Order of Man - Winning the Cultural War for Masculinity, Overcoming the Need for Approval, and Knowledge Vs. Wisdom ｜ ASK ME ANYTHING

00:00:00.000 You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest. Embrace your fears and boldly chart your own path.

00:00:06.040 When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time. Every time.

00:00:10.500 You are not easily deterred or defeated. Rugged. Resilient. Strong.

00:00:15.540 This is your life. This is who you are. This is who you will become.

00:00:19.780 At the end of the day, and after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man.

00:00:24.740 Tip, what's up, man? Good to see you. It's also good to be back after a, well, I told you my wife's been gone for the past three or four days, maybe five days, which is good.

00:00:34.540 You know, I love my kids, but at times I'm like, how in the world does she do this all day, every day?

00:00:39.700 It's such a challenge. It's fulfilling. It's rewarding. And it's also hard and frustrating at times.

00:00:46.040 Yeah. It's sometimes when, when my wife's out of town or I'm like full-time with kids, I'm like, oh man, I got this.

00:00:53.040 But, but it's also like a sprint. And so I'm like, oh yeah, like that was fine for a day.

00:00:58.760 Right. But if I didn't do this for like five days in a row, I'd probably lose my mind.

00:01:04.000 I mean, look, I'm not trying to discount what my wife does and what your wife does and other wives do, but also we get, you get more efficient as you go along too. Right.

00:01:12.980 You learn systems, patterns, you get into a groove. And so you're, you become more capable.

00:01:18.500 That's like with anything, whether you're working out or taking care of the kids or in your business, you become more capable.

00:01:24.940 So then you can deal with a heavier workload. I was actually talking about this with Andy Frisilla.

00:01:30.140 This was months ago when we did our last podcast. And I said something to the effect of, you know, if you were to just to drop me personally into your shoes, I would just crumble under the weight.

00:01:40.480 And he's like, yeah, absolutely. You would. But he wasn't saying it arrogantly. He just says he's over years and years of developing systems and the ability to manage a bunch of different things.

00:01:51.580 He just got better at it. And that's what we do. Hopefully that's what we should be doing anyways.

00:01:56.200 Totally. And, and to your point, develop the people that support us, right. That we, whether it's our kids or our employees, you know, to help support the system.

00:02:04.760 Yeah. It's always, my, my kids do, we do pretty well. When mom gets home, they're probably a little hungrier than maybe they normally would be a little bit more tired than probably they are, but you know, they're still alive. They're still smiling. We had a good time all as well.

00:02:20.440 Yeah. Last time. I can't remember. I think my wife went out of town and, um, and, and when she got back, she was like, Oh, so how was it? And they're like, same as always. Dad made us clean.

00:02:35.120 Yes. That's what they do. They clean. That's like my thing. Oh, mom's out of town. We're cleaning. I do the same thing. I do the same thing. And it's funny too. My kids will be like, Hey, can we have lunch? I'm like, yeah, sure. Go make it.

00:02:49.100 They're like, wait, what? And I'm like, yeah, if you want lunch, you're old enough, go make it. And my daughter, she's such a little sweetheart. She loves to make lunch for the boys. So she'll actually go make lunch. She'll do mac and cheese or sandwiches or nachos. And I'm like, this is awesome.

00:03:05.280 Um, yeah, that's funny. A little mom helping you out. Oh, it's so funny because I think it was the other night we were, I think we were doing dinner. My daughter and I were doing dinner together, make, you know, making dinner. And, uh, I can't remember exactly what she did. It was some sort of little mannerism or something. And I just could not help but laugh. She just reminded me so much of her mom. And I just thought, Oh my gosh, she's been conditioned, which is not a bad thing.

00:03:32.280 My wife's amazing. Yeah. But it's just, it's so funny. It's so funny, man.

00:03:39.280 It's in Prince get half, like how they show up, you know? And even when you joke, like, uh, right now we joke around a lot with the two-year-old saying, you know, get out of here. And we like, just kind of shoving like jokingly, but now he's doing it, but it doesn't seem like a joke.

00:03:55.200 Different. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't seem like a joke. Like people will sit by him. He's like, get out of here and shoves him in the face. I'm like, yeah, that's kind of backfiring. Like, I don't, I don't think he sees us joking with you now. It's like, you're shoving people around. I'm like, okay.

00:04:10.460 Earlier this morning, my, my youngest son and I were doing a puzzle and I said something to him and he's like, dad, you're not the boss of me. And I said, Hey, we don't talk like that. He's like, I was just joking, dad. It was just a joke. I'm like, you little.

00:04:24.200 Yeah. Yeah. Great space. Yeah. All right, man. Well, enough of that. Let's get into some questions. I know we got some good ones. I, I, uh, solicited some questions on Instagram at Ryan Mickler earlier today. Uh, so I'm sure we'll have some great ones.

00:04:38.940 Yeah. And as always, you guys, uh, responded to the call. So first question, uh, William Connor, where I live, the gyms are still closed. I try and work out at home, but have trouble staying consistent.

00:04:52.240 I don't want to fill my head with any more excuses. I just want to get it done. Any tips on how to stay consistent?

00:05:00.040 I would say at home where you don't have as much accountability. It, some people say a home gym is easier. I actually find that not to be the case. It's harder because it's easier to get distracted.

00:05:12.860 We were talking about your kids. Uh, you've got your emails and your phone and your wife and your projects around the house that need to get done. And the chores, everything's at home.

00:05:22.760 And so it's not this separate space where you can go and just focus on that one thing. So that's difficult. Uh, one thing that I think you probably ought to incorporate is to make it enjoyable.

00:05:35.100 I have found so many guys that just love to beat themselves up by working out. And if that's your thing, fine. If you enjoy that and you're a bit of a, a masochist, masochist, maybe then, okay, cool. That's do that. That's fine.

00:05:49.140 But if, if you find it miserable, you're just not going to do it.

00:05:54.820 Like you're dreading it. You're dreading it because you hate whatever it is you're doing, whether it's running or sprints or power lifting or whatever, whatever the thing is that you don't enjoy.

00:06:04.820 You're, you're beating yourself into the ground by telling yourself you have to do it. And then the guilt comes with it. And there's times where you should do that, where you should just bear through and knuckle down and get it done.

00:06:15.220 But your, your training should be enjoyable. I'm not saying easy, but it should be enjoyable. That's why jujitsu has been good for me because I actually enjoy it.

00:06:25.240 Like it is a good exercise. It keeps me in shape to a degree. There's other things I do in addition to it, but I enjoy being there.

00:06:32.380 You know, there's, there's elements of being in the gym, especially if I'm working out with my children that I actually really do enjoy.

00:06:39.120 Uh, we've got a concept to rower in the house. I hate rowing. And so I just, I don't do it.

00:06:44.520 If I forced myself to do it, I could force myself to do it for sure. But then I'm just going to be miserable. My back's going to hurt and I'm going to hate it and everything else.

00:06:51.820 So I do other things, you know, you can do rows with weights, for example, and that's more enjoyable to me.

00:06:57.160 So I would say just make it more enjoyable and see if that doesn't change things up. And then also have a set schedule. Don't, and don't deviate from it.

00:07:05.920 So if you're going to work out every morning at 6am, for example, don't craft and create excuses as to why you shouldn't do that.

00:07:13.060 Just start to build it into your routine. And that's going to be a little bit more challenging at first, but once you build it into your routine and you make no excuses ever to get out of that, then it's going to become easier and easier and easier.

00:07:26.900 You know, it's going to be your set time. The only other thing I would suggest in addition to that is have your workouts prepared ahead of time and all of your clothes or gym attire, whatever it is you're going to need or wear ready to go.

00:07:40.120 Because if you don't, it's small. I know it's small, but it is a little barrier that if you don't have your clothes laid out, I've had this happen and it sounds silly when you say it, but if I don't have my clothes laid out the night before, it's infinitely harder for me to get up in the morning and actually go to the workout.

00:07:55.500 If I don't know exactly what I'm going to be doing in the morning, it's infinitely harder for me to get up and feel motivated to go in because I don't want to think about what I'm going to have to do and yada, yada, yada.

00:08:04.580 So I remove all of the barriers possible and I think that will help.

00:08:10.120 Yeah. How much of that, Ryan, do you think is just like mindset?

00:08:16.720 You know, like, you know, in the Iron Council, you know, and you've had him on the podcast, you know, the author of Morning Miracle.

00:08:24.960 And it was funny because a part of his book, he talks about, you know, mindset before going to bed.

00:08:31.180 And if you go to bed with the idea of like, oh, man, I only have six hours of sleep.

00:08:36.560 I'm going to be so exhausted. By the time you wake up in the morning, you're going to continue that process and go, oh, I'm so exhausted versus like, oh, great.

00:08:46.100 I get six hours of sleep. That's going to be sufficient. Like, so how much of that do you think is just mindset?

00:08:51.860 Like being grateful, like, oh, I get to go to the gym, you know, like how great that is versus, you know, I don't know.

00:08:58.940 Do you get what I'm saying? Is it just on the mind? Do you think that helps a little bit just trying to focus on the positive?

00:09:05.760 I don't think it's a trick at all. I think having the right mindset is crucial.

00:09:10.800 One of the things, for example, that we don't say in my house is this is hard. I hate that. That phrase infuriates me because all that does is put unnecessary obstacles in your way.

00:09:25.200 You're telling yourself it's hard. You made it hard. You made it harder than it needed to be by telling yourself it's hard.

