Order of Man - The Seven Masculine Archetypes ｜ FRIDAY FIELD NOTES

00:00:00.000 My intention today, guys, was to give you these archetypes,

00:00:03.400 not to pigeonhole you into being one or the other

00:00:05.840 or all this or all that or a combination of.

00:00:08.260 It's just so you can start seeing how you view yourself

00:00:12.040 and how other people view you.

00:00:14.560 Now, I would challenge you to ask yourself,

00:00:16.600 where do you fall and where do you want to fall?

00:00:19.240 We're just looking at what our strengths and weaknesses are,

00:00:21.720 what categories we fall into,

00:00:23.340 how we can improve in one area

00:00:25.060 and how we can shore up the areas we're not so great at

00:00:27.320 so that we can be the well-rounded men

00:00:28.920 that people need us to be.

00:00:31.960 You're a man of action.

00:00:33.600 You live life to the fullest, embrace your fears,

00:00:36.240 and boldly chart your own path.

00:00:37.980 When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time, every time.

00:00:42.420 You are not easily deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient, strong.

00:00:47.500 This is your life. This is who you are.

00:00:50.000 This is who you will become.

00:00:51.740 At the end of the day, and after all is said and done,

00:00:54.760 you can call yourself a man.

00:00:56.680 Men, today I want to talk with you about seven masculine archetypes.

00:01:02.300 A lot of the information I'm going to share with you

00:01:03.860 is derived a little bit from the book

00:01:05.680 Warrior King, Magician Lover by Robert Moore and Douglas Gillette.

00:01:10.840 But we've adapted it and added some different archetypes in here

00:01:14.760 because I don't think that we all fit into one of those four categories.

00:01:19.140 And quite honestly, I don't think we all fit perfectly

00:01:21.580 into one of the seven categories that I'm going to give to you today.

00:01:25.240 Inevitably, when I talk about what it means to be a man and masculinity,

00:01:29.300 I'm often met with questions about the warrior archetype.

00:01:33.500 That if a man can't be a quote-unquote warrior, 0.71

00:01:35.800 does that make him any less of a man?

00:01:38.040 I think these archetypes, as I share them with you today,

00:01:40.580 will help articulate that question for you,

00:01:42.880 or at least the answer to that question,

00:01:45.000 and help you understand, in the absence of some of the skills

00:01:47.880 that we would generally attribute to manliness and masculinity,

00:01:51.420 there still are ways to incorporate your personality,

00:01:55.480 your style, and your archetype into a tool,

00:02:00.140 a useful tool to influence those people around you

00:02:04.420 in a positive and effective way.

00:02:06.420 So I'm going to share with you, again,

00:02:08.000 seven of the masculine archetypes that I've identified.

00:02:11.200 I'm also going to give you some examples,

00:02:13.600 some very well-known examples,

00:02:14.960 of the types of men and who exactly

00:02:17.220 would fit into each one of these archetypes.

00:02:21.500 And then we'll talk about the pros and the cons

00:02:24.040 and what each of these archetypes look like.

00:02:26.580 So let's get into it.

00:02:27.980 Before I get into the archetypes, though,

00:02:29.620 I do want to explain that as a man,

00:02:31.980 and this happens to be our motto,

00:02:33.480 you can see it over my right shoulder.

00:02:36.100 I think it's even on my hat.

00:02:37.920 Our motto is to protect, provide, preside.

00:02:40.880 And I think at the core of what it means to be a man

00:02:43.220 is to be just that, a protector, a provider, and a presider.

00:02:48.260 So if we break that down to protect physically,

00:02:51.660 mentally, emotionally, to protect our loved ones

00:02:54.060 and to take care of them, to provide for them,

00:02:57.000 financially, spiritually, emotionally,

00:03:00.020 and then to preside, which is synonymous with leadership,

00:03:03.060 leading them effectively, leading them righteously,

00:03:05.480 and helping those individuals under our care

00:03:07.840 get to a place they could not have imagined

00:03:09.780 going on their own.

00:03:11.120 That is what it means to be a man.

00:03:13.220 And a boy becomes a man

00:03:14.600 when he learns how to do that effectively,

00:03:16.840 when he learns how to harness

00:03:17.940 his masculine characteristics and traits

00:03:20.080 for productive outcomes

00:03:21.660 to protect, provide, and preside for other people.

00:03:25.280 Now, as we know that that is the foundation of,

00:03:29.780 at least I believe that's what it is,

00:03:32.100 and I think many of you listening would agree with that,

00:03:34.760 if that's the foundation of what it means to be a man,

00:03:37.360 to be a protector, a provider, and presider,

00:03:39.340 the question then is, how do you do that?

00:03:41.940 Well, there's a lot of different ways to do that.

00:03:43.860 And typically, when we think of what it means to be a man,

00:03:46.940 or we envision the quintessential man,

00:03:49.300 we think of two archetypes primarily,

00:03:51.540 and that is the king and the warrior.

00:03:53.780 And those are two that are predominantly masculine.

00:03:56.640 We're gonna talk about that, but there's five others.

00:03:58.780 So let's break this down.

00:04:00.320 Number one is the king.

00:04:02.560 The king is a visionary.

00:04:03.920 The king is somebody who knows exactly

00:04:05.880 where he's going to go.

00:04:06.880 He has a sense of obligation, responsibility,

00:04:12.000 and duty to lead people.

00:04:15.240 He knows where he wants to go.

00:04:17.720 He has a clear vision for what that looks like,

00:04:19.880 and he's able to articulate that in a very clear way.

00:04:24.140 These are the type of men that we wanna follow

00:04:26.240 because they have that visionary aspect.

00:04:29.060 And it seems, from where we sit,

00:04:31.480 that they have the mental, physical,

00:04:33.720 and emotional fortitude to do the difficult things

00:04:37.200 that most people are unwilling to do.

00:04:40.720 When we're on social media,

00:04:42.140 or when we're having discussions with friends,

00:04:44.120 a lot of men will cower.

00:04:45.880 A lot of men won't share how they really feel.

00:04:47.980 A lot of men will be more concerned

00:04:49.840 with making sure everybody is happy

00:04:51.640 and comfortable and complacent.

00:04:53.520 But a king knows exactly where he's going,

00:04:57.000 and he isn't afraid of offending people.

00:05:00.740 He isn't afraid of ostracizing people

00:05:03.240 that are not part of his quote-unquote kingdom.

