Pearl - March 31, 2026


Ashley Sheatz on Beth Stuckey: "IM NOT A 304!"


Episode Stats

Length

13 minutes

Words per Minute

171.03212

Word Count

2,268

Sentence Count

59

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary

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Ashley shares her testimony about her conversion to Christ and how it has impacted her life and how she has been treated by the world since she made the decision to leave her former life of drugs and alcohol. She also shares how she and her ex-husband Trevor have dealt with the aftermath of her conversion and how they have handled the backlash.

Transcript

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Misogyny classifications generated with MilaNLProc/bert-base-uncased-ear-misogyny .
Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
00:00:00.000 why would i expect to be praised and admired by over 34 million people when jesus himself was now
00:00:07.440 okay now she's comparing herself to jesus which is incredible the way i've seen the bible stretched
00:00:12.480 and interpreted over the years like it seems like they could stretch the bible into saying anything
00:00:17.840 like it seems like damn near they can make the bible say let's bang on camera like at this rate
00:00:23.920 that's what's gonna be next yeah every sim is sin is redeemable but like some are worse than others
00:00:31.360 do you know what i mean it's like some are worse than others and she has shared this story publicly
00:00:37.680 now there are a lot of christians who are supporting them like my friend samuel say he
00:00:41.760 says professing christians who are offended by this or telling on them like i had someone be
00:00:45.360 like oh pearl you wouldn't go to church and i'm like all right one that's true that's true i don't
00:00:49.920 don't go to church but like you've made poorer life choices than me like just because you go to
00:00:56.360 church it doesn't undo the fact that like you used to do drugs right it's like it doesn't it
00:01:03.540 doesn't undo the fact that you used to uh bang married men or married women do you know what
00:01:10.560 i'm saying i'm like i'm not saying i'm a saint but like themselves jesus is going to marry a
00:01:16.040 formerly promiscuous bride, the church. Hello. Some of you are acting like you won't be a part
00:01:22.120 of the wedding. Mic drop. Samuel continued quoting Proverbs 18.22 and saying, he who finds a wife
00:01:28.620 finds favor with the Lord. He advised users to take their advice, Twitter users, ex-users,
00:01:33.340 take their advice from God over fools on social media. Owen Stram also defended Ashley and Trevor
00:01:42.580 um and also pointed out that ashley shared her testimony publicly on an online platform
00:01:50.420 in 2020 so this is certainly not the first time again that her testimony has circulated
00:01:57.740 she's gotten all kinds of insults she's been denigrated in all kinds of ways just because
00:02:03.900 not only her vulnerability but because her husband along with her but on his account
00:02:09.780 also like why do we keep why do we keep putting on a pedestal over sharing everything look i'm
00:02:15.920 an oversharer okay i'm an overshare this is a problem i i'm i tell you guys way too much like
00:02:21.100 sometimes i'll meet a fan and they're like well how's your bread making going and how's your diet
00:02:26.120 going and i'm like oh i say too much on stream i really do i see too much on stream but let's not
00:02:33.200 pretend that's a good thing right i think i i have the i have the perspective to be like oh we got to
00:02:38.240 dial this back that that's not a good trait that's a bad trait over share we gotta we gotta share
00:02:45.760 less as a society um church is seen as not judging women saving safe haven that's why men are leaving
00:02:52.000 and in general are hoarding and varieties that keep them accountable yeah so shared her story
00:02:58.580 and yeah that's going to seem scandalous to the world because most people can't understand that
00:03:04.340 level of honesty and transparency and the lack of shame that you have once you are in christ i for
00:03:11.220 one thought it was a beautiful testimony i think ashley's testimony points to the because you're an
00:03:16.660 idiot right i mean just because you have a lot of followers it doesn't make you smart so yeah i mean
00:03:22.980 you're gonna think that you know race and redemption and the opportunity that each and every one of us
00:03:28.740 has in christ and i'm so thankful for her courage um she posted becoming a christian
00:03:34.660 in general opens you up to ridicule slander and shame and now she gets to be the victim
00:03:40.020 and she's saying oh um everyone's bullying me because i'm a christian and i'm like nobody