00:09:30.720 But is it challenging? Possibly. Is it, are there, are there things that we're going to struggle with? Sure.

00:09:37.740 But we don't say this is hard because then you're just reaffirming a bad position. So I think mindset is huge and that's something you can control, right?

00:09:49.080 You talk about the six hour thing. You get to decide what that means. Yeah.

00:09:53.400 That means you got six wonderful hours of sleep, or that means you only got six hours of sleep.

00:09:58.640 My oldest son and I were talking about the glass half empty versus half full the other day.

00:10:03.220 And, uh, and, and that's exactly what this is. Like, he's like, well, I don't get it. And I told him, it's just, you're just deciding how to view it.

00:10:10.320 You view it in a positive light or a negative light, but it's the same.

00:10:13.960 Objectively, there's the same amount of water in the cup in both scenarios. It's just how you view it. That makes the difference.

00:10:20.160 Yeah. Okay. Uh, dad, Brad AF best person from which to learn about writing a personal mission and vision statement.

00:10:31.120 I don't think you need a person to learn from. I think there's little, little tricks and little strategy cues and strategies. Sure.

00:10:39.100 But I don't think there's some miraculous like formula out there. And if you only learned it, then everything would be better.

00:10:46.060 What I would say is write down your first vision for yourself and use the book sovereignty. It's behind you, Kip.

00:10:51.600 Um, that actually goes into depth, or you can go to our battle ready program. Uh, it's a free email course.

00:10:56.660 If you go to order a man.com slash battle ready, that's going to walk you through how to create a vision, an objective or your objectives, tactics, et cetera, et cetera.

00:11:05.460 The here's the biggest trick. It's not a one and done thing. This should be constant evaluation.

00:11:11.600 So you write out your vision statement and evaluate it for a couple of days, or even just sit on it for a couple of days and come back to it.

00:11:19.100 You're probably going to realize, Oh, that was wrong. That was different. I need to change this. I need to tweak that.

00:11:24.080 I do the same thing with social media posts. I'll write a post, for example, and I'll think, Oh, this is amazing.

00:11:29.460 This is said exactly how I want to say it. It shares the perfect message that I'm trying to convey to people.

00:11:35.720 And then I'll post it and I'll come back to that two or three days later. I'm like, what the hell was I thinking? That doesn't even, yeah.

00:11:41.920 Yeah. It doesn't sound clear in your mind at the moment. And you're like, okay, wait, that's maybe a little confusing.

00:11:46.320 Yeah. So I would say your vision statement isn't a one and done thing. It needs to be revisited quite often.

00:11:53.480 Recalibrated, adjusted, tweaked, because your priorities are going to change and your life's going to change.

00:11:57.720 And the way you view, it's going to change. And you're going to have new experiences that give you a new filter or lens in which you look at things.

00:12:04.720 So constant evaluation. And then over time, by having an evaluation process built into the system, you're going to come up with something that you're very excited about.

00:12:13.800 But look, here's the deal. Let's not get hung up on the vision statement either.

00:12:18.040 Because I know a lot of guys who either A, never do a vision statement at all. And so have no vision or direction for their life. That's a mistake.

00:12:26.180 And then I know other guys who focus so heavily on the vision and then they never do anything. It's like, well, wonderfully written vision.

00:12:34.240 So what's your plan? Well, I don't know. What do you think? You're just going to will it into existence? No, of course not.

00:12:42.840 So to have something that just points you in the right direction so that you can start moving.

00:12:49.100 It would be silly, for example, to get out a map and you want to go on a hike in the afternoon and you get out a map and you're thinking, okay, we're going to hike this new place that we've never been before.

00:12:58.080 Here's the map or go to the bottom of the trailhead, for example. And you'll see at the bottom of the trailhead, you'll see they have maps of the places sometimes, right?

00:13:05.880 So you go to the bottom and you open it up and you're like, okay, here's where I am. Okay, that's where I want to go. Here's the couple of paths I could take.

00:13:12.920 Got it. Cool. Fold up the map and go home.

00:13:15.020 You would never do that, right? You would actually take the first step and that's what a vision statement is designed to do.

00:13:22.640 So don't get so hung up on it that you aren't actually moving the needle somewhere and just realize that as you go along, if we're using the metaphor, the trail, that you're going to make turns and changes and tweaks and adjustments based on where you want to go.

00:13:35.700 But that vision statement helps you get oriented in the right direction so that you can start moving.

00:13:42.000 Yeah. And maybe a good analogy is that map, that's your vision statement, is of a trail that's not confirmed yet.

00:13:51.020 So you map it and then you have to get on the trail for a while and go, oh, the map's off a little bit. Let me adjust the map.

00:13:59.560 Some guys will sit in the parking lot and go, okay, let's review this map.

00:14:02.940 Well, guess what? Your vision statement is of a trail that's not fully mapped out yet and it's not exact and you're not going to know until you go a couple of miles in and adjust it accordingly.

00:14:15.040 Yeah, that's a good point. I think about that with early explorers.

00:14:18.300 You think like Columbus or Lewis and Clark, you know, they had a general idea, but Columbus was completely off, which makes sense.

00:14:27.380 How would he know? And he went, right? And he found, he ran into an island, a country, a continent that he didn't know existed.

00:14:36.720 And then that's new information. That's new data that other explorers can now use in their travels and their pursuits.

00:14:45.000 And that he used to come back.

00:14:46.460 Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

00:14:47.860 Yeah. Like Lewis or the Oregon trail, your favorite game as a, as a 10 year old, it was in the Oregon trail.

00:14:55.820 It was. And I think I died of dysentery and, and ran out of food and got shot by, I don't know, or eaten by a bear.

00:15:03.620 I can't remember all the things in Oregon trail, but man, those were the good old days when video games were just a game, you know, we didn't get lost in them.

00:15:11.420 I'm wondering if that's probably one of the first video games ever.

00:15:15.380 I, I would doubt that it was, that it is. I mean, it was a computer game, you know, but I would doubt that there's probably something else before that.

00:15:25.960 We'll have to look into that pretty, pretty early in the days. You youngsters will have to Google it.

00:15:31.820 No, they know what Oregon trail is. Every human being knows what Oregon trail is.

00:15:37.380 I'm sure. I'm sure.

00:15:38.540 By the way, I got posts on Instagram saying, Hey, your, your pup daddy joke last week was funny, even though Ryan didn't think it was.

00:15:46.820 So I know the, the one guy who thought it was funny emailed me too, and just felt convinced that he needed to tell you and me about how funny you were.

00:15:54.620 So congratulations, Kip. You made one person laugh last week. You're getting better. That's an improvement.

00:16:00.540 All right. Awesome. 36. I just need confirmation, at least from one person.

00:16:06.540 You're funny, Kip. You're funny and you're special. All right, let's go.

00:16:09.760 And I'm loved. Austin 36. I didn't say that. I mean, you said that. Let's not take it too far here.

00:16:17.080 All right. Austin 36. What does Austin have to say?

00:16:19.840 I'm looking to learn a new skill to keep me on my toes and improve my capacity for actively working towards something.

00:16:25.980 I know you push a lot of traditional manly skills on your podcast, like shooting, building stuff and learning to fight.

00:16:32.400 However, I want to learn how to skateboard. How would you suggest I focus on those traditional manly skills instead?

00:16:39.360 Why, why, why wouldn't you learn to skateboard?

00:16:43.060 Yeah. If you want to learn to skateboard, then learn to skateboard. That's awesome.

00:16:46.640 Like, I don't see anything wrong with that.

00:16:47.740 I don't, I don't, I don't get wrapped up in the manly skill thing, or this is a feminine skill. 0.99

00:16:53.900 This is a manly skill. You know, I picked up the guitar several months ago, right?

00:16:57.720 Or maybe a year or so ago now. Um, I I've fallen off the wayside a little bit because I focused on something else.

00:17:03.480 Is that masculine or feminine? Neither, neither is singing, neither is painting.

00:17:07.780 I think you could probably, probably make the case that traditionally the arts would be more feminine, but that doesn't mean a thing to me.

00:17:18.480 Like if you want to paint, paint, if you want to sing, sing, if you want to, uh, do you, if you want to learn how to sew, sew.

00:17:25.840 Here's a great example. Pete Roberts, one of the, one of the manliest men I know.

00:17:30.320 So, so like he built a business on sewing. It's not, there is no masculine or feminine.

00:17:39.080 There's skill sets that I think men should know shooting, hunting, survival, that sort of thing.

00:17:44.800 And you might treat those as hobbies, but you're also looking at those things.

00:17:48.320 Like that's part of being sovereign too, right? Some of those skills.

00:17:51.960 Yeah. And I don't think a lot of that stuff, I don't know if it even has to be a hobby as much as it is an acquisition of skills.

00:17:58.240 And I think that's important, but as far as hobbies go, was that the term you used? Hobbies?

00:18:03.080 Yeah. He used hobbies.

00:18:04.360 As far as hobbies go, don't get wrapped up in what you should do. Just consider what you're interested in.

00:18:09.680 And if it's sewing or painting or singing or shooting or building or skateboarding.

00:18:16.340 Great. Yeah. Do that. That's a hobby. That's something skateboarding is going to make you a better person.

00:18:21.960 Like it's going to make you, it's going to make you more aware of your body.

00:18:25.860 You're going to be in better physical shape. You're going to have an outlet to be able to get lost.

00:18:31.740 And when you need to balance, you're going to find friends who do the same thing that you can have.

