Order of Man - May 14, 2025


Respect Earned vs. Respect Given, Getting Over Failure, & Choosing Your Influence | ASK ME ANYTHING


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 1 minute

Words per Minute

181.53183

Word Count

11,123

Sentence Count

903

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

11


Summary

In this episode, we discuss how to deal with the messes you've made in your life and how to overcome them. We also answer a question from a listener and answer another from a FB group!


Transcript

00:00:00.000 When I look at life right now, I'm like, holy shit.
00:00:03.160 Awesome, Kip, celebrate that.
00:00:05.300 But I don't, I don't as much as I should.
00:00:07.860 And I don't, why?
00:00:08.940 Because it's not good enough.
00:00:09.980 It's never good enough, right?
00:00:11.140 And I got to remind myself, man, life is good.
00:00:15.660 I would have never dreamt of my life.
00:00:17.560 There are people willing to die and have what I have.
00:00:20.480 And yet I'm operating in the space
00:00:22.580 if it's not good enough, right?
00:00:24.640 So for me, it's about being present,
00:00:28.400 being present where I'm at.
00:00:30.000 You're a man of action.
00:00:32.980 You live life to the fullest.
00:00:34.440 Embrace your fears and boldly chart your own path.
00:00:37.380 When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time, every time.
00:00:41.820 You are not easily deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient, strong.
00:00:46.880 This is your life.
00:00:47.980 This is who you are.
00:00:49.280 This is who you will become at the end of the day.
00:00:52.360 And after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man.
00:00:56.100 Kip, man, it feels like a real pleasure.
00:01:00.120 I get to have a conversation with you like this two days in a row.
00:01:03.800 Yeah.
00:01:04.340 And when I say pleasure, I mean miserable.
00:01:06.460 Yeah.
00:01:06.780 And it means also that I have a pretty open schedule.
00:01:09.660 Because usually, you know, there's no way it's like, hey, can you record tomorrow?
00:01:13.620 Usually that's not possible.
00:01:14.680 So, yeah, your schedule, I'm always, I don't know if I'm impressed and envious or feel really
00:01:20.780 sorry for you, but your schedule is always like, can't, got this, can't, got this.
00:01:24.860 And I know you manage your schedule well, but I'm like, oof, that would be rough.
00:01:28.000 For me, it would anyways.
00:01:29.100 Yeah.
00:01:29.580 Well, I mean, it's corporate America, right?
00:01:32.760 Like, you get, you open up your calendar, people can book time with you, and if you're
00:01:38.860 not managing it carefully, it's their time, and you're just executing, which sucks too,
00:01:45.380 right?
00:01:45.820 So.
00:01:46.660 Yeah, for sure.
00:01:48.160 Yeah.
00:01:48.540 But it is what it is, and I'm glad we have this conversation.
00:01:51.000 So we're doing an Ask Me Anything today, so let's just jump right into the questions.
00:01:54.900 Actually, you know what?
00:01:55.500 There was a question we missed from last week, and it was in the Facebook group, and I wanted
00:01:59.140 to address it because it was a really good question.
00:02:00.980 And I can't remember exactly what it said, but the gentleman was talking about, or maybe
00:02:06.860 you can pull it up.
00:02:07.560 Can you pull it up real quick?
00:02:08.520 Yeah, I can pull it up.
00:02:09.040 Or will that take a minute?
00:02:09.660 Yeah.
00:02:09.980 In the meantime, I'll answer another question while you're doing that, and I'm going to
00:02:13.240 pull this one from Instagram.
00:02:16.460 And this is from last week, not this week.
00:02:18.800 Last week.
00:02:19.600 Yeah.
00:02:20.360 I should have told you so you were aware of it, but.
00:02:22.700 No, it's fine.
00:02:24.200 This one comes from Instagram.
00:02:26.860 Now, I didn't say I was going to address these on the podcast, so I'm not going to say names,
00:02:31.620 but I do want to get through these.
00:02:33.680 So the first one is this.
00:02:35.280 I'm seven months sober, finally, 47 years old, struggling lately with how much I've screwed
00:02:40.580 up my life.
00:02:41.340 Do you have any advice?
00:02:43.500 And I can definitely, definitely relate with this question because of some decisions that
00:02:50.440 I made and overcoming alcohol abuse.
00:02:52.520 And it's hard when you feel like you've messed up.
00:02:56.380 You know, there's a lot of guilt and shame and remorse that comes with it.
00:03:00.520 And also, you have to live with the consequences of your decisions.
00:03:03.640 Some of those are short-lived.
00:03:04.900 The consequences are acute, and you deal with them, and you're done.
00:03:08.500 And others could potentially be long-lasting, maybe even for life, depending on the situation.
00:03:14.000 And I don't know your situation, but what I would say to you as far as struggling with
00:03:20.300 the mess-ups that you've made, and we talk about this quite often, is number one, acknowledging
00:03:26.260 the truth behind it, that you have indeed messed up.
00:03:29.540 And then getting very familiar with what ways you've messed up.
00:03:33.840 It's not enough to say, I messed up this way.
00:03:36.160 It's, I hurt this person.
00:03:38.300 I did this thing.
00:03:40.220 I took advantage of somebody in this scenario.
00:03:42.520 But get very, very specific.
00:03:44.080 And that's going to be hard because it's painful when you do that, because now you're opening
00:03:48.660 old wounds and remembering some of the missteps that you've made.
00:03:52.460 I would say number two is apologize where you can.
00:03:57.460 And do it once, and then that's it.
00:04:01.720 And you never have to do it again.
00:04:03.640 I know there's a lot of people out there who feel really sorrowful about things they may
00:04:07.920 have done to other people, and they profusely apologize forever, like all the time.
00:04:14.180 It's like, just say it once.
00:04:15.620 Say what you need to say.
00:04:18.020 Your apology is not contingent on their response or acceptance of the apology.
00:04:23.440 Just say it.
00:04:24.200 Just say what you need to say, and do it right.
00:04:26.360 Even if it's a letter, that might actually be a good exercise, too, is just writing a
00:04:30.560 letter down.
00:04:31.040 If you can't apologize to somebody, maybe they're no longer in your life, or they passed
00:04:35.040 away, or whatever it might be.
00:04:37.280 You don't have access to them.
00:04:38.980 Write a letter out.
00:04:39.800 I'm sorry I did this.
00:04:40.860 I'm sorry.
00:04:41.360 I'm sorry.
00:04:42.200 Here's how it impacted you.
00:04:44.140 Here's how I'm changing my life moving forward, and whatever you need to say.
00:04:47.600 And then earn it.
00:04:49.900 That's all you can do.
00:04:50.860 I actually had a really good call with somebody yesterday that I owed an apology to from two
00:04:57.820 years ago.
00:04:59.360 And it had been weighing on my mind, and so I made the call and offered the apology, and
00:05:06.380 I was very heartfelt and sincere in that.
00:05:08.900 And the other person said, I need a minute to process that.
00:05:13.320 Can I call you later?
00:05:14.840 I said, yeah, absolutely.
00:05:15.480 So we're going to talk in the next day or two, but they were open and receptive to
00:05:21.040 my apology.
00:05:21.660 But even if they weren't, it felt really, really good for me to say it.
00:05:25.480 Yeah.
00:05:26.500 And then the best apology we often hear, well, the last thing I was going to say is the best
00:05:30.340 apology we often hear is changed behavior.
00:05:32.880 So now you're acutely aware of the problems and what you did.
00:05:36.320 You've made amends where you can, and now you change your behavior, and you look at the
00:05:41.840 situation with some level of gratitude, knowing that it stirred a change of heart and a change
00:05:50.380 of action in you.
