TIM TEBOW ｜ Create a Life That Counts
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 7 minutes
Words per Minute
191.29533
Summary
Tim Tebow is a former NFL Quarterback who played for the New York Jets and the Philadelphia Eagles. He is also the founder of the Tim Tebow Foundation and author of the new book, Mission Possible. Tebow s work with those who have special needs is so crucial in the absence of manliness, creating an edge in your life, stacking up the small wins, and at the foundation of it all, how to create a life that counts.
Transcript
00:00:00.960
Gentlemen, my guest today is the one and only Tim Tebow.
00:00:04.500
Now, guys, I had the opportunity to sit down with him in New York last week, and without
00:00:08.860
a doubt, he's one of the most genuine human beings that I've ever met.
00:00:13.380
You could feel that from him, from the moment that he walked into our studio, which happened
00:00:21.560
Now, guys, I've always wondered if the men we see online are the same in person, and
00:00:25.700
I can unequivocally say yes with regards to Tebow.
00:00:29.260
Today, we talk about where Tebow's convictions come from, the powerful relationship that
00:00:34.640
he has with his father and also his coaches along the way, why his work with those who
00:00:39.860
have special needs is so crucial in the absence of manliness, the dichotomy between God's
00:00:45.760
sovereignty and our own, creating an edge in your life, stacking up the small wins, and
00:00:51.240
at the foundation of it all, how to create a life that counts.
00:00:57.360
You live life to the fullest, embrace your fears, and boldly chart your own path.
00:01:02.140
When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time, every time.
00:01:06.540
You are not easily deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient, strong.
00:01:15.820
At the end of the day, and after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man.
00:01:23.780
I'm the host and the founder of the Order of Men podcast and movement.
00:01:29.200
We've got a very powerful conversation for you today with none other than Mr. Tim Tebow.
00:01:37.200
If you're new to the podcast, my job is to interview incredible men like Tim, like Jocko
00:01:44.240
Goggins, Andy Frisilla, Ben Shapiro, Dan Crenshaw, Dave Ramsey.
00:01:51.780
The lineup of men that we've had on the podcast is phenomenal, and that's a testament to the
00:01:57.260
So please, if you haven't already, make sure you subscribe to the podcast, leave your ratings
00:02:02.020
That goes a long way in promoting the visibility of the podcast, but also helping us secure
00:02:09.380
So please, again, subscribe, leave that rating and review.
00:02:16.840
As of today, it's only going to be open for probably about 10 days, maybe less, depending
00:02:24.680
So if you're interested in the Iron Council, which is our digital brotherhood, then band
00:02:45.280
So many of you have asked me who has been my favorite guest on the podcast.
00:02:49.100
And guys, after the conversation I had last week, I can confidently say from the moment
00:02:54.300
Tim and I shook hands that this is one of my favorite human beings on the planet.
00:02:59.680
And a definite highlight for me over the past seven years.
00:03:02.400
It seems a bit silly introducing you to who Tim Tebow is as a former NFL and MLB professional
00:03:11.140
athlete, New York Times bestselling author, of course, the author of his latest book, Mission
00:03:15.360
Possible, the founder of the Tim Tebow Foundation.
00:03:20.340
And he has literally inspired millions of people around the world to live a more meaningful
00:03:26.620
I asked him about his prospects as a professional athlete moving forward.
00:03:31.020
I'll let you listen to that part at the end of the podcast.
00:03:33.680
And let's just say for now that he has found a passion in taking his performance from the
00:03:39.620
field and translating it into serving those who need a champion to act in their stead.
00:03:51.860
You've been here for what, a couple of days now?
00:03:57.620
And thank you for encouraging so many men to be men.
00:04:02.620
I don't think there's enough of that conversation that's happening here in our society here in
00:04:10.960
It's something we see in a lot of countries in the areas that we serve around the world.
00:04:14.900
And I'm grateful to be able to sit down and talk for a little bit.
00:04:19.020
So I know you do a lot of work with sex trafficking, and that's a big part of what your foundation
00:04:26.860
Do you think that some of what you're talking with regards to masculinity around the world
00:04:31.260
has to do with the problems that we see specifically as it relates to that?
00:04:36.820
I feel like we're talking about multiple problems.
00:04:40.580
I feel like masculinity is part of the problem of what being a man actually looks like.
00:04:51.020
So I don't want to start out too intense, but we just got back from Africa.
00:04:57.760
And just a few of the stories that we were with is one of the moms that brings her special
00:05:03.820
needs boy to our location, she only could get there because her husband, the man, gave her
00:05:14.940
And instead of poisoning the child, she brought the boy to us because she thought maybe they'll
00:05:23.260
And then the night to shines that we were at in a few of these countries, and I don't
00:05:27.660
want to be too specific on the places, but there were hundreds of moms that brought all
00:05:40.540
And in one of the locations, when I'd probably say there were about 200 and so, maybe 210,
00:05:46.480
215 moms, and what we counted, and maybe off by a few, five dads.
00:05:51.260
And honestly, my wife, who was right beside me as we're celebrating, we're cheering, and
00:06:00.040
we're crowning all of these boys and girls, my wife was weeping, not just for all the boys
00:06:06.480
and girls and all the special needs kings and queens, but because where were the dads?
00:06:11.640
And she kept bringing up to me, look at the line waiting to be celebrated, you don't see
00:06:19.460
And then to take even one more step, in South Africa, we also have these, with our partners,
00:06:30.940
baby safes, so that moms, we encourage them all to keep their babies in love and to treasure
00:06:39.920
But unfortunately, in so many times of desperation, they throw their babies away, and every day,
00:06:45.820
just in Johannesburg alone, it's an estimated three to four babies are thrown away in the
00:06:52.260
And so instead of having a baby thrown away, we have baby safes with our partners that we,
00:06:59.940
instead of throwing it away, would you please put it in the safe?
00:07:02.160
And an alarm goes off, and our team goes and gets a baby and brings it to the orphanage.
00:07:06.400
And yeah, it's definitely an overwhelming process for sure.
00:07:13.480
Does a lot of that stem from, are those financial constraints, are those emotional hardships,
00:07:18.820
they don't have the maybe emotional maturity to deal with that?
00:07:21.580
Well, I don't necessarily think that as much, and we're still learning a lot of why, but in
00:07:26.940
my opinion, one of the areas that we know is that unfortunately they get pregnant and so
00:07:33.300
many of the men leave and say, we're not supporting, we're not going to help.
00:07:36.580
And to me, this is caused more than anything by men not standing up to be men.
00:07:43.280
And so they leave, and they put mom in such a desperate position, and they're in desperate
00:07:50.840
situations where they don't know what to do, they don't know how to do.
00:07:54.280
Sometimes they already have two or three kids, and how can I take care of another one?
00:07:57.460
And so a letter that we got dropped off with the baby just a couple of days ago was saying
00:08:05.260
his name, and how much she loves him, and how much she cares for him, and how she's dropping
00:08:11.160
him off because at least here that he can get three meals a day and can be taken care of.
