Pearl - 304 Destroyer, ANDREW WILSON, Joins THE SITDOWN!

00:00:00.000 what up guys welcome to another episode of the sit down and today i have a special guest 304

00:00:11.120 destroyer andrew wilson welcome to the show thanks for having me appreciate it so i got

00:00:16.480 i'm not sure about this jarred water though really jarred water well we like to be like

00:00:21.840 environmentally friendly i care i care a lot about the environment please disregard this can

00:00:29.360 i mean it's such like a beautiful studio and this and that i'm like why am i drinking out

00:00:33.380 of a mason jar what's going on well i feel like that's higher quality yeah yeah that's fair all

00:00:39.040 right um so how how did you get into this space of youtube uh by complete accident really yeah

00:00:48.780 so were you just like a normal guy working like yep normal guy i was working um mostly doing well

00:00:55.340 I mean, um, I, I did robotics repair and, uh, industrial robotics maintenance and, um,

00:01:03.760 yeah, essentially, um, when COVID happened, they shut down the types of plants that I

00:01:09.780 was working at.

00:01:10.600 So I had some free time and I started going on and wrecking people in various, um, I won't

00:01:17.120 say where, but, um, pretty, pretty public, uh, internet area started wrecking them pretty

00:01:22.980 bad and um people enjoyed it and i enjoyed it so i kept going back and wrecking more of them

00:01:29.220 because i hate the left like made me really hate them yeah and um you know that hasn't changed

00:01:35.480 either i still really hate them but um but that's how i got into it so because i've always wondered

00:01:41.680 you're so normal and the people in this industry are so weird yeah you you and rachel both are just

00:01:48.040 like the most normal people and so grounded and i find that people that didn't have real jobs before

00:01:54.780 just go kind of nuts because they never have to deal with like being told no ever yeah yeah well

00:02:00.940 there's a same thing i've noticed the same exact thing so one of the things is um like i didn't

00:02:07.980 know i'd be a great entertainer that i had no idea that but it happened right and i think when

00:02:14.540 it happens to people like me you know i was already in my late 30s you know i'd already

00:02:18.040 been raising a family i'd been in the private sector my entire life uh you know working 40 60

00:02:24.420 70 80 hour weeks depending um so yeah very normal people and yes this industry is completely filled

00:02:32.380 to the brim with absolute fucking lunatics all over the place so uh yeah i get i get what you're

00:02:37.940 saying so what were you like before like if like if a woman said something stupid at your job would

00:02:43.640 you say it yeah i'm a dunk on her yeah really and you wouldn't get in trouble i mean like i mean

00:02:49.220 because people first of all it's a very male oriented yeah industry that i'm in right but i

00:02:55.840 just gotta tell you like men in trades are all like me people think they're on the internet and

00:03:01.240 they're like real men when do i'm like look every electrician every uh you know every guy who's

00:03:08.560 doing hvac every guy who's underneath uh you know a chrysler with a wrench in his hand today

00:03:14.420 they're all like that they don't put up with a shut up you know what i mean they don't put up

00:03:19.600 with any of it so well you know there's some some sims don't get me wrong but right i'm just saying

00:03:24.400 like um most of the time no they just they just don't put up with it because i had a hard time

00:03:29.960 in volleyball because like i couldn't really be super vocal with my opinions and when i was it's

00:03:36.060 like it was all women though oh my god yeah i did you know i played in a tournament with trans

00:03:41.440 people once gross and this is why i don't feel bad at all for women that play with trans people

00:03:47.800 because i was the one who said something and you know who yelled at me fucking women of course

00:03:53.980 of course it's like so now i don't feel bad at all get punched in the face i don't care yeah i

00:03:59.700 don't care i don't care you will like it's the only way for them to learn yeah you know it's

00:04:05.100 only way for them to learn they're like we didn't want this i'm like yes you did yes you did there

00:04:10.280 was a little bit of social pressure he gave to it immediately so now they steal all your little

00:04:14.420 medals they beat you in all your little events you know what i mean and we just get to kick back

00:04:19.120 and laugh because like when's the opposite ever going to happen it's never going to be a female

00:04:22.640 to male who's going to go out there and clear the football team you know what i mean that's never we

00:04:26.240 don't have to worry about it it's not even a big deal for us like yeah bring them in we'd love to

00:04:31.040 beat up on them right yeah but women they you know they they're the ones who got to worry about

00:04:35.840 it and it's like well if you vote voted in you voted in i know for every one riley gains there's

00:04:40.780 like 10 women fighting to be beat up by dudes i don't feel bad i don't feel bad at all true i

00:04:47.080 live by the sword die by that's right i do not care yep live by the vote die by the vote that's

00:04:53.320 right so you're like one of the most based conservatives i would say like you're one of

00:04:58.160 the only ones that call out like conservative feminism did you notice that from the time you

00:05:04.020 were like young or is that something you kind of woke up to in the last oh i've seen it i've seen

00:05:09.260 it from day one in this industry i mean even my early or very early debates with women who were

00:05:15.180 supposed conservatives it was it was like that where we were going back and forth and be like

00:05:19.400 you sound a lot more like a feminist than you do uh you know a right-wing christian conservative

00:05:25.120 if we're even a right winger at all so i mean all the way back in the early days of the crucible we

00:05:29.780 were basically doing battle with the evil women of the internet and there's many of them and where

00:05:36.920 like where were you at in the beginning like what forums like yeah i'm not gonna don't even want to

00:05:42.480 dive into it oh really yeah oh okay yeah don't even want to dive into it you used to debate with

00:05:47.340 like destiny yeah yeah destiny all those guys the reason i don't there's nothing nefarious there

00:05:52.920 like people can go find it all but yeah um it's because i used to work with another group right

00:05:58.820 and i just don't want to give them any clout because it pisses them off

00:06:01.880 that's really it i just don't want to give them any clout because i asked you before i'm like

00:06:08.000 oh is that a bad topic i didn't mean to yeah yeah i just like i i'm sure it irritates them

00:06:13.480 and so i i just find why do they turn on you or something yeah i'm not gonna get into it okay so

00:06:19.140 There was, there was some whatever there, but you were killing destiny even in the early

00:06:24.180 days.

00:06:24.400 Oh yeah.

00:06:24.940 Yeah.

00:06:25.240 Going way, way back.

00:06:26.280 We've always been, I mean, I've, I've, I don't know how many debates I've had with that guy.

00:06:30.440 Many, you know what I mean?

00:06:31.980 And he is one of my favorite ones to tangle with on the left because he's not a complete,

00:06:35.540 you know, fucking idiot.

00:06:37.460 Um, but yeah, we've, I mean, and we'll, we'll tangle up I'm sure in the future too.

00:06:42.540 So do you think that he's woken up at all?

00:06:45.820 like post the divorce post like getting a sexual no no nothing live by the source completely he's

00:06:55.180 completely unfazed by any of it uh but you have to understand like look at it from his perspective

00:06:59.720 he doesn't have shame no like those guys if people are gonna pork your chick and you're okay with it

00:07:05.760 like how are you gonna shame them shame them with what i know but you're like you can imagine like

00:07:11.060 you go over to your friend's house and he's like hey come on in man have a coke and you sit down

00:07:14.600 you're like how's it going you just like you're hearing sex noise from the other room like what's

00:07:18.380 going on oh you know fred he's over here fucking my wife you know he's just over here fucking my

00:07:22.900 wife no big deal don't worry about you know what i mean so anyway what do you want to do tonight

00:07:26.280 it's like so if you don't feel shame by that you like you're not going to shame a person like that

00:07:32.400 they don't care well i almost think they're kind of pragmatic because i talked to someone i know

00:07:39.340 who's like he does the open relationships and stuff and the way he sees it is the conservative

00:07:45.100 guys are getting cheated on anyways so he's like i might as well get to do it too like like think

00:07:51.260 about it like this if a conservative guy gets cheated on um but he's loyal who's more of a

00:07:57.360 cuck him or destiny who's banged like half of conservative commentators no he's not a cuck

00:08:02.060 unless he knows like cuckoldry would require the like the requisite so i mean that comes from the

00:08:08.580 cuckoo bird and the idea is that the the kid is unknowingly you're unknowingly raising the child

00:08:15.560 because you don't know that would be where the cuckoldry comes in the same thing would be

00:08:19.400 you knew that your chick was banging somebody else otherwise if you're just getting cheated on like

00:08:24.980 that's just fucked up like you didn't what did you do no i i'm not saying like i wouldn't i like i

00:08:29.920 wouldn't want to do that type of thing right obviously but like the way they view it is

00:08:34.680 some of them that i've spoken to in depth is like they're whores anyway like the like the way they're

00:08:40.840 going to view it is you guys are doing the same thing you just don't know it like your women are

00:08:45.000 cheating anyway at least this way i get a rot like i mean his roster is kind of impressive it's like

00:08:50.760 lauren southern he banged pixie's okay really like is is that is that impressive i mean these are a

00:08:58.500 lot a lot of these types of women have like spent their whole life with a mattress strapped to their

00:09:02.540 back right like i just think most guys would find them like attractive i'm not i'm not saying like

00:09:07.360 it's good whatever but hang on i'm saying like the guy who's getting cheated on here's what i've

00:09:12.240 noticed though from doing so many especially live whatevers i've noticed this trend uh so you'll

00:09:18.820 ask women like who's who's the more attractive sex men or women and they're always like women

00:09:22.600 right and even the men say women right and so i started thinking about it though and i was like

00:09:26.660 wait a second so i started reframing the question i'd be like now let's say you couldn't get a boob

00:09:31.680 job you couldn't wear any sort of makeup you couldn't get any sort of cosmetic surgery done

00:09:36.280 you couldn't have any butt lifts you couldn't have any facelifts you couldn't have any of that

00:09:40.480 and it's just you all women versus all men who's the most attractive then and their answers are

00:09:46.120 like night and day so i'm like so basically if men just went okay we're just gonna get a ton

00:09:52.560 of cosmetic surgery then yeah and wear makeup all day we would actually probably be the more

00:09:57.480 attractive sex probably yeah because i mean you see it a little bit in hollywood the men get botox

00:10:03.280 veneers they get hair transplant and it does transform the way they look yeah i mean there's

00:10:08.240 a reason women do it as much as we make fun of it like i mean i've seen women because it works

00:10:12.980 they're always trying to capture youth yeah and so you know they do they but basically i'm like

00:10:17.380 so basically you're all augmented and you're like that makes us hot the the you know the better

00:10:23.100 looking sex and i'm like what about without all those augmentations what do you look like then

00:10:27.360 it's like that's not it's not great you know what they look like they look like those chicks

00:10:31.700 and those old women's voting uh or the uh the alcohol prohibition posters where they're like

00:10:38.060 lips like yours will not touch my you know lips who drink a beer won't touch mine you look at

00:10:42.480 those women you're like why would anybody's lips want to you would have to be drunk like you'd

00:10:46.960 have to be drunk to want to touch those women but that's more akin to what they would actually look

00:10:51.940 like so yeah i don't even believe the fair sex thing i don't even think so like basically every

00:10:57.840 single lie i'd always been told about women has over the years just crumbled completely until like

00:11:02.440 25 i would say women are more attractive i don't think so no i think if it was the same augmentation

00:11:08.740 you know what i mean same augmentation available to both i mean these women are getting boom jobs

00:11:13.220 at 22. do you know what we forgot about steroids for men that really changes guys like physique

00:11:18.400 when they go on like yeah I mean yeah they like punch walls but yeah women cry

00:11:24.340 when they're on there like you know oh I'm dieting I'm on my special diet and

00:11:28.540 they you know they go fucking ballistic crazy too I know I never forget remember

00:11:33.460 that like guys are right it up gets get roid rage like that's true have you ever

00:11:37.360 seen what it's like when a woman's dieting what her attitudes like when

00:11:41.080 she's dieting they're like conniving horrible bitches so you guys really

00:11:45.400 solve all our problems they're like you can't diet anymore here's ozempic you're flat here's

00:11:51.060 some fake boobs here's some fake boobs you don't want to age here's some oh you're having self-esteem

00:11:55.640 issues what can we fucking do for you today yeah exactly and then the men the men are like well

00:12:01.060 what about prostate cancer we're like dying they're like fuck you but here's a boner pill

00:12:06.440 for those augmented women yeah we get old and our husbands don't want to screw us anymore they're

00:12:14.300 Like, here's Viagra.

00:12:15.460 It's his fault.

00:12:16.420 Yeah, just sit there and hope.

00:12:18.920 But, I mean, all of it, it all starts to collapse, actually, very quickly.

00:12:22.960 Like, even in studio, when you see these women with your eyes, your camera eyes, versus how they are, how they appear, I'm always telling guys, I'm like, listen, they don't look like what you think they look like.

00:12:36.520 You know what I mean?

00:12:37.320 Even the outfits are designed specifically to, like, pinch here, cinch there, take a little bit off of there.

