Order of Man - RAY "CASH" CARE ｜ How to Become a Savage Servant

00:00:00.000 Guys, most of what we see and hear about on the socials regarding being a man is being a savage, a lion, a killer, etc.

00:00:07.260 And while I don't dismiss the importance of bodying those traits and characteristics,

00:00:11.860 equally important is how we lead with value and ultimately serve other people.

00:00:16.140 My guest today, former Navy SEAL and CIA operative Ray Cash Care and I talk about how to embody both the savage and also the servant.

00:00:25.380 We cover overcoming past pain and trauma, outward explosions versus inward implosions,

00:00:32.760 the difference between problem makers and problem solvers, getting past self-sabotage and so much more.

00:00:39.660 You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest.

00:00:42.600 Embrace your fears and boldly chart your own path.

00:00:45.540 When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time.

00:00:48.880 Every time you are not easily deterred, defeated, rugged, resilient, strong.

00:00:54.500 This is your life. This is who you are.

00:00:57.500 This is who you will become at the end of the day.

00:01:00.420 And after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man.

00:01:04.600 Gentlemen, what is going on today? My name is Ryan Michler.

00:01:07.440 I'm the host and the founder of the Order of Man podcast and movement.

00:01:10.680 Welcome here today.

00:01:12.280 I've got a very powerful conversation lined up with my good friend Ray Cash Care.

00:01:17.580 Excuse me. I'm a little down and out.

00:01:19.980 I just had surgery last week, so I'm recovering from that.

00:01:23.560 But I want to make sure I get you a podcast and get this into your earbuds because it's important.

00:01:29.600 These are the conversations that we need to continue to have if we want to step up as husbands and fathers and business owners,

00:01:36.600 employees, coaches, mentors, community members, community leaders.

00:01:40.580 That's what this podcast is all about.

00:01:42.780 Giving you conversations, extracting knowledge from my guests like Ray and Tim Tebow and Dave Ramsey and Dan Crenshaw and Ben Shapiro and Jocko and everybody else that we've had on the podcast.

00:01:56.300 Terry Crews, Matthew McConaughey.

00:01:57.960 Hey, and then, of course, Ray Cash Care today.

00:02:01.280 So it's my goal to bring these conversations to you.

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00:02:43.640 All right, guys, let me introduce you to my guest.

00:02:46.200 He is a good friend.

00:02:47.340 I've known him for years.

00:02:48.200 He's a former Navy SEAL, a CIA contractor.

00:02:51.480 His name is Ray Cash Care.

00:02:53.300 We met, like I said, years ago through a mutual connection, Bedros Koulian, who's been on the podcast.

00:02:58.560 And I know a lot of you guys follow.

00:03:00.180 And Ray and I immediately hit it off, probably because we're so alike in many ways.

00:03:04.400 We see things very similarly, but also very different in our approach to solving the problems that we both agree on with what we see in society.

00:03:12.680 Ray tells it like he sees it.

00:03:14.660 He pulls no punches and in a world of apologists and softies and those who are, well, love to love to be victims and love to see everything wrong.

00:03:25.900 I've always appreciated his boldness and candor.

00:03:28.420 And the world needs more men who care deeply about the success of other men and young men like Ray does.

00:03:34.360 He's made it his life's mission to pour into others and teach them what he knows about being a success as one of the lead instructors for both the modern day night project and also the Squire program.

00:03:46.440 Gentlemen, enjoy this conversation.

00:03:48.100 Mr. Ray Cash Care, what's up, brother?

00:03:51.960 It's great to see you.

00:03:52.680 And finally, after years and years in the making, have you on the podcast, man.

00:03:57.800 It's great to see you.

00:03:59.220 It's an honor to be here.

00:04:00.340 I think those few years have been some screening time, sir, making sure I'm calming myself down.

00:04:05.680 But I'm pumped.

00:04:06.360 You know what?

00:04:06.700 We talked.

00:04:07.280 I am so excited.

00:04:08.240 I've been waiting for this for a long time.

00:04:10.240 No, it wasn't screening.

00:04:12.160 I knew I knew when I met you that we resonated.

00:04:15.920 We clicked.

00:04:17.400 I will say you're a lot more intense than I am.

00:04:20.520 But all of it comes from a good place.

00:04:22.860 And what I've seen you do with the men that you serve, what I've seen you do with my son and the way he looks up to you and you guys have a personal relationship.

00:04:31.320 It wasn't screening at all.

00:04:32.760 It was just timing.

00:04:33.620 That's all it was.

00:04:34.720 Thank you, sir.

00:04:35.420 Well, I'm honored.

00:04:35.980 I'm honored to be here.

00:04:36.840 You know, obviously, I'm a huge fan of you.

00:04:38.460 I love you and your family.

00:04:40.400 And I'm ready.

00:04:41.100 I'm pumped.

00:04:41.620 Let's dive in.

00:04:42.760 Yeah, man.

00:04:43.240 So tell me a little bit about not me.

00:04:45.620 I know what you do.

00:04:46.220 But tell the guys a little bit about what you do.

00:04:48.640 Obviously, you're a big proponent of building men, building young men.

00:04:52.660 We're very much aligned in that mission.

00:04:54.920 And honestly, if you look around and just culture today, it's clear to me, I think you would agree.

00:05:00.900 If not, let me know that we are void of strong, tough, rugged, individual men that are going to lead us to a place we need to be in society and culture.

00:05:14.980 Yeah, I think in a nutshell.

00:05:17.120 If you were to take 100,000 foot view and then we can get deeper into it is I'm just trying to create a society of stronger and stronger doesn't just mean this.

00:05:28.220 Right.

00:05:28.340 You and I have had this conversation.

00:05:29.440 It's physically, mentally, emotionally stronger men.

00:05:33.640 Now, the question I get all the time is, why don't you train women? 0.93

00:05:37.760 And I'll get into this.

00:05:38.880 I've been married.

00:05:39.720 You know, it's funny.

00:05:40.840 Both of us have our wives have the same exact name.

00:05:44.320 And I've been married next month will be 17 years.

00:05:48.500 I still don't know a lot about women. 1.00

00:05:51.440 You know, I as a man, I mean, I but that's just the nature of the beast, me.

00:05:56.500 But what I do know about is men.

00:05:58.600 I do know about being a young man.

00:06:01.260 So what I want to do and what I do is I focus on the hardships that I've had.

00:06:06.820 And I've been blessed these last few years.

00:06:08.940 I've been becoming successful.

00:06:11.060 And again, I don't mean from a monetary standpoint.

00:06:13.760 I just mean from getting my message out there.

00:06:15.880 Right.

00:06:16.020 I've got work with you and a lot of the people that I've really looked up to in the community that are doing the same type of work.

00:06:23.180 And what we're trying to do is just we're trying to forge men.

00:06:26.480 Right.

00:06:26.720 Because men, we've had this conversation.

00:06:29.520 Boys are savage servants, the double edged sword. 0.81

00:06:33.360 And what we're trying to do for these young men is we're forging and molding that blade.

00:06:38.940 For these young men.

00:06:39.980 Now, for the older men, what are we doing?

00:06:41.600 Because people go, what if I'm older?

00:06:43.820 Through time.

00:06:45.680 Right.

00:06:46.760 Pressure.

00:06:47.680 Chaos.

00:06:48.280 Turmoil.

00:06:49.800 Men.

00:06:51.300 They break.

00:06:52.180 We are men can be fragile, too.

00:06:54.200 Right.

00:06:54.360 I'm tough.

00:06:54.900 I look tough, but I'm fragile.

00:06:56.180 I'm just like anything else.

00:06:57.220 And what really infuriates me, Ryan, is especially with the project.

00:07:01.160 That's another course we'll talk about.

00:07:02.860 But all men, we're pretty much the men that we deal with are on the same frequency and the same things have happened to them.

00:07:11.040 And what I tell these men is there's no such thing as a midlife crisis.

00:07:15.620 You know, you don't go out and buy a car or leave your family or just do things that are not what, you know, you did when you, like I said, you signed on the dotted line with with that beautiful queen of yours.

00:07:28.260 When you took a knee, it's that sword has taken so much damage that it'll still destroy and tear, but it's not razor sharp.

00:07:36.520 And what I'm doing with Bedros and everyone else and you, because we do do some things for young men and, you know, we did the uncaged event that, you know, I love that is we are giving these men the tools, the accessibility, the network to resharpen that blade and create growth.

00:07:54.920 The physical, mental, emotional, social, spiritual, yes, and financial growth that men need to deal with.

00:08:01.780 How do we do that?

00:08:03.080 That's the question, because we deal and expose past and current pain.

00:08:09.920 There are six forms of growth, seven forms of pain.

00:08:14.120 Now, the pain, physical, mental, emotional, social, spiritual, and financial.

00:08:19.160 Wow, that sounds just like the growths, but men, there could also be sexual pain.

00:08:23.660 Look it up, one out of every four men in America have been abused in some sexual form.

00:08:31.820 It doesn't have to be, you know, the whole thing, but touched inappropriately, spoken inappropriately to, been propositioned by another.

00:08:41.260 There are things that happen, but what do men do?

00:08:44.320 You and I know this, men, we build up these walls around us, these mental and emotional walls. 0.99

00:08:50.260 And when men like, you know, pardon my language, lose their shit, right? 0.99

00:08:55.020 They just like, you know, they, they explode. 0.99

00:08:57.040 They're really not exploding.

00:08:58.320 They're really imploding.

00:08:59.600 The explosion is happening from the inside.

00:09:01.960 We're a pressure cooker, right?

00:09:03.360 You can only, you can only put so much in that pot before it's going to over, overfill or explode.

00:09:09.600 And what I'm doing and what Bedros, and I know what you're doing and all these other, Matt and all these other amazing human beings that are doing things with men and young warriors is, number one, we're telling them, listen, if you've had a horrible and traumatic past, I don't blame you, right?

00:09:27.940 You're not alone.

00:09:29.260 I don't blame you.

00:09:30.500 But what I've told every single person I've met is I blame you if you don't take action now, right?

00:09:36.040 Because most people, there's two types of people.

00:09:38.560 I know we say problem makers and problem solvers, but you've got these, these men that are wishing and wanting that it never happened instead of making and taking action on it, you know, accept it, right?

00:09:50.180 That's what I tell people, you know, you need to, and if you've had trauma, real trauma that can cause PTSD, you know, as well as I do, does not have to happen on the battlefield.

00:10:01.400 There are three battlefields of life, Ryan, the internal, which is your battlefield, the business field and the home field.

00:10:08.800 And what we're telling people is to stop wishing and wanting and start making and taking actions, right?

00:10:15.000 Accept it, name, claim and tame that animal, whatever it is you've done.

00:10:19.140 Accept it, acknowledge it, accept it, and then face it, right?

00:10:23.800 So, that's what we're doing in a nutshell without me throwing all my F-bombs around because there is more than just F-bombs with, right?

