Order of Man - Trying Times with Kids, No More Jiu-Jitsu, and Preparing for Red Dawn ｜ Ask Me Anything

00:00:00.000 if he woke up this morning and had all his vision back today would be the best day of his life if

00:00:06.800 he had all of his vision but yet today i woke up with all of mine i woke up with my hearing i woke

00:00:12.880 up with with my body working but yet what today's not a great day for me yeah it gives me a perspective

00:00:18.800 of of being grateful for my faculties right for my health and and really puts any of my complaints

00:00:27.040 in in perspective you're a man of action you live life to the fullest embrace your fears

00:00:34.720 and boldly charge your own path when life knocks you down you get back up one more time every time

00:00:40.960 you are not easily deterred or defeated rugged resilient strong this is your life this is who

00:00:47.760 you are this is who you will become at the end of the day and after all is said and done you can call

00:00:53.920 yourself a man kip what's up man so great to see you we were uh talking taxes before we hit record

00:01:02.240 and now both of us are in a bad mood absolutely absolutely i'm impressed that you're doing your

00:01:07.840 taxes right now oh no taxes for 2023 we're finalizing got it got it got it so don't be impressed man you're

00:01:17.680 like getting ahead of it our profit and loss is already figured out behind it got it yeah well

00:01:23.200 no i don't think i've done my taxes on time for probably i don't know five ten years that i've

00:01:31.920 always had to extend it's always a mess yeah it's i'm gonna do it right this year though because

00:01:38.800 most people don't know this you were saying that if they're w2 employees they're never gonna know

00:01:42.880 because the taxes just get taken from their check and they see what their net take home pay is but

00:01:48.720 when you're an entrepreneur you're you are writing that check out yourself and not only are you writing

00:01:54.480 it out yourself you have to write it out quarterly yeah if you don't write it out quarterly then you get

00:02:00.320 hit with uh interest and penalties so that's part of what i'm paying now so i'm gonna make sure we do

00:02:07.360 it right this year and get everything paid as it should have been paid and hopefully we don't have to

00:02:12.000 get dinged with an extra we'll just say thousands of dollars we'll say unnecessary yeah yeah five

00:02:20.240 five or four times so yeah anyways there it is well we're gonna do this a little different today i'm

00:02:25.840 gonna ask you questions this is the very first podcast of the year this is gonna be released on

00:02:32.720 january 1st 2025 so very first podcast of the year i'm i'm uh begrudgingly noticing a trend that

00:02:39.760 more and more people like to hear more about what you have to say on the ask me anything than i do so

00:02:45.920 i figured let's give the people what they want we'll talk about that today hardly i'll tell my

00:02:50.240 mom to stop sending you messages yeah she's like setting up alter ego and fake accounts all these 1.00

00:02:56.080 people like totally uh normally we do announcements i don't i don't think we have any announcements but i

00:03:02.000 did want to do a call out and i wanted to bring this up because i mentioned it briefly it was probably a

00:03:06.880 month or so ago about something andrew huberman is doing that i really appreciate do you remember

00:03:12.720 me talking about this i remember us talking about it and you're like remind me kip to bring that up

00:03:17.360 and i never got and i totally forgot to remind you well people know if they've been listening to the

00:03:22.560 podcast and you know i like andrew huberman i think he's an intelligent person i think he's got a

00:03:28.240 lot of great information to share i'm not as smart as him so when i hear it i'm like this is all foreign 0.83

00:03:35.360 to me and it's two hours of a foreign language or longer that i can't understand he must have

00:03:41.440 he must have heard me say that though because he started doing on his podcast it's called i think

00:03:48.080 the essentials and it's usually about 30 to 40 minutes of a in-depth broad topic that he narrows

00:03:55.040 it down to the relevant and pertinent information i'm like there you go that's what i can handle

00:04:01.280 which has been really cool i was listening to one the reason i wanted to bring it up i thought this

00:04:04.560 was fascinating i think sometimes guys like huberman and other jordan peterson and other

00:04:09.600 intellectuals explain concepts that common sense already tells us is true but there's always a

00:04:17.280 little bit of information that you can get from it and i think the way my brain works is i don't need

00:04:23.200 all the details all the intricacies all the ins and outs does it work why does it work got it do it

00:04:30.480 but not everybody's like that but he was talking about uh plasticity in the brain narrow plasticity

00:04:36.480 which is a fascinating subject to me if you don't know what it is it's basically the brain's ability

00:04:42.080 to adapt and adjust and pivot it's really cool yeah so he was talking about where when you become an

00:04:50.240 adult how quick or excuse me how slowly your brain rewires itself relative to when children when you're a

00:04:58.400 child when you're a child it happens really fast you pick up on feedback and your brain and synapses

00:05:04.560 change quickly but when you're an adult it's significantly longer it's kind of like the old

00:05:09.680 adage you can't teach an old dog new tricks yeah that's a little bit of of that adage but they did

00:05:15.440 some studies a colleague of his and they had people wear these prism glasses and there would be for

00:05:20.560 example a pen on the desk and the prism glasses would make it look like the pen wasn't where it is but

00:05:27.520 seven or ten or fifteen degrees off and then he would tell people reach for the pen and pick it up

00:05:32.880 and they'd miss it you know they'd miss it and over time they'd gradually learn where it is and very

00:05:37.280 quickly start to make those adjustments but the the few things that i thought were interesting was

00:05:43.120 number one he said that the best factor or the most important factor for neuroplasticity is making

00:05:51.920 mistakes yeah it's making errors it's being frustrated with not getting it right that is

00:06:00.560 your brain's mechanism for telling you something's not working we need to make a new wiring or new

00:06:05.840 connection because this is not working and he said that the people who have the aptitude for

00:06:11.360 perseverance through frustration are the ones who can hardwire their brains the fastest and the most

00:06:18.400 most effectively over time he also said that because adults take longer and developing neuroplasticity

00:06:25.680 and new habits new routines new thought ideas that you can accelerate that as an adult based on the

00:06:34.480 stakes so when they did the study they had these individuals do the pen thing but there's no real stakes to

00:06:43.520 that but then they did the study and said okay you can eat only after you get this right

00:06:51.440 and when eating was thrown into the equation the neuroplasticity the ability to do it faster picked

00:06:57.840 up that much quicker too which i thought was interesting so the stakes at which you're playing your ability to

00:07:05.920 make mistakes and be okay with it and then he also said as an adult that you have to make incremental

00:07:12.800 changes it's very hard they put those prism glasses on and it's very hard for someone to change if the pen

