Pearl - November 24, 2025


BLACK FATIGUE SHOW THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR


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3 hours and 11 minutes

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180.74313

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34,527

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486


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00:00:00.880 what is up guys welcome to another episode of pearl daily here on the audacity network i
00:00:07.840 really appreciate you guys tuning in i was so excited to see you guys that i literally came
00:00:13.360 here early i started my show early because i was just so excited to say hello um so today
00:00:22.400 we are doing the topic of black fatigue um and for those of you that don't know i i do think
00:00:28.640 it's important to kind of um give you guys a background on the situation of how we came to
00:00:35.120 this topic so i really do try to when i'm doing this show do shows and topics that are kind of
00:00:41.200 topical like i got to pick stuff that's in the news and you know you know how it is you got to
00:00:46.960 talk about what you think about those different topics and last week i think it was exactly a
00:00:55.200 week ago now i blew up the manosphere of youtube black manosphere whatever it was because i was
00:01:04.320 invited onto a panel to uh discuss black fatigue and the panel crashed out on me
00:01:12.720 and the conversation i'm really gonna have now it's really out of love if i would say
00:01:19.360 i because you know i really do like black people black people are pretty cool
00:01:26.080 you guys are funny you're chill to hang out with um but the problem is at times
00:01:35.680 you guys just behave like women you really do um
00:01:43.120 and i just i think if we're gonna work together you guys gotta work on that
00:01:46.800 um i mean yeah to some extent i am a grifter i am um yeah i mean because people say that as an insult
00:02:01.600 and maybe you know i won't say anything for money because obviously i was demonetized for
00:02:06.480 two years so i could have avoided that had i said anything for money like very you know it's like
00:02:11.840 you guys have been here um but i do want to get paid like yeah i want to make money
00:02:18.960 i want to make money on the internet so if you know if that's wrong you can call me wrong
00:02:24.720 you know but i do mean the things i say um sometimes i say things for comedic effect
00:02:31.120 something you know obviously some things are tongue-in-cheek i really try to aim for a smart
00:02:36.560 intelligent thoughtful audience that can kind of keep with the jokes um but i'd like to make
00:02:42.960 something clear i don't do anything for shock value a lot of people say pearl but pearl
00:02:48.880 you just are a shock jock and i really didn't understand what that meant
00:02:53.680 um you're like you just are saying things to be shocking um and i'm gonna i'm gonna roll
00:03:01.360 back the clip you know we're gonna react to the to the the panel from last week
00:03:06.560 and you guys can tell me if this is shocking or is it true because i i do think once you get to
00:03:14.700 be an adult um you no longer should be offended by words unless someone's personally attacking you
00:03:21.640 now what is a personal attack i'm going to say the definition a personal attack is a type of
00:03:31.140 criticism directed at a person's character appearance or other personal attributes instead
00:03:35.480 their ideas and arguments um so as an adult as long as you're not being personally attacked i
00:03:42.040 really do think that the standard has got to be sticks and stones may break my bones but words
00:03:47.160 will never hurt me i heard this when i was you know like 12 and that's how i'm able to really
00:03:53.560 keep myself cool you know so i went on this panel to discuss what i thought was black fatigue now
00:04:05.000 there was some discourse um ilcon is is the guy's name he the guy who hosted the panel said
00:04:12.920 oh i didn't say it was black fatigue and then i'm like yes you did and he's like no i didn't
00:04:18.760 and i really and you know the argument was pearl that wasn't the topic you can't say that
00:04:26.280 and i really don't like that argument because i really try to keep it real no matter who i'm
00:04:30.520 talking to you know i thought black that's what i love about black people is black people really do
00:04:35.960 i mean they're kind of emotional at times but they keep it real
00:04:40.680 do you know what i mean they just we're all about so why am i going to change the way i talk
00:04:50.280 what you know what what why do i got to change the way my talk i talk because i'm talking to
00:04:55.560 black people wouldn't that be i think that would be more racist it's like they're like
00:05:00.200 they they don't want racism now they want more racism it's like i just can't win i can't win
00:05:05.160 with these people so i originally left this panel because i just didn't think it was very well done
00:05:11.320 um it was nothing this guy big rick dub ruler you know um he was just talking a lot and i just kind
00:05:17.800 of got bored now again ilcon and we got to talk about this tends to go at things in bad faith so
00:05:24.600 he accused me of like being offended by him and that's what they keep saying they you know because
00:05:30.120 black people do this thing they always accuse white people of what they're doing so they're
00:05:34.600 really easily offended and so what they'll do is they'll say um pearl you're offended and i'm like
00:05:41.160 no and you guys can tell me lena watching this clip do i look like i'm offended here
00:05:49.400 he's fool i order 30 anyways see i see i'm smiling i'm happy you know not offended i was just bored
00:05:56.760 when i left so i try to give them some criticism to their to their detriment they take it sorry to
00:06:01.880 their um to their um credit i will say they did take the criticism they had them talk less um
00:06:13.000 and i really want to show if there's like two black people watching
00:06:19.960 i want to show why at times white people just stop working with you guys
00:06:23.880 if you want to say i want to show how you guys actually cause racism like it's actually you
00:06:30.060 it's not us look at me not seeing color just going there with a smile hey so because i'm not
00:06:36.900 experiencing it that means that it's not real this is just numbers that rick is putting out there
00:06:41.400 somebody's going to call me out somebody's going to say fatty your reality just because your name
00:06:45.980 is fatty and you seem like you are overeating or you have a full fridge that's the point is
00:06:51.220 okay we're gonna this was the worst panelist i've seen in my life
00:06:55.460 i actually think the whim the woman brought more value than fatty isn't that crazy
00:07:01.060 isn't that kind of crazy the woman i would say because at least you know she was going
00:07:08.420 back and forth so all right let's see happening then the actual brothers who were saying it
00:07:13.280 man that woman does me these that woman does me that and i go
00:07:16.780 go tell other people oh sorry i left there that was the first time i left i think i came back
00:07:24.360 here yeah there we go
00:07:28.700 when you're at home and you're a single man are you not cleaning in in those situations what
00:07:37.600 on another person most women as soon as you don't get your way in control of him
00:07:42.520 And you don't see that.
00:07:44.820 What you do see is a lot of me in O'Hill.
00:07:46.480 You see me bored?
00:07:47.820 Like, do I look angry?
00:07:48.800 I look bored.
00:07:49.640 I'm like, oh, God.
00:07:50.620 I come in with a smile, and now I'm bored.
00:07:53.040 I'm like, I can't be on a boring panel.
00:07:55.100 My time's too valuable.
00:07:56.440 And I was thinking, I'm like, I could spend three hours on this boring panel,
00:08:00.140 or I could do reactions.
00:08:02.480 Because I filmed 120 reactions last week for the whole month.
00:08:08.180 So now I'm kind of done with – that's what I was thinking.
00:08:11.520 and you gotta i'm like is this worth my time all right where where do we go back and forth then
00:08:18.620 they call me they're like come back oh there and then i bring my she belongs to the street sweatshirt
00:08:24.380 better watch out kazim comes back with a 20 dollar ball thank you very much kazim i was just kind of
00:08:33.560 bored like that's kind of just how i felt i was bored somebody asked her okay so drawn to chaos
00:08:40.800 over comfort i just thought the question i'm bored i'm still bored and then finally i'm like
00:08:49.120 something interesting like do you see do you see my face light up now does this look like the face
00:08:55.360 of somebody who's a racist look at me i'm having a great time look at i'm having a good time uh
00:09:03.520 usually not okay wait all right there men who seem i'm looking down i'm like i'm bored
00:09:10.720 competent through their confidence and risk-taking because if you look at it biologically speaking
00:09:17.120 risk-taking did lead to um positive outcomes as long as it was responsible uh but you know
00:09:24.720 what i don't really make my thumbnails i'm being honest i don't know i don't i don't make my
00:09:31.760 thumbnails so i just said to put some people on the like from a panel or something so look it
00:09:41.280 although angry man um you know go ask the chat tell him i said 75 bucks to change streams
00:09:51.920 75 bucks at 8 15 to come on how much what's his price he's got a price let's buy him
00:09:58.000 I'm a landlord to blacks in DC. I have real black fatigue content. Yeah. You know,
00:10:04.540 and I've talked about this before. I really don't have hatred for black people. I really don't.
00:10:11.000 But I have a lot of pent up frustration because they say, who hurts you? I'm like black people.
00:10:15.360 They hurt my feelings a lot. You know, I offered them friendship. I offered them jobs and not all
00:10:23.240 of them turn turn their backs on me but god enough enough did that you know a bitch has got feelings
00:10:31.480 a bitch has got do you know what i mean oh you want to know how that happened well
00:10:36.940 a bit you know a bit like who hurts you black people you know what i mean
00:10:43.480 so what happened was i went to england and i started a youtube show and i lived in a pretty
00:10:50.400 black area and i did a show that was like i had 100 black staff like half 50 black people
00:10:56.480 and um this wasn't like intentional it just kind of happened and then a bunch of them called me a
00:11:01.680 colonizer and i'm like oh you want me to be a colonizer i'll be you know it's just like
00:11:08.800 it's like um you you keep calling you guys have created a demon and you want to you want to you
00:11:15.040 want to say pearl your your tune has changed you guys have created me i will never i will never
00:11:23.120 forget i will never never forget that canon event when i'm doing my happy stream and i look down and
00:11:30.400 i see one of my friends made a hit piece on me two of them two people i considered to be friends
00:11:38.000 one had stayed in my parents house they made um they made videos insinuate
00:11:45.120 insulting me making fun of me and insinuating i was a colonizer
00:11:50.560 and that really hurt that really hurt my feelings
00:11:54.480 so congratulations um to the two youtubers you guys know who you are
00:12:02.720 you guys know who you are
00:12:08.480 you've created a demon you've created a monster and i'm way worse now because
00:12:14.880 i got demonetized for two years and now i'm back and i don't give a
00:12:18.720 fuck a lot of women are congratulations i'm like the joker baby
00:12:28.880 pearl how many chocolates have you been with well i like um i like nestle i think um
00:12:35.520 um i like i like white chocolate i like um i like cocoa powder where you make it like fresh
00:12:44.480 thank you for the question we can go through i do have a sweet tooth i know
00:12:48.720 so i'm on this panel and tracked it to that even if it's not in a positive way it's not
00:12:55.040 positive risk taking it's negative risk taking rick was not inside a little bit uh what do you
00:13:01.120 think why do you think the statement is wrong because that women are not yes i'm too anxious
00:13:05.200 most men don't leave with no payouts when you're going to be the woman you only show that you got
00:13:07.680 some security short cut all right now i'm like finally i can go i can rest with this fake ass
00:13:13.440 persona that they are the man that's of her dream and you you nothing like the that you
00:13:18.320 had before you so i don't think women are thinking about the time she realized that
00:13:23.520 you pull the ship and you ain't the that you live with right it's men move out there because
00:13:28.720 in my head it comes future nick cannon uh cam newton and by the way um
00:13:37.120 you know what made this show even more ironic the the topic we had to do with ti
00:13:43.680 and he literally is a felon or he's a criminal record
00:13:50.880 like usually the guy that has already a track record and women still flock to them this is a
00:13:57.120 very visible I don't think this is like women know but we hate that we love them like I love
00:14:03.720 him so much I hate it I hate you know we hate that we love the criminals the players the rappers in
00:14:10.720 this case the entertainer the really unstable men we just love and you could see this because when
00:14:14.860 when women are young and hot that's when we that's who we pick when we're old ugly and used up I mean
00:14:20.660 that's when we go for the stable guys and we do a very good job convincing them we love them so
00:14:29.000 now look at look at the difference very angry very happy angry happy angry happy i don't know
00:14:35.460 if any girl comes in and is like i love the stable guys it's like at 20 did you did you uh usually
00:14:41.420 not so um and we can't help to some degree we cannot help that we are attracted to men that
00:14:48.300 show um signs of dominance um i think a lot of us would we wish we could turn it off but we can't
00:14:54.440 it's just what we're attracted to we're biologically hardwired to do that um unfortunately so
00:15:00.700 did you say we're biologically hardware to uh want chaotic criminal dominant yeah dominant
00:15:11.800 because you know you got to think of like ted bundy you know he had he had women yeah yeah he
00:15:16.780 women writing him love letters i didn't make him he impregnated a woman he impregnated a woman
00:15:22.300 while he was in prison for murdering women this is a real luigi manny mangi i don't think that's
00:15:28.460 a woman thing i think that's a a a thing that certain women do well you you are there's no
00:15:36.460 there's no let her let her land and you respond you're going to get the mic not every woman does
00:15:41.980 that there's different levels of dominance um however we are still attracted to dominant men
00:15:48.220 and that does come in the form of if a man can kill someone else uh we know he could protect us
00:15:55.020 biologically so that just is what it is so you find you you equate dominance with you find a man
00:16:02.700 that can dominate and harm a woman attractive that's one way that men describe it or that's
00:16:10.140 one way that men do it and women do select those men so i try not to apply morality morality to
00:16:16.940 this good or bad it doesn't matter because women do pick criminals criminals are more men that have
00:16:22.140 committed a violent crime are actually more likely they are more they are more likely to reproduce
00:16:28.460 than men that have it so i didn't make this world you know i didn't make women write love letters
00:16:34.220 has that been your experience like are you attracted to criminals to be fair i i don't
00:16:40.300 know many criminals so that hasn't been my experience personally i mean i've interviewed
00:16:47.020 a thousand people a good chunk of them did you know procreate i will say thank you for
00:16:53.020 the super chat hail pearl keep dropping these red pills thank you thank you i will stop the show to
00:16:59.820 do super chats because i'm grifting i'm grifting baby grifter's got a grip
00:17:09.980 yeah you know what i mean it's like griff baby grip
00:17:16.380 oh so you guys want to know sorry you guys want to know why i'm covering this still and i actually
00:17:21.180 i'm going to get to that i'm going to play the full clip i'm going to play the full clip and
00:17:25.500 i'm going to let you guys go and then i'm going to get to it and date men with felonies that's not
00:17:30.860 uncommon so especially especially in the black community if we're going to be honest that's
00:17:40.060 i don't know why you're pretending to not know what i'm talking about you can't gaslight these
00:17:44.780 tips but you can't gaslight me i don't know what you're talking about i don't think you know
00:17:48.780 anything about the black community but i will say about the white community it's a lot of white
00:17:53.820 women that find you know men who kill other women attractive grifter lol hey pearl thank you
00:18:04.780 those are the women that were but i won't gas on you about it i won't gas on you i would say that's
00:18:09.580 true that's true there are white women that do that i can't hear you hold on hold on hold on
00:18:15.180 real quick hey hold on i'm gonna say it again hold on real quick i don't even know why she even
00:18:20.780 brought up the black community you can't say that until she lands like you like i want you to
00:18:27.340 right now we got strong person uh personalities on the panel please let the person finish and
00:18:32.300 then respond you can't say the person interrupted you and why are you talking over me while i'm
00:18:36.220 talking if you already interrupted the person let her finish you the first person that uh
00:18:40.940 respond they can respond to her jazz you're the first person just let her land i did let her land
00:18:45.820 no you didn't let it land yes okay it's fine let's start now
00:18:52.060 okay well you asked me why i brought it up um the black community because you're black so you you
00:18:57.100 would know because like i don't you brought up the same reason you brought up the white community
00:19:04.860 because i'm white you know if you're done first of all that's very disrespectful gaslighting
00:19:13.340 they're being disrespectful they're calling me disrespectful and because i am grifting right now
00:19:18.680 let's see the grift olympics high history high bristophilia is a psychological term for the love
00:19:25.800 of bad boys pearl's such a disappointment i'll keep disappointing i'll keep disappointing all
00:19:35.120 All right, friends, we don't need that leaves.
00:19:41.700 Jess can and delete letter and delete.
00:19:44.360 Go ahead, go ahead.
00:19:45.360 So like I said, we were talking about next.
00:19:48.680 Go ahead, Jess, for let Jess finish, please.
00:19:50.900 Let's go ahead, Jess.
00:19:51.680 I will.
00:19:52.200 Yeah, go ahead.
00:19:55.340 Jess, like I said, we were speaking
00:19:57.440 about relationships in general.
00:20:00.740 Nobody said anything about black or white
00:20:02.780 until you brought it up.
00:20:04.260 And for what reason, I don't know.
00:20:06.660 It didn't add anything to the conversation.
00:20:10.320 First of all, I was speaking on, you're speaking on the nature of women
00:20:14.380 and how we are all naturally attracted.
00:20:17.540 I don't mean to keep clipping it, but I will for, or stopping, but I will for $2.
00:20:22.060 Shaniquas have pukyophilia, please.
00:20:25.540 All right.
00:20:29.860 Men who are criminals, and then you may appoint a...
00:20:33.420 particular yeah excuse me no that is not the case at all for black women now if you're talking about
00:20:38.780 people that are in poverty people that live in certain situations and are
00:20:56.460 my dad just make some make some notes for a letter
00:20:59.820 it's just weird that you would even have to bring up a um a race of people to even have the
00:21:10.860 conversation which lets me know that you don't really have information on the conversation
00:21:15.580 you're just spewing points to try to get a rise out of people because that's all you know as it
00:21:20.700 pertains to why women choose the women they want or the kind of men that they date there are so
00:21:25.900 many different reasons for that you can't equate a person that has a felony to them being a violent
00:21:30.940 criminal that's not always the case you know he's got black fatigue black people the urban landlord
00:21:36.940 i have a clip of a black tenant getting mad that i call them black very sensitive
00:21:40.540 love for you to play it um we can react when i bring the panel up when i bring the panel up we
00:21:47.580 can react because i agree there are some people that marry men and women that have uh felonies
00:21:55.180 in their background that doesn't necessarily mean that they are violent and then to say
00:21:59.660 that black women are the most prone to violent criminals within our community you don't know
00:22:04.460 shit about our community pearl and if we're going to talk about what's happening if we're going to
00:22:08.540 make it about a race thing let's figure out what's going on in these white communities in these white
00:22:13.420 homes when you all are raising all the mass shooters y'all raising kids that are taking guns
00:22:18.220 to shoot at other kids y'all going into public spaces and i'm sure you're going to talk about
00:22:23.100 uh black on black crime or whatever but we can debunk all of that because that's through
00:22:27.260 proximity the point is is that you didn't have to make it about black or white keep it general
00:22:32.460 because it's very disrespectful for you to try to pigeonhole black women when you don't know
00:22:36.860 any of us at all to make that assumption that that's what we are prone to none of
00:22:41.180 these women on this stage myself tyranny or even athena are dating any man that is of a criminal
00:22:49.020 or that are violent so watch what you say up here you got a really smart mouth and if you're going
00:22:53.900 to have a conversation try to be respectful and all this trying to get me to hurry up i'm
00:22:58.060 going to take my time oh my god can we do it right we don't eat it when she lands she lands
00:23:07.820 probably will have all the chance to reply everybody going to be quiet go ahead you're
00:23:12.540 done jess yeah i'm done i just don't i don't understand why that was that was accepted like
00:23:18.460 that that was wait wait one second one second one second okay we shouldn't accept what she said
00:23:26.060 to say that you should know uh you know thank you guys um hello from pompo beach florida
00:23:32.380 they chase game gang bangers the uh racism wah thank you as a black woman because you all
00:23:39.420 date criminals one second so my my this is my opinion jess and correct me if i'm wrong
00:23:45.100 she punched you in the face you have the right to punch her back right is that fair if you felt
00:23:50.780 that she can't punch you in the face i have an opinion about this that i'm going to say later
00:23:55.180 right but we are letting you defend yourself we are not you're going to have two chance to land
00:24:00.860 your plane and pearl is going to have the chance to actually rebuttal what you said do you think
00:24:05.420 that's fair do you like what do you want to do can we go on then i would you want to make sure
00:24:09.420 so everybody knows where we at we we can move on okay go ahead pearl and then we go back to the
00:24:16.060 panel okay so you can tone police the simps and women that respond to shame but you're not going
00:24:21.420 to tone police me so anyways going back to the stats the reason that i said that was two reasons
00:24:27.260 um the first is that i interviewed a thousand people um a good chunk of them were black women
00:24:33.100 and i just noticed that they had a propensity more likely than other races to date criminals
00:24:37.420 it's not really an insult as i could go into details about the types of men white women tend
00:24:42.620 to date that are irresponsible i've just noticed different trends in different communities and
00:24:46.540 it's kind of backed up by data because um 60 of black men have been arrested by the age of 25.
