Order of Man - March 12, 2024


RICKY SCHRODER ｜ Correcting the Degeneracy in Hollywood

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government involvement in entertainment programming English common law pornography impacts society perversion porn reform initiative
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Ryan Michler
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RICKY SCHRODER
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Ricky Schroeder Hunter Biden John Talvey Ryan Patriot PBS Clint Davis Greg Kelly Charles Whittlesley Ronald Reagan Silver Spoons Minnie Mouse Mickey Mouse Donald Duck Scrubs Oscar Chris Will
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Ricky Schroeder has been a man of action since he was a boy. He s made it his mission to bring moral, heroic stories to the silver screen, and also to fight against the rampant pornography industry. Today, we talk about how Hollywood is nothing more than a reflection of society, what he refers to as counter-programming, whether or not the First Amendment rights actually do cover pornography, how pedophilia is being pushed as a sexual orientation, and how to course correct the degeneracy in Hollywood.

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00:00:00.000 Hollywood is at the forefront of the sexualization of society. 0.62
00:00:03.680 Unfortunately, many in the entertainment industry just aren't willing to speak up and against
00:00:08.520 what is taking place and working to combat that sexualization and the increasing pornography
00:00:13.980 epidemic.
00:00:15.140 But it's not only that, much of the way we see culture is shaped through the lens of
00:00:19.580 Hollywood and what they want us to see, not necessarily what we want to see.
00:00:25.120 My guest today has been inside since he was just a boy.
00:00:27.900 His name is Ricky Schroeder, and he's made it his life's mission to bring moral, heroic
00:00:32.440 stories to the silver screen and also to fight against the rampant pornography industry.
00:00:37.880 Today, we talk about how Hollywood is nothing more than a reflection of society, what he
00:00:42.460 refers to as counter-programming, whether or not the First Amendment rights actually do
00:00:48.640 cover pornography with regards to freedom of expression, how pedophilia is being pushed
00:00:54.240 as a sexual orientation, and how to course-correct the degeneracy in Hollywood.
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00:02:09.420 Today, I've got a great guest, Ricky Schroeder.
00:02:11.540 I used to watch him as a young boy on the silver screen in different shows, different movies.
00:02:20.140 He was in Silver Spoons, Lonesome Dove, Scrubs.
00:02:24.120 A lot of you guys know who Ricky Schroeder is, and I'm going to make an introduction here
00:02:27.460 in a minute.
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00:03:25.640 All right, guys, let's get to Ricky.
00:03:27.800 As I said, he's an actor, he's a producer, he's a director, he's a writer.
00:03:31.680 He's also the founder of the Real American Heroes Foundation.
00:03:35.100 His name is Ricky Schroeder.
00:03:36.800 He began his acting career at age nine in The Champ.
00:03:39.680 He earned a Golden Globe for that.
00:03:41.840 He kicked off a multifaceted career and very well known for his roles in Silver Spoons,
00:03:48.780 Lonesome Dove, Scrubs, and of course, other shows as well.
00:03:52.800 Since then, he founded the Real American Heroes Foundation, which is a nonprofit organization
00:03:57.340 that provides content that celebrates America's true heroes.
00:04:03.040 That foundation has also created the Council on Pornography Reform, which exists to promote
00:04:08.000 a safer, more responsible digital landscape in the adult film industry that creeps onto
00:04:13.220 the screens of our children at, unfortunately, an increasingly early age.
00:04:17.940 So, gentlemen, please enjoy my conversation with Ricky.
00:04:22.640 Ricky, what's up, brother?
00:04:23.560 Thanks for joining me on the podcast.
00:04:25.500 So glad to be here.
00:04:26.560 Glad to be here.
00:04:27.360 Let's talk.
00:04:28.020 Yeah, we've tried it three or four times now.
00:04:30.260 We've had technical...
00:04:31.180 I say we.
00:04:31.920 It's not we.
00:04:32.460 It's me.
00:04:32.900 It's not anything to do with you at all.
00:04:34.660 It's all on my side.
00:04:36.000 Well, we'll get through it.
00:04:37.140 We're here now.
00:04:37.920 Yeah, for sure.
00:04:38.920 Man, I'm really excited to be talking with you.
00:04:40.760 I actually grew up watching you on the screen, and to be able to chat with you and have a
00:04:46.720 conversation is kind of a cool thing.
00:04:48.320 And my kids, you know, the biggest one, and I'm sure you hear this all the time for us,
00:04:52.460 and my kids have seen this now, is Lonesome Dove, man.
00:04:54.980 That's just a classic.
00:04:56.840 Yeah, Lonesome Dove.
00:04:58.040 A lot of people love that Western, and it's probably one of the finest Westerns made.
00:05:02.460 I think so.
00:05:03.140 You know, the characters, everything came together perfectly when we made Lonesome Dove.
00:05:09.120 I turned 18 making Lonesome Dove.
00:05:10.880 I was 17.
00:05:11.820 Oh, is that right?
00:05:12.440 When we started it.
00:05:13.760 Yeah.
00:05:14.220 Yeah, it's wild.
00:05:14.980 Tell me about your path into acting.
00:05:19.080 I mean, is this something that when you grew up, you always wanted to do?
00:05:21.860 Did your folks get you involved with it?
00:05:23.380 Like, how did that actually pan out?
00:05:24.620 Because you're a childhood actor, so this is something that doesn't always go well, you know,
00:05:30.900 based on what some of us have seen.
00:05:33.140 I'm actually an asset, not an actor, right?
00:05:37.660 Explain that to me.
00:05:39.600 So, Will, it's a long story.
00:05:42.700 You got time?
00:05:43.480 I do.
00:05:44.020 We got all the time in the world.
00:05:46.060 Will, where to begin?
00:05:47.860 I guess it began, you know, having a lot of memories about the childhood when they brought
00:05:53.040 me Hunter Biden's laptop.
00:05:56.220 In November of 2020, a guy came to my house and he wanted to talk.
00:06:03.820 And so we sat down for like four hours and he went through the voting fraud data on the
00:06:08.440 Smartmatic electronic machines.
00:06:12.040 And it showed that there was six million votes that had been changed predominantly from Iran,
00:06:17.500 Russia and China.
