00:00:34.940Now, the crazy thing is, Nick, not Nick, Ben Shapiro specializes in foreign policy.
00:00:42.240I mean, he's been covering foreign policy for his, like, entire career.
00:00:47.160And I just watched Ben Shapiro go on a podcast for Trigonometry, who are also anti-free speech.
00:00:53.800Trigonometry had me on to, they told me it was a general interview, and they ambushed me to pester me and talk to me for, like, half the interview about Nick Fuentes and why I had him on.
00:01:19.080And now Ben Shapiro has the audacity to come at me and other YouTubers like myself, obviously not me, but Tucker Carlson and other people that interview and wag his finger from his, like, silver tower where he lives in a gated community and say,
00:01:39.200you guys aren't interviewing the right way, but I'm not going to do it myself.
00:01:41.980And I was listening to Ben Shapiro on Trigonometry, and his arguments are saying, oh, we can't, we can't platform these type of people.
00:01:51.560I shouldn't have to respond to this kind of thing.
00:01:54.180And I'm like, Ben, again, what have we been giving you our money for?
00:01:58.980It, you know, Nick F has a very big audience.
00:02:03.580Now, Ben Shapiro on this Trigonometry podcast is trying to pretend he doesn't, but every guy that I know that's a white male under the age of 25,
00:02:13.240most of them have at least heard of Nick F, and even the young women know who he is.
00:02:18.980So Ben Shapiro keeps trying to come back and say, oh, he's not that big, he's not that big, as he gets bigger every year.
00:02:25.400And so, you know, Ben Shapiro, if you disagree with Nick's ideology, I'm not, I don't have an opinion either way on the foreign policy stuff.
00:02:35.660But as somebody that's watched the Daily Wire for a long time, I've paid for, like, the Daily Wire Plus,
00:02:41.640I just want to know, like, what are we giving you our money for?
00:02:44.560You're not, like, you're insinuating that people are too dumb to be able to sift through ideas that make sense and don't make sense.
00:02:58.200Women are probably too dumb, that's true.
00:03:01.520But men, in my opinion, have a gift from God, especially white men, have a gift from God to be able to reason and to be able to logic.
00:03:10.680I mean, there's a reason they invented 90% of the world's stuff.
00:03:13.560And a lot of conservative media is white conservative men.
00:03:17.660They can hear a debate between Ben Shapiro and Nick Fuentes and decide for themselves what makes sense and what doesn't make sense.
00:03:26.680You know, I have close relatives that have completely different ideas on foreign policy.
00:03:33.260But if Nick F, if, I'm sorry, if Ben Shapiro's clap back is that Nick F has too dangerous of ideas or, you know,
00:03:42.620we can't platform him, Ben, make him look dumb.
00:03:46.160This isn't a college, if Nick F's ideas are as wrong as you say they are, then make him look stupid.
00:03:55.040And I really think as viewers, we need to push back on Ben and say, look, we have been paying you to do a job.
00:04:03.580It is your job to debate this stuff, just like it's my job as an interviewer to have people on and get to the bottom of things.
00:04:10.660It is your job to debate on the issues.
00:04:14.140So why are you afraid of this 26-year-old, 27-year-old talk show host?
00:04:22.960I mean, there's people that have had like the Taliban on and interviewed them and you didn't have any pushback to that.
00:04:31.880There's people that have had, you know, geopolitical leaders that have literally committed genocide.
00:04:36.500There was no right wing, you know, and I just, it's sad to like see this elitist mindset where they think you're too dumb to hear all of the ideas.
00:04:49.860Because they think that they have the right to dictate who you can and can't listen to.
00:04:58.120And they, you know, they want to sit in their ivory tower and preach to you about who you should listen to.
00:05:12.940It's, it's such bullshit because we've all supported Ben for years.
00:05:16.800Um, to just see him run from a debate with a 20-something-year-old when you've been on college.
00:05:21.820You were, I mean, you're on college campuses debating anybody for years.
00:05:26.860But the 26-year-old guy, you can't do a debate.
00:05:31.540And I think it hits even further close to home for me because I had him on and I lost all this money.
00:05:37.760And it wasn't even my issue, but I had the balls to bring him on.
00:05:41.380And when I brought him on, all these people, you know, in conservative media from behind the scenes that pretend they're pro-free speech, so many of them said I shouldn't have had him on.
00:05:52.600When it's like, uh, I thought, I thought we all stood for freedom of ideas and debate.
00:05:58.600This isn't like a terrorist organization.
00:07:01.080So, if Ben Shapiro is really about freedom of speech, he will debate Nick Fuentes and stop running on all of these podcasts, trying to rationalize why he's not going to do it.
00:07:13.540Either debate him or admit you're a coward.
00:07:15.700I heard, I saw another clip of Ben Shapiro and he said, you know, because Nick F, the reason I had him on was he's anti-race mixing.
00:07:30.080He doesn't like it when the, you know, I hate that word, but he doesn't like interracial dating.
00:07:34.760And I was in an interracial relationship and I'm not triggered and I'm a woman.
00:07:40.720We get triggered over damn near everything.
00:07:42.760So, if Ben Shapiro is offended because Nick F makes fun of J.D. Vance's wife, again, you guys aren't strong enough for the internet.
00:07:53.280Tucker Carlson said, oh no, Nick F, Nick F called, he called Candace Owens a bit.