00:18:35.220 Like that's no, that's, that's great.

00:18:38.240 I want to see a picture of you or a video of you doing your first kick, kick flip.

00:18:42.440 Cause I think that's what you need to do. If that's what you're interested in.

00:18:45.780 Totally. So I lied. He didn't say hobby. He just said, Oh, he didn't. Okay.

00:18:49.100 Oh yeah. Skills. Yeah. I think you ought to just look at what you should learn based on what you

00:18:55.520 might need if you were to encounter a situation and then practice those things. Find people who

00:19:01.600 are good at those things. Pick the first one off your list. Maybe it's the easiest. Maybe it's the

00:19:05.580 hardest. Maybe it's the one that you have somewhat of an access to, or you have a friend who happens

00:19:09.280 to be in that space and pick one and learn it and learn something else and learn something else.

00:19:13.680 And just, you know, just, just go. Okay. Carson Williams.

00:19:22.160 Oh, I'm sorry. Jeez. Wrong. Zach Mo one, one, three.

00:19:26.980 Oh, Zach. Yeah. What's that? I said, Oh, Zach Mo. Zach Mo. How did having a second or third child

00:19:35.520 affect the relationship with your wife more stressful? I've heard the second child can be a

00:19:40.820 strain on a relationship. Yeah. I think second, well, the first is the biggest challenge,

00:19:45.820 of course, because that is the biggest shift in family dynamic. Second is still a challenge because

00:19:53.140 they're usually young. So now you have one in diapers who's still being potty trained. You still

00:19:58.400 can't do everything. And then you add another one into the mix. And that is a challenge, right?

00:20:03.000 Once you get to three and four, it's just, it's actually easier because now the youngest,

00:20:08.140 just like my daughter, right? She can take care of, she can help out and they have independence 0.98

00:20:12.520 and they play with each other. So once you get up to three, it's, it's easier, but yeah, two,

00:20:19.600 two can be a real challenge. So just make sure that you're carving out alone time. Here's one mistake.

00:20:25.800 I think a lot of people make, they let their kids go to bed. So late, put your kids to bed at a decent

00:20:31.740 hour. Can my two youngest go to bed at seven 30? My two oldest go to bed at eight o'clock

00:20:36.600 and people say, Oh my gosh, that's early. Yeah. Because I want to have time with my wife and they

00:20:41.980 need sleep and we get up early to waking up. Brecken usually wakes up. He's my oldest. He's

00:20:46.900 almost 13. Now he gets up at five 30. Usually my youngest gets up at five 30, just because that's

00:20:53.960 what kids do. They get up and they watch cartoons or whatever it is they do. And then my two middle

00:20:59.820 kids, I would say between seven and eight, usually they're up six 30, seven, seven 30,

00:21:05.560 somewhere in there. Yeah. Okay. So they're getting plenty of sleep, which they need. We, my wife and

00:21:12.140 I have separate time alone time. We also, when we were, when we had young kids that there was,

00:21:19.580 there was roles. My wife, she would get up in the middle of the night and take care of the kids. I 1.00

00:21:24.560 never did that. And that was a, that was a role that worked well for us. And the reason it was,

00:21:29.220 is because she said, well, you have to go into work. So I'm not going to have you get up.

00:21:33.540 She was breastfeeding. So of course there's nothing I can do there anyways. So why have 1.00

00:21:37.040 both of us up? That seems silly. So we, we created these, we'll call them rules that allowed us to

00:21:43.980 operate the best based on what we were good at, what we needed to do, what our responsibilities

00:21:49.760 were. And of course, what our kids needed it as well. So having these boundaries and these rules

00:21:54.500 and these things in place, and then having the open communication about them and how they're

00:21:58.060 working is very, very important, especially as you start having kids or more kids.

00:22:02.420 Yeah, for sure. And I think to your point, like the communication is critical. Cause like,

00:22:06.940 I think some guys will go, yeah, it makes more sense for her to get up, but they don't like

00:22:11.580 actually ask their wife what she thinks, or it's not communicated. And then there's kind of like a

00:22:16.720 little bit of this covert contract and that's like, Oh, just come up with a game plan, communicate,

00:22:21.900 make sure everyone's on, on the same page and on board with the, with the strategy and the

00:22:26.000 approach. I would say a good question to ask is how is this working for you? And then in addition

00:22:32.760 to that, I would make recommendations and suggestions because I think what a lot of men

00:22:38.160 will do is they'll go to their wife and they'll say things like, what can I do to help? How can I

00:22:42.660 support you? Which is good. I think those are good things to ask and talk about, but it would be nice.

00:22:48.660 I imagine if, and it is because my wife does this for me when your spouse comes to you and says,

00:22:55.560 Hey, I noticed that, uh, you, you don't have as much time or that you've been tired. And so I went

00:23:01.800 ahead and took care of these things or, Hey, I told you we're going to go out on date night on Friday

00:23:05.700 night. I planned it all out. So all you have to do is get ready and we're out the door at five 30

00:23:10.500 and you plan it. So look for ways to serve without having to ask her how you can help.

00:23:17.620 Because here's an interesting way to look at this. I get messages every day and I love getting

00:23:21.880 messages from the guys who are inspired and uplifted by what we're doing here. But a lot of

00:23:26.940 guys will ask, what can I do to help? Or how can I help you? And while I really, really appreciate

00:23:32.760 the sentiment, what you're actually asking is for me to identify ways for you to work or serve.

00:23:41.840 And that's adding extra stuff to my plate. So again, I appreciate it. And I'm just trying to

00:23:48.320 tell you this as objectively as possible. So you can understand how it might come across.

00:23:53.060 Now, if I had somebody who came out and just did something, and I have had people do that

00:23:57.560 and fill a gap or fill a need, that would be way more advantageous than somebody saying,

00:24:03.460 hey, how can I help? Or I've had people say, do you have any job openings? I'd really like to work

00:24:08.320 for you. What could I do? Why is that my responsibility? You want to work here? You want

00:24:13.880 to work with us? You tell me what you bring to the table, what you could add value with and how you

00:24:19.380 could provide to this organization. It's not my responsibility to do that. And I think we should

00:24:24.120 do the same thing in our relationships too. Yeah, for sure. For sure. That's good.

00:24:29.640 All right. Adamo Carr, how can a boy who's a student become a real man and not just a male

00:24:35.680 in a world or an environment looks down on men? The way that the world views men has nothing to do

00:24:42.180 with you becoming a man. Like you need to rise above that. Right. Because why does somebody's

00:24:49.060 opinion matter? It doesn't. If you feel inferior and John Eldredge actually talks quite about this

00:24:55.060 in his book, wild at heart and his other teachings, a man is constantly trying to answer the question.

00:25:00.620 Am I enough? Am I capable? Can I do this? Am I enough? And what the world thinks of men or thinks

00:25:05.900 of you is irrelevant in answering that question. You have to answer that question for yourself.

00:25:11.360 So the first step is to identify where you feel you're lacking.

00:25:14.360 And we've given you some frameworks, protect, provide, preside, sovereignty. There's frameworks

00:25:19.640 that we've added in here and not added, but this isn't the right way to say it. Say it again.

00:25:27.280 Clarified. Clarified. I think that's articulated. I think that's a good way to,

00:25:31.000 because this isn't new information. I mean, a lot of what we share here is well-documented and

00:25:36.800 researched. One book that I read years ago, that's a really great book is Manhood in the Making by David

00:25:41.080 Gilmore. A lot of what I talk about when it comes to protecting, providing, and presiding

00:25:44.900 is not new. It's something all cultures throughout all of time in history has adopted as their view

00:25:51.900 or their take on what it means to be a man. So we've articulated, clarified, and then we present

00:25:57.900 it in a meaningful and significant way. So yeah, let's not get so hung up on what the world thinks of

00:26:05.060 you and how you should show up and be more focused on where you think you need to show up,

00:26:10.940 where you feel deficient, and then start working towards improving those areas. I'm not saying we

00:26:17.860 need to be ignorant or blind to what's going on in society with the dismissal of masculinity. I'm not.

00:26:23.360 I'm just saying that we'll look at the alternative. So society, it continues to go down this slippery

00:26:30.080 slope of, uh, undermining masculinity and telling young boys how toxic they are just because they're

00:26:35.880 boys. So the alternative to what you're suggesting is just to accept that and then to continue to live

00:26:42.600 in this state of boyhood or, uh, overly feminized man for the rest of your life. And we know that's

00:26:49.880 not the answer. Yeah. Or, or give away your sovereignty and, and, and complain and argue that

00:26:55.760 it's because of them that, that it's, that you're not becoming the man you should be because society's

00:27:02.500 fighting against you, right? You're going to give over that power to them. Yeah. That's what they

00:27:06.700 would like. The powers that be would like for you to acquiesce to that because they want you to sit

00:27:13.380 down, to shut up, to be a good little boy, to do what you're told him to become a cog in the wheel.

00:27:17.540 You as an independent man represent and pose a very serious threat to the powers that would be. 0.82

00:27:25.760 This is why it's actually so important that we remain sovereign, that we remain in control of

00:27:32.620 our lives, that we fight for second amendment rights, that we fight for freedom of speech,

00:27:38.300 because this is how they silence and, and put away men. It's, it's done throughout all of time in

00:27:46.260 history. So we actually have to actively fight against it. So again, I'm not saying be ignorant to

00:27:52.500 what's going on. I'm just saying, don't let it be a factor in you becoming the man that you want to

00:27:58.740 become, which I commend you for wanting to become that man. We need more men like you who want to,

00:28:03.920 and have a desire to step up fully. Totally. And wouldn't you say, Ryan, that the natural by-product

00:28:08.900 of you doing that is a shift in society's perception. Like if we want to make that adjustment

00:28:15.640 from a social perspective, the best thing you can do is get your house in order, right? And focus on

00:28:21.440 becoming that man. And, and, and the natural by-product of that is you providing influence

00:28:26.540 to those in your life, in your communities, in your family.

