Pearl - June 04, 2026


Based Orthodox Wife Says She OBEYs Her Husband and Her Pastor!


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8 minutes

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177.99

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1,551

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48

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9

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In this episode, we talk about the importance of obedience in our marriage and how we can cultivate it in all areas of our lives. We also talk about why the word "obey" is such a controversial word in the modern culture.

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00:00:00.440 If their husbands actually told them what to do, they would probably get frustrated most of the time.
00:00:05.260 But I think it's just been, we've had a hundred years of people telling them the wrong things.
00:00:11.100 I think that Ephesians 5 tells us that the man is supposed to love his wife,
00:00:17.600 and I think part of that usually involves listening to his wife.
00:00:22.000 Just like any good king listens to his subjects and his queen.
00:00:26.200 I don't I don't tell him what to do but I make a lot of suggestions and I got a lot of Irish blood
00:00:32.020 in me so sometimes that's more forceful than other times but ultimately I obey so he makes
00:00:38.880 the final decision you give your input when is telling a man too much to do like when does it
00:00:43.740 become nagging oh I think it's just person to person it it depends a lot on your relationship
00:00:54.380 but I mean if you've mentioned it again and again and again maybe give him some time or give him
00:01:03.460 some encouragement or give him some space to let him do the thing that you're asking for or if it's
00:01:10.000 at the heart of the matter he doesn't actually want to do it then get to the heart of that
00:01:13.020 and husbands should voice that if they're like no I actually don't think that's a good thing to do
00:01:18.140 that's their job what happens when the husband and the priest disagree
00:01:22.560 oh like who would you if hypothetical situation the priest tells you one thing the husband says
00:01:31.380 another who are you listening to well it's important that you get into a marriage with
00:01:36.740 somebody who you're on the same terms with and we agreed before my husband and i got married that
00:01:43.340 if we ever disagreed on something, we would go to the priest, our priest, the priest that we had
00:01:49.000 both chosen to submit to and get his advice on. So we haven't yet encountered a situation where
00:01:56.680 we disagreed, where we weren't just like, okay, we'll agree with whatever, whatever he says,
00:02:02.000 because we know that the priest has our best interests at heart. And he's, he's been charged
00:02:07.340 by God to give us direction. Why do you think this is such a controversial word? You know,
00:02:12.700 A lot of, I've had women scream at this sign. 0.97
00:02:15.360 Yeah, I'm sure.
00:02:16.460 I wasn't sure what the vibe was when I approached here.
00:02:20.120 Why do you think it's such a conch?
00:02:21.600 I'm trying to normalize it.
00:02:22.560 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:02:23.240 No, I agree.
00:02:24.200 I think we should normalize it. 0.87
00:02:25.780 I think feminism, the whole 20th century, has made us fear the word obey. 0.92
00:02:31.840 Even from Christian women, despite it being literally in Ephesians 5,
00:02:36.380 seem to have an issue with that word being used, which I think is odd.
00:02:40.800 But I think it's just been a lot of a lot of programming and brainwashing over the last hundred years that have told us that that word is a bad word.
00:02:49.340 And I think they probably have either a Hollywood construed vision or a their own bad experiences vision of someone, a man abusing that power and making obedience look harmful.
00:03:06.720 How have you worked on obedience personally? 0.90
00:03:09.380 Because I would say most women it doesn't come naturally to. 1.00
00:03:12.080 Yeah, right.
00:03:12.860 So how have you worked on it?
00:03:14.880 Well, I started with, I'm only going, I started by becoming Workbox.
00:03:20.220 And then I said, I probably am right now only going to be able to obey my priest and my husband whenever I marry him.
00:03:27.340 So far, that is still pretty much the only people that I'm good at obeying.
00:03:30.480 but I try and cultivate it just I mean I picked a good husband he's good at shepherding me in
00:03:40.020 the right direction gently as is my priest they both are good at laying down the law in a way
00:03:46.500 that is helpful and gentle to me but I try and just look at them and realize they love me they
00:03:55.640 want the best for me I'm saying they because I'm talking about my husband and the priest
00:03:58.240 and most husbands I'm sure they want what's best for me they love me and I can trust them to make
