Order of Man - TYE NICHOLS ｜ From Fairway Dreams to Mainstreet Reality

00:00:00.000 Man, you ever seen an old house and think to yourself, man, I'd love to fix that up or an old truck and imagine the day where you and your children would drive around in that thing or maybe an old project you've been meaning to finish but never got around to it.

00:00:14.160 My guest today, Ty Nichols, feels the same way. In fact, he's invested thousands of his own money to put into an abandoned golf course. He's had visions of reviving.

00:00:25.120 And today we talk about his dream of not only reviving that golf course, it's called Fairway Fields, but we also talk about finally believing in yourself, also casting visions so other people will believe in you, overcoming doubters on your path, what to do when times get tough and whether or not to quote unquote sell out when it comes to chasing a dream.

00:00:48.580 You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest, embrace your fears, and boldly chart your own path. When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time, every time. You are not easily deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient, strong. This is your life. This is who you are. This is who you will become. At the end of the day, and after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man.

00:01:13.760 Gentlemen, welcome to the Order of Man podcast. I am Ryan Michler. I'm your host and the founder of this podcast. And today I have one of those ordinary guys that so many of you have been asking about. And I say that a little bit tongue in cheek. I do not want to diminish by any means what my guest brings to the table, but I've known Ty Nichols, my guest today for five years, four or five years now.

00:01:40.520 And I can tell you that even though on the surface, he may look like an ordinary guy like you and me. He's got some extraordinary thoughts, concepts, ideas, dreams, visions, and work ethic. So today we're going to talk about what to do and how to build some of those dreams that so many of you have been focused on.

00:01:59.800 And if you're new to the podcast, welcome. This is geared towards helping you become the best possible father, husband, business owner, and community leader that you can be. Again, I've got Ty Nichols on the podcast today.

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00:02:38.320 All right, guys, I'm going to get right into it with Ty. He's the owner operator of Fairway Fields. That's an abandoned golf course that he's opening very soon. And it's bring being brought back to life by my guest Ty. Now I met him years ago when I moved to Maine. He's working with Pete over at origin. I had him on the podcast last week.

00:03:00.320 And Pete must have saw something in him all those years ago. I don't think he was wrong. Ty and I have become friends since I left Maine. He has bought a golf course of all things and is working diligently to rebuild and bring it back to life.

00:03:17.940 Now I've never doubted Ty would do great things. And with a social media following in just a few short months of over 1 million people, it's very clear to me that everyone else sees it the same way. Again, I said it earlier, this is an ordinary guy like you and I doing extraordinary things. And I'm proud to have Ty on the podcast today.

00:03:41.400 Ty, what's up, brother? So great to see you, man. It's been years, I think, at this point since you and I have talked.

00:03:46.340 Brian, what's happening, man? Good to see you.

00:03:50.840 You got a family now. That's wild, right? You got a little girl. Is that right? One daughter?

00:03:57.140 Yes, a one-year-old little daughter named Elsie.

00:04:01.080 That's awesome, man. How's that been for you?

00:04:04.260 The best thing I could ever ask for. The best thing that could ever have happened to me.

00:04:09.760 Yeah. You moved to Southern California a little bit and now you're back in Maine. Is that right?

00:04:14.700 Yeah. I was down in San Diego working for Jocko Fuel down there. We were setting up a media division down there and just being a little bit closer to Jocko and the podcast and Victory.

00:04:31.960 So once I found out that the little baby was on the way, we came back to Maine.

00:04:36.360 Yeah. Are you from Maine originally? I know your folks live in Maine, right? Do they live in Farmington? Is that right?

00:04:44.900 It's a little town outside of Farmington called New Sharon, which is 500 people, but basically. So yeah, I'm from also Farmington and New Sharon.

00:04:56.640 Oh, I know the area, but nobody else who ever listened to this podcast would know New Sharon, but I do. And I'm proud to be able to say that I do know exactly where that's at. That's where Joe's from too, right? Is he from New Sharon?

00:05:10.380 Industry.

00:05:11.340 Oh, industry. Okay. All right.

00:05:14.020 All these little towns, they're all connected. They all go to the same high school. There's like 30 towns that go to Mount Blue High School, which is Farmington.

00:05:22.460 Yeah, man. Yeah. Dude, it's awesome to see what you're doing. Did you listen to the podcast that I had with Pete just last week?

00:05:30.280 I did. I had it sent to me a couple of times, actually, and that was very cool to hear.

00:05:37.960 Yeah, man. I've always thought really highly of you since we first met. You did some videos with me for our business.

00:05:45.080 I think you used our property a handful of times to shoot some video for Origin and Jocko Fuel.

00:05:50.340 And I've always thought highly of you. And then I didn't know this, but Pete said that you bought a golf course and you are rebuilding a golf course.

00:06:00.680 Why the hell would you do that with all due respect?

00:06:03.460 That's a great, great question. We're kind of asking that ourselves right now.

00:06:08.440 But I mean, honestly, no, I bought it just to be clear. I bought it with my parents.

00:06:14.060 We went 50-50 on it on just like a land loan.

00:06:19.020 And, you know, I was looking for an investment. I was looking for something to put some money that I've been saving up into.

00:06:30.500 And I was thinking, you know, Airbnb, but wanted something, wanted a piece of property that was unique.

00:06:37.700 And, you know, I was looking all over the coast. And I just drive by this golf course every day for the past 10 years that's been abandoned.

00:06:47.180 And, you know, I got talking to it with my parents and gave them a call and the price was right. So we did it.

00:06:55.460 Where's the where is it? I may have drove past it on occasion, depending on where it is.

00:07:00.520 But where's where's the golf course? You probably drove past it driving down one of the main roads route, too.

00:07:07.400 But it's in Chesterville, an even smaller little town. Is that is that the route to strong or what what route is that?

00:07:17.380 Man, it's like it's like headed between where you used to live and if you were going to go to Augusta, basically.

00:07:27.420 Okay. Oh, got it. Okay. Got it. Yeah, man. I've seen some other courses out there.

00:07:32.920 I mean, my real question based on that, I know your parents are into I think they're under real estate.

00:07:40.200 I think they're into rental units. If I remember you saying years ago, is that is that accurate?

00:07:46.580 Yeah. Well, my mom, she she started doing some some house flipping like probably about 10 years ago,

00:07:52.960 maybe just like one foreclosure flip a year.

00:07:57.720 You know, my dad's been working in the Coast Guard here. He retired after 30 years.

00:08:03.740 So he's a couple of years out. I was looking for something to do.

00:08:08.280 My mom was looking for our next project and I was coming back from California.

00:08:13.040 And it's like we spent two years away from each other and we just figured how awesome would it be to, you know, team up on something and see what we can do.

00:08:21.920 So the question then is, I mean, I know they're your folks, right?

00:08:27.360 And so there's obviously that. So let's table that conversation for a minute.

00:08:32.240 But we're talking about a lot of money here and we're talking about a lot of time, a lot of commitment, a lot of effort.

00:08:38.880 Why do you think they believe in you? What is it about you?

00:08:42.120 And also, I'm going to add Pete into that equation because Pete spoke so highly of you on last week's podcast that there's something about you and I recognized it as well.

