Pearl - Andrew Wilson Returns to Pearl Daily ｜ Amouranth's Husband Calls in

00:00:00.000 what up guys welcome to another episode of pearl daily here on the audacity network

00:00:10.540 so today we're having a special guest on the show we're bringing back andrew wilson so as you guys

00:00:17.500 know me and andrew wilson did debate um last week and um it was really good back and forth that i

00:00:24.520 didn't really expect we were going to have. And so we decided to continue the conversation today.

00:00:30.200 But before we get into that, I do have a couple announcements for you. So the first thing is we

00:00:35.540 are launching Audacity Academy. Sorry, it's actually called Pearl Academy on Wednesday.

00:00:42.160 So if you guys sign up for the Audacity Network now, you're going to be automatically entered

00:00:48.120 into this. It's going to be a community on school. And all we're going to do is we're going to enter

00:00:54.440 your email into the school group so that's going to start on Wednesday so if you want to be a part

00:00:59.120 of that it's going to be a pretty expensive it's going to be about two grand lifetime purchase

00:01:05.000 because I'm bringing in really smart intelligent men to give you presentations on how to improve

00:01:10.360 your love lives how to improve your finances etc etc and these are people that have taken me years

00:01:18.200 to get in contact with so it's really going to be worth your money and you can get it for 10 bucks

00:01:22.460 a month, a hundred bucks a year. If you buy it now, Wednesday, it's going to be very expensive.

00:01:28.160 So I don't want any complaints about the price. Cause I've been telling you for months,

00:01:31.760 this is going up. It's happening Wednesday. Okay. Second thing is later in the show,

00:01:37.420 we're going to have on Amarith's husband. Um, I'm going to fill you in on that story,

00:01:41.460 but that's later. And then third, I want to show you guys the documentary trailer. So I've actually,

00:01:48.220 um me and andrew wilson's debate on actually here let me send him the zoom

00:01:56.620 we were kind of going back about the question what the heck there we go what's in it for men

00:02:04.660 so let me show you guys the documentary trailer i just posted it today and yesterday on twitter

00:02:12.420 so we're going to react to this okay

00:02:15.480 oh man

00:02:17.500 hold on

00:02:20.920 oh my gosh

00:02:25.760 hold on guys

00:02:28.180 All right.

00:02:58.160 with me. Sorry, guys. Okay. All right. Now, let's watch the trailer together.

00:03:11.980 This clip going viral online of a dozen women being asked the following question.

00:03:17.480 Do we need men? Most answered very quickly, no, because men are useless.

00:03:23.840 this headline from the hill it caught my eye most young men are single most young women are not

00:03:31.360 young men have fallen faster than any demographic in america over the last 40 years it's a different

00:03:36.440 world now like we don't need men the way that they used to no one needs men the future is female

00:03:42.000 men and women are drifting further apart and society is crumbling because of it

00:03:50.200 A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.

00:03:53.260 You've kind of got the trad con versus red pill thing.

00:03:55.960 This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.

00:03:59.540 You need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.

00:04:03.620 Marriage is a bond and it's a sacred bond.

00:04:06.240 It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.

00:04:09.260 Now many of the red pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.

00:04:14.180 Hannah Pearl Davis or just pearly things.

00:04:17.540 One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.

00:04:21.520 She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.

00:04:24.380 Because if me and you were in a business contract, you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.

00:04:29.540 Gee, what could go wrong there?

00:04:31.700 74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.

00:04:35.280 Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.

00:04:38.200 Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.

00:04:40.840 I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.

00:04:45.700 Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.

00:04:49.040 You need no evidence.

00:04:50.160 When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for.

00:04:53.880 And you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.

00:04:57.200 I interviewed them on the other side.

00:04:59.720 I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.

00:05:02.040 How much did you spend trying to get him back?

00:05:04.180 The legal fees alone was about $200,000.

00:05:06.520 Before you know it, you're homeless.

00:05:07.980 You're literally just thrown out onto the street.

00:05:09.880 We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.

00:05:12.340 Wives are taught to leave their husbands.

00:05:14.000 and then daughters grow up without their fathers.

00:05:16.600 Family is the foundation of society.

00:05:18.300 Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.

00:05:21.480 A lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole

00:05:23.940 of happiness, endless happiness.

00:05:25.780 Feminism's biggest failure is it lies to women.

00:05:27.740 We tell women to date as many guys as possible.

00:05:29.580 We tell them to put off family into marriage.

00:05:31.300 You are allowed to leave your perfect husband.

00:05:34.100 You are allowed to end a relationship

00:05:36.160 with a really great boyfriend.

00:05:38.520 Oh, freeze your eggs, have an abortion.

00:05:40.320 What? You're evil.

00:05:41.560 I don't think there's anything else in life

00:05:42.880 that we actually ever go into preparing to fail right like if you have the mentality of this is

00:05:47.420 going to go wrong and be pessimistic naturally the outcome is going to be that it's going to

00:05:51.520 fail anyway it's self-sabotage that's the thing like women are so willing to leave marriages

00:05:55.740 because they're not happy this is not about happiness the most important thing is the

00:06:00.280 children and the problem is we have a modern society where it's me me me my feelings leave

00:06:05.740 when i feel like it instead of doing what's best for the kids this myth that we live in an age of

00:06:11.840 male privilege where's my male privilege they think well men have all the rights they have

00:06:15.200 all the power privilege patriarchal system that we have why doesn't our society care about men's

00:06:20.480 rights i have no friends no white and no social life men are alone in this situation men are

00:06:26.540 homeless men are thinking about eating guns i've seen so many men on on the brink of suicide and

00:06:31.840 they didn't do anything wrong how are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and

00:06:37.340 die to defend the country.

00:06:38.900 The men are the ones that build and maintain

00:06:41.360 all the infrastructure.

00:06:42.900 Women are helplessly dependent upon men.

00:06:45.380 The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose,

00:06:48.520 to alcohol, three times higher among men than among women.

00:06:52.460 Culture is telling men, you are no good.

00:06:54.320 You've got to get your act together.

00:06:55.560 I think men have failed themselves.

00:06:57.160 What kind of a man are you?

00:06:58.420 What kind of a woman are you going to attract?

00:07:00.360 If men are in trouble, so are women.

00:07:03.020 Everybody knows this is a huge problem,

00:07:05.000 but nobody wants to admit it.

00:07:06.680 Every single woman at the table said they wanted a man.

00:07:08.880 500K, 500K, 300K, 200K.

00:07:11.420 Am I crazy?

00:07:12.120 Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.

00:07:14.380 If men make less than women,

00:07:16.220 women don't want to marry them.

00:07:18.000 So you know who wants more economically

00:07:19.620 and emotionally viable men?

00:07:21.900 Women.

00:07:23.660 I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.

00:07:25.540 I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.

00:07:27.760 I'm over it.

00:07:28.940 When is it going to be my turn?

00:07:30.240 Where are we meeting the men that don't suck?

00:07:32.000 I can't keep having these same conversations.

00:07:34.800 The only simp here is you, Pearl.

00:07:36.080 You simp for men.

00:07:36.920 No, I think you simp for women.

00:07:38.120 She's a provocateur, she says stupid stuff,

00:07:40.220 but Pearl is right about this.

00:07:41.560 It's already happening, it's just not out in the open yet.

00:07:44.160 Now it's just hookup culture is gonna be our fairytale

00:07:46.480 ending because men don't want a wife

00:07:48.380 and women can't find a husband.

00:07:49.760 The future, if everybody follows your path,

00:07:52.840 is there is no future.

00:07:54.020 We go into population decline

00:07:55.560 and our economy goes into decline.

00:07:57.780 Civilization will crumble.

00:07:59.680 The American story does not end well.

00:08:02.200 This is an existential crisis failing young men.

00:08:06.080 so the whole idea the whole question of this documentary is really you know all these

00:08:14.580 commentators and this is kind of what inspired um the question I asked Andrew this weekend we

00:08:19.160 had a debate um where I just kept asking him the question what do men get out of marriage

00:08:24.440 and I kept seeing all these like the smartest people way smarter than me right and they're

00:08:30.580 like, why is the birth rate falling? Why are men dropping out of the workforce? Why are men not

00:08:39.000 going to school? Why aren't they making as much money? And these would be people that were so

00:08:44.460 much smarter than me. And I just keep asking the question, what does he get? And until conservatives,

00:08:52.840 the right, the left, whoever can answer that question, men naturally do a cost benefit analysis

00:09:00.240 and the trends are just going to keep going the way they're going until they can answer this

00:09:05.160 question and have a good answer um now I really want to finish this documentary um we've put

00:09:11.680 together a lot of the um footage the past few years um the challenge was when we started when

00:09:20.240 we collected all this footage we didn't really know what we were doing and if you go through this

00:09:24.480 a lot of this kind of looks like low budget. And my goal is I really want to refilm this.

00:09:31.080 A lot of the interviews of guys we already had in and they'd be willing to come back,

00:09:35.400 but just like a higher quality, a little bit more professional. So it looks like a Netflix

00:09:41.560 level, like a Netflix grade documentary. The challenge is that's very, very expensive.

00:09:47.380 The quotes I've been given are half a million to a million dollars. Now,

00:09:53.320 we've we're considering doing it in-house but again you got to hire someone full-time

00:09:59.740 to do that in-house and when we were demonetized a year and a half to be honest guys it just really

00:10:06.340 like um it just really sucked like we really had to put this on pause for like a year and a half

00:10:12.300 um and and we put in so much work and do it was the unfortunate thing um but so if you guys want

00:10:20.160 to donate to this it's the link the gofundme is in the description if you have a a big donation

00:10:26.980 that you want to make you can email me just pearly things at gmail.com right now we're

00:10:30.800 distributing directly um we're in talks with some people to distribute through other platforms but

00:10:36.820 right now we're just going to do it on our app the audacity network um we're open to other

00:10:42.680 opportunities that's fine but a lot of people that have asked me um have been asking about

00:10:47.680 distribution um but yeah if we want to get it done that's really what it's going to cost um

00:10:53.840 i think maybe for 100 to like 200 um we could finish like because we need to get a full-time

00:11:01.980 person on this and a lot of the good people are just expensive um

00:11:06.880 yeah so that's really that's really what we're doing with the documentary

00:11:13.220 the i think right now we're at like 15 000 and we had a decent donation someone donated directly so

00:11:22.280 anyways the link to that's in the description if you want to donate all right now we're going to

00:11:28.100 talk to andrew wilson the 304 destroyer how's it going andrew good can you hear me okay i can hear

00:11:36.880 you perfect how are you good i'm doing really well thanks for having me back i wanted to revisit the

00:11:42.700 conversation we'd had. Um, when I went out there in person, I thought we had kind of a bit of a

00:11:49.080 spirited back and forth. I know that we agree on a lot of descriptors, but, um, some of the

00:11:53.720 prescriptors I thought we could, we could get into again. Um, after I was thinking about some of your

00:11:59.320 points, especially so moving back, I wanted to start with this. Um, do you agree with me that

00:12:06.820 promiscuity in women is generally bad? Sure. You don't think that that's a good thing?

00:12:16.720 I don't really want to go down that rabbit hole because good and bad doesn't matter. I'm in the

00:12:21.880 business of predicting. Okay. Okay. So if I had to predict where it's going to go, women are going

00:12:27.720 to keep getting promiscuous. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with that. So your predictive model, I agree.

00:12:32.400 I'm not going to get into like morals or ethics with you. That's not what I mean by good or bad,

00:12:35.780 like moral or immoral right right but like is it bad for women generally to be promiscuous

00:12:41.700 like does it lower their value structure um you could say that yeah but i don't really always see

00:12:50.960 promiscuous women have bad outcomes in real life unfortunately yeah well the thing is is like

00:12:58.260 because if it is the case that you see you think that men are going to check out a society they're

00:13:03.740 going to well they're going to check out become promiscuous because marriage is a raw deal right

00:13:07.200 then you're actually assigning some men don't care enough to even like like some men are just

00:13:13.460 going to check out they're not even going to try to get sex yeah yeah i agree i agree with that so

00:13:17.520 but wouldn't you be assigning these promiscuous women value then wouldn't they actually be a

00:13:22.240 valuable asset to society if it is the case that if men can't get married and can just play the

00:13:27.240 field and have sex with tons of women wouldn't they actually be very valuable to men then

00:13:31.440 why would they be valuable to men well because obviously men want to fuck them right and if

00:13:36.300 they're if they're loose and willing to well men need sex right yeah that is a need for a guy so

00:13:41.020 then these women would be valuable right well i think if they were valuable they'd marry them

00:13:46.460 wouldn't they well so yeah like that's the fundamental question though if you're not going

00:13:50.280 to marry that's the whole point if you're not going to marry them and you're just going to

00:13:53.960 have sex with them then the value is in the sex itself yeah i mean men do want to have sex yeah

00:14:00.540 Yeah. So then that would be what would make women valuable is that they were essentially, that they were hoes essentially would make them valuable.

00:14:08.320 I mean, they bring more value than the wives that are married and they don't sleep with their husbands.

00:14:13.140 You think hoes bring more value than wives?

00:14:16.180 Than ones that don't sleep with their husbands, which is really common.

00:14:20.860 Yeah. Well, I went through and pulled a bunch of the stats, right?

00:14:24.560 So, especially when it comes to sexless marriages, that usually happens years into the marriage, over a decade, in fact, before that starts.

00:14:34.740 It's after the youngest kid goes to preschool.

00:14:37.840 Yeah, yeah, that's often the case.

00:14:40.240 And often those are only for limited amounts of time, right?

00:14:43.320 Though not always, right?

00:14:44.520 But it's actually a more isolated case.

00:14:46.880 When I look at the, this is from Petrelli, I'm sorry, Petrelli Prevatera, LLC.

00:14:53.360 they pulled up a they made a study on this we're talking about christian marriage because you're

00:14:57.440 asking what's the incentive for men to get married well from a secular standpoint i think i agree with

00:15:01.660 you that secularist men probably shouldn't it looks like we're in a secular society andrew

00:15:09.240 not yet we're getting there but we're not there yet you don't think it's pretty secular now

00:15:14.560 not yet like what like what percent of people even attend church weekly well that's true but

00:15:20.740 70% of the population does consider themselves to be at least identify, self-identifies as

00:15:26.940 Christian.

00:15:27.400 But like, don't you need actions to match that?

00:15:30.460 Yeah, you do.

00:15:31.440 But interestingly enough, there must be because it's only 20, 25% of Christian marriages

00:15:36.720 which end in divorce at all.

00:15:38.540 I mean, that's, again, what you guys say, right?

00:15:42.380 I mean, that's what the stats show.

00:15:44.800 Okay.

00:15:45.780 Yeah, 20 to 25%.

00:15:47.700 But Gen Z, you don't know what Gen Z is going to be.

