Order of Man - Revisiting Your Vision, Reclaiming Your Sovereignty, and The Power of Disruption ｜ ASK ME ANYTHING

00:00:00.000 the mid-season slump, first stop calling it that because you're just placing the expectation that

00:00:05.540 this is just how it goes. So don't, first and foremost, don't do that. It doesn't have to be

00:00:10.360 how it goes. And you're talking about weathering the days. What does weathering the days mean?

00:00:14.980 Maybe the answer is try something new, go on an adventure, pick up a new hobby, go, go play,

00:00:22.020 go, go on a trip, take your family somewhere crazy, do something a little wild. So the answer

00:00:26.440 is not weathering it. The answer is embracing it, enjoying it, living it fully.

00:00:32.600 You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest, embrace your fears, and boldly chart

00:00:37.620 your own path. When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time, every time. You are not

00:00:43.480 easily deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient, strong. This is your life. This is who you are.

00:00:50.660 This is who you will become. At the end of the day, and after all is said and done,

00:00:55.000 you can call yourself a man.

00:01:00.280 Kip, what's up, man? Hey, are you ever going to come home, or are you just going to just,

00:01:04.100 have you just took up residency in Hawaii at this point?

00:01:09.160 Kind of both. Going to church, getting invited to hang out with people.

00:01:14.140 Integration is happening, so we may have dug ourselves too deep.

00:01:19.320 Well, it's not bad, though. I mean, if you're going to be somewhere, and you got to be stuck

00:01:22.160 somewhere and integrate somewhere, I mean, I can't think of a better place than the islands

00:01:26.560 of Hawaii, so it's not a bad place. Everybody else is like, oh, those are rough problems to have.

00:01:32.220 Yeah, totally. You know, it is one of the few places where I can vacation this long, though.

00:01:37.640 We've had this conversation. Usually about four or five days in, I'm like, all right,

00:01:41.300 time to go back home. This is a little bit different, but.

00:01:46.020 Well, I'm going to Alaska later this week. I've never been to Alaska, so I'll be up there for about

00:01:50.540 a week, so I'm very excited about that. Get some deep sea fishing in, get some sightseeing in,

00:01:56.660 hang out with good people, so we're looking forward to having a good time up there.

00:02:01.100 Dude, that would be awesome.

00:02:02.240 Quicker than me.

00:02:02.640 I'm excited. Excited to see your pictures that you post, dude, and hear how it went,

00:02:07.120 because Alaska, I've never been. It's on my list, so.

00:02:10.500 It's going to be the first time, so. Well, good, man. Well, I've got a little bit of a time crunch

00:02:14.960 today, so if we can, let's just jump right into questions from the Iron Council.

00:02:19.240 All right. Sounds great. All right. Chris Henningsen, in regards to your post the other day

00:02:25.040 about being a guest on podcasts, if you could choose five other podcasts to be a guest on,

00:02:30.820 which are they and why that podcast?

00:02:33.080 Oh, yeah. Five. Let me think about five. Obviously, Joe Rogan. I mean, that's kind of a throwaway

00:02:39.640 answer. That's like saying, what is the best book of all time, and you say something other

00:02:43.260 than the Bible. People are like, what about the Bible? It's like, okay. Barring the Bible,

00:02:47.260 okay? We all know that's the answer. That's not what I'm asking. So Joe Rogan is the Bible

00:02:52.860 of podcasts, I guess, is what I'm saying. Sean Ryan, I think, would be another great show.

00:02:57.980 So John Lovell would be a good show. Yeah, I'm going to have to think a little bit more about

00:03:05.800 what would be in the top. I've been on Andy Frisella's show a couple of times, MFCEO,

00:03:10.160 or I was MFCEO. That one's obviously really good. I think the reason I'd want to be on those shows

00:03:16.060 is not only do I really enjoy those guys' messaging and also their ability to podcast well.

00:03:22.020 That's one thing that I think is such an underrated skill. Most people seem to believe that

00:03:27.540 podcasting is easy, and you jump on a call, get behind a mic, in front of a camera, and go.

00:03:34.220 Guys like Joe Rogan, Sean Ryan, they make the conversations look easy. I mean, so easy and

00:03:41.100 seamless. And that's something that people ought to be aware of. If people are asking you for advice

00:03:47.320 over and over again on certain things, it's because they recognize a talent in you. Don't ever discount

00:03:52.940 that. Because a lot of people, what they'll do is they'll write it off. They'll say, oh, no, no, no,

00:03:56.080 that's not a big deal. It is a big deal. You don't think it's a big deal because you have an aptitude

00:04:00.900 for it, but it is a big deal. And usually people who are talented dismiss the talents they have

00:04:06.180 because they think everybody can do it. Another one I think would be good is somebody like Tim Poole

00:04:12.900 or Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, breaking into that political arena a little bit more. Matt Walsh,

00:04:21.660 I would say, is not so politically driven as much as it's culture commentary, which obviously

00:04:26.600 has a lot of overlap with politics. But those would be my five or six. And again, I think it has

00:04:31.480 to do with the caliber of the interviewer and the conversations we've had and also the reach,

00:04:37.640 frankly. You know, it's important that we expand our reach, broaden our reach, get this message out

00:04:42.180 to the masses. And that's the most effective and efficient way to do it when you have and can get

00:04:46.920 in front of a large audience. And it's also an audience of qualified people. And this is a this

00:04:52.920 is an important thing to know when it comes to sales, for example. And I'm trying to think about

00:04:57.120 this through the lens of not only this answer, but how my answer might help other people. When you have

00:05:02.260 a product to sell, whether it's something like Order of Man and the mission and the movement, and you

00:05:06.420 have a message you want to get out there, or you have a widget or a gidget or a gizmo or whatever it

00:05:11.320 might be. You want to get that not only in front of people, you want to get that in front of the

00:05:17.020 right people, the people that have a desire to purchase or own or have that product. So it's not all

00:05:23.980 about the numbers. The numbers are important. But more importantly, are you getting in front of qualified

00:05:28.860 people who are interested in your message or your product or your service?

