Order of Man - May 19, 2021


Presiding Without Support, Become More Disciplined, and Deescalating Arguments ｜ ASK ME ANYTHING


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1 hour and 1 minute

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164.62607

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10,192

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691

Misogynist Sentences

5

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00:00:00.000 You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest, embrace your fears, and boldly chart
00:00:05.000 your own path. When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time, every time.
00:00:10.440 You are not easily deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient, strong. This is your life. This is who
00:00:17.240 you are. This is who you will become. At the end of the day, and after all is said and done,
00:00:22.380 you can call yourself a man. Gentlemen, welcome to the Order of Man podcast and to the AMA,
00:00:31.440 the Ask Me Anything. As you can guess, I am running solo today. Mr. Mickler is out with family,
00:00:39.980 so you're going to get my responses to the questions in which we filled it today from
00:00:43.900 the Facebook group. That's facebook.com slash group slash Order of Man to join us there.
00:00:49.320 And of course, to join Mr. Mickler on the Insta, that's at Ryan Mickler. Let's get in. Let's get
00:00:57.740 into this. Primarily, like I mentioned, questions today are from Facebook, but we do filled questions
00:01:04.000 from Insta as well. So make sure to follow up with Mr. Mickler on the social media. All right. Our first
00:01:10.280 question, Alec Candelary. Sorry, Alec. Do you think in today's climate with masculinity under attack,
00:01:19.320 and reject by more people than ever, that we could have a successful army should we need to draft,
00:01:26.700 should a draft arise in a World War III scenario? Today's eight-year-olds very different from those
00:01:32.200 that were drafted, let's say, in Vietnam. So this is not my specialty, of course, but I do think
00:01:39.740 Mr. Mickler spoke with Tim Kennedy about this a few episodes back. So check out that episode. I think
00:01:46.240 it's episode 708 is what I wrote down here. So check that out. I think he speaks to
00:01:53.980 the recruiting process and how the military is struggling getting volunteers into the military.
00:02:02.020 However, let's think about it. What happens when you struggle and you can't find the right resources,
00:02:09.560 whether it be a job or whether it be a military? We adjust our standards, right? And so I wouldn't be
00:02:17.220 surprised that the military hasn't already lowered their standards or adjusted their standards to
00:02:24.200 attract more individuals. And, you know, from a World War scenario, I think, Alec, I think your
00:02:31.840 assumption is probably right. I think there's a tide that has changed in regards to masculinity. I think
00:02:40.020 of Tillman, you know, one of my favorite stories. He's a Cardinals, played for Arizona Cardinals in the
00:02:50.080 NFL after 9-11. He enlisted. I think that kind of man are diminishing in our society. And so, you know,
00:03:00.220 if we had a World War scenario, yeah, possibly. I think so anyway. But once again, of course, you know,
00:03:06.420 I'm not an expert in that. But, you know, reach out and check out that episode with Tim Kennedy,
00:03:10.840 because I think he speaks to this specifically a little bit in his conversation with Mr. Mickler.
00:03:17.740 All right. Nick Bruno. Hey, guys, do either of you have methods of de-escalating public altercations
00:03:25.280 and arguments with strangers, specifically ones that have worked for you in the past? While I'm
00:03:30.700 keeping my self-defense skills dialed in, I'm also looking to work on communication skills to aid them.
00:03:37.760 So the key thing here, and so my response, Nick, is not going to be towards general public
00:03:43.800 altercations versus people that's worked with you. I think the strategy and the approach is roughly
00:03:49.140 about the same in either one of those scenarios. So let's kind of, you know, run those by you really
00:03:55.900 quick. So the first thing is, what is your goal? What are you trying to do? And in your example,
00:04:02.600 we're de-escalating. And so I think step number one is begin with the end in mind, right? Don't let go
00:04:10.080 of the goal of the goal of what you're trying to achieve. I think when we're in a confrontational
00:04:15.160 situation with individuals, we have a tendency to maybe let our ego come into play and we might lose
00:04:22.660 sight of what the ultimate goal is and what we're attempting to do. So that's number one,
00:04:27.640 begin with the end in mind. What is the goal that you're trying to accomplish? Number two,
00:04:32.180 seek to understand their perspective. Why are they so upset? And really enter the scenario from
00:04:41.680 the perspective of you genuinely wanting to understand and to understand where their perspective
00:04:47.260 and where they're coming from. The reason why is then you can actually speak logically with them,
00:04:52.140 perhaps if they're being somewhat logical. But at least you can show some empathy or be able to
00:04:58.820 relate to them and establish trust with them in, as part of that conversation. The second,
00:05:06.120 don't accuse them either. And for that matter, this goes with any argument, right? With someone else,
00:05:14.380 Stephen Covey would say, you know, first seek to understand then to be understood. So we need to be
00:05:18.820 able to relate with them. Don't accuse them of something. Try to eliminate that idea that they're
00:05:24.260 wrong and someone's right. Just understand that they have a different perspective. Um, and that
00:05:29.980 they're probably justified in whatever feelings that they are having. So then that way you can relate
00:05:34.160 to them. And then as part of that process, keep your emotions in check. You have to keep your emotions
00:05:39.520 in check. If people are obviously upset, um, they may attack you. They may start throwing insults
00:05:47.460 at you. You need to keep those emotions in check. So you don't get all riled up and then forget about
00:05:52.800 the entire goal and the objective in which you had and then generate, or just get involved in a,
00:05:57.840 in a negative way. So those are a few things that come to mind. A good resources on this. A good
00:06:03.460 friend of mine, Edward Simmons, he actually bought me this book and sent it to me years ago. Uh,
00:06:08.300 check out crucial conversations. Uh, I think that's a great book from any scenario, whether it's
00:06:13.400 relationships with family members or difficult conversations within, uh, the workforce. And I,
00:06:19.120 I do think a lot of the principles in that book are applicable to even deescalating with
00:06:23.140 individuals that you don't even know. Um, now it's, it's a little bit shortened,
00:06:27.760 right? Because we have to focus on establishing trust right away. And then we can speak from a
00:06:32.120 perspective of after, after we can speak from a place of understanding their perspective,
00:06:36.860 um, and hopefully kind of, uh, talk them down, um, from, from the situation that you're dealing
00:06:42.760 with. So, all right, Lee Chappelle, my wife and I found out yesterday that she's having,
00:06:48.480 um, our first child. This news has restored a lot of faith in God because we were told that it was
00:06:54.800 pretty much in practice, practically impossible for her to get pregnant. With that said, what are
00:07:00.240 some things and organizations and expecting father can get involved with to make sure their kids grow up
00:07:05.820 the proper way? I've always avoided the parenting podcast because it always was a touchy subject for me.