00:10:32.160 And like you said before, I think people misunderstand my message.

00:10:37.360 I'm not aggressive.

00:10:38.360 I'm passionate because every day that I get up, I'm grateful and I want to make a difference.

00:10:44.580 One human at a time, you know.

00:10:45.760 You know, I'm very passionate about this.

00:10:48.280 Working with the young men is my passion.

00:10:50.040 I have a very special bond with your son who is just what I think.

00:10:56.880 If you look at the ideal all-American boy, right? 0.64

00:11:00.560 Young man, pardon my language, boy.

00:11:02.600 You shouldn't be calling him boy.

00:11:03.520 He's a man.

00:11:04.240 But he's respectful.

00:11:06.000 He's in shape.

00:11:06.780 The transition video that he put up from where he went from boyhood chunky to lean and mean, right?

00:11:13.640 I mean, it takes time.

00:11:15.560 He's learning right now.

00:11:16.980 The boy, you know, he has a job.

00:11:19.440 He has chores.

00:11:20.380 He's respectful to women.

00:11:21.860 He works out.

00:11:23.000 He's physical.

00:11:24.700 And what's going to happen from that is hopefully he's going to surround himself with young men

00:11:31.320 and he is going to be that contagious element that these men want to draw from, right?

00:11:37.860 That's why I hang around with people like you and Matt B and Tim Kennedy.

00:11:41.980 I'm drawn to people like you, you know, the podcast and get it, you know, the Iron Council and all this because men are seeking this out.

00:11:51.340 They just don't know where to find it.

00:11:53.560 And it's our job as men to provide that vessel, that portal, that, you know, that rite of passage to these men.

00:12:02.000 And that's what I'm going to keep doing, even with the videos that go up and people are like, you know, because, man, I'll tell you, the haters are the haters are out.

00:12:10.220 They're out.

00:12:11.040 Oh, for sure.

00:12:11.900 The videos are just a small sampling, just a glimpse.

00:12:16.360 It isn't the whole you at all because we've had personal conversations and family conversations and things like this.

00:12:24.580 But I am really glad that you talk about because one of the words you used is trauma.

00:12:29.760 And I don't you remember in Mexico, we were all there.

00:12:33.040 I don't like that word.

00:12:34.560 And I'll tell you why I don't like the word.

00:12:36.860 I get the concept.

00:12:37.880 I really do.

00:12:38.580 And Bedros shared some thoughts with me very passionately, and I was gracious to hear that.

00:12:44.240 I just don't like that word.

00:12:45.600 And I'll tell you why.

00:12:46.380 It's because I hear so many guys use it, and then they use it as an excuse to what you said, implode.

00:12:54.360 And it's like, well, I dealt with trauma. 0.95

00:12:56.000 Well, everybody's dealt with bullshit in the past, like everybody, to varying degrees, in different ways, but everybody's dealt with it.

00:13:04.220 And the frustrating thing that I see, and this isn't an indictment on you or Bedros or anybody else because you're not doing this.

00:13:09.940 But I see so many organizations out there who are like, tell me about your trauma.

00:13:15.720 Tell me about your PTSD.

00:13:17.500 Tell me about all the things that go wrong.

00:13:19.660 And then they just throw themselves pity parties.

00:13:22.360 And that's where I get frustrated and hung up. 1.00

00:13:24.620 It's like, okay, yeah, all of us have dealt with bullshit. 0.99

00:13:27.400 Now, what do we do about it?

00:13:29.460 And that's one of the things that I really respect about you and Bea and the entire team with what you guys are doing is, yeah, let's talk about it.

00:13:36.740 But then let's actually come up with a plan to move forward past it and become better in spite of it.

00:13:43.320 Yeah, I agree.

00:13:44.740 Maybe a better word for that is when men show up, you know, I want to know what is, like, I need to know, like, you're never going to know unless you grow.

00:13:52.680 That's something I always say in all my courses to the young men.

00:13:54.960 And so, you know, as well as I do, like, let's use the Squire program.

00:13:59.640 We have, you know, we have stronger father-son combos like you and Breckin that come.

00:14:04.320 But then you noticed as well as I did, there were some fathers and sons that didn't have that connection.

00:14:09.300 So what I need to do, right, it's almost like I'm a doctor, is I want to dissect the problem.

00:14:14.840 Where is the disconnect?

00:14:16.500 Well, there was a divorce.

00:14:18.140 Well, there was this.

00:14:19.020 Well, there was that.

00:14:19.780 And this is what I tell these young men, you know, like, I come from a divorced family.

00:14:23.940 You're not the only one, bro.

00:14:25.420 You're not the only one.

00:14:27.280 And there are two avenues, right?

00:14:29.180 That's why I say you can keep wishing and wanting that your parents get back together.

00:14:32.240 You can make and take action.

00:14:33.800 You know, you can, depending on where you're living or when you're spending time with your mom, you need to be the man of the house.

00:14:40.400 Because that's funny.

00:14:41.400 The first thing I always say in the Squire program is, like, you know, if I was using Breckin, right?

00:14:46.200 And I know, if you're not home, is Breckin the man of the house?

00:14:50.740 Yes or no?

00:14:51.600 Right, yes.

00:14:52.340 He is.

00:14:52.900 I know, because I know who his younger brothers are.

00:14:55.860 And what these young men need to know is they need to know their role in the family, right?

00:15:00.520 They need to know your role, mom's role, and the younger siblings.

00:15:04.120 And then when they have an understanding of that, and case in point, I want these young men to know your role, too, Case.

00:15:10.600 This is one of the first things I say every time, right?

00:15:13.280 If you live, if you have a family that is still together, and I break into your house, Ron, you have a beautiful home.

00:15:19.620 I'm not in a big house.

00:15:20.740 I love it.

00:15:21.160 If I break into your house, where are your wife and children?

00:15:25.040 In front of you, beside you, or behind you?

00:15:27.440 Normally, they're behind you, correct?

00:15:29.060 Behind me.

00:15:29.660 Absolutely.

00:15:29.820 And then after you, it's going to be Breckin.

00:15:32.060 And then after that, it's, you know, and I'm not going to say all the names of your children, but there needs to be a pecking order in everything that happens.

00:15:40.540 And what I need to do is I need to understand what has happened so that we can fix it, because I've been there and done that.

00:15:46.940 I've been in a broken family.

00:15:48.080 I've had a lot of horrible things happen to me.

00:15:51.900 I've been locked up.

00:15:53.760 I've been this.

00:15:54.660 I've done drugs, and I take full acceptance of it.

00:15:57.200 But I also took accountability and said no more, because a lot, like you said, a lot of men, boys, they use it as a crutch and as an excuse.

00:16:07.800 Like, I don't want pity from you.

00:16:09.620 I want to know what happened. 0.99

00:16:10.640 And then tell me, you little bastard, what are you going to do to fix it? 0.99

00:16:14.340 Because doing nothing creates nothing, right? 1.00

00:16:18.040 Doing, do something.

00:16:19.800 Do something is better than nothing, right?

00:16:22.760 And that's what we try to do.

00:16:24.060 We try to be an outlet for these young men.

00:16:26.420 That's why we created that Facebook group page where the young men can get on there and talk, you know?

00:16:31.440 And I think the world needs more of that.

00:16:33.960 I'm with you, man.

00:16:34.880 I don't want to hear a sob story.

00:16:36.200 Like, somebody tells me, oh, this, this, this, this, and this.

00:16:39.260 I'm like, okay, okay.

00:16:41.080 Do you think you're the only young man this has happened to in America?

00:16:44.160 Well, no, stop, stop the pity party and let's figure out how we can create a solution to make you better.

00:16:53.600 Because that's all I want to do.

00:16:54.520 I want to make young men better.

00:16:56.100 And I, and I will continue it.

00:16:57.340 I, but I love your outlook on this, you know, like, I don't want to hear your pity party, you know?

00:17:01.880 Because there, like I said, there's always someone somewhere that it's, that has it worse than you.

00:17:06.860 So no matter what you have, you have to be grateful, I think.

00:17:09.780 Well, and I, and I, I agree with that.

00:17:12.220 And I try not to get into comparisons.

00:17:14.020 Like, how am I going to compare your life experiences to mine?

00:17:17.060 Yes.

00:17:18.100 Yeah.

00:17:19.660 Subjectively, you've had it harder.

00:17:21.480 I've had it harder.

00:17:22.380 This was harder for you.

00:17:23.300 And that was harder for me.

00:17:24.280 And this, I don't know, whatever.

00:17:25.560 And we all have different personalities.

00:17:27.120 And so I'm not here to judge whether or not it was harder for you than it was for me or vice versa.

00:17:33.240 All I know is that we're all dealt challenges.

00:17:36.280 We're all capable of overcoming them.

00:17:38.340 And I just don't want the conversation to stop at, yeah, all this bad stuff happened to me.

00:17:43.900 It's like, okay, well, you know, that's comma.

00:17:46.400 And so what are you going to do about it?

00:17:48.380 But you, you mentioned something earlier.

00:17:50.180 You talked about the hate and, you know, you have a, a, a very bold personality.

00:17:58.520 We'll say it that way.

00:18:00.160 Thank you.

00:18:00.700 Thank you for being so kind.

00:18:02.200 And, and I like it.

00:18:04.820 I appreciate it.

00:18:05.720 I wish more people were like that because I think generally speaking, the default is passivity.

00:18:11.460 That's not you.

00:18:13.300 Where do you think the hate comes from?

00:18:16.280 And how do you deal with, with the hate that, that you experienced, that you see, that, that you have to deal with on a daily basis?

00:18:24.940 Well, I think the hate comes from the unknown because a lot of the haters that like, let's, let's use my latest example.

00:18:32.960 I did a video of me smoking a cigar.

00:18:36.620 Well, I didn't even post it.

00:18:37.840 Aaron, you know, instructor Aaron posted a video of me on the one wheel talking to these young men crawling on a railroad track for the back.

00:18:46.400 Right.

00:18:46.580 So let's, let's break down that scenario.

00:18:49.020 Okay.

00:18:49.300 Now I know a lot of people aren't going to understand this because they're, they're not narrow and deep.

00:18:54.180 They're shallow and wide.

00:18:55.700 Does that make sense with their, with their thought process?

00:18:59.200 We make these men crawl through these evolutions because it's going to scratch and tear them up.

00:19:05.480 It is, but 99.9% of those wounds will heal.

00:19:10.460 It's that little 0.1%, that one niche that you'll have there.

00:19:14.580 I've got a few of me that I'll look at and go, you know what?

00:19:16.620 I overcame that.

00:19:17.720 I remember exactly where I was at that moment.

00:19:19.660 What I was thinking about my wife and my family when I was doing this and that creates, that's breaking the barriers, the mental and emotional barriers.

00:19:28.780 We did that with Andy Foe.

00:19:30.220 There's this, I call it the Mona Lisa of the project.

00:19:32.980 We took this picture of me going over and leaning and saying something to Andy Foe, you know, an amazing tattoo artist about his daughter.