00:08:55.060 I want to hear from you what you think it is, because I know there's a lot of guys who would like to be in your position, but you created a lot of this.

00:09:02.120 So what do you think about that?

00:09:04.200 Man, I think I'm just I think I just take advice from from the right people.

00:09:11.780 Like, I think I just want to want to impress the right people, which is like people like my parents, people like Pete, people like Jocko.

00:09:19.560 Like, I just want to, you know, live up to live up to, I guess, their expectations.

00:09:24.840 It's my own expectations, too.

00:09:27.280 But I mean, why why my parents, you know, want to go into it with me?

00:09:35.220 I mean, they've seen they had their doubts about origin and me quitting college and, you know, going and working for this like little little company and not going to college.

00:09:45.820 They had massive doubts.

00:09:47.080 And, you know, I believe I saw Pete's vision and was just excited to be a part of it in any way that I could.

00:09:55.880 So, you know, did I think that it would turn into, you know, what it's turned into?

00:10:01.340 Maybe, but I don't even know if I if I could have imagined that back then.

00:10:04.960 So, you know, they've just they've just seen me make, I guess, the right decisions over a decent period of time, I guess.

00:10:15.640 Yeah.

00:10:17.080 Would you consider yourself ordinary or extraordinary?

00:10:23.720 Literally the most average person.

00:10:26.660 Like, that is like a running joke in my group of friends and my family.

00:10:30.980 It's like I was literally the middle person in my class of high school, like a totally average, like athlete.

00:10:40.020 I'm like completely average at everything that I do.

00:10:44.300 And I just try to like instead of, you know, it used to bum me out that I'm like, you know, I wasn't super good at any one particular thing.

00:10:54.040 But I think I'm, you know, starting to realize that I can just kind of, you know, if I can just take that and apply, you know, being pretty good at a lot of things.

00:11:03.560 And I can I can use that to my advantage.

00:11:07.240 Yeah.

00:11:07.560 I mean, I've talked with so many guys who one of the common little bits of feedback I get and I'm not trying to be insulting at all.

00:11:15.840 So I hope it is not come across like that is guys constantly tell me they want, quote unquote, ordinary guys in the podcast.

00:11:23.880 I'm like, dude, all of us are ordinary.

00:11:27.320 Every single one of us.

00:11:28.820 You talk about being the middle of everything.

00:11:30.960 I was the middle of everything.

00:11:32.340 I was never a great athlete.

00:11:33.880 I was decent.

00:11:35.020 Never a great student.

00:11:36.580 Decent.

00:11:37.300 You know, I could get a little bit of money to go to a local college here in southern Utah.

00:11:42.660 Like nothing extraordinary, nothing special.

00:11:45.180 But I'm always fascinated with this idea that not only are men who listen to this podcast wrapped up in what makes somebody great, but also the fact that they don't see themselves as somebody who could be great, even though they might consider themselves ordinary people.

00:12:01.860 Well, I mean, I remember the first time that that I took a trip with Jocko, he he asked me at the end of the trip, he was like, he's like, Ty, were you nervous to come down here?

00:12:20.600 And because we were in New York City, never been to New York City.

00:12:23.880 I was with freaking Jocko Willink.

00:12:26.020 I, you know, was just what a way to go to New York for the first time.

00:12:29.600 And it, yeah, it was quite a shell shock.

00:12:33.220 But I was like, I was like, yeah, I was like, yeah, I was freaking nervous.

00:12:37.680 And he's like, why?

00:12:39.020 I was like, because I'm just around like a lot of extraordinary people, like a lot of just, you know, high performing people.

00:12:44.840 He's like, man, you're just, he just told me that you're just going to learn that people are just people.

00:12:49.640 And yeah, I mean, that's, that's kind of stuck with me for quite a while.

00:12:54.960 Yeah.

00:12:55.980 I wish more people knew that lesson.

00:12:57.900 Um, but also to be fair, like I did see a few of the early months and years of you with origin and I saw your work ethic.

00:13:09.020 Pete saw it, clearly talked about it last week.

00:13:12.580 Um, he said, there's something different about you, you know, and, and, and I think from the surface, you might say a ordinary guy, but he did say there's something different about you.

00:13:22.800 Would you, would you, would you agree?

00:13:24.840 Is there something different about you than your peers besides grades or the average metrics we, we usually define ourselves by?

00:13:34.580 I mean, I think that I, I wanted to be when, when it comes to origin and, and Jocko Fuel and, and getting close to Pete, like I wanted to be close to Pete.

00:13:48.800 I wanted to be in his, in his conversations with, you know, building his business.

00:13:54.980 Like that is truly like what I wanted when I was, you know, I did a year in, uh, in, uh, college and I was going to class and I just knew like, this is, I'm wasting my time here.

00:14:07.200 Um, and I just knew that I wanted to be around somebody that was building something.

00:14:11.900 And so I just, I know that I just, you know, did everything that I could to, to make myself as valuable as possible to, to Pete and everyone else that was around me.

00:14:24.300 Um, I mean, I guess, yeah, I guess you could say that's different.

00:14:27.980 Like it doesn't make necessarily me any different.

00:14:30.680 Just, you know, what I wanted, I suppose.

00:14:32.700 I think there's a level of humility that people might hear in their voice, which, you know, some people might say a little bit of, uh, I wouldn't say fear, but a little bit of discomfort, a little bit of uneasy footing.

00:14:53.160 I, I, I really don't know how to describe it, but I think it's something that makes you a relatable person.

00:14:58.460 And I admire that, you know, I really respect that because we see these people on social media and they're all larger than life figures.

00:15:06.360 Uh, they're already succeeding at high levels, like Jocko, like Pete, like Jordan Peterson, like all the, all the people we're used to seeing.

00:15:13.160 Um, and then there's guys like us who still have some of that same vigor and excitement about what we're doing, but maybe it isn't that same level of notoriety that you see from some of these heavy hitter for lack of a better term.

00:15:26.020 I mean, you're definitely right about like, I don't know what the word is either about like fear or, or what it was, but I was, I was motivated by like, I don't want to be, uh, I don't want to be a disappointment to, you know, all these, especially, you know, especially my parents.

00:15:47.320 I don't want to, you know, I was slightly headed down a, you know, party path, kind of like not, not so awesome path that I wasn't proud of.

00:15:56.780 No one was super proud of.

00:15:58.660 Um, and then, you know, I found, found origin and, um, uh, just dug my heels in and tried to do everything that I could.

00:16:06.580 Like I said, just, just try to make myself as valuable as I could, as available as I could.

00:16:12.040 Like, you know, one of my favorite like side jobs was like Pete would, I was, I was the guy who would go and get people from the airport.

00:16:20.300 Like, regardless of what I remember that time it was like, I went and got people from the airport and it was my favorite job ever because I got to, I got like two hours with all of these business leaders and just super unique people that I just thought were super interesting.

00:16:37.620 And I just got to pick their brain and, um, I got a lot out of those, out of those rides.

00:16:42.640 So, yeah.

00:16:43.520 And that just came from, you know, trying to make myself as, as value as valuable as I could.

