Tim Tebow is a former NFL Quarterback, Heisman Trophy Winner and founder of the Tim Tebow Foundation. He is also a New York Times bestselling author, and has a new book out called " Mission Possible: One Year Devotional: 365 Days of Inspiration for Pursuing Your God Given Purpose."
00:03:29.840No, I got to tell you, man, the conversation we had first is if it's not the highest downloaded podcast that we've done, it's a very, very close second.
00:03:38.480I'm going to have to take a look, but the guys really resonated with what you had to share.
00:04:06.900I think sometimes when you get a lot of competitive guys around each other, there is this pride that you want to up one when it's really, hey, man, we all need to pursue, you know, and challenge each other that you can get better and you can get better.
00:04:20.900Instead of me being better than someone else, it's, man, my goal should be to make you better.
00:04:25.120And so we're all doing that for each other.
00:04:27.400And I truly believe that's one of the most important things that we can do is how can we lift each other up?
00:04:33.040Not just, you know, lift ourselves up because we're competitive and we get full of pride, but no, you know, we can lift each other up.
00:04:40.120That's the best form of iron that can sharpen iron right there.
00:04:42.540Yeah, I mean, I think when you look at it and, and you begin to believe that the pie is finite, that if you get, I can't have, then you turn into that competitive environment and competition, you know, is not inherently negative.
00:04:55.900It's how we utilize it because it does lift us up when we decide we're going to be competitive in a healthy way with other people.
00:05:03.280And I don't think it's that you want to squash that competition or that drive.
00:05:08.240I think it's, you want to channel it into the right areas.
00:05:10.720One of the things I'm so grateful for that my parents didn't do is they didn't squash my drive and my competitiveness because Ryan, I got to tell you, I, from the, like the moments I could breathe, I was insanely competitive, like over the top.
00:05:23.660Like, you know, my first games playing T-ball, I was telling the coach, like, you know, he would tell us, no, it's all about, you know, enjoying it and having fun.
00:05:41.380And they were like mortified at me because I was just really overly competitive, arrogant T-ball player, you know, four or five years of age.
00:05:50.740What they tried to do was channel it into being competitive for things that matter.
00:05:54.840Be competitive to be as nice as you can.
00:05:57.200Be competitive to give as many things away as you can.
00:05:59.980Be competitive to get to as many people, to love as many people, to care for as many people.
00:06:05.480And man, that just was something, you know, they even instilled this rule in our family is that every time another adult would give my parents a compliment on our character, that they would give us a dollar.
00:06:18.020We'd show up to events or we'd show up to church and I would be competitive.
00:06:21.160I was like, okay, I'm going to get as many compliments as I can, right?
00:06:23.960And so, even though we didn't necessarily do that for the right reason, it was still teaching us that we could still use our drive and our competition, but we could use it for good.
00:06:37.420And I'm so grateful because now I feel like I still try to use my drive and my competition, although it's not for sports anymore, it is to get to one more hurting kid and one more girl that is being trafficked and one more kid that has been thrown away and one more orphan that doesn't have a family.
00:06:54.260And that's my drive is to get to that one more because we all need to have that one more that we are driven to get to.
00:07:00.200Do you ever get any, well, I know the answer to this, but I'm very curious about your take on those individuals who believe that you have this powerful message of one more, one more orphan, one more person that you can serve.
00:07:13.880And yet they'll look at it and they'll think, okay, well, he's got book sales and he's got this and he's got that.
00:07:18.860And what's the balance between making money, right?
00:07:23.800And actually trying to do good and serve and add value into the world.
00:07:27.840I know the answer to that question, but I think there's a lot of guys who have a hard time reconciling the two.
00:07:35.860Well, I feel like there's an opportunity for every single one of us to make an impact.
00:07:40.100And every one of us has been put and being given a platform, an environment and an opportunity to use it.
00:07:47.240And some of us have been given what we feel like is a bigger platform.
00:07:51.780And sometimes we feel like it's a smaller platform or we feel like we don't have a good skill set or I'm unequipped.
00:07:57.360But every one of us is in a unique position in a unique environment and background to make a difference.
00:08:04.100And maybe just one example from this morning, but we were in the St. John's Town Center and we were giving away books and we gave some and we were dropping them different places because we're excited about the drop and to create some fun and excitement.
