Order of Man - RICKSON GRACIE ｜ The Art and Science of Invisible Jiu-Jitsu

00:00:00.000 You guys have heard me talk about jiu-jitsu ad nauseum, but what you may not have heard me talk too much about is the often overlooked invisible form of the martial art that has taken over the world of MMA and combat sports.

00:00:14.360 This is not about submitting or disabling an opponent on the mats, but how the lessons learned on the mats apply to your everyday life.

00:00:21.700 I can think of no better person to share this knowledge and depth of experience than one of the toughest men in the first family of jiu-jitsu, Hickson Gracie.

00:00:32.620 Today, Hickson and I talk about managing fear, how to find a mission more important than your life, how to keep your identity secure, although you may lose one element of who you are,

00:00:43.160 the importance of a balanced approach to being a warrior, why base on the mats and off is so crucial, and the power of respecting and honoring your intuition.

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00:01:08.440 This is your life. This is who you are. This is who you will become at the end of the day, and after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man.

00:01:20.300 Gentlemen, welcome to the Order of Man podcast. I've got an exciting conversation lined up with Hickson Gracie, a repeat guest,

00:01:26.560 and one that I deeply admire and respect, not only because of my own jiu-jitsu journey, but this is a man who has spent a lifetime learning how to be a warrior,

00:01:36.400 learning how to fight, and with his recent diagnosis of Parkinson's disease, has taken one element of his physical capacity to fight off the table,

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00:02:50.200 All right, guys, let me introduce you to my guest today. Again, his name is Hickson Gracie. He's the son of Helio Gracie,

00:02:56.700 who is the man that developed Brazilian jiu-jitsu. Hickson is a ninth-degree red belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu,

00:03:03.920 a mixed martial artist, a New York Times best-selling author, and a man who is waging war with his diagnosis of Parkinson's disease.

00:03:12.480 He's arguably one of the best fighters of the Gracie family and one of the toughest individuals in the world,

00:03:18.800 and I'm not even using hyperbole. That is true. He's been training since he was six,

00:03:24.380 received his black belt by 18, and subsequently went on to be undefeated in his professional fighting career.

00:03:30.280 Now, in his second book, Comfort and Darkness, The Invisible Power of Jiu-Jitsu,

00:03:33.560 Hickson documents his fight with Parkinson's and lessons he's learned over decades of combat martial arts

00:03:39.400 and how every man can use the art of invisible jiu-jitsu in his everyday life.

00:03:44.620 The last several years from the first time that you were on, and I imagine that you could not have considered

00:03:50.460 or thought about the health diagnosis that you've been dealing with over the past—how long has it been

00:03:55.280 since you were diagnosed with Parkinson's?

00:03:57.460 About four years.

00:03:59.300 Four years. Okay. Wow.

00:04:01.900 And is it—go ahead.

00:04:04.680 Yeah, it was a surprise for me, but I feel like it's important to adapt very quickly to the new reality

00:04:11.180 and deal with in a positive way.

00:04:14.380 Yeah. You said it wasn't a surprise.

00:04:17.080 Is this something that you've been dealing with or noticed signs of something happening for a while now, or what?

00:04:24.100 Yeah, little tremors and a little difference on the neurologic system.

00:04:29.740 And finally, I got diagnosed, and from then on, I started dealing with Parkinson's in a very,

00:04:35.660 very positive way because if I was following only what the doctors say,

00:04:41.600 I was just taking medicine and doing a little physiotherapy.

00:04:46.120 But I'm looking for different ways to dealing with in a more appropriate way and a more like strategic way.

00:04:53.380 So I stopped eating meat, I stopped drinking beer and wine, and I fast, I do supplements a lot,

00:05:03.960 I do physiotherapy more than what I should.

00:05:08.000 So I'm dealing with my new opponent in a very clear, positive way to—my idea is to beat Parkinson's.

00:05:15.240 I'm not sure if it's possible, but I'm confident enough and positive enough to deal with my life

00:05:21.560 in a way for me to relearn how to live and relearning habits

00:05:27.540 and making myself more motivated to teach the invisible jiu-jitsu,

00:05:33.220 which makes me feel like great, inspires me very deeply in terms of service to others,

00:05:40.100 you know, in terms of giving a feedback which is possible for anyone to build up on

00:05:44.940 and be positive and try to self-heal in yourself.

00:05:49.160 So I'm happy with—even though the situation is surprising and it's not exactly what I want,

00:05:56.660 I have to—when you have a problem, you have to resolve the problem.

00:06:00.100 When you have a problem who has no solution, you have to accept the problem and move on.

00:06:06.000 So, yeah.

00:06:07.700 Yes.

00:06:08.400 Oh, go ahead.

00:06:09.020 Go ahead.

00:06:09.360 Keep going.

00:06:10.100 In terms of acceptance, I feel like it's part of the tools of the spiritual warrior

00:06:14.940 to accept, to be patient, to be hopeful, to be faithful.

00:06:21.380 So I'm in a good path to keeping myself as a spiritual warrior.

00:06:29.000 Yeah, and I imagine you've got to take some level of comfort and solace

00:06:33.800 in knowing that regardless of the outcome, you are going to—I have no doubt of this,

00:06:38.860 just based on the limited way that I know you have positive impact on those other people

00:06:45.060 who are impacted by Parkinson's, where it's not just, hey, take this pill every day for the rest of your life,

00:06:50.740 and hopefully you can live a long, happy, you know, successful life.

00:06:54.060 But here are some key things that you can do that you can take control of over, and I imagine you being at the forefront of that probably brings you some level of purpose in the midst of a very, to put it mildly, uncomfortable situation.

00:07:10.520 Yes.

00:07:10.960 Yes, I always have the purpose to defeat my opponents through jiu-jitsu.

00:07:16.240 I always have the purpose to represent the art.

00:07:19.720 And as a martial artist, I feel like quitting is not an option.

00:07:23.620 And I wish people, average joes all over the world, can feel like they can think as a champion, they can think as a warrior to deal with their emotions, to deal with their problems, to deal with their stresses.

00:07:37.400 So it's possible through visualization, to strategy, to hope, to faith, through those elements, through those invisible tools, through breathing.

00:07:49.900 So those invisible tools can really put you on a positive aspect of life.

00:07:54.360 And even though you have problems, managing those problems, live with those problems, be capable to suppress those problems.

00:08:02.380 You should be committed to do that.

00:08:06.700 So I'm happy to inspire people in a sense where, you know, it's always good to work on the present moment, not thinking about the failure, but thinking always about the possibility to success.

00:08:22.620 When you were diagnosed with Parkinson's, did your doctors have anything to say as far as your lifestyle as a fighter, as a martial artist, that may have contributed to that?