00:05:06.440 He knows who his people are.

00:05:09.040 He knows how to serve them.

00:05:10.580 He knows how to communicate effectively with them.

00:05:12.760 And he uses all of the tools at his disposal

00:05:15.240 to lead from the front.

00:05:17.420 This is what a king is.

00:05:18.980 So if we're to look in culture today, relevant kings,

00:05:22.440 and I wanna throw this disclaimer out here,

00:05:24.600 some of the people that I suggest

00:05:27.100 and share with you today,

00:05:28.100 you're not going to agree with

00:05:31.040 or even appreciate the type of people they are.

00:05:34.600 But I don't think there's any doubt

00:05:36.200 if we look at this objectively

00:05:37.580 that these are the king archetypes.

00:05:40.600 Just because they're a king

00:05:41.980 doesn't mean we need to agree

00:05:43.580 with everything that individual has to say.

00:05:46.480 But again, they know who their people are,

00:05:49.140 and they know how to serve them

00:05:50.860 and take them to a place

00:05:52.500 that those people probably wouldn't go on their own.

00:05:54.580 So let's take a look at this.

00:05:55.540 Number one, Elon Musk.

00:05:57.060 He is a king archetype.

00:05:59.040 He's a visionary.

00:06:00.380 He's willing to take risks.

00:06:02.200 He's willing to explore new ideas.

00:06:04.280 Now, he's not the greatest communicator,

00:06:06.380 and I think that has to do with

00:06:07.840 the way his personality works

00:06:09.820 and the way his mind works,

00:06:11.060 that a lot of it goes on up here,

00:06:12.820 and his ability to communicate that effectively

00:06:14.600 isn't always as polished

00:06:16.460 as some of the other people

00:06:17.680 that I share with you today.

00:06:18.900 But he does know how to speak to his people.

00:06:22.740 He does know how to communicate to his people.

00:06:25.420 He does know how to get people on board

00:06:27.360 with what he's doing.

00:06:28.960 Now, make no mistake,

00:06:30.700 this is a polarizing figure,

00:06:32.220 especially since he bought Twitter,

00:06:34.440 which is now X.

00:06:35.400 He became more polarizing when he did that.

00:06:38.080 A king isn't worried about appeasing everybody

00:06:40.460 because a king's job

00:06:41.900 is not to make everybody comfortable.

00:06:44.020 A king's job is to serve his kingdom,

00:06:46.780 and Elon Musk knows who his kingdom is,

00:06:49.540 and so he serves those individuals

00:06:51.220 in spite of what everybody else might think of him.

00:06:55.100 Another person that comes to mind immediately

00:06:57.360 is Donald Trump.

00:06:58.940 He is a king archetype.

00:07:01.040 He's bold.

00:07:02.340 He's audacious.

00:07:03.560 Yes, he's brash,

00:07:04.580 and yes, we can debate his morals and principles

00:07:06.840 and all of that,

00:07:07.620 and certainly there's room for discussion there.

00:07:10.220 But there's no denying that he is a king archetype.

00:07:13.400 He's got a vision.

00:07:15.080 He's got the means to do it.

00:07:16.480 He's got the mental, the physical,

00:07:19.320 and emotional fortitude

00:07:20.520 to see things through to the end.

00:07:22.740 He isn't easily convinced

00:07:25.240 that his way isn't the best way

00:07:27.280 or that there's another way of doing it,

00:07:29.020 and we can debate the merits,

00:07:31.040 but I'm telling you what,

00:07:31.980 this is a man who's willing to take risks.

00:07:34.360 He knows who his people are,

00:07:35.980 MAGA, MAGA community, MAGA country, right?

00:07:38.640 He knows who they are,

00:07:40.020 and he knows how to speak directly to who they are.

00:07:42.980 And guys, if you're going to adopt this king mindset

00:07:46.140 or this king archetype,

00:07:47.920 then you need to be willing to identify

00:07:49.800 who your loyal people are

00:07:52.040 and speak to them directly.

00:07:54.440 If we look at it in the context of order of man,

00:07:57.140 I work with men.

00:07:59.720 So everything that I share and talk with you about

00:08:01.840 is fashioned knowing that

00:08:04.240 I'm gonna be communicating with men.

00:08:06.460 Now, there's plenty of women who listen, 1.00

00:08:08.080 and I'm grateful,

00:08:09.120 and I'm glad that we have women

00:08:10.380 who believe in what we're doing

00:08:11.520 to reclaim and restore masculinity,

00:08:13.500 but I'm not talking or speaking in a way

00:08:15.420 that resonates directly with them.

00:08:17.520 If they happen to find value, wonderful,

00:08:20.000 but I speak to men.

00:08:21.940 And so some people will say,

00:08:23.180 well, you're ostracizing members of the group.

00:08:24.960 I'm not ostracizing anybody.

00:08:27.100 I'm inclusive of the people

00:08:28.320 that I'm working to serve and lead,

00:08:30.420 and that's what kings do.

00:08:32.220 Another couple of examples that come to mind,

00:08:34.680 and I'm just using well-known examples.

00:08:36.980 I'd like you guys to take the characteristics

00:08:38.540 and the attributes and the virtues of these individuals

00:08:40.700 and really filter them through how you're showing up

00:08:43.440 and how the people in your lives are showing up,

00:08:45.580 bosses, family members, colleagues, coworkers,

00:08:48.800 friends, et cetera.

00:08:49.940 Another couple of people that come to mind,

00:08:51.940 Steve Jobs, the late Steve Jobs.

00:08:54.120 Obviously a visionary,

00:08:55.980 obviously willing to take risks,

00:08:58.100 obviously willing to rub people the wrong way.

00:09:01.060 Not that that was his intention necessarily,

00:09:03.360 but certainly willing to do it

00:09:04.640 in order to serve a greater mission.

00:09:07.200 And he knew how to inspire people

00:09:09.200 to buy into the vision that he had.

00:09:11.440 Another one that comes to mind is Jeff Bezos.

00:09:14.020 Same scenario.

00:09:16.000 Visionary, risk taker,

00:09:18.680 willing to put it on the line,

00:09:20.340 willing to express and share his beliefs and his ideas,

00:09:23.540 and then obviously creates this incredible empire.

00:09:26.420 And that's the underlying foundation

00:09:28.040 of what it means to be a king.