00:06:18.980 And he had a whole bunch of Hunter Biden files and he left me with a bunch of the contracts of
00:06:28.800 Hunter's.
00:06:29.360 And, you know, I started posting some of those CEFC contracts that Hunter had a couple of years ago.
00:06:36.440 And, you know, at first I wondered why they brought me this.
00:06:40.640 Why did they bring me Hunter Biden's info and share this all with me?
00:06:44.400 But I started sort of having some memories from childhood, younger childhood.
00:06:50.580 And there was a memory of a man.
00:06:53.500 He would put headphones on me and he and I would be in a room together, just the two of us.
00:06:59.080 And it was it was somebody my father played tennis with.
00:07:02.800 And I remembered, you know, my dad, because I grew up on the tennis courts in Staten Island,
00:07:07.480 New York, every Saturday from nine to 12.
00:07:09.920 I go play tennis at St. Joseph's by the sea.
00:07:13.580 And then at some point I'd be taken to a classroom at the high school, a Catholic high school next
00:07:18.600 door and and have headphones put on me and a tape recorder put in front of me.
00:07:25.540 And I couldn't place the memories.
00:07:28.340 I didn't know what what they were.
00:07:30.100 And so I went to my folks and I said, folks, I have a memory of somebody dad played tennis
00:07:34.680 with.
00:07:35.060 And my dad worked at IBM and AT&T later.
00:07:40.400 And I said, Mom, Dad, I have this memory of somebody dad plays tennis with and he's putting
00:07:45.360 headphones on me and a tape recorder.
00:07:47.000 Do you have any idea what it was?
00:07:49.220 And they didn't know.
00:07:51.140 And so I went to my sister and she said that the same thing had happened to her with the
00:07:56.380 man.
00:07:56.660 And his name was John Talvey.
00:07:58.620 T-O-L-V-E. 1.00
00:08:00.240 And so I went back to my folks and I said, Don remembers, you know, the same situation.
00:08:07.340 Do you and who is John Talvey?
00:08:09.900 And my dad's like, well, John's a NYPD detective.
00:08:14.320 And he was a tennis partner of mine.
00:08:17.720 And John had passed away in 2019.
00:08:20.800 So there was no way for me to reach out to him directly.
00:08:24.340 But they didn't have any idea why there would be headphones and tape recorders and things
00:08:30.300 like that.
00:08:30.920 And I remember there was other kids in the program.
00:08:39.340 There was other, other, other, this is before The Champ, before I was given that movie The
00:08:44.740 Champ when I was seven years old.
00:08:46.720 So this is when I was five years old, six years old.
00:08:51.260 But there was other kids involved in whatever this program was.
00:08:54.720 And there was a whole bunch of young families that all were pushing their children to, into 0.98
00:09:01.860 the entertainment industry, and they, John, what's his name, Kelly, Greg Kelly on Newsmax.
00:09:08.080 He and I actually modeled together in New York back when we were children.
00:09:13.360 His father was the police commissioner of New York City, and a really good one.
00:09:18.080 And so there was a whole group of adults that were pushing their children into the entertainment
00:09:24.600 fields to become, become movie, movie stars, I guess, and TV stars.
00:09:31.020 And, and none of that sort of came back to me until after they brought me Hunter Biden's
00:09:36.020 laptop.
00:09:36.880 And so once they brought me that, I started having these memories from my childhood.
00:09:42.100 And then they gave me the movie The Champ when I was seven years old.
00:09:46.540 And so I see myself, you know, I never really fit into Hollywood.
00:09:53.340 I was never kind of in their, their club.
00:09:55.980 I was in a, it seemed like a, an outsider.
00:09:59.820 But there was elements within Hollywood that were pushing me and giving me jobs and, and
00:10:06.180 trying to, you know, to create, I think, counter-programming.
00:10:10.420 You know, I met Ronald Reagan when I was, I think, about 10 or 11 years old the first time.
00:10:16.000 And I met him three times with my father.
00:10:19.620 And, you know, from what I understand, you know, it was probably his program.
00:10:26.480 It was sort of a counter-programming effort because he saw the way that propaganda was
00:10:32.860 getting pushed into America. 0.60
00:10:34.780 And I think there was a law changed back then that actually allowed for propaganda to be
00:10:41.460 pushed into America underneath his stewardship.
00:10:43.840 And so this seems to me like it was a counter-programming effort to build assets and put them in Hollywood
00:10:51.640 or put them in sports or put them in music.
00:10:54.500 And I was just a seed that they kind of planted there.
00:10:58.540 And then when they brought me the Hunter Biden stuff, it sort of triggered what, what it really
00:11:05.460 was about and the whole design of it.
00:11:07.880 What, what do you think that when you say counter-programming, what exactly do you mean?
00:11:12.420 What, what was it that they were trying to program or counter-program as, as you say it?
00:11:16.640 Well, I mean, look at the disastrous effects of propaganda in our nation.
00:11:20.020 You know, and so, you know, the roles that they would give me, they would give me, you
00:11:25.240 know, the Lost Battalion where I played Major Charles Whittlesley, a World War I Medal of
00:11:31.820 Honor recipient, Too Young the Hero when I was 16, about, about the youngest, youngest
00:11:40.080 man to serve in the Navy during World War II.
00:11:42.380 He was 12 years old.
00:11:43.260 Um, and so they brought me sort of content that was pro-American, that was pro, um, our
00:11:50.940 values and principles.
00:11:52.740 Uh, and so those are the opportunities they gave me in, in the entertainment field.
00:11:58.880 Um, so that was, that was the programming that they wanted to push with me.
00:12:04.040 That's the, the programming that was designed for me to carry.
00:12:07.840 Others have, or others are different kinds of assets that carry, um, different kinds of
00:12:14.680 programming that are harmful for America.
00:12:17.440 Um, and so, yeah, it's, I've never saw myself as an actor.
00:12:22.320 It was always an asset.
00:12:23.880 Do you think that it was programming?
00:12:26.440 Cause the way you're saying it makes me, makes me think that you believe it was inspired
00:12:32.800 by government actors, agencies to, you know, elicit maybe a fighting force for the military?