00:08:17.660
And I mean, we're sitting there reading a letter, weeping, and it's not because she doesn't
00:08:23.380
love this boy, it's because she doesn't have support. And a big reason is because he walked
00:08:29.960
away, and he's not there. And so those are just a few of the issues that are very personal to me
00:08:36.040
that we see on a daily basis. And it's such a part of our heart to encourage men, even in hard
00:08:44.840
situations, to step up, to step up. Even sometimes we don't feel like it's your responsibility,
00:08:50.680
step up, fill the gap. Be able to be those men that, you know what, okay, it might not be exactly
00:08:57.900
your responsibility, but we're called, I believe, as men to be protectors, to be servers, to be
00:09:03.380
lovers. And love is not this, the greatest form of love, in my opinion, it's not an emotion,
00:09:08.040
it's not a feeling, it's a choice. It's a choice, and the best definition I've ever heard of that is
00:09:12.560
to choose the best interests of another person and act on their behalf. It's the agape form of love
00:09:17.100
that we learn about in the Greek. There are four types of love, with the agape being the most
00:09:20.840
admirable, and it's the form of love that God has for us. And it's what we're, I believe,
00:09:26.080
it's what we're supposed to have for humanity. And we're not, it's not this feeling that we have,
00:09:30.800
it's a choice that we make. It's a choice that God made for us to come on a rescue mission for us,
00:09:34.820
and it's a choice we're supposed to make for humanity, to choose their best interest and act
00:09:38.720
on their behalf. And that's what I believe we're supposed, all of us are supposed to do,
00:09:42.180
but especially as men, we're supposed to choose people's best interests and act on their behalf,
00:09:46.760
especially the least, the last, the lost, those that are forgotten, those that can't fight for
00:09:51.020
themselves, those around the world. And unfortunately, so many times we see in a lot of
00:09:57.020
these places, men that are leaving, men that are running, men that are saying, oh, it's not my
00:10:01.620
responsibility. It is your responsibility. It's my responsibility. It's our responsibility.
00:10:06.320
And we have to step up because you know what, if men together step up to say, you know what,
00:10:11.280
we're going to fill this gap and we're going to be men, we're going to be protectors. We're going
00:10:15.420
to be servers. We're going to be those that are going to care for the least, the last and lost.
00:10:19.160
We could make a change. That's powerful. Yeah. I mean, I have some experience to a lesser degree
00:10:24.120
than what you're talking about. My dad wasn't really around when I was younger, but the men in
00:10:28.980
my life who primarily are coaches, my football coaches in particular, those guys didn't have to
00:10:34.440
step up that way. Like they didn't have to be there. They had their own kids, they have their own
00:10:37.980
families, they have their own careers, and yet they're choosing to be there.
00:10:41.280
And then as I was coaching youth sports teams, as my kids came up through football and baseball,
00:10:47.540
it was disheartening to not be able to get even help. Like, I need an assistant coach. I need
00:10:54.460
somebody to help me. Well, I don't know anything about baseball. At this point, it doesn't matter.
00:10:57.520
What does it matter? Just come here and coach these boys. And you would see these young boys who
00:11:02.140
looked at us in a fatherly way because they didn't have it at home. It was really, really discouraging.
00:11:07.460
Yeah. And I echo that. I want to thank so many of the coaches who have been father figures to me.
00:11:16.020
But I'm also so fortunate to have just one of the best dads. Someone that has been
00:11:23.400
not just a dad, but a hero. I get to talk about these things in a large part because I got to watch
00:11:32.300
my dad do it every day. You know, I get to watch my dad love mom, love all five of us. But then
00:11:39.420
as it just as important, he, he loved people that could never love that could love him back,
00:11:46.980
but could never do anything back for him. Couldn't show that. It couldn't do anything. He's
00:11:50.480
helping people around the world that could literally never help him back. Right. You know?
00:11:56.180
Right. And, um, and so it's not just like, Oh, Hey, Timmy, you need to help people. He never even
00:12:03.400
really said that I got to watch it every day. Right. It was an example. It was an example. And I think
00:12:08.320
that one of the mistakes that so many parents make is that they think their kids aren't really
00:12:17.380
watching everything. They see it all. They do. They see the highs, they see the low, the lows,
00:12:23.000
they hear the arguments, they hear the good conversation. They know what's going on. Even
00:12:28.020
if they can't, you know, the parents don't even think, and we got to see that, but that made us
00:12:34.280
love our parents more. Yeah. You know? And because it was just such an incredible example. And still my
00:12:41.820
dad to this day is an example. My, my dad's been, um, diagnosed with Parkinson's for quite a few years
00:12:47.800
now. And, and obviously it's taken his toll, but my dad still is, is on mission is serving people.
00:12:56.440
It's loving people. And if you ask him, even in the midst of all the pain, Hey dad, how you doing?
00:13:01.100
There's only one response. I'm blessed. Really? Period. Yeah. It won't say anything else,
00:13:06.620
but that's what it is. You, you talk a lot about him and obviously you cover a lot of, of the way you
00:13:11.560
grew up in, in, in the book as well. Uh, I'm wondering if there's ever been any level of,
00:13:16.140
uh, frustration in the relationship or contention. I know sometimes that happens. Like I see it in my
00:13:21.900
own son, my oldest, who's almost 14, where you see, you know, like he'll look at me a certain way.
00:13:27.680
I'm like, Oh, he's challenging me. He's trying to find his independence. And we're so much alike
00:13:32.300
that there's a lot of, of great discussions we have, but there's a lot of this at times too,
00:13:38.240
especially as he gets older. A good question. Um, I think there were the times where, um,
00:13:45.880
I probably was like, okay, dad, I don't need you to be so close. Like, you know, so close at practice
00:13:52.700
or so close at the games. And, and then it was something that I was so convicted. I was like,
00:13:58.540
no, I want you to be because it was, I mean, a lot of my favorite memories in my life or the moments
00:14:06.720
after the games, after the practices, riding home with dad, talking about it. And then also
00:14:12.360
complaining to dad could having that, that relationship where I could say, man, if this
00:14:18.240
coach only did this or, you know, and then I, and then getting the, the, that relationship of the
00:14:23.500
advice back. And then I'll tell you one of the things I think really made our relationship very
00:14:27.100
strong was in the recruiting process in high school. And my dad would drive us all over to
00:14:32.960
schools all over the country and would be with me and never forced his opinion on me. Not one time,
00:14:40.040
even when I was asking him, tell me where to go. He would never really do it. He just, what do you
00:14:45.120
think? And guide me in that process. And I even frustrated me because I'll just tell me where I'm
00:14:50.980
supposed to go. I just want to know the answer, you know, and he, it would really kind of help me
00:14:56.140
almost think through the process, but make my own decision in that. But man, it's still driving
00:15:01.740
around the country with him looking at schools, uh, was one of the, my favorite parts of my life
00:15:07.400
with him. And that was such a special bond that we had, um, in, in growing. And so then I look back
00:15:15.440
and I'm like, why would I ever have not wanted him close? Like, you know, and now I still call him
00:15:21.880
at least a couple of times a week, just, just not just to talk, but just to get his, his advice,
00:15:29.260
because I know that he's one of the wisest people I've ever met in my life.
00:15:33.980
Yeah. That's a really powerful example. Yeah. That's really cool. Um, I'm curious about your,
00:15:40.920
uh, how you manage some of the expectations, whether it comes from your father, it sounds like
00:15:45.860
he doesn't place unnecessary expectations on you. He's always always accepted that, but I look at you
00:15:51.840
especially, you know, as I was younger, I was getting out of high school and in college,
00:15:54.720
starting in my career, I saw you come up into your football career. And I imagine there was
00:15:59.640
high levels of expectations from some and an expectation of failure from others. You know,
00:16:05.320
I saw that watching you go through that. Uh, and then even now you're in the public space,
00:16:10.000
you're very well known. How do you manage effectively the expectations positive and negative that people
00:16:16.120
have of you? Well, I try not to be defined by what the world says of me. I think it's really hard.
00:16:20.960
I think something that my dad actually helped me a lot with. I was, um, struggling a lot when I
00:16:25.860
left high school and I just was at the university of Florida, not with, with sports or school or any
00:16:31.960
of those things, but with being scrutinized on another level. Definitely. And, uh, and even though
00:16:37.460
there's a ESPN documentary of me in high school and you're more well known, but then when you get to
00:16:42.440
college, it's all these people that you don't even know and they just start bashing you and you don't
00:16:46.660
even know why. And you're kind for the first time. And I remember going to dad and saying, dad, if
00:16:51.840
like, if they just met me, right, like they would like me, they just got to know me. They would. And,
00:16:59.140
uh, I remember dad saying to me to be, to be honest, if they did, they would like you because
00:17:05.060
you're very likable, but they don't want to like you. There's some people that just don't want to
00:17:10.980
like you. And, and it was this, this really big change in my life, not actually by my actions,
00:17:18.980
but more of mentally changing kind of a framework because I'm a, I'm a people pleaser by nature.
