Pearl - August 04, 2025


2 Trad Wives Took an L and Can't Handle It | Pearl Daily


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1 hour and 48 minutes

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181.63579

Word Count

19,676

Sentence Count

325

Misogynist Sentences

230

Hate Speech Sentences

132


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00:00:00.000 Most answered very quickly, no, because men are useless.
00:00:05.460 This headline from The Hill, it caught my eye.
00:00:08.220 Most young men are single.
00:00:09.900 Most young women are not.
00:00:11.240 Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.
00:00:15.940 It's a different world now.
00:00:16.980 Like, we don't need men the way that they used to.
00:00:18.980 Nobody needs men.
00:00:20.220 The future is female.
00:00:23.260 Men and women are drifting further apart, and society is crumbling because of it.
00:00:30.000 A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.
00:00:33.060 You've kind of got the trad con versus red pill thing.
00:00:35.760 This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.
00:00:39.320 You need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.
00:00:43.420 Marriage is a bond and it's a sacred bond.
00:00:46.040 It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.
00:00:49.060 Now many of the red pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.
00:00:54.000 Hannah Pearl Davis or just pearly things.
00:00:57.340 One of the most controversial faces in all of the Internet.
00:01:01.340 She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.
00:01:04.200 Because if me and you were in a business contract, you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.
00:01:09.360 Gee, what could go wrong there?
00:01:11.500 74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.
00:01:15.100 Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.
00:01:17.980 Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.
00:01:20.640 I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.
00:01:25.500 Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.
00:01:28.840 You need no evidence.
00:01:29.980 When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for.
00:01:33.680 And you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.
00:01:37.000 I interviewed them on the other side.
00:01:39.560 I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.
00:01:41.840 How much did you spend trying to get him back?
00:01:43.980 The legal fees alone was about $200,000.
00:01:46.320 Before you know it, you're homeless.
00:01:47.780 You're literally just thrown out onto the street.
00:01:49.660 We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.
00:01:52.140 Wives are taught to leave their husbands.
00:01:53.800 and then daughters grow up without their fathers.
00:01:56.400 Family is the foundation of society.
00:01:58.100 Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.
00:02:01.280 A lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole of happiness, endless happiness.
00:02:05.560 Feminism's biggest failure is it lies to women.
00:02:07.560 We tell women to date as many guys as possible.
00:02:09.360 We tell them to put off family into marriage.
00:02:11.160 You are allowed to leave your perfect husband.
00:02:13.880 You are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend.
00:02:18.300 Oh, freeze your eggs, have an abortion.
00:02:20.120 What? You're evil.
00:02:21.200 I don't think there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail.
00:02:25.260 Like if you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic,
00:02:29.340 naturally the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail anyway.
00:02:32.080 It's self-sabotage.
00:02:33.000 That's the thing, like women are so willing to leave marriages because they're not happy.
00:02:36.800 This is not about happiness.
00:02:38.560 The most important thing is the children.
00:02:40.860 And the problem is we have a modern society where it's me, me, me, my feelings,
00:02:45.340 leave when I feel like it instead of doing what's best for the kids.
00:02:49.420 This myth that we live in an age of male privilege, where's my male privilege?
00:02:53.180 They think, well, men have all the rights.
00:02:54.720 They have all the power.
00:02:56.000 Privileged patriarchal system that we have.
00:02:58.280 Why doesn't our society care about men's rights?
00:03:00.900 I have no friends, no wife, and no social life.
00:03:04.140 Men are alone in this situation.
00:03:06.040 Men are homeless.
00:03:07.020 Men are thinking about eating guns.
00:03:08.780 I've seen so many men on the brink of suicide, and they didn't do anything wrong.
00:03:13.080 How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?
00:03:18.660 The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.
00:03:22.480 Women are helplessly dependent upon men.
00:03:25.160 The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose, or alcohol,
00:03:29.140 three times higher among men than among women.
00:03:32.220 Culture is telling men, you are no good.
00:03:34.080 You've got to get your act together.
00:03:35.280 I think men have failed themselves.
00:03:36.900 What kind of a man are you?
00:03:38.140 What kind of a woman are you going to attract?
00:03:40.100 If men are in trouble, so are women.
00:03:42.560 everybody knows this is a huge problem but nobody wants to admit it every single woman at the table
00:03:47.920 said they wanted a man 500k 500k 300k 200k am i crazy everything is really set up against you
00:03:53.280 to fail as a man if men make less than women women don't want to marry them so you know who
00:03:58.320 wants more economically and emotionally viable men women i don't want to be an independent woman
00:04:04.760 anymore i don't want to be a strong independent woman i'm over it when is it going to be my turn
00:04:09.980 Where are we meeting the men that don't stop?
00:04:11.820 I can't keep having these same conversations.
00:04:14.620 The only simp here is you, Pearl.
00:04:15.860 You simp for men.
00:04:16.580 No, I think you simp for women.
00:04:17.900 She's a provocateur.
00:04:18.860 She says stupid stuff.
00:04:20.060 But Pearl is right about this.
00:04:21.300 It's already happening.
00:04:22.460 It's just not out in the open yet.
00:04:23.920 Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairy tale ending because men don't want
00:04:27.520 a wife and women can't find a husband.
00:04:29.580 The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.
00:04:33.820 We go into population decline and our economy goes into decline.
00:04:37.920 Civilization will crumble.
00:04:39.220 The American story does not end well. This is an existential crisis failing young men.
00:05:09.220 segment last time because I kind of I'll start going off on tangents and you know it can be
00:05:15.800 kind of fun but before we get into that guys please make sure if you can you can donate to
00:05:21.680 the divorce documentary the divorce documentary is something we have been attempting to put
00:05:26.760 together but you know society just really doesn't want it to come out one scorned woman dragged me
00:05:33.880 to court another scorned woman demonetized my channel for a year and a half i had to let go
00:05:39.920 20 employees a whole thing all because they get so angry when we give this information that women
00:05:45.800 are whores not all and um that you know marriage is a terrible deal and you know the reason the
00:05:55.820 reason that they don't want this information getting out is everyone's paid by women i remember
00:06:01.640 I had a conversation with my dad once and he's, he's such a saint. He's like the biggest saint
00:06:08.100 ever. And he talked about, um, how, cause I told him that everyone's paid by women. And then he
00:06:15.580 said, no, that's not true. I wasn't paid by women. He's like, I, I sell, um, they sell soft sold
00:06:20.560 software to like, um, HVAC plumbing technician, like that sort of thing. And I said, dad,
00:06:28.080 who's hiring them men will figure out how to how to do it themselves women will hire them you're
00:06:35.040 indirectly also paid by women he's like and i was like yeah dad yeah but he's so nice my dad's like
00:06:43.440 he's like a saint saint saint i would call him saint dan um thank you to sam for the donation
00:06:51.780 alexander for another donation william for another donation okay so um those are the people
00:07:00.260 if you want to donate the link to that is in the description all right so today we're going to be
00:07:06.460 reacting to um we're good and by the way if you guys like this t-shirt it's the audacity network
00:07:15.820 you know i can sell these again i stopped selling them because people didn't buy them enough
00:07:20.400 Okay, so I wanted to talk about a couple thoughts I had on, here we go, on tweets that I saw.
00:07:30.960 This one was from Coach Greg Adams, and he said, she will cheat on a millionaire, she'll
00:07:36.260 cheat on the guy with status, she'll cheat on the guy with muscles, cheat on game.
00:07:39.780 If she doesn't want to be kept, nothing will keep her.
00:07:42.120 Loyalty isn't earned, it's chosen, choose wisely.
00:07:44.240 And this made me think about someone I know in my life.
00:07:48.660 and recently there was a breakup between this couple and you know and he's devastated right
00:07:55.080 um but he had no idea the stuff this girl was doing before he and he might think it's him
00:08:03.520 right he might think that it's something he did that couldn't keep her and yada yada yada
00:08:07.500 but the truth is you know she was someone who just didn't want to be kept she didn't want to
00:08:13.120 be you know she's someone that has a hard time with monogamy and that's a lot of women
00:08:17.240 we have this idea that women are somehow monogamous and I don't really understand how we
00:08:22.940 have this idea considering how much of horrors we see women being right okay so I I had some
00:08:33.140 pushback there's this voice in my head sometimes that talks and not actually not actually
00:08:42.420 okay so there is a tweet that i was tagged in recently and i'm kind of doing more harm than
00:08:48.400 good because i know that some of you will in fact subscribe to this girl's only fans now
00:08:53.480 apparently lil tay has decided to drop an only fans lil tay it says lil tay be poppin now i
00:09:00.040 don't really understand who this chick is um but i think she's some sort of internet celebrity
00:09:05.320 and the challenge you get with the mini britney spears of the world is giving that much attention
00:09:11.720 to a young woman is kind of a dangerous thing because you're giving them a lot of power,
00:09:16.500 power to make money, power to ruin someone's reputation, power to have access to high value
00:09:21.540 men. Um, and so I guess she tweeted, you have 24 hours to vote yes or no on whether I should make
00:09:27.500 an OnlyFans. If you don't respond, it counts as an automatic yes. Now, obviously this woman's
00:09:32.160 going to make the OnlyFans anyway. And you see the, the responses. And what I was trying to
00:09:38.300 explain is um so michael knowles and this is kind of like a blue-pilled kind of simp answer right
00:09:45.300 because this is a shit test she's she's testing to she's basically saying like she is making
00:09:52.000 marketing for her only fans she is going to make the only fans and what she wants you to do is
00:09:57.720 engage and market it and you know if michael knowles if he really cared about her not doing it or like
00:10:04.660 thought this was wrong he would just ignore it right he would just ignore it because he doesn't
00:10:08.720 want to market for this um he said since but the thing is with guys they don't realize what women
00:10:14.400 are doing or maybe they don't care he says since you asked for my opinion whether or not the
00:10:18.620 question is sincere i'll give it don't no amount of money is worth your dignity and you'll regret
00:10:23.200 it immensely if you do so and i thought that's such a blue-pilled way of thinking because a lot
00:10:28.300 of women do it and they don't regret it at all and it was worth their dignity and if anything
00:10:33.320 nowadays they don't even lose their dignity doing it I don't say that in a happy way I don't say
00:10:38.900 that be like I'm happy about it but women if anything they're rewarded and they're accepted
00:10:46.380 into normal society these days all right so I think that's the only one I said I said you may
00:10:54.620 as well do it because I don't think you have much else to offer oh wait let me let me call in Bryson
00:11:02.100 because bryson said he was disappointed in me for this response and i just think let's beef
00:11:07.540 it out live bryson all right let me hold on let me text
00:11:19.140 i'm about to text him the link guys tell me when he gets on because i i tweeted this
00:11:26.580 and he's a demonic advice pearl i'm disappointed
00:11:32.100 well my advice my advice is at least honest at this point she's already
00:11:40.140 mentally accepted that she's gonna do it I'm sure the pictures are already in
00:11:44.420 place you might as well just do it you're pretty set on it so it's now not
00:11:57.280 my problem and if anything having outrage towards it i just think mark it's the only fans
00:12:03.680 but you know i i'll bring bryson on the line to in a second i don't know when he'll get on i think
00:12:12.040 he's driving so you guys just let me know when he gets here and i'll go through some of my other
00:12:16.800 tweets that we got for the day before we get into the main reaction of the day so i guess she's made
00:12:24.880 over $1 million in three hours. Now, Attune says OnlyFans must be banned. And I get a little bit
00:12:32.300 irritated. I get irritated when people say that it should be banned. Even knowing, because I'm
00:12:37.940 a hypocrite, that at one point I said the same thing. But if we ban corn, guys have a sex drive,
00:12:46.440 right? So what are these guys going to do? I understand there's some men that claim that they
00:12:54.160 they quit corn but I want you guys to know I believe none of you and none of that is verifiable
00:13:00.520 I just have to take your word that you never did it yeah okay okay so if we ban corn it's really
00:13:09.520 just a solution to women being too hard to have sex with that's so I don't really think it's the
00:13:16.240 end of the world um oh another another trad um Isabella Moody where was she she says only fans
00:13:27.880 prostitutes and simps who subscribe shouldn't be able to vote I don't really agree with that um
00:13:34.940 maybe the prostitutes because you guys know how I feel about that topic even though I can't get
00:13:39.880 into it but the simps i mean i think if a guy look as much of i may not agree with it or you
00:13:48.160 know feels kind of icky if a guy's building like the infrastructure of society and doing a manual
00:13:54.720 labor job i don't think you as a youtuber have the right to tell him he's not able to be able
00:14:01.700 to vote just because he paid 5.99 to see some boobs i don't think it's that i don't i really
00:14:07.020 don't think it's that deep um the the the hookers i would agree but that's because i don't
00:14:14.300 i think it's more the the gender i can't get into it um let's see what else we got
00:14:24.220 oh this is another trad wife so apparently um rebecca and this is a girl
00:14:31.500 it's just it's the fake trads they just they drive me into oblivion um because you're not
00:14:39.920 what you say you are you're not um i'm happy you figured it out you stuck the landing but
00:14:48.720 there's no such thing as a traditional woman in this society so it says help robin go into labor
00:14:55.160 by sending her the most obnoxious rage bait rage come on okay give me give me i'm going to finish
00:15:02.440 this thought and then i'll bring them up rage tweeting pearly things brought my youngest into
00:15:07.560 this world and the interesting thing is these are married women getting upset at me i just can't
00:15:16.520 imagine a world where I am married happily to a man, right? I'm, I'm happily married. I'm in love.