00:05:33.240 Got it. Got it. Who's your favorite? Who's the top two that you the podcast that you've been on that

00:05:38.180 you're like, that was fun. Like, forget reach and business that you just enjoyed. And you're

00:05:45.660 like, that was a blast. Yeah. Yeah, I would say, you know, I really, gosh, that's tough. I've done

00:05:54.940 I've done so many and so many people have been on my podcast, I would say probably Andy Frisilla

00:06:02.900 was really good. Andy's such a solid human being in real life. He really is. He truly is. And so to

00:06:09.980 be able to sit down with him was a real honor. I've actually been on a show twice was a real honor and

00:06:14.400 just a really cool opportunity to be on. I don't know that I've been I think I've yeah, I have been

00:06:18.900 on John Lovell's show Warrior Poet. And he's as solid as they come. And he's hilarious. Like his humor is

00:06:25.960 hilarious. But he's brilliant. I mean, he's super intelligent. So being on with him another one that

00:06:31.760 media come comes to mind that I haven't been on that's been on mine a couple of times is Jason

00:06:35.580 Wilson. He wrote the book The Man the Moment Demands. Not that it was like the funnest episode ever, but

00:06:41.780 it was really impactful for me. Just because the caliber of human being that he is Tim Tebow was a

00:06:48.080 highlight for me. So man, over the past 10 years, there have been so many that are amazing. Yeah, that's

00:06:54.320 great. All right, Jeremy Kofi or coffee. What was the first car you owned? And how long did you keep

00:07:03.000 it? First car? Yeah, the first car I ever owned was a 79 Plymouth champ. And it was awesome. It was

00:07:13.880 black in the interior was just impeccable. It was tan with white and black vertical stripes up the

00:07:20.440 ceiling down the chairs. It was amazing. And we in high school, we affectionately referred to it as

00:07:26.760 the Panty Raider. I don't know that it ever lived up to its name. But that's what we called it.

00:07:31.440 Anyways. I love that car, man. It was just such a fun little car.

00:07:40.960 Well, I have to say this because people are just going to think this the Panty Raider is this awesome

00:07:46.980 car. A Plymouth champ, just to be really clear, is like a two door hatchback, like crappy small mom's 1.00

00:07:55.600 car. Like I literally, I think I rolled, I rolled a Plymouth champ with buddies just for fun.

00:08:03.780 It's hilarious. It was a great little car. We bought it for 600 bucks. When I was a sophomore in high

00:08:09.520 school, I think, I think the first year out of college, if I remember out of high school, I ended up,

00:08:16.620 it was right before basic training and I ended up throwing a rod and just blew it up. And then I

00:08:23.440 sold it to a friend who was going to fix it and then he didn't. And then I think I bought it back

00:08:30.520 from him not long after and I didn't do anything with it. And then I sold it again, maybe back to

00:08:36.280 him or another friend and nothing ever really came of it after that. I have no idea where it's at,

00:08:40.980 but if I could buy that car today, I would totally buy that car today. And I would drive that thing

00:08:46.080 around as a daily driver. It was such a rad little car. So that was my first car, 79 Plymouth champ.

00:08:51.180 And it is, it looks like the Murph mobile. It's, it's not a, what is that? A gremlin or something?

00:08:55.120 It's not a gremlin, but it, but it looks a lot like the Murph mobile. Yeah. Oh man, that's so funny.

00:09:00.620 This is such a fun question. Um, 74 Chevy love rusted out for floor pan. So like if it rained,

00:09:10.940 your feet would get wet and I had, and I had four inch lowering blocks on, on my, on my Chevy love.

00:09:20.600 So it was like a mini pickup. I'm looking at this right now. This is awesome. The Chevy love. Yeah.

00:09:27.220 I've never seen it. I love, I bought it for 500 bucks from my sister. Here's the funny part. And then

00:09:34.580 this is, this is like classic rural Utah. I think I bought it when I was 14 and I drove it when I was

00:09:44.620 14, like to Panguitch to the grocery store. Like I use that car. I never registered it. I don't think

00:09:52.780 it's ever been registered ever or insured, but it was a daily commuter for me, uh, before I was 16

00:10:01.440 for, for a number of years. Sounds about right. Super hilarious. I love that. That's one of the

00:10:07.000 best things about small Utah towns and it's a little different now, but there's still small towns,

00:10:12.300 Perlin, Fillmore, South, you know, South severe. Um, a lot of these small towns that are really cool.

00:10:18.020 But, um, I remember one of the funny things with my vehicle is I always parked on a hill wherever I

00:10:23.860 could find a hill. I always parked on a hill just in case I couldn't turn it over, which was pretty

00:10:28.300 common that I would literally, so I'd park it on a hill and I'd steer it. If it couldn't, wouldn't

00:10:33.280 start, I'd steer it out into the road and I'd get out and I'd hold open the driver's side door and I'd

00:10:37.920 push with one hand on the door and one hand on the steering wheel. And as soon as I got a little bit

00:10:41.980 of speed, I'd jump in and pop the clutch and it worked every time. So if you don't know what a

00:10:48.920 Murph mobile is and you don't know about what popping a clutch is where we're dating ourselves

00:10:54.100 at this point, but man, I had some good memories. Sounds like you did too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh man.

00:11:01.260 Such a, I would buy that truck again too. Just, just for the, I don't know, the memory of it.

00:11:06.900 Nostalgia of it. Yeah, for sure. All right. That's funny. Okay. What's next?

00:11:10.100 Yep. Ty, Ty Sherwood revisiting our vision and battle plans this week. Here's my question. How

00:11:18.060 often have you changed yours? Looking back, how, how much of you stayed true to your original, uh,

00:11:25.920 plan? You know, I really think it depends on what type of vision you draft up because there's values

00:11:31.700 based and there's goals based. And I don't think one is necessarily better than the other. I think

00:11:36.360 it's what's going to drive you to achieving results in your life. So if it's value-based,

00:11:41.060 it's how are you going to show up as a man? So the value-based components of my vision have not

00:11:47.660 changed all that much, which makes sense. Those are the values and the principles that I ascribe to.

00:11:53.040 And the way I might implement those values in my day-to-day life may change depending on my

00:11:58.680 personal circumstances, but whether I'm in this job or another job or relationship or not a relationship

00:12:04.400 at this stage of my life or that stage of my life, the principles, because their principles

00:12:08.400 and values should pretty much stay the same. Uh, there might be new things that pop up. You know,

00:12:13.380 I think about, uh, a man having a child, for example, your values are going to change when you have 0.92

00:12:18.500 children. Uh, that's a completely new dynamic to your life. You're so much more responsible for

00:12:26.220 somebody else now. And so there's a, that's, that's something that might change some of your value

00:12:30.380 system and your beliefs. But as far as goals-based, uh, and, and I have both infused into my vision

00:12:35.840 and guys, by the way, it's so crucial that you have vision. I mean, I, I talk with men every day

00:12:41.940 who are lost and floundering and struggling and no purpose and no direction. It's because they haven't

00:12:47.160 really spent any time thinking about what they want out of their life. And I think a big part of the

00:12:52.900 reason for that is they don't give themselves the margin to do it. They're so inundated with work

00:12:58.540 and other responsibilities and duties and obligations, and a lot of them very noble and

00:13:03.560 righteous. But if you're not carving out time every day to think about what do I want life to

