Pearl - Amouranth & Nick Lee Join Pearl

00:00:00.000 what is up guys welcome to another episode of pearl daily here on the audacity

00:00:08.160 network um today we have a special show for you and it's super special because i'm not

00:00:13.200 overly sure what i'm doing this show i as you can tell by the title

00:00:21.360 i might be doing a show on the michigan coach

00:00:24.560 however however um amareth was supposed to come on today but i haven't heard from her in a few hours

00:00:37.440 so it would be cool if her and her husband come on but i don't know i'm like maybe they forgot

00:00:43.520 the other day um what's his face was supposed to come on um

00:00:48.320 oh my god jason whitlock and then he didn't come so i don't want to

00:00:54.560 Um, you know, so I've been looking to ascend now, obviously yesterday I was kind of tired.

00:00:59.800 So not every day I want to, um, ascend, but today I was like, let me, let me look at what

00:01:05.480 these looks maxers are saying.

00:01:08.840 And apparently I have a negative, um, cancel tilt.

00:01:15.660 So that means my eyes go like down, I guess that's there.

00:01:19.020 That's the, that's what the black pillars were telling me.

00:01:21.000 So I was like, apparently I'm supposed to do makeup that pulls it up.

00:01:25.120 But the problem is I'm kind of bad at it.

00:01:29.260 I'm kind of bad.

00:01:30.100 I'm kind of, I'm not the best at it.

00:01:37.020 I'm not amazing.

00:01:38.240 So I'm not a sub five.

00:01:40.960 It's over sub five.

00:01:42.320 I think I'm below.

00:01:43.400 I'm like, I'm like, um, I think I'm cooked.

00:01:46.860 I think I'm cooked, but I did.

00:01:49.080 i i liked um i was getting kind of inspired watching that young kid talk about improving

00:01:54.840 yourself and he's like why would you not want to improve yourself and i'm like yeah why don't i try

00:01:59.320 to look better i'm an entertainment i'm an entertainment and then they said i need more

00:02:06.120 hair volume but i don't know like the top of my head just doesn't go it doesn't

00:02:13.720 Yeah, you better accept my flaws

00:02:18.540 Because I'm not doing my makeup every day

00:02:20.100 I know, I am cooked

00:02:22.200 Lock in

00:02:24.540 I am locked in

00:02:25.760 I'm locking in

00:02:37.720 I'm getting locked in

00:02:39.440 so if any of you are the black pillars and you um want to tell me how to ascend let me know

00:02:49.660 let me know i know do you know what i think i'm gonna get bangs soon

00:02:55.340 because i got i do have a big forehead like that that is true that's like

00:03:00.160 that that's objectively a true statement you know

00:03:02.900 all right well i sent amareth's husband the link i don't it doesn't seem like they're going to show

00:03:12.980 up it doesn't seem like um but i don't know i don't want to it's no beef you know if people

00:03:22.260 cancel i just do stuff with like um with other

00:03:26.740 don't cover your face do you know what i i've learned i can't really take advice from the

00:03:34.080 comments well i'll take advice from certain comment sections but there is a part a partial

00:03:40.480 part of the comment section that's just very simpy and they they'll tell you you look amazing

00:03:45.320 like when you're a 500 pound whale it's how these fat women make money on only fans

00:03:50.480 um so some of you like some of you i think don't want me to ascend and it's called ascend ascension

00:04:00.120 season um quit touching my face now there's some things that i think are unreasonable

00:04:09.680 that i just don't want to do um and never touching my face again i just don't

00:04:15.760 it's not something that's not part of the ascension process for me. Like someone said

00:04:21.120 I should get a tan and I don't really, um, I don't tan anyways. So that means it would have

00:04:29.360 to be fake. And I could maybe, um, I could maybe do that once or twice, like for fun. Let's see

00:04:35.840 what it looks like. But I just can't see myself regularly getting spray tans. I just don't think

00:04:41.120 I want it. I don't think I want it that bad. Do you know what I mean? Like, I think I want to

00:04:46.440 ascend, but I don't, I don't want to ascend too hard. I don't know. Okay. You know, and a lot of

00:04:57.460 people, they say it's not never touching your face again. It's making sure your hands are clean.

00:05:04.020 Well, I don't understand because people have told me I need a skincare routine and to ascend my skin.

00:05:09.860 but i think i have good skin like i know i have a bad like under eye area like i know but

00:05:17.200 my under eyes have been like that since i was a kid so i've always just looked tired that's just

00:05:23.880 like my face um but you know like that's genetic um unfortunately right but i'm like i think i have

00:05:33.220 good I have no acne like what is I was like what is wrong with my skin um sob you're a four well

00:05:42.440 if I'm a four then I want to be a 4.3 is that is that is that is a bitch wrong for that

00:05:51.820 is a bitch, is a bitch wrong for that. Okay. Um, I might dye my hair. Please don't tell me not to

00:06:05.660 because I've never done it before and I just want to try it. And so it's either going to be blonde

00:06:13.560 or brown because I kind of already have brown hair. It's going to be like dark. Um,

00:06:18.420 and, um, how do I put it? It's just something I want to try. I'll go back. I'll go back to being

00:06:30.540 a redhead, but I just think it would be fun for like six months to try another hair color.

00:06:35.440 Don't I knew I hate it when people it's like, yeah, no, no, no, no. All right. If you're not

00:06:42.240 going to vote on one of them, then I need you to leave. I need you. I'm trying to ascend this year.

00:06:47.580 i'm trying to ascend um okay i'm not getting a bbl that i'm not doing

00:06:53.320 that look there's

00:06:56.900 thank you for the ten dollar super chat do you think we all try too hard nowadays for perception

00:07:07.100 instead of intrinsic value at surface level social media is to blame for me um i just think

00:07:13.980 this is going to entertain me for six months, like the Ascension journey. Because as a woman,

00:07:19.840 I mean, if we get too bored, we get into trouble. So if I can like entertain myself for six months

00:07:26.700 trying to ascend, like, you know, putting my all into the Ascension, well, I think it's,

00:07:34.460 you know, Ascension. All right. I'll do a song about Ascension.

00:07:38.980 Oh, I want to ascend. I want to ascend. Wait, let me do a different scale. Oh, I want to ascend.

00:07:53.060 I'm chopped to no end, just help me ascend, please, I got black fatigue, but today all

00:08:10.080 I want to do is ascend for me, ascend, take me to the end.

00:08:23.060 Please. Wait, please. Please help me. Thank you. Thank you. Oh my gosh. They said my ears are

00:08:42.780 bleeding. All right. You know, that's not constructive. If you're going to tell me like,

00:08:47.220 you know if you know you could say a higher pitch like it should be like i don't know

00:08:54.880 you know all right you want the black fatigue song black fatigue black fatigue

00:09:04.880 shiny girl please take out the weave black fatigue black fatigue

00:09:15.460 Shaniqua, please take out the weed

00:09:21.040 I'm paying you to stop

00:09:26.260 Okay, now I'm going to do it harder

00:09:28.360 I'm a modern woman, damn it

00:09:30.180 I'm a modern woman

00:09:32.200 And as a modern woman

00:09:34.580 Now I want to do it more

00:09:37.800 Alright, I think

00:09:45.460 All right. I'm fairly certain they're not coming, but I don't know. Amarith is like what I would

00:09:55.200 be if I was hotter in another life. Amarith's like a way better looking version of me. She's

00:10:03.060 like me if my genetic, you know, if I, if I didn't have chopped parents, not that my parents aren't

00:10:10.040 actually chopped but you know when the internet like they'll say you need to look better and i'm

00:10:17.000 just thinking i'm like um well i mean what do you blame my dad you know blame blame my mother

00:10:27.480 you know it's like blame blame the people who did this to me

00:10:33.160 or am i ever going to do an interview with the joker from better bachelor i like him

00:10:40.540 he's cool all right let's see you taught me to shoot my first basket

00:10:48.500 you made us fifth grade conference champions

00:10:53.680 i never cared about the fans i just loved seeing you in the stands long walks on the

00:11:02.200 ride home. I miss him when we're on the phone. Cause not all girls get a dad like you. And I'm

00:11:14.060 so lucky that I have you. Oh, there's no way I could ever thank you for all of the things you

00:11:25.000 help me to do i'm so happy blood thicker than water because damn it i'm so proud to be your

00:11:35.240 daughter i used to hate green eyes i wanted blue but now i love them cause i look like you

00:11:45.720 now this is what i thought of this they say i ain't pretty but i don't care

00:11:50.120 Cause I got short smile and red hair

00:11:52.620 When I look in the mirror, I see you

00:11:55.920 Oh, not all girls get a dad like you

00:12:01.720 And I'm so lucky that I have you

00:12:06.000 Oh, there's no way

00:12:09.020 There's no way I could ever thank you

00:12:14.500 For all of the things you helped me to do

00:12:20.120 I'm so happy, but it's thicker than water.

00:12:24.600 Cause dammit, I'm so proud to be your daughter.

00:12:30.340 I mean, you're welcome.

00:12:33.660 Wrote that about my dad.

00:12:35.460 That's what made me, that's what made me think of it.

00:12:37.980 Don't descend like Candace Owens.

00:12:39.460 I used to watch her before she snapped out.

00:12:42.020 She did have a crash out.

00:12:43.860 She did have a crash out.

00:12:44.920 I love, you know, I love these conservative e-girls.

00:12:48.040 Cause they keep me employed.

00:12:50.120 All right, we are at 6.55.

00:13:01.060 All right, I'm going to go back on the comments from the last show.

00:13:05.840 And, well, that's kind of what I like to start with on the show anyway.

00:13:13.740 If you were hot, you would be on an OnlyFans with volleyball, probably.

00:13:18.380 I mean, who knows?

00:13:19.460 like who knows what someone's willing to do right like i could you know try to moralize

00:13:27.460 and say oh i would never do that but i don't know what would i do if i was really hot

00:13:34.260 i mean i think god maybe knew i was a bad person like he thought you could be a better person

00:13:40.820 and um

00:13:41.460 Um, because of that, I think he maybe didn't give me that ability, you know, what would

00:13:49.420 I do if I was a really, really hot chick?

00:13:53.960 What would I do?

00:13:55.600 Hmm.

00:13:58.960 I will, I will talk about this.

00:14:01.420 This show I'm talking about will either be today or tomorrow.

00:14:05.640 Why do I depress myself with these topics every day?

00:14:08.640 um i don't think are these topics depressing to you they don't depress me

00:14:14.540 um the more i realize there is no party that will um represent my interests um brian said

00:14:22.000 tim pool is not conservative also i started the phone calls today i did a few so i am going to

00:14:29.460 be calling you guys if you got the email oh and i'm doug mpa can you put the discord server link

00:14:35.300 the chat we have like 120 people in our discord and so you can um

00:14:44.180 you can actually directly influence the topics for the show

00:14:48.820 it would be kind of cool um to get like i don't know like a thousand people in the discord would

00:14:55.540 be kind of cool i just learned how to use it the other day so candace show is a dark face i mean

00:15:03.300 candace owens is just doing some ghetto i mean let's let's be honest andrew we're all thinking

00:15:08.660 it we're all thinking it bro sing a song if i was hot what i would do oh okay i actually that's a

00:15:16.580 good song topic if i was i've been made my whole life but if i was hot maybe i'd be someone's wife

00:15:28.900 i've been mid my whole life and being hot maybe i'd put up a fight

00:15:39.300 hot girls and then i could go to wait um hot girls get wait i'm i kind of want a different

00:15:48.140 pattern hot girl wait oh my god I can't sing hot hot girls get the life of the party if I was hot

00:16:03.560 I'd be kind of naughty if I was hot I'd be on a yacht with Drake and Kanye shaking some ass

00:16:15.420 like all of the girls say, but I was born a man. Oh my God. This is off the dome. I want you to

00:16:25.220 know you might not appreciate the songwriting, but this is all like, this is off the top of my head.