00:03:46.340 would bully you if you tweeted a bible verse but you need one of these sweatshirts she belongs to
00:03:51.300 of the streets yeah um it's because you're using your conversion story for money and clout and
00:04:00.060 attention but it is worth and status worth it for the sake of the gospel jesus is worthy blessed are
00:04:07.360 you when people insult you and persecute you she's quoting matthew 5 11 and falsely say all kinds of
00:04:13.240 evil against you going to any church or subscribing to any religion does not absolve you of the wrong
00:04:19.100 things you did previously in life that's not how the world works correcting your behavior with or
00:04:23.280 without religion does because of me so that i don't know i don't have the big e i don't have
00:04:28.220 a big ego to know how the world works like i don't know um yeah so i don't know it's her perspective
00:04:35.360 but i know when something sounds like bullshit on all of this praise god ashley is here today
00:04:40.760 to share her testimony with us coming out of the darkness of abuse and the new age and promiscuity
00:04:48.320 and into the light of Christ. Without further ado, here's our friend, Ashley Sheets. Ashley,
00:04:54.000 thank you so much for taking the time to join us. So first, I just want to hear from you.
00:04:58.280 What was your reaction when you saw your husband's post go viral and then get so much backlash?
00:05:04.740 Thank you so much for having me. I was surprised when Trevor told me that he made this post and
00:05:12.500 it's really doing well i was like okay like he's he's done great posts before and that have gained
00:05:19.980 traction before so i didn't really think of anything of it but then it just kept getting
00:05:25.720 more and more traction and it's reaching millions of views and it was shocking but i wasn't
00:05:34.860 embarrassed at all by it because again i've been sharing my testimony for years it was more of a
00:05:41.320 Praise God. Praise God that my testimony is being seen by millions of people, millions of unsaved.
00:05:53.440 Yeah. So that's quote, I am better than you because I dunked my head in holy water and you
00:05:58.500 didn't. You were a cam girl. It just wasn't that hard for me to not do cam work. And I got offered
00:06:05.180 a million dollars okay it wasn't overly difficult people and the gospel is being magnified in that
00:06:13.980 i'm zero shame i and my husband knows i do not mind him at all sharing any aspects of my testimony
00:06:22.860 he's a wise godly man i trust what he does and he is um discreet when he needs to be and
00:06:31.340 And I had no issues with it.
00:06:34.280 And even though there's been a lot of backlash, again, I always praise God when I'm reviled and persecuted for righteousness sake, as Jesus talks about in the Beatitudes.
00:06:48.120 It is a blessing.
00:06:49.440 It's hard, but it's still a blessing.
00:06:52.360 Slash Allie.
00:06:53.440 Hearts of Fire 2 reads stories of women around the world who have been courageous for Christ for years on X.
00:06:59.600 but then also like professing christians people in the conservative world saying this is embarrassing
00:07:05.520 how could you throw your wife under the bus like that was that hard to see it might have even okay
00:07:10.160 i don't really care about him throwing her under the bus i think she threw herself under the bus
00:07:16.220 because she's been talking about this publicly for years have been people that you were fans like
00:07:19.900 why don't you just to prove that you're about it why don't you guys not get any money or attention
00:07:25.940 or anything from the story and just become a christian stuff yes yes it step it's been hard
00:07:32.620 to see you know other people you've looked up to in the past but like yeah this is absolutely
00:07:38.040 horrible and you know calling me derogatory words which trevor never said that sure sure the word
00:07:45.760 was promiscuous and you can relate it to that horrible word but like imagine um you're nagging
00:07:53.160 because he said promiscuous and we assumed whore like what else do you want you were a cam girl
00:07:59.400 um ali claims the label of christianity but she is a works-based believer and sadly she'll realize
00:08:05.720 the hard way that jesus is not bought off by being good enough well okay yeah still he never called
00:08:12.760 me that and it's in and of itself that word is derogatory yeah so yeah yeah it was it was it's
00:08:20.680 hard again but it's been a blessing yeah so we've seen all of the public backlash but has there been
00:08:28.680 anything privately either bad or good that has surprised you messages that you've received
00:08:33.640 conversations that you've been able to have so of course it's been i'd say more backlash than
