Striking the Balance Between Performance and Service, Constant Personal Communication, and Time Blocking in the Buffers | ASK ME ANYTHING
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On this episode of the podcast, we have Sean back on the pod! We talk about Sean's recent trip to the ER, what it's like to run a 60 hour race, and answer some of your questions!
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You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest. Embrace your fears and boldly chart your own path.
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When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time. Every time.
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You are not easily deterred or defeated. Rugged. Resilient. Strong.
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This is your life. This is who you are. This is who you will become.
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At the end of the day, and after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man.
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Sean, what's up, brother? Good to have you back.
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Two times in, what, three weeks now, I think it is, or three or four weeks?
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Kip, he felt a little bad about us making fun of him, but he said, you know, he can hang.
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He can handle it. So we won't pick on him today. We'll leave him alone.
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I think he's vacationing with his family right now, so we'll let him do his thing.
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When you have a spike in views, you just got to roll with it, right?
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That's actually, if you guys want to know the truth, I asked Kip to take a vacation from the podcast to have Sean back on it.
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I got a lot of good feedback when you came on a couple of weeks ago.
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A lot of good responses, and people reached out and messaged me.
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But let's get right into the questions today, because we've got a lot of good ones.
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And I think, let's see, these ones are coming from the Iron Council.
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Guys, by the way, let me throw this out here real quick.
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If you don't know what the Iron Council is, or you've been sitting on the fence for some time now,
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make sure you check it out, because we are going to be opening up in about two weeks.
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So middle of March, we're going to open it up, and we'll probably only have it open for a week or two,
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So if you want to know, just go to orderaman.com slash Iron Council,
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and you'll get the update, and you'll be the first to be notified.
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Did you get that thing cleaned up and trimmed up?
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I can get the neckline pretty cleaned out, but anything up here, forget about it.
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So all right, man, let's get into the questions.
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what's the most physically challenging thing you both have done in your life so far?
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So I saw these questions beforehand, because I do try to be somewhat prepared, believe it or not.
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My answers don't always lend to that, but I do try to be prepared for these things.
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There's two things that immediately came to mind.
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One was a short-term event, and other was a long-term part of my life.
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So, uh, the most physically demanding event or activity that I've ever done, uh, was thing.
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I would say it would be the Spartan and gogi.
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So that's a 60 hour endurance event and yeah, it's, it's designed to just break you down.
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Um, and I can't remember, we had 120 or so, I think participants.
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We might've ended up with like 80 or so, 80 or 90s.
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It seemed like 25 to 30% of the people dropped out of it.
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60 hours of just getting your butt kicked.
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A lot of people think of Spartan races as the racing portion of it, the running portion of it.
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There was a little bit of running here and there.
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Uh, no, I think we got two hours of sleep in that 60 hour timeframe, which might've actually
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Uh, and then we were pushing big hay bales up Hills in this muddy bog swamp going up and
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down Hills, making makeshift, um, like, uh, like, uh, stretchers to carry people that were,
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you know, wounded just so we could work that stuff out.
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We had a survival portion of the, of the class where, you know, they taught you different
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plants and animals that you could eat if you needed to.
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You see that I like anything physically challenging.
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I could care less, but when they have to eat bugs and stuff, yeah, nah, no way.
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And then the only other thing that I would say was, um, that was a little bit longer of
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It wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be.
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The guys that really struggled are the guys who never played sports or had a grown man
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like a coach, for example, getting in their faces, yelling at them.
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Um, but you know, that was four months, I guess it was two months for basic training.
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And then another 10 weeks or eight weeks for AIT advanced individual training.
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And, uh, the, the first, the first eight weeks are the hardest, but I don't remember being
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so hard that I was, I just don't remember it being that hard, but that came to mind too.
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Maybe, maybe chasing you around Hawaii last year.
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That was, I'm like, everywhere I look, Sean's like, sing, sing, sing.
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Mine's, uh, I have still kind of tendonitis through both of my arms, both of my forearms.
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And it got really bad at one point where I had to completely stop lifting.
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And to, till this day, I still don't really lift, uh, in the normal sense of the word,
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I guess you could say, um, most of the exercise that I do is more core type of stuff because
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But the reason it was physically challenging is because I just had to change the way I
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Um, literally from, you know, even shooting my bow, uh, the way I lifted things.
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Cause I don't know if you've ever had it or, or experienced it, but it's basically, you
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could literally, if you lift a book or something the wrong way or at the wrong way,
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your arm just kind of like collapses or wants to, and the, and the pain is hard to explain.
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It was a two, three years of figuring out the process of how to deal with it and compensate
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So yeah, to this day, I don't do a lot of like big lifting, um, you know, and you've
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seen me, I'm not like really big or anything, but I can, yeah, but I can go.
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It's like when we went hunting and Scott posted something, he's like thick boy hunting club
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But that's also why you were getting around so well relative to everybody else.
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I've never, fortunately, I've never had to deal with anything.
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No, no major health or bodily injuries that I've ever had to deal with.
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Um, so I know I'm really fortunate and blessed that way.
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Uh, my body's tends to be pretty resilient, which is good.
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Um, and I'm just, you know, keep my fingers crossed.
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So, yeah, but it's, it's like anything you hear people that get hurt, they injured their
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leg, they injured their arm, you know, and you just have to change the way you do everything
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So I don't know if you can see this right here in the dark, that's a new bow.
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So I've shot, the only thing that I ever do left-handed is I shoot pool left-handed.
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And so I was talking with Dudley about what, what should I do?
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Because when I, when I shoot my bow, I can't keep both of my eyes open.
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I have to close my left eye or I can't pick up a target.
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And he's like, well, you know, you should probably the quick fix is to put like a card
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or something, a blocker in on your brim in front of your left eye.
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So you can keep both eyes open, but it's blocking that field of view.
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The right thing to do is to switch to shoot left-handed.
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So I've been talking with a couple of people and decided to make the switch.
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And then I, you know, I told my wife, I'm like, Hey, I got to buy a new bow.
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Cause I'm shooting left-handed. Like it gave me a reason to buy a new bow as well.
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She didn't see through any of that or she saw right through it. I should say.
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Yeah. I think I'm going to be there. My left eye is dominant too, but it's not to the extreme
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that yours is. So I seem fine, but I think as I get older, I'll probably have to make the switch too.
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Yeah. I'll let you know how it goes. All right, man. Next question.
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All right. Jared Andrews, he says, how do you balance the unstoppable, uh, in parentheses,
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cleaner value of blocking out noise and negative feedback of lower performing members on your team,
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i.e. while being in the zone while at the same time, achieving the goal of bringing them up to your
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level. This question can apply in sports, business sales, et cetera. I'm trying to understand the
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dichotomy between winning at all costs yet slowing down to bring the others up with me. And I think
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he's referring to the book relentless by Tim Grover. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so I think this is a good
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question. So he, so I'm just trying to paraphrase here. How do you find the balance between wanting
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to excel and dominate in your life? And at the same time, turn around and assist and help those
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individuals who maybe not are at the same level as you, but at least have a desire to, or working
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towards it. That's, that's what I hear. Um, you know, here, here's what I would say. Number one is
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don't have expectations of people, you know, that lowering my expectations of others has actually
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proven to be a very valuable skill. And I'm not saying that I don't hold people to a high standard,
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especially, and almost exclusively if they've made commitments to me or working together.