00:15:50.740 and that's the i mean wouldn't they follow the same trends roughly i would guess it would be worse

00:15:57.700 why because gen z women are the first women that are on social media

00:16:04.640 plus divorce keeps going up over time

00:16:08.800 well uh divorce is lower now than it has been right because people aren't getting married

00:16:16.640 because you're kind of trying to do the divorce isn't going on the thing is you're trying to

00:16:20.760 divert from the question if you want marriage to increase you have to give a good answer to

00:16:25.640 the question because it's the only way that you can have what's the only way you can have children

00:16:29.620 without single motherhood what do children get out of marriage uh well if they if mommy and

00:16:35.880 daddy aren't married right then the children have very very bad outcomes single mother homes have

00:16:41.860 terrible outcomes and single father homes aren't tenable generally speaking because they're the

00:16:46.980 working parent right so the only way for men to have families is through marriage so what do women

00:16:52.140 get out of marriage uh they generally get resources they generally get resources and

00:16:57.600 they get access to status social status uh security things like this and what do men get

00:17:03.420 out of marriage they get children out of marriage okay and what do they get out of marriage that

00:17:10.120 they couldn't get from just a live-in girlfriend mothers so here's well an intact family in other

00:17:17.400 words so here's the thing if you have a woman if the woman lives with him yeah well the thing is

00:17:24.260 is when we look at and the other and the other hang on hang on well let me respond to it if we

00:17:28.740 look at the social data for what you're talking about this happens all the time that's called a

00:17:33.840 single mom right the you live with the chick you impregnate the chick you're not married to the

00:17:38.640 check. Crowder's in the same position. So are a lot of like, he doesn't have children with some,

00:17:45.860 no, he doesn't. He doesn't have children with a, with some live in girlfriend. Right. Right. But

00:17:50.500 he's not with the mother of his kids now. He had a really public divorce. Yeah. But there's a

00:17:54.400 different, like, I know, but my point is you can say data, data, data, all you want. But when we're

00:17:59.160 like, people are witnessing conservative people that pushed a lot of this stuff, getting divorced,

00:18:05.380 like men are going to naturally do a cost-benefit analysis and realize there's no difference

00:18:11.000 so here's the cost benefit here's a cost-benefit analysis and if you say my other question too

00:18:18.280 would be who do the kids belong to do they belong to him or do they belong to her yeah so i believe

00:18:23.900 in uh patrilineal society i think that children belong to their fathers right and always have

00:18:29.220 thought so and that would be a form of reform inside of the court by the way traditionally

00:18:33.280 this was always the way it happened but in society today where women get custody 90 percent of the

00:18:38.260 time who do the kids belong to they do that's not the case anymore they don't get it 90 percent of

00:18:43.600 the time now do they belong to her or do they belong to him well they belong to the court

00:18:48.760 system they're the ones who make the allocation and where are the majority of the time who gets

00:18:52.900 custody yeah that's generally speaking women i agree so what do men get out of marriage

00:18:58.880 if the majority of the time the kids belong to her and not him.

00:19:02.960 Okay, but here's the thing.

00:19:04.300 You've got to let me actually answer.

00:19:05.920 Okay.

00:19:06.360 So I'll try to answer this question, but it's comprehensive.

00:19:09.260 So step one, you have to reform the system, the court system.

00:19:13.940 Men have to move towards the reformation of the court system.

00:19:17.880 Is that challenging?

00:19:19.700 Yes, but prenuptial agreements, as cited, I went and looked at the data again.

00:19:24.020 They are mostly enforced.

00:19:26.220 That is the case.

00:19:27.520 Right, but when they're canceled,

00:19:28.880 contested hang on hang on when they're when they're let me finish pearl when they're contested

00:19:32.940 you know because when they're contested because i'm not allowed to i'm not allowed to make a point

00:19:37.180 you're still gonna you're still gonna get dragged to court that's the problem so a lot of guys

00:19:42.740 if the prenup is contested you're not gonna get dragged to court that this is the this is the

00:19:46.900 issue right like this is a performative contradiction here's how okay because you

00:19:51.300 say that women are reliant upon these men for resources that's what women are getting out of

00:19:55.400 it so why is it if you had a prenup they're not going to get resources why would they drag them

00:19:59.140 to court why because they're spiteful why did why did crowder's wife it would be why did cry

00:20:05.940 crowder's wife she got a bunch of money i know but why did crowder's wife leak footage to the

00:20:11.880 press she didn't have to do that she'd probably because she thought it would help her case for

00:20:15.420 resources right but the the problem is in the court of public opinion women are spiteful it's

00:20:22.300 not always about money. Ashley St. Clair was offered a ton of money just to shut up, right?

00:20:27.860 She didn't shut up. Yeah, but here's the thing, right? Ashley St. Clair is going to get the money

00:20:32.520 either way, right? She has the kid in the arrangement. That was not a marriage. Inside

00:20:37.280 of a marriage, if Crowder had signed a prenup, I bet you things would have been completely different

00:20:41.760 across the board. Same thing with most men who are wealthy, who signed prenuptial agreements.

00:20:46.600 They end up, women want the resources. That's the whole game, right? I want the resources,

00:20:51.180 resources if they can't get the resources it's an incentive for the behavior not only that but

00:20:56.440 here's the other thing um if if you promote against marriage against the idea of marriage

00:21:01.780 and i'm not saying that you like this idea that i'm michael knowles or something i'm telling men

00:21:06.720 just take the plunge and take the risks no we're both doing risk mitigation pearl's doing risk

00:21:11.980 mitigation i'm doing risk mitigation what i'm saying with pearl saying with risk mitigation

00:21:16.660 is for no man is it ever worth it so just play the field i did not say that i did not i don't

00:21:21.160 tell men what to do okay okay i don't i don't think it's my i think i think it ultimately

00:21:26.380 reduces to that though so the thing is is that my position is just this risk for risk mitigation

00:21:32.500 if you want to have children in a family the best outcome for the kids are it's going to be

00:21:37.300 marriage like no matter what it's going to be marriage um but you have to do risk mitigation

00:21:41.940 that's what's in it for the kids and for the man not for the man because when you get married

00:21:47.360 you're just adding on another layer of what of now she can go for alimony because a lot of times

00:21:55.180 it's not about the money andrew i mean yeah like sometimes it is the money but it's like

00:21:59.480 men want to stop dealing with crazy women like the the amount of money men will pay to get a

00:22:04.820 wife to stop nagging him and now she can contest she can if she chooses contest the prenup and

00:22:11.140 drag him to court he could agree with the terms that she like asks for whatever just to get it

00:22:16.400 over with. But it's like the spitefulness of women. It's not necessarily always the money.

00:22:23.740 And so again, you're going back to, well, it's best for the kids, right? But you don't answer

00:22:28.460 the question, what's best for him? Having a family is what's best for him. By every single

00:22:33.920 conceivable metric, having a family is what's best for men. It lowers the rates of STDs. The

00:22:39.340 earning income goes up. Their general welfare and happiness in a happy marriage goes way up. We can

00:22:45.160 tell because we can look at the suicidality of men who have gone through uh terrific divorces or

00:22:50.040 who stay single right and their depression rates are sky high all of these things why do you think

00:22:55.680 why do you think they make more money in marriage well that would be the incentive for their kids

00:23:00.760 well right to keep up with kids are cheap it's women's spending habits that are expensive

00:23:05.820 right the botox the clothes yeah we had your we had your wife we had your um your wife on and she

00:23:14.240 was going through the costs of kids it's not as expensive um seemingly as what people say

00:23:19.220 according to yes i just just 90 90 is up to 90 the vast overwhelming majority of prenuptial

00:23:27.700 agreements are not successfully contested in court it seems like a massive incentive for women

00:23:33.220 if they want to hold their resources even from a secular side to do this but if you combine this

00:23:37.660 with the christian side the christian ethics side of very religious women the divorce rate goes down

00:23:42.800 to damn near nil okay well do are most women religious in this society no okay but neither

00:23:50.240 are most men okay right but so now you're going into like selling your religion right well only

00:23:56.540 if you want to have a family if you want to have the most successful family right but i mean

00:24:01.040 orthodox is one percent of the population i'm not a religious show it's not just for orthodox

00:24:05.900 what i'm what i'm talking about is and again you're not really answering the question you're

00:24:11.540 saying you might get your kids no what i'm saying is that by every single conceivable metric which

00:24:18.140 is available for men men's the what is considered the loneliness epidemic or the number one reported

00:24:24.480 mental health issue for men is that they're lonely they feel lonely if that is the case

00:24:31.100 and loneliness goes away when they get married then it seems like what would be really good for

00:24:36.760 men would be to get married in a good stable relationship your counter is but there's not

00:24:41.840 that many marriageable women correct there's never always i know but you agree with that right so

00:24:47.180 most men aren't getting a marriageable woman most men never got one right so most men it's not

00:24:53.900 marriage isn't for them yeah but you can't create the conditionals most men like if like out of two

00:25:00.220 men or 10 men over six aren't going to get a good deal right which but they never did which

00:25:07.100 they never got a good deal so are you telling them to take a bad deal no i'm what i'm telling

00:25:11.740 them specifically is very simple that the historic fact of the matter is is that most men never got

00:25:17.740 to reproduce at all right your chances of reproduction now are way higher than ever

00:25:22.140 and the reason the sex drive is so high for men is because it's a biological imperative

00:25:26.460 for reproduction. Otherwise, you wouldn't get a boner and want to go have sex, right? Especially

00:25:29.960 not with good-looking, younger-looking women. That's the whole point of it. If you want

00:25:36.240 stability in society, which is good for men, you want stability against degeneracy, which is also

00:25:42.660 very good for men, then you want stable marriages for men. What does society give men in return

00:25:49.720 for producing a stable society what do they give men in return well society never gave men

00:25:56.800 anything for the production of stable societies fine but i'm asking today what do they give them

00:26:02.080 in return yeah i mean do they give them what men get what men get in exchange for having a stable

00:26:08.780 society is they get a stable society that's the exchange that's always been the exchange

00:26:13.740 like historically men have always been fodder they've always been war fodder they've always

00:26:18.220 been basically treated poorly but the idea here that well if we have to make perfect conditionals

00:26:24.320 for marriage absent any risk or mitigating risk is silly that's impossible no matter what if men

00:26:29.760 keep getting married what is the incentive for the laws to change where is well they're not well

00:26:35.080 well hang on they can still get married absent the state and that would still create conditionals for

00:26:40.720 the laws to change men keep having children what is the incentive for society to give them fairer

00:26:47.000 laws well what do you mean if they had if they have children and there's there's prenuptial

00:26:52.740 agreements in place women now have incentive to not destroy their own financial security

00:26:57.780 so but again so you're saying well she won't completely ruin your life right you're not

00:27:02.580 saying a reward yeah but like you get enthusiastic sex with a hot a hot wife but there's a lot of

00:27:09.700 you've missed the point though that there's a lot of marriages that work statistically what about

00:27:13.280 the fact that there's so many marriages that work statistically that's just not true well okay let's

00:27:18.180 look at the statistics since you want to bring them up um you're looking at an estimate of 40

00:27:23.400 percent 40 of the marriages are failing okay the vast majority of them are still still not and as

00:27:29.500 less people get married those marriages are actually what is what is the obesity rate in

00:27:34.260 america oh it's overwhelming for men and women okay are most men ecstatic to take on this enormous

00:27:40.620 risk and responsibility for a fat wife no okay so again you have to answer the question what's in it

00:27:47.200 for i'm answering the question so what's in it for men right is the only thing that's ever been

00:27:51.300 in it for men yeah family yeah and i i don't think it's going to be a good enough answer

00:27:56.040 if you're right then men are going to sign up to get married you don't have to convince me

00:28:01.360 yeah but what about what about like the qualifiers of men have to live in this world right we have

00:28:09.460 to live in this world. We live in a world full of degeneracy and basically horrifying things

00:28:15.580 because of the instability of society. And you almost disempower them in a way because you're

00:28:20.580 saying they don't have the power to change the nature of law. I just want them to make an informed

00:28:25.160 decision. Yeah. But I mean, the informed decision towards what? Their happiness?

00:28:30.480 Whatever they want to do. It's not my place to tell men. It's not my place to tell men how to

00:28:36.420 live well do you think they want to be happy though well i think that happiness is a feeling

00:28:40.880 that comes and goes so i don't really so you don't want them to be happy i think you want to do what

00:28:46.180 they want no i didn't say that i said it's a feeling that comes and goes yeah so i think i

00:28:52.400 don't think ultimately you would want men happy right um i want them to do what they want to do

00:28:59.500 okay well do you think that most men want to be happy i'm not a preacher channel right i'm not

00:29:04.880 I'm not saying that you're a preacher. I'm not preaching. Right now, I'm just talking about the

00:29:08.380 facts. The facts of the matter are, don't you think men want to be happy? Well, if marriage

00:29:14.340 makes them happy, then I'm sure they'll sign up. I'm sure the marriage rates will go up.

00:29:18.600 Yeah, that's not an answer to the question I asked. The question I asked specifically is,

00:29:23.340 do you think men want to be happy? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So if you think that men want to be happy,

00:29:31.120 and if we look at all of the data that we can possibly find on male promiscuity and happiness

00:29:36.100 it doesn't look very good for them so even if it were the case that you advocate against marriage

00:29:40.800 which is fair especially second i don't advocate against marriage i see it i see it i see it

00:29:47.920 disappearing from the middle class completely i see it just becoming um something that the rich do

00:29:54.660 and i see the birth rates continuing to decline and i see marriage going away

00:30:01.240 because people like you can't give men good answers on why they get married should okay

00:30:07.480 should wait wait should it should wait wait should accumulate that risk what is saying

00:30:13.060 you're saying you're saying you're saying risk 40 of your income for 18 years if you have two

00:30:19.060 plus children the woman can take you to court and take 40 of your income it's not that

00:30:24.600 every woman will it's that every woman can as soon as you enter into a marriage contract she

00:30:29.560 is now answer my question what did men ever get out of marriage what did men ever get out of

00:30:33.960 marriage i don't really care about what they got in answer my question i don't did they effort but

00:30:38.380 i don't care because i'm talking about i don't care if you don't care answer the question what

00:30:42.580 i don't i don't care out of marriage i don't care well it's about like because we have to operate

00:30:47.660 we have to operate for marriage what does what does the guy what does a guy care about what

00:30:52.720 happened a hundred years ago he cares about the decisions he has to make today yeah i know but

00:30:57.000 he has to use you're like a question avoiding machine no you want me to you want me to do what

00:31:02.140 you do which is prescribe i don't prescribe i'm not even asking for prescriptions i'm asking right

00:31:06.480 now for a description what did men ever get out of marriage what well i can think it's a stupid

00:31:11.300 question so like i don't think i don't think it i don't think it matters what did they ever get out

00:31:17.460 of it ever i don't know tell me you don't know no go ahead no tell me tell me they got the same

00:31:22.320 thing i'm prescribing which is a family that's that what what else would the inside and again

00:31:27.120 and if if that's so great then men will sign up if that's so great so like if a product if a

00:31:35.820 product's good there's a big demand right there is a big demand men want to get married sure then

00:31:41.720 yeah but if they wanted to they would right we talk past each other's like if you you can if

00:31:46.360 you describe all the issues that's fair right but the description of the issue is supposed to be for

00:31:51.220 the purpose of what men do best which is solving the issue i don't mind you giving all the

00:31:55.100 descriptors i think that's great but the the idea of like andrew what do men get right now that's

00:31:59.620 not a good enough reason what did men ever get out of it's the same reason it must be the best

00:32:03.880 reason then run for office run i mean i would much rather run ngos so that i could get people

00:32:10.560 in key positions to change law but i the same same principle go do what i'm saying to you is

00:32:15.160 like from a descriptive standpoint i am doing it like i have been doing it okay okay that i'm sure

00:32:20.240 there'll be great change in the next 10 years well we're gonna try and i'll be i'll be completely

00:32:24.480 wrong yeah but i mean the trends the trends can continue to nosedive but let's assume for a second

00:32:29.760 that like it all nosedives what does the future look like then well i don't think there'll be

00:32:35.840 change until my prediction is we'll only see change when society crumbles enough for women

00:32:42.320 to face the consequences of their decisions and what happens then then there might be change

00:32:49.200 that's what okay but what i would say i would i would predict that things go down until things

00:32:54.240 are fall falling apart enough and then maybe there'll be a policy change maybe meaning that

00:32:59.760 we can fix probably meaning we can fix the problems right uh not anytime soon no no but

00:33:05.680 when we reach this like plateau sure so then wouldn't it logically follow then that we should

00:33:12.080 accelerate the decline as quickly as possible to reach that plateau to fix these things sure

00:33:16.960 sure if that's yeah so sure so then so then that's an accelerationist mindset right

00:33:21.820 i'm not saying one way or the other i'm saying i don't see them changing anytime soon

00:33:27.940 that's it i don't yeah yeah i don't think i don't think in my lifetime there'll be major

00:33:34.280 but ultimately do you want to see them change it would be nice yeah so so then if that if that's

