you have to be willing to sacrifice. You have to be willing to risk.
00:20:16.380
You have to be willing to do all these things to accomplish whatever goal you want. It doesn't
00:20:20.940
matter. It doesn't have to be being physically fit or anything to become successful. You have
00:20:25.440
to be willing to have the proper mindset because if you're not willing to sacrifice and to do all
00:20:29.560
these different things, you're never going to become successful. You're never going to accomplish
00:20:32.300
nothing because as soon as it gets hard, you're going to be like, I'm done. I quit. I stopped.
00:20:37.200
Yeah, stop. Men, let me just take a quick pause to tell you about our elite mastermind,
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00:21:07.280
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00:21:11.620
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00:21:16.540
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forward to seeing you on the inside. How do you know when you're genuinely done? I mean, you talk
00:21:40.680
about the body's going to tell you and your mind's going to tell you to shut down at 40% of your
00:21:44.160
actual max result or effort. How do you know when you are actually done? And how do you know when
00:21:50.000
you are actually pushing it? Or if your mind's just telling you to stop because it's getting just
00:21:54.080
a little bit difficult? I would tell you a lot of times you have to listen to your body. You as a
00:21:58.940
person, if you start feeling hurt, pain is different than feeling burn pain. Sure. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:05.280
It makes sense. You know, at least in training and let's say fitness, whatever, you know,
00:22:09.560
a certain amount of weight that you can do. Obviously, if you put an ad another four or 500
00:22:13.240
pounds, you know, you can't do that physically. Right. Exactly. There's no mindset that can help
00:22:17.400
me lift that amount. Exactly. Exactly. What you do is you work your way up to as much as you can.
00:22:22.940
Now, if you know, your max is this and you do three quarters of your max, and then you push yourself
00:22:27.760
until you feel the burning. Pretty much the way that it works is you learn by experience. You know,
00:22:33.200
you learn, you know, and whatever it is that you're doing, but you got to do it, Ryan. If you
00:22:37.280
don't do it, then you will never know. And that's the problem. Most people won't even try.
00:22:41.720
You know, they'll do their five reps or, you know, they'll do a couple of different things.
00:22:45.220
And they're like, Oh no, it hurts too much. I quit. If you today, if you did 10 tomorrow,
00:22:50.880
you realize, well, let me try 12. Okay. I did 12 the following day. Let me try 14 or 15.
00:22:56.860
You did 15. You tried 16, but you couldn't do 16. All right. So now I know what my potential is,
00:23:02.740
you know, and you keep working up, you keep working up to it. At the end of the day,
00:23:07.200
you really don't know because some days you're going to be doing better than other days.
00:23:12.100
Your diet has a lot to do with that. How many carbs you've eaten have a lot to do with that.
00:23:16.140
How strong you are that day, how much energy you have that day. So there's going to be days where
00:23:20.820
you're just not going to have the energy to do certain things as much as you would have another
00:23:24.400
day, you know, because your diet, let's say the day before you didn't really eat that much,
00:23:28.000
or let's say you drank, you drank liquor, you drank beer and you're dehydrated. So it just,
00:23:33.000
it just varies from person to person. Yeah. There's so much to it. I mean,
00:23:35.700
you can't just isolate your time in the gym. You've got to look at your entire life.