00:16:47.760 And that's actually, I hope people hear what you just said, because I think most guys, when they want to achieve something big, they would say to themselves, well, I want to be in the boardroom, right?

00:17:01.200 And you have been, you have been in the boardroom, but they, they say, I want to go from here to the boardroom, right?

00:17:07.840 And you went from here to, I'll pick people up if I have to.

00:17:13.740 And, and most people would say, well, I don't want to pick people up from the airport.

00:17:17.760 That's better than the boardroom because you have one-on-one time with them for literally four hours round trip.

00:17:24.680 People don't get one-on-one time with Jocko in the boardroom.

00:17:28.020 Who gets four hours with Jocko?

00:17:30.940 Like nobody, but you went and picked them up and you got four hours out of something everybody else would say, nah, not interested.

00:17:38.600 That's beneath me.

00:17:39.580 Well, and it, it was, you know, a big part of it was that sometimes it was at, you know, nine, eight o'clock on a Saturday or something like that.

00:17:49.780 And people would call me up and say, hey, can you go get this person or tomorrow morning, can you go get this person?

00:17:55.940 And I just, you know, did everything, did everything that I could to say yes as much as possible.

00:18:02.540 Like, obviously there's times that you can't say yes to things, like you have plans or whatever, but I did, I did my best from, at least for the first, you know, four or five years of working for Pete, of just like, just do everything that's asked of you.

00:18:18.740 And offer to do more, like, like state that you want more, you want more responsibility, you want to do as much as you can like that.

00:18:28.440 I think I did that and that, that built a lot of trust, I think.

00:18:32.140 I hear a lot of guys talk about wanting to do more and they're willing to do more, but it's always with attached to a statement.

00:18:40.540 And the statement is, they don't pay me to do that.

00:18:43.820 They don't pay me enough to take care of that.

00:18:45.840 That's above my pay grade.

00:18:47.860 But this is the antithesis of what you're talking about.

00:18:52.500 I was looking at it like I was going to college.

00:18:54.920 Like, I always comment, like, Origin University for a reason, because, like, all my friends were in college.

00:19:01.880 I wasn't.

00:19:03.580 And in the back of my mind, like, everyone kind of thought, you know, like, he's, you know, dropped out of college, working, whatever.

00:19:13.800 But in the back of my mind, I was like, I'm getting the best college out of anybody that I know.

00:19:19.660 Like, I get to learn from people that are actually doing it right now.

00:19:22.920 So, that's just how I looked at it was just, like, I'm just here to learn.

00:19:28.520 Like, I like learning, especially in this realm.

00:19:33.140 So, yeah.

00:19:34.960 I think it's one thing to believe in yourself, and that's hard.

00:19:40.240 You know, I've had to be there as I've grown multiple businesses.

00:19:44.780 But then there's the element of bringing other people on.

00:19:49.500 It's like, I can buy into my own delusion.

00:19:52.460 Now I've got to get other people to buy into my delusion.

00:19:55.600 And I imagine that you have, well, how many people do you have working with you currently with Fairway Fields?

00:20:02.620 Oh, no.

00:20:03.960 It's just you?

00:20:05.380 Me, my parents.

00:20:07.380 And, you know, we have one carpenter who's working on some stuff.

00:20:10.180 You know, like, it's not like, you know, we've built, like, a good social media and stuff.

00:20:18.040 And I kind of expected that out of myself because that's what I've been doing for the past 10 years.

00:20:23.220 So, I would hope I could.

00:20:25.240 I didn't expect it to the, you know, level that it's gotten so fast.

00:20:29.000 But, you know, like, we haven't done anything yet.

00:20:31.880 Like, we're getting ready to open next week.

00:20:35.700 And I think there's a lot of, you know, good local sentiment.

00:20:38.740 But, you know, like, I started working for Origin for Pete because I wanted to build a big brand myself.

00:20:45.480 And I never really knew what it was.

00:20:47.360 And it's like I figured it would just, like, reveal itself after a little while of, you know, trying something.

00:20:53.100 And so, I say that to say, like, I have big, bigger dreams for fairway fields than just Chesterville.

00:21:04.320 But I want to make Chesterville as good as I possibly can first.

00:21:10.120 Is that where you guys live now?

00:21:11.800 Do you live in Chesterville?

00:21:13.300 I live in New Sharon.

00:21:15.040 Oh, you do?

00:21:15.440 Okay.

00:21:16.300 Yeah, man.

00:21:17.940 I've got so many questions about this from not only the growth standpoint,

00:21:21.900 but the business perspective because, you know, it's a rural town.

00:21:26.420 It's a rural community.

00:21:28.080 And, you know, it went out of business for a reason.

00:21:32.360 I don't know what that reason is.

00:21:33.780 Maybe the people who owned it retired.

00:21:35.740 Maybe they just didn't want to do it anymore.

00:21:37.300 Maybe there wasn't enough business.

00:21:38.500 I don't know.

00:21:39.100 Did you look into that when you decided to buy the course?

00:21:42.700 Yeah.

00:21:43.020 So, I mean, we were looking at it just like a piece of land.

00:21:47.580 It was, you know, 44 acres along the Sandy River.

00:21:52.720 And it was just a beautiful piece of property.

00:21:55.300 So, you know, we didn't even – I knew I wanted – I was like, okay, I want to buy it.

00:22:02.460 I happened to talk to my parents after I called the guy.

00:22:07.280 It was literally just a for sale sign.

00:22:08.940 He never listed it online.

00:22:10.780 It was just for sale by owner.

00:22:12.780 And he had his number, like, written on a sign that was, like, trees overgrowing it.

00:22:16.820 And I called them – I told my parents that I talked to them.

00:22:21.260 And they were like, oh, we were actually getting ready to call them, too.

00:22:23.600 And I was like, perfect.

00:22:24.420 Let's just go 50-50.

00:22:24.920 Whoa, really?

00:22:26.180 Yeah.

00:22:26.960 Yeah.

00:22:27.320 And I said, let's just go 50-50 on it.

00:22:30.040 And we'll – let's just get it.

00:22:31.880 And we'll figure out what we're going to do with it after.

00:22:35.780 So, we come to find out, you know, the guy – he didn't – he was a golfer.

00:22:45.160 There was a previous owner before him that ran it really successfully,

00:22:48.700 kind of really built the reputation of the golf course with the community around here.

00:22:55.800 The last owner, he did a good job for, you know, I think four or five years.

00:23:00.740 And then I think he just realized how hard it was running a golf course.

00:23:05.780 Yeah.

00:23:06.800 And, like, I don't want to run a typical golf course either.

00:23:10.100 Like, I'm not even really a golfer.

00:23:12.820 I just started golfing last year.

00:23:15.020 So, we have some other plans for it.

00:23:18.960 Well, you can't say that and not tell me at least a little bit about what you have planned.

00:23:24.560 Yeah, no, I'm happy to talk about it.

00:23:26.540 I mean, when I go – when I go traveling for work or we go to cities, like, we always go to Topgolf.

00:23:33.800 Like, I love Topgolf.

00:23:35.100 Yeah.

00:23:36.440 So, I want to do – we're going to do, like a, you know, like a countryside Topgolf.

