Pearl - Candace Owens Debates Feminists

00:00:00.000 because men are useless this headline from the hill it caught my eye most young men are single

00:00:07.280 most young women are not young men have fallen faster than any demographic in america over the

00:00:12.480 last 40 years it's a different world now like we don't need men the way that they used to

00:00:17.600 the future is female men and women are drifting further apart and society is crumbling because of

00:00:26.400 bit. A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage. You've kind of got the

00:00:31.360 trad con versus red pill thing. This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other

00:00:36.480 way. You need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men. Marriage is a

00:00:41.860 bond and it's a sacred bond. It's a machine designed to extract resources from you. Now many

00:00:47.000 of the red pill have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married. Hannah Pearl Davis or

00:00:53.640 just pearly things one of the most controversial faces in all of the internet she goes on to say

00:00:59.680 that marriage is a terrible deal for men because if me and you were in a business contract you

00:01:04.020 would never sign a contract where i am paid to leave gee what could go wrong there 74 percent

00:01:09.940 or something of divorces are initiated by women men have everything to lose primarily their own

00:01:14.800 children men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws i had no idea that courts of family

00:01:20.600 law were courts of equity not courts of law because in family court you don't need evidence

00:01:25.000 to accuse someone of abuse you need no evidence when you guys say get married young a lot of these

00:01:29.400 men don't know what they're signing up for and you're not going to be there when their entire

00:01:32.920 life falls apart i interview them on the other side i didn't meet my son until he was 15 months

00:01:38.760 old how much did you spend trying to get him back the legal fees alone was about 200 000 before you

00:01:44.120 know it you're homeless you're literally just thrown out onto the street we absolutely reinforce

00:01:48.360 bad behavior from women wives are taught to leave their husbands and then daughters grow up without

00:01:53.000 their fathers family is the foundation of society every problem in society comes from single mother

00:01:58.280 homes a lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole of happiness endless happiness

00:02:02.920 feminism's biggest failures is it lies to women we tell women to date as many guys as possible

00:02:06.760 we tell them to put off family into marriage you are allowed to leave your perfect husband you are

00:02:11.640 allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend oh freeze your eggs have an abortion

00:02:17.560 what you're evil i don't think there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into

00:02:21.400 preparing to fail like if you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic

00:02:26.840 naturally the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail anyway it's self-sabotage that's

00:02:30.680 the thing like women are so willing to leave marriages because they're not happy this is not

00:02:34.840 about happiness the most important thing is the children and the problem is we have a modern

00:02:39.880 society where it's me me me my feelings leave when i feel like it instead of doing what's best for the

00:02:45.560 kids this myth that we live in an age of male privilege where's my male privilege they think

00:02:51.160 well men have all the rights they have all the power privilege patriarchal system that we have

00:02:55.720 why doesn't our society care about men's rights i have no friends no way and no social life men

00:03:01.880 are alone in this situation men are homeless men are thinking about eating guns i've seen so many

00:03:07.160 men on on the brink of suicide and they didn't do anything wrong how are you equal if the men

00:03:13.080 are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country the men are the ones that

00:03:17.400 build and maintain all the infrastructure women are helplessly dependent upon men the so-called

00:03:23.080 deaths of despair from suicide overdose to alcohol three times higher among men than among women

00:03:29.640 culture is telling men you are no good you got to get your act together i think men have failed

00:03:33.720 themselves what kind of a man are you what kind of a woman are you going to attract if men are

00:03:38.520 in trouble so are women everybody knows this is a huge problem but nobody wants to admit it

00:03:43.880 every single woman at the table said they wanted a man 500k 500k 300k 200k am i crazy everything

00:03:49.760 is really set up against you to fail as a man if men make less than women women don't want to

00:03:54.600 marry them so you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men women i don't want to

00:04:01.440 be an independent woman anymore i don't want to be a strong independent woman i'm over it when is

00:04:06.640 it going to be my turn? Where are we meeting the men that don't stop? I can't keep having these

00:04:10.640 same conversations. The only simp here is you, Pearl. You simp for men. No, I think you simp

00:04:14.900 for women. She's a provocateur. She says stupid stuff, but Pearl is right about this. It's already

00:04:19.240 happening. It's just not out in the open yet. Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our

00:04:23.240 fairy tale ending because men don't want a wife and women can't find a husband. The future,

00:04:28.220 if everybody follows your path, is there is no future. We go into population decline and our

00:04:33.160 economy goes into decline. Civilization will crumble. The American story does not end well.

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00:05:49.740 essentially it's going to be a learning community and yeah all right anyway so today we are going

00:05:56.680 to be reacting to Candace Owens debating 20 feminists. Now, there's a point where

00:06:08.780 you realize that conservative women, so-called conservative women, aren't,

00:06:16.800 we're not as much different, um, than liberal women, as I think maybe a lot of us would like

00:06:24.020 to believe um because you see these blue-haired feminists and you think well i'm not like that

00:06:30.900 you know i didn't you know do like a bonnie blue or lily phillips you know you know but

00:06:38.900 what i realized is the more women identify as conservative or really anything like they identify

00:06:45.380 as religious or i realized that you tend to get like a big ego from it you know you start to

00:06:54.020 you start to think you're different.

00:06:58.060 And I believe that's kind of the trap

00:07:00.660 that like Candace has fallen into.

00:07:04.280 She doesn't really realize how scary she is as a woman.

00:07:08.120 What she did to Crowder to me was terrifying.

00:07:12.920 And I think there's a lot of stuff she misses

00:07:17.660 because she's got a big ego.

00:07:20.180 I do really like her.

00:07:21.500 um on one hand i like her blm work but sometimes i think she's kind of fraudulent right because

00:07:30.060 i just don't really think she like she's what she's portraying herself to be i guess i'll say

00:07:36.220 it in that way so i felt like sorry this interview was a really good demonstration of it so we're

00:07:45.180 We're going to react to Candace Owens on Jubilee again.

00:07:49.580 So let's go.

00:07:51.260 They don't want to stay at home when you pull them.

00:07:52.780 They just want flexible working hours and flexible working conditions like you have.

00:07:56.540 And I think we should all advocate for that.

00:07:58.200 It's not one or the other.

00:07:59.140 But when you sit here and you go, you'll be more fulfilled doing this and spend all your time doing that.

00:08:02.860 We would love for you to leave the public eye and go focus on what makes you fulfilled.

00:08:06.600 Okay.

00:08:08.440 Hi, my name is Candace Owens.

00:08:09.960 I am a podcaster, a mother, a wife, and also the author of the upcoming book.

00:08:14.820 So people kind of subtly tell on themselves, what was the first thing she said when she

00:08:24.460 introduced herself?

00:08:26.180 I'm a podcaster.

00:08:28.220 It's very obvious that's the most important thing to her in her life.

00:08:32.100 I don't blame her.

00:08:34.080 You have to understand women are using every strategy in the book to get to have sex with

00:08:40.740 hot guys and have freedom.

00:08:42.500 That's that's what feminism at its core is fighting for.

00:08:46.180 It's I want to reproduce with the best guy I can instead of being saddled down with the

00:08:51.480 guy from my hometown.

00:08:53.440 And two, I want I don't want to be under his authority.

00:08:57.860 I want as much freedom as I can possibly have.

00:09:00.940 And I think we got to humanize women to some extent.

00:09:04.200 Can you blame Candace for wanting some sort of freedom where if the relationship's not

00:09:09.320 working in the future, she's going to want to bounce?

00:09:12.500 I'm trying to maybe take the morality out of it and just humanize people a little bit more.

00:09:22.800 Women aren't men. We don't do the right thing just because, right? So let me continue.

00:09:28.680 Make him a sandwich. And today I am surrounded by 20 feminists.

00:09:33.180 My first claim is that the sexual revolution has devalued women and made them infinitely

00:09:42.480 less happy. Okay. So I think that it does make women less happy when they hit 50,

00:09:53.400 but I would say that women are infinitely more happy in their twenties when they get worshiped

00:10:00.560 by a man invited to hang out with the highest level men on the planet.

00:10:06.740 Um, and just worshiped and invited to the best events.

00:10:10.100 That's what I think.

00:10:10.880 I think at 50 maybe, um, but at 20,

00:10:16.680 I would say the women are probably more happy today because they get all the

00:10:21.620 freedom and no responsibility.

00:10:23.840 Yeah.

00:10:30.560 Hi. Hello. Hi. Hi. I'm Samaya. Samaya. Nice to meet you. I'm Candace. Nice to meet you too.

00:10:40.480 So my question for you is, statistics show that 60% of women who are murdered are murdered by

00:10:47.920 their intimate partners, murdered by someone that they're... Yeah, that women pick.

00:10:53.280 So women pick... Women love violent men. Like, we pick them. So I got no sympathy.

00:11:00.560 sorry ladies, in close relations with. That's according to the UN from 2023. Yeah. So how is

00:11:07.960 it that, you know, women are so valued, you know, quote unquote in the home and yet that's the place

00:11:13.860 where they're at the most danger? Okay. So I'm not sure what that has to do with the sexual

00:11:18.260 revolution. Right. The sexual revolution. The sexual revolution gave. I'm happy to answer it.

00:11:23.320 I'm just saying that, you know, if you brought in that statistic, you are more likely in general

00:11:28.160 just to be murdered by somebody you know so of course but men are much less likely to be murdered

00:11:32.500 by you know that's not true yes yeah i'm sure because men are less likely to be murdered by

00:11:38.540 women yeah exactly that statistic makes sense to me but women are more abusive than men women are

00:11:43.980 more violent far more violent the only reason women don't kill men as much is because we don't

00:11:49.220 have the strength to like if we could kill a guy with our hands can you imagine oh my god

00:11:54.300 Oh, my God. God, thank you for not giving us that power. I would be dead. I really would.

00:12:00.340 I'm still not sure how this correlates to whether or not the sexual revolution.