00:24:53.180 so you know it's not to be rude but i think it's more common in that community than it is other
00:24:58.220 communities um in terms of mass shooters i think you said white people are the majority of mass
00:25:04.860 shooters um i would say that's that's true and i wouldn't crash out on you for saying that so
00:25:11.980 again if you want to get offended that is a choice and that is your choice and you've
00:25:15.740 and that's you know i don't know why but black people have a tendency to think
00:25:20.140 that crashing out isn't a choice and that you can't like getting and women tend to think this
00:25:25.980 way too like especially black women they have a tendency to think that crashing out um is something
00:25:35.340 if i say something offensive or that you find offensive that you must crash out white people
00:25:43.260 um we just walk away and i'm gonna go into that later because i'll show you the difference next
00:25:49.340 time ask her if that hair is real um also to the panelists watching if you guys i'm on the chain
00:25:55.420 could just put in that i know a few of you watch it's probably going to be 15 minutes late for when
00:26:03.580 i bring you guys up tay box i love you pearl here's my life savings thank you five dollars
00:26:10.860 and 73 cents you must be black that's your life savings sorry i'm sorry okay um right to do that
00:26:20.460 so so i want to touch on this and then i want uh cj and rick the ruler to pull up and the reverse
00:26:26.300 of the panel okay tyranny i see you too so coming from a world citizen right because i live in
00:26:32.060 portugal right now he's 2 a.m and and and pearl was in the uk for a while too this is not a a
00:26:39.100 black woman thing if you go to japan all those women love the yakuza until they get older if
00:26:44.620 you go to brazil all those women love the kid from the favela before they get older if you come to
00:26:49.900 europe all these women love the the guys that ride on most the l angels like women like danger like
00:26:56.780 they are emotional junkies right and i believe that jess actually pinpoints what it is is when
00:27:04.060 you put together people that are emotional junkies which is most young woman and you put poverty
00:27:13.180 together you are going to get massive results and in my opinion this is why the black community in
00:27:18.780 the united states is hyper exposed to the situations is because you are mixing two components
00:27:23.980 that are very dangerous is the the level of poverty people live on a lower socioeconomic
00:27:30.620 level and they are addicted to bad boys because that's what women do you can go to any white
00:27:39.100 college and see exactly the same type of behavior the chads are getting all the women there's the
00:27:43.420 reality the bad boy the the the football uh uh star like we know this is a this is something
00:27:50.700 you know what like this is why he's the worst panelist because at least jazz was entertaining
00:27:55.500 like she can be the crazy woman like she's being cast as a crazy woman you do need those casts um
00:28:03.100 but fatty is just like boring like it's just not i mean i mean if it was me who would i keep on
00:28:10.940 he's actually not the worst moderator when he's not simping i'd keep on ilcan i would i don't mind
00:28:16.300 big de ruler but you got to moderate him he's kind of entertaining but fatty he would just have to go
00:28:22.060 i would even keep these two crazy ladies because then you can let the crazy ladies beef um yeah i
00:28:28.220 mean yeah you know it's just i think fatty really and that guy's got to get reined in you know what
00:28:35.020 i actually if i had to redo this panel i would have just had the women in ilcon that would
00:28:39.820 probably been the best anyways i'll keep going i'll keep going it is a woman thing it's just
00:28:48.860 more exacerbated depending on the communities the the culture and all that so i actually believe
00:28:54.060 that both of y'all are right on their own way we can't unfortunately just be against something
00:29:02.140 because it triggers our feelings okay friend oh my god no no no no no no no no no no no one second
00:29:09.980 one second i didn't finish one second i didn't finish you know what's funny tyranny no tyranny
00:29:19.020 hey tyranny tyranny i have a i have a black panther in my arm
00:29:23.660 it's not articulate doesn't moderate what like there's just nothing this guy adds to the panel
00:29:36.780 like i just could i can't even put into words how much nothing he adds like not good looking like
00:29:43.480 at least il can i would say he's like a decent looking like cj decent looking guy but it's like
00:29:49.980 so you let me and if you bring in a fat guy you expect him to be funny he's not bringing that like
00:29:55.480 this is just he derails doesn't moderate well crashes out i'm like this is not good the only
00:30:02.720 thing good about fatty is his graphics and sound effects yeah that's yeah that's true um yeah it's
00:30:10.540 just facts fatty right the pro the pro black shit doesn't because nobody unfortunately
00:30:17.580 unfortunately tyranny stop stop like tyranny you can't tell me myself that i depict black woman in
00:30:27.220 any kind of way that is negative because i avoid it but what we have to do is be fair if she was
00:30:33.280 talking about black men it's not wrong most black women like are more attracted to they have a higher
00:30:40.260 propensity to be attracted to those men i don't know why y'all got offended and respect black
00:30:44.880 power that's why that's where this racist shit come from like i told y'all before it's the black
00:30:49.020 woman i want to get it to get us into this space can i finish can i finish can you come later
00:30:53.880 now i'm chilling i'm eating gummy bears in the corner so again they keep saying but pearl you
00:31:01.460 were the one that was offended i'm like do i look offended i mean that girl kind of crashed out on
00:31:06.920 look like look at me in this corner i mean my gummy bears no it's fine it's fine we control
00:31:11.160 it isn't to mute yourself if i meet you go ahead cj so yeah i think they want to get us into a war
00:31:17.640 that we can't win so they can go and be with the white man and that's a different topic but sorry
00:31:25.720 like look at how chill i can't even put into words the level of chill i am
00:31:29.320 tyranny you have a chance to reply and then i'll get the best of the people that haven't talked
00:31:38.360 especially be greek right what did cj said that was wrong it's a battle of ideas one second tyranny
00:31:45.480 remember this is the battle of ideas you have an interrupted time to prove cj that what he said
00:31:51.880 is wrong no name calling for now later we can do it let's prove cj wrong why is he wrong that
00:31:59.160 most black women are attracted to this type of man um pearl no we're not attracted to them their
00:32:05.880 men want us that's why they really hate us because they can't there was another question
00:32:09.800 yeah so again you know i just had to get rid of this delusion you know i mean he's saying
00:32:30.840 he said like she's she's and you know i just gotta be i'm trying to be honest here
00:32:35.800 if black women think you're stealing our guys you know i just have to go to the stats that i can also
00:32:42.360 back up with my real lived experience so it's not just stats um black women are seven percent of
00:32:50.420 the population 40 percent of abortions most white guys kind of lean pro-life we're not really with
00:32:56.300 that you know what i mean like if i talk to 10 white guys some of them might give in and say
00:33:03.260 fine women can have abortions but they're not really like with that 75 of black women are baby
00:33:09.500 mamas um the obesity rate for black women um is like i think the average black woman weighs 180
00:33:18.940 pounds white men prefer skinny i mean i i at times think i'm too big for white guys because white
00:33:29.980 white guys just really like the petite. So, you know, we are losing to different races. We really
00:33:35.420 are. It's just not really the black women, except maybe like the Christian Candace Owens, like type
00:33:43.380 black woman. Like sometimes she, I would say, could she swoops to like swoop into the church or
00:33:50.300 the conservative party. And there's a guy that's got that thing for them. And then boom, they fall
00:33:55.000 in love thank you for the two dollar super chat but i just you know um tyranny is the first non-obese
00:34:01.740 black woman on youtube who is a one you know i just needed to clarify that um yeah i just needed
00:34:10.400 to clarify that every single group of people has bad habits um no i can say that i would say black
00:34:23.380 women have way worse habits than white women i would i would actually say it's not even close
00:34:27.940 it's not even like a little bit close um we do have bad things that we do and we could talk about
00:34:34.840 it but i just um it's it's significantly worse in terms of habits for black women like white
00:34:43.520 women vape like i would say that's pretty common but a man would take a no a vaping habit over an
00:34:50.160 obese woman i'm just being honest i'm just being honest now one second stop stop talking stop
00:34:59.360 talking a pearl let me ask you something pearl are you trying to get the reaction of us no no
00:35:07.360 one second girl i'm asking you a serious question do i look offended
00:35:11.280 i just want to everyone they said i'm offended do i look offended right because we had you on
00:35:16.480 the panel once and andrew wilson was with us right and andrew wilson all of a sudden starting
00:35:22.240 to do pooboo remarks and talking about black brands and all that and i asked him hey brother
00:35:29.680 i see your content all the time you usually don't talk like this so my question is and be honest
00:35:36.720 about it is there any of your statements you're doing today today uh statements that are made to
00:35:42.960 trigger the crowd that you have right now i actually came here prepared because i thought
00:35:47.680 the topic was black fatigue so i came prepared with stats facts data and statistics i i can't
00:35:54.560 but the topic is not like fatigue right a mute button would do wonders for every black panel
00:36:00.480 podcast and forum yeah that's what we spoke about but is the topic black fatigue that's what you
00:36:07.680 told me the topic was no no no now they're about to gaslight okay so i need to now they're gonna
00:36:14.640 they're gonna start white knighting i'm trying to paraphrase just because um here then he starts
00:36:19.600 crashing out he starts in race put the the table to you and you can do whatever you want but if we
00:36:25.200 are going to try to either get clippable moments or something like that we know more about you than
00:36:30.400 you know about us so if you want to go there we can go there i take my gloves off and we can do
00:36:35.120 whatever you want and if nobody can be offended because of black this and black that you are
00:36:39.920 going to talk about the time where you were a black homeless man uh a fat that you
00:36:46.720 were having in your house right okay so now he starts crashing out on me right
00:36:50.640 and i want to show you um because black people have a tendency to think that white people um
00:36:57.440 have to argue with you but you know white people are similar to men when women start
00:37:03.760 bitching and arguing with you you just walk away and you don't do it because you're offended you
00:37:09.360 don't do it because you're even angry you do it because you're just not very pleasant to talk to
00:37:16.480 and if i'm having an unpleasant experience i'm not going to sit here and shame you and guilt you
00:37:21.360 i'm just going to go home i'm just going to leave and that's what i did fatty you're fat too it's
00:37:26.640 like absolutely you have no tds and no s you are mad at me because i have more tds than you
00:37:31.760 that's why you're mad right we could go back that's why you're mad right because i have more
00:37:35.440 titties than you again here's the thing yet i thought you know white people we're just not
00:37:40.800 really built like that we're not really gonna we're not we don't really want to go back and
00:37:46.080 forth and personally insult you we were adults so that we could talk about you know i'm still
00:37:50.400 smiling i'm really not offended but you know some things you just don't want to opt
00:37:57.440 you're like all right this isn't a productive conversation is it we are we are definitely
00:38:01.440 adults let me ask you something what do you what do you think about black fatigue all right so
00:38:06.240 i do appreciate you guys having me on i really do can you say what you think about black fatigue
00:38:11.040 before you go i really did want to do this um but apparently we can't do the facts data and
00:38:16.320 statistics thank you guys so much for having me on if you want to do that my channel if we came
00:38:23.600 on your show and started talking about white men and white women you had a problem that's so
00:38:27.280 so disingenuous yeah so then they start to gaslight and act like women so i'm gonna keep
00:38:33.800 going further on this uh little thing he then calls into my show because again white people
00:38:40.640 and i just want you guys to understand when you guys crash out on us we just walk away
00:38:45.360 and then do our own thing and we just do our own panel so if you're just not pleasant we
00:38:54.660 just walk away who'll buy the fatty you got to get out of this chat i really am only letting
00:38:59.900 entertaining be people be here so i'm gonna ban you because i just i need the bar to be a little
00:39:05.420 bit higher i just need you to be better you know what i mean i just need better from you
00:39:09.540 black men i won't say black women i know black women try to tell you apart i cannot deny that
00:39:14.380 at all because of information you do share but white women try to tell you apart women in general
00:39:19.160 try to tell you apart and so then he comes and starts nagging me and like i just don't know if
00:39:24.200 guys understand how unpleasant this is and black people i know they can be pleasant they're like
00:39:28.280 when i do street interviews they give me the funest dancers
00:39:32.680 ah no it's a woman thing too it's not just black people i don't know the behavior patterns are
00:39:37.960 really similar great show pro so like and you got to think of the audacity of this because white
00:39:44.840 people we understand our place in like a hierarchy i mean imagine having um a fat like 5 000 youtube
00:39:52.440 subscribers and lecturing a woman with a billion views i had a billion before i cleared my channel
00:39:58.280 i had a billion views you're gonna tell me how to do my job you know it's like the audacity
00:40:04.280 you know what i mean like do you know who i am you've been somebody a lot of people have been
00:40:09.880 supportive before you even came on a panel when you came on anton daniel's panel maybe two three
00:40:13.960 years ago black black women would say oh pearly racist pearly racist men came out to your defense
00:40:19.240 big time i wanted a man that came out to your defense i say hey gonna nag like a woman i get
00:40:25.000 the topic and did i tell you our messages yes you did did i tell you we're not now he's gonna gas
00:40:30.540 light me he's gonna say oh wait oh it wasn't the topic in your face and say this then he's gonna
00:40:35.180 accuse me of of and it's like they always go in with such bad faith like white people our default
00:40:41.200 is good faith and it gets taken advantage of all the time our default is oh the topic but
00:40:46.960 oh if that if he was a white guy the white guy would have said oh
00:40:50.740 maybe i did tell you the topic was black fatigue i'm sorry
00:40:55.100 that's how it would have ended
00:40:59.160 did say that i could give you when we're talking about black crime i could give you real life
00:41:06.040 examples i could give you examples in the media and i could give you facts data and statistics
00:41:09.680 if you don't have all three i understand having yeah so an echo chamber which pearl asked i'm
00:41:16.940 gonna have panelists show up soon um w pearl wish you could do a fresh and fish shout out myron
00:41:26.220 oh my god those girls are too ghetto for me uh echo chamber we hate echo chambers too
00:41:32.780 why would you kick off the person who's going against what you're saying so we have an actual
00:41:36.860 conversation because you can't have you can't have a conversation when someone's monologuing
00:41:41.260 for 10 minutes you can't you can't do it away and yeah and so no i didn't even think this guy was
00:41:46.620 disrespectful but i'm like we're never gonna get to the point he doesn't land planes and now he's
00:41:50.620 gonna and this is the thing it's like always bad faith always always always bad faith like um
00:42:01.980 a white guy again would say oh oh that's why you you kicked him it wasn't because you were offended
00:42:09.180 Oh, I'm sorry.
00:42:10.460 That's how we would do it.
00:42:15.520 A white person would say, I don't mean to over talk you.
00:42:18.380 Oh, I'm sorry.
00:42:19.120 A white man.
00:42:20.700 Definitely not a white woman.
00:42:22.300 Sorry, I should clarify.
00:42:23.820 A white man would do that.
00:42:25.120 A white woman.
00:42:26.260 Oh my God, I had to mute a white woman last week.
00:42:28.120 So let's not pretend I'm not.
00:42:30.200 I'm going to do a show on white women this week too.
00:42:32.960 So I got smoke for everybody.
00:42:35.280 but it's the lack of good faith it's just incredible like in a good debate you got to
00:42:44.240 go back and forth back and forth like i and i i just have a good knack for this i did six shows
00:42:49.040 with 10 people on it six days a week for a year and two years at four days a week there's nobody
00:42:54.640 that's done more panels than me except myron i should have said okay let me let me skip over this
00:42:59.200 we have buttons for that but he that was his first time okay now now excuses that's what we get to
00:43:04.880 excuses for the bad behavior there's never an apology for the bad behavior and what the reason
00:43:12.160 i'm trying to point this out is because really i think black people if if you guys learn to
00:43:18.160 apologize we could just have a better relationship it would just be better when i when when i talk
00:43:23.840 to you and a real apology on the phone with him because of what you asked as well too i do that
00:43:28.800 too about this but he's over talking me okay it's it's you just it's like a it's a thing go
00:43:35.600 go ahead you could finish though no no let me say something real fast
00:43:40.960 and then the black guy says he's gonna go
00:43:45.760 yeah the problem is women like jazz they want white people to sit there and be quiet because
00:43:51.440 almost every single panel that pearl has been on she's been expected well those days are over
00:43:58.160 black fatigue is real if you bring up an established person who's done the work on
00:44:03.120 youtube yeah okay no offense doug i'm gonna skip i just want to get to the end okay i want to get
00:44:07.760 to the end have herpes they have really high gonorrhea stats really high hiv stats white men
00:44:14.000 this is a concern for white guys and this is this is a reason she said so that's equivalent that's
00:44:20.240 warranted if a black woman says that white men like black women that that's matched with black
00:44:24.960 women 50 of black women have herpes that's true that's justified yeah and so again women get
00:44:31.120 really emotional about the way the information is said where men um they care about the information
00:44:37.200 so this is a very female like way to do this all right now let me if i said white women like
00:44:43.120 black men and i say oh all white people are racist like is that equivalent does that match
00:44:47.600 no because the fact the facts data and statistics and also real life experience don't match up with
00:44:52.560 that right because white people actually give black people opportunities all the time so there's
00:44:57.280 no what does that have to do when she said that white women want uh oh my god it's like i was
00:45:04.000 wrong too you'll find a way to bring race into it just just because i do respect this is me getting
00:45:09.840 tired this is me like this you ever have a woman argue with you and you're like trying to say
00:45:15.360 something and then the woman's like argue argue argue argue and you're just like you know what
00:45:20.720 you're right you win could you i i sorry i do understand your opinion i just don't respect
00:45:29.600 that you know how to do this better than me i'm just being honest here i don't mean what do you
00:45:34.160 mean by that i just don't think you're qualified to give me advice on how to do this tell me how
00:45:39.280 why because you got more viewers than me because of your results what's the results i just thought
00:45:44.000 i'm like been on this for two three years i haven't even went consistent every single day
00:45:47.360 so how can you why why would you do this better than me you had how many people again if this
00:45:51.200 was a white person oh i'm sorry i'm telling you this is how it would go if it was a white person
00:45:59.200 they would say oh you're right i'm probably talking out of my ass i'm sorry you're right
00:46:06.160 i probably am not qualified to give you advice who i have watching right okay okay how many people
00:46:12.800 have watching right now live okay so again we could go back and forth as a view off or whatever
00:46:20.800 i'm just i well you can you can do as you wish um you did that pearl not me i'm trying to i
00:46:28.400 gaslight okay we're gonna this is a crash who asked you to be on this panel i'm just gonna
00:46:34.400 okay okay we're gonna i'm gonna mute you i'm gonna mute you the crash out yeah i love i love
00:46:38.960 this is why i love it here so i'm just gonna i'm just gonna put this here i'm just gonna put this
00:46:47.840 here um i think this is really demonstrating why um white people at times do not give opportunities
00:46:57.360 to black people because you guys just make it a lot more difficult to work with you do you see his
00:47:03.200 face it's like i'm being honest i'm like look you have made this a very negative interaction
00:47:10.800 you had your co-host crash out on me um you guys started lecturing me you came here you
00:47:17.440 started monologuing and lecturing me this was not a pleasant i did not have fun this was not pleasant
00:47:24.000 for me and a lot of white people aren't going to tell you guys this because we just you know like
00:47:28.960 men we just walk away and i'm i'm out here saying hey black people um i'm being honest
00:47:34.720 i'm being honest about the way this goes um and and that's me being really honest that's me um
00:47:43.760 and i would say this is just increasing the difficulty and then i i would just say you know
00:47:48.320 what we just won't do it again it's fine totally fine yeah you know you can we're supposed to be
00:47:53.200 americans where you can keep doing this okay so american now again again and we just don't get it
00:48:00.320 we're like okay you clearly don't like me based on the way you're interacting let's just never talk
00:48:08.080 let's just never talk again and we can move on and then they keep they keep going it's like
00:48:14.480 yeah i know so then i just want to give an update i did this stream so this week
00:48:21.440 white people were very forgiving so we do accept apologies fairly easily
00:48:30.480 like we we accept apologies like the easiest you know all you really got to do to a white person
00:48:36.000 is nicely say i'm sorry this is what i'm gonna half the time you don't even have to make it up
00:48:40.880 to us that's how forgiving we are we are like the we are like the queen and kings of like okay let's
00:48:47.680 let it go i mean maybe not the women i could do a white woman stream a different day
00:48:54.160 so anyways this whole week this whole week um he's been asking me to do a panel today
00:49:02.960 and he's been saying um let me let me paraphrase some of this
00:49:17.680 we got to do this basically i'm going to paraphrase he tells me he wants to do the show
00:49:24.820 sunday if we're both not in our feelings um although as i just demonstrated i was clearly
00:49:31.400 not offended um then he says you can do clips you can super chat and especially if you're not
00:49:38.960 offended you should be able to do my stream so he's like subtly trying to insult me there
00:49:44.060 And I keep saying, you know, that's not an apology
00:49:47.280 That is not an apology
00:49:50.740 And I'm really trying to be honest with black people here, you know
00:49:54.920 You win a lot more people with sugar
00:49:59.080 Like being nice than being mean, especially white people
00:50:02.520 Black people you could be nice to and they'll be mean back
00:50:05.640 But white people, if you're nice to us, we're nice back
00:50:08.900 Generally speaking
00:50:10.160 i apologize that he says he apologizes but he didn't do anything to disrespect me so he
00:50:17.540 apologizes and then gaslights me in the in the middle of it
00:50:21.560 then he gives me a million excuse and i just keep saying back hey pearl i apologize and i was wrong
00:50:29.420 try it i and you know it kind of came down to i said either apologize or um
00:50:37.960 apologize or, um, stop bothering me. Leave me alone, please leave me alone. Um, so today I
00:50:47.920 really did do this panel, um, for one reason, uh, to be petty. I'm going to be honest. Yep.
