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- January 17, 2025
Ben Shapiro Is CAUGHT Simping For 304's But Wants To DESTROY Andrew Tate | Pearl Daily
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Word Count
4,104
Sentence Count
344
Misogynist Sentences
48
Hate Speech Sentences
31
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Ben Shapiro has been caught simping again.
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So today I came in and I was totally expecting to only talk about the TikTok ban.
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I mean, that is a huge story.
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And as someone who started on TikTok, I do have a special place and have a special place
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in my heart for it.
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But I also have a special place in my heart for simps.
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And I think simps are a sad case because many of them just really need help.
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They are willing to die on the hill of OnlyFans whores and women, women taking accountability
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for nothing while holding men accountable for everything.
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Now, I saw a clip of Ben Shapiro talking about how the right should dump Andrew Tate.
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Now, am I the right?
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Am I not the right?
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I don't know.
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I guess I'm going to find out.
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So for the inauguration of Donald J.
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Trump is the 47th president of the United States.
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Watch live.
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Join the fight at dailywire.com slash subscribe.
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I want to start today with a controversy that erupted online, but is sort of indicative
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of a broader problem that the right currently has with, say, the influencer class.
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This controversy erupted because Benny Johnson had on Andrew Tate.
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Andrew Tate, for those who don't know, is an online provocateur.
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He is mostly famous for one time being a kickboxer, and now he sort of runs around with his shirt
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off with fancy cars and good looking women and smoke cigars and says, is that a bad sell
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for young men going to see this and be like a guy who's jacked and runs around with sports
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cars and hot women?
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Let me just turn the TV off.
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Let me.
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OK, hold on.
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You just put Pearl Reed in the comments section.
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As some things that are sort of useful critiques of the left, but mostly says crazy stuff online.
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And he has generated an enormous following, an enormous.
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So Benny Johnson had on Andrew Tate and he also had on at the same time Alina Habbo, who
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is a counsel for the Trump team.
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And Alina Habbo was really praising Tate.
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And so was Benny Johnson.
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And this erupted into a controversy.
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Here's what that sounded like.
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Nice to meet you.
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I'm a big fan.
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Well, nice to meet you.
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I'm a fan.
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You're the one saving Trump.
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You're doing more important work than me.
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America, America, not just Trump.
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And I agree with everything you just said.
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And I think that you're.
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Now, remember the way women dress, they're signaling something.
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So if she's going on a show with Andrew Tate and she's coming with her boobs out, what is
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that signaling?
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I don't know.
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You guys can be the detectives here.
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All right.
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I think her anger is the same that President Trump has for our country.
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And the time is now for us to stop being wimps.
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I think that's exactly the right sentiment.
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And I also have to say that I sympathize with you because I think you go through a lot of
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the same show me the person.
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I'll find the crime that President Trump has gone through.
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OK, what Alina Habba is saying there is not actually true about Andrew Tate.
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He is not of the same ilk as President Trump.
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Find me the person and I'll find you the crime.
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That is true of President Trump.
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That is not particularly true of Andrew Tate.
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And Russell Brand, of course, rushed to the defense of all of this.
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Russell Brand then suggested that anyone who objected to the treatment of Andrew Tate on
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the right, that they needed to sort of check their problems at the door.
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Here was what Russell had to say.
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Someone like Andrew Tate with the audience he has could make a significant difference
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if correctly backed.
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He does say some stuff that's pretty out there.
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But the fact is, in a democracy, if someone is able to glean popular support, they can have
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a mandate.
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They should be represented.
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I suppose what's more significant and interesting to me is the way that figures like Andrew
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Tate or Tommy Robinson have always been maligned, I think, to place an impassable threshold
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around systems of influence and power.
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You can have your own views of Andrew Tate.
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You might think he's misogynistic or vulgar.
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But the fact is, he appeals to a lot of people and he represents some things that a lot of people
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are very interested in.