00:12:03.820 The sexual revolution increased women's ability to leave the house, women's ability to control

00:12:08.280 their own reproductive capabilities, women's ability to control their own capacity within

00:12:15.300 the workforce in regards to their own sexual capacity. So it is the very fact that the sexual

00:12:21.320 revolution happened that made our access to the workplace much more or just the public sphere in

00:12:27.560 general much more easy. So like without the sexual revolution, women would be much more confined to

00:12:34.620 the place where they're at the most danger. Isn't that true? So you think that just so I'm trying

00:12:39.680 to understand your argument here, you think that if we didn't have the sexual revolution, less women

00:12:43.960 or more women would be murdered? Are you saying that women are more women would be murdered for

00:12:47.440 sure okay oh yeah i do i actually agree with her i think there's a lot of laws that protect women

00:12:56.000 now and let us basically be super violent towards the men and if they were because the whole system

00:13:02.740 is based on the duluth model so women men are automatically seen as the aggressors because of

00:13:08.200 that model now basically the law lets women beat the shit out of men and men can't fight back

00:13:15.860 uh so yeah i do think a lot of women run their mouths and if it weren't for the

00:13:21.040 misandrist laws we have today they would be murdered yeah yep

00:13:25.340 yep so i'm gonna i'm gonna say where i agree and where i don't agree um i disagree with that

00:13:31.980 i still don't think it has anything to do with the claim that women are infinitely less happy

00:13:36.780 because of the sexual revolution which has i think you're probably less happy if you're being murdered

00:13:41.440 oh anyone disagree okay yeah i don't okay okay there is definitely a correlation between personal

00:13:50.700 relationships and domestic violence and just to be clear right if we're talking about just like

00:13:55.000 monogamous relationships the most violent relationships that are on the books are

00:13:58.580 between lesbian partners yes when people are intimate that's not that's not that is actually

00:14:03.040 true no the statistic you're talking about is people who have faced domestic violence lesbians

00:14:07.420 yes are more likely to have faced domestic violence but that's because they're this is

00:14:10.780 just that's why women can't argue it's like now we're just going with semantics it typically came

00:14:14.940 from relationships with men in which lesbian relationships are the most violent relationships

00:14:19.580 that we have on the book statistically they can fact check that claim the point being is that

00:14:22.940 it's not exactly a stunning statistic to say that when people are in relationships period whether

00:14:26.780 those relationships are homosexual whether you're saying that the sexual revolution let me finish

00:14:31.180 i've let you try to explain how this is correlated to happiness and i don't think it does i actually

00:14:35.420 think you're you're having a different debate right now but yes absolutely it makes perfect

00:14:40.460 sense that i think arguing about happiness is stupid i probably you know i've had a long career

00:14:46.700 i'm sure i've said stuff but i just don't think it's a good use of time uh because

00:14:59.180 happiness you know like some days i just wake up and i'm kind of down another day you know

00:15:04.620 Happiness is highly correlated to where women are in their cycles.

00:15:08.740 If I had to rate women's happiness based on their life outcomes, okay, this is what I believe.

00:15:14.760 Women married to alphas are on the top or that got commitment from an alpha.

00:15:20.140 Women that are childless, women that are married to betas.

00:15:23.960 Unfortunately, through women's actions, we see that women do not want to be married to betas.

00:15:29.640 They don't.

00:15:31.240 It's kind of sad.

00:15:32.540 it's not moral but like that's where you get when women it's like they crash out at 40 and they're

00:15:39.420 like uh i just missed out on so much and whatever and like they it's because they realize their

00:15:45.420 husband's not what they wanted unfortunately you are more likely in general when you are

00:15:51.420 in a relationship because people are driven by anger by people that they know whether or not

00:15:56.140 we're talking about boyfriend and girlfriend girlfriend and girlfriend uh you know a husband

00:16:00.940 and a wife yeah exactly most women would rather be single than married to a beta correct correct

00:16:06.860 and women crash out at like 30 28 35 whenever it hits them where they can't attract the attention

00:16:13.660 of alphas some women can hold on to it a little bit longer some hold on to it a little bit less

00:16:19.580 yeah so husband and a husband or a wife and a wife yes of course the instances of domestic

00:16:25.340 violence are going to take place when you're inside of a home but the sexual revolution

00:16:30.140 encouraging women to give up their goods for free which is what i'm speaking about and encouraging

00:16:34.140 men not to marry these women or to have long-term relationships what i am saying now candace

00:16:43.340 a funny thing happens when you're doing commentary um you see a lot of women that

00:16:49.340 do egregious things and i think the worst thing that you can do is think that you're like special

00:16:55.580 or different or whatever just because you have a different belief system i've learned i used to

00:17:01.420 think that women with conservative belief systems were very different and i think that's why i go

00:17:07.180 kind of hard against them now because i see now that they're the same candace owens um let's

00:17:17.100 i have a hard time believing that she has a body count less than five let's say

00:17:22.940 and i really think you can't how how many bodies would you say a woman can have where you can still

00:17:32.140 claim her to be like pure or innocent

00:17:34.440 personally i would say like three two maybe two three right

00:17:42.240 so but you expect me to believe like because this is how i think right

00:17:50.420 you were you did you really have a 100 relationship rate having sex you could be a

00:18:02.540 woman with very good intentions or bad intentions right so i have to believe that you never wanted

00:18:08.700 to have casual sex you always were going for relationships okay fine now let's say you were

00:18:15.160 always going for relationships you're telling me you had a 100 percent rate that you never got

00:18:20.420 pumped and dumped or ghosted how about zero look i'm just i'm just being realistic so the way i

00:18:33.960 would calculate i would i would ask when the girl started because i don't know some girls

00:18:41.020 start in middle school right some girls start in high school some girls start in college

00:18:44.720 some girls it's like delayed and i do see that with gen z they're like starting later but

00:18:49.500 the girl will go for the best guy at high school get pumped and dumped and then take

00:18:54.840 let's say let's say she has a 50 commitment rate which i would say for women is decently good

00:19:00.900 okay two in high school two in college um two in a major city every major city you've lived in

00:19:10.440 So we're going to do eight dudes because I think she lived in New York.

00:19:20.460 You're right.

00:19:21.100 You'll never know the numbers, but I've been asking the question recently, how many got

00:19:27.340 like, and it's probably higher, but I'm going to say I'm giving her every benefit of the

00:19:30.940 doubt because she got married at 30, two in high school, two in college, two in a major

00:19:37.300 city and i'll give her like a five-year relationship before meeting her husband

00:19:42.660 maybe you know what i mean but every you have to understand every relationships a girl's had i have

00:19:49.340 to think so your commitment rate was a hundred percent now if she was really hot i would believe

00:19:56.360 that but she's like a five i would put candace as a five um you know like if she was an eight

00:20:12.120 i could maybe accept it 100 commitment right i know i know women that claim to have that

00:20:19.640 and they're really hot

00:20:20.600 um so then you gotta go now after a woman slept with like five dudes the chance that she doesn't

00:20:34.460 like divorce or get fat or whatever is like five or sorry 10 20 i don't remember

00:20:40.820 okay you're gonna say five look at even if she's a six we know women are going for the eights

00:20:53.940 I don't like I just you're not really gonna convince me that she went to all of these

00:21:02.360 cities and did all this like I just don't believe it um and to me the only women that

00:21:10.280 can put their money where like Riley Gaines I would believe that she is even though she's in

00:21:15.680 the skimpy swimsuit and like doing she did like a swimsuit magazine I would believe she's more pure

00:21:22.800 than I would Candace okay even I would believe Riley Gaines is more pure than Brett Cooper

00:21:29.260 because Brett was in a sorority at a big college where Riley like she was um

00:21:34.920 i think she met her she met her chad husband in college and she's pretty cute i would say she's

00:21:44.640 like a seven i would say anyways so i'm just i'm just trying to be realistic because she's

00:21:53.560 going to signal purity i saw clips of this and you just can't signal purity to me and i think

00:22:01.920 sometimes people talk long enough you kind of start to believe your own you know your own bs so

00:22:06.540 i gotta i gotta i gotta talk about this thing is a direct contributor how does their unhappiness

00:22:12.540 because women are giving up their goods for free and women are now entering the workplace and that

00:22:17.240 does not actually make them now you said brett doesn't give me ho vibes well i'm look at she

00:22:23.160 might not even be a crazy ho but you expect me to believe now we have to remember the bigger the

00:22:30.260 college the bigger the ability to be the hoe be a hoe without ruining your reputation

00:22:35.220 if you move cities there's a bigger ability to be a hoe without ruining your reputation

00:22:42.260 from what i understand she was emancipated at like 15 16. so now she lives alone at 15 16.

00:22:50.340 she goes to a college that's big i'd have to double check i believe it was a big school

00:22:55.540 you are not going to convince me she didn't get a couple bodies a year

00:23:00.860 look you might believe it but we just got to be realistic guys you know if maybe she had a

00:23:11.680 boyfriend all of college well even if she had a boyfriend do i believe that she's hot enough

00:23:17.000 to have because remember women are going for alphas that's who women go for first and if he's

00:23:23.240 an alpha that means he can and will do better if he can um and again Brett's cute I would put her

00:23:30.420 six I would put Brett as a six Riley Gaines as a seven Candace Owens five that's that's what I

00:23:35.440 would rate him now obviously if you guys are really into blondes then Riley becomes an aide

00:23:40.200 if you're really into brunettes you know and I can tell you these none of these women are really

00:23:44.600 higher than a seven because they would be in playboy they wouldn't be in conservative media

00:23:49.240 mids go to conservative media none of them are hot enough to garner attention and as like a bottle

00:23:54.440 girl like you seen myron's girlfriend like i think she worked um like i think she was like a waitress

00:24:01.160 in miami but something like that but she's beautiful enough to do it right that's where the

00:24:07.000 hot women go um you might say she's not a five but i do casting i do entertainment um i i understand

00:24:16.600 that like like the the challenge is women are so fat that it does inflate everything but that

00:24:24.040 it just means like imagine it just means like a basketball league got worse

00:24:28.440 and so now you're dunking on everybody but it doesn't mean you're better like that's kind of

00:24:33.400 how i equate it uh maybe she didn't hoe herself out well but do you see what you guys like that's

00:24:43.000 simping right there why do you guys is your reaction to give the benefit of the doubt she's

00:24:47.960 an actress you know i don't have to give you the benefit of the doubt i don't now to be fair brett

00:24:54.680 cooper did put her money where her mouth is and she married at like 22. but but but

00:25:02.680 what were you doing in college you know you what were you doing in high school

00:25:09.160 you guys i don't give the benefit of the doubt

00:25:13.000 Um, like some of you guys do.

00:25:18.680 Happy.

00:25:19.280 Okay, pause.

00:25:20.280 Sorry, you've been voted out by the majority.

00:25:22.040 Please return to your seat.

00:25:30.240 Hello.

00:25:31.240 Hi there.

00:25:32.000 How are you?

00:25:32.420 I'm Candace.

00:25:33.160 Nice to meet you.

00:25:33.760 Nice to meet you.

00:25:35.080 Julian, my pronouns are they, them.

00:25:36.800 It's very interesting to think of it.

00:25:38.120 I want me to think about the gender binary.

00:25:40.500 It's, you know, how do we...

00:25:41.560 Right.

00:25:41.780 now someone said brett's pregnant totally but why if you're pregnant why is your focus not on

00:25:48.560 your family and now she's accepting a job at fox news now again like i believe these women

00:25:55.200 if they start putting their money where their mouth is and they start leaving the public eye

00:25:59.720 well how do i put this i'll believe that they're what they say they are but if they're not what

00:26:06.220 if they don't do that they're just not what they say they are I'm not saying like I always try to

00:26:13.760 be clear I'm not special I'm not different I'm not like I'm not I'm a woman but we got to be

00:26:20.520 realistic here that so are they right everyone is you place value on human beings in general

00:26:26.760 and so when we think about you know placing value that comes from a place of power right

00:26:31.680 So I think let's select like the Victorian era.