00:50:54.040 This is a petty panel. Um, yeah, I'm, I'm just gonna, I'm going to be honest here
00:51:01.120 and it because i really just don't like this insinuation that i um i somehow need this channel
00:51:12.460 oh no i'm admitting it i'm not petty often but occasionally i will be petty that's that's very
00:51:21.960 true i can and will be petty so i decided to actually redo this panel on my channel
00:51:28.080 um with doug mpa as a moderator and that way we could actually have a nice conversation hopefully
00:51:35.320 today um because black men crash out like this because at the end of the day they have to go
00:51:41.860 back to keisha if he doesn't berate you on her behalf no cheeks for him i don't know why they
00:51:47.540 do this but i'll just say and it's not all of them right doug mpa is obviously here i know doug
00:51:53.320 just pearly things thank you it's not all of them and i've always said it's not it's very obviously
00:51:59.560 not all of them but this is way more prevalent in black culture than white culture it's absolutely
00:52:04.520 more it's like not even close it's not even it's not even a little bit close it's it's just not
00:52:12.440 and i've lived in white areas i've lived in black areas i i've lived in both and um it's the same
00:52:18.280 thing like if i was going to compare men and women you know do women and men um who apologizes more
00:52:24.360 men or women we all know the answer come on come on oh donovan if you want to come up you can come
00:52:32.600 up too oh yeah let donovan out if you um if you want to come up put it in the chat and so um again
00:52:43.960 don't do it it's a trap once they show you their victims they'll always set you up and
00:52:47.240 blame you for everything i'm black and i'm not saying that last part but i'm ninja
00:52:55.880 but no no it's not looking it's not all and i've always said it's not all but
00:53:01.720 you know we got to talk about generalization we got to stop being offended by generalizations
00:53:07.080 and i've talked about white woman too i really have and there's some white women
00:53:10.920 that annoys me like um the christian white woman is like the worst type of white women because
00:53:16.120 they beat your head they beat you over the head with a bible oh my god oh my god those are the
00:53:23.320 women that terrorize their husbands oh they're the worst ones okay probably who's black women are too
00:53:31.000 fat because 75 of them are fat not all but like so they can't really get in the door because they're
00:53:37.720 too big but white women get in the door and they kind of ruin the guys that look at this everyone's
00:53:42.840 got their problems but if we're offended by generalizations i don't know how we have a
00:53:46.680 conversation and men understand this but you know who doesn't understand this women and men that
00:53:51.640 think like women what is the point that black people are given opportunities maybe there's a
00:53:56.120 reason it has to be done and laws have to be created for it what is the point that make to
00:54:01.000 make that black people are given i don't really understand this question maybe i'm dumb i don't
00:54:05.800 know uh a lot of black people men act emotional like women because they were raised by single
00:54:12.600 mothers and almost no strong male figures in their lives i don't know i just know they get offended
00:54:20.200 easier that's all i could tell you uh um all right doug mpa i'm gonna give it to you now because he
00:54:26.600 is the moderator and i said he would moderate and i would act as a panelist uh so welcome to the
00:54:31.720 show doug mpa and today i'm actually gonna host the panel that was not had last week um and by
00:54:38.120 the way this could have been had this week on ilcan's channel i i was completely open to doing
00:54:43.320 it i in no way felt like recruiting i in no way wanted i really i did not want to do this on my
00:54:49.800 channel um but again he was just so difficult to work with gun to my head i was like i guess i'm
00:54:55.320 doing it on my own channel so doug mpa uh-oh i think she fell out of the stream uh-oh hope she
00:55:05.240 comes back guys make sure to like the video subscribe if you haven't already this is going
00:55:08.760 to be a great show and a great panel i accidentally kicked myself up yeah so
00:55:14.920 what was i saying um i forgot i was talking about
00:55:20.360 you're talking about having the panel on your channel instead of oh yeah i i might mind you
00:55:24.840 i know um i also want to give a shout out to athena she's the first woman i've ever met that's added
00:55:30.040 value she came up and she i asked her to go on this panel and she even brought guests for me
00:55:39.880 do you know how annoying it is to bring guests like that's something youtubers
00:55:42.680 we're all too lazy to do i've never had a woman bring value ever in my life
00:55:46.680 you know are you latina are you white i'm half greek half colombian okay
00:56:00.600 i knew she was a latina because the latina women come in and they're like how can i help you
00:56:06.440 literally that's why that's why white women lose men to latinas
00:56:10.440 white women are busy working we're like let's go work into human resources and
00:56:17.160 tone police and the latinos are like can i cook for you
00:56:19.620 that's actually pretty accurate yeah she knows okay all right doug mp i'm sorry i'm gonna i'm
00:56:27.800 gonna give it to you i'm gonna drop for one second and you can bring up the panelists and
00:56:32.100 i'm gonna come back i'm gonna give donovan the link is that cool cool okay so guys we're gonna
00:56:38.860 bring an all-star cast up athena good to see i saw you in the chat uh the only thing i would say is
00:56:44.980 guys liberal women liberal white women will always be worse than the conservative white women
00:56:51.220 because liberal women will will complain about the patriarchy while they're benefiting from the
00:56:57.820 patriarchy they'll complain about white men the evil white men while they're married to one and
00:57:03.660 white man's paying her bills but she calls him a oppressor at the same time so to me liberal white
00:57:10.060 women are the uh are the worst even worse than drag cons so um guys we're gonna have a panel up
00:57:17.740 i'm gonna be asking all the questions we have some really good questions i i think if you saw the
00:57:23.340 panel that pro just showed you you know where we're gonna go with these questions and uh you
00:57:30.060 know i've i've been black in this country for over 40 years i've had black fatigue my
00:57:35.500 entire life i see people talking about the rise of black nerds up in the chat that was me growing
00:57:41.340 up so i've had black fatigue my entire life i'm really glad trump got into office and really put
00:57:47.580 pressure on these media companies so voices aren't being censored so people can talk about black
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00:58:18.360 I'm going to read a super chat real quick.
00:58:20.720 It's okay.
00:58:21.500 Just breeze past the fact that you said it in the video twice you were played.
00:58:25.640 No one says white people give white people opportunities.
00:58:28.200 It's implied.
00:58:30.220 um i just don't care i just look it like there's people that go into things in bad faith and good
00:58:37.020 faith and if you're offended i just don't care i really don't but i appreciate you paying me to
00:58:42.620 say that so i thank you anyways go ahead so um are there any other oh doug are you not able to add
00:58:56.060 people uh uh i am not hold on because i need to make you can i how do i make you a moderator
00:59:02.460 again let me see hold on i thought you were gonna edit um i don't i think that you're gonna have to
00:59:10.140 do it but you can do it yeah i can okay what up people hey we got smoothie queen i like your name
00:59:23.180 we got william james welcome to the show dr william james oh dr william james welcome to the show
00:59:32.860 and we got ho math welcome to the show everybody um if you want to give a quick intro feel free
00:59:38.520 um doug mp i'm gonna i'm gonna let you go so i am doug mpa i've been supporting pro since she had
00:59:45.740 15 000 subs i told her she she was going to be big time when she was small and she's met and
00:59:50.520 exceeded all all expectations i'm a pro supporter no matter what um i was there like
00:59:56.800 the black people that work for her made pearl into this and i support her 100 i'm 40 i'm in
01:00:04.380 my mid 40s i've had black fatigue my my entire life so i love this subject and i'm ready to
01:00:09.720 talk about it let's go athena go ahead you want to do each of the panelists do you want to start
01:00:15.480 with athena and then go to home math and everyone give like athena go ahead um so i'm just saying a
01:00:22.720 little about myself yeah yeah okay um i'm athena um i'm from texas born and raised um i have a
01:00:31.800 little homestead farm i like to go on panels and uh have a good time have uh these types of
01:00:38.020 conversations shout out to all my um my friends on tiktok and instagram um yeah that's about it
01:00:48.640 okay homath go ahead the legend legendary i am legendary um uh i am homath i became famous very
01:00:58.000 quickly for complaining intelligently about women on tiktok and now my skills are going to be used
01:01:03.320 to talk about other forms of political strife cool dr william james go for it uh dr william james
01:01:11.720 um author educator real estate investor um i guess you can say i became famous with my
01:01:19.260 appearance on jessily peterson's uh podcast um the author of the book black supremacy
01:01:25.680 um and yeah dr will james on instagram dr will james podcast on youtube and smoothie queen you
01:01:35.880 know jesse he's funny isn't he oh he's great he is well hi um smoothie queen here um my uh i debate
01:01:44.980 sometimes on uh tiktok with my uh friend shad wife um chad wife was invited up here but um she
01:01:51.560 she redirected me, she redirected Athena to me,
01:01:55.520 and I largely debate like racism, systemic racism
01:01:59.080 and feminism and those types of things.
01:02:02.560 But yeah, that's it.
01:02:05.180 So first off, Smoothie Green,
01:02:06.380 I have to say that you have beautiful hair.
01:02:08.540 Thank you.
01:02:09.380 And beautiful skin.
01:02:10.220 So do you.
01:02:11.220 Now I'm joking.
01:02:13.840 Okay, so if I have to interrupt you,
01:02:17.380 it's probably because you're going on too long.
01:02:19.320 I want people to make cogent points
01:02:21.560 so let's try to keep it civil okay so i'm going to be asking the questions we're going to get
01:02:26.440 right into it here let me get the question i'm sorry one second one second you guys okay
01:02:35.880 the biggest deflection tactic on we're talking about these subjects i'm going to ask the first
01:02:42.120 question why can't we talk about black people without bringing up white people what about isms
01:02:47.800 why is that always the case why can't we just have a conversation
01:02:51.640 about the issues with black people without bringing up white people
01:02:58.680 is there an order for like the smoothie go ahead you start talking if you want yeah let's go for it
01:03:05.160 um well i don't think that's the case honestly um i think that largely when we talk about like
01:03:10.520 black people experiencing stuff maybe i should have expanded more on my background so um i do a
01:03:15.640 lot of just like community organizing in general um i attend a college right we'll we'll figure out
01:03:22.360 if anyone can figure out what school it is but um i largely engage in these conversations and try to
01:03:26.920 address like disparities that exist amongst um black people in america and um people of other
01:03:31.880 marginalized groups but when we talk about like the experiences of black people what's going on
01:03:37.000 crime rates in education those types of things um the discussion largely isn't even like touching
01:03:43.640 systemic racism um largely we're talking about like how individual choices impact or like how
01:03:50.280 people make individual choices and like what that means for okay things let me reframe the question
01:03:55.640 we have a different perspective but that's because you're not answering the question let me let me
01:04:01.640 reframe it why is it that when there's criticism towards the black community they have to bring up
01:04:07.720 white people in defense against the criticism that's my question so your question like leading
01:04:13.720 might be the word maybe presumptuous but oh yeah i'll lead all day i'll leave okay go ahead sorry
01:04:19.560 would you say i said i said i'll lead all day oh no no but that's the point like you're saying
01:04:25.160 i'm not answering your question your question assumes that this is a reality when it does it
01:04:29.640 does assume it so so yeah like you're not saying anything that you're just saying i'm not answering
01:04:33.640 the question but you're like do you see where the disconnect is no answer you don't okay so you say
01:04:40.600 that whenever discussions like tour around black people like doing stuff that we talk about white
01:04:46.200 people that is not my reality right as much as i've engaged with like the um community organizing
01:04:53.800 space amongst like black people in general um that's not my reality so what's the first response
01:05:02.120 when you say black people commit commit more crime what do they say back um white boys are shooting
01:05:09.000 up super capita that's typically no i meant like if you say like 60 that's the response
01:05:14.920 like no no i'm saying usually usually when you say that black people respond with
01:05:21.320 but white people shoot up schools oh but i'm a because i don't do how did you hear me do that
01:05:27.960 actually we're not talking about you it's it's okay yeah how about this actually could i ask a
01:05:35.720 question here no you can't no you can't oh i can't okay no no not yet okay this isn't an i
01:05:41.880 me conversation yeah about you because that's going to derail the conversation we're talking
01:05:47.640 about general concepts in society yeah so whatever if you don't have an opinion on it we can move to
01:05:52.600 the next person oh i do but once again like aside from whose reality is what where are you getting
01:05:57.720 your generalization or like your like correctness from like how are you understanding or establishing
01:06:02.600 that this is like a reality eyes like my eyes yeah like that reality like why should i believe
01:06:10.840 your eyes why wouldn't i believe my eyes you know what how about this the question just move on man
01:06:17.880 we're already we're already we're already going meta on it go ahead yeah we're already
01:06:23.480 we're already getting meta on the conversation it's like we're getting into a point where it's
01:06:27.080 It's almost like discussing semantics already, and we're one minute in.
01:06:30.640 This is something that a lot of people, it's an experience that a lot of people share,
01:06:34.360 that if you want to talk about one group of people, whether it's a religion or a race
01:06:37.980 or whatever, they usually, like, it's just a very common experience.
01:06:42.360 It's my experience almost every time I talk about race.
01:06:45.360 It's like, well, white people do this.
01:06:46.940 It's what I get on Twitter.
01:06:47.900 It's what I get everywhere.
01:06:49.120 Everybody I have ever talked to about it has the same experience.
01:06:53.440 You know, we might not have data on it.
01:06:55.420 We might not have like a like a Cornell University study on how often somebody brings up comparisons, but we've all experienced it.
01:07:03.740 We all share that experience and we all are, you know, in general agreement with it.
01:07:08.500 So questioning whether or not it happens is like, for me, a nonstarter.
01:07:12.540 You know, yeah, it's just like it is the daily experience.
01:07:16.700 And to address the question directly, I would say that you're almost getting into like a metaphysical question there.
01:07:24.480 why do we why do you talk about if you start talking about one group why does do people bring
01:07:29.280 up another well if there was only one group of people you couldn't talk about them you know if
01:07:34.280 we only have one planet so we can't talk about the other planet like comparing earth to live on a
01:07:39.500 different planet there's only one so if we're splitting people into into more than one group
01:07:45.200 and talking about the characteristics of one immediately people want to compare them to the
01:07:48.640 characteristics of the other and in america at least the uh the tension between black people
01:07:55.420 and white people our differences and our conflicts and everything uh is the the primary it's been the
01:08:01.640 the largest uh racial or ethnic tension in america for as long as i can remember and probably as long
01:08:08.000 as the countries existed it's like a it's like a flagship you know it's like the main group conflict
01:08:14.360 in america if you ask me okay dr william james go for it okay so um while this may not be the
01:08:24.200 response the majority of the time i'm aware that some people do respond this way um the reason i
01:08:29.960 think that uh some black people may respond um with bringing up white people when um you say
01:08:37.160 something like oh what about black on black crime or black people commit the highest percentage of
01:08:44.040 crime they may respond with bringing up white people to other races because they don't want
01:08:48.200 to be singled out so they want to point out the fact that other groups do similar activities or
01:08:52.920 they do other things that are harmful to communities or america in general so they want to highlight
01:09:00.200 that so that they're not the only group being placed in the negative okay athena um i don't
01:09:08.680 know the reason why but i see this a lot of times as soon as i uh discuss things like issues within
01:09:15.320 women they immediately say well men do xyz so i i see it happen a lot um i think a lot of it is
01:09:23.480 maybe like maybe not wanting to be seen in a bad light maybe some guilt maybe embarrassment maybe
01:09:31.480 not wanting to be singled out the reason why that i'm not so sure but i i do see it
01:09:36.360 and multiple topics so donovan sharp introduce yourself and give a short intro please and then
01:09:46.600 answer the question if you would bless us your answer oh my god jesus christ guys i'm a nobody
01:09:52.760 man um oh stop it knock it off man oh stop it one of the og let's go the man who created womanies
01:10:01.480 oh stop it oh stop it look i'm gonna give a pre-existing excuse if i'm not on my game today
01:10:08.440 i just got back from the las vegas grand prix uh about six hours ago life changing experience i
01:10:15.640 know people don't care about it but i have a profound respect for formula one racing drivers
01:10:22.360 i can't even describe it anyway uh this is simple the reason why black people bring up what white
01:10:26.680 people do when we talk about what black people do is because they know they lost the argument
01:10:30.600 um and athena was right a lot of people bring especially women uh you know feminists they
01:10:36.240 bring up the what about the mendo argument and just like smoothie queen just she wouldn't answer
01:10:42.540 the question uh probably because she just doesn't know you know um and i wouldn't imagine that
01:10:47.860 smoothie queen ever brings up white people do it too in your conversations because you're out in
01:10:52.400 the black community trying to do positive things when you're out doing what you're doing you know
01:10:57.500 white negativity or whatever the case may be whatever white people are doing or not doing
01:11:01.740 in my opinion doesn't really have anything to do with what you're doing in the black community so
01:11:06.120 that's probably the reason why you're a little bit at a loss because you're not doing it um dr
01:11:11.840 william james um uh characterized this uh as yeah some you know some black people bring up the
01:11:18.900 white people do it too argument and it's probably is it all black people certainly not is it most
01:11:25.720 black people? Definitely not. But it's enough of them. And a lot of people say, well, not all
01:11:30.800 women do X, Y, and Z. No, not all women are hoes. Most women are not hoes. But enough women are
01:11:37.840 hoes to be getting our attention. And this is in any debate or conversation, when somebody feels
01:11:44.540 that their points are sort of being defeated, they'll go from, just like what Doug said,
01:11:50.880 They'll go from they'll go from micro to macro. They'll say like, OK, well, I I don't bring up, you know, what white people do.
01:11:58.280 Well, just because you're not bringing it up doesn't mean that that enough isn't happening.
01:12:02.700 And I'll end it with this. I hear all the time on my channel. Well, white people do it, too.
01:12:08.920 Yeah. White people do it, too. And a lot of times white people do it more and white people do it worse.
01:12:13.240 And my response to that is two wrongs don't make it right. Just because white people do it, too, doesn't that doesn't justify.
01:12:19.140 that doesn't justify the fact that black people commit most violent crimes in this country you
01:12:24.600 know relative to the population i'm gonna read a super chat really quick um you're welcome for
01:12:30.180 the 15 continue not understanding why people don't like you because of bad arguments and not
01:12:34.700 being held accountable especially black people recently i don't know i don't know how i will
01:12:39.940 survive okay next um when you think black think modern woman you criticize women they say what
01:12:46.760 about the men you criticize blacks they say that what about the whites the black vote and women's
01:12:51.560 vote is the same no accountability oh yeah sounds about right to me wait actually i guess i'm a
01:13:00.920 little bit lost now because what's his name i'm sorry i think it was mr sharp um you granted that
01:13:06.760 like it likely isn't even like the majority of black people however it's enough for it to draw
01:13:11.480 like attention and you someone earlier said that we're not using data or whatever but like we're
01:13:16.760 using like our eyes i think that was pearl you said that so if i'm saying that when i'm seeing
01:13:24.120 these conversations that white people aren't really brought up and what's i think yeah it was um sharp
01:13:31.240 you said that like oh when we're talking about or excuse me you said that like whenever i'm like
01:13:36.520 doing the material work or whatever that likely white people would be brought up it sounds like
01:13:41.720 the consensus is that like this is not only like not largely talked about at least with
01:13:47.080 the majority of black people but it sounds like an online you know phenomena so with the question
01:13:53.160 why would the question even be like leading yeah i think this is correct i think this is not
01:14:01.240 i think you're over complicating things and you're muddying the waters because you just
01:14:04.040 don't want to answer the question the question was why do black people bring up the crimes of
01:14:07.960 white people when white people talk about the crimes of black people and i think i mean it
01:14:13.480 wasn't the majority so why would we say that that's correct you was well okay that's fine we
01:14:19.240 can like listen we can play word games if we want to forget word games but like why would we hold
01:14:22.920 on hold on hold on hold on i didn't say all i didn't say most but it's most certainly enough
01:14:27.240 here's the thing black people don't ignore here's the thing man i used to be a i used to be
01:14:32.520 a i used to get all in my feelings and emotions i am a four-time convicted felon
01:14:37.480 of violent crimes they were my fault i was accountable etc etc and until i finally just
01:14:44.280 said you know what i could blame that this this person got an attitude with me that no no the
01:14:49.960 problem was this guy right here okay i didn't learn emotional control all right i grew up with
01:14:54.920 a very weak father a very domineering mother now my choices in life are my choices i'm not blaming
01:15:00.440 my choices on anybody but myself but it would be disingenuous of me to at least
01:15:05.240 at least not to acknowledge that my upbringing had a lot to do with the influence that my
01:15:12.600 upbringing had and my mistakes. But until I actually sat myself down and said, you know what,
01:15:18.700 you're the one messing this up. You're drinking too much. You're doing too much. You're doing too
01:15:22.560 many drugs. You're getting emotional. You need to check yourself. You need to change yourself.