00:05:51.720 And when you show up in a more powerful way for your family or your kids or at work or
00:05:55.940 in the community, you can be grateful knowing that you would not have done that without the
00:06:01.120 mess up that you were involved in.
00:06:02.740 And in some way you can find some parcel of gratitude for a bad situation.
00:06:11.480 Yeah.
00:06:12.520 Yeah.
00:06:12.920 I love the subject, Ryan.
00:06:14.520 You know, I feel it's critical for us to, for me, to go into those apologize, those apologies
00:06:24.080 with the expectation that they may not receive it.
00:06:27.360 And, and I think we get hung up a lot where we're like, oh, I need to clean this up.
00:06:33.040 And the translation of that is I'm going to resolve it for us.
00:06:37.140 No, you're resolving it for you and what's within your realm of control.
00:06:43.100 And, and, uh, maybe this is me just being overly negative.
00:06:46.600 I would assume they may not accept it.
00:06:50.040 So then that way, if they do.
00:06:51.280 It's better to go into it in that assumption.
00:06:53.560 Absolutely.
00:06:53.960 And then that way I don't have expectation that they're going to forgive me, that they're
00:06:57.980 going, you know, that we're all going to be solid.
00:07:00.140 That's not what the intent is and really let go of that expectation.
00:07:04.440 So then that way it's pure, it's, it's, it's rooted in what you can control and you cleaning
00:07:10.640 up why for you and your integrity and for them, but it's not, but it's not based upon
00:07:18.840 them accepting it.
00:07:20.740 Right.
00:07:21.220 And, and I would say it's for other people too.
00:07:24.320 A lot of the times when you hear about this apology advice and we've even said it, like
00:07:27.500 do it for you and absolutely do it for you.
00:07:29.720 It's, but also you slighted somebody, you hurt somebody, you made a bad decision and it may
00:07:35.880 not make things better, but I could tell in this person's voice yesterday when I was offering
00:07:41.280 this apology that what, what I did impacted them negatively and me apologizing helped them
00:07:52.700 in a small, I could, I could sense it in their voice helps in a small way.
00:07:56.380 And I didn't do it for that, but people deserve that.
00:07:59.980 I think, especially if they were close and in your life.
00:08:02.600 Yeah.
00:08:02.880 And it's your way of serving them, you know, and making amends.
00:08:06.340 What question on Facebook, what would, what did it have to do?
00:08:09.420 There was one about respect, about offering respect or receiving respect.
00:08:14.020 Does that, does that look familiar?
00:08:16.360 It probably was the last one or I can't remember.
00:08:19.100 I can paraphrase if you can't find it.
00:08:23.000 I don't, I'll paraphrase.
00:08:24.800 Yeah.
00:08:25.140 Yeah.
00:08:25.320 I'll paraphrase.
00:08:26.360 Okay.
00:08:26.540 So this gentleman was asking about respect being earned or versus given.
00:08:31.880 And I think if I remember correctly, he had seen a lot of advice out there that says respect
00:08:37.720 has to be earned.
00:08:39.020 But is that true?
00:08:40.240 Because shouldn't you just be respectful?
00:08:42.360 It was a question like that.
00:08:43.900 Yeah.
00:08:44.500 And I thought he made a good point.
00:08:45.760 And I tend to agree with him that yes, respect ought to be earned, but I think as decent
00:08:52.200 human beings, there's a baseline level of respect that we can just give to every single
00:08:57.240 person because they're a human being and they're worthy of some baseline level of respect.
00:09:01.520 So for example, you know, sometimes I swear, but if I'm at a football game and I'm getting
00:09:09.240 passionate, I really try to refrain from using foul language because there's kids and there's
00:09:14.440 families around now, do I have to know, I suppose I don't have to, but those people, even though
00:09:20.980 I don't know them at all, and they might even be horrible people, I'm just going to go ahead
00:09:26.520 and assume that they deserve a baseline level of respect because they're existing and I'm
00:09:30.900 existing with them.
00:09:32.940 If, if Kip, you and I are strangers and we meet at a business function, of course, I'm going
00:09:39.520 to give you a baseline level of respect until you prove to me otherwise. Now I'm not going to trust
00:09:45.080 you. I'm not going to say, Hey, will you babysit my kids this weekend? But I might say, Hey, you
00:09:51.560 know what? We're pretty aligned in our business. Um, I respect what you've said. I respect how you
00:09:56.300 show up. I respect the information you've given me. Can, can we go to lunch and maybe talk more
00:09:59.720 about this? I can give you and afford you that level of respect. Now, if you don't show up to my,
00:10:05.060 till the lunch meeting, okay, you diminish the baseline level of respect that I afforded you.
00:10:10.620 So it still is a choice, but above and beyond that, yes, respect has to be earned. And I think
00:10:15.540 that's the balance baseline level versus above and beyond. Well, and I, I like to approach this
00:10:20.840 from the perspective of what's effective, you know, and a lot of us, we were in a position of
00:10:30.020 influence. So are you going to give people respect or no respect? Well, if you give them no respect,
00:10:36.620 how's, how does that affect your ability to influence them? It diminishes it. Is that what
00:10:42.020 you want? Is that what you don't want? Right? Like I don't think it's an answer of black and white,
00:10:47.120 right? Uh, do you feel earn it or not? Do you want to influence them? Because I know for sure that if
00:10:53.760 some stranger doesn't show me a level of respect, they're inviting something else from me,
00:10:59.740 not mutual respect. They're inviting me to be an asshole if they're going to be an asshole to me.
00:11:05.480 Right? So like, just look at it and is it serving you or not? And, and I think, and I'm not putting
00:11:13.320 this guy in blast, but like often when I hear this is like, well, you know, I'm not a very trust,
00:11:17.360 people have got to earn my trust first. Okay. Who's that about? Oh, it's about your ego.
00:11:22.780 Got it. Right. It's about you stroking your ego, not about like the effectiveness of the
00:11:29.100 relationship and your ability to influence people. That's a different conversation than
00:11:32.940 you got to earn my respect or you got to earn my trust. Understand the human condition a little bit.
00:11:39.960 Well, and when people say that, like they have to earn my respect, it's like, well,
00:11:42.700 what are you asking them to do? Totally. They don't know. Are you asking them to perform brain
00:11:47.940 surgery this afternoon on you? And in that case I'd say, yeah, the doctor needs to earn my
00:11:52.760 respect, but it's like, what in the world are you? I'm just talking to you. Like there's no
00:11:58.540 expectations that I'm asking about your day or your work or whatever. Like I, you don't need to
00:12:04.060 earn that from me. I'll just give that to you because you're a human being. Yeah. Just to
00:12:08.200 understand how people will react to. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you brought up a good point about influence.
00:12:13.620 You said, do you want to be influential? And this is an exercise I've talked about with my kids,
00:12:17.320 but I also talk about it when we do events. I asked this question, do you get to decide if you
00:12:23.600 influence people in your life? And there's a large majority of people who will raise their hands and
00:12:29.560 say, yes, I get to decide. And that's wrong. You actually don't get to decide if you're influential
00:12:35.600 in people's life. The only thing you get to decide is how you're influential. Yeah. So if,
00:12:41.880 if you and I meet for the first time and I'm a total dick to you, oh, I'm definitely influencing
00:12:48.420 you, but not in a way that's going to be beneficial or advantageous to me or you. Yeah. If I, if my
00:12:55.740 kids see me doing crazy things, flying off the rails at sports games or in public or letting go of
00:13:01.840 myself, I'm definitely influencing them, not in a very positive and constructive way. So if you're going
00:13:08.660 to be influential with everybody you come in contact with, like I was at the gym this morning,
00:13:12.720 I was walking out and this lady, she was walking out in front of me and she held the door and I said,
00:13:17.780 thank you. And then there was another door and she held it. And then there's a third door to get out.