00:17:25.320
Uh, I'm just, I want to make people laugh. I want people to like me. I want to have friends. I'm,
00:17:30.200
I'm just a people pleaser. I don't necessarily like conflict. And then I made a conscious choice
00:17:39.040
sort of in that time and around that year. And it was a process where I, I, I moved more away
00:17:46.600
from trying to be liked to trying to be respected. And I couldn't, my dad was, he was so bold growing
00:17:56.280
up at so many times. Like we would be at a, a restaurant after a church and, you know, something
00:18:02.840
and my dad would stand up and, and he would pray and I would be like, Oh gosh, he's like,
00:18:07.500
like, Oh man, he's so bold. And my dad would say loud. He was so loud. And he would be like,
00:18:13.980
and he just like, like everywhere. And my dad was so, he was so authentically, um, what he believed
00:18:22.980
and what he was passionate about. And I couldn't always understand it, but why do you have to say
00:18:27.920
it? Why do you have, you know? And, um, and it was to the extent that even a lot of his family
00:18:33.740
didn't like him, you know, and why did they think he was like preachy or better than them?
00:18:40.300
Or like, what was their interpretation? He was the first person in their family that, um,
00:18:44.200
that was really faith-based. Oh God. And, um, and, um, he, he also, um, came from, uh,
00:18:51.700
of a family that was very broken and, um, and had, um, family he didn't even know about until
00:18:59.540
later on when I got more well-known. And so he didn't know of, and so, um, he didn't grow up with
00:19:10.320
a, uh, a father figure and he was learning so much of that on the go and was an incredible dad.
00:19:17.640
Um, and, and, and then, I mean, my dad's something that had the, the, he's a, he's a pastor. And then
00:19:25.620
I went on a short-term mission trip to the Philippines and felt called to, to go be a
00:19:30.400
missionary, um, over there and brought his wife and four kids and then had me over there. I mean,
00:19:36.500
the faith to do that and to move four kids. And he's just always been so bold and courageous and
00:19:41.680
I would watch him, but it would, I couldn't necessarily always understand that until I started
00:19:47.280
to make this, this, this adjustment from this liked to being respected transition. Because then
00:19:54.320
when I stopped focusing on, I understood more of at that time of, oh my gosh, these likes,
00:20:01.420
they're not very deep. You know, we live in a society that is all about likes, those clicks,
00:20:06.880
right? And then it's, and, but it's, it's not deep. It comes and goes. And you say one thing that
00:20:13.240
someone disagrees with based on religion or politics or something else and crushed, you
00:20:18.520
know? Totally. And then, but, but this understanding of this respect of this deeper, um, grounding
00:20:26.400
of earning that from people, right? Earning respect because of your integrity, because your character,
00:20:31.920
because the way you live, it's, it's harder to earn, but it's so much deeper and it's so much
00:20:37.220
more lasting. And then it was really by watching him, but then, but then studying scripture and
00:20:42.380
then studying, um, uh, Winston Churchill some and studying some, some other kind of role models that
00:20:49.160
I had in listening and learning. And I just thought, man, like I, I don't fully get it, but I sort of want
00:20:55.660
it, you know? And I don't, you know, I don't know what it's like to try to earn that, but I want to earn
00:21:01.920
that. And I think my dad, Winston Churchill, um, a lot of faith heroes that they got criticized on
00:21:07.820
these big scales, but yet even their critics so many times were respecting them. And, and one of
00:21:15.420
my favorite quotes from Winston Churchill is in a time where most of the world didn't like him
00:21:20.980
because the allies couldn't stand him. They thought he's losing the war for us. And even his own country
00:21:26.560
didn't really like him at this time. And obviously everybody else hated him because they were on the
00:21:30.420
other side, you know? And he says, if you have enemies, good, it means you stood for something
00:21:35.140
at least once in your life. And I just couldn't understand that. How could enemies be good?
00:21:41.000
But, but then it was coming to this understanding. Well, there's going to be people that disagree.
00:21:46.380
There's going to be naysayers, but just because they disagree with a thought or a principle or a
00:21:51.500
belief doesn't mean that there can't still be common ground. They still can't be respect.
00:21:56.160
And so it was this understanding of, I am going to try to, uh, I think spiritually and
00:22:01.860
emotionally and psychologically choose to live a life, trying to earn people's respect
00:22:06.760
and these likes. And that was a big change in my life. And a big part of that was by these heroes,
00:22:13.820
So you talk about, this was profound when you said it a second ago about not having, uh,
00:22:20.780
Yes. And you talk a lot about your faith and your relationship with God.
00:22:25.180
So, and I don't want to put words in your mouth, but I assume that you define your success or who
00:22:30.240
you are by your relationship and expectation from him.
00:22:33.620
But my question is, how do you balance? And this is something a lot of guys ask is,
00:22:37.860
how do you balance a relationship with God where you have given your life to him, but also
00:22:43.540
juxtaposed with having the power and autonomy over your own life? And what's that relationship
00:22:51.440
between I'm serving him, but I'm also living my own life.
00:22:55.780
That's a really good question. So I think it's cool that it's snowing.
00:23:03.820
it's important, I think, to understand what success really looks like. First of all,
00:23:09.760
um, I think in, in the world's eyes, what we're told so much is success is a few things. It's some
00:23:18.640
form of, of money, fame, power, status, all of these things. And I think,
00:23:23.480
I think when you study scripture, it's none of those things. I think none of those things are what
00:23:30.240
success is about. And I think there's some, you know, at times I've been able to have a few of those
00:23:36.500
things. And I think all of those things come and go. And I think when you base your life around those
00:23:43.880
things, I think you're always living a roller coaster that has highs and lows, but always leaves
00:23:52.420
you at the end of the ride having to go again. And I don't feel like they have fulfillment. I've
00:24:01.620
been fortunate to know a lot of people that have been successful. And I've had many deep conversations
00:24:08.500
with them asking them, when have you been most fulfilled?
00:24:14.320
I, I, I can't remember many ever saying it's after this deal. It's after this award is after this
00:24:21.760
and been fortunate to talk to a lot of people at the end of their life in hospitals,
00:24:27.960
some on death rows, some in, in very dark places. And I would ask them if you could go back and do it
00:24:38.300
all again, what would, what would you, what would you change? Why would you change it? And so many of
00:24:44.540
them would say, I would have loved more. I would have treated my family better. I would have served
00:24:52.380
more. I would have had more memories, but I would have tried to find a way to have more fulfillment
00:24:58.260
and meaningful things. And, uh, just, and this isn't just faith-based people. It's in so many
00:25:05.540
different, so many different walks of life. And, and so you think about all these things and I would
00:25:11.480
try to put them all together. And so many, many of them, in my opinion, and they use sometimes
00:25:17.540
different words, but they're searching for, for meaning, right? Why are we here? What is the
00:25:22.940
purpose? You know, what, what, what is the, what is the reason we're here? What is the, what's our
00:25:28.980
destiny? What, what is the, it, is there anything after this? I think they're all, so many of us are
00:25:34.640
searching for the same thing. And, and I believe that does fall into a few things. What are, why are
00:25:40.600
we here? What are we supposed to do here? And is there somewhere we're going when we die? And,
00:25:44.980
and I believe the people that have had the most fulfillment are the people that, that believe
00:25:49.980
they have found their purpose and their meaning in life. And those are the people that I have seen
00:25:54.720
have a lot or have nothing, but yet have the most joy, even in the midst of the hardest times.
00:26:00.180
I know so many people that have been missionaries in third world countries that have had so little,
00:26:05.540
barely food on their table. But when I'm around them, I'm most inspired because I see this crazy joy,
00:26:11.220
this crazy faith, this crazy fulfillment, even the midst of, of so such little material things.