00:07:12.760 Um, Lee, this is totally not what you're asking, but when I read this question, I immediately was
00:07:19.500 like, you know, restored my faith in God, right? Because you got what you want. Um, so if you don't
00:07:27.280 mind, and Lee, I, first off, I don't know you, right? But this is a touchy subject, right? And, and
00:07:33.780 especially if this is something that's very meaningful to you, um, I could see where we might be
00:07:39.860 tempted to lose our faith in God or a higher power because this is something that we feel
00:07:47.260 we should have in our lives. Um, and, but I just feel inclined to say this, uh, don't lose faith
00:07:54.500 because we didn't get something. Uh, I, I try to see it this way and, and, and I'm not speaking from a
00:08:02.400 place of like, from a superior place, right? I, I, I try to do this often. And one of the things I try
00:08:10.320 to remind myself about is I don't deserve anything. I don't deserve anything from God and I, and, and I
00:08:18.880 don't deserve anything from anyone else. And so we kind of have, we walk around with this story
00:08:25.000 and these interpretations of like, well, I should, you know, I should be able to have children. I
00:08:30.580 should. And it says who, so, so don't throw out faith. Don't throw out something that might give
00:08:41.340 you guidance and direction in life because it doesn't fit your narrative of what, how life should
00:08:46.820 show up for you. So, uh, and, and obviously maybe that's not applicable to you, Lee, right? Because
00:08:53.300 in this case, you know, you are quote unquote, getting what you want, but be mindful of that.
00:08:57.900 And maybe I'm speaking to someone else that's listening is just guys, that's not how life works.
00:09:04.480 And, and we need to stop, like we need to freaking let go of this idea of like how it should be
00:09:10.120 and let go of some of our expectations and be grateful and deal with what we do have.
00:09:16.820 So back to your question, uh, resources on, um, you know, existing father. So first off,
00:09:25.220 congrats, like awesome, super cool, best thing, at least for me, best thing that's ever happened
00:09:32.000 to me in my life is, uh, having the opportunity to be a father. Um, also one of the most difficult
00:09:38.060 things I've ever had to do with my life. Who would have thought, right? Um, and, and what's
00:09:44.720 interesting about your question, which is great. And, and you're not, I'm not saying that you're
00:09:49.040 saying this, but, but I think, um, I'm going to use your question as an example here is,
00:09:54.180 you know, we want to be good at something. If you want to be good at a sport, what do you do?
00:09:59.600 You train, right? We, we train to be, become better at golf, right? We, we train to be on the
00:10:04.780 basketball team. Um, you want a good job. What do you do? You go to university or you get some
00:10:10.880 formalized training, right? We train to be good at something. How often, or I don't know,
00:10:16.740 this is a question I'm posing the guys on the call that are soon to be fathers. Do you train to be a
00:10:21.500 good father or, or for some of us that are fathers, do we train to be good fathers? And the answer is
00:10:28.760 no. Like for the most part, we just kind of wing that one. And in the grand scheme of things,
00:10:34.740 that's more important than the job. That's more important than the sports we play. That's more
00:10:39.320 important than anything else is being a good father. So yeah, we should train and we should
00:10:46.200 be reading books and we should be studying and we should like work on communication skills and,
00:10:52.560 and how do we handle our children? And, and one of the, of course, one of the best ways that we can
00:10:57.680 do that is obviously being a great role model for them. Um, but there's also additional resources that
00:11:03.300 we should focus on. One thing that comes to mind, if you're having a boy and I I've said this so many
00:11:08.820 times and I feel silly even seeing it more, but it's so true. If you're having a boy, you got to
00:11:14.200 read the boy crisis. You really do. That book is so profound. Um, you need to find parenting books.
00:11:21.400 And I, and I, unfortunately I don't, I, I can't think of any off the cuff. Right. Um, but, um, okay.
00:11:28.840 A couple of things. Jordan Peterson's books, um, are great. His content is good. I think around
00:11:34.540 parenting. Um, another book I recently read that what was pretty profound in the space of parenting
00:11:40.160 is outward mindset by the Harbinger Harbinger Institute. I would look that book up, up as well.
00:11:46.100 Um, and then I would really focus on like psychology books, you know, whether it's around, um, cognitive
00:11:53.420 behavior. Um, I would even focus on, uh, books, um, I'm, I'm spacing it right now, you know,
00:12:02.380 on F yourself books like that. I, I think the more that you can understand the psychology of human
00:12:09.300 nature and how we function, uh, the better off you're going to be. And, and, and so hats off to
00:12:16.160 you. One that you're having a baby. That's super awesome to that. You're even seeing this as a,
00:12:21.660 as a critical issue. Um, but I, I, I wouldn't look past the idea that one of the best things that you
00:12:27.940 can do is by being the best man possible. And so I'd focus on being a man of integrity. I'd focus
00:12:35.220 on leveling up in areas of your life. I'd focus on getting your nutrition and your fitness dialed in
00:12:41.220 because that affects your children, obviously. Um, and I would also focus on making sure that you're
00:12:48.420 showing up as a great husband, because that is the example that your children will eventually have
00:12:54.640 on what it looks like to have a successful, uh, marriage. And they're going to, you know,
00:12:59.720 look at how you treat their mom. Um, whether it's a girl on the kind of man that they want to be with,
00:13:05.780 um, or your boys in regards to how you treat a woman. So just make sure to dial in, in those areas
00:13:11.520 and, and do the research on the parenting side. I wish I could remember some other books I've read on
00:13:16.580 the parenting side, but at least those are the ones that, that come to mind. Um, if those cross
00:13:21.620 my mind later, I'll, maybe I'll come back to your question. So, all right. Kappa Philip,
00:13:27.180 as a man who has just turned 30, my fiance is also 30. How would you bring up the subject of wanting
00:13:32.920 children in a more realistic way? I mean that we both want children. However, she is very career focused
00:13:38.780 and, and got the idea. We are not ready yet. We both have permanent jobs with good pay. Our own,
00:13:45.480 we are own house and a very little debt. I've been ready for this for a while, but I get shot
00:13:51.880 down whenever I bring it up. How would you advise discussing the subject without potentially driving
00:13:56.820 a wedge between us? All right. So a couple of things that kind of come in mind. Um, first be clear
00:14:04.640 that she really wants a kid. Um, I know she quote unquote said that in the past, and maybe she even
00:14:11.380 says that now. Um, but make sure, um, this is the last thing that you want her doing out of spite or
00:14:20.460 being coursed into. So make sure that she's on the same page with you. Second, I would get logical
00:14:27.840 on your options, um, and have that conversation. So when is the best time? Um, and, and, and, and
00:14:36.520 as you have that conversation, cause she always, she obviously has some type of perspective, right?