00:23:38.940
What's the role of coaching in this? Because I know as I've hired coaches in my life,
00:23:43.100
whether it's physical fitness or business or life coaching, that they're able to see things
00:23:48.180
from a different perspective as well. And I know you offer coaching. And so what is the role that a
00:23:52.540
coach plays when you're trying to build physical strength, mental strength, whatever area of life
00:23:57.400
you're trying to improve at? You have to think of a coach as your mentor. You have to trust
00:24:01.720
that coach before anything. My, my partner, Diego Devero, he's a two-time world kickboxing champion
00:24:06.980
and a two-time multi-world champion. He owns a gym called Knockout Zone in Miami. He's like my
00:24:12.280
brother and we're partners and he's my trainer. I would say he's my trainer. He's the one that
00:24:15.680
usually coaches me and trains me and helps me doing a lot of things. I have the time, believe it
00:24:20.560
or not, a lot of the things that I do, which is some people think they're crazy. I honestly don't
00:24:25.060
know if I can do them or not. I don't know. Interesting. Yeah. I don't know how much weight I can do,
00:24:29.200
or I cannot do. So I usually ask Diego and I'll ask him, Hey, can I do that? And he'll tell me
00:24:34.720
yes or no. If he tells me, yes, I can do it. Then I'm not going to question him and I'm going to
00:24:39.340
a coach and be able to do that to you. He should give you that positive reinforcement because if
00:24:44.240
he's been coaching you for a certain amount of time, he knows your abilities better than you know
00:24:49.300
your abilities because there's no doubt in his mind. There's going to be always that small amount
00:24:54.500
of fear in your mind just because you honestly don't think you're that strong. Right. But he's
00:24:59.980
looking from outside in and he's seen you do things that you didn't think you were able to do.
00:25:04.780
So, and he's coached you up to that. So he's going to tell you, yeah, you could do that.
00:25:08.880
Or he's going to tell you, Oh, you're going to struggle with that, but I think you could pull it
00:25:11.300
off. You know, let's do it. And he's going to motivate you to get better and to become stronger.
00:25:16.560
Like, you know, so sometimes let me wrong. Sometimes I ask him, I go, Hey, I don't think
00:25:22.000
I can do that, man. He's like, you can, you can. And I'm like, no, no, for real. I really don't
00:25:26.780
think I can do that. Yeah. You shut up. You know, you get into these arguments and shut up. I know
00:25:32.760
you can do it. Go do it, do it. You know? And then what happens? I focus, I zone in and I end up doing
00:25:37.820
it. I didn't think I could do it. I ended up doing it. I'm like, you were right. You know? And
00:25:40.680
because they just coaches are supposed to know, man, you're supposed to trust them.
00:25:44.020
Well, and the other side of that too, is I think that coaches don't have the same baggage that we
00:25:48.740
do, right? Like we have our own life experiences, things that we failed at, things that we've fallen
00:25:53.020
short of. And that creates this emotional baggage that a trainer or a coach or a mentor is not attached
00:25:59.600
to your baggage or your feelings or the baggage that you're bringing into the situation. He can see
00:26:04.420
things a little bit more clear, I think. Oh, definitely. And at the end of the day, he's looking from the
00:26:07.900
outside in. He's not looking from where our eyes, our eyes, you know, no matter how you look at it,
00:26:13.200
when you're doing something that you've never done before, the first fact is fear. You're going
00:26:17.580
to have that fear because there's always going to be a doubt in your brain that you can't do that.
00:26:21.560
He's not the one doing it. So there's no fear in him. He's pretty much going to tell you yes or no.
00:26:27.060
Right. You know, when you have a fear, you probably can do it. But because of that small amount of fear,
00:26:31.580
this is a question. You have to overcome that fear. You have to be willing to sacrifice or to risk
00:26:36.760
that fear so you can accomplish whatever goal that you want to do, regardless of the matter of how
00:26:41.920
you look at it, whether it's a weight, whether it's a job, whether it's a career, whether whatever
00:26:47.600
it is that you're doing in life, period, you have to risk. You have to risk. Randy will tell you that.
00:26:53.360
Yeah, he will. Yeah, for sure. I mean, he's taking big risk and you look at where he is today,
00:26:57.200
but without those risks, he wouldn't be there for sure. We're talking about Andy Frisilla with MFCEO,
00:27:01.440
just in case you guys didn't catch that. So the next question I've got, I want to jump back here
00:27:04.860
because we talk about preparation and then I want to know what the line is between being
00:27:10.080
practically prepared and maybe stepping over the line and being overly paranoid. Is there a line
00:27:16.480
at all? And if there is, what does that actually line look like? Yeah, there's always being too
00:27:22.060
overzealous. Anything in big amounts is always bad for you, right? So you're supposed to drink a
00:27:28.280
gallon of water every day when you're training or when you're trying to be physically fit. Why? To
00:27:32.280
maintain hydration and all that stuff. But if you drink three gallons of water every single day,
00:27:36.400
or if you drink three gallons of water, period, in a short amount of time, you're going to die.