00:26:34.400 You have this dominant group of people coming from white supremacy,

00:26:37.720 deciding who gets to have a proper status in the world.

00:26:43.280 And so that is already like placed, taking human beings and devaluing them.

00:26:48.100 And so what the sexual revolution did was to help people seek out empowerment,

00:26:52.860 which increased value no matter the gender.

00:26:56.040 So when it comes to sexual revolution, let's look at one contribution is sex education.

00:27:00.180 I'm actually an educator. I teach sociology and LGBTQ studies, and I have absolutely seen the

00:27:06.360 positive outcome with the sexual revolution and sex education and seeing people empower themselves.

00:27:11.600 And with that comes safety when it comes to decreasing STIs, abuse, sexual assault. Again,

00:27:19.460 people get to empower themselves of all genders. And I know earlier you mentioned about

00:27:23.640 violence amongst lesbians and sapphic community, which I do identify within.

00:27:28.220 who is all genders can be subjected to violence that was the point i was making so i wasn't sure

00:27:35.200 of how her claim was relating to what we were talking about whether or not it makes people

00:27:38.320 happy or unhappy relationships are obviously a ground where there can be violence i guess i

00:27:44.540 could just wrap it up by saying like if we all have access to like sex education through

00:27:48.220 the incredible work of feminists through the section i actually do believe in sex education

00:27:53.800 um but not through the schools but i'm actually going to do a sex ed show

00:27:59.080 one of these days sexual revolution we are able to gain access to information and gain skills

00:28:05.980 to create gains went to lsu okay i'm look at but she had a boyfriend throughout college i think

00:28:12.760 i don't i don't i don't really care but you guys you guys get the point i'm making

00:28:16.280 an equitable society egalitarian within our relationships whether it be platonic romantic

00:28:21.480 I'm so grateful for those feminists who have fought for us so we can gain those spaces

00:28:26.360 and create a healthier society.

00:28:27.920 Okay.

00:28:28.920 Are you a believer in the government doing everything that it can to make people happy?

00:28:34.000 So when it comes, as someone that teaches in the public sector, I understand the concern

00:28:37.760 when it comes to what is a teacher, you know, what kind of information they're providing

00:28:41.420 to the students.

00:28:43.240 I do believe that we, as a teacher, I should be able to give that sort of information.

00:28:49.800 Again, I teach college students.

00:28:51.480 One of my claims is I believe that we should mandate a sex education amongst college students.

00:28:57.340 So, yes.

00:28:58.300 I don't Google it.

00:28:59.740 Do you know what I mean?

00:29:00.380 Like, why am I wasting my tax dollars to teach you how to have sex?

00:29:06.240 There's corn on the Internet.

00:29:07.740 There's Google.

00:29:09.320 There's friends and family.

00:29:11.320 I just don't want to pay.

00:29:12.720 I don't want to pay for that to be taught this by some weird person that wants to talk to teenagers and young adults about sex.

00:29:19.800 I don't.

00:29:20.800 I do want the state, I would like the government to give us those resources so we can implement

00:29:26.980 that curriculum.

00:29:27.980 Okay.

00:29:28.980 Would you, or you consider yourself a feminist, I'm assuming?

00:29:32.440 Queer feminist.

00:29:33.440 There's, there's different, there's variations, right?

00:29:35.660 What is a queer feminist as opposed to a feminist, just so I understand?

00:29:38.440 Well, like, so I heavily believe in queer theory.

00:29:41.880 So, you know, the gender binary that we understand, it comes from colonization.

00:29:46.400 someone who is mixed race, found me from Mexico, you know, we have the Moshes in Mexico, which is

00:29:52.000 an indigenous tribe. They believe in gender fluidity. And then you have European colonizers

00:29:56.480 coming who dismantle that. And now everything that we understand when it comes to gender is

00:30:00.720 a Western lens. So from a queer- So you don't even think women exist, I'm guessing.

00:30:05.280 I think everyone should be empowered to figure out their identity and explore the language that

00:30:10.000 best describes themselves. So freedom, America, right? America, freedom. And I want to believe

00:30:15.680 in that when it comes to identity everyone should have the freedom to decide how they want to

00:30:19.520 identify as long as they're not causing harm but that's where we get into the debate what is harm

00:30:24.320 so just again to be clear to go back to this claim we are debating female happiness you are saying

00:30:30.160 you do not identify as a female identify with all gender expressions so from masculinity to

00:30:35.840 femininity i so so i'm just saying yeah why is this why is she here like why why okay are you

00:30:43.600 just saying that as a part of queer theory you're debating whether or not women are happier after

00:30:48.400 the sexual revolution? I'm just trying to understand because it seems like you're debating

00:30:51.360 queer theory as opposed to female. I believe all genders benefit from the sexual revolution.

00:30:56.000 You've been voted out by the majority. Please return. Thank god. To your seat.

00:30:59.760 Hello. I'm Zena. Zena. Very much like your name. Thank you so much. Nice to meet you. Can we start

00:31:14.760 with the beginning? Do you identify as a female? I identify as a woman. Yeah. Okay. Right. So I do

00:31:20.300 want to get back to your premise. You're saying that women have been devalued, right, by the

00:31:24.500 sexual revolution. This like kind of presumes two things. One, that there has been a loss of worth,

00:31:30.360 right? For women. So you're saying that women have, as human beings, lost worth. Women who

00:31:36.040 prior to their sexual revolution were worth more than women today. I would say that yes,

00:31:42.540 women have devalued themselves by becoming overtly sexual. That's my claim. So I mean,

00:31:48.160 also according to just, and let's not remove this from the other part of the claim, which that

00:31:52.460 as it has made women infinitely less happy. Right. So are you saying, but you're saying that

00:31:57.280 according to you, women have been devalued. Not according to me. Um, according to the time in

00:32:03.400 which people are getting married, how difficult it is for people to find a partner that's willing

00:32:06.560 to commit to them. And I think that's enlarged. Women don't want commitment. They don't, they

00:32:11.520 don't want to be mothers and they don't want to be wives because if Candace Owens really wanted

00:32:15.440 to be a mother and a wife first, she'd put it away, but she won't. Right. And I'm not even

00:32:19.820 said she should look she could but if you mess your kids up i don't care like i was raised by

00:32:28.340 nannies i'd say i'm good enough i could be better but like you know maybe i'm like i'm like maybe

00:32:35.600 and not not completely but strong influence from them you know maybe if i maybe i wouldn't be on

00:32:42.700 the internet doing this stuff but you know here i am which part due to the fact that women are

00:32:48.020 offering sex for free because it was a main you know a major component of the sexual revolution

00:32:52.420 was this idea so woman's worth is tied to her sexuality it's not it's not tied well absolutely

00:32:57.780 if you're going to be having multiple partners you are going to be devaluing yourself yeah so

00:33:03.940 to be honest um men pick beauty before purity

00:33:10.820 they do so your number one value is is tied to your sexuality in a way as a woman because

00:33:21.400 the promise of sex like gets guys to do stuff for you and you can monetize it in different ways

00:33:28.900 in a way candace is monetizing her sexuality um because she does the you know i'm special and

00:33:35.240 different grift and you know um trying to say in a different way i i know she's not like overly

00:33:44.080 sexual like she doesn't wear super whatever stuff but she would not be as famous if she was a man

00:33:50.320 that's a better way to put it worthless yeah as a human being not as a human being just you know

00:33:55.820 in terms of trying to have a partnership and a productive beauty isn't purity look i you guys

00:34:00.740 can say what you want but i see what you guys respond to youth and beauty is your number one

00:34:09.060 cure currency purity is third um the only reason men go down on beauty is because they want to be

00:34:17.220 treated a little bit better but beauty will get women opportunities and in the door um it will

00:34:24.160 get them in the door and have opportunities even that a girl that like if you take a five or an

00:34:30.580 eight the eight's gonna have more chances at relationships more chances at marriage despite

00:34:36.360 her body count even than the five you might not agree with it but it all starts with a swipe right

00:34:42.940 that's where it starts it all starts with him asking her out it's not like we have these

00:34:49.180 niche communities where the fight you get to know the five she works her way up no most people are

00:34:55.500 meeting on dating apps do you know how that starts your face your tits your ass that's how it starts

00:35:02.700 um yeah so

00:35:09.740 yeah i understand that you might have you might pick like let's say okay let's say you have a five and

00:35:14.940 and eight and you're a guy that gets girls because remember women only want the alpha so the only real

00:35:19.840 relationships like if i was a guy i wouldn't consider a relationship with any woman that

00:35:24.780 doesn't view me as alpha i wouldn't because like that's the only chance you have as a girl staying

00:35:30.620 it truly is if a girl's making you wait for sex like because in the past she had to stay for

00:35:37.460 security but now women are bailed out by the government um they're bailed out they can get

00:35:42.320 jobs they don't need money anymore so the only thing women need is excitement so um like there's

00:35:50.000 no need for men to provide um but like if a guy that has choice he's banging an eight a seven and

00:35:57.460 a six now the six might he might pick the six for long term but the five didn't even get in the door

00:36:07.020 look because he's gonna say which girl am I gonna go on a date with this eight or the five and if

00:36:12.800 they both say yes he's going on the date with the eight and the eight got in the door the five did

00:36:18.320 not and I know what you're thinking you're like pearl pearl but pearl women why doesn't why don't

00:36:27.260 the women just date guys on their league yeah okay like have you not watched this show I like

00:36:35.260 threes because i have double vision relationship certainly men are not yeah a five woman pulls

00:36:43.420 eight nine ten men a five man pulls two three four women the power weapon is beauty beauty comes

00:36:48.800 first and it pisses you know non-hot women off because we'll see hot women i've seen hot women

00:36:55.440 do terrible things and men will still pick her you know men will still i mean she's hot

00:37:01.720 yeah the five got in but only through the back door true not going to be clamoring to have a

00:37:08.620 relationship with somebody when there's the market is throwing them a man's response to

00:37:13.720 your actions is and men do wife hoes let's not i used to men don't want to but for how much you

00:37:21.420 guys for the amount of pushback i just got in the chat where i said do you know what i bet brett

00:37:27.540 caught a couple bodies in college i didn't say she all out hoed out but i when i said you know

00:37:33.200 candace lived in a big city i bet she threw her back a bit i think that's a fair assessment

00:37:39.880 and then you guys said no no no no no that's how i know you guys will wife hoes because

00:37:46.480 you guys are so will not you i know some of you are rp but a lot of guys are so willing to just

00:37:54.080 give every benefit of the doubt they can possibly give because women say they're they're pure

00:37:58.760 i mean you could say anything um am i a million i i think i should i am a millionaire i'm a

00:38:07.780 multi-bajillionaire do you guys believe me no women have to prove they're not hoes

00:38:14.100 what defines your work don't kill the dream

00:38:17.060 okay well i what i'm saying is she might not be a hoe if she's an eight but none of these women are

00:38:26.440 eights right yeah well yeah um i would say that i would argue that at the what makes women actually

00:38:35.900 happy is family so if you're interrupting so i'm just to connect with dodge for you

00:38:40.340 when women are having sex with multiple partners it devalues them for men right

00:38:45.500 For men. So men define a woman's worth.

