In this episode, Ryan answers a question from Edward Teniente about leaving a 9-5 job to start a business. What is the most difficult part of leaving an eight-five job and venturing out into starting a business?
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00:02:17.720So the first question today comes from Edward Teniente, I think is how you pronounce that.
00:02:22.320You're going to see I'm just as bad as Kip when it comes to pronouncing names.
00:02:26.240He says this, what is the most difficult part of leaving an eight to five job and venturing out into beginning a business that may grant you the financial freedom to do as you please and be present for your family daily?
00:02:38.560Well, it's actually been a long time since I have been in an eight to five job.
00:02:46.080There's really only one that I can think of that had that typical eight to five, nine to five type schedule, and that was doing some landscaping right out of high school.
00:02:54.880Outside of that, most of it's been shift work, sales work.
00:02:59.020I worked in retail for a lot of years.
00:03:01.380I did the financial planning practice, and obviously I do this now.
00:03:04.320So it's not your typical eight to five, and it's been a very long time.
00:03:07.500But that said, I have had consistent work where it's you have a schedule, and I think that's what Edward is probably talking about here is that you have a schedule, you have a routine, you know what your schedule is, you go in for a set period of time.
00:03:22.020And then usually when you get home, you have some opportunity if you can to completely check out and focus on your family versus being in a business, something like this, where I've got a lot of flexibility and freedom with my time and my schedule.
00:03:34.000And I can schedule something, for example, this morning, if I want to, without having to ask anybody for permission, but I might have to make that up on the tail end.
00:03:42.560So, for example, last night was my daughter's birthday yesterday.
00:03:46.840I decided that I wanted to take her to dinner, so I did.
00:03:50.860I came home, and I had to do a little bit of work to catch up for the day later that evening, 9, 10 o'clock at night.
00:03:57.060So, it's not an 8 to 5, but I'm working just as many, if not more hours than when I was working in an 8 to 5.
00:04:05.440So, I think one common misconception is that we'll have all the freedom and flexibility in the world.
00:04:10.220You'll have the flexibility, but if you want to be a success, then you can't just think that, hey, if I do this, then everything is going to be wonderful, and I don't need to worry about my schedule or what I'm doing.
00:04:21.200No, you need to be hypervigilant, and that's the biggest thing to answer your question.
00:04:24.920Edward, that was a struggle for me, and I'm sure it was a struggle for a lot of people.
00:04:30.440When you leave a set job, you're your own boss now.
00:04:35.700So, when you go into an employer's work, you know exactly what you're going to be doing.
00:04:41.080You know exactly what your duties are.
00:04:44.420You focus typically on your very specific, narrowed work, and then you get to check out.
00:04:51.120But as a business owner, first and foremost, you're everything.
00:04:55.860You're now the business department, the new development, the R&D department, the accounting department, the janitor department, the banking department.
00:05:06.840Payroll, like you've got to do all of it.
00:05:09.880And that can be a real challenge if you're not ready to step out onto your own because you think that, hey, I'm pretty good at doing this thing,
00:05:16.920so I'll automatically be good at being a business owner.
00:05:20.340If you've ever read the book E-Myth, you know that's a myth.
00:05:24.500Just because you're good at the thing, whether it's plumbing or building or accounting or website development or marketing strategies,
00:05:32.280doesn't mean that you're going to be good at everything else that goes into a business.
00:05:37.420And that was the most challenging thing for me is the learning curve.
00:05:40.060I worked with a financial planning practice.
00:05:43.320I started, gosh, almost 20 years ago now with that practice.
00:05:49.080And I remember there came a point after working with them for about five years where I thought I need to go out on my own.
00:05:57.020But the beauty of that was I was fortunately smart enough and had enough advisors in my corner that said,
00:06:03.060hey, here's the things that you need to worry about when you go out on your own.
00:06:06.100And so I spent about eight months to a year working with this other firm,
00:06:10.920knowing that I was going to be leaving as I developed and learned the other side of the businesses besides just sales.