00:33:39.760 the case let's i'll just assume the position for a moment your position just descriptors here's

00:33:44.380 where we're going it would still be really wise to have men's rights advocacy groups and things

00:33:50.320 like this in place for this inevitable decline so that those types of policies can then be pushed

00:33:56.580 so that we're like ready for them right sure but the first one was in 1910 so i don't if if we're

00:34:03.340 where we are today and the first one was over a hundred years ago the first what policy no the

00:34:08.720 first men's right to advocacy i think it was around 1910 i don't know the yeah but they were

00:34:13.200 advocating for completely different things right um i mean i saw ones about divorce law early in

00:34:19.580 the 1900s off the top of my head i i don't know but yeah yeah i mean divorce it used to be we had

00:34:26.420 coverture laws so i mean coverture laws basically in that case you had to have show cause in order

00:34:32.520 to get divorce under coverture laws things like that was most of the early 1900s i believe so

00:34:37.400 the thing is interesting though is like i don't i look at this my point is i just don't see

00:34:43.060 it being effective because the last hundred years it's gotten worse not better so why would i think

00:34:48.740 okay go ahead yeah yeah but i mean ever so the thing is it's like things have gotten better

00:34:53.920 abortion laws have been rolled back right but plan advocacy has gone up true only in some states

00:35:00.380 though i went and checked the stats on that as well sex work has gone up too but you know what

00:35:04.660 else is going down is uh female promiscuity and male promiscuity over time and what's interesting

00:35:09.960 but std rates are up so how do you because sex work is up okay well if that's what you if that's

00:35:18.180 not what the guys dating are saying but okay yeah because they're dating women who have only i mean

00:35:22.760 you're talking about like one in 10 or one in 20 now it can happen only fans the sex work epidemic

00:35:28.340 has exploded stds i mean we can look at this objectively last time you dated like when's the

00:35:34.160 last time you actually dated oh it's been fucking i don't know like what 17 years so how do you how

00:35:40.880 do you think you know better than the guys dating like what's out i mean when's the last time you

00:35:44.920 dated like um a year ago okay so so from your so from your sample size you think that in 17 years

00:35:52.220 the marketplace for dating has changed so much that i'm not allowed to have any input oh no i

00:35:57.260 just don't think you really know what's on the ground um if you haven't done it in 17 years

00:36:01.700 because it's the advent of social media has changed the dating marketplace a lot like a lot

00:36:08.600 yeah why do you think wait a second back up i don't understand why you think that you couldn't

00:36:15.280 have input and research the stat i'm using the same stats you're using like it's not and i have

00:36:20.480 the same conversations with thousands of people you have men and women both um the same exact

00:36:26.660 I have the same amount of anecdotal evidence and statistics, right?

00:36:29.760 Sorry.

00:36:30.020 What I could say, maybe a better way to say it,

00:36:32.340 is I think it's like an oversimplification of the problem

00:36:35.640 when you're saying, oh, it's just like bad women that these guys are dating.

00:36:40.780 Like, I don't really think it's that simple.

00:36:42.360 That's not what I said at all.

00:36:44.140 Or it's just sex worker women that these guys are dating, right?

00:36:49.540 No, that would account for one thing, STDs.

00:36:52.080 The STD rates go sky high.

00:36:53.240 Yeah, okay.

00:36:53.780 Yeah. So what I said, what I said gave you was the answer that you're always looking for. They men get out of marriage, same thing they always got out of it, a family. And why is it that men are always gravitating towards family? Well, it seems to be biologically hardwired in them because they've always done that.

00:37:11.100 sure it is so if that's the case their happiness levels intrinsically tied to that it seems that

00:37:17.340 if you wanted to advocate for men then you would be advocating the most for the idea of keeping

00:37:22.940 marriage uh sacrosanct and also making sure that these things got reformed as quick as possible

00:37:30.540 okay if someone took your prescription what is your can you give me like step by step your

00:37:35.340 prescription for how men if you just get married stay married what's your prescription how well

00:37:40.720 first of all i wouldn't say you you keep on framing this as all i'm saying take a plunge

00:37:45.300 when i'm not saying it's totally fine tell me your what's beginning to end first first of all

00:37:49.620 i would look at i would look at these stats no not the stats where should they source the women

00:37:54.640 from like what state should they go to what church i'm guessing you're going to say orthodox

00:38:00.700 Okay, so I'll answer your question, right?

00:38:03.680 You're not going to find huge variances state by state.

00:38:06.960 You're just not going to, okay?

00:38:08.760 But you can definitely upgrade the chances of you finding a woman who's not going to have these behaviors, which you and I would both consider non-optimal.

00:38:18.680 So it wouldn't just be the Orthodox Church, Roman Catholic Church, and even Protestants.

00:38:23.000 as long as as long as the worship is more than one time per week right their marriage rates

00:38:29.120 significantly go down if you get married as a virgin you almost never get a divorce because

00:38:33.500 your sample size is super low um so are you saying they should they should find a virgin

00:38:38.940 or do you expect do you think that's realistic nowadays to find a virgin woman yeah yeah no no

00:38:45.240 i'm giving you a step-by-step prescription of all the things you can do to mitigate right no but i'm

00:38:49.680 i'm not i'm not saying mitigate risk i'm saying do they download a dating app are they going to

00:38:53.960 go on instagram how are they going to do it okay so go to church yeah yeah so i'll walk through it

00:39:01.440 right but i'm what we're talking about is risk mitigation so let's start with risk mitigation

00:39:05.900 your chances i want the dating process from beginning to end okay we'll give go ahead what

00:39:12.240 you want me to give a dating process from beginning to end for every individual man on

00:39:17.320 planet earth okay if a guy wants to go on your prescription no the dating process is going to be

00:39:22.900 very varied on region it's going to be varied on man it's going to be varied on what options

00:39:28.280 are available but what you can look at is all the signs of the universals which mitigate risk

00:39:32.820 what you're asking is for an absurdity it's like me asking me tell me step by step well tell me

00:39:37.280 step by step how do i become a successful podcaster oh every man every woman i could

00:39:43.080 actually how do you become a i could do that pretty i could do that pretty easily do it i could

00:39:46.880 do no but i asked you first and you don't have an answer because you don't have an impossible

00:39:51.240 no it's actually pragmatic because if you have a real it's not even pragmatic you have a if you

00:39:56.100 have a real plan for men you have to have a step-by-step like what's step one yeah so step

00:40:03.440 one would be looking at the mitigation for risk that would be step you have to get a girl on a

00:40:08.200 date first before you even get there no you don't have to get a girl on date to mitigate risk bro

00:40:12.820 okay well i guess there's no risk if you never get on the date yeah that's right so the thing

00:40:17.000 is if you're talking about so walk away so we're talking about where is he sourcing the women from

00:40:21.920 you're asking for stuff stop cutting me off i need you if you're asking a question you gotta

00:40:27.680 let me answer but you're not you're not answering the question what's the question but then you have

00:40:31.800 to not talk while i answer it okay i'll try i'm a woman so it's kind of tough okay go ahead

00:40:35.540 step-by-step process how does he get a girl on a date where should you get a girl on a date

00:40:42.000 he would go online you'd have conversations with women everywhere that you went the various things

00:40:46.500 that we've always done to get women on dates okay so you go on the dating apps and get women on dates

00:40:50.980 no i didn't say that what did i say you said that what i said you said go online i assumed

00:40:56.340 and apps and talk and talk to women totally fine yes are you ever going to get a woman are you

00:41:02.840 ever going to get a woman on date pearl if you don't talk to any of them okay so you talk to

00:41:07.620 women are you ever going to get a woman on a date if you don't talk to them okay so i want to keep

00:41:12.040 going through the process no i want to keep going through the process so you meet them on a dating

00:41:16.200 app okay or you meet them i didn't say meet them on a dating app okay i think can you tell me where

00:41:21.780 yeah i would all you have to do to begin the initial process of dating women is use whatever

00:41:29.360 connections resources you have to start connecting with various women you can use dating apps sure

00:41:34.420 that seems to be one of the most common ways that you do it but you can also use friends of friends

00:41:39.600 you can use your family members you can use all sorts of different ways to connect with women the

00:41:44.360 same way that men and women have been connecting forever except now you have also the online

00:41:48.700 component sure totally fine so then what's next do you take her on a date is that you can you can

00:41:54.120 take her on a date but usually the second step would be to be in the talking phase and inside

00:41:58.080 the talking phase you're able to actually identify many of these risk mitigating factors which become

00:42:04.020 immediately apparent in 90% of the conversations, they become very apparent, the red flags or the

00:42:11.160 risk mitigation. I wouldn't take a woman on a date. I would be in the talking phase with multiple

00:42:15.620 women for an elongated period of time before I ever took one out on a date. Okay, fine. So how

00:42:21.060 long should they talk before they get to the date? Well, it's going to vary from person to person.

00:42:26.520 Okay, but what would you suggest? I would suggest that you talk to them until you feel like you've

00:42:31.220 gathered enough information and intel on the mitigation of these red flags and then i would

00:42:35.500 take them sure you could take them on a day then okay and what information are you trying to get

00:42:39.720 from them well that's great glad that you asked that question for risk mitigation i'd be looking

00:42:45.140 for things like were you raised by a single mom right what are your goals what are the structure

00:42:49.700 in life that you're after whether or not it is the case you have a present father in your life

00:42:54.120 how many tattoos do you have that would be another good one your promiscuity level i do a little

00:42:58.380 intel maybe around their facebook things like this how many male friends they have there's tons and

00:43:02.580 tons okay the same things you know that women do yeah totally fine so now you get her on the date

00:43:07.560 are you trying to sleep with her are you are you waiting till you're you're suggesting they wait

00:43:12.580 till marriage is that what you're i well yeah only if they want the best outcomes yeah and they don't

00:43:17.040 want to create single moms that they have to take care of their children yeah so if she's if she's

00:43:21.160 not a virgin are you telling them they should still wait till marriage uh yeah i still would

00:43:26.820 yeah okay so if you're interested in a woman who's not a virgin right well my assumption is the man's

00:43:31.640 not going to be a virgin 95 percent right yeah and most of the men aren't going to be virgins

00:43:37.040 or taking those women out either okay that's the case yes factually that is the dating market so

00:43:41.580 you want men to pay a higher price for what other men got for free oh so okay well let's just grant

00:43:48.120 this let's say they don't right you want men to sleep with a woman on the first date can you

00:43:52.720 answer my question i'll answer yours okay so the answer is in the answer i'll explain it no so do

00:43:58.700 you want them to pay a high you don't like the answer you don't you don't have to sleep with

00:44:03.360 this woman to get to know her if you think that she's worth the risk and you if you think that

00:44:07.600 she's worth it to you know stick around to sleep with later or to you know date long term sure

00:44:13.780 the problem that you have here is that if we operate no no no my turn if you we operate off

00:44:19.660 of your logic right should they if a woman has ever slept with a man ever should no man ever wait

00:44:27.460 to sleep with that woman i think or should it be that's a tough sell what's that you can sell that

00:44:34.100 it's a tough sell so then you think that the woman if you've ever had sex as a woman you should just

00:44:40.060 give it up okay so you want guys to like answer the question i will answer that question no you're

00:44:48.540 answering the question i will answer that question if a woman's ever had sex every man should she

00:44:54.140 i will no i don't think no okay i don't think you're saying i don't think she should make

00:44:58.940 him wait i don't i i think there's certain men you can treat special though and i think most

00:45:03.580 men want to be treated special and not like other men so so is every man you've ever gone on a date

00:45:09.260 with have you slept with him immediately um no how about how about you how about you no i don't

00:45:16.220 sleep with any men no what was your dating experience like did you wait i mean if you

00:45:21.100 want to go first yeah of course i i like to get to know people things like this of course but the

00:45:26.140 thing is like that's my point i don't my point is i don't want to go personal but if you're good you

00:45:30.140 know what i mean no i'm not trying to be personal i'm trying to demonstrate a point of course you

00:45:33.500 don't sleep with every man immediately that would be absurd right that's not a personal attack

00:45:38.300 women do sleep with men faster that they like generally speaking i think the same thing with

00:45:44.860 men they generally how would a guy know the difference between a girl that's using him for

00:45:51.080 resources um or like just trying to use him for what for the lifelong provisioning or that

00:45:59.100 actually likes him well every woman is going to be utilizing men to some degree for resources

00:46:04.100 and historically always has the idea though that you can't mitigate these risks by taking a look

00:46:09.740 at the entirety of their social media doing a little social stalking which is you're just

00:46:14.320 looking around at their connections and things like this in order to see what the general trend

00:46:18.800 is you can you can basically determine this fairly quickly in fact men have become so savvy to this

00:46:24.380 in the dating market they're beginning the high rates of rejection now where they're like nope

00:46:28.560 so there's no there's no women there's no women that at all could mitigate any of this i mean the

00:46:35.440 biggest hoes that i knew in school had pretty much no digital footprint no social media none

00:46:41.740 well i mean that's because they because they know because they it's like a strategy actually

00:46:47.320 because they want to get like um they want to get around and it's really difficult now well then

00:46:52.820 even if that was the case i would just put that as another red flag oh you have no social media

00:46:57.660 presence that maybe that's another red flag wouldn't you say that women are developing new

00:47:02.600 strategies every like year to get around some totally but don't you think that some of the men

00:47:08.860 that you're suggesting this to are going to get got just balance of probability yeah but no matter

00:47:13.780 what conditionals we make in society some men are going to get got there's nothing you can do about

00:47:17.820 that ever doesn't matter if you had the perfect utopia some men are going to get got okay so what

00:47:22.760 percent going through all these strategies what percent of men do you think will get got

00:47:26.380 i think that you can lower the risk i think you can lower the risk mitigation down to somewhere

00:47:31.740 around 15 to 20 percent which is what we see in these types of elongated christian marriages so

00:47:36.480 you think about 20 percent of men will get got i think that 20 percent of men have always gotten

00:47:42.000 got why would a man take that deal uh because they want to have a family like they've always

00:47:49.040 wanted to right but and do you think that if people stay married that's automatically a

00:47:55.040 successful marriage if they just don't divorce no that wouldn't always meet the criteria for

00:48:01.440 successful marriage so right but but hang on by the same logic you would have to agree then that

00:48:07.040 not every time women want to get divorced it's unjustified true i agree so if that's if that's

00:48:11.840 the case then you have an equal wash there so the idea here is what do we want for a stabilized

00:48:18.000 society which makes sense right for men to have maximum happiness it seems to be marriage right

00:48:23.760 but you're you're switching it back to what's in it for society and i i keep trying to stick to

00:48:28.320 what's in it for the men are society right and run society do you really think that a 20 failure rate

00:48:35.760 where um a woman could potentially really ruin his life for 18 years like i mean i've i've talked to

00:48:42.560 like um a good person what what failure rate's acceptable one percent uh i think one is too

00:48:48.640 many when you have a quarter of when you have a quarter of when you have a quarter of men raising

00:48:52.720 kids that aren't theirs i think i think i think one time that happens is too many that's utopian

00:48:58.440 that's literally utopian thinking so if there's ever a case that a man can get got then you would

00:49:03.680 just recommend it's so silly that's utopianism that's impossible it's like saying no man should

00:49:09.340 ever drive cars because they might get in a wreck it's like it's gonna happen i wouldn't say that's

00:49:13.760 the same because i would say a car wreck um it is not likely that you're going to be enslaved to

00:49:21.460 that car for 18 years. And I think maybe I just have a different point of view because I've seen

00:49:28.720 men on the brink of suicide, Andrew. And I've seen men like one of the worst, I've told you this

00:49:34.680 story before. One of the worst marriage divorce stories I ever saw was a guy that took pretty

00:49:39.740 much your advice. Okay. Which was what? What's my advice? What you say? He waited till marriage.