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Right. So Sean, if you say, Hey Ryan, I'll be here at 11 o'clock to do the podcast and you're not,
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man, I'm going to reach out and I'm going to call you on that. Hey bro, like no call, no show. You
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told me we're going to be here. So I would expect you to uphold that. I also know that to be your
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personality, which is why we're friends and why we work together. Um, but there's other people in
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life who have made no commitments to me and who am I to say, well, they should behave this way and
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they should do that. And they should do this. Now, some B some people hearing that might think
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that's different because of my job is to tell men how to be better and how to become better,
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but I'm not offering unsolicited feedback to people either. I'm offering feedback. And if you want
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it, it's here, it's open. You come and get it. It's not like I would ever reach out to somebody and say,
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Hey, uh, you know, Joe, I, I, you, you don't know me, but I saw this thing that you post on
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Instagram and I really think you're doing life wrong. Like I'm not because I have no expectation
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of Joe and that has really, but other people do. And I have in the past and not having that
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expectation takes a big weight off of your shoulders because there's nothing I can do to
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control anyone, those people in my immediate circle. And especially those outside of my circle,
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I can influence people, but I can't control them. So first I would say, let go of the expectation
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that others have to perform to your level because they don't, and they won't. Some are going to perform
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better. Some are going to perform worse. And that's just part of life. The other side of it is
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that somebody helped you along the way, right? You had a mentor, you had a coach, you had a boss,
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your wife or a friend, somebody helped you along the way. And I think that's kind of a pay it forward
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mentality that we can't excel without the help of others. So how can we expect other people to excel
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without our help? And, and a big part of the iron council. And again, this also applies broadly
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is learning and developing the skills that you need to succeed and also mentoring those who want
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to do the same thing. Iron council has that built into the programming. Like you're not just there to
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get, you're there to give. And ironically enough, the more that you give to other people by serving
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them, the more you're going to get in return. There is a, there is a point where your service
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to others goes unnoticed or it falls on deaf ears, or it's not appreciated or even taken advantage of.
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And I think that's a line you need to be aware of because I can't pour in. I'll just use you as an
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example, Sean. I can't pour into you. Let's say you hired me as a mentor or some sort of coach,
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and I'm giving you everything I can. I'm telling you all the things that you need to, I'm, I'm
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helping you uncover answers to your own problems and just like habitually just don't implement any
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of it. At that point, I would wash my hands and say, Sean, I've appreciated our relationship. You're
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not implementing what I'm sharing with you. You're not improving. You've proven to me that you're less
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interested in your own development than I am. And I'm, I'm done. I'm out. If at some point,
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it changes in the future, you can let me know how it's changed. And if I feel like we can work
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together in this capacity in the future, sure, but not anymore. So there is a line where your service
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needs to stop. Anyways, that's what I, that's, that's, that's where I go with it.
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Yeah. I would add that, especially thinking of the book, if you're a cleaner, you're, they're never
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going to be at your level. And so, yeah, the expectation part is right. But then also
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simultaneously, you have to keep being a cleaner. You have to keep performing. And that example is
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what's going to lift other people up. So you performing at the highest level is going to make
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shots. So like if he uses obviously the analogy in his book of Michael Jordan, and I, I look at my
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business and I somehow married a woman who's a cleaner as well. Right. So it's kind of like
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Michael Jordan and Scotty Pippen with the bulls where you had two cleaners on a team and then they
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had Dennis Robin Rodman. Right. So there's like three cleaners that on any team, those guys would
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be cleaners. And, and they happen to be on the same team. And I had that in my business, but they
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can't expect anyone else on the team to be anywhere near like them. And so it's, instead of that
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expectation, you have to keep being the first one in the gym, you have to keep making the shots when
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they count, when it's, you know, you can't keep passing the ball to your, to your coolers on the
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team, or even the closers, you know, for those game winning shots, expecting them to make those shots.
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So you have to keep doing it, but your communication has to improve with those people doing it. So what
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I mean by that is like, I don't know if you've seen the Tom Brady thing. I watched it. Uh, when
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I got COVID, I was stuck in bed and I watched that man in the arena and I watched all of them. There's
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nine of them. I don't know if you've seen any of them. I haven't seen him. No, but it's basically
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his story of all of the rings that he won, except for the one with Tampa Bay to all of his time with
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the Patriots. And, um, there's a lot of great insight that you could pull from that. What I
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saw is you have a guy who no one's ever going to perform at his level. You look at what he's done
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with his body and everything else. And a lot of people attribute his success to being able to take
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care of his body. And, and that's part of it. But what I saw, the most important thing is he's
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magnificent at what I call CPC, which is constant personal communication, where if you're the highest
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achiever in a team, it's your job to be in constant communication with the people on your team
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to keep them accountable to the things that need to be getting done for you guys to win
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championships. And that's what Tom Brady got good at. As he got older, there was when he started,
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they'd say he got all these rings, right? They got these few rings to start off. And he started
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thinking, man, this is going to be easy. And then they got a different dynamic and they went 10 years
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of not a single ring. And it's frustrating. But during that 10 years, he got better at communicating
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to his team. And the way he pulled the most out of the people on his team was communicating what he
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was doing. And constantly on that accountability, and not even like calling him and being like,
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hey, you need to do this, or why aren't you doing this? It's more like, hey, guys, I'm going to be in
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the gym every day at this time, whoever wants to join me, I'm going to be there. And then you're there.
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Yeah. You know, this is what I'm doing, getting my results. Hey, I'm using this trainer, you guys
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could use them if you want, right? Anybody wants to use them, let me know, you know, but this is
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what I'm doing. And so it's letting people know what you're doing. And then constantly, almost daily.
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And that's, for me, personally, is the most frustrating part of my business is staying in
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consistent, constant contact with the people on your team that are never going to be cleaners.
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But through that process, hopefully, they learn to be closers, or they get a little bit more success,
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or they do just that little bit more that they wouldn't have otherwise done. And that pulls the
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whole team up. So it's the most frustrating part. But that improvement in your communication,
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and then just being cognizant of how you communicate when you're in the zone, because he asked that in the
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question, too, about being in the zone. And my wife and I, both being cleaners, early in our business,
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we're always focused, always working, always on our way to the next thing. And our team looked at
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that as being cold, or not caring, or not, or being mad at them, even worse, where we weren't any of
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those things. We were just focused on the next task. But we had to realize that. And when that
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happened, stop ourselves, and communicate what was going on, so that we got less and less of that
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feeling from them, right? So I think communication is the key in that.
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It's interesting that you said, how people interpreted it as cold, or that you don't care
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about them, or that you're mad at them, because I get the same thing. And I do it to my family a lot.
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And they interpret it as something that it's not. I'm just like, no, I'm not mad at all. I'm focused
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on this thing. And I think a lot of the times, guys who perform at the levels that we try to
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end up leaving a bit of a wake of collateral damage without realizing what's going on behind you,
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because you're so focused on what's in front of you, which is good. But I like that concept,
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that framework of constant personal communication, CPC, so that you're stopping and looking and making
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sure that everybody around you is still good. They're still on board. They're still with you.
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Right. Or it's like, you're running a team event and you're like, you just get out front and you
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just run. And before you know it, it gets pretty quiet and you look around and nobody else is
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around you. You're like, oh shit, this isn't an individual event. This is a team event.
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And I just burned everybody out because I could run fast. Well, that's not the objective. The
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objective wasn't to go at it alone. The objective is to do that as a team. And so you can be a cleaner
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and lead your team effectively, but you can't blow them out of the water if that's the team.
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Yeah. And I feel like in the book, he has this whole page. It's page 28 and 29. It says like,
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what a cooler, closer and cleaner does. And there's one thing in here. It says coolers think they want the
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spotlight, but when they get it, they usually handle it badly. Closers stand in front because they need to
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show who's in charge and cleaners don't have to show who's in charge. Everybody already knows.
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And so, you know, I thought in a sense of if you're just doing your thing, like when you started the
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iron council, when you started order a man, I wasn't around, but you have guys that you talked about
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this in our call this week about the guys who were originally there. You had Gatch and Reese and some of
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those guys, right? Well, they knew that you were doing something special because they could feel it.
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It wasn't as much what you said, what you, you know, how you tried to portray yourself,
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you trying to be in front. They just saw what you were doing and they knew if they grabbed onto
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your coattails and they might not have realized this is what was happening, but they just knew
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something that if they grabbed onto your coattails, you were going to take them somewhere,
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right? This was something special. And now in that process, like you don't have to call Gatch and
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be on, I'm assuming all the time, like, Hey, are you doing this? Are you running this? Are you
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communicating this? Right. You don't have to do that with the Reese. You don't have to do that
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with any of the leaders who has stepped up to your level. And now you have those cleaners on your team,
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but it was from you just doing you in the beginning. And then those guys pulled themselves
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Yeah. I mean, I hope that's the case. Cool. What's next?
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Justin Gelsma. He asks on the man in the making podcast, you mentioned your phone is always on
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silent mode. How does that work? Do you check it periodically and return messages as needed?