00:19:40.900 He was ready.

00:19:41.720 It looked like he was ready to throw in the towel.

00:19:43.480 And I just went over and whispered something to him.

00:19:46.520 And all of a sudden, he went faster and faster and faster and faster and faster.

00:19:51.140 Not only did he graduate the course, he graduated number one.

00:19:53.600 Now, let's talk about the one wheel.

00:19:56.200 I had a fractured foot.

00:19:58.120 I was told not to even come to the class.

00:20:01.300 Bedros said, stay home, Ray.

00:20:02.820 We can do this.

00:20:03.620 And I said, no, no, Bedros. 1.00

00:20:05.780 You don't tell Bedros often.

00:20:07.320 No, too often.

00:20:08.240 I said, listen, I'll use an electric bike.

00:20:10.480 I'll use something, but I have to be there with these men for this transformation because I'm the one that's been helping about, you know, Steve and I, you know, onboard these men.

00:20:19.220 I owe it to them.

00:20:20.800 So I'm riding the one wheel because I literally couldn't put all the weight on my foot.

00:20:25.980 But no one knows that.

00:20:28.500 And then people talk about the cigar.

00:20:31.260 Why do you smoke a cigar?

00:20:32.640 Who are you supposed to be?

00:20:34.140 You know, I'm not a big drinker.

00:20:36.920 I'm not a big drinker.

00:20:37.940 That was something I used to do in my life that I've overcome.

00:20:41.020 I smoke a cigar for the fallen every time I do a course.

00:20:46.080 That's why I do that.

00:20:46.960 But I'm not going to sit here and explain myself.

00:20:49.200 But what do the haters see?

00:20:51.380 They see, look at this short, yoked, steroid, tattooed guy up that's riding around on a one wheel yelling at people.

00:20:58.800 Hey, here's a newsflash.

00:20:59.860 That's not even my evolution.

00:21:01.020 That's Instructor Steve's evolution.

00:21:03.180 But what we do is we just give them enough.

00:21:05.480 What do I do for the hate?

00:21:07.340 This is here's the best one.

00:21:08.640 I used to get so mad and I'd write. 0.97

00:21:11.040 I would I would let the inner bitch me. 1.00

00:21:13.860 The insecurities take over. 0.99

00:21:15.460 I would I would I would sit here and justify what I'm doing.

00:21:21.160 And then I would put something nasty at the end of it.

00:21:23.720 You know what I put now?

00:21:25.040 Man, I love you, bro.

00:21:26.620 Thank you for your support.

00:21:28.000 Boom.

00:21:28.620 I had a guy that started ripping me apart the other day.

00:21:30.700 He's some ranger guy.

00:21:32.600 I don't know who he is, but he's been he has some meanies.

00:21:34.800 He's always on me.

00:21:35.560 He's got all these different accounts.

00:21:37.560 And I was like, man, I think this is the ranger guy again.

00:21:39.920 Man, I love you.

00:21:41.040 You rangers made the best ranger panties in the world.

00:21:43.420 Thank you. 0.78

00:21:43.800 Because of you, I can showcase my legs off.

00:21:46.620 And the guy just wrote, LOL, and he went away.

00:21:49.400 Haters are going to hate.

00:21:51.260 Hate if you're doing something right.

00:21:53.520 I mean, your message is amazing.

00:21:55.680 You're going to sit here and look at me and tell me you don't have haters.

00:21:58.360 Oh, no, I do.

00:21:59.380 Yeah, of course you do.

00:22:01.440 You know, and the thing is, is what I what I say to people is when they're reaching out

00:22:06.180 like that, if you really think about it, Ryan, it's a cry for help.

00:22:10.000 To take the time to watch a video that's a minute long and then to give me your opinion

00:22:17.240 to take, you know, that takes time.

00:22:19.480 30, 40 seconds out of your life is literally.

00:22:22.700 A subconscious cry for help.

00:22:25.900 And I see that.

00:22:26.620 That's what I see now.

00:22:27.920 Before, I thought it was just this.

00:22:29.800 But that tells me that there is something in their life that they're not happy with.

00:22:33.980 And on a different level, they wish that was them crawling.

00:22:37.780 And when I whenever I explain myself now, I get two things. 0.98

00:22:42.500 Holy crap. 0.88

00:22:43.080 I didn't know that. 0.55

00:22:43.800 Thank you so much.

00:22:44.500 Or you're just making excuses.

00:22:46.160 I'm not making excuses.

00:22:48.040 Making excuses would have been not to show up for that class.

00:22:51.720 My foot hurt the whole time.

00:22:53.820 And I'm going to continue to do what I do.

00:22:55.840 And I love the haters.

00:22:57.000 I love them.

00:22:57.920 You know, I had this conversation with Tim Kennedy.

00:23:00.400 Tim Kennedy's like, I'm the most hated guy on social media.

00:23:05.680 I'm like, but you're Tim Kennedy.

00:23:07.240 You're doing all these amazing things.

00:23:08.640 Even Matt, they're like, we get it all the time.

00:23:12.120 People will hate you because of one or two reasons.

00:23:16.080 Number one, they wish they would have been doing what you're doing.

00:23:20.920 Or two, at that deeper level, they hate something about themselves or what's happened to them.

00:23:27.600 And they probably wish on a whole different level, right?

00:23:30.460 A whole different level.

00:23:31.640 Maybe even that this, they could have been, this would have been offered to them and they could have been fixed.

00:23:38.220 And this is what I tell all these haters, you know, mouth and off, you know, being a knuckle dragger, just, you know, yelling. 1.00

00:23:45.880 And I get what WTF and this is so stupid. 1.00

00:23:49.640 And you're basing this off of a one minute video, but you don't know the backstory. 1.00

00:23:56.320 You know, they always say, don't judge a book by its cover.

00:23:58.320 But that's the problem.

00:23:59.620 Social media has turned into this.

00:24:02.100 I'm awesome.

00:24:05.840 And these are the people that have, you know, like 12 followers and they don't have 12 followers because they don't have a blue check.

00:24:11.900 They have 12 followers because that's how they're living their life.

00:24:14.540 They don't have a message that they're putting out.

00:24:17.540 They're just bitching and whining about things they don't have. 1.00

00:24:21.460 So here's my message to the haters.

00:24:24.120 And I'll make this very clear.

00:24:25.420 I love you guys.

00:24:26.740 I love you.

00:24:27.840 I love you and keep it up, man, because you guys are fueling my fire and I will never stop doing this.

00:24:39.360 Of course, Trish is writing me right now asking how the podcast is going.

00:24:44.260 Sorry.

00:24:45.420 That's a good woman right there. 1.00

00:24:47.200 Yes.

00:24:48.000 Yeah.

00:24:48.820 I'll offer another another reason there would be quote unquote haters is they just don't see it the same way that you or I might see it.

00:24:57.840 And they don't know how to express it in a respectful way.

00:25:00.940 I've seen that a lot.

00:25:02.220 Like I've seen people be borderline hostile towards a thought or an idea or a message that I share.

00:25:11.180 And I can either feed into that or just be more mature about it, which I am trying to do.

00:25:16.780 I'm not perfect at that, but I do try to be mature about it.

00:25:19.680 I just made a post about abortion and my whole goal with it was like, hey, like, don't be emotionally charged in your responses.

00:25:28.060 Just be respectful.

00:25:29.020 Like, it's fine.

00:25:30.020 You know, like people are going to see it different.

00:25:31.480 Just be respectful.

00:25:33.060 And so I was surprised.

00:25:34.920 It's not hard.

00:25:36.020 It's not hard.

00:25:36.420 For me, it is.

00:25:37.360 But it's my personality.

00:25:38.880 I'm loud.

00:25:39.400 And I just want to like.

00:25:40.840 I know, but it's not hard if you. 0.99

00:25:43.960 I mean, look, you've done some what I would say is some hard shit. 0.97

00:25:46.960 And maybe you'd say that isn't hard. 0.99

00:25:48.460 And I would say that is.

00:25:50.980 And look, I'm charged, too.

00:25:53.220 You're a redhead. 1.00

00:25:54.080 I'm a redhead. 0.99

00:25:55.280 Like, come on now.

00:25:56.660 But if we think about it, it's not hard if we just disengage for a minute and come to the table with with a goal, which is, hey, I'm not going to be emotionally charged.

00:26:05.780 I'm going to be respectful.

00:26:06.960 I'm going to elevate myself.

00:26:08.540 And you would be amazed how many people responded actually very respectful in disagreement.

00:26:15.160 I thought it was going to blow up.

00:26:16.240 It did a little bit, but not to the degree I thought it would, because I put myself in a different position.

00:26:22.440 And if we say it's hard, then it's going to be hard because we're going to sabotage it.

00:26:26.800 I don't sit here right now and tell you I am.

00:26:29.940 I'm as I.

00:26:32.160 Fifty years young, I self-sabotage myself all the time.

00:26:35.640 It's because I want I'm so passionate that I want people to see my message to the point where it's like I used to be like forceful with it.

00:26:44.820 But Bedros and you and I have had conversations offline is, you know, I tell you can only save those who want to be saved.

00:26:51.820 Right.

00:26:53.100 And I'm going to save as many as I can.

00:26:55.500 You know, I'm not going to get biblical.

00:26:57.280 You know, obviously, you and I have the same the same religious background.

00:27:00.740 I know you can't get in any of that here.

00:27:02.220 Well, I guess I can on here.

00:27:03.300 But I am like a modern day Noah and I've just got a huge arc and I'm bringing as many people on board as I can.

00:27:12.300 And that's what I want to do.

00:27:13.860 And and what's so great about me is I have unlimited amount of resources to build the arc bigger and bigger and bigger.

00:27:21.080 The difference between Noah and me is his was only so many square footage.

00:27:25.360 He could only take so much me.

00:27:27.220 I'll take whatever wants to come on board, you know, from anywhere on all walks of life.

00:27:34.140 And that's what I think people have a hard time understanding.

00:27:38.100 This is why does this person, this human being, this this what they call the animal want to help so many people?

00:27:45.000 Because no one really helped me when I was young.

00:27:48.120 And I just, you know, we talk about flipping the switch.

00:27:50.980 I've you know, a lot of times when it's flipping the switch, it's let's be an animal.

00:27:54.520 I flip the switch to be the servant.

00:27:56.520 I want to serve others.

00:27:59.440 You know, people are like, you know, I would never pay $15,000 to crawl.

00:28:04.360 You're not paying $15,000 to crawl.

00:28:08.100 You're not paying for 75 hours.

00:28:10.700 You're paying for what happens after you graduate the course.

00:28:14.560 Just like the squire, you don't pay $1,900 to just show up there and do an event with your son.

00:28:21.040 You're paying $1,900 for what you do after you graduate.

00:28:26.580 Are you going to continue with the drills and the lessons we gave you?

00:28:30.540 Are you going to, you know, get up and journal and get up earlier and attack the hill?