00:06:17.720So if I were you and I'm thinking about going out into business on my own,
00:06:22.720then don't be naive to the idea that just because you're good at whatever it is you do,
00:06:27.560that you're going to be a good business owner.
00:06:29.560Spend a lot of time trying to figure out what else do I need to learn?
00:07:39.440I just know I need financial sovereignty.
00:07:42.460Well, first and foremost, let's not assume that just because you start your own business, you're going to have financial sovereignty.
00:07:48.820You might, and a lot of very wealthy people either built their wealth in business and or real estate.
00:07:57.540So the opportunity is definitely there.
00:07:59.940And the upward mobility for financial freedom and abundance, I think, exists to a greater capacity as an entrepreneur than it does an employee.
00:08:09.240But that's not to say you can't make great money as an employee and there might not be reasons why you would want to be an employee over being an entrepreneur.
00:08:16.880But you've already made that decision.
00:08:18.740The biggest thing, the biggest hurdle, I think, for any business owner is marketing.
00:08:25.520If you don't have, you could have the best widget or gizmo or gadget in the world, ever invented, ever created, the newest technology.
00:08:32.420Just this cutting edge, beautiful product or service.
00:08:39.180But if nobody knows about it, then it really doesn't matter how wonderful the product is.
00:08:46.480So I think marketing is the oxygen in the lungs of the business or the blood pumping through the veins, whichever analogy you want to use.
00:08:55.440You have to have a steady flow of prospects and clients through marketing, through branding, through social media development.
00:09:03.440For me, one of the biggest things that I focus on is learning how to tell good stories, taking examples from my daily life and building them into an applicable story that has a lesson that people can use and gain some inspiration or motivation from or education or literacy from.
00:09:22.420That, to me, that, to me, is a huge component of what I do, and it's going to be a very important part of what you do.
00:10:09.080You know the business well enough where you can come up with new ideas and new strategies for the application of your product or service.
00:10:19.040All of that stuff, I'm not going to say it's easy, but it's not as difficult as getting a new customer.
00:10:25.520So spend a lot of time and energy focusing on how do you market, how do you brand, how do you use social media, how to connect with people, how to introduce people, how to be a networker.
00:10:35.880Those things, for me, are the most important part of the business and something that I think and a lot of people would agree are very, very challenging when it comes to growing a business.
00:10:46.760All right, let's go next to Will Luna.
00:10:49.760So these comments, I had made this post a couple of weeks ago and we got so many questions I wasn't able to get to them all.
00:10:55.500But his question is how to get out of the roommate phase with my wife.
00:11:00.380Now, I do want to say that I did a podcast, I think it was maybe two weeks ago, August 23rd.
00:11:11.660So almost two weeks ago and it's titled How a Man Avoids the Friend Zone.
00:11:17.000So if you're listening to this on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, go back, listen to the Friday Field Notes that came out on August 23rd, How a Man Avoids the Friend Zone.
00:11:29.140And I get into some very key tactics, effective tactics and strategies that you can use to get yourself out of the friend zone, back into an intimate stage with your wife.
00:11:40.540Or maybe you're not married and you have a romantic interest and you want to progress into a romantic interest as opposed to just being friends.
00:11:49.220I think I've got some very practical, pragmatic advice that will help you achieve what you want to achieve and can go into more depth than what I can do here on an Ask Me Anything.
00:11:58.440So again, that's August 23rd, How a Man Avoids the Friend Zone.
00:12:03.140And then make sure you're subscribed to the podcast wherever you listen so that each and every week when these come out, you never miss any of those.
00:12:11.000But I hope I answered the question in that podcast.
00:12:18.080He says, how to stay strong and keep up with exercise when dealing with ongoing joint pains.
00:12:25.160I don't want to jump to conclusions here, but sometimes when I hear questions like these, I can't help but think that this is nothing more than an excuse.
