Order of Man - March 13, 2020


The Playbook to Destroy Society | FRIDAY FIELD NOTES


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In this episode of The Order of Man Podcast & Movement, Ryan Michler discusses the toxic nature of feminism and how we can reclaim and restore masculinity in a society that seems to be increasingly dismissive of it. In this episode, Ryan shares a quote from John Stoltenberg, who argues that we need to live a life of manhood.

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00:00:00.000 You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest, embrace your fears, and boldly chart
00:00:05.000 your own path. When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time, every time.
00:00:10.440 You are not easily deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient, strong. This is your life. This is who
00:00:17.240 you are. This is who you will become. At the end of the day, and after all is said and done,
00:00:22.800 you can call yourself a man. Gentlemen, what is going on today? My name is Ryan Michler,
00:00:27.580 and I am the host and the founder of the order of man podcast and movement. I want to welcome you
00:00:32.600 here. I want to welcome you back. Whether you're just listening to this or you're watching the video
00:00:37.220 right now. And by the way, if you aren't watching the video, then I would highly encourage you to
00:00:41.260 head over to youtube.com slash order of man subscribe. We've really been growing. I think
00:00:47.340 I started the YouTube channel roughly five years ago, but haven't done anything with it up until
00:00:52.180 probably six or so months ago. And it continues to grow. So I'm wondering if it's because you just
00:00:59.400 want to look at me. I can't actually believe that that's the case, but for whatever reason,
00:01:04.160 there seems to be a connect between me sharing these words and you watching me share them.
00:01:09.860 So if you feel so inclined, then head over to YouTube and check it out. Guys, either way,
00:01:16.700 I'm glad you're here. This is a podcast designed, I should say a movement. I say that every week.
00:01:21.820 It's not only the podcast, but it's the events, it's the social media profiles, it's the blogs,
00:01:26.020 it's the videos, it's the podcast, it's everything that we're doing. And it's my goal to reclaim and
00:01:31.640 restore masculinity in a society that seems to be increasingly dismissive of it, which is actually
00:01:36.940 what we're going to talk about today. I did a new segment last week and I called it ridiculousness
00:01:42.320 of the week. You know, I, I reconsidered that. And sometimes I have good ideas and most of the time
00:01:47.640 they're bad ideas. Not that it was necessarily a bad idea, but it was just something I wanted
00:01:51.480 to try. And as I got some feedback and I thought more about it, I don't want to focus on the
00:01:55.880 negative solely for the sake of focusing on the negative. But I am going to share with you an
00:02:01.300 article that I came across today, not because I want to call this ridiculousness of the week,
00:02:05.440 although it is, but because it ties in nicely to what I want to talk with you about for the bulk
00:02:11.740 of the conversation today, which is the playbook of the destruction of society. And a lot of people
00:02:19.140 might say, well, Ryan, aren't you just focusing on the negative? And yes, I am bringing light to
00:02:24.020 the negative, but I think it's important. We do this because if we don't, uh, we don't know exactly
00:02:28.780 what we're fighting against. We don't know what the battle is. And so I refuse to be ignorant.
00:02:33.420 Uh, I refuse to be quiet. So rather than just share with you all of the negative things and bitch 1.00
00:02:38.540 and moan and whine and gripe, like most people do, not only am I going to draw attention to what I
00:02:43.520 would consider the negative, but I'm also going to give us some strategies to overcome the negative.
00:02:48.580 If we recognize that there's some sort of a threat, then the next process or the next step
00:02:54.940 in the process is to begin to create the solutions, which is one of the things I mentioned on last
00:03:00.480 week's Friday field notes. So we'll get into this in a minute. Um, I'm just pulling up my account
00:03:04.960 here because like I said, I shared this, uh, I shared this article that I ran across from vice.
00:03:09.500 Uh, the author is Wilbert L Cooper. Uh, this was in 2018, July of 2018. So a little over a year and a
00:03:16.540 half ago, but I think, uh, not only is this applicable as it was a year and a half ago,
00:03:21.400 it's probably even more relevant than it was then. Uh, the article is titled all masculinity is toxic.
00:03:27.900 And the subtitle here, feminist writer and activist, John, uh, Stotlenberg believes we need to give up 0.79
00:03:34.540 manhood for good. If we want to live morally sound and loved filled lives. So I'm going to highlight
00:03:41.340 a couple of things here, and then we'll get into the meat of the discussion and I'll tie in why I
00:03:45.520 thought I'd bring this up to you. Uh, not only was this an article, but it was actually a recap of an
00:03:50.960 interview that the author, uh, Mr. Cooper did. Uh, he said, one of the things here, he says, what does
00:03:55.600 manhood mean to you? And, uh, John Stotlenberg said, manhood is a contested identity. It arises in
00:04:02.940 combat kids who were assigned male at birth, learn through playground fights and so forth and see
00:04:07.820 the world through the prism of winners and losers. What I wanted to focus on here, as it said, kids
00:04:13.360 are assigned, or excuse me, kids who are assigned male at birth. Look, nobody's assigned male or female
00:04:20.260 at birth. You either are a male or you are a female, but you are not assigned anything, I guess
00:04:28.700 evolutionarily or creatively, uh, you, you might be assigned, but it's not like human beings are
00:04:36.460 deciding that, uh, we think we'll make this one a girl or, uh, we'll think we'll make this one a boy.
00:04:41.360 No, it is very clearly, it's very evident, uh, that it is either a boy or a girl. Now I know 0.52
00:04:47.160 there's those who are intersex and that represents, I have no idea right off hand, but I would say 0.001% 0.89
00:04:54.900 of the population. And just because there's an outlier of the norm, which is typical, right?