00:13:21.280 And she held that. I'm like, thanks. Three door three. You held the door for three, three times for
00:13:25.760 me today. Or I said something and she laughed. That was just a minor little, and you know what?
00:13:31.800 She's going to think better of me at the gym next time. And I think better of her for, for what?
00:13:37.540 For holding the door for me and just, but you are influential and that's what you need to realize.
00:13:42.160 You're always influential and somebody always sees what you're doing. Yeah. I love it. Okay. Um,
00:13:48.960 Gavin Masurly, my 13 year old boy seems to be dealing with some insecurity with his body and weight.
00:13:55.480 Someone told him he's pudgy. So now he's not eating at school and he's wearing hoodies when it's 75
00:14:02.060 degrees outside. I'm doing my best to lead by example, letting him see me work out. What are
00:14:07.120 some other ways to help combat this? He's built like a tank, but genuinely not pudgy.
00:14:14.600 Yeah, this is hard. I actually went through this with my son Brecken and when he was probably about
00:14:21.320 that age, 12, 13, he, he was getting a little pudgy. And I don't remember if somebody said
00:14:27.360 that to him, uh, or if he just recognized it himself, but he did the exact same thing. And
00:14:33.660 I can go through a timeline of pictures and see how skinny he got. Dude is he, it was like a
00:14:40.480 transformational thing. Right. Like I remember one year I saw him the next year. I was like,
00:14:46.800 what the crap. Right. Like just crazy change. It was nuts. Yeah. And it wasn't totally healthy
00:14:53.460 the way that he did it. You know, he, and, and I didn't need to push him. His mom didn't need to
00:14:58.380 push him. It was on him. I mean, part of it is your son's going to go through puberty, Gavin. Like
00:15:02.840 if he's not already, he's prepubescent right now, he's going to get through puberty. He's going to lose
00:15:08.020 some of that baby fat. Um, he's going to get tall and stretch out like that's going to happen.
00:15:14.380 But I would talk to him about how he feels about himself. Are you doing this for the approval of
00:15:21.640 other people? Or are you doing this because you don't feel comfortable with how you look and you'd
00:15:26.620 like to be healthier? Yeah. And that was the decision I think Brecken made is it wasn't about
00:15:32.060 what other people thought. It was an internal decision that he wanted to feel good about himself.
00:15:36.640 Yeah. And he did take it to the extreme. And, and it sounds like Gavin, your son is doing that as
00:15:42.880 well. So that's hard. But when you're making new behavioral changes, we tend to take them to the
00:15:50.860 extreme because we don't know how to balance it correctly. So I'm not going to say that he shouldn't
00:15:57.720 do that or he should do that. But what I would encourage him to do is to do it in a very healthy
00:16:03.540 way because getting lean and getting strong and getting fit. That's not a bad thing at all. That's
00:16:09.400 a great thing. And if you're modeling that for him, you're inviting him to work out with, with you.
00:16:15.760 You're going to work out with him in the way that he likes. Maybe he doesn't want to work out. Maybe
00:16:19.520 he wants to play basketball. Cool. We can go play basketball. That's a great workout. So get involved
00:16:25.100 in his world the way that he wants to do it. And as he takes it to the extreme of like not eating at
00:16:29.760 school, it's your job as a father to say, Hey, we're, we are going to eat like you're definitely
00:16:34.460 going to eat, but let's you and I come up with a meal choice and we'll do some meal planning
00:16:39.060 on Sunday. And then that way at school, instead of eating at the cafeteria, you bring your own
00:16:45.220 lunch, but it's chicken and rice and broccoli and water or at the cafeteria. What are the food
00:16:50.840 choices? Okay. Which choices should you make? And just help him navigate doing what I think
00:16:56.360 is a good and healthy thing. Just taken to the extreme. Yeah, absolutely. I mean,
00:17:02.160 what do most parents respond in this circumstance, right? Like most parents would be like, Oh no,
00:17:09.960 you're fine. You're perfect. Yeah. You'll brush it off. You're okay. And it's like, you just
00:17:16.480 invalidated how they feel and you lie to them. The reality of it is he might be pudgy, right? And
00:17:24.540 he may not like it period. So, okay, got it. You, you, you want to be more in shape. You want to be
00:17:31.940 stronger or whatever. How do we do it? And just get in the trenches with him. Hey, not eating. You
00:17:37.980 know, your body actually needs fuel. You want to get stronger. You want to burn calories. It's
00:17:43.420 actually, you need to eat. So let's, let me show you how that's done. Right. And, and, and I, man,
00:17:49.120 it, it could be a great thing. And anybody listening, this isn't just about weight. This
00:17:54.080 could be anything, you know, I, you know, a kid gets triggered with, I don't like the way I look
00:17:59.940 like how I dress or, um, you know, them navigating, let's be frank, navigating identity crisis. Who am I?
00:18:08.980 Am I a skater? Am I a punk rock kid? Am I a jock? I don't want to be one anymore. I want to be,
00:18:15.880 I want to dress and look like this. Okay. Why? And, and what are the dangers of just seeking
00:18:22.920 external validation and be careful with that. But, but what do you think it looks like? And
00:18:29.220 how do we do this in a healthy way? And just, I wouldn't demonize anything. And I would just
00:18:35.640 navigate the landscape of what this is with them, because this won't be the last time
00:18:41.480 and it's going to come up again. Good point. Other areas of life show up this way, right? We
00:18:47.960 get a trigger, an external thing that makes us self-evaluate. How do we navigate those
00:18:54.220 situations? And what an awesome opportunity you have, Gavin, to, to start on this path of helping
00:18:59.920 your son navigate this world. I, I, I liked what you said about what do most parents do? Like,
00:19:06.720 no, brush it off. Not only did you invalidate, but this goes to what you said on the podcast
00:19:10.600 yesterday about being a rescuer. Yeah. You can't rescue your kids that way because if you do,
00:19:17.200 that's like, it's the equivalent of these people who go on these singing shows and talent shows
00:19:21.860 and they get up there to sing or do their talent. And the judges say, you're horrible. And it cripples
00:19:27.640 them. It crushes them because have they never heard anybody say the truth to them? And who is the
00:19:34.980 one that loves most? The one who says the truth or the one who discloses the truth because they don't
00:19:41.140 want to feel uncomfortable? Do you love your children enough or your partner enough or your
00:19:46.340 clients enough to say the truth? You know, I remember, I remember when I was doing financial
00:19:51.300 planning, you know, we were taught to tell people like, Hey, look, you're not in a good situation.
00:19:56.940 Like, I think you think that you are, but let's paint this scenario a little bit and actually show you
00:20:02.100 why you've got some real gaps and dangers that you're oblivious to. And it would be the same
00:20:08.040 thing to your kids or to your wife or whoever you happen to be dealing with. You got to, you got to
00:20:13.100 put this clip in the show notes or something. Have you seen the one where it's like a family member
00:20:19.840 sitting outside the garage and they're all hanging tight and the mom points to the side. She's like,
00:20:25.040 that kid right there, he's going to be an athlete. And then someone chucks him a ball and
00:20:29.940 it, and he can't catch it. It just whacks him right in the face. And you're like,
00:20:33.740 but to your point, why did the mom say it? All because it validates her, her, that son right
00:20:41.340 there. He's going to be an athlete. AKA he makes me look good. Selfish, selfish. I've read, I read,
00:20:49.160 I was reading a book around this. They say, never tell your kid how talented they are.