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Yeah, I don't, I don't have, so I turn off all notifications. I don't, I don't get,
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I don't get any notifications. I don't get text notifications, phone calls, updates on different
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apps and social media outlets. I get nothing because if I do, in fact, I have our system that
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we use for the iron council pulled up on my browser right now, because I have the questions loaded
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and I can hear it beeping every once in a while when somebody sends a new message or responds to
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something. So it's beeping at me. And even that is just distracting.
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You know, so I can't imagine what it would be like to have all of your notifications,
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ding, ding, ding, all the, it would be nonstop. So what I usually do is I block, I, I, I block in
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the buffers is, is, is what I call it. So I have buffers between schedules. So you and me will be
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wrapped up here around noon, but we got started a little late. So it'll probably go to like 12,
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12, 10, 12, 15, someone right in there. Well, that's okay. Because my next appointment is at
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1230. It was, I didn't make my next appointment at noon. I made it at 1230 because I know things go
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late. Little fires need to be put out in those buffers. I'm blocking the things that need to
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get done. So for example, in that gap, I don't need to prepare for my next meeting. Cause that's
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not a meeting I need to prepare for. It's a phone call. So I can use that time to just send out a
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few texts, respond to a couple of messages and maybe get to some of my DMS on Instagram. And I
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block in that buffer. So I'm just working in that buffer. And that's it. Like it's, it's really
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simple, but I, but I'm so much more effective in 30 minutes with my time management on the phone
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than I could be in three hours because it's only hyper-focused time where I'm doing that
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particular activity. And then the other times I'm hyper-focused on this. Like I'm not, I'm not
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checking messages. I'm not like, I'm all in on this. The only other thing that I'm doing that
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people may not know is I'm taking notes. Like I, I like to take notes as we talk. Um, I wrote down
00:24:33.920
here, CPC, that was a framework you just shared. Cause I like that. That's cool. I want to remember
00:24:37.880
that. Um, but outside of that, like I'm, I'm fully present and engaged in this conversation
00:24:43.340
by speaking and listening and that's it. So that's how I do it. Yeah. What do you do?
00:24:48.740
I just turn off all notifications and it actually, I shouldn't say that not all, but all the ones
00:24:56.120
available to us, you know, every app you load on your phone or everything you, you put on there,
00:25:01.080
they all ask you if you want push notifications. So I have no, no, automatically no. Um,
00:25:07.660
but for things that are more important or if there's relationships I want to develop. I mean,
00:25:13.900
if I'm being totally honest on Instagram, I'll push notifications from certain people,
00:25:18.940
meaning that if they post something or they put something on their story or they do something,
00:25:23.660
I'll get it and then I can respond. So it helps me stay in communication with those people. And so
00:25:30.900
things like that I'll do, but do you still do that? Do you still do that in just as it comes up or do
00:25:38.500
you do that at a certain period of time? So let's say for example, cause I'm, I'm sure, you know,
00:25:43.140
you get notifications from me and you're following me and you want to make that relationship work.
00:25:47.960
That's a joke. I don't really know if you are doing that or not. Um, and I don't expect you to,
00:25:52.820
but let's just hypothetically say that you are, are you just like, if I were to send something out,
00:25:58.340
are you going to immediately respond to that? Or do you have certain times of the day where you're
00:26:01.800
like, Oh, okay. Yeah. Ryan shared something cool. And Steve and John and Bill, okay. I'll just go
00:26:06.260
respond to those five people right now all at once. That it's both. So if I'm in the middle of
00:26:14.720
some, like I could be doing a task that I can multitask with. And if that's the case and I get
00:26:21.300
that notification, I'll click on it and be like, Oh, well, you know, check that out. Um, this happened
00:26:27.000
when, when we went hunting, it, this is a good example of that there it's, I was in my garage.
00:26:34.920
I was doing just kind of like, I don't want to say meaningless, but you know, brainless tasks
00:26:40.440
in the garage. And the thing said, came up that said you were going live and I'd been listening
00:26:45.620
to a podcast or something when it popped up. So I just clicked on it and it goes to a live thing with
00:26:50.940
you. And you happen to be talking about how, you know, people don't deliver on their promises or
00:26:58.560
something like that. Right. And you were in a little rant, but then you're like, I have this
00:27:02.700
hunt coming up and I've reached out to people and it's amazing how many guys are like, well,
00:27:07.640
I don't know. And, uh, when, and, and all the stuff you were like, I'm just looking for a yes or no.
00:27:14.500
When you think you want to go, I'll send you the information. If not, tell me you're not
00:27:18.520
interested. Right. And that's fine too. Yeah. And that's fine too. And you're like, I just,
00:27:23.000
I can't find guys that are willing to commit or whatever. And so I just sent you a text saying,
00:27:28.340
Hey, when's the hunt? That was it during the thing. And while you were in that live, you're
00:27:33.080
like, look, like my buddy, Sean just texted me this, like, when's the hunt? You know, obviously
00:27:38.180
he's on, but that's what I'm talking about. Like you just, if you're interested, you let me know.
00:27:43.100
If not, you say no, but no humming and hawing in between. Right. So that push notification
00:27:48.780
is what got me on that hunt with you guys. Does that make sense? And so you, you, you were on
00:27:55.600
those pushes before, because I wanted to build that relationship and you still are because it's
00:28:00.380
just, I never took it off. Right. But, um, you're just waiting for the next, you just, you're just
00:28:05.580
waiting to get invited on the next hunt. You don't care about anything else. Just as long as you can get
00:28:09.860
me on a hunt. And obviously that wasn't the intention. I just wanted to be more in tune
00:28:16.320
with what you're talking about, because that what you're trying to do with order of man is
00:28:21.260
important to me, um, in helping get that message out there. So the more things I could be in tune
00:28:27.040
with that you're putting out there, if I could share those and whatever, that was my intention
00:28:30.960
is that I can keep putting like sharing that stuff and putting it out there as it came up.
00:28:35.220
Um, but that just happened to happen because, you know, I had that notification.
00:28:41.680
So one of the things I'm hearing you say, as you say that is you might have exceptions to the
00:28:47.180
notification rule, but here's the distinction I'm hearing between what I think most people do
00:28:52.580
is you're very intentional about it. It's not like leave all notifications up for whatever. No,
00:28:58.960
it's like, I'm okay with getting notifications from these few people that I want to stay connected
00:29:04.720
with. So it's, even though you might have those, we'll just call them interruptions.
00:29:11.320
There are still intentional interruptions where you're like, Oh no, I would interrupt what I'm
00:29:16.600
doing at least to take a look at what this person's doing or saying or sharing or emailing me about.
00:29:22.920
If I was in a meeting, if I was doing something for my business specifically, if I was with a client,
00:29:29.420
if I was with one of my kids and we're, you know, doing scripture time or having a talk at night
00:29:34.360
or something, you know, I'm not going to in mid talk, I see, Oh, Ryan's going live and then click
00:29:40.920
It's not going to supersede. It doesn't automatically take the place of kind of,
00:29:48.500
if you took the Covey, you know, what's important, the most important go down from there.
00:29:52.980
It's not going to go immediately to the top of the list, but if I'm doing something of lower
00:29:57.020
importance, then I can check it. You know, otherwise it's like you said,
00:30:01.200
I only check emails and those things early in the morning before anyone's up in my house.
00:30:06.620
Like I get up usually five, five 30 before anyone's up. I'm doing emails, all the monotonous
00:30:12.160
tasks that aren't going to be getting me growth results throughout my day. And then I do it the
00:30:21.140
same thing late at night. So the whole middle of the day, if I can be making phone calls and things
00:30:26.000
that grow my business that, you know, serve me for growth, I do those and anything monotonous
00:30:32.160
that could be done in off times. That's when I do those things.