00:08:40.040 anything of course it's reached over 34 million people yeah i'm totally gonna expect that because
00:08:47.000 because Allie, as you know, the way is narrow in the Christian walk. And this is a dark, dark
00:08:54.940 world. Why would I expect to be praised and admired by over 34 million people when Jesus
00:09:03.180 himself was now? Okay, now she's comparing herself to Jesus, which is incredible. You're not Jesus,
00:09:09.260 right? Again, you're not being persecuted because you became a Christian. You're being persecuted
00:09:13.740 because you're still a whore who loves attention and it's clearly clout chasing you know it just
00:09:18.780 is what it is hated for his message and uh it was shocking in the sense yeah he wants to be
00:09:27.680 praised and admired uh you know as a human it's it's hard to be persecuted and um even attacked
00:09:35.920 for my looks and just all the worst words that you could think but i have also around and find
00:09:43.560 out get off the internet it's not that hard see such beautiful messages from people saying i am
00:09:50.040 so happy that i found you and that god led me to you and your testimony because i have a similar
00:09:58.360 past and i never thought i could experience the blessings that you've experienced now with you
00:10:04.440 you know, having a godly husband and just people messaging me that they're just been crying from
00:10:13.400 reading my testimony and have been blessed by that. And even that just cancels out like all the
00:10:20.700 bad, you know, and, you know, you probably know the scripture. I can't think of it off the top
00:10:27.420 my head, but how heaven just rejoices when one sinner repents over all the righteous people,
00:10:36.240 you know? Totally. And praise God for that. And there will be stories like that, that you never
00:10:41.520 even see until you get to the other side of glory. There will be someone you meet in eternity in
00:10:46.560 heaven who will say, you don't know. Like what egos do they just assume they're getting into
00:10:51.160 heaven? Just incredible. This never ends. This is a married mother spending her day instead of
00:10:56.740 watching her kid defending a 3-0 foe.
00:10:58.900 Me, but I heard your testimony
00:11:01.480 through this crazy viral post.
00:11:03.380 And when it seems like God is doing one thing,
00:11:06.120 he's actually doing a million things.
00:11:07.720 And so often we can't actually see what those things are.
00:11:11.460 And I know that you're not fishing for compliments,
00:11:14.140 but you are really, really beautiful.
00:11:16.260 Not only just beautiful in your-
00:11:18.420 Mid, stop it.
00:11:19.940 You're both mids.
00:11:21.860 I'd actually rate her higher than Allie
00:11:24.060 because Allie just, I don't know,
00:11:25.900 her face moves weird. She's got too much work done. But yeah, I mean, fours, fives face, but
00:11:33.760 just beautiful because I really see the light of Christ and the peace of him shining through you.
00:11:39.640 A lot of people would be, I mean, like, do you hear this? This all sounds like witchcraft. I see
00:11:44.360 the peace, the light of Christ shining through it. Like there's too many women words used in
00:11:49.900 Christianity. I want it to be male dominated men. Broken over what they're seeing on the internet
00:11:56.620 about them. As you said, it's really hard, but you have peace because of Christ. And so I just
00:12:01.620 want to hear your testimony. It is incredible. You've shared it in the past. You're so open
00:12:06.140 about it. Take us back to the very beginning because the hardship that you went through in
00:12:12.740 your life really starts when you were little, right? Yes. Yes. So I never grew up in a religious
00:12:19.560 household at all don't care i never knew you don't need religion to tell you not to fuck on camera
00:12:26.260 it's not that hard jesus was and i grew up um in a family a broken family really my mom and my dad
00:12:33.140 were never married i don't care pack they split excuses up when i was about three years old so i
00:12:39.540 have it can never be their choices it's always oh it was my family it was this and it's like well
00:12:44.520 i know women in those exact situations who just didn't want to do cam work like it wasn't hard
00:12:50.660 point this out please pearl over the righteous people i don't get the could you read type
00:12:55.500 whatever you're trying to say over the righteous people okay you gotta say in a different way i
00:13:00.260 don't get it all memory of them ever even really being together and both my dad and my mom are
00:13:06.540 they don't have any religion so I never grew up with like like you don't need God to not do cam work