00:08:18.400And we dropped some off at Clean Juice and some other places.
00:08:20.740And we're pulling out of the town center and we're right there at a red light.
00:08:24.760And there's a young girl that is sitting there with the sign.
00:08:27.320And we roll down the window and, you know, Kevin on our team hands her some cash.
00:08:33.100We had a book and I just said, hey, this is a book that's just coming out.
00:08:56.020But in that moment, it would have been easy for us to just drive to the next location and drop off next books and try to worry about one more book.
00:09:02.460The whole purpose of the book is so that we remember that she is worth everything just for her at that red light.
00:09:08.360This young girl that needed help, that needed care, that needed to be connected to a group of people that could love her and support her and care for her.
00:09:16.220And, you know, it was just such a reminder, even in the midst of, hey, this is exciting.
00:10:01.700But the question is, are we willing to do it?
00:10:04.700Are we willing to stop in the middle of the day and all the things we could do and meet those needs of the ones that we believe God has put in our path?
00:10:12.700For us to stop and share with her and encourage her and connect her with people that really can help her in the middle of a time where she desperately needs it.
00:10:21.120I don't know if that answers your question, but that was just a moment today.
00:10:23.600I don't know either, but it was awesome.
00:10:25.320I don't even remember what the question was.
00:10:26.700Look, here's the cool thing about that is it's so easy for us and myself included to get caught up in the grind and the minutiae and I got to sell this many books and I got to have this many downloads.
00:10:39.820It's so easy to get wrapped up in that, that we forget that it's not really about the numbers and the downloads and the bank account.
00:10:47.540It's about, did I reach somebody today?
00:10:50.600Did I reach a man who's struggling with his relationship or struggling with alcohol or struggling with pornography or struggling because he lost his job?
00:11:00.180Like that one person is more important than a million downloads, for example.
00:11:05.040But we get so wrapped up in that future that we forget about the present.
00:11:09.020Yeah, and I think that is one of the biggest tricks and lies of the enemy is that it is about accomplishing all of this rather than actually focusing on the individual because you are exactly right.
00:11:21.920It is more important to reach one young man today that maybe there's something that you or I say that could impact him or encourage him or actually let him know his worth and his value.
00:11:32.880Because you know what a lot of the illustrations you just named are going to give, they're going to give shame and they're going to give guilt and they're going to give the feeling of unequipped or not enough.
00:11:41.620And that's just not true because, you know, one of the areas that I loved about Mission Possible is we also created this mission mindset.
00:11:50.240And, you know, we had an acronym for mindset and number one is in mindset.
00:11:55.740It is to know your maker, know your maker.
00:11:58.040And one of the reasons why I always want to start with that is because I want people to be confident in who they were created to be.
00:12:04.900And Ephesians 2.10, it tells us, for we are his masterpiece created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand for us to walk in.
00:12:24.380Well, what's fascinating is when you understand context and culture about Paul writing to the church of Ephesus, then you know that in the city, there's one of the seven ancient wonders of the world that everyone would have known about.
00:12:36.320And it was the temple of Artemis, or some would say the temple of Diana.
00:12:39.400And they would have been able to see this and they would have, everyone would have known.
00:12:42.920They would have called it a masterpiece.
00:13:33.860I'm unequipped or I've gotten caught up in this or I got fired or I didn't make this team or I'm all these things.
00:13:38.580And, you know, some people want to say that you're not enough.
00:13:41.040And I want them to know that once you've said yes to Jesus, you are a masterpiece in Christ and there is good works for you to do.
00:13:48.280And I want them to know that because when you know that, it also gives you confidence that, wait a second, I'm not here by happenstance.
00:13:54.360I'm not here by accident, but I am fearfully and wonderfully made.
00:13:57.580I'm here for a purpose because I was created on purpose.
00:14:00.440And I know that, you know what, I'm not perfect and I've messed up, but there's one person who was perfect and he loved me enough to change me from the inside out and he has good things in store for me.
00:14:10.060And so it starts by knowing your maker.
00:14:11.580And that's the start of a mission mindset.
00:14:13.280When we actually have that mindset, it starts by knowing your maker.
00:14:19.900Because there's so many men, and again, myself included, who have been beat up, banged up, gone through challenges, gone through adversity, sinned.