00:28:29.180 Yeah. I think, Oh, I did. I think I might've lost you there.

00:28:37.660 I got you. Can you hear me? Okay. Yeah. I got you. Okay. Yeah. I think you're absolutely right.

00:28:43.560 You know, we have a lot of people who don't necessarily agree with what we say here, but

00:28:48.080 they listen. And I think if they listened with an open mind and an open heart, uh, they would see

00:28:52.440 that the type of masculinity that we're talking about, and it's not even the type of masculinity,

00:28:56.060 it is masculinity. There is no type. This, this is what it is. If they, if they listened with the,

00:29:03.660 the desire to learn and many people have, they will begin to see that we're not the enemy and

00:29:09.600 we're not toxic and we're not, uh, trying to undermine women or, uh, minorities or anybody else

00:29:16.200 who may be, uh, in a difficult circumstance that we're actually here to lift people up, to serve,

00:29:22.480 to provide, to be an example. And, and, and that's what you need to do. These people who

00:29:29.080 look, there's going to be some people who are dead set on the fact that men are horrible,

00:29:35.300 misogynistic, uh, tyrannical in nature, that it's the patriarchy. There's people who are dead set on

00:29:41.800 that. And then there's other people who have been fed that line. And so they just started to believe

00:29:46.300 it until they start to see men behaving like men. And then they realize, Oh, this is actually

00:29:52.660 not the problem. This is actually the solution, but they won't see it if you aren't willing to be

00:29:59.220 that kind of person. So we have an obligation societally to be the kind of men that we are

00:30:04.320 supposed to become so that these individuals who are misguided and who have been led astray can see

00:30:10.140 how men actually show up for their families and their communities, their employees, and everybody else

00:30:14.900 they interact with. Yeah. And I've seen, I've seen this Ryan, and let me know if you agree or not

00:30:20.200 that when we pander, like when we're overly concerned about that perception, it often renders us

00:30:28.580 not doing what we should do. Right? Like if, for instance, let me give an example. Like if you have

00:30:34.760 a wife that's maybe overly feminine, uh, feminist, you know, kind of viewpoint of things, and you're so 1.00

00:30:41.160 concerned about coming across as a domineering male, that's, you know, trying to control everything.

00:30:47.880 If you, and you pander to that, then you're not showing up like you should. Right. And, and you're

00:30:53.600 actually end up perpetuating the perception of like your ineffectiveness as a male. Right. Right. Like

00:31:00.520 you got to be true to like, what's important regardless, even those that are close to your life,

00:31:05.980 you got to be true to that. So then that way they can see what's possible. And, and so you're doing

00:31:10.980 what, you know, you should be doing regardless. Yeah. I've had, I had an interesting conversation.

00:31:15.980 This was months ago on, on, uh, on Instagram. And I can't remember the exact situation, but I remember

00:31:21.560 this engagement with this individual who was upset about something. And we had, we had a mature,

00:31:27.560 actually a mature discussion on social media, which doesn't always happen that much, but I didn't

00:31:32.500 pander. I didn't apologize. I didn't try to make that P that person feel warm and fuzzy.

00:31:37.660 I just stated my position respectfully without name calling, without any straw man arguments,

00:31:43.220 without any of these, these ad hominem attacks, like nothing like that. It was just a very respectful

00:31:48.520 dialogue. He agreed on some things. I agreed on some things. He disagreed. I disagreed. And we walked

00:31:53.900 away both with a new perspective that we hadn't considered before, but it, it, it took me being

00:32:02.240 bold and capable enough to stand up on my own two feet. And every once in a while I'll, I'll screenshot,

00:32:08.480 you know, a critic or a haters comment. And I'll post on Instagram with, with my reaction. And people

00:32:14.420 will say, don't, you shouldn't respond to that stuff. I don't respond to that stuff for those

00:32:18.480 individuals. I respond to it for the people who see it and see what it's like to have to, to, to see

00:32:25.500 an individual, a man who has the balls to stand by what he believes in what he says. I share it.

00:32:31.700 So those people will be inspired to do the same thing when they're confronted with somebody who's

00:32:36.940 a troll or a hater, or one of these, you know, extreme feminist type people, uh, or, or a lefty, 1.00

00:32:43.340 like they need to see what man looks like and how he responds to these types of conversations.

00:32:52.680 That's why I share it because I want to be an example that way.

00:32:55.700 Yeah. Yeah. That's great. Thank you. And that's at Ryan Mickler, by the way,

00:33:01.640 to see these posts by Mr. Mickler. All right. Michael Mares. Somebody told me on Instagram,

00:33:07.420 by the way, and I don't get into this too much, but somebody told me the other day that I'm being

00:33:11.360 shadow banned on Instagram. Wow. I didn't know what that means. Shadow banning his, you haven't been

00:33:17.440 flat out banned, but Instagram or social media sites will restrict access or restrict searches,

00:33:23.260 or they might, um, they might manually unfollow people from your, your follower account. Like

00:33:29.780 they do some really shady tactics and I don't really get into that too much. But one of the

00:33:34.860 things that, uh, that these social media companies will do is they'll hide you in search results so

00:33:41.360 that you can't, you can't pull up as easily. And so this guy messaged me the other day and he said,

00:33:45.940 Hey man, you're being shadow banned. Like I can't even find you in the search results on Instagram.

00:33:49.660 And, and so I went in there and I looked, and so I just went, did a search and sure enough,

00:33:56.060 it like my name didn't come up. And then I went back in later and it didn't come up until I typed

00:34:02.140 in the last letter of my last name. Really? Yeah. It's really crazy stuff. So again, this goes back

00:34:09.140 to the fact that the powers that be don't want, they don't want men talking about masculinity. They 1.00

00:34:15.400 don't, they don't want us talking about individualism. They don't want us, uh, congregating

00:34:20.700 and getting together and organizing. They don't want that. And yeah, they're little small tactics

00:34:26.860 that they employ to attempt to limit our ability to do so. Yeah. And anyone that's listening,

00:34:33.160 that's a little bit like, uh, this is conspiracy a little, it's not actually just like you have some

00:34:39.900 critical thinking and actually check news sources. And it's crazy. Like, this is not a, not a, like,

00:34:47.140 this is not conspiracy. This is legit. And, and I don't think I'm being attacked. Like we need to be

00:34:51.900 very clear because I think there is a point that people take it too far. I don't think I'm being

00:34:56.620 attacked or persecuted. I don't, I don't buy into that stuff, but you can be sure there's little

00:35:02.740 tactics and little strategies that are being used to algorithms. Yes. To manipulate follower counts,

00:35:09.080 not just mine, but others as well. Uh, what you see, what you hear, what information you have access

00:35:14.060 to. That's not a conspiracy. Most people who've thought at all about that or, or open-minded can see

00:35:20.320 that, yes, there's definitely things that are going on here. Definitely. Yeah. For sure. And, and,

00:35:25.660 and Zeke Bishop today on your question on Instagram, he, you know, he, he mentioned use

00:35:31.000 parlor. It's back online and, and we don't really talk about it much, but you do have a parlor account.

00:35:36.180 Um, I did before they shut it down. Yeah. Yeah. Online. So maybe something we do promote a little

00:35:42.320 bit. So, yeah, maybe I tried to get back in there, but I couldn't, you know, I don't know. I think

00:35:47.520 they're probably at this point having problems with logins and things like that, but yeah, I tried to

00:35:51.100 get back into it and, and I couldn't, so I don't know. I don't know what's going on with parlor.

00:35:54.880 Yeah. According to him, it's back up. I think it is. And I've heard that from other sources too,

00:35:59.840 but I, again, I tried to log in with my login details because I have, I've had a parlor account for

00:36:05.300 six months, eight months, somewhere in there. And I just, I couldn't get back on there. So yeah,

00:36:08.880 here, check this out. This is crazy. So I'm watching parlor right now and it comes up and

00:36:13.820 crashes and closes. Well, you can't parlor doesn't have an app. You have to do it on their website.

00:36:20.640 Oh, so the app doesn't work anymore. Right. Because Apple won't hold Apple and Google won't host

00:36:25.920 their app on their platform. So you actually have to go into the web-based version of it.

00:36:30.560 And that was, that was part of the problem is that Apple came in and said, well, we're

00:36:35.540 because of violence and all these other things, we're not going to host your app on our, our app

00:36:40.420 profile, whatever it's called. And Google said, we're not going to host you in our stores. So

00:36:45.580 then they're like, well, we'll just do it all web-based, but then Apple service, whatever it

00:36:49.720 is came in and said, well, no, we're not even going to host your, your site on our, on our servers.

00:36:54.920 So then parlor went in and that's AWS that did that. Amazon did that. Amazon. That's right.

00:37:00.220 Sorry. I said, Amazon's like, we're turning your servers off. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. That's

00:37:03.840 right. So then parlor is now on their own servers or something independent. I, you know, more about

00:37:08.600 this than I do. And then they started back up, but it's all web-based because you can't get an app.