00:08:36.240 Or is Parkinson's a matter of genetics or random unfortunate luck?

00:08:42.860 How does that happen?

00:08:44.620 Yeah.

00:08:44.860 I've never been explained what's the reasons I get that, because I'm not sure if there's any correlation with sports, with damaging, like getting bang on your head, concussions.

00:08:57.180 Right.

00:08:57.740 I'm not sure if it's related to that.

00:09:00.680 What I'm sure is when I get diagnosis, I felt like I have to be positive about it.

00:09:07.200 I have to start to deal with this, like I always live in jujitsu, you know, because a lot of things is the fear.

00:09:15.320 The anticipation, the stress, all those are subject to change depending on your choices.

00:09:22.700 So my choice is to deal with a very clear way, in a very positive way with the problem and be able to do everything in my hands to resolve the problem.

00:09:32.980 So I'm not there just waiting for the problem.

00:09:36.080 I'm not there passively.

00:09:38.840 I'm there patiently.

00:09:41.000 So patience is different than passivity, because patience, you wait for the time to strike or the time to do whatever you have to do.

00:09:50.080 Passivity, you lost opportunities to deal with the reality.

00:09:53.300 So I'm patiently waiting for whatever I have to do and be positive about overcoming the situation.

00:10:01.340 I think that's a really important distinction, the difference between passivity and patience, because those two terms, or at least the way we behave, gets conflated quite often.

00:10:12.620 You know, somebody who's not doing anything at all about their life to improve themselves might say, well, you know, I'm just being patient.

00:10:18.740 Another one that I often hear is, if it's God's will, it's like, well, God wants you to be active.

00:10:25.700 Yeah, sure, he wants you to be happy, but he also wants you to do your work, too.

00:10:30.340 And sometimes people shirk that responsibility, or the way that I look at it is put that on God when they're not willing to do anything themselves.

00:10:38.240 Definitely. I agree with you 100%, because passivity, you just lost momentum.

00:10:45.360 You lost, you're putting somebody else, your responsibilities.

00:10:50.880 But patience is give you the sense of the perfect timing to strike.

00:10:56.760 You know, like the lion behind the bush waiting for the zebra getting to the striking distance for him to make the cue.

00:11:02.800 So he's there patiently waiting the sharp moment for him to succeed.

00:11:09.340 So I'm patient in regard to the outcome.

00:11:13.320 I'm not distressed. I'm not overwhelmed with the situation.

00:11:17.920 I try to just be calm and comfortable with whatever I get, getting the opportunity to excel in my benefit.

00:11:25.820 So if I need a treatment, if I need a doctor I have to see in China, I go there. 1.00

00:11:30.700 So whatever I have to do to be sharp on the problem, to be fast on my results, I will do.

00:11:39.960 I'm not passive. I'm just patient.

00:11:43.140 Yeah. I see this on the mats.

00:11:45.600 A good friend of mine and fellow co-host with this podcast, his name is Kip Sorensen, and he's a jiu-jitsu black belt.

00:11:53.300 He's been training for about 14 years, if I remember correctly, maybe a little bit less, maybe 12 years or so.

00:11:58.980 But he's really long-limbed. He's got these long arms and these long legs, and he's very technical.

00:12:05.200 And when I roll with him, he's thinking 9, 10, 11, 12 moves out ahead.

00:12:11.640 And so he'll do something where I think, oh, I've got him.

00:12:14.500 And just when I think I've got him, he does what he meant to do three minutes ago that he was teeing me up for the entire time.

00:12:24.180 But he was patiently waiting for me to fall into his trap.

00:12:27.520 And I think that illustrates perfectly not only the concept you're talking about, but if I understand correctly, the concept of invisible jiu-jitsu.

00:12:35.420 Definitely, yes.

00:12:37.900 And what I feel like amazing about jiu-jitsu is the fact you can have any problems in your lap.

00:12:45.340 When you get into the mat to practice jiu-jitsu, you have to leave all the problems outside.

00:12:52.380 You have to leave the moment.

00:12:53.660 You have to be present.

00:12:54.580 You have to be sharp in your decisions because if you're not present, if you're not living the moment, you're just lost very quickly if your mind is in a different spot.

00:13:08.120 So something we need today, the humanity as a whole, is to be present because we pretty much dehumanize ourselves through the internet, through the robotics, through the websites.

00:13:20.380 So the idea of living the presence, present, gives you a sense of now, which impairs your ability to, I mean, to support your ability to respond to the now immediately.

00:13:38.340 And that's a very important aspect for martial arts.

00:13:42.100 Be positive in your life.

00:13:43.420 You become more present, more sensitive to the reality, and be able to respond that more accurately.

00:13:51.220 How do you personally manage that?

00:13:53.860 Because I imagine with your health situation, it would be easy for fear to creep in.

00:13:59.880 But I also imagine throughout your life, as you're preparing for a fight, obviously the fear creeps in.

00:14:06.540 There's real-world consequences to everything you've done in life.

00:14:10.580 That fear has to creep in.

00:14:12.060 How do you personally manage that when you start to get these negative voices or the voice of doubt or all of the toxic thoughts that I know are likely to come up?

00:14:23.240 I'm sure they are.

00:14:24.220 Yeah, fear for me, I understand as my best friend.

00:14:29.120 Because prepare me to the situation which I'm not prepared for.

00:14:34.660 So fear gives me the sense of take care of myself or not putting my hand there because it's going to get hot.

00:14:40.920 Or don't go this way without the gasoline enough to make the whole trip.

00:14:44.540 So fear prepares me for the negative outcomes.

00:14:49.700 But the courage makes me control fear and put the fear on the shelf where I need it.

00:14:56.140 So as I prepare myself for a fight, I'm afraid to lose from my possible opponent.

00:15:02.440 So I will study strategically what it is to do good, what it is to do bad, what are my chances here, my chances.

00:15:10.180 So I'm using the fear to inspire me to be at my best.

00:15:14.160 I cannot just be overconfident.

00:15:16.740 But at the moment I'm in the locker room, I decide to change my mode, to not be afraid anymore, and to just commit to do what I have to do.

00:15:26.860 And at this point, fear becomes nothing for me.

00:15:29.720 I control fear, and my courage takes over, and I go for whatever I have to do.

00:15:37.220 Because the mindset gives you the chance to choose.

00:15:43.240 Fear is a state of mind who keeps you in an insecure plan, insecure state of mind.

00:15:49.320 And if you let the fear take over, you lost track of whatever you have to do.

00:15:54.560 But if you're afraid to empower yourself, and in the time you need it, you're in control of your fears, you're in the best world because you prepare yourself rationally, intelligently, to whatever the problem can be.

