Order of Man - August 12, 2020


The Balance Between Respecting and Defying Authority, Knowing When to Quit, and Learning From Others' Mistakes ｜ ASK ME ANYTHING


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In this episode, Ryan answers a question from a listener about how to get back on track after being off track for a long period of time and what to do about it. He also discusses the benefits of going to the gym after a break.

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00:00:00.000 You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest, embrace your fears, and boldly chart
00:00:04.980 your own path. When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time, every time.
00:00:10.420 You are not easily deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient, strong. This is your life. This is who
00:00:17.220 you are. This is who you will become. At the end of the day, and after all is said and done,
00:00:22.780 you can call yourself a man. Gentlemen, what is going on today? My name is Ryan Michler,
00:00:27.660 and I am the host and the founder of this podcast and the Order of Man movement. I want to welcome
00:00:32.520 you back. We're going to do an Ask Me Anything today. This one's obviously a little different
00:00:37.560 because if you've been listening for any amount of time, you know that typically I have my co-host
00:00:41.680 Kip Sorensen join us, but he is unavailable today. So you're getting me solo. Got a lot of good
00:00:50.340 questions. Fortunately, Kip's well-prepared and he sent me these questions ahead of time and I'm
00:00:57.140 going to try to get through as many as I can. There's a lot of questions here, but my goal is
00:01:01.180 to give you as many valid answers as I can. I will let you be the judge of whether or not these things
00:01:07.180 are valid. Before we get into this, I do just want to mention a couple of things. Number one,
00:01:12.860 we've got our free course called Battle Ready. Actually, it's called 30 Days to Battle Ready.
00:01:17.560 30 Days to Battle Ready. When you sign up, you're going to get a series of emails over a 30-day period
00:01:23.720 that are going to give you information into the four phases that you need to incorporate
00:01:31.040 into your planning process so that you can accomplish more in your business, in your personal
00:01:36.120 life, your fitness, your finances, whatever endeavors that you are on currently. I want to help you
00:01:42.860 maximize the time it takes to get there. Actually, I should say minimize the time it takes to get there
00:01:49.440 and maximize your results. So if you're interested in that, again, it's a free 30-day email course.
00:01:56.760 You can check it out at orderaman.com slash battle ready. I apologize. Been a little congested over the
00:02:04.520 past couple of weeks. So just working through that. It's not COVID. All right. You don't have to worry
00:02:08.520 about that with me right now. Just a little congestion. That's all it is. Anyways, these questions
00:02:13.800 today come from the Facebook group, which if you are interested, you can check out at orderaman at
00:02:18.360 facebook.com slash groups slash order of man. I've got so many links at this point. Sometimes it's a
00:02:25.440 little tricky to keep them all straight, but you can check out the Facebook group at facebook.com
00:02:28.820 slash groups slash order of man. All right, guys, let's get into it. So the first question is from
00:02:35.860 Kylan Flynn. He says, beginner's guide question mark. So you started getting things in order next few
00:02:43.200 steps, dot, dot, dot. This is actually a pretty common question. Where do I start? Essentially,
00:02:48.780 that's what this question is asking. You know, you guys are trying to improve. You're trying to get back
00:02:53.220 on track. Maybe you've deviated for a little bit or for years or longer potentially. And so now you're
00:02:59.520 trying to get back on track. Maybe you never were on track. So where do you start? That's the question.
00:03:04.340 Here's the answer. It does not matter. It doesn't matter. I personally, if it's been a long time or
00:03:11.240 you've never been on track, I would start with the lowest hanging fruit. I'd tell guys, go to the gym.
00:03:15.820 If you're not going to the gym, if you're not getting strong, if you're not getting lean,
00:03:20.100 if you're not training martial arts, if you're not doing some of these things,
00:03:22.980 then I think you're missing a powerful opportunity. The reason I think that's the lowest hanging fruit
00:03:29.020 is because it's easy to go to the gym. It's easy to get your training in. You can see results almost
00:03:36.000 overnight. I mean, if you, if you went and you trained for the next, let's say for the rest of
00:03:42.220 this week and you ate clean and you slept well, and you did everything you needed to do, you could
00:03:48.040 start experiencing results this week. It would be that quick. And that's why I think it's important.
00:03:53.480 If you're trying to get back on track after being off track for a very long time, you want to build up
00:03:58.080 those wins as quickly as possible. So going to the gym is going to help you build up those wins as
00:04:03.000 quickly as possible. But if it's not at the gym, just start planning out your day.
00:04:07.840 Very simply, just, just get out a planner. If you're watching this on YouTube, you saw me lean
00:04:13.280 over cause I had to grab mine, but mine is always right here within arm's reach. I've got my daily
00:04:17.700 planner out. This is our battle planner that you can check out in the store. If you're interested,
00:04:21.400 by the way, we have a new kids battle planner available, which you should certainly check out as
00:04:25.400 well. Now that's in the store, store.orderman.com. But guys, I plan out every single day.
00:04:30.780 If you're not planning out your day, what the hell are you doing with your day?
00:04:35.420 Maybe it goes well, maybe it doesn't go so well, but how do you know? How do you quantify it? How
00:04:39.640 do you track it? How do you measure it? In fact, the very first page of this battle planner
00:04:45.780 is a quote from Carl Pearson. It says that which is measured improves.
00:04:52.480 So if you want to improve in some facet of your life, then you've got to get out a piece of paper
00:04:56.840 or a computer program or an app, whatever it looks like. And you've got to start documenting.
00:05:04.520 If you're not documenting, you don't know if what you're doing is working or not working or moving
00:05:08.460 you closer to your goal. You don't even know what your goals are. I mean, they might be up here
00:05:12.400 bouncing around in your brain, but if you haven't documented them in an app or a program or a computer
00:05:16.840 software or on a piece of paper, all you really have is dreams. We're not about dreams here. We're
00:05:24.360 about turning those dreams into reality. So the first step is to document what those are and
00:05:28.560 having a plan every single morning will help institute that will help make those dreams a
00:05:35.080 reality. So start in the gym, start your daily planning or start wherever the lowest hanging
00:05:41.600 fruit is. That's it. Because guys, we don't make decisions in a vacuum. So if you improve in one
00:05:46.140 facet of your life, you're naturally and inevitably going to improve in other facets of your life.
00:05:49.920 If you dial in your fitness, you're going to be a better worker. If you dial in your systems at
00:05:55.220 work, you're going to have a better love life. If you dial in your intimacy and your love life with
00:06:00.380 your wife, work's going to be more efficient. It's all interdependent. There's no decisions in 0.99
00:06:06.160 vacuums. So wherever you decide to improve, the better off you're going to be. I would start in the
00:06:11.120 gym and, or probably not, or, and I would say, and plan your day. All right. Number two, Nathan
00:06:16.760 Gabbard. What is the most impactful quote you ever heard? And what quote would you like to be
00:06:22.600 remembered by? Well, the most impactful quote, I like quotes and there's a lot of quotes that come
00:06:29.040 to mind, but the one that sticks out for me right now, and I've said this to you guys before is a
00:06:33.040 quote by John Eldridge. If you don't know who he is, you definitely need to check him out. He's been
00:06:37.180 on the podcast. He is the author of a book called wild at heart, which frankly changed my life. And
00:06:42.600 anytime I put a book list out there for men to read wild at heart is always, always included in
00:06:48.340 that list. It transformed the way I think about masculinity and my role in society as a husband
00:06:54.440 and a father and just a man in general. And the quote is this deep in his heart. Every man longs
00:07:00.520 for a battle to fight an adventure to live and a beauty to rescue. And I don't think enough men are
00:07:07.580 getting any of those a battle to fight an adventure to live and a beauty to rescue a battle to fight.