00:09:29.480 You are creating something bigger than yourself.

00:09:31.780 Elon Musk has Cybertruck and Tesla.

00:09:37.200 Well, I guess those are one in the same,

00:09:38.540 but Tesla, SpaceX, obviously X now.

00:09:41.760 He is building an empire.

00:09:43.780 We can see that.

00:09:44.440 Trump is building an empire.

00:09:46.760 We can see that with MAGA.

00:09:48.740 Steve Jobs built an empire.

00:09:50.920 My phone's not right here,

00:09:52.000 but I'm on an Apple computer.

00:09:53.920 I've got my Apple phone over there.

00:09:56.320 Millions and millions of men who listen to this podcast

00:09:58.280 have the same devices.

00:09:59.880 He's obviously passed away now,

00:10:01.420 but he built an empire.

00:10:03.480 Jeff Bezos with Amazon,

00:10:05.140 starting by trading used books online,

00:10:07.900 has built an empire.

00:10:09.160 This is what kings do.

00:10:10.660 And again, we don't have to agree with or like them,

00:10:13.920 but these are examples of what it means to be a king.

00:10:16.100 Let's move into the next one.

00:10:17.300 The next one is warrior.

00:10:18.680 And typically this is the quintessential man.

00:10:21.500 When I say think of a man's man,

00:10:23.820 most people would probably think of either the king

00:10:26.900 or somebody that falls into the warrior category.

00:10:30.020 There's incredible warriors.

00:10:31.900 Not that they're all warriors in that they've joined the military,

00:10:36.020 but they have this warrior mentality,

00:10:38.880 this warrior spirit.

00:10:40.620 They go out into the world and they protect.

00:10:43.680 They defend.

00:10:45.440 They're really,

00:10:46.200 they have a deep sense of obligation to protect their people,

00:10:50.060 to take care of,

00:10:51.020 to provide for their people.

00:10:52.580 And they're willing to risk themselves,

00:10:54.720 their own lives in many ways,

00:10:56.420 to embrace ideals,

00:10:58.360 to protect people who are less than capable of protecting themselves.

00:11:02.260 These are incredible,

00:11:03.640 incredible men.

00:11:04.340 A couple of that come to mind for me.

00:11:06.260 Number one,

00:11:06.820 Jocko Willink.

00:11:07.900 This is a man who obviously,

00:11:09.920 because of the nature of his work and career as a Navy SEAL

00:11:13.820 and a Navy SEAL commander,

00:11:15.460 this is somebody we can all agree,

00:11:17.440 again,

00:11:17.760 whether you like the guy or not is irrelevant,

00:11:19.880 but this is somebody we can all agree is a warrior.

00:11:23.980 He has a deep sense of duty and obligation.

00:11:27.620 He has a deep sense of belief of right and wrong,

00:11:32.620 good and evil.

00:11:33.960 And he's willing to stand for what he believes in so much so that he's

00:11:37.940 willing to lay his life down in order to defend and protect that ideal.

00:11:43.980 Another one that comes to mind.

00:11:45.460 And by the way,

00:11:45.900 some of these guys have been on the podcast.

00:11:47.440 Jocko has been on multiple times.

00:11:48.800 The other one I was going to mention is somebody like Cam Haynes.

00:11:51.640 Now,

00:11:51.940 Cam is not a veteran,

00:11:53.240 but Cam is an avid hunter.

00:11:55.460 If you guys follow Cam Haynes,

00:11:56.940 you know that he's a hunter.

00:11:58.680 This is the warrior mentality.

00:12:00.680 He goes out into the world.

00:12:02.200 He believes in what he's doing.

00:12:03.960 He provides for his friends and family.

00:12:06.220 He makes himself physically,

00:12:08.480 mentally,

00:12:08.840 and emotionally capable of doing his work.

00:12:11.240 And he goes and he gets the work done.

00:12:15.460 He goes out in the mountains and he's hiking.

00:12:18.020 He's running a marathon just about every single day.

00:12:21.480 This is a warrior mentality.

00:12:22.940 Another person that comes to mind is somebody like Bedros Koulian.

00:12:27.240 Again,

00:12:27.820 not a veteran,

00:12:29.500 an immigrant to this country,

00:12:30.940 and has created incredible organizations with Fit Body Bootcamp and Modern Day Night Project

00:12:37.100 and the Squire Program and the other programs that he's created.

00:12:41.800 But when you listen to somebody like Bedros, 1.00

00:12:43.980 you can clearly see that this is a warrior's heart.

00:12:47.420 He's somebody that has,

00:12:48.520 again,

00:12:48.660 a deep sense of moral conviction.

00:12:50.820 Somebody has a deeply seated belief in what is right and what is wrong.

00:12:54.680 And he cannot,

00:12:55.900 he refuses,

00:12:56.580 I don't even think it's in his DNA to sit back and let things happen

00:13:01.560 if it's something that is in conflict with his ideal of the way that he sees life.

00:13:08.900 So those are three great examples of warriors.

00:13:12.540 I'm just pulling a couple out that come to mind immediately for me.

00:13:15.580 Obviously,

00:13:15.900 there's a lot more.

00:13:17.220 But if you want to be a warrior,

00:13:18.660 you have to ask yourself,

00:13:20.000 do I have that moral conviction?

00:13:22.880 Do I have that clarity of right and wrong?

00:13:24.980 Am I willing to say and do what needs to be said and done in order to protect that ideal?

00:13:29.980 Am I willing to lay down my life?

00:13:32.020 Do I believe enough in this thing that I'm willing to lay down my life?

00:13:36.680 And am I a fighter?

00:13:38.400 Do I have that fighting soul?

00:13:42.260 Excuse me.

00:13:43.720 All right,

00:13:44.000 let's move to the next.

00:13:45.420 And by the way,

00:13:45.860 these are,

00:13:46.460 again,

00:13:46.920 we're talking about these seven archetypes.

00:13:49.060 Guys,

00:13:49.440 all of these can be masculine.

00:13:50.980 Again,

00:13:51.460 we're tying it back to the masculine ideal of being a protector,

00:13:56.280 a provider,

00:13:57.060 and a presider.

00:13:57.960 And all of these things can be done in each one of these archetypes.

00:14:01.420 Now,

00:14:02.040 I'm not going to say that these are always so black and white,

00:14:04.580 or that we fit perfectly into these labels that we create.