00:12:43.700 makes me look a little thinner here like all of it's all conniving the corset yeah it's all

00:12:48.320 conniving and it's all bs you know what i mean and it's like um so yeah just like basically all

00:12:54.020 illusions that i might have ever had are completely gone did you see my catfish of the year

00:12:58.900 no like the thread oh yeah yeah yeah i think i made it i forgot there's some major publication

00:13:06.980 that i was in and i was like on um it went so viral they got so mad all because i said that

00:13:14.900 you don't look like your pictures didn't call them ugly i didn't say you were bad looking right

00:13:21.460 i didn't even say i was better looking i just said you don't look like your pictures and some

00:13:27.060 of those were so you know who won who that like crazy red-headed lady the libertarian the red-headed

00:13:32.940 libertarian yeah yeah i saw the comparison contrast too and it's like you spend a little

00:13:39.820 bit of work yeah you spend a little time before you go into work working on what you look like

00:13:46.120 before you go to work here yeah if if your beauty is a full-time job you might just not look like

00:13:51.840 that yeah yeah agreed what's your favorite moment of your career like is there a debate that because

00:13:58.920 you recently my favorite i think well my favorite for me yeah like just the one that i enjoyed yeah

00:14:05.580 like what who did you with bevo with who bevo who's that bevo the cuck he was oh man that was

00:14:11.840 the funniest shit ever this guy this only fans chick was there with her boyfriend bevo who's

00:14:18.300 like a famous tiktoker or was a famous tiktoker and his whole claim to fame was that he swallowed

00:14:23.360 food whole okay and he came in and he was like yeah this is my only fans girl i was like you

00:14:28.020 let your chick get stuffed by other dudes and you're just like you know okay with that he's

00:14:31.960 like yeah what's wrong with that no you ain't gonna care when i live in my mansion in this

00:14:35.860 and then he just started spurging out and it was really funny right i didn't think anything of it

00:14:40.540 but the next day he came out with this cope video where he he was like okay so the whole thing was

00:14:47.240 a larp and i'm not really a cuck guys i don't you know blah blah blah blah blah and that was all

00:14:51.560 bullshit turns out he really was and he was just coping you know what i mean he's like my dad called

00:14:56.640 me and said hey you can't be letting your chick you know bang other guys well and if you're gonna

00:15:04.820 okay if you're gonna be a cuck like own it at least destiny owns it yeah right i mean like he's

00:15:11.760 not gonna do an apology video no he doesn't care yeah there's no shame at all they don't care no

00:15:16.980 shame you know and feminism works out really well for leftists honestly i mean leftist men love it

00:15:21.920 better than anybody sexual liberation from they wouldn't get laid without it like imagine there

00:15:26.720 was the enforceability of what we had in the early 1900s where women were just socially compelled

00:15:32.060 to remain chaste until they were until they were married right leftist men have you ever seen what

00:15:38.300 they look like they're getting no fucking chicks they're getting any they're gonna get it so sexual

00:15:43.540 liberation is like they love it because it's the one way where they can be the mistake right you

00:15:49.080 you they could be that woman's next mistake you know and they'll leverage themselves to do it so

00:15:55.200 yeah which oh my gosh and you called him out for the lauren southern stuff before that long before

00:16:00.700 it ever came out and they were like they were like that didn't happen it didn't happen and then

00:16:05.520 like his friend comes out 40 minute video that happened yeah yeah so funny it was so funny how

00:16:14.240 is um debating tommy lauren uh well she's insufferable and she's also she you know very

00:16:21.300 deep voice on uh tommy lauren right very uh masculine traits on her but also like many of

00:16:28.820 these conservative commentators i really don't understand the female conservative commentator

00:16:33.480 sphere because they're really really fucking stupid and i'm like how is it that you keep

00:16:39.920 getting brought on tv and then you realize oh i see it's because they think that men want to have

00:16:45.080 sex with you and so they present you as you know a package where you say right wing thing plus man

00:16:50.460 want fuck and then bam we make money so once you realize that that's what the formula is it's like

00:16:57.060 okay that makes more sense because they are really stupid and it's like it's no wonder you don't see

00:17:03.100 female conservatives in the debate sphere with feminists because they would just get destroyed

00:17:07.040 the feminists would just mangle them because they're so fucking stupid I mean just ridiculously

00:17:13.880 stupid yeah I think there was a point in that debate where you said I can't remember what you

00:17:21.300 said I just remember her face and it was just like she had duties women have oh that was it

00:17:26.820 it was so funny I was like what are duties that women have towards men and she was like well

00:17:30.480 I just think that men naturally want to provide for women I'm like so wait so you think that

00:17:36.120 i want to get you nice shit just to watch you have it you know like that's that's what you're

00:17:42.880 saying great well that's fantastic every man on earth wants to sign up for that and then if you

00:17:48.700 say that to them like well you're not a real man right you know a real man will buy me nice shit

00:17:53.160 and then just watch how happy i am when i get it yeah that's what real men do yeah they're wild

00:17:58.380 these these women are wild and out especially especially on the conservative side you know

00:18:04.080 In fact, a lot of the feminists, the outright outspoken feminists, act more conservative in their relationships with men than the conservative women do.

00:18:14.400 Yeah.

00:18:15.600 Significantly more submissive than the conservative counterparts, which is just insane to me.

00:18:22.360 I know I saw you on whatever, and you're one of the few people that say that there's no difference between conservative and liberal women.

00:18:30.120 Like you hear Charlie Kirk and he'll say like, you know, a woman's political opinions matter.

00:18:36.240 And I don't know what you found on whatever, but when I was doing interviews, I didn't

00:18:41.120 really see a difference.

00:18:42.320 I was like, you can just reprogram her after you.

00:18:45.040 Yeah.

00:18:45.360 Well, I mean, there's always going to be individuals who have good political takes who are women.

00:18:51.380 Like that's the case.

00:18:52.960 But you generally speaking, it's like a general statement.

00:18:56.040 And it is true that you can't put a piece of paper between conservative female commentators and feminist female commentators.

00:19:05.940 Like it's a piece of paper between them.

00:19:09.000 And and that's what I found, too.

00:19:11.460 And when I'm debating them, they always use the same talking points.

00:19:13.740 And instantly, you know, it's really fun to watch if you get two conservative females on a panel and there's like four liberal females and you start tangling up with with both sides.

00:19:24.540 and he watched the sisterhood form instantly right suddenly they're not conservatives or women or or

00:19:31.060 or uh liberals right they're they're women and you're an evil oppressive patriarchal lunatic

00:19:36.560 man right instantly all of the political divide gone i saw that with nala that was crazy all of

00:19:45.240 the oh my gosh michael no have you debated him yet he won't debate oh i've asked multiple times

00:19:51.760 requested multiple times live and i know that brian whatever's requested it multiple times

00:19:56.700 the guy won't debate yeah you know it's really funny for the guy who always gets a lot of shit

00:20:01.880 you only debate 304s i'm like if the roster of men that i've debated is massive right the roster

00:20:08.900 of men most of my critics has debate zero zero so it's like uh i'm just equal about it right i don't

00:20:16.240 care if you're a fucking idiot who's a guy or a girl right both of you you're an equal opportunity

00:20:20.820 Equal opportunists when it comes to that.

00:20:22.800 So with Knowles, though, yeah, I would be happy to.

00:20:25.960 Him, all of those guys on the Daily Wire,

00:20:28.640 I was always happy to Tango, especially Klavan.

00:20:30.800 After I saw the Klavan interview he did, I was like,

00:20:32.800 oh, man, I want to tear into Klavan so bad on this.

00:20:35.860 Because they're just clueless.

00:20:37.280 They have no idea what they're talking about.

00:20:38.560 Yeah, what are your biggest disagreements with them?

00:20:41.060 Like, what would you...

00:20:42.240 If I were to take, like, the Daily Wire or TKUSA and all of them?

00:20:45.620 If you were going to do you versus, like, 10 of them,

00:20:50.040 what would be like the points you brought up well the first thing i would do is i would say like

00:20:53.920 you guys publicly lie a lot about the idea of women in your organizations because when i talk

00:20:59.840 to the tp usa people on the ground privately who are at universities organizers things like that

00:21:05.320 they're like andrew i totally agree with everything you're saying these women are completely predatory

00:21:09.880 they're a big problem to have in our organization you know what i mean i wish more people would

00:21:14.140 tangle up with them they know it's an issue they just pretend it's not and why it's because they

00:21:19.540 want a groundswell of support from conservative women that's what they're after right uh the

00:21:25.400 problem is they're not actually speaking to real conservative women's issues and real conservative

00:21:30.840 women's issues are not it's not about the stupid idea of baking bread wearing a fucking sundress

00:21:36.540 and that's what it's become so you know the first thing i would dive into is like well what are the

00:21:42.940 women's issues between the left and the right, right, that you find makes the woman a right

00:21:49.560 winger or a left winger? What are these actual issues? Where's the divide here? I don't think

00:21:55.120 they'd give me an answer. I don't think they could actually give me an answer. I think that they would

00:21:59.100 end up saying a bunch of social issues that were all left wing based. All of them. And conservatives

00:22:05.500 are even trying to fund IVF now. Yeah. Yeah. It's so crazy. I'll see Candace Owens tweeting about

00:22:12.620 how like the Gardasil shot is making women infertile yeah I saw that and I'm like I don't

00:22:17.240 know I think it might just be women having kids older yeah and also getting too many STDs also

00:22:24.000 makes yeah it's not hard but the thing is one out of three women hasn't had an STD like and we all

00:22:30.140 know we all know it's higher right if we're admitting to one out of three it's half yeah

00:22:34.080 but but Pearl here's a bit of one why would conservative men advocate that women go to

00:22:40.540 college knowing that it's like the most degenerate institute they could ever send women yeah it's the

00:22:47.160 stupidest thing i've ever heard what goes on at college a bunch of conservative stuff or a bunch

00:22:52.340 of having sex drinking drugs promiscuity that's what that's what goes on that's what college is

00:22:58.420 famous for it's not famous for rolling out highly educated women that's for sure it's definitely

00:23:04.720 famous for rolling out progressive women who had very highly promiscuous histories in college it's

00:23:10.660 like why would conservatives be advocating for that no we would need an educated populace send

00:23:16.280 all of our all of our reproducing age women to a den of literal degeneracy that's the stupidest

00:23:24.080 shit i've ever heard and i've never heard any of them get put to that question ever once like why

00:23:28.080 do you think that's a good idea they they have no idea they have no like why are you advocating for

00:23:33.880 that it's dumb it's just like when lauren chen was she was advocating advocating for secular

00:23:40.640 marriage i'm like why advocating for what secular marriage i'm like why would you advocate for

00:23:45.820 secular marriage what's the point of that she was like actually now i think about it i don't really

00:23:50.600 know what the point of that is she disappeared thank you for the super chat it says keep up

00:23:56.200 the good work thank you guys um that was a hilarious debate she was like spurging out yeah

00:24:05.540 jen yeah all my enemies take down themselves yeah there was a you know what's really funny

00:24:13.440 what i noticed is that all those people who went after crowder on the divorce thing crickets they

00:24:19.800 all took themselves out like within a year of that they all started just one by one taking

00:24:24.280 themselves out all the ones again so i'm like kind of waiting for the candace fall too because

00:24:29.300 she went pretty hard that was when i was like people in my chat asked me all the time like

00:24:33.660 do you support candace on nope so why and i was like when this guy was getting divorced

00:24:40.360 we all knew he's under gag order he couldn't say shit he couldn't say anything to anybody

00:24:45.780 right and that's when they hit him when he when he couldn't defend himself it's like the worst

00:24:50.760 cowardly weaselly way to attack and she was right and still is she doubles down on it right she

00:24:56.640 doubled doubles down oh he's an abuser shut up shut up he's an abuser like and oh he talked to

00:25:04.360 his wife in a bad way bitch are you gonna tell your husband how he's allowed to talk to you

00:25:09.200 shut the fuck up well and you don't know what the con what critical context is behind that like

00:25:14.280 what if she had been a bitch for 36 hours before and he finally lost his mind for five seconds but

00:25:19.720 that's what's filmed like you don't even these people didn't even have the context they were

00:25:23.960 looking to bump them off and kind of jockey themselves into a little position there is what

00:25:28.980 they were looking for it says welcome what does that say welcome to the crucible crew yeah welcome

00:25:34.520 to the crucible crew happy to see you guys there no well that's the thing with her i really used

00:25:41.040 to be a fan of her but i'm like she's the same like the crowder thing was so disappointing for

00:25:47.880 me because i watched all of like because i feel like i came at this from a viewer and i just

00:25:52.580 watched all the conservatives that i i thought i really liked just pile on top of this guy who

00:25:58.460 like what did he do he raised his voice at his wife that was it really like none of you have

00:26:04.740 raised your voices in your own home ever all of your fights you look like an angel really

00:26:10.260 and i'm like if you were really like now she's grifting catholicism and i'm like if you really

00:26:15.200 meant the catholicism stuff like you would have a retraction an apology and you wouldn't be telling

00:26:21.040 a guy how to run his house it's also fine to change bigger now the grift lord is here yes

00:26:25.580 the grift is here you mustn't super chat for the grift so yes um the other thing is it's like you

00:26:33.940 know what what about this you could also just be like you know what i was wrong i was wrong and

00:26:39.160 called it wrong and you know what steven sorry about that you just do that too he's so nice like

00:26:44.480 the guy would probably be like you know what no problem you know but they don't even do that

00:26:49.380 they only and now now a lot of that stuff is public right and they still won't do it and it's

00:26:54.680 like well you know candace all all goodwill i might have had towards her the second that happened

00:27:00.760 right yeah gone i mean she said he was an abusive monster i'm like really i said worse than that