00:23:42.940 Like, turn basically a quarter of the property into – into a – basically a Topgolf.

00:23:50.400 And I'm actually talking with the company Topgolf, which is a subsidiary of Topgolf.

00:24:00.020 And they're going to bring all their tech in, hopefully.

00:24:02.360 And we're going to really turn it into, you know, like cool main rural, I guess, rustic Topgolf.

00:24:10.400 So, there's that side of things, a regular driving range, you know, the whole golf side of things.

00:24:17.640 And then minus that, and we still have, you know, 30 acres to work with of what we want to do.

00:24:24.740 And, you know, we want to put up an Airbnb, and we want to attach, you know, like maybe like three private holes.

00:24:33.740 Like, maybe restore like three of the holes that were there because they've been growing – overgrown now for 10 years.

00:24:42.580 Take three holes and make it private to – if you book the Airbnb out, then those are yours.

00:24:48.200 Is it 18 holes or nine holes or what's the course now?

00:24:52.100 It was nine holes.

00:24:53.360 Nine holes.

00:24:53.780 Got it.

00:24:55.160 Right now, I mean, it's a field right now.

00:24:58.420 Like, it was an overgrown field when we bought it.

00:25:00.680 It's like it hadn't been – I think it closed in 2016 was the last time it was open.

00:25:08.820 All right, guys.

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00:26:09.220 For now, let me get back to it with Ty.

00:26:10.720 Well, I imagine the efficiency of 44 acres is a challenge too because, you know, I'm looking at my property and you've been out there in Maine, 50 acres, which I think 32 of it was field, including the house and the property.

00:26:28.360 And then the other 16, 17 acres was wooded.

00:26:31.580 But you've got to be super efficient in that amount of space.

00:26:36.060 People might hear that and say, you know, they're sitting on their 10th of an acre lots and thinking, that's a ton of acreage.

00:26:41.740 It's really not that much when you think about putting nine holes on 44 acres.

00:26:48.600 Yeah.

00:26:49.460 Yeah.

00:26:49.840 I mean, all of the, all of the old equipment that came to run the golf course came with, came with the place just kind of, you know, like halfway, halfway apart.

00:27:02.380 So we had a guy, a local guy come in named Ralph and he just came and fixed everything.

00:27:09.880 Pretty awesome.

00:27:10.960 Showed us exactly what he did.

00:27:12.440 Kind of taught us, taught me what he did anyway.

00:27:18.040 And yeah, it's a beast.

00:27:19.640 Like I've totally, like, it totally went over my head anytime I went playing golf.

00:27:26.060 Like this is like, you're like taming nature constantly.

00:27:29.640 And it's like, is it, that is a brutal, there's a, that is a game you're not going to win eventually.

00:27:35.660 You know, unless you're out here, like the joke, and I don't know if I ever told you this, but the joke is that everything in May is trying to live and survive.

00:27:44.920 Everything in Utah, Southern Utah anyways, is trying to die or kill you.

00:27:49.640 And so it's a, it's a little bit of a different, you should come out here and golf with me sometime.

00:27:56.000 It's a little different than in May, but, uh, equally as learning, I'm sure.

00:28:01.040 Yeah.

00:28:01.580 It's two different sets of problems.

00:28:03.100 I'm sure.

00:28:03.920 Yeah, no doubt.

00:28:05.100 And there's always a guy named Ralph or Joe or whoever it might be.

00:28:08.660 He's like, got everything figured out.

00:28:10.840 You're like, you need to get your truck code, call Ralph.

00:28:15.420 You need to, you know, I don't know, jumpstart your car.

00:28:19.660 Ralph will take care of it.

00:28:20.800 There's always a guy like that.

00:28:22.260 Right.

00:28:23.180 Totally.

00:28:24.060 Yeah.

00:28:24.460 Um, yeah, two different sets of problems.

00:28:28.160 I am looking forward to it though.

00:28:29.520 Like I, I, you know, we're going to start with one hole and just say, you know, we're going

00:28:35.220 to restore the green, we're going to restore the fairways and we're just going to see how

00:28:38.360 that goes.

00:28:38.940 And, you know, there's a lot of golf courses around.

00:28:42.020 I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure we can figure it out, but not to say it's easy or anything.

00:28:46.760 Definitely not to say that, but, um, yeah, we're going to, we're going to figure it out.

00:28:50.800 We're going to make it a really cool experience down there.

00:28:52.660 Just the whole property itself.

00:28:53.960 Like I want part of like the bigger thing is, is that my favorite place in Maine, you

00:29:00.980 know, there's a lot of tourists that come to Maine.

00:29:03.140 Like I looked up the stats, I looked up the stats and, uh, there's, I think four and a

00:29:10.300 half million people that go to Acadia every year, uh, national, which is essentially four

00:29:18.520 to five times the population of Maine essentially is what that is.

00:29:22.900 Yeah, exactly.

00:29:24.040 So like just a massive amount of tourists, like worldwide that come to this one little

00:29:28.320 place, you know, in Maine.

00:29:29.820 And like, I'd never even been there.

00:29:31.420 Like, you know, I've heard of Acadia and whatever, but I've never been to Acadia.

00:29:35.800 Well, I, I have now, but that's wild, man.

00:29:39.760 I'm at the base of Zion national park.

00:29:42.020 That's like you coming out to Utah, I'm not going to Zion.

00:29:45.220 And I'm like, I've never been there.

00:29:46.200 It's 20 minutes from my house.

00:29:48.820 Yeah.

00:29:49.420 Yeah.

00:29:49.840 Pretty much.

00:29:50.500 I was like, I never, you know, that's, I always thought of that.

00:29:53.920 Like, that's where the tourists go.

00:29:55.480 Like that's where it's, you know, we have our place up here in Western Maine.

00:29:59.060 And my favorite part of Maine is, is Western Maine and in the mountains over here.

00:30:03.360 And, you know, I, I would like to, I would like to do my part in, you know, showing Western

00:30:10.940 Maine to some of those tourists that want to come visit Maine.

00:30:14.120 And I don't think it's really in any of the, you know, not in any of like the tourist books

00:30:20.080 or if you Google where to go in Maine, like not really going to see this area.

00:30:23.980 So I'd like to, I'd like to help out in that department, bring some, bring some visitors

00:30:30.560 this way.

00:30:32.140 What has been the local reception?

00:30:34.000 You said there's a lot of golf courses and I've seen them, but what is the local reception?

00:30:37.740 Are people excited?

00:30:38.600 Are they nervous?

00:30:40.100 Are they skeptical?

00:30:42.780 Like what, cause you have a lot of salt of the earth type individuals.

00:30:48.380 Um, you know, not, not frankly, and I'm trying to be as respectful as I can, not a whole lot

00:30:53.100 of like prosperity and abundance.

00:30:54.860 And I'm, I'm trying to wonder like, what, what is the reception like as you're trying to

00:30:59.860 do this and build this out?

00:31:00.900 I mean, it's been, it's been really awesome.

00:31:05.540 Like, so the reputation of this golf course is that, you know, like this is where everyone

00:31:11.820 first played golf.