00:49:46.540 she met a girl in a latin catholic mass church yeah um he had the temperament um he thought she

00:49:52.520 was the right person um and she it was actually really difficult she took his kid she was actually

00:50:00.100 eastern european so she was um eastern so she was actually raised to be a wife and she came to the

00:50:05.000 u.s he met her in california um and she stole the kid and took him back she won custody she took him

00:50:12.160 back um and he spent three hundred thousand dollars trying to get her back he went into a

00:50:16.360 war zone trying to get his kid yeah um he now the kid is like six he hasn't seen him in years

00:50:22.700 the kid doesn't recognize him and he speaks russian how is is he happy you'll yeah but

00:50:29.160 i know and it's easy i think it's easy maybe for you to like wave it away and just say well i'm

00:50:33.840 not waving it away like that's horrible it's absolutely horrible men it doesn't matter like

00:50:38.920 don't even think about that risk but what i've seen think about that risk right but but you're

00:50:44.120 saying but do it anyway and i'm i'm saying i can't tell you what to do because that is an

00:50:49.280 astronomical risk that i understand is if you as a man don't want to take that i like i completely

00:50:56.720 understand another so here's the alternative another can you let me finish so another issue

00:51:00.880 too is like do you ever finish waiting till marriage i mean you go on monologues too a lot

00:51:05.640 too. Not long because you cut in every five seconds. The other thing is one out of three

00:51:10.920 women have STDs. So you could... Does the sex work? No, not necessarily. Yeah, we can look at the

00:51:19.080 height of the promiscuity. The sexual revolution wasn't even close. Wasn't even close. Yeah,

00:51:23.880 but a lot of normal women have STDs too. They do. Yeah, and they always have. Yeah, true.

00:51:30.260 They usually get it from men during promiscuous sex as well. Right, but that's back to the what

00:51:35.400 about the men though we're talking about it's not what about the men i'm just giving an accounting

00:51:38.900 for this for how this works std so stds would be a good idea for not having promiscuous promiscuous

00:51:45.620 sex but if the idea is like because some men are going to have catastrophic results and we can

00:51:51.180 never mitigate that i don't care what society you're in ever you're not going to be able to

00:51:55.420 mitigate that some men are going to have catastrophic results that instead they should

00:51:59.040 use women basically and women them for purely sexual hedonistic needs if that's the case

00:52:05.120 then the very ideology of like look at all these stds that explodes under that same ideology that

00:52:11.320 that's like silly it's counterproductive well under your strategy they could marry a woman

00:52:16.180 with herpes yeah your strategy they're going to get herpes anyway not really because if you wear

00:52:21.420 a condom it's less than one percent of men then why are they exploding um they're getting they're

00:52:27.520 exploding because men are men and women aren't wearing condoms um but if you wear a condom it's

00:52:32.200 not the great the likelihood of you getting something especially as a guy is pretty low

00:52:36.720 so men are just stupid don't know how to wear condoms or uh i mean some men they really yeah

00:52:42.820 they really should yeah no i don't think so i think that to be honest yeah i mean a lot of guys

00:52:47.820 they don't what happened what's happened is promiscuity especially in the sex in the sex

00:52:51.880 industry where stds are 10 times higher has now been gravitating towards women's bedrooms

00:52:57.160 on only fans and things like this they have a continuous chain of men who come in their

00:53:01.680 promiscuous with and this has exploded the std rate and by the way i can prove this because in

00:53:06.860 every western nation where sex work can be done from the home you see these explosive rates

00:53:12.300 generally in the areas where there's a what the most amount of sex workers it gravitates out

00:53:15.960 you think it's all sex work it's not the women in college no there's always been stds of course

00:53:21.300 that have been in the general public i'm talking about the accounting for the explosion in them

00:53:25.320 Right. But you don't think it's common on, say, college campuses for STDs to go around.

00:53:31.840 Of course, but that's always been the case on college campuses.

00:53:34.420 Right. Right. But saying that's always I'm trying to operate in today, not the past. Right.

00:53:39.320 Yeah. But I'm trying to give you a prism so that because you're acting like this stuff is new or that the mitigate or that risk mitigation is somehow new.

00:53:47.580 This has always been the case that men had to mitigate risk when it came to marriage.

00:53:52.240 you're only talking about the selection of well you could get really fucked by the courts which

00:53:57.260 is true and that the courts are biased towards women which is true i'm giving prescriptors for

00:54:01.960 how we begin the process of changing those things whereas what you do is you act as though

00:54:07.060 these are brand new societal issues when they're actually not brand new societal issues i operate

00:54:12.940 in today so i try to focus on what's going on now yeah but can't you look to the past for

00:54:18.080 prescriptors but why not if the past not if it doesn't matter it matters okay well we can't get

00:54:26.100 prescriptors we can't we can't get prescriptors of the future unless we look at societies which

00:54:29.680 worked right but societies that don't exist today that are different than today i have to operate

00:54:35.260 and i have to operate i'm not a lawmaker so i have to operate in the society we have today

00:54:42.080 yeah you're not a lawmaker you're an influencer so you'd influence people into lawmaking or

00:54:46.200 influence people towards laws or you influence them towards uh better behaviors or things like

00:54:50.480 influencers that think they have that kind of sway and power are just as delusional as the women that

00:54:56.900 think that they're going to get a man that makes like five million dollars a year that's my belief

00:55:02.480 yeah so you may think you may think different that's just what i think go ahead yeah yeah so

00:55:07.720 well i mean the democratic party and the republican party seem to disagree as they're

00:55:11.320 buying up influencers left and right all over the country and it seems to be swaying a lot of

00:55:15.560 localized election so i think influencers must have some kind of i don't know influence right

00:55:20.520 otherwise why is it that the political arms of the various parties are doing everything they can to

00:55:25.440 get them under their wig so ultimately i think i think when we're talking about your kind of

00:55:31.100 descriptive world again i don't even disagree with a lot of these descriptions but if we apply

00:55:37.120 pearl davis's descriptions which do sound more prescriptive why should men do x right well it's

00:55:44.040 like okay well here's why and then you say but here's the risk for that okay i agree there's a

00:55:48.780 risk for that well now what i don't know is that it just like i don't know if a product is good

00:55:54.260 then people are lining up to buy it and so what you're doing is you're saying no no there's no

00:56:00.120 risk men men are lining up to buy this but the stats just don't say that they don't so if you're

00:56:08.500 right well well first of all i reject i reject your scripts if you're right then the marriage

00:56:13.480 rate will go up and traditionalism will return i hope you're right yeah but don't don't you like

00:56:20.260 don't you understand that the positives of your framing is completely rejected by me i'm not one

00:56:27.520 of these guys who's making these crazy advocations for hey bro just take the plunge bro and hopefully

00:56:33.420 things will work out bro that's the um the con inc guys who are saying oh this is all men's fault

00:56:39.740 this and that i'm talking about prescriptive mitigations to try to fix the issues in marriage

00:56:45.340 the very thing men are screaming that they want more than anything and you just say well kind of

00:56:51.500 just do what you want here's the information good luck it's like okay you can do that but then and

00:56:56.300 what what account can you ever criticize any of those guys in the con inc party who give

00:57:02.860 prescriptions how can you ever do that if you don't give a counter-prescription well if their

00:57:06.300 prescriptions are leading men to their death and men are nine times more likely to commit suicide

00:57:11.500 because they don't warn them i can criticize them then what should they do instead what should they

00:57:17.260 do instead i i think they should make an informed decision because i just think i think i think they

00:57:23.020 should make an informed decision why is a man immoral if he doesn't choose to get married

00:57:29.980 That's not immoral.

00:57:31.100 Okay, so then why are you arguing with me?

00:57:33.160 Yeah, well, the argument here is about men's happiness and what they get, right?

00:57:37.500 Not about whether or not it's moral if they get married or not.

00:57:40.040 I'm not saying it's immoral for men to not get married.

00:57:41.760 I could be, okay, then what's the disagreement?

00:57:44.060 The disagreement is on the prescription of why it is that marriage,

00:57:48.560 that marriage, well, here's the disagreement.

00:57:50.400 I'm trying to explain it to you.

00:57:51.920 I'm not saying that it's immoral for men to not get married.

00:57:54.500 I am interested in the happiness and longevity of men

00:57:58.760 and their overall wellness well-being and health in the society i have to live in because i count

00:58:04.720 on them to provide the security i count on them to provide all luxury i count on them to build

00:58:10.680 all infrastructure and so if men aren't doing well none of us are doing well and so if we're going to

00:58:17.320 uh associate these problems and con inc says we'll just take the plunge because society continues to

00:58:22.600 go and pearl davis says men can just do whatever the fuck they want then it's like well then how

00:58:27.460 do you criticize anything uh prescriptively how do we get anywhere prescriptively it makes no

00:58:32.420 sense do you think men should do what you want i think that if prescriptively you move towards the

00:58:39.120 type of society i advocate for i think yes the wellness of men would do way better so men should

00:58:43.000 do what you want and not what they want no they should do prescriptively what's best for men

00:58:47.500 okay that's not now that is true that i'm aligned with that okay but that's not doing what i want

00:58:52.940 that's doing what's in their best interest okay so men should listen to you and not well not them

00:58:59.200 not what they want for their life but what you want for their life well what did i just say i

00:59:03.720 just said that according to what they want for their life is happiness and if i want for my life

00:59:08.400 happiness also and if we're we have a combined belief on the prescriptive things that would

00:59:12.780 make us happy then that's what men including me should move towards you're saying i read these

00:59:17.060 stats i read these studies um now do what i say because i read these studies go on pearl davis is

00:59:23.380 doing the same thing i read these stats and studies and everything's really bad for men so

00:59:26.960 i mean if you want to if you know if you want to take the plunge 20 you might get fucked here and

00:59:31.700 is it really worth it i'm not sure it's worth it i say you're you're a man it's your house you get

00:59:36.720 to do what you want in your house that's out of order i'm not going to tell a man how what to do

00:59:41.420 well you're not telling them what to do but you can still you isn't it true that you can offer up

00:59:47.380 prescriptions in society which are good for society good for men without telling men that

00:59:51.860 they need to ought to do those prescriptions like hey prescriptively if we did x that might

00:59:56.560 be really good for men that doesn't mean you're telling men what to do

00:59:59.300 i can give my opinion if somebody asks but that's not my job i'm i'm here did you lower the volume

01:00:09.880 a little bit i don't know why i like can hear him less now no no could you talk again uh testing

01:00:16.620 testing testing could you turn up my mic or like my headphones just like a little bit sorry um

01:00:23.000 you but then you would say you wouldn't say you should do it you would say you could

01:00:28.380 but once you get into should no i would say i would say any prescription

01:00:34.860 which is going to be good for the overall health of men they should be moving towards that yes

01:00:40.980 right and so if it was moving towards the overall health of men it would be an easy sell and men

01:00:47.860 would do it and that well no not necessarily men have gone along with lots of different things

01:00:53.980 which were an easy sell because they were misled or they had bad information or collectively from

01:01:00.080 the society like here's an easy one men go off to war they go off to literal war when they get

01:01:05.360 drafted and that has been an easy sell but it definitely was not good for men what is this i

01:01:12.080 think it might be here sorry it's like buzzing now a little bit okay sorry so you're saying that men

01:01:21.880 well yeah but men in reward for protecting the country they got a family that actually stayed

01:01:26.360 together but today that's not the norm no they didn't in the vietnam war they didn't get that

01:01:31.000 that's not the case they got that maybe post-world war ii they weren't getting it after korea they

01:01:35.140 weren't getting it after vietnam they're drafted for both wars they weren't coming home to a family

01:01:38.880 they're coming home getting spit on literally spit on and the thing is is like yes men can be

01:01:43.960 tricked collectively into doing things that are really bad for men's health but the idea here

01:01:48.420 that we should not be prescriptively trying because it was like an adventure that's probably

01:01:52.700 why right like no they didn't just want to go on an adventure they did it for honor yeah i mean and

01:01:58.800 i would but i would say at one point society rewarded them for it like now white men are the

01:02:03.700 least likely to be in the military or it's like the lowest numbers in years like men are dropping

01:02:09.000 out of the military because they don't see what's in it for them anymore and you know it's it's

01:02:14.320 interesting i think this like yeah well that's because there's no honor i think i think it's

01:02:18.080 an interesting like sell um what you're trying to do meet the women wait for not wait till marriage

01:02:24.140 for a woman that's not pay a higher price than a previous guy and you'll be married for a life

01:02:29.320 i i hope men if you i mean that's not so this is again this is very you guys want to if you guys

01:02:35.860 if you guys want to do that pearl framing if you want to do that's not actually what i said

01:02:40.000 i'm not i'm offering an only an alternative to black pill and what am i saying okay the same

01:02:45.800 thing you are men should be gravitating towards things which are good and healthy for men men are

01:02:51.240 gravitating towards families because they want them but if they didn't want them they wouldn't

01:02:54.560 be having them who has more information on what makes a man happy you or him like an individual

01:03:01.440 man watching this will be trivially true about any human being on earth so each man has more

01:03:08.100 information to make decisions in his life than you do right well no that's not always the case

01:03:13.700 but I would say generally speaking, people tend to think or know what makes them happier than

01:03:18.760 some guy they don't know. Sure. Yeah. So my, I don't know if I want to, can I use you as an

01:03:25.380 example, but not say your name? Can I use you? Yeah, I can. Okay. So my producer's watching now,

01:03:31.000 right? He's listened to me talk. Now he's listening to you for the first time and he's

01:03:35.420 hearing your strategies for marriage, right? Who has more information on how he should make a

01:03:41.520 decision moving forward in his relationships you or him yeah so obviously him but i'll also have

01:03:47.520 more information probably on what's better for his relationships than you because i'm a man totally

01:03:52.100 totally fine totally fine yeah but so who should make the decision should he listen to your advice

01:03:57.260 or should he listen to himself what he thinks is best well so i would say that you also have to

01:04:04.460 take into account that there's social responsibilities and honor that men have duties that they're

01:04:09.900 supposed to gravitate towards there are actual duties men have to gravitate towards like this

01:04:15.080 is the duty okay well what does he get you don't think men don't have duties what does he i mean

01:04:20.820 why why would you do something like men should just do nothing or what well why why should they

01:04:26.760 why should they work hard for a society that doesn't reward them i i have no problem i think

01:04:31.680 that society should reward right but it doesn't yeah but it does it does actually reward men for

01:04:38.380 hard work it doesn't always reward men for hard work with a family though that's not the reward

01:04:43.600 societies have ever given men men have to procure their own stake for families military members the

01:04:49.260 last 50 years yeah yes sure society has rewarded military members over the last 50 years yes

01:04:56.660 there's more during the iraq war for instance there was a lot of honor that came back to the

01:05:00.960 uniform and then post that now there's less more men have committed suicide um than all of the last

01:05:06.920 but sorry more soldiers have committed suicide in the last 50 years than all of the world wars

01:05:11.800 combined yeah so society rewarded them no that's not as that's not a social societal issue of

01:05:19.340 society trying to punish them iraqi war veterans we're not getting spit on like vietnam war

01:05:24.400 veterans some of them maybe but it wasn't the same type of contextual i guess if society isn't here's

01:05:29.160 why this happened this happened because of the tour so it used to be that soldiers were cycled

01:05:35.060 out after one tour what happened during the iraq war and afghanistan wars they were going back for

01:05:40.020 four five six tours they they were completely broken this was something the military has

01:05:45.220 recognized multiple times society itself though demanded that these wars be stopped ultimately

01:05:51.300 they demanded it that's why they put trump in when you're talking about the social duties and

01:05:55.260 responsibilities of men it is a fact of the matter they do have them the idea here though do you

01:06:00.440 think that men that this means that society rewards men with a monologue is it gonna end

01:06:04.580 is it gonna end okay i just you're doing that to me so i gotta you know yeah yeah fair enough

01:06:08.720 so do you think that men have been respected the last 50 years and honored in society no that's

01:06:16.980 not i didn't say that we're talking about the military a specific example okay but in general

01:06:21.920 have do men get no i think that men have been completely and totally disrespected as a bygone

01:06:27.300 pieces of garbage the entire idea here is to try to change that right but you would you would

01:06:34.020 you would understand the rationale for a guy that just says fuck it right because society doesn't

01:06:39.180 reward him i under so here we can maybe come to some agreement do i understand the rationale yes

01:06:45.800 oh yes i understand the rationale completely does that mean that that's good for men though no

01:06:50.640 no no okay and clearly it can't be because you say it can't be by your own logic but you know

01:06:57.720 what's best for an individual no no you just you actually just gave the prescription it's pretty

01:07:02.260 great you just said well so society is shitting all over men and that's really bad for men right

01:07:07.420 andrew yeah i want to change that and you go but wait a second so you think you know what's best

01:07:12.420 for men it's like well if we both agree that society shitting on men is bad then it appears

01:07:16.760 we both think we know what's best for men that society shouldn't shit on them they wouldn't like

01:07:21.320 that right right but i don't predict it'll stop i wouldn't predict that it would change well i can

01:07:26.440 predict it'll never stop if we don't try to do anything about it i can make a 100 prediction

01:07:31.080 it'll never stop if we don't try to do anything about it and run for office right go ahead well

01:07:35.540 you don't just need to run for office what you need to do is influence people who are in office

01:07:40.220 that's the main thing people forget see ngos and it's the lobbyists who ultimately are going to be

01:07:45.900 able to make these influences for change all right in the next year what changes can i expect policy

01:07:50.740 wise probably not much okay so my producer my producer has to make a decision in the next year

01:07:57.840 what's he gonna do yeah yeah so he has to make should he look at the history should he look at

01:08:02.140 what might happen in the future yeah so if your producer's gonna make a decision on marriage in

01:08:05.800 the next year i'd give him the same advice any rational human being would ever have great you

01:08:10.780 want to get married make sure all of your risks are as mitigated as you can possibly make them

01:08:15.440 so that you can move towards family like men have always historically done and are now getting much

01:08:19.920 better at. And then on top of that, Mr. Producer, you can expect within the next few years that

01:08:25.620 you're going to start seeing even more changes in the marriage court. And here's my proof.