00:16:11.660 But at the time, you surrender the whole fear to God and be able to be inspired to excel yourself.

00:16:19.700 I think that's a really good way to frame it because I think a lot of times what people will do is they'll try to reject fear and push it aside.

00:16:29.840 You know, when they're afraid to speak in public or afraid to step onto that mat or into that ring or, you know, whatever, or, you know, talk with their wife about an issue they're having.

00:16:41.080 They pretend as if they're not afraid, but you're not saying that.

00:16:45.180 What you're saying is, no, I am afraid.

00:16:47.720 It's an ally of mine, and I'm going to use that to train more, to be better prepared, and to create better opportunities for myself is what I'm hearing you say.

00:16:59.700 Yes, because in order for you to be in your highest level of performance, no matter if it's physical or mental, you have to be afraid of making mistakes.

00:17:11.980 You have to be afraid of not knowing something you should know.

00:17:14.900 So you have to be prepared.

00:17:17.160 The fear helps you help you to prepare.

00:17:19.040 But at one point, like, for example, visualization.

00:17:23.660 Visualization is a tool for you to put fear in perspective.

00:17:28.460 That means I'm visualizing how I'm going to fight somebody tomorrow who is 50 pounds heavier than me, 10 years old.

00:17:36.760 In that visualization, I can see everything I could not do, my expectations, how I pretend to take the fight over whatever.

00:17:46.720 And then I'm visualizing an easy victory.

00:17:49.340 I'm visualizing a hard victory.

00:17:51.120 I'm visualizing a victory, which I almost have it, and I slip to my hands, and I lost by very small distance.

00:17:59.620 I'm visualizing the fight.

00:18:01.380 I get punched in the head, get passed out, and still, like, surviving dizzy, but still handle the fort until my dizziness get over and win.

00:18:12.440 So I can picture many different ways to win, the difficult way, the easy way, the possible way.

00:18:19.660 I can also think about losing the fight, and I can also think about dying trying to win the fight.

00:18:27.080 So all those elements, even the ones I don't want it to happen, I already visualize.

00:18:32.700 I already prepare myself for.

00:18:34.900 So it's not going to be something I'm not expecting.

00:18:38.100 It's something in my ballgame, in my way to see it, which is possible.

00:18:44.420 So acceptance of death is a commitment I have with myself based on my reality.

00:18:51.800 I don't see myself tapping.

00:18:54.680 I see my brothers taking the towel to take me from the bad fight.

00:19:00.640 But I don't see myself.

00:19:01.960 I don't go there to quit.

00:19:03.260 Quit is not an option for me. 0.95

00:19:04.580 So I'm going there to die trying.

00:19:08.800 Like a Navy SEAL, when he goes for a mission, he has all the support, the friends, the things for him to go and complete the mission. 0.89

00:19:18.760 But they know in their hearts something can go wrong, and they can get shot in that queue.

00:19:24.460 And that doesn't make them feel, like, afraid to do.

00:19:27.800 They're just accepting the fact they have to die trying.

00:19:31.940 He's going to be honorable.

00:19:33.240 He's going to be nice.

00:19:34.480 He's going to be something they're not looking for, but they're proud to be if the case happens.

00:19:39.900 So there's no way for you to put this guy to back out, because he's not afraid to die trying whatever he has to do.

00:19:47.540 So I put myself in the same group.

00:19:50.920 My life was not as important than my mission.

00:19:54.340 My mission of representing jiu-jitsu, my mission of being to the end in a fight, is something which makes me proud and happy,

00:20:05.540 even though I can go for the terminal decision of killing myself.

00:20:09.460 So that's something which makes me feel happy to be able to accomplish.

00:20:16.420 That's an interesting take.

00:20:18.580 Before you said that last part about – and I really – I can really resonate with what you're saying.

00:20:24.580 My mission is more important than my life.

00:20:27.500 I was going to ask you before you said that.

00:20:29.900 I think it's easier for men to see how a Navy SEAL, for example, to use your example, would be willing to die for the cause.

00:20:39.460 But I think it's harder for most men, even myself, to wrap my head around the idea of you getting into a match to fight somebody that you'd literally be willing to die in order to fight your hardest, to come out on top, to come out victorious.

00:20:58.720 But you said your mission is more important than your life.

00:21:03.760 How did you get to that point?

00:21:05.640 Because for me, maybe 60% of my professional career, I fight people with no weight division, no time limits.

00:21:15.720 Right.

00:21:16.240 No set of rules can be on the asphalt, can be on the grass, can be on the cement.

00:21:23.320 So the idea of being unpredictable takes me to endless levels of worries and concerns.

00:21:32.280 And fighting with a guy who is heavier than you, who is meaner, and who tries to bang you against the asphalt with the head, you can get killed.

00:21:40.660 So if I'm scared of the outcome, I cannot even think about trying. 0.99

00:21:44.940 So I say, I don't give a shit if something happens with me. 0.98

00:21:49.220 I'm worried. 0.99

00:21:50.120 I'm concerned to do my mission.

00:21:52.000 I'm very focused on doing what I have to do.

00:21:54.100 So the idea of being free physically, spiritually, to do whatever you have to do and put yourself at risk is a commitment.

00:22:05.240 Very few people have, very few professions have, you know, because if you're a fireman, you know you have the problems to save a child from the 10th level of a building and fire.

00:22:17.480 You know you can get killed trying.

00:22:19.720 That's part of your job.

00:22:20.940 And if you're not comfortable with that feeling, you should not be a fireman because you're just going to have to be prepared to do the task.

00:22:31.000 So as you live your life, you start to build up under your circumstances.

00:22:37.580 If you're a fireman, you're not going to be thinking like a nurse.

00:22:41.900 But if you're a doctor in a warfare, in a front war, you have to think a different mentality.

00:22:50.920 You could be a doctor living in California, but you're a doctor living in Iran.

00:22:56.460 So your risk, the level of performance, the level of risk you have are different.

00:23:05.180 So you have to be concerned, but you also have to be prepared and accepting all the things you choose for.

00:23:13.040 So I don't say everybody has to be choosing to be a champion and dying for whatever you believe.

00:23:20.240 I say you should have a purpose, and with that purpose, you should put all your strategy to help you to achieve that purpose.

00:23:29.720 And in a few cases, the purpose can put you in a life-threatening situation.

00:23:34.520 If you want to go to the Everest, if you want to do something crazy, you don't have to be in action, in a dangerous action.

00:23:43.680 You can just fly from hang gliders or do something crazy.

00:23:48.300 You can get killed.

00:23:49.880 And everything you put in perspective, you choose to do that because you love, you're motivated to do.

00:23:55.880 So if something happens, it's important for you to, in your mind, accept that outcome because that's part of what you choose, you know.