00:38:48.000 Well, I would say both of them kind of define one another's worth

00:38:50.320 because I think the ultimate goal for people to be happy is actually family.

00:38:53.820 Okay. So you're saying in all cases,

00:38:56.300 a woman is going to be more fulfilled in regards to family.

00:38:59.400 That's exactly what I'm saying.

00:39:00.480 And this is going to work in all cases.

00:39:01.580 You're saying there's no individual case in which a woman can feel,

00:39:04.580 you know, fulfilled without being tied to other people in the case of family.

00:39:10.120 I think there could be an exceptional case for everything.

00:39:13.120 I think there are exceptional cases.

00:39:17.360 Controversial opinion.

00:39:18.980 I don't think women, I think women, as a woman, it is your job to make yourself happy.

00:39:27.340 You cannot put that on your kids or your husband.

00:39:29.680 That's your own job.

00:39:34.520 It is your own job to make yourself happy.

00:39:37.340 I think you have your own responsibility to be happy.

00:39:43.120 So I think that the family, thank you, $50, Carlos, you shouldn't have.

00:39:51.060 Now, the family could make you more fulfilled, hypothetically, but, you know, I just got to look at what women are doing.

00:39:58.720 I'd really like to believe that, and I think at one point I did, but I just kept looking at what women were doing.

00:40:04.980 If women wanted family and to be mothers so bad, why did they kill an eighth of the world population?

00:40:10.060 we would have a second city of london if it weren't for abortion if women wanted it so bad

00:40:16.120 why is it when women are 22 they're not like dying to have kids and be a mother

00:40:20.240 um so i just kind of had to look at it and say do you know what i don't think women

00:40:26.540 wanted as much as we previously thought i don't um and even this rhetoric i'm looking at this

00:40:35.080 and i'm thinking you can't put being happy on your kids or all your family it's not fair to

00:40:39.620 your kids to make them responsible for your happiness it's not fair to your husband if your

00:40:45.720 husband left you tomorrow you got to figure out a way to be happy that's your burden in life it just

00:40:50.400 is what it is um yeah but i think that if we all start trying to be the exception as opposed to

00:40:57.940 recognizing the rule which is that people in life are more fulfilled when they achieve a family unit

00:41:03.880 and when they have children women in particular especially having aspiring to children then you

00:41:09.280 are going to end up with a bunch of people who are unhappy because your job cannot replace the

00:41:14.580 feeling of having a family. So what you're saying is we need to look at every individual case and

00:41:20.220 see what is going to fulfill you or what is going to, I guess, essentially predict your happiness

00:41:24.840 more. I'm not here to look at, this is what conservatives miss. Women are not happy with

00:41:32.780 beta husbands. They're not. And their actions proved it. Not what they say, what they did.

00:41:39.280 um if women were so happy with beta husbands why do they keep killing their kids why do they keep

00:41:45.320 divorcing them and leaving them they're not happy with them they're not um so

00:41:50.120 i just tell women to go for alphas and try to get one

00:41:55.580 and it's not because i think most women will but

00:42:02.380 what i'm gonna tell her to go torture a beta guy

00:42:06.600 or a guy that she views is like not good like do you know what it's like have you any of you guys

00:42:13.140 been married to a woman who she thinks she's better than you or she thinks you're like her

00:42:17.700 second choice i don't tell women i say go for the men you want and it's not because

00:42:23.620 it's really it's in the guy's best interest

00:42:27.940 it's in the guy's best interest now you need money to have kids

00:42:33.120 not necessarily um you need money to have kids today because women want the latest

00:42:39.340 fashion um the latest clothes the latest diapers a house not an apartment

00:42:44.800 i mean i i know people that were raised in apartments and they're fine

00:42:49.680 yeah yeah and those women yeah as a woman like that's why I almost think these happiness

00:42:59.600 conversations are bad they're not bad but are fruitless because you're either a happy person

00:43:06.280 or you're not or because if we look at for example the Nordic countries right these are

00:43:10.820 countries I'm talking about like Sweden Denmark right these countries tend to be like I think in

00:43:16.380 the past 14 years, they've been ranked as the highest in happiness and marital satisfaction

00:43:20.420 from women, right? And we see that they also have been the most open regards to like, you know,

00:43:24.560 sexual norms and, you know, sexual roles, right? So, and we also see that there's less race.

00:43:29.160 And remember, there's alpha guys that go after, like I would put, okay.

00:43:34.900 I know guys that you could say like, I'm going to just say alpha, non-alpha, I don't know, but

00:43:42.040 I hate the terms, but I just, I got to use something. I really don't like alpha and beta,

00:43:47.220 but there's alpha guys that run through the 30 year old women. There's alpha guys that run

00:43:51.740 through the 40 year old women. Women age out of like the top alphas and then go to the second

00:43:56.320 alphas in their thirties that are like, they're running through those women and so forth.

00:44:00.620 It's like STDs reported. We see more, and that's also due to comprehensive sex education

00:44:07.080 that's pushing those countries. So we see that when we, and that's like,

00:44:09.760 perhaps women can be happy with non-alphas if they can bond and not have a body count over five

00:44:14.480 yeah and and i think that's why partially men like the younger women i mean they don't have

00:44:18.160 to compete as much right you don't you have to compete with like two dudes that's amazing

00:44:23.040 um and so it's kind of like uh it's like a workaround right um but it doesn't work now

00:44:31.840 because women will meet a more alpha more chad guy than you at work um at home the pool that's

00:44:38.800 that's why women end up screwing the pool boy. Right. Um, unfortunately, if that were true,

00:44:45.660 then all the people that married young would, um, they would stay married, but now they divorce

00:44:53.140 more than people that marry later. And it's because women, you're basically telling women

00:44:56.960 give up being a celebrity to be with me. How many men would give up being a, like a LeBron James

00:45:05.520 to be with a woman you probably wouldn't right um like to have all these high level women not high

00:45:11.420 level hot women chasing you it'd be pretty hard to get you to settle down that's what you're

00:45:16.160 telling women to do good luck um using the word alpha is generalizing do you guys want to understand

00:45:23.760 what i'm saying or are you just going to pick i understand it's not a perfect term but i gotta i

00:45:28.920 gotta use a placeholder term a direct result of the sexual revolution right so when we're seeing

00:45:33.340 that direct reports of happiness, right?

00:45:34.920 We don't have the same rates.

00:45:36.340 Pearl keeps telling the truth.

00:45:37.580 Women love Neiman Marcus.

00:45:39.300 Who doesn't?

00:45:40.100 All women and men are the same.

00:45:41.300 Remember, we are all the same overall.

00:45:42.940 I don't think we're the same,

00:45:44.160 but I don't know what you're...

00:45:46.580 America, in these countries

00:45:47.860 that are more sexually open,

00:45:49.140 why would we see like those rates

00:45:51.080 in those type of countries?

00:45:51.760 So I think you might be referring

00:45:53.440 to this sort of mass-produced study

00:45:55.740 that was a part of like a behavioral science study,

00:45:57.800 which said that...

00:45:58.540 Now, here's the issue.

00:45:59.420 All right.

00:46:01.360 i use studies on my channel and facts and statistics because i have to i have to i do

00:46:09.920 um but the the challenge you get is in academia there is no incentive to produce honest studies

00:46:18.960 if it ruins your career and so i don't like my first way that i am going to see the world is

00:46:26.880 through my eyes and what i see second is facts data and statistics you're not going to give me

00:46:33.280 a study and say don't believe what's in front of your eyes you can't do it women were the happiest

00:46:40.720 women in the world or women that were actually unmarried and had careers no no okay well there

00:46:45.040 was happiness okay sure i'm talking about the same thing it was reported happiness but it could be a

00:46:49.760 different there's tons of studies the point being is that in 20 in 2023 there was this massive

00:46:54.480 scandal where they recognized that a lot of these studies that were being produced, behavioral

00:46:58.960 science, was proven to be a complete fraud. And they were unable to reproduce these studies,

00:47:02.880 and they also found that the data had been faked. The data that we can look at that I think shows,

00:47:07.120 and you can let me know if you agree with this, if women under the imagination of the feminist

00:47:12.080 umbrella were really unhappy when they were in the home, and then entering the workforce has

00:47:17.760 made women happier and infinitely feeling more secure about themselves, we could, I think,

00:47:23.360 reasonably expect that there would have been a decrease in suicide rates amongst women.

00:47:29.360 You would have to go ahead and show how that correlation, right,

00:47:32.640 is going to be a direct cause of women going into the workforce.

00:47:36.320 Okay. Well, how can we measure, then you have to give me a way that we can measure happiness.

00:47:39.520 How can we measure happiness? I would say suicide rates would be a good thing to look at. Drug

00:47:43.920 alcohol consumption would be a good thing to look at. Of course, right. But we have to,

00:47:46.560 we can say, I can say at this point in society, I don't think everyone.

00:47:49.200 yeah but women i don't like alcohol consumption because women are doing that to party

00:47:55.280 you know women love roar like women are one of the biggest binge drinkers in the united states

00:48:00.400 um so i don't i don't know alcohol maybe antidepressant suicide rate i would agree

00:48:05.680 everyone's happy i think there's a lot of things that we need to reconcile that's what i'm getting

00:48:09.600 at right but we have to look at the cause right why are are these things predicted right and and

00:48:14.640 for example if we talk about men there are a lot of things we can look at right that um that you

00:48:18.880 you know, tend to predetermine suicide, right? But we can't say, oh, these two things are

00:48:23.660 happening at the same time. This caused this other thing. Yes, that's right. But I do think

00:48:27.320 that we can objectively say that women who are committing suicide rates more than they were in

00:48:33.400 the 1950s, like it has, it has actually increased marginally. That's not a sign that the, us,

00:48:40.280 statistically unchanged. Yeah, women are kind of pussies. They're not going to do it.

00:48:46.860 Sorry, I shouldn't say that.

00:48:49.540 Entering the workforce suddenly made us all very happy.

00:48:52.020 How is it a cause of the workforce?

00:48:52.720 We're also binge drinking at a higher rate.

00:48:55.840 How is it a cause of entering the workforce?

00:48:57.200 Opioids at a higher rate.

00:48:58.540 How is it a cause of entering the workforce?

00:48:59.300 Because I think women are being put on a pathway aspirationally.

00:49:03.320 But you're saying you think this, right?

00:49:05.160 But where is the cause?

00:49:06.900 Like, you're not substantiating the claim.

00:49:09.360 You're saying, this is what I think.

00:49:10.600 I'm seeing two-

00:49:11.120 Okay, pause.

00:49:12.040 You've been voted out by the majority.