00:14:40.960 That like, what makes it not a good time and what would make it a good time? Like I would really have
00:14:46.080 that conversation on, on clearly defining what that is with the realization that there's never going to
00:14:53.100 be a perfect time. Um, and then third also have the conversation that time, um, is an issue. Uh,
00:15:02.020 time is going to be against you. In fact, if she's 30 time is already against you a little bit. Um,
00:15:08.840 and obviously the, the science says that the longer you wait, the, the higher probability
00:15:14.400 is that there could be complications, um, in the pregnancy. And she may not want to hear that. And
00:15:22.100 she may not want to think about it, but that's, that's the reality. That's truth. Um, and so that's
00:15:27.840 something certainly for her to consider, uh, fourth, I would get clear on her fears and the reason that
00:15:35.300 she feels that right now is not a good time. Like why, what is it that she's afraid of? Um,
00:15:43.380 and, and you're going to really need to get clear on those concerns so you can help mitigate them
00:15:50.440 and, and, and really like understand her, right? Don't make her wrong for it, but like
00:15:55.480 have the open dialogue, understand where her fears are coming from. Uh, and then maybe there's some
00:16:00.920 conversation there for you to like, Oh, well, you know, I understand that that's your fear.
00:16:05.540 What if I did this? Or what if I, you know, got a better paying job or, you know what I mean?
00:16:09.980 Whatever that is, I would get really clear on what the concerns are. Uh, so you guys can have a
00:16:15.060 logical conversation about it. The, the key thing is, um, try not to make her wrong for not jumping on
00:16:23.220 board. That's not going to go well for you. Right. And, and to be frank, uh, this is a perfect,
00:16:28.320 crucial conversation. So maybe get your hands on that book. Um, seek first to understand,
00:16:34.220 understand where she's coming from. Keep asking the why understand where it's coming from. Try
00:16:38.480 not to make her wrong or like, well, that's not the case. No, like just understand that that's her
00:16:43.580 perspective and her reality a little bit. And so, um, and then kind of go from there. Hopefully that
00:16:49.560 helps. All right. Travis Arnett, have you guys ever considered having a female on the show who
00:16:54.540 supports and agrees with the movement to restore men to men, to gain a woman's perspective on why
00:16:59.520 it is important for men to embrace their roles, to protect, provide, and preside, and perhaps gain
00:17:04.820 insight on how women at large have been conditioned to dismiss masculinity, uh, as toxic. Um, so first off,
00:17:14.720 uh, Travis, we, we, we have had a woman or women on the podcast in the past. Um, and I don't think
00:17:20.860 this is something that Ryan is like against. Um, certainly the, the primary criteria of the order
00:17:27.620 of man movement is, uh, to help men become better men. Right. Um, and, and as long as I think it's in
00:17:34.780 line with that mission, um, I think Ryan's open to having that conversation with anybody, uh, regardless
00:17:41.280 of a vendor or positions or politics or anything else. Um, I do think it's important to note though,
00:17:47.940 that, um, it's the man to man conversations that are kind of lacking in society. Um, and I do believe
00:17:56.460 that men learn best from other men that we, that's, that's how we step into manhood is from other men,
00:18:03.220 um, and not from women. Um, that may sound controversial, but that's the reality. And so me,
00:18:09.720 obviously that's probably the majority of the reason why we have the guests we have, because
00:18:13.400 those are who men are looking up for looking up to, I should say, and they have the greater impact,
00:18:19.720 um, on men. Right. So, um, but certainly something that is not against, um, what we're doing here on
00:18:27.560 the podcast. It's just kind of how it works out that way. So if you have some suggestions on female
00:18:33.300 guests, you know, feel free to shoot those over to, to Ryan. And I'm sure that he would entertain
00:18:38.500 those guests, uh, to connect with him on Instagram. That's Ryan Mickler, M I C H L E R. John Regan
00:18:46.200 was having a lot of mental health problems and I let go of my role as a presider. And my wife had to
00:18:53.420 step into that. Now that I'm coming back, feeling better and doing things I know I need to for me as
00:18:59.860 a man, but my wife is still on that role. And we have frequent conflicts. Now, how to,
00:19:06.600 how do I navigate that without damaging the relationship and get discouraged and slip back
00:19:12.460 into a bad mental place? All right. So your wife stepped up because you stepped down, right?
00:19:20.640 And she filled a role. Um, so John, and I read this, you know, how do I, without damaging the
00:19:29.240 relationship or get discouraged and slip back? And so by default, when I read like discourage
00:19:37.800 and slip back, it's like, Oh, okay. John's like on the edge here. Right. And if I don't give you the
00:19:42.600 right answer, or if I offend you in a slight way, it's like, you're going to throw your hands up
00:19:47.820 and slip back right in a bad mental place. So first off, I don't know what a bad mental space is
00:19:58.620 and, and I'm not a doctor, right? So, you know, or a psychiatrist. So, you know, figure that out,
00:20:06.500 figure that out on your own. But however, one of the benefits is I'm not that. So I get to tell you
00:20:11.880 exactly what I think. And you obviously answered the question because you want to hear what I think.
00:20:15.580 So the first thing is if you're on the edge of slipping back and being discouraged
00:20:24.060 because you're having a difficult time with her, then you're not making the right decisions for
00:20:33.000 the right reason. So let's, let's get into what presiding is really about. And, and in my opinion,
00:20:40.400 to preside doesn't require your spouse and like a title for everyone to like praise you and say,
00:20:49.880 okay, you're in a presiding position. So like, here you go. No, you preside. Why?
00:20:57.180 Because you're invested to the desired outcome. Cause you're committed to making sure,
00:21:04.560 or you're committed to serving to make sure something gets taken care of. And guess what?