00:37:13.520 You can't, you can't find the app anywhere. Yeah. Although they should be smart enough to,

00:37:18.420 I mean, I don't know, maybe it's overly technical, but you can actually download and get apps on your

00:37:23.860 phones without going through the Apple store and the Google play store. Yeah. But it might just be

00:37:28.960 overly technical for some people, but the violence that you're talking about, are you talking about

00:37:33.580 the coup, the attempt to overthrow the United States of America? Is that so ridiculous you're

00:37:40.440 talking about? It's so ridiculous. They want to paint that with that term. It's a coup. It's not a

00:37:46.180 coup. If you think that's a coup, like, I'm not saying it was, it was a good thing. I'm not saying

00:37:50.800 that, but it's, it was not a coup. That's not what a coup is. And if you're saying it was,

00:37:56.340 then you've never even remotely, as I have not ever even remotely experienced an overthrow

00:38:03.900 of a government by a military party or a political party. You've never experienced that. If you think

00:38:10.040 what happened at the Capitol is, is actually a coup. It's not what it is. Let's not, let's,

00:38:15.600 let's call it for what it is. I think we should, let's call it for what it is and let's not make

00:38:21.560 shit up because then that actually undermines the argument of those who would make these types of

00:38:27.800 things up. Like, let's be real about it and have a real conversation. That's so frustrating is the

00:38:32.940 manipulation of words, uh, in order to push and paint your narrative. Look, if you have a perspective,

00:38:39.140 cool, but let's talk about it honestly and intelligently not make things up. Yeah. Sorry.

00:38:45.720 I had to go there a little bit. It's good. It's all good. When you talk about, uh, Michael Mareska,

00:38:51.220 he's thinks your next project should be a recurve ball, a bow. So he's just letting you know that

00:38:57.020 that's what you should consider next. Good to know. If we ever finish our canoe, then dude,

00:39:02.860 it's looking like it's progressing really well. Like I saw the post this morning on your Instagram.

00:39:07.660 Yeah. So, and you're going to, so all those slats are coming over and then you, 0.90

00:39:12.800 are you in a literally cut a straight line? Yeah. And then do the other side and then you just glue

00:39:18.300 right there. Yeah. There's different patterns on the bottom of a canoe. So I can't remember. I think

00:39:23.620 this is just called a straight line pattern, I think. Uh, but then they have something called,

00:39:27.880 I want to say a herringbone pattern where they actually, the slats overlap,

00:39:32.420 crisscross overlap each other. Yeah. Uh, so there's different ways of doing it. This is the

00:39:37.360 way that we chose to do it. And the way the book instructed us to do it, we use a book called canoe

00:39:41.100 craft. Uh, so yeah, you, you basically put the slats on the strips and you, and you put those all

00:39:47.020 the way up on one side. So Breck and I have officially completed one side and then you, yeah,

00:39:52.480 it's coming along and then you, and then you make a center line down the middle of the,

00:39:56.120 of the canoe itself on the bottom. And then, yeah, we'll cut that straight. So it'll be straight as

00:40:01.400 an arrow. And then, then we'll fill in the other side and it will meet and join at the line that we

00:40:07.800 just cut. It seems so dangerous to put like a major crease at the lowest part of the boat.

00:40:15.220 Yeah. No, that's a really good point. I'm like, uh, that glue better be really good because that's

00:40:20.720 like one huge, massive section of possible leaking, you know, I don't know. Yeah. Maybe,

00:40:26.740 but I guess that's all the, down the sides, all the slats have glue. There's so exactly. And you

00:40:32.240 know what is funny? Cause Breck and I cut some, some of the planks off the canoe yesterday and

00:40:37.060 we grabbed them and there was like three or four together. And we're like, Oh, we're like trying

00:40:41.320 to break them apart to see how strong the bond was. Yeah. And I was like, I was like cranking on,

00:40:45.560 I couldn't get it. And he was cranking on, I couldn't get it. So I tried it again and I finally

00:40:48.700 broke it. I'm like, Oh, look, I got it. Well, I actually broke the wood, not the, the joint,

00:40:53.280 not the glue. Really? Holy crap. It's some strong stuff. But then the other thing that you do,

00:40:58.680 and a lot of people don't know this. So, so you, so you, you put it all together, right? You got

00:41:03.940 all the strips on the canoe and you glue it all and everything else. And then from there,

00:41:07.820 we'll pull the staples off. We'll plane the hole. We'll sand it all down. So it looks really nice

00:41:11.920 and clean. Uh, there's little holes from the staples and other little, you know, little blemishes that

00:41:16.900 maybe we didn't join the joints just right. That will fill that in with an epoxy mixed with, uh,

00:41:24.420 some, some sawdust to the color of the strips. So it looks the same. Okay. Yeah. And then after

00:41:31.000 that, a lot of guys are like, Oh, just this slap some flex seal on it or something. That's actually

00:41:36.320 not what you use on a canoe. You actually use an epoxy and hardener mix. So, so the epoxy hardener

00:41:44.020 will go over the entire canoe and then it'll dry and harden. And I'm telling you that stuff is

00:41:50.980 unbreakable. We did that with the stems with that epoxy hardener. And so the heart, the whole thing

00:41:57.300 will have a hard epoxied shell out over the top of fiberglass is actually what it goes. And that's

00:42:03.600 really what's holding the water back. It's not the wood. It's not the epoxy. Yeah, that's right.

00:42:08.600 The wood is the shape, but the, so you, once you sand and plane the hole, then you put a sheet of

00:42:12.720 fiberglass over it, uh, transparent fiberglass, and then you epoxy over the fiberglass. So,

00:42:19.260 Oh, okay. Yeah. Unless the, unless you get a hole in the epoxy once it's dry or the fiberglass

00:42:24.700 in theory, you shouldn't have any gaps in your, in your hall at all.

00:42:31.220 I see. So all those guys that were, were a little bit like betting on the idea of Ryan sinking

00:42:36.640 all you assholes. It's sounding, it's sounding like that's probably highly unlikely.

00:42:42.100 No, I mean, let's not go that far. Let's not take it that far. Now you're just setting me up

00:42:46.240 for failure even more so than hoping I would fail. Well, I mean, I just don't, I don't understand

00:42:50.980 this stuff. Right. So I'm thinking like, that's a lot of little cracks for water to come through.

00:42:55.100 You don't think that there's like fiberglass and epoxy and all this other stuff that's like

00:43:00.300 really solidifying everything. So yeah, because you know, a hundred years ago there wasn't even

00:43:07.800 thousands of years ago when people were building canoes or ships to come across, you know, the

00:43:12.060 Atlantic ocean, they weren't put, they weren't fiberglass epoxied holes. They were wood with

00:43:17.440 probably some sort of resin or something to water. I actually don't know, but something to water.

00:43:24.280 Yeah. Something. Yeah. Like a pine gum in between. Yeah. That's interesting. Tar. I don't know what it

00:43:29.340 was. Recurve bowl. Michael says. Good to know. Which I think is a cool, I would love to make a

00:43:34.380 recurve bowl. I think that'd be awesome. But when I was at Soren X about two or three weeks ago,

00:43:39.360 there's their winter strong event. There's a guy that I actually follow on Instagram. His, I don't

00:43:44.240 know is, I don't know his, his, his full name, but he goes by org organic archer and he makes his own

00:43:51.160 bows. He makes his own arrows and he was showing us how he was shooting. He, and he had, he makes his own

00:43:56.560 quiver. And so he, and he would, and he was killing it. Like he was awesome. All with arrows that he

00:44:03.960 made himself with the bow that he made himself and, and had pretty incredible stuff. And it is

00:44:11.220 organic archer. So he just shoots like lettuce and tomatoes. That's it. Yeah. Just organic,

00:44:17.500 organic, gluten-free, vegan-free. Organic vegetable archer. Yeah. There's a head of lettuce. You better

00:44:21.980 watch out. Cause he's going to smoke that thing. You got to get it. That's right. It's funny. Cause

00:44:27.400 he doesn't post his hunting pictures or videos. And I'm like, why not? And he's like, ah, people get

00:44:32.020 rubbed the wrong way. I'm like, you literally make bows like that. Like people get rubbed the wrong way.

00:44:37.860 They follow you because you make a weapon that is used to hunt and kill things. They get upset. He's

00:44:45.000 like, yeah, they get upset. People are ridiculous. And he's hunting with, with bows as well.

00:44:49.980 Cause that's what you do with a bow. You hunt with it and kill animals to eat.

00:44:53.600 Yeah. I guess they're target, but he's hunting with these, with these traditional bows. Oh yeah.

00:44:57.600 He's killed animals with this thing. It's awesome. That's awesome. That's so cool. All right.

00:45:01.960 Mayberry tea. He's quite, his question is your favorite Jocko mulk flavor from our friends or over at

00:45:09.900 origin. Um, I don't use the mulk all that much. I I'm more of the, the discipline go. Um, but I think I

00:45:19.020 just use their plate usually just use their plain one. If I have, I don't, I don't use the protein

00:45:22.800 a whole lot. Yeah. So I use the, um, the peanut butter chocolate, peanut butter. Good. The mint

00:45:29.080 mint chip one is good. That's probably my best of my favorite is the mint chip one. Um, but yeah,

00:45:34.980 I usually I'm more of the gut, the discipline go. And I like, uh, sour apple sniper, which is what I

00:45:40.680 think you're drinking. Yep. And then I like after burner orange and I don't like orange drinks,

00:45:45.800 but Dave Burks after, or after burner orange is really, really good. Yeah. Yeah. No longer,

00:45:52.820 no longer water. Uh, he's taken the real discipline. That's right. You know what? All right. Long

00:45:59.220 question here. The burly maple, any cattle livestock raising in your future. Does that aspect of living

00:46:05.440 on land interest you at all? My wife and I are working towards some land currently, and we'll be

00:46:09.920 raising some animals and pursuing other ventures that will eventually become available to us.