00:16:31.580 If I was hot, I'd be, if I was hot, I'd be on a yacht. That's actually kind of catchy.

00:16:36.720 if i was hot if i was hot i'd be on a yacht if i if i was hot i'd be on a yacht i'd be on a yacht

00:16:46.620 with drake and whatnot i'd be the life of every party doing shit that's kind of naughty

00:16:52.940 it's not that's kind of did i just if i was hot i'd be on a yacht did i just think of a bop

00:17:01.400 I might get women. We, we tend to think we're better than we are, but I, in my head, I just

00:17:06.400 made a hit single. If I was hot, I'd be on only fans. If I was hot, if I was hot, if I was hot,

00:17:14.920 if I was hot, I'd be on only fans, have a million, have a million followers, have a million followers

00:17:22.680 on Instagram. I wouldn't need, I wouldn't take shit from nobody. I tell them that I am somebody

00:17:30.940 If I was hot, I'd, if I, if I was hot, I'd go to jail. If I was hot, I would go to jail and make

00:17:42.960 some simp, pay my bail. If I was hot, I'd, if I was hot, I'd go. If I was hot, I'd be on a yacht.

00:17:55.500 that's kind of catchy and did i think of something did i think of something

00:18:05.020 go to jail i'd go to jail like blonnie blue i wouldn't be on youtube oh my god

00:18:14.940 if i i would be like bonnie blue i wouldn't be on youtube i'd i'd go on a den and say

00:18:25.100 myself if i was hot if i was hot i'd look 25 for the rest of the time i'm alive i'd get the fake

00:18:37.420 i'd get fake tits fake ass i'd get big if i if i was hot i'd look 25 for the rest okay i can't

00:18:45.900 really play piano i've only learned for like a year if i was hot i'd be on a yacht

00:18:51.420 wow this is this is i think i'm i think i'm on to something

00:18:59.700 what else is bad behavior that you would do because that's kind of the catch it's this is

00:19:07.760 kind of the same um we all just want to be big rock stars it's kind of the same vibe but like

00:19:14.280 if i was hot i'd if i was hot i'd have three boyfriends and make them pay my rent till the end

00:19:23.660 if i was hot i'd oh if i was hot i'd live in new york city i'd be getting fucking litty but i'm

00:19:33.880 stuck in this little small town and i can't even burn it down oh my god oh my god i am a genius

00:19:44.240 If I was hot, I'd be on here. I'll be thinking hot or not. Okay. I understand the voice could

00:19:55.560 be better. I can barely play piano, but do you guys see the vision? Are you guys following this?

00:20:03.320 Don't quit my day job. All right.

00:20:09.040 All right. All right. All right.

00:20:14.240 Fair enough.

00:20:19.080 If I was hot, I'd be on a yacht.

00:20:22.500 If I was hot, I would be a thought.

00:20:28.840 Wait, if I was hot, I would be a thought.

00:20:32.200 I'd be twerking on a yacht.

00:20:35.060 If I was hot, I'd be on a yacht.

00:20:36.460 I get autistic.

00:20:39.900 I get autistic with this.

00:20:44.240 That was painful. All right. What's the biggest stopper today from women stepping into the men's frame of reference and life perspective? What really blocks a woman's mind from actually listening to what men need and not just want?

00:20:56.860 because all right you guys have to think of things from the woman's point of view not yours

00:21:04.860 like a lot of times men do this they say oh but you're never going to get married women

00:21:09.740 do women want to get married men want to get married women don't want to get married

00:21:18.300 what do women fantasize about living in a city banging hot guys

00:21:22.860 you have to think the yeah like you kind of have to think about what um women want women don't

00:21:35.980 want to be married women want to be horse you know what i mean we want to slut it up so you're you're

00:21:42.780 asking like why don't women just be traditional well what do we get out of it you're like marry

00:21:48.060 your high school boyfriend. Do women want to do that? We want to slut it up. Like, no, no,

00:21:52.900 we got to look at what women are doing, right? So like, we want to slut it up for the highest

00:21:58.420 status guy we can get. So if you're a mid, you want to slut it up for, I mean, now it's like

00:22:03.200 clout, women like streamers. How many women have we seen twerking on neon? I mean, this is getting

00:22:08.600 bad. This is getting down bad. This is not great. Song. Why do women love DV stuff in bed? Well,

00:22:15.220 this is what i would do hit me like instead of black fatigue women like to be okay but so you

00:22:25.820 know a lot of you guys you're like oh but women should go back in the kitchen i'm like women are

00:22:30.180 never gonna do that there's uber eats now there's uber eats um men want women to get married when

00:22:39.080 they're young not women once men learn about female nature they've pretty much given up on

00:22:43.160 marriage. I don't blame any of them, the dating market. No, you'd be surprised. There's always

00:22:47.280 going to be a man that does it. There's always going to be a man like, oh no, you won't get

00:22:53.480 married. Yeah, they will look at, um, so yeah, it's, um, cause again, you have to look at the

00:23:16.920 customer's always right right so it would be like you know women said why don't men just and women

00:23:24.220 kind of do do this because we're delusional but men are delusional in their own way you know

00:23:28.160 they're like you know women are like why don't men just like fat women

00:23:32.020 and um you know men just they're like no i don't want to bang fat women we'll do it like what you

00:23:40.080 black men will do it for sure um black men will definitely do it um but they don't really like

00:23:50.560 that they don't enjoy it and women don't really enjoy like women want the exciting life you know

00:23:57.520 we want to be on yachts twerking on a boat like what do you see hot women doing women with the

00:24:02.240 most choice i'm in conservative media the hot women aren't here they're on only fans

00:24:10.960 they're twerking um which actually brings me to my guest um today we have uh we have nick lee

00:24:18.080 coming on the show and i think his wife amareth is coming on too i'm not i'm not overly sure but

00:24:23.760 welcome yeah she's supposed to be i mean she's uh i have someone grabbing her real fast she's on the

00:24:28.960 other side of the uh house it's all right tell her to take your time how are you welcome back

00:24:35.520 hey how's it going yeah i'm pretty good i'm pretty good

00:24:38.880 i think i talked to you at the very beginning of my uh attempting to be a content creator

00:24:42.960 how's it going it's pretty good like uh honestly the the money on kick is pretty incredible oh

00:24:49.280 really are you streaming i i am yeah yeah i'm just uh i have just your your uh stream i guess

00:24:56.800 on okay yeah but uh yeah i think we're like we're up to like 1500 a day and i've been doing this

00:25:03.600 for you know a couple of months so i think it's pretty good yeah you guys you guys are getting

00:25:09.360 along better now since last time you came on we are um it was basically i didn't even know this

00:25:16.000 when i talked to you at the time but like uh because i had staffers who were trying to get

00:25:20.400 her like ptsd therapy and then uh i didn't realize that like none of them had succeeded in actually

00:25:27.040 finding her a specialist that she liked and so a lot of that was just i feel like uh residual

00:25:33.200 like the the the way i figured it out eventually was that like uh we like you know 24 7 armed

00:25:38.640 security and like she went out there uh when one of the dogs got out and just like just cussed out

00:25:44.640 the the security guy who's like a friend of mine and you know he took it with a lot of grace uh and

00:25:49.360 he just like immediately rushed out to go find the dog which is like not what the security guy does

00:25:54.080 and that's when i was like oh wait we have had dogs get out before and we would just put up signs

00:25:58.640 like we do it calmly and rationally but like what is this like taking it out on someone like going

00:26:04.880 to like a absolute 10 and just like you know kind of godzilla moting yeah and so that's when i was

00:26:09.840 like i think this is something to do with the the event and and you know knock on wood so far

00:26:15.600 uh it's been pretty good hey every relationship has like one crash out so i'm not judging

00:26:21.600 every couple you know argues on stream once or twice so it just is what it is

00:26:29.760 um she'll be in in 10 minutes she's finishing uh yeah so you're kind of like the the man behind

00:26:37.040 like is she the number one only fans model in america would you say in the world she was at

00:26:42.240 one point um like during covid yeah yeah and how do you feel like because everyone calls you like

00:26:49.200 a simp and like a cuck i don't think you are and i would i would give i'd give my rationalization

00:26:55.120 later but does that like but you you know you go on these shows especially in the red pill and

00:26:59.760 that's what everyone kind of moralizes with you like how does it like does it bother you or do

00:27:04.640 you just not care i mean it doesn't really bother me because like i've been called a lot worse uh

00:27:10.240 you know in the past so i'm kind of used to it uh i don't know i feel like uh my i like i try to make

00:27:16.720 my views more like case by case but i do find that like a lot of the red pill views are like

00:27:23.840 more in the wheelhouse of what i find to be reasonable yeah and so like i just take it as

00:27:28.400 like you know they have to toe the party line and and they got to say the sound bites and all that

00:27:33.760 well you're a pimp in a way like

00:27:39.760 for a debate i'm more like a uh consultant

00:27:42.640 no like i i know it's like a negative connotation but i was thinking about it i'm like

00:27:49.100 i think more married guys are sips than the guy that like is making a bunch of money off of this

00:27:55.080 you know yeah i mean like me and her um that's the thing like for many many years uh we aligned

00:28:03.580 a lot and both of us were like 100 all in yeah um i think uh that started to kind of um dive diverge

00:28:12.480 guess um around kind of the end of covid right um when the the easiest money had like probably

00:28:18.560 already been made um and i think that's like a guy versus a girl thing like she was happy with what

00:28:24.000 you know we had accomplished but you know she didn't tell me that i was supposed to read between

00:28:27.760 lines and then for me i'm just still like it's weird because she cares about the money in terms

00:28:32.960 of having an absolute quantum that is enough to do what she wants for me i actually kind of don't

00:28:38.320 care about the money i just like doing things at a high level so you know yeah well i mean you guys

00:28:44.880 i mean you're good for life aren't you i'd imagine yeah like i was telling uh another

00:28:50.640 streamer the other day like uh like i'm streaming for fun like my passive after tax income um not

00:28:57.120 even selling any equities or anything is like over two million dollars so yeah so um is she still

00:29:04.000 doing the only fan stuff or no is she done i mean she still has the account up but like it's not like

00:29:10.000 she's not doing it with like i guess the vigor that she used to which is like perfectly fine

00:29:14.800 for me i've never had an issue with that i just wish there was like a you know a bit more

00:29:19.360 communication i don't know why she didn't like just say hey i want to you know pull back or or

00:29:25.120 do less because that's like something i can understand but like i'm just treating it as

00:29:30.080 like business as usual for the for the longest time and it was just kind of like grading i guess

00:29:35.600 oh okay so okay i have a question how like because i'm obviously not gonna look at the only fans um

00:29:44.160 uh but like how naked does she get is it like do you guys do guy girl on camera or is it

00:29:50.000 is it just is it someone messaged me to ask you about a dildo they're very upset

00:29:55.360 and i and i was like i i guess i'll ask him but well look i i i guess this is a i'm not being like

00:30:04.720 paid by them or anything but since you asked um there's a product that you might find very

00:30:09.360 interesting and it's called uh real no like that's the brand like i'm not saying an actual like you

00:30:16.080 know dick um and like it's so funny because like uh they approached us a long time ago and they're