00:21:09.940 That doesn't require. That doesn't require her to like promote you to that. It doesn't require her
00:21:19.360 to do anything for that matter. It requires you to care. And, and, and from it, from a position,
00:21:26.940 like a true caring position, not from authority. And so I would challenge you and hopefully I'm not
00:21:34.320 coming across too harsh here, John. I would challenge you is focus on like, why do I want to
00:21:41.180 preside and have that exist above and beyond what anyone else thinks? And you do it because you're
00:21:49.760 committed to that. Now also give her some grace in your, in your, you're mentioning here, right?
00:21:58.060 I had mental problems. I stepped down. She stepped up. Well, you officially got yourself in a position
00:22:06.100 where she may have lost some trust in you. And maybe she feels like she can't rely on you now.
00:22:15.260 That's going to take time. And it sucks. Like, I totally get it. Like, you know, that's unfair.
00:22:24.700 Possibly you might think that's unfair that you have a, uh, uh, you know, you have a, a dip,
00:22:31.340 you know, and all of a sudden now you have to fight harder, but man, welcome to life. I can make a
00:22:36.680 mistake tomorrow and destroy relationships and then immediately turn back around and be a man of
00:22:42.120 integrity. And guess what? It's going to take time. So give her some grace and understand that you're
00:22:48.240 going to have to build back that confidence with her. And I think the best way that you can do that
00:22:53.400 is being invested and committed to the outcome of presiding and caring and making that the primary
00:23:01.680 reason why you do what you do. And when she fights back or you guys have some conflict in that area,
00:23:09.240 just help communicate to her that you're coming from a position of caring, not from a position of
00:23:15.480 control. Um, the other things that kind of come to mind is keep to your agreements, set clear
00:23:22.940 expectations, over communicate with her. And you're going to have to be a man of integrity at all times,
00:23:28.620 at all times, you have to honor your word. And, and through that, she'll start being able to rely
00:23:38.060 on you more because she knows she can, but it's going to take time. And are we perfect? No. And
00:23:44.240 neither are you. And the minute you slip up, the minute you're out of integrity, you need to restore
00:23:48.860 it. And when you restore it, by the way, and I struggle with this, when you restore your integrity,
00:23:53.860 you need to communicate that just like clearing it in your own head and like going, Oh, you know,
00:24:00.780 okay. Yeah, I know it. Got it. No, you need to apologize. You need to fix the scenario. You need
00:24:05.640 to communicate that to her. So focus on being a man of integrity, give her some grace. You're going
00:24:10.880 to have to restore that trust in her focus on what presiding really means. And it's really,
00:24:17.760 from my perspective, it's you being invested to a desired outcome. Like it's service.
00:24:24.800 Your commitment to service and then keep your agreements, set clear expectations and over
00:24:32.020 communicate. All right. Gary Tate Kip. Every time I catch these AMAs in time, I can never
00:24:39.860 think of a good quality question. So I'm just going to ask, apparently this is not a good
00:24:44.720 quality question. Who would win at Brazilian Jiu Jitsu between yourself and Ryan Mickler?
00:24:49.500 Um, so I read this question cause it's funny. I should write. Um, I've been training like 10 years
00:24:56.780 longer than Ryan. So you'd think that 10 years of more training, uh, would warrant, uh, maybe a
00:25:06.080 quote unquote win on my hat on my part. Um, but that's not always how it works, man. I get caught
00:25:11.800 all the time and I I've getting caught by white belts and blue belts and purple belts.
00:25:16.960 And, uh, and then I just get my ass kicked by black belts. So, and other Brown belts for
00:25:21.160 that matter. So yeah, sure. Uh, I should beat Ryan, but in the same breath and I know Gary,
00:25:27.580 you're just kind of being fun. Uh, and it is fun, but I was like, you know, there's some,
00:25:31.380 there's a good thing here in this question. And the thing is, is that we do this kind of,
00:25:36.260 right? We do this compared all who would win between these two. And, and, and we might even
00:25:40.800 compare ourselves to other individuals and think that like we should win when we're out. It's like,
00:25:45.860 uh, no, actually not that you shouldn't try to, but is there meaning behind Ryan or around me
00:25:54.140 beating Ryan in a Jiu Jitsu match? I mean, let's hope that I would actually be able to tap in 10 years,
00:26:00.620 but I've also rolled with Ryan. He's a tough SOB. So, um, I want to put a passing and, and I'm not
00:26:07.200 a hundred percent sure he hasn't caught me. So I think he has in the past. So it's up for grabs,
00:26:12.880 Gary. All right. Brian Phillips, how do you choose the right business to open? If you under, uh, if you
00:26:19.980 understand that most of the things you're passionate about are not lucrative or in the fields where,
00:26:25.380 you know, you want to be able to compete with big businesses. As an example, I would like to open a
00:26:31.320 fitness facility, but, but in my area in Charlotte is absolutely saturated with gyms and big chain
00:26:37.000 fitness companies like gold's gym, planet fitness, and et cetera. My wife is in a similar situation
00:26:41.980 situation where she would like to open some sort of, of children and mother's maternity clothing store,
00:26:48.400 but it's hard to compete with big chain stores and online businesses. All right. So I got it.
00:26:53.940 I got a couple of examples, Brian. So first off, um, when I started my business, um, roughly it's been
00:27:03.120 probably about 15 years ago. I think, um, I competed at a global level. I complete competed with consulting
00:27:12.860 firms, um, in New York. I competed with consulting firms in new, uh, in Utah. I competed with consulting
00:27:19.960 firms in Washington, DC with the department of defense. Um, I competed with all kinds of companies.
00:27:27.680 Why would they choose? And in the early days, it was just me. Why would a company choose just me?
00:27:34.180 Because that was more valuable. So I, I, I'd be careful just to assume that you can't compete at a
00:27:43.220 larger scale. Now, are you going to compete with the same cashflow? Possibly not, but, but you're a
00:27:50.060 lean machine, right? It's you, it's your wife. It's maybe a handful of employees. There's things
00:27:55.360 in that market that you can go after that. They can't, maybe you can have lower rates or whatever.
00:28:00.460 Right? So a couple of things that come to mind is one, what did UPS do when they started?
00:28:07.720 Think about that. UPS competed with the United States postal service, a company that was government
00:28:19.880 controlled and managed that had a built in, like literally a built in client base. And, and don't
00:28:28.640 get me pissed off about this, but like they even sell my data to people and make money without my
00:28:35.020 approval, right? Like that is the United States postal service. They can't fail. Like they're
00:28:41.380 failing and they can't fail, but FedEx and UPS can do the same exact service. You don't think those
00:28:49.680 guys at one point thought, Oh man, there's no way we can get into this market. Well, they did. And they
00:28:55.460 did an awesome job. By the way, if I remember the story correctly, that was like a college project.