00:27:07.540 you know and who knows what what a chick like that connection who knows what she did behind

00:27:11.520 the scenes right who knows what they do behind the scenes you know any conniving evil backstabbing

00:27:17.760 lunatics so yeah screw that yeah so what would be your next point with them so the first part would

00:27:24.700 be about college and yeah well i would i will know the first point would be to ask what the

00:27:29.420 distinctions what they would consider the actual distinctions between the behaviors of conservative

00:27:34.660 and liberal progressive women what are they i don't think they could give me many the second

00:27:39.240 would be to ask why they send them to these dens of inequity when they know that that's a terrible

00:27:43.540 idea and the third is why it is that they refuse to engage in any of the points of the red pill

00:27:51.960 in order to either a refute them right or b adopt them but give a christian prescription correct

00:27:58.340 for what it is or you know c just like blow them all out right you have you have to either offer

00:28:04.400 the refutation at some point uh or you're going to get dominated by the ideology these are supposed

00:28:11.360 to be christian conservative commentators the only one i've ever seen in the red pill doing battle

00:28:15.260 with these guys is fucking me i've never seen anybody else doing it and thing is so funny is

00:28:20.720 even though i fight with red pill guys constantly i'm constantly debating with them

00:28:24.900 i get associated with red pill because i won't take any shit from these feminist women

00:28:29.020 that was going to be my next question if you consider yourself red pilled at all

00:28:33.360 i think that descriptors from red pillars are often fine like descriptions of what's going on

00:28:41.120 is fine i think that most of the time they come out with prescriptors they're terrible and stupid

00:28:46.100 and kind of retarded so like when guys are saying you know sleep with multitudes of women to like

00:28:51.880 experience a level up i think that that's dumb i think if they're saying things like do you think

00:28:56.840 it works though no no it doesn't work you don't think women treat men who has access to that

00:29:02.880 like this teeny tiny percentage of men how's that going to help any uh men in general well i'm not

00:29:08.980 talking about men in general i'm talking about like individual men like if they're if they're

00:29:14.120 trying it and coming back and saying that this helped them in their life like you can't really

00:29:19.500 argue with that yeah but i mean you can say the same thing with heroin you can say the same thing

00:29:23.480 with crack cocaine whatever you wanted you know i tried cocaine it helped me in this portion of my

00:29:27.460 life it's like i still wouldn't give it as a prescription for people to do you know yeah but

00:29:32.660 When I was really down and out, here's an easy one.

00:29:34.840 When I was really down and out after a breakup, I would drink way too much.

00:29:38.820 That doesn't mean I would give that out as a prescription that men drink way too much

00:29:42.280 after a breakup.

00:29:43.260 Yeah, but I don't really see it as like they're telling men what to do.

00:29:47.140 I just think it's more like if you want to do this, this is how to do it.

00:29:50.800 Yeah, I agree.

00:29:51.540 But that would, again, be a descriptor instead of a prescriptor.

00:29:54.600 The guys who give it as a prescription or the pickup dating artist community does this

00:29:59.160 a lot.

00:29:59.560 Yeah, like live how I live.

00:30:00.900 yeah here's the various prescriptions or what society should be doing or things like this

00:30:05.220 that's where they run afoul but a lot and you got to take some it's some of the descriptors

00:30:09.960 with a grain of salt too they're not always true the pair bonding studies aren't always true there's

00:30:13.960 lots of stuff you got to be careful about i just think like anecdotally though um i think most men

00:30:22.280 like women just tend to abuse men when they know that they're their only source of sex and that's

00:30:28.560 where the problem comes in well what do you mean like women just have a tendency to not um

00:30:35.300 like i don't know i see so many men where they're married and the wife knows that he doesn't cheat

00:30:42.180 yeah and she just does not appreciate his loyalty and i see women where they think that the husband

00:30:48.120 either could cheat or would cheat and they just tend to treat him better yeah tend to behave better

00:30:53.340 yeah and i think that's like that's what i was saying where as much as you don't like it i can

00:30:58.300 see why yeah but can there be that luminous implicit threat without it ever even being stated

00:31:03.660 like i think there can be and i think that those guys a lot of those guys who can do that they

00:31:08.800 don't even bother saying what do they need to say it for they oh yeah well known that they can just

00:31:13.760 do it tell her yeah you don't need to tell her right it's not it's not important so how is that

00:31:19.540 but how's that a prescription there's such a small select few guys who can do that who have

00:31:25.020 do you know what yeah i think it's more common than you'd think i i met this guy the other day

00:31:31.140 he was like five seven overweight he was showing me his rotation it was like five 22 23 year old

00:31:38.080 was he rich no he was just a good talker he like he was just um easy to talk to so i don't know if

00:31:45.540 it's like from what i've seen the puas i don't think they're always the most attractive like

00:31:51.040 or rich guys like sometimes they're just charming they're also con artists a lot of them they're

00:31:55.580 conning right like they make that shit up like that guy that guy john anthony lifestyle total

00:32:00.900 fucking con artist just made it all up you know i've got an 8 000 body he's like shut up dude

00:32:06.120 and then the guy tells me he's like i've never met a pickup artist in the world who hasn't done

00:32:10.320 a tranny one or two and i'm like that is disgusting i'm like what dude what he's like yeah i've never

00:32:15.380 met one who hasn't i'm like i'm pretty sure most of them don't so the thing is is like a lot of

00:32:21.280 those guys are full of shit about no i've i've gone to events like i've seen them take the women

00:32:26.200 home and a lot of times it's really not um it's not always the best looking guys they're just

00:32:31.440 charming like i don't i've remained skeptical in this regard yeah i mean it's fine like one of the

00:32:38.320 PUAs I met in like Vega I mean he was not attractive at all I mean some some are right

00:32:44.140 like a lot of like a good amount are but there's enough that aren't good looking that like you

00:32:49.560 would I'm surprised you would like you would be surprised just from what I've seen yeah I mean

00:32:56.580 I'm sure that there's again there's going to be men who are you know are exceptions to these rules

00:33:01.820 you know what I mean but I don't think for the most part um it's available to most men to be

00:33:06.720 just be able to go sleep with whatever type of woman they want i know it's just the challenge

00:33:10.580 is there's just no incentive for men to be loyal today like what do they get out of it

00:33:14.740 well uh family the family we're having like one kid each that's that's not really having kids

00:33:22.720 that's true but but again and like there's no incentive like the wives cheat all the time

00:33:28.940 yeah but there's also wives that don't cheat at all so the key the key is this it's a matter of

00:33:34.680 what you can't verify that you don't you don't think every single wife cheats do you i don't

00:33:39.720 think every single wife cheats but like my point is if she does there's a lot of avenues where he

00:33:45.300 wouldn't even know there's a lot of avenues the other way too i agree right but i guess the point

00:33:50.700 is is like yes it is it is true if we average all of the children yes it averages out to you know

00:33:57.840 less than two per woman that's true that doesn't mean women are only having one kid you know it

00:34:02.960 just means that fewer women are having multiple kids and other women are having zero kids so

00:34:08.580 it's like yeah there's still men who i want to see them have a family have multiple children

00:34:14.040 and have a loyal wife and yeah i still think that's very possible it's like possible but i

00:34:19.740 don't i don't know i just talking to young guys i don't think i think a lot of them don't really

00:34:24.520 see that as happening for them well i think a lot of times they're like every trend is predicting

00:34:30.540 it's not going to get better it's going to get worse that's true and i agree that it'll get worse

00:34:34.280 like yeah and so it's like they could hope for that but that's not a strategy you know well it

00:34:39.560 is a strategy though when you start looking for what virtues are once men re reallocate their

00:34:45.340 idea of feminine virtue or female virtue what i've noticed is that you know i get contacted by

00:34:51.440 thousands of men all over the world like once i reoriented for what i consider feminine virtues

00:34:56.780 to be i started being very much more successful towards women who have held those virtues yeah but

00:35:01.820 it's for now right i mean you don't know how it's going to play out in 10 years and 20 like a lot of

00:35:06.460 a lot of women are virtuous for a period of time you know you just know it's tough i think

00:35:12.860 interviewing the men that were divorced kind of black-pilled me because um i would just see women

00:35:20.460 that in every like on paper were better than me in every way they married younger they were like

00:35:25.740 more religious you know and i'm like like you know they married at 20 or whatever um orthodox

00:35:33.160 catholic whatever whatever it is right and they did like terrible terrible things like awful

00:35:39.660 things and i'm like wow there's like no there's also heavy societal influence telling them that

00:35:45.360 it's perfectly acceptable for them to do those things yeah we had a society not very long ago

00:35:49.840 we can look to where the incentives were the opposite or if you did those things there was

00:35:54.100 very much social punishments which would come with them you know single motherhood was considered

00:35:59.740 you were considered a pariah right you know things like that that's that's no joke social

00:36:04.600 enforcement works if you think that we could not propagandize from top down again for social

00:36:09.480 enforcement like we used to i very much disagree every single war every single thing that people

00:36:15.140 believe right now all comes from top down propaganda and it's like you could do the

00:36:18.900 same thing when it came to the dynamics of family relationship but women would have to do social

00:36:24.300 enforcement towards pariahs like they used to yeah i don't think it would work don't think so

00:36:29.400 no you know there's countries that it does work it is working how is it working eastern block

00:36:34.800 nations they've been promoting not only birth rates through tax incentives but also the family

00:36:39.500 unit from the top down younger men are reporting much happier levels when it comes to the marriages

00:36:44.600 they're having with younger women and women are acting a more virtuous way way less single moms

00:36:49.220 there's a lot of good stuff coming out of that yeah and maybe like you could argue that but just

00:36:55.620 i don't think that the women on whatever are really going to change what they're doing right

00:37:01.440 well not all the women first of all like i don't you know not all the women are whatever are bad

00:37:05.840 right it but there is i agree yeah like there's a case selection of many who are right but a lot

00:37:12.340 of them there there's actually a good amount of women who've gone through whatever who are kind

00:37:16.640 of based and kind of with it and understand that there's serious and significant problems going on

00:37:21.880 you know what i mean uh but there's just also the ones who you don't want to touch with a 10-foot

00:37:26.820 pole and who are fucking delusional and everything else and they come from all walks of life i don't

00:37:31.440 think that it's unfixable though like you have a more black-pilled kind of idea than idea where

00:37:36.120 you're just like this is unfixable let it all burn to the ground i don't think so though well i just

00:37:41.420 don't think we have as much as an impact as you might think like i don't think commentators can

00:37:47.000 change trends i agree yeah well so like well no hang on let me talk about that some can but we

00:37:53.260 ain't going to do it like some can at like the highest echelons yeah i think some commentators

00:38:01.840 are able to kind of shift like i've seen memes change paradigms i've seen a single meme change

00:38:08.380 the way people view a problem so i mean i know that that does work um but when you're when you're

00:38:14.720 talking about changing the entire social trend of a country which has been indoctrinated with

00:38:19.900 feminism and communism for a hundred years and has been indoctrinated with ideology which is

00:38:25.120 around women's liberation we're all born and bred and raised in it yeah that's going to take a while

00:38:29.600 that's not a fast fast process but here's here's my question to you though like if we're under

00:38:35.360 replacement rate aren't they all going to die out anyway yeah but there's no guarantee like i've

00:38:40.460 seen very christian parents give birth to liberal kids yeah it happens but it's but it's less likely

00:38:45.820 when it comes to the women i don't really see a difference um i like i understand if we look at

00:38:51.400 the body count between between kids who are raised in a christian household and kids who are not it

00:38:56.880 is not even right but who has more incentive to lie yeah but who is who is more incentive to lie

00:39:03.660 Like, you know, I don't really trust any, I don't trust any study that says like women

00:39:09.380 said they do this.

00:39:11.220 Yeah.

00:39:11.520 Like, come on.

00:39:12.620 But in this, but in the social paradigm, they both have the incentive to lie.

00:39:15.960 No, because liberal women are still judged for being sluts, even if they're liberals.

00:39:20.040 Right.

00:39:20.400 But they're much more open.

00:39:21.760 They'll do it on camera.

00:39:23.380 Right.

00:39:23.780 So conservative women, I mean, they'll do it on camera too.

00:39:27.680 They'll just switch.

00:39:28.980 Yeah.

00:39:29.400 They like, they do it on camera too.

00:39:30.960 i think they're both and would have the same incentive there because uh the idea of you being

00:39:35.920 the social pariah because you have a high body count affects them both but conservative women

00:39:39.680 find the workarounds so they do it from the back door they'll blow and they won't count it as a body

00:39:45.200 yeah progressives do progressive women do the same i've questioned both ends of that ideology

00:39:50.160 both on both sides like progressive women also do not want to give you their body count

00:39:56.080 Progressive women also do not want you to know, you know, X, Y, Z, same as the conservatives, that social pariah aspect still very much there.

00:40:04.020 And here's why those progressive women, they still want conservative guys.

00:40:07.480 They want Chad conservative guys.

00:40:09.640 I would just from my experience, balance of probabilities.

00:40:13.280 The conservative women lie more because there's more incentive to.

00:40:17.420 Yeah, I would say they're more I would say they're more dishonest where the liberal women will say, yep, I'm a whore slut march.