00:27:39.820
Right. Same thing with milk. Milk is good for you, right? It has a lot of calcium. It's good to drink
00:27:44.380
a cup a day. But if you drink too much milk, you're going to end up throwing up. Right. Like the
00:27:50.180
gallon milk challenge or whatever it is, right? Exactly. Challenge where you're going to end up
00:27:53.380
throwing it. Anything excess is bad. You have to find a happy medium. If you're a person that is
00:27:58.860
constantly paranoid and they can't be in like all these crowds and, and, and you start getting
00:28:04.880
anxiety and you start, then that's the problem. If you're a prepper and you're a type of guy who's
00:28:09.360
a prepper, like to like to prep, listen, by all means, I'm, I'm 100% prepping and I have my certain
00:28:15.260
gear that I have that I've always had, you know, survival things. I have certain things that I know
00:28:19.860
that I've, God forbid, the apocalypse happens that I need a certain amount of things that, you know,
00:28:24.740
do I spend thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars on prepping for survival? No, I don't.
00:28:31.160
People have lost their, their, their wives, their lives because of that type of overdoing it.
00:28:38.520
Gambling. Gambling is not bad. As long as you do it, either you're a professional gambler and that's
00:28:43.500
your job or you're a type of guy that gambles every once in a while. But if you become a gambler
00:28:48.160
and it's not your job and you don't know what you're doing, eventually you're going to lose and
00:28:52.200
you're going to lose all your money and you're going to lose your house and you're going to lose
00:28:55.200
all your things when it becomes an addiction. Right. It's bad for you. So yeah, you have to find
00:28:59.680
a happy being at the end of the day. And I, you know, and I tell you, I'm not paranoid. I don't
00:29:04.640
consider myself paranoid. Now, some people that live in la la land will consider me paranoid.
00:29:09.580
I bet. Yeah. I could see that. Cause you're looking at two opposite extremes. So I could see how
00:29:13.060
somebody would call you that. Exactly. So, uh, am I the guy that is always on my phone as I'm walking
00:29:19.520
into my car? No. You know what I'm saying? Am I the guy that has to sit in the back of every
00:29:24.240
restaurant facing the door or any some form of exit? Yes. Am I always constantly looking at the
00:29:30.220
people around me? Like am I very, for example, we would call that head on a swivel. I mean,
00:29:35.900
sure. Yeah. Looking around. Yes, I am like that. But you have to understand my background in law
00:29:41.640
enforcement. You have to be that way. It's been my lifestyle for many, many years. And you're still
00:29:46.300
functional. It's not, I mean, I think that's probably the line is when you get to the point
00:29:49.820
where it's no longer practical, it's just not functional and you're not able to function in
00:29:55.680
society or have a relationship or hold down your job because of the paranoia and you taking it to
00:30:02.240
the extreme, which I can see would be very easy in your line of work and exactly what you're talking
00:30:07.460
about because we have the media blaring everything. And because these are, these things tend to be more
00:30:11.520
common than they used to be that it, that you could become very paranoid very quickly.
00:30:16.540
Yeah. Especially, you know, especially as like a patrol officer, a guy that's wearing a uniform
00:30:20.260
and he's always in a patrol car nowadays with all the things going on that they're being targeted,
00:30:25.020
you know, in law enforcement general and people have no idea the stress, you know, you're literally
00:30:30.360
a walking target, you know, because the minute you walk into any restaurant or the minute you walk
00:30:33.860
into anywhere, everybody notices you and everybody's looking at you. And they're wondering,
00:30:37.600
the first thing that's coming to your head is like wondering, why is this cop here? Is there somebody
00:30:40.740
being arrested? Is something going on? What's going on? And then they realize, oh, he's just
00:30:44.500
here to eat. Then no matter if you think about it, any, everybody sitting around you is going
00:30:49.360
to be constantly looking at you. Sure. Thinking about, yeah, it's a stressful situation. I imagine,
00:30:53.580
you know, so you're thinking you as a cop, you have to think there and you're trying to eat
00:30:56.840
in peace. But at the same time, you're thinking to yourself, well, does that person keep looking
00:31:00.780
at me because he's got a gun and he wants to kill me? Or is he look, I'm a cop, you know?