00:30:38.400
There's one of the thing I've been thinking about too, as we we've discussed this a little bit is
00:30:42.780
that I think these little devices that we have, have conditioned us to believe that just because
00:30:49.060
someone reaches out that we owe them an immediate response. So if somebody texts you,
00:30:54.960
you got to text them right back. If somebody sends a message on Instagram, you got to message
00:30:59.860
them right back. I've even seen like phone call. Oh, they're calling. I got to call them because
00:31:03.600
you always have this device. I've even seen people, my family does this and my wife always laughs at
00:31:08.980
me. She's like, Hey, so-and-so came by. Did you get the door? I'm like, no. And she's like, well,
00:31:14.680
you were home. You didn't get the door. I'm like, yeah, I was working. She's like, oh,
00:31:17.960
you're on a podcast. I said, no, maybe I was sending emails or working on the book. She's like,
00:31:22.620
and you didn't stop to get the door. No, I don't. It's not my responsibility to acquiesce to your
00:31:28.360
request of, of my time and attention and energy. Like I'm, I don't owe you to answer the door. I
00:31:35.080
don't owe you to pick up the phone call. I don't owe you a message within the first 10 seconds of
00:31:39.720
receiving it. I will do it on my time unless, you know, of course there's exceptions. If it's an
00:31:44.560
emergency from, of course, right. But that's not what I'm saying. Um, I'm, I've just gotten
00:31:49.840
completely okay with managing my schedule on my time. And if you want some of my time,
00:31:56.160
I'll make that time a hundred percent for those people I care about. I will make that time,
00:32:00.840
but it's going to be on my time. Like I had a buddy reach out. He's going on, um,
00:32:05.420
Jocko's podcast. And he's like, Hey, can I, can I have a call with you about like preparing for it
00:32:11.900
and getting ready? I'm like, yeah, sure. Here's the time I'm available. And if it can work,
00:32:17.660
it works. And if it doesn't let's on him, that's his problem. I'll make myself available,
00:32:21.660
but it's within my constraints. Yeah. Well, just think of the simple thing as somebody dropping
00:32:27.340
something off at your house. The goal was to drop something at your house, but if you go open the
00:32:32.180
door now and they're there, that could take up 15, 20 minutes of just talking about not or more of
00:32:37.940
talking about nothing. Cause you, they want to catch up or, you know, who knows, maybe they're
00:32:43.220
hoping you're going to answer the door so they can tell you about some problem they're having.
00:32:46.700
Right. And that's that just maybe, yeah, I, I don't know. My wife teases me about that too.
00:32:52.820
Cause as soon as that happens, she says you're, I can literally see your eyes glaze over as soon
00:32:59.300
as people start talking about whatever they're dealing with. Oh yeah. Well, that's about how I
00:33:04.640
feel. All right. What's next. Right. Brett Huber. And he said, it's a little lengthy. He posted
00:33:13.420
it on the fatherhood page. So here we go. The basics are that my 11 year old daughter confided
00:33:19.420
in me and broke down that she feels like her mom, my wife doesn't love her reacts negatively to her.
00:33:25.020
And my daughter doesn't trust her enough to talk to her about it or basically anything because of
00:33:29.300
those reactions. I was heartbroken hearing all of this come out. I believe my wife will be too.
00:33:35.800
My wife deals with some pretty serious depression, takes medication, and I believe does her best with
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it, but the ups and downs are still a very real part of our life. She has a really good relationship
00:33:46.980
with our older daughter. And I didn't expect this from my youngest, my wife and oldest daughter
00:33:51.820
were out of town at a volleyball tournament. They've been traveling and my wife was pissy,
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not the right time for this right. As she walked in the door, but I feel like I need to start this
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emotional conversation between them soon for two reasons. One, I want my daughter to have the
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confidence and courage to confront anyone in her life who's causing her pain to explain her feelings
00:34:12.320
and grow from the experience. She needs to learn that she's the one who decides how much the actions
00:34:17.320
of others affect her. And two, there's no way this is intended by my wife, but clearly there's a
00:34:22.920
disconnect and she isn't aware of the impact. I can't go, I can't be the go between, but I feel like
00:34:30.080
I can initiate the tough conversation and hopefully ensure it stays calm and productive. Any thoughts or
00:34:36.340
advice from any of you is appreciated. Well, I think, I think you alluded to the answer right at
00:34:42.840
the end there. Number one, you owe it to your wife to talk with her. Like, and you are, I'm not saying
00:34:48.340
you aren't, but be guys be very careful of having conversations with your children and then excluding
00:34:54.520
your spouse from those conversations. That's not right. Like the classic example is a little,
00:35:03.680
little Timmy or Lily set little Sally gets in trouble with mom or dad and then ask mom or dad
00:35:09.220
not to tell the other one. No, sorry. We're, we're a partnership. You know, if, if my, if my son does
00:35:16.660
something and my wife knows about it, she's telling me like, that's not even a question because we've
00:35:23.140
discussed that. And it's important that both of us know, because we both look at those scenarios
00:35:27.380
through a different lens, which is why we're married and have kids together to compliment each other
00:35:32.500
and to play off of each other. So yeah, don't, don't hold it. And you already said to, she likely
00:35:37.860
doesn't know, but also your daughter needs to learn a valuable lesson in that. If there's something
00:35:42.580
that's on her mind and something that's bothering her, she can't hold up and she can't shell up.
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She needs to have difficult conversations with people because I guarantee, I don't want to guarantee,
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but I'd be willing to bet that when your wife finds out, she's probably going to be upset about
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it. Sure. But she's also probably going to change her behavior based on the limited information that
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we have here. And it's going to get better at least for a time. So this is a powerful moment
00:36:12.140
for your daughter to learn how to have a healthy conversation. That's uncomfortable and to show some
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courage around that. So what I would suggest is talking with your wife about what's going on in
00:36:27.100
the way that you've interpreted your daughter's feedback, talk with your daughter about why it's
00:36:31.780
important that you share with mom. And you might even be able to have that conversation with all
00:36:39.420
three of them together. I don't, I don't, it doesn't sound, it sounds like you may have another daughter
00:36:44.620
is the way I kind of read that. I don't, I don't think this is your only daughter.
00:36:48.000
Yeah. Yeah. As an older and this is his younger. Okay. Okay. Cause I was going to say if,
00:36:52.460
if it was just your, your only daughter, you could around the dinner table, you could have some really
00:36:56.260
powerful conversations, but with the older daughter there, that might not be appropriate,
00:36:59.420
but maybe there's an opportunity for you guys to go out or, or to carve out some time in the morning
00:37:05.360
or, or while you're doing something and you can at least broach the subject where you're there.
00:37:10.140
So your daughter feels more comfortable because you're there and your wife might be able to see
00:37:17.580
it differently because she can't see it now, but also you have to excuse yourself from it at some
00:37:22.240
point, right? Like you can't always be in the middle, but I think there's an opportunity for
00:37:27.600
you to be in the middle in this environment, at least initially, and then go ahead and bow out
00:37:32.060
now that they're having the conversation and they're, they're discussing what needs to be discussed.
00:37:37.300
But yeah, I don't, I don't, you said, you said it yourself, your wife doesn't likely know,
00:37:42.820
but she needs to know and you need to be the one to bring it to her. But your daughter also needs to
00:37:48.700
learn how to have a tough conversation and you can foster and facilitate that as well.
00:37:53.560
Yeah, that was perfect. The only thing I would add is make sure that in your conversation with your
00:37:59.860
daughter, that you explain to her maybe why your wife communicates that way with her and make sure
00:38:09.340
that you have your wife's back because the last thing you want to happen when you go to your daughter
00:38:14.900
or your wife with your daughter, that she feels like she's being ganged up on. So if you have that
00:38:23.480
conversation with your daughter and you're like, I know, honey, I know she does that. I'm sorry.
00:38:27.880
That's the wrong way to do it. The right way to do it is, you know what, honey, I know she does that,
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but here's why it's because she cares about you. And she doesn't, maybe she doesn't communicate it
00:38:38.680
the way that you like, but here's her intention. So, you know, most parents ruin, they mess this one
00:38:45.300
up because they don't communicate well enough with each other. And maybe they're even mad at the way
00:38:51.180
they communicate with each other. And then when one of their kids start complaining about one of
00:38:54.340
those things, they take their side. Don't ever take your kid's side. You and your wife,
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the partnership, you're the most important in that relationship and that dynamic. So make sure,
00:39:06.640
even if you agree with your daughter, that you still have your wife's back and you communicate
00:39:10.520
that to your daughter before you set it up between the three of you or the two of them.
00:39:16.560
I think that advice could even work in a strained relationship between exes. You know,
00:39:21.840
like, let's say you have an ex and she's a bit maybe vindictive or says things about you or,
00:39:28.680
and, and then your daughter or son says, well, you know, mom is saying all these things about you.