01:15:26.840 Because when my homeboy actually told me, he's like, look, man, you're a good guy to be around,
01:15:30.220 but sometimes it's really difficult to be your friend. I didn't fire back and say, well, most of
01:15:34.860 the time I'm a good friend, because most of the time I was a good friend. But there were times
01:15:38.940 where it's very, very difficult for some of my closest friends to be around me. And I think a
01:15:44.640 lot of Black people don't have a lot of outward self-awareness. Anytime somebody talks about,
01:15:49.320 well, what is it, the statistic? 13% of Black people are 13% of the population. They commit
01:15:56.020 50% of the violent crimes. It's true, because I'm a part of that 50%. I don't get offended.
01:16:02.000 I don't start trying to reword questions or purposefully try to avoid the question or talk about subjectivity.
01:16:09.540 I just tell them I just I'm just straight up with it.
01:16:12.520 And it's interesting when we have these discussions, black people like yourself, you guys like to you guys like that.
01:16:18.020 You guys do like to play word games.
01:16:19.520 Anytime someone talks about anecdotal experience, you say, OK, well, what about the statistics?
01:16:23.540 Then if somebody comes with the statistics, OK, but that's not what I experienced.
01:16:26.840 Or why don't you talk about your ego?
01:16:28.200 So that the fact of the matter, and I under, trust me, I understand when you're involved
01:16:35.660 in behavior that people don't approve of.
01:16:38.500 It sucks.
01:16:39.300 It's embarrassing.
01:16:40.080 And it was a lack of character for me.
01:16:43.100 It was a lack of maturity.
01:16:44.600 It was a lack of emotional maturity.
01:16:47.120 But until I actually said, you know what, Donovan, you have a problem and it needs to
01:16:51.500 be addressed, I would not have gotten to where I am now.
01:16:55.200 But it appears that most black people, when you actually speak facts about black people, all they do is talk about, well, what about white fatigue?
01:17:02.960 Did you hear?
01:17:03.720 Wait, wait.
01:17:04.180 Did you stop interrupting?
01:17:05.200 You said most of them.
01:17:06.060 Don't interrupt me.
01:17:06.700 No, I'm not going to let you do that.
01:17:07.760 I will let you talk as much as you want.
01:17:11.180 Okay.
01:17:12.040 The bottom line here, the bottom line here is this.
01:17:14.480 Black people need to be a little bit more self-aware and we need to start admitting, yeah, you know what?
01:17:18.120 The black community is absolutely fucked up right now.
01:17:20.860 75% of mothers in the black community, they're baby mamas.
01:17:24.580 That's a problem. Three out of four black women aren't married and will never be married. That's a problem. The average black woman in this country is 187 pounds. That's a problem. I was a violent, emotional asshole. That was the problem. I don't run from my problems, but the black community appears to say, okay, everyone is pointing out what we're doing wrong, but instead of looking inward and saying, okay, guys, we need to change these things.
01:17:48.940 well what about white people well what about them well what about the school shooters okay
01:17:53.900 school shooters are hold on i want to give school shooters by the white community but criminals are
01:17:59.660 glorified by the black community because i have a whole bunch of questions so smoothly go ahead
01:18:04.540 yeah so i mean in this in whatever you just said you like verbatim said most black people engage
01:18:11.740 in this behavior while you earlier differentiated the fact that you don't even believe the majority
01:18:16.460 of black people engaging these behaviors so at the very least you talked about like oh people
01:18:21.020 operating within their feelings when they feel defensive and talking about topics like this
01:18:25.660 um if we're not going to operate off of feelings we would have to operate off of data
01:18:30.220 um if you want me to grant for instance that this is the reality just to engage with the conversation
01:18:35.180 i think it's important to make that clear instead of just like saying yeah i do leading questions
01:18:40.460 that's just what's going to have to be the reality so i can grant that but you said earlier that this
01:18:45.580 was most people and then you said before then that it wasn't most black people do you remember
01:18:50.540 saying that what i said and what i said was two more minutes because i have a bunch of more
01:18:56.060 questions oh we can move on this isn't even like i didn't um can we hear from athena yeah go ahead
01:19:03.500 if you go ahead you know oh i'm sorry um so i think i was just listening to y'all go back and
01:19:10.940 forth um and and also messaging people but i i think that if we look at maybe the reason why
01:19:17.980 um a lot of people are experiencing black people not taking accountability for these types of
01:19:23.900 things we could look at the um the statistics on black men not being in the homes um and we could
01:19:31.660 dive into the reason for that but men are the ones who are teaching accountability so if you don't
01:19:38.940 have a man in your home teaching you accountability it's hard for you to understand that and and
01:19:46.940 society has become so weak everyone um wants their feelings spared for everything everything's about
01:19:54.380 a safe space the other day i was on a panel and the guy was like oh we should have areas where
01:20:00.060 you have no um what a belief free zone i think is what he said where you can't talk about any
01:20:08.300 of your beliefs and i was like are we that far gone as a society that we can't even have these
01:20:13.660 discussions especially in person people crash out online but try to have this conversation
01:20:19.420 in person and see how it goes it's not going to end well um so i think it's be i actually do think
01:20:28.060 it's most black people when you talk about black crime i would say the majority do say what about
01:20:34.140 the white people it's just my experience um and the reason why is i think a lot of black people
01:20:40.440 are racist so yep against white people i think black people are more racist than white people
01:20:45.460 my experience i agree i agree too but that's going to lead to the next would i respond to that
01:20:50.620 go ahead okay go ahead because i would certainly say it's not the majority of black people in a
01:20:55.540 response to what donovan had said about he used to be a nigger uh i never was a nigger um i grew
01:21:02.300 with my mother and my father and i have degrees and a terminal degree never was incarcerated
01:21:08.940 um i have a license to carry in 35 states um because i chose to do things a certain way
01:21:14.300 um and when someone brings up you know black on black crime to me i don't need to
01:21:19.660 you know respond with um bringing up white people asian people any other demographic because i know
01:21:25.500 the facts what i would ask someone to do when they bring it up is also bring up who's the most
01:21:29.900 exonerated people and then when you do things like that it is it sort of gives you you know
01:21:34.940 a fair balance so i don't need to bring anyone up i also ask people how is data collected on crimes
01:21:39.820 does anyone on this panel know how to collect the data for crime reports
01:21:42.940 let me ask you something do you not believe the statistics because and see here's the thing i
01:21:47.900 don't are you gonna be putting each other off or not just i've heard the third are we gonna be
01:21:52.540 cutting each other off or not god i've been going yeah yeah we can we can i didn't land my plane
01:21:58.860 okay okay dr william go ahead go ahead yeah so um as far as the the the crimes and uh i'll i forget
01:22:07.660 where i was at so just to go with what he said believe in the statistics um i'm a researcher
01:22:12.940 i do my research i don't just believe statistics on face value you have to dive into statistics
01:22:17.900 and you have to look for threats to validity. So I did that. And that's what I'm saying. I know how
01:22:22.780 the data is collected. So I see threats to validity there. It's not something that you
01:22:26.460 can just take because it doesn't come from, it's not just based off of, it's based off really just
01:22:33.980 based off of arrests. And it's not based off convictions. And then you have to look at how
01:22:38.140 the data is collected. So you have to look, it comes from the uniform crime report. And the
01:22:42.540 uniform crime report comes from reports and it's not from every police station it's those who
01:22:48.860 submit it so it could be flawed data and yeah i mean that's why i always say that i agree with
01:22:54.060 you i i think there is flaws in data but to be honest my first line of how i believe things is
01:22:59.980 with my eyes yeah and i just you know if i go outside i see more black people that are criminals
01:23:06.140 yeah data is fake often enough that i'm sorry did i cut you off go ahead yeah sorry sorry
01:23:12.540 data is fake often enough that if it conflicts with my understanding of the world i just go with
01:23:17.020 my understanding of the world especially if it's something that everyone around me agrees with
01:23:21.260 how do you debate and identify truth with that being the case it's it's extremely extremely
01:23:27.100 difficult so yeah like how would i debate a pearl in like for instance well i don't
01:23:31.340 don't i don't i don't debate this is i just don't debate because people love to point to sources
01:23:37.940 and then you have to question the sources and it's like i don't have time to read this like 350 page
01:23:42.740 document in the middle of the i haven't heard of it before you know most people don't yeah and i
01:23:47.620 mean research yeah well i guess right you can you can do research if you have that like i don't have
01:23:55.320 any time to do that personally i have i'm very busy with others when you grow up you won't have
01:23:58.780 time to do it either. You're on a panel right now. This is for fun. Pearl's the only one getting
01:24:03.200 paid for this. What do you mean you don't have time? Do you want to discuss my schedule?
01:24:08.580 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. So I'm not that much of a researcher and I'm not that much of a
01:24:15.460 debater. I know how to do these things, but I don't engage in the whole, what are your sources
01:24:21.220 form of debate? Because there's a video I did a short version of a long time ago about a study
01:24:28.760 called what was it um it was called the myth of man the hunter myth of man the hunter and the way
01:24:38.580 that this uh piece of science uh starts out is by saying that it is a myth that men did the hunting
01:24:45.840 and women actually did it too if you actually read this thing it it describes that they had to
01:24:52.620 go to like dozens and dozens of hunter gatherer communities, and they asked them to tell stories
01:24:59.360 and the stories only a small percentage of them included women hunting ever. So they didn't
01:25:04.380 observe any women hunting. They only observed stories about women hunting, and it was only
01:25:09.040 like hunting squirrels. So what they presented it as was women are equal hunters to men. But when
01:25:15.360 you read their own data, it really confirms what we have already believed about it. It's the best
01:25:20.260 example of the disconnect between how scientific papers are used to you know to spread ideas and
01:25:28.440 what the truth actually is so when we get into this whole thing about we're talking about
01:25:33.720 data i think that we got into data when you were asking how do we even know that people bring up
01:25:41.620 white people when you say well let's talk about the black community and then people bring up the
01:25:44.720 white one if i understood you correctly your question was how do we know people even do that
01:25:48.720 that right um no it wasn't or are you asking i also well i also wanted to say i think you're
01:25:55.440 kind of easily manipulated if anybody can shove data in your face and you're just gonna burn it
01:26:00.640 yeah is that do you believe that that's the case for me i'm not sure i don't i don't really know
01:26:06.400 you okay no like no no yeah i agree hold on hold on here's the thing i just want to point out i'm
01:26:11.040 still having a question all the two of you dr james and uh smooth uh i don't want to get your
01:26:17.920 name we're on smoothie queen all the two of you have done which is fine is talk about the question
01:26:23.200 we're sitting here talking about the conversation and the acquisition of data and this and that and
01:26:27.920 the third let's let's let's have the conversation instead of talking about it the prison system like
01:26:33.600 like i don't need the statistics to tell me that most people in prison are black i don't need
01:26:37.920 statistics to tell me that you know black people commit uh a disproportionate number of violent
01:26:43.760 crimes is it most i don't know but i think i i think that most of us have been and listen you
01:26:48.960 can like we can do the passive aggressive and this and that in the third at the end of the day
01:26:56.080 i understand at the end of the day let's have the conversation all we're doing all we're doing is
01:27:00.480 talking about okay well let's talk about data acquisition i don't even remember what honestly
01:27:04.720 i don't even remember what the question was the majority of black people excuse me the majority
01:27:09.520 people in prison are black do you actually believe that um sorry that was black people
01:27:16.880 commit a disproportionate question was do you believe the majority of people in prison are black
01:27:22.080 yes why well that's crazy because like like i really want to understand why you believe that
01:27:29.840 well because the data the statistics all say so and have you there's no data that says the majority
01:27:34.400 you said that you weren't using that you said without data look look look just just just just
01:27:40.080 hear me out here okay i've been arrested and i'm not proud to say this okay i've been arrested over
01:27:45.760 30 times he's like i've been there yeah i know this is but but every time i'm locked up and i've
01:27:52.000 been and i'm not done every time i'm just listen i'm just taking a real every time
01:27:58.080 I'll just end it on this. Honestly, Dr. James and Smoothie Queen, I'll be honest with you. I'm not
01:28:09.040 as smart as either one of you. I'm just a guy who sounds a lot smarter than he is. I got lucky
01:28:15.220 and I made a good living on YouTube. Now I can pretty much do what I want. I'm one of the lucky
01:28:22.180 few. All I'm saying is let's talk about, let's have the conversation instead of talking about
01:28:27.000 because anytime we dive in and try to manipulate the question to make ourselves look right at the
01:28:32.040 end of the day do the two of you in the middle believe that black people that there is a problem
01:28:37.000 with black people committing violent crimes yes or no so that wasn't it here we go are we talking
01:28:42.360 about the question okay that's okay i'm gonna give a i'm gonna give a new question he said i didn't
01:28:47.160 answer the first question and i answered it okay i understand okay we've been on this question for
01:28:52.280 far too long so i'm going to ask a new question i want to start with oh oh quickly can i just point
01:28:57.960 out that black people make up 33 of the prison population the united states of america i guess
01:29:02.840 i was wrong it's happened before wait why would you say that you're wrong okay okay okay hold on
01:29:08.200 are you seriously so you're gonna say how do you know you're right and how like okay we're gonna
01:29:14.200 move on to the next question i don't even on this far too long okay crazy where did she go
01:29:19.320 Jesus Christ, man. Let's have the conversation.
01:29:23.060 Did she leave?
01:29:25.080 Okay. I want to hear from Pearl First, Tomas, Dr. James, Athena, Donovan, okay?
01:29:36.900 Why are white people wrong? Are white people wrong for being fatigued by black people?
01:29:47.940 Who's first?
01:29:49.320 oh you wanted me to go first no i don't think you're wrong um because i really don't think
01:29:55.800 you can argue with the way what we've experienced um like for me i never really cared about race at
01:30:03.160 all until black people fatigued me it wasn't until i yeah like i really didn't i never paid attention
01:30:09.640 then i had a black person steal equipment from me i never had a white person do that
01:30:13.800 then i had a black person make hit pieces on me that was personal friends with me calling
01:30:18.440 me a colonizer never had that happen from a white person um you know i actually had two black
01:30:26.440 youtubers do that um and um then i had you know i could just name all that there was a guy in school
01:30:34.440 who claimed he was um profiled badly by police but i knew him personally and he in fact did illegal
01:30:41.960 things like drinking underage and drugs and then made a big made it a big thing that like he was
01:30:48.520 oh no i was profiled by the police um and so it's like what what am i supposed to do not notice
01:30:55.560 yeah like i just i haven't had the same experiences with white people yeah i lived in an all black
01:31:00.680 area when i lived in the black area um black people would literally there would be self-checkout
01:31:05.800 and i would see them like oh yeah they would have security and in london they don't really
01:31:09.640 have enforcement laws there like it's pretty bad so um again that's why i say it's not really all
01:31:14.840 about data because you could put data in front of me saying that's not a problem but like am i not
01:31:21.000 supposed to notice it with my eyes um it's also racist things black people have said to me so
01:31:26.440 like i dated a black guy and um when i was dating him black women said like pretty messed up stuff
01:31:33.240 to me um am i supposed to not like notice that you know what i mean so it's like even when we
01:31:40.680 don't see race um like you know it kind of comes to us and like what are we supposed to do i'd like
01:31:50.920 to say to dr james um i'm i'm you're i mean i'm assuming your statistic is correct i have no
01:31:56.440 reason to doubt that the fact that black people make up 33 of the prison population despite being
01:32:02.280 only 13 percent of the population that's to me that's not a that's not a defeat of the argument
01:32:08.320 right okay so most so the prison system is not mostly black people but it's almost the same
01:32:15.380 argument as when people say well there are more white people on ebt and welfare than white people
01:32:19.960 yes there are statistically per capita a much higher percentage of black people are on welfare
01:32:25.640 and ebt than white people you line up 100 black people and 100 white people the number of what
01:32:30.880 the number of black people on welfare EBT is going to dwarf the number of white people per 100.
01:32:36.820 So I just wanted to go ahead and make that statistic. The short answer to the question
01:32:39.940 that Doug MPA asked is, I mean, listen, white people have every reason to be black,
01:32:45.900 to be black fatigued. But I think that black men like myself and Dr. James, I think that we have a
01:32:51.280 bigger right to be black fatigued because it's the niggas in the street that make it hard for
01:32:55.660 guys. And I don't, I don't, I mean, I'm not trying to compare myself to Dr. James. I don't
01:32:58.480 have a doctorate. I dropped out in school. I was a chucklehead, whatever. But, but when you talk,
01:33:03.840 when you talk about, when you talk about stuff like this, it's the niggas that make men like
01:33:08.760 myself, at least I can only speak for myself, that make men like me look bad. There's a reason
01:33:13.800 why they lock up the Hennessy and not the Smirnoff. There's a reason why they lock up. I'm being
01:33:19.580 straight up. There's a reason why when you go to the, when you go to the black CVS, literally
01:33:23.920 everything is locked up there is a reason why i live in a gated community there is a reason why
01:33:29.100 things are the way they are and we can and again we can sit here and we can try to talk nuance and
01:33:34.140 try to and try to finagle you know statistics at the end of the day the eyes don't lie the eyes
01:33:40.080 don't lie people see this stuff online and i think it's i also find it very interesting that black
01:33:44.500 people like to say well this is just something you see on the internet we say all the time art
01:33:48.700 reflects life everybody has a smartphone now the internet is reality what you are seeing on the
01:33:53.760 internet obviously obviously the ai stuff notwithstanding that i that i think is a pretty
01:33:59.520 accurate depiction of the world there is no hashtag white fatigue as a matter of fact white fatigue
01:34:03.980 came to a head with the whole george floyd thing we talk about well what about white fatigue we've
01:34:08.240 been talking about white fatigue for the last 20 some odd years but we didn't call it that
01:34:11.920 but now that people have smartphones and we're seeing the body cam footage uh you know from
01:34:16.540 from the police videos now we're starting to understand oh okay i understand why things are
01:34:21.680 the way they are okay so the question itself i think reveals exactly what's going on here you
01:34:29.880 said are white people wrong to be fatigued um why would that ever be wrong why would we even
01:34:36.960 question whether it's wrong how people feel about something that the the question itself is it's
01:34:42.680 like it's almost like saying is it wrong for you to feel cold we have this data that says it's not
01:34:49.740 cold in here right so you so you stop shivering oh okay well now i'm right it's like that you when
01:34:58.140 you're experiencing something you know it and then people tell you oh you this data invalidates your
01:35:03.420 experience go to hell we're all experiencing and we're all talking about it we know what's going
01:35:08.140 on we share the information with each other the fact that we can construct a question like that
01:35:12.140 is it wrong to feels a way about something is, is kind of insane. Um, you know, we all know about
01:35:19.840 political correctness. We all know it's gone off the rails. It has been extremely difficult. Like
01:35:24.960 I have issues based on not being able to say things that I really feel like I want to say.