00:15:27.540 I have these children and I just cannot imagine being an involved mother and still me, the random
00:15:36.720 internet lady triggering you so much that I, I even brought you into labor. I have that much
00:15:45.340 power over you is amazing. Um, the other thing is I don't like, they always say I rage bait tweet,
00:15:54.760 but they don't tell me what I say. That's so enraging. I mean, I'll stand on the women
00:16:01.480 shouldn't, I can't say it, but I'll stand on that. That's what I think. Um, and so it's almost like
00:16:08.920 a way that they use when they don't like your opinion. They just don't like it. They don't
00:16:14.340 like what you have to say so now you're a rage baiter um but from one um rage bait i guess
00:16:22.620 personality um accused maybe to another we have friend of the show bryson gray he's gonna call
00:16:31.440 in apparently he's on a road trip but he said he was really disappointed in me as we said earlier
00:16:37.540 and i think we should bring him up and we can have a conversation about it bryson how are you
00:16:44.320 is he on yeah can you see me um i can't see you but it's because of how my tv is set up so i you
00:16:52.420 might be on screen or not i don't know i'd have to see you okay can you hear me though i can hear
00:16:59.300 you how are you doing good on the way back from high point of carolina on the road oh really how
00:17:06.580 how's your show been going you getting some good guests on i haven't like kept doing my show because
00:17:13.600 been traveling way too much what like touring or what yeah touring and uh yeah i've been doing way
00:17:21.920 too much with music so cool um so i wanted to hear about your disappointment in me today i just saw
00:17:29.440 the tweet and i was like let's just let's just bring them on yeah yeah very very disappointed
00:17:36.800 pearl because i mean i'm not even insinuating that her request was genuine but for the people
00:17:47.380 she tagged i like if you're gonna respond it's a great opportunity to say no because you can do
00:17:55.220 something different like we'll tell you right i don't know how relevant she is in 2020 in the big
00:18:00.920 2025 but but rather than i how old is her like i'm how old is she well but my thing is she just
00:18:09.880 wants to use you saying don't do it for the marketing so i'm just like you're not going
00:18:14.200 to get that out of me let's respond regardless so you have the market regardless the only reason
00:18:18.600 i even saw the post is because of your post under that's true um but i just i just thought it was
00:18:25.320 funny to be honest i thought it was funny i thought it was a funny response so i'm just
00:18:31.160 saying it's like i don't know i just i think it's like i think you're gonna market it more
00:18:35.960 arguing with her because there's conflict i really don't know yeah i'm not saying yeah i'm not saying
00:18:42.280 argue yeah i'm not saying argue i'm saying say no fine guy or no time is jesus like you don't have
00:18:52.040 to go back and forth with her but you know just piss something about you know god in there and
00:18:57.240 you know just plant a seed and see what possible to happen yeah i i don't think a seed would be
00:19:02.840 planted i just think she was gonna do it anyway you might as well i don't i mean i've given i've
00:19:12.120 given up bryson i've given up so listen but at the same time this is i viewed it as like
00:19:19.480 just a quick opportunity you feel me i i feel you i understand where you're coming from but i'm just
00:19:25.640 i'm tired you ever get you ever get you ever get tired bryson like you just you know you've seen
00:19:36.360 lauren southern crash out recently and like she's accusing everyone of rape and stuff that's that's
00:19:43.160 typical women woman they do when they need attention is accuse a man of rape it's just like
00:19:49.080 and then the simps defend it do you know what i mean it's just it's like like turning point or
00:19:54.920 will platform for her doing that and i'm just like even on the i'm just tired
00:20:01.880 you know i give up you guys win be whores i don't care
00:20:09.000 they gotta tell people to repeat you know i mean you never know lauren southern i don't i you know
00:20:15.160 based on what i'm hearing it seems like she has a uh uh she's known for being a harlot but um
00:20:21.720 that's still an opportunity to tell her to repent and stop engaging in harlotry nice well do you
00:20:27.720 have any i i just thought it'd be fun to bring you on today so you got any final words to give
00:20:34.120 to me or to give to the people you can say a verse or something yes yes yes yes yes my message to
00:20:41.880 everybody is repenting or they all will perish that's luke 13 3 but also though but also here's
00:20:49.320 the thing though the bible says that god angels rejoice more over one person that turns to god
00:20:58.120 versus anybody else so even though a lot of these women are whores lying about people about rape
00:21:03.240 trying to get attention and money whatever the case may be they're degenerates right now they're
00:21:07.320 probably going to hell but they could also repent so that's my message oh yeah hey bryson this is
00:21:14.920 doug mpa i help i i help pearl with the show and i have to put things in context for you guys so
00:21:20.760 you guys don't know who lil tay is so let me paint the picture because okay pearl remember the other
00:21:27.880 day we were talking about if you were to have a young girl who chose who chooses a career in media
00:21:35.080 at 18 19 20 years old what would be the game plan so lil tay was in middle school right she's this
00:21:43.860 asian girl and she got popular because she was acting ratchet yes on the internet you're tossing
00:21:51.560 around money and trying to rap and cuss and stuff like that so she's already out there in the media
00:22:00.100 already yeah and she can't take that back she she's already lil tay she's already she already
00:22:09.140 has like he's already cooked huh yeah yeah she's already cooked yeah so now see that's that's that's
00:22:15.940 why i disagree so you can't erase your past that's a fact but you can become a new creation in christ
00:22:22.820 and let the old self die i mean bro i used to get drunk and make out random women in bars all the
00:22:29.460 time i lived my name used to be king vodka and i was known for that where i'm from but
00:22:36.500 at the end of the day now i'm bryson gray and i stand on bible matter of fact i think little
00:22:40.900 tay with her past that's more for a reason why i would try to get somebody like her to repent but
00:22:47.860 not not super nice it's like stop trying to be a whore repent be blunt with it you feel okay so
00:22:53.460 what's the biggest difference between you when you were young enough to make a change
00:22:57.540 in Lil Tay. She's a woman. That's the biggest difference. Men are more likely to take
00:23:05.060 accountability, look down the road and say, man, you know, the path I'm going down isn't right.
00:23:11.380 Or they'll have people in their lives, you know, they'll have older men, people around them,
00:23:15.540 giving them advice and say, hey, hey, young buck, if you keep going down this road,
00:23:20.500 it's going to be a bad thing for you. But Lil Tay, she's already surrounded by the wrong people
00:23:25.140 because she's Lil Tay.
00:23:28.100 Come on, man.
00:23:30.320 No, no, I mean, all that I agree with,
00:23:31.740 but instead of taking the fact that
00:23:33.700 they can happen, just because men are more
00:23:35.700 rational, and of course men are more likely to
00:23:37.700 take accountability, of course,
00:23:39.400 but that nature doesn't
00:23:41.680 change the fact that there are some women that have
00:23:43.660 taken accountability for their paths and turned to Christ.
00:23:47.120 Yeah, for
00:23:47.700 now.
00:23:50.420 So, Pearl...
00:23:51.380 Until they don't, like, come on.
00:23:53.440 Yeah.
00:23:53.620 we don't you are crazy bro no it's so true i mean like nala let's take nala for example is one
00:24:01.580 uh but there's so many girls like her they get to a certain age and now they like they they don't
00:24:07.380 want to take accountability for their past they have to they have to because they have to market
00:24:12.580 to betas they got to have a bailout plan they got to get married girl yeah check this out so why is
00:24:18.060 look so bryson according to nala lil take can open only fans for five seven years get 30 40 million
00:24:26.860 dollars and then repent so why why doesn't she just do it now and then repent when she later on
00:24:35.900 what's the difference i mean i mean there is no difference you can repent anytime you're in the
00:24:40.300 saying oh my god wait she gets to get out of jail free card and you guys you are the same sorry go
00:24:49.340 ahead go on yeah yeah let's go yeah y'all not listening so if somebody's a whore you know for
00:24:57.740 woman sleep so like 50 man right what's the super whore name the one that's like
00:25:03.340 popular lily phillips is she the one that looks like a skeleton almost bonnie blue
00:25:11.260 i don't know one umbra okay yeah who cares the horse yeah she's a popular yeah yeah yeah
00:25:20.780 literally right now right she can repent would it be harder for that person to repent
00:25:26.620 yes because they they engage in such filth as long as you're not a reprobate
00:25:32.380 you can repent she might be reprobate but even one of them whores they repent trying to cry
00:25:38.420 stop all that repent but repent requires action you can't just say i repent you have to literally
00:25:42.540 change your life in action and not succumb to the flesh yeah but then you can get all the fun
00:25:47.220 and then you can just change later like if you actually do it so why would you not
00:25:52.280 oh my gosh that's awesome and here's the thing get a bigger caseload you know a bigger um
00:25:59.220 a bigger case file to repent from yeah you might as well have the money if you're gonna repent you
00:26:05.140 might as well repent you know what i mean like yeah no i don't i don't know what you mean
00:26:11.600 you're trying to at this why you're trying to intentionally play guy you're trying to say
00:26:16.720 listen no where'd he go until i have my fun first oh now you're saying you're saying hey
00:26:25.080 god you're saying hey god my plan i am literally planning now to go be a whore and then no no
00:26:31.760 that's that's you trying to play god that's literally reprobate as you like literally
00:26:34.640 spitting in god's face but you could just you can just pretend you didn't later you know what
00:26:39.560 i mean like you can do that's a great thing just pretend oh i didn't plan this out oh yeah i just
00:26:45.760 have to have something to change your heart yeah you have to have something to repent from right
00:26:52.200 now would you argue argue that the more that you repent from the more like do you get more credit
00:27:00.200 for now repenting for more whoring or what i mean no because repentance means the same for
00:27:05.640 everybody turn us in stop being stiffened turn from saying turn to god um but like i said you
