Order of Man - Successful Amateur or Novice Professional

00:00:00.000 You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest. Embrace your fears and boldly chart

00:00:05.000 your own path. When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time. Every time.

00:00:10.500 You are not easily deterred or defeated. Rugged. Resilient. Strong. This is your life. This is who

00:00:17.240 you are. This is who you will become. At the end of the day, and after all is said and done,

00:00:22.800 you can call yourself a man. Gentlemen, what is going on today? My name is Ryan Michler.

00:00:27.780 I am the host and the founder of this movement and the Order of Man podcast. Hey, good news for you

00:00:33.340 guys today. We just had our highest download month ever. So it's pretty cool to see the Order of Man

00:00:41.900 movement continue to grow. And that's a testament to you and what you want to hear. And not only that,

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00:01:04.580 Guys, what can I say? The lineup of guys that we've had on over the past years and over the past month

00:01:11.800 or so has been absolutely incredible. And again, I want to just tell you that's a testament to you.

00:01:17.200 And thank you for believing in the mission to reclaim and restore masculinity, which is if you're

00:01:23.700 new, that's what this podcast is all about. I want to give you the tools and the conversations

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00:01:33.520 your communities. We've got a new book coming out in 2022 because I'm going to be calling upon you.

00:01:40.160 And we just got a lot going on. We've got a lot going on and it's all good stuff.

00:01:44.240 Uh, and one of the things that I wanted to talk with you about today is in relation to what I

00:01:48.240 just told you. And that's this pivot that I've made over the past 12 months from what I would say

00:01:53.640 successful amateur to novice professional. I'm going to talk about the mindsets and the strategies

00:02:00.160 and some things that you can do. I've got five things in particular that you can incorporate into

00:02:05.080 your own, uh, maybe it's a hobby, your business, your practice, whatever, uh, that will help you move

00:02:11.340 and make that transition from successful amateur to professional or excuse me, novice professional.

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00:03:31.000 past 12 months from successful amateur to a novice professional on, on the surface. It might not feel

00:03:37.620 like, or seem like there's a big difference between successful amateur or novice professional.

00:03:42.380 Uh, but I have made that pivot. I had made that switch, uh, because I decided to, frankly,

00:03:46.820 I decided that I don't want to play this small that I wanted to go all in that. I wanted to commit fully

00:03:52.200 that I wanted to make a bunch of money that I wanted to impact a bunch of people. And there's

00:03:56.420 some mindsets and strategies that I've employed in the past 12 months that have allowed me to do this.

00:04:00.640 So let's talk about this. And I'm going to break one down each individually. Number one,

00:04:04.860 uh, I moved from successful amateur who dabbles or a dabbles to being committed. And that's the

00:04:13.280 mindset shift that you need to first and foremost make. If you're dabbling, let me say this, by the

00:04:19.120 way, too, it's okay to be successful amateur. That's a hundred percent. Okay. There's nothing

00:04:24.260 wrong with that. You're not inferior. You're not a loser. I don't think less of you, uh, than those

00:04:31.020 who are novice professionals or even professional professionals. I don't, I don't think less of you.

00:04:37.000 It's just a matter of motives. What do you want? And if you want to take pictures of your family

00:04:42.300 and friends and do some senior pictures here and there on the weekends, uh, and you're a successful

00:04:46.960 amateur and you're good with that, all the power to you. I love it. I have no problem with that.

00:04:52.360 So let me just tell you first and foremost, if you're a successful amateur, I'm not telling you

00:04:57.340 you're inferior. I'm not telling you you're wrong. I'm just saying, if you want to make the pivot to

00:05:01.140 switch from an amateur over to a professional, then these are the things that are going to help

00:05:06.080 you. And one of the primary differences is that an amateur dabbles, you know, they do things on the

00:05:11.000 weekend, they do things here and there when things pop up and they kind of, you know, they've got another

00:05:15.200 job perhaps, or they've got other occupations and other hobbies and interests and activities. And so

00:05:20.340 when they can, they do photography or blogging or videos or painting or whatever. Uh, and again,

00:05:27.500 there's nothing wrong with that, but a professional is not a dabbler. A professional doesn't dabble in

00:05:33.860 this stuff. So it might take you some time. It's not going to happen overnight. Uh, maybe you're

00:05:40.200 taking pictures. Maybe you started a blog. Maybe you started a podcast. Maybe you've started a clothing

00:05:44.280 company. It could be an infinite number of things. And right now you're working a full-time job

00:05:49.580 somewhere else. And you're doing this on the side because that's what has to happen.