00:26:17.360
But yet I see that and I want more of that. And then I'm around these other group that has
00:26:23.120
so much material stuff, so much in the world's eye success. And then very rarely do any of those
00:26:32.480
things lead me to say, I want more of that. Now, sometimes I see those people that have a lot of
00:26:37.140
success, but then they, they, they also have so much meaning and significance that comes from other
00:26:41.740
places. And I say, I want more of that, but rarely do I ever see it come from, from, oh, they just made
00:26:47.840
this crazy deal. They just got this crazy promotion or award. And you know, you don't, and especially
00:26:55.160
when you look at statistics, you don't see statistics say, oh my gosh, the more someone has,
00:27:01.240
the more joy, the more someone has, the lower the suicide rates. If anything, what you see is you
00:27:07.200
see slight trends in the other direction. And that should tell us something, that should truly tell
00:27:13.260
us something that there is something that is not fulfilling or satisfying about stuff, about money,
00:27:20.440
fame, and power. Yeah. And I think- I don't know if that answers your question.
00:27:24.400
No, it does. No, it does. And, and one of the things that you talk about in the book that I really
00:27:28.460
resonated with was, is how your purpose is to God, but then you fulfill that purpose through your work.
00:27:37.140
And I felt that even for myself, since I've been doing this for about seven years now,
00:27:41.940
I feel called, that's the word I use, called to do this work. I didn't know that when I started,
00:27:46.680
which is actually something I wanted to talk with you about again, also, because you talk about small
00:27:50.340
steps. Yes. But I don't talk about it a whole lot because I don't know that people would quite
00:27:55.160
understand the spiritual element of it because it's hard to see like, oh, so you podcast and
00:28:00.740
you feel called to podcast. Yeah. Yes, I do. But you talk about that in the book and that was a
00:28:05.100
really powerful moment for me. Oh, thank you. Well, first of all, I, I, why we even call it
00:28:10.180
Mission Possible, I think it's important to back up just for a second. Why we even titled it Mission
00:28:14.120
Possible is because I truly believe that every single person that has breath has purpose and every
00:28:20.340
single person that has breath has a mission from God. And that mission is something that is
00:28:25.800
possible. It's something he did not give us a mission that is impossible. Okay. He gave us a
00:28:30.860
mission that is possible. And it could be, um, to transcend your job. It could be to help the person
00:28:36.760
in your street. I think there, I think there's a macro mission, which is for the same for all of us
00:28:42.240
to love God and to love people. But then I think we've all been given different unique missions.
00:28:46.480
I think one of my biggest missions is, um, was started from when I met a boy in the jungles of
00:28:52.780
the Philippines who was born with his feet on backwards. And I knew that day and he was, because
00:28:56.520
of that, he was viewed as cursed, as less than it's insignificant. He was a throwaway. And I knew
00:29:00.600
he wasn't a throwaway to God. And I felt like God was opened my eyes to see that boy and opened my
00:29:04.940
heart to have compassion. And he was saying on that day, this is what I want you to do. This is your
00:29:09.820
mission. I want you to fight for boys and girls like him all around the world. And I want you to do it
00:29:13.820
till you can get to every single one of them. And that was a mission. I believe that started that
00:29:17.280
day. And that's what we're doing all around the world. But then it's continually grown and changed
00:29:24.120
and adapted and not changing. I'm not doing it, but you know, added to on top of that, opened my eyes
00:29:30.540
in my heart to those that were being trafficked and opened my eyes to the special needs community.
00:29:35.320
And so many things have, have grown from that. And I think that, um, you know, to those that are
00:29:40.900
listening right now, as I believe that, that you have been called and you say, well, how do you know
00:29:44.440
what my calling is? And first of all, I don't know. But one thing that I would encourage you is
00:29:48.340
have your eyes ever been open to a need, to a, to a, uh, to a person, to an injustice, to a
00:29:54.420
organization, to a, to a church, to a congregation, to something. And has your heart ever been pricked
00:30:00.520
to have compassion, to want to do something for it? And if so, that might be a good inkling to what
00:30:08.420
your, your calling might be of stepping into it. And it might be something little of starting
00:30:12.820
small with a small step. And you don't have to know where the end goal or the end destination
00:30:16.980
is, but start small and step in there and help and see what happens. And you know what,
00:30:21.840
for me, when I started and I stepped in, even though I didn't know, you know, what the end
00:30:25.700
goal was when I started, it was the most fulfilled I had ever been in my life. More than any championship
00:30:30.700
trophy, award, Heisman, anything. It was when I did that. And then it was okay. It's like almost
00:30:37.460
reaffirmed. And then you do it more and more and more. And now, you know, this is what you're
00:30:40.980
supposed to do. And, and maybe that's something similar to you as you started and you didn't know,
00:30:44.580
Hey, you know, order of man is going to turn into what it has, but I just feel like I'm supposed to
00:30:49.660
do it. And you do it and you do it and you do it. And all of a sudden, you know, it continues to
00:30:53.320
grow. And, and so for me, that was such a big part of, of, of wanting to write this was to
00:30:59.020
encourage people. You, you, you see a mission is, means a task or a job someone has given to do,
00:31:05.980
but its origin actually means to be sent, to send. And I believe every single one of us has
00:31:11.300
been sent here for a reason. And see, when you know, you have a mission means, you know, you have
00:31:15.200
a purpose. And, and that's important that we know we have purpose. And, you know, just in 2020,
00:31:20.880
there was over 6,000 suicides for people between 10 and 24. And I believe so many times when that
00:31:30.500
happens, it's because people don't believe that they have purpose. They don't believe there's a
00:31:34.400
reason. They don't believe that there is an actual, a mission for them here, that they have
00:31:40.120
great worth and value. And I want every life, not to, to think arrogantly, but, but confidently
00:31:46.900
that they are one of one. They were created in love, by love, and for love. There's a unique
00:31:53.760
purpose and plan for their life. There are no duplicates. All right. Their, their DNA is one of
00:31:59.880
one. They were created that way. And, and how they were created is not just for happenstance.
00:32:08.180
It's not just for, to meander through life, but there is a, there is a special purpose and
00:32:13.380
plan for their life. And, and why don't, they don't have to spend their life trying to be
00:32:18.260
like anybody else is because God didn't create them to be like anybody else. He created them
00:32:23.120
to be the best version of them. And 12% of our thoughts are spent in comparison every day.
00:32:34.220
It just seems like it's probably more than that.
00:32:35.940
I know we don't, but we don't have to spend our time comparing ourselves because God didn't make
00:32:39.660
us to be like anybody else. And you know, it's a staggering is over 60% of, of, of young people
00:32:46.140
say that there's nobody in the world that believes in them. And you know what? That's one of the
00:32:50.960
things that we're talking about here in order of man is that we have to have men step up and do
00:32:55.020
that. But even if, if dads haven't stepped up to do that, we have a heavenly father that stepped
00:33:00.820
up to do that. And you know what? I want every single one of these young people to know that
00:33:05.700
there is a, there is a, a God in heaven that loves them like crazy, loves them so much that they have
00:33:13.200
this worth and they have this mission and they have this purpose, but then to also know that it's
00:33:17.880
possible. You see when you possible means to be able, see, they are able to have a life that
00:33:24.140
counts. They're able to fulfill that mission. It doesn't mean they're able to have whatever
00:33:27.940
success they want or whatever status they want, whatever they want, but to make their life count.
00:33:33.400
I believe that is possible for every single one of us. See, I wanted to make this so encouraging
00:33:38.820
and enticing for people that it's possible, not that it's daunting. This isn't mission impossible.
00:33:44.460
It's in a Tom Cruise movie where they got to do these things that nobody else can do.