00:27:12.520 can be too far gone that's what a reprobate mind is my ability is too far gone but the problem is
00:27:18.120 in y'all case if y'all the way y'all do things y'all all y'all automatically assume the worst
00:27:24.600 and i'm not even saying most times the worst isn't the correct thing it's 2035 man i mean
00:27:31.000 it is a vibe but the problem with assuming the worst as a one size fits all is you miss when
00:27:38.440 it's not that or you miss when it's not that i mean if y'all don't care about being followers
00:27:43.320 of god then you're on prerogative you're gonna go to hell with the whole wait so i'm immoral because
00:27:49.480 i don't believe somebody that's not what i just said there's no way okay that's how i took okay
00:27:57.560 what did i what did i say that's incorrect because the way what you said while i understood it
00:28:03.320 is that if like i am missing the one people that are actually genuinely repenting
00:28:10.840 and then you're just as bad as them but it's like if i don't believe you like why do i have to
00:28:16.360 believe them you know so that's not that's not what i said go ahead go ahead listen a lot of
00:28:21.560 times when i talk to women this happens what i just said what i just said literally okay
00:28:27.080 not saying the majority of the time you aren't correct when you assume the worst i said but
00:28:31.400 when you assume the worst is a one size fits all thing you can miss when it's the opposite
00:28:36.840 and i said that's cool yeah unless you are a person of god and the reason i said that's cool
00:28:42.680 unless you're a person of god is because you have no choice because you're commended things
00:28:47.080 as a person of god you're commanded to do certain things you're commanded to give people opportunity
00:28:51.640 to repent you're commanded to forgive people so if you're not a person of god and you automatically
00:28:56.920 has a one-size-fits-all thing that's fine from early perspective because in most cases you'll
00:29:01.240 be right it's rational i'm not saying it's irrational but if you are a christian you
00:29:04.840 have no choice but to do a case by case basis or else you're bearing false witness and righteous
00:29:10.040 judgment million things but why can't i just believe it in like 20 years like why can't my
00:29:15.000 default be like guilty until you like proven otherwise like why why can't that be my default
00:29:22.120 you know what i mean like my dad he has a phrase he says he expects nothing from everybody like if
00:29:27.160 he hires someone he expects them to do a terrible job and and he said it's because then he's not
00:29:32.760 disappointed and that way advice and he said he said i expect them to do an awful job and
00:29:38.680 if they do a great job then i'm pleasantly surprised i'm happy and this is a guy
00:29:47.160 yeah and so i would apply the same thing with especially my gender i mean come on we don't
00:29:52.280 mean anything uh like come on like have you seen us like so if i if i see a conversion from an ex
00:30:00.520 ho i already know that you were you were able to do the only fans i already know you're very good
00:30:06.840 at lying especially to men i know you're good at manipulating men so why wouldn't my default be i
00:30:12.040 don't believe you and then in like 20 years um may if you're still around which they're usually not
00:30:17.960 then i'll believe you maybe the problem the problem is you just contradicted yourself with
00:30:23.240 the thing you just said about your father so let me ask you a question okay how can i how can a
00:30:27.560 whore at what point because you remember what you said about your father i expect the worst but if
00:30:32.680 they prove otherwise and do a good job then i believe them my question is what criteria does
00:30:37.880 a whore have to meet for you to think it's a good job in real or is there no criteria for them to
00:30:43.000 hit and you automatically make it a bad job i would i would yeah yeah i got you so it would
00:30:47.800 have to be their actions over the time um and time i would say would have to be 10 20 years
00:30:53.400 the longer they hoard the more time i'd have to see it um the other challenge you're gonna get
00:30:58.120 is nowadays you can just live a double life in another city um i would i would have a hard time
00:31:03.720 believing in x only fans girl um i would have to i would have to see modest clothes from her
00:31:10.200 like um your your friend the the like charise one remember i forgot her name but i see her on
00:31:17.000 twitter all the time and before she was like on this god stuff and now she's 304 in it on the
00:31:21.880 timeline you know what i mean it's just like yeah yeah it's like these women it's like one day so
00:31:27.400 i'd rather not be disappointed and just be like do you know what you got this is terrible this is
00:31:33.640 wait but i mean specific so okay okay okay i'll tell you let's say i talked about this already
00:31:41.320 okay go ahead okay okay i said she has to be vetted and married to a man of the church
00:31:49.880 as in like she has to meet a church going man and that man has to bring her into the church
00:31:57.020 through marriage right she has to have that man's children and have avoided that behavior for 10 to
00:32:06.820 15 years okay wait so i just want to get this straight so your criteria is she has a married
00:32:13.540 man of god and has to have children with that man of god i'm not against that criteria if
00:32:18.700 somebody was a whore for a very long time yeah we need we need some fruit marrying a man of god
00:32:24.720 and having children with that man beautiful i'm with you here yeah but then that second half of
00:32:30.800 what you're saying is what don't make sense right no whoring for 10 to 15 years at least okay just
00:32:36.280 i got a question though let's say right this happens so when that happens though that's not
00:32:43.680 enough for you even after that she has to start it's a start but even a start is marrying a man
00:32:50.700 of god and uh having kids a start to you is not dating a man of god starting to dress more modest
00:32:56.720 starting to starting to show fruit because there's a lot of things that can be considered fruit
00:33:00.900 but even after she marries a man of god and have children with this man of god she still have to
00:33:06.640 quote-unquote not whore out for 10 to 15 years why not five years because the average marriage
00:33:13.640 lasts six to seven years so she has to stay married to that man longer than the average
00:33:19.120 marriage i would want to say i would i would actually depend i said 10 yeah i would i would
00:33:24.860 actually say um the youngest kids gotta hit like 10 to 15. i would even maybe put 20 years because
00:33:32.600 um i know once they hit the 20-year mark they don't usually divorce so yeah for me that's that's
00:33:38.200 what it would take why okay but based on statistics and based on what y'all saying
00:33:42.920 that seven-year mark should be when everything is like solidified no i would need longer yeah okay
00:33:49.320 so so that's so what's it that's not based on data or anything right here we're talking about
00:33:52.920 feelings my next question though is during that time when this person is in the process of quote
00:33:58.920 unquote, proving herself to be different than what she was. My question is, will you continue
00:34:05.320 to call her a whore during the process? Or will you back up and watch and see first before you
00:34:12.040 resume calling her a whore? Yeah. So what I would like to see, it depends how the church treats her
00:34:17.060 because nowadays they just hand her a microphone and let her start preaching. So I would prefer
00:34:22.560 that she sits in the back of the church, draws no attention to herself at all. If she draws any
00:34:28.700 attention to herself get out of here we don't need any attention on you you've had enough attention
00:34:34.000 for if you had an only fans you have an attention addiction problem so i want you in the back of
00:34:39.300 the church i want you shutting up one argument you're out what like if you wear one promiscuous
00:34:45.580 thing to church gone you can't come back like i i actually want there to be standards in the church
00:34:51.740 and them to enforce them and kick her out if she doesn't stay if she doesn't follow them
00:34:56.620 Well, that's biblical.
00:34:58.840 You have a 10-year probationary period.
00:35:01.900 Wait, wait, but my question is not answered, though.
00:35:04.220 So during this probationary period that y'all are speaking of, will you continue, if you talk about this woman, will she still be called a whore?
00:35:13.200 Yeah.
00:35:13.560 Or is there a wait-
00:35:14.980 No, because once you're a whore, you're always a whore.
00:35:18.760 So, I mean, if anything, that's on her to not be offended.
00:35:24.560 Like, that's on her.
00:35:25.520 like if she gets offended that's your own fault it's not about her being offended about the person
00:35:31.440 that's doing this that's unrighteous that's unrighteous well i would just say that would
00:35:35.520 be a fact like you're a just like i'm actively doing something if i used to be a thief
00:35:43.040 and i stopped stealing i'm no longer a thief you can't continue to call me no i would still say
00:35:47.440 you're a thief you just stop stealing okay that's just that's just that's just i mean no disrespect
00:35:52.960 that is a rash that's totally rational like um i don't i don't think um i don't think jordan
00:35:58.240 belford isn't a thief anymore he's still a thief i wouldn't want him near any of my family's money
00:36:03.600 oh hell no i would i wouldn't really want around me go ahead but he just he just stopped robbing
00:36:09.040 people but i i think it's more because you know he he can't do it anymore um drug addicts have to
00:36:16.720 except the fact that once again this is feelings drug addicts per definition of the word they're
00:36:22.640 not a thief anymore just like an nba player if they retire people don't say they're an nba player
00:36:27.720 they say they used to be nba player they're ex-nba player they retired nba player nobody says they're
00:36:32.540 still an nba player because that sounds retarded no most people would call michael jordan an nba
00:36:37.880 player they do just say he retired they would just say he retired look up any article about
00:36:41.940 michael jordan in the last year is going to say ex-nba player or or or or you to be a player
00:36:47.300 they're going to call him bryson player okay if if a guy touches kids gets convicted and gets out
00:36:54.880 and isn't touching kids anymore is he still a uh you know uh offender yes or no no he used he used
00:37:01.760 to be a pato but he shouldn't get that opportunity i mean they saw a guy where's this energy for the
00:37:07.280 horse. That's what I'm saying. So, so, so I want everybody to get, I don't, I don't want anybody
00:37:14.680 to be confused right now. A harlot can repent. Somebody that committed adultery. I believe what
00:37:19.400 the Bible believes. Anybody that says the Bible should be pit to death. Don't ever get me confused.