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OK, so I think that the way that some people are defending Andrew Tate today is a conflation
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of a couple of different ideas.
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So I think there is a big difference between having people on, have whoever you want on.
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That's totally fine.
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Free speech and all the rest.
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That's totally fine.
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And cheering on bad people who don't actually care.
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But see, you know, what is he doing?
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This is why people hate conservatives.
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OK, I'm going to virtue signaling.
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He said he's signaling I am the more moral guy.
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He is not as moral as me.
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And what always tends to happen is later we find out and I'm not saying this is true with
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Ben, but we often find out that they're not as moral as they've been signaling for years.
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Because, again, what is the money in signaling morality?
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They think that they're the arbiters of morality.
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About your principles.
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And Andrew Tate is the latter.
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Now, again, let me say right at the outset, I am not upset at all with anyone actually just
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interviewing Andrew Tate.
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Go for it.
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Have at it.
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There are tons of excellent questions to ask Andrew Tate.
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But none of these people are asking you can't get along with someone too well that I deem
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immoral.
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I, as a grown man, I'm going to tell you another grown man how to run your show.
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The audacity.
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The audacity.
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You have millions of people that watch you.
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Why are you if he wants to bring him on and not ask him tough questions, that's his choice.
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And rotate any of those questions.
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Instead, a lot of people are sort of glomming on.
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Answer my questions.
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I have the right questions.
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I'm the smart guy.
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I have all the right questions.
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To his very online popularity in order to get clicks.
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And some people are dishonestly conflating interviewing Andrew Tate with cheering for
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Andrew Tate or applauding him or talking about how brave and wonderful he is.
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And Andrew Tate is not brave and wonderful.
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He rips off thousands of people with his scam hustlers university.
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He preaches the virtue of treating women in a way you would never, ever allow anyone to
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treat your wife or your daughter.
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Now, I want to show you, you can tell, this is why I say money, look, status doesn't mean
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somebody's red pill.
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There's a lot of guys with money that get completely abused by women because there's their blue pill
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and they think morality is bringing something to the table in dating.
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There is zero morality in dating.
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Women line up down the street for serial killers.
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Even the so-called good women, our programming, our hardwiring is the same.
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No one is saying you can't have Andrew Tate on your show.
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It's a free country.
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You should do what you want.
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What I'm saying is that if you say you're conservative and then you have someone who
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truly is disgusting on and you proceed to tout them, praise them, not along to everything
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they say, cheer them.
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You're doing more than platforming, which again is fine.
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Platforming, the idea that you can never have a conversation, you can have a conversation
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with whomever you want, but there's a difference between having a conversation with a person
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and becoming a propagandist for that person.
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If you're a person, for example, who purports to stand for biblical values or American values
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or traditional values, you probably have a more...
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Again, this is just more virtue signaling.
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I've had enough of the virtue.
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Like, this is where Daily Wire loses the plot.
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It's just endless.
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I am moral.
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I am the moral one.
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Moral obligation.
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I probably certainly have a moral obligation to ask Andrew Tate, who is a self-stated bad
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man, hard questions about his actions and his beliefs and his past.
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Not to, as so many on the right have, help him falsely rewrite his legal record or ignore
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all of the things he's actually said while nodding enthusiastically.
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Now, right now, he has not been convicted of a crime.
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If that changes in the future, we can revisit it.
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But right now, he is a free man.
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He has not been convicted of a crime.
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And the other thing we all know is that when men are in the justice system, Conor McGregor
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just was found guilty in civil court.
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I didn't think he was guilty of that crime either.
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Okay, let's keep going.
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See, here's the thing.
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Andrew Tate, now he's trying to play himself off as a politician.
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He's not.
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He's an influencer.
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He's an online troll.
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That's really what he is.
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Now, he's trying to start some sort of party in the UK.
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But he's not a conservative politician.
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Now, remember, Ben Shapiro didn't like Trump either.
