In this episode, I have my good friend Taylor Lorenz on the show and we talk about online dating, cheating, and why women like to be cheated on. We also talk about women being better than men and how to be a better man.
00:00:00.320first person i had on this show was taylor lorenz we talked about that off camera but
00:00:07.280she often is criticized for saying oh she's fake online she's she's not how she actually is
00:00:13.280and you get that a lot too that people say you're a grifter what what do you say to that
00:00:20.560i don't really care you don't really care so that's what i mean what am i gonna do about it
00:00:25.440like how are you so good like do you feed off the controversy with everything not really it's just
00:00:32.880you know do you even know when you're going viral or not because it feels as if there's so many times
00:00:38.480in my read on you after spending a few hours with you is i don't know if you even are it's not like
00:00:44.240you're furiously checking things online i think you just kind of exist and then you know i just
00:00:51.200my dad taught me to just worry about like what you can control and i can't really control people's
00:00:57.200reactions so i control what i think and what i say i don't i can't control anybody else and do you
00:01:04.580do obviously there's it's media so there may be some things that you say for reactions we were
00:01:09.320talking about it earlier i'll do certain tick tocks about things that i know are going to do
00:01:14.120well but do you think you say what you say for the reaction or do you say it because you think
00:01:19.980it's the truth. Well, there are times where you might say something in a different way for comedic
00:01:25.540effect. But you stand on what you say. No, I stand on what I say. You say women like to be cheated on.
00:01:35.240Oh, yeah. Well, is that more of a because you you just said you were on you've been online for five
00:01:42.200years. Yeah, that's probably what thousands of hours. You may have said that in a joking way.
00:01:47.440or is that well i don't think women mind being side chicks women do it all the time but if you're
00:01:53.820in a relationship a woman doesn't want to be cheated on right okay i don't really care what
00:01:58.740people say okay i don't care i could say anything yeah i could say i have a bajillion dollars that
00:02:05.140doesn't mean it's true i look at what we we do there's stated preferences versus revealed
00:02:09.980preferences all right and i think any guy knows that your friend that cheats on his girlfriend
00:02:15.620all the time she doesn't leave and that's what i found maybe she doesn't know right
00:02:20.260women are experts at finding stuff out she knows something come on like we are so we are detect like
00:02:27.200so i don't care what we say i watch what we do and when i interviewed a thousand people i would
00:02:32.920ask the women when they caught the boyfriend cheating did you stay or leave so they could
00:02:37.260say i don't want this but it's what do you say versus what you do it is what you say versus what
00:02:44.000you do yeah and that's but that's what women get mad because it gives us more power if you listen
00:02:49.500to what we say versus watching what we do and you get more resources like you know when we find our
00:02:55.560bailout guy it's way easier to just say oh who's a bailout guy in your opinion um let me think of
00:03:00.880a famous example i mean nala ray's husband so you do the only fans thing yeah and then after she
00:03:07.000says oh i hated it i was just coerced now she can go to the bailout guy and he says oh
00:03:16.200so because i it seems as if a lot of the conversation is about
00:03:20.840women being better but where how can men be better well what more do you want men to do
00:03:27.560they could certainly not cheat on their significant others
00:03:30.200are you mean who who's cheating more men or women
00:03:34.720do you smile i think it's i think yeah i think it's who's cheating more even most men can't cheat
00:03:44.660it's too hard yeah yeah i would say that and there's a higher cost because like a side dude's
00:03:50.960very happy being a side dude why because he gets that smash and then just yeah yeah that's like
00:03:56.120best option for a guy that doesn't doesn't have to deal with it yeah and then he gets the boyfriend
00:04:01.560does all the emotional stuff we're a side chick she wants to be the main chick so but what men
00:04:08.360and then what you're talking about other things that make you do better men could provide better
00:04:13.240men could be better men out earn women despite all of these easy jobs being given to women
00:04:22.520what's an easy job giving to one we talked about human resources
00:04:27.020i mean i knew i knew a girl straight out of school there's a lot of guys guys are
00:04:33.760men just there's a lot of men that just put numbers into excel it's just not true you might
00:04:39.020maybe think that in your circles no offense but if you look at the demographics she keeps saying
00:04:44.080no offense i don't know how many times i have to tell her i'm not a pussy you can just say hey
00:04:47.780you live in a world that has a lot of when you're in the city you don't yeah and you're in this
00:04:52.840industry i could speak firsthand you don't deal with blue collar men as much but like the number
00:04:58.740one employer of men in america is truckers what more do you want the truckers to do they're
00:05:05.100allowing us to live how we live why do you think men don't approach women in public anymore is
00:05:09.940that woman's fault as well do you approach women in public i have yes but is it like a common thing
00:05:15.460No, it's not common. I would honestly say from an economical point of view, I would prefer it to not be common because then you stand out more.
00:05:24.060But men don't do it. No, I mean, I was even talking with some people this weekend, a bunch of women that I know.