00:28:36.380 Are you going to be the man that you that your wife and your children want to be?

00:28:41.560 Are you going to be the man that your son looks up to?

00:28:45.980 That's what you're paying for.

00:28:47.960 You're paying for the accountability because I've called you on a couple of different occasions where, you know, and listen, I'm human.

00:28:55.700 Right.

00:28:56.180 I am not perfect.

00:28:58.100 Right.

00:28:58.360 I screw up all the time.

00:28:59.800 I screw up all the time.

00:29:01.140 And what's so amazing is having this network, right?

00:29:05.320 You know, network is the net worth.

00:29:06.740 I remember Nick just put that out.

00:29:08.080 Wow.

00:29:08.280 That went crazy.

00:29:09.300 I was just with Nick and a lot of those.

00:29:11.140 But I can call people like you.

00:29:12.480 And I know everybody can't, but I can call you, Nick, Tim.

00:29:15.300 And 99% of the time, you guys will pick up and say, what's going on?

00:29:20.320 And I can, I can, I don't know if you want to call it venting or bitching, but I'm expressing my feelings on something.

00:29:26.600 And it's nice just to get calibrated and dialed back in.

00:29:30.980 Look, Ray, I agree with you.

00:29:32.020 Or you've told me a couple of times.

00:29:33.200 No, I don't.

00:29:33.820 I don't.

00:29:34.140 I think you're taking the wrong approach.

00:29:35.900 And I would do this.

00:29:37.220 And now here's what I need to do as a man is if I'm going to reach out for that cry of help and help you, I better be willing to take that criticism.

00:29:46.520 Right.

00:29:46.580 Oh, sure.

00:29:46.960 That's the thing, because that's what men want a lot of times.

00:29:49.500 They want me to call you.

00:29:51.100 Like, they'll call you and say, you know, my wife's not, my wife's not being intimate with me because, you know, the last couple of days I've been drinking, I'll be this. 1.00

00:29:58.980 And someone should say, well, it's because you're, you're an a-hole. 1.00

00:30:01.240 You're an asshole. 1.00

00:30:02.180 You shouldn't be doing that. 1.00

00:30:03.860 Right.

00:30:04.840 Case in point.

00:30:05.640 Here you go.

00:30:06.140 Let me give you this.

00:30:07.580 Talk about reverse engineering.

00:30:08.960 I was recently at an event with Bedros and Wes Watson.

00:30:12.980 And two very young.

00:30:14.640 One was my age.

00:30:15.540 One was young, beautiful women. 1.00

00:30:17.060 Very beautiful women.

00:30:17.900 Blonde.

00:30:18.560 Just like my wife, Trish. 1.00

00:30:20.180 Said, hey, Cash, can you pick us up and hold us like this and take a picture?

00:30:25.200 Now, I was like, sure.

00:30:26.800 Right. 0.99

00:30:26.980 The lady had dressed when I said, hey, I'm going to grab you under your legs, not your buttocks. 1.00

00:30:29.740 Be professional. 0.99

00:30:30.360 Pick you up.

00:30:30.780 Take a picture.

00:30:32.080 Trisha called me the next day.

00:30:34.380 What is this?

00:30:35.600 And I said, oh, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:30:37.440 And I laid down, you know, completely rhyme, man to man, completely harmless.

00:30:41.760 And she said, okay, I understand that.

00:30:43.400 She goes, but would you want a man picking me up like that? 1.00

00:30:47.980 And then all of a sudden I was like, ooh.

00:30:50.340 Yeah.

00:30:50.860 Right.

00:30:51.140 So what do you think I did after that?

00:30:53.080 I didn't pick one more person up because I don't mind if she puts her arm around people, 1.00

00:30:57.240 but I don't want someone physically.

00:30:59.400 I don't want a man physically picking up my woman. 1.00

00:31:01.980 And come to think about it, I don't know the circumstances with the other ladies, 0.99

00:31:07.040 but their husbands may not have appreciated that either.

00:31:09.880 So it was definitely a lesson learned.

00:31:11.900 So my point is, is sometimes as a man, I learn lessons not only from other men, but from my

00:31:18.660 queen, right? 0.93

00:31:20.020 So case in point, that's why I have a picture of my wife right here. 1.00

00:31:24.100 When I do stupid things, I look at that tattoo. 0.97

00:31:26.780 That time I didn't look at it. 0.99

00:31:27.740 I just, I was not, I was shallow and wide when I did that.

00:31:32.280 I wasn't thinking of her feelings.

00:31:34.040 So I apologized because that's what a real man does. 0.96

00:31:37.460 And I said, it'll never happen again.

00:31:39.020 And it won't, I will not be picking people up like that.

00:31:42.780 So that's my point is, is it's, it's, it's always, I'm always learning, right?

00:31:49.000 Just like the arc, right?

00:31:50.380 The arc can get bigger and bigger and bigger.

00:31:52.300 So can my, my spectrum of knowledge.

00:31:55.140 I'm always trying to grow, man, reading and journaling.

00:31:58.680 Journaling has been really huge with me.

00:32:00.760 I'm not huge on meditation.

00:32:03.280 I'm trying to be.

00:32:05.180 You and I have been talking, you know, I know jujitsu and what's been going on with you.

00:32:08.840 And I hope you're recovering well.

00:32:11.420 Right.

00:32:11.660 Did you already have it?

00:32:12.880 Yeah.

00:32:13.160 We'll see.

00:32:14.280 I had, I had it a couple of days ago.

00:32:16.380 So they, they put a, a nerve, I know you've had surgery, so you know all about this, but

00:32:21.060 they put a, like a nerve block through by like right in here.

00:32:24.880 They, they did a, um, like an ultrasound and I saw the, they showed it to me.

00:32:28.980 They, watching the needle go in here and then they just injected that stuff into there.

00:32:33.580 And I haven't felt my arm.

00:32:35.080 It's been numb.

00:32:35.720 I can't even move it.

00:32:36.840 I can move it a little bit today, but for like four days.

00:32:40.060 So they said it the last about five days.

00:32:42.140 So it's, it's, uh, we'll see how it goes from there.

00:32:44.960 Nick, Nick just had a, a mass removed from right underneath his pec.

00:32:50.860 Oh, he did.

00:32:51.640 Yeah.

00:32:51.860 He's like, I feel horrible.

00:32:53.040 I was like, you know what I, and I leaned over at him, you know, cause Nick's been on

00:32:56.040 that amazing fitness journey.

00:32:57.120 I leaned over and I said, man, you're getting fat.

00:32:59.340 And he was like, dude, don't say that to me.

00:33:00.940 I was like, no, he looks amazing.

00:33:02.660 You know?

00:33:03.320 Yeah.

00:33:03.760 Yeah.

00:33:04.000 He looks great.

00:33:06.080 All right, man.

00:33:06.640 I just got to hit the pause button on our conversation very quickly.

00:33:09.340 Uh, look guys, you, you don't need to go at life alone.

00:33:13.100 Like so many men believe that.

00:33:14.600 And it's just, it's not reality.

00:33:17.880 In fact, you shouldn't do that because if you are, I can guarantee that you are leaving

00:33:22.780 growth on the table that could be yours.

00:33:25.280 If only you were able to tap into a few more frameworks and a network of high caliber men.

00:33:30.240 The problem is, is where do you go?

00:33:31.700 Who do you turn to?

00:33:32.700 Some of you, a lot of you probably don't know these types of men or don't have access to

00:33:36.720 these frameworks that I'm talking about, but you can, and you do, it's called the iron

00:33:40.640 council and it's a brotherhood of roughly 1200 men all working together to create objectives

00:33:48.200 and goals and make our visions a reality and become better men.

00:33:52.540 And it's open right now, but it's only open for four more days before we shut it down.

00:33:56.340 So when you band with us again, 1200 men inside the council, you're going to gain immediate

00:34:01.120 access to the brotherhood, the camaraderie, the accountability.

00:34:05.700 These are all the things that I needed when I set out on this path 10 plus years ago that

00:34:10.040 I didn't have access to.

00:34:11.140 So I created it.

00:34:12.620 And over seven years, we've been honing and refining and tweaking and adjusting so that

00:34:17.440 we can produce maximum results in my life, of course, but also in the lives of the guys

00:34:22.240 who, who have joined.

00:34:23.280 So if you want to take your finances, your family relationships, your fitness, every

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00:34:47.480 You can register right after the podcast for now and get back to it with Ray.

00:34:53.280 Well, I'm glad you're talking about the humility.

00:34:55.200 And I think this comes in line with what you said earlier about that savage servant.

00:34:59.180 You know, I think a lot of the times the messaging that so many men receive in podcasts or social

00:35:05.180 media on YouTube, all these places is be the savage, right?

00:35:10.000 And, and certainly we should, there are times where that's required, but I think more often

00:35:15.160 than not, maybe we ought to focus more on the servant element of it and realize that we should

00:35:20.780 be humble, realize that we should be open to learning new things that we're here to make

00:35:26.740 ourselves savages so that we can serve people more effectively.

00:35:30.800 I think that's a message that needs to be shouted from the rooftops a bit more than it is today.

00:35:35.060 I think there's a misinterpretation of what the word savage, the meaning of it is any servant

00:35:40.140 case in point, we, we, we kind of, uh, I, we digress back to, um, someone breaking into the

00:35:46.300 house, right?

00:35:47.240 Or here, let's use this, right?

00:35:48.800 You know, I love your son.

00:35:49.680 I love Breck.

00:35:50.300 I love all your kids.

00:35:51.020 Auto.

00:35:51.980 If I was going to, I'm more scared of auto than anybody else on the planet, your family.

00:35:55.480 No doubt.

00:35:56.060 No doubt.

00:35:56.740 So, and this is the, this is this, I actually like to draw a picture for the men as I explained

00:36:03.500 the savage servant.

00:36:04.380 And I want you as men to listen to this, right?

00:36:07.180 You have a family or someone that you care about.

00:36:09.420 You're sitting on a park bench, right?

00:36:11.220 You're sitting there, maybe just looking out, you know, looking at, taking the thoughts of

00:36:15.820 how lucky you are.

00:36:17.000 Your wife, Trisha, and the kids are sitting there playing.

00:36:19.780 They're about 12 feet away from you.

00:36:21.460 Okay.

00:36:22.340 They're from the North. 0.99

00:36:23.340 I'm coming in.

00:36:24.200 I'm coming into the Southern approach.

00:36:25.560 You see me with my fist clenched, you know, situation awareness, right?

00:36:29.020 Because as a man, you're always protecting your flock.

00:36:31.660 Right.

00:36:32.060 And I'm coming at them in an aggressive manner.

00:36:35.440 I know for a fact, you are going to get up and you are going to create dead space between

00:36:40.580 me and your family.

00:36:41.580 And you are going to, you are going to meet me.

00:36:44.180 I call it the meet and greet.

00:36:45.200 That meet and greet is either going to be a physical or a verbal altercation.