00:07:20.480 is off by you know 45 degrees or whatever it might be but if the pen is off by 7 degrees and then 14

00:07:29.680 degrees and then 20 degrees and then 40 degrees and so on we're able to adapt better if it's incremental

00:07:36.880 changes which leads us to a lot of the things we're already doing in our battle plan yeah we're not

00:07:44.400 telling guys to solve all their problems as quickly as they possibly can we're saying just take one thing

00:07:50.720 just one thing we're going to work on this one thing do everything else the same but work on this

00:07:55.520 when you get that wired and it does wire then we can move on to the next thing so i think it just kind

00:08:00.560 of supports a lot of the work that we've been doing that i believe we've just intuitively known

00:08:06.320 but it's cool to know the data and the science behind it yeah i love that he i picked that up

00:08:11.040 from him a few months ago he was doing an episode on uh what he called like it's the same thing stress

00:08:18.160 is an enhancer right with a growth mindset if you have a growth mindset and you involve stress

00:08:23.200 your ability to change and learn skyrockets and it's interesting he didn't say this but i i've come

00:08:31.840 to my own thought process around this growth mindset with stress not just stress all by itself

00:08:41.440 and i think it's fascinating because when you start looking at your childhood

00:08:45.760 did did stress generate change for a lot of us absolutely is the stress or the change always

00:08:52.800 positive the answer to that is no sometimes the lessons learned aren't good lessons

00:09:02.080 right right yeah true they're defining moments that we get to live with as adults

00:09:07.360 so the growth mindset being involved with it is what's critical right stress in itself is an enhancer

00:09:14.800 yes but an enhancer of what for what bad negative self-talk and self-confidence or

00:09:21.840 an enhancer for growth and a growth mindset is what the belief in one's individual to rise above to

00:09:28.000 continue to learn and get better right and so right that mindset is critical with the stress you could

00:09:33.440 just have the stress and now we're we're learning all kinds of things that are enhancing us but they

00:09:38.320 may not be to our benefit yeah yeah and the only other thing i would add to that is the stakes so you

00:09:45.040 have the growth mindset the the the um stress and then the stakes at which you're playing and the

00:09:51.360 interesting thing i i think about it anyways is that you can manufacture the stakes yeah you know for

00:09:57.840 example if if you're like oh going to the gym is hard but you're like no if i don't go to the gym i'm

00:10:02.480 gonna die now you're not gonna die today probably if you don't go to the gym at least you're not gonna die

00:10:07.840 from probably health being out of shape or overweight it might but probably not but if you

00:10:13.760 connect it to hey if i don't take care of myself and do this on a consistent basis i'm literally

00:10:20.160 putting my life i'm shaving years off of my life those are greater stakes that causes the change to

00:10:25.920 happen quicker and more effectively totally i love it yeah all right man well let's jump into questions i

00:10:31.600 wrote all of these questions down i did not solicit any of these questions from everybody these are

00:10:36.000 questions i've wanted to ask you some of them are fun some of them are interesting maybe thought

00:10:44.000 provoking and some of them might be a little bit sensitive so let's get into it let's go my my first

00:10:50.640 question why are you the way you are what's wrong with me you mean exactly we'll get into that we'll break

00:11:02.400 that down a little bit more throughout the uh throughout the episode all right here's here's

00:11:07.760 the first real one okay who is your favorite child and why oh man i'm kidding because my kids listen

00:11:17.520 every so often all right i'm gonna get you some real ones here oh yeah sure sure i trust you now because

00:11:24.240 the last two questions you know you said that so all right here we go um complete pivot do you have

00:11:32.560 any lingering contention and animosity towards your ex-wife and if so what is it and how have you dealt with

00:11:42.080 it no really no i don't i don't um i did right for a long time absolutely i

00:11:54.400 a term i like to use i had a heart at war towards her i felt that um

00:12:03.120 our approaches of whether to stay married or to get divorced that we weren't aligned

00:12:09.600 um there's areas that i felt like at the time she didn't handle it well threw me under the bus maybe 0.82

00:12:16.640 look bad you know i i had all these stories um that i did have animosity towards but absolutely not

00:12:25.440 anymore and and luckily not anymore because it doesn't serve her and it doesn't serve our kids for

00:12:35.120 me to have any of those feelings towards her and and and and to be really clear i'm not saying i'm

00:12:42.720 pretending like oh i just pretend everything's okay actually no i i think i finally got to the point

00:12:50.560 where through empathy um i chose to love her and appreciate her and and and have some empathy

00:13:02.800 around her circumstance and the tough job that she had um as a mom and realizing that a lot of the

00:13:12.960 burden and suffering that that we think are at the hands of other individuals are often them just

00:13:18.640 dealing with their own circumstances and there's a lot of stuff i took personal that i shouldn't have

00:13:23.600 taken personal um and so no not not at all hmm was there a was there a pivotal moment where

00:13:32.320 i mean i'm not sure it was like a hallelujah type moment but was there a moment that you can

00:13:36.080 remember where you thought oh my gosh i'm not angry or upset or frustrated anymore yeah i don't know if

00:13:42.640 there's a particular moment um i i would say this though as long as i held on to try trying to fix

00:13:51.920 things or get back together with her it was it i still had motive and that motive was to like win her

00:14:03.360 back or to do something and it was selfish and and so it wasn't really like i would say when i let her go

00:14:11.840 like really truly let her go and be okay with with our marriage being over that wasn't until i did that

00:14:21.680 i wasn't whole and complete with the situation because i had alternative motives still you know

00:14:28.880 trying to manipulate her or hope that she's going to like me or you know what i mean other things and

00:14:32.560 it wasn't until i really let go that that i was kind of whole and complete but fairly early on

00:14:38.560 i i realized i was being a victim i was blaming her for everything i was taking zero accountability

00:14:45.680 and and i i got to that i mean i say this i'm like i got to that point fairly quick

00:14:51.520 probably four years post-divorce you know it took years for me to really be okay with her being her 0.95

00:14:57.680 hmm interesting all right next question if you could never do jujitsu again

00:15:06.640 nope but you could choose any other martial art yeah nah i'm out but you could choose any other

00:15:12.000 martial art just one what would it be muay thai really yep yeah absolutely what do you like about

00:15:18.960 muay thai obviously heavier striking muay thai is basically kickboxing with knees and elbows correct

00:15:24.880 absolutely yeah okay i think it's the most practical i may get grief for this i think it's the most

00:15:30.640 practical stand-up out of them all right use of all six points knees elbows great kicks

00:15:38.160 uh has some great boxing feints i i i think it's an amazing martial art do you do you train muay thai