00:20:54.600 Never tell your kid how talented they are. Celebrate their work ethic instead.
00:21:00.720 Work ethic. Yeah. And I honestly believe that Asia and I, we did a disservice to my son,
00:21:07.900 Kyabe in this category. When he was younger, just natural athlete. This kid was just crazy. And we
00:21:16.020 tell him all the time, oh, you're so talented. You're so athletic. You're so talented. And then
00:21:21.620 eventually, right? What happened? Other kids started catching up to him, but he didn't have
00:21:27.240 the work ethic. And all of a sudden other kids were getting better than him because we were celebrating
00:21:33.880 him just being perfect without effort. Yeah. And I think we actually did him a disservice. And all
00:21:41.440 of a sudden he's like, oh, got it. It's the work I got to put in. You know what I mean? And then we
00:21:47.860 changed our tune a little bit, but man, be careful. Be careful how we set our kids up.
00:21:52.920 Well, even for yourself, like don't build your identity on this, in a glass house where it's,
00:21:58.720 or on a sandy foundation where it's so fragile that any little thing could completely cripple you
00:22:04.940 and your identity because of what you wrapped it up in, you know, and you having a lot of money or
00:22:11.260 being attractive or having a particular talent or a skillset that could be ripped away from you
00:22:20.020 in a second today. And you can't change it. And if your identity was in that or work, even your work,
00:22:25.160 if your identity was in that, or even, even being a father or a, or a husband, which are noble things.
00:22:32.900 But if your identity is completely wrapped up in that, that stuff goes away. Yeah. You know,
00:22:38.200 I hate to be morbid, but children pass away, children grow up and they get older and they
00:22:43.400 move out to college. People go through divorces like that stuff goes away. You retire. You're no
00:22:49.700 longer active military. You're no longer a police officer. All these things that you used to validate
00:22:55.700 yourself, right? They can change. Yeah. Yeah. Raul Guterres, will either of you gents be attending the,
00:23:04.540 uh, the May 31st Bedros Cooley and live event in Anaheim, California? Uh, no, I won't. I, and that
00:23:13.520 came across like harsh, like, no, I will not like Bedros and I are friends. So I hope it didn't come
00:23:17.460 across. Absolutely not. You, in fact, if you go, you tell Bedros. So that might've come out different
00:23:25.840 than the way I intended. I was just saying, no, I'm not planning on attending. Bedros though is
00:23:30.580 phenomenal. And you know what? Stud. He deserves a little credit and I'll tell you why. When years
00:23:35.840 ago I was going through the alcohol abuse and, and the looming divorce, I called a handful of people.
00:23:42.180 You were one of them, a few others. And I called Bedros cause he's a friend of mine. And I was a
00:23:47.600 little nervous about calling Bedros cause he's a high performer. He, that's his, he coaches high
00:23:52.820 performance. He holds people accountable, but he was a friend of mine. And I thought he could offer
00:23:57.060 some insight or some, some feedback. And that guy stood by me more than just about anybody else.
00:24:04.400 He didn't judge. He was there. He was supportive. He encouraged me to change my behaviors in a
00:24:10.400 constructive, powerful way, but he never made me feel like a piece of crap or less than or
00:24:17.440 unimportant, or you're not worth anything because you screwed up anymore. And I got to give a shout out
00:24:22.480 to, to Bedros and I've brought my sons to live events that he's done and boot camps that he's
00:24:27.220 done and the squire program he does with young boys. And I just love that guy. So I want to set
00:24:32.640 the record straight because the way I initially said it made it sound like I didn't feel that way,
00:24:36.860 but that's how I feel about B. Yeah. Yeah. He's a, he's a stud. All right. Edward Simmons. I'm just
00:24:44.160 starting the gap in a game and the concept really hits home. I've spent a lot of my life in the gap
00:24:49.560 and always comparing and measuring against where I thought I should be. While I can see how this has
00:24:54.760 led me, uh, held me back. I also feel like it has pushed me to succeed in ways. My question,
00:25:01.480 how do you stay out of the comparison trap and stay motivated to grow and push forward? And I'm
00:25:07.180 assuming I'd add to Edward's questions, like how do I stay out of comparison and motivated, but
00:25:13.200 still succeed, right? So how do I operate in the gain and be successful knowing that the gap has
00:25:22.120 kind of helped us succeed in certain areas, right? The gap is not a bad thing. It's, it's all just in
00:25:29.040 moderation. It's okay to recognize where you fall short. It's okay to have desires and dreams and
00:25:35.000 goals and ambitions. It's when it becomes toxic. You know, there's, there's a point in time where even
00:25:40.960 water, something all of us would say is good for you becomes toxic and maybe even life-threatening
00:25:45.780 taken in high quantities, right? Totally. Yep. And I think it's the same thing with, with the,
00:25:51.480 the gap, you know, it's, it's okay to acknowledge it, but if it begins to demoralize you or put you
00:25:58.020 down or make you feel less than, uh, or cause procrastination or making yourself feel like you're
00:26:05.600 a loser and then, okay, now, you know, it's toxic levels. Yeah. And the way that I've avoided
00:26:12.080 personally, the comparison trap, and I, I should distinguish, it's okay to compare yourself to where
00:26:23.460 other people are, as long as it doesn't impact your worth as a human being. Yeah. So if I see you
00:26:30.080 performing Kip at a very high level in jujitsu, for example, I can compare my game to yours. You're,
00:26:37.860 you're better at jujitsu than I am. That doesn't demoralize me. It doesn't make me feel bad about
00:26:42.520 myself. It doesn't make me want to quit jujitsu. Like it just means he's better. He's been doing it
00:26:47.780 longer. And this is, this is why, and what can I learn from him? Now there are other scenarios and
00:26:55.220 situations and even people that I fall into this comparison trap for whatever reason I just do.
00:27:01.320 And it becomes toxic. And I wish that I had what they had and I become envious and jealous. And
00:27:06.960 those people, I purge that from my life. Actually, I unfollow their accounts. I don't connect with them.
00:27:13.740 I don't think less of them, but for whatever reason, there's something in it that triggers me
00:27:18.280 to compare myself to them in an unhealthy way. And I just eliminate that from my life. I've blocked so
00:27:24.480 not blocked, but unfollowed so many accounts, unsubscribed from so many emails, stop listening
00:27:29.740 to so many podcasts, stop going to certain conferences, because for whatever reason,
00:27:35.100 those people trigger a negative comparison trap for me. And I just don't want to deal with it.
00:27:41.560 So I look to people that edify me, uplift me, like, like Bedros, like we were talking about.
00:27:46.740 He's significantly farther down the track than I am on just about every metric. It's not demeaning,
00:27:52.760 demoralizing. It's just, he is, and I'm still continuing to be motivated by him, which is why
00:27:57.920 we're still in touch. You know, for, for me, Edward, I think the biggest thing around this,
00:28:03.660 this topic that I struggle with is I'm just ungrateful. I mean, that's, that's the main thing
00:28:12.260 is like, I get wrapped up in the gap of the way it should be or where I should be that I forget where
00:28:17.440 I'm at. You know, and I, I go back 20 years of my life that I would have never dreamed that I'd be
00:28:28.940 where I'm at. And it's not that like, I'm so amazing. It's, I didn't even think that was possible
00:28:34.460 for me. It wasn't even on my radar. I mean, I was raised in a, in a family that going to college
00:28:42.580 wasn't even a thought. And it wasn't a thought because I thought that's what rich people did.
00:28:48.140 I didn't even think I could. And it wasn't until a Hail Mary, you know, a couple months towards the
00:28:54.500 end of high school when I'm asking her, my friends like, Hey, what are you doing? I'm going to college.