00:24:05.360 Yeah, do you feel like with your family lineage and obviously the Gracie name, do you feel like you chose that purpose or that mission?

00:24:16.840 Because I don't know if there's a family that I can think of, maybe in the realm of politics, you know, some of these dynasties we hear of.

00:24:25.320 I'm not sure I can think of a family that has built the type of legacy and lineage that your family has.

00:24:33.540 And are those individual decisions or are those just heavily emphasized directives, if you will, of this is the way Gracie's behave and this is what we do?

00:24:44.420 Yes.

00:24:45.020 When you're born, I get my kimono before I get my diapers.

00:24:49.980 Right, right.

00:24:50.940 So you become already guided to belong to a family, to be part of a movement, which is jiu-jitsu, self-defense.

00:25:05.220 This kind of representation means a lot to us because if I don't believe in what I teach, how I can teach.

00:25:15.300 So in order for me to teach confident, can survive, you can be protected for yourself from an attack.

00:25:23.020 I have to put myself at front of the pack and say, if you want to try, try on me because let's see if you can hurt me.

00:25:31.700 If you can hurt me, you can hurt my students.

00:25:33.640 But if I can represent, if I can win, I'm, you know, I'm in a comfortable position to keep teaching my students, to keep representing the family and the legacy.

00:25:43.180 So the idea of being a special Gracie is inflicted in all of us, but not all of us can represent because the reality is on the mat, one will win, the other one will lose.

00:25:58.080 So I'm comfortable with my ability on the mat since I have six years old and participated in my first competition.

00:26:04.840 But other cousins and relatives, they don't have the same practice, they don't have the same ability, they don't have the same confidence.

00:26:15.040 And I don't make them feel like, oh, you have to represent, go there, kill yourself.

00:26:19.280 No, it's not like that.

00:26:20.480 So as you grow as a Gracie, you start to put yourself in a chain of organized hierarchy.

00:26:29.740 And if you're not up to the task, it's better to keep training, it's better to keep reinforcing, it's better to keep teaching jiu-jitsu, but you're not able to fight.

00:26:40.740 So I'm one of the few ones who are able to fight in a very early age.

00:26:45.180 So I've always been feeling like I'm the best I know in my age.

00:26:51.260 I should represent the family.

00:26:53.100 So that's my position to carry on my torch because I was able to do it.

00:27:02.840 So I put myself with the commitment on the mission.

00:27:07.900 But it's not exactly represents all the family members because some, they feel like they not feel quite capable to do for many different reasons.

00:27:19.120 Man, let me take a step away from the conversation very briefly.

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00:28:18.200 Do that right after the conversation.

00:28:19.980 For now, let's finish up the conversation with Hickson.

00:28:22.520 And it sounds like, based on what you're saying, those family members, at least by yourself, aren't looked down upon necessarily.

00:28:30.340 You just feel like you're going to rise to the top when it comes to your ability to protect and fight relative to somebody else

00:28:39.460 might have a different skill set within your family.

00:28:42.280 Definitely, yes.

00:28:43.160 Do you feel like your diagnosis with Parkinson's disease has impacted your identity at all?

00:28:53.200 Because it would be easy for me on the outside looking in to feel like you may have tied all of your identity

00:28:59.180 and your ability to protect and fight up in that, in being a fighter, if you will, for, you might correct me on the term.

00:29:07.020 And then now, all of a sudden, you're diagnosed with a health condition that certainly physically limits you in your ability to fight combatively.

00:29:16.440 Yeah, that's a great question because the Parkinson doesn't change me, change my abilities, change my mechanics, change the way I deal with mobility.

00:29:29.640 But I keep a water in my mind, and then I start to realize the tools I'm still using daily as a martial artist.

00:29:39.180 And I get very motivated to pass this to others.

00:29:43.160 Like in my second book, my idea is to how I can use Parkinson's to inspire myself to do something.

00:29:53.780 So now I'm focused on the invisible jiu-jitsu, which is related to breathing, which is related to strategy, which is related to hope and faith and some kind of other positions.

00:30:10.140 Because the invisible jiu-jitsu is not there because you have to believe in what I'm saying, but you have to feel it, what I'm trying to say.

00:30:17.960 So it's invisible because it's not in a picture you cannot see, but it's very, you're able to see, to feel the difference and say, wow, I make such a difference to have this and that instead of this or that.

00:30:32.180 So in that invisible jiu-jitsu gives the sense of how to empower people without the physicality.

00:30:39.100 Because if you start to breathe properly, if you start to believe in proper things, if you start to understand the mechanics, you don't have to fight to win.

00:30:51.260 Because in a big part of my career, I was fighting to win.

00:30:57.100 And that was something I'm proud and happy about it.

00:31:00.340 But from that point in my life ahead, I have to win without a fight, which makes me happy too, in a different circumstance, because I outsmart my opponents, I get better conclusions, I make better decisions, I'm avoiding problems, I have better strategies to deal with my strategies.

00:31:23.320 So I make myself more capable to use the invisible aspects of jiu-jitsu and still motivated to pass this to others.

00:31:32.120 So I'm still a master, changing a little bit the perspective of my abilities, but very motivated to still inspire people and serve people in the way they need the most.

00:31:43.540 And I feel like the invisible jiu-jitsu can be much more acceptable and usable for average people than actually the physical jiu-jitsu, which demands from you your guts, your toughness, your competitiveness.

00:32:00.740 So it's still good to build you up in a very good way, build your character, but you have to have the elements to enjoy that practice.

00:32:10.040 But on the other hand, the invisible jiu-jitsu gives you a sense of self-defense, mobilities and angles for you to simplify your athleticism and maximize your effectiveness.

00:32:24.120 Give you a sense of, I'm not a fighter, I never will be a fighter, but I can survive if guys try to choke me, or I can escape, or I can have a chance to keep my distance.

00:32:33.840 So you start to use different elements to explore and get advantages, which means you don't have to fight to win, but you can win without a fight.

00:32:44.980 Give you an example for that.

00:32:47.680 You're living from the movie theater with your wife and have a 10-minute walk to the parking lot.

00:32:55.060 But in the other way, you have five-minute shortcut through the alley.

00:32:59.020 So as you get into the alley, you see a gang of bangers and tough guys and drinking and noisy and problems.

00:33:09.320 So you're going to be smarter to say, sweetheart, let's go back to the main street.

00:33:12.960 Let's go walk the 10 minutes. 0.60

00:33:15.140 You're going to be silly if you're a tough guy and say, let's go this way because I'm going to show I'm Hickson Grace.