00:15:46.480 at all right now um not right now i have in the past yeah yeah why why not just because you want to

00:15:52.960 focus heavy on jujitsu or have you thought about rounding that out oh i totally thought about rounding

00:15:57.520 it out still like i would love to do some just a time thing or what yeah time if i had to choose

00:16:03.440 yes yeah okay well there it is you have spoken kip has spoken jujitsu is best muay thai a second best

00:16:12.880 all right um who well who would win if it was kip at peak muay thai performance and kip at peak

00:16:19.200 jujitsu performance who would win that fight well if we go to the self-defense element the jujitsu guy

00:16:26.720 i would because i would just walk away no okay cute and clever but give me a real answer 0.99

00:16:34.800 you guys are in an altercation there's a fight there's peak muay thai kip peak jujitsu kip who

00:16:40.640 wins i think jujitsu wins wait for the kick shoot in take him to the ground grab his leg take him to

00:16:47.200 the ground yeah hopefully you just don't get hit too hard before that happens essentially don't get

00:16:51.520 knocked out yeah yeah all right this one's a bit of a sensitive one so let me know how you feel

00:16:56.800 about it so you have a son and i'm using this term you can use a different term if you want or maybe

00:17:01.680 there's something more appropriate but you have a son with a degenerative physical disability is that how

00:17:06.560 you would is that fair yeah yeah i think that's okay obviously that weighs heavy on him but how does

00:17:13.440 that weigh on you personally and what types of conversations do you have with him since you don't

00:17:20.000 fully know what it's like to go through what he's going through yeah yeah um to give some context so

00:17:27.040 he has usher syndrome um at birth he failed his hearing test uh within a couple months as an as an

00:17:37.200 infant he had little hearing aids so our mindset from a parenting perspective was we have a kid that's

00:17:43.440 deaf and back in the day you would think deaf is like you hear or you don't hear deaf is

00:17:49.840 actually a spectrum and so he's legally deaf but he has hearing and if he uses his hearing aids he

00:17:56.800 can he can hear right but it's it's still bad right like you're still like yelling right sure yeah

00:18:03.040 um and then roughly i think when he was about maybe 12 or 13 um he we noticed that he was like tripping on

00:18:13.440 things especially at night time really easily um had his eyes checked uh and his retina um is failing

00:18:21.760 him and it's getting worse and worse and and then that raises a red flag like oh this is a genetic

00:18:28.000 thing because when hearing loss and vision both are degenerative that's usually usher syndrome is what

00:18:35.040 it's called and the the vision typically doesn't become an issue for most people with usher syndrome

00:18:42.720 until they're like in their 30s so my son getting this at 13 was obviously devastating to him but like

00:18:50.160 even doctors were like you have six months and it might be lights out so luckily for him it hasn't been

00:18:59.440 as aggressive as we as we thought but he's probably down to about five percent vision um right now so

00:19:06.320 if you were having a conversation with him he can look at your eyes or your mouth

00:19:10.160 that's how small and and just think of it as like a the whole of the donuts getting smaller and smaller

00:19:16.000 and all peripherals non-existent right and so um so he has vision loss so back to your question

00:19:23.120 um what was the first part of that how do i deal with it sorry well i said it weighs heavy on him

00:19:31.200 that's obvious you know and i i i really want to hear how that weighs on you as a father and as a man

00:19:37.280 yeah well i mean i think as a parent yeah all you really want for your kids is for them to have a good

00:19:47.040 life right and experience life and and to find happiness and peace and joy uh and grow and and

00:19:54.960 find fulfillment uh in their lives and so by default you know when we first found out and even now it eats

00:20:03.520 at you that that there's a an experience of life that that he won't get to his experience ever right

00:20:12.480 um now certain elements like he will be but um you know but it's limited and and it comes with the

00:20:21.440 burden you know there's some big things that cross my mind like um will he get married uh is a girl

00:20:29.120 that's going to choose to marry him she's signing up a big responsibility more than most women ever will 1.00

00:20:37.760 and and will that deter women from wanting to be with him and to marry him um you know i'm fearful of

00:20:49.520 the morning or the day i get a phone call where he says dad i woke up this morning i can't see anything

00:20:55.840 anymore i hope that that never happens but i feel like

00:21:11.120 that scares me

00:21:14.400 um and there's a sense of and and he might even deal with it better than i would but i think there's a

00:21:20.480 sense of loneliness in that in that experience and no one's experiencing it with him just him

00:21:28.320 and so that kind of breaks my heart

00:21:32.640 to um think about him going through that

00:21:36.560 um and ironically like the burden on me are you joking like um what do i have to complain about

00:21:46.160 yeah so so if anything what what helps me and i've used this analogy a little bit but if he

00:21:58.080 woke up this morning and had all his vision back it would be the best day of his life probably

00:22:06.800 today today would be the best day of his life if he had all of his vision

00:22:10.480 but yet today i woke up with all of mine i woke up with my hearing i woke up with with my body

00:22:20.160 working but yet what today's not a great day for me you know so perspective yeah it gives me a

00:22:27.920 perspective of of being grateful for my faculties right for my health um and and really puts any of my

00:22:37.920 complaints in in perspective yeah what types of conversations are you having with him

00:22:47.040 the way i framed the question was knowing that you don't to your point just a second ago you don't

00:22:52.880 have to deal with that you don't know fully what it's like to be in his shoes so what types of

00:22:58.160 conversations are you having around that and still realizing i don't really know because i'm not in

00:23:04.320 your shoes i've never been there before yeah you know it's it's interesting i i don't feel

00:23:11.040 like many people could deal with his circumstance the way he can

00:23:17.600 i really don't i do you think he was born born with the the characteristics or whatever it is that

00:23:23.520 make him able to deal with that or is that something he's learned because of the disabilities

00:23:28.000 he has i think it's it's him losing his hearing when he's younger set him on a path of having to

00:23:35.760 deal with something that that he could have easily claimed as unfair and all these other things but he

00:23:43.200 chose not to and so i think it did prepare him to deal with his vision uh later on i think there's an

00:23:51.760 he's a very spiritual young man um he's a saint um in many many ways and so i i think it's probably a

00:24:04.480 combination of his personality but also a combination of his condition that has really helped him um rise

00:24:10.240 to the occasion and and i really don't feel a lot of people would like if i compare him to our other

00:24:16.240 kids and they know this you know if they had the same condition they they would not handle it even

00:24:22.320 close to as well as he's handled it so he he has a an aptitude and an eternal perspective that really

00:24:28.880 has allowed him to to deal with his circumstances well i imagine it's in his circumstance it's i i don't