00:05:53.580 That's where I was with order of man. I had my financial planning practice and I was doing that

00:05:57.760 and I was fully invested in that. Uh, and, and, and it was good. And about four or five years ago,

00:06:03.380 I made the decision to take this thing full time because that was my decision. That was a decision

00:06:09.420 that I wanted to make. And so I sold my financial planning practice and I stopped dabbling. And instead

00:06:15.200 of dabbling in things that were interesting to me, I went all in a hundred percent. I didn't burn

00:06:20.900 boats. I didn't burn bridges. None of this like alpha talk that a lot of guys talk about. Uh, I did

00:06:26.100 this very strategically, but I became committed. And the question is, if you want to become a novice

00:06:31.800 professional, are you committed or are you dabbling period bottom line? We can get into details from

00:06:38.340 there, but ask yourself, honestly, are you a dabbler? This sounds interesting. I'll try that.

00:06:44.560 That sounds interesting. I'll try that. Oh, I'll do this two days a week and I'll do this three days

00:06:48.500 a week. Or are you fully committed? Are you all in? Have you invested? Have you put money towards

00:06:54.860 this thing? Have you, have you sold other businesses? Have you gone all in? That's a mindset

00:06:59.220 shift and only you can determine what that is. But once you do, you're going to make that pivot and

00:07:04.460 that move from amateur to professional. Number two, uh, successful amateurs and just amateurs in

00:07:10.960 general, they do things for fun. And the minute that it loses its fun or its appeal or its, its

00:07:16.140 enjoyment, then they throw in the towel. So you might be doing something like painting or, or,

00:07:22.580 or taking photography, uh, or some sort of artistic endeavor or playing music or having a blog or having

00:07:30.920 this or having that or build, building something. Maybe you're really good with hand, your hands and

00:07:35.340 you're good with, uh, working with wood. Okay. That's fun. That's enjoyable. And again, guys,

00:07:41.780 there's nothing wrong with it. I remember years and years ago, I built this standing garden box for,

00:07:48.260 for my wife. She said, I want this garden box. Here's something I saw on Pinterest. And can you make

00:07:52.680 this? And I said, well, yeah, let me try. And so I made this and I actually enjoyed the process.

00:07:57.080 I made this garden box and it wasn't very big and I made it for, and she was happy and I was happy.

00:08:01.860 And she was growing her garden, part of her garden out of it. And there was a lot of fulfillment and

00:08:06.820 joy and satisfaction and happiness in this. And then I had a neighbor come to me and I, and she

00:08:11.180 said, Hey, uh, I saw that you, you, you built that garden box. Can you build one for me? And I politely

00:08:16.740 declined because I didn't want to make it a job. Like I didn't want to get paid for it because that

00:08:22.620 would have zapped the fun from it. The same thing with boat building. A lot of you guys know,

00:08:27.080 my son and I have been building a boat. I don't build boats professionally. I do it with my son

00:08:33.100 because it's enjoyable. It's fun. If there's no motive outside of that, I don't have any plans

00:08:38.500 to make money. I don't have plans to sell the boat. I don't have plans to add a bunch of value

00:08:43.060 to other people's lives. I just like the process of boat building. I like the process of spending

00:08:48.660 time with my kid and having lessons and being able to communicate and laugh and joke and tease and

00:08:53.440 play with each other. That, that, and that's, that's an amateur. I'm an amateur in boat building

00:09:00.040 and I'm okay with that. It's not bad. I'm completely okay with that. But on the other hand,

00:09:05.200 if I wanted to become a professional, okay, well now I got to move from the making or excuse me,

00:09:11.560 having fun realm to the making money realm. And that's a very big leap guys. A lot of people,

00:09:17.040 I talked to somebody in my own personal life just in the last couple of days, uh, who had a very hard

00:09:22.780 time shifting their mindset from, I just want to help people to, I want to make money guys,

00:09:29.060 professionals make money. And by the way, it isn't at odds with helping people just because you're

00:09:35.080 making money. Doesn't mean you're not helping people. You are, you are, we've helped millions

00:09:40.740 and millions of men across the planet. And also I make a very lucrative living. That's actually the

00:09:46.480 beauty of what I do is that I can make a great income. I can provide for my family and we can

00:09:51.700 have food and a house over our head and we can have experiences. And also I can serve people.