00:12:39.640 Or do you think that was just what consumers wanted to, to view, to watch, to see, and the
00:12:47.960 prevailing virtues or, you know, values was something different than I think what we've
00:12:53.620 seen today, which tends to migrate and deviate from that.
00:12:56.500 So what was it, I guess what I'm asking, was it a product of what the market wanted or was
00:13:01.420 it something on a deeper level, like the government involvement in it?
00:13:06.900 No, I, I definitely believe it was, um, government involved programs.
00:13:11.660 Um, you know, when you, when you see the news cycle, they control the news cycle, CIA, you
00:13:16.860 know, they control what comes out and what they push in many ways.
00:13:20.860 And so I believe this was, um, some three letter agency kind of, uh, program.
00:13:28.180 Um, you know, it's the last words I spoke with my mother, I, I can't speak with my mother
00:13:36.640 anymore.
00:13:37.700 Uh, I'm not sure why, but the last words I spoke with her, she said to me, there's other
00:13:44.600 kids in the program, Ricky.
00:13:45.780 It wasn't just you.
00:13:46.600 Um, and that was the last words I got to hear from my mom.
00:13:50.240 And so, uh, when she told me that it started to even click more and more.
00:13:56.720 Um, so no, I think it was designed.
00:14:00.240 This wasn't a just market force kind of content, um, issue.
00:14:07.940 Uh, this was a designed issue.
00:14:10.500 You know, I feel like they plant seeds in Hollywood and then they call on them when
00:14:15.700 they, when they want.
00:14:17.600 And when they brought me Hunter Biden's laptop and gave me this information, um, it's what,
00:14:23.740 it's what makes sense.
00:14:26.380 Why else would they have brought it to me?
00:14:28.540 What, what was the, go ahead.
00:14:32.200 Go ahead.
00:14:32.780 Why else would they have brought it?
00:14:33.860 Yeah.
00:14:34.080 I think I interrupted you.
00:14:35.100 So go continue.
00:14:36.020 Well, when you say they, who do you mean, who is they that brought you this laptop that
00:14:40.840 gave you the information that, that was on that laptop?
00:14:43.020 Cause it's obviously infamous now, but at the time it, it, it wasn't.
00:14:46.720 And it was, uh, it was presented as a hoax, as a scam is, as something that, uh, shouldn't
00:14:51.640 be looked at.
00:14:52.860 Yeah.
00:14:53.040 So it was brought to me from a man who said that he worked with the three letter agencies
00:14:58.020 and when he came into the house, you know, he, he said he does, he did work with them
00:15:03.320 and he had something to share with me.
00:15:06.180 And so we sat for four hours and went through Hunter's, Hunter's info and the smartmatic
00:15:12.860 election, um, data.
00:15:15.680 And so, uh, he, he said that, that he worked for them.
00:15:19.600 And so I believed him when he said he worked for them.
00:15:22.360 Um, what's interesting is that I'd met that, that this man one time before, about 10 years
00:15:29.140 earlier, he came to my home with a horse trailer and I had five miniature Sicilian donkeys.
00:15:35.920 I lived on a farm in Topanga, California, and he came to my home and, uh, he collected
00:15:41.020 those donkeys cause the kids weren't playing with them anymore. 0.74
00:15:43.440 And, um, he took those donkeys away and I, you know, had a nice conversation with him.
00:15:48.320 And then 10 years later, he shows up at my house with Hunter's info.
00:15:54.800 And so I realized then that, that, that wasn't that, that perhaps that there, that wasn't
00:15:59.420 just a coincidence that the 10 years earlier, he'd come to my house and taken those donkeys
00:16:04.560 away.
00:16:05.940 And did you sell the donkeys?
00:16:07.140 Is that what, and he bought those or how did that, like, how did that come to be?
00:16:11.140 Yeah, we had five Sicilian miniature donkeys.
00:16:13.920 They're the coolest pets.
00:16:14.900 And, um, the kids were getting older and they weren't giving them the attention they needed
00:16:19.980 and wanted.
00:16:20.820 And so we were going to give them to a family.
00:16:23.160 And so I, I went, uh, to the local coffee shop in Topanga and I asked the lady that worked 0.59
00:16:29.200 there, do you know anybody wants these miniature donkeys?
00:16:31.920 And she said, I might.
00:16:33.960 And so this, this fella came over with a horse trailer and we visited for an hour and he took
00:16:41.740 them.
00:16:42.680 He said he had some kids that wanted them.
00:16:45.020 And, uh, and then I never saw him again until he came to my house with Hunter Biden's laptop
00:16:49.120 a decade later.
00:16:50.600 And, and what was the request?
00:16:52.420 So he shows you this, this laptop.
00:16:54.620 Was there, was there some sort of request or, or where did it go from there?
00:17:00.260 It was, um, I'm going to give you this information and you can share it or not, but I thought you
00:17:06.260 should know it.
00:17:07.140 And that's it.
00:17:07.820 So yeah, there was no pressure.
00:17:09.400 There was no force.
00:17:10.340 I spent a long time in prayer deciding what I was going to do about this information that
00:17:14.640 I had, you know, I, I, I, I knew my life would change when I started posting Hunter's
00:17:20.020 contracts, but I decided that I couldn't validate the data or information and it wasn't necessarily
00:17:26.520 my job to validate it, but it was, I felt the responsibility to push it along and to push
00:17:33.180 it out to who I could.
00:17:34.760 And how, and how have things changed for you now since, since, since that day and since
00:17:38.940 you have shared and become more vocal about some of this stuff?
00:17:41.660 My life's pretty good.
00:17:45.960 I've, I've, I've, I love Colorado.
00:17:47.700 I'm back here on my, my farm and you know, Hollywood is, has rejected me.
00:17:52.940 Most of mainstream Hollywood, I'm sure because of what I've been doing and saying.
00:17:57.820 And, but, um, but I was never accepted anyway.
00:18:01.060 So that, uh, that, that didn't make me too upset, but I did want to start a, I still want
00:18:06.780 to tell stories and documentaries and films.
00:18:09.020 So that's hence the idea.
00:18:10.460 I got into real American heroes, um, foundation.