00:12:35.860And I'm not discounting how you're feeling.
00:12:37.980I don't know the severity of the joint pains.
00:12:40.620I don't know what medical conditions you're dealing with.
00:12:44.600But when I hear questions like this, I can't help but think that maybe there's some excuse making about the joint pain.
00:12:51.540And I appreciate you asking the question because it means that you are interested in still developing strength and being fit, although you might be restricted from certain movements.
00:13:02.340The thing that we need to realize is that strength training, which is what I would call lifting heavy weights to build muscle, is not the only way to be fit.
00:13:12.940Now, I think it's something that every man should do.
00:13:15.060You know, you walk down the street and you see this skinny, scrawny little beanpole.
00:13:19.180You can't help but think that's not a masculine guy.
00:13:23.180On the other hand, you see a guy who's big and full and has muscle development and clearly, you know, can hold his own.
00:13:31.380That's somebody that we would just generally consider manly or masculine.
00:13:34.620Now, that doesn't paint the entire picture, right?
00:13:36.980Because that skinny, scrawny guy might be a killer at jujitsu.
00:13:40.200You know, the big fat meathead, he might be unable to move and lack any mobility to do anything effective in his life.
00:13:48.880So, it doesn't paint the entire picture.
00:13:50.580But generally speaking, we can equate muscle mass to being manly and masculine, generally.
00:14:22.480All of my scheduled classes, I continued to go to jujitsu.
00:14:25.340I would sit in the corner and I would do box step-ups or sit-ups, not really any planking or push-ups or anything like that, just because I couldn't.
00:14:37.000I would do one-arm incline bench press with dumbbells.
00:14:43.840And then when the guys would train, I'd watch them and evaluate.
00:14:46.980And then after, when they did instruction, I would sit with all the guys and I would listen to the instruction, even though I couldn't actually do it.
00:14:53.740But I've got another friend who's dealing with some other similar health conditions, injuries mostly, and everything has to be low impact.
00:15:28.620The point that I'm making here is, Thomas, you need to get creative.
00:15:32.460And if you're using this as an excuse, and I'm not saying you are, but if you are, then you need to drop the excuse.
00:15:38.600There's an infinite number of ways to stay fit and healthy and active and productive and even build muscle in spite of medical conditions that you might be dealing with.
00:15:46.980And the only exception to that would be you're in a coma where you literally cannot get out of bed and you literally cannot move your body at all in any capacity or any degree.
00:15:58.460Even people in wheelchairs can exercise, can move if they have the desire to do it.
00:16:04.920And if they're willing to push aside the excuses and get to work in spite of what they're dealing with.
00:16:27.340You can work on the things that your doctor prescribes for you in order to fix the health issues so that you can get back on the path that you want to be on.
00:16:34.940But it does not give us an excuse to stop.
00:16:37.100It just means we might need to take a different path for the time being.
00:16:42.100All right, here's one that I think might be a bit controversial.
00:16:46.680And while I just get into it, this one comes from Leonard Galgay.
00:16:51.700He says, how is it that sexuality is not a factor in learning to do better in our roles of husband, father, brother, son, employee, et cetera?
00:17:00.840Well, I mean, I asked for some clarification on this because it was worded in a way I didn't quite understand.
00:17:07.300He said, how is it that sexuality is not a factor?
00:17:10.300And through clarification, what he's saying is he does not believe that sexuality should be a factor when it comes to doing better in our roles as husband, father, brother, son, employee.
00:17:24.580If you're homosexual, bisexual, I still think you have an obligation, responsibility to improve yourself as a man and just a human being in general.
00:17:34.380And so just because you happen to like men doesn't give you a pass not to improve yourself as a man.
00:17:43.600I don't really know if that's an issue.
00:17:48.520I do think there's this interesting phenomenon that I would call, and I've heard other people call, just gay culture, which is effeminate and it's over-sexualized.