00:14:28.940And we hear that message and are inspired by it.
00:14:34.760And then the next question is, how do I bridge the gap?
00:14:37.680Like, how do I go from feeling this sense of worthlessness to a sense of inherent worth just because I am?
00:14:48.760Well, I think it starts by believing that you truly are fearfully and wonderfully made.
00:14:56.600You were created on purpose for a purpose.
00:14:58.760And that the son of God really does love you enough to give his life as an exchange for yours.
00:15:05.860That's, wow, as the propitiation, the payment that satisfies.
00:15:09.780You see, what it also does, Ryan, is it when we believe that Jesus really paid our debt on the cross, that means that he also loved us enough.
00:15:20.140That means he values us enough, not because we did anything to deserve it, but he loved us so much that he demonstrated his love for us that while we're yet sinners, he died for us.
00:16:02.640So if it's true about what Jesus did on the cross, that someone who has infinite value and worth was willing to give his life in exchange for yours, then how much life does every single young man that is watching right now, how much worth do they have?
00:16:20.200Wow, I would say it's infinite value and worth because someone with infinite value and worth gave his life as a ransom for theirs.
00:16:27.680So, you know what, when they're thinking, oh my gosh, I'm not enough, or you know what, how can I take those next steps?
00:16:34.360First of all, they need to know their value and worth, not so that they leave arrogant, but they leave confident in who they are and whose they are and who they were created to be.
00:16:43.000Because there's going to be so many times in our life we're going to sit there and we're going to say, man, I'm a failure and I'm messed up and I'm not enough.
00:18:34.100Look, one of the things that you mentioned as you were saying that, as you talked about purpose, that you've been here and you're here for a purpose.
00:18:41.540And you talk about that in your book when you're devotional as well.
00:18:46.320How does a man begin to find his purpose?
00:18:55.480But there's still a course that each of us needs to travel.
00:18:58.140I feel like, because we've had a couple of conversations now, clearly you're somebody who's found your purpose.
00:19:05.000I personally have found my purpose, but I know what it's like to be in a place where you don't feel like you have purpose or you're just wandering around aimlessly.
00:19:15.220And it's a horrible position to be in.
00:19:18.800And, you know, there's been so many studies and we could go through so many of them that that will share and show how purpose literally adds so much to your life.
00:19:29.400Some studies will even say it adds days and times and years to your life, having purpose or not having purpose.
00:19:38.720There's a lot of experts that would hop on here and would tell you all the different ways to try to find it.
00:19:44.220But for me, there's been two practical things that I have in all the years of trying to think about it that I've really thought about that have impacted my life is, number one, when have my eyes been opened?
00:19:58.660When have my eyes been opened to a need, to a person, to an issue, to a people group, to a country?
00:20:06.160When has my eyes been opened and has my heart been pricked for it?
00:20:09.880See, when I was 15 and I had the chance to meet Sherwin in the Philippines, who was a boy that was born with his feet on backwards and his village viewed him as cursed.
00:20:19.020You see, that day, my eyes were opened to something that I really hadn't seen before.
00:20:46.100I just knew my eyes have been opened to something that I hadn't seen before.
00:20:51.100And, gosh, I just got this stirring in my heart to do something about it.
00:20:55.580And I feel like when those moments happen, that even though we don't know the end result, we got to step into that moment.
00:21:02.440We got to step in and do something about it.
00:21:04.460We got to step in and, you know, it might not even be our final destination, but it might be another learning point in our life where God can continue to open our eyes and continue to prick our heart and lead us down the path that we're supposed to go.
00:21:18.760And I would just encourage the guys that are listening to this that, man, what are those moments when you really feel like, hey, my eyes were open to this and my heart was pricked.
00:21:31.260Because I would encourage them to step into that moment.
00:21:34.400You know, and one of the things that we use in mission mindset is the I is to be interruptible, right?
00:21:40.800And so many times I feel like, well, I'm in the middle of class and I'm in the middle of work.
00:21:43.760And I don't care when that happens, be interruptible, step into the moment, right?
00:21:48.420Step into the moment and say yes to it because you have no idea.
00:21:52.340One example of that in my life was we were in Austin a couple of years ago and we were leaving at dinner and there was a homeless man to the right side of me.