00:36:49.120 That's what it's going to be.

00:36:50.340 Depending on what my intents are and how you feel as a man, right? 0.95

00:36:54.460 Now, are you doing that because you're a savage?

00:36:57.320 Are you doing that because of us? 0.93

00:36:58.620 You're a servant.

00:36:59.120 You know the answer.

00:36:59.940 You're doing it as a servant because, right?

00:37:03.000 Here's the thing.

00:37:03.680 You can't pick the children that you have in this world.

00:37:07.100 You can't pick how they're going to be.

00:37:08.800 Obviously, you're doing the best you can with raising great children.

00:37:11.760 You chose your spouse.

00:37:13.280 This is what Pedro says, but make no mistake about it, my friend.

00:37:15.960 Make no mistake about it.

00:37:17.580 You courted her.

00:37:19.200 There was a courtship, right?

00:37:20.720 There is a ritual.

00:37:22.180 She chose you.

00:37:24.020 She chose you.

00:37:25.100 I don't know how you did.

00:37:25.940 I'm sure you're like me.

00:37:26.580 I got, I asked.

00:37:27.500 I don't know either, man.

00:37:29.120 I asked her father for permission.

00:37:32.560 My wife, true story, was in two bad relationships before me. 1.00

00:37:35.800 I had to explain myself to him of why I was worthy to be her husband.

00:37:43.000 He accepted that, thank the Lord.

00:37:45.740 But then I got on my knee and I asked her, will you, will you, right?

00:37:50.020 And what I said was between me and her, right?

00:37:51.980 But, and I'll ask you out, will you marry me?

00:37:54.480 And from there, I took on the role as a servant.

00:37:57.140 My job is to protect her by all means, provide for her, right?

00:38:01.400 Guide her.

00:38:02.180 But we're going to learn from each other.

00:38:04.940 So when you're doing this, my message is, I know everybody says, oh, Cashier, the savage.

00:38:10.040 No, I'm not.

00:38:10.520 I want to be the ultimate servant.

00:38:12.580 That's why I'm so aggressive with what I do because I want to serve so many because I finally learned how to serve myself because I was guilty of this.

00:38:23.860 And we've, I didn't know my self-worth for too long because of the childhood I had.

00:38:29.680 I was told I was worthless.

00:38:31.240 My father was murdered.

00:38:32.680 My mother and I didn't have a great connection.

00:38:35.620 Not a self-pity party, right?

00:38:37.100 I'm not doing that.

00:38:37.900 No.

00:38:38.460 Just giving you a backstory, right?

00:38:40.660 So I didn't know my self-worth, which then entail I self-sabotaged.

00:38:46.120 When I met Bedros Koulin, right?

00:38:48.980 Navy SEAL, CIA, right?

00:38:50.820 I can say that now because they're never going to let me back.

00:38:52.800 I had this amazing resume.

00:38:54.000 And Bedros is like, I want you to come and work for me.

00:38:59.680 I was like, wait a minute.

00:39:01.200 You mean not kicking in doors, not doing this?

00:39:02.740 Yes.

00:39:02.960 I want you to come work for me.

00:39:04.160 You have a gift.

00:39:05.180 You have this gift that I want to share with people.

00:39:07.720 And I went, no.

00:39:11.180 What do you, what do you mean?

00:39:13.040 No, you have this gift.

00:39:13.780 I can teach you.

00:39:14.640 I can teach you how to make more money doing something that you have a God-given talent for.

00:39:21.960 You don't have to go overseas and be put in harm's way.

00:39:24.180 And I was like, I'm scared shitless, B. 0.94

00:39:27.980 I'm scared shitless.

00:39:29.360 And he told me the story about the lion and the sheep, how the lion looked down in the

00:39:34.680 water because he was raised by sheep his whole life.

00:39:37.240 Have you heard that story?

00:39:38.580 It's an amazing story.

00:39:39.900 I don't think I have.

00:39:41.400 So many, many moons ago back in Africa.

00:39:44.560 And again, the lion and his pride came down to hunt.

00:39:48.580 They found a flock of sheep.

00:39:50.220 And the young cub, the young prince was watching his father.

00:39:53.040 So that would be Brackett.

00:39:53.880 And his father said, watch as the lionesses hunt.

00:39:59.460 And my job is to protect if another lion comes in or another predator.

00:40:02.680 And then I will attack.

00:40:04.100 So what happens is in the chaos, the young cub gets lost.

00:40:07.740 So the father looks and looks and searches and he can't find him.

00:40:11.620 And he writes him off as dead.

00:40:13.920 But the young, the young boy wasn't, the young cub wasn't dead.

00:40:17.340 He got trampled on by a lioness and he just passed out.

00:40:19.780 Well, he was woken up to by a herd of sheep that took him in as their own.

00:40:24.480 Right.

00:40:25.160 And they raised him as their own.

00:40:26.820 Well, many moons later, that same battle tested, battle proven warrior, the king comes down and the lionesses are attacking.

00:40:36.820 And all of a sudden he sees his blood and he runs up to him and charges him.

00:40:41.800 And he goes, son, I'm your father.

00:40:44.820 And the lion says, no, this is my father.

00:40:48.660 And he says, come with me.

00:40:50.060 And he walks, walks into the water.

00:40:52.560 He goes, look, look at the reflection of you and I.

00:40:55.620 We are the same.

00:40:56.400 We come from the same blood with this.

00:40:59.420 And he says, no, we may look the same, but you were not there for me.

00:41:03.960 So he says, I want you to roar.

00:41:06.100 I want you to we do this in the squire.

00:41:07.680 This is where I come up with this roar.

00:41:09.660 And the father roars.

00:41:12.280 And it's just the valley shakes.

00:41:15.020 He's battle tested, battle proven.

00:41:18.180 Now, the young prince, who's just as big, but he's not as battle proven or tested.

00:41:23.080 And inhales his lungs and goes back.

00:41:29.300 And the father literally goes, OK, so he says, walk back with me, son. 1.00

00:41:33.840 And as he walks back, the father turns and he bites him in his ass as hard as he can. 1.00

00:41:38.540 And he really sinks in. 1.00

00:41:39.460 And that line turns around and goes because he unleashed the beast.

00:41:45.600 And once he did that, it was a magnetic charge where the servant came and he goes.

00:41:50.440 You may be my you may be my father by blood, but I was raised by the sheep. 1.00

00:41:55.360 And if you mess with me, I will kill you. 1.00

00:41:58.520 Now, what I learned from there is I kept looking down into and I get emotional about this, the water. 1.00

00:42:07.080 I was only programmed to be the sheep.

00:42:09.120 Now, the sheep was kicking in doors and doing other things.

00:42:11.000 I was so happy and so content with doing dangerous things.

00:42:14.260 I was I was shallow and wide when you really said I had no depth. 0.99

00:42:20.600 Bedros came in and bit me in the ass, literally speaking, right, figuratively. 1.00

00:42:24.460 Sorry, I don't know. 1.00

00:42:25.800 I've seen I've seen some things.

00:42:27.240 I don't know if that's a not did that.

00:42:31.880 I stopped. 0.98

00:42:33.260 I said, holy shit, I do have self-worth. 0.99

00:42:36.600 I'm going to stop self-sabotaging. 0.99

00:42:39.040 And then I looked at Bedros cooliness at Bedros. 0.97

00:42:41.460 Teach me how to create self-success.

00:42:44.460 Give me more purpose.

00:42:45.880 There must be more purpose than doing.

00:42:49.300 Things for our country, we'll leave it at that.

00:42:51.740 There's got I've got I've got to have more depth.

00:42:53.860 And he did.

00:42:54.880 Was it easy?

00:42:55.500 No.

00:42:56.100 Do I still self-sabotage myself from time to time?

00:42:58.960 Yes.

00:42:59.900 Bedros coolian literally is the captain of putting me back in the check. 1.00

00:43:03.500 Sometimes he does it with positive reinforcement.

00:43:06.060 Sometimes he does it with negative reinforcement.

00:43:08.200 And all I've done, Ryan, is I've taken that same model.

00:43:13.060 And I use it for these courses with men.

00:43:17.220 That's what I do.

00:43:18.240 We roar.

00:43:19.340 The young men roar all day long at the end of the squire.

00:43:21.620 You roar.

00:43:22.060 We show them they have so much farther to go, right?

00:43:25.960 But these young warriors, they're not intimidated by that.

00:43:29.320 Or by the time we've explained everything, it usually ends with, oh, my goodness, man, I'm going to say it.

00:43:34.840 A hug.

00:43:35.560 Because it's okay to hug another man, right?

00:43:37.660 Yeah.

00:43:38.040 Men, the women have the C word. 1.00

00:43:40.960 Men have the V word. 0.99

00:43:42.120 Women are creative. 1.00

00:43:43.220 Get your mind out of the gutter.

00:43:44.620 And men are vulnerable.

00:43:46.360 No.

00:43:47.120 What do you mean?

00:43:47.720 I wasn't thinking anything.

00:43:49.300 Yeah, but a lot too.

00:43:50.500 It's okay to be a vulnerable man.

00:43:52.500 Once you accept that you are a vulnerable human being, an animal, that you will allow growth in if you want to let it happen.

00:44:01.660 Surround yourself with a proper flock.

00:44:04.620 Right?

00:44:04.720 I got rid of my old flock.

00:44:07.940 I have a new flock.

00:44:08.660 I'm hanging out with the best in the biz.

00:44:11.280 You will see different sides of me.

00:44:13.220 You will see me yelling and cursing at certain times.

00:44:17.420 But you've also seen me with the young men.

00:44:19.540 I don't use negative reinforcement for these young men.

00:44:22.380 But will I tell them, hey, listen, I know you've got more to do more. 0.99

00:44:25.640 Or I'll tell them, fucking look at me. 0.99

00:44:28.000 Right? 1.00

00:44:28.300 I am dialing these young men in.

00:44:31.400 And I'm doing this with the approval of the fathers.

00:44:33.660 And then what happens is we're creating these lifelong, he's your son.

00:44:38.360 We can say the bond, but it's a brotherhood.

00:44:40.160 He's a man.

00:44:41.480 Right?

00:44:42.120 Even though you and Brecken will always have, and your children, I'm going to talk about the men and the life will have that.

00:44:47.700 As he gets older, it's still a bond, but that's a brotherhood.

00:44:50.560 Right?

00:44:50.680 That is something, because as he gets older and someone breaks into that house, eventually he's going to be beside you.

00:44:57.400 And then as you get older, he's going to step up and be in front of you and protect you.

00:45:03.480 Because that is the cycle of life if you're doing it right. 0.77

00:45:07.860 Versus having a shitty relationship with your child, not teaching him, not being a great role model for him. 0.92

00:45:14.120 You're going to keep him behind you. 0.87

00:45:15.560 And guess what happens later on in life?

00:45:17.320 He's not going to be behind you.

00:45:18.380 He's not going to be anywhere.