00:24:36.080 know how could i but i imagine it would be significantly harder than if somebody was just born completely deaf

00:24:42.960 and completely blind and or blind like it's way it would be what i don't want to say easier that's

00:24:49.120 not the right way to look at it maybe it's just harder knowing what you've had and you're losing

00:24:54.960 that you know yeah and i think the fact that the vision has been slower has really allowed him it like

00:25:03.600 it's been it's been degreasing like i mean how long has it been

00:25:07.760 you know for eight years it has gotten a little worse a little worse a little worse and so the

00:25:14.240 gradual worseness has not made it like black and white like oh my gosh i lost all this vision

00:25:19.520 if you ask me today is it worse today than it was yesterday you'd say no and the answer to that would

00:25:23.520 be no for the last eight years you know what i'm saying so yeah so that has helped him get into

00:25:30.080 it i think a little bit as well yeah i imagine there is a day hopefully in the not too distant future

00:25:36.880 where he would be able to put on a pair of glasses that would basically sync with his brain and the

00:25:44.320 glasses would be cameras and the brain would be reading the images that are coming through the

00:25:48.640 camera i i don't think that's too far-fetched i think that's probably not that far away for

00:25:53.680 something like that to happen yeah i don't think so either and and back to your question because i

00:25:58.240 think it was a a good one i want to make sure it gets addressed you know conversations with him have

00:26:03.840 always been don't don't let don't let your situation dictate how you show up and and he's been great

00:26:14.480 from that perspective you know i've gotten in trouble with his mom for letting him drive and all kinds of

00:26:21.520 things primarily just because i'm like it's his vision is going to get worse and you know i'm going

00:26:28.080 to let him drive i don't care you know now not anymore it's bad enough that it'd be reckless he'd

00:26:33.920 kill us all but when he was younger when he was like 13 absolutely um because i realized that was

00:26:40.800 going away he still skis we went skiing last last year so you know blind guy on the ski slopes plowing 0.91

00:26:48.720 down the mountain now he wears a vest that says blind skier you know and i kind of yeah and i stay in

00:26:55.440 front of him to try to like eliminate any obstacles that might be coming his way um so it's great he's

00:27:04.160 still living life still doing things we went ice skating last week you know and he was nervous about

00:27:09.200 it because it's dark outside so his vision's almost like 100 gone in dusk and dark um but he still

00:27:15.840 got on skates and i skated and so he's still living life that's awesome yeah that's awesome

00:27:21.920 um okay another pivot here if order of man was your business and you could do whatever you wanted

00:27:30.480 to do with the organization what's the first thing you'd either change about the way that we do it or

00:27:38.000 add to what we do yeah put me on the spot here i am man i got a lot of these that are on the spot

00:27:46.400 um no i want to know the truth i mean i'd want to know i value your opinion so yeah we've talked

00:27:51.760 about this i i think there it's been highly valuable for men to meet you know when we used to do those

00:27:59.520 meetups you we would have guys rally on teams to try to get their whole team there and that was special

00:28:06.240 and a lot of guys on these teams go out of their way and have events across the nation they fly in they

00:28:14.240 make things happen so they can see each other i think we could facilitate that better um i would

00:28:20.560 i would love to get to a point where when you join the iron council based upon your geographic location

00:28:26.640 you get four teams to choose from based upon that geographic so then that way when we do an event in

00:28:33.120 that region the probability of that team being there skyrockets and and i would regionally assign

00:28:39.760 people to teams um just to help promote that possibility we could pro we could probably do

00:28:47.680 that now we could just start a team and and i've i want to find the most densely populated areas of the

00:28:55.360 united states initially for the iron council and then start a team based on that that region yeah so

00:29:02.000 good i like that i think we're on the same page there um if you could change one physical

00:29:09.120 one mental and one emotional characteristic about yourself what would it be

00:29:19.440 one physical well just here we'll go through each of them physical characteristic oh man

00:29:26.080 better looking yeah i mean stronger strong a smaller sorensen forehead i don't know

00:29:31.200 um no i wouldn't i wouldn't mind i wouldn't mind it it's getting harder and harder as i get older

00:29:39.760 to keep my strength where it is and so um i wouldn't i wouldn't mind being stronger

00:29:47.840 i don't like wish i've i feel like i could yeah i mean i could still make that happen right like i don't

00:29:53.600 think it's like outside of my control um i don't know maybe keep my hair maybe a little bit longer

00:30:02.240 i'm assuming it's on its way um all my brothers are i have i have five brothers all of them are are

00:30:08.560 are bald for the most part oh really yeah so the fact i have any hair is is a miracle in itself so

00:30:14.560 um yeah i don't know mental mental um

00:30:23.760 i i i would say to myself or what i wish for myself is what i wish for all all people and that is to

00:30:32.480 truly realize their potential i would love to know that um to to know what's possible

00:30:44.560 um to have better confidence in in one's ability and impact in the world i think if i

00:30:51.200 that's interesting that if you knew then that makes you kind of question if you did know that

00:30:58.160 would you do your life you would you would obviously do your life differently right you

00:31:01.600 you'd live it more boldly i would think i think so too yeah so interesting yeah unless your potential 0.94

00:31:08.800 was like oh your potential from here is just shit so yeah yeah clarity your potential you 0.91

00:31:15.200 really don't have any potential yeah so i'm assuming yeah i'm assuming you already reached your max 0.98

00:31:22.080 maybe that would be depressing actually you're like hey god could you show my potential you're like

00:31:27.360 actually you did better than i thought you would do you're like you've already seen it you've already

00:31:31.360 seen it it was it happened 10 years ago you remember that that's what it was yeah you're on

00:31:36.320 you're on your way down the hill now all right how about how about emotional anything you'd change

00:31:42.320 about your emotional attributes characteristics

00:31:55.200 i

00:31:58.320 i i take things too personal sometimes

00:32:01.200 if and that's why i like for agreement so much because i need it

00:32:09.200 i realize how let me ask you this question because this i really do feel this way for me

00:32:16.400 when i'm in a good mood like i'm happy when i'm happy anything can happen in those circumstances like

00:32:24.720 i don't know someone could call me a dipshit you could be mad at me my wife could be mad at me

00:32:28.880 and my ability to deal with those circumstances is super effective because i'm not taking it

00:32:35.120 personal and i feel great i feel great and and so i can resolve i can show up better i could do all

00:32:40.400 those things better but when i'm taking things personal man i'll take something that that is minor 0.63

00:32:46.480 and make that shit way more serious than it should be and it doesn't benefit me and it doesn't benefit 0.80