00:37:23.860 I support them getting pit to death. So if two people commit, you can ask Shekinah this all the
00:37:28.320 time. She roll her eyes. When I hear about somebody cheating on their wife or cheating on
00:37:32.260 their husband, I'll say, we need to go back to the Bible days. But a regular harlot is different
00:37:37.020 somebody to cheat on your wife and that's not called for death in the bible all it says all
00:37:41.820 it says for this definition of a horror is a person who is sexually promiscuous or a person
00:37:46.700 who engages in a sex act for money and so i would take number two a person who is sexually promiscuous
00:37:53.500 i would say they're still sexually promiscuous they just stopped whoring but they're still that
00:37:57.900 person no and here's how no no because here's how it would go in the church the definition
00:38:10.620 i just say one thing you don't understand horrors are addicted to attention that they have to get
00:38:18.220 that kind of like nala nala went right to preaching because she needs to to to get that dopamine hit
00:38:25.740 by proselytizing she's making up for what she's not getting on only fans but by trying to preach
00:38:31.660 and get addition that way so you you would have to keep these women away from that if if a whore
00:38:38.700 go goes into the church no one actively call her a whore out of nowhere but she would show
00:38:45.740 a tendency where she wouldn't be able to stay in her place she if she move out of her place
00:38:50.060 start trying to preach and proselytize just like nala then you say stop talking
00:38:56.860 you don't know anything so you have a long way to go that's how it would go
00:39:00.860 i partially agree unless they show that they're not changing then you can go back and call them
00:39:07.100 a whore this is the difference though if i'm not mistaken i mean i do agree that i do not like
00:39:12.380 when people just become christians it could be anybody really i don't even like jelly roll talk
00:39:16.380 about christ you need to shut his mouth and open the bible but including with nala you shouldn't
00:39:21.100 be pushed to the forefront in interviews and such when you were a babe in christ just like russell
00:39:27.020 brand don't stop pitting these people in a position to talk as if they some authority on
00:39:32.300 christ but if i'm not mistaken nayla's about to get married isn't she she got married over zoom
00:39:38.140 but where are the kids because oh she she's married okay so we talking through here what's
00:39:43.740 next when are y'all going to stop calling her a whore um but she still dresses like a whore
00:39:49.580 and when she stops talking so much yeah and trying to preach okay so like okay i saw her
00:39:55.740 me and my wife saw her id and you know she's new some stuff she wears like okay you need to work on
00:40:01.580 this but it's way better than what she used stress like can we all admit on that oh my god you guys
00:40:06.940 have no standards you just let everybody in but even the fact that you're like but even the fact
00:40:15.340 you're white knighting so hard for her it's like this is what yeah you're saying for using y'all
00:40:20.780 criteria and seeing can y'all can y'all stay consistent with y'all criteria i'm not white
00:40:24.460 knighting okay y'all just dislike something you have a one-size-fits-all view which means at some
00:40:28.060 point not you'll be irrational i won't not really i want you to stop dressing like a
00:40:31.980 whore and she didn't she still does it she still does it well what about the fact that she's
00:40:40.460 she's accepting all these roles and all these christian groups as a christian leader of a
00:40:45.980 woman and she's she's trying to there's no such thing as a woman christian leader of anything so
00:40:51.180 she's doing that she needs to stop that's why you call her a whore in response say look whore
00:40:57.100 no that's talking no you don't call somebody for for actually they have a leader role where they
00:41:04.060 don't no but even proselytizing all that stuff i told you nala is trading in the attention from
00:41:11.900 only fans to the attention that she's getting as being a christian now she's literally she
00:41:18.700 she has a new addiction i have a question for you uh-huh if she has kids because according
00:41:25.260 to your criteria because remember i asked both of you for your criteria so according to your
00:41:29.500 criteria she made step one so my question is when she passes step two and hopefully she start
00:41:35.820 dressing more modestly my question is at what point like do you start calling our horses seven
00:41:42.860 years or no i i don't well and i don't believe her because she's her actions still don't match
00:41:49.980 right now i think it's easy to dress modestly when you're old and ugly so i kind of like to
00:41:55.260 see what you do when you're young and hot you know and she's still young and hot and she's
00:41:59.500 still dressing like a whore so i'd say like year one not going so well for her um yeah she got
00:42:05.420 married but where's the kids right i mean you know her only fans was still on for the first what
00:42:12.940 nine ten months yeah she became a christian yeah so what i believe do i believe her because she
00:42:20.940 said she because she said she would say stay with a guy for life uh not really so i i would need
00:42:27.740 more than that so what what if in the next year she starts dressing completely modest as she should
00:42:33.180 dress like a horse is saying so let's say let's say start dressing completely modest
00:42:37.500 and she announces she's pregnant at what point are you like maybe I possibly could have been
00:42:43.960 robbed I don't know at what point 15 years I'll still yeah I will still I'll still think she'll
00:42:50.860 go back because again most of her life she's had harlot behavior she's done interviews and so
00:42:56.820 she had done it since she was as young as 13 14 years old like she was um not the OF but like she
00:43:03.500 was you know talked about being a kid sneaking out let's say 15 she started she's 26 that's 11
00:43:09.320 years so 11 years of a behavior I'm gonna need to see you stop for like 15 and I wouldn't even
00:43:15.980 count this year because all you did was get married anybody can take a vow right that's not
00:43:21.320 a hard thing to do what's difficult is to you know go out of the limelight not dress like you know
00:43:26.900 when you have a good body not showing it off it's like when fat people don't show off their bodies
00:43:31.160 i don't really care like okay you know and then also she she's already gotten a taste of the of
00:43:39.240 money the lifestyle is she gonna have to resist going back to that or finding or doing some type
00:43:46.680 of that for 10 to 15 years at least because it's always the desire for her to do that because
00:43:53.080 she could not do of for three four years let's see how she does living like a normal person on
00:43:58.840 On a regular income
00:43:59.800 I understand what I'm saying
00:44:00.540 No I don't
00:44:01.980 I'm going to be honest with you
00:44:03.000 And I'm going to be honest
00:44:04.640 And I won't tell you
00:44:05.200 Let me finish
00:44:05.680 Of course you know I love Pearl
00:44:07.320 But I got to be honest with y'all
00:44:09.880 I think y'all are no different
00:44:11.100 I'm going to tell you why I say this
00:44:12.180 Because in week
00:44:13.200 Listen I'm going to keep
00:44:14.500 I got to be honest with y'all
00:44:15.800 Based on the criteria y'all hit
00:44:17.840 And the more I question both of y'all
00:44:19.520 The more everything keeps extended
00:44:21.320 And keeps stretching
00:44:22.140 What I honestly believe
00:44:23.720 Is y'all just feel a certain way
00:44:26.160 It's about feelings
00:44:26.860 And I think that there is no
00:44:28.760 criteria for somebody to hit you're always going to find a reason at some point and i'm not saying
00:44:33.560 you're 100 wrong i genuinely believe in most cases these people are lying the overwhelming
00:44:38.680 majority of cases i think they're lying but based on i ask questions for a reason and i think y'all
00:44:45.000 i don't think y'all things are based on logic or rationale i think it's based i feel this way
00:44:49.720 about women and women period point blank and i'm going to find whichever way i need to make sure
00:44:55.320 that I keep feeling this way as a one-size-fits-all thing.
00:44:58.100 I think women are irrational.
00:45:00.100 I think women take no responsibility
00:45:02.320 or accountability for the things they do.
00:45:04.480 But at the same time,
00:45:05.960 there's a moment where you got to be honest with yourself
00:45:09.360 and be objective rather than just have a one-size-fits-all view.
00:45:12.500 Well, I'm going to say my position.
00:45:14.300 I don't think that OnlyFans, models, and whores
00:45:17.560 should ever be let into the church.
00:45:19.700 Once you do that, it's done for you.
00:45:21.980 So this is literally a thought exercise
00:45:25.160 for for me i have a flat there are things that people can do where they shouldn't be accepted
00:45:31.120 anywhere and they have to suffer the consequences for the rest of their lives and only fans and
00:45:35.040 whoring is one of those so this is literally a thought exercise for for me i don't think that
00:45:39.540 any of you christians should let any of these women near your church where you guys have followed
00:45:45.520 the rules you've done what you can you help your community and you're going to let these whores in
00:45:50.340 i don't think you should at all but the problem is your position the problem is it's just like
00:45:56.580 when i hear whores talk about like you shouldn't judge it's like i think you should judge well
00:46:01.780 wait wait listen what i'm saying no listen i feel the same way when i hear advice from people like
00:46:06.180 you it's like why are you giving advice because your standards aren't based on the bible your
00:46:09.860 standard is based on a personal worldview you have which means you are your own god so what's
00:46:14.980 the difference between you giving an opinion of what the church should do then only fans who are
00:46:20.260 saying women that dress and models should be allowed in the church there is no difference
00:46:24.340 because what y'all saying is not based on the bible well i would say that at least in doug's
00:46:27.940 house he runs it but the church guys let women manipulate them and hand over power to women in
00:46:33.620 the church and that's true 90 of churches so at least an average guy he's the king of his own
00:46:38.740 castle he's the head of his house well i'm gonna be honest in most churches i'm 100 agreement i
00:46:44.420 i mean i literally spend nine percent of my music calling out of church uh they have women pastors
00:46:49.700 they let gay couples they letting women dress like whores in there all that's demonic
00:46:55.220 but see the the issue though here is y'all say i the king i don't even believe it
00:47:00.100 i don't believe how the people that have these views about about women i believe they'll fold
00:47:05.460 very quickly because me i'm actually i'm married and my wife right beside me she submits to me and
00:47:10.980 i'm the king of my household and i can say that no offense will happen because that because that's
00:47:15.140 biblical and since my wife is a biblical woman she's gonna stand on that business your wife is
00:47:19.060 awesome i love your wife she makes very good cookies yeah she's great she is great i've seen
00:47:24.580 you talk about your wife before she she sounds amazing man she sounds awesome but she's amazing
00:47:30.420 because she follows her her core values is the bible so this is and this is and this is
00:47:38.980 my point but the core value the feel not these conservatives i came to be christian i don't
00:47:47.220 submit to my husband husband no them women are heathens i'm talking about real biblical women
00:47:53.220 they already know to submit to their husband to their husbands so if we keep things biblical we
00:47:58.500 wouldn't be in half of these situations anyway i yeah i totally agree with you but my point is
00:48:03.060 you're letting in women that aren't biblical and and and it would be one thing if their actions
00:48:08.260 matched but it's like i don't really care if you say you repented if i'm looking at your instagram
00:48:14.020 and your butt's still out or if you're you're posting a tick tock and flashing the camera and
00:48:18.900 she did that and then nobody calls her out and it's just an excuse it's like oh she's learning
00:48:23.940 i'm like really you're 26 you can't figure out how to be modest if that's what if that's what
00:48:30.420 you say you want right like i just got to look at their actions and most of them i don't see a change
00:48:36.260 so it's just my opinion you do you do you do just buy actions i don't let i don't let you don't see
00:48:43.460 people in my fold doing stuff like that that's like with me i'm saying that i'm asking about
00:48:48.740 the logical consistency over the course of time if somebody's still doing that that is wrong
00:48:52.980 i'm saying at what point is if they do start progressing and stop doing that and get married
00:48:58.900 and have kids then at what point are we helping them out 15 years just that's crazy work that's
00:49:04.180 just saying i don't want to give them back no i don't think it's our job to help like you're you're
00:49:09.860 like i can't make her not sin that's her job that's her job i i can't like i can't i can't
00:49:16.740 put a gun to her head and say nala stop dressing like a whore you know no let's not that's you
00:49:22.820 know that's on her yeah that has nothing to do with us i never said that i'm talking about the
00:49:29.060 criteria you give it you're the one giving the criteria you're the one commenting on whoever
00:49:35.620 woman is your worldview even in your quote-unquote claim criteria because what it seems like is i'm
00:49:41.700 giving criteria the same objective but then when there's a line of questioning about the criteria
00:49:46.180 everything starts extending and it's like even then or i don't know even then you know i'm saying
00:49:51.060 so that means your criteria isn't real that means there is no criteria no i think you're
00:49:55.540 just saying a lot of words but you're not saying anything like just no i said something clear you
00:50:03.220 neither one of you have responses to it that's why you can't respond to it not i clearly say
00:50:06.740 your criteria doesn't make sense but i proved it by asking y'all a lot of questioning every time i
00:50:11.380 asked a lot of questions and y'all kept my criteria makes perfect sense i want her to
00:50:16.100 not do the behavior for longer than she did it at least i think that's the bare minimum
00:50:21.380 she did it for 11 years 11 plus years you don't do it isn't that fair i i think that's perfectly
00:50:28.020 fair no of course not no i thought that no no i'm not i'm saying it just makes no sense because his
00:50:34.180 criteria was married children and then he said well statistically is that the seven-year mark
00:50:39.700 but i don't really care about that it has to be even even so even so after that so that means even
00:50:44.740 as he's giving his criteria once these these points are met it doesn't mean anything to him
00:50:49.140 until the end point is there well there is no progression no i'm saying we can maybe go back
00:50:53.940 and forth is it seven years is it 10 years is it 15 but i need longer than like a 90-day trial
00:50:59.540 bryson and that's what you guys are get like you guys expect me to believe these people in a year
00:51:03.620 who are you guys because obviously you're not listening to anything i'm saying i'll tell you
00:51:07.300 you just like the way you talk about you just no i an example i can use is during this conversation
00:51:12.860 you were defending nala's instagram no i didn't you're lying you name it name the quote name the
00:51:18.740 quote i defend her instagram right now you said my wife was looking at her instagram and it's
00:51:22.740 better than it used to be and i'm like is that defending her is that a fact is that definitely
00:51:27.000 that's definitely that's definitely defending her that's definitely it's giving it to me let me ask
00:51:33.660 the mail in the room did i still say it's wrong yes or no you know what i'm not quite i'm not
00:51:39.220 quite sure what you're saying bro here's the thing about it here's the thing about it you're
00:51:48.160 you're proving the point like i said for little tay she should make 20 million dollars on only
00:51:54.260 fans come knocking on bryson's door and say hey hey hey bryson i've cleaned up my instagram
00:52:00.580 You know, I'm good to go
00:52:03.520 And you would be like, okay, sure
00:52:05.120 Come on in
00:52:06.400 So Lil Tay should
00:52:08.320 You answer my question
00:52:09.320 Lil Tay should start OnlyFans right now
00:52:11.760 Make her money, because why not
00:52:13.580 I know you want to deflect
00:52:15.640 I know you want to deflect
00:52:16.860 Just probably thinks that I defended her Instagram
00:52:19.200 My question is, did I still say it's wrong?
00:52:22.040 Did I say that it's improving
00:52:23.420 But it's still wrong? Did I say that yes or no?
00:52:26.040 But why even have the improving?
00:52:28.140 Like, why do you need that?
00:52:29.180 like oh you're because it shows because it shows progress because biblically people have to go to
00:52:33.840 a stage of progression i'm not saying she should be allowed i'm not saying she should go through
00:52:38.340 10 to 15 years of progression that's what we're saying but you're talking trash about
00:52:41.940 the timeline 10 15 years of progression minimum so so this was funny right just probably things
00:52:48.920 made a claim i debunked her claim and asked you to confirm it you were scared to confirm it because
00:52:52.680 you know you're not making sense and then even when even when they're probably things we thought
00:52:55.740 about it and realized she was wrong. She said, well, why even bring up the improvement? Never
00:52:59.600 was there an act of accountability. No, I think you're just kind of playing semantics. I like
00:53:05.000 you, Bryson, but this is kind of semantics. Semantics? You're the one making the claim.
