Pearl - June 04, 2026


Based Orthodox Wife Says She OBEYs Her Husband and Her Pastor!


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8 minutes

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1,551

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48

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Misogyny

9

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00:00:00.440 If their husbands actually told them what to do, they would probably get frustrated most of the time.
00:00:05.260 But I think it's just been, we've had a hundred years of people telling them the wrong things.
00:00:11.100 I think that Ephesians 5 tells us that the man is supposed to love his wife,
00:00:17.600 and I think part of that usually involves listening to his wife.
00:00:22.000 Just like any good king listens to his subjects and his queen.
00:00:26.200 I don't I don't tell him what to do but I make a lot of suggestions and I got a lot of Irish blood
00:00:32.020 in me so sometimes that's more forceful than other times but ultimately I obey so he makes
00:00:38.880 the final decision you give your input when is telling a man too much to do like when does it
00:00:43.740 become nagging oh I think it's just person to person it it depends a lot on your relationship
00:00:54.380 but I mean if you've mentioned it again and again and again maybe give him some time or give him
00:01:03.460 some encouragement or give him some space to let him do the thing that you're asking for or if it's
00:01:10.000 at the heart of the matter he doesn't actually want to do it then get to the heart of that
00:01:13.020 and husbands should voice that if they're like no I actually don't think that's a good thing to do
00:01:18.140 that's their job what happens when the husband and the priest disagree
00:01:22.560 oh like who would you if hypothetical situation the priest tells you one thing the husband says
00:01:31.380 another who are you listening to well it's important that you get into a marriage with
00:01:36.740 somebody who you're on the same terms with and we agreed before my husband and i got married that
00:01:43.340 if we ever disagreed on something, we would go to the priest, our priest, the priest that we had
00:01:49.000 both chosen to submit to and get his advice on. So we haven't yet encountered a situation where
00:01:56.680 we disagreed, where we weren't just like, okay, we'll agree with whatever, whatever he says,
00:02:02.000 because we know that the priest has our best interests at heart. And he's, he's been charged
00:02:07.340 by God to give us direction. Why do you think this is such a controversial word? You know,
00:02:12.700 A lot of, I've had women scream at this sign. 0.97
00:02:15.360 Yeah, I'm sure.
00:02:16.460 I wasn't sure what the vibe was when I approached here.
00:02:20.120 Why do you think it's such a conch?
00:02:21.600 I'm trying to normalize it.
00:02:22.560 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:02:23.240 No, I agree.
00:02:24.200 I think we should normalize it. 0.87
00:02:25.780 I think feminism, the whole 20th century, has made us fear the word obey. 0.92
00:02:31.840 Even from Christian women, despite it being literally in Ephesians 5,
00:02:36.380 seem to have an issue with that word being used, which I think is odd.
00:02:40.800 But I think it's just been a lot of a lot of programming and brainwashing over the last hundred years that have told us that that word is a bad word.
00:02:49.340 And I think they probably have either a Hollywood construed vision or a their own bad experiences vision of someone, a man abusing that power and making obedience look harmful.
00:03:06.720 How have you worked on obedience personally? 0.90
00:03:09.380 Because I would say most women it doesn't come naturally to. 1.00
00:03:12.080 Yeah, right.
00:03:12.860 So how have you worked on it?
00:03:14.880 Well, I started with, I'm only going, I started by becoming Workbox.
00:03:20.220 And then I said, I probably am right now only going to be able to obey my priest and my husband whenever I marry him.
00:03:27.340 So far, that is still pretty much the only people that I'm good at obeying.
00:03:30.480 but I try and cultivate it just I mean I picked a good husband he's good at shepherding me in
00:03:40.020 the right direction gently as is my priest they both are good at laying down the law in a way
00:03:46.500 that is helpful and gentle to me but I try and just look at them and realize they love me they
00:03:55.640 want the best for me I'm saying they because I'm talking about my husband and the priest
00:03:58.240 and most husbands I'm sure they want what's best for me they love me and I can trust them to make
00:04:06.020 good decisions so I most of the time need to just put down my will and my pride have you ever had a
00:04:12.780 situation where you really thought you were right but then because you obeyed like you later realized
