Pearl - November 11, 2025


Ben Shapiro Is More Triggered Than Modern Women


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Length

9 minutes

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158.45961

Word count

1,565

Sentence count

104

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Misogyny

5

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Toxicity

22

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Hate speech

3

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In this episode, I talk about Ben Shapiro and his anti-free speech rant against Nick Fuentes and why he should be allowed to debate his ideas. I also talk about why we should be pushing back against the elitist mindset that says people are too dumb to debate ideas that make sense and don t make sense.

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00:00:00.000 So, I told this story before how I lost a ton of money, friends, connections, because I interviewed Nick F. two years ago.
00:00:11.580 Now, I must have missed the ball because I think I was two years early on when it was, like, socially acceptable to interview Nick.
00:00:20.200 Now, when I interviewed him, I did not have him on to talk about foreign policy.
00:00:25.660 I didn't have him on to talk about the J stuff.
00:00:27.720 It came up in our interview, but I had him on to talk about dating and relationships.
00:00:31.760 I thought he was funny.
00:00:32.660 I thought he'd be a good guest.
00:00:34.940 Now, the crazy thing is, Nick, not Nick, Ben Shapiro specializes in foreign policy.
00:00:42.240 I mean, he's been covering foreign policy for his, like, entire career.
00:00:47.160 And I just watched Ben Shapiro go on a podcast for Trigonometry, who are also anti-free speech.
00:00:53.800 Trigonometry had me on to, they told me it was a general interview, and they ambushed me to pester me and talk to me for, like, half the interview about Nick Fuentes and why I had him on.
00:01:07.300 These so-called free speech absolutists.
00:01:10.180 And it's so annoying because we've been giving these people our support and our money for years, and they're happily taking it.
00:01:18.000 They all live like kings.
00:01:19.080 And now Ben Shapiro has the audacity to come at me and other YouTubers like myself, obviously not me, but Tucker Carlson and other people that interview and wag his finger from his, like, silver tower where he lives in a gated community and say,
00:01:39.200 you guys aren't interviewing the right way, but I'm not going to do it myself.
00:01:41.980 And I was listening to Ben Shapiro on Trigonometry, and his arguments are saying, oh, we can't, we can't platform these type of people.
00:01:51.560 I shouldn't have to respond to this kind of thing.
00:01:54.180 And I'm like, Ben, again, what have we been giving you our money for?
00:01:58.980 It, you know, Nick F has a very big audience.
00:02:03.580 Now, Ben Shapiro on this Trigonometry podcast is trying to pretend he doesn't, but every guy that I know that's a white male under the age of 25,
00:02:13.240 most of them have at least heard of Nick F, and even the young women know who he is.
00:02:18.980 So Ben Shapiro keeps trying to come back and say, oh, he's not that big, he's not that big, as he gets bigger every year.
00:02:25.400 And so, you know, Ben Shapiro, if you disagree with Nick's ideology, I'm not, I don't have an opinion either way on the foreign policy stuff.
00:02:35.660 But as somebody that's watched the Daily Wire for a long time, I've paid for, like, the Daily Wire Plus,
00:02:41.640 I just want to know, like, what are we giving you our money for? 0.93
00:02:44.560 You're not, like, you're insinuating that people are too dumb to be able to sift through ideas that make sense and don't make sense. 1.00
00:02:58.200 Women are probably too dumb, that's true. 1.00
00:03:01.520 But men, in my opinion, have a gift from God, especially white men, have a gift from God to be able to reason and to be able to logic. 1.00
00:03:10.680 I mean, there's a reason they invented 90% of the world's stuff.
00:03:13.560 And a lot of conservative media is white conservative men.
00:03:17.660 They can hear a debate between Ben Shapiro and Nick Fuentes and decide for themselves what makes sense and what doesn't make sense.
00:03:26.680 You know, I have close relatives that have completely different ideas on foreign policy.
00:03:33.260 But if Nick F, if, I'm sorry, if Ben Shapiro's clap back is that Nick F has too dangerous of ideas or, you know, 0.98
00:03:42.620 we can't platform him, Ben, make him look dumb. 1.00
00:03:46.160 This isn't a college, if Nick F's ideas are as wrong as you say they are, then make him look stupid. 1.00
00:03:54.060 That's your job. 0.99
00:03:55.040 And I really think as viewers, we need to push back on Ben and say, look, we have been paying you to do a job.
00:04:03.580 It is your job to debate this stuff, just like it's my job as an interviewer to have people on and get to the bottom of things.
00:04:10.660 It is your job to debate on the issues.
00:04:14.140 So why are you afraid of this 26-year-old, 27-year-old talk show host?
00:04:22.960 I mean, there's people that have had like the Taliban on and interviewed them and you didn't have any pushback to that.