00:17:57.680And you can tell, you know, a man who comes out of the closet, for example, all of a sudden goes from talking like a normal human being to this very cartoonish character type persona that he thinks all homosexuals have.
00:18:12.560I don't understand how coming out of the closet and letting people know that you're a homosexual automatically changes your voice, but it seems to.
00:18:30.840It's almost a mockery in some cases to the extreme of what it actually means to be feminine because it's a caricature of what, I mean, a great example of that, and this is not homosexual, this is transgender, is this man by the name of Dylan Mulvaney.
00:18:46.920He pretends that he's a 15-year-old schoolgirl, you know, and so that's a problem.
00:18:53.260He's making a mockery of what it means to be a young woman, and I think that's a problem.
00:19:03.520You can like men and not be this flamboyant, overly sexualized femboy.
00:19:10.280And I don't understand why that seems to permeate the culture, but it does.
00:19:17.680So even as a gay man, yeah, you have a responsibility and an obligation to improve yourself as a human being.
00:19:24.860Now, that said, I'm not going to tell you that you're going to be less of a man necessarily or that you're not a man at all if you happen to like men or men and women, but I think there's some things that are missing.
00:19:36.120You know, Leonard says, for example, in his first comment, he says, how is it that sexuality is not a factor in learning to do better in our roles as husband, father, brother, son, employee, et cetera?
00:19:46.140Well, let's extrapolate one of those roles, father.
00:19:52.480He can be a father figure, right, through adoption or other methods in vitro and these other types of methods and surrogacy and these types of methods for, you know, having a child with you in your home, but you're not a biological father.
00:20:12.420Well, you just become a good father figure.
00:20:14.380But yeah, I think if the other side of it, too, is that there is something to be said for the very real and distinct differences between the way men generally show up and the way women generally show up.
00:20:27.440And when a man partners with a woman, he is meeting not only a need and a desire, physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual, but he's actually making himself better because a woman is going to round out a man with skills and perspectives and ideas that men just don't have on their own and vice versa, by the way.
00:20:50.360You know, sometimes you'll hear people complain that, oh, women, we don't understand women, and women will say, we don't understand men, and we don't need each other.
00:20:59.360You're not supposed to understand each other.
00:21:02.220If you understood each other, you wouldn't have any need for each other.
00:21:05.200It's the fact that you don't understand or you don't see their perspective or you don't always agree with the way they view the world that makes it something that's actually a valuable union.
00:21:16.180So I'm not going to sit here and tell you that you can't be a man if you're gay.
00:21:20.940But there are some things that you don't have in your life.
00:21:25.440The love of a good woman, the ability to father biological children, and those bring tremendous value and worth.
00:21:35.380And look, I'm not here to tell you that it's a choice or it's not a choice or it's like, I don't know.
00:21:41.540But what I do think is that certain men are born with a predisposition to be gay.
00:21:49.480And then you have a decision to make as to whether or not you want to act upon that predisposition to be attracted to men.
00:22:01.240I'm not going to worry about who you're attracted to, but you have to decide.
00:22:08.380And we've had guys in our Facebook group who are attracted to men who aren't interested in living that lifestyle.
00:22:15.200And so we can talk about how you might resist what they would call a temptation.
00:22:21.680And we have other men who have no problem with that.
00:22:24.900But again, that's not my decision to make.
00:22:26.580But ultimately, whether you're gay or straight or bi or whatever, you do have a responsibility and obligation to make yourself better, not only for yourself, but for people who are relying on you.
00:22:36.440And that's what I think, take it or leave it, or let me know if I'm wrong, which I'm sure you will.
00:22:44.280Zachary Moore says, how do you have a healthy level of pride in your accomplishments and not go down playing them with, oh, anyone can do it with hard work or I just got lucky?
00:23:32.840And that's the first step in learning how to accept compliments with grace.
00:23:38.900And it's important that you do, because a compliment is a gift.
00:23:44.140So let's say it's your birthday, and you invited me to come spend some time with you or your family member, and I bring a gift to you.