00:07:14.060 I mean, our lives are so docile and easy. Like what is it that we have to fight about now? I know
00:07:18.060 there's a lot of civil unrest and that's because there isn't anything worthy to fight about. So we
00:07:22.580 make up dumb shit to fret over that doesn't really exist. But what if you engaged in a real battle, 0.99
00:07:28.540 for example, with an order of men, my battle is to reclaim and restore masculinity. That's a battle
00:07:33.240 I'm deeply committed to. It's a hill I'm willing to die on. And I'm engaged in, in, in, and have
00:07:38.840 enthusiasm because of it. An adventure to live. When's the last time you went on an adventure?
00:07:43.960 When the, when is the last time you took any level of risk to your, to your personal safety or your
00:07:49.460 personal wellbeing? I'm not saying go out there and be reckless, but man, generally men are to go out
00:07:54.940 and experience life and take risks and go on adventures and push the bounds of what we previously
00:08:01.060 thought possible. That might be within your business. It might be physically some sort of
00:08:05.520 physical challenge, like running a marathon or doing a triathlon. Like my friend, a friend,
00:08:09.400 Tanner Guzzi just completed. Um, whatever, whatever that looks like, what, what is your adventure?
00:08:15.400 What adventure are you living in a beauty to rescue? You know, what are, are, is the woman you're 0.87
00:08:21.100 attracted to? Is she lovely? Is she a beauty? I'm not talking about just physical beauty. Although
00:08:26.260 that's also important. I've heard people say that, you know, beauty, outer beauty doesn't matter.
00:08:32.420 Well, that's, that's BS. We all, we all know that matters. I'm not saying it's the only factor,
00:08:38.040 but it's certainly a consideration. Like you want to be physically attracted to, to the woman that
00:08:43.720 you're with, but is she lovely? Is she, is she beautiful? Are you, are you fostering that in her?
00:08:50.940 And I'm not saying rescue a beauty to rescue. And I don't think John Eldridge is saying this,
00:08:54.640 it's a beauty to rescue you, like some sort of damsel in distress. That's not what I'm referring
00:08:58.240 to, but are you partnered with a woman? Are you banded with her? Are you, are you on the same
00:09:03.660 mission? Are you working towards a common objective? Are you helping her with your masculinity
00:09:10.580 in a way that she can't bring to the table on her own and vice versa, by the way, all right,
00:09:16.420 there's, there's a lot of feminine characteristics that my wife possesses that I would not bring to the 1.00
00:09:20.620 equation on my own. And that's the beauty of this symbiotic relationship. She needs me because
00:09:27.040 of what I bring to the table. I need her because of what she brings to the table. And we're, we're
00:09:32.160 better off because of it, right? We're all better off because of it. So deep in his heart, every man
00:09:38.720 longs for a battle to fight, an adventure to live and a beauty to rescue. Uh, what is the quote I would
00:09:44.380 like to be remembered by? Um, I don't know. I have, I haven't like thought of that. There's a
00:09:50.360 quote out there. Uh, generally I would just like people to think when they think of me to, to think,
00:09:56.400 you know, Ryan tried everything that he wanted to. That's it. If I had a thought in my mind,
00:10:03.460 no matter how crazy, no matter how wild that I was actually willing to go out there to try it,
00:10:08.840 to see if it'd work and to put it into practice, to put it into play, to put it on the table and see
00:10:13.560 what came of it. I'm not suggesting it's always going to work out. In fact, I don't need to be
00:10:17.720 known for everything worked in his favor, but I would like to be known for a gentleman and a man
00:10:23.320 who tried everything that he wanted to. And he was willing to take the risk. He's willing to go
00:10:29.740 on the adventures. Just like that quote from John Aldridge. All right. Dallin Edwards, excuse me.
00:10:36.200 Sorry about the congestion guys. Again, we've got to work through it. I got to work through it. You
00:10:39.840 might have to work through it too. And listening to me, Dallin says, how do you know when it's time
00:10:45.020 to quit something versus sticking to it? Look, the very easy answer on this is when it's no longer
00:10:50.280 interesting to you. That's it. Now notice I didn't say when it's, when it's no longer hard or it's fun.
00:11:01.540 None of that. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying if it does not, it's not interesting to you.
00:11:06.040 If it no longer resonates with you, then at that point, it might be time to reconsider something
00:11:11.740 else. I'll give you an example in my financial planning practice, which I was in the financial
00:11:16.240 planning field for roughly, uh, 10 years, a little less than 10 years. And I got to the point where it
00:11:23.000 was just no longer interesting. My clients would call me and they would ask to, you know, change their
00:11:29.080 portfolio or to contribute more money to their investments or whatever it is they were after.
00:11:33.720 And I would see the number pop up on my phone and I would just dread it. And I'm like, Oh,
00:11:39.980 I don't want to do this. And it wasn't because I didn't appreciate those people. It wasn't because
00:11:45.140 I didn't like them. Of course I did. I had relationships with relationships with all my
00:11:49.120 clients. It was just, I was no longer interested. So Dallin used this as a verbiage quit something.
00:11:56.300 That's a hard word to use. Although it's true. I think it's accurate. So I quit, right? I pivoted,
00:12:01.760 I changed. So I stopped doing that. So I think it's an accurate word, but I don't think it paints
00:12:07.400 the picture exactly correct. Because we look at quit as failure. Like I quit because it was too
00:12:13.740 hard. I quit because I couldn't hack it. Well, that's not the case. It wasn't too hard. And I
00:12:20.340 certainly could hack it. I had a very successful financial planning practice and it continued to
00:12:24.200 grow exponentially year in and year out. So it wasn't that I couldn't hack it. It was that it was no
00:12:29.640 longer interesting to me. So when do you consider quitting versus sticking to it? If it's still
00:12:35.060 interesting to you, you need to stick with it. If it still engages your mind, your body, your soul,
00:12:40.380 your being, then you need to stick with it. And if it's hard, that's okay. That's not a factor.
00:12:45.760 What's a factor. It's a consideration. You've got to figure out ways to get past it,
00:12:48.860 but it's not certainly a reason to quit. But if you're no longer interested, then you got to drive on.
00:12:54.860 Uh, Dallin also says, for example, like moving on from an idea or maybe changing up a training
00:13:00.660 routine or banning, abandoning a pursuit. Yeah. Same thing. If you're no longer interested in it,
00:13:05.460 then drive on, or you talk about training routine, for example, if it's not producing the results that
00:13:10.700 you're after and you got to give it time, right? Things take time. But if you've tried our training
00:13:15.260 routine for 90 days and you're not experiencing the results or you don't like it, or you're deflated
00:13:19.740 because you don't enjoy the training regimen. Yeah. You probably ought to consider changing
00:13:24.900 things around. All right. Jaden black. He says, what are some effective methods you have used to
00:13:30.980 teach your sons to protect their sisters? Uh, my boy, five years old hits his sister on a daily basis.
00:13:36.020 You know, I think five years old is pretty young. I'm not saying you can't teach some of these things.
00:13:40.120 Uh, but yeah, I don't think having a five-year-old boy who's hitting a sister on a daily basis.
00:13:45.880 It sounds like you just have those two. I don't think that's abnormal. I don't, I really don't
00:13:51.440 think you have anything to worry about here. My four-year-old hits his siblings. His 12-year-old
00:13:56.000 is nine-year-old, a six-year-old sibling all the time. And although we don't condone him hitting
00:14:01.680 and we talk with him about that and there's discipline in place, it is an abnormal behavior.
00:14:07.360 So we need to understand that first. You've got a five-year-old son. He's aggressive.
00:14:11.680 He likes to wrestle. He likes to fight. He likes to be physical. I don't think that's weird. In fact,
00:14:17.140 I think that should be encouraged, not him hitting his sister, but him using his physicality
00:14:21.440 and his aggression in a positive way is what most of society will do and say is, well, you know,
00:14:28.640 he's got ADHD and he's got some aggression issues and, and, and we've got to medicate him. Well,
00:14:34.780 hold up. Like, let's see if we can burn it out of him first. Cause I think that's what boys need.