00:30:21.520 like hey would you be an investor and you know for me i'm just like probably not but i was like i'll

00:30:25.840 do the factory tour and so i go there and they're casting these like hyper realistic uh silicone

00:30:31.040 dicks and then they're hand painting them it's like they're painting warhammer okay right and

00:30:34.640 i was like what the hell and i was like this this is like really real like the shading and everything

00:30:39.040 like the veins and then i was like wait a minute whose molds are these and like the owner sheepishly

00:30:44.080 was like a few of those are mine yeah okay fantastic interesting business out of las vegas

00:30:51.040 this is on the only fans no no so that's that's like that we kind of started using those and like

00:30:57.760 when you show that like kind of coming in off screen it looks very real because it's so real

00:31:03.440 right um and then like that that kind of uh was something people did not understand for like maybe

00:31:09.680 like four years or so and then eventually other girls copied and everyone uses them and now

00:31:14.000 everyone knows that this thing is a thing yeah okay they seemed upset she was using the dildo

00:31:21.040 on the only fan that's what they told me and i was like because i have a discord and so and someone

00:31:25.120 just kept spamming spamming about this like there's a dildo and i'm like oh okay yeah i mean

00:31:32.240 it mirrors every like piece of content basically like you know like everything is like a little

00:31:36.240 bit scripted right like you know at least you're playing it up or something and that's kind of uh

00:31:40.720 in the same vein like it's like you know you're selling the illusion and they're a little mad

00:31:45.280 that the illusion's a little less real than the other illusions i see well but so i don't know if

00:31:51.360 you answered my question like because i think last time you said it was just like bikini photos and

00:31:56.320 like light nudes is it still that or is it further oh no it's it's definitely been further than that

00:32:01.920 that was kind of what i was saying was that like uh i think you don't have to go that past that

00:32:07.120 point to make millions and millions of dollars um she goes further but it's like uh like simulated

00:32:12.640 like solo stuff but like you know uh with a little bit of movie magic you can make it like a lot more

00:32:18.880 real and we she also does this thing where we apply a light filter over it and so it looks like

00:32:25.600 uh the videos are animated and then that lets you uh it's almost like a comic book right like

00:32:30.720 in the beginning the marvel movies when they're flipping through the comic book like we've done

00:32:33.680 that effect and then it's just like it's her but it's like a photo realistic image based from like

00:32:39.280 adapted from a real video and then you can edit crazy things into that and and like you know

00:32:44.560 because it's not an actual like you know true life image we do do a lot of stuff like that

00:32:49.760 um and but like basically the the most it ever gets to is solo stuff and occasionally like

00:32:54.960 you know we're pretty elaborate with it like we've had like other guys voice acting we'll say

00:33:00.080 and so like a lot of the times like they'll buy that hook line and sinker like a voice acting

00:33:06.520 what do you mean like okay well because like uh you can add a lot of like effect into uh selling

00:33:12.660 it if there's like a guy right like if this is like a little tmi but like imagine if you're doing

00:33:17.540 like a casting couch video right well like there's a meme of how that goes and it's like some guy in

00:33:21.980 a deep voice saying sit down you know tell me a little bit about yourself right and so you can do

00:33:26.340 most of that video without actually the action, right? It's just movie magic. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:33:33.400 Oh, so you have like AI. So, oh, actually it'd be interesting.

00:33:36.820 You have used AI, but you have to flag it, right? Like the platforms are really finicky about if

00:33:41.080 you don't flag it. Do you think that'll take OnlyFans models jobs actually?

00:33:47.680 I actually don't think so. Well, like eventually yes, right? But like, I feel like with the last

00:33:52.600 group of only fans girls who are big when general ai hits it's going to be very lucrative because

00:33:57.480 they're going to be to extend their careers way longer right because it's like i've always told

00:34:01.800 people like if ai came out like general ai came out today and you could perfectly replicate brad

00:34:06.040 pitt he'd be in movies forever because right now right but in the future like 100 years from now

00:34:11.960 there'll be like a a totally made up actor who doesn't exist who's all ai right but for now

00:34:17.240 we're going to plug that into what already exists and so every influencer who's big when general ai

00:34:21.800 hits every only fans girl every youtuber mr beast is going to be in everything when that happens you

00:34:27.320 know um that's how i view it okay yeah i i because i'm not too worried about ai at least from like a

00:34:34.120 youtuber point of view but i don't know i was just curious if you thought maybe i think you'll be

00:34:38.300 fine you'll probably be a beneficiary of it like uh there'll be like 15 pearl videos a day or something

00:34:43.140 yeah like i won't even be there um do you ever worry about like negative effects later like are

00:34:50.180 you guys planning on i know everyone probably asks you this every show but you know people are

00:34:55.020 kind of curious we're not planning on having kids but like i honestly like really i talked to andrew

00:35:01.480 uh wilson about this you guys would have such a cute kid to like not even around with the idea

00:35:09.120 but like we've never really pulled the trigger and i feel like um i mean it's balls in her court

00:35:13.640 right because i'm i'm a pretty easygoing person where i've always played support and i'm better

00:35:19.520 at that like and so like if you want something i i generally am pretty good at gearing up and and

00:35:24.240 and getting that and so like it's just kind of like what she wants but uh i was debating

00:35:29.120 andrew wilson a little bit about this but my view is this right like if you actually remember what

00:35:33.280 it's like to be in the schoolyard kids bully kids for the silliest reason even a made-up reason

00:35:37.920 right and so like oh no like they're saying timmy's mom is on only fans well you know what

00:35:43.120 like timmy should shoot back that johnny's mom does even crazier on only fans yeah and then with

00:35:47.760 the advent of ai you're not even gonna be able to disprove it so like there's no downside it's just

00:35:52.720 that you know timmy's gonna be rich yeah no i actually agree that you can't really predict

00:35:59.520 how it will be in the future um i do think people will get bullied for it uh but like it's kind of

00:36:06.320 like i mean i grew up there are moms that had thirst traps on facebook you know yeah i mean

00:36:12.160 you know someone will get bullied for pimples someone will get bullied for for you know liking

00:36:16.240 guys or something like it's like kids will make fun of kids for any reason the reason is just the

00:36:21.200 excuse to do it right like they'll find the the reason whether your mom is on only fans or not

00:36:27.040 right well it's gonna be worse for the only fit come on but that's what i'm saying like

00:36:33.520 it is going to be worse like all you have to say is like oh that's ai and everyone's gonna be like

00:36:37.760 oh yeah yeah not not emeryth though like yeah if your mom's some struggle only fans person like

00:36:44.560 i could see that but not when you were the number one only fans creator in america

00:36:49.440 i mean potentially but like it also comes with it like you know the the higher level of reward

00:36:54.640 i guess it's like you know kim kardashian how did she break into the scene it's like but you

00:36:59.120 that's like a footnote at this point if you know what i mean yeah i'd get if you have a son you

00:37:04.080 should get him like kickboxing or something at three that's what i would do um but you do see

00:37:12.160 like different people with social media followings kind of crashing out and you guys you guys have

00:37:18.080 had a crash i've had a crash everyone's had a crash out but do you ever think there would be

00:37:21.820 a point where if there was like too hard of a crash out you'd walk away i think it'd have to

00:37:28.500 be something not just like on stream and visual like it'd have to actually be like a like some

00:37:33.500 kind of ideological difference or break um because at this point like it's it's kind of hard to drag

00:37:39.320 my name anymore through the mud yeah you know like uh i've built up an exoskeleton so to speak

00:37:46.400 and so like i'm pretty like i don't really like i'm pretty apathetic to like what people think

00:37:52.060 of me online at this point um so it won't be that but like it'd have to be something like

00:37:55.760 you know kind of a breakaway and like uh where we want to be uh in the future yeah my favorite

00:38:01.680 people to talk to are people that just have nothing to lose anymore in terms of their reputation

00:38:06.920 because you just talked to them they have no ego you have you have that vibe because it's like what

00:38:11.920 are people gonna say yeah no you get a real conversation with a real person as if it wasn't

00:38:16.940 being filmed basically yeah yeah um so when it comes because i really was more curious to have

00:38:23.660 you on like with the business of only fans um so have you learned things about i guess like because

00:38:33.500 you manage you kind of do the back end amaranth camera like what have you learned about men um

00:38:40.780 and what other women maybe aren't doing that have allowed you guys to have this big um customer base

00:38:47.540 um in doing your job does that make sense is there something other like women aren't doing

00:38:52.780 um maybe like a look that men tend to like um i don't know wherever your mind goes when i ask

00:39:00.820 that question yeah so like uh i would say um so we started only fans like actually somewhat late

00:39:07.200 i want to say it was like sometime in 2020 maybe even 2021 january and that's that's fairly late

00:39:13.020 because covid is already in full swing um and in the beginning we didn't have anything unique that

00:39:18.300 we were doing other people weren't and so she was basically that was the days of like when she just

00:39:22.940 posted bikini pictures and shit um and then you know eventually she did um a little more lewd

00:39:28.240 stuff um but we didn't really find out until like maybe late 22 or 23 like how the the platform

00:39:35.760 actually works in terms of how you drive like way more money and like it's actually pretty shocking

00:39:41.440 and like i've never explained it to someone um and had them believe me like it's almost like

00:39:47.280 you know we've managed other people uh because we used to have an agency and like you kind of have

00:39:51.440 to show them like no one will believe this uh you just have to show them the numbers show me the

00:39:56.720 the money you know um and then they're like oh okay i guess that's true and the thing is this

00:40:00.840 right like and it's pretty cliche it's like you can go to porn hub for free right it's 100 free

00:40:05.740 right um so many sites uh so many videos online you know leaks whatever it's all it's all free

00:40:11.580 right like so why are they going to only fans that's like the big question right and so the

00:40:15.700 answer is that like they actually are just seeking something that's not pornography and that blows

00:40:22.360 people's minds because they can't separate the connotation of pornography and only fans but it's

00:40:27.580 literally just like sure the porn is there but like the girl could probably not be doing anything

00:40:33.160 except talking to them and and maybe she has porn on porn hub though and they would still spend money

00:40:38.520 what do you what do you men want to have listened to like what are the main conversations that i

00:40:44.740 guess make money um also welcome to the show i saw her she's grabbing a chair real fast yeah no rush

00:40:52.340 no rush yeah yeah um no it's just like i feel like uh that that is the thing it goes back to

00:40:59.340 the male loneliness epidemic right like that's what they're buying and and sometimes they don't

00:41:04.620 even know they're buying that in fact it's only fans is like the perfect fly trap because they go

00:41:09.220 in there thinking they're gonna have a sexy good time and then what what actually happens is it

00:41:14.120 taps into something way deeper that they're missing like fundamentally and like that's actually how

00:41:18.960 you unlock like the most money because the crazy thing is like we didn't hit our peak until after

00:41:24.180 she wasn't nearly as popular as she is now or like was then um and so like if we had discovered that

00:41:30.580 method um kind of back in 22 like i think it would have been like a four or five million a month

00:41:35.720 thing like the method is just like so much better when you stop thinking about it like selling

00:41:40.660 content and when you start thinking about it like selling uh access and attention and are you actually

00:41:46.960 is she actually are you actually directly speaking to them like i know they say i don't know if you

00:41:55.280 can say this i'm not trying to out it or whatever but i know they always say like only fans models

00:42:00.480 are using like chat bots and stuff are you guys are you actually talking to the guys is that how

00:42:05.200 it works or i've never seen anyone uh successfully use a convincing chat bot i've heard people say