00:18:14.740 It's a 501 C three nonprofit.
00:18:16.480 And so its mission is to, you know, to counteract the programming coming out of Hollywood.
00:18:22.840 And so we're going to tell long form stories and documentaries and big, what I want to
00:18:28.160 build for America is kind of a Patriot PBS, an alternative where you can get your money
00:18:33.880 out of Hollywood and we can aggregate great stories and bring them to the, to the world
00:18:40.160 and to the country.
00:18:41.640 And, uh, you know, I'm not sure you're aware of this, but the Academy of Motion Pictures,
00:18:46.540 Arts and Sciences, who's responsible for the Oscars, they had a DEI requirements a few
00:18:51.680 years ago.
00:18:52.240 That doesn't, I'm not aware of that, but that doesn't surprise me.
00:18:55.380 Yeah.
00:18:55.560 And so their requirements now say for best picture category.
00:18:58.780 Oh, I did know about this.
00:18:59.940 Keep going.
00:19:00.440 I did know about this.
00:19:01.940 Yeah.
00:19:02.120 You have to have lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender storylines and themes and characters and
00:19:09.040 even crew to work on the films to be eligible for the best picture category.
00:19:14.060 So I'm insulted by my industry.
00:19:17.220 I'm insulted by my Academy that, you know, people, gold star families.
00:19:22.080 Whose kids go out there and put on a uniform, uh, and, and sacrifice their lives.
00:19:27.940 You know, their stories aren't eligible for the highest award in our land, the Oscar for
00:19:32.840 best picture.
00:19:33.400 Saving Private Ryan wouldn't be eligible for best picture today because of the DEI requirements
00:19:39.460 for the best picture category.
00:19:40.800 And so it's completely insulting.
00:19:43.960 Hollywood's fallen.
00:19:45.660 You know, they have, they have false idols, American idol. 0.59
00:19:49.160 You know, it's, it tells us in the Bible to say, you know, not to chase idols.
00:19:52.420 And then you look at the biggest shows on TV and they use those words or survivor.
00:19:57.280 Everybody wants to, what do they want to win?
00:20:00.440 The idol, you know, to, to save themselves.
00:20:03.700 And so the idol, the Bible warns us all multiple times, stay away from idols.
00:20:07.960 And that's what Hollywood's about is idols.
00:20:10.720 And so it's, it's, uh, hence real American heroes foundation.
00:20:15.560 We have a great story to tell about the battle of Wannat, uh, in Afghanistan.
00:20:20.920 That's a compelling story.
00:20:22.760 We have a great story about a Navy SEAL who, um, swam, swam 2,400 miles down the Mississippi
00:20:29.320 river in six months, one mile for every KIA in Afghanistan. 0.97
00:20:33.640 His name is Chris ring.
00:20:35.360 We want to tell.
00:20:36.460 And so our mission is to counteract that programming that Hollywood's pushing out.
00:20:41.080 Yeah.
00:20:41.560 We want to build Patriot, Patriot PBS.
00:20:44.060 Yeah.
00:20:44.480 I like that.
00:20:44.900 I, you know, I'm, I just wrote a couple of movie titles down.
00:20:47.440 Cause I, I think there is a, uh, I hate to say it this way when you're talking about
00:20:51.040 gold star families, you know, I served in the,
00:20:52.740 military and so I have a familiarity with this, but so I, I hate to say that there's
00:20:57.580 a market for it.
00:20:58.740 That's not the right way to say it, but it'll do for now.
00:21:01.700 But you think about movies like American sniper or lone survivor, which are obviously mainstream,
00:21:07.300 you know, juggernauts in the movie industry.
00:21:09.440 And I think there is really a craving for, uh, American values, American virtues, good heroic
00:21:16.080 stories of, of people doing heroic and difficult and challenging things.
00:21:20.600 Do you think that's changed over the past, you know, 30, 40 years?
00:21:25.040 And if so, what has instigated that change in Hollywood?
00:21:28.300 Well, there is a market for it.
00:21:29.780 You're absolutely right.
00:21:30.600 People want to hear and see good stories with characters that have morals and values and do
00:21:36.100 the right thing.
00:21:37.600 Um, Hollywood got into the, telling the stories of the, the antiheroes, uh, and, and flawed characters.
00:21:44.580 And so there is definitely a market for it.
00:21:47.380 What's changed.
00:21:49.040 Oh goodness.
00:21:50.060 I mean, we're, we're losing our, our principles and values in my opinion, as, as, uh, as a nation.
00:21:56.320 Uh, we're trying to rewrite history.
00:21:58.080 We're trying to change history in real time.
00:22:00.120 You've read 1984, right?
00:22:01.860 Right.
00:22:02.060 Of course.
00:22:02.620 Yeah.
00:22:03.440 Yeah.
00:22:03.940 Yeah.
00:22:04.380 I mean, we see it happening sort of in front of us in real time.
00:22:09.180 What's changed.
00:22:10.040 I mean, I, money, greed, chasing idols, you know, putting self before country.
00:22:17.320 Hollywood has, you know, it's declining.
00:22:19.700 It's just, it's just showing what society is.
00:22:22.200 It's a declining cultural rot happening.
00:22:25.300 And it starts, in my opinion, with 40 years of internet pornography being pushed into our
00:22:30.640 society and into our minds, into our souls and to our homes.
00:22:34.400 So the council on porn, pornography reform, we started producing a series called erotic
00:22:40.260 erosion that looks at the disastrous effects.
00:22:43.160 When they moved pornography out of the .xxx URL, they shut it down and they put it into
00:22:49.580 the dot.
00:22:49.960 They put it into the .com world intentionally.
00:22:52.780 Um, it became almost impossible for, for families to, to stop it from coming into their
00:22:58.260 homes.
00:22:58.640 Uh, you couldn't block when it was in .xxx, which is one of our goals is to move it all
00:23:03.620 back to .xxx.
00:23:05.740 Uh, it was controllable.
00:23:07.320 It was, it was, uh, manageable.
00:23:10.200 You could put a blocker at your house and block anything from that URL .xxx.
00:23:16.360 Once they go into the .com world, you, you couldn't, it was like whack-a-mole for parents.