00:05:00.740 Whether we're talking about stocks or business organizations or families or top performers in
00:05:07.140 any field, there's always an outlier, but just because there's an outlier outside of the norm,
00:05:12.020 which is two genders does not mean that there are three or more genders. Yes, there are intersex
00:05:18.020 people. Uh, and, and none of this by the way is, is meant as, uh, meant to be, um, uh, insulting to
00:05:26.880 them or, or to put those people down. That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm just saying that there
00:05:31.500 are two sexes and there is a small fraction of a percent that fall outside of that, but nobody is
00:05:38.240 assigned anything. We are scientifically biologically male or female. All right. The next thing I wanted to
00:05:45.680 bring attention to, I'm not going to get into all this, but, uh, John Stotlenberg, I think is how
00:05:51.940 you pronounce his name. He was talking about here, uh, about, uh, toxic masculinity and whether
00:05:58.840 you can be a good man. And he says, he says this, he says, um, when someone does the things that you
00:06:05.640 mentioned, and he's referring to the right things that the, uh, the interviewer was asking. So he says,
00:06:10.180 when somebody does the right, excuse me, does the things that you mentioned, you could say, quote,
00:06:15.360 that's being a good man. But I would simply say, that's just being a good person. Well,
00:06:23.300 both can be true. It can mean that you're being a good person. And it can also mean that you're being
00:06:27.300 a good man. What does it mean to be a good man? Uh, it means that you're a protector, a provider,
00:06:32.200 and a presider, a leader, a leader. We've talked about that at length over the past five years.
00:06:36.700 What's interesting about this is essentially he's undermining his entire argument through this one
00:06:42.160 statement. When someone does the things that you mentioned, again, referring to what we would
00:06:46.440 generally consider good behavior, you could say that's being a good man, but I would simply say
00:06:52.800 that's just being a good person. Well, if that logic is true, then negative behavior would simply
00:07:00.300 be seen as being a bad person, not just toxic masculinity. So essentially he undermined his
00:07:07.740 entire argument here. There is no toxic masculinity. All right. There's negative behavior. There's bad
00:07:12.300 behavior. There's good behavior, but there is no toxic masculinity, just like there's no toxic
00:07:17.620 femininity. There just is. And I don't acknowledge that phrase either. Cause some people say, well,
00:07:23.220 if, if men are toxic, so are women. No, don't acknowledge that phrase. Cause then you give validity 0.82
00:07:27.340 or credibility to the idea that there is such thing as a toxic masculinity. And what's interesting
00:07:31.960 is people say, well, Ryan, Ryan, nobody believes that all people are toxic or excuse me. All men are
00:07:38.100 toxic when they say toxic masculinity. Well, that's not true because if you're watching this video, 0.94
00:07:44.040 you can see right there, the title is all masculinity is toxic. So it would appear as if there are some
00:07:54.420 individuals who believe that all, cause that's right there, all masculinity is toxic. All right,
00:08:02.380 let's get to the next point here. Last point. And then we'll get into the rest of the discussion,
00:08:05.780 which will tie into what I'm saying here. And we'll start providing some solutions rather than
00:08:09.100 just focusing on the negative here. All right. So the question is, if you find yourself in a
00:08:14.740 confrontation and you opt out of the construct, the construct, the construct of manhood, you're going
00:08:21.200 to be seen as the loser by your peers. How does one become comfortable with that? He gets into a lot
00:08:27.980 right here, but I'll read this sentence because this is really what I wanted to highlight. He says,
00:08:31.600 it comes with living without the manhood mask. That's an interesting phrase, the manhood mask,
00:08:38.480 allowing your core being and sense of self to get stronger. And then he goes into some other stuff,
00:08:42.660 but let's talk about the manhood mask. All right. There is no manhood mask. There is no mask of
00:08:49.320 masculinity. You know, would you accuse an artist or a mother or a CEO or an athlete who is aspirational,
00:09:00.180 who wants to become a better version of themselves of wearing a mask because they want to do so?
00:09:06.160 No, of course not. So this idea of the manhood mask is asinine. It's ridiculous guys. You're not 0.98
00:09:12.940 wearing a mask because you're trying to be more masculine. You're not wearing a mask because
00:09:18.840 you want to be a more capable protector, provider, and presider. You're aspiring to be something more
00:09:25.360 than you currently are to become the best man that you're capable of becoming. That's not a mask.
00:09:31.260 That's a good thing. That's aspirational. And that's something that should inspire and uplift
00:09:36.420 other people, you and serve everybody. Well, so again, that's the article I wanted to share with you,
00:09:43.200 not ridiculousness of the week, although it is ridiculous, but I share that specifically with you
00:09:47.560 because I wanted to talk with you about the subject today. And specifically, I decided to call this
00:09:53.520 the playbook, uh, to destroy society. And there's, I think there's a, what is it? Let's see seven,
00:10:01.320 seven steps right here that I have identified or seven processes or behaviors or actions or plays,
00:10:06.760 if you will, that I believe are undermining society that are undermining our ability to perform,
00:10:13.340 our ability to be protected, our ability to build wealth and experiences and have the fulfillment and
00:10:18.120 satisfaction to raise our children in freedom and Liberty, to pursue the things that are meaningful
00:10:23.780 and interesting to us, uh, to worship the way that we see fit. This is, this is a threat to all of that.