00:14:08.320 In fact,

00:14:08.640 it's not even my goal to label these men or even you.

00:14:12.360 It's my goal to help you see what masculinity looks like in various forms,

00:14:17.920 so that you can take your strengths and make those better.

00:14:20.920 And you can take your weaknesses and shore those up.

00:14:24.060 So let's move to the next one.

00:14:25.780 In warrior king,

00:14:26.780 magician lover.

00:14:27.820 I think they would talk a little bit about the magician.

00:14:30.100 Now I've opted to go with the term jester,

00:14:33.920 right?

00:14:34.200 The jester is an integral part of the community.

00:14:37.960 He keeps things light.

00:14:39.840 He keeps things fun.

00:14:41.720 He keeps things enjoyable.

00:14:43.040 We give the jester permission to say the things in jest.

00:14:48.740 That's where that,

00:14:49.440 that phrase comes from in jest that we ordinary civilians don't give

00:14:56.280 ourselves the same permission to say we have to have that outlet.

00:15:00.300 So this is the comedian.

00:15:02.340 This is the class clown.

00:15:04.120 This is somebody who likes to make people laugh and sees life as just a

00:15:08.960 process of enjoyable experiences and wants to have fun.

00:15:12.960 And wants to play and wants to go on adventure.

00:15:15.460 And these are crucial aspects of what it means to be a man.

00:15:18.680 And also I want to say that each one of these archetypes taken to the extreme

00:15:23.220 can be a real challenge.

00:15:26.320 The king,

00:15:27.400 for example,

00:15:27.940 becomes a tyrant.

00:15:30.500 Okay.

00:15:30.640 The warrior taken to the extreme becomes incapable of empathy and compassion and

00:15:35.700 kindness and understanding.

00:15:38.360 The jester taken to the extreme.

00:15:41.420 Can't take anything seriously.

00:15:43.400 He's sarcastic and irritable and moody.

00:15:47.740 And a lot of the times could even be unsuccessful because he's so worried about making light of

00:15:53.000 every situation that he,

00:15:55.460 he's not really applying himself the way that he otherwise could.

00:15:58.460 So it's important to know that this is a spectrum.

00:16:00.620 You have the jester,

00:16:01.360 but then you have somebody who's just the class clown and the idiot. 0.74

00:16:03.940 You have the king and then the tyrant.

00:16:05.860 You have the warrior taken to the extreme is also could be looked at as a tyrant or a warrior for

00:16:11.160 the other side against you.

00:16:12.660 Right?

00:16:12.980 So the jester who comes to mind in the jester category?

00:16:16.780 Well,

00:16:16.980 somebody like Theo Vaughn,

00:16:18.600 right?

00:16:19.780 Class clown,

00:16:21.200 funny.

00:16:22.380 He's,

00:16:22.900 he's even self deprecating.

00:16:24.600 He's willing to poke fun at himself.

00:16:26.600 My girlfriend and I about three weeks ago,

00:16:29.740 four weeks ago,

00:16:30.440 we're able to see Theo Vaughn live here in Southern Utah.

00:16:34.320 And he was always willing to poke fun at himself,

00:16:37.200 but he didn't just poke fun at himself.

00:16:39.000 He poked fun at everybody else and it breaks the tension.

00:16:43.680 It's the,

00:16:44.700 it's,

00:16:45.220 it's the outlet.

00:16:46.960 It's the vent that society needs in order to just not to take everything in life so

00:16:51.900 seriously and have some fun,

00:16:53.580 lighten up and laugh.

00:16:55.160 And we all like to laugh.

00:16:56.580 We all like to have fun.

00:16:57.860 We all like to enjoy life.

00:16:59.360 The jester is the person who makes it possible.

00:17:02.000 Another one that comes to mind that maybe you wouldn't initially think of is somebody

00:17:05.520 like Ryan Reynolds.

00:17:06.460 Obviously he's,

00:17:08.360 he's an actor.

00:17:09.540 He's very well known,

00:17:10.880 but he knows how to use comedy.

00:17:13.220 He knows comedic timing.

00:17:15.100 Again,

00:17:15.620 another guy who's self deprecating,

00:17:17.420 another guy who pokes fun at things that aren't always so convenient to laugh at.

00:17:23.940 He's willing to do that.

00:17:25.260 You know,

00:17:25.520 if you've seen the movie Deadpool,

00:17:26.920 and I think there's a new movie Deadpool versus Wolverine or Deadpool and Wolverine.

00:17:31.620 I don't know what it is,

00:17:32.240 but I can rest assured knowing that Ryan Reynolds is going to be the sarcastic,

00:17:38.780 funny Deadpool that all of us already know.

00:17:43.140 Okay.

00:17:43.300 So another person that comes to mind is somebody like Dave Chappelle.

00:17:46.800 Again,

00:17:47.400 very funny.

00:17:49.140 Uses comedy too.

00:17:50.740 And what I really appreciate about somebody like Dave Chappelle is Dave actually tackles

00:17:55.220 real challenging societal issues that are always a little bit confronting,

00:18:02.240 always a little bit polarizing and challenging.

00:18:05.100 Dave does this in a very,

00:18:06.520 very good way.

00:18:07.040 And again,

00:18:07.360 we can debate and talk about whether or not we agree with his opinions,

00:18:10.460 but you cannot debate that he falls into the gesture archetype.

00:18:14.460 And he does it in a way that actually gets the real issues to the surface so that people can

00:18:21.220 start talking about those things,

00:18:22.720 hopefully in an intelligent way.

00:18:26.320 So all three of those examples,

00:18:28.580 Theo Vaughn,

00:18:29.140 Ryan Reynolds,

00:18:29.700 Dave Chappelle,

00:18:30.640 clearly personalities are different.

00:18:32.760 Clearly they're looking at life differently.

00:18:34.400 They see it differently,

00:18:35.140 the way they approach their,

00:18:36.660 their humor and their wit.

00:18:38.800 These are also people who are very,

00:18:40.360 very intelligent.

00:18:40.960 I think that a lot of the times we discount comedians their intelligence because we think

00:18:46.380 they're just being stupid or funny.

00:18:48.440 They're not.

00:18:49.400 They see things that we don't always see.

00:18:51.680 They see life in a different way.