00:32:52.480 anybody else um let's stay on the same vein i had another is that the same way with you do you feel 0.98

00:33:00.720 that same way um no i don't take things personally yeah i don't i i don't know i don't think i ever have

00:33:09.840 and

00:33:13.600 yeah i don't think i ever have and i think i'm actually pretty good

00:33:16.320 at getting over things if i feel slighted or upset or i or if i do happen to take something

00:33:22.480 personally yeah i can you move on i can usually compartmentalize it pretty well yeah yeah that's

00:33:27.600 great yeah i wish that's yeah i mean that's a good thing um i can't find the question in here but it

00:33:32.560 was something like um if you could take your worst flaw that you think it is whatever that is okay and

00:33:39.120 you could trade it in like you could get rid of it completely okay but you had to pick up another what

00:33:44.480 we would generally consider a flaw what would you trade for what oh man i don't know if i'd trade

00:33:51.440 i mean even in this circumstance take things personal guess what that guess what that is

00:33:58.880 allows me to have some wicked empathy more than probably i think more than the average individual

00:34:06.640 and so even even in saying this thing that is a flaw of mine i i see how it can be a superpower

00:34:18.240 you know that's a good perspective i like that perspective yeah and and so i don't know if i'd

00:34:23.280 trade it right because i i think i'm just going to trade another you know what i mean it i lose some

00:34:29.200 superpower with that trade and and luckily i've learned to take advantage of that and and use my

00:34:36.480 ability to be empathetic to my advantage um and i think it's one of my benefits around um my

00:34:44.320 different positions is is my my ability to be empathetic yeah you know how to utilize that that

00:34:50.960 weapon already yeah that's good yeah um okay so here's here's kind of a fun interesting one if jesus

00:34:57.040 christ was walking on the earth today and he asked to spend the day with you but he wanted to learn from

00:35:03.600 you not you learn from him he wanted to learn from you what would you teach him

00:35:10.000 arguably the most perfect person that's ever walked the earth wants to learn something

00:35:14.560 it might not be look it might not be a lesson necessarily but maybe you want to teach him

00:35:21.760 something or showing something cool or go on a cool experience or you know what i'm saying yeah yeah um

00:35:28.720 maybe get on the mats see i knew you that's what i was thinking what kind of jujitsu jesus has you

00:35:42.160 know what i mean like does does he get triggered a little bit i'm he you know he threw away table

00:35:46.880 you know turned over tables and yelled at people so maybe i'd try to push his buttons on the mat piss 0.59

00:35:51.760 him off and say hey hold on is this anger like like satan anger is this like jesus anger happening

00:35:59.040 here you know righteous anger or unrighteous the thing about it you know uh when you talk about

00:36:05.600 jujitsu it's always you know chess right everybody says it's like chess the problem is he knows everything

00:36:12.160 so he already knows exactly what you're gonna do when you're gonna do it where you're gonna put your

00:36:17.120 hand where you're vulnerable yeah he has some he probably has some voodoo jujitsu that we haven't

00:36:21.920 invented yet right and so i feel like yeah i learned some stuff from him um so i and i'm being serious

00:36:27.760 like i'd i'd roll with him the other thing that that is a kind of a passion of mine over those last

00:36:33.520 couple years and i find this fascinating i can nerd out on this what you've you've been in this

00:36:40.720 experience i'm sure ryan at certain points in life when you've gotten training it sticks in other

00:36:46.080 cases it doesn't stick oh totally and and there's been times where my paradigm has and i'm using this

00:36:53.120 term but my paradigm has shifted like i walked away and i'm like i am a different person i see the world

00:37:00.400 differently that's like amazing right and in in scripture right christ had the title of master teacher

00:37:09.760 and so in a corporate america environment i'm like all right master teacher mr perfect so what is the

00:37:18.080 perfect learning development strategy how do you teach people in a way that that allows them to learn

00:37:24.960 and grow in no other way possible what is that right and i would love to nerd out with jesus around

00:37:34.800 bloom's taxonomy the different levels of comprehension and understanding and learning

00:37:39.360 the the concepts of parables um i don't know like all of it i i i would totally enjoy that

00:37:48.560 conversation from a from a yeah yeah i've nerd out um i've got a lot of questions so i'm just

00:37:55.440 trying to pick out the right ones for the sake of time here uh okay here i don't i don't generally

00:38:00.560 like false dichotomies you know that but they but that being said they are good thought experiments

00:38:06.400 they're good questions to provoke some thought and there may not be an answer but it's worth

00:38:11.440 considering so here's my false dichotomy what is more important to be moral in your day-to-day

00:38:18.400 dealings with everyone or protect and provide for your family if it meant that you had to be immoral to do it

00:38:26.800 um moral day-to-day more over protecting and providing for your family okay that's different

00:38:43.840 than i would say personally so why do you say that because i think that's the long game

00:38:49.200 more of the eternal game yeah and it's the eternal game but it's also i think it's the game that

00:38:56.560 actually proves out so i i think there might be a lot of tendency in our lives that i i'm i'm forced

00:39:06.240 my current circumstance is whatever i got to win in this circumstance so i'm going to make a tactical

00:39:10.720 victory that compromises integrity and morals and often those choices require an additional

00:39:20.800 questioning of integrity tomorrow and the day after and like when when do you call it but i actually do

00:39:27.440 feel that when we're morally focused when we're in integrity day in and day out things kind of work

00:39:33.840 out eventually i think so and i might lose the battle today but it's going to be fine people will

00:39:41.440 rally people see your honor people will come to your aid all these other things align and it's funny

00:39:48.880 some religions what do they call that karma right but give it whatever label you want i think

00:39:56.560 strategically that will always win in the long term yeah i mean i agree with that and that's why it's

00:40:02.880 this false dichotomy because i agree with what you're saying but also if let's say my family's

00:40:09.280 starving and i needed to go shoot a deer but i don't have a deer license i'm gonna go shoot the deer

00:40:14.960 yeah yeah you know what i'm saying or or i have to choose between a stranger and and my kids like

00:40:23.040 i'm gonna choose my kids yeah absolutely so they're you know and i know you know that and that's why this

00:40:27.840 is that kind of that weird thought provoking exercise but it is something it is interesting

00:40:34.400 to consider how far you would go to protect and provide for your family like what everybody says

00:40:39.600 oh yeah i'd do anything i'd do anything well what do you like what exactly do you mean there's a there's

00:40:44.800 a couple of guys that i've heard and this makes a ton of sense to me i think i first heard it from