00:31:05.640
Yeah. Yeah. That's what it's gotten to nowadays because the prime case, the subway,
00:31:10.060
there was a subway up north where the guy just walks in, grabs a cop and kills three
00:31:13.320
or four police officers sitting down at the table, just walks right up to him. Bam, bam,
00:31:17.160
bam, bam, bam, kills them all. Crazy stuff. Yeah. So in general speaking, me personally,
00:31:23.140
are there certain things that I do whenever I'm in crowds or whenever I'm in restaurants
00:31:26.340
or wherever I'm in a store and yeah, there are certain things that I do. Am I still functional?
00:31:30.300
Do I still, can I still have a hold of conversation? Can I still, yeah, of course I can.
00:31:33.860
You know, you have to try to make it at least your family or to your friends. You have to try to,
00:31:39.500
how do you say, mask it as much as possible so they don't notice it. And then what it is,
00:31:45.880
it's very simple. Your wife or your family, after a while, believe it or not, Ryan,
00:31:50.940
they become accustomed to it. And then when you don't do it, it's weird. It's like,
00:31:57.340
why are you not sitting where you usually sit? Interesting. Yeah. Well, and I bet they almost,
00:32:01.240
in a way too, actually become part of, this kind of might sound weird, but a little bit of your,
00:32:05.680
your force, right? Because they're recognizing that, oh, dad does this. So I'm going to do this.
00:32:10.460
And so all of a sudden you've got, your family members are all looking out and making sure that
00:32:14.620
we're staying safe and they can coordinate and talk or communicate about any red flags they might see.
00:32:19.760
Always. And you know, you with your children, I guarantee you, your sons, they're going to go in
00:32:24.220
and you've already told them, you know, always do this or always do that or whatever, whatever,
00:32:27.960
whatever. And he's going to grow up with that same mentality. And just like you, he's going to
00:32:32.000
grow up always doing certain things when he goes into certain places and he's not even going to
00:32:36.020
think about it. It's just going to become second nature to him. And, and when he sees other people
00:32:40.520
doing, you know, like I call it living in la la land, um, he's going to be like, look at that,
00:32:45.480
look at that person. They have no idea that guy has been casing them for the last 10 or 15 minutes.
00:32:49.960
No, interesting to break into their car, to do this or do that. And I see those things
00:32:54.480
because I've been around it for so many years, but you'll notice things that just stand out
00:32:58.660
when something isn't right. And I tell this to everybody, I go, when you're the type of person
00:33:03.520
that you pay attention to your surroundings, or you have situational, what we call situational
00:33:06.740
awareness, which everybody should have, and you feel there's something isn't right. Like your sixth
00:33:12.320
sense is like, man, there's something wrong about this. What I'm looking at, there's something wrong
00:33:15.800
here. Usually you're right. Subconsciously, you're realizing that in your whatever years that
00:33:21.740
you've been alive, 20 or 25 years, the picture that you're looking at, it's just not making any
00:33:26.920
sense. Yeah. It's not adding up. It's not adding up because you've been seeing things your whole
00:33:30.740
entire life. And usually you don't know what it is, but then later on you realize, Oh, that car got
00:33:35.980
broken into, or all this happened. And it's because you saw it coming before it happened. You just didn't
00:33:40.440
realize what was going on. You know, something's odd about this guy or something's odd about, you know,
00:33:44.900
this particular scenario. And it just comes with a experience, I guess, life experience.