00:49:14.020 So Locale says,

00:49:15.240 we are in the same life um wait we are the same in life is is what we want this is why we have

00:49:22.160 this dynamic it will never change love it accept it why fight it yeah i've accepted

00:49:25.900 i wish i fought it less

00:49:29.000 some of the fighting was embarrassing i wish i

00:49:34.300 yeah i just got to accept things the way they are please return to your seat thank you so much

00:49:40.960 great job great job

00:49:45.240 Hello, how are we?

00:49:51.240 Hi, I'm Nikki.

00:49:52.240 Nice to meet you.

00:49:53.240 So when we're talking about the value of women on a societal scale and how we view each other,

00:49:59.540 when you're devaluing us, you're objectifying us and follow me, I promise, but rape rates

00:50:07.800 have gone down by about half in the last 20 years.

00:50:12.560 So if you're saying we're less valuable now, why wouldn't we be suffering at a higher rate?

00:50:20.240 So is the argument that you're making, just so I understand that because women are giving

00:50:23.980 up sex for free, they're not being raped?

00:50:27.660 Every study shows rape is not correlated with just sexual gratification.

00:50:30.620 It is a power structure.

00:50:32.800 So it is about objectifying and abusing women when you rape them, not about whether or not

00:50:37.380 you want sex.

00:50:38.860 What I am saying is that women are less objectified.

00:50:41.340 Well, I would say that there's way more consequences.

00:50:44.860 Men are like, the men are giving out consent forms nowadays.

00:50:48.120 So therefore we are being raped less.

00:50:49.700 Okay.

00:50:50.700 So you think that in today's society, because this is pretty wild for me, in the 1950s,

00:50:57.000 you're saying women were more objectified than today in the land of OnlyFans, the Kardashian

00:51:03.760 clan and women that are essentially putting up their boobs and butts for free on Instagram.

00:51:08.980 saying we are now, we finally have achieved. I don't like that language. Yeah. Women objectify

00:51:14.580 themselves. Men are a utility women. Yeah. I don't put women are not objectified. Women objectify

00:51:21.780 themselves. I was going to say the same thing. It's less objectification where women can't even get

00:51:26.820 onto an advertising. You can't even advertise a bag without them having to be naked in order

00:51:32.340 for them to get. Do you see right there? It's not women having to be naked. It's women wanting and

00:51:38.580 getting naked because they want the power that comes with getting naked how many views would

00:51:45.780 i get if i just i'm not i'm not going to but you guys like because there's power in it career as a

00:51:55.240 model you're saying oh great we've achieved actually less subjectification so i'm not

00:52:01.620 trying to suggest that i think that the over commodification of women's bodies is positive

00:52:07.800 But what I am saying is that when you're going to the 1950s, that we shouldn't put this glazed

00:52:12.760 look of, oh, it was so happy. We had single income households and we got to stay home.

00:52:16.840 We also had a pill popping problem. We also reviewed as maids. We were seen as a house

00:52:21.960 appliance far more than we were as people. And so when you have that kind of objectification,

00:52:28.040 where you are in a subservient position, I think we're facing a different form today.

00:52:35.720 but I think that rape is a signifier of a contradiction to your statement.

00:52:41.560 Okay. Does that make sense?

00:52:42.680 It doesn't make sense, but I do want to rebut it on a couple of points. So first,

00:52:46.040 I just want to say, suggesting that objectification has gone downward since the 1950s is wild. That's

00:52:52.680 just a firm no. That is not the truth. And you know that's not true.

00:52:55.160 Wait, so do you feel like-

00:52:56.040 Hold on. Let me answer your second thing. Second thing. You then brought up, okay,

00:52:59.640 women were at home, but they were pill popping. Well, you then have to acknowledge we're actually

00:53:04.200 popping more pills now. So we have actually increased our amount of pill popping. Women

00:53:09.400 are having overdoses on opioids. And on top of that, since I think 1999, by rate, we are increasing

00:53:16.680 our opioid use compared to men. So women are not popping pills less because we're going into the

00:53:21.880 workforce. That's actually not true at all either. And we're also, like I said to you, consuming

00:53:26.600 alcohol more and binge drinking more than we did in the 1950s, which is why I was trying to get

00:53:30.840 get her to say, we need to look at actually a reasonable, give me any reasonable metric of how

00:53:34.900 we can define happiness. Because it's hard, right? Are you happy? Yes or no. Wait, hold on. We're

00:53:39.180 actually avoiding what my original point was, was about rape being the signifier. Okay, pause.

00:53:44.000 You've been voted out by the majority. Please return to your seat. Thank you. Nice to meet you.

00:53:54.940 Hi. Hi. I like your hat. The men in the circle are wolves in sheep's clothing. They're going to

00:53:59.940 portray it as feminist allies in hopes of banging one of the women in the group look at destiny

00:54:04.900 they probably will i mean some of these girls aren't bad they're not bad whitney shanahan nice

00:54:10.660 to meet you i not her she's not that cute but i'm fascinated by your claim uh that women

00:54:18.820 have lost happiness since the sexual revolution since the 1950s such a dumb argument

00:54:26.020 like at what point in their life did they lose happiness this is how it goes women married to

00:54:34.160 alpha is happy women alone less happy women married to beta is least happy that's why they

00:54:40.180 keep killing their kids do you think that there is any tie to happiness and freedom and happiness

00:54:48.660 and choice. Because since 1950s, since the sexual revolution, women have gotten exponentially more

00:54:56.440 freedom and more choice. And for me, as a mother and as a woman, having the freedom to choose what

00:55:05.020 I do to make my own destiny makes me infinitely more happy than say back before the sexual

00:55:11.640 revolution when I couldn't get a bank account, couldn't get a home loan, couldn't work outside

00:55:16.580 the home couldn't travel around without a man uh couldn't control my own reproduction so i feel the

00:55:22.740 happiness personally my do you know what i actually think women should have the right to do all that

00:55:28.900 stuff you have the right to hell i do i think you have the right i think people have the right to

00:55:33.940 their hell what i don't like is that women don't have the consequences from those how the hell

00:55:39.060 like you have to pay your debt back you can't just declare bankruptcy

00:55:45.540 you know um maybe there's consequences for not disclosing your std status if you catch herpes

00:55:52.900 and you're a you know belief is tied to our ability to have freedom and i think that in

00:55:58.980 the united states protecting freedom and our individual freedoms is what's going to lead us to

00:56:04.980 happiness um did you go to college absolutely okay did you yes i did so you have a degree

00:56:10.900 absolutely now when you went to college did you go to college because it was simply something

00:56:15.620 that you wanted to do or did you think that i have to go to college because in order to get a

00:56:19.940 job i have to have a college degree i went to college for art because i was fascinated with art

00:56:25.300 okay it's just answering my question did you go to call was that the only reason you went to college

00:56:29.940 or did you think that i might want to do something in art so i have to go to college like for my

00:56:33.540 my career. I went to school because I wanted to expand my horizons. I mean, I think that's why

00:56:39.180 most people go to university. Why did you go? That's actually not true. I went and I think a lot

00:56:44.480 of people go because there's a pressure that if you don't go to college, you're going to be a

00:56:48.320 failure. It's a choice. Everything's a choice. Okay. Taking away choices doesn't make people

00:56:52.680 happier. Taking away freedoms doesn't make people happier. Okay. If you want to go to school,

00:56:57.740 go to school, but pay your student loans. Agreeing with you on the idea that people

00:57:02.220 are feeling more free by financial pressure. I think financial pressure makes people feel

00:57:06.240 remarkably less free. So you want no bank accounts again, women not to have credit cards?

00:57:09.820 I'm not saying that women shouldn't have access to credit cards or banking accounts. You're

00:57:13.440 putting words in my mouth. So why don't you respond to the words that I'm saying?

00:57:16.220 Well, less financial pressure. If I don't have a bank account, that's a lot less financial

00:57:19.380 pressure, I guess, right? Financial pressure in terms of most people

00:57:22.740 that go to college, and I'm counting myself among them, it's because typically in order to get the

00:57:29.300 job that you're being sold is going to make you infinitely happier and infinitely more free,

00:57:33.140 it just requires a college degree. And most of these people, to be clear,

00:57:36.580 have to put themselves, the majority of people have to put themselves into debt.

00:57:39.860 And I don't think anybody would describe debt as a form of freedom, right? I don't think anybody

00:57:43.860 would realistically say- Let's get back to happiness. So we're here to talk about happiness

00:57:47.860 and how the sexual revolution, and we're not talking about college debt.

00:57:51.220 I think it's important because we're talking about freedom. You just said that the reason

00:57:55.220 why I feel happy is because I have more freedom. And I am saying that financial restraints and

00:58:00.560 debt doesn't make people feel more free. So let's eliminate the debt. Let's eliminate

00:58:04.420 college debt. Maybe we should have a free college here in the U.S. That sounds great. Great idea,

00:58:08.800 Candice. I love that idea. All right. I love it. Champion. Champion for the people.

00:58:14.200 I don't think this was one of Candice's better performances, actually.

00:58:20.060 We can go to college. We go to college because feminists staffed HR departments and focused on

00:58:25.060 credentials over competence. Why do they calm equals voted out loud equals celebrated.

00:58:36.400 Bring people that have want to have actual conversations. Okay, very nice. All right,

00:58:45.780 return to your seat.

00:58:47.980 Surrounded is now a podcast available wherever you listen. Search surrounded, plug in and

00:58:53.180 claim is pretty extreme and pretty like... Children are extreme? Well, no. That women

00:58:59.740 would get more happiness inherently from raising kids and having a job or deciding what they want

00:59:04.940 to do with their lives. Yeah. Because if women derived happiness from children,

00:59:09.900 why do they keep killing them? I thought so too. But I just kept coming back to this point. I'm

00:59:17.900 like if women wanted children and to be mothers like why why don't we do it like you can download

00:59:26.780 hinge and you could filter by age height really anything why is that i'm honestly candace seems

00:59:35.820 insufferable to me she's high and mighty if i was her husband i would be gone girl just curious

00:59:41.420 why would having children which is just a natural biological conclusion be something

00:59:47.340 that sounds extreme to you. I just said inherently. Inherently.

00:59:51.180 That's the inherent expectation. That's better for women.

00:59:53.820 It's inherent because it's biological. When we think about things that are inherent,

00:59:57.580 I think biology is a good thing to start with. Biologically speaking, men and women come together,

01:00:02.940 they form families, and that's the reason why you're sitting here. That's the reason that I'm

01:00:06.460 sitting here is because biology is inherent. It's just natural order that we're speaking about.

01:00:13.500 right okay let's break it down so why do you why do you believe that why do you believe that why do

01:00:17.980 i believe that why do you inherently inherently are happier yeah sorry i skipped it no career will

01:00:23.260 give women as much joy and fulfillment in raising children if i was going to dismantle that argument

01:00:28.540 i would say why did you not have children at 20 why did you do it at 30. because you had way more

01:00:34.540 fun being a celebrity look i'm not i you know i had to ask you know you kind of have to ask yourself

01:00:42.940 this question as a woman, you know, if we want to do it, why didn't we do it? Right?