00:33:48.780
No, they got to do what they were created to do. And I want it to be encouraging for people
00:33:53.260
that when they pick it up, they say, I can do that because I was created for it. I can do that
00:33:56.900
because it's possible. I can do that because I just got to take a small step. I can do that because
00:34:04.640
I'm so, I'm, I'm, I'm really glad that you continue to talk on the small step thing, because
00:34:09.880
I think even if people believe what you're saying, they hear it and they're inspired and they will
00:34:14.380
be, I think by what you're saying, the next thought that comes to their mind is, well,
00:34:18.280
I don't have a cathartic moment. I don't, I've never had, you know, the, the God speak to me or
00:34:24.260
I've never had this moment. He's never spoke to me either. Listen, I never spoke, you know,
00:34:27.480
I might not be a good Christian, but he's never audibly spoke to me, but I tell you what,
00:34:31.460
he spoke to me in, in seeing other people and seeing lives and seeing people. And you know what?
00:34:36.120
I bet that if, if we opened our eyes a little bit more, I bet you a lot of those people that
00:34:40.100
said that I would say, well, have you ever seen a homeless man on the side of the street?
00:34:44.160
And have you ever felt compassion for him? Maybe that was him saying, Hey, do something.
00:34:48.820
Have you ever seen a, um, a third grader without a dad? And you've ever thought, Hey, maybe I
00:34:55.660
should just go have a encouraging conversation. Have you ever some seen someone in need? Have
00:35:00.260
you ever watched the news and said, man, I just, I wish I could help with do something.
00:35:06.820
Do start by doing something. It doesn't have to be big. It could be start by, Hey,
00:35:11.420
what, what's your skillset? Honestly, look at what's your skillset. What is the skillset God's
00:35:15.980
given you? Can you create things? Can you build things? Can you build a bunk bed for orphanages?
00:35:20.920
You know, what is it that you, that you can do? Cause I believe that God can use that and he can
00:35:25.880
enhance it. And what people, uh, in my opinion, and I've done this many times is I've kind of,
00:35:31.240
I think got so frustrated thinking, God, I just, I want to do something big, but I can't do that.
00:35:37.540
I can't do this. And then I'm reminded like the miracle doesn't come because we're so incredibly
00:35:44.960
equipped. The miracle comes because we give what we have to the miracle maker, right? And it's,
00:35:51.040
we're giving our loaves and our fish to the miracle maker. You see, when, when Jesus fed the 5,000,
00:35:55.940
it wasn't because, wow, this boy gave just enough for the 5,000. A boy gave his lunchbox,
00:36:01.840
right? And God could do whatever the heck he wanted to do with it. You know? And that's what
00:36:05.780
we have to be willing to do is like, God, we don't know what you're going to do with it.
00:36:08.740
But here's, here's the, even though I feel like it's just a little bit, even though I don't think
00:36:13.220
I can really do a lot, here you go. Cause the miracle maker is the one that does what he wants
00:36:17.980
with it. We just got to be willing to give, give that sacrifice, whatever, whatever it is for you.
00:36:22.300
Yeah. Willing to go talk, willing to go help, willing to go work, just step out a little bit
00:36:27.760
of faith and step out with our effort. And you have no idea what God can do with it. We have no
00:36:31.900
idea, but it can start in the little things in our life. How do you, how do you manage? So we talked a
00:36:37.440
little bit about expectations earlier. How do you manage your own expectations? You know, I see
00:36:41.140
how you show up, how you perform, whether it's on the football field or baseball diamond or
00:36:45.640
with your organizations and your foundations. And I know you're a competitive guy, like you wouldn't,
00:36:50.640
you wouldn't be to the level you are if you didn't have that competitive spirit and drive.
00:36:55.960
But how do you manage that expectation when you know, for example, there's all these people who
00:37:01.080
are hurting or struggling or suffering and you feel compelled and called and you can't do it all.
00:37:06.460
It's hard. I think that's where you got to know that God is sovereign and he's in control and he's
00:37:11.040
in control, control of all of it. And so this is where it's really important to understand God's job
00:37:16.760
and our job. Our job is not one where we can change hearts. We can't do that. Our job is not
00:37:24.160
one that we can perform miracles. We can't do that. But what does scripture ask us to do? It asks us to
00:37:31.540
love him and love people and love our neighbor. Who's our neighbor? Well, really, biblically,
00:37:37.660
our neighbor is everybody. And then when we understand what does love mean, we'll choose the
00:37:42.140
best interest of our neighbor and act on their behalf. So we see people in need, we go meet that
00:37:48.020
need. And then God shows up and he does his job, whatever he wants to do and show up in big ways
00:37:53.140
and small ways and miracle ways and all of these different things. But we can't think, oh, we can't
00:37:58.520
put ourselves and think, oh, we're God. We can't do that. But we also know that God has asked us to do
00:38:03.420
something. He's given us a mission and we can't think, you know, and I think it's really easy to fall in
00:38:09.860
this trap. Well, I see all of these hurting people and it's crushing me. And I, and I, sometimes I'll,
00:38:16.440
I'll definitely feel that, that weight, but it also, it urges me to do more. But then I can't think,
00:38:23.480
well, God, why won't you show up? Because I know that he has shown up when he gave his son his best
00:38:29.040
who had a perfect relationship with, and he, and Jesus was sacrificed for us on our behalf.
00:38:36.120
He did give his best. You know, he, he came through for us and, and in a way that even when we understand
00:38:47.220
the cross, we'll never understand everything of it, of just how that perfect relationship was severed
00:38:53.480
and the sacrifice of God, the father and God, the son, and what he went through. And the Bible says,
00:39:00.740
he not only took on sin, he became sin so we could be made right. And so God has come through for us
00:39:09.640
and he's given us this task, this, this mission. It's also the great commission. And to, as we go
00:39:17.440
throughout the world to bring the gospel. And so, yes, we need to do that with our, our words, but also
00:39:24.260
in my opinion is every day we share the gospel, but every now and then we use words as we also need
00:39:30.760
to bring what we believe with our actions, with the way we love, with the way we support and with
00:39:36.380
words. And all of this can be done with, with the way that we care for people and the way that we share
00:39:45.260
with people, but we can't think, we can't get overwhelmed by, and it's easy by the, the magnitude
00:39:55.440
of hurt around the world. It's easy right now. It's what's happening in Ukraine. No doubt. To get
00:39:59.900
overwhelmed. Right. And, but we have to know that God is sovereign. God's in control. It didn't catch
00:40:05.800
him by surprise. He is still in control of all of this. And I don't know why, you know, injustices and,
00:40:12.400
and hurt and, and harm come. I can't explain all of it, but I know that our God is in control of it
00:40:18.300
and that he's sovereign for all of it. And so I can't focus on that. I have to focus on what he's
00:40:23.280
asked me to do. And you know what, as long as I have breath, I know I have, I have purpose and I'm
00:40:28.080
going to go after every single boy and girl that I can to put, to bring faith, hope and love to them
00:40:33.420
in their darkest hour of need. And I don't know if we can get to them all. I don't know if, you know,
00:40:40.080
um, and I know at times we feel overwhelmed. I know it, you know, just in conversations this
00:40:45.600
morning, talking to our team that some of the people we're fortunate to serve with in the
00:40:51.480
Ukraine, incredible heroes. If you haven't been driving for 28 hours just to go and get food and
00:40:57.480
bring it back. And, and, and some of these moms have, have been bringing kids with special needs
00:41:03.220
and orphans to get them to a place of safety and going back and then writing back and saying,
00:41:08.660
I know that, that God's called me to stay. Even though I have a chance to go out to be in safety,
00:41:14.260
they come back. I mean, it's not just, you know, people use the phrase everyday heroes and I just
00:41:19.220
disagree. I think they're generational heroes, you know? And yeah, they're, they're, what you're saying
00:41:24.680
is their impact is generational is what you're saying. Is that how you're saying that?
00:41:28.800
Yeah. I think it's incredible. I think what they're doing is it's not just helping the people
00:41:35.540
of their country that they love and care so far so much. I know it's changing our team.