00:09:59.760 So wrap your head around that guys. And if you want to make the transition, uh, to a professional,

00:10:05.840 you got to sell something. If I wanted to be a professional boat builder, you know,

00:10:10.780 when I become a professional boat builder, when I sell my first boat, that's it.

00:10:15.560 Like when I make a boat and I sell it for however much it sells for, I sell it. That's when I become

00:10:21.460 a professional because professionals make money. And if you aren't making money yet in your podcast

00:10:27.760 or your photography business or your blog business, or your boat building business, or your, your,

00:10:33.080 your carpentry business or whatever, then you're just an amateur. And I say, just again, it's not just

00:10:39.800 if it's by design. It's okay. If you're like, you know, Ryan, I just like to build furniture on the

00:10:45.140 weekends. Cool. All the power to you. You're just an, you're an amateur and that's fine. That's a

00:10:51.800 great, but if you're listening to this podcast and I know a lot of you guys are because you sent me

00:10:56.540 messages about a post I made on Instagram at Ryan Mickler, by the way. And you said, Ryan, can you

00:11:01.220 explain to me some of the steps you made that transitioned you from successful amateur to novice

00:11:06.020 professional? This is what I did. I sold something in 2015, the end of 2015. I sold our first

00:11:17.840 membership to the iron council. It was a hundred bucks. It was a 12 week course. I sold our first

00:11:23.860 membership. And then I sold 11 more in addition to that. And about eight weeks into this 12 week

00:11:28.840 course, a bunch of guys are like, what's next? What's next? What do we do? What, what, where do we

00:11:32.600 go from here? And I opened up and now we have over 900 members of the iron council, but that's

00:11:38.640 because I decided at some point five years ago, almost six, well, closer to six years. Now I made

00:11:45.120 the pivot from amateur, just dabbling in this thing to now becoming a professional, which means I sell

00:11:52.120 something. I give you value, which is the iron council or hat or a shirt or a product or whatever

00:11:59.060 information, coaching, event, et cetera, an experience. And then you in exchange pay me for that. That's

00:12:05.800 what makes a professional a professional. Number three, organic versus strategic. A lot of amateurs

00:12:15.060 will actually make, have businesses. They'll make a little money. They'll have a little cash. They'll

00:12:21.580 have an influx of cash. People will pay them periodically. An amateur can do that. So I just told you that

00:12:27.340 you go professional when you make money only if you're deliberate. It isn't a certain amount of

00:12:32.980 money. There's no, there's no metric or benchmark for it. It's only if you're deliberate because look,

00:12:37.900 I mean, I could do a thousand different things, an infinite number of things where I can make a few

00:12:41.500 dollars here and there. And what I've noticed that amateurs will do is they'll gradually allow

00:12:46.520 their business to grow or their project or their hobby to grow organically. And again, let me reiterate,

00:12:52.880 there's nothing wrong with that if that's your motive. But if your motive is to make this thing

00:12:59.200 big, then you need to start being a little bit more strategic about it. All right. How are you

00:13:04.660 going to grow the business? How are you going to reach new people? What's your messaging going to be?

00:13:08.520 What's your marketing going to be? How are you going to pick up new clientele? What's the process

00:13:13.500 that you're going to go through? And what is it that you're going to sell? What is your offering?

00:13:17.620 What is your unique value proposition for these individuals? It's very strategic. It's deliberate.

00:13:25.020 It's intentional. I've seen a lot of successful amateurs who grow businesses and they make some

00:13:34.160 money here and there, and then they fade out. They fizzle out because they stumbled across something

00:13:39.860 that worked out really, really well, but they never made the pivot from just organic growth,

00:13:47.100 which might be that one of your videos one day randomly goes viral. Okay. That wasn't strategic.