01:08:29.180 The number of kids living with their fathers has quadrupled from 68 to 2020 due to men's rights

01:08:35.280 advocacy groups. That seems to be good for men. They can get access to their kids. Quadrupled,

01:08:40.520 pearl what do you think's gonna affect my producer someone similar to him more do you think

01:08:46.200 you saying like these stats or do you think what he's seen in real life is gonna affect his

01:08:52.460 decision making and what he thinks more people generally i think intuitively go off of experience

01:08:59.280 first and then they mitigate but but they often mitigate experience when they start looking for

01:09:03.940 answers for why things they've experienced have sucked right so like bad thing happens and i hate

01:09:10.640 it and so intuitively i don't want anything to do with this again but then you start looking for

01:09:14.480 answers for why bad thing happened you listing stats and shaming men is not going to make your

01:09:21.780 shaming not is not i'm not is um that's a shaming tactic i'm telling you and is not going to make

01:09:27.740 men want to get married and it's not going to make them not believe what they have seen

01:09:32.440 how is it shaming men to tell men i care a lot about men's health more than anything else and

01:09:38.940 would really like to see influencers start moving towards prescriptions so that they live happier

01:09:43.920 lives how in the fucking world could you ever say in a million years that that's a shaming tactic

01:09:48.960 okay sure you're not sure i mean how like how do you make that step now i would say on the other

01:09:55.320 hand you're shaming men you shame men for sleeping around it's impossible guys you're way too

01:10:00.540 fucking stupid to understand the system you shame men for not living the way that you want them to

01:10:04.800 live no i'm not saying you call them you do i'm not telling men they have to live how i want to

01:10:09.360 live you call them degenerates you call them degenerates yeah if they're gays they're degenerate

01:10:13.800 aren't they for all okay well no you call them degenerates if they sleep around yeah if they're

01:10:18.860 highly promiscuous i consider that to be degeneracy but i still even for those degenerate men

01:10:23.600 want the best for health and resources for those men so what about men that just want to live with

01:10:29.580 a woman for 10 years and have sex first are they terrible idea horrible idea by every by every

01:10:35.640 single metric yeah totally totally degenerate and it's a terrible idea but a better idea is to wait

01:10:42.440 till marriage and give a woman the ultimate honor that you could ever give a woman

01:10:47.840 um and in the comparison of those two situations and she doesn't even have to have sex with you

01:10:54.660 to get it they don't have to have sex with you if you live with them either what's your point

01:10:57.920 well like they don't have to have sex in that situation either and when you're looking at the

01:11:01.340 fact that living with a woman long term without marrying her you end up anyway with these ideas

01:11:07.120 of like common law marriage you can still get taken the ringer on that the other alternative

01:11:11.400 there is that the the children are generally going to have terrible outcomes between those

01:11:15.440 two choices absolutely i would prescribe that marriage is better than those even bad marriage

01:11:20.160 would be better than those okay yeah so um again that's a tough sell i hope i mean maybe the men

01:11:26.460 in the audience will buy it right no i think i think that mine was the good sell so i think the

01:11:31.540 shaming tactic comes from the idea of you saying but you're because this is how i hear it what i

01:11:36.180 hear is men are so fucking stupid they can't mitigate their own risk so just check out guys

01:11:40.260 you're too fucking dumb and i think the opposite i think men are super fucking smart and we can

01:11:44.520 definitely do something inside of the societal social field to change the conditionals for men

01:11:49.320 who has more legal power men or women uh in which context at the mercy of the system or at the

01:11:57.980 of changing the system all right who do politicians cater to men or women um they generally cater

01:12:05.900 toward women and children's needs first yes who does the legal system cater to men or women

01:12:11.220 generally speaking it's going to cater to the weaker sex and children yes who does the media

01:12:16.820 cater to yeah same i can just answer yes to all the institutions doing this okay so how

01:12:21.820 so if an individual man is going to outsmart this billion dollar system

01:12:27.680 so they're too dumb to do it um i would say they don't have power i wouldn't say dumb but i don't

01:12:34.900 think but don't men collectively have powers to overthrow entire systems via force okay but i mean

01:12:39.640 when you're talking in the abstract that's like easy no i'm talking in the inch i want to go i

01:12:44.260 I want to go specific. So my producer, he's listening, right? So he's going to make a

01:12:48.520 decision in the next five years about what he wants to do with his life, right? And so he's

01:12:53.580 listening. Now, what power does he have if a woman throws an abuse claim at him? What can he really

01:12:59.720 do? Yeah. So he can do the same thing that men have always done during any sort of claim for

01:13:06.900 abuse. He can mitigate risk. You can do this via security cameras. You can do this via the Pence

01:13:12.980 rule you can do this via all sorts of various rules that men have instituted to protect themselves

01:13:17.180 from false allegations of abuse talking about inside of long-term relationships that's really

01:13:22.260 hard for women to prove really hard for women to prove even marital rape is hard for women to prove

01:13:26.860 those are not the things which men are getting tossed into jail for they're getting tossed into

01:13:30.920 jail getting their lives ruined for false allegations generally from strangers not for

01:13:34.900 women they're with long term uh that's just simply not true because these allegations are brought up

01:13:40.360 all the time in family court because it's based on a preponderous it's it's not you don't need

01:13:45.600 evidence so they can just say things i mean i worked on one case where she threw a rape

01:13:50.420 allegation um from the first night they met and then 10 years later she said that he raped her

01:13:56.000 court is the case that won custody listen so it is the case inside a family court that women will

01:14:02.700 make up all sorts of shit uh for the for the custody of children nobody's disputing that

01:14:07.840 what i'm talking about specifically is the charges of abuse which generally happens so

01:14:12.920 in family court what happens is most women are filing for divorce not under an abuse claim but

01:14:18.920 under irreconcilable differences and the amount of them who are reporting abuse in the relationships

01:14:23.420 actually is not nearly as high as you're presenting the amount of men who are high

01:14:27.480 status who get their lives completely fucking destroyed by false allegations from strange women

01:14:32.440 is extremely high though usually in the workplace if they're in any way connected in the workplace

01:14:38.380 or if it is the case that they're a high status man who goes on a date with a woman that's when

01:14:43.820 you start to see those accusations completely level men i'm not saying that doesn't happen

01:14:48.400 it does happen it does happen in family court correct yeah so women women women can throw a

01:14:55.460 and what can he do if he gets a very feminist judge yeah he's gonna get fucked yeah i agree

01:15:01.100 okay so do you think he makes him stupid if he gets fucked like he's no i think i think the

01:15:07.120 yeah so but what's the prescription what's the prescription would be to begin the process of

01:15:12.800 changing family cords so that you don't have the feminist judges that still operate under the uh

01:15:19.260 under the old rules of immediately goes to tick tick tick my producer he's got to make a decision

01:15:24.440 this year he's got what's he going to do this he's going to do now it's should he should he bet that

01:15:29.560 andrew wilson's gonna fix the laws for him should he stay alone for the rest of his life

01:15:34.180 because if he ever gets married the woman's for sure gonna give him an abuse claim and throw him

01:15:37.900 in prison i didn't say that there's a lot of there's i didn't say that i mean that sounds

01:15:43.500 like a terrible prescription yeah if you listen to me i didn't say that but yeah so the way so

01:15:48.500 let's compare it let's see the thing is the thing is you're listen you're mitigate all risk possible

01:15:52.640 okay so and then pearl davis good luck you're fucked i mean that's the distinction but you

01:15:57.300 See, what you're doing is you're making it seem like men have two options, which is sleep

01:16:01.480 around or be married, right?

01:16:03.380 That's kind of the, I don't know if that's what you mean, but that's what you're making

01:16:06.760 it seem like.

01:16:08.000 No.

01:16:08.100 But there's a lot of people that are in like two-year relationships with a woman.

01:16:11.820 There's a lot of people that date casually, right?

01:16:14.880 They just go on dates.

01:16:15.960 They might sleep with one or two, maybe more than that, women.

01:16:19.300 Well, that sounds like casual sex to me.

01:16:21.600 Right.

01:16:22.200 But then they pick their favorite and they get into a relationship and then eventually

01:16:26.100 get married.

01:16:26.700 i mean i'm sure and i'm not trying to go personal but i'm sure you know most people dated before

01:16:32.840 like they met their previous like partners their wife right so yeah um and so it's not really one

01:16:39.980 or the other right it's not like degenerates and not so when does someone become a degenerate

01:16:46.140 like when does that line like when are they beyond the point of return yeah so so when you

01:16:51.800 When you hit this idea of like, is it like, yeah, when you hit a fallacious threshold fallacy, like, when does a thing become the thing? Right? We know that there's degenerates. Can I give you the exact number of dicks a guy has to suck before he's good? Well, that would be just one, I guess. Do I have to give you the exact number of chicks a dude fucks before he's considered societally a degenerate? I don't think I need to. I think that's pretty intuitive. We know what degeneracy looks like. You don't think so?

01:17:20.180 I mean, I don't want to say

01:17:22.500 Okay, so here, I'll just pose it to you if you don't think so

01:17:25.020 I mean, there's a lot of guys

01:17:25.840 A guy is in a gangbang

01:17:27.260 He's in a gangbang, right?

01:17:29.720 With, it's him and three of his friends

01:17:31.680 And they're all fucking one chick

01:17:32.920 Is he a degenerate?

01:17:35.700 I mean, what is he

01:17:36.600 Is he doing those every week, the rest of his life?

01:17:38.800 No, he's just

01:17:39.580 He just decided to go in and do it, right?

01:17:42.120 I personally

01:17:42.860 I don't tell men what to do in the bedroom

01:17:45.180 I think

01:17:46.140 I prefer the don't ask, don't tell

01:17:48.320 like i just don't you can do what you want yeah well i mean i prefer not to have stds floating

01:17:54.480 out of society because people are getting in gang bangs and they're maybe saved their home

01:17:58.220 and the libertarian idea of like we're not going to govern it but that doesn't affect you

01:18:02.420 how does that affect me how does that affect i live in this society how does that affect me

01:18:07.080 you don't have an std right i have children i have cousins i have i have family i have all

01:18:12.920 And that's actually what I was trying to get at is conservatives want men to save society for their children.

01:18:19.940 And that's the point.

01:18:20.560 You don't ask what's in it for them.

01:18:22.060 Wait, wait, wait a second.

01:18:23.200 I'm sorry.

01:18:23.540 And that's the point.

01:18:24.280 Don't you want us to save society for men?

01:18:27.920 I think people need to make decisions based on the information they have about their own life.

01:18:34.020 Yeah.

01:18:34.300 I am not.

01:18:35.160 I am not.

01:18:35.780 I'm going to finish and then you can go.

01:18:36.820 go ahead i am realistic and i think it's better to be prepared than be blindly optimistic so

01:18:44.160 things i would personally prepare for your kids are probably gonna like um your kids will probably

01:18:52.280 go to school with women that do only fans that is probably going to happen yep and it's better

01:18:57.180 to prepare and have a plan than it is to try to stop it um i don't think it's effective to stop

01:19:04.500 it oh i don't think it's well i think it is effective to decide not only that again the

01:19:09.100 framing is incorrect it's not that conservatives are trying to sorry conservatives are not trying

01:19:15.560 to save uh i mean maybe the tp usa conservative is trying to save a society for the sake of their

01:19:22.520 children but even if that was a case like good that's good but that aside um no what i'm trying

01:19:28.920 to do is save men in society men i think men the patriarchy is the most necessary component to

01:19:36.680 society's functioning and so if you want to have men who are in a patriarchal role who are governing

01:19:43.040 society then you're going to have to prescriptively move men towards that that's the only way to do

01:19:48.340 it can a man ultimately it's like hang on hang on hang on my turn now so ultimately from your like

01:19:54.040 social bastardization of this whole thing your framing continuously goes back to well conservative

01:19:59.460 men want to save society for their children yeah and like right but what does the average man get

01:20:07.140 out of that and that's the point they get a society to live in right so i just want to know

01:20:13.060 when these changes are going to happen do you think men live in like bubbles in a forest or

01:20:17.320 do you think that they live in in societies which are governed by social relationships

01:20:21.020 okay so when are these changes going to happen like when yeah but answer my question first do

01:20:26.600 you think that men live in isolated bubbles or they live in a social dynamic society filled with

01:20:31.500 interpersonal relationships well the average man doesn't have many friends he's like three or less

01:20:36.240 i think yeah but they have friends and they have family members and they still have to engage in

01:20:39.820 society you have to go buy a fucking cheeseburger right they got to go buy a cheeseburger and not

01:20:43.480 get pickles on it right but every every stat shows that men are actually checking out a society

01:20:48.380 so yeah that's bad though right that's not good like we want to change that right but i i would

01:20:55.200 say it's pragmatic because they're realizing there's no it's bad uh okay well i i hope isn't

01:21:02.700 a strategy and what i i think you're kind of trying to do is sell hope and i think it's better

01:21:07.240 argument that you're making right now it's like guess what no men would ever be in pain ever again

01:21:12.360 if they all shot themselves in the head either would they pearl i don't really think that's the

01:21:18.220 same but hey you know that no no that's just pragmatism taken so it's logical conclusion

01:21:23.320 if you want to stop all suffering of men they all go they all go bye-bye they all they're all dead

01:21:27.640 now there's no more suffering of men that's just silly i said men look at the facts and make a

01:21:31.720 decision and you can make a decision for yourself i'm here to report the facts and that's the same

01:21:36.740 as shoot yourself okay i mean no that's not no no you're making totally fine i mean hey you're

01:21:42.300 all you all you wait for the born again virgin guys that's totally that's totally gonna get you

01:21:46.960 that's the best way for that's what you said just lying now it's just reframing that is what

01:21:51.680 reframing and total bullshit never said guys wait for the born again virgin in fact i'm the one

01:21:56.940 wrecking those fucking bras what are you talking about okay the thing i've never made any such

01:22:01.200 prescription it's always reframing edit it here because the thing is can i edit it where i asked

01:22:06.040 you or i'm gonna edit it earlier because you did say that you the way you would suggest men dated

01:22:11.960 was to wait till marriage even if the woman wasn't a virgin you did say that yeah that's

01:22:17.160 not has nothing to do with born again virgins it's just that's your pragmatism of a social

01:22:21.900 mitigation for bad thing happening that's it it's all a matter of mitigation of risk the idea that

01:22:27.780 i said that you need to wait for a born again virgin fucking absurd never said it the reason

01:22:31.820 you have to reframe this is because how should i i'm advocating what should i call them okay

01:22:35.840 I'm advocating for men's happiness, men's rights, men's health.