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And this is the challenge is guys like Ben and like the more of the dorky, nerdy guys,
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they never took the time to learn charisma and people skills because they just never had
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to.
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They worked a lot of hours.
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They never had to do it, right?
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And so they get ticked off when the charming guys come in and get better results than them
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in all things.
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When Tate comes in and has more influence than him.
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When Tate comes in and is running for office.
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Now, I'm not saying Tate's going to win.
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I don't know.
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I'm not.
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I don't know if he has the right experience to be running, to be a politician.
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We'll see.
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But I want to go more into the psychology of this.
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For example, trying to push conservative policies where part of the job of the interviewer is
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separating out his agenda from his personal behavior.
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Like what does the public get out of this person versus what they do in their private
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life?
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That is a question typically reserved for politicians.
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That's not what he is.
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He's an online troll and he revels in precisely the evils conservatives hate that is his entire
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like not some of it, his entire self-stated persona.
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If you don't ask about that, you're not doing your job as a conservative.
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Okay, Ben, where was this video for Nala who is grifting Christianity?
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That was at your company.
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Your company also falsely accused Steven Crowder of being an abuser.
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You guys never issued a retraction ever.
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So am I going to take you seriously when now you're virtue signaling about Tate?
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A conservative as a traditional person, a person with actual values.
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Now, listen, I understand the appeal of Andrew Tate.
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I get it.
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I've seen his stuff.
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He's really charismatic.
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And for decades, the hatred of traditional masculinity in our society has been so strong,
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so thoroughgoing throughout the media, throughout politics, from our institutions, from our
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colleges, everywhere that people, including people on the right, have run away from traditional
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masculinity altogether.
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And they've sort of feminized what masculinity is supposed to be.
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Now, we're going to go into this, right?
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What he's going to do is he's going to, the only masculinity that's celebrated is going
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to be the masculinity that's in the service of women.
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If there's any masculinity that benefits the man, like a man making a lot of money, spending
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it on a fast car, he's going to shame it.
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To conservatives, all things masculinity have to be spent on women.
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Women can put themselves on OnlyFans, but if a guy puts the woman on OnlyFans, if the
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guy says, you know what, let's make more money, you can work for me, then he's the bad guy.
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The male sex drive is strong.
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That's part of masculinity.
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If a guy chooses to sleep with multiple women, that's shame.
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That said, you're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong.
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But if women wait till 32 to have a kid, they don't bat an eye, they don't say anything.
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Even though women are essentially changing, or women are essentially doing the same thing.
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Okay, let me keep going.
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Young men for at least a generation, maybe two, have basically been told they were useless
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at best and toxic at worst.
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And that leaves a giant vacuum, a vacuum for somebody who can sort of cosplay masculinity.
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And Tate fills that vacuum with his form of masculinity.
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But masculinity has good iterations, and it also has really, really ugly iterations.
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And the iteration that Andrew Tate pushes is not a responsible masculinity, a traditional
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masculinity that is all about channeling the sort of testosterone-fueled side of man into
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protecting women and children and civilization and building good things.
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But the kind of masculinity that tears everything good down, sort of barbarian masculinity that
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is interested in destroying rather than building.
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Now, Andrew Tate plays a WWE heel.
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He knows it.
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I mean, he's not making any bones about this.
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He released a video yesterday, a very long 21-minute video, rambling video, sitting in
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a jacuzzi in cold weather, smoking a hookah, and basically saying that he wants to be the
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most hated man on Earth, and that he makes money off of that.
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And he's telling the truth about that.
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That part is true.
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And again, that's part of masculinity.
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It's men don't care what other people think like women do.
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Women are much more concerned about our reputation.
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Some men, you know, they could be the most hated guy on the planet.
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They don't care.
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He doesn't mind.
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But here is the thing.
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Andrew Tate is, at best, a crap sandwich.
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He presents totally differently to different audiences.