00:33:20.300 I'm not afraid of nothing. 0.98

00:33:22.020 Let's go. 0.98

00:33:22.720 And I can get killed. 1.00

00:33:23.900 I can get stabbed. 1.00

00:33:24.760 My wife can get problems. 1.00

00:33:26.700 So I'm bringing problems to myself because sometimes I'm overconfident and overphysical.

00:33:34.140 So the idea of winning without a fight makes you shortcut different situations, sometimes apologizing.

00:33:40.920 Another day, a jiu-jitsu world champion got killed in a nightclub in Brazil with a shot in the head.

00:33:47.060 And the guy tried to just get his beer for purpose because the guy already not liking the guy and tried to kill the guy.

00:33:57.280 So he gave him a reason to fight.

00:33:59.320 And as the guy started to fight, he got shot and get killed.

00:34:03.000 So the champion supposed to know more about martial arts.

00:34:07.660 He's too much an athlete.

00:34:08.980 But he's not a martial art because martial arts will give you the sense to say, hey, man, I'm sorry.

00:34:15.060 Because he's a champion.

00:34:16.320 He don't have to prove nothing to beat somebody on the street.

00:34:20.080 But he can get stabbed from his friend.

00:34:22.260 He can get a hundred problems. 0.96

00:34:25.260 He can get in jail if he gets the guy, beat the guy.

00:34:28.620 So for him, it's not a smart idea to try to resolve the problem with his hands.

00:34:34.940 And he proved that's right because he got killed.

00:34:38.740 So if he say, oh, man, I'm sorry, Apollo, that's a beer you want, please, drink another beer for the guy here.

00:34:44.420 So if he can resolve the problem in a much gentle way, but because he has a big ego, because he has this idea of being able to destroy anyone he touches,

00:34:55.160 sometimes he takes that hard mentality to the street, and he can get stabbed by a teenager with 14 years old who stabbed him on the back.

00:35:04.980 So it's not fair.

00:35:07.520 It's about being a martial artist and know how to prevent problems and know how to anticipate,

00:35:12.060 because sometimes you have to fight to win, but sometimes you have to win without a fight.

00:35:19.280 Well, I like this distinction.

00:35:20.740 And not only that, but ironically, I imagine that the invisible jujitsu that you're talking about not only helps you with ordinary everyday life,

00:35:29.700 but it probably actually makes you a better fighter, too.

00:35:33.360 You know, I think about somebody coming in, and I remember when I was a white belt and I went to my first one or two classes,

00:35:39.540 and I've always been fairly athletic, and so I just thought I can just bully people.

00:35:45.020 Yeah, I can just push them around.

00:35:46.180 I can use my strength, and I can bully people, and I found out that, no, for me, learning to conserve my energy and be smart was going to be way more effective

00:35:56.000 than just trying to wrestle people and fight people with my strength that maybe were not quite as strong as me,

00:36:02.440 but certainly more talented or more skilled than I was.

00:36:08.400 So that invisible jujitsu serves – it's a principle.

00:36:11.140 It serves broadly rather than just one application.

00:36:14.320 Yes.

00:36:15.480 I feel like the invisible jujitsu is the part of jujitsu who gives you more sense of being a martial artist

00:36:21.960 because the physicality of jujitsu is very sportive, it's very dynamic, but it's simple.

00:36:31.140 You just become an athlete.

00:36:33.280 And martial arts is different because you have to put a lot of things in perspective, you know.

00:36:40.100 And I believe the warrior or the spiritual warrior has to have the tools of martial arts.

00:36:48.380 Patience in one of them, strategy.

00:36:51.300 Some positions, for example, like base.

00:36:59.760 Base is something very important for jujitsu.

00:37:03.360 Create the idea of being base.

00:37:05.880 But base is mobile.

00:37:08.200 You cannot keep the same base for different positions.

00:37:11.400 You have to adapt your base to adjust.

00:37:15.320 So base represents balance.

00:37:20.880 But base also represents – when you're in an argument with somebody,

00:37:25.600 you can talk about jujitsu, you can talk about podcasts,

00:37:29.460 but sometimes you don't know about astrology or physics.

00:37:34.600 So if you don't have base in physics, you have to shut up and listen.

00:37:38.520 So that's a good teaching from the martial arts perspective.

00:37:42.660 The base can be a metaphor for life.

00:37:44.560 How much base I have to talk about this.

00:37:47.240 How much base I have to keep my reason on that subject.

00:37:52.660 So base can be physical or it can be mental or it can be emotional.

00:38:00.180 So breathing.

00:38:01.120 Breathing helps you to deal a big deal of your life. 0.99

00:38:06.020 Because when you're born and get slapped on your butt, 0.98

00:38:08.660 you think you're already breathing well and ready for life. 0.99

00:38:13.680 But you're not.

00:38:15.220 You're learning how to breathe with your shallow breath.

00:38:18.480 That's very emotional, very claustrophobic.

00:38:21.240 And you cannot handle pressure.

00:38:23.160 You cannot handle high levels of activity through the shallow breath.

00:38:28.360 In the modern tennis today, you see guys,

00:38:31.040 because they breathe properly for the motions they do.

00:38:39.700 Like boxes, they have to do jujitsu guys, they have to excel all the time.

00:38:45.280 So when I learned how to breathe was a big universe happens to me.

00:38:50.180 I get at least 40% of better approach to deal with my opponents, my mind, my heart, than I was before.

00:38:59.440 And I've always been an athlete.

00:39:00.580 But after learning how to breathe properly was a huge difference in my life.

00:39:06.040 So that's invisible.

00:39:09.200 You cannot see, but you can feel it.

00:39:12.380 Base, leverage, connection.

00:39:15.020 Connection, for example.

00:39:16.140 The same way you can connect with your opponent and anticipate a throw or something.

00:39:20.460 Connection, you get into a place, you connect with the environment.

00:39:24.340 Say, oh, this is bad energy here.

00:39:25.920 I don't like this ambient.

00:39:27.760 I'm going to leave this.

00:39:29.420 So connection, allow yourself to connect with that.

00:39:32.640 When you shake somebody's hand and the guy gives you a soft hand, like not squeezing.

00:39:37.780 So as you grab his hand, you say, well, this guy has something wrong.

00:39:41.180 He not even grabbed my hand with certainty, with belief.

00:39:48.180 So the connection means from the way you look at somebody, you have to connect and you have to use your intuition too.

00:39:56.280 So a lot of invisible elements, they're supposed to be there to help you as a martial artist.

00:40:03.640 So if you are just an athlete, you're just thinking about the escape, the solution, the choke.

00:40:09.080 But if you're a martial artist, you try to see the whole picture, see the sense of humor,

00:40:15.840 see the nervous breakdown, see the anticipation, see the claustrophobic feelings.