00:05:31.700I was like, when's the last time you were approached in a bar?
00:05:35.820And they said, maybe once or twice a weekend. And these are women that are attractive.
00:05:39.700They should be being approached. Why do you think that is?
00:05:44.340like why do you think men and women where does this end let's go to let's go to you why don't
00:05:49.500you do it all the time uh i could be less of a pussy men naturally run a cost benefit analysis
00:05:56.920it's because the benefit doesn't make sense i would say more if you approached women i would
00:06:02.760say more was like yes jack let me go home with you immediately you probably do it all the time
00:06:09.560i've gotten past the point where i know that uh i'm gonna be hey guys how many of you are still
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00:08:11.220do come across as weird i don't really care yeah i would say it's more but most men probably don't
00:08:15.860want to be called a weirdo well i know men that do it for a living and so they approach women for
00:08:20.260a live like for a living i mean you've seen it on yeah on youtube yeah i know what you're talking
00:08:24.420about even the best guys the numbers aren't great it's like five out of a hundred like you approach
00:08:29.220100 women five snaps well i wouldn't do that if i do approach 100 men to like get a date but it
00:08:35.220does feel like we're entering a part of of time where it feels like no one's going to be together
00:08:40.900at any point yeah the sexes don't need each other anymore but then i'm thinking about what is the
00:08:49.460end game here men and women aren't getting together and it's just single people you're already seeing
00:08:54.420it they're yes and it's happening yeah it's happening more and more and more and then
00:08:59.060the end game there's no good it's gonna be like south korea it's coming and what does that look
00:09:06.340like it just looks like a society with not many families and a lot of single people like you'll
00:09:11.620see a lot of the um events that you see for adults now used to be for kids like here they
00:09:17.300no no here i'm listening here they have movies in the park and um now or like when i was a kid
00:09:23.860you bring your kids to that now yeah they put on lion king or something yeah so the events that
00:09:28.100used to be for kids are now for adult women for adult women but here's the thing this is what i
00:09:34.100keep coming back to it it seems like it's like there there are issues with men like that men
00:09:39.780aren't going up and approaching women they aren't being as ambitious as they were once were they're
00:09:43.940they're playing too many video games but when it comes back to you it's all women women like
00:09:48.740there has like well because men are i mean you can say that but that doesn't make it true because
00:09:53.380again there's blue collar men that run all of society there's more unemployed women than men
00:09:58.180but it goes back to the women are wonderful effect what's the women are wonderful it's like what you
00:10:02.740just did no no i don't i wouldn't i don't even want to whenever i say something bad i think we're in
00:10:08.420a little bit of a fight here right and you're pushing me up against the kitchen i have to fight
00:10:12.420back i'm not it's going to come across as me like trying to be a sin no i know but that's it's your
00:10:17.380no it's your biology it's not your fault men have to like actively go against their i'm not like i
00:10:22.500was just more like i think you're forcing me to be this because it's so it's such an extreme i'm
00:10:26.900i'm like i'm glad you're saying it and being honest yeah because but no it's because men
00:10:32.100biologically like you want to protect women so when i'm coming at them you still feel the need
00:10:36.340to protect it women use men's protector instinct against them all the time
00:10:40.260so like we hear a lot about trad wives like what do you think they exist anymore no they can't
00:10:48.360they know they can't because um traditional wives they can't have leverage and women always have
00:10:55.960leverage so have trad wives ever existed when was when did it become where women needed leverage
00:11:03.140i don't really like going into the past because i wasn't alive in that time period you could argue
00:11:09.180they were some historians will say yes no whatever i don't know but i mean today they can't exist
00:11:16.060because it's only traditional when she feels like it and i'll tell you a story so i asked my friend
00:11:21.660i said have you ever i said have you ever met a woman who when she really wants to do something
00:11:27.820and you say no she listens and at first he said yes he said my girlfriend she listens and i'm like
00:11:34.220and i'm like what do you mean by that and he's like well you know she doesn't want to go out
00:11:38.140she doesn't want to do all this stuff and i said okay let's flip it you want to go out she doesn't
00:11:43.500and you say we're going does she go and he's like no because that's that's what a true traditional
00:11:49.580woman is at its core is a woman who does something she doesn't want like she really doesn't want to
00:11:55.100what's a traditional do you think traditional men still exist i think they want to but they can't
00:12:00.300because the men are always going to make concessions to the woman because she has the leverage
00:12:04.620which is sex no it's um the power of social reputation what we were just talking about
00:12:11.360yeah yeah so it's like if me and you are in a business deal yeah and you get half of my wealth
00:12:16.400by leaving i'm always going to be making concessions to you even if it's like subconscious
00:12:21.440and subtle and you see men do this all the time they become wife guys right i mean i'm sure you've
00:12:26.800got a wife guys yeah i'm sure you've had a guy get married or get into a relationship that you're
00:12:31.280friends with and over time he just becomes a shell of himself like he's laughing because he
00:12:35.880knows what i'm talking about if i was talking to 16 year old pearl was she like this like i mean
00:12:40.740like this yeah you're playing volleyball and then like once you stop playing volleyball you just
00:12:44.160do you think go ahead sometimes i'll think i'm a certain way because of how i was raised
00:12:50.580and i'll break it down and think i think this i think that but i'm not exactly like my parents
00:12:55.280in any way yeah did you think it's how you grew up my parents think i'm extreme i mean they think
00:13:01.040And your mother's running for Congress?