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So for people, sort of traditional people on the right, when he's in interviews with
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them, he will present as a sort of low-rent, anti-feminist talking head.
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Doesn't know much, but he's saying the things that need to be said, bashing left-wing woke-ism.
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Ben, you guys do the exact same thing.
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You barely touch family court.
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A lot of the things that you talk, and this is, I want you guys to understand why.
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Conservatives have to keep the women working.
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If your wife is running up the credit card and spending 80% of the household income, and
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part of that is money for Ben, they have to keep women working.
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They can't go after family court.
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So what do they do?
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They go after a low-hanging fruit.
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Trans issues, that's low-hanging fruit.
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I've played volleyball since I was like 10, and I had one tournament that a trans person
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was in.
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And to be frank, guys, women supported it.
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The men there, they didn't support it.
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Women sometimes just shoot ourselves in the foot.
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So he's doing the exact same thing.
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And then, to the crazier side of the internet, he'll present as an anti-Semitic radical who's
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willing to violate any taboo for the fringes.
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And then, when he's sitting down with someone actually conservative, he'll pretend he's
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an upstanding person who cares about family values and that he's been out of the sort
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of scam business for a while.
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In the end, what he really is, is a con artist.
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And he's actually kind of an evil con artist.
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Not kind of, if you believe the allegations against him in their life.
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Ben, you had destiny on.
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Destiny.
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Destiny is known.
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He is known for sleeping with all the women he streams with.
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They have sex tapes on the internet.
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But, because that's good for business, you guys didn't bring that up.
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No, no.
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Bring up the important points.
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Lots of them.
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An actually evil con artist.
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Even if you just believe the stuff he said about himself.
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What he says is evil.
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He made his money off of cam girls.
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Which is to say, he is a self-professed pimp.
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And he made his money grooming women for the industry.
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Now, all the people on the right, who are very upset, correctly, about the grooming gangs
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in Britain, are going to have to explain why they're...
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We're going to...
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This is, again, it's going back to the morality police.
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Now, what...
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I'm going to Google right now.
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What percent of men, of men, watch corn?
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One, 70% of American men, approximately 70% of American men and 40% of women watch online
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corn.
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So, odds are, he's probably on the other end of it, okay?
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Other thing I want to bring up is the way that conservatives see women is they see women
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as these angelic creatures who can do no wrong.
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They see when women are sexual, they always blame the sexuality on the men.
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It's men grooming them.
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It's the other thing that's really low-hanging fruit is they'll say, oh, feminism convinced
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women to do this.
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No.
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There's no morality in dating.
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So, I made a little PowerPoint.
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I made this really quick, so you'll have to...
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You'll have to...
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So, a lot of times what happens is, I want...
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This is Hitler.
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Now, we could agree, not the best guy.
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I know that's a dispute nowadays, okay?
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I know that's a dispute.
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But can we, for the sake of it, say, not the greatest person ever, okay?
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Now, this was his wife.
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What would you guys rank his wife 1 to 10?
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I know this was the 20s, so, you know, you can't really see the body.
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The women actually covered up back then.
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But would you guys agree higher than a 6?
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What about...
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Okay.
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6 or...
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What?
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She's a cool person?
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Yeah, if you're real.
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She committed suicide with Hitler because she loved him so much.
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He got a goodnight kiss every single night.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, she loved him so much that she committed suicide with him.
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Now, I mean, they might have killed her anyway, okay?
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But that's the point.
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There's no morality in dating.
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The most moral people...
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There was this idea that, like, the most moral people get the best outcomes.
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Like, the best, the most stand-up, the best men are going to have happy marriages.
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And the players, they're the ones...
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They're going to get karma someday.
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And I'm telling you, go watch 10 videos of men that were divorce-graped.
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Do they seem like bad guys?
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You know, women are more likely to stay with abusive men.
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And I know because the cope is always, well, that's just the bad women.
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There's these good women out there.
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The hard...
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Look, there's worse and better.