00:40:24.700 and the conservative women put on a dress and say they're not but they you know blow half of

00:40:30.100 conservative media i mean that happens i just think that they both have an incentive to not

00:40:35.200 tell the truth about the body count but i just i don't and by the way you can adjust for that

00:40:39.100 in studies too you can actually make adjustments for that by asking questions in different ways

00:40:44.660 and then if you have different sorts of answers you can make comparisons on that and go well wait

00:40:49.460 so one still has to be more truthful than the other yeah i just wouldn't take any study on

00:40:53.800 body count seriously why not like if anything because women lie about it so why do like why

00:40:59.800 am i gonna take their word for anything yeah but i mean like what i would prefer is age of first

00:41:06.820 marriage number of kids i think is better christians have that better too yeah a little

00:41:11.900 bit but gen z it's really not that different like if you include boomer women and gen x yeah but if

00:41:18.440 gen z not really yeah but what comes after gen z is gen alpha and that might be the most based

00:41:24.100 the most based ever generation that has ever lived we don't know yet yeah i mean it could be i mean

00:41:32.220 they were saying gen x were going to be the worst degenerates ever and they're actually less

00:41:35.540 degenerate than gen x okay and they weren't the worst degenerates ever they became much more

00:41:41.720 socially conservative than people thought gen z on the other hand and millennials especially

00:41:46.640 millennials became a bunch of leftist scumbags but gen z moving the paradigm back a little bit

00:41:51.180 it's very possible that generation alpha is finally the first generation of actual alphas

00:41:56.080 right rocking around it's possible i mean i just see the sex is going further and further apart

00:42:01.660 good and i i see um that's a good thing i want that i want the division you wanted the families

00:42:07.940 i do want the families but the idea of the sex is being far apart is saying that we both have

00:42:13.100 gender roles and those gender roles i'm not going to settle for less than that gender role and

00:42:17.720 neither are you and it's like so one's going to have to break and it's going to be women first

00:42:22.080 because they need men men don't need them yeah but what i see is it becoming more monetized and

00:42:27.480 you're already seeing that i mean with all the only fans models that you've debated right like

00:42:32.080 it's just going to become more transactional like that's what i would predict for the future i don't

00:42:36.380 i'm not saying i wish that right but if i had to like guess what's going to happen and like

00:42:41.440 Like, do you really think in 10 years it's going to be any more conservative?

00:42:45.580 Yeah.

00:42:46.760 Yes, I do.

00:42:47.600 I don't think so.

00:42:48.420 Yeah.

00:42:48.680 I mean, I wouldn't have expected Trump to have gotten elected the second time either.

00:42:52.140 Right.

00:42:52.680 Not on the heels of all the propaganda, which had happened against him.

00:42:56.260 But, you know, the truth is, is like the pendulum, when it swings back right, is swinging much harder back right.

00:43:03.000 So it used to be a little bit more like kind of even.

00:43:05.680 It would go to the left.

00:43:06.420 Then it would come back to the right.

00:43:07.780 Then it would go back to the left.

00:43:08.780 It would be about even.

00:43:09.460 And now it's ticking left, and then it swings harder.

00:43:11.960 Then it goes back to the left, and then it swings harder to the right.

00:43:15.040 So it's always swinging harder right.

00:43:18.060 If we look at states, states are beginning the process of outlawing pornography.

00:43:22.200 They're beginning the process of doing that.

00:43:24.340 Many of them successfully have done it.

00:43:26.820 And I think that that trend is going to be moving more and more and more towards that

00:43:30.920 until you get to a place it's like eventually people get sick of it.

00:43:35.560 They'll ban porn, but they won't ban OnlyFans.

00:43:38.180 No, some of them are moving towards banning ORF.

00:43:39.780 I doubt it.

00:43:40.680 Come on.

00:43:41.460 I think it'll happen.

00:43:42.740 Women are going to die on the hill of like...

00:43:45.240 Yeah, but you...

00:43:45.900 Okay, but I will challenge this by saying this.

00:43:48.760 A few years ago, we had this conversation on abortion.

00:43:51.340 And you're like, man, that's never going to happen.

00:43:53.240 Women will never allow for abortion to go...

00:43:56.820 Well...

00:43:57.820 Well, Roe versus Wade was overturned, but plan B...

00:44:01.220 Don't you consider plan B abortion?

00:44:03.420 Yeah, the thing is, plan B...

00:44:04.520 And that's way up.

00:44:05.720 like if you look if you you could say maybe abortions have gone down a little bit but plan

00:44:10.460 b's have gone up yeah but it was still the first step in the mitigation process so it just starts

00:44:15.900 so all of this politic politics like you really slow moving machine you think number of kids is

00:44:21.400 going to go up like you think marriage is really going to not you not not anytime soon yeah not

00:44:27.420 anytime soon but here's the thing the the trend is population is going to go still increase a

00:44:31.960 little bit then it's going to plateau and then the nosedive that we have in the years of pain

00:44:36.360 that'll come from having an elderly population that doesn't have enough young people to care for

00:44:40.000 them is going to be very brutal but i do think that necessarily just like we've seen you know

00:44:46.240 time and time again we even saw it in soviet russia but the propaganda has to start or you

00:44:50.160 don't have a society but i guess because my question would be like what incentive do the men

00:44:54.600 if we have to go through like 20 years of bullshit to get a wife like what incentive do the men have

00:45:00.540 to not sleep around well i mean in the current society the only thing that would prevent them

00:45:05.620 from that would be the idea of virtue and religiosity like if gen z women like from a

00:45:10.660 practical standpoint if i'm looking at your view here from the practical standpoint i would say

00:45:14.740 nothing yeah that's my point i'm not i'm not saying it's good or i'm not saying it's good

00:45:18.780 or bad but i think like they come to that conclusion because it's pragmatic yeah i agree

00:45:23.000 yeah yeah i agree it's very difficult to to make a normative claim like uh well the normative claim

00:45:29.180 the moral claim that's easy right but it's hard to make a more normalized claim let's say not

00:45:33.900 normative but normalized claim of uh well you just really shouldn't sleep with a bunch of chicks

00:45:39.180 because it'll have a bad outcome it's like yeah that's like yeah that's a harder like that's a

00:45:45.920 harder line to tell but i do think you can look at the married guys who did like the crowders of

00:45:51.260 the world but i do think that you can make the great case though that it will ultimately have

00:45:56.260 a worse outcome for you as you get older that ultimately it'll have a worse outcome on you as

00:46:01.760 an individual it'll have a worse outcome on you as a man to not have children it'll have a worse

00:46:06.240 outcome for you ultimately i think i think i can demonstrate that pretty easily but um but i'm with

00:46:13.020 you and the idea of like you know yeah trying to tell a bunch of 25 year old men not to go fuck

00:46:18.020 everything that moves when it's willing to have sex with it that seems like a tall order i get it

00:46:22.960 but i don't think i don't think for practical purposes um ultimately that that the red pill

00:46:29.940 is right on that i think that that the christian right is more correct on that that the outcomes

00:46:34.040 for most men would be better ultimately served uh and in the short term for society ultimately

00:46:39.640 served by trying to remove promiscuity in these behaviors but if you take like society out of it

00:46:45.200 and go on like an individual basis like if the men that are loyal aren't really getting loyalty

00:46:52.000 back and they're getting divorced it's like where what do they ask you a question are muslim women

00:46:57.520 cheating what do they get like what do they get i'll tell you like i'll tell you yeah in that

00:47:02.580 case you're right yeah right but what about muslim nations are there women cheating yeah i lived in

00:47:07.480 a very muslim area they know nations not not i met men that were from those areas yeah that's

00:47:13.760 they they try to no no yeah and i don't need you guys after me so please don't come after me but

00:47:19.200 i'm not gonna lie all right you guys your women cheat just the same i've met so you think women

00:47:25.500 you think women in afghanistan are cheating as much as women in los angeles i've never been to

00:47:31.080 afghanistan yeah i can't i can't say for sure were they like i i have heard many stories um from men

00:47:38.040 that have visited those countries and a lot of this is pure like a lot of the women that's pure

00:47:42.780 cope listen they're not it's not even the same universe of cheating i would say that this on

00:47:47.460 your new york power is pure cope because the truth is is they're not objectively they're not

00:47:52.740 the punishments are so severe right and the fact that you have to have chaperones even for women

00:47:58.800 to walk around they have to have male chaperones to walk them that's not all the muslim countries

00:48:02.920 i know it's not all of them but even in the ones that are more progressive they're not cheating as

00:48:06.680 much as no way so it's giving a demonstration of like well wait if there is social outcomes so

00:48:11.520 there are ways to govern nations where there's social outcomes for these behaviors it doesn't

00:48:15.940 even need to be that extreme that's way you don't even need to make it where they you know you have

00:48:20.820 to wear a shoe fud can't show you we've had this before in this country it wasn't that long ago

00:48:25.700 right but like we're operating in the country we have now you know what i mean and i just don't

00:48:30.620 think there's any incentive with what we have now and not like what could be or what like you know

00:48:35.840 yeah i'm not you know dealing with the problem with that argument is is like rome was full of

00:48:40.100 a bunch of pedestry and homosexuality and all sorts of gross things right and it did reform

00:48:45.220 eventually right there was some destruction which happened but yeah like the virtues have to

00:48:50.560 necessarily switch so you go from rome to like uh 1800s america 1800s america looks real real

00:48:59.040 straight-laced in comparison to rome right like real straight-laced so it's like this idea of

00:49:04.440 oh you can't put it back in though you can't put the shit back on the horse it's like yeah well

00:49:08.200 i'm not i'm not saying that you can't do it i'm saying i wouldn't bet on it happening anytime

00:49:12.600 soon yeah when gen z women yeah it's a gradual process and so we have to live in the laws that

00:49:19.380 are governed now yeah and i like i think a lot of times what conservatives miss when they say like

00:49:24.200 men shouldn't sleep around i'm like well you have to give them something for it and right now they're

00:49:28.240 saying like do this for nothing and it's just not a good sell well i would say do this in hopes that

00:49:33.860 one day we have afghan laws look i agree well you know but that's not what i'm saying i'm not saying

00:49:39.200 hopefully one day we have afghan laws i'm just pointing out yeah that obviously we can look at

00:49:43.960 so at the social conditions of nations and the social conditions of societies to see where women

00:49:49.240 are doing these things are not doing these things right the western nations is where they're mostly

00:49:52.720 being done that's the primary areas that where sexual liberation is there and this is the primary

00:49:59.060 problem so i would just say this just like it took 80 years for us to get here right it might take

00:50:06.600 just as long to make the gradual transition the other direction you know what i mean but we have

00:50:11.720 some things on our side yeah you're telling like in 80 years you'll get a wife no no i'm not saying

00:50:16.280 in 80 years you get a wife but here's the thing right it's like if we follow your prescription

00:50:22.040 let's just say prescription well let's say i'm saying all i'm asking is the question is what's

00:50:26.520 in it for the guy like if you're gonna sell something if you're gonna sell a prescription

00:50:31.480 which i don't do yeah but i'm saying like you have to answer the question what does he get i think

00:50:36.280 that there are virtuous women that men can still get and that they can practically get them and

00:50:41.960 that they exist all over the place and there's millions of yeah but erin clary's run the numbers

00:50:46.120 on that that's not true like if you calculate yeah i've read erin clary so i've read erin clary's

00:50:50.280 book right but what is if just so you know right one percent of 300 million still three million

00:50:56.520 still a lot of women right and his numbers are not saying one percent are marriageable

00:51:01.160 And what he's giving is he's giving us a spectrum, right?

00:51:04.400 He's saying, look, if you're willing to put up with X,

00:51:07.880 there's going to be 50% of women available for you.

00:51:09.940 If you're willing to put up with Y, there's 30%, right?

00:51:13.220 But if you want a chaste virgin, no tattoo, no trauma,

00:51:16.600 it's a very small percentage.

00:51:17.700 It's like, well, yeah, of course it is.

00:51:19.860 But that probably was,

00:51:21.620 it's probably always been the case in sexual liberation

00:51:24.760 that if you wanted a chaste virgin women,

00:51:27.360 no tattoos, no trauma, that it's going to be a small percentage.