00:13:52.420 It randomly happened. Nothing wrong with it. It's great. I'll take it. But unless you can learn to

00:13:58.080 elevate it to the strategic level, you're not going to be able to capitalize on it. If one of my videos

00:14:03.180 or podcasts goes viral, for example, and it reaches, let's say 2 million people, but I don't have any

00:14:10.600 system in place for capturing their information, capturing their data, getting them to buy a shirt

00:14:16.640 or a hat, getting them to sign up for the iron council, getting them to come to one of our events,

00:14:21.900 then I'm just being amateur. I'm just dabbling. And it's just organic growth and whatever happens,

00:14:28.700 happens. And I've had, I I've talked with very successful people, friends, people in my circles

00:14:33.540 who are organic growth and, and they've got other businesses and they've got other jobs and I wish

00:14:40.640 them all the best. They're just not ready to take it to the next level. When you are, you're going to

00:14:45.460 start being more strategic about it. So if you're thinking to yourself, well, Ryan, I want to take

00:14:49.180 this photography business to the next level, then you have to sit down and you have to spend time

00:14:53.880 thinking about what is your messaging? What is your branding? What is your logo? What is your company

00:14:58.860 name? Who's going to help you with your taxes? How are you going to grow your business? How much

00:15:03.800 does it cost to get a new client? Once you get a new client, what's the process they go through in

00:15:08.100 order to become onboarded as a client? This is what professionals do. They start thinking about

00:15:14.020 strategically what they need to do to move somebody from they're not familiar with you at all to now

00:15:20.900 they're a ravid fan and, and customer fan is not enough customer, meaning they're paying you for

00:15:29.460 some sort of service, good or product strategic versus organic. Number four, amateurs are looking

00:15:37.860 for minimal investment versus professionals who are looking for maximum investment. So let's go back to

00:15:45.060 the photography business. An amateur, what they would say is I want the best camera, but I want

00:15:51.340 to pay as little as possible. That's what an amateur is going to do. I want the very best camera that

00:15:57.140 money can buy, which means like, I don't want to spend as much as I have to. And I'm trying to find

00:16:03.020 and wrestle with, okay, like what is good, what is valuable versus what is cost effective. Okay.

00:16:10.160 A professional is looking for maximum investment. So here's the clientele I want to reach. Here's the

00:16:16.780 type of people, here's the type of shots I want to take. Here's my, uh, my subject matter, whether

00:16:22.340 it's landscape or animal life or people or weddings or back to school pictures or graduation pictures or

00:16:30.580 family pictures or whatever. Okay. Now how can I invest as much as I possibly can in order to maximize

00:16:39.480 this business? So the other day, my wife and I were having a conversation because we just got

00:16:44.200 wrapped up with, uh, our legacy event, which is a father, son event. And we've got on the pack of

00:16:51.360 that. We've got our main event, which is an event for a hundred men coming to Maine, our property here

00:16:56.340 in Maine. And we're going to enjoy each other's company and have a great time. And, uh, there's,

00:17:02.100 there's these Dutch ovens that we want. If you guys are familiar with Dutch ovens, uh, it's a cast iron

00:17:07.660 oven that you cook on coals. You put coals under, you put coals on top. And my brother-in-law and my

00:17:13.940 father-in-law who were amazing at this form of cooking are going to come out and cook meatloaf

00:17:18.860 for us. They're going to cook peach, peach cobbler for us. Uh, and so my brother-in-law said, Hey,

00:17:24.060 you know, like, if you want us to come out, we will, you're going to have to pay for us to come out.

00:17:27.400 We're going to cover their flights. I'm going to kick them a little money because they're investing

00:17:30.740 their time with me. Uh, and then you need to buy this. And those Dutch ovens, I want to say we just bought

00:17:36.420 them and it ended up being like 1800 or $2,000. And my wife said, Hey, I found the Dutch ovens.

00:17:42.120 Here's how much all of them are going to cost. Here's what we need. Six years ago, I would have

00:17:45.640 said, well, you know, can we get by with half of it? Uh, can we, can we look at another brand that

00:17:50.560 maybe isn't as good, but we'll produce the same result. That's what an amateur would say.