00:28:58.400 What are you doing? I'm going to college. I'm thinking, man, that sucks. And then someone said
00:29:04.020 to me, you could go to college. And I'm like, Oh, I don't have the money. No, there's like loans and
00:29:09.160 all kinds of things. And I'm like, what? Like, it's seriously, it's so crazy to think in retrospect.
00:29:15.860 And, but like, I just didn't even think that was possible. Like my life was, I'm going to probably
00:29:22.280 work on a farm doing labor work because that's my lot. That's what I honestly thought. So when I look
00:29:32.100 at life right now, I'm like, Holy shit, like awesome. Kip celebrate that. But I don't,
00:29:38.760 I don't as much as I should. And I don't, why? Because it's not good enough. It's never good
00:29:43.120 enough. Right. And, and I got to remind myself, man, life is good. I would have never dreamt of
00:29:50.960 my life. There are people willing to die and have what I have. And yet I'm operating in the space of
00:29:57.340 it's not good enough. Right. So for me, it's, it's about being present, being present where I'm at.
00:30:06.140 And, and I've heard you, I'm still in this from you, Ryan, the comparison trap is often a comparison
00:30:11.680 of where they are, where we think we should be. And I think we just need to dig a little bit deeper
00:30:17.100 and say, okay, well, if I want to be there, why, or why are they there? Okay, God, they got reps and
00:30:22.840 all these other things. Right. And that's not an intrinsic value thing between me and them. It's
00:30:28.200 they put in the reps or they paid a price that I haven't paid or that I may not be willing to pay
00:30:36.440 unwilling to pay. And it's really important to get clear there. Am I willing to, am I willing to do
00:30:43.880 what they've done? And I may not want to. So I better let that go. Otherwise I'm dragging myself
00:30:50.280 through what should be for no reason, because I've gotten really clear that I'm not willing to do what
00:30:56.720 they've done. And that's okay. That's why I think by default, it's never a good idea to discount
00:31:04.900 somebody's success. Oh, this person just knew the right person. This person came from financial
00:31:11.400 acumen or background or wealth. Um, this person has more connections. This person was in the right
00:31:16.700 place at the right time. Oh, if I had his situation or I didn't have this that I was dealing with,
00:31:21.680 and I was, you know, the Midas touch that everything I touched turned to gold, then,
00:31:26.660 you know, then I would be successful. The problem with that is you're discounting what that individual
00:31:31.780 did to get there. And it makes you believe that you just haven't been dubbed or tapped on the shoulder
00:31:36.460 for success. And yeah, sometimes people get lucky. Sometimes fortunate events happen.
00:31:44.160 Sometimes people are in the right place at the right time. That's few and far between. And even if they
00:31:49.860 are at the right place at the right time, they still have to be in the position to capitalize on
00:31:53.700 it. Yeah. There's an interesting concept that came across just the other day. I was listening to
00:31:58.600 a book or a podcast. I can't even remember where I heard it, but they said, you know,
00:32:02.560 it's interesting when we compare, who do we compare ourselves to people who are perceived better than us,
00:32:08.660 but you never compared down. That is so true. That's funny. Isn't that wild? It hit me. I was like,
00:32:15.600 that's true. We always say, well, that guy has a bigger house. That guy has a better looking wife.
00:32:20.600 That guy has more money. That guy has abs. That guy has a business, but we never look at the
00:32:25.980 neighbor who were like, Hey, that guy's really struggling. Or if you've got a cell phone, a
00:32:30.880 supercomputer in your pocket, I mean, the percentage of people who don't have access to clean water in
00:32:37.560 the world is mind boggling to me. And so if you have clean water and electricity, my fans blowing
00:32:44.220 right now, the AC is at the perfect temperature, 68 degrees in my house. I've got this supercomputer
00:32:49.480 that makes me a cyborg. I've got the ability to communicate ideas. I'm fairly intelligent. That's
00:32:56.700 subject for debate, you know, for some people. Um, I've got kids, my dog's chilling right here.
00:33:02.260 The mortgage is paid. Your health. Yeah. Yeah. And yet, you know, Kip, we've had conversations in
00:33:07.520 the past several weeks, months where it's like, this isn't going good in my life. And it might be true,
00:33:14.020 but there's a lot of good things happening too. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Nick Kota, our battle team
00:33:22.340 had two guys go to the last men's event and both raved about it. Are you planning on having another
00:33:28.440 men's event this year or next? What would, what would you do differently for the next event?
00:33:33.380 Yeah. So, um, we are doing, excuse me, we are doing another event. Uh, it's called the men's forge
00:33:41.620 is what it's called. And, uh, Larry Hagner with the dad edge and myself partnered up. This is the
00:33:46.440 first time we've ever officially partnered up. We've been friends for a long time. It's interesting
00:33:50.620 because by any objective standard, you could say we are competitors, but I've never really looked at
00:33:57.620 it that way. Um, Larry brings a lot of value into my life. He shares a lot of ideas and I hope I bring
00:34:03.500 a lot of value and share ideas with him. I hope he would say the same thing. So we decided to partner
00:34:08.000 up and man, everything that could have went wrong, went wrong. Speakers dropped out, business partnerships
00:34:14.680 didn't work. Uh, yeah. Leading up to it. Uh, we had fewer people attend than we thought we were worried
00:34:20.340 about the contract that we had signed. Cause we had fewer people. Larry ended up tearing his patella tendon
00:34:26.540 or something. I can't remember exactly. I thought it was his ACL or MCL, but it's like the patella tendon
00:34:31.060 or ligament. I don't know. He's got to go in for surgery. Like there's a lot of things that went wrong
00:34:36.560 and yet it was probably, it was, it was my favorite event. It was so good. We had 50 guys just outside
00:34:43.800 of St. Louis on this working ranch with bison and elk and fallow deer and longhorns. And then it's a
00:34:51.220 Christian youth camp. So I want you to imagine 50 men in an environment that is somewhat like a
00:35:01.980 traditional conference that you'd go to mixed with boy scout camp where we can actually go learn
00:35:09.000 from each other. We can hear from powerful presenters, Keith Yackey, the married game,
00:35:14.280 Sathia Sam, uh, Brandon Mancine. These guys performed so well on stage, so much value from those
00:35:20.700 guys. Um, and then we had other activities. We all ate together every night. Uh, we trained a little
00:35:26.940 jujitsu. I didn't tell you this one morning. Yeah. We're in a cabin. Did you see it? Yeah. You guys
00:35:33.040 like laid down mattresses from the bed and had a training session. It was like a, like a day. We're
00:35:39.380 all just like, let's go. And there was on these four King size, California King size mattresses.
00:35:44.540 There was like 10 people at a time. We're bumping into each other, kicking each other in the face.
00:35:48.240 Yeah. Um, ropes courses, they've got a pistol course next year. So I don't know what we're
00:35:53.560 going to change necessarily because it was really good. Um, there's fire sides in a big, huge fire
00:36:00.020 pit. Like it was, it was awesome. The only thing that we're going to change, we're going to have
00:36:03.620 more people there next year. Yeah. And so that's more lives. That's the men's forge.com. The dates
00:36:09.860 are actually posted on the website already and you can register. Yeah. So yeah. April 23rd through
00:36:14.640 the 26th of next year. Excellent. Dalton Howard, what would you say are some of the most important
00:36:20.420 things to keep in mind when starting a business? In your opinion is the part that I wasn't going to
00:36:26.420 read, but that's a given. Okay. Um, first is because you're good at the thing doesn't mean you're a good
00:36:33.220 business owner. That is the, that is the premise of E-myth. So if you haven't read E-myth
00:36:39.280 Revisited, go and read that first. It's great. Because if you're good at plumbing, doesn't mean
00:36:44.260 you're going to own, uh, run a great plumbing company. Or if you're good at skill, web design.