00:53:09.540 You said I defended something. I didn't say I defended something. It's not semantics if you
00:53:13.120 make the claim, but then when I check you... The church now is the last stop on the horror train
00:53:19.480 And Bryson's taking the tickets
00:53:22.060 To the people
00:53:23.820 Getting off the train
00:53:24.740 I literally called out stuff
00:53:26.720 More than both of you combined
00:53:28.680 Literally this is what
00:53:30.700 I'm known for
00:53:31.600 Y'all just don't like that
00:53:32.840 I'm coming to talk
00:53:33.440 From an objective perspective
00:53:34.660 And then
00:53:35.560 But this just showed me something
00:53:37.680 One thing y'all are correct about
00:53:39.080 And just probably things the same way
00:53:41.000 Is women do not take accountability
00:53:42.860 I agree with that
00:53:44.020 100%
00:53:44.460 Alright
00:53:45.140 Alright well thanks for calling in Bryson
00:53:47.560 Call in any time alright
00:53:48.920 yes sir all right see ya all right uh steve m says the next caller um kevin samuels covers
00:53:57.080 this topic on his video christian feminism and it's a problem most guys are leaving the church
00:54:02.440 because no man wants to wife up jezebel uh the attorney says christ ain't paying no bills
00:54:11.320 i didn't think that was going to turn into a debate to be honest
00:54:14.680 i didn't realize that that was my fault i got you i got on here and had to ask some
00:54:19.000 certain questions because remember pro we talked about if a woman turned 18 and said look you know
00:54:25.320 i want a career in media i want to make some money right start an of why not this is i mean
00:54:32.440 he kind of proved our point to be honest he didn't realize i don't know if he didn't realize it or
00:54:37.400 what but i'm like you're just proving that they should actually be the only fans think about this
00:54:43.560 Yes. Lil Tay, she's already made a million dollars. She probably hasn't even done anything
00:54:50.500 adult related yet. But if she were to go full fledged Nala, she could be worth 15 to 20 million
00:54:58.180 dollars by the time she's 26. And then she could say, hey, trad cons, I've repented and still have
00:55:05.460 a successful media career and still find some church sip to marry her and have kids with.
00:55:13.560 the plan is laid out it's already there am i wrong no i don't know why you wouldn't do it
00:55:18.560 i mean like from a logical point of view so sorry i just couldn't believe i was like how is it not
00:55:31.120 defending her if you're saying her instagram's better like that i know she shouldn't have an
00:55:36.020 instagram at all is she serious i know i know but i was like i don't want to go back and forth he's
00:55:40.380 about like is it a fact is it better i'm like i guess technically but i don't like why would you
00:55:45.340 even like i was gonna say that's the equivalent of a pedo and then say go he does it less now i'm
00:55:51.260 like uh like you know that's that's how i would do it and i like your position where you say
00:55:59.100 the i'm supposed to just believe a that's hard for 10 15 years and she says she's christian now
00:56:06.060 yeah i don't like we don't have to believe it i don't have to the whole concept of repenting and
00:56:13.020 that's why i'm not religious i try to be the best person i can be because i believe and be a good
00:56:20.540 person yeah i don't have to repent because i've never done anything crazy like you open up of of
00:56:27.420 and make freaking 15 million dollars i've never done it guys women shouldn't do that period
00:56:34.220 if we want to give all this credit to women who've done it and and have changed all of a sudden you
00:56:39.180 want the same credit in the church of a woman repenting from of as a woman who's never done
00:56:45.180 it in the first place that doesn't rock with me at all no way nope well i guess this is a good
00:56:50.780 segue into i did not i did not think that was going to be a full-fledged debate my bad
00:56:58.780 but that's my fault i i i started i started asking questions to take it down that way so i'm hoping
00:57:04.700 hoping bryson doesn't take it the wrong way no he won't he's a good guy he he's he is he's cool no
00:57:09.660 he's not like that like he he's not he's not the crash out type and if he does he he'll just come
00:57:16.220 back on like he'll and yeah go ahead sorry for just barging in i i gotta get on the line about
00:57:25.340 this lil tay thing because i remember we were talking about hey before if a woman is young
00:57:30.860 and she wants a career in media and she wants to make real money why not yeah you take out morals
00:57:39.820 apparently you can get morals later yeah
00:57:47.740 guys put a one in the chat if you think that lil tay should do an of and then
00:57:51.900 then repent later or two if she should do it at all in fact can we put a poll in the chat it's
00:57:58.520 such a bs because they don't even tell her to pay the money back like it's such bs so she gets five
00:58:04.380 million dollars and i get nothing because i did like do you know what i can make on only fans
00:58:09.080 and i have to have morals it's like bullshit yeah i gotta i gotta stream every day i could
00:58:17.100 just sold pictures in my butthole i'm just kidding i like being here guys i prefer this
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00:59:46.200 All right, we're going to, so guys, we're going to react to some,
00:59:48.460 I just thought we would, you know, listen to more women whining
00:59:52.500 about not having to work and staying home with kids.
00:59:58.220 We complain about everything, my God.
01:00:01.240 Welcome back, welcome back.
01:00:02.640 We're getting into the TradWife Transweeping Social Media,
01:00:06.160 and it's reignited an age-old conversation about what it means
01:00:08.800 to be a good wife. We just spoke with two trad wives and a trad wife in training. And our next
01:00:14.080 guests are being candid about how a trad wife failed them. Jenny Gage is revealing how living
01:00:19.960 for two decades inside a Mormon marriage as a trad wife left her feeling out of control and
01:00:25.000 penniless. Anitia Templeton says her 10 years as a trad wife were miserable and unfulfilling. And
01:00:31.440 now both women are speaking out to as they want other young women, especially to avoid similar
01:00:37.060 situations take a look being a trad wife means returning to traditional goals traditional
01:00:45.300 times traditional life traditional gender roles the man is the breadwinner oh my gosh she looks
01:00:52.100 crazy she looks insane and so your husband has authority over you whether or not i was rich or
01:01:00.740 poured literally depended on literally depended on how pretty I was and how good I was at doing
01:01:07.980 those things that men wanted women to do from the kitchen to the bedroom so exactly why you notice
01:01:14.540 you never see trad wives in their 40s advocating for that life you can discredit this by calling
01:01:20.700 me whatever you want bitter jealous okay so what happens is women and men are cutting a deal men
01:01:28.360 want sex. They want women's youth. They want their fertility. Um, and they want her to be hot.
01:01:36.840 Okay. I know there's personality, whatever, but let's, let's just say women want men's genetic
01:01:42.680 material and resources. And what happens is women, there are women that cut deals young,
01:01:49.740 right? So they, they trade in their youth and they trade in their fertility and they cut a deal with
01:01:54.940 a guy young women that cut that made a bad deal so they cut a deal with a guy that they realized
01:02:01.660 wasn't alpha i hate using that word but i got to or he wasn't you know the guy she wanted or maybe
01:02:07.900 she saw her friends get a better guy or you know it's poor men we don't even treat you guys like
01:02:13.820 people i'm so sorry it's just you know i'm just i'm telling you how it is in girl world women
01:02:19.900 ultimately want to do whatever they want and they want to have sex with the hot guy. So by doing the
01:02:25.920 traditional thing, women are giving up doing whatever they want and in exchange, they want
01:02:31.780 the hot guy. That's what they're hoping to get out of it. Unfortunately, that's not really the
01:02:37.980 archetype in the tradition. Like I hate to say this, but the traditional guy, people always say
01:02:45.220 they look, get it. And I'm, I know it's partially a shaming tactic, but it's also because a lot of
01:02:49.980 them aren't taught frame in the church is, uh, we kind of saw because it's just like women rule.
01:02:56.080 We kind of, you know, saw by the earlier conversation. Um, not all, not all, some of
01:03:01.020 the guys are good looking and masculine, but usually, you know, for, you know how it is in
01:03:05.660 any social group, there's a few women that win, there's some that lose. So maybe she depicts a
01:03:10.760 guy she thinks is going to be a winner and not a winner and there's nothing women hate more than
01:03:16.060 spending their youth and their fertility on a guy that does and she doesn't get what she wants out
01:03:22.320 of it and women that don't get what they want out of the interaction they'll make you pay either
01:03:26.780 through reputation destruction um you'll see diddy like cassie and diddy she gave him her best years
01:03:33.600 um and in exchange i don't know what the hell she wanted but maybe she thought she'd be a bigger
01:03:37.780 celebrity. Um, she'd get commitment out of him long-term. I don't know, but, um, she didn't get
01:03:45.620 what she wanted. Now she's making him pay monetarily. And so these women, they're just bad
01:03:49.740 business women, right? And if you want to say it that way, I know you guys believe in love,
01:03:54.800 but we don't believe in love. We're in business. So, um, this, these are women that took bad deals
01:04:01.900 like Lauren Southern's another one. She really could have, she could have won and she could
01:04:06.440 one with someone pretty attractive. Um, and by the way, when I say the hot guys, hot guys is not
01:04:12.100 necessarily being just good looking. It's an attitude, right? It's, um, I mean, we all know
01:04:17.180 that fat guy that always has hot women. Uh, some guys just have that, you know, that swagger,
01:04:22.500 you know, we, that we love. Um, so these are women bitching because they didn't get a good
01:04:29.940 end of the bargain even and by the way we're not logical so i some of these they might talk and you
01:04:36.740 might think she had a pretty good deal that's coming from a male point of view women it's like
01:04:40.920 am i having fun um is he hot and exciting and did i get the genetic material and the resources
01:04:51.960 that's like female great but men are so much more logical that men it's so interesting whenever you
01:04:57.640 hear men talking about what like that that guy's a better guy they always do it from the male lens
01:05:03.240 and it's pretty much always money and productivity but women don't care about that that's why we
01:05:07.640 sleep with criminals this is just one woman with some experience i hope that you'll remember a man
01:05:15.240 is not a plan and never was your finances should not depend on somebody being in love with you
01:05:21.960 that's just not a secure bet the marriage is over and you're staying for the kids and all that's
01:05:26.280 doing is setting a horrible example for them so i am that example for you you you can leave you can
01:05:31.240 make it and you can be way happier than you are right now wow please welcome anicia templeton
01:05:36.840 here in our studio jenny gage is in her home in tucson arizona ladies thank you both for joining
01:05:42.200 us so our first half of our show were the young women who are now entrenched and whether you call
01:05:46.600 it a homemaker or a um trad wife you hit something on the head i i feel and you see in that video
01:05:54.600 you said you don't see women in their 40s advocating this lifestyle we know that there
01:05:58.120 are obviously but you were making the point of maybe some of the younger women doing this don't
01:06:04.280 understand the long-term damage what you see as damage oh absolutely of course it's fun to make
01:06:10.760 paper and crayons and do crafts with your kids of course but life comes eventually this is if that's
01:06:17.720 not sustainable your kids are going to go to school life is going to continue and then what
01:06:21.560 are you going to do when you build your whole life around toddlers and babies what what where does
01:06:26.600 your life go from there you i don't know productive people will always find something to do so usually
01:06:31.640 these are just lazy women they're like what do you mean you don't have anything to do there's
01:06:35.800 always something to do like i'm looking around this room it's a mess it's my own fault i could
01:06:42.280 sort equipment i could like i'm trying to learn the splits right now like there's always something
01:06:48.600 to do you know what i mean were in a trad wife lifestyle for 10 years you said you felt like
01:06:53.560 sitting prey yes what does that mean like i procreated with somebody that wasn't worth what i
01:07:00.840 spent like a pet you know how you have like a pet hamster a pet gerbil you can't let them out because
01:07:07.240 if they run across the floor they could get hurt you know they're so tender and fragile but they're
01:07:11.880 also at such risk they're they're so fragile they're so they need you for everything you have
01:07:16.760 have to feed them what you know you have to do everything and that's exactly
01:07:19.040 how you are as a tribe wife you don't have your own income you don't even have
01:07:22.580 your own thoughts you can't you know it's it's his choices is what's what are
01:07:25.880 his favorite foods you can cook his favorite dinner what are they and so you
01:07:29.660 don't even know what foods you like anymore after 10 years I couldn't even
01:07:33.860 pick out toothpaste at the grocery store I would go and think oh well he liked
01:07:37.460 this one which one should I get it you know you lose that ability to make
01:07:40.520 decisions Jenny you have photos of when you were married you say that you don't
01:07:45.320 recognize yourself in those photos there was always a pressure to look perfect and pretty
01:07:50.380 for your husband and when the marriage ended what on earth she used to be hot oh my god she hit the
01:07:57.340 wall so hard i see why she's pissed i see why she's pissed oh my god damn she's hotter than i
01:08:07.240 ever was oh my you know this is a good thing about being a mid right and maybe you guys don't think
01:08:13.400 i think she's quite pretty like a seven i'd put her at a seven um but that's the thing when you're
01:08:20.060 mid what opportunity did you really miss do you know what i mean like
01:08:25.980 you know what it's not like you missed but if you look like that yeah she's gonna be pissed
01:08:35.700 and now she comes out looking like that yeah she's cooked
01:08:38.980 and when the marriage ended you were without an income you were penniless you had to i think at
01:08:47.360 one point even oh no this is the other one oh my gosh but yeah she's fat now car because you left
01:08:53.640 with nothing yeah and i i feel sometimes like i'm the grinch who stole christmas because
01:08:59.260 this child by flight looks amazing who is paying for this house this is a nice looking house
01:09:04.960 and it's probably her ex-husband 24 years yeah ex-husband 24 years i had all those benefits of
01:09:12.560 the amazing part of it being home with my kids and the sourdough bread and play dates and going
01:09:17.760 to the park with my children when they were young and all those things but 24 years into that my
01:09:23.600 trad wife life ended very roughly and within three days i couldn't pay for groceries at trader joe's
01:09:31.200 within a couple months i was sleeping in my car i couldn't afford to put gas in the car
01:09:37.240 i was asking friends literally i just had friends giving me twenty dollar bills and going to fund
01:09:41.720 for me so that i could just buy groceries and survive were you right jenny how did how did
01:09:47.740 this track okay but what do doug mpa can you look up put in the chat how much can you make as like
01:09:58.340 a housekeeper because if you were a trad wife or personal chef i don't know like aren't there
01:10:05.140 skills daycare worker my sister works at a daycare couldn't she do that these are i would think these
01:10:11.620 are transferable skills so why if you work as a house cleaner you can make uh 42 000 a year
01:10:20.980 that's not bad working at a daycare how much can you make at a daycare
01:10:31.460 and then the uh a daycare worker full-time so they make about 17 an hour but if you
01:10:41.060 own a daycare you can make about 50 to 60 000 a year okay yeah i'm like they just always say
01:10:48.820 they're left like high and dry but it seems like some of those skills would be transferable like
01:10:54.580 my brother's um wife she just went to she's an engineer full-time and she went to culinary
01:10:59.060 school for fun for like three months and here's the thing she's like oh i was left penniless and
01:11:05.220 i couldn't afford it was 24 years later your kids are out of the house like what yeah why didn't
01:11:13.220 you work you could get a job or even if even if you had to start over i mean you don't have kids
01:11:21.380 to feed you know get a job get an apartment move on with your life how many guys get kicked out
01:11:27.140 of their house if they're having to pay for their wife's attorney to divorce them what's that meme
01:11:33.060 where it says a lot of men's lives start right here and it's just a studio apartment with a
01:11:38.740 the mattress on the ground.