00:29:00.560 And the kid got like an F on that suggested business plan, obviously worked out. So I want to
00:29:10.400 downplay your ability to pull something off. If anything, I would look at that and say saturated
00:29:19.280 in those markets. Awesome. Now, you know, there's a need address that, check that off. You know, that
00:29:26.280 there's a need for those things. So a couple of things of advice or a couple of things to consider
00:29:30.860 here, define what your unique selling proposition is. What makes you different than all the other
00:29:38.640 companies get very clear on that and make sure that you communicate it in a way in your marketing
00:29:46.800 material to your client base. You need to identify why you're different. That's your unique selling
00:29:52.320 proposition. Number two, focus on a minimal viable product and MVP. That's a really great way to test
00:30:00.140 out the market and validate that your unique selling proposition is going to work. Don't fall into this
00:30:07.160 pit of, Oh, well, I gotta, I gotta have this massive building and take this loan or whatever. And then
00:30:14.860 I'll go get customers. No, there's ways to pull this off. There's ways, if you're creative enough
00:30:20.060 for you to get in the fitness area without quote unquote, like becoming a gold gym and making,
00:30:28.520 you know, massive investments all to try to see if it works or not. So focus unique selling proposition
00:30:35.520 and then establish an MVP and a minimal viable product and test out the market.
00:30:41.640 Um, the last thing I would suggest just cause it's on my mind, uh, story brand, read that book,
00:30:48.360 focus on making your client, the hero, and you support them and figure out how do you wow your
00:30:58.500 clients? One of the things that we do, uh, where I work is we talk about this, you know,
00:31:03.880 how did we wow the client? We don't want to do just a good job. I want the client to be wowed,
00:31:10.900 to go, Whoa, that was an amazing experience. Figure out what that is. And maybe that's your
00:31:16.920 unique selling proposition, right? It was wherever that wow is, but I want to downplay, uh, your
00:31:21.900 situation. I think it could easily work. So Cordell Neely, can you elaborate more about when
00:31:31.040 wild at heart talks about finding an adventure to live specifically about men finding themselves,
00:31:37.000 wanting to go West and be everything they were made to be. I've had this gut feeling or calling
00:31:43.300 to go South and to live in Texas or Tennessee or some other state in the South. My reservation is
00:31:48.980 that practically all my family lives here in Kansas and I've lived here my whole life, uh,
00:31:55.380 lived my whole life here thus far. All right. So, uh, and, and Cordell, maybe this is like the
00:32:02.820 adventure to live is part of, you know, moving. Uh, I think that's, would be different for other
00:32:09.940 individuals. I think for the, for me, what this really means is, um, I'm trying to remember this
00:32:18.940 phrase that I used to use and I've heard live a life worth living. Like, think about it. What does it
00:32:28.480 mean to live a life worth living? And, and for some of us that is taking risk that is doing exciting
00:32:36.520 things for others. It's finding a life of purpose and meaning something more than just a nine to five,
00:32:43.940 right? Something that lights us up. Now that could be our day job. That thing that lights us up could be
00:32:50.120 our side hustle. It could be an organization that we're part of. Like it's really around, um,
00:32:56.820 that vision purpose fulfillment, and then taking the necessary risks to see them through.
00:33:04.100 I think most of us, um, don't do, don't go after those things because we don't want to take the risk.
00:33:13.820 And sometimes the risk is perceived. It's not even like real risk. And so I think we need to be
00:33:22.740 unreasonable with ourselves sometimes and kind of just put it out there and go for it, whatever that
00:33:28.700 is. And so maybe moving to Texas or yeah, moving to Texas. Is that for you or Tennessee? Um, but
00:33:37.720 regardless, I think it, you got to define that for yourself. Cause I even think you could move South and
00:33:44.700 still feel that you're not living, you know, you're not living that way. So define what is a life worth
00:33:52.420 living. KJ drown. How can I get my wife to see the changes I'm making to be healthier in life
00:34:05.260 is not to leave her alone, leave her one day. And that trying to get my son in martial arts is not
00:34:11.340 teaching him to be violent. Um, Oh man. So, so first off, um, maybe I shouldn't say, well, I'm trying to
00:34:24.560 think if this is true before I say it, but my natural instinct is, um, I do take martial arts
00:34:31.040 to learn how to be violent. So maybe we just address that right off the bat. It's
00:34:37.340 a form of violence, a form of aggression, um, within, within the confines of a martial arts school
00:34:46.440 where we learn discipline, the ability to control our emotions, um, maybe to be violent, but to also
00:34:55.020 do it logically and be able to fill that aggression and deal with our ego and our fears all at the same
00:35:03.600 time while being violent with someone. So, so there you go there. KJ, there's the answer to your
00:35:11.460 wife. I am sending a martial arts to be violent. So now that we have that addressed, um, I would ask,
00:35:20.260 do you know why she's afraid of those things? Why is she afraid of her, of you leaving her one day?
00:35:27.300 And what, where's the fear coming from about your son being violent? Um, I think it's an important
00:35:36.320 conversation to be had and, and, and an answer that you should probably get present with so you can
00:35:43.520 get her committed to what you're doing. Now I say this all, but you know, how do I get my wife to see
00:35:51.020 the changes? Well, first off, you can't control your wife. So let's get that clear. Um, now can
00:35:58.500 you own how you show up in relationships? Sure. You know, but you're not going to chain, like you
00:36:04.360 can't force someone to see you a certain way, but I do think there's power in taking responsibility in
00:36:09.320 regards to how you show up. Um, and so I would start evaluating how you're showing up. How are you
00:36:15.540 showing up outside of, you know, going to the gym? How are you showing up in a relationship that,
00:36:20.120 that she thinks that's a risk to your relationship? Maybe there's areas in which you're showing up
00:36:26.520 in your, in your relationship with her, that she has a reason to question whether you're going to
00:36:33.100 leave her someday. And now the gym is just a manifestation of that. So I don't think it's
00:36:40.240 about convincing her about, Hey, going to the gym is not me leaving you. I think it's what actions am I,
00:36:46.200 I'm making on a regular basis that would even cause her to consider that now, same thing possibly with
00:36:53.860 her son. What is she concerned about? Like, what is the real fear? Yeah. You know, as she does her
00:37:01.200 past show that, you know, she's had violent men in her life. And so she doesn't want her son to show
00:37:07.200 up that way. Like, and, and whether logical or not, or whether right or wrong, she probably coming to
00:37:14.120 the table with that perception for a reason. I think it's valuable for you to understand her
00:37:19.280 and understand why she might think that way. And then you can address those concerns from a place
00:37:27.740 of understanding, um, from a baseline of, of understanding her, uh, her feelings about,
00:37:37.020 you know, you leaving or, you know, the stability of your relationship or your son being violent. So
00:37:41.200 I would really focus on asking the why deep dive into the why. Uh, and then you can kind of deal
00:37:47.420 with it from there, uh, and own how you show up. I think that's the other thing, the other key thing
00:37:52.660 there. All right. Shane Matthews, we're kind of going through these quick. We might get through all
00:37:57.000 your questions. All right. Shane Matthews, this is relating discipline. How do you become more
00:38:01.980 disciplined in every way? I feel like I get derailed a lot in every way, every way.