00:40:49.360 one of my friends he's a fitness trainer josiah novak and and i think i saw something like

00:40:54.320 you know you say you do anything for your family but you're not willing to diet and go to the gym 0.90

00:41:01.520 to be a better father to lead them well i'm like damn yeah you're not willing to live for them 0.93

00:41:06.480 yeah exactly yeah yeah interesting okay um 0.96

00:41:16.880 let's see i got that one

00:41:20.240 i wrote this is there any legitimate reason for a man to drive a car instead of a truck

00:41:27.440 it depends if it's a stick shift and if it goes really fast

00:41:31.760 fair that's fair okay so there is so you're saying yes

00:41:34.320 yeah that's a good point there's the exception and and anyone that says otherwise they haven't

00:41:39.280 had a chance to ride in a ferrari on a racetrack yeah that's that's fair i didn't think about that

00:41:45.360 but that's fair uh years ago i took my my two boys my two oldest boys uh down to las vegas and we went

00:41:53.600 to the um the race the racetrack where they do you can test drive cars and all that stuff anyways my son

00:42:00.640 my second son's really into cars he wanted to do the drifting so it was this dodge charger or

00:42:06.560 challenger i don't know what it was and it was all black and so we get in the car and the lady's 0.88

00:42:11.600 like getting us all settled in and the driver's already sitting in the car he just pulls up

00:42:15.520 and she's like all right well once you put your seat belt on like he goes yeah when he sees that

00:42:22.880 click he goes and i'm like okay so the boys get their seat belts on i put my seat belt on and he

00:42:29.040 goes and just takes off and the seat belt pops out i didn't put it all the way in so it's i'm like

00:42:36.640 trying to like get the seat belt to let go and it won't go because we're drifting so now the seat

00:42:41.280 belt is all locked up i can't even put it on but it was incredible he uh so there's a bunch of people

00:42:48.320 on the racetrack that are driving test driving things like that he was drifting around the people

00:42:55.520 driving their car not just drifting around corners on the inside drifting around them it was amazing

00:43:02.160 to see that skill and the experience of it was really cool yeah i'm sure you had like a permanent

00:43:06.560 smile on your face first time i've been on a racetrack i i i drove actually a ford gt if anyone knows

00:43:13.120 cars oh yeah i was lucky enough to drive one of those cars but i went on some racetracks on some

00:43:18.960 with some ferraris and the whole time man my my my mouth was sore from smiling because it was so fun

00:43:27.280 yeah yeah it is so fun um all right if you could mirror not be but just mirror one historical figure

00:43:37.040 flaws and all who do you think that would be is there is there a figure that sticks out in your mind to

00:43:42.320 you george washington that's my knee-jerk reaction is that too but why do you say that um so

00:43:48.800 i've i've read a lot around george washington right and so the the things that came out that have

00:43:55.840 i've learned about him that i like really admire is one he was very assertive individual

00:44:06.560 he he wasn't passive in any way um he was bold he was very religious and very spiritual man

00:44:16.080 um i love the fact of the level of of his humility with that boldness i love that aspect of him

00:44:27.200 that that multiple opportunities he literally served his country in a position of authority and he didn't

00:44:35.200 want it but was willing to do it for the greater good and and i don't think give me a politician that

00:44:44.480 operates from that perspective yeah right he is our first president that never ran for president

00:44:52.080 well he probably could have been made a king yeah yeah absolutely and and i just find it amazing amazing

00:45:00.320 like and um so yeah his boldness but his humility um and and i and i and from my understanding of him

00:45:09.600 he was very caring but he but he also held people accountable and expected them to show up powerfully

00:45:18.800 as well but he did from a caring caring perspective there's another interesting thing about getting

00:45:25.360 people to show up like he he was notorious for the way people looked and the way they kept their

00:45:32.320 environments the way they kept themselves and even with him you could see how incredibly and impeccable

00:45:38.080 his uniforms were and really believed in the power of looking good so that you show up and you

00:45:45.600 live your life well totally yeah yeah i had the chance to see i think like his uh his wooden teeth

00:45:52.960 actually and i think it was in dc or somewhere where you could actually see his teeth it was pretty

00:45:58.240 interesting that's crazy yeah yeah and or is there something else is going to add is um his willingness

00:46:05.120 sacrifice too like really think about what he put on the table i mean he was he was a soldier

00:46:14.960 for great britain turncoat went against all of that for an ideal holy crap right like when you look

00:46:27.280 at the founding fathers and literally what they sacrificed to sign their names on that paper

00:46:33.440 it's unreal to me unreal you know what's interesting though i think about this sometimes

00:46:38.880 let's just hypothetically say same scenario but great britain wins that war all of us would be

00:46:46.800 that we would not be celebrating thomas jefferson george washington their names would be cursed yeah we

00:46:53.120 and we would think they were horrible villainous vile repulsive people isn't that so yeah i guess uh

00:47:00.240 winners right the history books yeah totally yeah totally interesting um if there okay here's a good

00:47:06.480 one if there were a red dawn situation you just woke up in the morning red dawn what are the first

00:47:13.840 three things you would do and then secondary what three areas are you deficient in and should shore up

00:47:21.040 okay so red dawn like boots on ground boots on ground you wake up soldiers are coming down from

00:47:29.200 parachutes driving their tanks into town like it's on yeah um my first initial thought is grab our packs

00:47:36.640 that are already packed and ammunition and head into the foothills um where we can camp we kind of have

00:47:45.840 a spot that's not far from us but it's a hike it would give us higher ground yeah there's no

00:47:52.720 coming to us from above right and so we'd be nestled and and removed from the situation that's almost the

00:47:59.680 immediate thing i would do um where areas of deficiency i should probably have a cache already up there and i don't

00:48:09.280 mm and so that would be a lot of stuff to be packing up um there is a survival rifle that's a 22 that's a

00:48:18.320 they call it a honey badger or an a1 is an a1 or an yeah it's an a1 a a1 or a oh so you said a 22 not

00:48:28.400 a nine millimeter yeah yeah there's okay i don't know that there's a rifle that um um

00:48:35.280 it's a survival rifle that used in the military for uh pilots it's super basic yeah and anyhow i i

00:48:45.760 want something like that because that ammunition is a huge amount of ammunition right way lighter to

00:48:52.160 carry lethal enough yeah inexpensive lethal enough you could use it it's quieter um so i don't have

00:49:00.000 enough 22 and i don't have one of those cool survival rifles that i'd want that's a 22

00:49:04.880 yeah would you do you feel like if that were to happen that you would try to lead or rally men