00:45:19.180 Because you have not done your job.

00:45:22.880 Right?

00:45:22.960 He's not equipped to deal with it.

00:45:24.560 He's not equipped to deal with it.

00:45:26.020 He is going to be equipped to deal with whatever he has surrounded himself with.

00:45:29.520 And usually people like that tend to fall into the wrong elements.

00:45:34.340 That's what we're doing.

00:45:36.180 That story is, that's a cool story.

00:45:37.960 I've never heard that.

00:45:38.660 I'm going to have to look that up and go through that again.

00:45:41.100 But you said something that I don't know that I agree with on the surface.

00:45:45.440 You said that you were the sheep and that Bedros helped wake you up. 1.00

00:45:52.320 But I think from all objective measures, from the outside looking in, Navy SEAL, CIA contractor, all around badass, people would say, no, you weren't the sheep.

00:46:02.800 You were the lion.

00:46:03.560 And so help me understand the disparity.

00:46:06.340 Perfect.

00:46:06.980 On the outside, I looked like a lion.

00:46:09.280 On the inside, I had the mentality of a sheep.

00:46:11.880 That's what I meant by that.

00:46:13.280 Literally, I would rather go to battle.

00:46:15.980 I would rather kick in the door at night with my nods on, going into the unknown, having to go do a DA or take a target out, which is a direct action.

00:46:23.680 Which means you go in and you have an objective to do, TST, a time, sense of target.

00:46:28.900 You've got to get on and off the target.

00:46:31.000 If something gets in your way, you have to figure out what has to happen at that time and point.

00:46:37.420 I've been trained to do that.

00:46:39.140 But to get on a call and talk to someone about making a sale or getting out of my comfort zone.

00:46:46.480 I was a sheep.

00:46:47.740 I was a lion.

00:46:49.920 I looked like a lion, but the internal was the sheep. 0.99

00:46:52.400 All Bedros did is when he bit me in the ass, the symbolism is he released the inner lion. 0.99

00:46:58.360 Now I'm one of his best. 0.99

00:46:59.540 And again, I don't like to use the word salesman because I don't sell anything.

00:47:02.460 I'm a salesman.

00:47:03.540 I tell a story when I get on the phone with people.

00:47:06.540 I talk about my life.

00:47:08.680 I talk and usually people can resonate with that.

00:47:11.780 And I tell people I was a sheep for too long on the inside and now I'm a lion.

00:47:17.260 And now that my internal is equivalent to my external, I honestly believe I have an unstoppable mindset.

00:47:26.600 There's nothing I can't do because I used to overthink the process and underthink what the action was going to be.

00:47:36.260 You have to trust the process.

00:47:37.440 I used to overthink it all the time.

00:47:39.320 But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but what if I do this?

00:47:42.140 What if I do that?

00:47:43.320 Well, the process takes a long time.

00:47:45.400 That's the problem.

00:47:46.340 That was my problem.

00:47:47.960 I was so used to eliminating the problem so fast as a Navy SEAL because I had done so, that had been my whole life.

00:47:56.120 That when I went into business and I realized, or with my family, like if I upset my wife, let's use, let's use my treasure.

00:48:03.820 I upset her.

00:48:04.600 I can't go, hey, babe, I'm sorry.

00:48:05.960 Let's move on.

00:48:06.500 It doesn't work like that.

00:48:08.240 For you, it does.

00:48:09.100 Not for her.

00:48:10.080 Yes, it takes time.

00:48:11.820 So what I had to do was shift, right?

00:48:15.920 Because I'm a man and I have different roles.

00:48:18.320 I can't be Navy SEAL all the time.

00:48:20.060 I have to also be husband and father and realize that I have right now, I have women in the house. 1.00

00:48:24.740 I can't be that.

00:48:26.540 I can't use that same approach.

00:48:29.240 I couldn't.

00:48:29.700 And now there are some times where I can, but I pull from these different personalities that I have to get the mission accomplished.

00:48:37.160 I have to use a little bit more finesse.

00:48:39.020 I have a 13-year-old daughter.

00:48:40.920 I can't go, come on, let's go.

00:48:42.880 Come on, get up. 0.96

00:48:43.720 It doesn't work.

00:48:44.760 I could do that with my son.

00:48:47.040 The thing is, is Bedros has taught me, right?

00:48:49.920 I used to just be so compartmentalized.

00:48:51.840 I had one.

00:48:52.880 There I am.

00:48:53.640 Now, you know, people see me with my wife or you'll see like perfect example.

00:48:58.140 People come to the Squire program and they're like, they're hesitant.

00:49:01.480 They're like, I don't want you screaming at my kid.

00:49:03.480 I've heard this before.

00:49:04.800 You're not going to F my kid out.

00:49:06.300 Of course I'm not.

00:49:07.920 And people are like, but that's all I see on social media because you're seeing something because these men are at a different point in their life.

00:49:15.080 You are doing what a man should be doing right now in your life.

00:49:19.660 And that is you are getting external guidance, right?

00:49:22.380 Because listen, you and I have the same beliefs across the board.

00:49:24.740 We've had these conversations, right?

00:49:26.460 I honestly thought for the longest time that you were a little like, oh, I got to feel because that's what like Jason Redman said.

00:49:34.900 I've been wanting to get on your podcast for a few years.

00:49:36.920 I remember Jason got on.

00:49:37.640 He goes, Ryan's probably trying to figure you out, man, because he's super chill.

00:49:41.720 And he goes, right.

00:49:42.660 I'm just in case of war break glass.

00:49:44.880 That's what Jason Redman calls me.

00:49:46.160 But that's a good thing, right?

00:49:49.320 I mean, but I can't.

00:49:50.520 It takes all types.

00:49:51.540 Yeah, it takes all types.

00:49:53.560 But in my case, the point I'm trying to make is if three of us go into a room and we enter a room and we have an objective, I go in the room and I go, I break right.

00:50:02.300 You break left.

00:50:03.180 We see different things.

00:50:04.360 We come in.

00:50:04.880 We pie our room, overlapping fields of fire.

00:50:07.700 We accomplish the mission.

00:50:08.900 Even though we didn't see the same things, we accomplish the mission.

00:50:13.940 So I see things sometimes different than other people.

00:50:16.820 But as long as we have the same objective, right, and that's to be better, create like you're doing the same thing.

00:50:23.260 I'm, you know, obviously at a much bigger level, but we're creating a generation of better, better men.

00:50:29.640 And people will pull from my flavor, your flavor, Tim's flavor, Matt's flavor. 0.99

00:50:37.500 And who gives a shit? 0.99

00:50:40.000 Who gives a shit as long as it works? 0.99

00:50:41.680 Like, I would have never thought myself and Brecken would have had the relationship we had. 0.99

00:50:45.840 I love your son like he's my son.

00:50:47.340 I mean, I love him.

00:50:48.780 He is.

00:50:49.380 He's respectful.

00:50:50.800 Whenever I see him, I give him a hug.

00:50:52.500 I mean, some men would be like, don't hug my son.

00:50:54.500 I love him.

00:50:55.280 Come here, boy.

00:50:55.840 I love him.

00:50:56.700 You know, I want to hang out with him.

00:50:58.480 Um, I want to be on his podcast.

00:51:00.680 And I told him the only way I'm going to be on your podcast, young man, is on my own.

00:51:04.680 I will fly up there.

00:51:05.660 I want to sit in the awesome room where you're at.

00:51:08.140 I've seen that room.

00:51:08.980 I was like, oh, you know, um, and I said, let's do this.

00:51:13.320 And then afterwards, we're going to break bread because that's what men or lobster, lobster. 1.00

00:51:19.460 Yeah.

00:51:19.980 14 years old.

00:51:21.020 People go, he's not a man.

00:51:22.340 Yes, he is.

00:51:23.760 He is a man.

00:51:25.180 He's just a young man.

00:51:26.420 Um, so Ray, I'll, I'll tell you this.

00:51:29.120 I'm, I think by default, I'm a bit of an observer.

00:51:32.880 You know, I, I do, I sit back and I observe and I watch and, you know, sometimes I'm intense,

00:51:38.520 but for the most part, I'm watching and seeing and seeing how people behave and trying to

00:51:42.680 get a bearing.

00:51:43.180 And, um, even I'll tell you this, I haven't told you this before, but I saw something

00:51:47.680 different in you.

00:51:48.700 Um, I don't want to say maturity and I don't want to, you know, like pander or anything

00:51:54.160 like that, but I saw a level of depth in this last program that we did together up here in

00:51:59.680 Maine that I hadn't seen before.

00:52:01.720 And I just wanted to tell you that, that I really respect how you showed up for those

00:52:06.440 boys.

00:52:06.760 And I saw those boys, those young men, that's the better, that's the better word.

00:52:10.600 Young men, not boys, young men.

00:52:11.920 Yes.

00:52:12.240 Young men.

00:52:13.080 I saw those young men and the level of respect that they developed for you over a period of,

00:52:18.620 you know, uh, 15, 16 hours.

00:52:21.680 And there was a level of depth that was always there, but even more so this time.

00:52:26.760 And I just, I wanted to tell you that because I've been meaning to tell you that.

00:52:29.660 Man, I appreciate it too.

00:52:31.220 And, you know, even with your, you, you are, you're more an observer.

00:52:35.960 Um, you know, it's funny, uh, and you're laid back, but when you do speak, it, it, it

00:52:42.960 demand, it, it, it's very commanding, right?

00:52:45.180 Like when you give your, your speeches, like everybody, even where, you know, I've heard

00:52:48.740 other instructors talking, I'm doing something, you start talking.

00:52:51.300 And I always, I say, Ryan Mickler's the moth to the flame.

00:52:54.380 People are like, because you have a very empowering message.

00:52:57.800 Um, and I think it's, you, you know, you have a different platform that you speak from,

00:53:02.180 from me, right?

00:53:02.700 Like I'm, I come out of the gate hard.

00:53:05.000 You, you seem like you absorb a lot, you know, you ask, make, and then you take, right.

00:53:09.500 You're asking like from an outside perspective, what's going on with these young men.

00:53:13.740 You, you take that, you take that knowledge in and then you, you just make that presentation.

00:53:19.000 Um, case in point is when we were running the young men to the fathers, remember we split

00:53:26.640 and did that and you, I'm not going to say what it was, but you had a talk right there

00:53:29.760 with the young men.

00:53:30.700 There were a couple of young men afterwards that were just like, wow.

00:53:34.160 And I was like sitting there right with them going, wow.

00:53:37.120 Because you couldn't have said it at a better time of the process of when it was happening.

00:53:45.200 Timing is key, right?

00:53:46.440 Versus me just don't come on, you know, because when in doubt I yell, come on, you didn't,

00:53:51.740 you didn't yell at these men.

00:53:53.020 You broke it down an octave and you presented it to them on a different level, a different

00:53:59.680 frequency, right?

00:54:00.580 Because communication is transmitting and receiving.