00:14:40.700 So I would consider getting involved in some sort of martial arts, whether that's karate.
00:14:45.460 My mom got me involved in karate when I was young. I want to say I was not that young. I guess I was
00:14:50.800 maybe 10, 11, 12 years old, somewhere in there, uh, got me involved in Kenpo karate, uh, got me
00:14:57.620 involved in competitive sports, football, namely. And then I went into wrestling and baseball. And,
00:15:02.480 uh, these were all very good outlets for me to be able to, to exercise some physicality and
00:15:09.340 aggression, which I did have, by the way, a lot of aggression when I wasn't playing sports,
00:15:13.900 man, it was really, really hard for me. And I was very aggressive verbally, physically
00:15:19.220 aggressive. I got into fights and got into trouble when I wasn't playing competitive sports.
00:15:25.360 So you might have a son who's driven by that physicality. That's, there's nothing wrong with
00:15:29.800 that. You just need to tap into that and then teach them to harness it, teach them to use it for
00:15:34.800 constructive outcomes. Now at five years old, it's going to be difficult to have some of these
00:15:38.080 conversations, but I would talk with him about using that skillset, using the mindset, using that
00:15:45.580 personality. And all of them can be used for productive outcomes, but using them in a positive
00:15:50.260 and constructive way, as opposed to a destructive way. So if he needs to hit something cool, buy him
00:15:56.300 a punching bag. If he wants to rough house and wrestle rather than taking it out on other people,
00:16:02.080 namely a sister, have them do that with you so that you can play and you can bond and you can have
00:16:07.680 some physicality. I've actually been thinking about a lot about that. I think there's something to be
00:16:11.720 said for men being physical with each other. And I know that sounds really weird. I know when you
00:16:16.440 hear that, you're like, yeah, that's, that sounds strange. Like, I don't know about that. And I'm not
00:16:22.160 saying sexual, obviously some people would probably read it that way because they're always looking for
00:16:27.100 something to be wrong. But I think there's, I think there's something to be said for men being
00:16:33.220 physical with each other, touching each other in a physical and resisting strong, pitting yourself
00:16:39.720 against another individual way. I think there's something to be said for that for men. And yet we
00:16:44.680 don't get enough of it. We don't get any of it really, unless you're in competitive sports, you're
00:16:50.160 in martial arts, you're in some of these practices, but outside of that, you're, you're just not going to
00:16:54.200 get it. So I think bonding physically with your son by buying some mats, I don't know, maybe spend
00:17:01.620 a hundred bucks on some mats from Amazon, have them delivered to you, set them in a corner of
00:17:06.760 your house. The mats that we have, I want to say they're probably eight by eight foot square foot
00:17:13.220 mat and they fold up, they collapse. So when we're not using them, we fold them, throw them under the
00:17:18.020 table. And then when we want to pull them out, which is just about every day, we unfold them and we
00:17:22.240 rough house and we wrestle. I don't instruct them too much as much as we play games. Cause I want to
00:17:27.160 make it fun, but that might be a way to alleviate some of the physicality, but you're never going to
00:17:32.380 get rid of it. In fact, you shouldn't want to get rid of it. If you want to get rid of it, just pop
00:17:36.040 them, pop them full of drugs. And you know, you can sedate them, but Jaden, I'm sure that's not what
00:17:41.020 you want to do. No sane human being father, especially would want to do that. So burn it out of them.
00:17:46.880 Let them use it in a productive way. All right. Wilson land, excuse me. He says, have you climbed
00:17:52.200 Mount Katalin yet? No, I haven't. I actually haven't done a lot of hikes around here in,
00:17:57.280 in Maine. I've been here for a year. Look, I'm not using it as an excuse. I'm just saying I've
00:18:02.760 been busy with other things, but a lot of these hikes are something that I'm very, very interested
00:18:06.940 in. But that isn't something we participated yet in. Chris Moore, how are you prepared in the event
00:18:13.980 of a real pandemic? Do you have a survival cash? Yes, we do. Food storage is very important for us.
00:18:21.120 Provisions are very important for us. You know, I've actually, my wife and I and family have used
00:18:24.980 food storage, even outside of any sort of pandemic or real natural disaster emergency. I mean, we've
00:18:30.280 been in financial hardship in the past. We've been married for 16 years this year. And especially early
00:18:36.900 in our marriage, we really, really struggled financially. And I'll tell you, it's the beans
00:18:41.540 and the rice and the green beans and the things that she can, that really went a long way to ensuring 1.00
00:18:46.160 that her and I, and my one-year-old son at the time actually had food in our bellies.
00:18:51.640 So having food storage is beneficial, even outside of some sort of natural disaster, or
00:18:58.600 in this case, like Chris says, a real pandemic, you might just find yourself in a bad financial
00:19:03.880 situation and you don't have money to pay for groceries, which we were at the time. And so we
00:19:08.720 tapped into our food storage. And my goal has always been to have one year of food storage for myself
00:19:14.080 and my family. We have ammunition, we have guns, we have all the provisions in place. Like this stuff
00:19:20.020 is very real to me. And I think it's a crucial part of being a man. We talk about the core tenants
00:19:25.880 of masculinity, which is to protect, provide and preside. And that, that protect and provide
00:19:32.900 component is crucial. And we need to think about situations and events that might come up that,
00:19:40.160 uh, that we aren't totally inadequately prepared for so we can get ready now. So if, and when those
00:19:46.320 situations come up, we'll find ourselves in a, in a good, in a good position.
00:19:52.840 So food storage, yeah. Food storage, ammunition, supplies, things in my truck, things in the house,
00:20:00.460 blankets, even just having backup systems and procedures in place. You know, the power went out
00:20:06.860 here towards the end of winter last year, I guess it was early this year. And we had our generator,
00:20:13.340 fortunately with some propane, uh, running to the generator and it was hooked up to our panel.
00:20:18.640 We had that installed. One of the first things we did when we moved here and for three days,
00:20:22.620 the power was completely out. Well, without the power, you know, we would have froze to death.
00:20:28.120 So having that in place was crucial and it was expensive and I didn't want to pay for it,
00:20:33.420 but having that in place was crucial, uh, because of the situation we found ourselves in. So
00:20:38.120 part of our job as men is to anticipate what might come up and then to make ourselves capable
00:20:43.520 of dealing with it. Sean Smith, how did you grow your podcast? Any tips for those who are
00:20:51.260 podcasting themselves? Sean, the biggest thing is to be consistent and then to continue to level up
00:20:56.380 the caliber of guests that you're getting on the podcast and then to make it easy for them to share.
00:21:00.380 And that's it. Outside of that, I would say maybe, uh, things like, uh, know exactly what you,
00:21:07.080 your mission is and what you stand for, uh, be willing to be controversial. Uh, and then just
00:21:13.040 getting good at articulating and sharing a message and then sharing it over and over and over again.
00:21:18.040 Sometimes I think when I share on social media, sometimes I think, you know, this is the same thing
00:21:24.120 you guys have heard for the last five and a half years, but it's important because new guys have joined
00:21:28.500 in new guys are listening guys that have been around forever are seeing the consistency of
00:21:33.560 your messaging and your branding and what you're talking about. And it resonates with those
00:21:36.960 individuals. So I get a lot of compliments about the consistency in our messaging. Well,
00:21:41.620 that's not just randomly. That's how it worked out. It's very, very deliberate and very intentional
00:21:47.040 outside of that. Just get your head in the game, get in the game and get after it. Try to secure
00:21:53.040 great guests, make it very, very easy for them to share and then be willing to stand your ground
00:21:57.840 and just do what I do. Watch what I do. This is the suggestion I give when people say, how can I be
00:22:04.000 successful in fill in the blank? Find those people who are successful in fill in the blank and then pay
00:22:10.560 them money to coach you to be successful in fill in the blank. It's very easy. It's a very simple
00:22:17.480 process. It's not complicated. It's not complex. We like to complicate it.