00:10:30.860 And I feel like if we recognize what the playbook is, then inevitably we're going to have ways to combat
00:10:36.500 this ways to improve. But if we don't know what the other side is doing, uh, then it's going to be
00:10:41.460 very difficult to rationally intelligently, uh, propose solutions to what we see going on with,
00:10:48.720 with society. Uh, we're on the, obviously the, the theme of sports, because we're talking about
00:10:53.300 the playbook of destroying society. When you look at a professional sports team or even a high school
00:10:58.860 team, what are those teams doing? They're watching video, right? They're watching video. They're
00:11:04.180 learning plays. They're learning everything they can about the other team so that they can better
00:11:09.020 equip themselves to, uh, do what it is they want to do. In this case, when now winning sounds like a
00:11:15.200 zero sum game, it's not really the reference I'm using here. I'm just talking about winning at life,
00:11:19.460 meaning that you're accomplishing what you want to accomplish, that you're as a man,
00:11:23.880 you're leading your family. Well, you're leading yourself. Well, you're stepping up in the community,
00:11:28.000 you're growing your business or improving in your career endeavors and pursuits. You're making more
00:11:33.640 money. You're having more of an impact and you're living the life that you want to. That's what it means to
00:11:37.700 win. And by the way, when I talk about it in that context, that, that, that doesn't come at the
00:11:42.300 expense of other people, right? I can win on all of that front and you can also win on all of that
00:11:48.380 front. In fact, I would argue that if I win on that front, then I'm more likely to be able to help
00:11:52.700 you and vice versa win on your front. So we're not talking about a zero sum game game here. Although we
00:11:58.300 are talking about taking a, uh, uh, from their playbook so that we can combat this. All right,
00:12:02.960 let's get into it. Number one, and these aren't necessarily in any order. And I would love,
00:12:06.860 by the way, to hear what you guys have to say about it. If you think I'm wrong or you think
00:12:10.540 I'm right, or maybe there's a couple of other, uh, uh, strategies that you've seen in here,
00:12:15.040 then let's bring them to the, to the forefront. And we can start talking about these things.
00:12:18.880 So number one is to remove moral authority. If morality is subjective, then it's open to
00:12:25.820 interpretation. That's, that's part of the matter. And if it's open to interpretation,
00:12:31.580 then who gets to decide what is moral behavior and immoral behavior. And if it's conflated and
00:12:37.700 confused and nobody knows what it means, and everybody has a different idea of morality,
00:12:42.040 that's a problem, right? Now I will say that certain things are, uh, societally, uh, accepted
00:12:49.360 within different cultures, right? We all have different cultures, whether you're listening to
00:12:53.100 this in the U S or listening to this, uh, from abroad, uh, even States, even counties have different
00:12:58.900 culturally acceptable behaviors, but that's not morality. That's just certain behaviors that don't
00:13:04.420 play that big into the grand scheme of things. Morality is not subjective. It's objective. It
00:13:09.260 comes from a higher power, a higher source. And because it comes from a higher power and a higher
00:13:15.400 source, uh, it does not, it is not subject to interpretation and it does not change. It is a
00:13:23.120 standard. Everybody knows good from bad, right from wrong, good and evil. We all know it. We're
00:13:30.760 inherently born with it. And we also have the capacity to, uh, to exhibit both, to, to act on
00:13:37.380 both good and bad. We have that capacity within us, which is why we all make bad mistakes at times.
00:13:43.180 And we, hopefully the idea is that we feel bad about that. Right. And if you don't feel bad about
00:13:48.420 that, I would argue that it has less to do with some sort of, uh, societal or cultural conditioning
00:13:54.960 and more to do with something that's going on within your state of mind, that maybe there was
00:14:00.340 some, some neglect or some abuse or some trauma or some mental illness, uh, that's keeping you from
00:14:06.980 having this idea of objective morality. Again, we all know what it is. We know right from wrong.
00:14:13.820 And I would argue that if we can't come do some sort of mutual agreement about what is and is not
00:14:21.520 moral behavior, it's going to be very difficult for us to operate, to work together, to want to help
00:14:27.920 each other move in the same direction. We have to have some sort of standard. And this is that moral
00:14:32.080 authority. Uh, number two is to undermine the nuclear family. If you look at the statistics, more and 0.87
00:14:38.740 more children are being born out of wedlock, more young men and women are deciding not to get married.
00:14:44.560 And we can talk at length about why that is. I know there's a lot of guys, uh, who listened to
00:14:49.260 this podcast to believe that marriage is a failed institution, or they say things like, I don't need
00:14:54.300 the government in my business telling me because I have a document or a piece of paper that I'm
00:14:58.860 committed to somebody. I actually agree with that one. I think the government has no say, or should have
00:15:04.100 no involvement in the marriage process at all. That's a decision between a mutually consenting
00:15:09.740 man and a woman. Uh, but the government's got involved in as they seem to do with just about 0.95
00:15:14.660 anything, they've made it difficult and challenging and, uh, created a lot of, uh, contention and
00:15:19.860 problems for people. So that's not what I'm saying here. What I'm talking about is being committed to,
00:15:25.660 uh, a woman. And it's easy to say I'm committed to, but I'm talking about genuinely being committed to
00:15:31.440 and a marriage ceremony being married. The process is, uh, one example of how you illustrate and
00:15:39.720 manifest and communicate the fact that you are committed to this one, this one woman. Uh, but 0.77
00:15:45.000 I genuinely believe that there is an attack and an undermining of the nuclear family. And it's done 1.00
00:15:50.540 through a lot of different ways. The family court system is certainly stacked against men. You see
00:15:54.940 more of these children going with mom. And in certain cases that makes sense. In other cases,
00:15:59.180 it certainly does not, but this happens all the time. And I feel like if the government and, uh,
00:16:06.060 well, primarily the government can control, uh, or, or, or take away this idea of the nuclear family,
00:16:14.860 then they're going to have an easier time manipulating and getting into some of these
00:16:20.500 other strategies that I'm going to talk with you about today. So the nuclear family is critical
00:16:25.240 because it represents the last unit, or I should say maybe even the fundamental, one of the fundamental
00:16:31.660 units, cause there's you individually, but one of the fundamental, fundamental units of society.