00:49:12.320 together for a resistance absolutely but my first priority how would you do that yeah my first

00:49:19.120 priority family out family sure first of course um i already know i i think i already know who all

00:49:26.160 those guys are in my neighborhood so i would immediately like all right what's our strategy like

00:49:32.080 what are we doing and and come up with the plan it's so crazy though because so you go up to the

00:49:39.440 foothills and and we just think oh yeah i'd get those guys together how how are you gonna you don't

00:49:45.280 have cell phones no right that's the first thing the enemy is gonna do is disrupt communications and and

00:49:50.560 that's that's an area that i need to improve on a little bit so so i actually have unauthorized

00:49:56.080 ham radios a bunch of oh really yeah so um and a couple of guys what makes them unauthorized well

00:50:03.360 you have to be certified to be able to use ham radios license right yeah yeah and i don't um but

00:50:10.400 i assume that in these kind of circumstances i don't give a crap right so uh least of their worries yeah

00:50:16.880 there's a handful of guys that actually do tests monthly uh in my neighborhood on their ham radios

00:50:22.880 uh and and i've chatted with them to start doing that with them um with my radios but i haven't done

00:50:29.440 that yet but you would hope right that um those those group of individuals would start communicating

00:50:36.320 on those ham radios appropriately right yeah no that's good i i hadn't really thought about that

00:50:42.160 no that's good yeah um pivot again what i got a couple more questions we'll do if there were no

00:50:48.880 constraints at all no financial constraints responsibility type constraints what would you

00:50:54.560 do for work i kind of love what i do really you would keep doing that yeah yeah i would still i mean

00:51:07.520 continue working with you um in the ic in order of man i i love the conversation of leadership

00:51:15.840 leadership um and and it's evolved a little bit for me right i i feel leadership is a choice

00:51:24.400 that we can choose and that choice is putting other people's um success um as a priority

00:51:35.280 their growth and development success as a priority that's leadership and if you're a parent you're a

00:51:40.240 leader uh and then you can choose to be a leader whether you have a title or not and so that

00:51:46.640 conversation is a as a fun conversation i enjoy that conversation i think it is the answer to us

00:51:53.680 showing up more powerfully like in the grand scheme of things we talk about like personal development and

00:51:58.240 it's like become a better person that's all great so you can be a better leader like i think that's like

00:52:05.920 the progression is any personal development should eventually evolve into effective leadership

00:52:13.760 i like it and and i have an avenue to do it in my current job so i'd keep doing it

00:52:18.640 right and that's good and the more i could take on the better because more most people aren't that

00:52:23.600 way where they'd be like oh i'd keep doing this like most i would do this i would do the same thing

00:52:28.240 but most people would do something completely different yeah i would keep coming to the office doing what i

00:52:34.720 do you know and and just i don't continue on the same path of of trying to help nice all right

00:52:42.960 so i have two more questions um if there's one bit of feedback that constructive feedback that you've

00:52:49.200 been wanting to give me but never have for any reason what would that be oh man that's a really good

00:52:56.640 question if you asked me a couple years ago i would say that you're too stern sometimes in your

00:53:03.120 thought process it's always black and white with you um but we've talked about that man i i feel

00:53:10.160 the the gains in the space of empathetic like thought process on your part has has been astounding

00:53:19.600 it's been great actually i appreciate it so i would never give you that feedback anymore

00:53:23.600 but if if that was feedback i would have given you you know what i mean a couple years ago um

00:53:33.120 the other part the the one thing i would give you feedback and and my apologies i probably should just

00:53:40.480 not waited for a podcast to give you this feedback um yeah but but this this is something i think is

00:53:47.600 really important and i think it's insightful for iron council and i call it the equitable transfer of

00:53:54.880 value people will always show up powerfully as long as there's an equitable transfer of value

00:54:03.520 and the minute that's tilted and i'm not getting as much as i'm giving then what i do most people

00:54:11.200 will will do one of two things they'll reduce their effort to match what they get

00:54:17.520 or they'll just leave right that's it and and i would advise you that from a leadership perspective

00:54:26.480 in the ic our first thought when we have maybe a disengaged battle team leader for instance let's

00:54:33.360 let's say i don't know they're not showing up as powerfully to immediately go to that and go okay hold

00:54:39.840 on are they getting an equitable transfer of value of what i'm asking of them because that's usually

00:54:46.800 where under performance always comes in yeah that's interesting and so i double down on making sure

00:54:53.040 they're getting value and our circumstance is different right obviously from the ic perspective

00:54:58.240 some of that might be for most organizations it's compensation but not really right like a lot

00:55:05.680 of it is something intrinsic value am i learning am i being challenged do i find purpose and meaning

00:55:11.680 in what i'm doing um am i getting reps where i'm i'm growing in a way am i making a difference the

00:55:18.320 minute those things start going down and they're not getting those things anymore they will reduce their

00:55:24.560 effort always and and i think you're going to get to a point where size becomes enough where you're

00:55:31.600 going to have to hire someone right that's like to take care of yeah for sure to run so they have 0.99

00:55:37.520 more meat in the game they will give you more meat that makes sense oh i like it we'll talk more about

00:55:45.120 that i'm sure yeah um last question kip that i have for you here is this one might be a little bit

00:55:51.120 of emotional one but i want to bring it up and like part of the reason that i wanted to do this by

00:55:55.680 the way is because i've number one i value your responses and value your insight um and who you are and how

00:56:00.560 you show up and number two it's good for guys to hear from us about how we think and what we would

00:56:07.040 do differently or or how we ask questions or what kind of questions we ask like some of these questions

00:56:12.560 are pretty sensitive and the fact that you and i can have this type of conversation now i know it's

00:56:17.840 being recorded but how many conversations can a guy have about some of this stuff with another man

00:56:23.360 it's not real likely superficial there's something to be learned and said there as well um so here's

00:56:29.440 the question if you could say one thing to your dad if he were still alive what would you say to him

00:56:45.760 i think i would tell him that i would choose him as my dad

00:56:51.280 and that i um and i and it sounds cheesy but like really accepting exactly for the man he is

00:57:05.360 you know and then i'd probably tell him all the things i was grateful for that he did that he taught

00:57:10.080 me that he may not even realize that he taught me um and then i would probably double down and apologize

00:57:18.240 for any areas that um for any areas that um i i showed up small where i maybe withheld love from

00:57:24.960 him because i took things too personal and assumed right that that is him not meeting my expectations

00:57:33.760 in certain ways meant that he didn't love me and i'd apologize for that um ironically enough you

00:57:42.080 you asked this question last night i i had this wave file like a sound file on my desktop and it's um