01:35:31.980 Oh, Smoothie Queen is back. Hi. Um, I have, I have, it's very difficult for me. I have a
01:35:38.260 a personality that's extreme in a few ways if i can't tell the truth and it's not necessarily
01:35:45.380 that i have to be lying but if someone says something and i have to be quiet about it
01:35:49.520 it really bothers me and this particular issue has has bothered me very deeply over the past
01:35:55.380 years like the george floyd time was very hard for me because it was just really obvious to me
01:36:01.200 that it was another one of those things where it's being portrayed as if there's this totally
01:36:06.280 innocent victim who's being just viciously murdered just for existing while black but the
01:36:11.420 reality is you know a lot more complex and you know the guy got himself into a lot of trouble
01:36:16.040 and not being able to even say you know this is what i feel about it is like that's that's
01:36:25.020 insane that's it's crazy that we live in conditions like that that it's not even
01:36:30.060 acceptable to talk about how you feel about an issue based on racial lines
01:36:34.720 okay dr james okay so to address what um mr sharp said um you don't have to you know have a doctorate
01:36:47.020 to be intelligent you can be autodidactic and even if you being a criminal that doesn't you
01:36:51.380 know mean much malcolm x was a criminal and we know his history and he was rather intelligent
01:36:55.740 um when we look at black people being 33 percent of the prison population um even though they make
01:37:03.100 13 percent of the total population in america you have to consider systemic racism and you have to
01:37:09.420 consider all of the facts so i don't know exactly what we're talking about with the fatigue part
01:37:14.140 of being fed up with something but i do look at data and i do look at facts and i do analyze it
01:37:20.460 and i look at the type of sources tier one tier two what type of source of it the credibility
01:37:24.700 surrounding the source so one of the reasons that we have to do this because
01:37:28.620 a key argument or key pushback when we look at the criminology and sentencing, we have to look
01:37:36.540 at racial disparities. We all know about the racial disparities and sentencing that took place
01:37:42.380 in the 80s and 90s, where they were given significantly more time to black criminals
01:37:51.260 for crack than they were to white criminals for cocaine. And we know that it's like one
01:37:56.540 decimal of a chemical that separates the two drugs all right that's systemic but furthermore i'll
01:38:02.620 read this to you according to a 2014 article in the washington post by christopher ingram blacks
01:38:09.100 are far more likely to be arrested for selling or possessing drugs than whites even though whites
01:38:14.060 use drugs at the same rate and whites are actually more likely to sell drugs whites were about 45
01:38:19.740 more likely than blacks to sell drugs in 1980 according to an analysis of national longitudinal
01:38:25.260 survey of youth by economist robert farley furthermore in 1995 dr patrick a langan conducted
01:38:32.300 research addressing the racial disparity in united states drug arrests and he found that whites were
01:38:36.460 more likely than blacks to sell drugs annually the substance abuse and mental health service
01:38:40.940 administration of the public health service surveys illicit drugs use uh through face-to-face
01:38:46.620 interviews with members of american households according to fbi data from 1991 to 1993 white
01:38:52.780 people made up 50 percent of the people arrested for selling drugs black people made up 49 percent
01:38:57.660 and other racial groups made up one percent according to 1991 through 1993 uh the samsa
01:39:03.660 survey data blacks are data blacks were arrested uh 16 of blacks were arrested for uh selling drugs
01:39:12.140 and 82 of whites were arrested for selling drugs blacks are 49 uh 49 of arrests for selling drugs
01:39:19.020 but only 16 percent of admitted drug sellers a disparity of 33 percentage points a threat
01:39:24.780 to validity in this data is the fact that it is based on the honesty of those who are arrested
01:39:29.020 however the difference is 66 and you can't base that off honesty alone so it shows systemic
01:39:34.780 racism that has taken place in policing and sentencing and racial disparities which can
01:39:40.060 account for why those black people are in prison at such a higher level i have a question i have a
01:39:45.740 question real quick i have two real quick things number one you're talking about stories and
01:39:51.020 statistics from 30 years ago this was 2025 my guy this ain't 1993. number two how about don't
01:39:56.700 possess or sell drugs how about that okay i gotta have a question i have a question how does this
01:40:01.580 relate to prior arrests and convictions because i don't i'm not studied on this but i heard that
01:40:07.260 the reason that there is a disparity in uh in in sentencing and convictions is because the uh uh
01:40:13.420 the blacks who were selling drugs or possessing drugs had more arrests for other things previously
01:40:20.860 dr james would you mind if i answered that i'm sure but i could i could easily point that out
01:40:27.340 why you answer that i could get the stat to debunk it go so go ahead oh no my answer is
01:40:32.540 really interesting actually so largely when this discussion is being had about like why
01:40:36.700 these sentencing or like why the prison rate is what it is um people don't know about the history
01:40:40.620 we have mandatory minimum sentencing and the fact that it still exists right now so you mentioned
01:40:45.260 um mr sharp that you mentioned that uh this is like 30 years old or whatever we still have
01:40:50.020 mandatory minimum sentencing that exists right now like how about how about we don't break the law
01:40:56.880 then we don't have to worry about we know but so once again like you asked that's what that's
01:41:00.780 i could show you this i'm gonna i could show you guys that was the point anyway so um i mean that's
01:41:10.100 fine i could i was curious what the rebuttal was to that oh i have the rebuttal if you're ready
01:41:15.700 yeah i'm ready all right guys can i read the rebuttal it just sounds like the two of you are
01:41:24.020 making you are like the two of you are making excuses okay okay hold on doug no you gotta
01:41:31.940 moderate better so far i want to keep people up on the question as to i know i'm gonna i want to
01:41:39.540 i want to i just want to answer a question hold on guys i just want to answer that you said the
01:41:43.860 sentencing disparities yeah hold on i'm going to show you guys a video oh just declare i said
01:41:49.460 mandatory minimum sentencing it's a that's a specific thing all right here we go
01:41:56.820 what what do you what exactly are you wearing i'm sorry you have a swimsuit on to me no it's
01:42:01.540 not a swimsuit and i did not know this was a court date i just told the lady back there that
01:42:06.420 i'm not dressed properly for court at all really yes you are not i agree with that 100 that's
01:42:12.260 that's that's very insulting to me um that you would come into my courtroom dressed like that
01:42:17.780 i apologize i had no idea this was it was in as a visit and not a court date
01:42:23.540 so i was unaware that this was a court date
01:42:25.620 because she wrote on the back of the car a visit so it was never said that this was a court date
01:42:33.540 all right yeah you know sometimes there's just like a lack of basic decorum
01:42:41.900 yeah there's a lot of factors involved in the if i could say something real fast like even
01:42:47.460 honestly even in this conversation it's like well here's a bunch of excuses i was here's the thing
01:42:54.340 there's certain things about black fatigue that you can't quantify. One of my friends was like,
01:43:00.620 oh yeah, the biggest problem is that the white people in flyover states, that they don't experience
01:43:05.500 the inner city culture and the crimes that are in the cities. But black fatigue is more than that.
01:43:10.980 It's about, you'll be in Boise, Idaho at a Whole Foods where there aren't a lot of black people,
01:43:17.440 but the three or four black people in the Whole Foods are yelling and screaming at everybody
01:43:22.820 loud and taking up everybody's face and determine the peace you can't quantify that but people are
01:43:29.760 tired of it it's not just about crime it's about it's about disturbing the peace making noise
01:43:36.880 taking up space that is the biggest problem and that's what people you can't quantify daily
01:43:43.000 yeah and and that's that's the thing is like you can you can kind of like you know slice the data
01:43:48.660 which way but you're not going to take away what people see with their eyes and it's just like
01:43:53.860 even even in this conversation it's like athena's being really polite i'm being polite the only one
01:44:00.740 with an attitude is smoothie queen and it's just like the queen definitely has it it's a very
01:44:08.580 it's very obvious and you know and then i just get more fatigued and i'm like you guys
01:44:13.140 guys for my point i tried to do a panel with black people to crash now to be fair though i did cut
01:44:17.680 off mr dr james i did want him to at least i see if it was a white girl yeah but it's not sorry
01:44:23.620 like that's how i said you're not the one directing the conversation you have to stop
01:44:31.220 saying i and me on a panel you don't want to do that uh dr william james i'm gonna give you two
01:44:37.020 minutes to respond if you're reading stats because yeah yeah i won't need more than two
01:44:42.340 minutes, probably not more than a minute. So he brought up, we want to make sure that
01:44:47.860 he brought up priors and stuff. We want to make sure everything is equal.
01:44:52.300 So a year long Herald Tribune investigation used two databases, one compiled by court checks and
01:44:58.380 the other by the Department of Corrections to find the racial inequalities in criminal
01:45:02.240 sentencing are rampant throughout Florida. So this is specifically in Florida. Blacks spend
01:45:06.940 more time behind bars than whites who score the same number of points on the state sentencing
01:45:11.140 guidelines so these are people when you compare apples to apples oranges to oranges they get
01:45:16.740 black people get sentenced more harshly you want more specifically for me for you one judge judge
01:45:23.140 sherwood bauer jr bauer is spelled b-a-u-e-r jr went viral for his clear racial bias and sentencing
01:45:31.140 black criminals opposed to white criminals judge sherwood uh is a white judge who had two men in
01:45:36.500 his courtroom one year apart for the exact same crime. Charles Leitner was 19 when he robbed three
01:45:42.820 men in the 2008 drug bill. Lamar Lloyd was 21 when he robbed a pizza hut and a gas station the
01:45:48.900 following year. Both men pleaded no contest, two counts of armed robbery. They were before the same
01:45:54.580 judge in the same courthouse. Each had a single misdemeanor on their record. They tallied the
01:45:59.540 exact same points on the score sheet used to determine criminal punishment in Florida,
01:46:04.500 but their sentences could not have been more different.
01:46:07.380 Lightner spent less than two years in a county jail.
01:46:10.140 He is now free to golf and fish on the weekends.
01:46:13.400 Lloyd got 26 years in prison.
01:46:15.760 I want to respond to that.
01:46:19.560 I want to respond to that.
01:46:21.860 You know, again, so these are like,
01:46:23.920 it's kind of like the nerds always come in.
01:46:26.220 And I mean, I don't mean that to be disrespectful,
01:46:29.420 but they come in and they say,
01:46:31.120 believe my facts, data, and statistics.
01:46:34.500 yeah well and it still goes back to i to some degree have to believe what i see with my eyes
01:46:41.940 i want to share it's impossible to believe i want to know i want to share something um hold on me
01:46:47.220 and here's the thing i agree
01:46:54.180 i just want to play something uh let's see in chicago oh god here we go chicago yeah
01:47:01.300 No, no, no, because, you know, you could say, oh, black people are arrested.
01:47:05.900 There's literally a guy in Chicago that's punching women in the face.
01:47:09.240 I think he finally got arrested, but he literally punched, like, five women in the face.
01:47:13.640 Serial puncher with a history of unprovoked attacks downtown faces new charges now.
01:47:18.660 William Livingston is accused of attacking two more women in June.
01:47:23.080 Courtney Spinelli is near the Cook County Jail, where he is being held tonight.
01:47:26.400 32 year old William Livingston is no stranger to the Cook County Jail. In fact, he was already behind bars in an alleged attack on Kathleen Miles of Lake Villa when he was arrested again yesterday on new charges. All I can think of is it takes so much anger to hit somebody with so much force. This summer, Miles became the latest victim of an attack allegedly at the hands of Livingston.
01:47:51.720 this area this was like not in a bad area like he just was walking around and they would have
01:47:58.560 him on tiktok like i knew girls filming him and he's like walking they're like that's i've seen
01:48:03.000 that so many times and it's like it's like you know you could say oh black people are so oppressed
01:48:07.900 but and this isn't just one example the the guy who um stabbed the girl on the train had also
01:48:14.200 been arrested and they let him out yeah so you saw that you know and even then i go to my personal
01:48:19.500 life and i'm like well white i've had so many white people around my equipment a black person
01:48:24.140 stole something yeah it's like i i do these panels all the time the yeah i want to pose a question
01:48:32.940 to everyone um and and i'm not saying because i i don't think i've done enough research on this but
01:48:38.780 you said that um black people are essentially they get more time so i would have to do a lot
01:48:47.900 lot of research to figure out why, but do you think maybe if fathers aren't in the home and
01:48:54.180 there are people who lack accountability, that judges can also see that and get really upset
01:48:59.340 that someone has an attitude and they're angry, they're unapologetic, and they're lacking any
01:49:06.360 sort of accountability. Do you think that could possibly be it? That's part of it. Not all of it.
01:49:11.540 I understand there are racist judges. There's racist people everywhere. I'm just asking,
01:49:15.740 i'm giving a little bit of pushback to see your thoughts on that judges are people too
01:49:19.900 emotional just like everybody else if you're asking me um if for it to be for a whole state
01:49:26.540 which the data was for florida that's kind of ridiculous and then with the same cases of a
01:49:32.140 19 year old and a 21 year old with the same point scale and two years in comparison to 26
01:49:38.700 that's a very wide margin in sentencing based on someone not showing remorse or whatever it is
01:49:45.340 and it wasn't even, you know, armed robbery. It wasn't even a violent crime where, you know,
01:49:52.220 when we're talking about like showing remorse or something like that, and they were young.
01:49:57.020 So like, if we just go with what I said, that doesn't even, judges have to be professional
01:50:03.660 and show discretion. So even if, you know, this person's not showing remorse, if it's a homicide
01:50:11.260 and they're not showing remorse i understand but if it's uh you stole something from pizza hut or
01:50:17.960 you went joyriding or certain things and the sentencing is always more harsh on the black
01:50:24.140 person than the white person that's crazy that's systemic racism i agree how do you
01:50:30.240 but what always tends to happen is like black people will come out with a stat that's saying
01:50:37.540 they're oppressed or like that a bad thing happened like or like you know with like blm like
01:50:42.780 they said oh this is racism and then it just always turns out to not be racism like there
01:50:47.280 always just seems to be a catch and you could shake your hat i'm just saying it's lived experience
01:50:51.600 i just want to say i'm against bill i was not yeah no no but i'm saying like i'm saying like
01:50:57.360 this is why you're going to have a hard time getting white people to really give the term
01:51:01.560 be anymore because it's like the term systemic just generally we've just been like we've just
01:51:07.640 been duped we've just been duped too many times where it's like this is the problem there's always
01:51:13.000 a catch we're gonna do whole math and then tom food i want you to introduce yourself and we're
01:51:18.280 going to ask you the question and then we're going to move on to the next one whole math go ahead
01:51:22.920 i kind of lost my place in the in the chatter it was something about how do you how do you identify
01:51:28.440 every single contributing factor to the result of disparate sentencing like it this is this is
01:51:36.020 again another thing that it would take me like weeks of studying to understand and we're expecting
01:51:41.000 uh uh everybody to make a judgment on that in 10 seconds while we hear it on a on a podcast
01:51:47.140 okay um it it's just it's it's it's very difficult to reconcile this idea of
01:51:54.480 like black people get heavier sentencing than white people for the same crime but what are
01:51:59.240 all of the factors you know how to how is that possible to identify i think i look i agree with
01:52:05.480 dr james in that judges shouldn't let the extenuating circumstances of non-violent crimes
01:52:14.500 you know factor into their sentencing but again judges are people too just because they should
01:52:20.220 doesn't mean they do we say all the time women should reward men for being loyal and supportive
01:52:25.600 but a lot of a disproportionate number of women don't this is the reason why we talk this is the
01:52:30.500 reason we talk about these but the bottom line is i'm just going to go with what homath said
01:52:35.280 here's the bottom line black fatigue is white people and other people saying it's cold outside
01:52:41.360 and then we have black people coming out here saying exactly what homath said wait a minute
01:52:45.520 statistics and studies and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Stop being cold and get warm.
01:52:51.880 Black fatigue didn't just come out of nowhere. And it just appears that a disproportionate number
01:52:56.980 of black people are just making excuses. And one last thing, I agree with Dr. James. Yes,
01:53:02.040 black people get sentenced to longer and harsher sentences. I'm going to repeat this again.
01:53:06.900 Don't commit crimes. If you don't, let me make a sports reference. A lot of people say, well,
01:53:10.720 this team got screwed over because of that one call and that may be true but if you played if
01:53:16.500 you played the game to the best of your ability you don't want to put it in the referee's hands
01:53:20.460 you want to take care of your business through the whole game that way if there is a questionable
01:53:24.360 call you'll have a big enough lead to absorb the bad call well if you know that black people are
01:53:29.620 getting harsher sentences for the same crimes how about we not commit those crimes okay okay
01:53:34.900 tom foolery introduce yourself real fast and the i'll give you two minutes because i want to move
01:53:40.420 on to the next question. Is it wrong for white people to have black fatigue? Introduce yourself
01:53:46.320 and then answer the question in two minutes because I want to move on to the next question.
01:53:50.640 Okay, cool. Yeah. Thanks for having me. My name's Tom. I go by Tom Fullery Show,
01:53:54.460 stream on YouTube, do politics and debates. I think that the term black fatigue is kind of
01:54:01.160 a little bit too broad. I think the term kind of encapsulates all black people in a way that I
01:54:07.320 think is kind of unfair especially when we're bringing up things like crime statistics when
01:54:11.540 sorry it's naked fatigue that's what it is go ahead go ahead tom well so yeah it's a minority
01:54:18.600 of the black community it's uh you know about 16 go to jail at some point and it is brought up that
01:54:24.380 like they uh even black people who do go to jail they tend to get sentenced they're more likely to
01:54:29.580 be sentenced more likely to go to prison more likely to have longer sentences more likely to
01:54:34.240 have their crimes upgraded. White people are more likely to have their crimes downgraded. And this
01:54:38.520 is for the same amount of priors with the same circumstances, just as likely that if you have a
01:54:43.700 paid lawyer versus a court-appointed lawyer. There's a study by the USCC that has all of
01:54:50.640 the circumstances surrounding their cases showing by different grids, which ones were more likely
01:54:56.100 or less likely, and that Black people were always going to get 9% more time, almost every single
01:55:02.700 time for uh for all cases and then there's more studies on federal cases as well that show that
01:55:08.620 some similar circumstances black men tend to get longer circumstances or sorry longer periods of
01:55:14.540 time okay and sweetie queen just asked for for two minutes to answer the question so i won't
01:55:21.900 need two minutes don't worry about that but there's two things that i at least do want to kind of
01:55:25.660 emphasize um at least answering the question right is it right or wrong for white people to have black
01:55:31.260 fatigue i just want to emphasize really fast that black fatigue like that the way that's
01:55:36.300 what's being discussed like quote clearly at least is not where the term came from it was coined by
01:55:40.860 a specific person it was coined by a black woman actually who was discussing the impacts the social
01:55:45.980 the um physiological and physical impacts of um races living within a racist society so the
01:55:52.300 studies like done from um done by this by west virginia um when they were trying to reach entirely
01:55:58.460 irrelevant oh i'm sorry so the reason why it's not is because like just i think it was actually i'm
01:56:04.060 not sure if it was tom or sharp but like they talked about like where the term came from and
01:56:08.620 what it actually means what does it matter where the term came from we're talking about how people
01:56:17.100 you're derailing the question we're talking about the entire panel tonight is about how people feel
01:56:22.700 okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay wait guys answer the question i'm i'm trying to but
01:56:29.580 like i'm not actually um this is what's wrong with you we can move on to the next question
01:56:34.460 we're fine okay okay next question next question incredible so so looking at the panel
01:56:41.500 looking at the beginning of the show the biggest thing that that set the panel off and this is
01:56:47.660 a relationship channel so i'll talk about intersexual dynamics between men and women
01:56:52.780 so i'm gonna ask this question okay why do so many black women have herpes and how do women with
01:57:03.020 such a high no no how are men supposed to navigate in sexual relationships and dating with a group of
01:57:08.860 women that have a 50 herpes rate which is an incurable std you need snow bunnies oh
01:57:19.500 who wants to go first i think so go ahead sorry okay i'll go first i'll go first how about that
01:57:30.540 guys you know i always say i i say on my channel american black women are the
01:57:37.020 are the worst women on the planet straight up not all but maybe 80 you know like guys you
01:57:43.580 have to be careful out there you you really do no men on the planet have worse women to choose from
01:57:49.180 and and there are factors why and this is one of the biggest reasons why the sexual irresponsibility
01:57:55.660 guys you ha um you have to be careful and you have to stay safe protect yourself at all times
01:58:03.180 protection and if it doesn't seem right especially nowadays and a lot of majority black areas a lot
01:58:11.100 of black women will get insulted if you whip out a condom they'll say what you think i'm dirty
01:58:17.340 say yes put on a condom if you choose to deal with them waiting out you can still get healthy
01:58:23.980 yeah so those just just could i respond or yeah i mean two things right like if we're going to
01:58:33.660 mention studies it's like eyes we either like do or don't right because like the 50 that was for
01:58:40.460 that was between like 2005 and 2008 and like the cdc shows now at least that like black woman makeup
01:58:46.780 i'm excuse me about 38 34 34.6 of black women in america have herpes but moreover
01:58:53.740 i like this is like less than like the global like you know like 70 67 of like all like
01:58:59.340 around america we don't live around the world like do you know so do we know why i said that
01:59:05.820 or are we just trying to respond to response yes there it is i'm just gonna kick you because i
01:59:12.060 I find you annoying.
01:59:13.180 Dude, she's...
01:59:14.040 Sorry.
01:59:14.960 Dude, she never...
01:59:15.760 I'm sorry.
01:59:17.580 Hold on, hold on, hold on.
01:59:19.320 This is my show.
01:59:21.520 If I find you annoying enough, I'll just kick you.
01:59:23.900 Sorry.
01:59:25.240 She's not a great contributor.
01:59:26.780 She derails everything.
01:59:28.380 Yeah, I said bring her back on because I wanted to see her reaction to the herpes question,
01:59:33.440 and she did exactly what I thought.
01:59:35.020 There you go.
01:59:35.560 Well, what you have to understand, I'll actually answer for it.
01:59:38.400 Well, you have to understand is the definition of herpes was invented back in 1841 by a blackbird.
01:59:44.900 Get the fuck out of here.
01:59:46.520 And here's the thing.
01:59:47.480 No direct answer at all.