00:39:34.120
Well, it might be easy for you and you might have a desire to really go after her, but what if instead
00:39:40.560
say, Hey, you know, we've, we've had a hard relationship and there's been some strains
00:39:45.520
that both of us have an element of responsibility for.
00:39:48.680
But the thing that you need to know is that your mom does love you and she wants to make sure
00:39:53.980
that the environment around you is the best. Like you don't have to lie or make stuff up or blow
00:39:59.280
smoke up your kids, you know, but, but like that, that might be a healthy way to approach
00:40:05.420
these conversations, you know, that, that, that are happening. But I do like that advice of
00:40:10.300
not taking the other side. I had a, I had an experience just a week or so ago where, um,
00:40:18.000
somebody had said something about something I said in a negative context to other people.
00:40:26.600
And instead of just being upset about it, I reached out to that person. I said, Hey man, like,
00:40:31.240
why did you, why did you say this? Like, if you had a problem, all you had to do was come to me.
00:40:37.140
And we had a really healthy discussion about it because I was willing to have that conversation.
00:40:42.920
And, and, and I, my whole goal was that we both walk away knowing that we're not supposed to throw
00:40:49.160
each other under the bus. Like we're supposed to lift each other up and prop each other up.
00:40:54.280
Things can be addressed, but issues need to be addressed between us, not everybody else.
00:40:59.300
So you need to be willing to have those conversations. It's very powerful. And you
00:41:03.360
know, what was good about it too is immediately a weight was lifted off of my shoulders and the
00:41:09.860
individual was able to share some things that he needed to share. And it was great because I was
00:41:15.080
willing to have that conversation head on. Yeah. Yeah. I like it. What's next?
00:41:20.820
Next is John freeze. He asks, how do you strike a balance between really pushing yourself and setting
00:41:29.720
goals that are unattainable and getting discouraged for failing?
00:41:36.060
Failure is an interesting one, especially in the self-help space. Cause we, we despise it. We're,
00:41:41.820
we're so repulsed by it that we can't even barely utter the word I failed. It's, it's really wild to me.
00:41:50.540
Like we'll, we'll make up the acronyms, right? The first attempt in learning and fail forward and
00:41:57.080
fail fast and fail. Like, and it's like, we're, we try to craft everything that we possibly can to
00:42:03.280
avoid just saying, no, I failed on that. And I don't, I don't know if it's something I learned or
00:42:07.780
something I've always had. Like, I don't, I don't actually have a problem with failure.
00:42:12.720
Maybe I've failed enough where I'm like, yeah, okay. It's not the end of the world. That's probably
00:42:15.920
what it is, but I don't, I don't have a problem saying I failed. Like I'll even post
00:42:20.380
some things that, you know, I failed, failed on and people are like, well, you know, you didn't
00:42:23.920
fail. You learned like, well, no, I failed. And I learned, but I did not fail. I, I failed to meet
00:42:30.700
my objective and therefore I failed, you know? So I think we have to have a healthy dose of reality
00:42:38.520
that we are going to fail. Like you're going to fail a hundred percent. You're going to fail.
00:42:44.720
And if you aren't willing to admit that, then you aren't going to do anything that stretches
00:42:50.120
you outside your comfort zone because you can't stand it. You can't deal with it. Right. But if
00:42:56.560
you said, no, I know I'm going to fail, like I'm going to start this podcast and maybe it's going
00:43:00.300
to work and maybe it isn't. And you know, people are going to ignore me or I'm going to get, you know,
00:43:05.660
mocked or other people are going to decline to come on and do a podcast. And if you're really,
00:43:11.440
really honest with yourself about that, it's almost like giving your, your, your enemy of a face,
00:43:18.760
a face and a name. And now, because you know what it looks like, you can actually deal with it in a
00:43:24.060
healthy way. But if you're always trying to hide from, I don't want to look like a loser. I don't
00:43:28.100
want people to think less of me. I don't want to fail, man. You're going to run away every time when
00:43:34.820
something gets just a little bit hard. So I know that doesn't answer your question directly,
00:43:39.500
but I think it's really, really important that we address this healthy relationship with failure.
00:43:45.080
And then what most people have is a very unhealthy, destructive relationship with it. And I think
00:43:52.220
if you get healthy about it, you're going to push harder than you did before you realize that,
00:43:59.140
you know, you're afraid of failing. Yeah. And I think this is where sports is valuable,
00:44:05.200
especially if you grew up playing, cause I know you grew up playing baseball and baseball.
00:44:10.340
Yeah. To me, baseball was so valuable, so much more valuable than any other sports.
00:44:16.200
Mainly because of the percentages for doing well are much lower in baseball. You look at baseball
00:44:24.600
compared to basketball, right? Like for you to be in the hall of fame in basketball, you need a 90 plus
00:44:30.180
percentage, you know, shooting percentage, which means you, you, your failure percentage is super
00:44:37.320
low for you to be considered one of the greats, but in baseball, you're failing 70% of the time and
00:44:43.360
you still make it into the hall of fame. And you're still amazing. Yeah. Yeah. And so that was valuable.
00:44:48.580
I think to me as a kid where you just, you learn to fail and keep your head up and run back to the
00:44:53.400
dugout and be ready for the next step back. Right. And so, you know, those sorts of things.
00:44:58.300
It's I I've always kind of attributed my view on that back to that experience growing up in that
00:45:05.700
sort of a sport and the challenge about, uh, think about wrestling. Yeah. Like that's like,
00:45:12.780
it's, I'm not gonna say it's even worse, but cause your percentages shouldn't be, you know, 300 and,
00:45:18.880
and you're considered awesome. But, uh, man, you go out there and you're in this tiny singlet. I mean,
00:45:26.480
you might as well be, you're damn near naked really. And you go out there with one other person
00:45:32.240
and that person is trying to physically dominate you. And they do. And think about how hard that
00:45:41.000
is. I mean, we've had UFC fighters, uh, on the podcast and think about what that's like,
00:45:46.220
like getting your ass kicked in front of hundreds of thousands of people that, you know, are critiquing
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you and telling you all the things you should and shouldn't have done. And, and you're, you're,
00:45:59.280
you're in an octagon with one other man. He's trying to exert himself upon you. Like talk about
00:46:05.740
failure, but the more those guys fail, they can have that. Well that, but then also they take
00:46:11.680
their pride on being physically dominant and then they're dominated. It's man, I can't imagine what
00:46:18.320
that would be like, but that probably gives you a healthy sense of humility, uh, to, to drive on
00:46:23.880
and get back in the ring and do it again. Yeah. I had one other thought on that question and that,
00:46:30.360
um, I saw this when I first got into iron council on the first battle team I was on where I had,
00:46:37.660
I was getting a lot of a hundred percent in my quadrants every week and was asked like,
00:46:43.260
are you making it too easy? And, um, you know, my, it's, I'm like, no, I'm just, I know my threshold
00:46:50.660
and I, I know what I can achieve and I also know what pushes myself. So it's not like I wasn't
00:46:55.700
pushing myself the whole time, you know, but I was getting it done where if I doubled the number
00:47:00.900
and I'm getting 50%, that doesn't serve me. Um, and so I need those little wins. Everybody needs
00:47:08.100
those little wins. I see it when people come in, you know, the business that I'm in,
00:47:12.240
you get someone that is making $50,000 a year and you help them put a business plan together
00:47:17.300
and they say, you know, they're going to be making a million dollars their first year or their first
00:47:22.220
couple of years, you know, and have guys done that. Yeah. Should that be your expectation? No,
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most likely you're going to fail in that. Why don't you start with a hundred grand?
00:47:32.260
That's twice as much as you've ever made in your life. Let's start there. Right. And on track to a
00:47:37.620
million. Um, and the, the likelihood that that's going to happen is a lot better. Now, if you go
00:47:43.620
out and you make two or two 50, you far exceeded that and you're never going to be more excited.