00:31:13.120 It's where I first played golf.

00:31:15.240 Um, it's where my dad, I'm pretty sure first played golf.

00:31:18.140 Um, but all like the, pretty much the whole surrounding community, like this was the place

00:31:23.920 to the laid back place to go and learn how to play, uh, uh, you know, take your family

00:31:31.800 there.

00:31:32.200 It was never the nicest golf course and not, not a super long golf course.

00:31:37.300 Um, it was just, just known for being a really laid back place to, to come hang out.

00:31:41.880 And that's the, that is what I want to, you know, bring back to the place.

00:31:46.580 Like this beautiful piece of property, that's just a laid back, awesome place to come hang

00:31:52.000 out.

00:31:52.380 That's what I'd like to bring back.

00:31:54.020 And people are super excited that somebody's doing something with it.

00:31:58.000 Um, so yeah, a lot of really positive, um, feedback.

00:32:03.240 Yeah.

00:32:05.080 Just to get a little personal and, and I hope you'll, you'll be willing to explore this

00:32:09.360 with me.

00:32:10.120 Um, you know, obviously you're not making money now you're losing money.

00:32:13.700 Um, so, uh, let's just call it for what it is.

00:32:17.780 How are you making ends meet?

00:32:19.440 Because there's a lot of guys who are listening to this podcast and they, and they're thinking

00:32:22.900 the same thing.

00:32:23.720 I want to buy that local diner.

00:32:25.780 I want to buy the, that local golf course.

00:32:28.340 That's going out of business.

00:32:29.220 I want to buy that property.

00:32:30.500 I want to buy that garage that I've been looking at forever that I had my first car fixed

00:32:35.240 at.

00:32:35.920 How are you making ends meet right now?

00:32:38.260 And how do you square that?

00:32:41.180 Because you've got a young daughter, you've got your wife, like you've got a family to

00:32:45.160 take care of too.

00:32:46.660 Right.

00:32:47.320 Yeah.

00:32:47.900 I mean, first, first priority is, uh, is Jocko field.

00:32:52.220 I'm a full-time employee for Jocko field.

00:32:54.260 Um, and, uh, sorry, I wanted to say something, but I should probably, I guess, just hold it

00:33:07.180 back.

00:33:07.460 Um, full-time employee for Jocko fuel.

00:33:11.720 Um, and luckily, you know, since, since we've been building this, uh, the, the social medias,

00:33:19.600 you know, Pete kind of really went to bat for me that, um, to give me, to give me some

00:33:26.280 more time down here.

00:33:27.140 And, you know, we got 400,000 on Instagram and 350,000 on Tik TOK.

00:33:34.000 So, you know, uh, I can, and a really committed audience, so like I can do my part in introducing

00:33:39.600 them to the brand, um, where they've, they've given back to me and given me some time back.

00:33:46.980 So that's how I'm squaring the payment on, on my end that, and, you know, just some like

00:33:52.900 good investments over the past few years of, you know, like I've, I've been buying Bitcoin

00:33:59.560 for, for a long time.

00:34:01.280 I know you had Michael Saylor on that.

00:34:03.180 That's pretty cool.

00:34:04.640 Um, so, you know, like just, just like some decent, not that money, like, you know, crazy

00:34:10.740 investor or anything like that, just kind of made some good longterm moves and, uh, put

00:34:15.660 myself in a position to be able to do it.

00:34:17.200 And also, you know, this was like people here, you bought a golf course and you think

00:34:23.260 like, yo, you must've paid a million dollars or something for it.

00:34:26.600 It was a little different in Maine.

00:34:28.600 We're in Chesterville, Maine.

00:34:30.440 It's like, I think eventually I'll do a video where I just break all the pricing down.

00:34:36.180 It's all like public info anyway.

00:34:37.640 But like, um, yeah, like it, between me and my parents going halves on it, like it's totally

00:34:45.180 doable.

00:34:46.920 And look, I mean, I can disclose this.

00:34:49.660 You guys have seen the place that I bought, you know, you've seen the property, you've

00:34:53.760 seen the barn.

00:34:55.600 I probably put just under $200,000 into it after I bought it, but that's 50 acres.

00:35:01.600 That place is beautiful.

00:35:02.740 It's got this huge three-story barn.

00:35:04.580 We ran events out of there or I bought that thing for $295,000.

00:35:09.200 So, you know, $295,000, um, I sold it for just under six.

00:35:14.900 I put $200,000 into it.

00:35:17.180 So, you know, I broke even on the property if we, if we look at it from that perspective,

00:35:22.640 but the, the memories and the dreams and the excitement, the enthusiasm, the growth,

00:35:28.660 like I would have lost money on it and still felt like I won.

00:35:33.240 Right.

00:35:34.580 Yeah.

00:35:35.140 Yeah.

00:35:35.460 And I, I, uh, I called you as soon as I saw that place for sale because exactly what we're

00:35:40.660 talking about right now, I was looking for a place to, to do something unique with.

00:35:45.320 So when I, when I heard your place was for sale, it's like everyone around here, everyone

00:35:50.380 in like a 40 mile radius knows that house.

00:35:53.600 Like the beans corner, it's like beans corner.

00:35:57.100 Yeah.

00:35:57.960 And I had a bunch of weirdos show up, man.

00:35:59.760 I was so confused.

00:36:00.700 I'm like, why are these people pulling in my driveway?

00:36:03.040 Why are, why are these people taking pictures?

00:36:04.980 I had people like want to come look at my house.

00:36:07.220 I found one time I, the security cameras went off.

00:36:11.220 I went out in the barn.

00:36:12.020 People are looking around on the barn.

00:36:13.280 I'm like, can I help you though?

00:36:14.500 Yeah.

00:36:14.680 We just wanted to look.

00:36:15.460 I'm like, that's not how this works. 0.99

00:36:17.860 Like it doesn't mean I'm like, Oh shit. 0.96

00:36:20.060 I better get this stuff figured out. 0.99

00:36:22.300 I probably thought it was a museum.

00:36:26.760 Maybe, maybe.

00:36:28.740 What's the, uh, what's the long-term play?

00:36:31.260 Like, is this something you see you doing for a long period of time?

00:36:35.320 Is this something that's enjoyable?

00:36:38.720 I mean, you built up an audience on social media of, of roughly based on what you're saying,

00:36:44.140 a million people, a little less than maybe, maybe more depending on what platforms we're

00:36:48.380 looking at, which is incredible, um, in a short period of time, but what's the long-term play?

00:36:55.780 Yeah.

00:36:56.280 I mean, I think like the long-term is just kind of, it's kind of just starting to unfold

00:37:00.980 as we're, as we're doing this.

00:37:02.360 And first, first things first is like, we got to make sure that we have this idea of

00:37:07.680 like this cool countryside top golf, you know, maybe like some, maybe the Airbnb attached

00:37:12.900 and whatever the whole thing.

00:37:14.040 Um, we have an idea and we've got some, you know, good feedback that that's going to work,

00:37:19.540 but we got to just prove it out.

00:37:21.380 Like, we got to make sure that this is actually going to work.

00:37:23.800 Like, there's actually enough people in the area that care to come, you know, hit golf balls

00:37:28.440 into a field.