00:42:12.240 they use one but it's like some some person they hired to type right um in the early days she was

00:42:18.560 definitely on it um and then over time you just make like a super fact card of how she would

00:42:24.800 answer things and then eventually you just have someone i mean all the like let's be honest all

00:42:28.960 the questions are the same right like it's just different guys same literally what are the

00:42:33.600 questions they have like that's kind of what i'm curious like what are the general um conversations

00:42:38.880 they want to talk about it's honestly like think of like an awkward first date where the guy is

00:42:44.300 just asking you like random questions you know while you're sitting across from him at uh dinner

00:42:50.240 that's basically what it is it's like they're just looking to make conversation like and they're not

00:42:55.600 particularly good at it and and and so like it just repeats right like obviously they look up

00:42:59.920 like who she is online and they go you know like oh uh are you going to twitch con or how many dogs

00:43:05.000 you have or like it's it's it's all the same thing to where it's like you know the the person who's

00:43:09.880 going to be actually hitting enter just needs to know how many dogs she has or whether she's going

00:43:13.880 to the event or not and would you say that the majority of the people you the men you talk to

00:43:20.140 are they married or single like what if you had to do a breakdown like 10 men you have 10 calls

00:43:26.160 what percent are married what percent single um what percent old you would assume most are single

00:43:34.040 but you know if they were married they probably don't not gonna tell you most of the time some

00:43:38.840 do but yeah i agree it's hard to get that information like in a way that's like not like

00:43:45.400 yeah because like if you ask them that like it's almost like the you have to have a double blind

00:43:49.400 to be able to get the real answer right but i think it's probably roughly similar to the demographic

00:43:54.440 of single versus married men in general well because i googled it and it says the number

00:44:00.360 one customer on only fans is white um christian married men yeah that's why um i was curious

00:44:09.080 like because i think data can be manipulated based on your agenda so i think you guys would

00:44:14.280 actually know better of like who the customers are because everyone i mean there's such a big

00:44:19.880 number of men that are paying for only fans everyone wants to know like who are they

00:44:23.560 you know what demographic who is it yeah i would say there's not really uh like there's not like

00:44:29.480 a last name register you're like man these are all white guys i would say it's pretty diverse

00:44:33.160 when you see the accounts maybe if it's dollar weighted i could buy that because they just have

00:44:38.840 more purchasing power yeah but i think in terms of just customer existing uh i would say probably

00:44:43.960 not that but it's a very uh great market segment i guess well the like like if i go out and i

00:44:53.720 meet like 10 fans i can kind of classify like there's like three different types of people

00:44:59.800 that watch me and if i meet a girl it's like it's like probably going to be a girl similar to me

00:45:04.680 like white girl late 20s early 30s ish um sometimes early 20s if i if i meet them and

00:45:11.560 i was just curious if you have like profiles like that for the fans

00:45:16.840 no it's just pretty random yeah there's not that much information it tells you

00:45:21.560 Actually, you know, I think it dichotomizes just my cursory view is that like, it's like

00:45:25.560 single guys who feel lonely or it's like married guys who are bored.

00:45:32.120 Like it's like those two with like no, no, no middle.

00:45:36.900 There's also a lot of schizos on there.

00:45:39.220 Yeah, that's true.

00:45:40.580 A lot of like, I wouldn't say they're like mentally challenged, but they definitely are

00:45:45.040 fighting some inner demons.

00:45:46.460 They have way too many conversations with themselves before you even get to respond

00:45:49.680 half the time.

00:45:50.280 yeah like they're carrying their own conversation kind of and um do you develop like real

00:45:57.920 friendships with any of these guys like over time now no sorry maybe with like i'm sure there are

00:46:05.980 a lot of schizos that might be mad that i said that and who are paying me so yeah but no

00:46:12.480 i mean i would you probably are kind of okay with some of the viewers like the the people

00:46:19.460 who watch the stream like not on the of side i wouldn't call it friends though right i'm not like

00:46:23.880 hey come over you know let's come to my birthday party this year like i don't know uh yeah i would

00:46:31.920 say that i i play discord voice chat games you know like i'll play marvel rivals with people

00:46:37.140 from my stream and maybe some of them are subscribed but i'm not pulling that subscriber

00:46:42.580 list to play games it's just whoever happens to be active like in my my online like live stream

00:46:48.600 not only fans stuff that's unfortunate because i feel like i've made actual friendships uh you know

00:46:55.560 in in making content with people well it's like a guy versus girl no we're talking about only fans

00:47:00.520 subscribers no i know i'm just like i have friends that i've met on my twitch stream you know

00:47:08.760 i've broadened it to be the twitch stream because some of them are only sure sure

00:47:13.640 like i said yeah like like that there might be overlap but i'm definitely not like they're not

00:47:19.800 the most die hard well if there's overlap that means there are people they're not the unhinged

00:47:24.880 ones though who are like think that they're gonna show up at my house and marry me they're not like

00:47:29.160 the unhinged stalker level one you've had people come to your house you've had people come to your

00:47:33.740 house is that how often does that happen um not that often luckily um maybe there's like one

00:47:41.660 stalker level that like goes not just online stalking but in-person stalking like once every

00:47:47.520 few years well you get the occasional weird one she'll go irling and someone will tell the car

00:47:51.260 home oh okay you know and it'll be like a fan and then they'll drive by yelling amaranth oh yeah

00:47:56.820 that does happen okay that's crazy because i have always felt like women always over exaggerate how

00:48:04.040 many stalkers they have and i'm hearing the number one i mean do they mean in person or do they mean

00:48:09.160 just like creepy in my dms online like lots of emails like it depends wow that was such a good

00:48:15.740 point oh my god that was such a good point i never thought of that yeah there's levels um because if

00:48:22.440 you have one in-person soccer you probably have a few hundred online stalkers yeah yeah it's

00:48:27.720 definitely like a tip of the iceberg yeah yeah is was there anything um when you kind of got into

00:48:35.260 this industry that you were surprised men are attracted to uh yeah like the the the typical

00:48:44.540 weird fetishes that you most people would find the they hear them like vore which is uh i guess

00:48:50.780 eating eaten alive like they want to be physically eaten alive like a giantist situation um some guys

00:48:58.540 are attracted like sexually to farts and poop um piss pay pigging too that was crazy to me

00:49:06.380 oh yeah that that is i guess that's that's not gross but it's a pleasant surprise though it is

00:49:12.220 surprising still it is a pleasant one hey picking is where like a guy just basically it's like

00:49:17.580 financial dominatrix they want to be dominated financially and they want you to drain their

00:49:21.100 wallet some guys will even go as far to try to offer you their paypal information like login

00:49:26.860 information um credit card numbers and stuff like they want you to destroy them financially

00:49:31.720 i've never gone down that one because like just if you're gonna if you want to do forward could

00:49:37.240 you forward the information no i feel like i feel like it could be a trap at any given time i'm like

00:49:44.420 i'm not gonna tangle myself in that mess but you can keep giving all your money through the

00:49:49.520 donation that's fine yeah i've seen other girls do it egregiously like they'll be someone streaming

00:49:53.080 with her and then she'll they'll be on her stream right and they'll look into the camera and they'll

00:49:57.080 go hey asshole fucking donate to us now and then like 25 dollars comes in yeah it's like all right

00:50:02.900 whatever commanding yeah oh do you is that common where the guys want you to like yell at them

00:50:09.100 and like um i would say common as in like you see it yes not most of them but you know it's a it's

00:50:16.900 popular weird fetish it's pretty common humiliation kink i think is what they call it why do you

00:50:23.780 think the majority of women on only fans fail do you think it's like a work ethic lack of strategy

00:50:29.780 why did why did you succeed and like 90 make like 250 bucks a month i think it's a reach issue

00:50:38.180 especially now it's so oversaturated i think i was like on the tail end of the easy street

00:50:44.180 where there wasn't as many people in it but it was still had enough name recognition to actually

00:50:48.900 have people visiting the website um i think a lot of it was just timing and luck and then

00:50:55.780 with that timing and luck though the fact that i was just online so much yeah it's kind of like

00:51:00.820 top of mind because it's like there was a point on twitch now it's not so easy where it's like

00:51:06.500 you could be streaming if you just out stream everyone else well then you'll get all the

00:51:10.500 followers because there's only so many girls at the time in the directory now there's so many

00:51:16.020 girls it's like it doesn't really matter anymore there's just too many people flooding the little

00:51:21.700 search results but i think it was just a lot of luck to be honest nick do you think you had a

00:51:27.940 different strategy than other only fans girls like do you agree with her or do you think it was more

00:51:32.980 strategy we we i mean in the beginning it definitely wasn't um it was probably around

00:51:39.140 the time we got our instagram your instagram band that like i had to get really creative because

00:51:45.220 like back then it's like unheard of this is pre-covered like 2018 she had like 5.5 million

00:51:50.820 followers on instagram but they were all real organic followers and so every post she did

00:51:55.700 every day would get like 350 000 likes and like 5 million impressions and so you didn't have to

00:52:01.620 do anything in those days you just kind of had to be there and then when they banned that account um

00:52:06.660 we got really creative with how we courted controversy in media, uh, and basically used

00:52:12.320 earned media instead of self-generated media to kind of market. Right. And we've done kind of

00:52:17.080 everything. I've put up billboards in Las Vegas, which is Amaranth. That's it. And like the beauty

00:52:23.340 of it is like, uh, people just Google it. Cause what the hell is that? And then, then like online

00:52:28.540 publications and journals, uh, like, like journalists will write about it. They're like,

00:52:32.460 there's a mysterious amaranth billboard and so you like for a ten thousand dollar billboard you

00:52:36.760 got like you know maybe a hundred million impressions stuff like that were like huge

00:52:41.140 wins um i think we just got really creative with the marketing and then i think there were very few

00:52:47.160 couples at the time who were as in sync and and we kind of are separate enough that we're good

00:52:53.220 at different things and it just like filled in all the gaps i think um is that your actual name

00:52:59.600 amaranth no it's a cosplay name oh okay because someone asked me if it was if you were named

00:53:06.360 after like zelda or something and i'm like i don't know if that's her real name

00:53:09.560 i've got people ask that sometimes they're like except you're on your birth certificate and i was

00:53:14.200 like no no it's not which is why like i always think it's funny i heard y'all talking about

00:53:19.340 like the kid question it's like if i had a kid right now it would probably be another like 10

00:53:25.180 to 15 years before he enters the junior high school scene which i'm probably not gonna be

00:53:28.980 relevant anymore i'm not going to go to school and introduce myself as mrs amaranth like the

00:53:34.140 fuck yeah but how do i put it you're like america's fat amaranth so it's like you're gonna stand it

00:53:43.780 you're gonna be a good looking mom so people are gonna google it sure but it'll just be like the

00:53:48.780 stacy's mom situation i'm not gonna like go tell all your friends that i used to be an only fan

00:53:53.920 like i'm not gonna be like going around flaunting it my hair color would be different it's true how

00:53:58.640 go by a different name entirely it goes really fast right in the online space like one minute

00:54:04.160 you're hot and one minute you're not you know so i feel like people underestimate like you know

00:54:09.120 maybe in a year it would be a big deal but like five years ten years i don't remember the youtubers

00:54:15.440 of ten years ago yeah you know i do agree with you that i think in the future we're not really going

00:54:21.280 to be able to predict how people i guess because it's going to be more common they're saying i'm

00:54:27.520 lying in the chat i'm not actually lying when i say that uh but i don't know i think the problem

00:54:33.120 is you did so well on it like how many people have subscribed to you i finally didn't know