00:47:48.720
But if your expectation was a million and it was too high and you hit 200, you're going to feel like
00:47:53.700
a failure still, you know, and you might, you know, feel sad and it might get you to quit. So you need to
00:47:59.000
have these little wins along the way that are attainable, um, till it becomes a habit that you're
00:48:06.340
constantly pushing yourself to do a little bit more. It's like the story that, that English,
00:48:11.300
uh, bike riding team, right. Cycling team that was like the worst in the world. And then their coach
00:48:17.800
came in and, and focused on the 1% better every day. 1% better. 1% doesn't seem like it's moving
00:48:26.020
the needle, but 1% improvement with, you know, compounded over time turns you into the best in
00:48:33.340
the world. And that's what happened with that cycling team. It's the same with us. We, we need
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to, it is a dichotomy, but you're better off, uh, ratcheting down the big goals. Um, and then
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achieving all of the smaller ones in route to the larger ones. Sure. Well, I also think you need to
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have people around you who can give you a realistic expectation of what it's going to take.
00:49:00.480
Yes. Because that's, this goes back to your story of business coaching. You know, if you've made 50
00:49:04.560
grand your whole life and you're like, okay, I want to make 5 million this year. Like a business
00:49:08.340
coach is going to say, okay, cool. Hold your horses a little bit, you know, slow, slow it down.
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Let's get these fundamentals in place. And I'm going to go, I'm going to help you get from 50 to a hundred,
00:49:18.720
but we're not getting to 5 million today. My take is 10 years to get to that point.
00:49:23.080
So these people around you, what's that? I was going to say, or show you the real
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numbers that it's going to take to do that. You can do that, but here's what you're going to have
00:49:32.580
to do. Right. And if you don't think you can do that, what do you think you can do? Okay. And
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if you think you can do this, here's where you're going to land. Then the other thing I would say is
00:49:42.380
making sure that your goals and objectives on the other side of things are just real. They're,
00:49:47.700
they're, they're, they're relevant. They're realistic. You know, if I said, for example,
00:49:53.160
that I'm going to be an astronaut this year, like that's number one, that's not realistic
00:50:00.460
because there's people who are way more qualified than I am. And number two, it's not even relevant.
00:50:05.600
Like, I don't, I mean, that would be cool, but I don't care enough about it to pursue that.
00:50:10.140
So like, why am I making that goal? But we do that a lot. Actually, I used to do that because
00:50:14.700
there's a bunch of people I follow on social media and I started picking up, you know, their hobbies
00:50:18.740
and their activities and doing what they're doing because I thought they were cool or I thought they
00:50:22.240
were, you know, the epitome of what I was supposed to be. And then I realized, oh, I'm not actually
00:50:27.460
doing this for me. Like I'm doing this to be validated by them or validated by somebody else,
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but I don't even care about this thing. And so I let it go and started pursuing the things that
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were relevant to me. And life's a whole lot better when you're doing it that way.
00:50:41.720
Yeah. And you, then you have to also find a system that works for you to implement those
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things. Yeah. Right. And that's, that's why I like the battle plan that you put together
00:50:54.100
because it focuses you daily on the tasks necessary to achieve what you need to in each
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of your quadrants. And so you're focused on the now and not, you know, the, whether it's
00:51:06.500
the failing aspect or whatever else, it's what you can control today in this moment.
00:51:10.220
Yeah. And it's also quarterly objectives. So like really how much are you going to change
00:51:15.940
the world in the next 90 days? Probably not the world, but you could definitely change your
00:51:21.800
family dynamic. You can definitely work on changing the culture in your business. You
00:51:27.480
could definitely empower and embolden the people in your neighborhood to live better lives.
00:51:34.120
So you can do a lot in 90 days, but you aren't going to change the world in 90 days. Now you
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stack enough of those together. Yeah. You're going to start making some, some major impacts.
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Yeah. I mean, shoot. One of the first things I did with the first battle plan, when I started
00:51:47.700
the IC was my 90 days for my family dynamic is I wanted to stop yelling at my kids.
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And so out of 90 days, I wasn't, I mean, I was not quite, but Holy smokes going from yelling at
00:52:01.720
them almost every day to not that, that moved the needle significantly in our entire family dynamic.
00:52:13.000
Corey Danell asks, you mentioned a couple of weeks ago, your wife was traveling and you were handling
00:52:18.940
the kids in the house. What were some action steps you took while your wife was gone to ensure you
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still had everything done, uh, battle plan. He has in parentheses while doing double duty,
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appreciate all the value that AMAs have to offer. Keep it up.
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So one of the first things I do, cause, cause my wife will leave occasionally should go out of town
00:52:39.720
for a couple of days or whatever, and spend some time with friends or family. And so I'm here with
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the kiddos and I've also got work. So, I mean, these aren't, these aren't just spur of the moment
00:52:48.540
trips. Like I know about these trips for, you know, four, six, eight weeks ahead of time. And so
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what I'll do leading up to my wife leaving is I'll go double time the week before. So I record at this
00:53:01.860
point, a podcast every, I mean, it's three to four a week. Last week, I actually did 13 podcasts last
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week, three of my own, and then another 10 for other, other shows that asked me to go on. So, you
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know, it's a, it's a busy podcasting schedule among other things. And so what I'll do is know,
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okay, well, my wife's leaving from Wednesday through Sunday. So that I want to be present.
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I need to do the homeschooling stuff. I need to make them lunch. Like there's things I need to do
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with the kids. So I'm going to be, I'm not going to be able to do my work Wednesday through Friday.
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Okay. Well, it still has to get done. So I make it up ahead of time.
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Um, so I'll record, instead of recording, uh, three podcasts of my own the week before I'll
00:53:44.620
record six that week and I'll go hard on getting everything lined up so that when those three or
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four or five days come up, I can be fully present and take on the load of what she, the weight that
00:53:55.660
she carries within the home. Uh, and that, that alone, that that's how you do it. That's how you
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be focused. And that's how you can be present with what's important right in front of you,
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but not shirk your duties and responsibilities. Now, as far as my tactics, you, those things
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change a little bit, right? Like going to jujitsu with my four kids on Wednesday night, if Trish
00:54:20.140
is gone could work, it wouldn't be enjoyable and it probably wouldn't be all that productive
00:54:26.600
and everybody else would be pissed off at me probably. So that might not work, but could
00:54:32.680
I do a workout, an hour long workout with my kids in the driveway, um, or in the, or
00:54:38.160
doing, you know, a circuit in the house a hundred percent. I could do that. And that would still
00:54:43.820
meet my objective or excuse me, my tactic of, of getting my, my exercise in. Right. So you
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might need to tweak your tactics a little bit, not that you get to shirk them, not that you get
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to do that indefinitely, but just adjust or adapt as you have these life circumstances come
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up or, you know, she's going to be gone. So if you really feel like I need to get to jujitsu
00:55:05.120
on Wednesday night, okay, get a sitter. Like you can do that. Like what, what's keeping
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you from planning ahead and calling the sitter. And so your wife having to do it. Right. So
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there's, there's things and ways you can do it. Just need a little pre-planning and you
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need to bust your tail the week before so that you're ready for the week of.
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Yeah. That's spot on. And what I heard in that is communication that we already talked
00:55:28.760
about before you guys communicate enough that you're on the same page. You also, I'm
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sure knew what the kids had that week, every single one of the kids, what they had, what
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the times, where they were, um, put that in as your non-negotiables and then you can work
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the rest around that. I'm assuming, right. It's kind of alluded to that, but I just want
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to, you know, maybe clarify on that part. Right. Yeah. One specific thing that my wife
00:55:58.280
does that's very helpful is, so this last trip she was gone for, I think it was four
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days. Yes. Four days. And she had an eight by 11 sheet of paper for each day. So like Thursday
00:56:15.860
it was chore list and it showed me who had what, and then lunch, you know, our second
00:56:22.780
was going to make lunch on Thursday and then dinner. Here's the food. Here's what
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it is. Our oldest is going to make dinner. And then Friday, here's the three or four
00:56:34.460
chores. Here's the food list. So like she plans it out really well too. And she also
00:56:40.120
with homeschooling, she puts together their, we call them packets. It's basically their
00:56:44.820
assignments for the day. She'll put them together in, in daily packets. So she's
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like, here's, here's your daughter's Thursday packet. And so we can just go
00:56:54.760
through that. It's, she organizes a lot of that, which obviously takes a lot of the
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workload off as well. Yeah. So I'm glad I asked that because basically what you just
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said is she does the same thing you do. She loads up the week before for that week
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while she's gone too. And the combination of the boats is what works.