00:38:09.920 Um, all right, Shane. So I'm going to, yeah, this, this is where I'm going to go with this
00:38:18.960 disciplined. When I hear this, I think when you don't have discipline, you're not doing
00:38:27.340 what you know, you should do. You're out of integrity. You're making excuses and you're
00:38:37.860 lying to yourself. You probably aren't honoring your word to yourself and you've accepted mediocrity,
00:38:46.300 uh, as a version of yourself. Like you've, you've accepted the perception that you're this guy,
00:38:52.680 that you're the individual that sleeps in when he knows he should get up, that you, um, don't do the
00:39:00.220 workouts. Um, or you might skip reps like little things. You wouldn't do those things unless you
00:39:07.280 bought into the idea of that's the kind of man you are. And, and by the way, and Shane, you already
00:39:14.120 know this is important, but hopefully this kind of solidifies the thought process here. When we make
00:39:21.180 excuses, cause that's what has to happen, right? You have to make an excuse for you to live with
00:39:26.420 yourself. You're like, Oh, I'm not going to finish. Why? Well, uh, you know, I got up late and I'm
00:39:31.960 really tired or I'm going to skip leg day. Why? Well, because I had that run or I step late. I'll
00:39:37.180 do it later. Like we make excuses or my favorite that I do all the time is I think today's an exception
00:39:44.080 to the rule. Not today. Today's a bad day. So I'm going, it's going to be okay today. And then
00:39:51.180 tomorrow, the someday of the week, the eighth day of the week called someday, then, then
00:39:56.760 I'll do it. When things are more aligned, then I will. And those excuses I have to come
00:40:02.560 up with for me to be okay with it. And what's interesting is sometimes, and not all the time,
00:40:09.620 but most, probably most of the time when we make excuses, we sometimes even attach them
00:40:15.480 to blaming someone else. This is something I learned from the outward mindset book that
00:40:20.040 when we make excuses and we're out of integrity, we, we, those excuses are, well, I didn't do
00:40:26.560 this because, and then we have a tendency to point someone else. Well, they should have,
00:40:31.000 or if she was this way, then I would. And then we have to perpetuate that story and that blaming
00:40:38.460 with someone else for us to live with ourselves. And we drag that story along. And then when we
00:40:46.640 get an opportunity, we'll list someone in our, in our story. Oh, let me tell you about
00:40:51.960 my wife. Oh my goodness. And then I'll bitch and moan to someone else. They'll nod their
00:40:56.660 head. Oh man, I feel sorry for you. And then I feel even more justified in my excuse. Oh yeah.
00:41:01.860 You know, I knew I was right. He totally agreed with me and we enlist and we list and we speak
00:41:07.220 ill and evil of other individuals. Also, we can live with ourselves and the fact that we're out
00:41:13.220 of integrity. It's not, and don't get me wrong. It is discipline, but what's at risk. Hopefully
00:41:22.540 you're seeing what's at risk. It's how you show up. It's how you're perceived. It's your relationships.
00:41:32.960 It's how you see yourself. That's at risk of you not being disciplined. That's the cost
00:41:42.200 of not having discipline. You're out of integrity.
00:41:50.580 And what's interesting too, I think is when we, when we are, when we have full integrity,
00:41:59.540 we deal with things better. We show up in a different way. And hopefully someone else can
00:42:06.800 relate to this. And this isn't just a Kip thing. When I'm on the path and I have full integrity
00:42:13.340 and I go home and I have an argument with my wife, I deal with that a hundred percent better
00:42:19.260 because I'm in line with myself.
00:42:26.180 So when you don't have discipline, you're not showing up that way.
00:42:29.960 When you don't have discipline, you're yanking away some of your freedom
00:42:36.080 and then you're showing up in a way that's impactful to those in your life, a negative,
00:42:45.720 a negative way.
00:42:47.880 Our impact in our families, in our societies, in our workplace is massive. And I don't think
00:42:56.080 that we understand how great that impact is. And when you're mediocre, your impact sucks
00:43:03.680 and your light is not even shining in a way to uplift individual in other individuals. You're a shadow.
00:43:12.660 You don't make a difference. So Ryan and I talk about this sometimes. It's like
00:43:21.500 the carrot or the stick. That's the stick. I'm giving you the stick. The stick motivates me.
00:43:27.500 Now the carrot would probably be, Hey, Shane, get discipline, man. Once you have discipline,
00:43:33.060 you have more freedoms, right? And we can talk about extreme ownership and some of Jocko's
00:43:37.980 philosophy around discipline equals freedom. The stick part is you're going to live a life of
00:43:44.420 regret. So get off the bleachers and get your ass on the court of life and start living in integrity,
00:43:52.320 have full integrity, have a life of discipline, because what's at stake is how your kids get raised.
00:43:58.480 What's at stake is how your wife has support from you. What's at stake is how you could have uplifted
00:44:04.300 all the people in your work and your community and your neighbors. That's what's at stake.
00:44:07.980 So what's it going to be? You're going to be, you're going to die and be forgetted or forgotten.
00:44:15.400 Sorry from Elson or Utah. You're going to die and get forgotten. Are you going to live in a way
00:44:21.880 where you have lasting impact? A couple of resources that come to mind, of course, extreme ownership,
00:44:27.880 atomic habits, as a man thinketh, man, the, the, I, I had focused on the cost.
00:44:39.800 Hopefully that helps Jake Thompson. I have a busy schedule and can only train Brazilian Jiu Jitsu once
00:44:46.320 a week. How would you recommend making the most of my time so I can progress faster? What skills and
00:44:51.580 moves would you recommend working on for context? I'm a white belt and I've been training since new
00:44:56.640 years of 2021. So still pretty new. So Jake, first off, dude, don't quit.