00:13:08.920 look like? What do I want today to look like? Let alone, what do I want the next five years to look

00:13:14.020 like? So vision and thinking about what I want for the future, um, in myself, in my relationships,

00:13:20.000 in my personal health and development is crucial. I do that every single day. Uh, but yeah,

00:13:25.980 the goals will change as, as life changes. I wouldn't say they change on a quarterly basis

00:13:32.620 because the goals are more long-term, the amount of prosperity and abundance I want to build,

00:13:38.420 the types of relationships I want to have with a woman, with my children, the type of business I 0.96

00:13:43.220 want to create. So they're more long-term. Um, so that doesn't really change that much, but if life

00:13:49.640 circumstances change, so for example, three years ago, I went through a divorce, that's going to change

00:13:54.820 some things. Um, if I were to shut down order of man or sell it or exit in some way, which I'm not

00:14:01.680 planning on doing, I want to throw that out there, then that's going to change some of the goals that

00:14:05.380 I have. So life events are going to change or a death of a loved one, um, or a job loss or a

00:14:11.840 bankruptcy, things that could potentially arise or positive things too. Like you get a promotion or you

00:14:17.360 move your, your, your kids and your wife across the country, positive things will change some of that

00:14:22.400 goal-based vision as well. Uh, but I wouldn't be so flippant about just changing it every quarter

00:14:27.080 or just tweaking it every week. It's like, okay, hold on. This should be projecting out into the

00:14:31.280 future. The rest of the battle plan is what for that quarterly stuff that you have going on that

00:14:35.680 may change more frequently. Yeah. Would you say that the standard mistake that probably most men make

00:14:43.180 is pivoting too quickly, right? And, and making adjustments too quickly, not giving it enough time.

00:14:50.140 Yeah, I think, I think that's true. Um, and I've seen a lot of people throw in the towel on certain

00:14:57.280 things. And I think in a lot of cases they're deceiving themselves because they're saying, well,

00:15:02.360 it's not no longer important to me or my priorities have changed. And more often than not, I don't think

00:15:08.060 it's that I think that it became difficult or they lost interest or motivation or became monotonous.

00:15:13.620 And so it was no longer interesting and sexy and fun. So they throw in the towel, but they know

00:15:20.100 that's not a good reason to throw in the towel. So they default back to, well, it just wasn't, I didn't

00:15:25.100 care about it anymore. So really give yourself some time. And if you are considering changing

00:15:29.860 something, deliberately changing a part of your vision or some of your objectives, ask yourself,

00:15:35.360 is it that I truly am no longer interested in this or it's no longer relevant in my life?

00:15:41.300 Or is it just because it's challenging harder and more difficult at this stage in my life?

00:15:47.320 And that goes with anything. Imagine playing a video game and I don't play many video games,

00:15:52.040 but when I was younger, I played video games and the levels progressively got harder. And when you're

00:15:58.000 on level one to get to level two, it's pretty easy. And then you get from two to three, still pretty

00:16:04.200 easy and quick three to four easy, but more challenging four to five. Okay. It's now I've

00:16:09.560 got to put some work in. And then when you're on level 10, 20, 30, 40, the amount of time that it

00:16:14.540 takes to get from level 39 to 40 might be the same amount of time it took you to get from level one

00:16:20.280 to 30. And that's the way life goes as well. If I go to the gym for the first time in 10 years,

00:16:27.640 I'm going to start seeing results really, really quickly. I'm going to eat right. I'm going to feel

00:16:32.580 my body correctly. Energy is going to go up. I'm going to start seeing lines and muscle definition

00:16:36.380 that wasn't there. And that's going to happen within a matter of months. But there's a phenomenon

00:16:41.620 called the law of diminishing returns. So the longer that I go, the returns will still be there,

00:16:46.520 but they'll take longer to see and they'll be much smaller than they were initially. And that's where

00:16:52.720 people get hung up is they, now it's a grind. You're not seeing progress as much. It's not coming as

00:17:00.940 easy. You feel like you've plateaued and you may have, so you need to pivot different things to

00:17:05.620 make yourself better. That's where a lot of people throw in the towel and they say, well,

00:17:09.980 I'm not interested anymore. No, it just got harder and you weren't seeing the results that you wanted

00:17:14.160 to see. And that is why I'm rambling at this point, but that is why it's so important that you wrap up

00:17:20.940 your identity, not in the results that you achieve, but the measures that you take. So if you say to

00:17:27.480 yourself, man, my goal is to be 10% body fat and to have 20 inch biceps and do physique contests and

00:17:36.920 competitions or strength training or whatever it might be, those are good ambitions. I'm not saying

00:17:42.860 they're not good things to aim towards, but what if it takes you longer than you thought? Or what if

00:17:48.580 you get injured? Or what if something happens with the family and you have to put training off for a

00:17:53.940 while? Now, all of a sudden that could completely derail you. And not only that, make you feel way

00:17:59.160 less about yourself. So I think the greater strategy is just to say, hey, I'm going to live as a healthy

00:18:07.180 individual. Sure. Here's my goals and my benchmarks, but my identity is not wrapped up in the benchmark.

00:18:12.760 My identity is wrapped up in the day-to-day activity to ultimately achieve those things I say I want.

00:18:19.000 I love it. Love it. Great clarity. All right. Lonnie McIntyre, in the process of reclaiming one's

00:18:27.380 sovereignty, how do you deal with resistance in your own home, specifically from a spouse?

00:18:33.940 To be specific, over the past 25 years of my marriage, I've been a good provider, but not a

00:18:41.100 good leader. Also, I was a pleaser, meaning I ignored my feelings and needs, et cetera, as long as

00:18:48.000 everyone else was happy. That was all that mattered. Well, it's a bit ironic, the question

00:18:54.000 you're asking, how do I regain my sovereignty, but worry about what other people are thinking at the

00:18:57.700 same time? Like it's, I mean, I get your question and I'm not beating the question up by any means.

00:19:02.320 It's just an interesting thing to consider. And on one hand, I have to say that you probably should

00:19:09.160 consider that less. Okay. On one hand, because it doesn't matter if you're going to lead, then you have

00:19:14.980 to lead. And you know what? Your wife is going to push back on you, especially if throughout your 1.00

00:19:19.000 marriage, you've never done it. I don't think she's probably being malicious. She just probably

00:19:24.680 doesn't believe you. And why would she? No offense, Lonnie, to you, but why would she? You said

00:19:30.460 yourself, you've been spending your entire marriage this way, and now you're shifting 180 degrees. And

00:19:36.620 she's like, what the hell's going on? I don't, I didn't, this is weird. Ultimately, she's really going to

00:19:42.000 appreciate it, but it's going to take some effort because she probably doesn't believe that your

00:19:46.220 changes are going to be lasting. And it's a threat to your current situation. So on one hand, you have

00:19:53.540 to worry less about how people receive it because you're doing it for the right reason. And that is

00:19:59.600 to be a man, to lead your family, to lead your wife, to lead your kids, and for everybody around you

00:20:04.260 to live a better life. That's the right reason. On the other hand, you have to make sure you do this

00:20:10.420 with some tact so you can get her support and get her on board. Because if she's not on board,

00:20:15.600 it's going to be infinitely harder and you run the risk of maybe even losing relationships in the

00:20:21.200 process, which is antithetical to what I think you're trying to do. You're trying to bolster

00:20:26.340 relationships, not break them down. So what I would say is make sure you include her in the process.