00:51:29.840 Was he been calculated in the study chastity? Yeah, it was that wasn't in there. No, no, he didn't calculate that it was debt. It was it was tattoos. That's true. Yeah. It was obesity. It was I think those are the three main thing. It was number of tattoos, debt and obesity. Oh, see, I calculated in chastity. Yeah, I know. But so he said 1% when you just calculate debt, obesity and you know, so

00:51:56.720 unmarriageable. Yeah. Yeah. From his metrics. Yeah. So yeah. Okay. If you want to pay off a

00:52:01.300 girl's debt, cool. But, and then he didn't even include like sex work. So like, again,

00:52:08.320 it's kind of asking the question, like what's in it for the average guy. I think he did include

00:52:13.760 chastity numbers. Clary did in his book. Now that I'm thinking about it. I don't think he did. I

00:52:19.380 could be wrong. I'll go back and take a look. I have his book, so I'll take a look, but either,

00:52:23.440 either way it doesn't matter yeah but ultimately what i'm saying is like um so so when we're

00:52:29.740 looking at those metrics you're looking at the metrics for marriageable it's like well let me

00:52:33.680 ask you a question what makes you marriageable nothing nothing so nothing makes you marriageable

00:52:39.800 no no no um i mean i have no debt no tattoos i wish i was a little younger but yeah

00:52:46.420 yeah so that's it no tattoos no debt no tattoos um i mean i'm a nice person i can cook um i'd be

00:52:53.240 a good mom yeah yeah yeah so i would say then that if that those are the categories we're looking at

00:52:58.900 like body counts not even in there this and that um when we're talking about debt too how much debt

00:53:04.480 like if you come in a relationship with ten thousand dollars in debt i don't think care

00:53:08.240 i think the average is i think the average is twenty five that's still not bad honestly twenty

00:53:14.460 five thousand dollars yeah but the average guy makes like forty thousand a year yeah and average

00:53:19.000 amount of time it takes off to pay off twenty five thousand dollars of debt if you're hyper

00:53:22.100 focused on it even if you're making right you could say but like this isn't a great sell right

00:53:27.020 like that's what i keep asking like what's in it for the guy now you're saying well you can get a

00:53:31.180 wife but now you know no i'm just what i'm so here's what i'm saying i'm saying you're these

00:53:36.820 things that you say are uh you know very high like don't do it because it's like okay so should i

00:53:43.980 let me ask you a question should i pass on a woman if she's hang on if she's very virtuous

00:53:48.180 and she has she'll give me four children she's super fertile because she has twenty thousand

00:53:51.500 dollars in debt should i pass on her that's up to you yeah but i don't right i don't say i don't

00:53:56.560 say that's the thing about the red pill that gets me it's like but we're but you keep switching it

00:54:00.980 i'm not asking you i'm saying we gotta i'm not saying do it or don't do it i'm saying what's

00:54:05.480 in it for the guy for a virtuous woman and and i'm saying on a balance of probabilities

00:54:10.840 they can't get that and you can't prove it can't prove what how would you know if a woman's

00:54:16.020 virtuous yeah but i mean well how do you know anything how but you're dodging the question

00:54:22.500 like how you're asking you how could you prove that yeah like there's like the same way that

00:54:28.100 you can women women's sex drive starts at like 16 and that's i mean i'm not even gonna go and

00:54:33.780 you know yeah but when you're like so the average woman loses her virginity at 16 the average age

00:54:38.580 of first marriage is like 28 so when you're looking at probabilities right um this is what

00:54:43.640 your your big thing is like let's look at the the average and the inks of probability no i'm just i

00:54:48.980 just wanted to answer the question what's in it for the guy like not not do it despite this that's

00:54:54.180 what would be in it for the guy would be a virtuous woman that would give them children be a good

00:54:58.320 mother to them that's that's that's what they would be moving towards right but on average

00:55:04.300 they're probably not going to get that yeah there's going to be less of them yeah so there's

00:55:08.400 there's all sorts of mitigation strategies one thing is a mitigation strategy is they get brides

00:55:13.280 from elsewhere that seems to work out for some oh no oh no no no you can't do that no you don't

00:55:19.200 you don't like the passport bros no do you know if you bring them back here the one of the worst

00:55:24.040 no no you stay there you stay there yeah but no guy wants to move to like in general like women

00:55:29.020 are 85% of travelers so men in general they don't like to travel like most guys don't like if I had

00:55:35.600 to sell my brothers on move to another country to find a good woman okay so let me get this people

00:55:40.080 don't want to like so uproot their whole life let me get this right so then if I were to follow this

00:55:44.680 if I were to follow Pearl Davis's like entire viewpoint here I just want to make sure I get

00:55:49.060 it right I'll steal man it I'm gonna steal man it go on there's no virtuous women right basically

00:55:54.300 any any well okay basically any there's very few virtuous women and you'd agree that's true i would

00:56:01.600 agree that there's that's true that's like objectively there's not many yeah i would agree

00:56:06.500 that there's less than 50 yes okay for sure okay okay so we're on the same we agree so because of

00:56:13.100 that men right are they're not going to be left with the choice of getting virtuous women so they

00:56:17.940 they just kind of fuck whoever they feel like it because that's what's left to them i'm saying

00:56:23.420 that's already what's happening yeah i know and i'm saying i'm saying if we want but what should

00:56:28.760 happen though well i don't say what should yeah but i'm asking i say what is yeah so i say i can't

00:56:36.020 i i what do we do about that though how does that how's that helpful but my question is it is

00:56:40.980 burning it's like well how do we put it out it but it is burning yeah but but the way you're doing

00:56:45.620 like you're acting as if i have any control over what the world does i i can't control that i i

00:56:51.900 can't i didn't make this society i can't control how the world is right get it so what i'm i just

00:56:59.180 keep asking the question what's in it for the man that would be what would be in it for men

00:57:03.420 and i don't think i don't right but i don't think there are enough virtuous women that that's going

00:57:08.860 to be a good selling point because it can't be verified for one and probability wise it's less

00:57:15.000 than 50 well what's the alternative to it though well it's already what's happening it's why men

00:57:20.340 are like bowing out the sexes are going apart they don't seem like they're happier because

00:57:24.540 they're bowing out they seem like they're happier when they find these verses so let's just say i

00:57:28.460 don't know i've met i've met some older players they they really are not in a bad yeah most guys

00:57:35.340 i talk to play the field when i talk to them privately they're like i wish i yeah i get a

00:57:40.000 different story but let's just assume i'm just gonna assume the world right but right but it's

00:57:44.700 not like the guys married are in a better place overall i mean so many men are in like why do you

00:57:51.060 think we have phrases like happy wife happy life well because of like if if because of sitcoms

00:57:56.540 right but again if if the results were so much better it would be an easy sell yeah but let's

00:58:02.620 just let's just say it's 15 though let's just say it's only 15 of women are virtuous okay okay

00:58:08.060 actually let's just do 10 only 10 of women are virtuous you'd still recommend that women who

00:58:13.580 wanted virtuous men marry those women, right? Sure. Yeah. I mean, sure. Yeah. So you would

00:58:20.660 still want them, but why would you think that they should marry those women? Well, it depends

00:58:25.700 what they want. I don't tell men how to live, right? That's not my place. Like if you as a

00:58:31.680 man want to go off and be by yourself to your 50, I'm not going to tell you that's wrong.

00:58:35.980 Why not? What if it is? Because I don't think it is. Right. So now I don't, I don't, I don't

00:58:42.000 think it's wrong if like for a man to live life if he lives you're a feminist pearl sure wait

00:58:48.640 you're a feminist you're do as thou wilt feminist pearl right but why like why am i to tell a man

00:58:54.160 how to live well you're not telling a man how to live like i think i think that's out of i think

00:58:58.440 that's out of yeah i agree you tell the women how to live you tell those virtuous women they need to

00:59:02.280 marry virtuous men yeah and you think they'll listen good luck well i mean i think that they're

00:59:06.780 more inclined to listen to women than men i don't think so i think so i've i've watched women watch

00:59:12.720 like abortion videos and not care but i mean do and still get one after like do is thou wilt

00:59:18.860 right is that's brutally like when you say i don't well i don't care ultimately right i don't i don't

00:59:24.840 really care i'm like i didn't you should care though because ultimately no i said it's it's

00:59:31.680 out of order for me to tell a guy how to live right i think that's out of order like i don't

00:59:36.280 think that's my place okay but here's what i'm trying to explain yeah if you think those 10

00:59:40.440 percent of women who are virtuous should marry like the 10 or you should get married i said

00:59:46.360 if they want to the women if they i mean they could be nuns if they want they could i it's not

00:59:52.840 my place it's your life forget the nunnery but if they want to get married they shouldn't marry

00:59:56.560 shitbags they should marry virtuous men right if that's what they want if that's what they want

01:00:01.020 yeah okay yeah okay so i mean so if you're just diving into even if they're virtuous you're not

01:00:07.520 sure i'm like even if they're virtuous i'm not sure what they should do that's where i'm like

01:00:11.900 well my again it's not my place like you have to live with the consequences of your actions and i

01:00:19.140 just think a lot of youtubers get like a god complex where they want to tell everyone how to

01:00:23.200 live and it's not my place it's your life yeah but i mean like it's if you you get to live life

01:00:30.560 on your own terms what would you tell would you tell men like not to become trannies

01:00:34.080 i mean if they want to do that i'd rather they didn't see okay there we go i'd rather not

01:00:40.500 they didn't i'd rather not i don't really want to look at them but but let's wait let's keep

01:00:45.460 that combo anyway okay yeah yeah would you tell would you tell uh would you tell men like um so

01:00:52.140 you wouldn't make any recommendations like what if a man was like i want to be a homosexual and

01:00:56.040 have 20 gay lovers well i i could give what i think is right and wrong and that's my personal

01:01:03.920 opinion but that's that's not what i'm here to do i'm here to stick to the facts got it yeah but

01:01:09.300 this is great yeah right so it's not a god complex then so if you're saying i know what's right and i

01:01:14.800 know what's wrong but according to my worldview yeah so you would tailor that worldview though

01:01:20.580 to the outcomes you wanted to see in society that's not a god complex that's just like picking

01:01:24.780 your neighbors right right but i i don't agree because again i think that every man has a right

01:01:31.600 to live life on his own terms and you're kind of dodging the question which ask it directly and i'll

01:01:36.640 give you a guess which is what's in it for the men yeah what's what is in it for him so i'll

01:01:42.380 repeat it again what does a man get out of a out of which thing a marriage yeah yeah what he would

01:01:48.520 get or what he'd be seeking for marriage would be a virtuous non-vexing wife who gave him children

01:01:53.820 was a good mother but we agree that most men aren't going to get that correct we would agree

01:01:58.760 because that's less than 50 yes we would agree that that is correct and until conservatives can

01:02:04.420 answer that question for men it's going to keep going down i'm not saying it's good didn't i just

01:02:09.800 answer the question though what yeah so what what what is it that they're getting out of marriage

01:02:15.080 or what is it that they should be wanting and getting it not should i said what but what are

01:02:19.420 they getting now oh descriptively yeah yeah and that's my that's what i'm getting at yeah no but

01:02:24.680 yeah but we already agree descriptively that's the case what i'm after is the next part where

01:02:30.080 we're like okay so what the fuck we gotta do about this shit that's where i'm at well you maybe you

01:02:36.040 can start and change the laws and whatever i just don't see it happening in my lifetime really you

01:02:42.600 don't think so you don't think there's any possibility that people people can run a social

01:02:46.880 movement to change any of this stuff um i don't see any evidence that it's going to happen yeah

01:02:52.880 i mean the whole economy is run on the female dollar women make it like i always look at it

01:02:59.880 as women you make eight dollars off of women and two dollars off of men yeah for like the pink tax

01:03:04.840 the pink tax no no women make women make 80 percent of consumer buying decisions so there's

01:03:10.780 so many industries that just depend off of women working sure and women spending money

01:03:15.440 and i just don't see it changing i i hope you know i hope you're right it changed well i mean

01:03:20.800 i i hope you're right how does the propaganda work though that gets all the women in the

01:03:24.780 workforce against their will i don't think propaganda can't work to get them but i don't

01:03:28.100 well but i don't think it's propaganda like that i think it's what women want to do women want to

01:03:33.920 do what women wanted to work women didn't want to have kids definitely not and they definitely

01:03:39.420 uh it seems like when i look at the regrets that i hear from women more than anything by the time

01:03:46.300 they hit their 40s was that they did that shit and that they feel like they were completely lied

01:03:50.440 to about it yeah that's what they say but that's kind of like a fat person like saying they want

01:03:55.320 to lose weight but they don't take any steps to like make it happen they don't really want to lose

01:03:59.720 weight i mean that's common like if women you know if women have like we get thousands of options on

01:04:04.380 a dating app yeah right yeah so it's like if you wanted to you would but we don't so what does that

01:04:10.180 tell you it's not what we want to do well sorry wait okay that doesn't follow either it is the

01:04:16.460 case that i want to draw that i wish i was good at art right but i don't really take any steps to get

01:04:21.960 better at art but i still wish i was better at art but if you really wanted to be good at it

01:04:27.300 you'd take steps to do it yeah not necessarily like that doesn't follow for everything you know

01:04:32.700 what i mean like people can envision that they would want a thing or regret not having the thing

01:04:36.660 right but how can you tell what people actually want to do and if they mean something

01:04:41.840 they do it right like if someone really wants to lose weight they take the steps to do it they

01:04:48.660 hire a personal trainer whatever they got to do people can say things right well but i watch what

01:04:53.940 they do but hang on putting something into action doesn't mean it's not a thing you don't want

01:04:58.040 like there's lots of people i know who wish that that they were millionaires they're not taking

01:05:02.040 actions to become millionaires but they still wish they had a million bucks for sure and i don't

01:05:07.120 disbelieve that they really wish they had a million bucks because they're not taking actual

01:05:11.640 steps to get it like that to me doesn't follow i do you just instantly think that they're just

01:05:17.460 yeah if you wanted to you would if you wanted to you would yeah if you wanted to so that's that's

01:05:22.400 how i view it i don't know i just i don't i'm like i don't think it's black like i don't know

01:05:26.620 i'm not jaded but i just look at the way the trends are going and i don't i don't want to like

01:05:31.620 lie or you know um and i'm not i'm not saying you are but i'm saying like to me it would be lying

01:05:38.720 if i said that i don't predict it's going to go this way it's going to get worse yeah yeah but

01:05:44.300 but but i would look at a series of aughts it's like again so when i answer the question i say