00:04:06.020 good decisions so I most of the time need to just put down my will and my pride have you ever had a
00:04:12.780 situation where you really thought you were right but then because you obeyed like you later realized
00:04:18.180 he was right I'm sure what's it honey what's a scenario where I've obeyed and at first I didn't
00:04:26.000 want to but then later i realized you were right almost anything to do i never remember i'm surprised
00:04:35.900 they have such short-term memory where we remember stuff forever it's usually still silly stuff i
00:04:42.800 mean he's given me a lot of good advice on relational stuff where uh if i was just
00:04:47.720 Yeah. Yes. Dealing with family arguments or friend arguments. He's, he's really good at
00:04:56.700 he'll tell you to like stay out of it or something. Yeah. Stay out of it or keep peace
00:05:00.500 or, uh, be gentle in how you approach this or don't get your pride all mixed up into it. Um,
00:05:07.920 and there are times where in the moment that's really frustrating or as a mom,
00:05:11.160 there are times where I get really overwhelmed and it's easy to let that just get to you and
00:05:16.100 build up and in the moment I do not want to calm down at all but once I consider that he's right
00:05:24.580 and I've had some time to calm down I can usually approach the situation better why do you think 1.00
00:05:30.260 that women think it's okay to tell their husband what to do but it's not but they would never do
00:05:37.040 that to a boss so in essence like you'd never go to your work and say do this do this do this to 0.99
00:05:42.120 your boss but women are comfortable doing that to their husbands they probably think well I think 1.00
00:05:50.020 they would say that it's because them and their husbands are equals and equals should be able to 0.96
00:05:54.900 tell each other what to do occasionally when you're in a partnership if their husbands actually
00:05:59.340 told them what to do they would probably get frustrated most of the time but I think it's
00:06:03.560 just been we've had a hundred years of people telling them the wrong things about what leadership
00:06:10.640 is and what their natural role is and it turns out that they usually don't respect their husband
00:06:17.540 after 20 years of their husband not telling them what to do yeah that's a big one that leads a big
00:06:22.220 one yeah that leads to some toxic toxic relationships terrible terrible 25 years in
00:06:27.840 they realize how do you switch how do you switch that if he's never told you what to do ever right
00:06:32.280 yeah that's i think that's the reason for a lot of decline in in good marriages yeah in the last
00:06:36.940 a couple decades so do you think that women are lesser than men no absolutely not we're all equal
00:06:43.960 created in the image of god it's not about uh equal worth or equal value equal image bearing
00:06:52.320 we all bear the image of god but there is a natural hierarchy and order to everything just
00:06:58.060 like i don't believe that my children are worth less than me or any less valuable i think they're
00:07:03.000 the preciousest thing on the earth, but I tell them what to do. Yeah. Well, do you think though,
00:07:07.860 if there's an order that means men are above us, like if it goes, God, men, women, children,
00:07:12.120 that men are, and it doesn't mean it's a bad thing, right? Yeah. I actually, I'm with you. I
00:07:16.880 think they are above us, uh, not in a, like they're worth more than us thing in that kind of
00:07:23.560 way, but they are above us just like a boss is above an employee, but it doesn't make either of
00:07:28.700 and less valuable. Last question. What do you think of women taught Bible studies?
00:07:35.000 Women, like women leading women in a Bible study? Yeah. Well, we're not huge on Bible studies in 0.93
00:07:41.720 the Orthodox Church anyway. Really? We don't do a lot of like sitting around and reading the Bible
00:07:47.120 together and coming up with our own interpretations. If we're going to do a study, there's usually a
00:07:53.820 deacon or a priest leading that study or a catechist somebody who's been decided upon by
00:08:00.380 the clergy because they have a good head on their shoulders and they're trained and they've gone to
00:08:04.460 seminary so we're not we're not too big on just sitting down and feeling like interpreting what
00:08:09.960 the bible means to us that day anyway um but again a clergy position usually means a man not a woman
00:08:18.080 God. 0.96
00:08:19.200 So, yeah, right. 1.00
00:08:20.320 I don't necessarily have a problem with women discipling each other 1.00
00:08:24.940 or reading the Bible and giving each other advice based off of that by any means. 0.98
00:08:29.320 But women-led Bible studies might be a weird one for Orthodox way to understand.
00:08:38.440 Well, thank you so much.
00:08:39.600 This is great.
00:08:40.340 Yeah, okay.
00:08:41.080 This is great.
00:08:41.600 That's it.
00:08:41.880 Thank you for asking.