01:22:43.780 And the only thing you can think of to do is to consistently attempt to reframe it

01:22:48.400 into somehow I'm telling men to take some plunge with some fucking skankboard again virgin.

01:22:53.880 Fuck that.

01:22:54.720 I'm talking about the mass mitigation of risk and the change to a system.

01:22:58.200 All right, guys.

01:22:58.600 I know she slept with your ex-boyfriend.

01:23:00.960 I know she slept with her ex-boyfriend.

01:23:03.320 Here comes the straw man that I would never prescribe ever.

01:23:05.560 okay okay should men wait till marriage you said yes right yeah yeah generally yes even if the

01:23:12.220 woman even if the woman isn't a virgin if they if it is the case you want men to do whatever they

01:23:18.320 want okay that if man really likes the woman don't do whatever you want do it do it andrew do

01:23:24.480 what andrew says do it no no if it is my producer he's taking notes now he's gonna follow your plan

01:23:30.920 Yeah, yeah. So if the man really likes the woman and men should do whatever it is that they want, right, then under your feasible system, a man should just fuck a chick because he feels like it, right? It's like that's untenable, one. And two, yes, is it okay for a man to hold his own integrity intact and still be in love with a woman who slept with a man before and have good outcomes? Yes, of course it is.

01:23:56.220 so now you're shaming men for wanting to sleep with women outside of me and that's what i said

01:24:00.500 you're the one shaming men because you're the one saying that they're degenerates if they

01:24:04.340 even though even though statistically outcomes even though outcomes for men who maintain virginity

01:24:10.080 and marry women with low body counts or virgins have really good outcomes i am super you know

01:24:16.000 what you'd have to show me the study i am super i am super sure that when the woman is not a virgin

01:24:23.360 and the man is that is a recipe for disaster i am it it listen you're right that the risk i know

01:24:29.580 i know i'm right but it's still but it's still mitigated it's still hang on but it's still

01:24:33.980 mitigated right by the fact that if they have a lower body count right within the threshold of

01:24:39.440 one to three right it does mitigate risk significantly is it always best to have a

01:24:44.260 virgin sure but guess what unfortunately in the world that we live in that's probably not what

01:24:49.620 what you're going to get you're probably not going to get a virgin who's a man either but

01:24:53.360 you can still mitigate all kinds of risk what does he get why do you think what does he get

01:24:57.800 what does he get what does he get he gets so one more time i'll explain what men get out of this

01:25:02.900 even though you keep asking the question i answer it you get what they've always got bad answers

01:25:07.360 you're like here's a bad deal guys you got a bad deal before yeah no you're giving a bad deal not

01:25:13.660 only that here let me i say i have been ever gotten man you've always got one thing man ever

01:25:20.400 man you've always gotten it bad so you should continue to accept it don't dodge pearl what

01:25:26.340 have you men translation men not answering no notice audience she's not answering notice

01:25:31.840 audience he won't notice he's not answering either i did answer i answered 15 times now

01:25:36.960 here's my question to you after i gave you the answer okay what have men ever gotten okay a

01:25:42.020 hundred years ago average six to eight children i believe this is off the top of my head so they

01:25:50.180 so you only care about that's caring about children not about men i'm not done i'm not

01:25:54.800 that's caring about children not about men he got well i i'll finish he got he got a virgin wife

01:26:01.160 who had been with nobody else who stayed with him for a lifetime wait i thought that women's

01:26:06.500 behavior was into was ingrained and that they were always fucking men according to you and that

01:26:12.240 the men just didn't know they might have been they might have been but at least sounds like

01:26:16.580 you know if they if they did if women did at the time it was not as widely known as it is today

01:26:22.780 if women did they may not have they may I wasn't there I'm not going to speak I know but you but

01:26:27.460 that's what you said last time you said no they were still screwing around even then

01:26:30.700 well according the back should nobody well well i mean there's genealogy records that that show

01:26:37.220 that women did step out like there's people that have done like genealogy records and like a lot

01:26:42.400 of times it was the neighbor or something like that i'm not going to go back and forth about

01:26:46.620 100 years ago because i live in i live in i live in i live in ever get but that doesn't matter

01:26:52.260 and that's the whole point you keep going you keep going back into you keep going back to 100

01:26:57.680 years ago i live in the now i don't care yeah i know but you just asked me this question

01:27:01.580 i don't care i know but you keep but you keep and i say and i say this i say here's you keep but

01:27:07.380 you keep deflecting and bringing up the past you're like you're like a woman bringing up the

01:27:11.260 past who cares who cares about 100 years ago andrew you're not giving me any answers here's

01:27:18.200 my answer give me one pearl what did they get what did they ever get right i don't care about

01:27:23.780 100 years ago that's right you got nothing i care because you're talking about the pat what do they

01:27:29.120 get today andrew what do they get the same thing they've always gotten which is a family the thing

01:27:34.680 that seems to make men the most is happy unless you can name something else that men were getting

01:27:38.560 before that and i'm all ears do women do women stay today do women stay today on average at

01:27:47.460 lesser at lesser rates than they used to okay by by for sure they do okay but if you're asking

01:27:52.120 do women that's a different question but you're right they don't but they don't but they don't

01:27:57.620 get it they don't get it a lot of business that's a lie they do get it no they don't a lot of men

01:28:04.840 do i yeah i just gave you those stats and by the way if you're talking about again even when it

01:28:09.220 comes to guardianship it's quadrupled if you're talking about marriage in a christian sense 25

01:28:13.220 divorce low body counts even less are people are more people are more people getting married today

01:28:19.020 or less less i'm glad less secularists are getting married good them okay fuck them i don't care if

01:28:25.500 they get married or not right but this isn't this isn't a religious channel right you're because

01:28:29.580 you're trying to i'm not saying it's a religion you're trying to peddle your you're trying to

01:28:32.620 peddle your religion right and that's kind of what you're trying to peddle outcomes why do i care if

01:28:36.860 secularist men who are he didn't hedonistic want to get married or not it's irrelevant the future

01:28:42.140 belongs to those who reproduce and it's not going to be those who don't get married because they go

01:28:46.620 well the thing is is that i don't feel like what i'm getting uh anything that i have men haven't

01:28:53.100 always gotten for this and the one thing you could name same thing i can name they get children

01:28:57.660 when i said it you said well that's you promoting who did the kids belong for kids

01:29:02.220 who do the kids belong to my turn who do the kids what you do yeah yeah you don't like it's my turn

01:29:08.460 it's my kids yeah you won't even let me answer so who do the kids belong to you're just reframing

01:29:13.100 stop reframing let me finish let me finish the point it's a one-word answer who do the waiting

01:29:17.020 for i wasn't done talking before you interjected with your dumb opinion who do the kids belong to

01:29:23.580 yeah pearl pearl one more can you answer can you do it can you do it yeah yeah yeah it goes to the

01:29:29.020 state right now the the children belong to the state yeah that's terrible that sucks but what

01:29:32.700 it went so when i didn't get out the children belong to the state before they belong to the king

01:29:36.940 they belong to the king yeah you say it's a spurg because you cut me off every five seconds what

01:29:43.100 yeah because you don't have a good answer they don't get yeah i gave you the same answer you

01:29:47.240 gave me which is hilarious right by the way same answer they don't get a family because women

01:29:52.380 divorce pearl can you answer my question don't spurg what's your question okay can you not bring

01:29:58.480 up can you not bring up history can you answer my question don't spurg curl pearl stop stop

01:30:02.280 spurging stop spurging i'm just gonna answer the question let me let me ask it before you

01:30:06.800 starts berging what have men ever gotten pearl i don't care i don't care about history yeah i don't

01:30:13.640 care yeah he has to okay men today have to make decisions off of the information today andrew

01:30:19.460 it doesn't matter what they got it's like what do they get today yeah they get what they've always

01:30:24.640 gotten okay well if you want to keep convincing men to wait for born again virgins totally fine

01:30:30.480 i hope i accept i never can you can you can you ever tell me where i told any man ever to wait

01:30:37.040 for a born again virgin okay why do you keep making that shit up like why you don't even

01:30:43.040 have to what do you want okay you want men to wait for non-virgin women correct no i never said that

01:30:51.040 either i'm talking about the mitigation of risk you said that yeah and here's the thing you can

01:30:56.520 clip it right but i'll counter clip you won't like what you see because i didn't say that

01:31:00.920 i'm talking about the mitigation of risk and when you're talking about the mitigation of risk it

01:31:05.480 still is actually less risky yes right less so i want to do that means optimal no so you want

01:31:12.440 between optimal and risk do you understand like risk mitigation versus optimal so you want men

01:31:18.680 to find women with below what a three body count is that what you're suggesting

01:31:22.600 no just less bodies better okay so what what would you say should be the cap i mean

01:31:28.920 yeah again we're talking about risk mitigation okay sure you're asking for something which is

01:31:34.640 a specificity right okay so uh how many for instance if i ask this question to you how many

01:31:41.660 uh women are should you ever sleep with a woman who's fucked 100 men should a man ever do that

01:31:49.200 could you answer the question yeah yeah but this it's actually answering by showing you how

01:31:54.080 fallacious the actual question is okay so the fallacious the what you're saying is andrew give

01:31:58.500 me a threshold i'm not here to give you a threshold i'm here to tell you about the mitigation of risk

01:32:03.220 the less bodies the better yeah does that mean though that if you have a high body count woman

01:32:07.540 it can't work out no how how would men verify that how would well here's the thing you asked

01:32:15.260 me this last time it was kind of funny right so they would verify it the same way they always

01:32:20.340 verified it they would look at reputation they would look at past history they would talk with

01:32:25.700 friends and you know what's really interesting i went back and i took a look at this and it turns

01:32:29.780 out that when men investigate these things and poignantly ask these questions they actually do

01:32:34.400 get a lot of these answers very quickly you can't actually verify this based on reputation okay so

01:32:39.600 if a woman had a past in a different city how would the man know

01:32:43.520 or she does something with social she does social media families big mouth sisters big

01:32:51.500 mouth friends all the other ways that you would always but if she downloads a dating app

01:32:55.200 how how would how would the guy know yeah i know but you can you can endlessly you can endlessly

01:33:01.100 reduce this hypothetical to the point where you can just continuously add variables like what if

01:33:06.760 a woman was in a forest and she her plane went down she was on a desert island for three days

01:33:11.320 and the news never broadcast it. Could she have slept with a man then? Yeah. But I'm saying that

01:33:16.020 again, when it comes to risk and mitigation, you can do investigation the same way women do with

01:33:20.800 men, by the way, to find out their body count. And you can, in fact, suss out fairly quickly if they

01:33:26.340 have a high one or not. Does that mean always? No. So you think most men can figure it out pretty

01:33:32.560 easy how many people she slept with? Not how many precisely, but whether or not she slept with more

01:33:39.040 than he's comfortable with or has a reputation of lying about sleeping around which would be

01:33:43.360 red flags right okay so you think that's pretty easy so how would so you you just you can just

01:33:48.120 ask around and then men will tell them no well here's the thing about women that's great right

01:33:53.060 they never shut the fuck up so the greatest thing about them is they like to narrate their lives and

01:33:57.320 they like to do that especially with their friends and women also like their friends like to cause

01:34:02.280 trouble if you start poking around inside of a woman's female circle they start blabbing about

01:34:07.260 all kinds of shit about exes where they've been where they haven't been they do this constantly

01:34:11.520 okay so i want to get back to the excitement we never finished the step by step so i'd really

01:34:16.860 like to finish that so you want men to wait for the non-virgin women correct no i don't no so you

01:34:24.840 want them to sleep together my position what's my tell me what my position is you said that you

01:34:30.600 wanted men to wait till marriage i said that would be more optimal okay for men's health to do x thing

01:34:38.520 is not a prescription that they should do x thing so just because it mitigates risk for you as a man

01:34:46.280 to if you fall in love with a woman right for her to have a low body count that still mitigates your

01:34:51.480 risk it's not me prescribing that you go find a woman who's not a virgin and marry her that's

01:34:55.880 absurd we're talking about the outcomes here the pragmatic approach but practically what percent

01:35:03.240 of women do you think are marriageable what percent that's hard to say i don't know

01:35:09.880 as a practice as a whole debate and you didn't even think about this question at all no i thought

01:35:15.400 about the question but it's a very difficult question to notate how many exactly like how

01:35:20.760 how many women have red hair? I don't know. How many women have red? I don't know the actual

01:35:26.180 answer to this. But I still think that somewhere around at least 20, 25% of eligible marriageable

01:35:35.160 women within the element of marriageable men is a good distinct possibility they work out,

01:35:41.120 because that's what the stats show me, that almost 60% of these marriages actually do work out

01:35:46.580 long term if they're under the right conditionals well if they're religious right no no no that

01:35:52.160 significantly increases it from 60 percent okay okay so you want men to find these 20 so the

01:35:58.920 majority of women are not going to work right so you're saying to men you get you might find out

01:36:04.560 one out of four women you might get a wife no no i was talking about the totality of the population

01:36:11.380 okay fine but if you insert risk mitigation for marriageable women right then your odds

01:36:17.560 actually drastically increase yeah you think one out of four women have a body count under 10.