00:54:41.040 i think um like at one point being paying i think it was something like 780 000 people

00:54:48.720 yeah but i don't know about history historically i'm just saying like that's the unique people

00:54:52.560 like some people maybe for years maybe someone for one month right i think it's 780 000 uniques

00:54:59.840 on only fans but what year was that oh that was probably like in 24 yeah i haven't checked this

00:55:05.760 year yeah i mean it's it's ticking up way slower than it used to obviously because you hit saturation

00:55:10.880 right um yeah when do you think like do you have a time where you think you'll end like stop doing

00:55:18.480 it do you have like a prediction of how long you think you'll do not really i'm kind of i'm kind

00:55:23.040 of like just trying to hold out just to see how good the ai technology gets so i can just immortalize

00:55:29.200 red-headed amaranth and i can change my hair color and disappear into society with a different name

00:55:35.120 put my clark kent on cover up the titties and just you know look like a normal modest

00:55:40.080 christian woman out there on the streets of the new great america whatever i don't know

00:55:47.040 yeah i don't know if that's gonna be it yeah i don't know i i hope it works out for you but i

00:55:51.600 don't know if that'll be as easy as you think i think you're too big um i'd be surprised i'm

00:55:58.240 curious have you done any and you don't have to answer this but have you done any cosmetic work

00:56:04.000 and did it increase like viewership did you feel like it helped no i think i'm like probably the

00:56:12.080 only like influencer i know at this point who hasn't done like any fillers or any like like

00:56:19.340 face lifting shiny lip injections and i think that's probably him gonna hinder my career

00:56:25.120 longevity because i see all these girls looking younger and younger with every procedure and no

00:56:30.920 one ever believes that but like the evidence i always point to is like guys some of them live

00:56:35.980 in a fantasy land we're like oh my gosh she got a nose job like over the weekend it's like dude

00:56:39.780 she has streamed consecutive days for like seven years like every day she's on stream

00:56:44.980 where was the recovery period for the procedure you know um that's like the you haven't had implants

00:56:51.780 no oh okay i thought those are fake i'm not a i'm not a thing what embarrassing story when i was in

00:57:02.680 fifth grade my friends asked if i was stuffing my bra and i wasn't wearing a bra yet um and it's

00:57:08.280 just kind of like been that way like every every year as i was like developing i was developing

00:57:13.200 very early and that got me like a lot i got it got to the point where in junior high i had

00:57:17.860 theater guys chasing me under the risers while the teacher was out of the room saying we'll just go

00:57:23.700 fuck under there like i was harassed because of titties for a long time so i think i mean that

00:57:29.660 helped me eventually but i there was a time where i hated titties well people like to point to like

00:57:34.160 oh look here's the evidence and like the evidence i always point to is like she used to when she

00:57:38.080 was starting out in cosplay do uh what they call cross-playing where you do the chest binding and

00:57:43.760 then you get to assume a guy character like link uh from zelda or like you know whatever and so

00:57:49.960 they always look at like those link photos and they're like see she has no boobs in that it's

00:57:53.840 like well yeah it's because like they're like but if they looked at my my cosplay pictures when i

00:57:59.500 was doing girl characters from like high school college it's before i even started streaming it's

00:58:04.460 like giant titties it's like they just they pick and choose and they're like it fluctuates with

00:58:08.500 weight when she had a chest binder on see no tits it's like thanks or like no bra versus bra

00:58:16.660 yes women look different it's always the frodo or the length they go see no boobs

00:58:20.920 but you're so your plan after this is to basically change your name change your hair color and just

00:58:28.520 go like fade into the background essentially if if you end up having kids which you're not sure

00:58:34.260 you want yeah pretty much just disappear off the internet never mention it again

00:58:42.100 people ask what do you do be like oh digital marketing you're married to a big guy streamer

00:58:50.660 i'm married an influencer

00:58:56.020 um someone asked are you gonna go the are you gonna go the church route

00:59:00.020 what do you mean it's go what does go the church i think they they find religion and then like they

00:59:05.140 do like the nala thing where they i've been i've been going to church since i was a kid so i don't

00:59:09.240 know what goes oh my god i was raised in a baptist family sorry are you gonna are it's gonna feel

00:59:16.640 that way because it always does when you stop doing the the online thing and then you start

00:59:21.320 living a life because yeah like we go to church on on you know many many sundays uh definitely

00:59:26.980 every holiday and stuff like that and so it's like i know like if i didn't have anything to do

00:59:31.940 i might go every sunday i guess you've streamed at church a few times this is fun

00:59:39.220 you don't you streamed at church yeah i just want a viral clip with oh my god

00:59:47.620 you don't think that's a little bit like i mean i'm not i'm not trying to judge but i'm like

00:59:52.180 giving the word of god to the people i always joke that i'm like giving them jesus

00:59:58.420 would you okay would you ever speak at a christian leadership conference if they asked

01:00:04.460 would i speak at one yeah maybe just like my testimony about like my robbery and how i survived

01:00:12.640 but like that's about it um i don't know i wouldn't be like

01:00:17.960 i don't know i never want to speak at like the influencer like college type stuff because they're

01:00:23.460 like tell come tell us all these young people your ted talk about how to influence and i'm like i

01:00:28.120 don't think most of y'all should it's a bad idea typically yeah to answer the uh your question i

01:00:33.520 think you're asking is that like i don't think we're gonna do the whole like oh we're we're

01:00:37.320 converted and different and like not we've turned away from our old ways i think for us it's always

01:00:42.760 just been like something we did because it made sense and it made a lot of money yeah and it led

01:00:47.300 to like you know us having a better like life essentially yeah yeah how does your family feel

01:00:54.320 about it are they supportive yeah they're pretty supportive they don't really like we don't none

01:01:00.380 of us really acknowledge or talk about like the of stuff but like i mean they know that i do that

01:01:07.340 in addition to streaming um but they're supportive even though they have been like swatted in the

01:01:12.240 past from like live stream harassment in general but they're still pretty supportive yeah just to

01:01:17.920 be frank i think that's one of those things where it's like there's a absolute quantum of money

01:01:21.960 that just bins opinion because their parents are very conservative and they're just like they just

01:01:27.620 don't talk about it and they pretend it's not a thing yeah yeah has it affected their life at all

01:01:33.160 like in your hometown do they do people give them shit or i think my i think people uh my dad's work

01:01:40.040 actually are like amazed and they like him more now because they're like oh my goodness he works

01:01:43.960 at like a tech place though so that's like tell us an amaranth story yeah like what you're her dad

01:01:49.640 that's so cool um but i guess like the only thing that's really like affected is like the

01:01:56.600 the occasional swatting harassment so you know there's there's kind of this idea um and i

01:02:03.240 disagree with it but there's this idea that like women that do only fans you know their parents

01:02:09.480 did something that made them do it did you feel like your parents influenced sorry did you feel

01:02:15.380 like parents influenced this decision no no and like i know there's also tropes like fatherless

01:02:21.240 activities it's like i just went christmas shopping with my dad and bought him some cowboy boots like

01:02:26.320 i don't know i'd say we have a my dad sends me memes every day like we have a pretty good

01:02:30.160 relationship like both my parents have stayed together their whole marriage people badly want

01:02:34.780 only fans girls to get their comeuppance and like it's it's kind of like unfair and that like

01:02:39.820 in many ways the small ones do like if you tried it you made 250 dollars and then you quit

01:02:45.120 like that's the person who takes the worst of it right yeah the winners at the very top like you

01:02:50.360 know they're helping their families you know they're they're raising you know kids uh in an

01:02:55.280 affluent situation like they're never gonna feel that there is no karma like karmic justice in that

01:03:00.240 you know yeah yeah because when i like so i interviewed a thousand people in london and a

01:03:06.360 good chunk of them were like we had a i'd like um what's her name lily phillips on my show

01:03:10.460 and um i think i thought sex workers at one point maybe did have damaged backgrounds in some way

01:03:17.780 but i was really surprised the more i met the more i'm like now they went to like a nice school

01:03:22.340 they're from a good area their parents are still together it's just because they like want to do

01:03:26.820 this type of work for whatever reason yeah mostly it's i think it's because of the money it's just

01:03:33.120 such a good and it seems like an easy life hack for the infinite money glitch yeah for the porn

01:03:38.900 stuff pre-of i think oh yeah that's a whole lifestyle choice that's rough yeah the new age

01:03:44.200 version and that's the hard part right because there's probably some girl out there who genuinely

01:03:48.760 wants to do porn and like they're getting overshadowed by girls who just want to make money

01:03:52.660 that's that's the other thing like a lot of people in my experience i want you guys to say if you

01:04:00.680 disagree i was shocked how many only fans girls just did it because they liked it and enjoyed

01:04:06.300 making content on camera um do you agree or disagree with that because i don't know i feel

01:04:11.800 like the ones who are successful at it might just be saying that as a pr ones but the ones who keep

01:04:17.900 going even though i guess they might really like it if they're not making any money and they keep

01:04:22.040 uploading for years i guess that's true i don't know it's hard to tell i would think that it would

01:04:27.360 only just be because the money is so good i could think of so many of the things i do with my free

01:04:31.060 time if i'm already rich yeah it's hard because she only really at this point interacts with like

01:04:35.800 the other top girls like it's not like a snobby thing it's just like you know like your peer group

01:04:41.460 tends to match you know like your own demographic or whatever and so like all the ones that are

01:04:46.440 successful they definitely are doing it for the money right i haven't met a single person who makes

01:04:50.400 500k a month or more who who like loves the work they're just like it's good money um but i could

01:04:57.020 believe that like a lot of people who aren't making good money like it's a lifestyle choice

01:05:00.780 that they enjoy yeah yeah i mean those people should be studied but um not sure we'd have to

01:05:08.120 interview some but the problem is you don't hear about them so then it's hard to interview them

01:05:12.420 are you would you guys ever manage other only fans models like have you ever thought about

01:05:18.900 doing that we've done that before um i think someone could do that well but we were not

01:05:26.340 able to really do that without a lot of headache and not because of the girls but mostly because

01:05:31.380 uh good help is hard to find because you need people who are professional and then like

01:05:36.180 professionals aren't signing up for that kind of job so yeah maybe in the future more will not

01:05:42.100 true yeah i think we had a great strategy um and then it was going pretty reasonably well but i

01:05:49.060 feel like um it just didn't kind of jive with where we wanted to be like i would rather be

01:05:54.100 doing kind of fun stuff and then like making content out of it than like you know running

01:05:58.500 a bunch of people running a bunch of accounts making money like at some point it was just like

01:06:03.220 i don't need that or the money and so it's like yeah yeah it's more stress than it's worth

01:06:08.740 yeah i had a similar because i i managed youtubers for a while and i quit that pretty fast

01:06:14.680 i was like no thank you um hold on i think my co-host doug mpa he's gonna come up and say hi

01:06:24.620 hey how's it going you guys hey hey what's up doug so um i wanted to ask so you guys know when

01:06:33.320 something starts getting mainstream coverage on the news the narrative is all crazy i don't know

01:06:39.160 if you've seen those articles about how they're saying these poor 15 16 17 year old girls are

01:06:46.200 are wanting to become of models right when they're 18 and all this stuff can happen to them

01:06:53.320 how how old were you when you start with only fans and did you have a life before

01:06:59.960 before do you think that someone should live a normal life before they get a fun only fan i don't

01:07:06.200 know what people should do but for me i guess i didn't really join the internet influencing space

01:07:12.760 at all until what year was that like we we got married in 2015 and 16. so you're like 21 22.