00:36:50.380 Yeah. It's a different skill. So what I would suggest is learn the other skills and the other
00:36:55.940 skills are marketing, accounting, bookkeeping, um, business management, managing other people,
00:37:03.860 changing, changing your, your, um, tax structure. Cause now you're a business, you're no longer an
00:37:09.760 employee. So learning the tax ramifications of that, bringing the right team, the legalities,
00:37:15.080 the liabilities, the insurances, like the balance of it all. Yeah. Like do all that. Don't sell too
00:37:23.260 much and not deliver. Cause then you lose clients. Don't focus on delivery, not sell. Cause then you'll
00:37:28.740 have no work next month. I mean, I struggle with this. Oh, I was going to ask you really quick.
00:37:36.340 Yeah, go ahead. I think social media and online, everyone glorifies entrepreneurship,
00:37:41.380 right? Like, and it's funny because I get so much reels and it's everyone selling a thing about
00:37:47.360 being your own boss and entrepreneur. And I'm like, I actually don't think it's for everybody.
00:37:53.800 And, and it's miserable sometimes, right? Like I, I, in fact, I was thinking about this this morning.
00:38:01.560 I'm like, it's not until you're in a position where you're, where you're confronted with pay my
00:38:08.180 employees or pay my mortgage. What should I do until you experience that? You're like,
00:38:16.020 you're not an entrepreneur. You have no idea. And it's tough. And, and, and here's the crazy part.
00:38:23.480 And I read this quote at how, who was it? That was, uh, I already forgot who said it, but it was,
00:38:28.180 is this great quote. It says, the thing about entrepreneurship is most people going into it
00:38:33.940 know it's really, really hard and it ends up even being harder than they thought.
00:38:39.740 Yeah. So it's true. I, I've, I think entrepreneurial entrepreneurship is 90% horrible
00:38:47.820 and, and 10% of it makes up for the 90% when it happens, when it happens. Yeah. Right. So you have
00:38:57.460 like a successful event that we just talked about. 90% of that was unsuccessful in every sense of the
00:39:05.120 word, but the 10% that was successful made up for it. But there were a lot of sleepless nights. There
00:39:10.940 were a lot of negotiating contracts. There were a lot of really difficult conversations with potential
00:39:16.400 business partners. Like it's, it was not fun. I, a couple of days ago, I went to my accountant and
00:39:24.060 sat down with him about tax liability and that's not fun, but the 10% to me makes it worth it. So
00:39:31.760 you really have to consider that. So learn, learn the business side of, of the business. That's what
00:39:36.420 I would say. And then the other thing is be a good marketer, learn how to like, you can hire people
00:39:43.040 to do your taxes. You can hire, you can buy insurance to cover your liability. You can put
00:39:48.420 contracts in place by credible lawyers. You can hire marketing firms, I guess too, but unless you
00:39:56.680 know how to market your service and promote it and pitch it and share it and get people excited about it
00:40:03.380 and passionate about it, you're not a business because there's nothing that you might have something
00:40:08.600 to sell, but you don't have anybody to sell it to. So it doesn't matter how good your service is or
00:40:13.360 your widget or your product or your this or your that. If nobody sees it or nobody likes it, then you
00:40:20.700 have nothing. Yeah. So spend some time, invest in some social media courses, buy some books.
00:40:29.820 What book would you recommend? What's his name? Russell Brunson. Russell Brunson. Is that the
00:40:34.140 ClickFunnels guy? I don't know. I think that's his name. He's got some really good stuff. I always mix
00:40:40.460 him up and Russell Brand. Let me see. Let me make sure. Yeah. Russell Brand's the actor, but Russell
00:40:49.260 Brunson is the ClickFunnels guy. He's got some really good books on generating leads and sales through
00:40:56.340 digital marketing. I would definitely turn there and then just follow people you like and mimic.
00:41:02.900 Yeah. I wouldn't say copy, but borrow ideas and concepts. I like this. I like that. Let me do it
00:41:09.740 this way. And then just start sharing. Totally. You can't really find your voice until you start
00:41:15.860 speaking. It would be like asking a child when their very first word should be a perfectly formed,
00:41:22.460 coherent sentence. It's not how it works. They make noises and they mess words up and they don't know how to
00:41:30.700 say words and we laugh and, but they keep doing it and keep doing it. And then finally they get
00:41:34.880 pronunciation down and they get sentence structure down and they can clearly communicate instead of
00:41:39.320 crying. It's the same thing with marketing is you don't get to have your voice until you develop your
00:41:45.620 voice. So you have to start sharing. Totally. And I think tied to that is focus on minimal viable
00:41:53.180 product, not perfection. Otherwise you won't ever get started. You won't put stuff out. You'll wait
00:41:58.480 until, I mean, and I'm not saying do subpar work, do your best, but also don't procrastinate it and,
00:42:05.460 and wait too long. You know, test out the waters, see if there's momentum. We talked about this
00:42:12.800 yesterday and I think it's critical is have a tax strategy part of this too, right? Like it's crazy
00:42:20.420 to me how often there's like small business owners and they're paying themselves a full W-2 salary.
00:42:26.980 And I'm like, why are you even an entrepreneur then? I mean, that's the benefit of being an
00:42:33.960 entrepreneur is the tax strategy. And if you're not have a tax strategy, what are you doing? You
00:42:39.620 might as well be working for someone else. So yeah, because it's way easier if you're not getting any
00:42:44.700 benefits. Yeah. But you're going to pay, you're going to pay less payroll taxes, social security
00:42:48.600 taxes. If you don't know what that is, figure it out, like hire an accountant and say, Hey, I need help
00:42:53.180 with this. Yeah. Absolutely. You know, you said something funny. It's like, uh, Asia used to always
00:42:59.080 say, she says, uh, when Kip worked for himself, it was, it was, we were the richest people and the
00:43:05.620 poorest people constantly. And that's how it felt, right? One minute we're like, woohoo, we've made it
00:43:14.140 next month. Crap. We're poor. You know, it was just, Oh my gosh. The thing that's hard to me is,
00:43:22.480 is that you have, like, you look at your, your income for the year and you're like, Whoa,
00:43:29.600 I made a lot of money. Yeah. And then you look at your bank account and you're like, where is all
00:43:35.320 that money? And you gave 30% of it to the government and 30% of it to employees and costs of
00:43:44.220 managing the day-to-day operations. And 15% of it went to, uh, servicing debt, you know, credit cards,
00:43:53.120 business loans, maybe there's a business partner. And then congratulations, you made a million dollars.
00:43:58.040 Here's $80,000 for you and your family. Gee, thanks. That's amazing.
00:44:03.420 Oh, and I laugh because it's so true. Like I, in fact, and I'm not putting you on the spot,
00:44:08.560 but like when you were talking about the amazing event, right? You're like, Oh, we had all these
00:44:12.120 hardships and we had this great event. Right. And then there's the like post event where you're
00:44:16.740 like, that event was so great. How much money do you make? Well, that's not cost effective. Yeah.
00:44:22.440 You're like, awesome. Great event, but bad business maybe, you know, if, if the margins aren't there.
00:44:29.520 So it's like, Oh man, they were fortunately for us. Cause I've done it for 10 years, but I'll tell
00:44:33.980 you what the first and, and our event coordinator, Chris Gatchko can attest to this. The first three
00:44:39.300 or four events, we lost money. Yeah. And we still, and we kept doing them cause we're dumb,
00:44:45.220 dumb enough to succeed. Bad business. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. All right. Brad Letterman,
00:44:52.280 my 12 year old son has, has out of bass, a baseball tournament this weekend with a game Friday and two
00:44:59.700 on Saturday, pending on how they do. Uh, there is a potential for a championship game on Sunday.