00:46:15.040 Um, such as my woodworking business, some rental storage, and I'm unofficially dubbing man class

00:46:21.780 where I'll be teaching skills like woodworking, metalworking, hunting, fishing, and ranching.

00:46:25.800 Just curious on your interests. Keep up the world changing work. Hashtag battle team, Charlie.

00:46:32.640 Nice battle team, Charlie representing. Um, yeah, so, well, so here, here's, here's what we've done in the

00:46:38.960 past. My in-laws, when we were in Southern Utah, they, they had land and they'd always have two to four

00:46:43.900 head of cattle and we would usually buy half, half a beef, uh, half a cow, half a cow each year.

00:46:50.140 Uh, now that we're here in Maine and we've got lots of property, one of our neighbors is a cattle

00:46:56.340 rancher and he's actually the one who comes and haze our field. So he haze our field, uh, and he pays

00:47:03.520 us in beef. In fact, we just picked up half a cow just, uh, a week or two ago. And he's working it too,

00:47:10.280 right? The field or what do you mean? The field he's working as well. Yeah. He haze the field.

00:47:16.520 He'll bring manure over, make sure it has the nutrients in the soils, the way it needs to be

00:47:20.280 in order to grow the right hay for his cows. Like he's doing all of that, which is a win for us.

00:47:24.620 Just that alone, because the field is maintained and it looks nice and beautiful. You've seen it a

00:47:29.200 couple of times and you get meat out of it and we get meat out of it. Yeah. So, and then we've got

00:47:33.980 another neighbor who's literally just across the street and he's got cattle as well. Uh, and, and

00:47:40.860 they're, they're going to have a meat store right there where they're going to slaughter their own 0.98

00:47:44.380 cows, butcher them there. They have the meat store. So people can just on their way home, pick up meat

00:47:48.940 at the store, which is right here. It's pretty cool. He's got some really good plans. So the reason

00:47:54.940 that we are not into that right now is because initially we didn't know how long we'd be here.

00:48:00.240 And I'm not interested in having one or two or five head of cattle on my property. If I'm only

00:48:07.060 going to be here for a couple of years, plus there's fencing and everything, which there is

00:48:10.680 no fencing here on our property. So there's other stuff. And then in addition to that, I'm not,

00:48:16.880 I'm not interested in that because that's not, it's, it's cool. I think it's really cool. I think

00:48:21.800 it's amazing, but I've, I'm doing other things. Like I've got this podcast and I travel and my goals

00:48:28.020 are different. So we've got chickens and ducks and we've got things like that, but cattle, I'll let

00:48:33.520 my neighbor do it. And my, my, my two neighbors do it. And then I'll work with them to, to arrange

00:48:38.880 that. Yeah. Plus we hunt, you know, so we get a lot of meat there too. So that's true. Yeah. That's

00:48:44.860 a, that's a sweet setup to get the land maintained and also, Oh yeah, it's great. Yeah. It's perfect.

00:48:49.640 Yeah. That's great. All right. 22 cheapster. How does one with a close personal relationship

00:48:55.660 spouse slash parent that refuses to truly see and, or acknowledge the progress you've made

00:49:01.420 and only see you as, as you were not as you just, uh, not as you are, despite the evidence

00:49:08.140 presented. Again, we're getting so heavily focused on other people. Now, if it's your spouse, okay,

00:49:16.700 that's actually a little harder because you actually need to live with her, engage with

00:49:21.000 her. Hopefully she believes in you to a degree. And the only thing that you can do is keep

00:49:26.160 being that way. And hopefully she'll come around and she'll begin to see, let's be honest. You

00:49:30.900 may have a track record of a decade or two of not performing. So yeah, maybe she's a little

00:49:36.660 hesitant about you finally getting back in shape or getting back on top of it. I could certainly

00:49:41.940 understand that reservation that she may have with your parents. That's easier because that has no

00:49:49.360 bearing or relevancy in your life. It really doesn't. I know we want to have a close connection.

00:49:54.600 We want to be connected with them. We want to turn to them for advice, but look, if they're not

00:49:59.460 going to acknowledge your performance or whatever it is, or your growth.

00:50:04.620 And like, they're, they're not obligated to do that. It'd be nice if they would, but they're

00:50:10.420 certainly not obligated to. So stop putting it in their hands and stop putting in their court and

00:50:15.020 you focus it on yourself with your wife. If it is your wife, I would just say, keep lines of 1.00

00:50:20.180 communication open, keep showing that you are improving, that it is sustainable. And over time,

00:50:27.720 I think that she'll probably come to see that if she doesn't, there's some underlying issues

00:50:33.060 and deeper concerns that need to be addressed beyond you just trying to improve yourself and

00:50:39.840 get better. Yeah, for sure. And maybe a tactic that, that I've had to deal with in the past,

00:50:45.460 like me, like I've literally had to deal with this idea of like moving beyond and, and becoming,

00:50:51.640 you know, a different man and, and people holding onto the way I was. And I, one thing that helped

00:50:59.760 me at least was not, I wouldn't fight against the perception. Right. So I would own it. So if,

00:51:07.100 if Ryan, for instance, you, you had a, you know, we had a shady history, right. And you kind of bring

00:51:11.900 it up like, Hey, you know, I can't trust you because of, you know, blah, blah, blah. I wouldn't

00:51:16.280 argue. I understand. Yeah. Totally understand, man. I'm sorry. Like, but how do you want me to

00:51:22.420 address this now? And don't argue, don't argue with like, well, but I've changed. No, no. Yeah.

00:51:27.780 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Totally get it. I understand where you're coming from and then keep moving on,

00:51:33.800 keep moving on and, you know, stay on the path. It's sometimes, especially with a spouse,

00:51:38.740 it might take time to, and it's tough. I'm, I think you're dead on with that. I I'm thinking about

00:51:44.420 this as you're talking and, and wondering in my own personal life, if I have people that are close

00:51:49.100 to me who don't believe in me. Yeah. And I'm honestly having a very hard time identifying one

00:51:55.640 person that is, and, and there's a couple of reasons for that. I'm going to say this at the

00:52:00.020 risk of sounding arrogant or egotistical. What would already do? Yeah. So it's might as well just double

00:52:05.760 down on it. The truth is what, why wouldn't they believe in me? Like, like what, there's no reason

00:52:14.900 for them not to, because I've proven time and time again, that I'm, that I'm somebody who can be

00:52:20.360 trusted, that I'm somebody who can be relied upon, that I'm a man of my word. Like I fall short. I'm

00:52:24.760 not saying that, but why wouldn't they believe in me? So that's, that's one consideration.

00:52:29.540 The other consideration is I'm probably overlooking somebody who doesn't believe in me,

00:52:33.700 but I just don't care. So I can't even think about who that person would be enough to you to care.

00:52:38.680 Yeah. Or because it just doesn't matter. Maybe they are close and I don't even know because I

00:52:44.220 just haven't even given it much consideration. You know, I've had, I have people in my life who

00:52:49.520 probably maybe they think less of me, but I don't know. I don't know if it is because

00:52:55.660 that doesn't, I don't concern myself with that. I'm not concerned with that.

00:53:00.300 Yeah. Well, I mean, currently if I'm wrong, but part of that is because you, your, your mission

00:53:06.200 is more than that, right? Your mission isn't to gain the acceptance of, of maybe all these people,

00:53:11.480 but your focus, your, your goal and your focus is somewhere else. Yeah. And it's agnostic to whether

00:53:16.980 you get that approval of the masses or, you know, that's exactly right. It doesn't matter. It does.

00:53:22.680 I, the amount of time that I spend thinking about the people who don't like me is literally zero

00:53:29.200 so much so that I can't even identify who that would be. I think there's people who say things,

00:53:35.860 but I can't identify who that would be. So how do you get to that point? That's the real question.

00:53:40.840 You know, how do you get to the point where you, you aren't worried about that? Be so heavily

00:53:46.660 focused on yourself and your own improvement and getting better in your own way that you feel so

00:53:56.200 assured and confident in yourself that nothing else really matters.

00:53:59.660 Totally. Totally. Almost to the point of if, when you get that, those naysayers, it's almost like,

00:54:06.360 are you joking? Like it seems so crazy because that's just not who you are.

00:54:12.400 Yeah. I either think those individuals are joking or my next reaction or response is what is wrong

00:54:18.300 with this person? It's never what is wrong with me. Yeah. They're always, they're so out of touch.

00:54:23.860 Right. Right. Why is this, or why are they so miserable? Like what's happened to this person

00:54:29.120 or what hasn't happened to this person that they accepted it and taken it so personally that their

00:54:34.220 life is so miserable that they need to come after me. Like, I don't, I don't, if somebody comes to me

00:54:38.840 and says, now look, if somebody I trust and admire and respect comes to me and says, Hey, Ryan, you

00:54:43.200 know, um, here's some things to consider that might be blind spots. You need to be aware of. That's

00:54:48.000 different. That's not what I'm talking about. But if somebody, I don't know, comes at me, it's like,

00:54:52.120 well, what is wrong with that guy? I've never thought, Oh man, maybe I am a loser. No, I don't

00:54:58.120 think that at all. Cause I've proven I'm not to myself, not to anybody else to myself.