00:20:34.760 You can have your sovereignty, but still include the people who are going to be impacted by your

00:20:40.140 decisions in that process. And that might look like this. Hey, hon, can we talk tonight? Can we

00:20:46.340 sit down for, you know, 45 minutes to an hour? Everything's fine. Just want to put that out

00:20:51.700 there. Everything's fine. But I want to talk with you about some things I've been doing in the Iron

00:20:55.600 Council. That's the group I was telling you about that I signed up for. Would that be okay? And she's

00:21:00.920 going to say, yeah, that's fine. We can do that after dinner, after the kids go to bed. Good. I'm

00:21:04.420 looking forward to it. I have some exciting things I want to share with you. You see how I framed

00:21:07.960 that? First, I told her I wanted to sit down so now she can brace herself for some time. 0.97

00:21:13.760 I told her everything's fine so she doesn't need to stress out about something going wrong

00:21:19.220 or me having hard feelings or something like that. So she's not stressed there. And also

00:21:24.020 you framed it as exciting things. So now she's like, oh, okay, is this going to be a good,

00:21:27.980 optimistic, hopeful conversation? So make sure framing when you have these conversations

00:21:32.620 is done right. And I always try to give people the time to just brace themselves for the

00:21:38.140 conversations that we're going to have. Then when you sit down with her, that's where you're

00:21:42.680 going to start talking with her first about why the changes you need to make are important.

00:21:48.140 So write that down. Why is important. So that might look like this. Hey, hon, look, I'm going

00:21:54.240 to be really honest. And I think you already know this. We've talked about this for the past

00:21:57.900 10 or 15 or 20 years, however long you guys have been married. I haven't really shown up,

00:22:02.940 I feel like, in a powerful way that serves you and the kids best. And I haven't really been happy

00:22:08.660 with myself. But I think that based on some things that I'm learning about myself through

00:22:13.560 the Iron Council and some conversations that you and I have had, it really makes sense for me to step

00:22:19.800 up in a better way because you need a good leader in the home. You've asked for me to be a better

00:22:25.760 leader. The kids need direction and focus and discipline and consistency for me so they can be

00:22:31.880 safe and secure and grow up fulfilled and grow up in a healthy way. I need to be better at work

00:22:39.340 because we need to figure out a way to bring more income into the household. Can you imagine if we do

00:22:44.920 that and we pay off some debt, we set some money aside every year for that vacation we want to take

00:22:50.380 with a family every year, put a little money aside for retirement, maybe get you in a position where

00:22:55.820 you don't have to work anymore. You see how you're framing this in a way that it's serving her if you

00:23:00.800 make these moves? And you tee that up first and then you ask her, what do you think about that?

00:23:07.440 So you're leading by starting the conversation and you're also allowing her to follow you. This is what

00:23:13.860 you want. You want her to follow you. And so you're giving her permission and even asking for her to

00:23:20.300 follow you. And how is she doing that? By giving you her feedback. So now she says, yeah, that would

00:23:26.040 be great. And then what you say is, so you have the why. Now you have, well, so what would be some

00:23:32.880 concerns that you might have if I were to start improving myself in these ways and working towards

00:23:39.280 that? Would there be concerns that you would have? Again, leading because you're asking powerful

00:23:42.860 questions, asking her to follow you by sharing those things with you. Don't get, don't get offended

00:23:51.160 in these moments. Okay. Cause she might say, well, I think it's great, but you've talked about this

00:23:55.500 before. And frankly, it just pissed me off because we invested a bunch of time. You weren't here. You

00:24:01.020 were done other things. And then we just went right back to where we were before. It would have been

00:24:04.480 better not to do anything at all. That's where most men will get offended and they'll ruin what they're 0.99

00:24:09.920 trying to do. Sovereignty is being able to put yourself above emotional reaction.

00:24:18.220 Because if there's one person, even if it's your wife, the closest person in your life

00:24:22.140 who can get you to bite by saying a few sentences, you're not sovereign. She can control you. 1.00

00:24:30.220 Hmm. So regulate the emotion, say, you know what? That's good feedback. I understand why you'd feel

00:24:36.700 that way. I did do that. It was that way, but I'd like to share with you what I'm going to do moving

00:24:42.680 forward and how that's going to look. And then you start sharing some of your plans. You don't need to

00:24:46.920 share everything all at once. Just say, Hey, you know, the, the, one of the things I'm going to do

00:24:51.300 is I'm just going to become a man of my word. That's, that's my biggest focus right now. And so

00:24:57.940 here's how that's going to be threefold. If I say I'm going to do something, I'm going to do it.

00:25:06.380 If I say I'm going to do something, I'm going to do it. If I don't want to do it or won't do it,

00:25:13.480 then I'm not going to say I will do it. That's number two. And number three, I'm going to be very

00:25:19.580 honest in our relationship moving forward. So if you ask me where I would like to eat for dinner

00:25:25.080 or what I would like to have, I'm going to be honest and tell you exactly what I want.

00:25:28.860 If you come to me and you put two dresses in front of me and you say, which one looks better?

00:25:32.840 I'm going to tell you which one looks better. If you say something to me and I take it the wrong way,

00:25:39.480 or maybe it feels personal, I'm going to tell you that feels personal to me. So, so the way that I'm

00:25:47.160 going to be a man of my word is threefold. Number one, I'm going to do what I say I'm going to do.

00:25:50.720 Number two, I'm not going to say things I'm not going to do. And number three, I'm going to be

00:25:54.000 truthful in all of our interactions moving forward. How do you feel about that? And again, allow her to

00:25:59.360 be part of the conversation. That's, that's a little bit of the way that I would approach that initial

00:26:03.860 conversation. What do you think though, Kip? I mean, I think it's solid. I mean, and I don't know if

00:26:09.120 this is good advice. I was going to ask you your thoughts about this, but my default sometimes is

00:26:14.440 not to have this conversation first. Right. And to make sure I'm making pivots and adjustments on my

00:26:23.280 own, that I'm kind of modeling some behavior, some momentum before having the conversation.