00:45:05.840 My wife soon to be X is not sports minded at all and has made plans with the kids and her aunt for
00:45:12.320 that Sunday, knowing of said tournament and the States that our son wants to partake in,
00:45:18.340 in the outing. Do I push the issue with her that he needs to follow through with the commitments and
00:45:24.380 be there for his team? How old's the son? 12. And you won't know the answer to this, but you have
00:45:33.460 to question whether or not she did it deliberately and intentionally. Yeah. So the first question I
00:45:39.580 would pose to who this was is, have you talked with her about it? Yeah. Because right now it could
00:45:47.200 just be a lot of assumptions. Like she did this on purpose. She's trying to undermine me. She doesn't
00:45:52.140 appreciate sports. So they're doing a picnic in the park or whatever. And you, but you don't really
00:45:57.400 know unless you talk with her and you might even not know even after you talk with her, especially
00:46:02.260 if there's some contention and it sounds like there is. Yeah. And she might, she might be the realist
00:46:06.900 here, Brad, because, uh, you know, they don't have a Sunday game unless they go to the championship and
00:46:11.360 they haven't won a game all year. And so she's like, they're not, they're not playing Sunday and you're
00:46:16.640 still wishing that a little Timmy's going to, uh, win the show. I mean, look, you're asking for my
00:46:23.980 opinion on it and he's 12 years old and this is hard because you've got the contention in the
00:46:32.740 relationship. I think I would talk with your soon to be ex and communicate with her in a respectful
00:46:39.800 way, why this is so important and that you would like to take little Timmy to the game. If,
00:46:45.320 if it takes place and that you do the picnic thing or whatever with the rest of the kids in the
00:46:50.860 family, I'll talk with little Timmy about why this is important. And then after the game, I will bring
00:46:56.840 him to the picnic or to wherever so that he can meet up with the family. I think that's the compromise
00:47:02.880 that I would go towards because I think you're right. He's part of the team. You don't get to just
00:47:08.720 bail, especially in a championship game. If you make it because somebody planned poorly toy. So
00:47:15.840 and make it about the lesson and right. And, and, and be, and just try to make it a compromise. And I
00:47:21.480 think there's some compromise there. Look at the end of the day, she might say, no, we're not, this is
00:47:27.440 what we're doing. I don't know. I don't know how contentious it is. And is it something that you have
00:47:33.260 to die on? No, I think you're, I think you try to make the compromise. You try to get your son to do
00:47:38.180 the right thing. You advocate for that. You, you grease the grooves by saying, Hey, I'll pick them
00:47:42.960 up. I'll get them there, but he needs to be there for the team. You talk to him why it's important.
00:47:47.020 And then at that stage, you know, if, if she's refusing to do it, I personally would document that.
00:47:54.480 And I would talk with my attorney about that because these types of decisions with your kids,
00:48:00.140 I think ought to be made by both parents and she needs to learn. Again, I'm making assumptions
00:48:06.100 here, but if she feels this way, she needs to learn that these decisions will be made by both
00:48:11.440 parents. I have to deal with that too. In my situation where she might make a decision and
00:48:16.960 I'm like, I don't agree with that decision. And in the past I might've been a little bit too lenient
00:48:22.340 or let her, uh, make all the decisions because she might feel like quote unquote, the default parent.
00:48:29.040 But what I'm seeing now is no, there's boundaries. And my say as a father is just as important,
00:48:35.380 just as credible and just as relevant as yours as a mother. So we're going to make these decisions
00:48:40.380 together. I'm not going to die on every Hill, but if it's important to you and you think it's
00:48:45.100 important to your son, then you should fight that battle. Absolutely. You should. Absolutely.
00:48:51.680 Those are all the questions from the iron council. Did you have a couple on the Instagram that you
00:48:55.840 want to? I've got a couple here. Um, just for the sake of time, Kip, cause I do have a hard stop
00:48:59.340 today. Let me just, uh, pull up maybe one or two and see how we do here. Okay. So the first question
00:49:05.960 is, um, we talked about the sobriety one. Oh, here's, here's a good one.
00:49:13.680 Um, uh, let me look, I'm trying to pick the best one here.
00:49:22.760 Oh, here's, here's an interesting one. What do you bench?
00:49:28.940 Have you done a PR for a while? I, I did maybe like three or four months ago.
00:49:33.660 And if I remember correctly, I hit two 50 was my, was my bench. Yeah. But I want to get that up into
00:49:42.700 the high two hundreds. If not hit 300 this year, that's my goal. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah,
00:49:48.500 man. I'm always, do you know where you're at? High reps? No, I haven't done a PR. Like I know the,
00:49:54.880 my app probably does a calculated PR based upon rep count and stuff, but yeah, but I don't know.
00:50:00.920 I'd have to look. It's not very high. My bench has never been amazing. It sucks.
00:50:05.660 Mine hasn't either in the past, but I've been really focused on chest, arms, shoulders, back,
00:50:11.700 lats, traps, delts. And my, my growth has been really, really good. That's awesome.
00:50:17.900 Here's another question. The vagina cruncher machine. That's, I just go to the gym. I do that
00:50:23.080 for 30 minutes. The vagina cruncher machine. I think that's actually the official name of it.
00:50:27.160 Actually, it's, it's what they say. Like go over and do the vagina cruncher machine.
00:50:32.840 God, that is such a weird machine. Like ladies do that machine all the time. And yeah, it's for
00:50:39.380 their glutes. I kind of like, man, that's a vulnerable situation. They, they structure the
00:50:44.260 machine in the right way. So like they put it towards the wall and it's like the, the weights
00:50:49.100 are in front of the front. I'm like, yeah, you can't make eye contact. Yeah. You can't make eye
00:50:55.080 contact with people on that machine. Yeah. I've done, I've done that machine. I actually
00:51:00.880 have, but it's usually on a Sunday when no one's at the gym. Yeah. I've never done that
00:51:06.480 machine. I will. You should try it. I stick with my ass will hurt for a week. Seriously.
00:51:12.080 It's actually a thigh master, this Suzanne Summers or whatever thigh master. That's what I, that's
00:51:16.620 my go-to. You like the shake. What's the shake, the, the shake thing, the shake weight.
00:51:20.920 Yeah. That's yours. Absolutely. I don't never, I'm just going to be crude. I'm not going to go
00:51:25.340 there today. The other, at least there's a video where, you know, like the cable machines
00:51:30.580 and maybe you're doing like on one side, you're doing a row with the weight. And then on the
00:51:36.120 other side of it, directly across from you, the guys may be doing lat pulldowns. Yeah. And
00:51:40.640 there's a video where it's like awkward where the guys do the rows and every time the weight
00:51:44.720 goes up, they look at each other and they're just staring at one guy's doing lat pulldowns.
00:51:48.980 The other guy's doing cables and they're just looking straight into each other's eyes.
00:51:52.000 Yeah. Everybody goes to the gym and works cable machines knows the awkwardness of this. I
00:51:57.480 had a guy that was doing the same thing this morning. I'm doing rows and he's on the lat
00:52:00.560 machines and I pull it up right at the time he does. And we look at each other and we both
00:52:04.320 go turn away real quick. Yeah. Wait until the dude's on the hip thruster or whatever. They
00:52:12.640 just go stand in front. Just make eye contact. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Oh my gosh. It's funny.
00:52:20.640 I'm sorry. That's funny. Uh, what question you got? Last one right here. Okay. Advice of letting go of
00:52:27.100 a girl that is holding you back. How long is too long to keep drying? Um, it's too long.