00:23:20.580 Uh, so I think internet pornography being pushed into our society for 40 years has had disastrous
00:23:27.660 effects on our culture and it needs to change.
00:23:30.560 And so we, we believe we have some ideas on how to change it.
00:23:34.320 We want an off switch, Ryan, if you pay the bill for Verizon or AT&T, um, adult content
00:23:42.220 should be swapped off.
00:23:43.640 If you want it off to your phone and sub accounts to your kids and you should have that right.
00:23:48.860 You and I both know there's no pornography, like you went to Afghanistan, I'm sure.
00:23:52.620 I was in Iraq.
00:23:53.620 Um, was there pornography on the internet in Iraq?
00:23:57.480 Uh, not that I know of.
00:23:58.480 Do you remember?
00:23:59.480 I mean, I had very limited access to the internet, but, uh, not that I know of.
00:24:02.480 Well, in Afghanistan, when I was there, there was no internet pornography available.
00:24:08.240 You know, everybody had flash drives and they would pass them around the soldiers, but there
00:24:12.960 was no such thing as internet pornography.
00:24:15.140 And so they have the capability, even Montana right now, you can, they've turned off Pornhub,
00:24:19.580 turned off their site to all zip codes in Montana.
00:24:22.760 So they have the ability to turn off pornography per zip code, per state, per nation.
00:24:28.760 And so we're not, we're not advocating for them to ban pornography at this time, but we
00:24:33.960 are advocating for them to give us the choice.
00:24:37.560 You know, if we pay the bill to AT&T or Verizon, there's no reason we should have that stuff
00:24:41.940 pushed to our, our homes and our phones.
00:24:44.260 I think the argument, and, and you and I talked about this briefly before we hit record,
00:24:48.620 but the argument you often hear is pornography is protected by the first amendment.
00:24:52.760 Right.
00:24:53.200 And you had sent me an article and I admittedly, I have not had the chance to read it, but
00:24:57.740 you had sent me an article before we started, um, that, that illustrates or communicates
00:25:02.440 that, uh, pornography is not, uh, protected by the first amendment, according to the, the
00:25:08.060 individuals who wrote the article.
00:25:10.740 That's correct.
00:25:11.720 I mean, um, they changed the definition.
00:25:14.840 So freedom of speech and freedom of press, the first amendment were created by our forefathers
00:25:20.400 before electricity was created, before the camera was invented.
00:25:24.540 And if you think about this perversion and pornography, it all came with the invention of the camera
00:25:30.340 before the camera, you couldn't, um, capture an image.
00:25:34.960 You could engage in perversion or you could witness perversion, but you couldn't distribute
00:25:40.280 it.
00:25:40.640 But 150 years ago, they took the first pictures of the porn.
00:25:45.600 And for 150 years now, they've been disseminating it and distributing it in, into our culture.
00:25:50.800 And they never had the right.
00:25:52.460 The first amendment protected speech, but the court, the Supreme court redefined freedom of
00:25:58.660 speech to be freedom of expression.
00:26:00.660 And, and photographs were covered then under freedom of expression, freedom of speech only
00:26:05.760 had to do with fighting back against the powers of the government.
00:26:09.080 You could say what you wanted without being in fear of being thrown in the gulag or whatever.
00:26:14.500 But freedom of expression is how the courts have redefined the first amendment.
00:26:18.520 And they, they include, I was talking to, you know, a lawyer today in DC and the absurdity
00:26:24.300 of the debate we had was they were talking about how, um, child erotica content is different
00:26:30.760 than child pornography content.
00:26:33.080 And that there is a, a difference between child erotica and child pornography.
00:26:37.660 And it's, that's where we're at.
00:26:40.820 That's the absurdity of, you know, all of that is bad.
00:26:43.360 There should be no child erotica kind of content or child pornography content, but that's what
00:26:49.900 the lawyers do.
00:26:50.660 They, they, they, they look for the gray areas and they, they, they try to, you know,
00:26:56.520 they're destroying.
00:26:57.560 So many of them are destroying our standards and values because there should be no definition
00:27:01.840 between child erotica or child pornography.
00:27:04.620 Child erotica leads to child pornography.
00:27:06.860 I mean, what is the, I don't even, what is, what, what is their claim that is the distinction?
00:27:10.800 If somebody posts a picture of a new child online, but it's not in a sexual contents context,
00:27:17.120 it's them, um, playing, swimming in a Creek and it's, their family is a bunch of nudists
00:27:23.880 and they should be able to post that because it's not pornography.
00:27:30.240 It's erotic, but it's not pornography.
00:27:33.040 Okay.
00:27:33.740 And so, yeah, there's no sexual act involved.
00:27:36.560 And so they want to define literally the difference between erotica and pornography.
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00:29:02.840 Yeah.
00:29:03.180 I mean, it's, it's things like even, even that, you know, that I hear that, but there's
00:29:06.520 also things like, and you see this popping up more and more, which is, uh, you know,
00:29:10.160 pedophilia is a, uh, a sexual orientation is the big push now.
00:29:14.060 Right.
00:29:14.440 So we're not going to discriminate against those who are, are quote unquote predisposed 0.71
00:29:19.980 or engage in pedophilia because it's simply a sexual orientation, uh, not something perverted
00:29:26.220 per se. 0.66
00:29:27.400 Yeah.
00:29:27.580 And, and I've also heard the argument that they may never act out on it.
00:29:30.680 It's just their, it's just what, what they masturbate to, you know, it's just what they 0.94
00:29:35.160 fantasize. 0.60
00:29:35.640 I mean, that's that, that's an action.
00:29:37.080 Yeah, absolutely.
00:29:38.180 And it's not a victimless crime because these people then walk in society amongst us, amongst
00:29:43.960 my children and yours and our girlfriends or wives.
00:29:46.760 And, you know, we're, we're dealing with all this perversion that they never had the
00:29:51.180 right to push into us using the first amendment.
00:29:54.360 And so we, we need to go back to English common law and decency.
00:29:58.740 And so that's what, that's what the paper is.
00:30:00.920 I sent you.
00:30:01.960 What does a English common law suggest?