00:26:29.660 However, I don't know if that's necessarily a good thing, right? Because that's kind of loaded

00:26:35.700 probably with some expectation that I'm going to start showing up more powerfully. She may not even

00:26:41.140 know the pivots and adjustments that I'm making. And then I have this expectation that you know what I

00:26:46.000 mean? There's change when she's unaware of the actual change that we're talking about. And so

00:26:51.160 there's probably a balance there. I mean, maybe a consideration for Lonnie is like, are there areas

00:26:57.480 by which you need to show up more powerfully? That's almost like a net negative that you need to kind of

00:27:04.740 clear up and make sure that there's some modeling or leading by example is, you know, obviously you

00:27:11.100 have to be a man of integrity. You can't have this conversation and not follow through. That's not

00:27:16.780 going to penetrate you. Right. That's a trap. Really bad. So yeah. So you got to, you got to follow

00:27:22.840 through, but you know, um, why would she believe you now? It's been 25 years right now. You're just

00:27:30.040 talking about it. You know, just the importance of how we show up is, is really what comes to mind.

00:27:36.840 I, I think there's, I, there's validity in what you're saying. Um, I think there's a lot of guys

00:27:41.200 who would say exactly what you're saying. Don't ever communicate. Just do it. Just do it. Show up.

00:27:45.700 And, and I, I can, I can see where that would be appropriate. Um, because your actions are always

00:27:50.240 going to be more significant than your words. That said, I think I'm a communicator personally,

00:27:55.920 so I would rather communicate. Um, and I'm also going to be a man of my word. I'm going to follow

00:28:01.060 through on the things I'm going to say I'm going to do. So there might be areas where instead of

00:28:07.440 just saying areas, let's talk about it. Maybe you're 40 pounds overweight. I don't think you need

00:28:13.440 to explain to her that you're going to start losing weight. I think you just control your dieting

00:28:19.120 within the confines of, of what you guys eat and you train every day. Now, where I would consult her

00:28:27.300 is if you're going to start getting up early and leaving the house at five 30 in the morning,

00:28:32.580 and she's used to you getting up at seven 30, you probably have some explaining to do.

00:28:37.940 Or if you eat poorly and you want to look at some changes in the diet for the household,

00:28:46.980 probably some conversations that need to be had there. But I think there is a lot that you can do

00:28:53.140 without really informing her. But the minute it starts to impact her or the minute she starts to

00:28:59.640 get weird about it, like, Hey, what's going on here? And you'll notice what that is. Cause you know,

00:29:04.880 her personality that, that would be, if you haven't already, that would definitely be a time to make

00:29:10.280 sure you're explaining things to her because what could potentially happen is if you don't explain

00:29:15.340 things, you could actually start getting a whole lot better pretty quickly. I mean, if you go to

00:29:20.200 the gym every day for two months, you're going to lose 20 pounds. Like you in, in locking your diet,

00:29:25.600 you're absolutely going to lose 20 pounds. I would say 95% of the male population would probably fall

00:29:31.420 into that category. Um, if you start being more assertive at work or with her, like she's going to

00:29:38.120 to notice that, um, if you get a promotion at work, she's going to see that if your demeanor changes,

00:29:45.100 or if you're getting up earlier or going to bed earlier, and you have a nighttime routine that

00:29:50.400 doesn't include watching bin watch binge, watching the Netflix show and gorging yourself on a bag of

00:29:56.500 Oreos, she's going to notice that. And she might be threatened it by it. If you don't include,

00:30:03.660 because this is what people do. She, she might think, why is he doing this? Or who's he trying

00:30:09.880 to impress? Or is he seeing somebody else? She might think those things. So be aware, just be

00:30:18.040 aware of that. If you change, she's going to notice. Yeah. Yeah, totally. You know, one thing that comes

00:30:23.340 to mind for Lonnie and I've been fleshing out this a little bit, but, but this, just this concept of

00:30:29.040 leadership capital and, and where's your balance, right? Do you, do you have a positive leadership

00:30:35.500 capital balance with her and what are you doing to make those deposits? I'm Stephen Covey used the

00:30:42.300 term emotional bank account. Um, I would just know that you need a positive balance and what are you

00:30:51.160 doing? And not, and not that sovereignty isn't good in itself, but why Lonnie, why I'm reclaiming my

00:30:59.920 sovereignty? Why? Like what, why? So you can be a better husband so you can be a better father so you

00:31:08.040 can serve. Don't lose sight of the reasoning behind the pivot sometimes, right? Natural dispensation of

00:31:16.820 almost all men, right? A little bit of leadership authority will result in, and practice in

00:31:23.320 unrighteous dominion, right? So don't lose sight of why you're doing this. Well, I also think as a nice

00:31:31.140 guy, uh, and that's what it sounds like with him is that he's got some nice guy tendencies. When you

00:31:37.100 try to move from nice guy, what ends up happening, if you're serious about it, and this is natural is 0.98

00:31:43.260 you start tiptoeing into asshole territory is what I call it because you don't have a healthy 0.97

00:31:49.180 perspective of what is nice versus what is sovereign. And, and so the pendulum swings too far 0.99

00:31:58.140 in a lot of cases. And some guys end up just turning into complete dicks because my sovereignty 0.99

00:32:04.560 it's like, well, okay, good. That's okay. You can explore those fringes. You kind of need to, 0.99

00:32:11.320 because then that, what that does is that allows you to see, oh, oh, oh, I went too far. I got to

00:32:16.220 rein that back in just a little bit. Or there's a way for me to communicate my desires, but do it in

00:32:22.600 a way that will be well-received by others. And that's where you start to find the middle ground,

00:32:28.780 the nuance in the way that you show up between being nice, which is getting trampled on and being 0.99

00:32:34.400 a dick, which is trampling on everybody else. But you can't really know until you explore the 0.98

00:32:40.740 fringes of both. Just be careful of that. Yeah, absolutely. All right. Mike, uh, and Dorfer looking

00:32:48.840 back over the past nine plus years, which is crazy of doing order of man name one thing you're most

00:32:57.140 proud of and one area you see the greatest opportunity for growth. Well, I mean, I can say

00:33:03.320 that hit it and it's been 10 years actually now. And I can say that I'm very proud that we hit our 10

00:33:09.200 year anniversary. It's pretty broad, but the fact that we've been in this game for 10 years

00:33:13.980 where I don't know what the statistics are, but if you look at the statistics of businesses starting

00:33:18.200 and failing, like it's rough. So for us to be in this game for a decade means a lot to me.

00:33:25.140 Um, I'm also really proud of when we started, this was seven, eight years ago when we started doing

00:33:29.680 events, you know, when we started doing events, that was, that was amazing. Um, I'm really proud of that.