00:57:51.200 it's of my dad actually leaving me a voicemail and i saved it onto my pc uh he's never

00:57:59.120 and i literally don't say this to like make him sound bad but it's i i think i i wish i would have

00:58:06.720 realized why he was doing this but he he wasn't a man to you know call me and check in right like

00:58:14.160 that never happened with him and um roughly about you know in fact it was around this time of year

00:58:22.480 um three years ago he calls me and left me a voicemail and that's the voicemail that i have on my desk

00:58:29.520 on my on my computer that i listened to yesterday it's the only voicemail i have from him

00:58:33.520 and he called and wanted to wish me a merry christmas and you know to give my kids and my

00:58:42.560 wife a hug let them know uh that he appreciates them and and then it was it was kind of funny 1.00

00:58:49.840 because i bought him these ugly ass shoes these stupid well they're stupid shoes for like to help 1.00

00:58:56.000 your arches or something like that old people wear you know velcro even you know like really ugly shoes 1.00

00:59:02.320 and the and the funny part was is he called me up and said hey thanks for those shoes that you know

00:59:08.480 they're a huge help and they've been great whatever little did he know that that i talked to my sister

00:59:14.880 weeks earlier and said hey is dad wearing those shoes she's like no are you kidding i think he threw

00:59:19.280 them away he's like i'm not wearing stupid things and he put his boots back on and so he calls me 0.59

00:59:24.720 and leaves me a voicemail telling me thanks for these great shoes and i'm like no he's not wearing those 0.90

00:59:29.360 shoes you know that's funny he's never worn anything but cowboy boots you know what i mean

00:59:34.240 and so it was kind of funny that he used that as an opportune time but i i regret not seeing that for

00:59:41.520 what it was and what it was is my dad probably being present to his mortality and reaching out to me

00:59:50.240 in his own way and um i didn't jump on that as much as i should have yeah yeah it's good man

01:00:01.920 well i had other questions too like uh but i decided to over overlook them like

01:00:06.000 just choose the ones that make me cry well like i was thinking you know if you could choose

01:00:10.960 one thing to change about asia what would it be and why i decided you probably wouldn't answer that

01:00:15.040 question well i don't know if we have a long enough episode right you don't want to keep these

01:00:19.040 within an hour i also put in here you know how many times per day do you think i wonder what ryan's

01:00:25.680 doing right now you know those types of questions i mean that happens all time

01:00:31.600 uh kip i appreciate it man you gave some great answers to some questions here and

01:00:35.760 that was fun like it's good to learn more about you we've been friends for a long time but it's still

01:00:39.600 good to know your thought processes and why you do the things that you do to go back to that

01:00:43.840 first question why you are the way you are well we answered some of that today so that's cool

01:00:48.800 guys we're gonna go back to our regular scheduled program next week so don't stop listening just

01:00:54.000 because we don't stop listening okay it's just a one-off i understand if you don't like it don't

01:00:59.040 leave we'll never do it again that's the only time i'm going to give kip the microphone like that

01:01:03.680 so just don't worry about it uh guys real quick one thing i do want to say is that on january 6th

01:01:11.680 so that's monday night january 6th we have an iron council preview call at 8 p.m eastern time

01:01:18.880 so that's again monday january 6 8 p.m eastern iron council preview call we had a really good call

01:01:24.960 last week we pulled back the curtain a little bit shared a little bit about what the ic was about

01:01:29.760 some guys shared some stories and some lessons that they've learned and how they've applied these

01:01:33.920 lessons into their lives and it was a really powerful call so if you're on the fence and you're

01:01:38.080 wondering as it worth it do i want to pay money for this what what all is included go to the iron

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01:01:52.800 there and then we will email you monday morning probably friday night too and remind you that we

01:01:58.160 have that call monday january 6th 8 p.m eastern the iron council.com slash preview right can i give them a

01:02:05.200 challenge those guys that come on monday bring a problem like there's obviously a reason that you

01:02:13.360 might be considering joining the iron council right it's like well i need to get my fitness in shape i

01:02:17.280 need to resolve some conflict with in relationships or whatever that is bring it to the table hey and

01:02:25.520 like how much would you appreciate this hey ryan i've been considering the iron council the key

01:02:31.600 important element of my life that needs to be addressed is xyz how would that how would the

01:02:38.320 iron council help me resolve and or get on a path of resolving that issue yeah like bring those to the

01:02:46.480 table awesome it'd be awesome yeah you know what's interesting about that those men who come to the

01:02:52.160 table with a problem and are willing to a voice and express it are the ones who are going to get the

01:02:56.240 most value out of the iron council anyways because and i told these guys on the call last week i said

01:03:02.400 look if you if you want to get value out of this then you need to start speaking up

01:03:08.800 you need to tell people what's wrong what what you're dealing with what you're good at what you're

01:03:12.480 not good at asking questions being considerate of what other people might have to share with you

01:03:17.120 the more that you do that and the men that do that inside the iron council are the ones who thrive

01:03:21.520 and succeed not just within the confines of what we've created but in their life that's the idea i

01:03:26.640 don't care about how well you perform in the iron council like top performer in the iron council

01:03:31.760 does nothing for me but for you to be a better father or to be a better husband or to make a little

01:03:37.040 more money this year or extend a little more grace where you haven't been so willing to do that in

01:03:42.240 the past or losing some weight that means you're doing the work and that's what i appreciate way more

01:03:47.760 than i contribute a lot to the iron council that's great i love it but let's see if we can

01:03:52.880 translate it to your life yeah absolutely cool all right guys well again thank you for joining us

01:03:59.520 very first call of the year i thought kip could kick that off i loved your answers to those questions

01:04:04.000 kip i know that was a little bit of a blind side for you you didn't know what those questions were

01:04:07.600 ahead of time and uh you did pretty good so appreciate you man all right guys we'll be back on

01:04:13.520 friday until then go out there take action and become the man you are meant to be

01:04:21.360 thank you for listening to the order of man podcast you're ready to take charge of your life

01:04:26.000 and be more of the man you were meant to be we invite you to join the order at order of man.com

Order of Man - January 01, 2025

Trying Times with Kids, No More Jiu-Jitsu, and Preparing for Red Dawn ｜ Ask Me Anything

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Order of Man - January 01, 2025

Trying Times with Kids, No More Jiu-Jitsu, and Preparing&#xA0;for&#xA0;Red&#xA0;Dawn ｜ Ask Me Anything

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Trying Times with Kids, No More Jiu-Jitsu, and Preparing for Red Dawn ｜ Ask Me Anything