00:30:04.080 I'm not familiar with it in this context.
00:30:06.640 Well, English common law, you know, new dancing was, was illegal in England.
00:30:12.940 Um, you know, there's, there's just basic norms of behavior that are defined as English
00:30:19.100 common law.
00:30:19.920 It's, we all know that it's what normal, healthy humans behave like and anything outside of
00:30:25.560 that is against English common law.
00:30:28.080 And we have strayed so far from the foundation.
00:30:31.260 All the colonies were, uh, had English common law prior to, uh, declaration of independence.
00:30:37.740 They were, they were all built upon English common law for decency and, and the way people
00:30:43.080 behave and treat each other.
00:30:44.960 And, um, and we have strayed from English common law, you know, so we're in trouble.
00:30:50.260 I mean, with this perversion, unless we get a handle on it and, you know, it's getting
00:30:54.560 worse.
00:30:54.900 You look at the transgender confusion and the rise of the sexual confusion in our nation 0.85
00:31:01.140 with, with those issues.
00:31:03.340 I believe that's all a result of 40 years of internet pornography being really pushed into
00:31:09.380 our minds and our, our souls and the way we see ourselves and the confusion that comes
00:31:13.800 with that.
00:31:14.240 And so what, here's an interesting thing you might find interesting.
00:31:17.680 Um, you know, about dry counties in the South where they serve no alcohol.
00:31:21.400 Sure.
00:31:21.560 Of course.
00:31:21.960 Yeah.
00:31:23.360 So I'm talking to a County here in the West that's interested in becoming a porn free dry
00:31:29.080 County.
00:31:30.180 And so we're, we're going to actually be heading over to speak with their County commissioners
00:31:34.320 and, uh, they're possibly going to put the vote, um, before the members of their County,
00:31:40.040 which is a tiny County, um, less than 5,000 people and, um, devout, um, love the America,
00:31:49.420 um, love Jesus.
00:31:51.360 And there's a good chance that this will pass in this County, that they will become the
00:31:56.000 first porn free County dry County in our nation.
00:32:00.000 And obviously a lot of, uh, issues will come with that.
00:32:02.980 The, the porn producers and pushers will fight it in the law and the courts, but, but we,
00:32:10.240 the people, I mean, what about what we want if that County doesn't want pornography in their 0.95
00:32:15.800 zip codes and they vote on it and a majority decide that, um, it's an interesting question.
00:32:23.480 Shouldn't they have the right to like a dry County be porn free?
00:32:26.900 Yeah. I mean, sure. And, and, you know, the opportunity to leave or find another place if
00:32:32.240 you so desire is, is yours, you know? And, and I, I think that's even a more viable opportunity
00:32:38.540 than it's ever been, you know, for us to move in the, and this is why we see, you know, people
00:32:42.660 moving, for example, out of California to, uh, Florida or Texas, you know, because they're not
00:32:48.680 interested in the politics and the, in the laws and the rules and the regulations that allow this,
00:32:53.480 this perversion and degeneracy.
00:32:54.900 Yeah. And I think the County is where we have to fight it. And if we can, if we can get this one
00:32:59.560 County to vote and pass it, imagine if there's thousands of counties that they wanted to be
00:33:05.520 porn free and they had a vote and, um, you know, they, they can't defeat us all. They can't stop us
00:33:12.400 all. Yeah. I think the biggest issue is, you know, what, what two consenting adults do inside the walls
00:33:18.040 of their home or their bedroom is, you know, entirely up to them by all means, whatever, whatever you
00:33:22.240 think, uh, it's when you involve other people, especially minors, right? Because they don't
00:33:26.280 have a say, they don't have any authority over their own lives in a lot of ways. Uh, and then
00:33:30.460 to your point earlier about the distribution, you know, now you're distributing it, you know,
00:33:34.700 we, we don't allow people to, well, we do allow, but there is laws that says we can't, uh, uh,
00:33:39.780 distribute drugs, for example, because we know of the harmful effects on those individuals who even
00:33:44.800 decide voluntarily to engage in drug use and we still, still criminal activity. So I think there
00:33:51.660 is a case to be made for making certain distribution of certain materials illegal on those
00:33:58.520 basis. That that's not a precedent that hasn't been set already. Well, porn is a drug. I mean,
00:34:03.320 we, in erotic erosion, we talked with, uh, a counselor, Clint Davis, who's explained to us and
00:34:09.760 Dr. Amen from the brain clinic, we're going to be speaking with him that cocaine has the same
00:34:14.460 effects as masturbating to pornography on the young boy's brain. It's that large of a dopamine hit
00:34:21.880 and that serotonin dump. And so it becomes like a habit, um, pornography. And so, you know,
00:34:31.480 if you had a drug habit, you wouldn't, if every day a drug dealer put drugs at your front door
00:34:36.940 and you had to choose whether or not to go get them as, as the addict, it's the same thing they're
00:34:43.040 doing with pornography. Cause it is a drug and they're pushing it to our phones and to our houses
00:34:47.300 and putting the choice on us, whether or not we pick it up. Well, how about we just don't have the
00:34:54.500 choice for the ones that don't want the choice, the ones that don't want it delivered to their
00:34:59.240 house or their phone just off. And that's, that's what we're advocating for, um, is an off switch.
00:35:06.560 If you want to keep it out there on, on the rest of the America, go ahead. But why should,
00:35:13.620 why should we be forced to have it pushed to our homes? Yeah. And I imagine there'll be providers
00:35:17.920 if this picks up traction and steam the way I think it can, I imagine there will be alternative
00:35:22.760 providers who have these types of options, um, you know, where it won't be viable or accessible.