01:05:49.960 well i agree with you descriptively you're correct this is bad this is the part of the

01:05:53.660 red pill i agree with descriptively this is bad but then i get to the part where i'm like yeah i

01:05:57.540 see the fire look at that big tower it's on fire yeah i see it too so anyway hey guys you want to

01:06:01.800 like help me put this out they're like no that's you can't just you can't just put out a fire

01:06:07.540 right but would you help put it out if you knew you were going to die in the process and i think

01:06:13.100 that's what a lot of conservative like you know men are nine times more likely to commit suicide

01:06:17.180 after a divorce and the worst um the worst men that i saw actually tell them to gamble on well

01:06:23.600 non-virtuous women right but you don't but women like virtuous right now you don't know what they're

01:06:28.660 gonna do in 10 years you don't know like i one of my biggest donors for the documentary just don't

01:06:32.980 buy a new car because it could break one of my biggest donors for the documentary you know he

01:06:36.920 had a 30-year marriage yeah and now he's gonna work till he's dead because she decided she was

01:06:42.120 virtuous she didn't cheat the whole time that's stupid it's like saying don't buy a car because

01:06:45.660 it might break down i wouldn't say it's the same because if if a car breaks down like you can fix

01:06:52.720 it you can buy a new car yeah but you're not enslaved to the car for 18 years well you are

01:06:58.800 if you bought it with debt right you bought it with debt you're still enslaved to it for x amount

01:07:03.840 of time but the thing is is like look but i wouldn't your chat if you're taking a look at

01:07:07.840 risk mitigation you're supposed to be looking at all these things the details like you buy the new

01:07:12.480 car not knowing that it won't break down because it could but you have enough assured factors that

01:07:17.760 it so likely won't that you feel okay doing it so like trying to create this guarantee of we don't

01:07:23.840 really know if they're faking virtue right at this moment it's like they could be but you're

01:07:28.160 supposed to take all the evidence into consideration and make a better choice on that but two kids is

01:07:32.800 40 of your income for 18 years yeah i mean that's a lot i mean that i mean i again like nobody's

01:07:39.220 answering the question what's in it for the guy to take that risk well because if she if she is

01:07:44.920 she might be virtuous now risk just the risk of marriage itself that's it well i what i'm saying

01:07:50.280 is the conservatives in general they're not going to sell marriage to men even with so-called like

01:07:55.720 virtuous women um because they're not answering they're not giving men enough of an incentive

01:08:01.720 and it's easy to say like we ought to do this i think you could maybe say that like in your

01:08:06.840 i would just mitigate the shit out of everything so you can get a prenuptial agreement you can look

01:08:10.920 for virtuous women but those can be like thrown out and they rarely are and i talked to james

01:08:16.080 sexton live about it and he told me they rarely do the divorce lawyers have an incentive to be

01:08:21.060 honest about that or to lie i don't think james sexton was i really like james i have nothing

01:08:25.460 i have nothing against him but um with lawyers i just am a bit skeptical and the reason being um

01:08:34.560 they're mostly enforced like i checked it out they're mostly enforced prenuptial agreements

01:08:38.740 are mostly enforced i mean that's what they say right um but i just think there's a lot of

01:08:44.440 incentive for divorce lawyers to not be overly honest about that and the other thing that lawyers

01:08:50.160 will tell you is once you have a kid that's really when it switches so you might be okay if you don't

01:08:55.680 have a child but if you have now you're moving away from descriptive truth into like pearl's

01:09:00.820 truth the descriptive truth and the facts on this one are not are not on your side not when it comes

01:09:07.060 to kids because once you have a kid like prenups definitely work right no but you might say they're

01:09:14.520 enforced but a lot of times the terms are changed that's not uncommon sometimes the terms are

01:09:19.260 that's true but most of the time prenups are enforced and uh women who sign prenups are way

01:09:25.320 less likely to violate their duties in the marriage because they don't want to lose whatever the thing

01:09:30.000 is right but you don't know how the women are going to be in the future right so like there

01:09:35.620 might be like we're talking about gen z women i would say young millennials that are really on

01:09:40.420 the market and you have no like you can't say that they're less likely to like yeah it would

01:09:44.960 be like this is the this is the first group of women that grew up on social media so if i had

01:09:50.380 to predict it i would guess that they would be worse because i don't think social media has made

01:09:56.140 relationships better they're gonna get married less like altogether but even even right but

01:10:01.920 even the ones that do get married they can download a dating app they can cheat on instagram

01:10:06.040 like you so and i'm not saying if a man wants to get married i would never talk him out look i think

01:10:11.440 all of the incentives against secular marriage are in your favor like i'm not disputing descriptively

01:10:17.400 all of the of the ideas for secular marriage are definitely in your favor but they're they're not

01:10:24.160 in your favor when it comes to religious marriage they're not in your favor if it is the case you

01:10:28.260 keep the state out of it got married by the church had a prenuptial agreement you can really protect

01:10:32.660 yourself pretty well for most of these mitigating factors and get that virtuous woman you're after

01:10:37.500 right but there's no god in divorce court and so the worst divorce that i saw was there's prenups

01:10:42.680 the worst no the worst divorce that i know second one no they were both religious actually

01:10:49.380 one was um the two worst divorce i saw one was from the same church that michael knowles goes

01:10:54.560 How are they getting a divorce, though, if they got married through through a party other than the state?

01:10:59.520 They couldn't have gotten divorced. Right. But once you have a kid, you're entered into the like once once you have a child, you're entered into the state regardless.

01:11:07.940 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So custody, though. Yeah. And then for child support. Correct. But but here's the thing.

01:11:12.900 It's interesting there. You can still write mitigation for that in a prenuptial agreement, even when it comes to child support.

01:11:19.660 And they're mostly enforced. Right. You you can. But again, what's the incentive?

01:11:24.560 Well, the incentive that men would be receiving on the end is, I don't believe, as you do, that you just can't get married to women because there's no virtuous women.

01:11:35.720 But assuming even there's a very small percentage, I would still recommend that men find virtuous women, get married to them, and the incentive that they get is families and this and that.

01:11:44.340 Do I think you can't mitigate all those risks?

01:11:46.280 I think you can and should.

01:11:47.520 Well, I'm in the business of predicting, right?

01:11:49.760 I like to predict where things are going.

01:11:51.720 And so when I do that, I have to put myself in someone else's shoes.

01:11:55.940 And that's what I'm trying to get at when I keep asking you this question is what's in it for men?

01:12:02.300 And I don't think until conservatives can like if I saw a difference.

01:12:06.440 And we said earlier, there's no difference between liberal and conservative.

01:12:09.320 I guess maybe I just don't understand what you're asking, because I feel like I keep giving you a great answer.

01:12:14.240 But then you just re-ask the question.

01:12:16.220 So what is the what is the question you're actually in?

01:12:19.200 what are men getting out of marriage that would move them towards marriage well i just i was

01:12:23.700 trying to i thought you would agree with me on this actually so i was kind of it's kind of

01:12:27.540 interesting rubbing it back and forth like well i agree with you on secular marriage i think that

01:12:32.240 that's generally speaking i wouldn't i wouldn't tell people to go and get secular marriage i think

01:12:36.580 that that's probably a recipe for disaster but when i look at all the data i look at shows me

01:12:41.340 this if you're heavily religious and you move towards a woman who has virtues and you can

01:12:46.960 associate the virtues with things like chastity other things like this and then you you mitigate

01:12:51.380 it by a keeping the state out of it and then b having some type of prenuptial agreement even a

01:12:57.180 relationship agreement right which are also enforceable but if even if you got married

01:13:02.160 through the state and you had a prenup you're pretty i mean you're way ahead of the curve on

01:13:06.320 this like women are way more inclined to behave and everything else if that's in place i totally

01:13:11.300 agree that they're ahead of the curve and they're way better than a guy that didn't predict that

01:13:15.480 at all um i also agree that that's probably the better route to go if they're gonna go down that

01:13:21.620 route yeah i just don't think what's your incentive to fuck a bunch of different hoes

01:13:26.060 just that it's fun yeah like it's just fun come on so so i mean it seems like it seems like all

01:13:32.200 the incentives are in my side no what's the incentive dumb sex with a bunch of different

01:13:37.160 women hoes yeah because men like hot women yeah but i mean 5 000 so so i mean so you're just

01:13:44.380 saying that the incentive is like funsies me's me's me's me's more funsies i would say that's

01:13:49.280 the incentive but that's a terrible message ultimately right but i'm not saying it's again

01:13:53.220 i'm in the business of predicting yeah but even on the predictive message by the time by the time

01:13:57.760 these men are in their 30s and 40s they're not after funsies hoes that's not what most men are

01:14:02.800 at at that age they want to settle down have wife and kids usually 10 years younger yeah they want

01:14:07.680 10 years younger so it so it's it would make sense for them to fuck her out until she graduates

01:14:12.480 yeah but even if even if i were to grant that to just like oh 20 years 20 years go so your wild

01:14:17.660 notes if ultimately you're gonna get married you're still gonna be moving towards woman of

01:14:21.740 virtue prenup all no no totally totally i totally agree but yeah like i i was just asking i think

01:14:27.520 there's better incentive for men to get married than there is to play the field for sure your

01:14:31.620 stds are a big problem right huge problem other problem is women are fucking crazy they baby trap

01:14:37.820 you they do all kinds of crazy ass shit right but when you have men like crowder who get the

01:14:42.140 virgin wife with a note and i i mean we know we i love crowder but like he got the picture perfect

01:14:47.640 wife that like they were on the cover of magazines whatever yeah and she ruined his life men are

01:14:53.020 gonna look at that and you're gonna say well what's the difference the difference is tactical

01:14:56.940 mistakes which were made the idea of prenuptial agreements like let's say this but it wasn't the

01:15:02.480 prenup it was the leaked footage to the press right that was probably the worst like the worst

01:15:06.560 part about a divorce prenuptial agreements they can't release things to the rest even oh yeah

01:15:10.860 like that stopped it it's not a joke you really can actually saint claire was offered 10 million

01:15:16.080 dollars and she still couldn't shut up i bet you that they wasn't in the agreement i bet it wasn't

01:15:22.280 in the agreement if she violated it and elon musk enforced it i bet you it would get enforced the

01:15:26.700 thing is it's like high profile high status men i've seen the types of agreements that they make

01:15:31.800 with women and they are insane they're 300 pages long cover their whole empire covers all sorts of

01:15:38.240 things but even average guys can have a lawyer draft up a prenuptial agreement which will which

01:15:43.560 will greatly mitigate this damage which is done if a woman is faking virtue can women fake virtue

01:15:49.360 of course right could they switch in 10 years could they just like lose their shit become

01:15:53.880 lunatics yeah it's always a good idea to have that in and here's the thing i would ask you back

01:15:58.700 isn't it always better to have one than not yeah it's like a gun no i as i said earlier if they're

01:16:05.280 going to go down that route yeah i totally think the way i think every incentive i think the way

01:16:10.620 that you're describing yeah if if they're going to go down that route they're going to go down

01:16:14.980 that route i think if the incentives were there more men would do it but i don't well men want

01:16:20.380 kids so you know they're not gonna they don't having kids with hoes is a recipe for disaster

01:16:25.300 you know what i mean having kids with a wife and having prenuptial agreements these types

01:16:31.580 agreements in place the vetting for virtue in place way better i mean what are you gonna do

01:16:36.280 just go like impregnate some chick like ashley st claire how'd that work it didn't work out

01:16:40.960 terrible idea he has way too much money yeah to not have a vetting process i'm like elon let me

01:16:49.100 do it exactly i'm like i'll put the hose right here and i'm like but i i just don't think that

01:16:55.000 the idea of like i'm not saying they should or they shouldn't i think if men want kids they

01:16:59.360 have a right to go do that. And the way you're describing is great. But I think that if I had

01:17:06.300 to predict where things are going to go, I think it's going to disappear. Because especially from

01:17:11.840 the middle class marriage, I think it's really just going to be for the elite and the rich.

01:17:15.980 Well, I'm going to do everything in my power in the interim time as the lowly YouTuber who I can't

01:17:21.420 do much to try to at least assist with the mitigation and the entire fall of the West,

01:17:27.320 which i i actually still love the west yeah and i still love the country that i'm in surprisingly

01:17:32.460 i still do yeah and the people who are in it i don't want to see men uh suffer horrid you know

01:17:38.400 these kind of horrid fates which happen when there is actually a lot of mitigation they could do to

01:17:42.960 take care of that and then when you say there's no selling point it's like i hear the opposite

01:17:47.140 when i see the guys who are like oh yeah i spent my 20s and 30s doing drugs getting high and banging

01:17:51.440 chicks every one of them ends up in front of that old rugged cross going i wish i hadn't done that

01:17:56.520 and it had instead focused on a family you say oh i've met some players who say the opposite

01:18:01.040 where are they i haven't met them they're not in my discord you have i mean um like troy francis

01:18:06.780 he's happy guy oh come on he's also simmo he's a feminist i threw he admitted to me live that he

01:18:14.100 was absolutely a feminist it's like yeah i told you before left-wing men they're the primary

01:18:19.820 beneficiaries of promiscuous women because they want that well i think that the only solution

01:18:25.400 to feminism is more feminism when women start getting treated like men and having the consequences

01:18:30.260 that men have like that's when i i think and you might think otherwise but i think that no i agree

01:18:35.020 with that yeah i don't think that's more feminism though i think it's just i i think that the idea

01:18:40.300 of female accountability went from they're a witch burn them accountability to to now like

01:18:49.060 they can do no wrong right and i i'm i think accountability is great and necessary it's the

01:18:54.980 only way to fix ultimately what this issue is is allowing accountability to happen but i don't

01:18:59.900 think that has anything to do with feminism i think it has to do with patriarchy good patriarchies

01:19:04.880 allow for female accountability and we've just like gotten away from that because of the

01:19:09.660 what simpocalypse i call it simpidemic you call it yeah so so what would you if you were in charge

01:19:16.060 what would you oh i don't make prescriptive statements i just look at things that are

01:19:20.040 burning and say, let it, you know, I, I mean, that's what I, you're the, you're the prescriptor.