01:07:22.120 i was 21 i think right after like the year that we started dating so probably like 23 when we

01:07:27.960 started when i started doing the influencing stuff for almost 23 and then only fans was later so maybe

01:07:33.800 like 25 26 yeah something like that but he's saying like is that uh the better way to do it or

01:07:39.560 should you should someone start and hit it you know just hop right in deep into the pool

01:07:48.040 it's so hard to say what someone should do because it's like well depends um do you already have a

01:07:54.120 really successful social media to where you could actually pull off that maneuver without ruining

01:07:58.200 your life well you know i'm not who am i to say what you do but if it's just like a random girl

01:08:04.200 who doesn't have any social media following and her first like crack at influencing is to become

01:08:09.880 an of girl that is probably something that i would caution against because you're not going to have

01:08:16.360 the ability to market anyone without like a pre-existing following you know like like it

01:08:22.360 It can work out for like the, who was that rapper that just turned 18?

01:08:26.460 That baby.

01:08:27.120 No, no.

01:08:29.000 Lil Tay.

01:08:30.380 Yeah, that one.

01:08:31.480 Like for her, makes sense.

01:08:33.480 The business strategy makes sense.

01:08:35.560 You got a lot of creepo, pedo people who have been watching your career this whole time.

01:08:40.660 You want to capitalize in on it because you're creeped out by them for years anyways.

01:08:44.260 Sure, whatever.

01:08:45.140 So generally, probably not an 18.

01:08:46.560 Yeah.

01:08:46.820 Yeah, yeah.

01:08:47.360 Generally, no.

01:08:48.600 Very few exceptions where that actually makes sense.

01:08:51.260 And I think most girls think like they can just turn on the OF and suddenly it's an infinite money glitch for them, even though nobody knows who they are online.

01:08:58.520 It's like, no, you're just going to ruin your social standings with like any colleges you're trying to get into, any jobs you're trying to apply for.

01:09:05.700 And then like the people around you, dating potential and stuff is going to be all weird.

01:09:09.960 Family is going to get weird because all your personal circle is more likely to harass you about it than you are to make any money off of it.

01:09:16.900 Yeah, that's the most – that part that you touched on is like the most interesting kind of paradox.

01:09:21.740 It's like everyone – when she says like, oh, OnlyFans is hard.

01:09:25.040 You shouldn't try it.

01:09:26.200 Only if you have an existing audience.

01:09:27.700 People are like, oh, she's pulling up the ladder.

01:09:29.480 And it's like, no, no, no.

01:09:30.220 I actually think the greatest ladder pool in the world is the understanding or belief that so many people hold that it's easy.

01:09:37.400 Because that's like literally telling someone they're going for a walk in the park and then the fucking platoon boat opens and they're on Omaha Beach.

01:09:45.220 Yeah, exactly.

01:09:45.640 You want hardened people who understand what they're getting into, and that's actually how you have someone have longevity in the field.

01:09:52.740 When you say that, like, oh, it is easy money, she's just pulling up the ladder.

01:09:56.000 It's like, you know, like, yeah, like, you're just a bucket of meat at that point.

01:10:00.060 Yeah, like, if you have no social media following, you just go into full-out porn, then there's no mystery anymore.

01:10:06.440 No one knows who you are, so they don't care.

01:10:08.740 And you're just the same as any random person they might watch on Pornhub who doesn't have any name recognition personally uploading there.

01:10:14.520 like that's not getting money you know it's like the whole money train is when they don't have

01:10:19.940 access to that they know who you are and they've been wondering about it for a long time or

01:10:24.960 whatever like a in mass it's like you're you're kind of just ruining your chances of ever going

01:10:29.580 into money if you just go from like normal person offline to boom here's my coochie random on the

01:10:35.360 internet now it's like what now what career is that gonna make how how far um would you

01:10:41.940 recommend women go if they're going to do the only fans i would recommend not even going all

01:10:47.660 the way i think you can just i've seen a lot of girls make a lot of money just off of like

01:10:52.180 like boudoir style like lingerie or bikini stuff or just teasing solo like i don't think you ever

01:10:58.540 have to fuck at all i don't think it has to go to that level at all yeah i think the pressure

01:11:04.340 where once you do it once that's going to get you into that thing where you have to keep doing

01:11:09.500 more and more lewd stuff when it comes to actual sex is that the biggest threshold when it comes

01:11:16.560 to that kind of content but whether you actually start you can stop the uh you can stop the uh

01:11:24.160 slippery slope at any time right yeah and the sad part is oh yeah yeah like and the sad part is this

01:11:29.320 okay like now that we know this we didn't know this at the time but like i feel like the most

01:11:33.780 profitable line of demarcation is like topless not topless that's it like everything else you

01:11:39.940 you need you just need to be smarter about how you do it like like once you like i was telling

01:11:44.660 pearl earlier like it would blow like no one has ever believed me when i explained to them how of

01:11:49.140 works like only some of the people we used to manage other than her like they wouldn't even

01:11:53.540 believe me but then they would see the money increase doing it our way in the first month

01:11:57.620 it'd be like you know 3x what they were making and then they're like oh i guess that's true

01:12:01.540 Like, it just doesn't sound believable, right?

01:12:04.400 Like, it's truly, like, it's not about the lewdness or the escalation.

01:12:08.840 It's all about how you kind of tap into, like, you know, addressing what they actually want,

01:12:15.700 which is, like, to be free of loneliness.

01:12:17.660 So what is, like, a post that would make a lot of money that would shock people or, like, that would do really well?

01:12:26.280 i think uh the first time uh you did a topless photo and like it's actually really funny because

01:12:37.060 it's like uh it was just kind of a zoomed in photo of boob like you didn't even see her face

01:12:41.860 or anything and it's like that image like put behind a paywall i think ended up making like

01:12:47.800 i could see why guys pay for that they look good yeah i mean you gotta hype it right first time

01:12:53.020 ever blah blah and then like i think that post alone sold like enough to make 350 000 yeah yeah

01:13:01.520 like one one single image i want you guys to rate the thirst trap is this a good one

01:13:08.520 i just googled thirst traps for women so i want like from a business point of view how are the

01:13:14.940 ladies doing i mean i'm so desensitized to boobs and women in general now i don't know like i just

01:13:21.980 see woman and i'm like damn she's trying so hard like that's all i see now i don't even find it

01:13:26.420 sexy seven and a half i just want to know if it's not about her looks but just from marketing point

01:13:33.500 of view like is this a good picture to market and only fans uh i would say it's kind of busy

01:13:38.040 if you're trying to stand out like on an instagram feed or something like there's too much i mean this

01:13:43.320 this is good for breaking the monotony but like the the simplest pictures uh work the best right

01:13:48.580 Like, the girl taking a selfie in the mirror is, like, fantastic.

01:13:52.960 Really?

01:13:53.680 So this, too hard, trying too hard?

01:13:55.940 No, this is.

01:13:56.440 Yeah, no, it goes back to the thing I was saying, right?

01:13:58.060 Like, it would surprise you what people are actually looking for.

01:14:00.920 Yeah, a lot of guys are just looking for, like, girl next door is sending me Snapchats.

01:14:06.920 Me and a bunch of other guys on her list.

01:14:08.660 Yeah, they want to feel special is the thing.

01:14:10.540 You don't tell them that, though.

01:14:11.620 How is this one?

01:14:13.580 Actually, that's pretty in line.

01:14:15.580 I mean, she was wearing, like, a.

01:14:16.360 that might piss a lot of people off because it seems like she's taken if she's wearing a cocktail

01:14:20.760 dress or like a evening dress i think that would be a fantastic photo okay so i think that pose

01:14:27.080 without the bouquet sure yeah would be better you should do a you should do a course on how

01:14:31.700 to thirst trap i bet people would buy like the art of the thirst trap well like no you'll get

01:14:37.920 okay so so just to clarify you will get more engagement on like the bikini pictures but like

01:14:43.640 you're not going to actually grow your paying customer base as effectively that's the big

01:14:48.760 paradox like you got to mix both in yeah that's pretty good they have to be able to envision

01:14:54.520 themselves like it's meeting you somewhere like in person for the immersion if it if you look to

01:15:00.600 instagram modeling it's not as immersive yeah i think this is a pretty good one because it looks

01:15:04.040 very candid yeah this is pretty yeah this is this would be well i think

01:15:06.920 do you guys ever like feel competitive like with sophie rain and like all those other ones do you

01:15:15.380 ever like feel like i don't try to compete with people who are 10 years younger than me that's

01:15:19.040 that's such a good comment the truth of being online is that like for the entire history of

01:15:26.740 it right the the newer people at a smaller scale make way more money than you like that's always

01:15:32.780 been true right and streaming and youtubing like uh you know like like the the top 10 youtubers

01:15:39.420 from 10 years ago they didn't make anything near like what logan makes in a month so like it's

01:15:44.840 always moving it's kind of like baseball same thing right babe ruth didn't make a fraction of

01:15:48.580 what like you know derrick jeter made yeah i would say as the industry ages you know how long it's

01:15:54.720 been open i think there's always more money to be made but the ability to break into it is so much

01:15:59.640 harder yeah guys like this one that's a great one that's like a that's the best one that you've

01:16:07.480 shown yeah yeah that's why i would do the best so so i've seen women online say that in this

01:16:16.360 economy there's no reason why a woman a pretty woman shouldn't monetize her looks like you see

01:16:23.200 women on on tiktok like if you're pretty and you're not like sugar babying or using it to

01:16:30.120 make money what are you doing how do you feel about that i think that's pretty shitty like

01:16:34.700 thing to say because there's a lot of women out there just like don't want to and that's

01:16:37.860 perfectly fine i don't think that we should be shaming people because of their ability

01:16:41.160 to like lower their own personal values in order to make money it's like if they don't want to do

01:16:47.520 it they don't want to do it that's fine some don't have to make money they could you know

01:16:51.700 they might already have a situation set up where they don't feel like they even need to be bothered

01:16:56.240 to do anything at all whether they're pretty or not it's just kind of weird people like what are

01:17:01.720 you doing it feels just like yeah it depends on what they want right um like if you just want to

01:17:05.660 make money then sure but like most people have like slightly more complex goals than that and

01:17:12.040 the ones you see doing it are the ones who have already chosen that they want to make the money

01:17:15.340 does personality matter on only fans uh i would say not your actual personality

01:17:23.880 no but maybe whoever you have chatting for you yeah

01:17:26.480 so there are there are there things like that you have to make sure you say to the guys or like

01:17:39.840 there i don't like if you were coaching someone to chat for you what would they say sorry go ahead

01:17:44.420 i don't think there's things that you have to make sure that you say it's more about i guess

01:17:49.380 over time you find different um almost like different strategies to like what type of

01:17:56.820 conversation would get the most money out of it like okay tell them about this the inner circle

01:18:01.800 you're better at explaining that than i am i mean like essentially you create opportunities to like

01:18:07.100 hit like you know uh things that are psychologically effective and so it's like

01:18:12.080 exclusivity is a huge driver right um seeing something you think no one else sees um you know

01:18:17.580 like feeling special stuff like that and so like it's just unbelievable when i describe stuff like

01:18:23.080 this but it's just like you could message the guy and you could you could literally just copy and

01:18:27.360 paste this right and you could just put like uh hey uh for like a thousand dollars you can join

01:18:32.140 the inner circle and then you don't even explain what it is and like like like you get the thousand

01:18:38.320 dollars like so often like like it's just like i was like wait i didn't tell you what it was

01:18:44.240 like you're just like and then i was like okay well let's do that again it's like another one