00:04:31.880 There's people that have had, you know, geopolitical leaders that have literally committed genocide. 0.95
00:04:36.500 There was no right wing, you know, and I just, it's sad to like see this elitist mindset where they think you're too dumb to hear all of the ideas.
00:04:49.860 Because they think that they have the right to dictate who you can and can't listen to.
00:04:58.120 And they, you know, they want to sit in their ivory tower and preach to you about who you should listen to. 0.99
00:05:11.480 And I just think it's bullshit. 1.00
00:05:12.940 It's, it's such bullshit because we've all supported Ben for years. 1.00
00:05:16.800 Um, to just see him run from a debate with a 20-something-year-old when you've been on college. 0.99
00:05:21.820 You were, I mean, you're on college campuses debating anybody for years.
00:05:26.860 But the 26-year-old guy, you can't do a debate.
00:05:31.540 And I think it hits even further close to home for me because I had him on and I lost all this money. 0.86
00:05:37.760 And it wasn't even my issue, but I had the balls to bring him on.
00:05:41.380 And when I brought him on, all these people, you know, in conservative media from behind the scenes that pretend they're pro-free speech, so many of them said I shouldn't have had him on.
00:05:52.600 When it's like, uh, I thought, I thought we all stood for freedom of ideas and debate.
00:05:58.600 This isn't like a terrorist organization.
00:06:00.960 This is a debate.
00:06:02.000 And if you're on the, if you have the facts on your side, I don't understand why you guys just don't debate it.
00:06:08.640 Um, and I, and by the way, I'm not pro-Israel or pro-Palestine.
00:06:13.120 I, I have no gall in this fight.
00:06:15.260 It's about the principle.
00:06:16.560 The principle that, you know, I was listening to Ben on trigonometry.
00:06:21.120 And these people, these grown men, sound like my mother.
00:06:24.360 Like, they sound like your nagging mother, who's just nagging and nagging you about, oh, no, you can't have him on because this.
00:06:34.820 Oh, he's, and then they, they insult you.
00:06:36.900 They, they call you names.
00:06:38.380 Um, they criticize the way you do interviews.
00:06:41.400 And it's like, Ben, if you think you can do an interview better than Tucker, then you do it.
00:06:45.860 Interview him. 1.00
00:06:47.680 And if you're too afraid to do it, then you don't have the right to criticize shit. 1.00
00:06:51.860 You don't. 0.98
00:07:01.080 So, if Ben Shapiro is really about freedom of speech, he will debate Nick Fuentes and stop running on all of these podcasts, trying to rationalize why he's not going to do it. 0.98
00:07:13.540 Either debate him or admit you're a coward.
00:07:15.700 I heard, I saw another clip of Ben Shapiro and he said, you know, because Nick F, the reason I had him on was he's anti-race mixing. 0.98
00:07:30.080 He doesn't like it when the, you know, I hate that word, but he doesn't like interracial dating.
00:07:34.760 And I was in an interracial relationship and I'm not triggered and I'm a woman.
00:07:40.720 We get triggered over damn near everything.
00:07:42.760 So, if Ben Shapiro is offended because Nick F makes fun of J.D. Vance's wife, again, you guys aren't strong enough for the internet.
00:07:53.280 Tucker Carlson said, oh no, Nick F, Nick F called, he called Candace Owens a bit.
00:07:59.400 Why are you guys on the internet?
00:08:00.940 You guys sound like women. 0.99
00:08:02.040 And it's like all of these men that have like the spirit of women in them.
00:08:07.640 Because it's women that get offended by crude jokes. 1.00
00:08:11.800 It's women that get offended by being made fun of. 1.00
00:08:17.100 And I think that's the original criticism of the conservative media in general.
00:08:21.400 I think that's why Andrew Tate has such a following.
00:08:23.480 Because, you know, people are tired of just seeing these wimps on TV when your whole job is to debate and you can't take words.
00:08:32.120 Really?
00:08:33.460 That's your job.
00:08:34.200 Like, you know what I mean?
00:08:35.100 Like, there's men that build society and their job, you know, is to have their back ruined.
00:08:44.020 Their job, you know, part of their job is to really like, you know, they physically lose their bodies.
00:08:52.040 And you guys can't hear words you don't like.
00:08:57.340 I mean, you sound like the women that I interview.
00:09:00.620 You truly do.
00:09:03.660 Okay, Nick has a different view on the war and history than you.
00:09:08.680 Cry me a rib. 1.00
00:09:10.040 It's like, okay, then make him look dumb. 0.99
00:09:14.600 Anyways, so that's my rant. 0.98
00:09:16.660 I don't know if I made any sense.
00:09:17.920 Maybe I'm rambling.
00:09:18.560 But I just, I lost millions of dollars having that guy on.
00:09:24.320 I lost millions of dollars.
00:09:26.840 And that's not even my issue.
00:09:28.920 So, Ben, do the debate.
00:09:31.340 We are tired of paying you money for you to be rich.
00:09:35.820 You're not affected by any of the issues we talk about because you're rich and you live in gated communities.
00:09:40.840 You're not out here.
00:09:41.760 So, debate them.
00:09:48.040 Debate them.
00:09:48.800 Anyways, guys, like the video, subscribe to the channel, and I'll see you next time.