00:22:03.220And I just knew I was supposed to stop and get out and talk to him.
00:23:13.480But maybe there's someone else that you could give me the chance to encourage or share with.
00:23:19.800And so there was all this traffic leaving downtown.
00:23:22.460And so I was like, just pull down this little avenue.
00:23:25.640And while we figure it out, I pulled down this avenue and there was a couple of men sitting right there.
00:23:30.320And so I was like, OK, hey, y'all go jump out and share with him because I was driving and I couldn't get out.
00:23:36.620So they jumped out and then the one way traffic was pushing us.
00:23:39.800But that part of our group left their phones in the car.
00:23:42.520So I couldn't call them and traffic was pushing us.
00:23:45.240So it just happens to be how God does just cool stuff.
00:23:48.240The one way traffic that was forcing us down these back alleys.
00:23:50.920And literally, I was like, well, I'll just take this one more alley and see if I can get back around.
00:23:55.100I pulled into this alley and right where I pulled up to was over 100 homeless people that I pulled right into.
00:24:04.360And I couldn't find that young man, but I was able to get out and share with a bunch of these people and love on them for a little bit.
00:24:13.900And then, you know, reuniting with the rest of our group.
00:24:17.260And we spent most of the evening hanging out with them.
00:24:20.040And it was just one of those moments where, you know what, I missed the first shot, but I still wanted to be interruptible.
00:24:26.700And I wanted, you know, even though it's not what a lot of people are planning on doing on their Saturday evening is, you know what, I knew I was supposed to go back.
00:24:33.160And maybe there's some, you know, something that's applicable for some of the people that are watching.
00:24:38.180Maybe they feel like, man, my eyes were open.
00:25:12.520I go through my own personal struggles daily too.
00:25:15.180And I'll tell you that the factor that has contributed more to me overcoming these hardships is having men in my corner that I can talk with, that I can get counsel from, have some accountability to, and just be there fighting their own fights alongside me.
00:25:32.460So if you're looking for that, I can tell you that the brotherhood that we've created inside the iron council is second to none.
00:25:39.880I don't need to get into all the details about it today.
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00:25:48.820Have a look at the short video and see if it's something you think will help.
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00:27:29.720It just, for whatever reason, it hit me again.
00:27:31.780And I, and I, I finished up whatever I was doing and I went downstairs and I could tell she was a little bit upset.
00:27:37.420And I said, Hey, I don't, I don't want to interrupt you.
00:27:39.940I don't know what you're, what's going on right now, but I, I've, I had this thought about nursing and I just wanted to tell you that I wanted to encourage you that for whatever reason, I'm feeling like there's something there.
00:27:56.960I just feel like I needed to tell you that that's, that's been on my mind.
00:28:01.820And she's like, it's funny that you would come to me right now because I'm sitting here replaying that experience and I'm thinking about that myself.
00:28:10.460And it's these, these moments that if we just interruptible, I like that.
00:28:15.780And if we just stop and listen and then act, I think all too often we're waiting for these big grand moments to slap us across the face or lay it in our laps.
00:28:24.940When it's moments that are seemingly coincidental or insignificant, that if we just take a small little step could lead into something so much greater.
00:28:37.720And I think it's so important that we do take the steps and that we dive into it a little bit more.
00:28:44.520And that doesn't mean it's the end result, but it does.
00:28:46.500I do believe that you will learn more about, you know, the next steps and what you're called to and what you can find purpose in and what, how God can use it than just going back to the, whatever you were just doing.
00:28:58.320And I feel like sometimes what happens and, and, and I, I've even been guilty of this so many times myself is, you know what?
00:29:05.760I just don't think that we necessarily learn that much from is when we go home and we just turn on Netflix or we just scroll.
00:29:14.360And we're like, well, I thought you were going to, you know, God showed me the next steps and what is my purpose?
00:29:18.660Well, I don't know how much we're going to learn.
00:29:21.920I mean, God can do anything, but I just don't, don't see it a lot where we're like, Hey man, I just really found my purpose.
00:29:27.120Cause I hit the next, you know, Amazon prime show or I just watched the next game.
00:29:39.120We might not know it all, but we can continue to take those steps and learn more.
00:29:42.820And what I also feel like that is it's either solidified in us or we also are encouraged in different directions.