01:18:47.440 like it's like it's like when i when i figured that one out i was like are you are we being

01:18:52.560 serious here yeah like like like is this actually what like it's like a joke almost i was like i

01:18:57.120 can't believe and then like you can do that again and again right you could say all right but like

01:19:01.360 now that you're part of the inner circle there's actually a higher level it's just like and then

01:19:06.880 like that's a ten thousand dollar level right like and it's like i'm like i can't believe this works

01:19:11.680 is like i don't even know playing against the computer on easy mode but like like that is what

01:19:18.640 makes the money right and then you're gonna have some other girl on the side selling like a butthole

01:19:23.520 picture for five dollars and she's looking at you like how did you sell words for ten thousand dollars

01:19:30.480 i see so a lot of women they probably put too much out there too soon oh yeah that's always

01:19:36.400 the case almost like in fact i think every single person i know of that's the case like you could

01:19:41.360 go slower yeah that's like sophie rain's doing a good job i mean she's claiming to be a virgin

01:19:46.720 i don't know i'm not dumb enough to buy that but either way it's good marketing

01:19:56.320 of course the virgin fly was 20. she just she's like 19 i could believe it oh she really that

01:20:01.840 young jesus apparently yeah i don't know if i believe it but yeah but you know all she has to

01:20:10.400 do is get other people to believe it that's it have you heard of um sammy sheen charlie sheen's

01:20:17.840 daughter oh no haven't heard no i didn't know of her at all she started only fans when she was 18

01:20:25.920 and now she's all over tick tock complaining about how she can't get modeling gigs um because

01:20:32.640 of her past and her tattoos can you bring up sammy sheen okay yeah girl so you can um but apparently

01:20:40.720 her campaign now is just out of the fact that doing of at 18 has affected because now she's

01:20:46.880 trying to capitalize on her dad's name and try to move into like hollywood and actual modeling

01:20:51.840 but of is preventing her from uh didn't she do it with her mom am i yeah yeah yeah because denise

01:20:58.240 richard and her both had only fans what a time what a time they're here yeah like not to pull

01:21:05.840 up the ladder but like only fans is a very very specific route and it absolutely closes a lot of

01:21:13.040 other doors when you open that one yeah like that's just how it is like like that's just a fact

01:21:18.240 right and so you got to kind of understand what you're trying to maximize for um you know if

01:21:23.600 you're going to do it but um yeah so she didn't if she wanted to model she should have just kissed

01:21:28.480 that yeah if this is the route she goes yeah i mean you know young people want to say think they

01:21:33.600 can do everything right but like you know as you get older you realize you pick certain paths in

01:21:38.720 life and you can't really kind of go do the other ones after you've kind of you know halfway along

01:21:43.840 yours right yeah only fans still has a stigma even though it's becoming more mainstream like she she

01:21:50.160 claims if that's true she can't get modeling jobs because she has an only fans but then you look at

01:21:54.640 people like sydney sweeney who's like had lewds on camera and wears like sheer dresses and she's

01:22:01.040 not having a single problem so there definitely is a stigma around like i guess of stuff in general

01:22:06.560 still yeah because it's it's there's still plausible deniability and the other stuff like

01:22:11.920 oh it was just a movie scene right oh it's just you know it's just the instagram post

01:22:17.200 yeah it was a scene in the movie and edited it that way yeah but it's like at only fans

01:22:25.520 you're directly saying yes this is for sex and that's actually the the sadder part i don't

01:22:31.620 actually know what sophie rain does i imagine she's very very smart with it and like doesn't

01:22:34.660 show much but like the the people who do do porn are making it harder for sophie rain to straddle

01:22:40.620 those worlds of like let's say modeling and just posting sexy pictures because people just assume

01:22:45.500 if you're on it you do the hardest right like yeah how did um how did you like going on caleb

01:22:52.940 hammer's show oh that was fun yeah he's awesome i want him to go back and have a chat yeah that's

01:23:00.220 pretty smart guy yeah do you know what's crazy and i don't i don't mean this as a dig but he

01:23:06.860 told me i was too controversial to go on oh i thought it was ironic because i'm like you have

01:23:12.220 sex workers on your show like and you're not like not just you but there's ones that have

01:23:19.500 gone on that do like full-on camera and i'm like i'm too controversial he's kind of politically

01:23:24.780 left though right i think that's uh i i think he's i don't think he's political at all but i

01:23:30.300 just i was like i'm in a time where i'm more controversial than only he lives in and he's

01:23:35.020 from austin so he's in austin yeah that is interesting i wouldn't have uh i wouldn't have

01:23:40.940 guessed that yeah yeah i i live in st antonio and so i hung out in austin so i kind of he he's he

01:23:50.220 seems like the type from austin when i first saw him on this channel so but i spent a lot of time

01:23:55.180 there so um that makes me wonder if he'd even want me on no he'd have you on because it's um

01:24:03.580 i think it's a female dollar though because i know you guys make money off of men but like

01:24:07.820 sex work is one of the few industries you can most people are funded by women so it's like um

01:24:16.300 like most people don't want to hurt their wallet you know so having me on it's like might upset

01:24:22.220 their female audience i see what you're saying yeah so they don't want this yeah like a business

01:24:27.340 point of view yeah i guess i've been working with pros so long but i don't really see it i guess

01:24:33.660 that's the only kind of bubble i'm in but yeah i don't see that shit that controversial at all

01:24:38.460 they're a lot worse people than you pearly it's all right i'll live but i like caleb hammer i

01:24:43.500 was bummed i love his show i think it's so funny watching him like crash out on people

01:24:47.980 you weren't bad though i think you're like expenses he gave you like a what did he give

01:24:51.980 you the rating at the end i think it's a nine yeah yeah he he manages it well

01:25:02.540 so the um just one more thing about the 18 conversation so i saw this tattoo artist

01:25:10.300 from australia and she said that there are so many young people coming they turn 18 they get a tattoo

01:25:17.500 they go into a tattoo parlor and they're they want their first tattoo to be on their face

01:25:23.820 and she's like so she's literally telling other tattoo artists we have a responsibility because

01:25:30.620 she said that she won't do it she said i won't do it and it would be awful for any tattoo artist

01:25:38.140 to literally put a first person's tattoo on their face because they're 18 and they don't know

01:25:42.460 know she's literally had people i mean she did a couple times and then that person came back a year

01:25:48.220 later and was like well you're the reason why i can't get a job you're the reason why i'm getting

01:25:53.180 judged this way and stuff and so do you do you think that successful of creators it would it

01:26:03.580 would be a good idea to try to tell younger creators about the negative aspects of it or do

01:26:08.860 do you think that people are going to find out tattoos in general because like you can you

01:26:14.120 wear fake tattoos all the time when we're out in public no one knows that they're fake they look

01:26:18.440 real it's like what what's the point of getting a real tattoo at all but especially the face yeah

01:26:22.280 if it's for content like there's such great fake tattoos now like i i go out with one and then

01:26:27.080 they're everyone's like oh my god that's a fantastic task too who did that right well

01:26:31.740 what i'm saying is is the responsibility of of oh i see of informing someone that that's a

01:26:38.440 decisions that could affect your life that can kind of relate to like only fans i see what you're

01:26:42.860 saying yeah so if their business is doing tattoos do they have an obligation to tell someone who's

01:26:48.000 going to make a pretty uh likely to be regretted situation like do they kind of uh go against the

01:26:54.600 interest of their own business because they're the one doing the tattoo uh and advise someone

01:26:59.300 who's turning 18 yeah maybe the face tattoo is not the not the idea

01:27:03.000 um i mean wouldn't that be nice but do they have the obligation who am i to say

01:27:12.140 um and are women going to listen probably not probably not you tell women not to do something

01:27:19.940 if you go to a place to get a tattoo you're already at the point where you want to be an

01:27:25.040 edgelord and so when someone tells you that maybe you shouldn't do something i feel like that might

01:27:29.880 make them do it more do it harder instead of better be like you know what's actually been

01:27:35.900 trending in uh milan is uh like just make up some shit somewhere not on the face you know what now

01:27:42.120 that you say you don't want me to do it do it in bold oh man yes oh what do you guys think of this

01:27:48.900 actually let me go back to this only fans model faces backlash for reporting speaking for

01:27:55.500 reportedly speaking to 1 200 students wait let me like bringing old me yeah you want to hear the

01:28:04.620 funniest thing uh when she was coming up in like 2020 21 like i feel like high schools and and

01:28:12.300 small colleges community colleges they don't do good research because there was like a couple

01:28:16.620 of years where we got so many offers for amaranth to do commencement speeches for high school no yeah

01:28:24.300 yeah yeah yeah and i was like hey you you need to like google better who you're asking we would

01:28:29.020 turn it down because we're like dude you don't know what the you're doing um and i guess she

01:28:33.020 just said yes no way so you guys could you you should have did it that would have been hilarious

01:28:41.100 that would have been the funny oh my god i would cry laughing if you

01:28:45.340 like you want to hear the funniest story that you might appreciate um we got cock blocked

01:28:54.520 because otherwise you would have seen a headline that said senator elizabeth warren drinks vagina

01:29:01.120 beer because during the biden uh campaign thing senator warren was trying to look hip and so she

01:29:07.600 invited amaranth on and then her staffers were like please bring your beer by the way senator

01:29:13.080 warn wants to try it and like i remember thinking like do you know what the you're doing

01:29:18.440 like and it turns out that she just thought she owned a beer brand and that she did not realize

01:29:23.960 it was the thing and she almost drank it on national television wait but why didn't you go

01:29:29.640 that would have been so funny yeah we got no we got caught blocked by uh like uh you know like

01:29:34.680 someone uh in our legal side who thought we'd get sued but i was like dude they asked for it like i

01:29:39.800 was very upset that they they they went in that would have been crazy yeah actually do you know

01:29:45.680 it'd be a funny video to try to see how many like professional environments she can infiltrate and

01:29:52.020 just be like online famous just like just to say yes to things yeah like that would just be i'm

01:30:00.460 just envisioning her like seriously giving one of these speeches i like i would pay so much money

01:30:07.660 to go watch that it's so awesome the more serious the more the more slutty you can dress and the

01:30:15.940 more serious you act it would be so funny yeah you have to have like a pantsuit and those big

01:30:23.580 rim glasses the funny thing is the entire student body would know instantly right like like they

01:30:29.960 would know and the the faculty would be sitting there like like not understanding what's like

01:30:34.320 happening why is everyone giggling and that'd be so awesome wait in a sharpie

01:30:42.880 can you run for mayor just because it would be funny

01:30:48.240 can you run for mayor or like senator or something because it would be so funny

01:30:52.640 maybe if we moved to a smaller town i don't know that's a pretty good publicity bomb just

01:30:56.080 announce that you're running for me no because it would be sharing it'd be funnier if she won

01:31:02.000 yeah she could what was your experience like on um on g4 i barely remember it what was that show

01:31:11.600 again remember they brought back g4 for for a little bit but it crashed and burned because it

01:31:19.160 was awful it was a austin show was collabing with them i think and you were there doing austin show

01:31:24.740 so then they had you do what we were doing i remember his show but i don't remember the other

01:31:29.040 show that we did after don't worry about it yeah yeah it was i just wanted to know it wasn't

01:31:35.040 memorable enough okay good i thought so who is i remember they were all very like woke

01:31:41.040 it was the only thing i remember i was like okay yeah that whole thing crashed and burned we all

01:31:45.520 knew it would and then they brought in rent on there as like a last gasp for the for the for

01:31:52.000 the show and the whole she did it as a favor because she's friends with austin's show yeah

01:31:55.360 I didn't know what was happening.