00:45:04.040 And I think like statistically the chances you'd be quitting Jiu Jitsu is like really, really high.
00:45:09.360 Don't quit. Second, let's get to your question. So, um, so don't quit. Second, um, I would show up with
00:45:20.740 intent. Uh, and we talk about this sometimes in the iron council, um, which is the exclusive
00:45:26.820 brotherhood of, of the order of man to actually learn about the iron council. You can go to order
00:45:31.400 of man.com slash iron council. Like how I did that. Um, and we talk about affirmations and,
00:45:39.320 and one of the things I like about affirmations is it's, it's a thought, it's a meditation around how
00:45:45.560 you're going to show up in life. And I would think through it like for a guy that's getting the most
00:45:53.700 out of his training session. How would you show up? How do you walk in the room? How do you get
00:45:59.760 dressed? How do you walk on the mat? How do you do moves like focused laser focused show up with intent?
00:46:07.460 Second, I'd focus on trying to get some drill time in. If you can only go once a week,
00:46:14.640 show up a little early, find a partner to go drills, do some drills and crazy amount of drills.
00:46:22.200 Like I'm going to drill this move a hundred times, even though like the 10th time you're like, I got
00:46:27.280 this. I don't need to drill it anymore. You drill it anyway. So much of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is about
00:46:33.020 muscle memory and it starts just, it's like built into your body. Some of the best training segments
00:46:38.860 I've ever had while training over the last 12 years is when my mind was off and my body just did
00:46:45.700 it. That's through reputation. So figure out, get those drills in, find a partner drill often.
00:46:54.060 Now you ask what skills and moves would you recommend working on? So I would focus on
00:46:59.100 a couple of main positions and what your options are from that position. Now you can, you, you can
00:47:05.700 focus on a guard, right? Figure out what guard you want to focus on, whether it's a close guard,
00:47:12.300 93 spider guard, whatever, like make it your game. And, and I've gone through seasons and I don't even
00:47:19.340 know if there's a recommendation, if anyone else would recommend this, but, but I I'm speaking from
00:47:23.620 my experience at least that when I laser focus in on something, I get really good at it. Like
00:47:30.380 really, really good at it. And then, and then it's almost like a time in a season. And then I move on
00:47:35.340 and then I like focus on something else. So like for the longest time, a double under stack pass was
00:47:40.120 like my bread and butter. Like I loved it. I would force it. I would even force it when I don't have it.
00:47:46.020 And what would happen is I would learn like, okay, I got to set this up in a way because they know I'm
00:47:50.680 going for it or they would counter in different ways. And then I would figure out another way to
00:47:55.040 get it. Right. And so, but I was just laser focus on a double under stack and I got so good at it.
00:48:00.600 Now it's just like in my back pocket. I hardly ever use a double under stack. Why? Cause I don't need
00:48:06.140 to. And I just keep it there. And then if I have a really hard roll and I can't like pass, then I pull
00:48:13.460 it out. Then I go for it. Right. But, but it's, it's something I just feel really, really confident
00:48:19.400 around. Um, and you get that way by just laser focused in that given position. So find a guard
00:48:27.080 and then work through your scenarios. Like, okay, I got a 93 guard. What's my options from here.
00:48:32.920 Okay. I loop choke. I got a Kimura, right? I can go for a knee bar. I can back, take under hook,
00:48:39.520 right? Work through all the different scenarios and just play off of them and keep focus on them.
00:48:44.600 The other thing I'd focus on is like, what's your passing game, right? What pass do you have to pass
00:48:49.120 the guard and, and focus on that? One of the stories, um, that I like to share sometimes,
00:48:56.400 uh, I was training in New York, um, underneath Vitor Shaolin. I love Shaolin. I love training.
00:49:03.740 One of the best coaches I've ever had. And I was training with Shaolin and, and Shaolin has a,
00:49:09.500 a very detailed approach for breaking the guard and passing. And he would teach it. And he,
00:49:18.220 and, and, and I never did it. And I want to do it because I'd get swept. I'd go break the guard and
00:49:25.420 I'd get swept. And so I stopped, I stopped breaking the guard that way and passing that way. And then
00:49:30.220 he eventually is like, why aren't you passing the guard that way? And I was like, well, because I
00:49:34.460 keep getting swept. And he's like, and you'll continue to get swept until you do it and learn
00:49:39.180 how not to get swept. That's the only way you're going to learn not to get swept is by going for it.
00:49:44.240 So figure out what those moves are. And sometimes you kind of got to force it, right? It's not a
00:49:48.980 match. So sometimes we have a tendency to show up in a gym, especially white belts. Sorry, Jake and
00:49:54.160 all of the other white belts listening. We have a tendency to show up at a gym and it's like,
00:49:57.640 this is a match, right? This is a fight. I got to win. Well, this is also a training time for you to
00:50:03.260 figure out how that move works. And sometimes that means that you're going to be overly committed to a
00:50:08.760 move and you're going to get swept or you're going to get submitted or it's not going to work,
00:50:12.780 but you're not going to learn how to make it work. If you abandon it, abandon it all the time
00:50:18.600 and like play it safe. So figure out those moves, laser focus in, find a drilling partner, show up
00:50:25.900 with intent. Hopefully that works. All right. And all you guys that aren't training, it's time to
00:50:32.860 start training because you should, it's good for you. Brennan, uh, lamp lamp, lamp rich. Sorry,
00:50:40.440 Brennan. I'm 20 and just got engaged and graduated EMT class. Uh, by the way, I just graduated from EMT
00:50:48.540 class as well. Uh, this summer I'll be getting my first full-time job and we'll be continuing on to
00:50:54.360 paramedic this fall. At times I find myself a little overwhelmed with all the upcoming changes
00:50:59.520 and additional responsibilities that would be added to my life in the next year. How do I combat feelings
00:51:05.700 of being overwhelmed? And how do I tackle these added responsibilities with composure? So first off
00:51:11.780 mad props for, um, getting on top of it, man, and getting on the path and like taking on responsibility,
00:51:20.580 finding that job, finding some purpose in what you're doing, like all great things, have fun doing it.