00:14:48.540Like so if a kid's, even after it's born, the mom's the most likely to kill it.
00:14:51.480if you look at most abusive relationships they're both beating each other if you look at one-sided
00:14:58.160abuse oh okay if you look at one-sided abuse in relationships women are more likely and honestly
00:15:03.160if i pulled the three of you on the girls you've dated i bet at least one of you has been hit by
00:15:07.500a previous ex-girlfriend yes i mean when there's a difference because she knows the hit's not going
00:15:13.700to impact as much again but this is back to the if you punch i i yeah i would have to strongly
00:15:22.420but do women want to be equal or not if you want to be treated equally you want to be treated
00:15:28.180equally yes but i think there's a physical when you talk about the where we were discussing the
00:15:35.380sports aspect and we acknowledge the physical aspect there's a difference we have to also
00:15:40.500acknowledge that if there's a physical difference then yeah of course a man punching a woman is
00:15:46.820you it's as different as it gets i mean because you can truly impact also when a male and a male
00:15:53.300fights i mean i guess there are aspects it does you you you're thinking about killing them but
00:15:58.980you don't let's use two men and i'm going to show you this is like gynocentric thinking which is
00:16:03.300like the women are wonderful effect we're using this right now yeah women are if you go and punch
00:16:08.260dwayne the rock johnson and you get punched back should he not do it because you'll get hurt more
00:16:13.380your punch would barely touch him yeah you could run that but i i think there's
00:16:19.540dwayne the rock johnson rules for women but it's but that's a nuance with dwayne the rock johnson
00:16:25.300because there's not a million dwayne the rock johnson's but there's a lot more men stronger
00:16:28.660than women i interviewed sean strickland what about yeah yeah what about john strickland he's
00:16:33.220i know he's awesome but like if you punched him in the face ufc fans would say he would take me
00:16:38.100he would uh it would go to decision it would be a five-round fight to say no sean trickle would
00:16:42.740knock me out in one point yeah and no one would feel bad for you because you punched so you
00:16:47.220shouldn't have punched someone bigger than you like that's stupid on your part but we can't
00:16:51.780lead women to that stage i can't no we can't you guys love us too much you always want to
00:16:56.580we can't be putting no that's where i would have to draw the line uh very strongly we can't allow
00:17:02.420that well we don't allow it so i wouldn't recommend i wouldn't recommend men do it because
00:17:07.080there's too many consequences but if i was but in your perfect world you would allow it oh god yeah
00:17:11.660that's extreme maybe women would stop putting their hands on you got to give consequences to
00:17:16.200people if you give people no consequences they're going to do one punch from sean strickland to me
00:17:20.920is probably not going to impact me as much as one punch from me to a hundred pound woman like
00:17:28.120the skulls the physicality it's it's so much different yeah but even like i look at men that
00:17:33.660like beat their girlfriends like i've seen footage that's come out a lot of times it's provoked by
00:17:38.780the way and half the time the guy still holds back yeah but he but you need to hold back we
00:17:43.140can't i mean there should be no violence i agree i mean there there should be impact the guy should
00:17:48.220just take it then he can't defend himself well the woman the man in this situation i would say
00:17:54.340the man should be allowed to control the woman not like keeps going i mean there's women that
00:17:59.220are killing men now he's just well i mean i think there's it's a you know like i'm saying like you
00:18:04.360grab her because if she's assaulting you yeah you have to fight back to an extent
00:18:08.440but once it becomes like then you should leave like this is this relationship's over yeah well
00:18:15.400i think they should be able to defend themselves but we can we can have a difference that would be
00:18:19.100so much so much more murder there'd be so much more murder we could have a difference of opinion
00:18:23.720All right. Oh, yeah. I'm going to I'm going to firmly say no to that.
00:18:27.160But you're discussing Candace and how you'll say, like, even women in that sphere will become too powerful and they can't handle the power.
00:18:37.440Yeah, because, again, we're it's the same thing. Women in media, there's just patterns.
00:18:42.100We tend to get elevated quickly. So we don't tend to have to do the same work a man did.
00:18:48.540This happened to me. This happened to me. Like, I'm including myself in this.
00:18:51.420Not so, but usually there's a gap between how competent the woman is and how much fame the woman has, because it's not as difficult for us to get it.
00:19:01.880Like if you became the number one sports journalist in New York, that's going to take you like 10, 20 years.
00:19:08.180You are not going to skyrocket. It's going to take you forever as a guy.