01:00:49.580 Stressing this word inherent. Yeah. Yeah. I think because it speaks to natural order and

01:00:54.620 every piece of life I think is enriched by children. You don't think it's natural for

01:00:59.200 women to get to decide what they want to do with their lives? I do not think that saying women can

01:01:04.640 decide whether or not they want to go to work or have children is problematic. What I'm saying to

01:01:09.960 you is that women will get the most fulfillment from having a family because it's natural then

01:01:15.800 if it's so natural to us why don't we do it because again it's revealed stated preferences

01:01:22.980 my boyfriend taught me this actually

01:01:24.920 i want to tell you guys a story where he kind of cooked me

01:01:30.560 but i don't want to i'm not going to say it maybe we got to build the trust i've had too

01:01:38.100 many hit pieces on me. Like they'll, they'll cut it and be like, ah, why? I love this level of fit.

01:01:47.820 I don't want to be in the, but anyways, again, if it was so natural to women, women would just

01:01:54.480 want to do it, but we don't. So it's natural, but also children are wonderful and beautiful

01:01:59.660 and spiritually divine creatures. I mean, they're just, they're amazing. There's everything about

01:02:04.760 what's so amazing about him good evening pearl do you think married women in countries under

01:02:10.600 islamic moral law are happier than western women today have you seen any studies on this greetings

01:02:14.780 from brazil i've done spaces from guys from some of these countries and they tell me it's the same

01:02:20.100 there maybe it's a little bit more hidden but women are always going to do the same thing they

01:02:24.840 always go for the alphas find a cleanup guy and then cheat on him with the alphas like it just

01:02:29.620 you either become an elf or you die alone. Like that's really it. Sorry guys. Um, or you take the

01:02:36.920 L. I forgot what I was talking about with this. Okay. Having a child. Yes. It's a lot of work.

01:02:44.320 It's just, it's beautiful. I hear that. Well, okay. What if there's a little girl born and

01:02:55.640 And it's her dream, her entire life to be an author or to be, you know, on TV or any

01:03:01.640 of these things.

01:03:02.400 And having children is very expensive.

01:03:04.000 It takes a lot of time.

01:03:05.340 So how is it better for that?

01:03:07.580 Like, and I understand this hypothetical, but that hypothetical little girl to have

01:03:11.720 children than to pursue these things that would make her happy as she gets older.

01:03:14.740 But see, that's like the difference is men aren't controlling.

01:03:17.580 I kind of understand his like point of view.

01:03:20.000 Men are not controlling.

01:03:22.620 Women are controlling.

01:03:23.560 So women want to like impose their morality on the world where men are like, hey, do what you're

01:03:27.800 going to do. Because men know that you can't nag the world into changing where women are a little

01:03:32.760 more delusional because they've seen it work. Nice seeing Ted Bundy is alive and well. Candace

01:03:37.720 is so insane. She gets mad at her tampon. Lady is cracked. I just think that if she publishes

01:03:42.760 the book and she has a child, she would agree with me that the child was more fulfilling and

01:03:46.440 made her happy. That's what I'm happier than the book did is what I'm saying. And I say this as a

01:03:50.440 published author of the new york times i would choose my children over my best-selling book

01:03:55.800 and i was but then you would have did that first choices reveal what you really want you like you

01:04:02.360 wouldn't you wouldn't be here you know what i mean you wouldn't that little girl who had a dream

01:04:10.200 that like oh it would be really great if i could share my thoughts and ideas in a book but it is

01:04:16.680 utter insanity for me to reflect on that and say that i would have rather published blackout than

01:04:21.800 to have my three children why is it rather you see what i'm saying it's it's not rather i'm

01:04:25.960 just saying yeah because candace is a winner of feminism she won because men and women are

01:04:31.560 arguing on who gets women's youth do women get to use it on themselves or do women get to

01:04:38.600 um give it to their husbands and men are losing because women keep pushing it off

01:04:43.400 um so candace won because remember feminism says don't do the arranged marriage from before don't

01:04:50.880 marry the guy from your hometown you can do better and get better and be hypergamous and it allows

01:04:55.640 women to be hypergamous so candace could have married that guy from her high school could have

01:05:00.340 married the guy from her college could have married someone she met in her early career she

01:05:04.000 chose not to and she chose to shoot for the moon and then she married into 180 million

01:05:09.260 That's called winning, ladies. Take notes. I want to know. Candice, the best video that you could

01:05:15.260 ever do is how to do that. I'll tell you what. That would be your most viewed video.

01:05:20.220 Your claim. That's your claim. It will be more fulfilled. Yes.

01:05:25.020 So rather. Well, if it's an either or, if you're saying it's either or, I'm just saying that if

01:05:29.260 these two things are happening, have happened in your life, the thing that will bring you more

01:05:33.580 spiritual fulfillment will be children and so women who are neglecting that who are neglecting

01:05:38.380 the pathway to you know strive toward family because they think their career is going to hug

01:05:43.580 them at night or they think that when they're on their death they always get really hold on let me

01:05:48.300 show you guys something i know i'm stopping it a lot doug mpa i'm sorry i just got a lot to say

01:05:54.380 today candace owens joe rogan on religion uh here we go i think that's so bizarre to me

01:06:03.420 that we're sitting here and we're talking about the age, like as if guns were just created,

01:06:07.180 like, you know, when in reality, right. But something's wrong, but what's wrong?

01:06:11.500 It's not the guns. I'm asking you, what do you think is wrong?

01:06:13.980 Mental health.

01:06:14.620 Right. So I say, I agree with you, but I think it's the deterioration of culture altogether.

01:06:19.180 Like they used to be taught the Bible in school. Like, you know, people,

01:06:22.540 people make fun of that now. Like now we've got this culture where you're making fun of kids.

01:06:26.300 Like religion is like, we're so far away from religion. Like that's like weird to us. Like,

01:06:30.060 you know like teaching religion is like it's you've got like a scarlet letter if you come in as

01:06:34.140 like a holy christian kid and like a normal public public education thing you've got the family

01:06:39.020 structure where it's like these kids are running the house is it this one there's one where she

01:06:43.020 says she's not religion oh she says i don't study religion okay oh this is these days like i look on

01:06:48.220 like facebook and it's like supposed to be funny when like a four-year-old is acting like cardi b

01:06:52.620 i'm like okay yes it's funny because she's four but it's also like not funny because she's four

01:06:56.780 right like how do you feel about little tay who's little tay you don't know who little tay is i love

01:07:00.780 car you gotta know who little tay is little tay is kind of out of the news now because they found

01:07:05.180 that it's a hustle she's a nine-year-old asian girl from what vancouver is that where it's from

01:07:10.780 and uh she talks mad throws money around calls everybody and where is it

01:07:16.380 she just she says she's not religious in this i used to make us read the bible around the table

01:07:20.540 there was stricter gun gun only by the talks to jesus think about how weird that is right like

01:07:25.980 like how weird she wanted to publish frog and toad.

01:07:28.980 Candace is so out of it.

01:07:29.980 Pearl for real Neda keep breaking down these hoes.

01:07:32.420 The bleep is insane.

01:07:33.820 She thinks she's so smart that the stuff that we used to would be normal,

01:07:37.740 like, you know, praying, talking to Jesus.

01:07:39.420 Like when I grew up, that was like my grandparents generation.

01:07:42.140 That was, everyone was religious.

01:07:44.020 And now we're so far away from that.

01:07:46.140 Right.

01:07:46.440 That, that, that seems like, like it's okay to mock and we roundly mock it all the time.

01:07:51.140 So the structure in the home is, in my opinion, the most important thing that needs to change.

01:07:57.140 The fact that so many people are growing up without fathers in the home is something that

01:07:59.440 needs to change.

01:08:00.560 Letting your kid have...

01:08:01.520 Where is it?

01:08:02.520 Hold on.

01:08:03.280 That's all you need to know.

01:08:04.420 Is it here?

01:08:04.820 Like, you know, the reintroduction of God and teaching him to school.

01:08:08.380 And I said, like, at some point there seems to be the struggle.

01:08:11.220 I have this idea that like human beings in a certain way, we're doomed to just keep repeating

01:08:15.360 history.

01:08:15.900 I'm obsessed with Greek mythology.

01:08:17.700 I'm obsessed with like Egyptian history, hieroglyphics.

01:08:20.540 Like anything that like, where they tell stories, especially Greek mythology,

01:08:24.260 because the lessons are...

01:08:25.900 Sorry, I'm trying to find the clip.

01:08:27.820 I know it's in this one.

01:08:28.860 I...

01:08:29.340 This super smart guy is an evangelical Christian.

01:08:31.580 He is.

01:08:31.980 So does he believe like Jesus came back to life?

01:08:34.700 Yes.

01:08:35.260 Really?

01:08:35.660 Yes. He's an evangelical Christian.

01:08:36.860 So he believes that someone died and then three years, three days later,

01:08:40.700 they came back to life and that they walked on water and...

01:08:43.180 Yeah. I mean, you have to...

01:08:44.540 I haven't really gotten into it with him because I'm not like,

01:08:46.220 I'm not the person that should ever be like debating or talking about religion.

01:08:49.500 and it's not my like schtick i guess um yeah okay there it is it's not her schtick and now it's like

01:08:55.840 in her i find it kind of offensive now i'm really not the most religious i've said this but i grew

01:09:02.160 up catholic and i'd say if i had to pick i'd be catholic right i find it a little offensive she's

01:09:08.880 like grifting this now because i think there's a part of me that's the biggest catholic grifters

01:09:14.360 ever I just it's like you're using this for your brand I just don't come on like why does the

01:09:23.980 religion have to go into the podcast you know what I mean I just god I just can't these influencers

01:09:31.260 they convert for like five minutes like you're talking about all the spiritual stuff that clip

01:09:36.720 was a few years ago you know maybe you get like a decade of being religious under your belt and then

01:09:41.600 come out but now it's it's in deathbed their career is gonna come up next to them and say

01:09:50.960 you were so great to me i think that they've stepped into a delusion and i'm hopeful that

01:09:56.160 they wake up from it before it's too late sorry you've been voted out by the majority

01:10:00.400 please return to your seat i liked him actually i thought he was cool he was calm made sense

01:10:11.600 Hi. Nice to meet you. Okay. So currently women make up about 47% of the workforce. If this were

01:10:24.080 the case and that women were just inherently unhappy or unfulfilled working and would just

01:10:28.720 prefer to be at home, why don't they? Because it's, we've made that due to the cross belongs

01:10:35.420 on the altar. It's sacramental, not a knickknack for your mantle. It's just, it's just so obvious

01:10:41.060 what everyone's doing you get virtue signal points so you get to like be a good person

01:10:48.500 you get to like be a good person by having the knickknacks without having to do the work

01:10:56.020 of being a good person prior feminist waves nearly impossible because now which i believe