00:16:36.700 This is where our young children, our little boys and our little girls learn. They learn from dad and
00:16:41.180 they learn from mom about how to behave. They learn how to be an example. They learned what to look for
00:16:46.400 in a partner. They learn about life and they learn about spirituality and they learn about
00:16:51.720 all sorts of things that will put them on the right foot in order to go on and to achieve and to live
00:16:58.780 the life that they want. And this individuality, uh, is fostered through the family, right? And here's the
00:17:05.920 threat to, to the government, right? The higher powers that be, when we're talking about destroying
00:17:10.000 society, the threat is if you have all these little nuclear pockets, families operating independently 0.89
00:17:16.400 of each other, telling each other different things, having different virtues, uh, thinking
00:17:21.320 different things are important, learning different ideas, uh, wanting to pursue life, liver, liberty
00:17:26.740 and the pursuit of happiness. Well, that represents a threat, right? Because they're not in alignment
00:17:31.420 with what the government would have you believe. So there is a clear, clear mission to undermine
00:17:38.180 the nuclear family and replace mom and dad through the school system, through the family core system,
00:17:44.160 through child protective services, to replace mom and dad with another parent. That is, uh, not as
00:17:52.240 conducive as mom and dad, a healthy, uh, nuclear family would be. So guys, we've got to fight for
00:17:59.100 our families to provide the solution. We've got to fight for our families. And not only do we have to
00:18:03.340 fight for our families and, and, and step into the men that we have a desire to be, and then lead our
00:18:07.820 wives and lead our children well, but we need to do that in our communities as well, because I can't tell 0.96
00:18:12.580 you how often I come across young men, uh, specifically through my work in, in church
00:18:17.680 organizations and through coaching where I see young boys who don't have a father figure and
00:18:24.420 they're led astray and they're tossed to and fro with any sort of, uh, doctrine that may be presented
00:18:30.120 to them, whether it's founded in truth or not. Uh, we have a very serious moral obligation and
00:18:36.380 responsibility to step up in the lives of the people within the walls of our home. And also the lives of
00:18:41.400 the people who are not in our home, our neighborhood, our communities. And then we
00:18:46.140 continue to branch outward and outward so that we can help these young men and young women in the
00:18:50.460 absence of a healthy nuclear family. We can be that we can be that example, not to the degree
00:18:56.560 a nuclear family could be, and certainly won't replace that. But if you can invite a young boy 0.91
00:19:01.280 over because he's friends with your son or a little girl over, cause she's friends with your daughter
00:19:05.300 and you can show a healthy example of how this is supposed to work. The nuclear family,
00:19:09.720 can you imagine what kind of impact that will have on that child who doesn't have that in any other
00:19:14.460 context, in any other capacity? It's very, very important that we maintain the integrity of the
00:19:18.940 nuclear family. All right. Number three, uh, this is the next strategy is to eliminate both men and 0.79
00:19:26.500 women from the home. So we've talked about the nuclear family. The next component is to eliminate 1.00
00:19:31.120 men and women from the home altogether. Now this with men is as old as time. Frankly, the men have 0.95
00:19:37.660 always gone off to war and they've left the families, but a lot of it has, was also perpetuated
00:19:43.200 through the rise of the industrial revolution. And inevitably, when I talk about this, somebody
00:19:47.900 complains about it and says, well, what would you have us do go back to the dark ages? No,
00:19:51.640 of course not. I'm just stating a problem so that we can look for a healthy solution. And the problem
00:19:57.560 is, is that men during the industrial revolution were taken away. I shouldn't say taken away.
00:20:03.920 Uh, they left, they left the farm, the family farm where little Timmy, Tommy, and Susie were
00:20:09.560 learning from dad. Cause he was there. They left the farm. They went into the cities and they started
00:20:14.300 working at the factories. They left early in the morning before the kids were out of bed.
00:20:18.300 And then they got home late at night before the, or excuse me, after the children went back to bed.
00:20:23.400 So dad's no longer in the picture. Now dad's out of the picture. Then we have the rise of the
00:20:28.400 feminist movement, which in a lot of ways started as a healthy movement, you know, to give women equal 0.79
00:20:33.180 rights and some opportunities that they did not have before. And I can certainly get behind some
00:20:37.940 of that. But the problem was, is that, uh, they were told women were told that you are not equal,
00:20:44.280 or you are not as important because you're staying home with little Timmy and little Tommy and little
00:20:48.940 Susie while your husband is out here in the workforce and he's providing real value. See, he's being
00:20:55.680 valuable and you're not. So the feminist movement started not really from the perspective, 0.94
00:21:01.820 part of it was to help women. But another part of it was to undermine how valuable they were 0.72
00:21:06.440 as, as mothers, as wives, as homemakers. Fortunately, my wife is a homemaker. And I say
00:21:12.960 that proudly. And she says that proudly as well, because there is no greater calling than being a
00:21:18.040 mother, then helping lead in the home, then turning a house into a home and being the maker of this home. 0.57
00:21:24.440 She says that proudly, but she has been undermined as long as she can remember, because she's been told
00:21:30.200 that that isn't as valuable as you going out into the workforce and you doing what men do.