00:18:53.720 You know,

00:18:53.880 the way Theo Vaughn thinks about things sometimes sounds ridiculous,

00:18:56.840 but it's also really interesting if you think about it and having those outlets and having those

00:19:01.140 people that see things differently than the rest of us is a good thing.

00:19:05.520 The other thing I'll say is that again,

00:19:07.980 we're always not going to fit into one of these categories or the other.

00:19:10.960 There's going to be a lot of crossover warrior,

00:19:14.060 for example,

00:19:14.700 Jocko Willink.

00:19:16.100 What's interesting about Jocko is he's also very well educated and he's able to communicate

00:19:21.420 and articulate ideas.

00:19:22.840 He's a,

00:19:23.320 he's a genius marketer.

00:19:25.160 And so that might fall into one of the categories I'm going to talk about here shortly,

00:19:28.320 but we don't always fit neatly into one of these categories.

00:19:32.020 We usually have strengths.

00:19:33.780 So let's move into this next category.

00:19:35.420 And this is the one I wanted to talk about with regards to Jocko.

00:19:37.760 Now he isn't somebody you would immediately think of somebody in this category,

00:19:40.940 but he certainly can fall into this or he has tendencies of falling into this category.

00:19:46.040 And that is the scholar.

00:19:48.200 That is the person who is well-versed.

00:19:50.360 They're knowledgeable.

00:19:51.700 They think about things deeply.

00:19:53.880 They're analytical.

00:19:54.960 They research.

00:19:56.160 They dive deep into subjects that are important to them.

00:19:58.880 They're not interested in surface level discussions.

00:20:01.720 These people are not usually funny.

00:20:03.780 They're not jesters.

00:20:05.300 They're usually very serious.

00:20:06.860 They take things seriously.

00:20:08.620 They believe that life is to be,

00:20:10.960 is to be lived in a serious way.

00:20:14.380 And so the two that immediately come to mind,

00:20:16.860 the quintessential intellect,

00:20:18.600 obviously you have a man like Jordan Peterson,

00:20:20.900 not,

00:20:22.200 not a funny person,

00:20:23.460 not somebody who's light and carefree,

00:20:26.080 but he's clearly,

00:20:28.360 clearly thinking about subjects in a deep,

00:20:31.840 significant and meaningful way.

00:20:33.780 Sometimes in fact,

00:20:34.820 when he communicates,

00:20:35.900 you can watch him.

00:20:37.020 It's almost as if you're hearing his brain work because he'll ramble on with

00:20:43.220 sentences.

00:20:43.640 And sometimes it's hard to really put those things together and he'll go on

00:20:48.500 different tangents.

00:20:49.360 And then eventually he'll bring it back in because he's very intelligent.

00:20:52.080 He'll bring it back together.

00:20:54.780 And then all of a sudden you have a coherent thought,

00:20:57.000 but that's his brain processing information,

00:21:00.400 thoughts,

00:21:00.920 ideas,

00:21:01.500 and then bringing it in a way that's deliverable for people.

00:21:06.700 Another person that comes to mind,

00:21:08.720 again,

00:21:09.120 this is an obvious example is a man we know as Andrew Huberman,

00:21:13.960 very intellectual,

00:21:15.780 very brilliant,

00:21:17.040 very bright,

00:21:18.360 maybe not always the greatest communicator,

00:21:20.540 but we can't deny that this is a person who thinks deeply,

00:21:23.880 more deeply than most people about subjects that are relevant,

00:21:27.540 important to him.

00:21:28.740 Now,

00:21:28.920 again,

00:21:29.680 I've,

00:21:30.240 I haven't,

00:21:31.680 these two individuals,

00:21:33.100 Jordan Peterson and Andrew Huberman,

00:21:34.520 at times I've said,

00:21:35.680 you've heard me say that I don't resonate with these guys.

00:21:38.340 Like a lot of this feels unnecessary because that's not my personality.

00:21:42.800 And that's what we need to understand.

00:21:44.320 Of course,

00:21:45.460 the intellect isn't going to really resonate with somebody with a different archetype.

00:21:52.380 Now I'm going to bring Jocko back into this.

00:21:54.380 Jocko is primarily a warrior archetype,

00:21:57.620 but as I said earlier,

00:21:59.120 we don't fit so neatly into these categories.

00:22:01.540 He's also an intellectual archetype.

00:22:04.120 He has a little bit of that in him.

00:22:05.480 And we know that because when he does his podcast for three hours,

00:22:09.880 he's obviously well-versed.

00:22:12.140 He's well-researched.

00:22:13.560 He reads the books.

00:22:14.680 He's taking notes.

00:22:15.560 He's asking thoughtful questions.

00:22:17.860 And it's the dichotomy of the warrior and the intellect that makes somebody like Jocko interesting.

00:22:25.000 It's the same reason why the intellectual Jock is going to be an interesting person. 0.91

00:22:31.960 When we think of Jock,

00:22:33.300 we think of big,

00:22:34.040 dumb idiot. 0.98

00:22:34.500 When we think of intellect,

00:22:36.460 we think of nerdy,

00:22:38.060 wimpy geek.

00:22:39.300 Now Jordan Peterson,

00:22:41.820 no offense here at all,

00:22:44.240 but he fits that physical description.

00:22:48.320 Like he's not a physical specimen.

00:22:50.760 Now he dresses well.

00:22:52.700 He looks the part,

00:22:53.680 but even with what he dresses,

00:22:55.100 he's still signifying that he's the intellect.

00:22:57.420 Think of his suit.

00:22:58.300 Think of his hair.

00:22:59.360 Think of his beard,

00:23:00.160 which signifies wisdom.

00:23:01.720 Think about the gray that he embraces.

00:23:03.440 Think about his mannerisms.

00:23:05.320 It's authoritative,

00:23:07.020 meaning I'm the authority on this subject.

00:23:09.400 Now,

00:23:09.640 Andrew Huberman's a little bit of an anomaly because this is a guy who actually looks more like the warrior archetype.

00:23:17.740 He's fit.

00:23:18.660 He's fit.

00:23:19.520 He's strong.

00:23:20.660 He's obviously a physical specimen.

00:23:23.360 He trains hard.

00:23:25.180 He works hard.

00:23:26.260 And yet he's an intellect.

00:23:27.660 And I think what's really important to extract is that when you as a man can embrace,

00:23:33.700 I won't say conflicting archetypes,

00:23:37.100 but competing archetypes,

00:23:38.520 you actually make yourself really interesting.