01:19:26.180 I'm the describer. You're the prescriptor. What was the, what was the, you're a man. That's what

01:19:29.660 you should be doing. That's right. That's right. That's fair. What's the, uh, what's the, so like

01:19:33.260 if you were in charge, like, what would you do? I would start a top-down propaganda campaign. If

01:19:37.560 I was the unilateral, like dictator of the United States government, I would start a top-down

01:19:42.480 propaganda campaign and spend about 10% of my GDP on it, tearing down every single billboard

01:19:47.920 erecting ones all over the nation tearing down every bit of lgbtq pro-feminist uh you know

01:19:52.880 ideology anywhere i could find it replace it with the family unit everywhere you looked

01:19:58.240 and do a mass promotion of this right everywhere they were starting when they were in their school

01:20:03.280 years and i would do it i'd run it for 30 years and i guarantee you a lot of this problem would

01:20:09.680 begin to shift very very very quickly so that's the very first thing that i would start with

01:20:15.600 uh if you wanted like more prescriptions than that i would get rid of gay marriage i would

01:20:20.120 get rid of divorce i would get rid i mean the amount of things that i would get rid of unilaterally

01:20:24.480 day one would be overwhelming would you ever sorry would you ever um run for office because

01:20:32.820 you actually have like a real background unlike most youtubers yeah i would i would i think people

01:20:39.340 would actually vote for you you wouldn't run i would get shot i think i really believe that i

01:20:44.680 would i think i would well the thing is is like i would show up to to these debates right and i

01:20:51.780 would cut oh my god yeah i think i would get very run for that yeah i think i would get very popular

01:20:57.240 very quickly but the thing is is like i i think i would get shot really yeah yeah and i also think

01:21:05.740 that what i do right now is in some ways more effective the crucible acts as like a special

01:21:10.940 forces we get where people aren't and deliver those messages to like tommy lauren and the rest

01:21:15.840 of them which i agree look here's the thing for the audience because this kind of turned into a

01:21:20.120 debate we descriptively agree on a lot yeah we really do it's the prescriptions that we start

01:21:26.360 to that's where we really start to deviate where i'm like look i think we can do some stuff to

01:21:30.880 start to put this out and that men collectively have way more power than you think i'm black

01:21:34.540 you're right i know you're just black-pilled but we got to try to i don't know how you're not

01:21:39.400 i'm not because because when i hear the feedback when i hear the feedback from thousands from the

01:21:46.580 thousands thousands of people contact me it's the opposite they're like look when i shifted my

01:21:50.920 priority to start looking for the things i consider virtue to be i started to see that

01:21:55.680 there's a whole different arena of women who actually are available i didn't know what you

01:22:00.040 know what i was even what i was even really trying for so i think you're right it's a matter of goals

01:22:05.020 what's a goal one i think i think men do want to have a family and i don't think that playing the

01:22:09.480 playing the field is not very satisfying for very long like oh well yeah it's exhausting yeah yeah

01:22:14.660 for what one year two years and then okay that's old you know what i mean so yeah they tend to want

01:22:21.260 to gravitate towards success and family ultimately and this is every one of these major red pillars

01:22:26.160 i talk to on the side tell me this so do you know what i'll tell you what black pilled me with that

01:22:32.220 i mean there is just a lot of um people that say they want monogamy um like commentators and stuff

01:22:42.020 a lot of them are cheating on their wives of course like a lot of course and so it's like

01:22:45.940 same thing with preachers right they'll be like no homosexuality is wrong and then they get

01:22:49.700 sucking a dick in a parking lot no no no no exactly so it's like if that's what they wanted

01:22:55.020 why is it like why aren't they doing it yeah i agree so it kind of i won't lie blackpilled me

01:22:59.980 even more yeah so how are you not blackpilled with like you do probably because i don't cheat

01:23:06.540 you do that's right you don't cheat on my way but like like not with that i meant with the

01:23:12.260 eight hour debates you do how do you sorry i'm like because i listen i try to listen to the

01:23:20.180 totality of the collective people contacting after and a lot of them are actually women

01:23:24.700 yeah they're like look there's actually a lot you say here that's that's pretty hard to get away from

01:23:31.060 when it's when it's kind of logically explained and you know like a lot of them actually start

01:23:36.280 with me and my husband got into a fight over over this and you know you're kind of right about it

01:23:41.940 the thing is, is, um, I understand the idea of asking the question, which feels unanswerable.

01:23:48.560 Like, what do we do about the fact that descriptively you're right? There's less

01:23:52.700 virtuous women likely than there are men and much smaller numbers. Right. And more men are going to

01:23:59.160 want to get married than, than are going to be able to get married to good women. But here's

01:24:02.800 the thing. Classically in history, you know, this as well, very few men ever got to reproduce anyway.

01:24:08.180 yeah that's true it was very very small the amount of men who ever got to reproduce in the first

01:24:13.320 place so we're not really all that far off anyhow that's totally right i almost think it's like

01:24:17.860 nature correcting itself it is well i call it the great correction yeah the birth rate is great it's

01:24:23.180 part of a great correction the thing is you're like what do you do about a problem which is

01:24:27.000 correcting itself for me i'm like don't be black billed because there's still good millions and

01:24:35.040 millions of good women there really are well i'm optimistic for my life but i just i look at the

01:24:40.340 trends and i'm like well i i think this is where it's like i've had women also contact me and say

01:24:46.280 you know things but i just don't believe them because i've seen because you're so black billed

01:24:53.000 yeah no i've seen women say things and like how often do we really meet them look and you're

01:24:58.060 right when you look at the trends there's a lot there lauren southern said things and she banged

01:25:02.760 destiny but there is a lot there blue-eyed blonde arian but hang on hang on in my defense in my

01:25:09.760 defense yeah no god god haven't i been right about basically everything i've ever told you to do no

01:25:14.760 i know you've been right about a lot so i hope you're right i'm not been right about i didn't

01:25:19.020 mean to turn it into a debate i thought we were going to agree but like debates but but yeah the

01:25:23.800 thing is is um we do actually agree yeah on a lot of the trends and how a lot of them are going to

01:25:29.180 be going for a little while right but where i deviate is like there seems to be yes there is

01:25:34.820 a correction going on most men traditionally were never able to reproduce anyhow and ultimately

01:25:39.480 we're in a position right now where yes you can you you actually can find virtuous women and you

01:25:45.020 should probably have as many children with them as you can outbreed the other side completely

01:25:49.720 destroy them in every mechanism but it's going to take a while it's not going to be fast so but

01:25:53.920 what's yours like what about the men that the women don't select for marriage what are they

01:25:58.160 supposed to do the same thing that men always did when they weren't selected the thing well the same

01:26:03.080 things that men always did when they weren't selected they joined the military they became

01:26:05.980 celibate this type of thing and that was most that's a tough that was most men that's a tough

01:26:11.260 sell they're gonna how is it a tough sell when that's all of human history so you don't get to

01:26:15.100 reproduce anyways and you're telling the guys be celibate or bang hose and not reproduce but how

01:26:20.800 is it they're like one they don't get they get to watch but this refutes your argument not mine

01:26:25.720 which one you agree with me that throughout all of human history if we look at it correct

01:26:30.160 most men could not reproduce yes so why all of a sudden are they supposed to pearl well what no

01:26:35.200 what i'm saying i'm not saying they should or they shouldn't i know you're gonna you're gonna

01:26:38.860 you're gonna make fun of me yeah they can't but they never could some guys are selected for sex

01:26:43.380 but they're not selected for children sure yeah like the women will abort their kids so those

01:26:47.320 guys like what's the incentive you get to be celibate the rest of your life or you get to

01:26:51.340 bang what was their incentive 300 years ago um well it probably wasn't as easy right so well

01:26:57.520 yeah so now they can just dial on instagram well before you didn't have monogamy so i mean now

01:27:03.280 women are going to have to make these select and they had to right for a long time especially when

01:27:08.120 they were social pariahs but it's like you can't go well so for some reason modern man needs to

01:27:13.900 have more choices than his ancestors 400 years ago had it's like why the truth of the matter is

01:27:19.100 It's like attractions, attraction, resources are resources.

01:27:21.800 Correct.

01:27:21.980 Women are going to go for men they're attracted to and have resources.

01:27:24.140 Well, that's why I said I think marriage is going to just be for the upper class.

01:27:28.480 Well, look, that's not the case.

01:27:30.800 I think it's disappearing from the middle class.

01:27:33.500 It's not disappearing for the poor.

01:27:35.260 It is not disappearing.

01:27:36.460 Well, it is actually.

01:27:37.340 It's more disappearing for the rich now.

01:27:39.560 The rich it's more disappearing for.

01:27:41.120 I'd have to double check.

01:27:42.600 I'm pretty sure it's more common for the upper class than the middle class.

01:27:46.580 The upper class, yes.

01:27:47.540 The very rich, no.

01:27:49.100 the very rich no upper class sure but upper class would now be what you would consider upper class

01:27:54.440 was middle class well i guess what do you what do you like what bracket are you talking about

01:27:59.980 yeah so when i'm talking about the super rich right or elitist rich um we're talking about a

01:28:05.880 million plus dollars per year okay right it's a very small very very small number now what you're

01:28:11.480 talking about is like the college grads with a combined income of you know 125 or 130 plus yes

01:28:17.200 that is the case that there's trends and upticks from and even those marriages staying longer they

01:28:22.540 have more longevity even uh i think it's because of other factors but i won't even get into it

01:28:28.400 but ultimately i don't think it's the idea of marriage is only going to be for the overclass

01:28:34.520 well my point is more a lot of men aren't selected for it anyway yeah right so but for those men like

01:28:41.200 they're like it's not going to be a selling point to them to be celibate forever they're just going

01:28:45.680 to run through hoes no i well listen listen i agree but they're getting selected then right

01:28:50.920 for sex but like they'll just abort their kids yeah i know they're not getting selected for

01:28:55.700 reproduction but most men never were so no no i'm not i'm not saying but like my point is you know

01:29:01.560 you're just not going to sell them on celibacy forever yeah yeah good luck yeah you wouldn't

01:29:07.160 you wouldn't sell them on celibacy forever right but you could sell women on celibacy forever if

01:29:11.640 If it were the case that they thought they'd become social pariahs, how do I know?

01:29:18.740 Because I can look back a hundred years and see it.

01:29:21.400 They got the scarlet fucking letter.

01:29:23.240 They got shaved bald.

01:29:24.340 They got messed up.

01:29:25.300 They got turned into social pariahs for doing it.

01:29:27.740 Yeah, I just don't see that happening in any time soon.

01:29:33.000 Why?

01:29:33.760 I mean, women are putting their buttholes on the internet and now get to be Jesus preachers.

01:29:38.380 Yeah, but again, if you can go...

01:29:40.420 As we saw.