00:41:42.340
I know it's changed me. I know it's changing our president, the head of our serve team,
00:41:47.560
the head of so many teams that we serve with. And we just say, wow. Like it's one thing to talk
00:41:55.360
about it. It's another to see it in action. And this is another, this is another time seeing it
00:42:00.260
in action by heroes. And, um, and it's been incredible. Yeah.
00:42:09.240
All right, guys, I got to hit a timeout on the, uh, the podcast very, very quickly. I'm going to
00:42:13.400
get right back to it, but I want to give you good news. The iron council is officially open as of today.
00:42:19.480
So if you're not familiar with what the iron council is, it's a digital brotherhood with over
00:42:24.540
1100 men, all working on their own objectives and most importantly, helping you accomplish yours.
00:42:31.120
So when you band with us, you're going to unlock access to the brotherhood, accountability,
00:42:36.880
camaraderie, everything you need to accomplish all that you want this year. And you're also going to
00:42:42.220
gain access to our closed communication platform, which will allow you to have some of the deep and
00:42:48.820
powerful conversations with men who frankly, you may not be able to find in your area. That was my
00:42:54.340
problem. Anyways, when I started the iron council, uh, if you're anything like me, finding those
00:42:59.920
like-minded men has really proven to be a challenge. So we've brought them all in one place to offer
00:43:06.560
guidance and direction and resources that you need to thrive as a husband, a father, a business owner,
00:43:12.620
a community leader, a man in general. Now, again, we're only going to be open for a short period of
00:43:17.800
time about 10 days or so, give or take. So get registered as quickly as you possibly can at
00:43:24.280
order of man.com slash iron council. Again, that's order of man.com slash iron council for now, guys,
00:43:31.300
we'll get back to it with Tebow. One thing that I hear quite often from people, whether they either
00:43:38.160
vocalize it or they act as if, you know, they might look at you and I'm sure you've got this before is
00:43:42.260
you're talking about all these things you're inspired by and all these things you're doing and how you're
00:43:46.260
serving other people. And I think you're always going to have a subset of individuals who will
00:43:50.380
say things like, well, that's easy for you to say. Well, you know, of course, because they might look
00:43:55.280
at it and think, well, you know, Tim's got a charmed life. He's, he's super athletic. He's been
00:43:59.640
successful. He's had all these successes. And so, but me, like I can't do that, but he can, of course.
00:44:06.080
And so they almost dismiss what you've gone through, even the negative situations that you've gone
00:44:11.460
through thinking that everything you touch turns to gold. So, well, um, that's definitely not the
00:44:15.900
case. Try getting cut a bunch of times in your life. Well, not only that, but the public in the
00:44:22.500
public sphere, like if I get fired from a job, that's hard, but millions of people aren't going
00:44:28.320
to see that and judge me for that. Yeah. Try getting, you know, missing a block on ESPN and it
00:44:34.400
goes everywhere. Right. Exactly. It goes viral. Honestly, on the grand scale, it doesn't matter.
00:44:39.040
That's just, that's in our, you know, for our pride, it matters, but that's not real suffering
00:44:45.000
or persecution. And what I would say is I would go back to so many heroes of mine that the world
00:44:52.280
doesn't know. They've never heard their names. They've never been talked about, but yet
00:44:58.460
with little tiny platforms, they've been in communities in the Middle East or Southeast Asia,
00:45:09.040
or places where they've been persecuted or thrown in jails or prisons and have made incredible
00:45:14.920
impacts. And, you know, I just can go back to my dad and my mom twice in, in my life. And just in
00:45:21.500
mine, it happened more than that, but just in my little life of growing up, I got to see them where
00:45:27.020
they only were down to just a few dollars. And my mom says to my dad, we, we just, we don't have
00:45:32.700
anymore. It's just a couple of dollars. And my dad said, give the rest away, really give it away
00:45:37.680
twice in my time growing up that I can remember. And my mom's like, I said, it's okay. God will
00:45:44.060
provide both evenings. We had neighbors for different reasons come over that either had
00:45:51.040
extra food or made extra dinner and said, we don't know why, right? Just unsolicited. We don't know
00:45:55.240
why, but we just felt like we were supposed to bring y'all dinner, you know? And my opinion
00:46:00.040
is, is that, that faith, you know, and you, then you see God's faithfulness in it. And
00:46:06.720
you know, I, I can just go back to stories and this is another reason why my dad's such
00:46:12.660
an incredible hero of mine of when he's walked into villages and they say, you don't tell us
00:46:17.760
about your God. And if so, if, if you do, we want you to know that we're going to kill
00:46:22.660
you. And where does that come from? Like, why would they, why would they say they just,
00:46:28.980
their life is as bad as it is. They don't believe in God or, or sometimes, um, believe
00:46:34.120
in a different religion. And my dad lovingly and kindly would stand up and would share about
00:46:39.860
the love of Jesus. And even one time a man is, is in the back of the, the, uh, this open
00:46:47.560
field and he's has a machete and he pulls it out. So it's walking from the back up to the
00:46:52.640
front and he gets to the front and he's standing in front of my dad and he has tears coming
00:46:57.960
down the side of his face. And he said, uh, and my dad doesn't even know why, but when
00:47:02.780
he's preaching, he just puts on his heart to talk about forgiveness. And, and so when
00:47:08.380
the guy gets to the front, um, he, he looks at my dad and he said, well, will you forgive
00:47:13.000
me to my dad? To my dad. And my dad says, for, for, for what? And he said, I was sent here
00:47:19.980
to kill you. And he said, you started talking about forgiveness. And I just want to ask if
00:47:25.000
you would forgive me. And, um, wow. You just, and I mean, I, I just, you know, I think that
00:47:32.360
we serve a really big God and we don't know how everything works together. We don't know
00:47:37.340
how God is using all of the, the good, all of the bad, all of the pain, all of the sadness,
00:47:43.900
all of it. But I believe that he is, that he's using it and that he's working in lives and
00:47:48.660
that he's wants to work in our lives. If we let him.
00:47:52.200
Are there times where you've genuinely struggled with your faith, where you thought this isn't
00:48:01.000
I don't know if I, if I would say struggle that this isn't real. I was struggle to say,
00:48:05.920
how was all this working together? And I think sometimes I couldn't see it and struggle.
00:48:11.880
I think sometimes with, especially the pain in the hurt around the world and growing up
00:48:16.520
in the Philippines. And then, um, I think it was so incredible to be able to grow up in
00:48:23.440
the Philippines. But then as we did, we went to, we're in so many countries, you know, we
00:48:26.860
traveled all the time. And I think it was amazing with, with, with perspective. But then as you
00:48:32.680
see so much hurt too, that you just think like, it's a lot. Yeah. Why, why would he allow this
00:48:40.600
to happen? Yeah. Yeah. And it's, um, and I think that would be an area that I would say,
00:48:48.880
God, I don't understand. I don't get, I want to get it, you know? Um, but I wouldn't. And so
00:48:55.600
many times along the way, he would be like this thought of that he would put in my head
00:49:00.760
of, you think that because you care about them and they're hurting that I don't. And
00:49:10.400
then it'd be this thought of, you have never given your son for them, but I gave mine. And
00:49:22.680
yet you want to question how much I love them. Hmm. You have no idea how I'm working
00:49:28.920
all these things together for good. You have no idea. And then it'd be another thought
00:49:35.560
of, uh, I'm so grateful that I don't serve a God that I can fully understand because if
00:49:43.500
he's a God that I could fully understand, he probably wouldn't be a God worth serving.