00:04:18.180 he was right I'm sure what's it honey what's a scenario where I've obeyed and at first I didn't
00:04:26.000 want to but then later i realized you were right almost anything to do i never remember i'm surprised
00:04:35.900 they have such short-term memory where we remember stuff forever it's usually still silly stuff i
00:04:42.800 mean he's given me a lot of good advice on relational stuff where uh if i was just
00:04:47.720 Yeah. Yes. Dealing with family arguments or friend arguments. He's, he's really good at
00:04:56.700 he'll tell you to like stay out of it or something. Yeah. Stay out of it or keep peace
00:05:00.500 or, uh, be gentle in how you approach this or don't get your pride all mixed up into it. Um,
00:05:07.920 and there are times where in the moment that's really frustrating or as a mom,
00:05:11.160 there are times where I get really overwhelmed and it's easy to let that just get to you and
00:05:16.100 build up and in the moment I do not want to calm down at all but once I consider that he's right
00:05:24.580 and I've had some time to calm down I can usually approach the situation better why do you think 1.00
00:05:30.260 that women think it's okay to tell their husband what to do but it's not but they would never do
00:05:37.040 that to a boss so in essence like you'd never go to your work and say do this do this do this to 0.99
00:05:42.120 your boss but women are comfortable doing that to their husbands they probably think well I think 1.00
00:05:50.020 they would say that it's because them and their husbands are equals and equals should be able to 0.96
00:05:54.900 tell each other what to do occasionally when you're in a partnership if their husbands actually
00:05:59.340 told them what to do they would probably get frustrated most of the time but I think it's
00:06:03.560 just been we've had a hundred years of people telling them the wrong things about what leadership
00:06:10.640 is and what their natural role is and it turns out that they usually don't respect their husband
00:06:17.540 after 20 years of their husband not telling them what to do yeah that's a big one that leads a big
00:06:22.220 one yeah that leads to some toxic toxic relationships terrible terrible 25 years in
00:06:27.840 they realize how do you switch how do you switch that if he's never told you what to do ever right
00:06:32.280 yeah that's i think that's the reason for a lot of decline in in good marriages yeah in the last
00:06:36.940 a couple decades so do you think that women are lesser than men no absolutely not we're all equal
00:06:43.960 created in the image of god it's not about uh equal worth or equal value equal image bearing
00:06:52.320 we all bear the image of god but there is a natural hierarchy and order to everything just
00:06:58.060 like i don't believe that my children are worth less than me or any less valuable i think they're
00:07:03.000 the preciousest thing on the earth, but I tell them what to do. Yeah. Well, do you think though,
00:07:07.860 if there's an order that means men are above us, like if it goes, God, men, women, children,
00:07:12.120 that men are, and it doesn't mean it's a bad thing, right? Yeah. I actually, I'm with you. I
00:07:16.880 think they are above us, uh, not in a, like they're worth more than us thing in that kind of
00:07:23.560 way, but they are above us just like a boss is above an employee, but it doesn't make either of
00:07:28.700 and less valuable. Last question. What do you think of women taught Bible studies?
00:07:35.000 Women, like women leading women in a Bible study? Yeah. Well, we're not huge on Bible studies in 0.93
00:07:41.720 the Orthodox Church anyway. Really? We don't do a lot of like sitting around and reading the Bible
00:07:47.120 together and coming up with our own interpretations. If we're going to do a study, there's usually a
00:07:53.820 deacon or a priest leading that study or a catechist somebody who's been decided upon by
00:08:00.380 the clergy because they have a good head on their shoulders and they're trained and they've gone to
00:08:04.460 seminary so we're not we're not too big on just sitting down and feeling like interpreting what
00:08:09.960 the bible means to us that day anyway um but again a clergy position usually means a man not a woman
00:08:18.080 God. 0.96
00:08:19.200 So, yeah, right. 1.00
00:08:20.320 I don't necessarily have a problem with women discipling each other 1.00
00:08:24.940 or reading the Bible and giving each other advice based off of that by any means. 0.98
00:08:29.320 But women-led Bible studies might be a weird one for Orthodox way to understand.
00:08:38.440 Well, thank you so much.
00:08:39.600 This is great.
00:08:40.340 Yeah, okay.
00:08:41.080 This is great.
00:08:41.600 That's it.
00:08:41.880 Thank you for asking.