00:21:34.820 Can women do what men do in a lot of contexts? Yes, they can. Should they, or do they need to, 0.99
00:21:40.720 in order to be valuable? Of course not. Of course not. Equality isn't, doesn't mean that everybody's
00:21:46.940 doing the exact same thing. There's we're equal in worth equal and worth. Although we may be filling
00:21:52.300 different roles generally, right? So we have this feminist movement that said, okay, women, 1.00
00:21:57.460 you're not as valuable because you're in the workforce, or excuse me, you're at home. You need
00:22:01.980 to go out into the workforce. And so the women bought into this and they left their home and they 1.00
00:22:05.920 went out into the workforce where they thought they would find fulfillment because they, that's what
00:22:09.780 they were told. You'd find value and fulfillment here. And then they left little Tommy and little Susie
00:22:15.300 and little Timmy, I think is the other child I named here. They left them at home and they thought,
00:22:20.260 what are we going to do? What are we going to do with, with the kids? Well, I know let's ship them
00:22:25.040 off to these, these little factories, these little mini factories where we can train them
00:22:29.160 and turn them into robots. They'll color within the lines. They'll start to obey. They'll do what
00:22:33.980 they're told. They'll learn what to think, not how to think that's what we'll do. And so they shipped
00:22:38.040 them off to these government education centers that we would call schools, right now, mom and dad are out
00:22:43.640 of the home. Now the kids are in school and they're learning from the powers that would be everything
00:22:49.340 that they need to learn in order to be good cogs in the wheel. Guys, we've got to stay as involved
00:22:55.300 as we possibly can at home. We need a mother and a father at home, raising little Timmy, Tommy, and
00:23:01.900 Susie, teaching them the right things, teaching them the way the world works, being involved in their
00:23:07.160 sports outings, being involved even in their schooling. We do homeschool, but if you have your
00:23:12.000 child at a school, but being involved in that, right, doing homework with them, asking about
00:23:18.300 their day, learning what's going on, because it is becoming increasingly difficult to have a mom and
00:23:25.680 a dad at home, one or both, not out of the home. We're in a fortunate position where my wife's a 0.92
00:23:32.640 homemaker and I work here in my office at our home, but it's becoming increasingly difficult. So you need to
00:23:38.560 find a way to become valuable. We've talked about that. We've talked about that last week or two weeks
00:23:43.100 ago. We've talked about it at length over the past five years, the more valuable you are, the more, and
00:23:48.120 I'm talking about it, the context of career, the more money you'll make, which will afford you the
00:23:52.440 opportunities for potentially mom to stay at home or kids to be at home and to potentially do
00:23:58.980 homeschooling. A lot of different opportunities come because you've decided to become a man of value.
00:24:03.360 We cannot let mom and dad ourselves be stripped and ripped away from the home.
00:24:08.560 We have to stay present. We have to stay involved. All right. Number four, this one really gets under
00:24:14.240 my skin, but number four, as far as a strategy from the playbook to destroy society is champion 0.87
00:24:19.060 victimhood as a virtue. I mean, all you need to do is look around for just one second and you'll see
00:24:26.720 how quickly and how prevalent it is to champion victimhood as some sort of noble virtue that we
00:24:34.180 should all pursue. And people have victimhood races, meaning they're racing to see and compete
00:24:39.120 on who is the greatest victim. You know, like who has the most difficult situation and who has the
00:24:45.380 most hardship and who was victimized by some other person or some other class the most. And the more
00:24:51.200 they perpetuate this conversation, the more that we buy into the idea that, that being a victim alone
00:24:58.280 is a virtue. It's not, it's not virtuous. It's unfortunate, right? If you truly are a victim
00:25:03.780 of a crime or discrimination or something that's unfortunate. I'm not saying it isn't, but it's
00:25:09.680 certainly not a virtue. Virtue is found in overcoming being a victim. Virtue is found in rising above your
00:25:17.600 current state. You know, we hear a lot about things like male privilege, for example. Well, what would you
00:25:23.860 have me do? What would you have the millions of men who listen to this podcast do not, not be men?
00:25:30.740 Actually, that's, that's probably what the objective is, but you can't do that. All right. And, and besides
00:25:38.020 male privilege, it doesn't exist. Like we all have hardships. Men have some of the same hardships. Men
00:25:44.100 have harder circumstances. In many cases, men have different circumstances that are challenging,
00:25:50.800 not the same, but challenging all the same. And all of us need to rise up. All of us have the
00:25:55.400 opportunity because we haven't completely implemented this playbook to destroy society just yet. But guys,
00:26:01.000 we cannot let ourselves believe that if we have been victimized, that somehow we are virtuous,
00:26:08.560 that somehow we're honorable or noble or capable. You're not, you're not. So how do you combat this?
00:26:15.480 You take an extreme ownership mindset coined by Jocko willing, who we've had on the podcast,
00:26:20.780 I believe four times now. Okay. Extreme ownership. And by the way, I'm not saying take blame for things
00:26:27.800 that you shouldn't be taking blame for, but are there areas of your life where you can take
00:26:31.960 responsibility for? Because if you take responsibility, you'll start to see yourself improve. That's the
00:26:37.960 nature of responsibility as you improve. And as you take more responsibility on and give yourself the
00:26:44.380 power to change your life, to do something about your career situation or your family dynamic,
00:26:49.000 or who you are as an individual, your fitness, any facet of life, the more success that you're going
00:26:53.820 to see, right? And because you see more success, you're going to start doing more of the activities
00:26:58.820 that got you there. And then you're also going to teach others, right? Like for example, you can't
00:27:03.880 teach your children, uh, how to succeed and take ownership. If you're not doing that, that yourself,
00:27:08.620 but if you're taking ownership of your life, then you're going to ask that they take ownership of theirs.
00:27:12.720 Great. A great example here is over the weekend. I had my two oldest sons. Uh, they were wrestling
00:27:19.760 and my, my second son, he was very disappointed. He took third, uh, in his weight division. And he,
00:27:26.860 he, I see it, saw him got a little teary-eyed. He started to cry. And I said, why are you crying?
00:27:30.740 And he says, I'm, I'm angry that I didn't win more matches. And I said, well, that's, that's good.
00:27:37.280 It's, it's actually anger is the right, the right response. You know, it means you care about it.
00:27:43.960 It means it's important to you. So it's okay to be angry. And he says, well, dad, I just,
00:27:47.720 I don't want to feel bad. I don't want to feel bad about this or be angry. And I simply said,
00:27:52.380 what are you going to do about it? He says, I'm going to get better. I'm going to get better.
00:27:56.820 And he said it with so much clarity and so much pride in his voice. And he looked right at me when he
00:28:01.520 said it. And I just thought, man, this kid is learning. Well, he understands that you can't
00:28:09.260 place a bunch of burden of responsibility on other people. You know, could he have said the ref or the
00:28:13.760 conditioning or, or his coat? I mean, yes, he could have said a thousand things, but instead he simply
00:28:18.180 said, I'm going to get better. And this is a kid who is going to get better. How do I know? Because
00:28:23.060 this is what he continues to do in other areas of his life. And he will do it here. My oldest son,
00:28:27.840 he didn't have a great performance at all last night or yesterday. And he said, dad, I I'm just,
00:28:33.860 I'm really discouraged. Cause I asked him about this stuff. He says, I'm really discouraged.