00:55:02.320 Yeah. All right. Ducks rich with all the help out there in the manosphere, where would you start

00:55:09.420 or continue? I'm following and listening with, with, uh, listening to your podcast along with

00:55:16.020 many other guests. I am overwhelmed on the information overloading right now. So kind of

00:55:22.200 like this, you know, and we've talked about this in the past is just like all this information coming

00:55:25.880 in maybe a little bit of a overload. Yeah. I think, um, Andy for Silla calls them, I believe

00:55:32.820 he uses this term learning zombies where you're just like learning, learning, learning, learning,

00:55:38.240 learning. And you're just kind of walking around, like learn all I need to learn. I used to be that

00:55:42.500 way. I'd listen to so many podcasts and books on tape and then I would never act. And then I'd feel

00:55:47.100 guilty for not acting. And it was overwhelming. Like this guy's saying, so I get it. Uh, the other thing

00:55:52.300 that learning can be is a bit like the term is mental masturbation, right? Like it feels good.

00:55:57.160 And you think you're actually moving the needle, but you're just consuming and you're not ever like

00:56:00.900 actually doing anything. So stop doing that and go to work here. Here's what I would suggest to you.

00:56:06.680 And of course this is going to be biased, but I wouldn't have created this movement or these

00:56:11.660 resources. If I didn't think they'd serve you, there's two resources you need. If you're ready to

00:56:16.400 move forward, there's sovereignty. That's the book behind you, Kip. We talked about that earlier.

00:56:20.460 And then there's the battle ready program, order of man.com slash battle ready. I would say

00:56:25.520 if you want to get off the X right now, like you actually want to start moving, do the battle ready

00:56:31.380 course. That's where you start 17 emails over 30 days. It's going to help you identify what you

00:56:37.660 want, what you should be doing, how you're going to go about doing it. And it's going to put you on

00:56:40.960 the path and then you act. So if you're ready to go order of man.com slash battle ready, that's a

00:56:45.680 great resource for you. That's why we created it. Yeah. And just to reiterate the

00:56:50.240 importance of the action part of learning, I do think there's a big difference between

00:56:55.480 intellectually being able to regurgitate information versus actually knowing for yourself.

00:57:00.940 And that concept of knowing for yourself is made available through action, not through just

00:57:06.560 intellectually understanding something, you know, and I don't think it connects. It doesn't become

00:57:11.180 yours. If that makes sense until you actually act upon it. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. I think that's

00:57:17.800 right. There's a difference between knowledge and wisdom. Yeah. You know, we can, we can acquire

00:57:22.980 all the knowledge and still be a moron. Yeah. We see that. We see that in a lot of very intelligent

00:57:28.800 people. Right. Success. Yeah. Either no success or they, they don't operate in reality. They don't

00:57:36.820 operate in the real world. They're so delusional and, and, and blinded by their intellect that they

00:57:44.760 don't actually apply any of it. They don't see how their words and their actions impact themselves and

00:57:50.780 other people, but they're really smart. Okay. Well, that's part of the equation. And wisdom is the

00:57:57.400 application of knowledge. I should say the proper application of that knowledge. So move from

00:58:04.740 knowledgeable to wise. That's what we should be all striving to do. Yeah. Good distinction. Brad

00:58:11.500 Becker 23. I'm struggling with my connection quadrant. This first quarter of the battle

00:58:16.620 planner has been great with in all the areas I'm right on track. I've been very introspective

00:58:22.780 this quarter and have really focused on myself. Uh, I am a single guy with no wife or kids to focus

00:58:28.340 on. I've got a brand, a band of brothers who are all really open with each other already. And I don't

00:58:33.420 feel like we're lacking in our relationships with each other. My question is this, how do you gents 1.00

00:58:38.480 adjust fire on a quadrants? That's not really taking off for you. Thank you.

00:58:44.820 So let me just wrap my head around this. He feels like his relationships are solid. Is that what he's

00:58:49.880 saying? He, and yeah, yeah. And I think it's a little bit of like, Hey, I'm, I'm pretty good in

00:58:55.340 this connection quadrant. So I'm not really progressing in it because it seems like it's already in a good

00:59:00.760 place. Okay. So here's the way I think you're looking at this and it's okay to look at it this way.

00:59:05.680 Like you're, you're looking at what can you get out of this? Like how, how can these other

00:59:11.000 relationships serve me? And I already have everything I need. So I'm good. Okay. Well,

00:59:16.540 that's part of the equation. Not everyone else. Right. So maybe shift your focus from how can these

00:59:23.480 relationships better me and serve me? And by the way, there's nothing wrong with that. Relationships

00:59:28.160 should be reciprocal. The reason I married my wife is because partly because there was some value in it

00:59:34.460 for me, right? Like the reason Kip, you and I do this is partly because there's value in it for me.

00:59:40.720 Let's not pretend that's not the case. It is. Yeah. Okay. For sure. But also the other part of that

00:59:46.520 equation is how do you serve other people? Is there somebody you can mentor? Is there somebody who's

00:59:52.360 really struggling? Is there, is there somebody who maybe could learn a new skill that you have?

00:59:57.600 How can you add value? How can you enhance another person's life? How can you make their life better?

01:00:03.560 How can, how can their life be better just because you're in it? And maybe these are some questions to

01:00:08.440 ponder and consider as you try to dial in your connection quadrant so that you can focus on what

01:00:16.000 other people are getting out of the relationship, not just yourself. Yeah. Well, and I, I actually think

01:00:22.880 that that's, that's the tall tale sign of guys progressing within the iron council. Like I use

01:00:31.100 that analogy a lot. Um, and, and to learn more about the iron council, you guys can go to order

01:00:36.020 man.com slash iron council, but, but guys always join the IC for them, right? It's like, okay, what I'm

01:00:42.880 going to get from this and, and guys make great strides and they make great improvement. And I think the

01:00:48.260 tall tale natural order of things is they come in for themselves and they stay for others. And now

01:00:55.500 they're there because the value they provide their battle team, because the value that it's providing

01:01:00.520 their families, the connection quadrants more about other people, the quadrant on condition is about

01:01:06.680 other people. It's not just about them. And, and, and, and ultimately goes into protect, provide,

01:01:13.480 and preside and us serving our families and our communities. That's right. But do the thing that

01:01:19.420 we always talk about is like, first you got to, you know, you need the best tools possible to do the

01:01:23.940 job, which, and, and like you said, that's good, but that's also the sign of progression. I think as,

01:01:30.040 as we focus on ourselves, our, our, we, we end up having an outward mindset to serve other individuals.

01:01:36.220 Yes. There, and there's a reason for being selfish at times and it's so that you can serve other

01:01:44.920 people. Yeah. And the natural by-product is you getting better anyway. So then it works out of,

01:01:50.840 you know, anyway. Right. Right. The reason that you, for example, the reason you should work out

01:01:55.700 is so that you can have the energy and, and, and the skillset and the strength to be able to help

01:02:01.640 other people. Should you need, should it needed to be called upon the reason that you're going to

01:02:07.540 study for the new degree or designation or credential is so that you can serve your clients

01:02:13.600 more effectively. Guys, the reason we do things is so that we can serve. So even selfishness in a way,

01:02:22.300 if you have the right motive of that selfishness can be used as a catalyst for growth in other people's

01:02:28.180 lives, the reason I show up the way that I do from this podcast to when I wake up to when I go to bed

01:02:33.520 to how I perform to my exercise is so I can serve my family and you guys more effectively. Tim Kennedy

01:02:38.840 actually talked about this when we did our podcast a couple of weeks ago. I asked him about his life's

01:02:43.440 purpose, I believe is the term I use. And without hesitation, he said to protect and preserve human

01:02:48.420 life. And that's why he does everything that he does. Sheepdog and jujitsu and martial arts and

01:02:56.160 his military career is, is he's become proficient so that he can fulfill his mission or his purpose

01:03:04.160 to protect and preserve human life. He gets that. He understands that most people who are successful

01:03:10.340 get that Andy Frisilla. He works out, he works hard when he was 300 plus pounds and out of shape.

01:03:17.400 And I met him for the very first time when he was that way, he told me he was less capable of serving

01:03:22.420 other people. So he got in shape so he could be better at his job and at his life. He understands

01:03:27.880 that. Jocko gets that. Jordan Peterson gets that. Joe Rogan gets that. Get more proficient so that you

01:03:35.140 can serve people in your own way, more proficiently, more effectively. I think I lost you again. We're

01:03:44.340 having internet connections for a second issues today. Yeah, I got your back. All right. All right.

01:03:49.520 A couple more. All right. Lyndon Vano, especially with your financial advisor knowledge, I would love

01:03:56.240 to get some advice on how to prepare to be the first time home buyer. Things to look for, things to avoid,

01:04:01.940 common mistakes single men make in purchasing a house and et cetera. Thank you, Ryan.

01:04:07.300 Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to tell you how to invest necessarily because I'm not a real estate

01:04:11.200 investor and there's other people who are way more qualified than I am to talk about these issues.