01:11:39.920 Yeah.
01:11:41.500 Men are happy to be in that environment,
01:11:44.420 but women, oh my God, I don't have anything left
01:11:47.320 and blah, blah, blah.
01:11:48.300 You see the difference in mindset?
01:11:51.740 Yeah.
01:11:53.060 No, nothing, I agree.
01:11:55.260 Mentality become a part of the decision you made
01:11:58.320 as a wife early on.
01:11:59.260 Were you raised in an environment
01:12:01.040 where these roles were clear in this way?
01:12:06.020 I have the two hashtags.
01:12:08.020 have ex-trad and ex-mormon so i was raised in a culture that's very traditionally you were raised
01:12:14.420 in a mormon now okay the reason religion tells women to get married young right is because
01:12:23.460 obviously if we don't do that society crumbles and destabilizes and it's terrible um if we become
01:12:30.580 horse but women's natural inclination is just to be complete 304s obviously so what happens is
01:12:39.200 these women they don't you know she was hot back in the day she didn't realize the buying power
01:12:45.080 she had especially in the modern marketplace she was like a 20 something year old mormon girl
01:12:49.540 you know she could have had decent buying power it basically she's not happy with what she bought
01:12:57.220 whatever husband she got I don't know what she for whatever reason is not happy with what she
01:13:03.120 bought she wishes she used her her youth on herself instead of on her family I'm not saying
01:13:09.420 that's right but I'm saying that's you know womanese for this family I was very devoutly
01:13:15.000 Mormon so I knew from the time I was like five years old when I wrote a little paper in literally
01:13:19.840 kindergarten saying that I wanted a brother and be an anchor man like my dad and then I was told
01:13:24.820 you're going to grow up and be a mom. I knew that at some point I was going to get married and have
01:13:30.560 babies. Also, if you guys could like the video, it'd be good to, I'd love to break 600 likes in
01:13:36.080 here. Stay home and cook and clean and decorate the house and all those things that I've seen my mom do.
01:13:41.340 That was really the only option I was offered in life. What made you decide, I saw your story in
01:13:46.420 an article, what made you decide to, I know you're not comfortable with saying anti-trad wife, but
01:13:52.920 What made you decide to ring the alarm from your perspective of the damage this type of gender role assignment, trad wife trend can cause?
01:14:03.980 I think that it's something that we're embarrassed to talk about as women.
01:14:08.940 And I know that when I was going through it, I was embarrassed to even tell my friends that I didn't have any money, that the alimony wasn't being paid, that child support wasn't being collected, that I didn't have.
01:14:19.240 I thought that I could go out and interview and get any job that I wanted to
01:14:22.340 because I had all of these domestic labor skills that I thought could translate into career.
01:14:26.760 Pearl, pause that real fast.
01:14:27.820 I just was...
01:14:28.680 I found this People article.
01:14:31.700 So this woman got married in 1995 and got divorced a year ago.
01:14:38.760 So she literally just got out here just now.
01:14:47.700 well she's doing her divorce um rebrand so how long do you think it's going to take it to realize
01:14:56.000 how rough these streets are out here she won't ever realize it you don't think so nope women
01:15:03.120 women no women would rather be prostitutes and homeless than be straddled down with a guy they
01:15:08.760 don't like women never regret leaving men ever they just the only reason they go back is to see
01:15:15.260 if they can get resources from you once women are done we're done and we're trained to be like that
01:15:20.520 because historically you were dead so we had to go bang the next guy what do you think about
01:15:27.040 tyrese's ex-wife remembers that she she tried to say that you know she realized that she messed up
01:15:32.700 and if she was around different women at the time if she would have got away from her mom and her
01:15:37.160 sisters she never would have left them and what do you think about that type of thing i don't believe
01:15:42.220 her i don't i think your actions you know because while she was saying that she was raking him
01:15:50.060 through the coals in divorce court and he's like crying because of all the alimony she's like come
01:15:54.460 on your actions would if you really wanted to reconcile you would you like if you really wanted
01:15:59.540 to reconcile you would go over there you would say i realized i was wrong i'm sorry for putting
01:16:04.240 you on alimony i'm gonna drop the court case you know her actions would match it but you're crying
01:16:09.180 on a podcast now you get the fuck out of here like you're crying you want to reconcile with
01:16:16.040 your ex-husband and instead of actually because men are so nice you know what i mean like imagine
01:16:21.240 if she was just really nice to him she said sorry and was really nice and tried to win him back for
01:16:26.480 like three years i'm not saying it would work she might have done too much damage but a lot of men
01:16:34.020 would fold a lot i mean they've never had a girl work for them ever you know um maybe not him
01:16:40.180 because he's famous but that's my opinion what do you think are you there yeah yeah yeah i think
01:16:51.460 everything you're saying is 100 correct you're right you got me yeah so it's like do you know
01:16:58.820 like why doesn't she try to reconcile you know you never know what an apology will do like if
01:17:03.460 If your actions match, go ahead.
01:17:05.500 At least she could do.
01:17:06.500 Because even Kevin Samuels on a couple of his shows said, look, drop the child support.
01:17:13.680 Go to the court and get rid of the child support as a gesture of goodwill.
01:17:18.460 And a lot of women, they wouldn't do it.
01:17:19.640 She could, yeah, Tyrese's wife, she could literally fly out to him, try to have a conversation, you know, drop the lawsuit.
01:17:28.280 At the minimum, drop the lawsuit.
01:17:30.780 Because she has two lawyers coming after him.
01:17:33.460 yeah you're right i agree with you 100 you got me yeah like if i i mean have you ever had a i don't
01:17:38.960 know if you've ever had a woman try to reconcile but your ego is gone if you try to do that
01:17:43.260 like it's like okay what do you need me to do like that's that's the type of time when you're
01:17:48.020 sorry and you really want to make something work that's the type of time you're on you're like
01:17:52.620 front door back door like front door back door whatever you want baby do you how many meals do
01:18:01.180 you want like it's on it's begging time what is what is alpha male strategy you say you better
01:18:10.320 you better get on your knees and start eating ass
01:18:13.640 he doesn't think that women an apology isn't enough but they start eating ass for a little
01:18:24.760 wow that's what they gotta do yeah yeah so when you start eating ass i'll believe you're sorry
01:18:41.000 okay let me play the rest i'm getting called back my first job was 11 in an hour and as i walked
01:18:46.920 through it i looked around and it's like i know that this other woman's going through this and
01:18:51.960 And my sister's going through this.
01:18:54.480 And I knew that there were other people, and we were just too embarrassed to say anything about it.
01:18:58.980 So one day, I honestly just decided to take me on the record.
01:19:01.500 I should point out that you've been sharing your story.
01:19:05.060 We did have to legally reach out to your husband.
01:19:08.000 He denies things that have been said on social media platforms.
01:19:11.460 He says he provided alimony payments, final settlement, and is currently up to date on his child support payments.
01:19:17.620 But separate from the finances of it, you, as you pointed out.