00:37:29.620 Um, I do think, I do think it will work.

00:37:32.920 Um, you know, and proof of concept, if it works here, then I don't see why we can't,

00:37:37.880 you know, go to, go to Acadia or go to, um, you know, just some bigger, you know, Maine

00:37:43.620 or New England markets with it.

00:37:45.420 Um, it is fun.

00:37:46.420 It's, you know, this is, it's exactly, exactly what I wanted.

00:37:49.840 Like be out in the sunshine, work with my hands, get off my laptop.

00:37:54.040 Like that's, that's what I was really looking for.

00:37:57.280 Um, we definitely got it.

00:37:59.360 Um, so yeah, yeah, we're having fun and we're just kind of figuring out, figuring it out as

00:38:05.040 we go.

00:38:05.360 Um, so for, I really wanted to have you on because I, I know about your ambition.

00:38:11.220 I know about your drive.

00:38:12.800 Like there's never been a question about that from the first time I met you.

00:38:15.700 I thought the same thing that Pete does and, and he knows you better than I do of man,

00:38:20.260 Ty is driven.

00:38:21.040 He's motivated.

00:38:21.920 He's ambitious.

00:38:22.700 He'll do what it takes.

00:38:23.680 You're talking about it today.

00:38:26.300 Um, and I know there's a lot of guys who, who would probably hope the same things about

00:38:33.640 themselves, think the same things about themselves, want to accomplish similar things.

00:38:39.820 But I'm sure that you've had your fair share of, of questions and doubts and concerns and

00:38:46.560 that little voice that says, don't do this. 1.00

00:38:48.720 You're an idiot. 1.00

00:38:49.380 Like, how does that manifest for you? 1.00

00:38:51.920 And then more importantly, how did you overcome that?

00:38:56.320 Yeah.

00:38:56.900 I mean, this isn't, this isn't the first thing that I've tried to do.

00:39:01.340 Um, it's the first thing that I've really committed to.

00:39:04.980 Um, you know, like I've, I was 19, 20 one time and like wanted to do like the drop shipping

00:39:11.760 and make like internet money.

00:39:14.140 And, um, those things got weeded out in my head really fast.

00:39:18.360 Cause I knew that I actually, I actually didn't care.

00:39:21.780 And I just had this, I thought I just wanted to like make some money and leave or something.

00:39:26.540 And, and those things, those things like literally like, I would like put like three or four hard 0.92

00:39:32.660 days into like building these websites and doing all this stupid stuff. 0.81

00:39:37.280 And, uh, and then it would just be gone because I just didn't care about it. 0.60

00:39:41.620 Um, and you know, this was the first real time that, um, that I really like put my money

00:39:49.800 where my mouth was and like really invested into, into something I've been, you know, saving

00:39:55.860 for, for a while.

00:39:57.420 Um, and that's a big, I think that's big.

00:40:00.600 Like once you, you know, once you put your money down and you're committed, like it's,

00:40:05.720 it's just go time.

00:40:06.540 So like, you know, I'd never, I'm making all these videos now of me, like talking to a camera

00:40:11.880 and like, I'd never made one video ever of me talking to a camera.

00:40:16.500 Like I never once tried to like gain traction on social media because I didn't have anything

00:40:22.840 that I was, you know, like personally, like I had origin and Jocko field, but personally,

00:40:27.980 I didn't have anything that I was, you know, proud of and trying to, trying to let a bunch

00:40:34.080 of people know about.

00:40:35.040 So, um, you know, it was just like, just finding the thing that I really wanted to do.

00:40:41.580 And in this case, it was like going to business with my parents, uh, be outside, work on this

00:40:48.160 property that I've lived by my whole life and, you know, try to make something cool for the

00:40:53.340 community.

00:40:53.700 And it's like, can't nothing, nothing to not be, you know, pumped up about with, with that.

00:41:00.140 So, you know, it was easy this time.

00:41:02.600 I, I think for you with all due respect, that's probably true, but you've got a wife and I'm

00:41:09.460 very curious again, with all due respect, are there days she says to herself or you, I wish

00:41:15.220 I would have married a doctor or a lawyer, not this dude who wants to build a golf course in

00:41:21.240 rural Maine.

00:41:22.220 And how do you navigate that conversation?

00:41:25.300 Well, she's from, uh, she's from Northern Maine, two hours in North.

00:41:30.580 So she knows, so she's used to it.

00:41:33.160 Yes.

00:41:33.540 Three hours North of where, of where we're from.

00:41:36.340 So, uh, where you and I went and did the, uh, border patrol.

00:41:39.460 Troll stuff probably then close up to there. 0.83

00:41:42.200 Crazy.

00:41:42.960 Literally right down the road from her house. 0.96

00:41:45.160 Crazy.

00:41:45.540 What?

00:41:45.940 That's wild.

00:41:46.860 I figured it'd be out there somewhere.

00:41:49.640 Yep.

00:41:50.100 So, uh, no, I, I don't think she, um, you know, wants the, the city or the, um, or the,

00:41:59.260 I guess, overly stable life.

00:42:01.420 She's super supportive of, you know, she sees me just dreaming.

00:42:05.240 Like, I think that's like something that she, she admires about me is that I'm just, just

00:42:10.140 dreaming.

00:42:10.480 Like, I want to, I want to give her and my daughter the best life possible.

00:42:14.400 And it's like, I mean, just in my head, like, I'm not going to do that by being an employee

00:42:19.480 forever.

00:42:19.900 Like I got to build something.

00:42:21.100 And like, I've always known that.

00:42:22.500 And that's what I'm going to do.

00:42:25.420 Uh, what are her dreams?

00:42:27.660 Like what, what dreams does she have?

00:42:29.620 And how do you fit that into the equation when it comes to what you're pursuing?

00:42:35.080 Yeah.

00:42:35.780 I mean, I think, I think a big, a big dream of hers, she's living right now, which is,

00:42:41.200 you know, being a mother.

00:42:42.100 I mean, it's, it's been, it has been the most beautiful thing to watch.

00:42:46.660 Like it, I actually, I literally, as I was saying that, I was just watching her walk her

00:42:51.740 in her, you know, little, uh, little go-kart across the driveway here. 0.95

00:42:56.640 So, um, you know, I think she's, she's a super big family person.

00:43:01.960 Um, she wants to, she wants to spend time with her family, my family, her daughter.

00:43:07.780 She wants to have more kids. 1.00

00:43:08.920 Um, so I think, uh, I think her helping me is, is a, is a big part of it.

00:43:19.120 I mean, that's amazing.

00:43:20.900 I think that's the dream of any man.

00:43:22.920 What about your in-laws?

00:43:24.340 How do your in-laws feel?

00:43:27.020 Man, like I can't, like, I don't want to just like keep saying like everything is freaking

00:43:32.520 awesome, but everything is.

00:43:34.100 When is things going to go bad?

00:43:34.960 All right.

00:43:35.240 I'm trying to get to like the bad.

00:43:36.660 When did things go bad, Ty?

00:43:37.920 Come on, help me out here, man.

00:43:39.740 I had, there was a long time of bad.