00:49:48.460
But he is a God that I can fully trust because his character is trustworthy. I can fully trust
00:49:56.260
him because so many reasons, but mainly for me, because he gave his best for me. See, if,
00:50:05.380
if, if, if you had a friend and, and your friend gave his son to rescue you and your family,
00:50:16.600
would you ever question that friend again? No, of course not. Never. But yet we question God all
00:50:22.340
the time because we don't fully get it, but we don't have to question him because his character
00:50:32.760
is not questionable. His character is trustworthy. Even though we don't fully get it all, we don't
00:50:39.700
know how it's all working, but that's where I've tried to give it to him to say, I don't,
00:50:46.000
I don't get it all, but I know I can trust you and, and help me trust you more in the good,
00:50:54.560
in the bad, trust you more in the unknown, in the known when I think I know, but I really don't
00:50:59.920
in all those moments is that's when I hopefully, and I know so many times I haven't been, that's
00:51:05.640
what I hope my, my faith will be faithful, you know, in those moments also when I don't
00:51:11.780
get it or you're overwhelmed by hurt. How do you, how do you find the balance personally
00:51:17.440
between having that level of faith in God, but then doing the work that you have control
00:51:23.900
over? You know, you talk about in the book, a lot about the edge, right? And so you'll hear
00:51:28.280
people say things like, well, if it's God's will, and although I can agree to some degree
00:51:33.400
of what they're saying, a lot of the times they're shifting responsibility where it doesn't
00:51:36.920
belong. Yes. Yes. And yes, I, I, I get, I'll get fired up about this because, um, so you hear
00:51:46.280
a lot of pastors and speakers talk about, um, both sides of that, right? Like, um, work
00:51:51.440
like it depends on us and have faith like it depends on God. And then I heard actually just
00:51:56.060
Sunday, I heard, um, someone speaking and they said, do both, do both. Don't lean on one
00:52:02.860
side work like, like it does depend on us because God has given a mission for some reason. He
00:52:08.420
wants to use us and he calls us co-laborers. So go out and do the mission. It's one reason
00:52:12.780
that my dad is such a hero is because he wasn't one of those people that just talked about
00:52:17.260
it and raised his hand at church. No, he was like, yeah, that's good, but I'm going to
00:52:20.820
be about it. My life is going to be about it. And all of my actions are going to be about
00:52:26.700
it. And I want to be someone that I'm about it. It's not just, Hey, this is what I talk
00:52:30.580
about my faith. I want to be about what we're called to do, you know? And then I also want
00:52:36.560
to have the faith that says, I know that God's in control. I know that God is sovereign. I
00:52:41.200
know that he's working all things together for good that those who love him and those
00:52:45.400
are called according to purpose. And I can't see it, but I also want to trust it, you know?
00:52:49.800
And so I think it's, it's the battle between both of those thoughts, but I want to work like
00:52:55.340
it depends on us and have faith knowing that God is in control of those at the same time.
00:53:00.360
But I also believe that God has, he has put us here and he has given us talent, time, resources,
00:53:10.060
a skillset in each other to say, you know, we can make a difference and God has put us
00:53:15.600
here. And, and, and yes, he can, he can come through in big ways like he did with, you know,
00:53:22.160
feeding the 5,000, but he also wants to use us to come through for people. Right. You know? And I
00:53:27.960
believe that, that God came on a rescue mission for humanity through the cross to rescue us. But
00:53:35.480
I believe when you've been rescued, you're on the rescue team. And now we better act like we're on
00:53:40.640
the rescue team. I believe that those that have been graced or grace people, those that have been
00:53:46.940
helped or people that can help. Like we, we, we, you know, as believers, when you believe that Jesus
00:53:54.260
died for you and that he's rescued you from your sin, from your mistakes, from the ways we messed up,
00:54:00.520
like that's not to say, okay, I'm, you know, I know I got a home in heaven and I'll see you there one day.
00:54:07.440
No, it's to go take that to the world. Is it, if you really believe that it is the message that saves,
00:54:12.980
it's a message that takes people from spiritually dead to spiritually alive. The most selfish thing
00:54:18.420
that you can do is to not tell anyone or not doing anything. It is the most selfish act.
00:54:24.340
You know, so many times you'll say, well, you know, don't, don't be overly preachy. And I don't,
00:54:28.960
I never want to be that person that's overly forceful with it, but I do want to be that person
00:54:33.300
that is overly loving with it. And there's a difference, meaning that I want to show up.
00:54:37.440
How can I help? How can I love you? How can I care for you? And then when you ask why,
00:54:40.940
when you say, what is that all about? It is about, Hey, listen, I know that I'm a sucky person
00:54:46.480
that I've been rescued by a great God. And I want you to know that he loves you like crazy
00:54:51.080
and he wants to rescue you too. Well, I think there's also power in delivery, right? So,
00:54:56.020
you know, you might have a neighbor who's completely turned off with faith, for example.
00:55:01.040
For sure. And so you don't need to preach to them. You just need to go mow their lawn.
00:55:04.040
That's exactly right. That is exactly right. And it can start with that. And we think,
00:55:08.940
well, we go share with them and they're totally turned off. Well, don't, don't stop there.
00:55:13.480
Right. You know, don't, you know, like, Hey, like there's a lot of ways that we can go
00:55:19.480
open someone's eyes and we can share with them. And what is the most loving thing we can do is not
00:55:24.780
leave. The most loving thing we can do is to dive in, to say, okay, Hey, I just want you to know,
00:55:30.540
Hey, you know, we, we don't see eye to eye on that, but Hey, I want you to know, I'm still here for
00:55:35.400
you. I love you. How can I help? How can we build a relationship? You know? And it's not that you
00:55:39.940
shy away from the truth. It's that you dive into the truth that, Hey, I want you to know what I
00:55:44.520
believe, but I'm, even though we don't see eye to eye on that, I'm still here with you for you
00:55:50.160
because that is showing what I believe leaving isn't right. You know, right. Basing it on
00:55:55.300
their, their ability or desire to understand you is probably not really love.
00:56:00.120
No, but, and it's also looking at Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who
00:56:04.520
for the joy set before him, endured the cross, despised the shame and sat down at the right
00:56:07.720
hand of the throne of God. So when you look at his example, he loved us before we ever
00:56:13.060
loved him. And that is, he, he is our example. And, and so we're also called to love people
00:56:19.400
before they ever fall in love with what we're talking about too. And it's not just, we just
00:56:24.080
love them. Oh, when we agree, we see eye to eye, or we love them because they're go to
00:56:28.780
our church or we love them because they love the same things we love. That's not what it
00:56:32.800
is about at all. We love people that look different, that sound different, that are different beliefs,
00:56:38.120
all of that. Our love for people shouldn't be based on what we have in common in the sense
00:56:44.520
of material things. Our love for people should be based on what we have in common of meaning
00:56:50.360
that Jesus died for all, of meaning that he loves you as much as he loves me, of meaning
00:56:55.740
that when he said it is finished on the cross and kind of just as much for you as it did
00:57:01.260
for me, of meaning that when we say that we're all fearfully and wonderfully made, that you
00:57:06.300
are as valuable as me, that you were created in the image of God just as much as I was.
00:57:11.800
That's our common ground. Our common ground is not our looks, it's not your beard, it's
00:57:16.100
not, you know, whatever beliefs we have. Our common ground for all of humanity is that
00:57:22.160
we're all created in the image of God, is that he died for all of us, is that he loves
00:57:25.580
all of us, and I believe that he wants to have a relationship with all of us. That is
00:57:29.960
our common ground, and that is true for all of humanity.
00:57:33.660
You've had some changes with your career, even over the past couple of years, quite a few
00:57:39.540
changes actually. And one of the things that I've heard you talk about is how your path
00:57:44.880
changed due to COVID with the baseball season wrapping up, right?
00:57:48.500
And so, when you think about how much you're able to, you were disappointed, you talk about
00:57:53.600
that, obviously, and then your path starts to change, and you're excited now that you
00:57:57.900
can be more involved with your foundations and things like that. What does that look like
00:58:01.640
for your athletic career moving forward, relative to your level of involvement with your foundation
00:58:10.560
Yeah, I have no idea what's in store for sports. And I don't know. I think that I have
00:58:17.640
been, I think one example would be just this past fall when I'm on the Jaguars, even though
00:58:26.740
it's for a short time. And, you know, I get cut, and again, and...