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There's higher risk and lower risk women, right?
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There's, you know, women with married parents, women that were raised by crackheads.
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You could argue one's better than the other on a balance of probabilities.
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But we're still women.
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One woman might be going for the drug dealer.
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One woman might be going for the promoter at the club.
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Anyways.
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Now, these are the dorky guys.
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Now, I'm a bit of a dork, too.
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I'm not judging, but I'm just being objective here, okay?
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It takes one to know one.
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Now, the people that are more dorky have not gone through the trouble of learning charisma.
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That's such a great skill.
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And the men, like Hitler, I don't like to say this, but the guys, maybe I should, I don't
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want to get YouTube done.
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The men that are the same arc, I'll say the bad boys, because I don't want to say his name
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too much in this stream, just because I don't want YouTube to come get me.
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But the bad boys have taken the time.
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There's either the natural ones, the guys that have just been smooth talkers from a young
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age, or the ones who slept with a million women, spoke to a million women, got really
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jacked, like did all the things.
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We have like a million standards.
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So they've gone through the journey of charm.
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Now, these guys, the men that have gone through the journey of charm, they're getting the 22
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year olds throwing themselves at them.
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So these guys will come in and say things like compatibility is important, right?
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They'll say like, oh, compat it like that.
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We have to be in the same socioeconomic background.
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These guys, they know it's not important.
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Even though, well, it was to this guy, sorry, bad example.
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But so these guys, when they see women being overly sexual because they've never seen that
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side of women, a lot of men never see it.
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Their wives aren't that way with them.
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They think the women are being groomed, you know, because Ben Shapiro told the story of
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how he met his wife.
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He had to beg his wife to marry him.
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This is his words.
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He said, my wife, I asked her to marry me.
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She told me no, and then later said yes.
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Do you think that Hitler had to beg his wife to marry him?
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There's no morality in this.
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Now, again, when women are younger, they're more naked.
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When they get older, they start putting clothes on.
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That's just kind of how it works.
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So, oh, wait, hold on.
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So these guys have only really seen the women after their slut phase.
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They get them in the born again Christian phase.
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And, you know, like, for example, most of them will meet their wives in their late 20s,
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early 30s, and they're going to come to them like the Virgin Mary, like they weren't in
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the club like two years ago.
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Now, the thing is, the bad guys of the world, they know that women like the raunchy stuff
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more than men.
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It's not the men that want to tie up the women.
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And if you look at the corn that women watch, women watch more violent corn than men.
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If you look at the shows that women watch, it's about serial killers.
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It's The Handmaid's Tale, which is a show about women that get tied up and graped once
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a month, that they're literal sex slaves.
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And this is what we choose to watch.
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62% of women admit to having grape fantasies.
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And remember, there's an incentive here.
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It's higher.
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But again, these guys only get the, the dorky guys, they don't get that side.
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Because when women get closer to 30, we become more in survival mode.
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We got to pick something for long term.
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No, sorry.
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Okay.
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Now, the other thing is that the women of today are sex workers.
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They're already, we're already doing it.
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You know, if I have a private investigator coming on my show telling me that over a quarter
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of women under 35 are sex workers, if I go look at the number of women on OnlyFans, it
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matches.
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These guys will say, well, you're inflating the numbers.
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No way.
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These guys will say, I am not surprised.
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I'm not surprised at all.
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I could have told you that.
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That's why I put my wife in a burqa.
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The Muslims know.
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Oh, they said, always keep a pair of handcuffs next to the vet.
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Look, look, I'm not here to tell you what to do, what not to do.
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You guys are men.
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Do what you want with your life.
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All I'm saying is that you're going to notice there's tells that men don't know.
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Naive men become targets because women with experience know that they will never even bother
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to look into their past.
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You know, that's why a lot of church guys, they just get, they just get raked through
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the coals because they haven't dated, they haven't slept with enough women to know the
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difference.
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So, let's see.
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