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Right. Josh Guerrero asks, in a world that seems to be plunging into chaos and becoming
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more unpredictable, what are the key things that we as men should be doing in order to
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prepare as things are likely to keep getting worse?
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Yeah. I mean, I kind of feel like I've gone over these a lot, but like I would reiterate a
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couple of things. Number one, get your financial house in order. Obviously that's a big area of
00:57:41.140
the life that you deal with. Right. So even as COVID started to take place a couple of years
00:57:45.780
ago, like I pulled out quite a bit of money out of the bank because at the time when it was crazy
00:57:51.440
and nobody knew what in the world was going on, I'm like, what is happening? So I pulled a bunch
00:57:55.060
of money out of the bank and I keep that on hand, you know? So that was one little change
00:58:00.520
that I made. Our portfolio, our investment portfolio stayed pretty much the same, but we
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have rental properties. So every time I hear on the news about inflation and home values are going
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up, I'm like, good, keep going. I like that because my rentals rates go up. The value of our property
00:58:20.460
goes up. I have no problem with that because our financial house is in order. That's where most
00:58:26.620
people get it wrong is their financial house isn't in order. And maybe they had a bankruptcy
00:58:31.940
two years ago. And so now they're renting and they're negatively impact by the fact that rates
00:58:38.260
are going up. Whereas I'm positively impacted by it because I made good financial decisions
00:58:44.120
five, six, 10 years ago. And we've been continuing to make those decisions. There's other investment
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opportunities that have come up because our financial house is in order. And as these opportunities
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present themselves, we're in the position to take advantage of them. So definitely having your
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financial house in order. I would also make sure that you're developing marketable skills. So learning
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how to communicate, learning how to network, maybe there's a specific craft that you need to develop or
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learn based on what your market is or what you do for work. But learning those marketable skills
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is important. Building your network is hugely important. If I stop order of man today, or
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for some reason, the plug got pulled and I couldn't do it anymore. I'd have a new gig lined up this
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afternoon. And I'm not trying to be arrogant about that, but that's the reality because I've spent
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seven years at this point building a powerful network with powerful people.
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Uh, and then the other front I would say is your provisions. So that's your food storage. Um,
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we just bought about a thousand or so dollars worth of food storage from, I believe it's called
00:59:57.840
Patriot supply or my Patriot supply. So, um, my wife and I worked on that a little bit, water,
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water filtration systems, fuel. We've got a generator in place, uh, in case the power of the grid goes down,
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we're looking at solar as, as another viable option. Um, and then firearms ammunition. I mean,
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we, we all know what it is. The, the, the challenge is it gets overwhelming because there's so much.
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And so one thing that we've done with food provisions is that every time my wife goes
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grocery shopping, which is usually about once a week or so, um, she'll always get a little more food,
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like an extra couple of bags of rice or an extra case of water, um, or some, some canned items.
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I just bought her a freeze dryer. So every day she's freeze drying and vacuum sealing new stuff.
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And so we're not doing it all at once. It's like the financial thing. I didn't just make the decision
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to be financially abundant. And then the next day I was like, I've been doing it for 10 years,
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well, 15 years at this point. And that's what it takes doing it every single day,
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little bit at a time. Like the, the, the, is it called like the Kaizen method? The 1% better every
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single day or the Kaizen or I think that's what it's called. Something like that. Yeah.
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That's what it is. So do it now. If you don't do it now in the next two to three years,
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you're going to find yourself in a bad situation, asking the same question to a bunch of strangers
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on a podcast, like do it now 1% better every single day. And before you know it,
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you find yourself in a much better scenario than you were a year or two ago.
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Yeah. It's, as you said that, that was spot on. The only thing I would add is to have him read
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sovereignty again. And as he's going through that highlight, what he thinks are the biggest holes
01:01:47.380
in his boat and then fill those holes, whatever it is, you know, and, and start there most important
01:01:54.040
to least important, just work your way down that list. Well, that's a, that's an interesting
01:01:59.260
analogy. So imagine you're in this boat that you're talking about and you've got like five
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different leaks that you've identified, which one would you fill the first, like the largest one,
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like the one that's taking on the most water. That's the one that you would address first.
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And once that was addressed, then you'd move to the one that was less risky, but more risk than the
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others. And it's the same thing with your, the scenario we're talking about here. If you have no,
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like you have plenty of food, but no water. Okay. Well, water might be something you'd look
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into. If, if you have no fuel on hand, but you have some other things that are pretty squared away,
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maybe it's time to worry about the fuel. So look at the risk that you're, that you're taking by not
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covering those scenarios and fill the greatest risk first. Yeah. There is, if you're talking
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financially, I use this analogy a lot with the, with the boat, but most people's solution to their
01:02:53.700
financial problems is make more money. And so they never work on their bad habits with money. So,
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you know, getting better at getting out of debts, putting money aside for emergencies,
01:03:04.180
putting money aside for long-term, they never build up any of those habits that are necessary to be
01:03:08.860
wealthy. They just try to make more money and then wonder why they never become wealthy. And it's like
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you having those holes in your boat and all you're doing is trying to row faster.
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Because you're still going to sink. Right. No matter how fast you row. So you got to fill those
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holes. Yeah, definitely. All right, man, let's take one more. All right. Ralph Rojas. He says,
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in both of your experiences as hunters, what would you say is the best bang for your buck,
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non-resident, over-the-counter hunting trip, if stocking the freezer is a main goal?
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Colorado elk and Hawaii axis deer are of my top interest.
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Okay. So biggest bang for your buck. I think, I think the elk hunt, depending on where you go.
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And if you go with somebody, he's got a background in wilderness survival and outdoors. So he understands
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all this stuff that, that might be a good Avenue, especially because it's a large animal. So if you
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shoot a large animal, you're going to fill up that freezer a lot quicker. That's a lot more effective
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than going and shooting, you know, seven axis deer. Plus they're much harder to kill. You and I know
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that, right? Those are much harder to kill. So if it's biggest bang for your buck and you want to
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fill up the freezer, going like flying to Hawaii and trying to shoot axis deer to fill up your
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freezer. First, you're gonna have to shoot a lot of them. Second, they're very hard to shoot. Third,
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you need to bring that food back. And so that's more cost and more inefficiency. Like, I don't know
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where this idea comes from. Like hunting is, is cheaper than going to the grocery store. Like I
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haven't found that to be the experience. Um, you know, maybe a pig hunt is, is probably a high
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success rate. Like go to Texas and shoot some pigs. That's a high, high success rate. I'm sure.
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Uh, or, you know, you go to some well-managed land and you get on some, some big white tails or big
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mule deer. Um, that's what I would say. Yeah. They, I would also say, I think we're thinking
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more from a bow hunters perspective. And so if you're looking most bang for your buck, I mean,
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first of all, start with the rifle. If you're shooting with a bow. Good point. Good point.
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That's because you could go to Hawaii and you could shoot 10 and a half an hour. Uh, you know,
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that is with a rifle. If you, if you're at the right property that allows you rifle hunting and,
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and gives you, you know, a super high limit or no limit, you can get on some ranches. If you,
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if you know someone or, or, you know, somebody introduces you to somebody, they'll let you shoot
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as many as you want. And you could go in a day and, and literally shoot 20 deer. So, you know,
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if you've got a rifle with the bow, not so much, um, you know, and so, yeah, you could do that,
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but then you also, in Hawaii, you have to know someone, uh, you know, you could go on to a place
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like we went to, but they'll have, their limits are super high also, um, you know, and pay that.
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But, you know, the most bang for your buck is start asking people, you know, who live in Hawaii or
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around Hawaii or have hunted a lot, who they know, you know, maybe you get introductions there. Um,
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yeah, that's, that's what I would say is a big difference.
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Cause I remember sitting there thinking, I wish I had a rifle right now.
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We would have shot a thousand if we could in those.
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And I don't know. I, I don't, I don't like diminish anybody who rifles hunts,
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rifle hunts at all. Like it's still hard. Like you're still out there working your tail off and
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you still have to make the shot cleanly. Like things still need to go right. And you still need
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to put effort together, but it takes a lot of variables out of the equation. That's for sure.