00:58:33.540
Does it cut, does it, I don't want to interrupt, but does it, like, it doesn't, it can't become
00:58:42.780
And, and I go home, and I'm so, I have the most amazing wife, and I just go home, and
00:58:50.320
she's so supportive, and it's disappointing. I have so many great friends, and everybody's
00:58:55.260
so supportive of it, and saying encouraging things, but I gotta be honest, I'm still, like,
00:59:04.620
And, and, you know, I, I, I wish I could say it's just competitive, but I, I think I
00:59:09.580
let it get too much. I think I let it go too deep to where it controls me, where I can
00:59:16.580
The emotional, I let, I really do. I think it's something I've always struggled with.
00:59:21.500
You know, letting that, the goal and the drive affect you emotionally, spiritually, too
00:59:29.220
deep, you know? And, um, I was sulking and bitter, and it was right when all this stuff
00:59:36.520
started to happen in Afghanistan. And it's happening, and so we are trying to figure out
00:59:43.440
what we can do, how we can do, how we can deploy teams, help, all this different stuff.
00:59:47.480
And so, all of a sudden, um, you know, a few hours later, I find myself on a, on a plane
00:59:53.120
to the Middle East. And, um, it was, even though we're going to, to serve in a terrible situation,
01:00:03.440
so many people are hurting and are in harm's way. And man, it was just like, it was such
01:00:11.960
an encouragement from God that I got to go be part of trying to help because it was like
01:00:18.960
he was saying to me, you, you thought that, that it was supposed to be about a game. You
01:00:25.380
thought today you're supposed to be going to practice. I have a more important mission
01:00:29.660
for you today. And it's not to catch passes. Yeah. It's a go try to help lives. And I, I
01:00:38.840
was just so impacted and, and we, we got to, to do, um, um, in a hard situation to help a lot
01:00:48.140
of lives in that situation, but I couldn't have been as involved as, as a part. If I'm
01:00:54.180
playing, if that game is, is if I'm still on the team. Right. And I know it's going to
01:00:59.960
sound weird and probably some people won't believe it on the plane. I got to finally say
01:01:05.960
in that situation, God, thank you for, for letting me get cut. I mean, I say that very
01:01:14.340
humbly because a lot of times I couldn't say that, you know, like even after other, it took
01:01:18.580
me a while to say thank you genuinely. Thank you. Of course, you know? Yeah. But I got to say,
01:01:24.000
especially when I'm in some of the refugee camps and seeing it, thank you for letting me be here.
01:01:30.160
Like, thank you for, for letting me do this and not having me be where I wanted to be or where I
01:01:36.160
thought I should, or, or, or needed to be or where I think I, I should be based on talent. Right.
01:01:41.740
Yeah. But this is based on purpose. It's just so much more important. And it was just one,
01:01:49.520
another one of those times in my life where I think I just totally lost sight many times because
01:01:56.220
of sports and the challenge and the goals and wanting that success and success doesn't always
01:02:01.180
look like, Oh, it's this, this, um, reaching the top. It's could just be reaching what you think you
01:02:07.720
want, you know, what you, this is what I think I want, what I think I should have, what I think
01:02:12.660
I should get. And it was just like, God, I was like, no, you think you want that. I got something
01:02:17.740
better for you. Well, and also thinking about what you've worked for. Yes. Right. So it's not just
01:02:22.900
what, it's what you busted. And you think I put so much time in, right. This is what I need. This is
01:02:27.720
what I should have. Right. But it's just, I think so many times in his plan is when he stops one door,
01:02:33.360
it's, and we always use the phrase, he closes one door, he opens another. And so many times
01:02:38.160
you're like, well, I feel like all these doors are closing, you know? And, but I, I think honestly
01:02:43.920
though, it was just another realization and change where I just thought, man, you're, you're honestly,
01:02:51.920
God, you're just, it's so much better than I, than I would have even asked for. And I think so many
01:02:59.000
times God doesn't give us what we ask for because his plan is truly so much better. Not necessarily
01:03:05.580
the plan we have in our heads, but his plan for it. And man, I was just, I don't know if that
01:03:11.100
answered your question, but it was something I was so grateful for that, you know, I don't know what's
01:03:15.900
in store in sports, but I know that what is in store for what I believe my mission is just so much
01:03:21.820
more important than sports will ever be. And I'll always be grateful for sports because it gave me a
01:03:26.120
platform. Definitely. You gave me opportunity to, to do a lot of amazing things. Um, and I love
01:03:33.200
sports and I always want to be involved in them, but I'm so grateful that my life isn't defined by
01:03:39.340
sports. And I'm so grateful that my mission isn't just about winning a game, but it's more important.
01:03:48.220
have also with me lived the rollercoaster of sports.
01:03:56.120
But weren't able to get off and continue to live it because no matter how,
01:04:00.960
how good you do in sports, there's always a time where it ends.
01:04:05.180
There's always a time where you're not eventually good enough, even for the best of the best.
01:04:09.040
You know? And, and it was another chance for me in the Middle East to say, wow,
01:04:19.400
Well, Tim, this has been a powerful conversation.
01:04:23.960
I devoured the book. I went through it so fast. Um, it was, it was very inspiring, man. And it,
01:04:30.100
it lit a fire under me that I, I felt like I needed to lit as well.
01:04:33.620
Oh man. Thank you for, for what you're doing. And thank you for, for encouraging and inspiring,
01:04:38.860
um, men to be men and to step up. And it's, uh, it's encouraging for me to see, um, what you're doing.
01:04:46.980
And I really wish nothing but the best and pray nothing but the best for, for you. And, um, and for
01:04:53.880
all the guys that are watching, you know, I just, I hope they, they know their worth and their value
01:04:59.120
and they say yes to their mission. I believe that, man, could you imagine if all the guys watching
01:05:04.500
said yes, the impact that they could have on the world?
01:05:07.620
Yeah, no doubt. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you, man. Appreciate it. It's fun. Really fun.
01:05:11.640
All right, man. There you go. Uh, obviously an incredibly, incredibly powerful conversation.
01:05:19.880
One of my, if not the single favorite podcast that I've done over what 850 plus podcasts at this
01:05:29.080
point, and to be able to sit down with this man and converse and have a conversation and joke and
01:05:33.960
laugh and talk about what drives him. Uh, I don't, I don't know. That's a highlight for me and I hope
01:05:39.740
it's a highlight for you. I hope you're walking away with some valuable information that's going
01:05:43.320
to serve you again, as a father, a husband, a business owner, a leader in your community,
01:05:48.160
whatever capacity of life you're showing up as make sure guys, you connect with Tebow on Twitter,
01:05:52.880
Facebook, Instagram, uh, take a screenshot of the podcast, share it with everybody, you know,
01:05:58.020
share it far and wide tag Tebow tag myself, let people know his team, people that you care about me,
01:06:05.720
what you thought about the conversation and how it served you specifically.
01:06:08.940
Let's blow this thing up. Great, great opportunity to really blow up the movement
01:06:13.560
of order of man. And I'm going to do everything on my end as is our team.
01:06:18.060
And I ask that you do your part on your end. Also make sure you pick up a copy of his
01:06:22.920
latest book mission possible. We talked about a lot of the stories and anecdotes from the book itself,
01:06:29.760
but there's so much more, so much more. I listened to it. It was a great listen on audible,
01:06:34.840
but if you want to read it or listen, it doesn't matter. Anyways, pick up a copy of the book. You
01:06:39.460
will not be disappointed. And I guarantee it will inspire you to become a more capable,
01:06:44.840
more loving, more generous, more giving, more caring, more engaged man. And that's what we're
01:06:51.200
all about here. All right, you guys, hope you enjoyed the podcast. We'll be back next week or
01:06:56.460
actually no, we'll be back tomorrow for asking anything until then go out there, take action
01:07:00.580
and become a man you are meant to be. Thank you for listening to the order of man podcast.
01:07:06.120
You're ready to take charge of your life and be more of the man you were meant to be.
01:07:10.140
We invite you to join the order at order of man.com.