00:23:41.040 This is why Andrew Huberman's interesting.

00:23:43.140 This is why Jocko Willink is interesting.

00:23:45.060 Because they have the warrior look,

00:23:47.840 and Jocko's the warrior archetype with a secondary as intellect,

00:23:51.020 and Andrew Huberman's an intellect with a secondary as a warrior.

00:23:54.800 So these are interesting people because they,

00:23:57.740 not only do they apply or appeal, I should say, to their own archetype,

00:24:03.880 they start appealing to other archetypes.

00:24:07.240 And this is why you see men like this build influence and credibility and authority

00:24:11.980 with large swaths of people,

00:24:14.500 because they're reaching across their primary archetype.

00:24:19.020 All right, let's move over to the next one.

00:24:21.340 The next one is priest.

00:24:23.280 Now, the priest is interesting because the priest is able to tap into a higher power.

00:24:28.780 The priest is not the authority,

00:24:30.800 and the priest knows that he's not the authority.

00:24:33.640 Where a guy like Andrew Huberman and Jordan Peterson,

00:24:36.440 might operate as if,

00:24:39.260 and I'm not sure whether these guys believe in God or not.

00:24:41.480 They don't really talk about that.

00:24:43.260 Jordan talks about God and spirituality,

00:24:45.820 but we don't know if he's actually a believer,

00:24:48.720 as far as I understand.

00:24:51.240 They're not appealing to a higher authority.

00:24:53.820 They're appealing to scholarly, accurate data and information.

00:24:59.100 That is their appeal.

00:25:00.800 It's scientific.

00:25:02.160 It's measurable.

00:25:03.920 It's factual.

00:25:04.940 We can, it's tangible.

00:25:06.600 We can see it.

00:25:07.600 But a spiritual archetype doesn't rely so much on the data and the facts,

00:25:11.920 but he's going to be more in tune with how he feels.

00:25:16.260 And this is going to be an appeal to somebody other than himself.

00:25:19.940 This is typically,

00:25:20.660 it always is a higher power,

00:25:23.560 whether it's God or Allah or any number of gods that people worship.

00:25:28.360 So a couple of people that come to mind in this priest category,

00:25:31.420 number one is somebody like Granger Smith.

00:25:34.580 Granger's been on the podcast.

00:25:35.980 He's a good friend of mine.

00:25:37.860 In fact,

00:25:38.340 him and I talk quite regularly as I was going through my divorce and my own personal struggles in my life.

00:25:43.380 And I'll tell you,

00:25:44.420 every time I talked with Granger,

00:25:46.280 it was always an appeal to God.

00:25:49.820 Here's what God wants of you.

00:25:52.420 Here's how God is on your side.

00:25:54.520 Here's a scripture that shows how we are meant to live.

00:25:58.340 And so priests are representatives of their higher power.

00:26:03.180 And they know that they are just a mouthpiece for something bigger and greater than themselves.

00:26:08.600 And we need that.

00:26:10.160 Whether you're spiritual or religious or none of that,

00:26:14.580 we all have to have something that we believe is bigger than ourselves.

00:26:18.900 What a miserable,

00:26:19.960 miserable existence if we operated as if we were the supreme authority of our own lives.

00:26:26.200 And you're not.

00:26:27.300 Now we have sovereignty.

00:26:28.880 And as a Christian,

00:26:29.840 I believe that God has given us that gift of sovereignty and agency,

00:26:33.760 but ultimately I am answerable to God.

00:26:37.920 And the priest understands that.

00:26:40.060 He recognized that.

00:26:41.340 And he appeals to the spiritual side,

00:26:43.800 which is more feelings-based than it is intellectual or factual-based.

00:26:49.060 Another person that comes to mind who's also been a podcast guest is Mark Driscoll.

00:26:53.740 Now Mark is a very polarizing figure.

00:26:56.220 And again,

00:26:56.680 we can debate the merits of who these individuals are and what they believe,

00:27:00.240 but there's no denying that this is a priest archetype.

00:27:04.600 Now Mark's a little interesting because he is also a little bit in that warrior or king archetype.

00:27:12.340 You can see it.

00:27:13.600 And people will even make comments about it,

00:27:15.460 that he's arrogant or he's egotistical. 0.82

00:27:18.360 Now I don't believe that's the case,

00:27:19.840 but I think what they're reading is a little bit of that king and warrior archetype

00:27:23.820 combined with the spiritual archetype.

00:27:26.080 And so it comes across as not as humble

00:27:29.160 or not as subject to the traditional view that we look at with a higher power, the priest.

00:27:37.580 We don't see that with Granger.

00:27:39.600 Now Granger will fall a little bit more,

00:27:41.860 and I don't really have a place for this,

00:27:44.100 but Granger I think falls into a category that I'm going to explain at the very end,

00:27:47.820 so I won't spoil it now.

00:27:49.300 But Granger definitely has the priest archetype,

00:27:52.020 and then he has the seventh archetype,

00:27:54.040 and I'm going to share what that is here shortly.

00:27:57.920 Please forgive me about the random coughing too.

00:28:00.420 I'm overcoming a little bit of a head cold,

00:28:02.200 so that's what I'm dealing with.

00:28:04.080 All right, so now we're on to number six.

00:28:05.800 So the sixth archetype is the statesman.

00:28:09.240 All right, the statesman is the politician.

00:28:11.540 He's smooth, he's charming, he's witty, he's clever.

00:28:18.080 Taken to the extreme, obviously politicians are among the least trusted individuals in society,

00:28:23.260 but these are the people that are advocating for a certain belief in society,

00:28:28.240 and they know in order to do that,

00:28:30.980 they're going to need to appeal in a way that is democratic.

00:28:36.480 I've got to work with these people.

00:28:38.000 I've got to work with these people.

00:28:39.020 I've got to be bipartisan.

00:28:40.260 I've got to bring people to the center.

00:28:41.620 I've got to convince these people to come over here,

00:28:44.000 and I've got to compromise in order to make this deal to do this.

00:28:47.000 Taken to the extreme, and we see this all the time in American politics,

00:28:50.100 and probably international politics as well,

00:28:52.440 these are slimeballs. 0.99

00:28:53.840 They're scummy.

00:28:56.920 We don't trust them as far as we can throw them,

00:29:00.480 and that's taken to the extreme.