01:29:41.200 if you can go you can get tag teamed on camera and then be a jesus but if you can go from the

01:29:45.760 worst societies on earth to some of the most straight laced it's like we've seen that happen

01:29:50.480 multiple times i hope it does i just have to go off of what i've seen in my lifetime right and

01:29:56.640 i've heard like i i'm an og conservative daily wire watcher and i felt a bit lied to because

01:30:03.360 they would kind of sell me that this is coming and then time went by and there's no indication

01:30:08.720 that it is well they weren't moving towards anything either well i mean totally true yeah

01:30:12.520 like i would love to see and look you got to debate these how would they let me there but

01:30:17.700 they don't know you're way bigger like descriptively it is the case that again most of

01:30:24.480 these things you're saying are true yeah but it's it's we know this now where do we go do i have all

01:30:29.840 the answers fuck no i don't have all the answers not even close but at least we should be looking

01:30:33.740 at them those guys won't even look at them they won't even look at a single one of them

01:30:38.420 as as issues they're just like this is just isn't even happening you know even um who's the the

01:30:45.300 latest one the uh the guy who did all the the tea stuff uh matt walsh even he as he's starting to

01:30:52.060 kind of move a little bit more towards this even he still won't acknowledge that many of the

01:30:56.120 fundamental things you're talking about right when it comes to hypergamy things like this

01:31:00.160 are in fact happening via the trends lines i agree with that but the question becomes how do

01:31:05.260 we combat that and what do we do about that i do think propaganda can be a very useful tool

01:31:09.900 and i think that the christian right has way more at their disposal than you think especially with

01:31:15.260 legalization criminalization of various things look at what decriminalizing drugs did you think

01:31:20.620 that that didn't make marijuana popular everywhere when they decriminalized it they were like

01:31:24.100 nope it's only going to be the people who still smoke marijuana and now they're just going to be

01:31:28.480 able to not go to jail for it it didn't do that it completely popularized it everywhere it

01:31:33.860 popularized it everywhere so if you decriminalize prostitution and of and things like that does the

01:31:39.020 same shit it popularizes it i know but there's just so much in like i still think back to eight

01:31:44.980 dollars or two dollars i don't think there's any incentive for them to do any of these things

01:31:49.780 because they either need the female voting block or they need the eight dollars from women that's

01:31:56.000 why i don't predict yeah yeah yeah so like you know the daily wire i'm sure their biggest donors

01:32:01.900 um are either well i'm sure there's rich donors i know there's like the brothers or whatever

01:32:08.240 um talking about the brothers you know i know there's some brothers that fund the daily wire

01:32:14.580 i don't know if it's the coke brothers not maybe i don't know some some rich guys but

01:32:19.260 i would guess they get a good amount of money or a significant enough amount of money from women

01:32:25.120 somehow i don't know how i don't know if it's their memberships their documentaries the housewives

01:32:29.980 they're selling to there's some because they're not being honest and whenever i see people like

01:32:35.040 lying i can always guess that there's a woman yeah yeah yeah which is somehow a woman like

01:32:41.540 the ads for i mean you know on youtube the ads for women it's like you get like two female viewers

01:32:47.520 and you can make so much money off yeah yeah just because the demographic like do i want to make 20

01:32:53.860 percent of my income or 80 percent like most people are just yeah i think though yeah that's

01:32:59.520 why i'm blackpilled i'm like why would i would just in in the conversation this way i would say

01:33:04.120 don't be so blackpilled while it's true that the that a lot of the data trends look bad i can show

01:33:10.480 you times in history where they've looked a lot worse really what time in history you mean for

01:33:15.040 for which nation sure no i'm just so i mean if we were to go back and we were to look at um the

01:33:21.740 soviet union for instance right and we saw what happened to their population they decimated it

01:33:26.440 with abortion right you can see that there's recoveries that went on and are still going on

01:33:31.760 they're still ongoing and it's like some of these things have a way of equalizing themselves over

01:33:36.580 time you know they they just do so it's like yeah it sucks that you're in the generation that this

01:33:41.700 happens to but you can still make good political progress towards solutions to these issues

01:33:47.020 i hope you're right yeah you know i hope i just wouldn't bet on it yeah

01:33:52.620 i just if i was a betting woman not with that attitude

01:33:56.600 you know all right let me go through super chats really quick do you mind scrolling up

01:34:01.740 wow your your people are very generous this is the most super chats we've gotten in a while

01:34:11.580 yeah they're uh they're awesome it's because i haven't been over grifting them lately usually

01:34:16.040 and i'll and you know i haven't even got i just got home from my trip last night and then made

01:34:20.960 the trip out here okay so i haven't even had a chance to go live explain to him my trip all the

01:34:25.140 grifting because it was like well i got to go out and talk with pearl now it's the pearl davis

01:34:28.980 andrew wilson debate i guess so that's what i'm sorry i'm all for it okay um if liberal women are

01:34:36.580 coca-cola conservative women are diet coke go down candace owens husband is worth over 150 million

01:34:43.120 dollars she doesn't have to work she could stay home with her kids but she doesn't candace is a

01:34:47.460 grifter and to the ultimate degree go down i feel like the red pill was blown on a proportion and

01:34:53.240 now a lot of red pill communities have become the equivalent of the woke left some have that's true

01:34:57.880 um nathan for the grift thanks clue studios you were great on punchy tv andrew was great on pierce

01:35:06.800 what's punchy tv i don't know briar wolf thanks for the big hundred though yeah thank you brian

01:35:12.760 wolf crucible crew um after one sheep not even 30 yet and have a wife and three kids at 20 the

01:35:19.780 differences uh to the next is that we took a commitment at the church very seriously the

01:35:24.820 actual wedding day activities were the least of the concern yeah but pearl thinks she's faking

01:35:29.840 pearl thinks she's gonna change on a dime in five years it's over but i've seen i've seen

01:35:35.280 very religious women change on a dot look i've seen look i'm not saying it doesn't happen i'm

01:35:40.520 just saying don't you think that that's a better mitigation for risk ultimately

01:35:44.180 that's what we're looking no I agree with you on that we're just looking for

01:35:48.840 risk mitigation right all right it's pretty awesome getting both of you to

01:35:51.720 chat I love you both don't tear each other's heads off no it's all in good

01:35:55.280 fun pearls have been a close personal friend and will remain so now get Jake

01:36:00.080 yeah you guys are the best now get Jake and Jim Bob in the same room I only need

01:36:05.400 to go to one place yeah that's true doug mpa agrees with you that's my moderator he says

01:36:11.540 gen alpha men are going to be based the women are going to still be

01:36:14.560 gen alpha men are um going to disengage from the u.s women and get passports go down possible

01:36:23.000 um andrew is an absolute legend protect this man at all costs alex b usually agree with andrew but

01:36:28.740 his argument just do it bro kind of sounds like conservative women hardly that was not my argument

01:36:33.760 at all alex b was just okay this one's gonna go for me it's all right pearl you're too blackpilled

01:36:38.960 i'm single and depressed but be uh be lucky to have what andrew is describing um i believe um

01:36:48.440 ken kim cam says i believe what pearl's saying here is try convincing power to give up power

01:36:53.180 women in society today are drunk with power is her point um peter art yeah but i wouldn't i

01:36:59.660 wouldn't dispute that is Andrew and alpha beta or other ultimate alpha right yeah I don't go for

01:37:07.440 the the alpha hierarchy but not not my thing no I know it's tough um but of course I'm a fucking

01:37:14.140 okay um love Andrew and Pearl but I agree with Pearl um ways to protect yourself yes Andrew

01:37:22.940 the uphill battle to protect yourself isn't appealing or an incentive for marriage Peter

01:37:27.640 ortiz marry me pearl what's so well hang on i think um like it's very bizarre to me because

01:37:33.980 i know that i did not make that argument so i don't know why that's what you're going after

01:37:39.960 well i think it was my argument was descriptively this is correct prescriptively it's wrong

01:37:44.560 and and you would have to concede that these mitigations do work and that if men want to

01:37:50.220 have families are going to have to marry women what kind of women are you going to marry

01:37:53.560 so I don't even know what's what's there to dispute very cool to see two greats here redeeming

01:38:00.220 the culture I think virtue can be discerned knowledge of the past friends family social

01:38:05.100 media it's very telling with good counsel can determine and a PI Pearl's point is example if

01:38:11.760 85 percent of men are marriageable society still surviving and 85 percent of women are not

01:38:17.380 marriageable birth rates are low that is not incentive that is not enough incentivizing

01:38:22.260 women to turn things around.

01:38:23.260 Yeah, but then it wouldn't need to, right?

01:38:24.440 Without propaganda, oh, look, I read the end, and then you can go.

01:38:27.780 Without propaganda, you can't change the culture and controlling majority of advertisements.

01:38:32.200 You can't change the culture.

01:38:33.700 Women's buying power controls advertising, in my opinion.

01:38:37.840 A collapse is a must.

01:38:39.360 Yeah, so you've got a couple things wrong.

01:38:41.320 One, yes, propaganda can change the buying culture of women.

01:38:44.540 We've seen it happen before.

01:38:46.000 It was done during the Vietnam War, in fact, and during the Korean War.

01:38:49.280 so yes I can look at wartime propaganda and see how much you can change the patterns of how women

01:38:54.460 behave and how men behave also the the second point that I would mitigate off of when you say

01:39:00.460 well wait a second if 85 percent of women aren't getting married or having children it's like well

01:39:05.360 that's a self-correcting problem then if they're not having children not reproducing it would still

01:39:09.840 be the men who would have the virtuous women they'd be reproducing those would be the men who

01:39:13.460 would be controlling the future right women exile liberation is fun if you're single um a pre

01:39:20.080 independent aqua says a previous tenant to gay rights advocacy group the group said they didn't

01:39:25.840 want gay marriages but this was still their way to fight the tax benefits of christian advocacy

01:39:31.360 groups this was in canada canada um doug mpa says the wilkes brothers fund the daily wire

01:39:37.100 crimson king black pill is the word i'm sorry i am black pilled i'll own it proceeds to state uh

01:39:46.080 the house is on fire and watches it burn down and complain about the water um with the water

01:39:51.400 house hose right next to them yeah well i mean the question is is there a reward for doing that

01:39:57.680 and right now i just don't see that there's a reward like if you stop it from crashing and

01:40:02.020 burning what do they get they have a building not fall on their head no i meant like for them

01:40:07.340 to help their neighbor's house that's on fire yeah so i mean like right now society doesn't

01:40:12.900 reward you for doing like tireless jobs and like like stopping everything from crashing and burning

01:40:18.040 so there's no incentive so you definitely get rewarded for doing dangerous ass jobs for sure

01:40:23.340 money well then why aren't young men doing them because there's other there's a well they are

01:40:28.600 doing them trades are making a huge comeback like there there's no doubt but i meant like younger

01:40:33.320 men are dropping out of the workforce and yeah yeah and for participation yeah yeah and everybody's

01:40:38.860 asking why and i'm saying they're asked there it's because they're asking the question what's

01:40:43.140 in it for me i'm not going to get a wife i'm not like why do it yeah well i think it's because they

01:40:47.700 live at home for longer periods of time don't have to get a job is why you see less of them

01:40:51.980 participating that would be the the big correlate i would see but when they are participating

01:40:56.220 they're definitely moving towards much more dangerous jobs than they were in the past

01:41:01.460 well i would no but they're staying at home because they don't see an incentive to move out

01:41:06.940 right what's the or they can't afford to move out that's a big one like they they tend to stay at

01:41:12.680 home like 22 23 24 because it's really expensive i mean i talk to younger men on in the discords

01:41:20.040 all the time they're like 21 22 and they're like i'm just putting a bunch of money away so i can

01:41:23.620 move out yeah um rachel rachel wilson says hedonism hedonism gets old quick people want

01:41:31.240 meaning and purpose men have more power than they realize the long lens of history proves

01:41:36.000 that the current situation will not last forever because it's unsufferable love you both we love

01:41:40.840 you rachel unsustainable pearl oh my gosh i'm not unsufferable oh sorry my bad sorry guys

01:41:48.520 um takeaway women's rights that's the answer not all women not all women youtube friendly

01:41:55.940 uh punchy oh punchy tv that's jesse lee peterson's show love you both yeah that was fun

01:42:01.980 i really enjoyed that yeah the one guy said he didn't agree with

01:42:05.920 prenups and i just called him a simp amazing

01:42:09.160 um okay go on punchy tv is jesse lee peterson's network um look at the support they're throwing

01:42:18.400 the grift lord uh could you um where there is grift there is still hope it might take a while

01:42:25.120 but starts with taking not one step back correct is that it yeah okay thank you guys that was very

01:42:32.520 generous thank you so much yeah appreciate it very much um well that was a fun back and forth

01:42:38.640 did you have fun yeah of course thank you for having me yeah thanks for coming on thanks to

01:42:42.320 the crucible crew for coming out showing support tonight it looked like uh you had four and a half

01:42:46.660 5k viewers something like that yeah this was awesome good um thanks so much for coming you've

01:42:52.040 been a long time friend of the show so i do appreciate you coming on of course do you have

01:42:55.740 any final words do you want to tell my black-pilled audience i will tell you guys this

01:42:59.420 obviously i'm completely right in everything i said girl got totally fucking blown out it was

01:43:04.520 super easy she deserved every bit of it subscribe to the crucible get there right now it's fucking

01:43:10.300 awesome we do i you know again um descriptively she's right about most everything that she's

01:43:17.200 saying i'm not disputing any of that so it's where we move into the prescriptions where we

01:43:21.440 start to tangle up and i think if more of those right-wing conservatives would do that pearl would

01:43:25.740 hate them far less yeah thank you so much so also um thank you for i feel like you get a lot of shit

01:43:32.420 for being friends with me so i do get tons yeah so i do they're always like what are you gonna

01:43:36.600 roll over on pearl well you know what they do they're always like i don't ever see you debate

01:43:40.380 any of her ideas what did i just do yeah and but but for some reason if i do that that means i must

01:43:46.280 preclude any sort of interpersonal relationship or friendship with her uh who she's been friends

01:43:51.860 with my family it's like yeah right screw that yeah are you gonna denounce me no yes yes but i'm

01:44:00.300 gonna do a big announcement when i get home it'll take me a couple weeks to get it all together so

01:44:03.760 just wait for it's coming cool also guys um andrew filmed some content for the behind the paywall

01:44:10.600 which is how to be a real christian conservative and not a fake one right i didn't do the fake one

01:44:17.320 yet oh you didn't do the fake one i got to the other one first oh okay how to be a real christian

01:44:21.780 which is basically me saying i don't know but she asked me i'm terrible at it i wanted the

01:44:29.180 prescriptions right yeah the prescriptions right okay guys um look at all the support worth oh i

01:44:35.500 read that okay thanks for watching guys please like the video subscribe to the channel and i

01:44:40.600 will talk to you guys next time bye

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Pearl - May 10, 2025

304 Destroyer, ANDREW WILSON, Joins THE SITDOWN!

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