00:29:50.740And so we continue to grow and grow and grow.
00:29:53.180And I feel like one thing that's, that doesn't help us grow is when we just go to the easy mind numbing things that aren't necessarily wrong.
00:30:00.800I'm not saying that it's just, I just don't think if you're really trying to step out and grow and find your purpose, you're going to do that.
00:30:07.760Just scrolling or watching the next Netflix show.
00:30:10.720And I'll tell you, I've done that so many, so many times in my own life.
00:30:14.200And, you know, and I'm not saying that can't be okay to, you know, take a break for a little bit, but man, if we're looking for your purpose, it's probably not going to just be on the next show.
00:30:23.360But you know what, when, when you have those opportunities, like you're describing and like I was sharing about in Austin, if we just step into those, I do feel like we're going to learn more about, you know, what fulfills us and what drives us and maybe what could be our calling or purpose or that next step that we can take that could ultimately lead us to that calling.
00:30:42.020Yeah, for sure. Look, one of the, well, we, we just got right into it. I wanted to mention that you've got the new book, one year devotionals coming out and I'm, or actually it's out as of today, when we record today, it releases. Yeah, that's right. That's right.
00:30:57.560This one's coming out a couple of days after that, but tell me about the purpose and the reason and the mission behind writing that and putting that information out to people.
00:31:06.360And to encourage people, man, every day when we wake up, there's a lot of competition for our time, for our energy, for our thought process, for our happiness, for our joy.
00:31:23.640There's so many things that want to steal it, that want to take it, that want to capture us. And, and I just really wanted to write this one year, 365 day devotional to walk with people for a year of every day when we wake up, man, this is probably between honestly, two and five minutes every day.
00:31:41.020That's all it'll take. And it's a little bit of scriptural scripture and a little bit of practical. And there's also about a month's work of amongst the devos that are amazing young people that I share some of their stories and how they have overcome so much.
00:31:55.640So, you know, there's a, there's some scripture and there's some practical, and then there's also some amazing testimonies and some impactful prayers.
00:32:03.140But every day, if you just, you know, start it, it'll take two to five minutes max, but maybe that could be enough to, you know, to move the mindset from a mindset of, hey, today it's all about me to a mindset of, it's actually about other people.
00:32:16.740From a mindset of, you know, from a mindset of, you know, hey, what more can I take versus what more could I give a mindset of, hey, today is going to be all about, you know, just getting through today versus thriving in the day.
00:32:30.680This is going to be a mindset versus, you know, you know, how much can I take versus actually being grateful for all I've been given and, you know, and trying to adjust that mindset because when we, when we can start the day with the right mindset,
00:32:46.740that everything else that we see is through a different lens, you know, and encourage people, let's try to see life through a different lens, not a, not a lens of, hey, what more, you know, praise, promotion, platform, status, but a mindset of worth, value, significance, humanity, love, care, blessings, being grateful.
00:33:11.140You know, when, when we actually see it through a different lens, not only is our life going to be full of way more joy, way more gratefulness, it actually has a, it has a chemical, our body actually has a chemical change in response for the better.
00:33:30.200It's actually something that is good for our bodies to wake up every day and be grateful and to be able to start in prayer and start in truth and start in the right way that it's not only the right thing to do, but it's also the right thing for our bodies, which I think is, is pretty cool.
00:33:46.740And there's even been studies that have come out recently about people that have been, the more devices and the more tech and all this stuff that we're, we're, we're feeding ourselves, which I'm not saying it's all bad because it can be used for great things.
00:34:00.540But so much of the more that we consume actually in a lot of studies has led to more loneliness and unhappiness.
00:34:10.120And it's like, what, what, wait a second, what we're feeding ourselves is actually giving life or it's taking life, right?
00:34:18.520And so just like it's important when we're training to be as strong and as fit and as we can, we got to give, we got to give myself the fuel that I need to go live out the goals that I have.
00:34:30.360Well, in the same way with our mindset for life, we got to feed ourselves in truth.
00:34:35.460We got to feed ourselves in inspiration.
00:34:37.240We got to feed ourselves in the right nourishment to go out, live that out.
00:34:41.460Because if all we're putting in is stuff that's going to make us look through a lens, that's going to say, it's all about you and you should be unhappy and you should be ungrateful and you need to change and you need to be like somebody else.