00:22:21.540 Oh, it couldn't possibly be that easy. Well, that gives us an out. If it's not easy, it gives us an
00:22:26.020 out. It is easy. It is easy. You guys will say, well, it's simple, not easy. No, it's, it's simple
00:22:32.080 and it's easy. If you were committed and you were dedicated to it and you did what other people told
00:22:40.400 you to do, who were successful and you followed and mimicked what they did, then it would be simple
00:22:45.480 and easy for you. So don't overlook it. Don't overcomplicate it. It doesn't need to be that way.
00:22:49.640 Bob Ross says, what are your options on the legalization of CBD and THC? How do you view
00:22:57.420 this both nationally and locally? Look, I'm not an expert on this stuff, but it seems to me that if
00:23:05.920 you can drink alcohol, you can smoke cigarettes, you can gamble, you can, you can do all these things
00:23:12.240 that we know are not necessarily good for you, that we can trust individuals to make smart and good
00:23:19.740 decisions with regards to their use of, uh, cannabis and marijuana, CBD and THC. I don't know
00:23:29.100 how it impacts the mind and the body and the physiology relative to alcohol, because this isn't
00:23:35.620 something I study, but it seems to me that, that it's not any worse than those things. Now, I think
00:23:42.920 there are drugs that should be banned just because of the, uh, general welfare of society. When you start
00:23:48.820 getting into hard drugs, like, like meth and some of these others, well, I think that's probably
00:23:53.200 something we ought to consider because we know that it doesn't just impact the individual. It starts
00:23:58.100 to pour over into theft and violence and some of these other things that, uh, create real problems
00:24:03.180 for society. But I don't know if that's true of CBD and THC. I think with a CBD, I think,
00:24:10.300 and I don't know, again, I'm not the expert on this stuff, but it seems to me that from my perspective,
00:24:15.340 that most CBDs are, are legalized already, uh, because they're using it in oils and creams and
00:24:24.900 shampoo and beard oil and everything else, which I don't know if there's any real benefit to that.
00:24:29.740 Uh, but yeah, I think it's a recreational drug. I think a lot of people use it. Um,
00:24:35.060 I've had people very close to me who have used, uh, marijuana, uh, for medicinal purposes and it's
00:24:40.720 actually worked. So now, as far as nationally and locally, how, how do I view this? I think states
00:24:49.300 ought to be able to make those decisions on their own. That's it. Simple. As I believe with most things,
00:24:55.880 the state ought to make the decision. It's that easy. All right. Daniel Krause,
00:25:01.300 will you ever do an event in Australia in the future? I anticipate and imagine that we will.
00:25:06.440 Anecdotally, I've seen a lot of orders from our store come from Australia. Uh, and a lot of our
00:25:11.420 members in the iron council and in our Facebook group are from Australia, uh, and our download
00:25:17.120 are from Australia as well. So we, so the, the overwhelming bulk of the downloads and traffic
00:25:22.620 that we'd receive is from the U S that makes sense. Uh, then you get into Canada and the UK,
00:25:28.220 it's about split evenly between the two. So Canada and the UK, and then the third most, uh,
00:25:33.460 listened to or engaged demographic is, is Australia. So I imagine that in the future,
00:25:39.220 we probably will do an event when restrictions ease and travel isn't as difficult as it is now.
00:25:45.540 Um, yeah, now I will say this, here's the one thing that's always fascinating to me is people
00:25:49.860 will say things like, you know, if you did an event in Australia, or if you did an event in
00:25:55.140 Florida, or if you did an event in California, then I would definitely go. I would definitely go
00:25:59.860 because look, we have an event coming up. It's called the main event. If you're interested,
00:26:03.540 check it out, order a man.com slash main event. And not surprisingly, it's in Maine. That's why we
00:26:08.200 called it main event. We're not very creative around here. So, uh, and I've had guys reach out.
00:26:13.700 Oh, well, I, you know, I really want to come to the event, but you know, if it was in Montana,
00:26:17.740 in my backyard, then I would go. And I've actually found the opposite to be true. Like if you're not
00:26:24.700 willing to come to Maine and I realized Australia is a little far. Okay. I'm going to give you a
00:26:30.220 little bit of pass on that one. Cause it's literally across the planet. I get it. But if you live in
00:26:35.640 Minnesota and you're like, well, Maine, you know, I don't know. I don't know if I can get to Maine,
00:26:40.160 but if you had it in Minnesota, I would do it here. Odds are you wouldn't even do it if it was in your
00:26:46.660 own backyard. Oh, you know, like, yeah, I know you guys are doing my event, your event in my
00:26:50.600 backyard, but like, I've got to go to the dentist today and my kids and this and that and fill in
00:26:55.240 the blank. You guys invest in yourself. All right. Don't pull this BS of saying, Hey, just because
00:27:02.160 it's not, it doesn't happen to be in your own backyard, literally that you can't make it because
00:27:07.340 history has shown that you wouldn't make it anyways. So I've never acquiesced to these individuals
00:27:14.560 who say, you know, if you had it here, I would do it. History doesn't history suggests otherwise.
00:27:20.320 We'll say it that way. So if you like what we have to say, if you're interested in what we're
00:27:25.860 doing, come to an event. All right. And Daniel, I know you're in Australia. I know it's difficult,
00:27:31.020 but surely you have a desire to come to the U S for some reason. So maybe it's next year,
00:27:37.780 maybe it's in two years and you start stashing money aside right now. And you coordinate one of our
00:27:42.880 events with your U S tour and you make it happen until we get to Australia. But I do imagine that
00:27:49.160 we will at some point. Okay. All right. How are we doing on time here? About 30 minutes in. Cool.
00:27:56.100 Alistair Vek. What are the best ways to avoid injuries and get back to motivate, to get back
00:28:03.120 to the routine after a break? It's kind of phrased interestingly. Also the best ways to get good sleep.
00:28:09.100 Look guys, I'm not the expert on this. There's plenty of other individuals who can, who can tell
00:28:14.600 you how to avoid injuries. My fitness coach is Josiah Novak. Certainly a big help for me. You can
00:28:20.520 look them up on Instagram or Facebook. Good sleep. I mean, there's book, Sean Stevenson, I believe
00:28:27.200 wrote a great book on, on sleep habits. Ted Rice. We've done a podcast with him talks about getting
00:28:33.620 good sleep. There's plenty of information out there on getting proper sleep and avoiding injuries.
00:28:39.500 The only thing I would be able to add and suggest is that you make sure you stretch and you warm up,
00:28:46.320 you eat right. You get the sleep that you need. You don't overdo your training, which I think some
00:28:50.780 of us could fall into. Not all of us. Cause I think it's more likely that we undertrain, but some men
00:28:56.500 probably could overtrain and you just be smart. You know, people have asked me with, with my training,
00:29:02.600 do I have any injuries? And I don't, my body has fortunately always been very resilient.
00:29:08.680 And I'm not sure that's because of anything I've done or just because physically that's the way that
00:29:14.760 I'm made. My body's always been pretty resilient. I never suffered any real injuries in sports when I
00:29:21.460 was playing as, as a high school student and athlete. Um, even now at 39 years old, I had to think
00:29:28.520 about that one for a minute. Um, with the training that I have, I've never, never experienced any real
00:29:36.120 injuries. You know, I've got some minor shoulder pain periodically, got a little bit of hyper
00:29:40.480 extension, maybe in my elbow occasionally just from some training. Um, but all of those things are
00:29:45.680 worked through and my body's always been pretty resilient, fortunately. So I don't have much to share
00:29:50.180 there. Wish I could help more, but there's plenty of other information. That's way, way better suited than
00:29:54.840 I am. You might hear the shuffling of the papers here. So there it is. Mike Snyder, do you have any
00:30:01.180 suggestions or resources on how to make a tax strategy, uh, for personal or business finances?