00:23:53.320And it's all packaged up, and it's beautiful, and it looks nice, and you open it up, and you get this present, and you say, ah, I don't want this.
00:24:24.000It's the same thing with a compliment.
00:24:25.920If somebody acknowledges something that you did, who are you to deny that person giving you a gift and making them feel good about paying you a compliment?
00:24:35.240And this is something that I have to be very conscious of is we ought to be validating how other people feel.
00:24:41.820We don't have to validate whether they're right or wrong.
00:25:52.720And I think it has to do with this false sense of humility that we tend to equate with not accepting praise or not acknowledging our strengths.
00:26:04.640We can acknowledge when we've done well.
00:26:06.400In fact, we should because then we can actually replicate what we created.
00:26:10.200And by the way, we don't make these decisions in a vacuum.
00:26:12.300If I do really well at work, I'm going to impact my employees, my employer, my community, my clients, all in a very positive way.
00:26:21.620A lot of people, and I think this might be more of a leftist ideology, especially as it pertains to capitalism, that somehow if I do well, it comes at the expense of other people.
00:26:31.600And unless we're in a zero-sum game like a fight, like an MMA fight or something like that, this is not a zero-sum game.
00:26:39.180When I do well, it lifts other people up as long as I'm doing it legally, morally, and ethically.
00:26:44.680So let's get past the, oh, I don't, and a lot of times it's just false humility, right?
00:26:51.720You're just doing it as a virtue signaling thing, like, oh, me, no, shucks, not me, oh, no, I didn't do anything.
00:27:44.320And here's a moment where I can exercise the answer to the previous question of just being grateful and gracious and saying thank you for the compliment.
00:27:53.480I'm glad to know that the work that we're doing is impacting you in a positive way.
00:27:58.500And I'm glad to know that the people that come on the podcast, you gain value from, and I'm honored to do this work.
00:28:04.260Now, the point that I wanted to make on this is that sometimes when we write these things out or we start to reflect on them or we start to vocalize the concerns and problems we have or even just share it with a friend, we can work it out ourselves.
00:28:19.660We begin to come up with the solutions to our own problems.
00:28:25.040And that's what I'll tell a lot of guys in the Facebook group when they ask questions about, I have two business opportunities, which one should I do?
00:29:18.160How many times have you had an issue or a struggle or a challenge in life and you're thinking to yourself, ah, man, I really think I should do option A.
00:29:26.500But I'm going to reach out and see if I can get some other insight or perspective.
00:29:32.960In fact, most of the time, if you're a normal man, a normal human being, when you're presented with an idea, of course, you move right into solution mode.
00:29:48.780But of course, you always have an idea of what you think you should do.
00:29:51.720So then what we can do is we can help you flesh out those ideas by asking you good and poignant questions.
00:29:59.760By having you dig a little deeper than maybe you did and not hit that surface level, but get down really into the real issues, into the pros and cons and struggles and future based on each of these options.
00:30:10.760So I like that Noah solved some of his own problems here.
00:30:15.540I'm not really sure what they are, but it sounds like maybe a difficult situation with his girlfriend, but he's wanting to be grateful for it and work through it.
00:30:23.740And so, Noah, if you have additional questions or insight, I'd be happy to help you with that.
00:30:27.700I can't give you the answer, but I might give you some questions or some considerations.
00:30:38.420What would be an approach to make, let's see, what would be an approach to make understand beyond political frontiers that manliness is not negotiable?
00:30:50.600Well, I think, unfortunately, people need to realize that, and they will realize through either voluntary decisions or through hardship, that stepping up into manliness and masculinity is not something that you should negotiate with.
00:31:06.660A friend of mine, his name is Jack Donovan.
00:31:12.140He says that today, in today's day and age, you have to choose to be a man.
00:31:18.520And that's largely true until crap hits the fan, right?
00:31:24.840Because there's no consequences to poor decision-making in society today.