01:59:49.600 I'll actually answer the question.
01:59:50.660 How do you navigate?
01:59:51.800 Let me get things back on track.
01:59:53.120 How do you navigate a sexual marketplace?
01:59:55.360 And I can't believe I'm saying this, where STD rates amongst all women appear to be higher than it's worth pursuing.
02:00:03.780 Guys, you've got to use common sense, man.
02:00:05.540 Watch her activities.
02:00:06.740 Is she a hoe or is she not?
02:00:07.980 is she showing her body on instagram the chances are she's gonna have a higher likely of having an
02:00:12.560 std than not somebody in the chat obviously said well white girls have stds too yeah not nearly as
02:00:18.180 much of a rate as black women we all dude i swear to god dude black women i think sometimes it's
02:00:23.360 almost like they're born pregnant it's it's almost like they're born but like the promise the
02:00:27.460 promiscuity the promiscuity in the so-called black community it's absolutely ridiculous and this is
02:00:32.460 why 75 percent of black women are baby mamas dude listen man at the end of the at the end of the day
02:00:38.000 we can sit here and deny and obfuscate and try to muddy the waters but just like pearl and home
02:00:43.160 math says we see what we see and we can sit here and we can talk about the internet like it's this
02:00:47.520 magical land of make-believe no the internet is a glimpse of what's happening in real life
02:00:52.500 okay um go ahead i was hoping to hear more from dr william james
02:00:59.120 you're sure i'm just very disciplined and i wait my turn yeah no you've been great so i was just
02:01:08.460 curious um maybe it's kind of going back to something that i said before we were talking
02:01:14.780 about because you keep bringing up facts data and statistics but i think most of the fatigue
02:01:20.960 really comes with like interactions with black people yeah like i don't think it's like people
02:01:26.320 watching the news it's like like for me i got fatigued i said where black people treated me
02:01:32.100 a certain way and i was very nice to them yeah pearl so no i'm serious i'm like no i'm i doubled
02:01:41.240 this guy's subscribers just for him to like crash out oh yeah yeah i'm not sure what what instances
02:01:47.980 you're talking about i'm sure of it just for her story i recognize the behavior who are you
02:01:53.500 referring to you double their subscribers and they did that to you yeah he was my co i thought
02:01:58.800 we were friends like i literally i was i no no no we're not gonna name him but just because i
02:02:07.200 refuse to speak his name no dr james was trying to do it i really want to i really want to finish
02:02:14.360 um no i mean it was just like we were friends and then one day he just decided to make a hit piece
02:02:20.040 and he accused me of like trying to get footage of black people and like hold it over their heads i
02:02:24.360 never did that and it was kind of crazy because he had like footage of me at like like like at one of
02:02:31.240 i don't know like behind the scenes that he like put in the video and he had he put like people
02:02:36.120 that were behind the scenes on camera that weren't even like public figure like it was just it was
02:02:40.520 just a full-on crash out that happened twice um another girl another person that worked for me
02:02:46.680 stole from me and i was a black person like and these are three different people all they weren't
02:02:52.760 even they weren't even from the same country american black british black and so you know
02:02:59.400 it's it's you know obviously um i i know it's not all and i i think as adults we can like figure out
02:03:07.560 that that's not everyone but yeah i just don't really understand how you don't know what we're
02:03:12.040 talking about well if you play the instagram i sent you pearl it sums up exactly what you're
02:03:16.600 saying so um in response to that um that's like you said that's that's not the data facts and
02:03:24.440 stats and i don't know if i think everyone has noticed i like to deal with the data facts and
02:03:28.280 statistics and you know uh i've seen your podcast you know with response to talking about women
02:03:35.160 and you focus on the data facts and statistics um with anecdotal you know evidence and anecdotal
02:03:41.560 experiences i'm sure we can all pick out people from opposite races who have done things negatively
02:03:48.040 to us i know i sure could if i wanted to but i'm not going to pick out anecdotal evidence
02:03:53.160 and say i have these three white people that did this these three asian people that did this
02:03:57.960 oh i'm fatigued with that racial category so um that's where it's more than three i would
02:04:04.840 actually say it's way more than three oh my god it's so much more oh my god it's more than three
02:04:10.040 I mean, I don't know how many you can name, but if I wanted to and sit down in my years of life, I'm 36 years old now, I could come up with a lot for pretty much every racial category.
02:04:21.440 Can I ask Dr. James a quick question?
02:04:23.240 Dr. James, can we agree that there is a problem in the black community?
02:04:26.360 Can we just agree on that simple fact?
02:04:28.380 There is.
02:04:29.160 And in my book, I talk about solutions.
02:04:32.000 That's the thing.
02:04:32.880 Well, Pearl had said something very interesting not too long ago where she said when she mentioned BLM, she said, you know, we've been duped so many times that, you know, it's hard to believe, you know, some of the data and stuff like that about black oppression.
02:04:49.660 And it's the same thing from the black perspective with we've been duped so many times in terms of, you know, our actual oppression or what's going to benefit us.
02:05:00.280 Well, an example could be, you know, the Tuskegee experiment. We've been duped so many times that when you tell us something's going to benefit us or something's better for us or the black community is so bad, we have to wonder, is this some form of an agenda? However, yes, there are several problems we need to fix in the black community.
02:05:19.680 was from 1932 gang banging gang banging drugs uh these negative uh agendas that they push with the
02:05:28.640 rap music all of that needs to be fixed and i'm a person who i want to fix it and i promote fixing it
02:05:35.760 um but i'm also aware that actual systemic things have taken place and i'm and i want to you know
02:05:43.280 alert people to that it's not over with it's still taking place so like even with the tuskegee
02:05:48.160 experiment that pearl said you know it was 1932 that's that went on for 40 years and those men
02:05:58.240 but the last person from that study didn't die until like 2014. but it wasn't you
02:06:02.960 like we're talking about like what you've experienced yeah no we haven't
02:06:09.280 experienced with racism we want to talk about that dude you're a daughter
02:06:12.080 I want to say a question. Athena, how do you men navigate dating and mating with a group
02:06:23.000 of women where 50% of them have an incurable STD? That is a good question. I think it's
02:06:31.640 really bad amongst all women. I think it was you, Pearl, you said like one out of three
02:06:37.980 women have had an std um and that's pretty horrifying um and 50 is that's that's i i'm
02:06:48.460 kind of at a loss for words actually it was um the last panel that i i heard that stat
02:06:54.540 that was the first time i heard that that's um i don't have much to say on it because i i don't
02:07:01.180 know how to navigate that outside of just getting tested um not even having casual i don't advocate
02:07:08.940 for anyone to have casual sex i think that people should um if they're going to have sex be in
02:07:15.500 committed relationships get tested um do those things i know it's probably not the most romantic
02:07:22.540 but it's the safest thing that you can do right okay and tomfoolery what do you have
02:07:27.980 I would have been navigating a dating market where 50% of the women of the group have an
02:07:36.140 incurable STD. It's kind of hard to consider. There do seem to be a lot of factors. One,
02:07:45.500 the fact that black men are more likely to mate with black women. That's who they live around.
02:07:50.540 That's who it is in their community. And so they're more likely to engage with one another. And so
02:07:55.120 when a virus is spreading within a group it is more likely to be more prevalent within that group
02:08:03.240 and uh there are studies that say that like black women happen to be more uh susceptible to uh herpes
02:08:11.020 as well and so i don't know okay so that's how we got here but like what's the solution i don't yeah
02:08:16.400 i don't know how how you can get like what what do you think the solution is just not avoid them
02:08:20.960 with black women anymore or yeah yes i did want to address like a because a number of people keep
02:08:28.640 saying like this is more about like our feelings than it is anything else but i would hope that
02:08:33.200 like we as you know logical thinkers as sapiens would want our feelings to align with reality
02:08:41.760 and that if we find out that we have like a bunch of anecdotal experiences where every time i engage
02:08:46.960 with a christian they're rude they're mean they're very judgmental they talk down to me that you know
02:08:52.080 if all over time i start to feel as though christians are all a bunch of pieces of
02:08:56.880 but then i realize that like you know data says they're like you know i don't know most christians
02:09:01.120 are very nice and most people have good experiences with christians i've just had like my own odd
02:09:06.000 anecdotal experiences i would want to look at that data and compare that but i think oh math you've
02:09:11.840 said a number of times they're like this is just a conversation about feelings and that we can't
02:09:16.000 say that our feelings are invalid but if your feelings don't align with reality then aren't
02:09:20.960 they invalid well it's that's a very complicated question it's what's been happening for hundreds
02:09:26.800 of years ever since black people were you know brought from africa to america is white people
02:09:31.120 have been moving away from like every time about 20 of a neighborhood becomes black the white
02:09:36.640 people all move out black people move into white areas and white people move away this is extremely
02:09:41.760 consistent there's no there's never been any trend of black people saying like oh white people are
02:09:46.460 moving in oh this sucks let's get out of here it's the other yeah the other way around is what
02:09:52.940 happens all the time so there's one group that's trying to trying to be separate and one group
02:09:57.880 that's trying to not be separate and this is this is the basis of the conversation is like should we
02:10:03.020 be allowed to draw borders around ourselves and be separate and our government says no and you
02:10:08.060 know pop culture says no and political correctness says no but it's like are we allowed to live the
02:10:13.000 way that we want or not well the majority of like white flight happened before the 60s and the what
02:10:19.400 i hear most people say is that black families were better off that like there was higher rates of
02:10:24.200 marriage fire yeah there were others in the household and so but black white people were
02:10:28.620 still moving away and even from what we know it did seem to be because of racism not because of
02:10:33.860 crime or any you know oh god now look at it but that i don't think that that's the case today i
02:10:39.380 think that today it's uh it's trending in a different direction but even when we bring up
02:10:44.020 terms like systemic racism people think that this means people are being racist which technically it
02:10:49.620 doesn't it doesn't mean any person is racist or being racist it's about like the the way that a
02:10:54.980 system works and then the disproportionate outcomes within the data i think systemic racism is a word
02:11:02.820 that people that don't really have jobs use yep no it's a white liberal
02:11:09.700 people that are yeah it's an academic term academics don't really like i feel like most
02:11:14.980 of them are kind of useless to be honest yeah systemic came up with freaking latinx and like
02:11:20.180 97 of people of latin heritage hate that word but they use these words to try to try and recreate
02:11:27.620 reality no white academics well academics pay but especially white liberal academics come on now no
02:11:34.020 it's systemic racism the term systemic racism is like is the weather racist and so how do white
02:11:42.820 listen systemic racism is what intellectuals it's the excuse that intellectuals use to justify
02:11:48.500 behavior that's it that what's that justification hold on hold on hold on hold on let me finish let
02:11:54.580 Let me finish. It is a justification because I just watched Dr. James sit here right now and say, well, yes, there are problems and X, Y and Z, but it's because of systemic or systemic racism has a factor in that.
02:12:06.840 When you when you say, OK, I understand that there are problems in the black community, but then there is a but what you're doing is you are giving niggas the excuse.
02:12:15.560 Well, the reason why I committed this, I actually had one dude call up in my show and tell me that that stress was passed down in from your genetics from one generation to the next.
02:12:27.080 And I could not I could not believe what I was hearing.
02:12:30.180 And this guy called himself educated.
02:12:32.220 The bottom line for me is this.
02:12:34.300 I'm only in America.
02:12:36.880 Only in America can you do what you do.
02:12:39.800 And and I would encourage anyone.
02:12:41.540 I've been guys I've been around the world.
02:12:43.100 I've been to like 20 something countries, man. Black people, American black people, we have it
02:12:49.120 the best right here. OK, again, I'm a four time convicted felon. I would not be able to accomplish
02:12:54.380 what I've accomplished in any other country but here. I'm a black man. And yes, I've made mistakes.
02:12:58.740 And yeah, there are there some racist cops and racist judges out there. Absolutely. But you want
02:13:02.700 to know how I avoided racist cops and racist judges? I quit committing fucking crimes. That's
02:13:07.820 what I did in order to in order to keep from getting screwed over by a bad call from the
02:13:11.820 referees i got my ducks in a row i played my perfect game i didn't get penalties i didn't get
02:13:16.660 offsides i did what i had to do that way when i did get screwed over on that penalty and no big
02:13:21.240 deal we're up by 21 anyway the way i stay out of trouble is i simply do not commit crimes and here
02:13:26.600 is the ultimate here is the ultimate factor in terms of 20 more seconds donovan i want to move
02:13:31.660 to the next question okay real quick the we all know that the black mecca is atlanta georgia okay
02:13:36.600 This is where most black people and niggas are
02:13:39.500 If you go to any store in Atlanta
02:13:41.880 Everything is locked up
02:13:43.460 Everything is boarded up
02:13:44.420 There's a reason for that
02:13:45.900 Can I respond to that
02:13:48.700 Because I feel like this is a really important
02:13:50.240 You're going to read Super Chats
02:13:51.940 Because there's a lot of them
02:13:53.020 Yeah, I'm going to read them
02:13:54.120 Okay, hold on
02:13:56.020 Let him respond while I pull up the Supers
02:14:00.320 Can I respond since I was mentioned
02:14:02.240 Yeah, go ahead
02:14:03.720 Yeah, because I didn't say
02:14:06.220 what he said i said however um you know uh when we look up um you know real issues that take place
02:14:15.140 in the black community um there is no but i said we need i i know we have to look at the solution
02:14:27.860 and i said i i'm one who goes hard on i you know i talk about the gang banging i talk about the
02:14:33.440 drugs. I talk about the music that is being promoted in our communities, and that has to be
02:14:37.620 fixed. The only part where I said the but is when I was talking about the duped part in reference to
02:14:42.620 what Pearl has said, and I spoke about that. When we look at systemic racism, it's a real thing when
02:14:49.880 you see that Wells Fargo just got sued for their discriminating in who they hire and who they
02:14:58.260 allowed a bank there. That's systemically racist. If you look at policing, who they hire, Long
02:15:05.280 Island, New York, look it up. 6,700 black cops went through the process from 2020 to 2023. 6,700
02:15:17.180 went through the process and only 67 were hired. They were disqualified off of a psychiatric exam,
02:15:23.900 which is not objective it's a professional opinion none of the uh black officers who were
02:15:31.200 disqualified by the uh psychiatrists none of them were disqualified by a black psychiatrist
02:15:37.160 i went to i used to work in i used to work in corporate america and um there was a guy i worked
02:15:44.140 with who is black and he literally we were in sales and we had to make like 50 calls a day or
02:15:49.980 something like that and he literally would call fax lines he would call fax lines instead of phone
02:15:58.660 numbers and you know what they couldn't fire him for eight months so i don't know i think that if
02:16:03.800 you're somebody i think a lot of academics like to feel really smart so they like put studies that
02:16:08.460 are funded by god knows who and they'll tell you god knows what i do reference facts data and
02:16:13.160 statistics at times but i do think it's important that it's backed up by real life experience
02:16:18.360 because if it's not then anybody can just put anything in front of you and you'll just believe
02:16:23.720 it so um do i believe that there's really discrimination in america not at all to be
02:16:29.120 honest um i actually think black people have it a lot easier there's a lot of scholars like
02:16:33.740 then i go back to high school right um there's a guy who got like a 28 on his act he was black
02:16:39.620 and got into notre dame white kid who got like a 33 got denied the woman who got a 30 got in
02:16:46.140 And so it's like these experiences just happen over and over. I understand that some people are saying that that could be anecdotal. I think anecdotal could be a one time thing. And again, I can tell you story after story after story. Like I could go on. I used to live in a black area. And when you live in like a place that's like 50 to 80 percent black people, you just notice a lot of differences in the way that as groups people live.
02:17:13.120 there's a lot of things I didn't really appreciate about white culture until I
02:17:16.020 lived amongst black people.
02:17:17.640 And I don't really think I'm wrong for having those opinions.
02:17:20.620 I know it's not all,
02:17:22.720 but I've actually noticed in life that the more you have to say not all about
02:17:26.260 somebody, the more they are like that.
02:17:28.280 You say not all women are whores.
02:17:30.100 They're usually more likely to be whores.