00:33:36.000 And then I'm also proud of, well, when I went through my divorce three years ago, I had every

00:33:43.820 reason to throw in the towel at every reason to stop. I had every reason to stop doing this and

00:33:49.120 move on. You know, plenty of people were encouraging me and not so many words to, to do that. Like

00:33:56.340 there was a lot that went on and I didn't. And I always felt compelled, even in those moments where

00:34:02.120 I was like, ah, maybe I should quit or sell the business or, or close it down and do something

00:34:05.960 else. Even in those fleeting moments and they were fleeting, I just couldn't help but think,

00:34:11.600 no, you have more work to do. There's more work to do here. And in spite of everything that's

00:34:16.180 happened, you might be more qualified to help men who you weren't able to help before because

00:34:23.020 you didn't relate with what they were going through. So that was a really big deal. Uh, there

00:34:28.780 was another part of that question. What, what was the second part of that question?

00:34:33.480 Greatest opportunity for growth.

00:34:35.640 Oh yeah. I still think local chapters and I've been thinking about that forever. I just think

00:34:40.740 that the more that AI gets introduced to things, I mean, I use AI just about every day now. Um,

00:34:46.380 some of it for things that you guys are very familiar with. Um, some of it that's kind of just

00:34:50.500 behind the scenes and the more that gets integrated into everybody's everyday average way of life,

00:34:58.020 the more need we're going to have for connection. So that's where the greatest opportunity lies and

00:35:04.260 that and, and individual courses as well, because what I've found is that men aren't generally just

00:35:10.600 doing like poor every, in every department, it's usually some isolated thing that they're going

00:35:16.660 through that's impacting other aspects of their life. So for example, if they're going through a

00:35:20.820 divorce, okay, now their mental health is diminished. Now their physical health goes, they don't have

00:35:26.000 hobbies. They don't have activities. They're kind of lost, confused, frustrated, feeling like a

00:35:30.120 failure. So there's a lot of mental weight and baggage that comes with that. So it's just an,

00:35:35.920 it's an isolated thing and it can be isolated, but if we can put together a course and we're working

00:35:41.220 on it called divorce, not death. So if you go to that website, divorce, not death.com, you can get

00:35:46.460 signed up for that. And if we can put together a course that helps men walk through, for example,

00:35:51.900 in this case, the first 12 months post-divorce. Okay. Now we're focused on that acute problem,

00:36:00.060 which will, if addressed properly, naturally improve every other aspect of their life. And

00:36:05.920 that could be finances too. That could be having a child or a new relationship or the loss of a loved

00:36:12.900 one. These major catastrophic and very happy life events is when men are most interested in developing 0.97

00:36:19.660 and improving. And I think there's some opportunities to plug into where those guys want solutions.

00:36:28.080 Yeah. You know, Ryan, you mentioned events and, and obviously this divorce, uh, not death course,

00:36:35.300 you know, just as a reminder, you know, for you guys to stay connected to Ryan or even hop onto the

00:36:41.460 website, order man.com, sign up for the newsletter that that's how you stay in the know, um, regarding

00:36:46.860 up and coming events, right. That, that we put on. So that's order of man.com, uh, Wayne McPherson,

00:36:53.180 ruck a roll. Will you be spending more time on your feet or your back in Q3?

00:36:59.680 Yeah. So he's referring to jujitsu or rucking. Uh, there's a big rucking competition inside the

00:37:06.020 iron council right now. It was funny. Cause I was so proud of myself on, uh, on Saturday I did

00:37:11.280 three and a half miles. I think it was, yeah, three miles with 35 pounds. And I was like, yeah,

00:37:15.400 I'm winning. And I looked at the results and I was winning and Dan was like, well, yeah,

00:37:19.020 you're winning. Cause it doesn't start till tomorrow. And I was like, oh shit. I thought

00:37:22.840 because of the, cause of 4th of July, it messed up my schedule. So I thought Saturday was Sunday

00:37:27.820 and that's when it started. So yeah, I want, I was winning because nobody else had even started yet.

00:37:32.900 So that's the only time I think I'll be in the lead in this competition, but I've done two days in a

00:37:37.700 row now. Um, and I'm going on a trip next week. So that's going to be a little hard. So I'm trying to

00:37:42.940 front and load this and just be aware of other things that might derail me, but yeah, I'm going

00:37:46.740 to be doing a lot more rucking this quarter than rolling. Yeah. Just wear your weighted vest on the

00:37:52.600 airplane. It won't be awkward at all. No one's going to be worried about it. Maybe I can do it in

00:37:57.720 jujitsu too. Just wear my vest while I'm training jujitsu. Actually, you know what? Like, uh, Michael

00:38:07.200 Easter, he wrote, um, uh, what's the book called? I can't think of a book, the book title. Uh, it was

00:38:14.720 his first book. I had him on the podcast. Uh, look, look it up Kip. Well, I'm talking real quick.

00:38:19.840 Michael Easter. Yeah. And then Joe DeSena, founder of Spartan races. Um, Joe will carry kettlebells on

00:38:25.300 airplanes with him. He just brings kettlebells with him. And I think Michael does something similar

00:38:30.020 where he'll just carry kettlebells. What's the book? Comfort crisis. That's what it is.

00:38:35.300 He'll carry, he'll either carry weights or, or dumbbells or something with him on planes. So

00:38:41.420 it's not out of the realm of what people have done before. And who cares who you're going to be

00:38:48.480 judged by? All right. People who are out of shape, fat, overweight, and you know, a little bit

00:38:54.420 miserable. That's who you're going to be judged by. Does that matter? Yeah. Plus, I mean, I, I, 0.99

00:39:01.240 what I expect you to answer to Wayne is I don't play off my back when I do jujitsu anyway. So it

00:39:07.080 doesn't matter. Well, I don't want to, but I usually end up finding myself there. I'd rather

00:39:11.200 be on top if we're being honest, but I just, I take what I can get.

00:39:18.460 All right. Uh, Jay, uh, Lafrey for years, I've stressed to my wife, the importance of making sure

00:39:24.860 she has enough fuel in her vehicle in case of an emergency. Unfortunately, it falls to deaf ears.