00:28:37.440 I'm really frustrated with it. And I said, yeah, I understand it. He's like, those kids weren't even
00:28:42.440 in my same weight. One of them was 15 pounds heavier than me. And he started to come up with
00:28:46.680 some other things. And I said, stop, stop right there. I don't want to hear your excuses. I said,
00:28:52.920 do you think you could have beat him? He says, yeah, I probably could have. And I said, exactly.
00:28:56.520 So the 15 pounds heavier may have been a reason, but it's not an excuse. Now you've got to get
00:29:01.560 better. So you can see how even like my children, they fall into it. I fall into it. Like it's so
00:29:06.800 easy to blame your boss or your wife or the economy or your coworker or whoever or whatever for your
00:29:14.880 lack of results. Although that might have something to do with it. It is not solely other people or
00:29:22.920 external circumstances. It's you. And the more you can take ownership of your life and reject
00:29:29.100 completely reject and be repulsed by the idea that being a victim is virtuous, the better off you're
00:29:37.400 going to be. And the better off the people in your life are going to be because they're going to see
00:29:40.680 the way that you lead. All right. Number five, diminish the distinction between sexes. And by the way, 0.50
00:29:48.120 to tie this all back together, the article that I shared earlier about all masculinity being toxic
00:29:53.260 ties into just about every one of these, but it definitely falls in line with this, right?
00:29:57.980 Diminish the distinction between the sexes. If everybody's the same, nobody matters, right? If all 0.99
00:30:04.700 we are is robots, just chunks of meat walking around, doing what we're supposed to be doing,
00:30:12.400 feeding the machine, feeding the machine, if you will, then nobody matters. Everybody's replaceable
00:30:18.280 and nobody matters. Well, you know, as well as I do that you are not replaceable, that I am not
00:30:26.180 replaceable in certain elements of life. Sure. For example, if I wasn't doing this podcast or something
00:30:31.640 happened or I died tomorrow, you guys would replace this podcast with something else. So there's certain
00:30:36.380 elements of life that yes, I'm replaceable, but I'm not replaceable as a husband. I'm not replaceable
00:30:41.700 as a father. I'm not replaceable to a lot of the friends that I interact with on a daily basis.
00:30:47.340 And I'm not the same as everybody else. Besides, I don't really want to be a woman. There's elements 0.98
00:30:54.040 of being a woman that I'm not interested in. Childbearing, for example, doesn't interest me 1.00
00:31:00.020 at all. Just like any sane man, I'm sure not interested in it. Are women uniquely qualified and 1.00
00:31:07.780 capable of doing that? You better believe they are. Cause I've watched my wife bring four children
00:31:12.720 into the world. And I can tell you that she is strong in ways that I am not. And I imagine all
00:31:18.880 of you who have children would feel very much the same way. And guess what? I am strong in ways that
00:31:24.620 she is not. That is not pose a risk to her and her being strong in ways that I'm not, does not pose a
00:31:29.680 risk to me. In fact, it's good that we're together because I have weaknesses. She has weaknesses.
00:31:34.080 I have strengths. She has strengths. And we work together to shore up those weaknesses and solidify
00:31:39.260 those strengths. Man and a woman work very well together, not just mentally, not just emotionally
00:31:46.860 and spiritually, but physically as well. Do we need to look any farther than the physical attributes
00:31:51.640 that men and women have? It's almost as if we, I don't know, fit together like it's supposed to be.
00:31:58.940 This is how it works guys. And the more that we diminish, uh, the distinction between the sexes,
00:32:05.960 the more that we're going to be led to believe that all of us are the same, that masculinity
00:32:10.080 doesn't matter, that femininity doesn't matter, that men don't matter, that women don't matter. 1.00
00:32:14.000 And we subject ourselves to all sorts of potential threats because that's the case. So instead of
00:32:19.500 saying that a woman is a man, let's celebrate women for being women. Let's honor who they are, 0.60
00:32:25.860 what they do, their contributions to society, their contributions to their family and every
00:32:30.360 other element of their life. Let's honor and celebrate what it means to be a man. Let's be
00:32:35.160 the most capable men that we can possibly be. So others see us and think, man, I'm sure glad that
00:32:40.080 I have Ryan around or John or Steve or Joe around because they are capable. They're good leaders.
00:32:47.600 They're presiding. They're protecting us. They're protecting the tribe. They're providing for us in
00:32:52.240 ways that maybe we wouldn't be able to do on our own. It's not a threat. All right. A man is not
00:32:57.580 a threat to a woman. A woman is not a, I should say that generally. Okay. Men collectively are not
00:33:03.400 threatening to women. Women collectively are not threatening to men. You guys get the idea.
00:33:07.960 So let's, instead of celebrating this or diminishing the distinction between the sexes,
00:33:13.720 let's celebrate the distinction between the sexes and be thankful and grateful that there is a
00:33:19.460 distinction that we are different, that we're unique and that women are beautiful and lovely
00:33:24.160 and that men are capable and strong. That's important. All right. Next number six is make
00:33:30.740 people dependent on the state. All right. Because now you're incapable, right? If you become a victim,
00:33:36.140 you've celebrated victimhood as a virtue. Now you need somebody to come rescue you, right? Because you
00:33:41.580 can't do it on your own. You're a victim, right? And the victim is weak. He can't do it on his own.