00:35:29.020 And I think that'd be a good thing. What's the biggest, what's the biggest hurdle that you run
00:35:34.120 up against, whether it's from the, the porn industry or, you know, other industries and
00:35:39.720 agencies to the consumer themselves, what is the biggest hangup in the types of legislation
00:35:46.180 and regulation that you're talking about? Well, Washington's cumbersome and broken. And
00:35:54.420 there are five bills right now that, you know, Congress and senators are working on that, that
00:35:59.760 do help, but they don't go far enough. They deal with, you know, the consequences of, of the sickness
00:36:05.920 and perversion and the disease of pornography. They don't go at the root problem. Um, and so I,
00:36:12.440 you know, we're trying to circumnavigate that as best we can. I have a law firm that's writing
00:36:17.660 legislation on the two key issues that we really are pushing, which is, um, putting dot XXX
00:36:24.400 back into the, um, the adult content back into the dot XXX URL and an off switch for people
00:36:31.980 to pay the bill. So we're, we're going to develop a legislation in house and we'll get it, you
00:36:36.700 know, about 80% written and then it'll be taken to the legislative council office. Um, I spoke
00:36:44.440 with a Senator's office today. Um, and so, you know, I'll have to get co-sponsors. Um, so that's
00:36:53.820 what we're trying to do is just circumnavigate their slow, tedious process in DC and get our
00:36:58.860 own legislation written and then bring that to the people and share it with America. Like
00:37:03.660 this is the two things we want. Um, and, and I think people just haven't thought that it's
00:37:11.300 possible. They've been conditioned so long to believe that pornography is covered by the
00:37:15.360 first amendment that they don't even think it's possible, but it is possible. And we can
00:37:20.440 change this and we must change this. And so, um, it's just getting people to believe we can change
00:37:27.300 this. Um, it has been sort of an educating people that it's possible, um, is, is sort of where we're
00:37:34.280 at right now. Yeah. I mean, on an intuitive level, if you just spend any time and thinking about it,
00:37:39.800 which admittedly I haven't from a, from a first amendment perspective, uh, but there's a lot of
00:37:45.880 expression that is illegal, you know, it, not everything is protected. Even if you choose to
00:37:53.640 look at it from the freedom of expression, you know, you can't, you can't go murder somebody.
00:37:58.480 You can't sell an individual illegal drugs. Like these are all, these could all be argued that
00:38:03.840 they're a freedom of expression. Well, I don't like that guy. So I'm going to go kill him.
00:38:07.420 Is that a freedom of expression? You could make the case it is, but yet we as a society don't allow 0.99
00:38:12.400 that for obvious reasons, it's not far fetched to assume that this would fall into that same camp.
00:38:17.740 Completely agree. Um, freedom of expression is nowhere in the constitution. It's not written
00:38:23.600 those words, but, but, but, uh, and, and that's what the courts have, have determined, um, pornography
00:38:29.920 is that it's freedom of expression. Um, it was never covered by the first amendment. Um, and we need
00:38:39.120 to unwind, you know, their, their, their disastrous effects. Um, you know, young, young men growing up
00:38:48.000 watching pornography, they see the world differently. They see women differently. They interact with the
00:38:53.500 world differently. They're, they're have much more sort of, it seems like serious, emotional, uh, antisocial,
00:39:01.240 uh, aggressive tendencies. Um, this has, you know, regardless of the, the implications on your soul,
00:39:08.700 it has a biological, it has a biological impact, uh, on, on how young men behave, uh, how they treat
00:39:16.120 women. Um, you know, I saw my first pornography when I was nine years old, the first video. 0.55
00:39:23.300 And, uh, it's, it's something that I'll never forget, uh, the image and it, and it opened up a
00:39:29.540 curiosity, which only, um, which only hurt my development and hurt my, my soul. It did nothing
00:39:38.080 ever to help me. And, um, you know, and there's too many kids right now that are playing video games
00:39:43.860 and watching porn for hours a day. You know, the parents, 87% of parents, according to, uh, Clint,
00:39:49.920 my, one of the interviewees on erotic erosion, 87% of parents have no guidelines for their children's
00:39:56.400 social media use. 87%. And so it's wide open for them out there, these kids and what they're
00:40:05.120 seeing, what they're experiencing, um, the hardcore nature, the perversion escalates, doesn't stay at
00:40:13.440 level two, goes to level 10. Um, it turns into bestiality and furries, you know, it turns into
00:40:23.080 that whole, you know, perverted kind of, that's where, that's where furries go. In my opinion,
00:40:29.480 it's, you know, there's an animal component to it, um, the pretending to be animals, um, pretending to
00:40:36.440 be cats, going to the bathroom and litter boxes. And, you know, there's a whole, uh, perverse,
00:40:42.860 perverse side to the, to the furry movement. People think it's cute, but Disney put out the first
00:40:47.980 furries, Minnie Mouse, Mickey Mouse, they were the goofy Donald Duck. Disney created that whole
00:40:54.800 furry culture in my opinion. Well, and it only gets worse. I mean, not, not, not to mention what
00:41:00.420 you're talking about, but you think about the advent of AI and, and what that's going to do.
00:41:06.160 Cause I mean, obviously that's going to infiltrate and it already has the, um, pornography industry, 0.99
00:41:11.180 uh, and then robotics. And you start coupling these things together. I mean, talk about a society
00:41:16.240 that doesn't want to engage with anybody else. Why, why would you, you know, you can have a
00:41:19.940 quote unquote woman to your specifications, uh, anytime you want, uh, you don't need to go out 0.89
00:41:26.140 there and engage with society. And, um, it just becomes this, you know, crazy dystopian
00:41:30.660 society where we're just boxed in, you know, uh, succumbing to every wish and desire that,
00:41:37.680 that we've ever imagined and plenty that we haven't yet. Well, they're trying to break the family
00:41:42.720 and the, and the bond between man and woman, the biblical bond between man and woman. I mean,
00:41:47.600 let's talk about women for a sec and vibrators, you know, that is a barrier between intimacy and 1.00
00:41:56.020 bonding between a man and a woman. If you plug it into the outlet, you, you put that alien device 0.74
00:42:02.480 at 10,000 RPMs on your groin, and then you fantasize perhaps if you're alone about who knows
00:42:09.020 what, you know, some other relationships you had previous relationships, maybe you're fantasizing
00:42:15.680 about your current partner, maybe not, but you're, you're sort of self gratifying yourself in this 0.99
00:42:21.080 men watching pornography, watching women, other women masturbating to them. So when they do hook 0.99
00:42:27.700 up with their, their partner in earth and on the world, in the world, you know, where are their minds? 0.77
00:42:33.020 You've just looked at 25 hours of porn the previous week or whatever the hell it was. 0.94
00:42:38.980 And now you're with your significant other trying to get her to perform like 25 hours of porn you 0.97
00:42:46.900 watched. It's like, it's breaking the bond. And so it's, it's really a matter of clearing. You got to
00:42:53.320 clear yourself in a sense, like your soul and get these intrusive thoughts out of your mind. You know,
00:43:00.500 if, if, if you've, if you've got intrusive thoughts for men and women and anything that breaks that
00:43:06.300 bond, including the vibrator, including pornography has got to be thrown in the trash so that, you know,
00:43:13.000 you and your, your wife or me and my wife can have that bond that's so special and sacred and only
00:43:21.320 belongs to the two of you. And that's what makes marriage special. That's what makes your relationship
00:43:26.580 special. It belongs to you. You're not out there thinking and fantasizing about other women and
00:43:32.860 she's not fantasizing about other guys. Um, but that's what conditions, that's what's conditioned
00:43:39.120 to us. They, the society, the programming, you know, is conditioned so much, you know, don't have kids,
00:43:46.320 don't get married, don't have a biblical kind of marriage. The conditioning is anti that.