00:29:02.740 But we can all appreciate the statesman.

00:29:05.220 We can all appreciate somebody who's politically correct,

00:29:09.020 who has that sense of charm and appeal,

00:29:12.840 who knows how to say things in a witty and clever way

00:29:16.380 to bring people to their side or to their cause

00:29:19.160 or at least get them to think about something different.

00:29:21.640 Somebody who I think of immediately is Ronald Reagan.

00:29:26.480 Ronald Reagan was an actor, of course,

00:29:29.280 and that's going to fall into the last category I'll share here in a minute,

00:29:31.780 but he was also a statesman.

00:29:33.420 If you go back and see some of his most viral moments,

00:29:37.500 and I don't think going viral was a thing when he was the president,

00:29:41.920 but if you go back to some of his most viral moments now,

00:29:44.640 it's his charm and his wit in dealing with and confronting polarizing subjects

00:29:51.620 that made him really popular.

00:29:54.140 You know, we all know Mr. Gorbachev, tear down that wall.

00:29:57.960 We've all seen the video where a balloon pops at a rally after he had been shot,

00:30:02.380 and he said, missed me.

00:30:04.120 We've all seen the video where he was debating with his opponent,

00:30:07.900 and I can't remember exactly who it is.

00:30:09.600 They were bringing up Ronald Reagan's age,

00:30:11.520 and he said,

00:30:11.900 I promise I will not use your age, your inexperience, and youth as a weapon against you.

00:30:17.500 He's very charming, and you can't help but like the person.

00:30:21.620 You may not agree with the politics, but he's a very likable person,

00:30:25.260 and it's hard not to want to listen.

00:30:27.860 Those are people who feel like they can make a difference.

00:30:30.320 They feel like they can change the world.

00:30:32.380 We're not debating the political positions right now.

00:30:35.360 We're just talking about the characteristics.

00:30:37.160 So a couple of people that come to mind,

00:30:38.760 and I'm going to give you one from both sides of the aisle.

00:30:41.140 Number one, Ron DeSantis.

00:30:43.440 Ron DeSantis is a statesman.

00:30:44.940 Now, interestingly enough, he was in the war and the Navy,

00:30:48.100 so he's also a warrior archetype,

00:30:50.140 which I think helps him be a better statesman,

00:30:52.120 but he's polished.

00:30:53.480 He's smooth.

00:30:55.340 Early in the presidential election for this year,

00:31:00.060 I would have put my money on DeSantis.

00:31:02.700 I think that he has all of the Trumpian type fighting capabilities

00:31:06.840 with that warrior mentality,

00:31:08.240 but I think he's polished like a statesman.

00:31:10.980 He understands that he has to win both sides of the equation.

00:31:15.880 He's willing to navigate those murky waters

00:31:18.340 and to try to find the best way

00:31:21.060 to navigate difficult and polarizing subjects,

00:31:23.620 and he does it in a really classy way, frankly.

00:31:27.000 And you can argue about the politics,

00:31:29.900 but he is a statesman.

00:31:31.380 Another one, on the opposite side of the aisle,

00:31:33.320 and just because you all know I'm conservative,

00:31:34.820 a lot of you guys are not going to like this,

00:31:36.400 but this is the reality.

00:31:37.240 Somebody like Barack Obama, he is a statesman.

00:31:40.840 Again, we don't have to agree with politics,

00:31:42.760 but he's charming.

00:31:44.720 He has the capacity to bring people together.

00:31:48.720 He can speak well.

00:31:49.880 He can present well.

00:31:51.200 He shares topics in a way that make you consider

00:31:53.800 and think about it differently

00:31:55.020 than maybe you did in the past.

00:31:56.740 He has a way with words.

00:31:58.620 He can be witty at times,

00:31:59.920 and he looks the part of a statesman.

00:32:02.380 He looks presidential.

00:32:04.860 So again, you can debate the politics,

00:32:06.380 and that's why I wanted to give you an example

00:32:07.760 from both sides of the aisle,

00:32:09.020 but the reality is DeSantis, Barack Obama,

00:32:11.580 and Ronald Reagan are all quintessential

00:32:14.280 statesman archetypes.

00:32:16.840 All right, guys.

00:32:19.740 Excuse me again.

00:32:21.420 The last one, the last archetype is the romantic.

00:32:25.520 Is the romantic.

00:32:27.380 Ronald Reagan was a bit of a romantic.

00:32:29.980 I mean, as an actor,

00:32:32.860 there's obviously a bit of a romanticism in that,

00:32:35.440 and I'm going to explain some more characteristics there,

00:32:37.980 but the romantic is not somebody

00:32:40.460 who just is the lover boy.

00:32:42.440 That's not what I'm saying.

00:32:43.820 The romantic is somebody who can turn on the charm.

00:32:46.940 Somebody who is almost magnetic.

00:32:51.420 Like, you can't help but like the person.

00:32:53.540 They're very charming.

00:32:55.500 They're enjoyable to listen to.

00:32:57.460 You find yourself wanting to spend time with them.

00:33:02.400 Generally, they're idealistic.

00:33:04.260 They're not always so practical,

00:33:05.820 but they're very idealistic.

00:33:07.520 A lot of these people fall into the category of arts.

00:33:10.280 So you might have, for example,

00:33:11.700 an actor or a musician or a painter,

00:33:15.800 somebody in the arts.

00:33:17.380 And that's why I'm trying to give you

00:33:18.380 a broad representation of what it means to be a man.

00:33:20.700 But the romantic is definitely an archetype,

00:33:22.840 and it's definitely somebody we're all familiar with.

00:33:26.000 So who are a couple of examples of the romantic?

00:33:29.040 One of these people have been on the podcast,

00:33:30.980 one has not.

00:33:31.520 But the first one that comes to mind

00:33:32.820 is somebody like Matthew McConaughey.

00:33:35.500 Matthew McConaughey is a very likable, charming person.

00:33:39.420 There's no doubt about it.

00:33:41.200 He can turn on the charm.

00:33:42.820 He's got a good smile.

00:33:44.980 He plays to the crowd.

00:33:47.760 He's got ideals and vision.

00:33:49.700 He's a little bit kind of out there,

00:33:51.340 a little woo-woo, if you will.

00:33:52.960 But he's very charming and very magnetic.

00:33:56.000 He's definitely not a warrior.

00:33:57.300 We know that, right?