00:54:02.580 Um, there's ultra, you know, ultra high.

00:54:06.160 And I always say ultra, ultra high frequency.

00:54:07.980 You went to a whole different level, even though the frequency was high, the presentation

00:54:13.620 was very monotone and you just know when to accentuate the right words.

00:54:20.420 You have that great ebb and flow with it.

00:54:22.520 And they just took it.

00:54:23.720 Like you took off with a guy that we just sat there for a second.

00:54:26.400 I was like, wow.

00:54:29.020 All right, let's get back to it.

00:54:30.360 You know, and then what happens is that's when they do this.

00:54:33.440 That's what's so key is self-reflection, right?

00:54:35.800 That was things you were talking about.

00:54:38.060 Um, and I told the young man, we could have taken off.

00:54:40.100 I said, I want you guys to take about two minutes, really self-reflect with instructor

00:54:43.940 Ryan just said, um, and they did.

00:54:46.060 And I said, I want you to harness that and use that.

00:54:49.220 And a lot of them were like, you know, they weren't off wandering around doing stuff.

00:54:52.880 There were 20 young warriors that literally, I said, take a knee, right?

00:54:57.980 Take an athlete's knee.

00:54:59.020 Don't sit on your butts, take an athlete's knee and think about that. 0.88

00:55:02.360 And they did. 0.92

00:55:03.100 And they got up and I was like, let's go.

00:55:04.520 And they were like, you know, then the roaring started and we took off.

00:55:07.560 So it was like, it was, you were a very intricate part of flipping that switch for these young

00:55:15.440 men.

00:55:15.720 You know, it was, you're like silent Bob from, you know, sorry, you come in and just like

00:55:23.260 how many, how many other men are going to, or women are going to bring you lasagna. 1.00

00:55:27.340 You knew what to say.

00:55:28.560 And it was so impactful.

00:55:30.420 Thank you, bro.

00:55:31.620 That means a lot.

00:55:32.160 So, and I think that just comes with, you know, who you are, what you do and you practice

00:55:37.720 what you preach, man.

00:55:38.540 I mean, your family is, when I think of America, American apple pie, I'm just like, you know,

00:55:44.380 the Mickler estate, you know, the, the huge, we're trying to live that brother.

00:55:49.560 We're trying to live it.

00:55:50.760 I love it.

00:55:51.520 I love it.

00:55:52.100 I'm just, I want to shift gears real quick because you had said something a minute ago

00:55:57.980 and you're talking about the Squire program and you're talking about 1900 bucks.

00:56:03.120 And, you know, a lot of the times I want to talk about investment in ourselves and investment

00:56:07.440 in our people.

00:56:08.340 A lot of times we might see a price tag of $2,000 and think, oh, you know, but then if

00:56:14.980 you take that and you spread that out over, let's just for easy math, say 19 years instead

00:56:19.860 of 18 years, that's a hundred dollars that you're going to invest per year into your

00:56:25.480 child.

00:56:26.700 You know, that's a lot more manageable, but it's always fascinating to me.

00:56:30.940 And I've been here.

00:56:32.000 I get it that people are unwilling to invest in themselves and their people, their wife,

00:56:37.980 their colleagues, their coworkers, their friends, their kids, when what will be returned to

00:56:42.860 them is literally incalculable.

00:56:45.760 Like there's an infinite rate of return on a hundred dollars a year spent and people just

00:56:53.460 won't make that commitment.

00:56:55.260 It's one of my biggest frustrations.

00:56:58.600 But, and, and I couldn't agree with you more, but what will people, let's talk about what

00:57:03.200 people will invest in real quick.

00:57:04.980 And then I'll answer that, uh, get rich, uh, quick schemes over overnight Hollywood diets. 0.80

00:57:11.800 But this is what infuriates me.

00:57:14.660 People will invest in video games for their children.

00:57:17.520 They'll invest in giving them electronics, which does what takes the emphasis off of

00:57:24.240 them happen to be a parent.

00:57:25.420 Cause they, the kids can sit here and do this all day.

00:57:28.160 When we were kids, what did you do?

00:57:29.900 You got up, you did your chores.

00:57:31.640 You went out, you got yelled at.

00:57:33.400 There was no phone.

00:57:34.880 You had a clock.

00:57:35.880 You, you know, I'd set my clock.

00:57:37.320 Oh mom, my watch wants to stop.

00:57:38.880 My mom would smack me. 0.99

00:57:39.800 I would come home.

00:57:41.000 It was dinnertime.

00:57:42.100 It was dark when I came home.

00:57:43.580 It's right. 1.00

00:57:44.160 You went out, you played and, and, and, and young men did dangerous shit. 0.99

00:57:47.480 We, we explored, well, we did things. 0.99

00:57:50.420 Um, and I think that's why we're the way we are because every step that we took as a

00:57:55.540 young man out there in the world, we were investing in ourselves versus sitting on my 0.99

00:57:59.220 ass, playing a video game. 0.99

00:58:00.960 You have the strongest thumbs and the strongest, you know, neck muscle you can to do this in 0.98

00:58:06.180 the world.

00:58:06.600 Um, and that's the problem.

00:58:09.000 People don't want to invest in themselves and infuriates me.

00:58:11.660 I break the project.

00:58:12.500 I break down everything like that.

00:58:14.400 How many, how many times do people invest in doing fast food because it's convenient versus

00:58:18.780 doing a home cooked meal, right?

00:58:21.780 You have a family.

00:58:22.780 This is what I tell you guys.

00:58:23.680 This is what we do.

00:58:24.400 Once a week, someone breaks out a cookbook and we come up with an idea.

00:58:27.320 I do it.

00:58:27.900 My wife does it. 1.00

00:58:28.480 My daughter does it right.

00:58:30.300 I'm not, I'm not getting religious, but we pray before we eat.

00:58:33.060 That's what we do.

00:58:33.680 I know you do that too, right?

00:58:35.540 Um, we do all three of us.

00:58:37.600 Um, we do father family gatherings.

00:58:40.480 If you're going to invest in something, investing something that is going to be lifelong, because

00:58:45.780 here's what I'll tell you.

00:58:46.560 Let's use the diet, right?

00:58:47.840 Let's say you do a fasting plan and you lose a whole bunch of weight.

00:58:50.980 If you take it off fast, guess what's going to happen to you to put it right back on.

00:58:54.020 Cause that's what people do, or they want this and they want that, or, Ooh, they'll invent,

00:58:57.920 they'll, they'll go out and buy a fancy car, right?

00:59:01.340 Not worry about interest rates or all this because they're so focused on what they're

00:59:04.220 going to look like in that car, what it's going to bring them.

00:59:06.240 You know what's going to bring them?

00:59:07.380 Nothing.

00:59:08.640 It's going to bring them a headache, right?

00:59:10.360 I just got, right.

00:59:11.380 Of course.

00:59:12.460 Versus spending the money to create a relationship with your son, which, because here's what happens

00:59:19.800 to majority of the people.

00:59:21.340 I'm not saying you're bad dads or fathers out there.

00:59:23.360 I'm just saying the world is a complicated place and everybody's all over the place.

00:59:27.700 Remember before we had all the social media and things, family sat around, we did things

00:59:31.960 that I'm trying.

00:59:33.560 That's what you need to invest in breaking, breaking bread with your family, $1,900 to,

00:59:39.840 to create a, a, a, a stronger bond with your son.

00:59:43.840 We had, we had a gentleman, um, and I know this, this has no relevancy, but I want to explain

00:59:48.860 the depth of it, um, the mom remarried, um, someone from another ethnicity, let's leave 0.98

00:59:55.100 it like that.

00:59:55.600 Right.

00:59:55.960 And the son had a real problem with it.

00:59:57.780 He was also a Lieutenant Colonel in the army.

01:00:00.240 Um, we did, we did the ice bath and it was pretty, pretty tough.

01:00:04.140 But then when we blindfolded that young man and he's like, son, you got to listen to me.

01:00:08.980 He said, yes, sir.

01:00:10.000 Right.

01:00:10.260 Yes, sir.

01:00:10.680 And you see what we walk these, we walk these men through hell, but what we're really doing

01:00:14.720 is we're walking them through life and we're just amplifying what these, you as a father

01:00:19.260 and a dad, whatever the, you know, there's a fathers and dads you as the, the man of the

01:00:23.840 house has been doing with Brecken since the day he was been born, protecting him, guiding

01:00:28.760 him and teaching him.

01:00:30.520 Right.

01:00:30.920 And he needs to trust you.

01:00:33.020 So all we do is do that.

01:00:34.360 But here's what was so impactful about that.

01:00:36.260 When, when the evolution was done, I always tell the fathers, don't let them take blindfold

01:00:42.000 off.

01:00:42.340 You take it off and when you take it off, that young warrior hugged his stepfather

01:00:48.020 and Lily, they were holding.

01:00:49.980 I was right.

01:00:50.480 You know, I'm right back there and I won't lie to you, man.

01:00:52.080 I got teary eyed because I knew the backstory.

01:00:53.700 I got teary eyed because that's okay.

01:00:54.900 I'm a warrior.

01:00:55.340 I'll do that.

01:00:57.160 And the father said, I want to talk to you.

01:00:58.920 And I was like, okay.

01:00:59.800 And he pulled me over and he said, Ray, I swear. 0.97

01:01:01.640 He goes, I would have fucking paid $50,000. 0.96

01:01:04.840 I've been looking for this for three years of my life. 0.99

01:01:07.500 And this is what I told him, sir.

01:01:09.620 It's not, don't focus on what just happened.

01:01:12.660 Focus on what you're going to do from this happening.

01:01:16.620 They're coming back to the Chino Hills again.

01:01:19.020 That's awesome.

01:01:19.660 That's, that's, that's what it's about, man.

01:01:22.220 We're just, it's kind of doing a self calibration, right?

01:01:26.100 We are getting rid of all the outside extremities in the world. 1.00

01:01:30.320 No cell phones, no this, no that.

01:01:32.460 And just focusing on the task at hand, really getting into the right where the metal meets

01:01:37.980 the meat, where the bonds take place, where we've had these young warriors confront their

01:01:43.520 fathers.

01:01:43.920 At your course, we had a father who wasn't in the best of shape.

01:01:47.740 We'll leave it at that.

01:01:48.860 You remember what happened with that, right?

01:01:50.800 We had the, I asked the son, what do you think about that?

01:01:53.880 Father had eight children.

01:01:55.100 He goes, I don't like it.

01:01:56.800 I want my father to get in better shape so he can be around for my family.

01:02:01.760 I said, what he, his, his wife, you know, you probably don't know this.

01:02:05.200 His wife reached out to me.

01:02:07.240 No, I didn't know that.

01:02:08.580 She reached out to me and she was so grateful.

01:02:11.240 He was grateful.

01:02:12.240 The father, the son was grateful.

01:02:13.740 And she was grateful for what we put those, those men through.

01:02:17.480 And because she's going to see the after effects, right?