00:52:34.640 I, I, I'm not trying to be flippant. Yeah. I'm not trying to be flippant about it. Yeah. I think
00:52:42.640 you're, you said, you said she's holding you back. That's what you said. Now, if you're saying, Hey,
00:52:47.700 I'm trying to figure out if this is a fit for us. I'm trying to figure out if we can make this work.
00:52:53.380 I'm trying to figure out if my partner, um, will make changes that I'd like to see or, or that, um,
00:53:01.800 we want to work together and work through issues that we have. If I think of a partner's willing
00:53:07.200 to grow and explore together and continue to work forward, even if it's not ideal,
00:53:14.340 then I think it is worth pursuing. I'm not flipping about relationships. I love being in a relationship,
00:53:21.060 a long-term relationship with one person. And that's just me. So because I love that,
00:53:26.760 I think it's worth pursuing something that is still available, something that's still optional.
00:53:35.420 But I will say if she has proven to you or, or alternatively, you have proven to her
00:53:44.240 that you're not willing to grow or that your goals and objectives and desires don't align,
00:53:49.980 or there are hard stops or boundaries that you aren't willing to jeopardize.
00:53:58.260 You have to make that decision. Just like I would tell a woman, she has to make that decision
00:54:02.400 with a man. And the reality is, is depending on your age, if this is maybe a second relationship
00:54:08.860 or after a divorce or not, the reality is people aren't really going to change all that much.
00:54:14.280 Yeah. You know, they, and maybe she doesn't even think like she's holding you back. It's just that
00:54:21.060 you're on two different tracks. And so it feels like she's holding you back when really she's
00:54:24.720 just on a different track than you. I don't really know the situation, but I do think if you've tried
00:54:29.480 all of these and you've had conversations and you've explained to her what you feel and how you
00:54:34.420 feel about it, and that you want to give it an effort and she's willing to give it an effort
00:54:38.540 and you're both in it, even to the slightest degree, then do it. But if you've already decided,
00:54:44.280 it's probably time, probably time to end the relationship unless you're married.
00:54:50.360 Yeah. And in that case, I'd say, no, work even harder for a little longer. And that would be my
00:54:57.240 default answer. Let me ask you this, Ryan, just really quick. Yeah. When you're sharing, I had
00:55:02.900 this paradigm or this thought that working out, working it out or seeing if it's going to work out
00:55:09.820 is what adjustments am I willing to make to accept her the way she is, is the working out,
00:55:18.620 not I'm waiting for her to change. Do you agree with that approach? Right? Because there's some
00:55:26.700 danger in it, right? It's like, oh, well, you know, she's not quite, you know, I'm hoping that
00:55:30.840 she'll be different. That's going to come up with resentment and all kinds of stuff from her
00:55:34.860 perspective. But if your approach is like, okay, she's this way and I'm working on whether I can
00:55:41.040 accept her exactly the way she is and that's the working out, then that's probably a healthier version
00:55:47.420 of working on it. I would, I would generally agree with that. Yeah. But I'd also leave room
00:55:55.780 for, I'd leave some wiggle room and some caveats in there. Yeah. Yeah. And, and, and like I said,
00:56:01.480 if yes, you should accept her and love her the way that she is. We all want to find partners like
00:56:07.580 that who were like, yeah, that person, I love their flaws. I love their, the things they're good at,
00:56:12.740 you know, and, and I accept the things that I don't particularly agree with or like,
00:56:18.540 and they're not deal breakers. And I think that's fine. That's, we should all want a relationship
00:56:21.860 like that. Yeah. But you also owe it to a person to say, Hey, you know what? Like, I don't like this
00:56:29.900 or this part of our relationship makes me feel this way, or I struggle with this in our relationship
00:56:37.680 relationship because X, Y, and Z. And I wanted to bring this to your attention to see how you feel
00:56:44.700 about it. And she might say, Oh my gosh, I didn't even realize, or, yeah. Oh, that's a minor thing.
00:56:51.440 That bothers you? Yeah. Let me see what I, like, how do we work on it? And man, if she comes to you
00:56:56.540 and says that, I'm like, cool, I'm still in it then. Yeah. Because you love her. Obviously you,
00:57:01.040 if you didn't love her, you wouldn't even ask the question. You had already been done.
00:57:03.440 But if, but if you've already done that and, and she's like, yeah, I'm not changing that even just
00:57:11.500 by her behavior or actions or words, then I think it's probably time to make some tough decisions and
00:57:19.200 they'll be painful for you and for her. Yeah. But, but it also frees, it frees both people. It
00:57:26.240 doesn't feel like that when you're in the middle of it. And it, and depending on the relationship,
00:57:30.180 it could take a really, really long time to feel that way, but it actually is freeing.
00:57:36.220 It's freeing for her. And by the way, the roles could be reversed just as easily, but it's freeing
00:57:41.720 for her because now she can go pursue the things that she wants to pursue and live her life the way
00:57:48.260 that she wants to live her life. And maybe it's less stressful for her. And it also frees you because
00:57:53.680 now you have an opportunity to find somebody who is more aligned with you or doesn't see it the same
00:58:01.440 way or does things differently. And it takes a long way, long time to feel that way. Cause you're so
00:58:07.180 maybe enamored or in love with this person, but eventually it's, it is a good thing in the long
00:58:12.900 run. Yeah. Awesome. Well, I think a couple of call to actions. I mean, we, we talked about the men's
00:58:19.840 forge event coming next year in April. Um, individuals can sign up for that. That's
00:58:25.240 the men's forge.com, uh, to get, learn more and ultimately reserve your spot. The other thing is
00:58:32.600 connect with Ryan on X and Instagram at Ryan Mickler. Um, iron councils closed. We have enrollment
00:58:39.180 opening up next month, about a month. Jeez. Already goes quick. I know another quarter. Um,
00:58:45.480 if you want to learn more about that, that's the iron council.com or order a man.com slash iron
00:58:52.040 council. The other thing too, is you have the battle ready and, and you would recommend people
00:58:57.260 take a look at the battle ready program as well. Yeah. It's just, it's a free program. It's a series
00:59:02.640 of emails that you'll receive over 17 days. Um, excuse me, 17 emails over 30 days. And it's going to walk
00:59:10.020 you through the system that we use for battle planning, creating a, uh, emotionally charged and
00:59:14.800 compelling vision coming up with four different objectives you want to accomplish in the next 90
00:59:19.780 days, the tactics that are going to be required on a daily basis to achieve those objectives,
00:59:24.880 which aligns with your vision. And then making sure you're checking along the way to, to track
00:59:29.820 if you're on, on track or to make pivots and adjustments. And we're going to teach you the
00:59:33.720 system. It's transformative. If I promise you, if you do this, it will change your life. I've had
00:59:39.200 people be critical about it because they've said, cause they've seen some of my own short,
00:59:42.560 short, uh, comings and they've said, well, see your battle plan doesn't work. I'm like,
00:59:47.860 what they don't know is the worst parts of my life are when I'm not doing my battle planning.
00:59:54.740 It's when I'm doing my battle planning that it succeeds. So does that tell us the battle plan
00:59:58.960 doesn't work or does it say I don't work as a human being, which is why I need systems that are
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01:00:09.920 slash battle ready, you can check it out. Excellent. Okay. Okay. Well guys, great
01:00:14.540 questions today. We've got a bunch more from Instagram and I think we have some maybe from
01:00:18.260 Facebook, uh, too, that we'll get to next week. We'll address those. We want to hit all those
01:00:21.920 questions, but I hope we served you. That is our goal ultimately. So, uh, we will be back on Friday
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