00:34:54.300You know, every day, 12% of our daily thoughts are spent in some form of comparison.
00:34:59.820Like we can never, we can never be all that God has for us and all we want to be and go after everything we have when 12% of our daily thoughts are spent wishing we were like somebody else.
00:35:13.040Ryan, if we were supposed to be like somebody else, God would have made us like somebody else, but he didn't.
00:35:17.800And God hasn't made a mistake and it didn't start with any single person listening.
00:35:21.220He's never had an oops moment and none of us are oops.
00:35:23.660So when we understand that, then I also know, man, although I can respect and look up to other people and have a lot of people that are role models of mine, doesn't mean that I need to try to be like anybody else.
00:35:34.800I need to be exactly who God made me to be and try to do that in the best way possible and say yes to him by trying to dive into his word and start every day on mission because I know I'm here for a mission and I was created on purpose.
00:35:48.680And I know that I have a purpose and I'm going to say yes to that purpose.
00:36:16.600It's a little card with a scripture reference and a motivational quote or thought or mindset.
00:36:23.720And he does this every three to four days.
00:36:25.440He just sends it to me, no explanation.
00:36:27.720And I'm telling you what, that little message makes such a huge difference, not only because of what it is, but because I know somebody cares enough to take time out of their day to do that.
00:36:36.180And I think we ought to be very careful of overlooking the importance of these small little messages on a daily basis.
00:36:47.180Sometimes we hear, you know, motivation is bullcrap and it's like, no, it isn't.
00:36:53.400There's power in it if we can harness it and use it correctly and drive us to action.
00:36:57.160No, there's absolutely power in it and it can drive us to action and we need encouragement and we need inspiration and we need fulfillment and we need purpose.
00:37:21.660It doesn't mean that we're going to, you know, all figure it out or we have all the answers.
00:37:25.720We're all on this journey together and that's why I love what you're doing so much is because you're encouraging, you know, guys and you're encouraging young men.
00:37:33.700And honestly, a time where there's not a lot of encouragement for them and there's not a lot of support systems and there's not a lot of areas where they can go to say, you know what?
00:37:42.860I'm supposed to be a guy that has it all together and you know what?
00:37:45.660Sometimes I just don't feel like I have it all together.
00:37:48.080And you know what I want to say to them is, you know what?
00:37:51.460And you're still loved and you're still valued and you're still awesome and you still have a great purpose and all of those things.
00:37:58.820Like we need to also build up all these young men because there's not a lot of areas that they can go to right now and be built up because they're supposed to have it all together.
00:38:30.000Where do we need to send the guys to figure out more about what you're doing and pick up a copy of the book?
00:38:34.320They can get this devotional anywhere that books are sold.
00:38:39.620So they can get a Barnes & Noble, Books A Million, Target, Walmart, Sam's, Amazon, all the other different places.
00:38:45.300And, you know, I just, my hope is that, man, if it's something that you're interested in picking up, that we could just go through life together, man.
00:38:52.780Two to five minutes every day that it could just be an encouragement.
00:38:56.000Maybe just be able to tweak the way you see life and you go about it.
00:39:00.180And maybe because of that, some of the decisions could be different.
00:39:03.100And maybe because of that, maybe some of the things we're all running through and agonizing with, maybe we could alleviate some of those and just get more fulfillment and more purpose and more mission-driven living every day.
00:39:17.480Because, man, when we are able to live that out, even though it doesn't all go perfect and we still mess up and fall short, man, the joy in that is so much different.
00:39:28.080Then when we just say yes to the here and now, and we just say yes to the things that ultimately don't bring a lot of fulfillment.
00:40:11.800It was such a special conversation and an important conversation based on what I know a lot of you guys are dealing with that we wanted to release it as a bonus episode for you and make that happen.
00:40:23.420And I hope, again, that you found some value from it.
00:40:25.480Go pick up a copy of his book, The One Year Devotional, 365 Days of Inspiration for Pursuing Your God-Given Purpose.
00:40:32.240And while you're there on Amazon or Barnes & Noble or wherever it is you get your books, make sure you consider picking up one of those signed copies of The Masculinity Manifesto at store.orderofman.com.
00:40:44.240And last, make sure you check out The Iron Council at orderofman.com slash ironcouncil.