00:39:30.700 Her gas tank seems to always be close to empty. It grinds my gears. Should I take on responsibility

00:39:38.040 of filling up her fuel for her safety? If I take that on, is that Mr. Mr. Nice guy mistake? What

00:39:45.660 would each of you gents do in my case? Thank you for your time. I don't think it's Mr. Nice guy. 1.00

00:39:51.160 Like you're not just being nice. You have her best interest at heart and clearly she's not going to

00:39:55.740 do it. Maybe she doesn't understand the ramification of why she's doing that. But I think that's pretty

00:40:01.380 common for women. It seems like, or I know you've talked about, you know, Asia taking the, or, or

00:40:07.080 saying I need the truck today and you give her the truck to get into her car and it's on empty while

00:40:11.040 yours is full. I don't know if this is one of those things that's just the difference between men and

00:40:15.780 women or, or what it is, but it seems to be the case. Um, yeah, I, I would, I would be pretty

00:40:23.880 cautious of doing it myself because she can do it. She, it's not like a difficult thing and maybe

00:40:33.080 just say, Hey hon, like every Monday or every Thursday or whatever, will you just go fill up

00:40:37.700 the car? Like that, that'll put my mind to ease. That makes me feel better. I, I'm, I care about you.

00:40:42.560 I want you to know you're safe and that's, that's important to me. Uh, maybe you've already had

00:40:48.120 that conversation, but I don't know. What do you think? Would you, would you fill it up for her?

00:40:55.540 I mean, I feel like I do already, right? You do anyways. Yeah. I mean, I'm true. Yeah. I don't,

00:41:01.780 I don't think I'd go out of my way to like go fill up her car, but, but let's, let's think through

00:41:06.660 this principle. Right. So it's this, it's something else. How, how we, how do you drive

00:41:12.360 this forward? Most people need coaching in the moment, right? Like that's kind of how it works.

00:41:19.800 Right. So, you know, um, perhaps, right. One thing that you could do is, you know, it's, it's

00:41:28.980 evening time. I don't know. You guys just wrapped up dinner and you're like, Hey, we got a crazy day

00:41:36.260 tomorrow. Let's grab the kids, go to the gas station, get some ice creams. And while we're

00:41:41.000 at it, we can go ahead and fill up the car. So we don't have to worry about that tomorrow.

00:41:44.860 That'd be nice to button that up. So I would look for the in the moment opportunities,

00:41:51.240 but the bigger issue is that it grinds my gears, right? Like awesome. And how many other things

00:42:01.260 outside your realm of control, grind your gears, like you got to deal with that.

00:42:09.480 Welcome to autonomy and agency. And whether it's your wife or whether it's your teenage kid

00:42:17.700 or employees, guess what? They're not going to do what you suggest. Even if what you suggest

00:42:23.540 is the most amazing thing ever and would benefit them. Most people don't. Most people don't.

00:42:30.500 Why? Cause they don't need to be changed. They don't want to be changed. They don't want

00:42:35.040 your coaching. Most people just want, you know, that they, they want to feel appreciated

00:42:40.100 by you and seen by you. I mean, that's reality. And sometimes people come knocking and get your

00:42:46.320 advice and, and sometimes hopefully we'll have opportunity to coach people. But I mean, I would

00:42:54.040 double down in the area that I'm getting upset about and why am I getting upset about it? And

00:42:58.240 how do I let go of it? Just my thoughts. I mean, it's a, it's a fun, it's a kind of a funny

00:43:03.800 thing, but it's true. It is something people deal with. And you know, I, another thought

00:43:08.380 that comes to mind is, has she ever run out of gas before? Because if she hasn't, maybe

00:43:13.920 she knows what she's doing. Like maybe she's fine. Yeah. That's a, that's a consideration.

00:43:18.940 Yeah. Um, another consideration is, are you doing all the little things that she wants you to do?

00:43:27.580 Like, let's say she's like, Hey hon, can you be home at five 30? Cause that's what time we do

00:43:31.160 dinner. But you come home at five 45 and at six o'clock and you're like, well, I was busy with a

00:43:36.200 proposal and doing, he does pools. And so I was busy. So I couldn't, well, it goes both ways.

00:43:44.740 Like you might ask yourself, Hey, in what ways can I show up more fully? And, and you might

00:43:49.420 acknowledge that with her. If you're really trying to get to the bottom of it, you know,

00:43:52.440 maybe it's like, Hey hon, you know, it's important to me, but you know, I also see where there's

00:43:57.140 things that are important to you that I'm not doing. So I'm going to work on those things and

00:44:01.220 you can either do that or not, but I can see where I might need to do a little better too. And I'm

00:44:04.560 going to work on those things. She might follow suit. Yeah. Here's, here's the other thing.

00:44:09.660 Often this is, this is called a fundamental attribution error. When we attribute reasoning

00:44:15.640 to our lack of action, but when it comes to other people, we attribute it to their character.

00:44:23.780 Right. So she's not filling up the tank. Well, why do we know why? Maybe it's not as easy for her.

00:44:33.320 Maybe there is more things going on, right? Like who knows? Right. So there might be some root

00:44:39.300 cause analysis that, right. That could happen there as well. The only, I mean, we're digging

00:44:44.160 deep on this one, but the only other thought I had is like, depending on what the vehicles are,

00:44:49.780 you know, maybe just trade her once per week and you know, you take care of it and you take the, 1.00

00:44:54.400 you take the other vehicle, her vehicle on Wednesdays or something that might be a little

00:44:58.460 hard because you're lying to work. And she might say, well, I don't want to drive the truck. It's like,

00:45:01.840 well, then fill up the gas tank. And then we don't have, we don't, we don't have to worry about

00:45:05.660 this. So there's a lot here. There's a lot to unpack in this small little example.

00:45:12.220 What we don't recommend Jay is you going out in the middle of the night, siphoning gas from her

00:45:17.520 car into yours. So she's purposely on empty. So you can teach her a lesson. Don't do that.

00:45:23.480 That's that definitely. That's not going to go well.

00:45:26.620 Just take her keys, just unhook one of the terminals so she can't even leave the driveway

00:45:31.900 until she learns how to put gas in the tank. There you go. Problem solved. Yeah. 1.00

00:45:35.460 Oh boy. Okay. What's next? Shoot. I think we can take one. Maybe we just gave Jay some ideas.

00:45:45.160 Yeah. Well, I'm sure he had those ideas. This is our last one from the council.

00:45:51.560 I'm sure those weren't new. All right. Joe Gunter.

00:45:55.520 All right. Joe Gunter. While going through, um, our, what keeps us up at night segment of our team call,

00:46:02.380 we realized that a large majority of our team members are struggling with being just a little

00:46:07.480 off base. We are all putting in the work, but it seems like we're all going through a, uh,

00:46:13.140 a season of being in lower mental state. Seems like we're all hitting the mid season dog days

00:46:19.520 of the year in our battle plans. What are some strategies that you guys like to use to weather

00:46:25.080 than mid season slump and stay motivated? Well, first stop calling it that the, what,

00:46:32.000 what did you say? The mid season slump mid season dog days. Yeah. Don't, yeah. And mid season slump.