00:40:23.620 So the idea of being a martial artist gives you the sense of you cannot let anything unattended or unsupervised.

00:40:33.260 You have to see all the elements and see if it's better for you to apologize or for you to complain or if it's to accept.

00:40:41.560 So the idea of being responsive, the idea of using the elements of invisible, tools of the invisible warrior,

00:40:52.440 supposed to be present all the time in your life.

00:40:56.940 It is interesting.

00:40:58.760 I've noticed that when you're training with somebody, you can tell a lot about a person just by spending two minutes on the mat with them.

00:41:07.520 Yes.

00:41:08.640 You know, you can tell if they're trying, if they're used to bullying and getting their way and it doesn't work on the mats.

00:41:14.320 Or you can tell if they're passive and weak and scared and it won't work.

00:41:18.720 Or if they're just trying to be totally tactical without any level of strength, it probably won't work.

00:41:24.780 Like it's such a well-rounded thing and you can start to extrapolate and isolate what are the deficiencies in other people

00:41:31.860 and also what are the deficiencies in you?

00:41:34.640 I 100% agree with that because there's no way for you to hide yourself on the mat.

00:41:40.840 Because there, everybody dresses the same.

00:41:44.780 Everybody puts their belt around the waist.

00:41:47.120 And you have to prove yourself every day.

00:41:49.040 You have to show yourself calm enough, smart enough, technical enough, resilient enough with your heart. 0.95

00:41:56.760 And if you're a coward, you're going to show.

00:41:58.820 If you're aggressive, you're going to show.

00:42:00.980 So there's no way for you to hide your emotions and your personality.

00:42:06.620 Because at one point, you're going to get desperate.

00:42:08.680 At one point, you're going to get claustrophobic.

00:42:10.980 At one point, you're going to get agony.

00:42:12.680 And all this has to be, you have to show. 0.88

00:42:17.820 And sometimes a strong guy with ugly face could cry like a baby.

00:42:22.980 And a very small guy can be resilient as a tough guy and never quit and very optimistic about success.

00:42:32.320 So I see all the demonstrations of personalities in the mat.

00:42:36.680 And I feel like Jiu-Jitsu starts to put you in the perspective of, like, in the realistic universe.

00:42:44.560 See what is missing there for you, you know.

00:42:46.800 You see, I get too nervous.

00:42:49.320 I lost coordination.

00:42:50.820 When I get problems, I shook myself and I could not do.

00:42:56.000 Or I was having the opportunity and I didn't catch.

00:42:59.320 It was a lack of timing and sharpness to be aggressive.

00:43:05.040 I don't have the killer instinct.

00:43:07.360 So many problems can happen.

00:43:09.600 And you start to, by practice, build yourself under this kind of realistic ground, which favors you in a tremendous way to improve, you know, because it's for real.

00:43:22.440 So if you stick with the practice, you're going to get a better person.

00:43:26.020 You're going to get sharper.

00:43:27.040 You're going to get calmer.

00:43:28.060 You're going to get it.

00:43:29.220 So it's beneficial.

00:43:30.820 But it's hard for you to keep going on this pursuit, you know.

00:43:33.800 Yeah, no, it definitely is.

00:43:36.540 Well, one of the things in the book that I really stood out to me was the chapter where you talk about feeling and not thinking.

00:43:43.800 And I've seen a lot of people try to think their way through situations or circumstances or maybe even overthink to the point where they don't take action.

00:43:55.880 And what I liked about in the book is you're talking more about just the intuition that I think so many men, they don't consider or they don't put enough weight or emphasis behind your intuition in just feeling things.

00:44:10.260 Like, for example, you just said earlier, you know, being in an environment where it feels like there's bad energy, like you don't need to look around and think if you're feeling it, something's telling you whether it's God or you're some sort of sixth sense that we might have.

00:44:24.540 Something is telling you this is not a good environment and you don't need to think about it.

00:44:28.700 You already feel it, so just accept it and find a different way home.

00:44:33.140 Yes, I agree.

00:44:34.860 People have sometimes the idea of not respecting their intuition.

00:44:42.480 And I believe through breathing, through an idea of meditation, you increase that potential because you become more quiet inside and you're able to hear what is the word have to offer with more perfection.

00:44:58.360 So the idea of intuition, I really respect my intuition.

00:45:02.760 I really obey my subconscious when they command something for me.

00:45:07.900 I'm not taking nothing for granted.

00:45:10.660 So the idea I have about people can even change immediately based on the experience I live.

00:45:20.820 So I can have a profound admiration for somebody.

00:45:24.840 If I met him today and I see him sitting on the table for lunch and the waiter come and serve him water and he don't even look into the guy and not say thank you, I'm going to get an impression from the guy, you know.

00:45:39.560 So this guy is very, he's a very smart, very important, very rich, but he don't have gratitude in his heart.

00:45:46.740 He does not thank you for the guy who gave him water.

00:45:48.960 He thinks he needs to be served without getting, without saying thank you, you know.

00:45:58.160 So that's a problem.

00:45:59.160 By his personal attitudes, I can maybe downgrade my admiration for the guy just based on how he responds to a waiter or how he say thank you for his employee or if he don't say nothing.

00:46:16.120 So the idea of analyzing people gives me the sense of I have to be on top of what I should do with this guy because he showed me this and that.

00:46:26.520 So I don't want to be aggressive, but I have to make him understand I don't agree with him.

00:46:33.200 So my intuition gives me the sense where I should not be blind and respect the guy just because he's famous, just because he's rich, just because he has power.

00:46:43.220 For me, he has to be not a tyrant, but a leader.

00:46:49.300 He has to be something who inspires me to follow him.

00:46:52.940 And if something goes wrong, I lost my ability to admire the guy.

00:46:58.780 I will respect that and I will follow my intuition to not follow him anymore or not.

00:47:04.280 So my intuition guide me to the points I feel like energy is very important, very relevant to myself, positive energy, negative energy.

00:47:14.600 So all this makes account for me to know what I'm going to do next and how I'm going to.

00:47:21.120 In terms of business and contracts, it's not about the contract you sign with people.

00:47:26.280 It's about who you sign contracts with.

00:47:28.840 So no matter what you put in the paper, things can be changed, turned over, and you can be in a problem.

00:47:37.360 So that's why you have to have the intuition to relate yourself and negotiate yourself with people you can trust, people you feel like, regardless of the paper, going to give you a sense of respect and equally and being good.

00:47:53.480 So for me, I obey my intuition more than anything.

00:47:59.840 So with regards to that, I think a lot of the times it's easy to conflate your intuition with fear.

00:48:09.800 And so your intuition might be saying, hey, be careful.

00:48:13.920 And so if you listen to it that way, you might back out of, let's say, a lucrative financial investment, for example.