00:33:47.000 So what does he need? He needs somebody to come in to rescue. Lo and behold, here comes the
00:33:52.120 government to rescue us from all of our woes and our problems and our challenges. Many of which were
00:33:57.660 created by that government in the first place, right? So now we're going to rescue you. And what
00:34:02.800 happens to a wounded animal when he's caged for too long, they can't reintroduce him to society,
00:34:12.080 which is actually the point now, because you can't be reintroduced to society because you have
00:34:17.600 no skills, no mindset for growth. Now you are forever, forever enslaved and indebted to the
00:34:24.700 institution that would love nothing more than for you to do what you're told at all times, to be as
00:34:31.500 effective and productive for the new parents, which are not dad and mom, which is the government,
00:34:37.560 the state. This is an issue guys. So how do we make people less dependent on the state by teaching
00:34:46.040 them, by educating them, by allowing our children and the people under our care to experience the
00:34:52.600 consequences of their poor choices in environments that won't completely destroy them. This is
00:34:59.200 important. They have to learn it young. I let my kids experience consequences for their decisions,
00:35:03.920 because if I don't, then they won't ever be able to make the positive and healthy connection of
00:35:10.700 consequence and action, or excuse me, action consequence. You guys get the idea, right?
00:35:18.100 This action produces this healthy consequence. This poor action produces this poor, unhealthy
00:35:27.160 consequence. It's important. They make that connection. And it's our job as parents to make
00:35:31.460 that connection for them. It's the same thing when it comes to sports to go back to what I was talking
00:35:35.360 about earlier with the wrestling, we give all of our children participation trophies and let them
00:35:40.060 think they did some wonderful thing just by showing up and use cute little phrases like showing up is half 0.76
00:35:44.720 the battle, which it's not, by the way, it's not even the battle. Like you got to the battle, you got
00:35:49.560 to the battlefield, but you haven't put your armor on yet. You haven't picked up your shield or your
00:35:53.820 weapon yet. Like you're at the battlefield. That's what showing up is. So it's not half of anything.
00:35:58.640 You got to get in the fight. Anyways, I'm digressing here. The point is, is to allow the people under
00:36:05.960 your care, whether that's your employees, your teammates, coworkers, your kids to experience the
00:36:12.480 full weight of the choices they make so that they will make better choices moving forward. And also
00:36:17.720 I would suggest that you connect the dots, right? You can't just punish somebody. Let's just talk
00:36:21.440 about in the context of your children. If you just punish your kids, but you never really explain why,
00:36:25.620 then that's a problem. I actually, it's the same way with training dogs. My friend, Mike Ritland
00:36:30.760 would actually attest to this as well. If you have a dog that does something that it shouldn't
00:36:34.820 be doing, I don't even think he encourages any sort of negative reinforcement, just positive
00:36:39.460 reinforcement, but let's just use this as an example. You have a dog that pees in the room,
00:36:44.800 for example, and then you don't say anything to the dog and you don't let that dog know that
00:36:48.880 there's a problem here, but three hours later or next day you come and you beat the dog.
00:36:55.280 Like, is that dog going to actually know why it's, it's, it's being abused right now? Of course not.
00:37:01.800 And by the way, I'm not advocating for abusing animals. Okay. I better say that. Of course not.
00:37:06.860 The dog's not going to know. Same thing with children. If you blow up later, a week later about
00:37:12.580 something that happened, we do this to our wives too. We blow up a week later about something that
00:37:16.280 happened a year ago. And she's not going to make the connection. The kids are not going to make
00:37:21.920 the connection between the behavior and the consequence of that behavior. And again, I'm
00:37:28.740 saying this, I'm not likening children and our wives to animals either. Sad. I need to say this
00:37:34.780 stuff. Maybe I don't need to say this to you guys, but there's always going to be somebody listening,
00:37:38.080 listening, who thinks that's exactly what I'm doing. I'm not. Of course, obviously I'm not.
00:37:42.620 So anyways, point number six is from the playbook, from the strategy to destroy society is make people
00:37:49.340 dependent on the state. All right. We have to be independent of the state. I talk about this in
00:37:52.920 the book, sovereignty, the battle for the hearts and minds of men. We need to be independent in all
00:37:56.840 ways, healthy, financially stable, able to communicate, able to hold down a job, able to
00:38:01.700 excel. All of these areas are very, very crucial. And if you want more than just subscribe to the
00:38:05.920 podcast is because this is what we're talking about every single week, how to make ourselves more
00:38:09.720 capable, more independent, dare I say more sovereign so that we can control our own lives
00:38:15.240 and our own destinies. And we don't need the handout of other people might feel good. It might
00:38:19.120 be tempting, might be really nice, but I'm telling you every time that you, uh, that you accept a
00:38:24.460 handout, you put a little brick around you. And eventually that brick wall grows and grows and
00:38:28.920 grows until you are too late. And you find yourself imprisoned by those who were giving you what you
00:38:34.360 thought were free handouts. Everything comes with a string attached. Be very aware of that.
00:38:39.620 Number seven guys, number seven, indoctrinate the children. All right. Once you've removed moral
00:38:44.780 authority, or at least you've made it subjective, you've undermined the nuclear family. You've
00:38:50.440 eliminated men and women from the home. You've championed victimhood as a virtue. You've diminished
00:38:55.640 the distinction between the sexes and you've made people dependent on the state. Now you get to
00:39:01.280 indoctrinate the children because there's nothing in the way. And we see this all the time. All the
00:39:07.060 time. We see this, especially in the school system. Uh, my kids are homeschooled, but I went into a
00:39:11.680 school the other day, uh, for the, for the wrestling match. And I saw a very interesting series of posters
00:39:16.920 on the wall. And it said, we accept all genders. The next poster said we accept all, uh, social or excuse
00:39:23.720 me, uh, sexual orientations. Uh, we accept all races. We accept all fill in the blank cultures. We accept
00:39:31.820 all whatever. Okay. They accept everybody, which is what they should have said, right? We accept and embrace
00:39:38.680 everybody, right? That that's all encompassing. We don't actually need to break it down. There's weird things
00:39:46.360 going on in the school system. And it's designed to implement these other six strategies to undermine
00:39:53.880 and destroy society. It's unfortunate. So what do we do about this? I will say this, that all teaching
00:40:01.880 of children could be considered indoctrination. Cause this is actually one that I get a lot
00:40:06.840 right. Doctrine. You're teaching them a doctrine, a principle, whether you're teaching from the Bible
00:40:11.640 or from your own mind and experiences, it's a doctrine, right? It's a way of living.