01:02:20.340 All people see is all its dollars.

01:02:21.800 No.

01:02:22.360 So what did I make that young man do when his father come back?

01:02:24.740 I want you to look at your father and tell him how you feel.

01:02:29.800 But my dad will get mad.

01:02:30.960 I said, this is, I said, this is what I promise you.

01:02:32.820 I will be far enough away where I can't hear what's said, but I am close enough that if

01:02:38.180 your father yells at you, I will literally, as another male role model, and I know that's

01:02:42.140 dangerous territory, I will step in because you as a man should be able to express to another

01:02:48.980 man how you feel as long as it's constructive criticism.

01:02:51.180 I said, it's all in the approach, right?

01:02:53.140 You're not going to tell your dad that in front of other men that do, you don't do that.

01:02:56.440 That would be like me coming to your house and telling you how to father.

01:02:59.400 Right.

01:03:00.000 That's not going to go well.

01:03:01.020 I know you, that ain't going to go well for me.

01:03:02.820 But if I pulled you aside, we were out maybe, you know, smoking a cigar or something and

01:03:07.400 said, hey, Ryan, listen, as a father, I noticed a few things.

01:03:10.940 I'd like to give you just a few tips.

01:03:13.400 No one's around man to man.

01:03:14.880 Just please take it as constructive criticism because I think you're an amazing human being

01:03:18.040 because this worked for me.

01:03:19.380 I tell you what that is.

01:03:20.300 Hopefully you're going to go.

01:03:21.000 Thank you, Ray.

01:03:21.740 You'll put it in the toolbox.

01:03:23.140 That's it.

01:03:24.060 It's all about the approach, right?

01:03:26.140 Same thing with fathers, right?

01:03:28.160 One father's like, my son's out of shape.

01:03:30.480 You know why he's out of shape?

01:03:31.480 No, because you're out of shape.

01:03:33.620 Do you guys exercise together?

01:03:35.340 No, I don't have time. 1.00

01:03:37.020 Bullshit. 1.00

01:03:38.060 You do have time. 1.00

01:03:39.360 Get up earlier or go to bed later.

01:03:41.160 You do have time.

01:03:42.700 And this is what I'm telling these men.

01:03:44.100 And we're making a difference.

01:03:45.260 They're working out together now, at least what the young man told me.

01:03:48.060 Not a lot, but they're doing it.

01:03:49.740 So, yeah, that's what I'm going to continue to do.

01:03:52.300 And that's why I'm going to get on great podcasts like this and come to your amazing events and PT people, physical training and exercising because it's a lifestyle.

01:04:03.420 It's not a fad.

01:04:04.680 This is not a, I feel like being a dad or a father today.

01:04:07.800 No, I feel like being a husband today.

01:04:09.960 No, it is like, man, we're open 24 hours a day, man.

01:04:13.640 We don't shut down rain, sleet or snow.

01:04:15.740 We've got to be on our A game.

01:04:17.220 And listen, there are days I don't want to get up.

01:04:19.060 There are days I don't want to get up, but I signed the dotted line, man.

01:04:23.120 When I said, Tricia, will you marry me?

01:04:25.460 She was like, um, please.

01:04:27.300 Yes.

01:04:27.840 Yes.

01:04:28.540 All right.

01:04:30.060 That is a bonding contract for the rest of our lives.

01:04:32.900 And people need to, what's the word I'm looking for?

01:04:36.120 They need to honor it.

01:04:37.360 Thank you.

01:04:38.000 I was trying to think of something more powerful than that, but they do.

01:04:40.900 It's a contract that's null and void.

01:04:43.440 It can't go away because so many people just give up so easy today. 0.98

01:04:48.160 And it's, it's horseshit.

01:04:50.020 And it's because like when people, when you hear the divorce rates and everything, people 0.95

01:04:53.560 aren't giving up on the relationship.

01:04:54.860 A lot of times they're just giving up on themselves.

01:04:57.020 Man.

01:04:57.380 I agree.

01:04:58.280 It's hard.

01:04:59.060 I don't know what to do.

01:04:59.860 And so I'm out.

01:05:00.940 And so I'm out.

01:05:01.700 Bye.

01:05:02.020 Yeah.

01:05:02.940 Unacceptable.

01:05:03.940 It's life is a fight.

01:05:05.320 It's a battle.

01:05:06.560 If, if you are surrounding yourself with the right people.

01:05:10.220 And, you know, like I said, like, you know, there are days where, I mean, I'm sure

01:05:13.440 you and Trish Bicker, I mean, we don't get crazy, but there are days where I just

01:05:16.680 like, you'll see this, but you got to remember while you're there, you got to look at those

01:05:24.000 children.

01:05:24.380 You got to look at what you've created, right?

01:05:25.920 You got, and then what I do is go, there's no one else on earth.

01:05:30.120 I would rather be with right now.

01:05:31.600 There's no other job.

01:05:32.460 You know, Bedros recently just reached out to me and said, Hey Ray, I'm thinking about

01:05:36.320 would you want to do this to make even more money than you're making?

01:05:39.580 And I said, well, would I still be a part of your team the way I'm now?

01:05:41.940 He goes, I'd probably start branching you off by yourself.

01:05:44.420 I'm like, nope, I love, I love where I'm at.

01:05:47.640 People are like, you're giving away money.

01:05:49.320 No, it's not always about the money.

01:05:52.580 It's about how you feel, what you're doing, the impact you're making.

01:05:56.060 I've realized that's the first thing that Bedros taught me is he's like, the money will

01:05:59.660 come and it's coming.

01:06:00.800 But the more you make, the more you give, you know, as well as I do the shirts, all that

01:06:05.100 all goes to charities.

01:06:07.040 I'm, I'm a rich man in many ways.

01:06:08.860 I know people go, you know, money doesn't buy happiness.

01:06:12.680 It buys freedom.

01:06:13.900 It's a vessel.

01:06:14.900 It creates time and opportunity so I can do more things that I want.

01:06:19.300 Right.

01:06:19.480 And that's what I want to do right now. 0.97

01:06:21.480 When I go to the Squire, I don't get paid for that, but damn, it makes me feel good, 0.97

01:06:25.460 man. 0.98

01:06:25.780 It makes me feel good.

01:06:26.820 And I won't stop.

01:06:28.520 We're going to go nationwide with this program.

01:06:30.460 Um, my job is to change, impact, and create a new civilization of men who are just bigger, 0.96

01:06:42.800 better, faster, and stronger.

01:06:43.960 And that doesn't just mean like this.

01:06:45.400 It means mind, body, and soul so that they can become the warriors that I know they were

01:06:51.720 meant to be.

01:06:53.000 Um, is it going to be easy?

01:06:54.060 No.

01:06:54.900 Um, are you going to mess up?

01:06:56.720 Yes.

01:06:57.640 But are you, are you going to quit?

01:06:58.840 Hell no.

01:06:59.360 Fail, just don't get, don't quit.

01:07:02.220 It's powerful, man.

01:07:03.500 Powerful.

01:07:03.920 I love you, Ray.

01:07:04.480 I appreciate everything that you do and everything that you are.

01:07:07.020 And I'm glad we were finally able to make this happen.

01:07:09.140 Like I said, it's been a long time in the works, but man, I'm glad we were able to make

01:07:12.820 it happen.

01:07:13.200 I know the guys will be served by, uh, by tuning in and most importantly, applying the things

01:07:17.860 that we're talking about.

01:07:18.860 Where do the guys connect with you if they want to learn more about what you're up to?

01:07:21.760 And, and yeah, there's, there's a couple of ways that you can.

01:07:24.300 Yeah.

01:07:24.420 Great question.

01:07:24.940 First, you can go to, um, Ray cash care.com.

01:07:27.600 That's actually my, my website.

01:07:29.360 Um, and you can ask questions on there, like for doing different things, or you can just

01:07:33.580 go to my IG page, um, at Ray cash care, and you can DM me.

01:07:37.600 And this is what I tell every single human being.

01:07:39.640 If you DM me something constructive, you will get a constructive response.

01:07:43.840 I answer every DM that I get. 1.00

01:07:45.820 If you write something stupid, you're going to get blocked. 1.00

01:07:49.020 I have over 40,000 people blocked. 1.00

01:07:50.640 It's my favorite button.

01:07:53.540 That's good to know.

01:07:54.380 Fair warning right there.

01:07:55.600 Fair warning guys.

01:07:57.200 We'll sync it all up.

01:07:58.120 We'll let the guys know where to go.

01:07:59.240 I'm sure they'll be glad to connect with you.

01:08:01.200 And I'm, I'm sure that the overwhelming majority of it will be constructive and helpful when

01:08:05.380 they reach out brother.

01:08:06.620 I appreciate you.

01:08:07.140 Thanks for joining me on the podcast.

01:08:08.680 Thank you, sir.

01:08:09.220 It's been an absolute honor.

01:08:12.100 All right, guys, there you go.

01:08:13.180 My conversation with the one and only Ray cash care.

01:08:15.560 It is my hope that you enjoyed that conversation as much as I always love having conversations

01:08:20.820 with Ray.

01:08:21.300 We've broken bread together.

01:08:22.400 Our families have spent time together.

01:08:24.300 We've done vacations together.

01:08:26.160 And I can tell you from experience, this is a man who really has other men and young men's

01:08:33.000 best interests at heart.

01:08:34.980 So make sure you connect with him, shoot him a message on Instagram.

01:08:38.160 That's where he's most active, I believe.

01:08:40.260 And let him know what you thought about the podcast.

01:08:42.140 Give him some constructive feedback.

01:08:44.120 Let him know what you enjoyed most about it.

01:08:45.920 Tell him you heard him here on the podcast.

01:08:48.800 Take a screenshot, tag Ray, tag myself, let the world know, leave a rating and review.

01:08:53.980 And then, and then again, excuse me, if you want to band with us, these like-minded men

01:08:59.540 who are all on similar missions to improve themselves and their families and finances and

01:09:04.240 health and everything else, then check out the iron council.

01:09:07.240 That's going to be closing down this week.

01:09:08.580 Order of man.com slash iron council, order of man.com slash iron council.

01:09:15.220 All right, guys, with that said, we'll be back tomorrow and over the coming days and

01:09:19.820 weeks, I will be recovering and recuperating and regaining my energy.

01:09:24.720 It's a little down right now, but I will be regaining that.

01:09:27.120 I can assure you and promise you that I appreciate you sticking with me and I appreciate all the

01:09:30.900 support.

01:09:31.340 We'll see you guys tomorrow until then take action and become the man you are meant to

01:09:35.920 be.

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01:09:39.200 You're ready to take charge of your life and be more of the man you were meant to be.

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Order of Man - June 28, 2022

RAY "CASH" CARE ｜ How to Become a Savage Servant

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Order of Man - June 28, 2022

RAY &#x22;CASH&#x22; CARE ｜ How to Become a Savage Servant

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RAY "CASH" CARE ｜ How to Become a Savage Servant