02:17:35.700 I understand that like black people and like,
02:17:41.680 i just don't see any systemic um the only thing that maybe could happen that like is arguably
02:17:48.040 systemic is like if i hired a black person um and that black person stole from me and then the other
02:17:56.220 one did a hit piece on me um ideally you know maybe you'd be less likely to hire black people
02:18:01.800 in the future because they've just caused many problems but against all odds i'm still an equal
02:18:06.640 opportunity employer um shopping shocking still here but i'll add to this real fast um in my in
02:18:17.100 my experience in academic and professional setting my worst enemy has always been another
02:18:23.360 black person when you have black people working for you they hate the white people and the black
02:18:27.900 people yep there's no unity amongst black so so they hired more black cops they would hate the
02:18:35.060 white people and each other. Honestly. Yeah, I agree. Sorry, I'll read the super chats really
02:18:42.040 quick. Christopher, I'd rather be here with you nerds than smoking weed. Anonymous-based,
02:18:47.420 Big W, Donovan for the accountability. John Gall, I can show you real-life clicks of my
02:18:52.700 black tenants. That would blow my mind. If you want to, you can DM me things on Twitter with a
02:18:58.000 Z if you want to come up. And Attorney Andrew, I sent you a link if you want to come up. Fully
02:19:03.700 one-third of fatigue males have had a felony conviction, one-third. You'd have to be insane
02:19:10.540 to live in that community unless you have to. Yeah, that's the other thing. It's like if white
02:19:15.780 people are so racist and terrible, like why do black people keep trying to live by us? Another
02:19:20.460 example, I lived in a white neighborhood my entire life. Two doors down from us, black people moved
02:19:26.880 in. And there was literally a shooting in my neighborhood, which is one of the largest
02:19:32.720 retirement neighborhoods in the midwest swear to god and um there it's like the quiet i grew up
02:19:38.400 with chickens two doors down black people move in and um somebody died because there was a drug
02:19:45.280 deal gone wrong i know they there's some data that says white people deal drugs more than black
02:19:50.080 people it's just you know um white people do love coke so i am going to give that that is probably
02:19:57.600 are drug people do love coke and adderall um but i even have a hard time believing that because
02:20:05.600 i've just met so many black guys that um i'm gonna read the rest of the super chat sorry and then i
02:20:13.760 will i will let you go home math um so then the entire um u.s real estate market can be explained
02:20:20.000 by law-abiding people fleeing the fatigue community max hey pearl i want to get into your sugary wall
02:20:25.440 okay that's a weird yeah there we go the book sex and culture describes when a society achieves
02:20:33.680 this level of sexual immorality they are doomed fact fatigue women commit homicide at a higher
02:20:39.600 rate than men of parlor um youtube mandates that tortured word oh yeah that's another thing um
02:20:48.400 black women also um are just much more quickly to get offended i've interviewed a thousand people
02:20:54.800 so i don't know that's actually more i've actually talked to more people than are in a lot of these
02:20:59.600 studies that so who's more credible me or them you know and black women just are way more disagreeable
02:21:07.840 they get offended way easier um where white people just tend to give the benefit of the
02:21:12.240 doubt and say oops i'm sorry uh way more polite um okay beneficiary benefish the washington post
02:21:20.720 bragged about 900 000 white americans losing their jobs and being replaced that would make anyone
02:21:25.920 tired yeah that's the other thing um def defiant brandon dr doofus is disingenuous he said that
02:21:34.000 the problem doesn't exist because there is no data then plugged in his garbage book is the solution
02:21:39.040 i see um y'all can repair that friendship most ninjas would have done the same after the ninjas
02:21:44.320 live good comment whole family per family profile made him turn on you comfort williams answers
02:21:51.760 history systems and data explains the behavior doesn't excuse it um you don't get to preempt
02:21:58.080 black fatigue how many are re-offending third strike laws i don't maybe you could do you know
02:22:04.640 how many were re-offending dr william james and third strike laws of the data you cited do you
02:22:10.960 know of the data i cited third strike none of them with third strike okay that's that's your answer
02:22:18.000 i'm full we thought strikes okay well then yeah they're they're oppressed um
02:22:24.880 no we're talking about when i was comparing like the sentencing with the uh point yeah i don't know
02:22:29.920 you don't have to go too in depth i was just gonna answer really quick stats show that black people
02:22:34.000 are convicted at the highest rate when the judge and the jury is predominantly black just stop we
02:22:39.280 see yn's going crazy all the time um luke red pill perry uh says salt um alpha keno and she's
02:22:48.880 black shout out to jesse and pearl um justin bring love you pearly keep grifting like a boss
02:22:54.560 girl's gotta eat thank you ninja ninja culture is a mind virus spread by rap music and social media
02:23:01.040 ninjas have to go to europe to escape john here's the irony don't commit crimes yeah but what
02:23:07.200 whip oh i agree you know i just don't think it's that hard to not commit crimes no offense donovan
02:23:15.200 um can mr fantastic and i came here for a respectful conversation
02:23:22.080 he's in the chat um 10 race sub hail hair math hoe math drop that knowledge um mr fantastic
02:23:28.320 could come on next week we're gonna continually do these sunday panels so um against all odds i've
02:23:34.400 i've had to do them because um a black host also um crashed out on me because i said 50 percent of
02:23:43.220 black women have herpes you know it's as if i made them get herpes you know what i mean
02:23:50.820 like um let urban landlord go up there and educate with his dope um beneficiary look at
02:23:59.480 the enforcement these judges play catch and replace with violent offenders when they fit
02:24:04.140 the narrative clue studio i've had a pew pew pointed at my face twice both were black red pill
02:24:10.320 perry black fatigue l yn's and l nick care mr fantastic i'll pay five dollars so it's not
02:24:17.020 ignored uh see do you see what i mean it's like they're the black super chatter he's he's assuming
02:24:22.440 i'm ignoring him which is bad faith when really there's just a lot of super chats and the
02:24:27.000 conversation was tough he's offended the white people that were also ignored are not offended
02:24:32.280 it just never like it never ends i i paid up five dollars this time so it's not ignored
02:24:38.280 our three dollar crimes and child molestations violent crimes you know what i had someone say
02:24:43.840 that white people were the majority of child molestations and that's actually true i googled
02:24:49.160 it um but black people are still overrepresented so there's still a higher percentage than they
02:24:55.560 are of the population um are sex crimes and child molestations violent yeah so i can't remember sex
02:25:03.960 crimes maybe they're worth a major majority and if we are i can live with that i really won't fight
02:25:10.920 you on it um joel dalton like all generalizations they are generally true um joe galt there's no
02:25:17.320 one on this panel that knows blacks like me i deal with them every day i did offer you to come up
02:25:22.440 up love the link but i'm not in a okay yeah it's okay no problem come on bro lighten up
02:25:30.700 no sorry i'm just going through them um full we no no oh sorry i i was reading something else
02:25:38.560 okay so when we talk about someone said they weren't in the right place for uh to call in
02:25:44.200 when you talk about latinos and asians they don't say what about the whites
02:25:48.140 most blacks do it and black women on this panel proving it um are sex and molestation violent
02:25:54.260 crimes um i don't know if they're categorized as that that's a good question i think they should
02:25:59.920 be i think that's yeah i mean although the only thing with sex crimes is women call everything
02:26:05.220 rape so it's just like yeah right it's just like uh i mean i would agree like a violent crime would
02:26:12.680 a guy um you know pulling them off the side of the road but there's just too much
02:26:19.800 you know they just like i saw something where the woman that accused harvey weinstein of like rape
02:26:25.960 was like in his hotel room and she's like i consented to getting eaten out but i didn't
02:26:29.880 consent to this other thing and i'm like that's crazy that you're able to talk publicly about this
02:26:36.280 like um fully todd um you're welcome for the 15 continue not understanding why people don't like
02:26:43.400 you because of bad arguments and not being held accountable especially yeah um i do understand
02:26:49.880 why black people don't like me and why people don't like me and i can live with it um fully
02:26:54.760 todd when you think black think about oh i read that okay okay home math go ahead it's your turn
02:27:00.040 oh man i had a lot of points that were relevant at the time um i'm not sure what to add at this
02:27:05.160 point i was going to talk about how the plural of anecdote is data i was going to talk about the
02:27:09.640 whole not all thing yeah do it man let me just throw this up real quick when people say not all
02:27:16.680 this is kind of like the point that they're making not all but you know still it's a problem
02:27:24.920 so you know not not really very persuasive um the drug deals i was going to say like what if
02:27:33.480 white drug dealers are just more polite what if they're just like nicer in court yeah i always say
02:27:39.320 i would be a really good drug dealer i i would be you're too tall yeah you would stand out pearl
02:27:47.880 i would be i would be a terrible drug dealer because i would be like are you sure that these
02:27:51.640 are the right drugs for you and it would never be true would you like a different strain of cocaine
02:27:58.440 today sir i feel like the not all thing is important though right like it when like people
02:28:03.440 say like all white people are racist or all men are dogs or something like that like i do think
02:28:08.440 that when you generalize overly generalize and say use these overly broad blanketed terms that i do
02:28:15.640 think that it is important for people but the world operates the world operates in generalities
02:28:20.540 otherwise we wouldn't be able to say anything i can say people in boston are rude no not all people
02:28:25.080 in boston are rude but we know that most people in boston are rude like everything can be combated
02:28:29.840 with not all tom you want to talk about something in the chat here about yeah i was gonna say the
02:28:35.640 like so earlier you guys were talking about the fact that like a lot of excuses are made and that
02:28:40.480 like the systemic racism is kind of just uh accusing people when like again systemic racism
02:28:45.900 is more just about data and once you find that there's a disproportionality you're just trying
02:28:50.360 to find a reason for that. I understand that when we bring up there's not two-parent households in
02:28:57.360 the Black community. This is us looking at a reason for why this might happen. And it's the
02:29:01.500 same if we find communities where there might be a lot more drug use. There's communities in,
02:29:06.020 I think, Ohio that have a ridiculous amount of heroin use there. So we're not just going to tell
02:29:12.120 them, hey, guys, just don't do heroin. We're going to try to find the reason for that. We also want
02:29:16.960 to hold them accountable. We also want them to go to jail if they get caught. We want drug dealers
02:29:20.660 to get in trouble. We want the accountability to be there. And so if people are turning around and
02:29:24.660 just saying, oh, it's because I'm black. Yes, they are using excuses to where that person as
02:29:29.240 an individual will never improve. And they need to actually take accountability for their own
02:29:33.180 lives. But as a society, when things become bigger problems and they become systemic,
02:29:38.160 not just for black people, but for drug use, for, you know, promiscuity, whatever, like the issue
02:29:44.100 is we want to look at what the causes are and what it is we can do to make these things less
02:29:48.900 likely and so that's the only reason that we would bring up stats and like systemic racism and things
02:29:53.860 like that is not to excuse what it is that's happening or say that they shouldn't be held
02:29:57.580 accountable in any way but to say if there's a reason for this that is important for us to have
02:30:02.780 the conversation it's important for us to have the conversation and it is a factor but if you
02:30:07.880 are a victim of a violent crime committed by a black person you don't want you don't give a
02:30:13.320 fuck about the why you don't give a shit about the why a lot of black people would say well
02:30:18.180 the reason why he committed this violent crime and they could have really legit reasons he grew
02:30:23.520 up without a father his mother was a drug dealer um he has maybe he has a learning what whatever
02:30:29.140 the case may be if you are the family of that victim you're not going to say you know what uh
02:30:33.160 you know your honor or jury i'm going to request a lighter sentence because i now know why i think
02:30:38.320 and i'm not saying that you're doing this tom uh tomfoolery but a lot of people want to have the
02:30:43.140 conversation why as a guise or a ruse to continue to make excuses no yeah not only it's not always
02:30:49.460 it's not only pointing out that you know uh systemic racism is an excuse but a lot of time
02:30:54.660 when people say not all and it's it's systemic racism it is a low-key indirect way of excusing
02:31:00.900 the behavior to some degree i want i want to see the rest of uh how math's thing do you want to
02:31:07.620 finish how math well where where was i what do i want to finish what oh i thought you were making
02:31:12.260 a drawing no oh no i was doing doing a whole bunch you were talking about like the not all
02:31:17.880 thing yeah the well the not all thing it's like that that's a topic that we could talk about for
02:31:23.000 like hours by itself when when we're again you know it's coming down to when a group of people
02:31:29.840 are generally expressing a sentiment around another group of people the idea is is not all
02:31:34.420 it's like well not all mexicans are in cartels so let's open the border and let them all in well
02:31:41.380 you let in the whole cartel right yeah um the brain could show anybody who needs not all lacks
02:31:47.860 the emotional maturity to engage in a productive adult dialogue we all know not all too many can
02:31:52.900 be inferred exactly exactly i would think it would at least be the majority though if we are using
02:31:58.260 like black people so like like i said earlier i do think it's white people are racist i would not
02:32:04.100 accept white people it doesn't it doesn't matter if it's the majority it matters if it if it's
02:32:09.700 enough to make a difference yeah i do think it's the majority um some of the things that i said
02:32:16.180 like i would say that i would guess the majority of black women have herpes um just because um
02:32:21.540 usually when there's like an std stat it's usually worse than you think because no because like who's
02:32:26.900 going to admit that you know you're going to have them to admit it i'm going to use this since we're
02:32:32.260 talking about the why and stuff and how we got here i'm going to use this as a segue for the
02:32:37.620 last question of the evening and i'm going to start with with athena and pearl the two ladies
02:32:44.660 and then we can go to dr james homath donovan tomfoolery okay how can men black men in particular
02:32:54.180 but you can use men in general um marry and have children with a group of women that don't see
02:33:01.780 fathers and husbands as necessary since we're talking about oh the single mothers and the crime
02:33:08.340 and stuff how can men black men in particular if you want to say men period how how can we
02:33:16.020 how can black men or men in general deal with and have a permanent relationship to marriage with
02:33:22.020 women let's see fathers yeah it is optional you can't it's cooked yeah i think it's actually
02:33:29.300 cooked for all races so i'm gonna worry we're all getting there but i would just really wouldn't
02:33:33.620 expect anything um maybe you can get a kid and maybe she'll let you have it but probably not so
02:33:38.820 i would just yeah okay and i would say that for all races white women we might wait a little like
02:33:45.300 we might because black women from what i've seen they tend to break up with the kid's dad like a
02:33:50.340 lot of times even before the kids they might have never been together yep white women will get
02:33:54.420 married but when that kid gets to preschool you're cooked fellas your youngest however many kids she
02:33:59.780 wants once you once your youngest one's in preschool um your life is about to be ruined
02:34:05.860 and um i there's the occasional man that does figure out his way around it um you know donovan's
02:34:12.100 one of them uh but uh you know donovan had to do like a decade of work and like who wants to do
02:34:19.620 all that oh wait a minute yeah yeah it was it listen the work the work still it's never it is
02:34:26.680 a never-ending process being married being in a good strong solid relationship it never stops but
02:34:33.180 what pearl is talking about it took a it took a long time to rid my wife of her attention seeking
02:34:40.340 behaviors it wasn't easy but it was worth it and my life is so much better than it ever was running
02:34:46.240 through hoes in vegas oh my god okay okay next up is athena you want me to read the question again
02:34:52.540 or oh no um i i pretty much agree with pearl i understand like the population in the united
02:35:01.140 states is decreasing like we need people to have kids we need people to get married and have kids
02:35:06.380 so the i'm i understand what you're saying and i understand that there are a lot of issues and we
02:35:14.080 need to essentially get down to the bottom of it. I would say any woman who says, I don't need a man
02:35:19.660 or I don't respect men or anything along those lines, I would just move on. And I would ask
02:35:25.940 those questions really early. And honestly, even for just sleeping with them, I wouldn't even do
02:35:33.760 that because attention is like a woman's currency. Well, yeah, that too. But attention is like a
02:35:41.180 woman's currency so if you just deprive them of what it is that they want the most they will
02:35:47.540 start acting right they'll start correcting themselves even if it's um temporarily i i think
02:35:54.240 a lot of people have uh compared it to like a mind virus and i actually used to have a little
02:35:59.580 more contention with pearl until i got on tiktok i said i would never get on tiktok finally got on
02:36:05.440 tiktok and then i was like oh dang society's good it's like this is bad this is really bad um so i
02:36:13.020 would just say really look at her past listen to what she says uh get to know her family um trust
02:36:20.880 the patterns trust the red flags don't you know they say post-nut clarity is a thing so you know
02:36:26.680 maybe wake up before and then go on your date and like if she's not okay with a coffee date keep it
02:36:33.580 moving um most most men or most good women they're okay with a coffee date they're okay
02:36:39.660 actually the cutest date that i saw recently was meeting up for coffee and doing a puzzle
02:36:45.100 together i thought that was adorable but yeah i'll i'll land my plane there okay okay okay dr
02:36:51.720 william james um yeah so i believe the question was what can black men do with a group of women
02:37:02.000 who don't see men as necessary fathers husbands or men in general as necessary um you can't do
02:37:10.960 nothing with a woman that doesn't see a father or husband you know or men in general as necessary
02:37:16.240 because they don't see you as necessary so then you have to deal with um that masculine behavior
02:37:21.380 that men aren't attracted to which is to you know what kevin sims used to talk about and um you know
02:37:28.280 what other people, even I in this, what they call a manosphere, I talk about. That's something we
02:37:35.220 have to fix, as Pearl said, across the board, but we have to fix it in the Black community. I focus
02:37:40.300 on speaking to the Black community, and we got a lot of Black women out here who need to fix this
02:37:44.360 behavior. A lot of women tend to look for the bad boy first, and I did a video about this I posted
02:37:50.280 today. There's Black women out there, like Ciara, who they go for the bad boy first, and then after
02:37:56.780 they get ran through or after they get pregnant by you know a pookie or ray ray now they want to go to
02:38:03.580 you know a black guy who's like this russell wilson type of square dude who will accept them
02:38:09.500 um a simp we call it that will accept them and their child from their previous relationship
02:38:15.180 or relationships um it usually comes down to that uh so uh as athena was just saying you know we
02:38:23.180 got to do a better job at weeding them out and you have to get to know them and see their
02:38:28.460 personality look for those red flags a lot of the red flags you know jump out at you you know
02:38:34.140 i always say pay attention to things like those super long nails is a red flag to me
02:38:39.260 they have all of these tattoos all over especially you know in those red
02:38:42.940 red flag spots you know those tramp stamps those ones in the middle of the chest the one right
02:38:48.700 those ones right on their thigh the septum piercing oh my god those piercings yeah the
02:38:54.940 the bull what's it the bull ringer bull nose uh even when they get those what they call it
02:39:00.860 a bridge or the bar thing straight through there i'll pay attention to all of that before i even
02:39:05.180 get to speaking to them obviously if they're dressed half naked that lets you know where
02:39:09.100 their mind is at um but yeah you have to just pay attention to all of these red flags and um
02:39:15.020 you know think with your brain and not your you know what yeah so uh i pay attention to all of
02:39:21.900 that uh you know you gotta i tell men to look for the red flags look at what type of music they like
02:39:28.060 look at their hobbies look at their interests look at who they like on this on this podcast
02:39:33.740 um you know universe type of thing you know if she's uh you know she gets mad if you bring up
02:39:38.620 kevin samber's that that's a sign real time she gets mad um if you bring up pearl davis it's a
02:39:46.940 sign no even even with me being in this space now i'm sort of glad even though you have to watch
02:39:55.500 uh people's ulterior motives but i like that they can google me or go on my instagram or go on
02:40:00.460 youtube and see interviews that i've done and see how i talk because then that weeds them out anyway
02:40:04.780 there we go because when i'm speaking like this they'll see also you on this panel saying like oh
02:40:09.160 women shouldn't just dress like this or women shouldn't be twerking and all this stuff and
02:40:12.820 then the modern feminist comes out of them they can't help you know you just got to look for that
02:40:18.160 and weed them out okay next time oh man well um i just have this little visual here oh my god
02:40:27.320 where this is this is women saying i don't i don't need a man i don't need a man i just need
02:40:33.340 all men to pay me through the government let's go this is great dude you should get down a little
02:40:41.340 bit please like give us the how and the why well i mean like this is when you let women vote they
02:40:47.580 vote to get to give everybody stuff for free but there's no such thing as free so it has to come
02:40:52.860 from someone and if it comes from someone it has to come from the people who are working and the
02:40:56.620 people who are working are men because women just like take care of children in the elderly and uh
02:41:01.740 buy starbucks and go to lululemon and so men have to pay even though they don't have wives and they
02:41:09.100 just go oh and they pay pay pay pay pay and they get nothing wait you could do this with black
02:41:14.460 people and white people where they say we don't need that's exactly true hang on hang on let me
02:41:21.020 I had a producer who's, um, his grandma was from, um, Zimbabwe and he, she lived under
02:41:32.840 colonization and she said she wanted it back. She said she missed colonization. Oh, wow.
02:41:40.980 I got it.
02:41:42.060 Well, don't white men pay like 80% of the taxes.
02:41:45.500 Yeah. White men are paying everybody's bills in America and it's, we don't want to,
02:41:49.900 We don't want to, but if we don't do it, then the government
02:41:52.140 murders us.
02:41:54.760 Home app is the man, dude.
02:41:56.320 Straight up. Let's go.
02:41:59.780 Listen, I don't know how I'm going to follow that up, but I'll say
02:42:02.220 Hold on. Hold on.
02:42:03.900 Are you done, Home app?
02:42:07.760 Yeah, I'm all set.
02:42:09.700 Go ahead.
02:42:13.140 Question about the
02:42:13.980 I mean,
02:42:15.760 what was the question again?
02:42:17.420 the question was yeah why should black date black no no no well i mean that's pretty much
02:42:22.980 the context but how can men black men in particular have long-term relationships or
02:42:28.760 marriages and have children with a group of women that see fathers and husbands as
02:42:33.660 unnecessary or men in general as unnecessary um i from my understanding it it kind of the
02:42:44.120 the chicken came before the egg like the there were uh uh it was common that black men within
02:42:52.920 the community were not uh as likely to like stick around and follow
02:42:58.840 and then women came up with it well let me let me finish for the process because i'm saying
02:43:05.720 my my understanding is that that came first and then the women's mentality became all right fine
02:43:11.320 if you're not going to stick around we're going to become independent and we're gonna we're gonna
02:43:16.920 you know just take care of ourselves and then that came the mantra we don't need men because
02:43:22.120 we're able to take care of ourselves okay black people were married at 80 80 85 percent rate up
02:43:31.160 until 1970s okay what you're talking about is a myth wait when did the 90s show the feminism
02:43:40.280 in the 90s mantra of that we don't need no man started in the early 2000s late 90s no it didn't
02:43:47.240 no it started way before that my friend before that guy started no no no no no black women were
02:43:53.080 given government benefits and they walked away from men first and not only that but but in the
02:43:59.400 70s when public schools opened up black men were pushed to trade jobs and factory jobs and black
02:44:05.720 women were pushed to colleges so by the late 80s and the 90s when manufacturing
02:44:13.480 was being pushed out you had affirmative action counting black women as double
02:44:18.760 minorities putting them in white collar jobs black men had to catch up really really fast
02:44:23.720 black women chose government benefits benefits and being single mothers over their men they're the
02:44:29.480 only female group in mass to choose that over their men when pearl said the best when women
02:44:36.520 have choice they choose the worst thing for them women have choice and they choose to be whores
02:44:41.480 black women had choice and they choose to they chose to leave their men behind and you're
02:44:45.480 perpetuating this trope that oh yeah black women had to get it black men have always made more money
02:44:53.080 than black women they do so now we work harder we work longer we die sooner black women are not the
02:44:59.400 backbone of the black community never have been never will be it's black men's hard work sweat
02:45:04.600 and tears that freaking have the black community on life support as it is right now so stop
02:45:10.120 perpetuating these tropes tom you have no idea what you're talking about i mean yeah i would
02:45:13.320 have to see something that i don't have to i've lived it because when you don't say well i i grew
02:45:19.000 up in an all-black neighborhood in new york i live in atlanta around all black people as well
02:45:23.880 i i don't know where you're getting this from but yes the the historically the chicken did seem to
02:45:31.560 come before the egg and that there was fatherlessness that came first and then black
02:45:36.440 men started and and no no it's not it's not just black men like there is like a uh a culture of
02:45:43.560 like getting somebody pregnant and the women and the man weren't ready for uh marriage which is
02:45:49.400 why black women also have like insanely high uh abortion rates i think there was a couple years
02:45:55.480 ago where there went about 10 years you interpret this data so favorable towards women well it's not
02:46:05.640 about favorability i'm saying i'm talking about you keep you keep explaining it you keep explaining
02:46:10.760 it as if like it's our fault yeah like as if the women were just like these innocent i'm sorry
02:46:19.080 i'm not talking about false i'm talking about facts no but that's what you are that's what
02:46:23.480 you're doing what you're what you were essentially doing is you're saying well i don't need a man
02:46:27.800 didn't come from women themselves men we don't give a we don't care how long it's been around
02:46:33.080 we care that it's around i'll answer the let me answer uh cpa's question here uh how can we marry
02:46:39.480 group of women who have this permanent who who have this uh negative stereo this negative view
02:46:44.840 they were men and husbands are not necessary um number one you can't be with a woman who sees you
02:46:49.960 as unnecessary that's just all there is to it um number two uh athena's coffee date analogy this
02:46:56.360 is the that is the perfect analogy a coffee and i want you guys to pay attention a coffee date is
02:47:00.680 a test drive okay if a woman does not if a woman tells you she doesn't want to go on a coffee date
02:47:05.720 What she is essentially telling you is that she knows that she's not going to measure up.