00:51:28.960 Like honestly have fun doing it. And a lot of that comes back to perspective. Um, I'm going to use my
00:51:40.980 son as an example and my apologies for you guys watching on YouTube, because I'm going to look
00:51:45.900 up a quote why I say this. Um, cause I think this, this quote is so good. Hold on. I probably shouldn't
00:51:53.080 be doing this. Why I'm trying to talk here. Hold on. Uh, all right. Maybe I'm not, cause you're going to
00:52:04.900 have lots of dead space. This is the problem with going solo. All right. Um, change your perspective.
00:52:11.480 Oh yeah. I was going to use my son as an example. Uh, my oldest son, um, uh, has Usher syndrome
00:52:20.780 and has, I believe at this point, like 5% degree of vision and he's 21.
00:52:34.120 If he woke up tomorrow and hall had all his vision back, regardless of responsibilities in life,
00:52:39.720 he could have the most stressful life. And if he woke up in the morning and had his vision back,
00:52:43.980 do you think that would be the best day of his life? Totally would be. Why perspective? I wake up
00:52:52.600 every morning and I can see fine, but am I ecstatic? Am I so happy to have my limbs? I mean, my son almost
00:53:01.280 thought he cut off his arm with a chainsaw two weeks ago. Do you think he's grateful that he has his hand
00:53:07.040 perspective guys? So Brendan, it's awesome. Get after it, man. Like what you're doing is super cool.
00:53:15.460 I don't want to downplay it, but enjoy the ride and be gratitude, be grateful. And one of the ways
00:53:23.800 that we can be grateful, whether it's with a gratitude journal, one thing I used to do back in
00:53:27.680 the day, I haven't done it for a while. Probably I should, um, is I would just write every day.
00:53:32.340 I'd write three things that I'm grateful for and I'd have to explain them. And if I didn't feel
00:53:37.020 grateful for something, I wasn't done. I had to come up with something. So life is great and it's
00:53:45.540 about the ride. And I did find that quote. This is by Gordon B Hinckley. Anyone who imagines that bliss
00:53:52.400 is normal is going to waste a lot of time running around shouting that he's been robbed. Most putts
00:53:58.300 don't drop. Most beef is tough. Most children grow up to be just people. Most successful marriages
00:54:05.360 require a high degree of mutual tolerant toleration. Most jobs are more often dull than otherwise.
00:54:11.740 Life is like an old time rail journey, delays, sidetracks, smoke, dust, cinders, and jolts
00:54:19.740 interspersed with only occasional, occasionally by beautiful vistas and thrilling bursts of speed.
00:54:27.300 The trick is to thank the Lord for letting you have the ride.
00:54:32.140 So enjoy the ride, man. Life is good. Even though sometimes it doesn't seem that way.
00:54:38.140 Yehuda Samuel tips for newly married couples. So I'll just share like what I, what I, what advice
00:54:52.380 I wish I had. Uh, and a lot of it had to come, come from the fact that I didn't see my parents argue.
00:54:59.400 Um, and so I didn't know what a good argument looked like. I didn't know what a fight looked
00:55:07.220 like. Like I just, it was oblivious to me. And, and I was so set on this idea that I even believed
00:55:18.020 in the one. And I thought difficulty meant something was wrong. And I remember, you know, I wasn't married
00:55:31.860 long, um, before our first fight. And I remember thinking I married the wrong person. Like I made a
00:55:40.400 mistake. You know how horrible that is, by the way, to think that I shouldn't have married this person.
00:55:46.700 Seriously. I regret it. I shouldn't have like, that's just toxic thought process. Right.
00:55:53.800 But that was all from the perspective that it shouldn't be this way to this expectation of
00:56:00.200 like how marriage should be and how she should be. And when she's not that way, then it's like
00:56:06.880 something's wrong here. So I would really try. I would recommend for newly married couples, let go
00:56:15.600 of the idea that it's going to be easy. And when it's not, something's wrong, it's going to be
00:56:24.020 hard. Now I'm not saying like go home and make the shit hard or harder than it should be. Trust me,
00:56:30.720 it's going to be hard enough on its own, but don't, don't give up because it's hard.
00:56:35.640 Give me an example in life where growth was made available because it was easy.
00:56:43.960 It's going to be hard. So buckle up and deal with it and stay committed to what you're doing.
00:56:49.480 So it's going to be hard. Now, a couple of the things that come to mind,
00:56:53.680 accept her for who she is period without constraints. Why do you love her?
00:57:07.500 Do you love her because of this? Do you love her because of that? Do you love her because of this?
00:57:10.880 Like we can all have even reasons, right? Oh, I have all these reasons of why I love her.
00:57:16.180 What happens when one of those quote unquote things go away?
00:57:19.420 Like you're what? You're not going to love her anymore. I like this and it may be a little
00:57:27.700 off the beaten path here. I like this idea that I choose to love someone because I choose to
00:57:36.120 the way they are, their shortcomings as well as their strengths. It's a choice. So make the conscious
00:57:46.560 choice. That's up to you to choose. Um, try not to make them wrong. And I had one other thought
00:57:55.680 that came to mind and probably just communication, just focus on communication. And this is, you know,
00:58:06.240 if my wife was listening, she'd be like, Oh, my dear Lord, he's recommended someone around
00:58:10.460 communication. I am horrible at it. I really struggle with creating all types of meaning.
00:58:16.900 I don't want to get iron. You know, I don't want to get fired up and upset at her.
00:58:21.580 And so I bottle things up. I don't thoroughly communicate. I mean, it's, I'm horrible. So
00:58:28.040 you know what, let's just skip this question. I shouldn't be answering it, but, but, but I do think
00:58:34.100 if I got the guidance and direction that, Hey, you know what, Kip, this is going to be hard
00:58:37.620 and that's okay. And don't make it wrong. Um, that was probably the most profound thing that
00:58:43.340 would have really helped me, um, in the early days when I, when I first got married. So hopefully
00:58:49.960 that, that accounts for something. All right. Last question. I'm normally reading this because
00:58:55.580 Marcus thinks he's funny. He says, Kip, how is it that with your skillset abilities, great hair
00:59:00.940 and looks that Ryan Mickler has been able to keep you out of the lamp limelight. You're amazing.
00:59:06.460 Thank you, Marcus. I really appreciate that. And if I'm so amazing, why do you always try
00:59:12.100 to hurt me when we're training? So whatever, I don't trust you. Um, but I am possibly better
00:59:18.920 looking than Mr. Mickler. I don't know about the hair though. You might have better me.
00:59:23.780 All right, let's wrap up. I think we, uh, we got a solid, roughly a solid hour in. So a couple
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