00:17:55.960 Okay. But a professional would say, do it. No question, no hesitation. And because I made the pivot

00:18:02.960 from amateur to professional, when my wife told me how much it would be, I said, do it. And she

00:18:08.340 said, well, I don't know. That's a lot of money. And I said, well, it's a lot of money just like

00:18:12.120 to pay. But if you figure on one event based on what we got, cause I did the math because I'm a

00:18:18.460 professional. So I actually look at this stuff. I said, that's like 16 bucks a person. These guys

00:18:22.760 are paying 500 bucks to come out here. That's a drop in the bucket. And I said, and we use those same

00:18:27.660 Dutch ovens over a 10 different events. It's like a dollar 60 per person per event. That's a,

00:18:36.160 that's, that's, that's a no brainer. We should do that. And so you might have to pay more upfront,

00:18:41.900 but you start looking at it strategically to go back to my last point. And you look at it on a

00:18:47.540 bigger scale. And now you're thinking, Hey, if I can spend a dollar 60 per person and it's going to

00:18:54.700 yield $3 or $5 or $10 or a hundred dollars, how often would you do that? Well, you do that forever,

00:19:01.540 right? You would do that as much as, as many, uh, dollar sixties as you had, right? That that's

00:19:09.960 what, that's how a professional thinks a novice is like, Oh man, I don't know. Like it's a lot.

00:19:15.000 I got to pay $1,600 for this. And I don't know if that's going to be good. And is it going to make

00:19:20.380 any money? And, uh, can we do it for, for $1,200? Maybe you could, but it would be inferior to what

00:19:27.600 you can do for investing maximum. So if you're an amateur, you're going to look for skimping.

00:19:35.100 You're going to look for cost reduction, cost savings. And that is your biggest motivating

00:19:41.220 factor. Like how can you do it the cheapest, but a professional is how can I add the most value?

00:19:47.820 So I'm still looking for cost savings, but value is the metric, right? So I, I, if I'm going to spend

00:19:55.320 1600 bucks, I need to make sure that I'm going to get at least that 1600 bucks. It's, it's like the

00:20:01.180 difference between price and cost. If you're watching this video on YouTube, which you can do

00:20:05.820 our order of man, uh, youtube.com slash order of man. So I've got this pen right here. Okay. And this pen,

00:20:13.200 maybe it costs me 50 cents for this pen. Okay. Well, the, the price tag, the price of this pen

00:20:21.340 is 50 cents. That's the price, but the cost is different. There's a difference between price

00:20:29.380 and cost. The price is 50 cents. But if I use this to write the draft of my new book coming out next year

00:20:36.280 and it yields a hundred, two hundred, $500,000, the price tag was 50 cents, but the cost of this pen

00:20:47.980 was, was actually negative, right? Like I made money. This was not just a pen that cost me 50 cents.

00:20:56.740 This was an investment in my future. And that's how professionals look at it. When I buy a computer

00:21:03.500 or I buy a microphone or I buy a camera or I invest in traveling to somebody else to have them on the

00:21:10.540 podcast. Yeah. There's a price tag of getting the airline ticket, but the cost is in my favor. I can

00:21:17.120 go visit Jesse Itzler or Jason Wilson, uh, or Madison Cawthorne or Dan Crenshaw. These men that I've had

00:21:25.480 on the podcast and yeah, there's a price tag for sure, but the cost is significantly lower because I'm

00:21:32.820 going to yield a better return. That's how professionals view it. Okay. And then the fifth

00:21:37.140 point right here is that I believe that being an amateur is more of a self-serving motive.

00:21:46.820 And, and again, I'm not saying this is bad, but if you think to yourself, well, Ryan, you know,

00:21:50.580 I just like to dabble and take pictures on the weekend. Think about even that phrase. I like to,

00:21:55.980 I just like to do it. It's just, it's just kind of fun. Those are all selfish driven motives.

00:22:00.500 They're not bad. And it's okay at times to be selfish. Like I like building a canoe.

00:22:07.040 Maybe you like taking pictures. Maybe you like playing the guitar. Maybe you like the working

00:22:12.000 with wood. Maybe you like building websites. There's things that you like, and it's okay to

00:22:18.180 like those things, but it's self-serving. I like doing this. Therefore I do it. I feel good. It makes

00:22:22.700 me happy. And that's why I do it. That's what an amateur would say. And it's okay. But a professional,

00:22:28.760 I think comes from the perspective of serving others. Yeah. I still want to like what I do.

00:22:34.980 So with order of man, I like doing this. I like podcasting. I like talking with people,

00:22:39.220 but also I want to make sure people are being served.

00:22:45.140 I want to make sure that I'm adding value to other people's lives. I want to see men lead and thrive

00:22:52.620 and inspire their family and their business members and their community and their neighbors.