00:33:58.200 Just by looking at him,

00:33:59.400 by the way he acts and his demeanor.

00:34:01.800 And that's not a knock.

00:34:02.720 That's just not his archetype.

00:34:04.800 He's not a king.

00:34:06.300 He can be a little jesterish, right?

00:34:08.340 He's got some comedic timing.

00:34:10.480 He knows how to make people smile and laugh.

00:34:12.520 So he's got a little bit of that,

00:34:13.580 but he is definitely a romantic.

00:34:15.460 And the other one that comes to mind

00:34:16.900 is somebody like Ryan Gosling.

00:34:19.820 Obviously, we've got another actor,

00:34:21.220 a romantic,

00:34:22.900 somebody who can turn on the charm,

00:34:24.720 somebody who can lay it on thick.

00:34:25.900 And I'm not just talking about romantic charm.

00:34:28.260 Even guys can't help,

00:34:29.400 but like the guy to some degree, right?

00:34:31.180 Either you want to be like him,

00:34:34.060 excuse me,

00:34:35.800 or the ladies want to be with him. 1.00

00:34:38.660 Very charming.

00:34:40.700 Just somebody who would be enjoyable to be around.

00:34:44.020 Another person that comes to mind

00:34:45.300 that may not fit into the same type of category,

00:34:47.220 but is definitely a romantic

00:34:48.240 is somebody like The Rock.

00:34:50.980 He is in the romantic archetype, right?

00:34:55.460 He's, again, charming.

00:34:57.360 He can flash that million dollar smile

00:34:59.340 or probably billion dollar smile at this point.

00:35:01.660 You can't help but like the guy.

00:35:03.620 He doesn't really get into politics.

00:35:05.580 He's not pitting people against each other.

00:35:07.780 He's got big ideals.

00:35:08.980 He's got big dreams.

00:35:10.060 He's willing to do interesting things.

00:35:11.640 He's a bit of an entertainer.

00:35:13.220 So he can be a little loose with that at times

00:35:15.380 and really lay it on thick.

00:35:16.980 This is a romantic.

00:35:18.720 And those are the seven archetypes.

00:35:22.140 None of those are wrong.

00:35:23.700 None of those are bad.

00:35:25.760 They're neither good nor bad.

00:35:27.300 They just are.

00:35:29.060 And really what it comes down to

00:35:30.380 is how you're going to embrace

00:35:32.160 each of these archetypes in yourself

00:35:34.620 in order to produce favorable results for you

00:35:38.300 and the people that you have a responsibility for.

00:35:40.400 How are you gonna use your archetype

00:35:42.320 to protect, provide, and preside for other people?

00:35:45.180 Let's just do a quick recap

00:35:46.200 and then we'll call it a day.

00:35:47.660 Number one, you have the king.

00:35:49.360 I said Elon Musk and Trump.

00:35:51.120 A warrior.

00:35:51.920 Jock Willink.

00:35:52.620 Cam Haynes.

00:35:53.360 A jester.

00:35:54.100 Theo Vaughn.

00:35:54.800 Ryan Reynolds.

00:35:55.340 Dave Chappelle.

00:35:56.500 A scholar.

00:35:57.180 Jordan Peterson.

00:35:57.960 Andrew Huberman.

00:35:58.980 A priest.

00:35:59.640 Granger Smith.

00:36:00.500 Mark Driscoll.

00:36:01.540 A statesman.

00:36:02.280 Ron DeSantis.

00:36:03.060 Barack Obama.

00:36:03.900 And then the romantic.

00:36:04.800 Matthew McConaughey.

00:36:05.960 Ryan Gosling.

00:36:07.680 My intention today, guys,

00:36:09.500 was to give you these archetypes,

00:36:11.200 not to pigeonhole you into being one or the other

00:36:13.700 or all this or all that or a combination of.

00:36:16.360 It's just so you can start seeing

00:36:18.360 how you view yourself

00:36:20.180 and how other people view you.

00:36:23.460 Now, if I can, I'll tell you,

00:36:24.940 my archetypes are going to be more

00:36:27.060 in the king and warrior category.

00:36:29.020 I'm definitely not a jester.

00:36:30.940 I take life very seriously.

00:36:32.860 I'm certainly not a scholar.

00:36:34.840 I can be fairly well-versed

00:36:36.760 and can communicate well,

00:36:38.020 but I'm not real well-researched.

00:36:40.700 Priest, not me.

00:36:42.840 Statesman, again, not me.

00:36:44.320 Romantic, not me.

00:36:45.400 So I fall into the king

00:36:47.740 and the warrior archetypes,

00:36:49.720 if you're wondering and you're curious.

00:36:51.500 Now, I would challenge you to ask yourself,

00:36:53.800 where do you fall?

00:36:55.000 And where do you want to fall?

00:36:57.300 By the way, guys,

00:36:58.180 and we have some crossover.

00:36:59.660 We have the jester Ryan Reynolds here,

00:37:01.360 but Ryan Reynolds can also be a romantic.

00:37:04.980 Trump, as the king, can also be a jester.

00:37:08.940 Andrew Huberman, as the intellect,

00:37:10.840 can also be a warrior.

00:37:12.880 So again, we're not pigeonholing ourselves.

00:37:15.000 We're just looking at what our strengths

00:37:16.280 and weaknesses are,

00:37:17.560 what categories we fall into,

00:37:18.980 how we can improve in one area

00:37:21.160 and how we can shore up the areas

00:37:22.640 we're not so great at

00:37:23.620 so that we can be the well-rounded men

00:37:25.360 that people need us to be.

00:37:27.420 I hope that helps.

00:37:28.440 And I'm sure that I missed some archetypes

00:37:30.240 and I'm sure you guys have some additional ideas.

00:37:32.760 A lot of this you might agree with.

00:37:34.100 And there might be people

00:37:35.320 that you disagree with on this list.

00:37:36.980 We're not debating politics or any of that.

00:37:39.060 We're debating the virtues

00:37:40.100 and characteristics of these individuals.

00:37:42.140 And do they fall into these categories?

00:37:44.220 I hope that helps, guys.

00:37:45.660 We'll be back next week.

00:37:46.860 Until then, go out there, take action,

00:37:48.840 and become the man you are meant to be.

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Order of Man - August 02, 2024

The Seven Masculine Archetypes ｜ FRIDAY FIELD NOTES

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