01:19:21.620 found an article with her story you want to go through it real fast or no uh sure yes it's
01:19:30.180 what do i always say about the um the female friendly version of the story pearl what's the
01:19:36.500 female friendly version of the story he was abusive and she was also the um like victim
01:19:42.580 like he was abusive and she's also the hero so she like overcame the abuse and go to the tab click
01:19:50.500 on that why a mom of five gave up wait hold on okay why a mom of five gave up her marriage to
01:20:01.620 start over at 44 now challenges viral trad wives everywhere a man is not a plan genie george says
01:20:07.780 your financial future and your children's financial stability should not be dependent on your husband
01:20:12.660 loving you um genie gage has built up a large social media following under the name of life
01:20:18.100 takes two because she feels like she's doing her life all over again okay let me see
01:20:22.100 she was pretty attractive back in the day i see why she's pissed
01:20:26.800 at 44 she says she opted out of a more traditional religious conservative world
01:20:33.100 she had built for her for herself as a wife and a mom of five and had to start over and now gauge
01:20:37.660 50 of tuscan arizona speaks speaks openly about her experience before and after stop stopping
01:20:43.900 being a self-described trad wife for 24 years i was under stress gage tells people only in hindsight
01:20:50.620 can i say that raising five babies under the age of 10 on my hair falling out for my anxiety but
01:20:57.020 on the outside it looked so good gage is outspoken against the traditional lifestyle that has become
01:21:02.060 increasingly popular and controversial on social media platforms featuring women in domestic
01:21:07.180 settings embracing the homemaker label right down to milling their own wheat for bread supporters
01:21:12.780 say trad wife content just expresses a particular set of conservative values and is not unlike so
01:21:19.120 many social media posts about cooking and parenting and many observers have noted some
01:21:24.100 popular influencers associated with the trend have been clear about how they keep an equal
01:21:27.900 partnership with their spouses regardless of how it looks um my kids were all beautiful oh wait
01:21:35.040 here's a little thing of her talking let's see can you imagine your mom's just i drove to the
01:21:41.780 grocery store i need to grab some milk and bread and a couple things flipped open the wait hold up
01:21:46.460 it's gonna go full screen can you imagine your mom's just like talking about your dad on social
01:21:52.660 media i know that does happen on facebook and stuff but i drove to the grocery store at this
01:21:59.020 video by saying that i'm not asking for money and i'm not asking for sympathy what i'm asking for
01:22:03.800 is if you are a young 14 16 21 year old girl listen up i drove to the grocery store i need
01:22:09.940 grab some milk and bread and a couple things flipped open the pink app on my phone and i've
01:22:14.580 been sitting in my car crying ever since because i never have enough money and why do i never have
01:22:23.620 enough translation because i spend too much if she's crying she's lying yeah because when i was
01:22:31.460 a 19 year old girl i fell in love my mormon faith told me that i was supposed to be a stay-at-home
01:22:37.540 mom i got married i started having babies i dropped out of college i never had a career my
01:22:42.340 only jobs that i ever had in life were a waitress at the olive garden and managing a pretzel maker
01:22:48.820 in a mall so my first couple years of marriage i decided that i wanted to be an entrepreneur so
01:22:53.540 i bought a windshield business i was 20. and my mormon stake president reminded me that women
01:23:00.340 weren't supposed to work so i quit my own business handed it over to my husband took my name off of
01:23:06.020 it i would work our family business throughout the next 24 years of my marriage but i never got
01:23:11.780 paid i didn't have a salary my name wasn't on it i literally worked for room and board that's it
01:23:19.540 i would eventually so translation um i took a a bad deal in hindsight right i'm not saying
01:23:29.460 just objectively like if you're doing you could argue that's not a favorable deal and i'm upset
01:23:37.980 and two i probably didn't do as good of a job as i thought
01:23:41.780 i probably am giving my husband probably did most of it also launch a custom home building company
01:23:50.300 with my uncle is the architect and my friends is the builder my designs my realtor but again because
01:23:59.080 my husband was the man and his name was on all of the projects his name was on
01:24:04.120 the business I remember one of the last custom homes that I built we sold it and
01:24:08.320 made about a two hundred and sixty thousand dollar profit that money all
01:24:12.520 went into his bank account I didn't even have a bank account I should have said
01:24:15.760 that in the beginning I never had a bank account it would give me a little
01:24:18.880 envelopes of cash to go grocery shopping anyway that house sells money goes in the
01:24:23.020 bank. I just asked if I could buy myself a piano with the money. I had worked on building
01:24:29.840 that house for two years. All of the money went into his bank account. Nothing was under
01:24:34.940 my name. I got a piano and I got a free house to live in and I got groceries. So I found
01:24:41.100 myself divorced at age 44 just five years ago and within just a few months I was living
01:24:45.140 in my car while he made about a quarter million dollars. He would eventually quit that job
01:24:50.260 so that he wouldn't have to pay alimony and child support.
01:24:52.220 He has only paid alimony one time ever in the five years since we've been divorced, once ever.
01:24:58.120 Right after my divorce, I remember being really confident about my ability to get a job,
01:25:02.040 so I put together a resume.
01:25:04.600 I remember one of the first interviews that I had was a management position for a windshield company,
01:25:10.000 similar to the one that we had run.
01:25:11.760 And the man actually laughing as he was interviewing me, like he was really sympathetic.
01:25:17.900 He wasn't being interviewed.
01:25:18.600 You weren't interviewing well, and so you're going to just blame it on that.
01:25:22.640 But he was laughing, and he's like, so let me get this straight.
01:25:28.420 You helped manage your family windshield business with your husband, but you were mostly a stay-at-home mom,
01:25:33.540 and all you did was like the marketing and the hiring and firing and some of the strategy for the business.
01:25:39.680 But it became really apparent that I needed so many more skills to have any type of management job.
01:25:44.620 I couldn't even like work the basic computers.
01:25:47.040 well then go manage a daycare do you know what I mean it's like well like
01:25:50.580 women will cry and men will just figure out a different solution if you have the
01:25:54.040 skills he'll figure it out he told me in the interview please don't apply for
01:25:57.960 any more jobs like this you are not qualified at all you're not capable of
01:26:01.620 doing this unless you go back to school and get your degree or get some
01:26:04.220 different experience and so I ended up my first job after my divorce was $11
01:26:09.780 an hour four hours a day working as translation I was hoping my husband
01:26:15.420 would pay for my lifestyle the rest of my life while i bang other dudes and it's not working out
01:26:19.860 the way that i thought teacher in an elementary school i made 44 a day for 24 years i lived in
01:26:26.960 million dollar homes i vacationed all over the world i spent my summers in oh my god why would
01:26:32.280 you give that up that's what i'm saying what did she leave for like if you're gonna give that up
01:26:37.780 how i put it do you know who made sense to leave her husband
01:26:41.460 sarah palin she upgraded to a baseball player and i'm not saying that's right
01:26:47.060 but i'm saying like that kind of makes sense because she was still in shape she's still kind
01:26:50.980 of hot you know like there there's going to be a buyer there who is going to buy this she's fat
01:26:58.380 like if you're going to divorce your husband do it in shape like i'm not saying that you should
01:27:03.520 but like if we want to go best outcomes here why would you not be in shape you know what i mean
01:27:09.200 Or or even worse than that pearl she's committing the cardinal sin right now. What is she doing talking on social media?
01:27:16.400 She's airing out her. Yeah, this is with her ex on social media if she had those wifey skills
01:27:23.960 And she kept their mouth shut she could have found another guy. Yeah, that's true
01:27:29.000 sense it
01:27:31.100 There are plenty of especially she's in she she's from 50 she can find a guy who's 60s at 65
01:27:40.080 has as much money if not more than her she could have pulled a lauren sanchez if she were in decent
01:27:46.000 shape and didn't do this because this is the worst thing a woman can do on the way out is this right
01:27:50.960 here yeah yeah i could buy myself 500 jeans diamond tennis bracelets we had boats and rvs and
01:28:01.520 whatever i wanted and it never bothered me once that my financial security was dependent on that
01:28:07.680 man being in love with me i never realized that him liking me or not liking me or finding me sexy
01:28:14.160 or attractive or interesting determined whether or not my children could eat whether or not i
01:28:20.080 could buy myself a jug of milk and a loaf of bread so i had my fifth surgery in two years two weeks
01:28:27.040 ago and i'm supposed to be in bed resting and i can't because i worked seven days a week since
01:28:34.160 It's my divorce five years ago, which is why I'm covered in paint and looking like crap.
01:28:39.560 We actually have a.
01:28:40.820 Wow.
01:28:42.220 And she should have stayed married.
01:28:43.780 That cannot be a better way to live.
01:28:47.540 Will she try to reconcile?
01:28:49.220 No.
01:28:49.680 Four day weekend here.
01:28:50.560 You know what I mean?
01:28:51.140 Like women will say they want to reconcile, but all they'll do is send a text.
01:28:56.280 You know what I mean?
01:28:56.560 All they'll do is send a message.
01:28:57.860 Like I miss you.
01:28:58.800 If you really wanted to reconcile, you'd start eating ass.
01:29:04.160 Like we said, do you know what I mean?
01:29:05.860 Like you, we would like, that's what I mean.
01:29:08.440 Like, cause a lot of times guys, you know, they'll be like, women always come back and
01:29:13.700 they do, but like, do they, like, do they come in like really trying to win it?
01:29:18.740 Or is it just, can I still get attention from you?
01:29:22.360 Do you know what I mean?
01:29:23.020 It's like, I don't know.
01:29:25.880 It's like, she really needs to get on her knees.
01:29:29.340 Bag.
01:29:32.280 Bag.
01:29:32.680 what would you what would you recommend doug mpa if your ex-wife came back
01:29:40.120 and i know this is unlikely is there a world what would she have to do to get you back that you
01:29:45.880 would believe her uh it wouldn't happen the way that things ended between her and i no and
01:29:55.480 the behavior that she showed isn't the type that'll go away like she she's gonna be doing that
01:30:02.280 because i think she's remarried now she can be doing that to the same guy but he's just
01:30:05.640 willing to deal with it and i wasn't so there's no scenario no way you know what i asked nuke if
01:30:11.960 that's like um exhausting like when you watch women be terrible people and still win and he
01:30:20.920 told me that he said no because you know that they're just never going to be happy people
01:30:27.080 and they're just going to keep on with their patterns so you don't care you're going to meet
01:30:30.680 people where they may screw you over or do something to you but uh it's hard to even be
01:30:37.700 mad at them because they have to live their life and be themselves you know what i'm saying
01:30:41.580 yeah that's what he said he was like yeah like they're just gonna they probably can and will
01:30:46.620 get a better guy but i don't care because like you are who you are you know yep i agree with
01:30:52.460 them 100 yeah your son and since my partner isn't working he's working on furniture flip okay i'm
01:30:57.540 i'm done with this tick tock i'm gonna go back to the article now just real quick before you
01:31:03.300 get to the person article why do you think that she left her husband try and guess is it going
01:31:08.660 to be abuse no like well that's what she'd say um she needed to find herself he was cheating
01:31:22.020 we'll get to it it's an article my kids were all beautiful and accomplished and it looked like
01:31:25.780 they're the perfect life instead of saying this isn't working look how beautiful this is i was
01:31:29.860 gaslighting myself at an early age the arizona native took a caregiving role for her younger
01:31:35.860 siblings she says she says being a member of the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints
01:31:41.700 put added pressure on her to marry early and bear a large family and being selected for all eternity
01:31:48.740 until her marriage vows to her ex-husband jason greed and added an extra layer to their relationship
01:31:54.660 gage says a mutual friend set them up on a blind date telling her we have returned missionary
01:32:00.260 friend we have a return missionary friend you should marry that date was in june and on their
01:32:04.980 11th date within six weeks of meeting george says she and green were married at a temple in portland
01:32:10.420 oregon in on july 28th 1995. after a few months i knew i had made a mistake um we never wait
01:32:20.660 although gabe gage believes it's up to the individual woman to decide what is right for
01:32:24.820 her she also believes that they need to walk into it with their eyes wide open oh look how cute they
01:32:30.660 are she was i don't know why i think she's so she was so pretty do you think what would you rate her
01:32:36.660 i don't know what it is about this look i think this is just my type and like i'm straight but
01:32:40.900 like my type in women is like this blonde or maybe yeah like she just has like a good look
01:32:46.980 like i'd give her a seven what would you say yeah yeah i was about to say a seven yeah and then you
01:32:52.020 know like if she was mormon so odds are she was like a virgin when she got married and stuff like
01:32:56.820 that so the the kind of mormon being a virgin thing it's kind of hot too yeah well yeah well
01:33:05.140 it didn't it didn't help you know they have a whole sub-genre of corn of like
01:33:11.620 of like mormon stuff where people just like mormons and act like mormons
01:33:18.420 gonna ask me how i know the mormon girls huh i was um probably not designed to be a mormon
01:33:26.820 stay-at-home mom she says with a quick laugh my upbringing was in many ways um was a housewife
01:33:32.580 immersion program designed to prepare me for nothing but wifehood after high school she
01:33:36.980 She attended Birmingham, Young University, Idaho, a private college run by the church
01:33:42.000 in Rexburg, which she earned an associate's degree.
01:33:44.540 But she says she quickly discovered her plans to continue her education were derailed by
01:33:48.540 her early marriage and growing young family.
01:33:51.000 Gage says that she and Green lived in a large home, had a garage full of cars and nice vacations.
01:33:55.840 But on the inside, she was struggling for years and didn't realize it.