00:48:24.140 But really, all it was wasn't really your intuition telling you something was off.

00:48:28.520 It was just a level of fear that you had because maybe you're investing more than you would typically be comfortable with.

00:48:34.340 So how do you differentiate between when your intuition is telling you something is truly off and you're just afraid because you're in a new realm of life?

00:48:45.700 Yes.

00:48:47.040 You can make intelligent conclusions.

00:48:49.880 You can be rational.

00:48:51.940 And all this has to be part of your ultimate strategy.

00:48:56.760 You cannot let reason out of the loop.

00:49:00.660 You cannot let.

00:49:01.480 So you have to keep everything in perspective.

00:49:06.300 And at the end of the whole picture, you have to have something which is the touch of God in it.

00:49:19.800 So I have all the elements to say yes, but you know what?

00:49:24.460 I'm going to pass that.

00:49:25.460 I'm going to say no.

00:49:26.220 I have all the elements to say no, but my gut feelings say I should invest on this because this can give me some.

00:49:34.480 So in other hands, you have to obey your intuition after all the conclusions, after all the reasons, after all these emotions, after all the fear.

00:49:44.800 Your intuition has to guide you over the fear because, again, your intuition has to have courage.

00:49:53.060 To be intuitive, you have to be courageous.

00:49:56.280 You cannot be a coward. 0.98

00:49:58.620 Cowards doesn't have intuition. 0.92

00:50:01.280 They have fear.

00:50:02.380 Courageous people.

00:50:05.740 And I also, I'll go ahead.

00:50:07.280 They accept the fear as a lie.

00:50:10.900 And they control the fear.

00:50:12.480 And then they're on top of this control, say, now what?

00:50:15.440 I should go this way or that way?

00:50:17.940 And then in my hands, I say, I should hold today because tomorrow is going to.

00:50:21.640 So whatever decisions I make with my intuition coming out after all the reasons, all the subjects, all the strategies are made.

00:50:34.820 Yeah, I like that you're talking about being well-rounded.

00:50:38.500 So you're not relying too heavily on your intuition and forgetting the rational side of your brain and approach that, you know, I think about it, for example, in the context of love.

00:50:49.620 It's easy to fall in love with people.

00:50:52.800 You know, I hear from guys every single day.

00:50:54.600 They're like, I'm in love.

00:50:55.340 I'm in love.

00:50:55.800 I'm in love.

00:50:56.180 And I'm like, well, what about these four or five things that that person's not in alignment with what you want?

00:51:01.740 Well, it doesn't matter because I'm in love.

00:51:03.100 Well, it kind of actually matters.

00:51:06.420 You can love a person who has values and ideals and dreams that are completely antithetical to yours.

00:51:12.820 You ought to take that side into consideration, too.

00:51:15.440 But then on the flip side, I see a lot of people who see all these red flags in a potential significant other, and they just completely ignore them and do it anyways.

00:51:28.040 And it's like, well, what about all those red flags?

00:51:29.800 Oh, we'll work through that.

00:51:31.000 No, you won't work through that.

00:51:32.700 You can't work through that.

00:51:33.920 But you're not listening to your intuition.

00:51:36.180 You're just doing it anyways.

00:51:37.320 Yes, I feel like you have the reasons to get doubts about something, but you sometimes say, no, my pleasure or my desire is bigger than my doubts.

00:51:50.740 So you're not respecting your intuition, you're not respecting your profound ability to have to live with because you think things are going to change as they get older or people are going to change.

00:52:04.060 But it's not like that.

00:52:04.940 People don't change much.

00:52:06.020 So if you see a lack of something you don't agree in the beginning of the relationship, you should not insist on that.

00:52:15.560 You should be reasonable enough to accept there are differences, and you can maybe talk with the difference and see how willing people to change.

00:52:25.020 But if you feel like it's hardcore to make the change, you have to accept this is not going to be a long-term relationship.

00:52:32.560 It has to be something fun, but it has like a terminal state because you're not going to be able to live the rest of your life under this insecure or uncomfortable state.

00:52:48.260 Ironically, I think a lot of those relationships like that where they stay with a person are fear-driven.

00:52:54.120 For example, it might be, well, I don't know if I could find somebody else, and I'm afraid to be alone.

00:53:00.940 Maybe they won't even voice that, but subconsciously, it's all coming from a place of fear is where it's coming from.

00:53:07.500 Yeah, sometimes I don't want to lose my house.

00:53:10.740 Right, yeah, exactly.

00:53:12.180 Yeah.

00:53:13.180 Yeah, so those are the negative fears, you know, because the first important thing for you is to feel yourself in charge of your own destiny.

00:53:23.540 And in control of your own way.

00:53:27.740 So if the problem is the house, give the house to the wife and start to buy a new life and a different thing and trying to buy another house, trying to find yourself happy in a different way. 0.70

00:53:41.320 Because, you know, people get sometimes too attached to money or to finances or to status or to what you look like posting on the internet.

00:53:53.900 There's a lot of ego-driving situations which doesn't translate the reality of your life.

00:53:59.420 So it's important to be honest with yourself and be willing to renegotiate everything, any point, then just stay fixed on the deal.

00:54:11.900 Because you don't want to regret, it's too hard to train, to change now.

00:54:18.640 Let's keep like this.

00:54:20.000 I prefer to be unhappy in the house than happy outside.

00:54:23.660 So people start to make more conclusions and that's very sad.

00:54:31.120 It leads a little bit into, I think, the chapter where you talk a lot about rules of engagement.

00:54:36.000 And I think that's important because I've seen a lot of men who will – maybe to go to another example with women specifically is guys will – you'll hear them say,

00:54:45.560 oh, you know, I got caught up in the moment and then they end up, for example, cheating on their spouse or the person they love.

00:54:53.600 I think it's really crucial that we figure out some rules in which we're going to operate before we're emotionally or mentally or physically compromised.

00:55:03.280 What do you say about that chapter when it comes to rules of engagement?

00:55:06.200 I feel like in any situation, regardless if it's business, if it's emotional, the idea of engaging is something which we have to focus on.

00:55:25.520 Not only the actual emotions, but you have to also engage reasonably to become rational about it, to become philosophical about it.

00:55:40.860 Because the engagement has parts, has the physical part, has the emotional, mental part, and has the spiritual part.

00:55:49.120 So for me, I've been seeking to get this balance between my spiritual, my physical, and my mental.

00:55:57.920 And that balance requires for me to stay aligned with people who have the same ability to looking for that.

00:56:06.840 So relationships are made with common things to be.

00:56:13.300 Like, for example, if I go engage with somebody.

00:56:16.500 Like, I'm an athlete, I have a very much restricted kind of life, my nutrition values.