00:40:15.960 So people will say, well, Ryan, you know, you talk about not indoctrinating the children,
00:40:20.040 but isn't that exactly what you're doing to your kids when you teach them? Yes. Correct.
00:40:25.400 That is exactly what I'm doing that and doing. And the reason I'm doing that is because I want them
00:40:30.200 to have sure footing. I want them to have a foundation that has proven to work time in and time out,
00:40:37.320 not only for me, but for millions and millions and potentially even billions of people across the
00:40:43.080 planet. That's what I want them to have. And by the way, that is my responsibility. It's my
00:40:49.400 opportunity as a father, because I have a leadership position with my children. Like it's my responsibility
00:41:00.280 to teach them what I know it's not anybody else's responsibility. So I would actually highly
00:41:05.800 encourage that you take a look at homeschooling. And if you're not ready to go that route, which
00:41:10.200 is becoming increasingly viable, then you better damn well be involved in their education process.
00:41:15.000 And you better ask them about their day and you better ask what they're learning. And you better
00:41:18.680 be very, very present with them because if you're not teaching them, they're being taught by who?
00:41:25.000 I don't know. That's the problem. If you don't know what your children are being taught or one year,
00:41:29.560 they're learning this. And one year they're learning that you are being systematically replaced
00:41:34.920 as their guardian, their parent. Yes. But their guardian, their guardian is there to protect them,
00:41:41.320 right? Not shield them from everything. Cause we talked about the consequence of choices,
00:41:45.160 but to protect your children, to give them the tools and the resources and guidance and direction
00:41:50.440 they need to thrive and flourish in life. And if you're not teaching them, somebody else is
00:41:55.880 indoctrinating them with false doctrine, with information that is not going to serve them well. In fact,
00:42:01.720 if anything, it's going to undermine and destroy their liberty, their freedom, their ability to
00:42:08.440 worship the way they see fit, to pursue the things that are meaningful, engaging to them.
00:42:12.200 And they're going to live an inferior life because they've been indoctrinated to believe some of this
00:42:16.200 nonsense. This is very much the same reason why I think so many children, young, young, even young
00:42:22.600 college students are being seem to be like for, for socialism and, and, uh, and market Marxism and
00:42:29.480 communism. It's like, how do people believe this? They've been raised in an education system that has
00:42:35.400 taught that they need to be dependent on the state. Like, why would they not believe that?
00:42:39.320 Guys, we need to combat this stuff, right? It's very scary. It's very dangerous. And it's going to
00:42:44.600 continue to get worse unless we discuss these things, unless we have these conversations. So
00:42:50.760 let's continue to have these conversations. Now I know people are going to say, Ryan,
00:42:54.120 you focused all on the negative and everything else. Yeah, I did. I talked a lot about the negative,
00:42:58.200 but I hope I provided some solutions as well. I'm not going to be silent about this stuff anymore.
00:43:03.160 And I think it's important that you don't be silent. We hear a lot about the, uh, the, the silent
00:43:07.560 majority. Well, why, why are we letting the vocal minority dictate what the majority should be doing?
00:43:15.960 I don't think that's a healthy way to approach it. I think the 80, 90 or more percent of us who
00:43:21.080 think very much the same way, even though you don't agree with maybe everything, but you think
00:43:25.320 generally the same, you're on the same page. You get this stuff trying to implement this stuff in your
00:43:29.560 life. It's time that we'd be vocal about it so that we can change the tide. We can, we can turn the
00:43:35.960 direction or turn the ship into a more effective, productive solution, which is
00:43:42.040 reclaiming and restoring masculinity, stepping up to be protectors, providers, presiders to
00:43:47.240 incorporate some more common sense back into our lives and really lead the way that we have a desire
00:43:52.200 to lead and be the men that we have a desire to be. Okay. So let's finish the, uh, let's not finish,
00:43:56.760 but let's continue to have the conversation. I want to talk with you guys about, uh, this and
00:44:01.560 anything else that you guys want to address. So if you're watching this on YouTube,
00:44:04.680 drop some comments below, let me know, Hey, I agree with this. I don't agree with this.
00:44:07.880 Let's do it respectfully, but let's have a discourse and a conversation about this.
00:44:10.840 Uh, maybe there's some other points that you think you want to make, uh, or connect with me on
00:44:15.080 Instagram, Facebook, or Twitter. I think if you're watching the video, it's below. I think you can see
00:44:20.200 my, uh, my social media profiles are all at Ryan Michler. My last name is spelled M I C H L E R.
00:44:27.000 I hope to see you there and hope to, uh, be able to engage in respectful conversation with you.
00:44:30.840 So again, playbook to destroy society. And I gave you some strategy to overcome number one,
00:44:34.520 removing moral authority. Number two, undermine the nuclear family. Number three, 0.99
00:44:38.280 eliminate men and women from the home. Number four, champion victimhood as a virtue. Number five, 0.96
00:44:43.160 diminish, uh, the distinction between sexes. Number six, make people dependent on the state.
00:44:47.560 And number seven, indoctrinate the youth. There it is guys. Let's combat this. Let's fight against this.
00:44:53.720 Band with me with order of men. That's what we're doing here. And, uh, share this with somebody who
00:44:59.000 needs to hear it because, uh, more people certainly need to hear it and apply the information into
00:45:03.400 their lives. All right, guys, we'll call it a day. We'll be back next week for an interview.
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00:45:11.560 And, uh, we'll catch you next week until then go out there, take action and become the man you are meant to be.
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