00:43:42.300 About when I was, uh, about when I was 18, uh, 18, 19 years old, I was doing a lot of 0.51

00:43:50.000 dumb stuff. 0.76

00:43:50.560 Like I was, you know, I was partying and not taking anything serious and, um, you know, 1.00

00:43:58.360 just, just being like a shithead kid. 0.99

00:44:00.600 And I'm not from a shithead family. 0.99

00:44:03.200 Like my family is like, you know, not definitely not a rich family, just, you know, well-respected, 0.91

00:44:10.380 you know, hardworking family.

00:44:11.720 My, my grandfather owned a trailer welding business.

00:44:15.920 Nichols Trailers in the, in the area.

00:44:18.120 My, my uncle's the sheriff of the county. 0.99

00:44:20.460 And so like, I'm like, out here being a, being a shithead, like, that's not good. 0.99

00:44:26.420 It's not acceptable. 0.98

00:44:27.760 Um, so I went through it and, you know, like I, I, I punished myself mentally for that.

00:44:36.420 Um, and, you know, I just, ever since then, like, we're just, we're just not going back

00:44:41.780 there.

00:44:41.980 I'm not trying to see that disappointment from my family, like on their face ever again.

00:44:48.440 And, you know, so that's where a lot of it, a lot of it really comes from is like, it's

00:44:54.280 like, I'm just trying to live up to, to what I consider just like my legendary family

00:45:00.400 around here, you know?

00:45:01.560 Um, was there, was there a moment where you came to that realization where I don't want

00:45:07.580 to let my family down anymore, or was that just a series of decisions and over a course

00:45:13.900 of time, what did that look like?

00:45:17.000 Yeah.

00:45:17.500 I mean, telling my dad that I got arrested for OUI when I was 19 years old, like that

00:45:23.120 was, that was a moment where I was like, okay, like, like whatever it is I'm doing right

00:45:29.040 now, we're done. 0.99

00:45:29.760 Like, like, this was, this is, this is dumb. 0.96

00:45:34.840 Um, this, you know, just caught in like a bad, caught in like a bad spiral when I was, 0.90

00:45:39.660 you know, in my late, late teens.

00:45:41.360 And, um, you know, the more time I spent around Origin and Jocko Fuel, um, the more responsibility 0.61

00:45:49.800 I had and the less, you know, the less options I had to, you know, do stupid things or be out 0.71

00:45:56.220 late or whatever. 0.92

00:45:56.880 Like I had to get up and go to work and like, and like I had to, cause I'm not going to college.

00:46:01.800 And it's like, so people are already kind of skeptical.

00:46:05.480 Um, so, you know, you gotta, you gotta, gotta make something of yourself and, um, yeah.

00:46:11.940 Why do you think, uh, people who are complete strangers, I mean, it's easy for me to say

00:46:19.320 why I believe in you and why I think you can make this a success.

00:46:21.900 And even why I wanted to have you on a podcast, like I believe in you too.

00:46:26.700 I think you can do this, man.

00:46:28.120 If there was one person who I think could do this, it would be you.

00:46:31.520 But why do you complete strangers resonate with what you're doing?

00:46:35.720 I mean, you've grown a million people on your social media platforms in what, three, four

00:46:42.140 months.

00:46:42.580 What is it about what you're doing that resonates so deeply with other people?

00:46:49.040 I mean, I don't know, I don't know how deep it is, but you know, like I've thought about

00:46:53.800 it quite a bit and you know, if you're, if you played golf, if you spend enough time on

00:47:00.200 a golf course, at some point the thought has gone through your head.

00:47:03.120 How awesome would it be to own a golf course?

00:47:06.400 So, um, you know, starting with a hook like that is already pretty catchy.

00:47:12.820 Like, uh, you know, we bought this abandoned golf course.

00:47:16.480 Um, so that's, so that's interesting.

00:47:18.860 Um, but there's also, you know, a whole like subset of like content that is like, it's like

00:47:26.160 people trying to do something like people starting businesses.

00:47:29.500 Like that's, people love to get behind somebody trying to do something, um, which I think

00:47:35.020 is, which is awesome.

00:47:36.020 So you just like, really, you just need to go tell people what you're trying to do.

00:47:40.780 Um, now I think there's ways to like optimize the, like the way that you're telling people,

00:47:48.560 like if I, if I made the content in a different way, there's, you know, I might not have any

00:47:53.700 followers.

00:47:54.380 Like I just did a drone shot or something.

00:47:56.840 Um, so I'm, I'm taking, you know, kind of what I learned from, from origin and Jocko

00:48:02.960 fuel and, you know, being in the media department, um, and trying to just apply all that to, to

00:48:09.940 what I'm doing now.

00:48:10.840 And, you know, it's optimize the content, you know, be real. 0.99

00:48:14.720 Like, I don't want to feel like an asshole talking to the camera. 0.96

00:48:17.440 Like, you know, some, I don't know, I wouldn't want to, I just don't want to, uh, feel like 0.99

00:48:26.720 a douchebag, you know, like that was D bag is exactly the word I was, that was the word

00:48:32.660 that was in my mind. 0.94

00:48:33.520 So you said it.

00:48:34.440 So, yep.

00:48:34.980 We're in agreement on that.

00:48:36.400 Yeah.

00:48:36.620 I don't want to feel like that, but I still need to tell people what I'm doing.

00:48:40.760 So like, what's the realest way I can do it?

00:48:43.200 Let me just take out my phone and just tell you what I'm doing.

00:48:46.120 And, you know, don't waste people's time.

00:48:48.420 I think that's a big, I think that's a big thing.

00:48:52.140 People get wrong in their content.

00:48:53.720 Sometimes it's like, uh, you know, you think, you think you're making like an art piece

00:48:58.620 or something.

00:48:59.180 It's like, just don't waste people's time.

00:49:01.500 Just like get to the point and let them, let them move on and keep scrolling.

00:49:05.840 Like that's, that's all it is.

00:49:07.740 So, uh, you know, I think I'll build a deeper connection eventually, you know, once we get

00:49:12.500 the YouTube rolling and people are actually down, down there at the fields, but I've been,

00:49:18.920 I've been blown away by all the messages of people reaching out to, you know, give advice,

00:49:26.120 superintendents of golf courses and professional players, all this.

00:49:30.120 It's like, it is kind of blown my mind of how much people care.

00:49:35.280 I mean, it's awesome.

00:49:36.780 When Pete told me about it, I'm like, hold on, let me look.

00:49:39.220 And I looked it up.

00:49:40.260 I'm like, all right, we're having time on the podcast because him and I are friends and

00:49:43.800 we need to have this conversation.

00:49:45.560 You said something interesting.

00:49:46.720 You said that people, and I'm paraphrasing, but you said something along the lines of

00:49:50.920 people want to believe in you.

00:49:52.020 They want to support you.

00:49:53.540 That isn't the common narrative though.

00:49:55.660 I hope you know that, right?

00:49:56.820 I mean, you know that like the common narrative is people want to pull you down.

00:50:01.580 They want to push you behind.

00:50:02.840 They, they, they, they don't want you to succeed because it represents a threat to them.