01:31:57.120 They were like,

01:31:57.560 we're over here.

01:32:00.340 Who's the biggest celebrity

01:32:01.780 that's been in your DMs?

01:32:08.080 It has to be Kanye, right?

01:32:09.580 I think so.

01:32:10.320 Wait, Kanye DM'd you?

01:32:12.160 It was a controversial thing

01:32:13.460 because people don't want to believe it.

01:32:15.280 And I don't even know

01:32:15.980 what the point was

01:32:17.400 other than the obvious.

01:32:19.380 I don't know.

01:32:19.760 Maybe he was just being edgy.

01:32:22.100 What did he say?

01:32:22.980 It didn't go very far

01:32:23.940 because she tweeted about it

01:32:24.980 then like oh you tweeted it yeah it's funny yeah that's funny yeah there's like a lot of like

01:32:35.700 rappers and things like that all the time there's some rapper wanted feet pics yeah like and we were

01:32:40.900 gonna talk about it but then like with staffers we're like no no this guy's really controversial

01:32:44.660 you don't want to even say he asked for feet pics i was like really like i don't think i ever said

01:32:49.700 his name yeah but but yeah i was gonna say it now i think you guys don't know rappers at all that's

01:32:55.140 the sad part like i'm not with it you know and so like they're like oh that guy's really famous i'm

01:32:58.900 like okay yeah we'd have to look it up yeah a little something but he was yeah he's very like

01:33:05.460 very controversial in that moment for whatever reason there's a lot of lils out there though

01:33:09.300 yeah one of the lils yeah if i i don't know um lindsey says she's just showing support

01:33:20.580 dominican uh shrek says do the curtains match the drape you can answer that or not

01:33:26.660 curtains and drapes are the same thing okay well you should subscribe to our only fans and find

01:33:31.700 uh timothy he looks like jet lee with a hat on i've also gotten like uh was it cuban cuban pimp

01:33:42.180 yeah you've also gotten michael jackson that's true not this hat different ones

01:33:47.220 yeah yeah um well this has been fun thanks for coming on guys um do you have any other

01:33:55.620 you know tips for someone that wants to start an only fans for the 18 year old women out there

01:34:01.700 Uh, maybe close your eggs and log off wine, go outside.

01:34:07.560 Yeah.

01:34:07.720 I think the, the, the advice would be very like, unfortunately, very, uh, like cliche.

01:34:12.240 It's that like, uh, online branding, personal branding is like the most important thing

01:34:15.760 in the world for the foreseeable future.

01:34:17.580 And so whether it's only fans or something else, like you should build as big of a brand

01:34:22.080 as you, you can, cause you're going to be able to monetize it.

01:34:24.600 You'll figure out how to monetize it later.

01:34:26.780 Um, but like, that's just like the best thing you could be doing for yourself, um, at a

01:34:30.740 young age, I think.

01:34:31.700 like even if you wanted to go into politics i think it's gonna fucking matter like sorry

01:34:36.600 it's gonna matter like beyond you know like kind of anything else you could be doing

01:34:40.940 do you guys ever big time because because pearl never big times and this is my my third time

01:34:48.300 talking to both you and you both you two are are so easygoing such great conversationalist do you

01:34:57.060 ever big time at all like do you know who the f i am i'm amaranth i'm i'm amaranth i'm nick lee

01:35:03.600 or or are you always this humble oh no i do it all the time for i think it's funny usually small

01:35:09.540 time people will come up to us if we're like renaissance festival or something and they're

01:35:13.380 like wait do you stream are you like i'm like no he streams i'm just right yeah i i big time

01:35:21.180 someone like yesterday it was like uh i took an employee to go buy a suit from suit supply

01:35:25.980 and the guy who was helping us i was i was trying to be like real nice and humble but he was just

01:35:30.340 like uh like uh no no no you don't understand suits and i was like dude like the people who

01:35:36.560 invented suits savile row i fly them to my you know my fucking room up here and they measure me

01:35:41.980 in person like like on like you know wall street like style like like i get like the biggest tailors

01:35:47.460 in the world just coming to see me i think i understand suits and like he saw like my watch

01:35:52.700 he was just like oh yeah nick lee will be cast by netflix in the john wayne remake i don't know

01:36:00.940 who that is but okay i don't know who john wayne is i don't watch movies i mean you tell me you

01:36:09.180 tell me a youtuber i'd know it but i don't watch movies have sucked since i've been alive pretty

01:36:14.300 much they've been super whoa always like a 60s era like classic hollywood guy like the western

01:36:19.980 guy the duke why would i know that i was if you saw a picture of him i think you'd you'd know him

01:36:24.140 like nowadays people are like oh like you know like yeah he's played some of the most masculine

01:36:30.300 protagonists in the history of film so they would call it toxic masculinity today yes they would

01:36:37.500 unfortunately yeah um well thanks so much for coming on i appreciate it um where can the people

01:36:44.060 find you um for me i'm still i still got down bad.com is my link tree domain basically uh stream

01:36:54.860 on twitch and kick still just under amaranth but he's changed his name yeah well on twitter i'm

01:37:00.300 nick wickley um but on kick i'm nick lee uh just keep it simple cool well thanks for coming guys

01:37:07.500 i appreciate it yeah thanks for having always good talking to you guys and once again always

01:37:13.420 such a great interaction for all the hard work you've done and the impact that you've made

01:37:19.260 every time you're on camera you guys are just so humble because it's so good to talk to and

01:37:23.900 listen to so thanks for stopping by i really appreciate it yeah yeah it's always a great

01:37:28.060 conversation with you guys thanks for having us thanks for coming

01:37:36.540 nice yeah that was fun that was awesome yeah it's like rare it's rare you get an only fans

01:37:42.860 girl that doesn't have a big ego yeah or you know if she does we don't know about it yeah you know

01:37:50.140 so you never know i've never been mogged so hard all the chat it's like she's so pretty like i

01:37:59.980 could see why she's a big following go ahead yeah and um nick lee and amaranth they're one of those

01:38:07.500 people were um because they said earlier a lot of people think it's easy and they've done the work

01:38:14.460 i i would hate for people to think that amaranth and nick lee didn't do the work to get to where

01:38:20.780 they are now because of it's just like you youtube in a way where you you either have or you don't

01:38:27.420 you have the work ethic and you don't it's like guys don't ever doubt the fact that that pearl

01:38:33.420 has done the work to be where she is right now it's taken a lot of work and a lot of people that

01:38:39.020 started when she did fell off because they didn't want to do the work it's the same thing with

01:38:43.900 amaranth and nick lee you know i should have asked what i would make

01:38:51.500 i'm trying to fund this divorce docu maybe maybe it's what i got to do you know i'm just kidding

01:38:56.780 i would never do that but actually that would have been definitely make make as much as lil tay

01:39:03.420 i don't know there i mean that's a girl 10 years younger i liked what she said she's like um

01:39:10.140 i i don't compete with a woman 10 years younger than me i'm like that's the wisest thing i've

01:39:14.300 ever heard yeah yeah don't compete because you'll lose just find a new buyer yeah and

01:39:21.100 honestly when she says that she hasn't gotten any work done i believe her

01:39:24.700 um

01:39:27.820 uh i believe for the most part i think maybe botox i don't know what her actually i have

01:39:38.080 to look at her age amaranth age i think she's 30. 32 she's had light botox i'd bet money

01:39:46.040 no fans no respectfully yeah but you know the fact that so many women are are getting bbls

01:39:54.400 and freaking jaw surgery and uh this one girl she's a famous model in europe but she's from

01:40:01.840 the middle east and she got um they kept making fun of her because of her forehead

01:40:08.640 she's like 4.6 million followers on instagram so she got the um hair transplant to make

01:40:15.440 her forehead smaller i mean with a face card like this i mean why would you need it

01:40:20.880 like you know what i mean it's like uh when you're out because i would put her in the beautiful

01:40:28.780 category like i would put her eight eight plus i think she's an eight because an eight is is

01:40:38.200 pretty but still has that that girl next door appeal yeah well she's got butt and boobs so

01:40:45.200 anyways it it's crazy that when nick lee remember the last time he was on the show

01:40:51.260 he talked about when he first met her and she was this like nerdy cosplay girl that had no idea

01:40:56.020 how hot she was insane yeah well um that's all i got today i'm gonna do the ghetto shit show

01:41:07.140 i realized i'm supposed to do something tomorrow so i'm gonna change the title because i wasn't

01:41:13.500 sure if they were coming so i didn't know what to title it i am gonna do that show in maybe tomorrow

01:41:20.140 or saturday that is coming so uh and i'm i think i'm gonna offer calls so if you've ever seen a

01:41:26.580 black guy do ghetto shit even when he's making good money doug i know you have oh yeah yes uh-huh

01:41:34.300 so literally we're gonna have a show where in fact you can talk about celebrities even

01:41:40.000 who is a celebrity especially a person of color who just had it all and just just made a stupid

01:41:48.420 decision based upon chasing pussy or some kind of whatever and and lost it yeah i realized

01:41:56.040 everyone's saying i'm giving amareth too high of a rating look look at whatever she moggs everybody

01:42:02.620 so hard even at 32 she mogs the whole table so hard like it's not even close and look at her

01:42:12.220 results yeah sorry eight eight still girl next door beautiful maybe i would maybe give you a

01:42:20.160 seven if you really want to look but she's that's top top percentage okay eights do better on uh on

01:42:30.960 os then like nines and tens because of that yeah i would agree yeah okay cool yeah but okay guys um

01:42:42.160 thank you for watching doug mpa thanks for coming up he came up last minute because i was blanking

01:42:47.840 on some questions so i was like let's bring him up um announcements um i started the calls today

01:42:54.880 so i am gonna keep calling you guys give me i gotta get through them um if i call you i gotta

01:43:01.760 limit it to a certain amount of time per person so just you know try to keep it under 10 minutes

01:43:09.520 um trying to think what else um is there any other announcements we have oh i'm working on

01:43:18.880 my thin stake abilities and i will i will keep you guys posted if you want to if you want to

01:43:23.680 oh the discord um can we put the discord link um in the comments after the show

01:43:30.960 yeah i can do that it's just the same one i sent you if you want to join the discord i'd

01:43:34.880 like to get to a thousand people in the discord so thanks for watching guys i appreciate it

01:43:40.160 please like the video subscribe to the channel do i have a cute toes and feet no i don't i actually

01:43:46.560 i have pretty ugly my feet are giant i have very big feet so i'm like i do not have cute feet

01:43:54.000 i have ugly feet it's like i got really long toes like it's just not it's just not a cute

01:44:00.480 i'd never show my feet because um like i think i would sell i'm not above selling feet picks

01:44:05.600 like i don't want to act like i'm like that good of a person um you know for the right price who

01:44:10.720 knows but i just couldn't do it because it's like it's like if you want to sell a painting you want

01:44:17.440 it to be like picasso and if someone gives you a bajillion dollars and you know it's just like

01:44:21.840 a splatter on a pay it's like something it just feels wrong it feels wrong to sell feet picks with

01:44:26.640 what i got going on down there feels wrong i'd make millions i don't think so i don't think so

01:44:34.960 Well, anyways, guys, I'm tired, so I'm going to go to bed.

01:44:39.220 Thanks for watching.

01:44:40.240 Make sure you like the video, subscribe to the channel, and I'll see you next time.

01:44:43.760 Bye-bye.

Pearl - December 12, 2025

Amouranth & Nick Lee Join Pearl

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