00:30:07.180 Well, I don't have any suggestions other than find a qualified CPA. Uh, that that's it. Just find a
00:30:14.220 very qualified CPA. Cause I'm not going to give you any tax advice here. I just don't know enough about
00:30:19.100 your personal situation. I don't know what you're trying to do. I don't know what businesses you have
00:30:22.280 or income. I don't know any of that stuff for me. So for me to say, do X, Y, and Z would be,
00:30:28.280 would be ignorant at best and potentially destructive for you and your financial strategy.
00:30:36.060 So, um, find a great CPA. Ask, how do you find that? Ask the most successful people, you know, 0.93
00:30:42.840 financially successful people, you know, who they use. That goes back to the question earlier. How do
00:30:47.720 you build success? You find people who are successful and you do what they do. So go through
00:30:52.080 your, your, I was going to say Rolodex, go through your phone. Uh, cause believe it or not. And I think
00:30:58.920 a lot of you guys actually had Rolodexes when you were younger because we didn't have these. This thing
00:31:04.180 didn't come out until I was like a senior in high school. Maybe even after that, anyways, get out your
00:31:09.800 contacts wherever they are and look for the most successful person, you know, call them up. Hey,
00:31:16.640 I need a tax strategy for my income and my business finances. Who do you use? And they'll help you.
00:31:24.080 That's what I would do. Zach Williams, uh, trust building with children, exercise habits,
00:31:31.080 ways to overcome when their fears become a reality. Uh, for example, I spent two days encouraging my
00:31:36.940 four-year-old daughter to not be afraid of fish and to swim while at the beach. She can finally get
00:31:43.140 in with the hour stung within the hour. Uh, she was stung by a jellyfish. She trusted my words and
00:31:49.400 like, like does it wasn't perfect. How can I explain to her that we can't live in fear, but trust those
00:31:54.580 around us and ourselves to experience live and thrive? Well, you know, I think, I think one mistake
00:32:03.720 that we make as parents is we try to make our children believe that things will always be
00:32:08.920 perfect, right? Like nothing bad will ever happen and everything will be fine. My, my, one of my
00:32:16.140 sons, for example, he gets afraid at night because he thinks there's going to be a break-in or an
00:32:20.960 intruder. And for me to say, Hey, don't worry about that. Actually, that would be a lie.
00:32:25.540 That wouldn't be an accurate statement. That wouldn't actually help him in his life because
00:32:32.400 you actually should, to some degree, be concerned with that. Not that it should consume your life.
00:32:38.220 Of course it can be taken to the extreme, but you ought to be concerned with that.
00:32:42.780 So I think one of the things that we really need to make sure that we do is explain the reality of
00:32:47.840 the situation. Because if we don't, then we set ourselves up for failure and them for failure.
00:32:51.840 Oh, nothing will happen. Everything will be fine. You won't have to worry about it. And then your
00:32:56.200 daughter gets stung by a jellyfish. So looking back, what could you have done differently? Well,
00:33:02.880 odds are you probably knew there was jellyfish in, in the, uh, in the bay or wherever it is you were
00:33:09.320 swimming the ocean there. And so maybe you should have had that conversation, right? Instead of just
00:33:14.620 teeing her up that way. Uh, but I think that we overcome our fears through familiarization,
00:33:20.280 right? So fish, for example, she's afraid of fish. Well, when's the last time you went to an
00:33:24.880 aquarium and she actually saw the fish or do you have an aquarium at home? Could you even get her
00:33:30.780 a goldfish at home and help her get familiar with a goldfish and gradually introduce from there?
00:33:36.680 Yeah, you could do that. And maybe you did do that, but I think that we get over fears by gradual
00:33:41.080 introduction and familiarization with what we're afraid of. Cause typically we're afraid of the things
00:33:46.740 that we don't understand. So if we learn to understand these things better, then we're not
00:33:50.340 quite as afraid of these things. Um, and then you help her manage risk. You talk to her. I don't know
00:33:56.920 how she's four. Okay. So she's young. Once she's a little older, I would say you talk with her about
00:34:03.480 managing risk. My son's helped me with our, uh, our store, for example. And we talk about spending
00:34:09.540 tens of thousands of dollars on product. And I say, Hey, look, here's a check I wrote here. Here's how much
00:34:14.720 all of this stuff's going to cost me. And one of my sons one day said, Oh my goodness, that's a lot.
00:34:19.000 And I said, it is a lot of money. You know, that's true. It is a lot of money, but if I buy it for 10,000
00:34:24.060 and I can sell our inventory for 20, how much do I make? He's like, well, you make 10,000. And I said,
00:34:29.520 well, what's the worst case scenario. Let's play this out. What's the worst case scenario. And he said,
00:34:35.300 well, you don't sell anything. I said, exactly. So what does that mean? He's, it means that you spent
00:34:40.000 all that money and now you can't sell any of it. It's like, great. So I'm out $10,000. That's what
00:34:45.320 you're saying. Yes. That's the worst case scenario. And then I need to explain. Now, for some of you,
00:34:50.760 you might think, well, that's catastrophic. Others might think that's a drop in the bucket.
00:34:54.960 It's not a drop in the bucket for me, but it's also not catastrophic. It's somewhere in between.
00:34:59.720 That's a risk I'm willing to take. It's calculated based on what we've done in the past. I don't think
00:35:05.800 it's something I need to be overly concerned with something aware of. Uh, and then we just manage
00:35:11.040 the risk. So I like, I think people like to say things like, you know, fear is false evidence
00:35:16.720 appearing real. That's bullshit. Fear is a real thing and it's ingrained and indoctrinated, not even, 1.00
00:35:24.640 well, maybe indoctrinated to a degree, but it's also biologically hardwired into us. Why to keep you
00:35:30.880 alive? Like I don't like heights. I'm not a big fan of heights flying, especially. Okay. So if I
00:35:38.200 come to the edge of a cliff, my fear reaction turns on and says, Hey, this is dangerous. Step
00:35:44.280 away from the cliff. Well, that's a good thing. That's keeping me alive. That's telling me don't
00:35:49.220 get too close because you could potentially fall off and die. So are you telling me that's false
00:35:55.240 evidence appearing real? No, that's a very real thing. I used to hike angels landing in Southern
00:36:01.340 Utah. Some of you guys are familiar with it because you've been to Zion national park. That
00:36:04.300 was in our backyard. It was about 20 minutes from where we lived when, when we were in Utah.
00:36:08.680 And every year somebody fell off angels landing and died every year without fail. It always happened.
00:36:16.580 That individual probably should have listened to their fear receptors or whatever it is. That's
00:36:21.360 telling you don't get close to the edge. Okay. So it's not false evidence. Now, some of us might
00:36:27.880 blow it out of proportion and that's where that familiarity comes into play. But I think you
00:36:33.780 probably ought to be aware of the fear and then manage the risk effectively. And this is what we do
00:36:39.400 to our kids. We tell them to put the blindfold on, to not worry about these situations. And then they
00:36:44.780 get stung by the proverbial jellyfish. And it's like, Oh yeah, well that could happen. Sometimes
00:36:49.700 that would have been information that would have been helpful, you know, before I went into the
00:36:53.860 water. And so what do we do? We lie to our kids. So we get them to do things that they wouldn't
00:36:59.660 normally do manage the risk, teach her to manage the risk and help her see that, you know, sometimes
00:37:05.940 having a good time means you're going to need to get stung once in a while and explain that.