01:11:03.140 that the reason that the government wanted women to enter the workforce is because it gave them

01:11:06.660 an opportunity to tax a house there again there again the government wanted to enter the workforce

01:11:12.020 no no no no are women responsible for their decisions or not no when i started my podcast

01:11:21.060 i wanted i wanted to start it i'd always wanted to do it no one put a gun to my head and made

01:11:25.620 me want to do it i wasn't brainwashed i just wanted to start a podcast it wasn't anybody

01:11:30.580 else's choice it was mine sold twice and so this goes back to what i was saying is that there's a

01:11:35.940 lot of financial pressure that is being exerted on young women to enter the workforce and they do so

01:11:41.380 blindly under the solution that somehow entering the workforce is going to make you more fulfilled,

01:11:46.420 like getting yourself into six figures of debt, going to college to then take on a career and be

01:11:53.060 in debt and having to pay student loans while you make 35K is going to make you happier. And I'm

01:11:59.380 saying that isn't actually true. Okay. So I hear that. Yeah. At the same time,

01:12:03.860 would you not agree that men and that women can both have a career and have children i mean you

01:12:08.980 are actively doing that right now and i want to be very clear because i am actively doing it right

01:12:13.460 now i would be someone that you would call an exception because i get to work from home i get

01:12:17.060 to wake up in the morning i don't have a boss right i don't have to go into the office from

01:12:20.500 nine to five i get to then therefore spend the entire morning with my children you're an exception

01:12:25.540 and the 47 of women that make up our labor force are also an exception no the exact opposite so

01:12:31.620 So I'm trying to make it more realistic because I think it's really bad form when people who are able to stay at home and are able to start working at 1 o'clock p.m. as I do after being around their children, the children are running around all day, will then preach to you that every woman can have this.

01:12:50.180 That's not the reality.

01:12:51.320 The reality is that the overwhelming majority of people are stuck behind a desk all day.

01:12:56.100 and it is true i will say youtube is a great job um for like you do get to work from home that's

01:13:04.060 very nice but if she cared about her family i don't think she would go into politics

01:13:10.420 i think she would steer clear you don't you if she cared about her kids why would you enter like a

01:13:19.360 political arena publicly showing your kids face um and touch on topics that people want to

01:13:25.180 assassinate you for. So like having you, you know, you round. Candace saw too much of history's

01:13:31.800 mysteries on history channel and F Gordon Ramsay and the money channel. Okay. They're not happy.

01:13:37.340 They're not doing work that gratifies them at all. And at the same time, they're suspending.

01:13:42.000 Well, that's just what career you've chosen. But I think that the issue with your work a nine to

01:13:46.260 five, I think that's okay. Yes. But if it's the job that is making them unhappy, then maybe they

01:13:50.540 should have chosen a different career path and not the structure of the career itself. But my

01:13:54.460 issue with this okay if most kids are in public school i don't really see why women can't have

01:13:58.940 a nine to five you you get up at okay you get up at seven um the kids uh i think actually i went

01:14:06.620 to school at 7 30. so okay you get up at six oatmeal bacon there's a lot of stuff that's

01:14:14.220 pretty fast you can just give your kids drive them to school um now i guess you would have to

01:14:23.900 find them a ride home but okay you you get a ride home somehow either you alternate with your

01:14:31.340 like okay then five o'clock you can make dinner when you get home six or seven o'clock dinner

01:14:39.100 put i i don't see what i really don't see so i think women are just kind of lazy to be honest

01:14:45.740 i i just can't imagine cooking and cleaning takes that much time i mean maybe you don't

01:14:51.740 have a spotless house but or you don't make like gourmet meals but i mean did anyone die eating

01:14:58.780 oatmeal did anyone die eating eggs and bacon you know and i just i come from this perspective

01:15:07.580 because i do understand when the kids are under like um when before they're in school

01:15:14.380 but my grandma had 13 children

01:15:16.460 do you know what i mean my grandma had 13 kids so like now we're having like two maybe three

01:15:27.860 you know is that not only is it claiming that women can't both be mothers and have

01:15:34.420 sorry pearl read my mind about the religion grift and over moralizing i think it's a public persona

01:15:39.300 a candace suit ups which we know to be true because millions of women do that my mother

01:15:44.260 does that. You are actively doing it right now. But it also is qualifying what every single woman

01:15:50.220 in this country wants without any clear evidence. I mean, there's 169 million women in this country

01:15:56.380 over. How can you say that you know exactly what every woman secretly wants? Are you asking them?

01:16:01.860 I didn't. That wasn't my claim that I secretly know what every single woman wants. I'm saying

01:16:05.720 that if you measure up at the end of your life, what brought you more fulfillment, your career

01:16:10.460 or a child children raising children in your family we will discover that and there actually

01:16:16.240 have been studies people that have gone to people on their deathbeds and the number one regret that

01:16:20.280 people according to the top five regrets of the dying by brawny where too much work is the number

01:16:25.560 to regret but not living a life true to yourself is the number one i would agree i don't think

01:16:30.480 women that don't want kids should have them because then they torture the children we don't

01:16:35.880 need that how was that they gave too much to their careers and this includes men by the way

01:16:39.620 Well, yeah, that's true. I mean, of course, human relation is going to be valued over money and

01:16:43.180 profit. But at the same time, what does that even...

01:16:45.340 Don't disagree with my arguments at all. You're agreeing with my argument.

01:16:48.020 Humans prefer humans over a job, but that's not just similar to women. That's everyone.

01:16:53.820 And my question is, what does that even have to... What is the goal of that? Should every

01:16:57.000 woman quit working and just have a child? Well, I'm just trying to warn you that if you

01:17:02.060 decide to suspend that pursuit of family because you think that you have to first climb the ladder,

01:17:07.600 A lot of women make that mistake and they don't end up finding a partner.

01:17:11.060 But that's their right.

01:17:11.920 It's free will.

01:17:12.620 You would definitely have a right to make a mistake.

01:17:14.600 I agree.

01:17:16.220 People have the right to live in hell.

01:17:18.160 People do.

01:17:19.040 Get to say what people should and shouldn't do.

01:17:20.880 I didn't come.

01:17:21.560 I don't think my claim is this is what people should or should not do.

01:17:24.680 I'm just simply stating that my claim is that you will be more fulfilled if you focus on

01:17:29.640 trying to decide what other people are fulfilled by.

01:17:31.920 Okay, I'm making my claim here that women are infinitely more fulfilled in the household

01:17:37.840 and raising children than they are taking that nine to five job.

01:17:41.040 But you have no evidence of that. In fact, you are evidence against your own claim.

01:17:44.720 I'm not evidence against my own claim.

01:17:46.080 You are. You're here at work right now.

01:17:48.240 I'm literally, I've literally said, I am telling you, women cannot have it all. That is an illusion

01:17:52.960 and that is an illusion that is stressing women out. And I think it is the real-

01:17:55.760 Yes, they can. By having a nanny do it for them.

01:17:59.440 that's how you can have it all by outsourcing motherhood why why be a parent when some 510

01:18:07.460 latina can do it for you why that's how that's how they do it all any woman that says you can do it

01:18:14.620 all is paying someone to do it for them reason why so many women are turning to popping pills

01:18:23.300 why there's been such a significant more than a thousand percent increase but men can have it all

01:18:27.680 Men can be fathers and have a job, but women can't do that.

01:18:30.320 I don't think you can have it all.

01:18:31.920 It sounds like you're devaluing women.

01:18:33.520 I think that women can do everything that a man can do.

01:18:35.760 And men have done this historically throughout time immemorial.

01:18:38.480 I think women is our topic, debate topic today.

01:18:40.960 So I mean, women exist in a society with men.

01:18:43.920 We are comparing women and men.

01:18:44.960 Women are trying to be both women and men.

01:18:47.120 And that is why women are unhappy today is because actually what's quite ironic

01:18:50.960 about the feminist movement is that women are just trying to be people.

01:18:53.600 I think women have been taught that being a woman is not enough

01:18:56.960 and that you have to also aspire to be a man and that's the irony it's like a psychological

01:19:00.320 conditioning what feminists went out and did and said is that in order for women to have value

01:19:04.320 women need to be like men and i'm saying that actually no feminism women are jealous of men

01:19:10.000 and so they chose to go be like men nobody brainwashed nobody told them they did it

01:19:15.760 and men are biologically different there are differences in our behavior there are differences

01:19:20.640 in our desires and i think evidence of the feminist movement by the way shows us that

01:19:24.880 because even when women enter into the college education space, the pathways of career that we

01:19:32.160 choose are different from men because we're biologically different, right?

01:19:34.880 Okay. So let's say that this is true, that women truly are more fulfilled at home.

01:19:38.400 Now, the average cost of raising a child a year is around $21,000 or more. So my issue is,

01:19:45.040 are you saying that women should just suddenly stop working and now the onus is entirely on men?

01:19:51.040 like the society that you're pitching is not sustainable economically and i think it was

01:19:58.320 sustained economically but it's not right now cause naima you've been voted out by the majority

01:20:03.280 yeah that's true because we're taking men's money and giving it to women for doing nothing

01:20:08.000 i think more women should work i'd love to see more house husbands in my lifetime but not house

01:20:13.520 beta husbands i'd love to see more house alpha husbands like women that marry like personal

01:20:19.840 trainers for example and just pay for their life you might women aren't bringing anything else to

01:20:27.360 the table they might as well bring money from all these easy jobs i'm like i think the ultimate alpha

01:20:33.320 is a guy that can get women to pay his rent because you're like have you seen those guys

01:20:41.240 those guys are the best with women i like not in a simpy way but in a like do you know those chads

01:20:49.300 that just get women to do whatever they're like paying his rent he's still cheating

01:20:56.420 yeah marry some rich broad and divorce her and take her stuff hilarious

01:21:06.660 hi hi nice to meet you nice to meet you um so your claims that women will be happier at home

01:21:12.580 i think you're conflating though happiness with importance because i get what you're saying where

01:21:15.940 a woman can write a book and have kids, but the kids are always going to make her happier. But I

01:21:20.420 think it just means that kids are always going to be more important, not necessarily make you

01:21:23.860 happier. But also piggy packing on Naima, we don't live in an economy where people typically can have

01:21:30.900 a one income household, whether it be the mom or dad that stays home. And so I think, and you keep

01:21:36.740 bringing up the 1950s, which I just don't know if that's the period of time that you want to go back

01:21:43.020 to. I'm just going back to the first wave of feminism. But you want to undo progress that's

01:21:47.700 been done. So I'm curious as to what decade you'd be comfortable living in, especially as a black

01:21:53.940 woman. Okay. So we're going to park aside the race politics because I want to focus on.

01:21:59.680 Okay. Then as a woman, what period of time do you want to go back to?

01:22:02.680 Just as a woman, I think that it was probably a better environment for women when we understood

01:22:10.240 that raising our children was.

01:22:12.780 I heard the 60s were fun and the 70s.