02:47:09.820 So she wants to get her cash and prizes before you figure out that she ain't shit.
02:47:14.780 That's why they, this is why women reject coffee dates.
02:47:18.200 A coffee date, like I said, is a test drive.
02:47:20.160 You get to see if you actually can, if you actually like this girl's company.
02:47:24.340 But girls don't like coffee dates because it allows you to see what's under the hood.
02:47:27.860 They don't want you to see what's under the hood until you've committed.
02:47:30.840 And here's the, here's the last thing.
02:47:32.160 this is the this is the problem with baby mama culture is that modern women have higher they
02:47:37.640 have higher standards for their bait i'm sorry they have higher standards for their stepdaddies
02:47:42.440 than they do their baby daddies which is why better than three out of four black women in
02:47:47.100 the black community are baby mamas because they have higher standards for their stepdaddies
02:47:50.720 than they do for their baby daddies than they do for their baby daddy sierra okay i feel like
02:47:57.240 earlier you guys were talking about like not allowing people to be accountable and making
02:48:01.060 excuses but i feel like that's exactly what's happening right now where we're talking about
02:48:04.340 a problem that exists that perpetuates other problems and you're making excuses so that
02:48:08.660 there is no accountability okay fine you're right we're wrong let's just have the conversation
02:48:11.940 instead of talking about it okay i'm gonna um i'm gonna what do you say i'm gonna read the
02:48:18.340 super chats really quick yeah make sure to show the supersets like girl you're on as you read them
02:48:23.620 i can't um do it once it's passed on the right okay like that's why i'm not doing it if you go
02:48:29.780 to starred you can see all of them oh really yes if you you see where it says live in the chat and
02:48:35.780 then you go over to star yeah you'll see every super chat from the very start that's so awesome
02:48:41.140 thank you okay where men make their mistake is expecting women to use logic it's not in their
02:48:46.580 nature to do so this is why they shouldn't vote attitudes towards blacks in america was far more
02:48:51.700 malign if you're only fatigued now then that's happily acceptable it's why the topic is all
02:48:55.540 shock value and dumb i don't show you how you'll shock us next i understand why you think that i
02:49:01.140 really do but i'm telling you when i left england black people just fatigued me too hard i was done
02:49:07.140 i never saw race until they made me yeah but you call you call white people colonizers and racists
02:49:14.500 like you do that for a decade it's like what do you play that instagram reel before we go about
02:49:20.580 that one yeah let me get through it um proverbs 31 3 don't give your strength to a woman that
02:49:27.460 um and that which destroys kings believing other groups experiences too i mean i'd maybe believe
02:49:34.900 men's experiences but like like imagine if i just believed women's experiences like your group has
02:49:41.860 to have a reputation for being honest yeah and like so like if i believed women's experience it
02:49:47.300 it would be like, oh, I get raped every other day.
02:49:51.480 And then, you know, it's like,
02:49:53.940 so I actually don't think I have to believe every groups or not.
02:49:59.440 Everyone tells the truth.
02:50:00.540 Not all like, not all groups tell the truth equally.
02:50:03.600 And I would just put men way above women.
02:50:07.200 So if all women,
02:50:08.980 if a woman is available after 25 and not a widow, she's cooked.
02:50:12.880 Ninja culture, definitely over my next Latina.
02:50:16.080 i get i'm out on god interesting okay that's all of the um okay um sorry oh matthew welcome to go
02:50:26.160 while i pull up the next video welcome to what yeah didn't you have something you wanted to add
02:50:31.060 or i mean i i usually have something i want to add i just always forget what it is
02:50:35.460 what's what's that on your paper now what is that well i'm pointing to the we were just talking
02:50:40.140 about how how women pick the bad boy to reproduce with and then pick the good guy to pay them money
02:50:45.100 later and i just have this all mapped out that's right no feminism's a strategy so women can bang
02:50:50.380 hot guys yes and have other men pay for it yeah feminism feminism is getting pregnant with the
02:50:56.460 bad boy i have a little sword here and then getting the good guy to pay for it with his money
02:51:01.660 and like i've been i've been been both of these guys yes i ideally what we're supposed to do is
02:51:08.060 get each woman to agree to be with a man who's enough of both but we don't want to do that
02:51:12.780 anymore women want to split it men don't want to split it and women want to we're gonna close out
02:51:19.180 the show and watching this video about why probably most gen z white people are racist
02:51:25.260 is because black people treated us like for no reason y'all's millennial parents raised you to
02:51:31.100 be racist to white people and so you go out into the world treating white people like crap and
02:51:35.820 you're shocked to your freaking core when white people don't like you and black people like to
02:51:41.100 act like this just doesn't make any sense they're like hmm we've treated young white people like
02:51:47.420 shit for their entire life i wonder why they're growing resentment but if a if a black person
02:51:54.860 experiences racism for their entire life which is not even probably one percent of what white
02:52:00.060 people experience black people don't even get real racism okay white people are the ones who
02:52:04.820 experience racism the black people get like the minute racism and they're like freaking out
02:52:09.500 white people just deal with it it's pattern recognition man it comes from somewhere
02:52:15.260 you gotta accept accountability the honest truth about why probably most
02:52:19.880 damn she dropped facts there you go that was pretty good what's her number
02:52:24.800 okay so let's so let's wrap things up here because we're coming up on three
02:52:39.320 hours we're going to have we're going to have we're going to pearl athena dr william james
02:52:45.960 homeath tomfoolery donna if it can close out okay okay well my final thoughts are that white people
02:52:55.640 didn't ask to be fatigued but black people's behavior has indeed made us fatigued and while
02:53:02.280 you can point to studies and say that there are systemic racism i think that you can make a study
02:53:08.440 or a stat or a fact or data and statistics say pretty much anything um and black people will
02:53:15.480 always cite sources to make it seem like they're the victim they also do this in their personal
02:53:21.320 lives um i've seen it at work i've seen it with black people i was friends with and it's not all
02:53:27.320 but it's significant enough that white people are fatigued um the only group of black people i did
02:53:33.800 not see that had this set of behaviors are surprisingly the ones from actual africa
02:53:39.400 i don't know why but when they came to the the ones i met in the uk just were not about
02:53:43.400 this racism stuff they said you guys don't know about racism they said my grandma was
02:53:49.160 actually under colonization um that was their experience that's what they said so i don't know
02:53:55.560 um anyways yeah i don't think white people wanted to be fatigued it's just black people
02:54:01.480 kept committing crimes and doing things that were very unruly. But I appreciate this panel
02:54:07.460 because nobody on this panel made me fatigued except the girl I kicked earlier.
02:54:13.080 Oh, that was a lot of fatigue. Okay. Athena?
02:54:19.220 I'll say that I don't feel like I'm well-versed on this subject. I'm still trying to learn a
02:54:25.300 bit more about it um but i i see issues on both sides so i think i just need to do a little more
02:54:33.380 research on things and see you know how i feel about it um i definitely call out what i can i
02:54:39.620 don't feel like i got to add much to the panel um i try to be respectful and not interrupt but um
02:54:47.060 i normally focus on anti-feminism but it was still uh lovely to be here so thank you
02:54:53.060 and she she booked like half this panel so shout out to athena the very few women women that
02:54:59.860 actually brought me value into my life thank you okay dr william james final thoughts um
02:55:08.500 my final thoughts when we have these discussions i like to always be rooted in data facts
02:55:12.660 statistics no matter what topic i'm discussing um i think that's the only way we can move the needle
02:55:17.460 and then get anywhere with these types of discussions otherwise we're just dealing with
02:55:21.540 person's opinions and their anecdotal experiences. And you can take it as truth or not. But you can't
02:55:30.820 really twist certain facts and statistics. Facts are facts. There's tier one sources,
02:55:36.260 there's tier two sources, and there's .org, there's .edu, there's real studies. It's just
02:55:43.380 like if we look at a DSM-5 where they have real professionals that conduct their research
02:55:48.100 to come up with facts that we can use to analyze and um you know look at actual experiences
02:55:55.140 and data so even when we look at you know real experiences um we can't ignore the fact that
02:56:02.020 there are really billion dollar companies being sued like wells fargo for racism and hiring and
02:56:10.420 banking so you know that's a systemic issue we can't ignore redlining we can't ignore the history
02:56:16.260 that shows that there are real issues just like when we see these modern women and these modern
02:56:20.900 feminists how they're impacting marriage and certain things today percentage wise we look
02:56:29.060 at the data facts and statistics we see that it's a negative the modern feminist movement
02:56:34.100 so i like to stay rooted in that and um i think that's you know the best thing that
02:56:39.220 we could do with these discussions how math oh man well um one thing that i was trying to say
02:56:48.500 earlier i didn't get the chance to is that the plural of anecdote is data it wrote anic data here
02:56:55.460 and facts can be wrong but feelings cannot and when a whole bunch of people start telling you
02:57:02.180 about their feelings and you tell them that they're wrong that's just you're wrong because
02:57:06.420 people's feelings can never be wrong. What's going on in our culture right now is feelings-based,
02:57:12.920 and the data-based part of it doesn't invalidate that, and I think that's what people should really
02:57:19.160 be focusing on. We have a lot of discomfort, you know, with each other. As things become more,
02:57:30.700 as different groups start to mix, we have problems with each other, and when you point out data and
02:57:35.860 say oh this is here why you shouldn't feel that way that's kind of what i want to focus on you
02:57:42.460 can't tell people why they shouldn't feel a certain way um that is i think what we should
02:57:50.300 be focusing on is what people want and not rather what's true it's a lot harder to tell what's true
02:57:55.380 than it is to tell what people want.
02:57:59.680 Okay.
02:58:02.280 Tom Fuller, go ahead.
02:58:06.680 You're on mute.
02:58:08.140 Yeah, sorry.
02:58:08.900 My computer's lagging a little bit.
02:58:11.780 So I think I generally try to like
02:58:14.640 base all of my opinions based off of studies
02:58:17.360 or the way that I think about something.
02:58:19.360 I might have feelings based on my own anecdotal experiences,
02:58:23.080 But I don't try to like project that onto overall groups as though if I've engaged with 300 black people that this is representative of, you know, 70 million black people or anything like that.
02:58:36.400 I think studies, because they're done with peer review processes and scientific processes, this makes it to where they are trustworthy and then people's own random experiences that they have, whether even if if me and another person both have very drastically different experiences where they say, hey, every single Latino that I engage with is the nicest person ever.
02:58:59.000 And I say every Latino that I engage with is the meanest person ever.
02:59:03.120 There has to be some way for us to come to a consensus.
02:59:06.000 And generally, it's going to be some third-party scientific consensus that exists that we should be relying on instead.
02:59:12.920 But I think that a lot of times people just pick and choose studies based on whether or not it aligns with their feelings.
02:59:18.580 Their feelings comes first, and then they choose the studies that they want to cite based on their feelings.
02:59:23.640 But if we just play TikTok videos that say the things that we like or TikTok videos that show the anecdotes that we like, this doesn't really give us a real perspective.
02:59:34.000 I think that there are – I debate black people all the time who cry about racism all the time, who say that all white people are racist.
02:59:40.200 They use the colonizer narratives.
02:59:42.140 They talk about the CRT academia and shit like that.
02:59:46.580 I think these people are fucking nuts.
02:59:48.200 I think that they are insane.
02:59:49.500 I can't stand a lot of the shit that they say because they overly generalize what it is that
02:59:54.660 they've seen in movies or in their own experiences. But I think the black fatigue narrative is just
03:00:01.380 the other side of the same coin, where it's a bunch of people saying a bunch of crazy shit and
03:00:07.080 just whining and crying about their own anecdotal experiences with people and kind of overly
03:00:12.140 generalizing people in a way that doesn't actually align with reality.
03:00:16.640 well yeah you want because you want to be the interpreter of reality yeah that's how what the
03:00:22.680 academics want to do it's like ultimate gaslight anyways um yes or studies not me listen man let
03:00:31.900 me just address tom here uh quickly dude this look man i understand why you say what you say
03:00:38.120 but you don't have to you don't have to have experience with 300 000 black people to get
03:00:42.840 black fatigue okay and it's not just our own one is enough you know what i'm saying like like
03:00:48.900 honestly like at this point like and and you don't have to you don't it just because you don't have
03:00:54.440 to have just your opinions on anecdotal experience because there are other people who are giving
03:00:59.260 their anecdotal experiences on tiktok on twitter on youtube tom i would strongly advise you to go
03:01:05.860 and watch tiktok videos and youtube and twitter about black fatigue there are black people running
03:01:11.360 around just hitting white people for no good reason little kids in the schoolyard i saw a video
03:01:16.040 dude there are too many to name i saw a video where a group of black football players ganged up
03:01:20.920 on a white kid in south carolina in the dorm and beat the shit out of him just because he was white
03:01:25.700 thank god the kid recorded the video there anyway black people are the most fatigued and the reason
03:01:31.060 why black people are the most fatigued is because we're the ones that have to indirectly pay the
03:01:35.200 price for the behavior of niggas okay i live in a gated community i live in a gated community
03:01:40.840 because i don't want to be around niggas okay the walmart and target in my neighborhood we don't
03:01:45.960 have anything locked up because there are literally no niggas that live here and as far as dr james
03:01:51.640 and do respect dr james data and statistics and statistics you're smart enough to know that they
03:01:55.560 can be made to say whatever you want you can get them from dot org or dot co or dot whatever they
03:02:00.760 can be made to say whatever you want and this is exactly what tom foolery just said you can look
03:02:04.920 it's facts and statistics that only back up your feelings so then there's that but then you think
03:02:11.240 about this people who are victims of black fatigue they ain't trying to hear about tier one or tier
03:02:16.120 two sources okay they see this they live this every day and they're not they're not about to
03:02:20.760 say well well i guess black fatigue isn't real no black fatigue is real and a black person robbed
03:02:26.600 me but look at my tier two source my boyfriend got his truck stolen by him it's ridiculous and
03:02:33.880 And listen, okay, and so Wells Fargo's being sued.
03:02:36.680 So fucking what?
03:02:38.160 If Wells Fargo is doing redlining, then go bank with somebody else.
03:02:41.780 Why in the world are we trying to go where we're not appreciated?
03:02:44.520 If Wells Fargo really was that racist, then what the fuck are we trying to be at Wells Fargo for anyway?
03:02:49.060 Big fucking deal.
03:02:50.280 Number three, redlining was ancient fucking history.
03:02:52.880 And black people are using the shit that happened in the past as an excuse for this nigga behavior.
03:02:57.360 And again, Dr. James, do respect.
03:02:59.200 You appear to be red-pilled on women, but my friend, you are not red-pilled on race.
03:03:02.940 And the sooner you admit to the fact that niggas are ruining black culture, the better off we'll all be.
03:03:08.160 And that's all I got.
03:03:09.220 Okay, so my closing statement is, I told you, I've been black for over 40 years.
03:03:15.640 What?
03:03:16.160 You know, I've been, you know, I was too white for the black people, and thank God for that.
03:03:20.600 I wear that as a badge of honor.
03:03:23.160 Black people have made my version of blackness, they've made my version of blackness my problem my whole life.
03:03:30.140 i don't understand why black people feel the necessary to take up space be loud and disturb
03:03:35.000 the pieces it's not about crime it's about why is it that the the meanest nastiest person at
03:03:41.180 every workplace is a black woman that you have to call miss quantity or miss something or other
03:03:47.480 why and then oh yeah oh yeah it's just how she is why is it that the black single mother has to
03:03:54.200 come to the school and raise hell at the teacher who's just trying to who's trying to put some
03:03:58.880 discipline in her child when she won't do it at herself why is it we go on tick tock we know that
03:04:04.880 there are more white people on food stamps than black people but the only only people on
03:04:10.320 on social media saying if i don't get my food stamps i'm gonna rob somebody are black women
03:04:15.680 why is this why we have this incessant need to take up space disturb the peace make ourselves be
03:04:23.440 heard why no white people are tired of it there's a certain level of decorum and respect you have to
03:04:30.720 have to to live in society and in certain parts of america and this and one last thing if you're
03:04:39.360 a black person who's worth a damn your parents have the conversation with you having having to
03:04:44.000 learn how to play the game to get to where you want to be and that was understood up until about
03:04:49.600 you know people right around 35 understand this but the new there's a group of black people
03:04:55.600 especially younger younger you get you don't understand that you have to play the game first
03:05:00.400 and they don't want to play the game anymore they don't want to they don't want to conform
03:05:05.600 and just like do what's necessary to fit in fit in first get to a position where you can make a
03:05:11.680 change and then do that but don't walk around making noise yelling screaming it's not just
03:05:15.520 about crime it's about that unquantifiable just fatigue that black people are causing on white
03:05:21.760 people and i'm here for it man i've had black people fatigue my whole life and i'm glad that
03:05:27.200 people like pearl and white america is finally starting to speak out about it black people
03:05:33.840 have been punching a social credit card for the past 15 20 years and the bill is due right
03:05:40.720 okay i'm going to read this last super chat six decades of experience with fatigue but the study
03:05:47.440 from a dei written academic setters center says i'm wrong so oh well he also a messaged me and
03:05:54.320 says have he wanted to super chat this but it got um blocked having um having herpes is largely an
03:06:02.320 answer to the question do you date black women just oh snap fatigued people pro fessing utter
03:06:09.520 bewilderment why people are fatigued tells the whole story thanks okay um well thank you guys
03:06:15.760 all for coming um even if you disagreed i thought you were all really respectful and good sports
03:06:20.080 we'd like to have you back so um thanks for coming and i'm just gonna kick you guys now
03:06:26.080 and then do final thoughts with doug so i appreciate it thank you guys all right um
03:06:34.160 that was cool doug i think i think we'll make this a regular thing you know
03:06:38.640 yeah like four people instead of six maybe yeah i think there's some changes like less people
03:06:44.720 and um i you know i would have helped if i had given you muting power before the show but i just
03:06:50.160 could not figure out how to do it during so we'll figure that out for next time but i think this is
03:06:55.040 a good me being petty you know might have started something cool you know what it is you're hanging
03:07:01.520 out with one of those petty people on the planet i live that petty life man i'm telling you i will
03:07:07.200 always encourage you to be petty yeah but i think this is a good thing going um i don't know i was
03:07:14.480 gonna tell athena i'm like athena you can come on every week if you book these panels yeah i'm like
03:07:20.560 if you if you work with us to book the panel you can come on weekly i don't care she's a great
03:07:25.360 panelists do you have her her contact information because i'll um we can tailor show the that'll be
03:07:31.160 more to her strengths yeah that'd be great yeah she was fantastic but everyone was pretty respectful
03:07:37.000 except for the person that we would think wouldn't be i mean come on yeah yeah and thank you for
03:07:43.860 for bringing her back i told you to bring her back up because i wanted to see her reaction to
03:07:47.960 the herpes question but she crashed out like i thought that she'd crash out so yeah you know
03:07:52.320 what i just said i'm emailed you or contact you know i will if um i will um kick people off if
03:08:04.520 they're just really annoying even if i can't describe why so be warned swan reached out and
03:08:10.140 said that she she messes them and she's taking accountability smoothie queen she said that she's
03:08:16.580 backstage waiting to be added back she's willing to talk when when it's her turn i said we'll let
03:08:21.240 her back on next time she needs to learn a lesson about main character syndrome she's not the main
03:08:25.320 character i don't really know because i just don't feel like talking to her again like i don't know
03:08:32.800 how to put it like um you guys like you have to understand part of like women do this they're just
03:08:40.020 really unlikable towards you and she wasn't even the worst one but my tolerance is just getting
03:08:45.400 lila rose made it last and then you know it's so funny you're like okay let's just never talk again
03:08:52.580 and then they're like but i want to talk and you're like
03:08:56.120 i think that's like women they just torture you she's i'd consider giving her another chance i'd
03:09:03.960 consider it and here's the thing um i love this arc that's your own pro i love it because you've
03:09:12.400 been wanting to talk about this and share your feelings i didn't think we'd ever be at this
03:09:16.460 point where you could share your feelings about this at after what happened to you in london
03:09:22.420 and now you know thank god for trump and these media companies pressuring them and finding out
03:09:28.440 that certain people's voices were censored and stuff but i'm telling you pearl has the gloves
03:09:34.060 off guys yeah you made me a villain i just want you to know mtr sarah you guys you guys i you
03:09:44.060 guys made me a villain yep you're on my list forever and this is only the beginning the trump
03:09:52.860 is going to be in office for for three more years so who we have what three more years before you
03:09:57.420 have to be worried again all right guys i'm tired i gotta go um i think this is gonna be a regular
03:10:05.500 thing so um yeah this is my villain arc love you guys thanks for watching um i think we're gonna
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