01:04:15.840 We did have Brandon Turner on the podcast, Bigger Pockets podcast. Those guys do a lot about real

01:04:20.740 estate. So if you're looking for real estate deals and transactions and how to structure the deal and

01:04:26.080 what to look for, that's a better resource. But here's what I would tell you for first time home

01:04:31.500 buyers, I think is what he said. Is that right? Yep. Yep. Okay. So first have some money in your

01:04:37.620 account. That way you have the, excuse me, have the buffer built up. Number two, whatever you believe

01:04:44.280 your mortgage payment will be, start making that mortgage payment to yourself. So if you're paying,

01:04:49.360 let's just say hypothetically a thousand dollars in rent right now, and your mortgage payment with

01:04:54.340 taxes and insurance is going to be 1800, then you need to be paying a thousand in rent and 800 to a

01:05:01.220 separate fund. And if you say, well, I can't do that, then you can't buy the house. And it's amazing

01:05:06.880 how many people overlook that. The other thing I want you to consider is that whatever your payment is

01:05:12.460 on the house, let's say again, with taxes and insurance, it's $1,800. You need to say, you need

01:05:18.000 to have, I would say somewhere between 10 to 20% more than that. So in this case, 180 to $360

01:05:24.120 more every month that you can set aside into a fund to replace leaky faucets, the carpet,

01:05:32.200 when the heater, the AC goes out, you need to have some sort of fun for that. Otherwise you're going to

01:05:38.040 be caught with your pants down and it's going to suck when you have to pay eight grand for new 0.58

01:05:42.940 carpeting throughout the house. Or, uh, you know, the, the flood in the basement that just happened

01:05:47.480 because of, of the weather or, or whatever. Right. So, so many unknown costs when you buy your first

01:05:56.200 house, you're like, Holy crap. I got it. Right. Like people don't even think about like,

01:05:59.920 Oh, I need to buy a lawnmower now. And I need to buy, you know, it's like, Oh,

01:06:03.080 well, what's the, what's the adage? What, what you own owns you. So remember that. And it might,

01:06:08.980 you might be okay with that. I am, I own a home. We own several homes. Actually. I think Kip you do

01:06:13.840 as well. Like, and I know other guys, highly successful guys who rent because they get that

01:06:17.900 concept. So you have to go into it with your eyes wide open, knowing what you're getting yourself

01:06:23.000 into. And what else I would say outside of the financial relevancy of this is start to develop

01:06:29.140 some basic home maintenance and repair skills, know how to fix a toilet, know how to fix a sink,

01:06:36.360 know how to lay hardwood floor, know how to put down carpet, know how to build things like these

01:06:41.740 know some basic electrical stuff. These are little things that are going to save you a lot of money

01:06:46.960 because when the toilet breaks or whatever, and you have to call a plumber, that's going to be way

01:06:52.940 more expensive than you just going to the local hardware store and buying the new floaty thing or

01:06:57.780 whatever, and putting that in yourself. Okay. You can do it. You just got to figure it out.

01:07:02.580 I've replaced toilets. We've done some basic electrical work, replace switches, replace

01:07:08.540 ceiling fans. Like you can learn these things. They're simple and you should be able to do that

01:07:13.700 stuff yourself. Yeah. All right. Brendan Watt, advice for someone looking to change careers or start

01:07:21.080 out on their own. Those are two drastic different things, but well, they are. And it's so broad

01:07:29.860 like advice for somebody starting on their own or starting a new career path. Get after it. Like

01:07:36.880 start it. Here's what I would say. Start at a don't start at P or, or Q, like start at a everybody wants

01:07:46.680 to start at Z. Well, I just want to have a new career. Okay. That's Z. Yeah. Start at a, what is,

01:07:54.880 I don't know what a is because it's such a broad question that you're asking right now, but

01:07:58.280 let's say hypothetically, you want to start your own business, teaching how people, how to shoot

01:08:06.940 firearms. Uh, so what is a for teaching somebody how to shoot firearms as a, as a, as a business?

01:08:15.960 Well, you probably ought to just get a social media account. That that's what I would say a is.

01:08:22.320 And then you want to get your phone, not the best camera that money can buy your phone. That's a B.

01:08:29.300 Okay. And take some videos of you shooting with some basic one, two, three, four tactical

01:08:35.240 instructions, not everything, not all advanced, not all the intricacies and the inner workings.

01:08:40.360 You don't need to go buy a range. You don't need to have a film crew. No, your phone, you shooting,

01:08:46.160 teaching the proper, you know, grip stance, positioning, trigger squeeze, all that kind of stuff

01:08:51.360 and be consistent about that. Now. Okay. You've got, you've got a social media account.

01:08:56.460 You've got some videos on there. Do you have a website? No, not yet. Okay. Well then that's B.

01:09:01.620 You need a website. So get your website going. Okay. Now maybe you need to invest in a new

01:09:07.740 firearm or some targets. And that's step C. The point that I'm making here is I don't want you or

01:09:14.900 anybody else just to jump to Z like, I'm going to do this. I'm going to go all it. Okay. But what

01:09:19.620 about all this other stuff that you need to do? Part of the problem with social media and even with

01:09:24.440 this movement is I have a lot of people to reach out, right? I'm going to start something

01:09:27.520 similar. I'm going to start something similar. I'm going to start something similar and it's

01:09:30.340 going to be successful. And I'm going to have these guests on. I'm going to do this and this

01:09:32.600 and this. I'm like, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. What you've seen on social media from me and from

01:09:39.260 other people that you respect and admire and want to be like is, is the effort of years and years of work,

01:09:47.740 six years for us at this point of behind the scenes stuff that's happening that you don't see,

01:09:53.820 right? You don't see when we had the failed, our first failed event. You don't see when you had a

01:10:01.200 mass exodus from the iron council for things that you didn't do correctly. You don't, you don't see

01:10:06.920 that stuff. You just see the wins. And so you're a little bit naive in going into this thing. Most people

01:10:13.140 are, I was. So take it in stride, start with point a, then move to B, then C, then D, then keep going.

01:10:23.280 Yeah. I know that's a really broad general answer, but it's a really broad general question to just

01:10:27.780 figure out what step a is and get going. Well, and one thing to consider as a possible step a

01:10:33.260 is, are you killing it in your current job? Right? Like, are you taking advantage of the opportunity

01:10:39.580 that you have right now to learn whatever it is for you to learn from your current position

01:10:44.880 and situation? Like, make sure to do that. Like take advantage of your current circumstance.

01:10:51.120 Cause sometimes we have a tendency to think like, Oh, well I changed my job and then, you know,

01:10:55.580 then I'll be, or then I'll learn or whatever. Learn now, take advantage of what you have.

01:11:01.520 That's always a good step. You know, that's a good point. I'll give you an example of that and

01:11:06.220 how that would look. So I was about six, five, six years into my financial planning business.

01:11:12.580 And I was working with an organization out of Salt Lake. Uh, and it came to a point where

01:11:21.040 the value I was receiving from the organization was significantly less than the value that I was

01:11:27.780 providing at that stage in my career. And I realized this and I thought to myself, well,

01:11:32.320 I've got to go out on my own. I've got to start my own business and my own organization and how I'm

01:11:35.940 going to do this. It was very overwhelming. It would have been easy for me to stick around.

01:11:39.800 And, and what I did is I gave myself a deadline and it was about six to eight months. And I said,

01:11:45.080 I'm for the next six to eight months, I'm going to learn everything that I need to learn here

01:11:50.000 in this organization where the risk is lower, where I have support and I have the infrastructure and I

01:11:57.300 have all these little buffers built in place. I'm going to learn for the next six to eight months,

01:12:00.640 everything from organizational structure to rules and regulations. Cause I was in the financial

01:12:06.960 planning industry to finding a place where I would have, you know, be able to lease an office space

01:12:12.100 on my own to the tax ramifications to how to set up my own registered investment advisory firm.

01:12:18.420 I spent six to eight months learning all of that, going to training, figuring this all out,

01:12:24.100 asking people who had done it before. And then in six months, eight months, I was ready to go.

01:12:28.580 And at that point I pulled the trigger because to your point, I spent six to eight months maximizing

01:12:34.380 my current position, knowing that I didn't have one foot out the door, but knowing that it was

01:12:39.180 going to happen. And this was preparatory for that day. And it made the transition not seamless.

01:12:45.320 I won't tell you that, but it made it significantly more manageable. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. And you didn't

01:12:52.120 pass up those opportunities, right? If you didn't do that and you just moved on, you've been like,

01:12:55.620 damn it. I should have, uh, you know, I should have invested the time and understood that before

01:12:59.960 I left and who knows what else, right? Exactly. Yeah, exactly. All right. Well, thanks guys for

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01:14:01.820 dot order of man.com. Perfect. All right, guys, we appreciate the questions. Make sure you subscribe

01:14:07.880 because, uh, I just wrote this down. We've got a couple of good podcast conversations coming out in

01:14:12.240 a couple of weeks, next couple of weeks. Uh, Steven Pressfield, if my new conversation with

01:14:16.440 Steven is coming out in a couple of weeks. And then I just had a great conversation last week with,

01:14:21.400 uh, Robert green and that one will be coming out in the next week or two as well. So, and we had

01:14:26.640 any penny, uh, on yesterday as of the, yeah. And some great episodes recently too, you know,

01:14:31.700 like Tim Kennedy was awesome. Randall Wallace was, I love that interview. That was one of my favorite.

01:14:37.340 Yeah. It was super great. Really different than what we've done in the past. Uh, but,

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Order of Man - February 24, 2021

Winning the Cultural War for Masculinity, Overcoming the Need for Approval, and Knowledge Vs. Wisdom ｜ ASK ME ANYTHING

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