00:46:40.660 I've never, don't do that because you're just placing the expectation of this is just how it goes.

00:46:46.720 So don't first and foremost, don't do that. It doesn't have to be how it goes. And you're

00:46:52.040 talking about weathering the days. What does weathering the days mean? It means hunkering

00:46:56.540 down, bolting up the windows, shutting yourself inside from the rest of the world and just like

00:47:01.820 getting through it. If maybe the answer is the opposite of weathering it. Maybe the answer is

00:47:07.680 try something new, go on adventure, pick up a new hobby, go, go play, go, go on a trip,

00:47:14.460 take your family somewhere crazy, do something a little wild, something you've never done before.

00:47:18.780 And so the answer is not weathering it. The answer is embracing it, enjoying it, living it fully.

00:47:24.500 That's some mindset stuff from a tactical perspective. Yes. Obviously trying new things,

00:47:29.480 mixing it up. The analogy I've used in the past is not to mix metaphors here necessarily, but

00:47:34.020 you're, you're driving down a dirt road and it gets a little swampy and you get yourself into a rut.

00:47:41.560 And if you've ever been in a rut on a dirt road, you know, it'll still keep going depending on how

00:47:46.660 bad the rut is, but you can keep going, but it's really hard to get yourself out of the rut. It's

00:47:50.840 almost like a track that you can just press the gas and it'll, it'll just take the car wherever

00:47:55.620 the ruts are. Sometimes in order to get out of that rut, you need to jerk the wheel and give it

00:47:59.960 some gas and pop yourself up out of that rut and get back on top of on the road. And then you can

00:48:05.540 control and go where you want to go. You have to be careful of sliding back in, but you're up on top.

00:48:09.480 And that's what your life might require when you're having those days is popping yourself up out of

00:48:16.020 that rut, trying something new, going on an adventure, asking the kids what they want to do,

00:48:21.680 taking your wife out, you know, on a staycation somewhere, a mini vacation, mixing something up

00:48:27.780 at work. If you have the possibility to do that, picking up a new hobby, those types of things. So

00:48:32.020 you're not hunkering, you're actually living life to its fullest. So I would, I would definitely say,

00:48:36.800 you know, have a little bit more, uh, adventure in your life. And the other thing that I would look

00:48:42.360 at is because we're talking about nutrition this month in the iron council, you should look at your

00:48:49.400 nutrition, look at what you're eating. We shouldn't be tired. Like we'll have moments of tiredness

00:48:53.680 because we stayed up doing fireworks all night or something like that, but we shouldn't be chronically

00:48:57.380 tired. We shouldn't be chronically lethargic. We shouldn't be chronically unsettled or slightly

00:49:04.380 miserable, not totally, but slightly. We should not feel that way. I think so many men feel that

00:49:08.580 way that we just think it's commonplace. Oh, well, you know, I turned 40 last year. So I guess this

00:49:12.420 is just the way it is. Who said this is the way it is. So what I would have, I would, what I'd really

00:49:17.600 have you do on a tactical level is go get your blood drawn, talk with a qualified medical professional

00:49:23.720 to read those results for you. Take a look at your hormones, testosterone, obviously how all of your,

00:49:30.420 the rest of your internal organs are functioning. And if they're working correctly, blood cell counts,

00:49:34.940 all that kind of stuff, have somebody that can help you with that. I'd take a real good look at my

00:49:39.980 sleep. Am I getting not only enough, but am I getting the proper sleep? Because we know that's

00:49:44.460 important. It's not just about the quantity. It's also about the quality. You can look at Sleep Smarter

00:49:49.500 by Shawn Stevenson. And then I would look at my diet. Are you eating a bunch of carbs and processed sugars?

00:49:55.480 Are you consuming a bunch of alcohol, which is pretty common during the summertime? You're

00:50:01.240 overeating probably because you have all the barbecues and you got chips in front of you and

00:50:05.440 everything else. Your diet's probably changed because of the summer too. So you can read Eat

00:50:11.100 Smarter also by Shawn Stevenson to take a look at your sleep, your nutrition, and your blood work,

00:50:17.840 I would say is a huge part of that, especially as you do get older. It's important for men.

00:50:21.980 Yeah. I think I love the disrupt. I love the pivot, jerk the wheel. That might look like even a short

00:50:33.480 term challenge for you and your team. Like, hey guys, let's mix it up. This week, everyone's doing

00:50:39.980 two a days. We're throwing in three mile runs for everybody every single day. Or maybe you do a check

00:50:47.160 in a little bit more often that week, right? The other thing is don't forget why you're doing what

00:50:52.260 you're doing. And don't like focus on the progress, right? The gap and the gain, right? Look at the gain

00:51:00.060 because some of the slump is we're losing sight that we're, we're progressing. We're doing great,

00:51:05.180 right? And so maybe a little bit of gratitude, um, for the progress being made as well. And don't

00:51:12.860 forget the bigger picture of why we're doing what we're doing. Yeah. I was writing this down

00:51:19.040 because, you know, I like frameworks. Um, so the frameworks that I think would work really good

00:51:24.260 in this scenario, and I like the word that you use disrupt. So I would say disrupt and check in,

00:51:29.000 check in with your body. That's the blood work, the nutrition, the sleep, and then disrupt your life

00:51:33.660 in a responsible way. Obviously you have responsibilities, but disrupt and check in.

00:51:37.820 I think if you do those few things, man, you're going to find, you're going to find some gaps

00:51:41.700 that you can really fill and change some things around pretty quickly. Awesome. All right. That's

00:51:46.380 a wrap gentlemen. Um, really quick, a couple, a couple of things, right? I said, connect with Ryan,

00:51:51.880 hop onto the website, order man.com, sign up for the newsletter, divorce, not death.com for that up

00:51:58.060 and coming course. And then of course you can connect with Mickler on X and Instagram at Ryan Mickler.

00:52:04.600 Sure. That's how you stay in the know. And that's how you stay connected to what we have going on

00:52:08.620 and upcoming events and those kinds of things. Yes, sir. All right, guys. Well, I appreciate

00:52:13.340 the questions today. Hopefully as always, we gave you some things to consider and I hope that you

00:52:16.960 had a good 4th of July weekend coming back, getting back into it. Uh, we will be back on Friday until

00:52:22.160 then go out there, take action and become the man you are meant to be.

00:52:25.640 Thank you for listening to the order of man podcast. You're ready to take charge of your life

00:52:34.640 and be more of the man you were meant to be. We invite you to join the order at order of man.com.

00:52:40.160 Bye.

Order of Man - July 09, 2025

Revisiting Your Vision, Reclaiming Your Sovereignty, and The Power of Disruption ｜ ASK ME ANYTHING

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