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Cause that was a hunting question. So yeah, those are free. We do those all the time. Those in
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jujitsu, those don't even count. They're just free questions.
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Ralph Rojas asked what practical tactics or general rules do you follow to keep fear at bay?
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Creeping thoughts of bad things that can happen in your life.
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I've struggled with the challenge that anytime I work towards a meaningful goal,
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I can't relate with this question and, and I'm not trying to be dismissive of it,
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but I don't, I mean, I, I have fear. I, I don't have fear about chasing my goals. I don't,
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I don't, I don't, I, it's hard. I can't even answer the question.
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Why are you afraid? Let me say it this way. And then, and then, and say what you're going to say,
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but let me say it this way. So what's the alternative? Do nothing. I'm not okay with that.
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Like I'm not okay with that at all. So anything that I might be worried about or concerned with
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or afraid of is pale in comparison to me sitting on my ass and not chasing the things that I want
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to chase. So I don't, I don't deal with it. And I don't think I ever have. When I started Order of
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Man, I wasn't afraid of like chasing it or what if it doesn't work? What if it doesn't?
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Well, I wanted to know, I wanted to find out. And the fact that it, that it could have gone
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another way was a very real possibility and one that I contemplated. It didn't keep me from pursuing
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it. So that, that's how I would choose to look at it is instead of thinking about what if things go
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wrong? What if you stay the, where you are, like, you should be afraid of that. That to me is a
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greater fear than if things go sideways with the ventures that you're interested in.
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Terrifying. Yeah. But would you say that you would call yourself an eternal optimist?
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Do you think you have that? Like if we're given talents, if we're given gifts from God,
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would you say that's one of your gifts? Is that you're, you look at everything with optimism?
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Like everything's going to be okay. You're going to end up in a good place. No. Okay.
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I mean, maybe, but I don't look at it as being optimistic. I look at it as actually being pretty
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realistic based on my track record. So instead of optimism, I wouldn't, I know what you're saying.
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I wouldn't frame it like that. I'm, I just know I'm confident. That's what it is. I'm confident.
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So it's not about optimism. It's about confidence. Like I can make this work if I want. Of course I know
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I can because I have so many other things that have worked out. And also I know that if it doesn't work
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out, then I'll deal with that. You know, if order of man doesn't work out, if my financial planning
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practice back then didn't work out. Okay. Well then I deal with it and pivot, adjust, learn a new skill,
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tweak it, massage it a little bit, make it better. And then it gets better. But the fear has never
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been, and maybe that is a personality thing, which is, I think something you're alluding to,
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you know, maybe, maybe that's just a personality thing, but I'm just, I'm just not going to sit
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around and do nothing because I'm afraid of what could happen. I'm more afraid of doing nothing
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and what life would look like if I was just kind of mediocre or complacent with where I was in life.
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Yeah. I, I know for me, my affirmations I've had for over 20 years, it, I remind myself daily,
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I'm not going to get to the end of my life and say, I wish I would have dot, dot, dot. That's,
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that's my biggest fear is that getting to a place where I look back and say, man, I wish I would have
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tried this, done this, pushed a little harder in this or whatever it is. You know, and so that's
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a major, but then I think it's also looking for practical tactics is knowing what you want. I think
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a lot of people get scared because they don't really know what they want. And so they drift
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and you could get sidetracked by fear or worry instead of being focused on the tactics and tasks
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you need to accomplish to get what you want. You know? So I just, I don't know. And I do think it's
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a personality that I think some people just innately worry a lot more. Like my wife's a worrier and I'm
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not. Um, but you know, that it could be a personality thing too, but I think that focusing
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on what you, um, can control and what serves you now and on a daily basis is a practical tactic,
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I think, to overcome the fear part. So here's one other thought, cause you were talking about drifting
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and as you were saying it, I'm like, I don't, I don't think that's totally right. I don't,
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I actually don't mind drifting. I mean, I have a direction I want to go for sure, but I'm okay
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with just kind of exploring and taking little side paths and alternatives and just experimenting with
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them and, and seeing what, what works. But I think that comes from where I derive my sense of
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pride in the way that I show up. So this might be a pivot you can make is a lot of people. They,
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they, their sense of pride or self-worth is derived from reaching their goal and their destination and
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their accomplishments. And that's fine. I, I take pride in the things that we've done,
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but I'm more proud of the daily actions. I'm more proud of doing something, anything,
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trying new things, experimenting with new things. Somebody asked me not too long ago, they said,
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you know, if, if you would want somebody to remember you a certain way, what, what would
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you want them to remember you by? And I thought about my kids and I thought to myself, I would want
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them to remember me as somebody who, if he had an idea that he was willing to pursue it.
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Not that it always worked out, not that it always went according to plan, not that it was always
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success, but that he always, always strove towards those ideas and just let it go where it was going
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to take him. That's meaningful to me. But I also think fear is like, fear is not a bad thing.
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Everybody gets like, Oh, fear. I don't want to be afraid. Well, maybe you should be afraid.
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If you just put a period on the end of it, that's a problem. But if you put a calm on it, I'm afraid,
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period. That's a problem. I'm afraid. And because I'm afraid I'm going to do dot, dot, dot, dot, dot.
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Fear can actually drive you to make really good decisions.
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Yeah. Or it can drive you to make bad decisions or no decision at all, but you get to choose.
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So when you're faced with the fear of starting a new business, you could say, well, I'm not going
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to do that at all. Cause it's going to put me at risk or, Hey, you know what? If I start a new
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business, we're going to struggle financially for six months to a year. So I'm going to build up my
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emergency fund. We're going to cut back expenses and we're going to do that now. And that way it
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won't be as hard for us as we continue to pursue through this thing. So the fear drove you to a
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productive, healthy set of actions. If you didn't have the fear, you'd be reckless. And that would be
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a problem. Yeah. I mean, if you study the science of quote unquote motivation, fear of loss is a much
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larger motivator than pursuit of gain. As long as again, I want to reiterate. So fear of, let's say
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there is balance. Like I've had guys who, you know, maybe they've had a divorce or they've, you know,
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they've had a bad relationship. And so they're afraid of getting into another one. Obviously,
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of course, no, no one would expect you to be anything, but so a lot of men will completely
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cut themselves off from future romantic relationships. Well, that's not a healthy
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way to deal with anything. Instead, why don't you try to figure out what you did or didn't do
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that you can change or you can improve and how you can get better. So when the next woman comes into
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your life, the dynamic, the relationship is different than the first one, because you're a
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different person. It's like that old, that quote, no man steps in the same river twice for it is not
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the same river and he is not the same man. Like become a new man, learn something new, get better
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because of your scenario and don't withdraw and retreat, but move forward with a new found
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skillset and conviction that you can do it. I love that.
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All right, brother, let's wrap it up. We went a little longer today, but good question. So I wanted
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to get through them. Yeah. Hey, can I just throw out a thing? One of the questions was from man in
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the making. And, uh, let me tell you that that for me and my relationship with my boys, you know,
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Austin and Brody, right? They're 13 and 12 and every car ride now, that's what we put on. If we're going
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to school or going to baseball practice, I pick them up and like, I'm already a pretty good
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communicator with them and of course, but it's really taken everything to that next level of
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like, man, we're having more meaningful conversation. I literally, you'll ask a question
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of Brecken or he'll ask a question that he wanted to cover and I hit pause and we discuss it. And then
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we listen to your answers. It's created so much great dialogue for us. I just, I want to throw that
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out there. So the guys here, hear it. If they're not doing that already, you should be doing that
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with your sons. That's awesome. We, uh, did you listen to the one we released on? I think it was
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Friday. We we've gotten a little behind, but we released on Friday. No, Saturday, I think.
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I honestly, I'm not sure. Cause they just go. And so they're like, I'm just kind of pausing and
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listening and then they keep going. And so I don't know which one we're in or you would know,
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because we read your review on, on the podcast. No, I didn't know. So you're not. Oh, that's funny.
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Okay. Yeah. What you just said, we read on the podcast. Cause we thought that was pretty cool
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what you guys are doing. Oh, okay. Cool. I appreciate it. Yeah. Guys, that's, um,
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man in the making. So man in the making podcast. So go check that out. All right, guys,
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