00:37:10.440 I hope that helps. Jeremy Piper, why we need to learn from history, not erase it. I don't know if
00:37:17.800 this is rhetorical, but you know, the, the quote is a wise man learns. What is that? A smart man
00:37:24.460 learns from his mistakes. A wise man learns from the mistakes of others. That's what you're talking
00:37:29.780 about here. I don't need to go through the lesson myself, the hard way. If I can learn the lesson
00:37:36.620 from somebody else. Now, if I'm not willing to learn it from somebody else, then I'll need to go
00:37:40.720 through it the hard way. This is the whole argument with communism and well, they, they dub it
00:37:47.440 socialism, but we know where it leads. All right. The problem with it is that it's never worked in
00:37:52.620 the history of man. And it's always led to disastrous results for everybody involved.
00:38:00.020 And if we erase history, because we're not comfortable with it, this goes back to the
00:38:05.160 previous question. Oh, I might get stung by a jellyfish. I don't, that doesn't sound good.
00:38:10.180 Well, let's just pretend the jellyfish doesn't exist. Well, that's stupid. The jellyfish does 1.00
00:38:15.320 exist and it will sting you and it will hurt. I mean, it'll happen every time, but it's a possibility
00:38:20.200 and we need to be aware of it. So when Jeremy says why we need to learn from history and not erase it
00:38:26.200 because erasing, it doesn't make the lesson go away. It's like the ostrich that buries their head in
00:38:32.540 the sand or the kid that's playing peekaboo with their daddy and puts their hands over their eyes
00:38:37.300 and thinks that, Oh, because I can't see dad, he must not be able to see me. Well, it's a very
00:38:42.680 immature way of thinking. And it's cute when your little girl is playing peekaboo with you, 0.84
00:38:47.320 but it's stupid when you have 20, 30, 40 year old grown adults who are doing the same thing. 0.99
00:38:54.840 Oh, it's uncomfortable. We had a bad history and there was racism and there was people who died. 0.99
00:39:00.760 And I don't want to hear about it. And it's like uncomfortable. So let's ignore it. Well,
00:39:05.160 ignoring it actually will recreate the situation. I mean, racism is a great example to pretend
00:39:10.660 or excuse me, to try to erase all of the history. And by the way, I'm not saying that we, we should
00:39:16.920 have shrines to racist, racist individuals. I mean, that's not what I'm saying, but you take
00:39:22.640 somebody like George Washington, for example, somebody who, who had slaves, he owned slaves.
00:39:29.220 That's irrefutable. He owned slaves, but that's not what we're celebrating. When we have a statue
00:39:34.580 of George Washington, we're not saying, Oh, this guy is a great hero because he happened to have
00:39:38.900 slaves. No, we're, we're celebrating him because of his positive accomplishments and the foundation
00:39:45.040 of this great country that we live in. We know he has flaws. He didn't always live up to the ideals
00:39:52.060 that he espoused, or at least he talked about, but he got us on the right path. And then it's our job
00:39:57.360 to learn from the past and then make it better, not to erase it completely. Because if we do that,
00:40:09.340 then the generations that come behind us won't know about what actually happened and what real
00:40:16.040 lessons need to be learned. And it would be very easy to slip into destructive and dangerous
00:40:21.500 habits, habits, activities, involvement that, that have created disastrous results for millions of
00:40:30.220 people across the planet throughout, throughout history. So let's not erase it. Let's look at it
00:40:37.280 accurately. All right. We can, we can look at George Washington, for example, and think very highly of who
00:40:42.740 he was as a war general. Think highly of who he was as the first president of the United States of
00:40:50.120 America, think very highly of, uh, some of his characteristics that he espoused. And then he
00:40:55.940 lived by in order to make him the man that he was. And at the same time, condemn some of the
00:41:01.400 negative behavior or practices. I don't think this is a hard, it seems to me that it's not a very
00:41:09.200 difficult thing, but man, I know a lot of people struggle with it. All right, let's go to Travis Smith.
00:41:14.840 When looking for a battle team, what questions should a new member of the iron council be asking leaders
00:41:19.480 of the battle teams. So Travis is specifically referring to our iron council, which is our
00:41:23.680 exclusive brotherhood. Uh, we've got about 640 men in the iron council now. And when you join the
00:41:29.100 iron council, you will be banded with and have the opportunity to join a battle team. This is a team
00:41:35.100 of 14 to 15 other individuals. We're going to hold you accountable, help you flesh out some of your
00:41:40.600 ideas when it comes to your battle plan, and then keep you on track to accomplish what you say you want
00:41:46.140 to set out to accomplish. So Travis is asking, what should a new member be asking? Well, first and
00:41:51.620 foremost, you want to look at their meeting time. That's very important. Is it going to work with
00:41:54.840 you? If it's not find a new battle team. Next, look at the members of the battle team. Are these
00:41:59.340 guys you jive with? Are these guys you resonate with? Are they trying to achieve similar things to
00:42:03.500 you? Ask them what their goals are, what their ambitions are, uh, what, what kind of successes
00:42:09.160 they've had in the past? What's kept them back? What failures have they experienced? I would want to
00:42:13.940 know that because I'm trying to walk a similar path. So try to find these individuals. I would
00:42:19.260 also ask about accountability and what ways do you hold team members accountable to their actions,
00:42:26.320 to their desires, to their battle plans? Because if I'm joining the iron council for accountability
00:42:31.300 and the overwhelming majority of men do join for that reason, then I need to know specifically
00:42:36.800 in what you do exactly in order to hold me accountable to the things that I want to accomplish.
00:42:42.260 Those are some of the questions I would ask battle team leaders. And you should visit
00:42:45.400 multiple teams, see how they answer. They're going to be asking you some questions. At least they
00:42:50.140 should, because this is not a one-way interview. This is a two-way interview. You're interviewing
00:42:55.780 them and the team and they're interviewing you to see if you're a good fit. And these are some of
00:42:59.440 the questions they should be asking you as well. Dave Boris, there's a hyphen or an accent there.
00:43:05.660 And I don't know how to pronounce that, but Dave Boris says, do you have tips on how to avoid
00:43:10.460 our default? Uh, also known as falling into the mind, mindless automatic actions of the natural man
00:43:18.120 or exercises one can do to strengthen discipline. I feel myself slipping into that state way too often.
00:43:26.100 I mean, I wouldn't be making this question if I wasn't on Facebook right now, all the best,
00:43:30.760 keep up the great work you do love it. Uh, yeah, the, the, the best way to do this,
00:43:37.040 to avoid slipping into your default is having a strategy that keeps you from slipping into your
00:43:41.840 default. This is the battle plan that I use personally. Maybe you have another one, another
00:43:45.640 system that you use, but I'll tell you, it's very difficult for me to slip into default because I have
00:43:50.360 this plan. It's articulated. It's drafted every 90 days. I got it documented. I have to track it
00:43:56.860 every single day. And so it's very easy for me just to like coast into wherever life is going to
00:44:02.380 take me because my intentionality into making sure that doesn't happen is so good. It's so effective.
00:44:09.360 It's in a procedure it's codified. And this keeps me from falling into that default mode that the
00:44:15.720 natural man has a tendency of doing every time. But the only reason you fall into that default mode is
00:44:21.620 because it's the default. Like there's no other plan in place. So you have to have another plan
00:44:28.560 in place to ensure that you don't slip back to the path of least resistance. That's the natural man.
00:44:35.300 So use the battle planner or use another program, use another system, read a bunch of books,
00:44:40.600 listen to a bunch of podcasts on how to plan out your day, how to plan out your year or your week.