01:36:23.360 no i didn't say that either but you said marriage but i mean i think you think men should accept

01:36:28.740 do you think men should accept more than 10 well here let's just think men should accept more than

01:36:32.740 five well how many women have less than i don't i don't yeah but i don't i don't trust stats that

01:36:37.540 women report oh okay so now so now so now whatever the data says it's wrong too i mean if women say

01:36:43.500 it yeah come on if it's asking women about body count come on andrew you gotta like be realistic

01:36:49.900 here yeah it looks like it's somewhere the average of it is about 50 percent of women by the time

01:36:57.080 their marriageable age have less than a five body count yes that's what i'm looking at you have been

01:37:01.860 out of the dating market too long andrew this is the stats i'm looking at

01:37:05.420 all right guys yeah and now we're looking at marriageable age which is going to be between

01:37:12.940 okay uh the age of 19 and 29 right so we're looking at marriageable age for children

01:37:18.080 now is that the case i don't know if that's the case okay but ultimately who cares ultimately

01:37:23.540 anyway the truth who cares about even if it's damaged who cares about that's not what i said

01:37:28.780 men should just accept that no no at the topic at hand the case of the matter is that even if

01:37:35.040 none of them right now were marriageable and they were all fucking skanks and they all had

01:37:39.180 dozens of bodies we would still be trying to move society towards a reform of such a system

01:37:44.300 and not try to black pill and nihilism all uh that would be stupid ultimately when we look at

01:37:50.620 males men's happiness they want to get married i want to okay okay fine i want to get back to

01:37:55.840 the step by step you're happily married let's let's let's get to the step by step

01:38:01.160 for what we're getting stuck at the the waiting so what's after that

01:38:07.020 so then you marry i don't understand what what is the question you're asking me

01:38:11.540 if you're giving a prescription i want a detailed how to do it so well what you do is you get a

01:38:20.120 club and you walk over to a chick and you bash her in the fucking head and you take her back

01:38:23.620 to your house new banger right that's a detailed step-by-step plan or did you maybe want to talk

01:38:29.700 about viable prescriptions rather than viable andrew gives dating advice which has nothing at

01:38:35.040 all to do with the conversation of moving men towards marriageability yeah but okay so if you

01:38:40.860 want men to get married you can't tell them how to get there really that's really that's fucking

01:38:46.600 stupid what are you talking why would why would i need to be a determining factor for every

01:38:50.920 individual man on earth for a step-by-step guide of how they get married that's fucking retarded

01:38:56.540 okay well like that's literally retarded why would you my producer's on the market 40 year

01:39:01.860 old guy in the midwest what should he do there you go lose weight okay then what i would start

01:39:06.360 with that i'm kidding mr look i took a cheap shot because it was funny i like the guy i thought it

01:39:12.040 was funny i thought it was funny yeah yeah it was a look he's skittier than me i'm just joking with

01:39:18.440 the guy i was kidding okay fine totally fine so yeah i don't know i don't know what the intricacies

01:39:23.200 of his life are every every single individual is going to have a completely so he should make that

01:39:27.840 he should make the decision and not you right no based on where people are in the distinctions of

01:39:33.520 their life well yeah i mean ultimately everyone's going to make their own decision but but hang on

01:39:37.840 stop i'm going to answer your question each individual person on planet earth is going to

01:39:43.680 have a unique set of circumstances which because i'm not an omnipotent god nor psychic have no

01:39:50.400 ability at all so i understand in a comprehensive way but i can still even though i know that that

01:39:56.760 i'm not going to be able to tell how everybody on the road drives i can still tell you that a stop

01:40:01.260 sign fucking works right so if if that's true why do you talk like one like what like you talk like

01:40:08.080 you're the god that knows like the best way for people i've never done that one in fact i just

01:40:12.420 told you that i would not sit here i mean you call people degenerate that you call people

01:40:17.380 degenerates if they don't live exactly how you live no i'm not asking them to live exactly how

01:40:22.180 i live that's ridiculous yeah i mean i mean yes if you're if you're uh i just think people are

01:40:28.900 tired i just think people are tired of getting preached at andrew yeah i mean i think that

01:40:32.780 people are tired of you enabling the degeneracy of homosexuality because you won't give a

01:40:37.100 prescription right like what power do i have to stop them you have the power of the vote the power

01:40:42.860 of influence and not only that here's the other thing that's so funny about this right it's like

01:40:46.540 what power do asking for and when you ask for hang on what real quick before we get to that

01:40:50.540 when you ask for these like detailed give me a step-by-step guide pearl you have a job you're

01:40:55.900 a podcaster right give me a step-by-step guide for how everybody on planet earth gets to work

01:41:01.500 as a podcaster no just as anything well i don't know how to do anything i know how to do

01:41:07.900 do podcast no no just how do people how does every person on planet earth get to work every one of

01:41:14.460 of them as a pod i could tell you how to just ever just ever anywhere at any circumstance i wouldn't

01:41:20.020 say that's really the same but okay it's the same you're asking me to write a prescription for every

01:41:24.220 single individualistic circumstance on earth for every man that's insane i know but i i gave you

01:41:28.860 like what more information you could ask more questions and i could give you specific answers

01:41:33.020 i don't even have to use my producer i mean i mean why like so first of all i'm not a dating coach

01:41:37.700 i know but if i was if i was gonna give a quote like if i was gonna do the podcasting one like

01:41:42.860 i would have a set of questions that i could easily give you a step by step so you can't tell

01:41:47.080 you can't tell based on general circumstance but you need to have so then ask me right so ask me

01:41:53.300 ask me a few questions and then i can give you an example that's my whole point so when you ask me

01:41:58.320 for a prescription for every man on earth i didn't say every man individually ask each of them a

01:42:03.180 bunch of questions i didn't say every man on earth but we can do a hypothetical so that we could do

01:42:07.360 a hypothetical guy then why don't why don't we do a hypothetical it should be easy give me ask me a

01:42:12.360 a few questions yeah yeah yeah so here's the thing again i'm not i'm not okay so i'm trying

01:42:16.380 to answer you're not i'm not a dating coach i've never said that i was a dating coach but the thing

01:42:21.180 is i don't build highways either but i sure know when the highways fucked up pearl okay so you

01:42:27.320 don't have any no i i've answered every single question you don't understand how fallacious the

01:42:32.660 even even the arguments you're making are but how absurd the questions become absurd for me to if

01:42:37.700 you're giving a prescription which i'm not but you are it's absurd for me to ask questions of

01:42:42.580 how to get there no you can ask whatever question you want but just understand that when i equate it

01:42:46.380 to you're trying to get you get me to give a prescription of every man on earth which is

01:42:49.860 stated multiple times and you're then you change it to well this one individual man based on his

01:42:54.700 unique set of circumstances it's going to change and vary from person to person to person to person

01:42:59.520 it's like asking me what kind of car should a man drive based on his unique set of circumstances i

01:43:04.100 don't fucking know did you i mean okay so did you meet my like dad when you were here did you meet

01:43:08.960 him i don't know i don't know okay so my dad he's worked in he okay you might have maybe didn't he's

01:43:14.500 worked in software for like 30 years he's a really pragmatic guy right yeah and the equivalent of

01:43:19.760 what you're saying is like if you an opinion on his software breaking i mean it's cool and then

01:43:26.480 you say oh well this is what you should do with the software and he would say okay well how do i

01:43:30.820 do it and then you say well i can't give you an answer you know and that like he would just think

01:43:36.400 you're an idiot oh and it's the same so like it's the same person was on youtube and was like hey

01:43:42.700 and i know i know i know it i know what you're gonna like yeah i know what you're gonna you're

01:43:47.200 gonna try to equate it um so and that's kind of what you're doing you're saying youtube should

01:43:52.400 have a live check oh yeah do you know how to put one in no well then you shouldn't tell them that

01:43:57.520 i just i just in my my opinion that is literally i'll just my opinion is you've just kind of been

01:44:03.220 out of the dating game too long maybe and i i think you would get eaten alive like i think if

01:44:08.140 you believe that half of women have three bodies i i don't know how you believe that for doing like

01:44:13.620 whatever i said i know but you're literally not what i said okay okay fine fine fine the body

01:44:20.300 count stats that you cited would be so ridiculous to any guy actually they may be listen right they

01:44:26.540 maybe i don't really really said i don't based on what i don't right i know i know i know but

01:44:31.260 i don't even know how you believe them with like being on whatever i didn't say i believed them

01:44:36.280 okay like i've never said any of this i don't know if the best approach is gonna i don't know

01:44:44.100 if your prescription is working in the modern world i think it's gonna leave a lot of guys

01:44:49.980 frustrated do you pearl do you have any prescription um however i do you have any

01:44:55.240 prescription as i've said i don't tell men how to live no you have no i don't how do you criticize

01:45:00.900 anybody for anything you have nothing i don't i well what i do is i do report on the facts and

01:45:07.180 the trends and where i see things going i'm in the business of prediction yeah that's fine to

01:45:11.120 be a newscaster you keep i i that's what i do right so i do i do that but then how can you

01:45:17.220 criticize anybody's i do the call-in shows um yeah well i don't criticize if you say this is a way

01:45:23.560 you can do it or you could do it that way you mean all the things that i just said when you're

01:45:28.180 but when you're saying if you don't live how i live you're a degenerate never happened you and

01:45:32.500 you that's what you insinuate um you can keep saying i will specifically say like homosexuality

01:45:38.800 is degenerate yes absolutely but if a guy chooses to live life on his own terms and not your terms

01:45:45.520 you insinuate that there's something wrong with them yeah if a man decides to live a life of

01:45:50.040 promiscuity and drugs i think he's degenerate yes that's correct yes but i mean this is all kind of

01:45:54.660 like i mean come on were you a virgin on your wedding day like come on never said i was i was

01:46:00.440 also i was also deeply steeped myself like in the degeneracy of promiscuity i know but so the way it

01:46:07.600 comes across to a lot of people is i had my fun but you can't and that's how that's how it that's

01:46:13.860 how it's going to come off the people i see and i like so therefore so therefore and i am somehow

01:46:18.700 and i am somehow morally superior because you've ever done anything wrong so i also smoke and tell

01:46:24.320 my kids not to smoke what a scumbag i just i can't believe why would i do that well that's

01:46:28.540 totally fine with your also tell my kids not to i'll also tell your kids not totally fine with

01:46:33.940 your kids not to smoke but these are these are adult men like they don't need to be nagged right

01:46:38.740 you're like turning into a woman where you're nagging them nobody's now the only one who's

01:46:42.460 nagging them is you because you're trying to knock down every single societal prescriptor

01:46:46.720 possible to help them. That's not what I said. I said, if men want to try, if men want to try your

01:46:53.280 way, I have no problem with that. You can try it. I don't think it's pragmatic in the modern world

01:46:59.860 based on what I've seen, but who am I to tell a guy how to date? What is pragmatic in the modern

01:47:05.180 world? Can you tell me that? I think it's tough. Um, I don't, that's not a fucking answer. It's

01:47:11.380 not pragmatic what's pragmatic i don't know i think that i think most men can come up with their

01:47:16.180 own solutions better than me a youtuber then how can you make a claim that anything i say is not

01:47:20.980 pragmatic when i say well then what is pragmatic and you say i don't know i wouldn't predict that

01:47:25.940 it would work i could give my opinion right okay but what i'm not gonna do is i'm not gonna label

01:47:32.980 adult men as degenerate if they don't live according to my personal what is the most

01:47:37.300 pragmatic thing men can do what i i think the most pragmatic thing that men can do is look at

01:47:42.480 the facts and make a decision based on the information he has about his own life i think

01:47:48.020 if but i don't think i don't you mean exactly what i have been saying the entire time no but

01:47:53.680 you say that you have the answers and i don't think you do because i think that what answers

01:47:58.260 did i say i had i think that the prescription you gave of a step-by-step of how to get to marriage

01:48:03.500 would not work in the modern what prescriptions did i get for that um you gave a prescription

01:48:10.140 on waiting for a woman that does not wait no no i didn't give that as a prescription i only gave

01:48:16.540 it as a contrast of outcome for men who go and hook up with those women and don't get married

01:48:22.700 having worse outcomes that is not a prescription that you should do the thing pearl for the 30th

01:48:28.220 time okay well it's just both things bad one thing worse right so but the way you're talking

01:48:34.740 it's like you're the ultimate morality police of what's good and bad right give me a single

01:48:39.680 moral prescription that i've given and a single one well you insinuated that men are degenerates

01:48:44.760 for what they do in their sex lives like i don't think donald trump's a degenerate

01:48:48.300 even though he's been married three times i think he was a degenerate i think i don't think so

01:48:53.240 I think yeah, I don't think so so so then I just want to make sure I got this, right?

01:48:58.800 Any sexual behavior men engage with you don't believe is degenerate?

01:49:03.220 I think men are responding to the rules that women made

01:49:06.340 Can you yeah women so I don't be great. I don't yes or no I would be great. I

01:49:11.520 Gave you an answer. I know yes or no. Is there anything?

01:49:15.480 I will sexually with people I will find degenerate men and they fuck a dog man

01:49:20.680 if they fuck a dog are they degenerate men are responding to the rules that women made

01:49:25.640 so so i if a man fucks a dog can we call him degenerate that's just gross okay can we call

01:49:33.860 it can we at least say that's degenerate um i mean i would just say it's disgusting like that's

01:49:39.940 but not degenerate you're still not willing to call that degenerate i mean if you want to like

01:49:44.720 be them if a man grabs another man if you want to if you want to like essentially if you want to

01:49:49.560 essentially like act as a preacher it's totally fine i just think people are tired what's the

01:49:53.640 preaching there's no preaching i just asked you a question i've never preached on this channel

01:49:57.600 ever i'm still not preaching i'm just offering real world solutions under the same very i totally

01:50:03.140 i'm totally so my question my question can you at least say that a man who fucks a dog is a

01:50:09.580 degenerate um that's disgusting i'll call that a degenerate fine okay fucking finally but a man

01:50:17.440 who fucks another man up his hairy asshole is not um i mean i just don't care if he does that

01:50:23.220 is that a degenerate or not i mean it has to gross but you don't know you don't know if that's

01:50:27.980 degenerate okay i'm just not here i'm not here to tell men what to do in their sex lives i think

01:50:33.420 people are tired of getting policed and like men from the time i'm sorry that some men are tired

01:50:39.080 to get men men that's not what i'm saying like men from a young age are shamed for their sexuality

01:50:44.780 they're shamed from a super young age they're told they're they're not like they're wrong for

01:50:49.440 watching corn they're told they're wrong for wanting to have sex with women they're told

01:50:53.020 they're wrong for approaching i don't think we need another person telling them they're wrong

01:50:57.220 this is great they're wrong they're wrong they're wrong stop interrupting me stop yeah yeah all the

01:51:04.960 things you think have bad outcomes for men so still promote like i'm trying to be i'm trying

01:51:09.440 to be nice but like you're on my show can you stop interrupting me please yeah you interrupt as much

01:51:13.280 as i do if not okay i i don't think that's true but it's okay and by the way who's on whose show

01:51:17.540 right now really you're right you are a very big youtuber okay you're very big you're very famous

01:51:22.660 okay so um but i just think men from a young age have been shamed for their sexuality i don't think

01:51:29.660 they really need someone else doing it and it just comes off as like a holier than thou when you're

01:51:34.440 constantly calling them degenerates for responding to the environment that women made. I don't think

01:51:40.700 it's pragmatic for most men to wait until they're 30 to have sex. I don't think that, and most women

01:51:47.060 don't select most men until they're in their late 20s, early 30s. Go ahead. So let me get this right

01:51:52.320 just to make sure that I have this correct. I know me, Pearl Davis, don't want to govern the

01:51:57.260 behavior of men. How dare you call men who engage in sexual promiscuity degenerates, even though

01:52:01.980 that would be you know you governing the behavior of me man right pure hypocrisy on display yes

01:52:07.380 well i can't control it i mean i can't control anything they do yeah but so somehow you can

01:52:12.320 give a prescription that i shouldn't be doing that but i can't give a prescription for what

01:52:15.680 well you can you totally can you totally can but it's just but you just think people are tired of

01:52:21.180 it they're tired of men saying this is really bad for men i think for their own health i would say

01:52:27.220 that men are pretty tired of being nagged for their sexuality in general oh well i mean that's

01:52:34.200 terrible that men get get told that they're not allowed to have anal sex with other men because

01:52:39.280 they're degenerate that's just terrible somehow i think that men though by and large are going to

01:52:44.240 agree with me on this that degenerate behavior and honorifics in men is something which men

01:52:49.440 generally tend to steer clear of especially on honor cultures which is the culture that we come

01:52:54.660 from yeah i don't think that that has anything to do with religion at all i just i don't think what

01:53:00.400 you're selling is a good sell so okay well i mean i think i'm selling something at least right you're

01:53:06.280 not selling anything just descript totally like a news broadcast like the red pill news broadcast

01:53:10.520 i do i do the news you know it's fine all right but yeah i don't i don't think men are gonna

01:53:15.240 really watch this and think this is a great thing i'm getting a ton out of this because

01:53:20.440 i just there's no selling point you get a ex-ho that's like pretty much what you're saying or

01:53:26.520 maybe a girl that's fucked two other dudes literally not saying any of that in fact the

01:53:30.320 opposite in fact i'm trying to initiate inside any sort of reform so that we can get away from

01:53:35.660 that but the second i do you call it you say how dare you preach about degeneracy okay is that like

01:53:40.340 well wait you can't have high body counts if they're not fucking on pearl right they can't

01:53:44.080 have high body counts if they're not fucking one thing called social shame which leads to

01:53:48.120 degeneracy i just is that i don't think anything you're saying is very realistic i think it like

01:53:53.380 kind of sounds like you just switch between these two arguments is it that i call degenerates or

01:53:57.300 that you think it's not realistic well i think there yeah i think there's two parts to it the

01:54:01.120 one is that you're shaming men for their behavior and their sexuality and two is that i think that