00:50:06.620 But you're saying the exact opposite than what we typically hear.

00:50:11.440 Yeah.

00:50:11.840 No, man, I think, I think people love, I think people love to see people.

00:50:18.780 No, there's haters like for sure.

00:50:20.560 Of course, no doubt.

00:50:22.060 There's like, you know, one in every, one in every, you know, 300 comments that I get 0.80

00:50:29.560 is like, like daddy's money or like, uh, or like this course sucks or something like 0.96

00:50:36.720 that.

00:50:37.120 And it's like, we're not even open.

00:50:39.680 Every other comment is like in total support.

00:50:43.920 So like, you know, at least in my case, and I've seen it in, in a couple of different series

00:50:49.300 of things that I watch of like, people love to, people love to support people that are

00:50:54.440 trying to do something.

00:50:55.920 Like, like, I think that's a real thing.

00:50:58.460 And I think that, I think that is a big misconception that, you know, people are just going to like

00:51:02.920 hate on you or something like that, or people from your hometown are going to judge you or

00:51:07.420 something like that.

00:51:08.180 But no, like, as long as you're, as long as you're being true to yourself and trying

00:51:12.580 to do something, you know, really helpful, um, I don't think that's true.

00:51:17.960 I think, I think you'll find the support as long as you just tell your story.

00:51:23.200 What would you say to any man listening who has a dream?

00:51:27.140 Maybe they want to start, uh, you know, a small engine repair shop or buy a golf course

00:51:34.100 locally or start a restaurant or any number of things that I know the listeners are thinking

00:51:40.760 about.

00:51:42.340 What would you say to those guys?

00:51:45.860 Um, I mean, I've just been commenting that people go get it, but in all reality, like,

00:51:54.340 you know, dive into, dive into the world that you're looking at.

00:51:58.140 Like there's a mentor, like YouTube is my best friend.

00:52:02.380 I use YouTube for everything.

00:52:04.780 It's like, it's a reason I got, you know, hired at Jocko Fuel or origin of Jocko Fuel.

00:52:11.080 It's, it's like led, I find mentors on YouTube and, you know, just be selective with who I

00:52:16.600 listen to.

00:52:17.680 Um, and just, just try to learn from people that have, that have done, done it before.

00:52:22.780 Cause you know, there's plenty of people who have done all kinds of things.

00:52:26.120 So, um, unless it's something totally unique, then, um, you know, it's totally doable.

00:52:33.300 Do it.

00:52:36.140 It's like Jocko.

00:52:37.400 Good.

00:52:37.840 Clearly you've learned from Jocko.

00:52:39.640 Cause you're like, just do it.

00:52:41.300 Okay.

00:52:42.020 I remember the first conversation I had with Jocko and he was, I said, uh, something like,

00:52:47.240 what would you say to guys who need disciplines?

00:52:50.280 And he's like, just be more disciplined.

00:52:52.340 I'm like, okay.

00:52:53.620 And you know, 10 years down the road, I'm like, yeah, that was pretty good advice there.

00:52:58.100 Just go do it.

00:53:00.640 Yeah.

00:53:01.400 Yeah.

00:53:01.720 I think that's, I think that's really it.

00:53:03.840 He boils it down.

00:53:05.020 That's true.

00:53:05.980 Yeah.

00:53:06.940 Awesome, man.

00:53:08.620 Ty, where do, uh, people connect with you?

00:53:10.700 Obviously you've got the golf course.

00:53:12.160 You're still doing stuff with Jocko Fuel.

00:53:13.820 Clearly.

00:53:14.900 Um, where can I send people?

00:53:16.580 Cause I, I love these conversations because they're a little bit atypical than what we

00:53:21.980 would normally do, but I want to do more of this.

00:53:25.080 I want to find people like us, people like you and me who are doing really extraordinary

00:53:31.560 things.

00:53:32.320 So other individuals who don't consider themselves unique or talented or special can see that

00:53:39.480 guys like us are still doing amazing things.

00:53:43.420 And I think you're a good example of that.

00:53:45.860 So where do the guys go to connect with you?

00:53:48.000 And just follow us, follow us on fairway fields.

00:53:51.820 It's the fairway fields that on Tik TOK.

00:53:55.920 Um, you know, my, my personal pages, like I follow myself main tie, um, you know, message

00:54:04.020 me there.

00:54:04.480 I see, you know, most of the messages.

00:54:06.120 So, um, or shoot me an email or something.

00:54:09.800 So, yeah, but if you're interested in following along fairway fields, that's what it's called

00:54:14.080 down here and I see where it goes, but I think it feels like we're onto something.

00:54:21.280 It feels like that to me too, for what it's worth.

00:54:23.980 I can see it and I'm very excited about what comes of it.

00:54:28.040 I wasn't, did you go to immersion camp this year?

00:54:31.140 Just a little bit.

00:54:32.460 And Brian, you know, my laptop, I just realized is at 2%.

00:54:36.920 We got to wrap it up, brother.

00:54:39.240 Well, it's all good.

00:54:40.960 When I come out there next year, I'm going to come see you.

00:54:44.040 I'm going to close this out.

00:54:45.340 Ty, I appreciate you, man.

00:54:46.600 We'll, uh, we'll connect very soon.

00:54:48.620 Thank you for having me, man.

00:54:49.780 My first podcast, this is freaking awesome.

00:54:52.320 Number one.

00:54:52.980 All right.

00:54:53.320 You remember it.

00:54:54.460 Catch you soon, brother.

00:54:58.040 Gentlemen, there you go.

00:54:58.840 My conversation with the one and only Ty Nichols.

00:55:01.960 I hope you enjoyed it.

00:55:03.620 Uh, that was a good one.

00:55:05.220 I'm very excited.

00:55:06.140 I'm excited to see what Ty is doing and I'm excited to see what you guys are doing too.

00:55:10.560 You know, I think there's a common misconception that, and we talked about on the podcast, that

00:55:15.500 everybody's out to get you, that they don't want you to succeed and win.

00:55:19.180 And, uh, sure.

00:55:20.340 There are a few of those people who are like that, but for the most part, I think people

00:55:25.220 do want to see you win and they want to see you thrive.

00:55:28.040 And they want to see you, uh, excel.

00:55:31.200 So make sure you connect with Ty on Instagram at, uh, Ty Nichols or fairway fields.

00:55:39.160 Let him know that you believe in what he's doing.

00:55:41.960 Support him.

00:55:42.680 If you can, if you're in the area, go golf at his course, when he opens it up and let's

00:55:48.220 all help each other out.

00:55:49.200 Guys, very excited for this conversation and for every conversation that we have.

00:55:53.140 Uh, we'll be back tomorrow for our Ask Me Anything.

00:55:56.540 Until then, go out there, take action and become the man you are meant to be.

00:56:00.520 Thank you for listening to the Order of Man podcast.

00:56:08.540 You're ready to take charge of your life and be more of the man you were meant to be.

00:56:12.220 We invite you to join the Order at orderofman.com.

00:56:15.720 to get out of here.

00:56:19.680 Amen.

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Order of Man - August 26, 2025

TYE NICHOLS ｜ From Fairway Dreams to Mainstreet Reality

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