00:44:46.460 And the battle planner is a great resource for that as well. And by the way, being on Facebook,
00:44:50.980 isn't a bad thing. Kind of making it sound like it's a bad thing. I mean, I wouldn't ask this
00:44:54.960 question if I wasn't on Facebook right now, I think it's acceptable guys to be on Facebook
00:44:59.080 to varying degrees, just based on your preference and what it is you do. Like for work, I'm on
00:45:04.900 Facebook and Insta and all these other social media accounts quite often because it's my work.
00:45:09.100 So it's not that it's unacceptable. It's that it fits into the plan that I have. And that's the
00:45:13.920 most important thing. Does it fit into the greater system that you have? Matt Lewis, what is best in
00:45:20.160 life? I can't answer that for you. For me, it's my family. That's what's best in life.
00:45:26.520 I would say the best thing, and this is how I can answer this question most broadly for the most
00:45:31.100 amount of men is that the thing that's, that's best in life is autonomy. When people ask me,
00:45:37.980 what is success? The answer is it's autonomy. Cause I don't know if it's money. I don't know if
00:45:42.640 it's love. I don't know if it's romance or finances or fitness, or I don't know what it is for you.
00:45:47.060 I can't determine that for you, but what I can say is autonomy. And that applies generally and
00:45:53.260 broadly to every single person. It's the ability to do what you want, when you want, how you want,
00:45:59.120 why you want at any given time. And that level of autonomy is true success and truly what's best
00:46:05.000 in life for you. If I want to go spend time with my children at the lake, then the autonomy is what's
00:46:12.520 going to allow me to go do that. Now there's a lot of things that come into play. Financial
00:46:17.620 wellness is important. My ability to market myself effectively so that I can have this,
00:46:25.140 my ability to manage my time effectively so that I can get done what I need to get done so that when
00:46:30.760 I have free time, I can be fully engaged and present in whatever that free time is. So yes,
00:46:36.200 best in life, autonomy, control over your own life, not somebody else dictating for you.
00:46:42.900 Mark Birchall to crush your enemies, see them driven before you and to hear the lamentations
00:46:48.320 of their women. Cool. Not much of a question, but there you go. Mike Morens, how do we lead our
00:46:56.160 young men to respect authority, follow laws and stand for freedom when it feels like our freedoms are
00:47:01.660 being limited and being taken away by laws and authorities now a days? Well, you know, protesting
00:47:08.600 is a huge way to do that. That's, that's like ingrained and indoctrinated into who we are as,
00:47:13.780 as Americans, peaceful protesting. It was always fascinating when people are fully on board with
00:47:19.320 quote unquote, peaceful protesting. And yet when a business owner, like we had earlier in the week,
00:47:24.920 Ian Smith stands up for what he believes. You have some of those individuals who think, well,
00:47:29.000 he's breaking the law. Well, maybe he's actually peacefully protesting. Well,
00:47:33.960 he shouldn't be breaking the law. That's actually kind of the point because if it was,
00:47:40.080 if it was convenient or easy or didn't ruffle any feathers, do you think anybody would listen or pay
00:47:46.280 attention? Of course not. Colin Kaepernick, same way. And I've said it a thousand times. People will say,
00:47:54.000 well, it's not about the national anthem. No, it is about the national anthem because if it wasn't
00:48:00.460 about the national anthem, he wouldn't have protested by taking a knee during the national
00:48:05.760 anthem. He would have chosen some other time to do it. So there might be some other reasons,
00:48:10.040 but he chose the national anthem. Why? Because it would get attention because it's not comfortable.
00:48:18.720 It's not popular. It is now, but it's not popular like it wants or well, like it is now, I should say.
00:48:28.100 So Colin Kaepernick deliberately and intentionally chose to do something that wasn't popular
00:48:36.700 so that he could get attention, which would draw attention to his cause, whatever that,
00:48:42.860 that cause at the point at the time was, which was a police brutality. Okay. So, but he used
00:48:50.560 the national anthem as a tool, as a leveraging point to bring attention. So it was about the
00:48:55.160 national anthem. Let's, let's wrap our heads around that. Okay. So peaceful protesting is great. Now I
00:49:02.640 don't have to agree with Colin Kaepernick. I don't have to agree with my guest, Ian Smith for opening
00:49:07.160 his business. In this case, I happen to agree with him. I don't have to agree with any of that,
00:49:11.700 but we are a nation founded on protesting. I mean, we were literally founded on standing up against
00:49:21.580 tyrannical dictatorship, taxation without representation. That's what we're founded on.
00:49:29.560 It's in the declaration of independence. It's in the constitution. So yes, you might have to break a
00:49:38.740 few laws. Well, you should always be law abiding citizens. Actually, our constitution suggests
00:49:43.880 otherwise in certain circumstances, in certain circumstances that we are to exercise our God-given
00:49:52.720 rights to defend ourselves, our lives, our liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
00:50:01.720 That's what this nation was founded on. So what can you do to lead your young men to respect authority?
00:50:08.600 Read them the constitution, read them the declaration of independence, teach them United States history,
00:50:14.800 teach them world history, explain to them what is appropriate, explain to them when it is not,
00:50:20.820 explain to them how to, I was going to say, take matters into your own hands, but I don't want
00:50:26.760 that to be interpreted the wrong way. Explain to them ways to exercise your rights in appropriate
00:50:34.020 ways. And sometimes it might be to defy orders or even laws. And other times it's, I'm going to abide
00:50:42.520 by this and I'm not going to abide by this. I'm not saying this is the wild, wild West, but you need to
00:50:47.540 teach your sons and your daughters when it's appropriate. And when it's not, because if all
00:50:51.340 you do is toe the line, regardless of what's being said, I just saw a quote. A lot of you guys are
00:50:55.620 familiar with this. A lot of the, the Nazis during world war two, once that whole thing ended
00:51:03.220 and they were being prosecuted, we'll say things like, well, I was just following orders.
00:51:09.400 Now we say that would never be us. I was having a conversation with my brother-in-law the other
00:51:15.300 day. That would never be us. People say, really? I don't believe that. I believe that you, if you
00:51:21.880 were born and raised in Nazi Germany, that would be very easy for you to say, well, I was just
00:51:26.440 following orders. I didn't think I was being bad. I was just doing what I was supposed to be doing.
00:51:30.740 Following orders, following laws, following rules that somebody else dictated. Well, look,
00:51:37.300 if that person is evil at their core, and I don't think anybody would argue with me that Hitler was 0.99
00:51:44.080 an evil, evil human being, you're telling me that you have to follow that law and that order and that
00:51:52.160 rule. Come on now. Come on now. Like surely you don't believe that. Now, whether you want to debate 0.97
00:52:01.640 as to whether a law is justified or not, that's a different conversation. But if you believe
00:52:06.260 a law is evil, is destructive, is tyrannical in nature, you're telling me that I'm supposed to
00:52:14.580 blindly follow that law? No, that's what the Nazis said. Well, I was just, I just killed those
00:52:20.640 individuals. I was just following orders. I didn't, I don't know what I'm, I just following orders. 0.99
00:52:25.260 I don't want to be that person. You don't want to be that person. I want to stand for what's right
00:52:32.180 and what's true. And I want to obey the laws of land as long as they're right and they're true.
00:52:40.540 But if they're not right and they're not true, and they're destructive to myself, my family,
00:52:46.860 and my constitutional rights, then I believe we have a moral obligation to stand against those laws.
00:52:51.880 Now there's different avenues, elected, elected officials, public and peaceful protesting.
00:52:59.800 There's ways to go about doing this in a, in a lawful and peaceful manner. And we should exercise
00:53:04.860 those routes initially in first, but I think you teach them history, Mike, what, like what's come
00:53:14.040 of those who blindly followed orders? Nazi Germany, the great example. I was just following orders. 0.98
00:53:21.780 Well, I'm not interested in being that guy. So you teach them about these things to go to a previous
00:53:25.960 question, learn from history. Don't erase it. I hope that helps Mike. The best lesson is history.