00:22:58.740 And so instead of being a self-serving approach, which isn't always bad, it has a negative

00:23:06.000 connotation, but it isn't always bad. When you become a professional, you start moving into the

00:23:10.640 service of others. Right. When that, when that neighbor of mine reached out and said, Hey,

00:23:16.960 Ryan, can you make this for me? This, this, uh, grow box for my vegetables. And I said, no,

00:23:23.080 it's because I enjoy doing it for myself. And I didn't want to make it about other people.

00:23:29.340 I just wanted to be about myself. And again, there's times where that's okay.

00:23:34.240 If I would have said, yeah, I would love to do that. And, um, you know, here's how much the

00:23:38.860 material costs. Here's how much I time it costs for me to do it. So, you know, it's going to be a

00:23:44.040 thousand bucks or whatever. And I would have said that then it moves into serving other people.

00:23:48.600 Like I want her to win. I want her to have something. Uh, I want to build her home. I

00:23:53.360 want to take their wedding pictures. Uh, I want to build their website. I want to do this consulting

00:23:59.080 and it becomes about serving other people. Now, granted it's still could be enjoyable to you.

00:24:05.160 They're not mutually exclusive, but the primary motivating factor is that you want to serve other

00:24:10.240 people. That's when you move from amateur to not, uh, excuse me, to professional.

00:24:17.320 So that's it guys. I know those are broad generalities, but I can't talk to you guys

00:24:24.100 about the specifics, the intricacies or the nuances, because I don't know what it is you're

00:24:28.740 trying to do. But I think if you take these five tips and these five points, and you really ask

00:24:35.320 yourself, you know, get out a piece of paper and write these down and ask yourself, honestly,

00:24:39.320 where do you fall and what's important to you and what do you value? What do you want

00:24:42.900 to accomplish? Then you're going to see whether or not you want to stay in the amateur realm,

00:24:46.600 which is completely acceptable. If that's what you're after, or you might say, no, Ryan,

00:24:50.920 I'm going to turn this into a business. I want to become a professional. I want to make lots of

00:24:55.440 money. I want to serve my family. I want to serve my neighbors. I want to serve my clients.

00:24:59.220 Then this is what you would do. Let's recap. Number one, either you're going to dabble as an

00:25:03.220 amateur or you're fully committed. You're all into this thing. That's a mindset shift.

00:25:07.920 Number two, are you doing this for fun? And if it's just for fun and enjoyment,

00:25:12.560 be an amateur. There's things I'm going to have. I'm an amateur boat builder. I'm not a professional

00:25:16.780 because I don't sell them. I'm an amateur. And I like that. I'm okay with that. I only do it because

00:25:22.580 it's fun. If it wasn't fun, I wouldn't do it. That's it. Versus are you making money? That's what

00:25:29.560 a professional would do. Am I making money? Am I exchanging value? We can have that value money

00:25:34.780 conversation down the road. Number three, is it organic growth versus strategic growth? Are you

00:25:40.480 just letting things happen willy-nilly or are you very deliberate and intentional about the growth

00:25:44.540 that you're experiencing? Because professionals are deliberate and intentional. Number four,

00:25:50.060 are you trying to be minimally invested in this? What can I get away with? Or are you maximum invested?

00:25:56.320 How much can I maximum invest into this thing? Because I know I'm going to get a return on it.

00:26:00.700 And then number five, is it self-serving? That's amateur. And again, it has a negative

00:26:06.940 connotation, self-serving. It's not negative. When I build boats, it's self-serving. I want to do it

00:26:13.560 for me and my son, period, bottom line. I don't want to sell them. That's all I'm interested in right

00:26:19.160 now. It's like, we have a good time doing it. And so it's self-serving versus a professional who then

00:26:24.880 turns into serving others. How can I add to other people's lives? How can I contribute?

00:26:30.160 What can I sell to other people to solve their problems? It's outward. It's serving others

00:26:34.900 versus serving yourself. Okay. All right, guys. That gives you some insight. That gives you some

00:26:39.860 input. Let me know what you think. If you have some agreements, some disagreements, let me know.

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00:26:54.540 et cetera, et cetera. Keep doing that. Leave the ratings, reviews. Very, very important.

00:26:58.800 And if you feel so inclined, learn to move from a successful amateur to a novice professional.

00:27:06.500 All right, guys, that's all I've got for you today. We'll be back next week. Until then,

00:27:10.300 go out there, take action, and become the man you are meant to be.

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