00:56:25.540 So the time I have to sleep, my workouts.

00:56:29.060 So I have everything structured.

00:56:32.820 I find a beautiful girl who loves me dearly, who makes great love with me.

00:56:40.840 We are in passion.

00:56:41.720 But at this point, she loves to go at night every night.

00:56:46.140 She smokes cigarettes.

00:56:48.940 And she goes all the time to traveling a lot. 0.64

00:56:56.520 So I can see this pattern is not going to fit on what I need to rely on the stability of my relationship.

00:57:04.920 So with that being said, I have to be reasonable and create a situation where, okay, we can make the rules of engagement is no commitment.

00:57:16.940 Let's have fun.

00:57:18.420 Whenever you are available in the city, we can go out.

00:57:21.280 Whenever I'm available, I can go out with you.

00:57:23.640 But if I'm traveling, if you're traveling, we have no strength attached.

00:57:28.580 We can do whatever.

00:57:29.900 So it's an open relationship.

00:57:31.940 That's okay.

00:57:33.780 But I cannot expect having a tight relationship, a loyal, respectful relationship, focus on people in my life, which is she not.

00:57:44.220 So I can adjust that relationship to a short term, just having fun for tonight.

00:57:49.980 I can get a medium relationship.

00:57:51.960 Okay, let's have fun every time we're here and find ourselves medium in this country or whatever.

00:58:00.380 Or I can have some tight relationship where the lady is going to live with me and we're going to have kids and we're going to have family. 1.00

00:58:07.760 But as I decide to make family with this, I have reasonably the idea of putting hair as the center of my life and not having the engagement with hair and allow myself to be free on the other side.

00:58:23.020 So it becomes like fuzzy.

00:58:24.620 So the idea of being loyal, the idea of being honest, the idea of being focused and putting the women at the center of my life has these rules of engagement coming from the sense of respect, love, companionship, and so on.

00:58:48.540 So depending how I treat my partner, how I treat myself is the kind of rules of engagement I will be looking for.

00:58:57.340 Yeah, it sounds like when you're talking about rules of engagement, that it's mostly your own set of standards, even expectations that you have of a relationship, whether it's business or romantic.

00:59:11.460 And then also, I think the important component that you're talking about here, too, is communicating.

00:59:15.940 You know, if you have rules of engagement and you want a relationship, for example, to go to one way, but you haven't clearly articulated that to the other person, then you're not being respectful to them and giving them an opportunity to decide if their rules of engagement are aligned with yours.

00:59:35.340 I mean, I think about that in combat sports or football or any sporting event.

00:59:40.520 The rules of engagement are so clearly stated that both sides of the competition have decided to bring a third party into the competition to ensure that the rules of engagement we agreed upon are followed.

00:59:55.560 So it is really important that everybody knows the rules.

00:59:59.000 Otherwise, it's just not fair to the other person.

01:00:01.840 Yes, and people sometimes, they engage without the rules, just for the superficial emotion, just for the look on the eyes, just because the smell.

01:00:12.840 They're thinking about the relationship, but in a very shallow way.

01:00:16.940 So, and then that will basically be destroyed in a very quick, you know, any scenario which is not anticipated can be destroyed in the relationship because you're not there to make it happen, to make it work.

01:00:32.080 You're there because you need this or that from your partner.

01:00:36.260 So that's completely out of purpose.

01:00:41.260 Yeah, well, Hickson, I appreciate the book.

01:00:45.280 It's called Comfort in Darkness.

01:00:46.820 I read it.

01:00:47.540 It's phenomenal.

01:00:48.520 And I would encourage other people to read it, too.

01:00:50.100 Obviously, we're just scratching the surface on what is available.

01:00:53.940 Can you let the guys know where to pick up a copy of the book and then also how to connect with you?

01:00:59.940 Yes, this book will be launched by Harpin Collins.

01:01:02.860 It's going to be a national launch on the, I think, 14th of November.

01:01:10.040 And I hope people love it because I did not make this for martial artists.

01:01:17.260 I make this for average people who think, who can think like champions and be able to resolve their problems or maximizing their capacity to resolve.

01:01:29.780 So I'm very inspired with this book.

01:01:32.040 I hope people enjoy it.

01:01:34.020 And I'd like to thank you, Ryan, for the help and everything.

01:01:38.380 Of course.

01:01:39.680 Of course.

01:01:40.560 Well, I'll be keeping an eye on you and obviously we'll be in touch.

01:01:43.660 I'm very interested in your fight that you have.

01:01:47.580 I think you said, I saw a quote somewhere, maybe I'm misrepresenting it, but you said this is the last fight of your life or something.

01:01:56.560 I think I remember seeing.

01:01:57.940 Is that right?

01:01:58.820 Did I read that right?

01:02:00.300 Yeah.

01:02:00.600 I mean, I'm not sure this is going to be the last, but that's one I'm going to take to the end of my days because I've tried to beat this, this condition, you know, and I'm inspired to do so.

01:02:10.340 And in the meantime, I'm very happy to still practice invisible jiu-jitsu and show people how important for them is to grow in a holistic way for body, mind, spirit.

01:02:21.960 So I'm very happy.

01:02:24.320 Thank you, my brother.

01:02:24.900 Well, I know you're going to help a lot of people in the process.

01:02:27.000 Thank you for joining me today.

01:02:28.500 Have a good one, man.

01:02:29.660 God bless.

01:02:33.080 Man, Hickson Gracie.

01:02:34.260 I hope you enjoyed that one.

01:02:35.380 I do, as always, when I'm able to have conversations with Hickson and other incredible guests.

01:02:39.300 If you would, please make sure that you go connect with Hickson on the socials, X, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, wherever you're doing your thing.

01:02:49.260 Connect with him.

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01:02:54.220 Not only does that let him know that it was valuable for him to be here and you're getting value from it, it helps us also secure additional incredible guests that I know you guys want to have on.

01:03:04.460 And I'm working currently and in talks with some powerhouse guests that you're going to be very excited about.

01:03:10.580 So make sure you subscribe to the podcast as well if you haven't already.

01:03:14.640 Also, make sure to pick up a copy of Comfort in Darkness, The Invisible Power of Jiu-Jitsu by Hickson Gracie.

01:03:20.740 I've read it.

01:03:21.880 I got a pre-release copy of it and I can tell you it is a great book.

01:03:27.780 There's a lot of value in that book and a lot of actionable items that you can implement every single day to improve your life.

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01:03:55.600 All right, guys, we'll be back tomorrow for my Ask Me Anything with my co-host Kip Sorensen.

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Order of Man - November 12, 2024

RICKSON GRACIE ｜ The Art and Science of Invisible Jiu-Jitsu

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