00:53:33.460 It's all there. What's worked and what hasn't, you just got to learn it. All right, let's take a
00:53:39.280 couple more here. Alex Denison, when considering a career change and going over the pros and cons
00:53:44.420 list, what are the most important questions to be asked? Uh, you know, I've talked about this in
00:53:49.800 the past. I I'm not, I'm not like a pros and cons list kind of guy. So I Kip is more, more that I would
00:53:57.900 say, I think you'd get a better answer from Kip. I wish he was here to answer this for you today.
00:54:02.180 Um, because I don't tend to look at like, what are the pros? What are the cons? Let's do a T chart
00:54:07.260 and document it all. Um, I tend to be more intuitive. Like this feels right. Okay. Sounds
00:54:15.100 good. Go and do that. So I guess the questions I would ask is how, how will this impact my family?
00:54:23.000 How will this impact my finances? And I use all of that to support my intuitive decision. Like if I
00:54:30.200 feel like starting an order a man podcast is a good thing, I didn't do a pros and cons list. I just said,
00:54:36.360 okay, well it feels right. So I'm going to do it, but in order to make it work, I'm going to have
00:54:41.420 to have some money set aside. I know what's going to cut into my work time. And so here's, you know,
00:54:45.980 five steps I need to do to ensure that I can make sure this works. So I use the questions I was asking
00:54:51.340 as ways to support and validate my idea that I felt good about. So I don't actually use personally
00:55:00.300 a very rational pros and cons list to say, should I do this? Should I not? I'm like,
00:55:05.820 nah, it feels pretty good. What do I need to, now that I've made my decision and I know that feels
00:55:10.080 pretty good. What do I need to do in order to minimize my risk? That's more of the approach I
00:55:15.320 take. I hope that helps. Santiago Andres says, what general life lessons would you tell, pass on to
00:55:21.120 your son and daughter also dating? These questions are hard for me, man. They really are. Recently,
00:55:26.040 my younger bro and sister told me that her parents don't talk to them much in regards to this matter.
00:55:30.720 So I want to take on the challenge. Look, I've said this before guys, like if you want better
00:55:37.100 answers, you've got to ask great questions. You got to improve the quality of your questions and just
00:55:40.720 saying, Hey, generally, what would you say? I could be a thousand, a million, an infinite number of things.
00:55:46.720 What specifically do you want to know about? Do you want to know about a discipline? Do you want to
00:55:51.540 know about encouraging risk-taking like a gentleman asked earlier? Do you want to know
00:55:55.860 about dating? You said here, do you want to know about education? Like what? I don't know. I don't
00:56:03.440 know what you want to talk about. Generally, I would say that I would teach my kids to be
00:56:10.340 self-sufficient and self-reliant and take some accountability for their own life. I'd teach
00:56:14.340 them individual responsibility. Generally, that's what I would say. And then that can translate into a
00:56:19.840 lot of different topics. But if you want something more specific and then ask me more specific and I get
00:56:23.140 to, I can get to it. All right, let's take this as the last one. Nathan Mason.
00:56:28.460 The Bible has a lot to say about being a good man, but what does it have to say about being good at
00:56:33.180 being a man? I don't know. Read it. I mean, read it. You guys can interpret it. Look, I'm not the
00:56:39.460 best when it comes to the Bible. Like I have read the Bible. I'm not a scholar. I don't have scripture
00:56:46.140 memorized. I said this before. So I would just read it. That's what I would do. All I know is
00:56:54.660 that we've been instructed and taught that faith without works is dead. And so being good at being
00:57:03.960 a man is more than philosophical faith. For example, it's action. It's putting things into
00:57:11.220 practice. It's doing, it's working. And so I'm not going to rely on faith. Oh, this goes back to
00:57:17.840 somebody who was talking about a global pandemic. Oh, God will save me. Well, will he? I don't know.
00:57:24.360 I mean, I'd like to think he would, but maybe he's already saved me by giving me everything I need to
00:57:29.040 save myself. All the mindset, the skillset, the provisions, the financial resources and acumen to be
00:57:36.040 able to build up my own safety net. That doesn't mean I don't recognize his hand in what we do.
00:57:41.300 It just means that I am grateful eternally and every day for the blessings I've already had.
00:57:45.960 Now it's my job to put them into practice. And I think that's the distinction between being a good
00:57:52.160 man morality and being good at being a man capability. I work on both because look, if you
00:58:00.200 have a capable man who's not moral, well, Hitler's a great example of that. Obviously a great communicator 0.89
00:58:07.540 obviously could inspire. I'm not saying that in a positive way, by the way, but could,
00:58:12.780 could inspire millions and millions of people to do horrific things to each other.
00:58:19.200 So that's, there's some capability there. Uh, he probably had some, some military acumen obviously
00:58:29.820 was he moral? Of course not. Nobody would argue that he's moral.
00:58:36.680 So capability or being good at being a man is not enough. Now, if you have a moral individual,
00:58:44.620 and I'm kind of wrestling this with this in my mind, can you be moral and not be capable? I don't
00:58:53.440 know. I don't know that you can, I've been thinking a lot about this. I used to say, well, morality and
00:58:59.180 capability were separate. They were distinct, but I'm not sure that's the case. I think morality has a
00:59:04.680 component of capability. So for example, can you be, can you be, uh, let, let's take, let's take this
00:59:15.360 example. Can you be committed to your wife if you're not tempted to be unfaithful? I don't know.
00:59:23.400 I don't know if that's actually commitment. Commitment to me would say, okay, I'm tempted every
00:59:28.380 day. And yet I choose not to act on those temptations. So that's how I look again. I'm
00:59:36.660 trying to, I'm maybe you can hear me thinking about this as you're listening to me right now.
00:59:40.980 It's like, can you be moral and not capable? I don't know. I don't think you can so peaceful.
00:59:47.880 This is, we fall into this with nice guy syndrome, right? Can you be peaceful if you're not capable
00:59:54.820 of administering violence? I don't know that you can, you might just be a wimp. 0.99
01:00:01.800 Somebody who's peaceful is probably very capable of administering violence effectively.
01:00:08.520 And yet chooses not to, in all situations exhibit or display his ability to be violent and to do
01:00:16.220 violence to other individuals. These are things I wrestle with and think about obviously. And
01:00:22.460 obviously I haven't thought completely through the answer, but I do believe still that being a good
01:00:27.480 man represents morality, decency, kindness, compassion, empathy, the virtues we typically
01:00:33.100 think of that way. And they might even be more feminine in nature. And I don't say that negatively
01:00:37.740 just mean empathy, kindness, compassion, nurturing. We all have the ability to exhibit those
01:00:43.580 characteristics, but generally we consider them more feminine in nature. And then being good at being
01:00:49.620 a man is something that we would consider more masculine in nature, right? Protect, provide, 0.96
01:00:56.020 preside, strength, mastery, as Jack Donovan would say, the tactical virtues, which I believe if I
01:01:01.280 remember correctly are strength, honor, mastery, and the last one escapes me. You guys can correct me on
01:01:09.900 that. But those are the virtues that we consider generally masculine. And I think that lends more
01:01:16.300 towards being good at being a man, which actually Jack Donovan talks quite a bit about and a book.
01:01:22.260 I think it's that one right there. I think it's that one, or it might be that one called manhood
01:01:29.760 in the making by David Gilmore talks about this concept at length as well. Check it out. Manhood
01:01:34.220 in the making by David Gilmore or any of Jack Donovan's works. Cause he talks about it as well.
01:01:38.640 All right, guys, man, a lot of questions, a lot of good ones today. I hope I gave you some good
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01:03:21.060 I was going to talk with you about on Friday. I've got a note in here somewhere. I'll pull it up here
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01:03:30.340 me about that. How do you maintain consistency? How do you maintain discipline? Your world's been
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