01:54:08.140 um none of the changes that you're talking about really are realistic anytime soon and so men have

01:54:15.620 to make decisions on marriage today. And unfortunately the value prop you're saying

01:54:21.220 just isn't great because at the end of, because at the end of the day, men's kids don't belong to

01:54:25.920 them. Women have more power in the media, in the state and, um, in society in general. And so I

01:54:33.820 don't really see this, that men rushing to sign up to get married. Great. So tell me again,

01:54:39.140 what's the most pragmatic thing men can do right now then um it depends on the guy i can't speak

01:54:46.960 about men as a collection okay yeah the most prac the most pragmatic thing that men can do

01:54:53.520 i don't know depends on the guy andrew walk me through dating well i don't know it depends on

01:54:57.740 the guy because you're giving a prescription but it's okay not only that it's okay i do i do have

01:55:02.760 another i do have another guest coming so i do have to yeah yeah but i got one lesson just real

01:55:07.640 quick okay okay to to summarize this i gotta i'm listening i'm just sending yeah my interest is in

01:55:13.420 men's health and men's welfare and wins in men's well-being ultimately i've given nothing but

01:55:19.560 great prescriptions towards that you've given nothing towards that instead you just offer

01:55:24.000 epistemic nihilism over and over and over again and you can't actually refute any of the points

01:55:28.340 without telling me what i should be doing it's like a performative contradiction on his face

01:55:32.400 okay now listen here's the thing that's funny about this i won't go on a monologue for a closer

01:55:37.300 here i did enjoy the conversation ultimately and i know as heated as this got i want my entire chat

01:55:42.540 to know and yours too i don't have any problems with hannah never will i don't have any problems

01:55:47.380 with pearl davis all right i've always respected the work that she does but sometimes this kind

01:55:52.540 of like in-house slugfest is necessary and good for all sides and i still consider her to be a

01:55:58.800 friend i know that this was a very heated debate ultimately but i don't have any bad blood towards

01:56:03.880 you i just want to let you know that i have a lot of bad blood towards you i'm never talking to you

01:56:08.020 again that's fair i'm just kidding that's fair anyway hold on i think that this sort of thing

01:56:13.820 is good ultimately yeah um have you debated like um who have you debated in the red pill space

01:56:20.020 i don't know a lot of them i was just curious okay well thanks for coming on we have amorous

01:56:26.760 husbands on next you know who that is oh yeah oh that's gonna be wild i'll do a i'll do a rate

01:56:33.080 over to your channel too okay because that's going to be a fucking wild one but look really

01:56:37.040 there's no bad blood i know that my job is to debate my world be the best i possibly can

01:56:41.660 sometimes that has created conflict with people like you who are friends of mine in the past

01:56:46.180 i definitely don't want that and i am very much a supporter of the types of work that you do with

01:56:51.620 the descriptors that you put out i think that they're golden many of them i've used many of

01:56:55.180 those stats myself so there's no bad blood here never think for a second there is okay all right

01:57:00.340 thanks for coming yep you know what the funny thing is i always am hesitant to use your first

01:57:06.680 name because i forget yours is public yeah no because so many people in this space are like

01:57:12.240 not public so i always have to like think about it first i'm like wait no i can i don't have to

01:57:17.100 call you the crucible thanks for coming andrew all right thank you pearl have a good day okay

01:57:22.040 bye all right guys so next we got amareth and then i'm gonna read super chats

01:57:28.080 um okay we got over a thousand people do you want actually doug mpa can you send him the link

01:57:36.820 yeah because i want to see if he has any thoughts on the conversation

01:57:40.220 actually would have been interesting i should have brought both of them up i feel like doug

01:57:44.240 mpa would have loved this um okay so let's do supers all right andrew is completely out of line

01:57:57.700 Most things, he says, are usually on point, but his homophobia is on full display at this time.

01:58:03.360 Lookit, I'm kind of homophobic, too.

01:58:05.500 I just, like, I just don't care.

01:58:08.400 Andrew's stepdad are men that women wouldn't date if they have kids.

01:58:11.700 Andrew, Andrew's a stepdad.

01:58:13.140 Pearl, your value, pragmatism, and happiness above any other outcome.

01:58:16.700 Zero moral ground, the same as your liberal and feminist followers.

01:58:20.040 Pearl sounding like a modern 304, I guess so.

01:58:23.780 Pearl versus pale man from Pan's Labyrinth.

01:58:26.420 um i'm oh my gosh peter i made love to my first wife she passed away i married again and made

01:58:32.240 love to her what does that make me a degenerate obviously yes we and this is my point they peddle

01:58:38.800 religion so um like you just every time someone's trying to sell you something they're always gonna

01:58:46.660 like push things like towards their worldview and that's the problem yes we are peddling religion

01:58:52.000 if you don't believe in any higher purpose then there's no reason to get married or have a family

01:58:55.840 or do anything except party.

01:58:57.360 Yeah, and I think that's the other point.

01:58:59.620 Most people aren't that religious.

01:59:01.480 Marriage is a sacrament of the church

01:59:02.900 and not a piece of paper.

01:59:04.580 Also, I forgot he met you,

01:59:06.000 so I'm sorry you got dragged into this.

01:59:08.900 I forgot he met you in person.

01:59:11.780 You were this fantasy guy.

01:59:15.400 I was like, no, don't roast my producer.

01:59:18.060 Don't do that.

01:59:20.060 He's innocent in this.

01:59:22.980 History, they got a real possibility of family.

01:59:25.380 democracy's design has been failings

01:59:27.980 we've reached it

01:59:28.760 you can't stop what people believe in good or bad

01:59:31.620 collapse is likely the only option left

01:59:33.600 you guys are talking past each other

01:59:35.780 Andrew cares about higher meaning

01:59:38.020 and purpose in his world view

01:59:39.400 one of the Christian ethics

01:59:40.560 Pearl is strictly sticking

01:59:43.820 to the material in here and now

01:59:45.520 the

01:59:47.340 parasocial weirdo Gen X

01:59:49.680 fans only subscribers are

01:59:51.680 mad they're daddies they live vicariously

01:59:53.780 through getting wrecked get a surrogate um men's reward is further out of reach than in history

02:00:00.480 this is the point the non-set if the product is good people will buy um will line up is historically

02:00:07.260 and evidently not true at all it's called getting a surrogate destroys his argument kids raised by

02:00:12.340 a single father do just as well as a two-parent household don't need real marriage um ask if

02:00:17.140 things have gotten worse oh i should have asked that good question he can't acknowledge it's

02:00:21.300 gotten worse. What men get in family and children in a lifetime commitment, being a father and

02:00:27.720 raising children with a mother is its own reward. It fills a base. Women either ignore

02:00:34.500 NIST or deny it exists. Women could fix all of this if they wanted to. They created the system.

02:00:40.040 They have votes. Men didn't break the social contract. Women did. And since they're so smart,

02:00:44.400 why don't they fix this? Urban families are non-existent. People don't communicate anymore

02:00:50.260 just looking for that money yes men get what they always got for marriage and kids but the risks and

02:00:55.640 costs for the gambler way up a thousand times in the past years andrew you're arguing against the

02:01:00.400 rational analysis of billions of men men get a family which gets destroyed it's easy to make

02:01:06.220 silly of girls look bad but when andrew is over his head dealing with pearl men garnered authority

02:01:11.160 and respect from their wives that was their benefit um egalitarians will never allow male

02:01:15.600 authority the allure and history of the possibility of getting a family was much higher and reasonable

02:01:20.240 he can't acknowledge it's getting worse from history oh my gosh there's so many um

02:01:26.420 shuts up everyone i really enjoyed seeing andrew on louder with crowder for me personally seeing

02:01:32.160 andrew getting on bigger outlets i'm predicting eventually a collision course with at andrew

02:01:38.020 and matt walsh prescription isn't the problem getting there is omg from the cave the dude

02:01:42.380 reminds me of an apocalypse giving the gospel i'm gonna have to change my day of evening plans now

02:01:47.340 women's influential control politics aka government and companies for advertisement they have the

02:01:52.620 power over propaganda and try convincing power to give up power great prescription but you can't

02:01:57.840 make it um look at the support we're oh wait i read this one okay let me refresh and then

02:02:03.380 doug mpa can give his points um okay doug mpa how you doing hey bro how are you doing i'm good

02:02:20.640 what's going on um so i like andrew wilson all is b team pro because i've been supporting you

02:02:29.200 since before you got famous um my biggest thing with andrew is he keeps doing the whole

02:02:38.880 men oh society and one of the best quotes i've ever heard is women change the social rules to

02:02:49.640 the 20th century and the 20 in the 20th century and the 21st century is going to be men responding

02:02:54.640 to it and men like andrew does not they do not men like andrew don't like how men are responding

02:03:01.400 to the how women rewrote society and he makes a false dichotomy between you're either virtuous

02:03:07.840 and you're a man in a marriage or you're being a bunch of whores and that's not true the red pill

02:03:12.500 never says just bang a bunch of whores guys you don't have to be a pack fuel for some woman you

02:03:18.500 you just don't and men don't get anything out of the average man doesn't get anything out of marriage

02:03:25.100 i'm sorry and also with religious prescriptions we all know that religious women can be as big

02:03:32.120 of whores if not bigger whores than secular women there is a social infrastructure in place

02:03:38.280 to reward women being um not having virtue and not being virtuous

02:03:44.540 so andrew says look for virtuous women okay what incentive do women have okay

02:03:52.800 for a woman to be virtuous she has to act in a virtuous way right like christians you have to

02:04:03.100 choose to be a christian you labor yourself you labor yourself as one and you choose to live that

02:04:07.480 lifestyle if a woman is to be virtuous she has to to exist in a virtuous way in modern

02:04:13.620 society women aren't virtuous and they are celebrated for not being virtuous so there's

02:04:21.440 no point in me getting married if they don't get anything women will divorce you they'll take your

02:04:26.880 kids and here's the thing the only thing worse than being lonely and men being loneliness and

02:04:31.600 being unhappy is getting your family ripped away from you paying alimony and child support while

02:04:36.860 your wife bangs her personal trainer on your dime and the red pill the worst thing that could happen

02:04:45.160 is usually that so i'd rather be lonely by myself than be a guy that bought that bought a bad deal

02:04:54.120 and now his wife gets the benefit his ex-wife gets the benefit for the rest of his life while he's

02:04:59.060 in poverty and so i like the fact that andrew is so hopeful and so optimistic but

02:05:06.960 you got to live now guys your emotional mental spiritual and monetary health is at stake

02:05:15.500 and no one is going to care about you unless you care about yourself and here's the thing

02:05:21.140 what a lot of these trad cons don't realize is that us red pill people we can say don't get

02:05:27.760 married all you want don't get kids don't have kids all you want but men are going to keep doing

02:05:33.200 men are going to keep making decisions because that's what men do we're cost benefit calculators

02:05:37.760 we make decisions the red pill is just about awareness we want men to make the best decision

02:05:42.760 possible because no matter the decision whatever the outcome is it's your fault you have to take

02:05:49.340 responsibility for it and there's been 40 50 years of unadulterated unfiltered unchallenged

02:05:56.260 misandry in this country and also one last thing anything that's taken for granted take it away

02:06:05.620 take it away from the person and see what happens that's what men are doing right now men have been

02:06:10.980 taken for granted for the past 50 years men have been women's little you know little golden shiny

02:06:20.100 toy that they've been you know tossing around and and kicking around and and throwing in the mud and

02:06:26.980 stuff they've been taking their shiny little toy for granted men are saying if you think you're so

02:06:32.500 strong independent go right ahead and see what happens and so i'm all for men unplugging minding

02:06:41.300 your own business don't get married don't have kids men most of the people alone throughout

02:06:48.660 history have been men now we can see what happens when it's women women think they want the smoke of

02:06:56.580 being a man but they don't know what that entails being a man is a long hard road it's not fun but

02:07:05.620 it's also the greatest responsibility and the greatest gift that you could possibly have is

02:07:11.860 the journey of a man women thinking they want the smoke so let them find out live life on your own

02:07:20.020 terms as long as you're not being a terrible person you're not harming others so i just don't

02:07:26.740 like with especially with religious people i'm not religious but these religious prescriptors

02:07:31.860 pearl tries to make her um her content for relatable to all men not just christians

02:07:40.900 muslims or whatever because all men can get got all of them can

02:07:45.140 so pearl is trying to appeal to as many men as possible and so anyway so i just

02:07:55.960 i like andrew he's my favorite um debater right now i like watching him cook these hoes but when

02:08:04.700 it comes to modern dating and what men have to go through it it's rough out here man it's rough

02:08:11.820 out here um i'm gonna read on from the website if you guys have anything on the website you do

02:08:17.260 get unlimited super chats on the audacity network.com the link is in the description we are on

02:08:22.160 both app stores it was a good heated debate it got very heated but i enjoyed it i think you should

02:08:26.740 continue this with him but maybe have rachel on at the same time okay yeah probably we could do it

02:08:33.200 again um okay the i didn't see andrew was talking about what do you think about the argument doug

02:08:42.620 that he was saying how like it's best for men to get married and he just wants he just does what's

02:08:47.360 best for men so you the biggest i don't have any children right and my my parents say oh why do you

02:08:55.720 have any children i say because i'd have to have a children i'd have to have a child with one of

02:08:59.620 these modern women modern women have no duty to anything they what is more important to women and

02:09:09.600 what can get women to care more about anything except their own selfish desires what

02:09:19.440 what nothing how can you i think that men in their dna still have um they still strive for

02:09:27.440 what's best for society god country family but women don't have that same responsibility and

02:09:34.240 that same duty you always say on your channel pearl there's people have this misnomer and this

02:09:39.520 Make the mistake that women are the more nurturing gender and in 2025, but they're not they're simply not men are more nurturing than women

02:09:47.740 I mean, I'm lying women put there and I think that the one of the main

02:09:54.760 Motivations and tactics of modern women is they want to take a successful ambitious

02:09:59.560 God-fearing man and when they get married have that man set aside

02:10:04.600 His ambition his desires for her selfishness desires

02:10:08.400 a woman could have a husband

02:10:10.960 have a family and still be thinking

02:10:12.960 about herself

02:10:14.680 the man is planning for the wife and the children

02:10:17.040 and the woman is planning for herself

02:10:19.140 nothing

02:10:20.700 in 2025 is more

02:10:23.120 important to women than their own

02:10:25.100 selfish desires

02:10:26.340 and that's what guys look and you

02:10:29.060 don't put into the equation

02:10:31.040 you're giving

02:10:32.980 prescriptions for men but they still have to

02:10:35.140 deal with these women

02:10:36.060 man yeah I just would never like if someone took his prescription and ended up committing suicide

02:10:42.000 would he feel responsible well I mean and that's and I'm not trying to like be a doom and gloomer

02:10:47.180 but it's like I would feel responsible if someone took my advice and they went like that's why you

02:10:53.320 know you have to make the decision because the responsibility for it's on you it's not on me

02:10:57.680 like I don't have to deal it's easy for an influencer to say what you should do with your

02:11:01.040 life and like why did he keep saying that i didn't that he didn't say to wait for a non-virgin woman

02:11:06.640 like did i miss something he did say that did he not well i mean there needs to be another

02:11:13.060 term besides a born again oh he just didn't like the term i'm like what else are you gonna call it

02:11:19.260 like yeah it's like a woman that's not a virgin getting virgin benefits like what else are you

02:11:24.480 guys and to people that are from angie's channel on here um you want to be the guy that the woman

02:11:32.480 sleeps with on the first date because most night it's a 90 of women have slept with a guy on the

02:11:37.760 first date you want to be that guy you don't want to be a guy that she makes weight because then

02:11:43.920 i mean come on now but all right so that that channels and then you become this guy

02:11:49.920 All right. Have you seen the Amherst beef yet?

Pearl - May 13, 2025

Andrew Wilson Returns to Pearl Daily ｜ Amouranth's Husband Calls in ｜ Pearl Daily

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