00:43:52.740 And what, why did this become such an issue for you with what you're doing it with, with regards
00:43:57.840 to addressing pornography? And then also with a real American heroes foundation, why did you feel
00:44:03.520 like you wanted to become the champion of these two causes in particular? Well, the perversion that I,
00:44:09.240 you know, that I've seen and I was around, I was around it as a kid, you know, I was, I was, um,
00:44:15.120 I was around pedophiles as a child. I mean, I, they, they worked around me. They, they, they had jobs
00:44:22.400 around my career. They were involved. And so I, I saw like, I saw it, I saw it a lot. Um,
00:44:32.460 those magazines that we were, I was in when I was a teenager, um, team beat, remember that magazine?
00:44:39.860 Sure. Yeah. And it was all, it was all pedophiles that produced it, shot the pictures and team beat
00:44:45.720 meant this, you know, that that's what it was. And, um, I saw people die. I saw people overdose
00:44:53.660 from their, from their trauma of being molested and being, you know, used as a sexual gratification 0.98
00:45:01.280 for perverted men. And I saw people, you know, take their lives over that stuff. So, you know, 0.69
00:45:08.320 I just don't want this, I want this world to get a little better. I want these little ones to have
00:45:12.280 a better chance. And, you know, um, perversion is, is, it's, it's like a fire, a fire and the more
00:45:19.180 fuel you put on it, the bigger it grows. And so, you know, pornography is one of the biggest, I think,
00:45:25.800 uh, fuels for the abuse. Um, I've seen it happen in, in many families destroyed, marriages destroyed,
00:45:37.140 um, relationships destroyed because of it. And, uh, it doesn't have to stay this way.
00:45:45.680 It can't stay this way. We've got to put it back in the dot XXX pipe. Whoever wants it can find it
00:45:53.160 there. And we have to give the choice to people to turn it off. They have no rights to push it to us.
00:46:01.160 It's like, it is a drug. Hmm. Well, you're doing powerful work. I'd love for you to share, uh, with
00:46:08.100 the guys where to go to connect more on, on both these fronts and learn more about what you're
00:46:12.120 doing, including supporting your work. Where, where can I send them? Yeah. So, uh, real
00:46:17.180 American heroes, foundation.org. You can see the projects we have in development. Uh, we got some
00:46:22.920 great war stories, uh, we're going to tell. Um, and then the council on porn reform.org. You can learn
00:46:31.400 about our mission there and our goals. Um, we have some papers there about the first amendment,
00:46:36.900 how it never covered pornography. Uh, we also have a pledge. If you want to join, uh, CPR
00:46:42.880 pledge.org council on porn reform, pledge.org. Um, you can sign up and do a porn free pledge and
00:46:53.740 you can sign it and put it on your fridge and you can get resources there about, uh, how to overcome
00:46:59.720 this, uh, this, this, this problem. It's overcomable. You know, I've been porn free now, uh, several years.
00:47:07.240 Um, feels great. Uh, I haven't always struggled with porn. There's been periods of my life where
00:47:12.860 it came and went. Um, but I know the darkest periods of my life is when it was present.
00:47:19.300 And, um, and so, um, real American heroes foundation. That's our, that's our mission.
00:47:27.180 Excellent. Well, Ricky, we'll sync everything up. Keep up the great work. It's such an honor to talk
00:47:31.000 with you. And I love when, you know, we, we, we, as men, a lot of the times can recognize some of the
00:47:35.380 problems, you know, we see it, we see what's going on. We get frustrated with it. Um, but very,
00:47:40.120 very, I'll say it this way, too few of us do anything about it. And I'm glad that you are
00:47:45.760 doing something about it. I'm excited to support you and to be able to share this message because
00:47:49.740 it is one that needs to be heard. So thanks for joining me today and sharing a little bit about
00:47:53.020 what you're doing. Thanks Ryan, man. God bless. Thank you, brother.
00:47:59.400 Gentlemen, there you go. My conversation with Ricky Schroeder. A lot of you guys know, uh, maybe not
00:48:04.300 know who Ricky is, but you know, of Ricky because we watched him as we were growing up, of course.
00:48:09.240 And, and, uh, like I said earlier, Lonesome Doves, Silver Spoons, and others. Uh, so he's got some
00:48:14.720 great initiatives that I think are worthy of looking into and celebrating and supporting if we can. So
00:48:20.900 please, uh, make sure to connect with Ricky on social media, uh, take a screenshot right now and
00:48:26.560 tag me tag Ricky tag, the real American heroes foundation. Uh, so we can start sharing these
00:48:31.360 messages of, of hope and optimism and growth. And again, celebrating men who are actually doing
00:48:36.780 something about the issues they see. That's the goal is not just to identify it or complain about
00:48:42.780 it or be upset about it, but actually do something about it. And Ricky is one of those men who, who
00:48:46.680 is, so I was honored to be able to have this conversation with him. And of course, honored
00:48:50.360 to bring it to you guys. Remember, as we close things out, uh, Montana knife company use the code
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