01:33:59.240 green um told our green for his part told people they began having problems in their marriage early
01:34:06.760 on and by the seventh year the damage was done gauge says she pondered leaving the marriage for
01:34:12.240 years but didn't know how she could manage it gauge then said she discovered green had been
01:34:16.600 cheating on her for years she says she tried for years to work things out and thought perhaps the
01:34:22.280 cheating was done then she says she discovered he had done it again on october 2018 despite having
01:34:28.840 all three children at home gauge says she knew it was time to walk away but it came at a tremendous
01:34:33.400 cost to her she says she tried to kill herself i doubt it um i survived suicide barely barely
01:34:38.760 they saved me but i was in a coma for 10 days and have a brain injury
01:34:44.440 okay if there is a hospital visit i'll believe it but this story just seems okay
01:34:49.560 i told you this is the the female friendly version of the story she's talking about her
01:34:53.880 struggle. She probably like took some, she probably took some extra Advil and like oversaturated
01:34:59.200 and like banged her head and was sort of like, leaving the church just broke me. It was very
01:35:05.700 out of character. Um, then she recalls one day I rehab a man sat next to me and said,
01:35:09.680 if I'd ever heard Will Smith's brick by brick speech, it's a well-known advice that the actor
01:35:14.740 has given before. You don't set out to build a brick wall. You don't just start there. Smith
01:35:19.120 had said i'm going to lay out this brick as perfectly as the brick can be laid and then you
01:35:24.080 can do that every day and soon you have a wall and so basically she thought that she could probably
01:35:28.000 build what her husband built and then she couldn't okay this is the husband i'm guessing
01:35:34.800 oh my gosh he's attractive too that's a good looking guy you think he's a good looking guy
01:35:39.920 i'd say he's good looking no yeah i think he's tall hey what are you doing of course he's gonna
01:35:45.920 cheat on you there's no way she's going to be able to get a guy like him ever no and i i was
01:35:51.920 mistaken she's been out here for four years she's 50 by the time she's 55 she's going to be begging
01:35:59.920 to get back with her husband or wish that she would have stayed in a marriage because there
01:36:03.360 ain't nothing out here for her well what st kevin samuels say all you married women there's nothing
01:36:09.360 out here for you nothing all there is is trauma and dick yeah not all of you are lauren sanchez
01:36:15.920 especially if you look like this don't recognize the woman that was in the photos in the early part
01:36:22.560 of your marriage and intensia you've been very vocal about the social media content um you said
01:36:28.520 selling a dream to young girls that doesn't exist i want to quickly play one of your tiktoks let's
01:36:33.000 take a look the women that are telling you the trad wife life is amazing are the little 22 year
01:36:40.900 old 24 year old girls that just got in it themselves i am literally just trying to be
01:36:45.940 dead ass honest being a trad wife really sucks
01:36:57.460 you know i i i understand perspective matters and journey matters sure do you
01:37:04.740 but some of these people who are over the age of 40 feel that this is the life that works for them
01:37:10.660 sure that this makes them happy um this allows them to be home with their children sure and
01:37:18.900 be present i can tell you're conflicted because it's it's a tough you're i mean you're a tough
01:37:23.540 talker sure i mean it is beautiful to stay home with your kids and it is beautiful to raise your
01:37:28.660 kids but speaking of the women who are you know spent 20 something years being a tried wife and
01:37:34.020 they they do advocate for it i think they're speaking from a place of i don't want to admit
01:37:38.260 that the last 20 years were miserable and i don't have too much to go to the end so i'm just going
01:37:42.100 to pretend it's been great you know what i mean i don't think i think everybody was born as a
01:37:46.820 dynamic human you have all these qualities and things to give to the world and then to muffle
01:37:52.020 that so that you could make somebody's favorite dinner and fold their laundry just i mean you
01:37:57.380 have so much more to give and when you gate when you didn't uh search that within and bring that
01:38:02.100 out after 20 years you're not going to say oh man i was so wrong so she she there's some dream she
01:38:08.980 had that probably wouldn't have panned out that she felt like she could have did and she blames
01:38:13.620 her husband instead of like her lack of talent and skills and imagine being being her children
01:38:20.660 yeah i know oh my god she's saying that being a mother to her children was a waste of time
01:38:27.140 ah these women don't care oh my god this once again this is the worst thing modern women do
01:38:34.420 right here just air everything i think i did a panel with this girl on like jubilee
01:38:39.020 i think she was on one of the panels i did i'm almost going to be dead you're going to say no
01:38:43.860 it was amazing and i love it we're just getting started here coming up the breaking point that
01:38:51.140 led both jenny and anitia to walk away and why they think right now as i said if you go on social
01:38:58.260 media the trad wife hashtag is exploding why is it so popular if it's so bad that's next
01:39:07.940 okay why do you think that this whole chad wet thing is catching on it's becoming popular
01:39:13.860 because women can get attention for it well yeah that's number one i just think that
01:39:21.140 Well, okay. I think feminists have rewritten history. They tried to say, well, all women could
01:39:28.660 do was stay in the home and raise children. When they forgot to say that how we got here
01:39:37.780 was men sacrificing their mental, emotional, physical, spiritual health for the sake of God,
01:39:44.980 country community family men used to work long hard hours six days a week in physically laborious
01:39:53.300 jobs and now that and women want to come out into the workforce when 77 of the economy is services
01:40:02.020 right and so feminists have romanticized working women who didn't have to work romanticized
01:40:09.300 working so now all their daughters have been out here working and they realize man this sucks
01:40:14.580 so you have women doing this hashtag trad wife thing but they're not they're i don't even think
01:40:20.020 so sorry no oh you think that no i mean most of it's like these young girls just trying to get
01:40:26.660 clout off of it like if they really wanted to be a trad wife they'd just do like they can't help but
01:40:32.260 like do it for social media i'll concede to that i'll concede to it yeah i mean that's just
01:40:38.100 But I understand your point of view.
01:40:41.200 Like, I think that sounds nice, but I just don't see women in mass having any regrets or doing it.
01:40:48.200 I think there'll be hookers before they be trad wives.
01:40:52.440 They can be hookers and then repent later on and the church will welcome them in.
01:40:58.520 We're going to deal with our self-proclaimed former trad wives, Anitza Templeton and Jenny Gage,
01:41:04.560 Both women on a mission, you might say, to show the true realities behind the Trad Wife lifestyle trending on social media.
01:41:12.680 Jenny, the content that we're seeing right now, we had our beautiful guests on in the first segment.
01:41:18.540 And they were saying, you know, this content is really to erase the fear of showing your life.
01:41:24.480 What influence do you think these videos are having?
01:41:28.380 I know they have a lot of influence because I have thousands of women.
01:41:31.680 You want to read the super chats?
01:41:32.840 um is it on the here let me see i didn't see any on the oh here we go eric the issue is there's a
01:41:40.080 real economy and a female economy all this behavior is propagated by enabled women selling
01:41:46.100 useless products to other women selling an image um selling an image what they do matters and is
01:41:51.720 useful a real economy doesn't need them yeah i agree it's like you yeah i mean that's what you
01:41:57.700 get on tick tock a lot of women make money selling useless stuff was that the only one i'm on my phone
01:42:03.460 um i think that oh and there are uh so eric perez had a 20 dollar one did you read the five dollar
01:42:15.060 one from eric perez i think i did but you can read it again he says he says i respect pearl's honesty
01:42:20.500 women would rather be a a prostitute or homeless than be with a man they don't want to want to
01:42:27.220 them that's slavery and then steve m i have a a beat pic but can i post it no you can't
01:42:36.340 and then steve says next caller and then did you read oh you read that one already yeah cool
01:42:43.220 okay thank you um yeah look and i try to be honest guys i don't want to i don't want to
01:42:49.300 like sugarcoat anything because a lot of times i just see this it's like we we a lot of times
01:42:54.980 we say what we want to be true and i've even done this before but it's like women will pick
01:43:00.820 whoredom over being with a guy they don't like they will sorry sorry if that's your ex-wife
01:43:08.260 sorry sorry comments on my videos all the time about how that they want to become trad wives
01:43:16.980 too like this is what a lot of women feel is the thing to do right now and the problem is they
01:43:24.100 They don't give the warning like they aren't showing the risk.
01:43:27.020 They aren't showing what could happen on the other side and what it looks like to not have anything should that romantic relationship fail.
01:43:34.880 I know in the interview that I saw that you did or read, you said, I was I'm more broken than I ever imagined being, but I'm happier than ever.
01:43:44.320 That was after leaving the marriage.
01:43:48.120 Yeah, because now she can get any benefit to a tradition.
01:43:50.960 remember now she can get banged out by alpha chads and you might think what alpha chad's
01:43:56.200 going to bang her someone will do it probably some 20 something year old tyrone is probably
01:44:03.060 banging her like digging her out right now yep and they'll be happier doing that so sorry guys
01:44:09.340 no gender relationship looking back at i know it's it's a challenging question to ask you
01:44:17.460 But is there any benefit to it?
01:44:20.720 There are definitely benefits.
01:44:22.160 Spending time with your children
01:44:23.120 and you kind of self-actualize
01:44:25.780 with your home and decor
01:44:27.460 and things like that.
01:44:28.940 But I think to me
01:44:30.920 it's like riding in a car
01:44:31.980 without a seatbelt.
01:44:33.200 Like maybe it's great
01:44:34.120 to have windows down
01:44:35.620 and the wind's in your hair.
01:44:37.880 But if you're in that car accident,
01:44:39.500 you're going to want your seatbelt on.
01:44:41.040 So I don't advocate
01:44:42.380 on my social medias
01:44:43.800 that people completely
01:44:45.060 don't get married,
01:44:46.080 don't have children,
01:44:47.000 don't take care
01:44:47.460 sourdough bread and if you feel like those traditional gender roles work for you embrace that
01:44:53.500 but do it with your seat belt on and there are ways to do cool all right well these these are
01:45:00.340 just women that took they these are women okay that cut deals that they didn't want
01:45:04.920 and they they traded their youth and their fertility um to a guy that i don't even i feel
01:45:13.780 bad saying like to a bait or a guy they didn't like that much because we don't even like ourselves
01:45:18.160 so i when i say this guys i want you to know this is how the women view you this is how the women
01:45:24.720 like this is through our lens and i just want you to know we hate ourselves we hate each other we
01:45:31.520 can't help that we hate you too so don't take that personal if your ex-wife ended up not liking you
01:45:37.500 much it's not you it's it it really is us you know what i mean uh doug mpa you got any final thoughts
01:45:46.300 okay um if for the four women listening to this think about this you have the opportunity to
01:45:57.740 become a trad wife or a modern woman okay would you rather spend 20 would you rather spend 18 years
01:46:06.060 So let's say you have your first kid on the first day that you become a trad wife or or you go into your career.
01:46:14.560 And then 18 years later, you have to make a change to flip to the other way, other way.
01:46:20.400 Would you rather spend 18 years at home and then start raise your kids and then start a career?
01:46:27.340 or would you spend 18 years in a job that doesn't care about you and then try to have kids to
01:46:32.300 freaking ivf later on could you try to find a man 18 years later they're gonna rather do the first
01:46:37.900 one or the second one yeah no well it's because then they win they get to use their youth on
01:46:43.500 themselves you got it so sorry i would recommend i'm such a doomer i'd recommend at least because
01:46:52.940 I honestly believe, guys, it's better to have loved and lost, to have never loved at all. And
01:46:57.900 you know, maybe not for guys, but women, because women have this fear of missing out on everything,
01:47:03.100 even stuff that they say is toxic. Women still want to get married, even though women hate men,
01:47:09.580 but still want men. Women hate marriage, but still want to get married. That's a great way to put it.
01:47:14.860 Yeah. Women hate children, although they still have them. So it's like, I think a woman should
01:47:21.260 should at least see if the trad wife because honestly ladies why go out there and fight in
01:47:29.260 the world of men if if we if you can find the right guy that'll just give you the world
01:47:37.180 so anyway so then they have to listen then they have to listen to his rules
01:47:41.580 to the four ladies watching this try being a trad wife first yeah you should try but
01:47:47.900 it and it and little taste should join only fans all right thank you doug mpa um so much for
01:47:58.460 your help this evening um and you made the show more interesting with bryson so thanks for coming
01:48:03.660 on i hope we i hope he doesn't hate me no he doesn't hate he won't hate you he's a good guy
01:48:10.460 um yeah all right guys thank you so much for tuning in as usual um i've had a blast with you
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