00:33:49.380
Sure. Yeah. Well, Tony, we're winding down on time. I know that we're just scratching the surface and
00:33:54.740
we didn't even get like too much into the meat of things, but I think it's enough information that
00:33:58.780
guys can see how valuable it is to be prepared and to start thinking about some of these things
00:34:03.440
and implementing some of the things that you talk about, like with, with, uh, training your mind and
00:34:08.720
physical fitness, self-defense, learning weapon systems. So I want to ask you a couple of questions
00:34:13.400
as we wind down. And the first question, I prepared you for this one a little bit. I hope I gave
00:34:17.520
you adequate time, but that is what does it mean to be a man? I would tell you two main things come
00:34:22.680
to my head as a man. And I would tell you, um, protector and provider as a man being in charge
00:34:29.380
of your family or your loved ones or your friends, you should always strive to be a protector on the
00:34:34.660
flip side of things. You should always be a provider for whoever needs assistance or help family,
00:34:39.700
friends, whatever it is. Those two things are pretty important in a man's world. I would think
00:34:44.060
if you lack being a protector, then you should definitely be a provider or if you lack being
00:34:50.780
a provider, then you should definitely be a protector. You know, one of those two. I would
00:34:54.480
tell you. I like it. Yeah. It makes sense. And those are obviously things that we talk about as
00:34:58.100
well, which is why I really felt it was valuable to get you on the show. So Tony, if somebody's
00:35:02.220
listening to this and they want to learn more about what you're doing, delve into this a little
00:35:04.920
bit more in depth than we can do on the show, what's the best way to reach out to you and connect with
00:35:08.920
you? Um, well, uh, well, you can just call my, my business line, but, um, my website is, uh,
00:35:15.700
www.realworld-tactical.com. There you can go on. And if you want to take, um, firearms training,
00:35:23.280
uh, my classes are available year round. I'm based out of South Florida area. Uh, I also have, uh,
00:35:29.360
fitness training online programs, which you can get on my website as well. If you like just seeing crazy
00:35:34.400
fitness stuff, uh, and you have Instagram, you can go to, um, real world underscore tactical.
00:35:40.620
And then, and Facebook is the same exact thing, real world tactical. And I also have my athletes
00:35:44.560
page, which is my name, Tony sent my not there. You're just going to see just some of the fitness
00:35:48.880
things that I do, my strength and conditioning work. Uh, I try to help as many people as I can
00:35:53.620
and give them as much knowledge as possible. I'm very easy. You can find me. Yes, that's right.
00:36:00.240
Yeah. Well, no, you guys, and you guys definitely need to check out the Instagram page. Cause I've
00:36:03.920
seen some of the things that you do, like jumping up on top of multiple tractor tires at once,
00:36:08.280
which is pretty cool. And just some other crazy stuff. So you guys definitely want to check it
00:36:11.740
out there. And then what we'll do too, because that video that I came across, which introduced
00:36:16.000
me to your work, the will to survive, I'm going to make sure I link that up in the show notes page.
00:36:20.560
So definitely make sure you check it out there and you can get all of Tony's contact information as
00:36:24.260
well. Tony, I want to, uh, I want to thank you. I want to tell you that I appreciate the work
00:36:27.720
you're doing. I know, I know that is so valuable for men to incorporate some of this stuff into their
00:36:32.240
life. And I also want to thank you for your service. I know you were in the Marine Corps
00:36:36.060
and we love having veterans on the show and we thank you for your service to us.
00:36:40.580
Oh brother. Well, it's been a truly a pleasure and an honor to be on your show. It means a lot.
00:36:45.380
It was a great time talking to you. Hopefully we can do it again.
00:36:50.280
There you have it guys. Mr. Tony Sentman that teaches us how to be better protectors. I encourage
00:36:54.760
you, highly encourage you to check out his stuff. He has some incredible insight and information
00:36:58.260
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00:37:11.020
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00:37:14.580
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00:37:18.600
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00:37:23.040
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00:37:33.760
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