01:22:17.000 I heard life was great in the 70s.

01:22:18.860 I think that's what I would pick

01:22:20.040 because actually I like today,

01:22:22.500 but I've heard the,

01:22:24.460 I would have loved to have been around

01:22:25.780 before social media

01:22:27.040 and just see what life was like back then.

01:22:31.000 Fulfilling.

01:22:31.560 But some women still do.

01:22:32.560 But I want air conditioning.

01:22:34.000 So, you know what I mean?

01:22:35.360 You understand that.

01:22:36.520 Right.

01:22:36.960 And I'm one of them.

01:22:38.420 And I'm here advocating for you to be able to live the life that you want and for other women

01:22:43.920 to be able to live the lives they want. Do you have children? No. Okay. You have a career,

01:22:47.420 I presume? Yeah. Okay. What field do you work in? I do hair. Okay. Wonderful. So I have both

01:22:53.920 children and a career, as somebody pointed out. And so the fact that I'm saying that you will be

01:22:59.440 infinitely more fulfilled at the end of the day by raising your children than you will be if you

01:23:05.140 come home and you say, wow, I really crushed it dying. Right. But we like, it's like, I can watch

01:23:09.140 what you say or watch what you do. I did an event with Candace. I was kind of starstruck. It was

01:23:17.240 kind of, it's kind of weird sometimes when you see people like you've seen on screen. I did an

01:23:21.220 event with her and it was like a month after she had her kid. Like, what are you doing?

01:23:26.180 Flying to Amsterdam. Somebody's hair today. What is it exactly that makes you angry about hearing

01:23:33.260 that like that's what i'm actually trying i'm trying to get i'm trying to get to the implicit

01:23:37.820 revolution thing is that no one is someone mentioned children no see no one's angry when

01:23:42.380 you mention children i get angry i guess when you mention that someone should have a children

01:23:47.740 or you're trying to impose a life what is she arguing she's saying i don't want to have kids

01:23:51.740 with a beta all my ex-boyfriends are beta i don't want to do it i don't i don't i don't i don't and

01:23:57.980 Candace, because the older women will tell you this, have kids with a beta, have kids with a

01:24:03.680 beta. No, I don't want to have kids with that. That's the argument going, they don't realize it,

01:24:08.200 but that's the argument. Dial onto people that you want to live, which I think is kind of funny

01:24:12.560 because as someone who's anti-feminism, you practice it more than most women do. I mean,

01:24:17.120 every time you get on your podcast. Pearl, would you say no fault divorce was a symptom of a deeper

01:24:21.160 cultural shift that had already started undermining men's roles, family, and society, or was it the

01:24:27.000 real turning point. So I had a child support officer on the

01:24:31.220 show, or I don't know his official job title. Thank you

01:24:33.780 for the super chat. By the way, you guys are being super

01:24:35.660 generous today. My understanding is that there was a lot of

01:24:41.500 requests for no fault divorce already, and that there's a lot

01:24:46.520 of people separated and not divorced. So it was just kind of

01:24:49.280 like a formality. And that matches up with what I know

01:24:53.280 about like my family, like the grandparents and great

01:24:56.400 grandparents a lot of people didn't like they were just separated um and i really think all of

01:25:04.160 this is just nature correcting itself because most men didn't get to produce historically

01:25:08.660 so now women and then they enforced monogamy because it gets too violent if like the

01:25:15.600 like the bottom third of men are sexless so then it gets violent so the you know the people in

01:25:21.060 charge we're like okay we need monogamy and the women were like no the women are like we won't be

01:25:28.980 straddled down with betas and this is what we got every time you collect a check you're practicing

01:25:35.500 feminism okay that's what you think no that's what it is actually without feminism you wouldn't be

01:25:40.500 able to exist people keep saying i hate when people say that but it just shows that you you

01:25:44.540 haven't done the research to even understand where the or you don't know history which was

01:25:48.100 discover that that's what I'm saying about you because it means there was always female anti-feminist

01:25:52.000 writers though always is that you don't understand that a bunch of government officials in the CIA

01:25:56.760 funded the feminist movement so for all of your hatred for the patriarchy and so my question is

01:26:02.020 is it bad that they funded it or bad that it just happened men wanted men wanted women to go into

01:26:07.220 the workforce the government which had a lot of men it was being are you talking about because

01:26:11.300 world war ii occurred and we had to go to factories and then when we left the factories

01:26:15.040 they forced us back into the homes. That's not what I'm saying at all. So let me tell you what

01:26:19.040 I'm saying and then you can respond to it. Gloria Steinem was considered to be a feminist icon,

01:26:24.560 right? Because she led these protests. She also had a bunch of music festivals. She got students

01:26:31.920 involved. It is just a fact that Gloria Steinem was funded by the CIA. Okay. The CIA being the

01:26:39.920 male dominated CIA of the fifties and the sixties funded those movements. So what, what, what do you

01:26:46.480 think was the explicit aim? Do you think it was because the government really wanted you to be

01:26:50.640 more free that they wanted to encourage women to enter the workforce? Well, I have to be honest

01:26:54.320 with you. I couldn't speak on behalf of the government. The women nagged them into it in

01:26:58.560 their lives. Guarantee it. Some guys, women just nagged. I mean, and what their intention,

01:27:04.480 I think it's important because you just said that I don't know history. And I think it's

01:27:07.200 pretty important if you're going to sit across from me and say, I don't know history that you

01:27:09.680 learn a piece of history and then question as you keep bringing up men and i think it's funny because

01:27:14.000 we should talk about men more like you brought up suicide they're four times more likely to kill

01:27:18.160 themselves which is why and while women we're twice as more often on antidepressants but that's

01:27:22.480 because we go out and do what we need to do to keep coping because we're not happy and we need

01:27:25.680 to focus on men and the patriarchy because it's actually oppressed them just as much as women now

01:27:30.400 emotionally right because when we're kids we our parents teach us how to cross street look both

01:27:35.520 ways so you can get the other side unharmed. When a boy comes across a feeling, and I'm using men and

01:27:40.000 boys here because they're the ones suffering. Women are too, but emotionally. When they come

01:27:45.040 across a feeling they haven't felt before, we have to teach them how to get to the other side and

01:27:49.600 cope with it. Otherwise they stay where they are. That anger and resentment builds. That's the

01:27:54.560 feeling they become most comfortable with. That's the feeling they go to first in most situations.

01:27:58.880 So we need to stop telling our boys that they don't cry because they do. They just do it alone

01:28:03.440 and then they become even more alone. You're fat.

01:28:15.920 All right. Nice to meet you. Okay, so you say that women are more fulfilled at home with kids

01:28:22.880 than going out into the workforce or getting educated, but that just really doesn't bear out.

01:28:26.480 When you look at the stats, when you look at how working mothers are way less likely to be in

01:28:30.240 in poverty. Maternal education is the number one predictor of childhood outcomes, better scores,

01:28:36.080 getting higher incomes in the future, fewer behavioral problems, better mental health.

01:28:40.000 So it's weird to me with, and college-educated women are least likely to get divorced,

01:28:44.560 and they're the only women, the top 10% of women are the only women whose marriage rates are going

01:28:48.640 up. So they're getting married, they're staying married, and their kids are doing better. When

01:28:52.400 you look at stay-at-home mothers, you see that they're more likely to report being depressed,

01:28:55.840 they're more likely to report having um anxiety and anger and all these types of things so how

01:29:01.280 can you say that she won't be the speak for the government but she will but she will speak for men

01:29:06.400 smh seems like a woman if you want to get married and have kids you should go to college and have a

01:29:11.520 career so i it sounds to me like we are looking at totally different statistics because everything

01:29:15.360 that you said i've actually read the exact opposite i'm glad let's not talk about like

01:29:20.240 Like I do studies because I have to, like, it's part of my job.

01:29:24.840 I can't just not use studies, but let's talk about what we see in real life.

01:29:32.480 What do you see?

01:29:33.300 Are women unhappy?

01:29:34.680 I don't see young women being unhappy.

01:29:38.780 I see old women unhappy when they can't get the attention from alphas anymore.

01:29:43.580 That's who I see.

01:29:44.680 That's when women crash out on a fact check show with you.

01:29:47.320 Exactly.

01:29:47.780 It's so exciting.

01:29:48.920 That's going to be amazing.

01:29:49.780 Okay, because I know like I said, I think what we're talking about is that there was this widespread report on this girl

01:29:55.620 Get fat my god

01:29:58.340 Female happiness and I know that it was it was formally debunked and it was

01:30:01.620 That's not what I'm talking about Pew Research University of California

01:30:04.500 In fact working mothers today spend more time with their children than women did in the 1960s that were at home

01:30:09.940 Okay, both women that I can tell you women that are at home are obviously spending more time with their children than the people who are at

01:30:15.380 And their children are not faring off any better and they're faring off worse

01:30:18.180 How are you measuring their children faring off worse?

01:30:20.980 How likely they are to higher incomes, better scores, fewer health problems, fewer behavioral issues, and better mental.

01:30:27.540 So just to get back to the claim that I'm making here is that it is obvious that women who have children are going to be more fulfilled.

01:30:35.180 How is that obvious?

01:30:36.360 Because you said that?

01:30:39.680 No, it's not obvious because I said so.

01:30:42.000 It's because when you look.

01:30:42.920 Candace is getting kind of tripped up.

01:30:45.820 They're kind of, I mean, it's tough.

01:30:47.160 i it's a tough environment having like 20 people yell at you and just take shots

01:30:53.480 i would the way i would have handled that is just say look for the purpose of this debate

01:30:57.800 i am awful i am a bad person can we move on to the topics and the studies like that's that is

01:31:06.120 how i would handle it i'd say look i understand i am a hypocrite i'm a bad person i get it you guys

01:31:12.440 don't like me. What, like, can we move on? That's what I would say. That's how I would do it.

01:31:18.860 Look at all the statistics in terms of women who are choosing not to have families.

01:31:21.940 They are, as the person who just sat here before you mentioned, they are suffering from more

01:31:27.020 depression. They're suffering from more anxiety. And that's not true. Okay. It is true. It is

01:31:31.820 actually true that women who are choosing their careers over starting families are finding

01:31:36.200 themselves leaning more on to on to medicines like xanax anxiety inducing medicines and depression

01:31:42.440 because they suspended that time frame where women really should be looking to find a partner and to

01:31:46.680 start a family because they were instead pursuing their careers why are there has been a there it

01:31:51.320 has been it is a dishonest women don't like men that much men drive us crazy they annoy us it's

01:31:58.280 because we hate things that we can't control we can control children we can control the narrative

01:32:03.640 we can control the media, we can control the workforce, we can control our income to some

01:32:07.640 extent. But we can't control men. Men are uncontrollable. And that's why it drives women

01:32:13.680 crazy. It's totally a dishonest narrative that men and women want the same things out of life.

01:32:18.360 We don't. We absolutely do not want the same things out of life. In fact, we don't even measure

01:32:21.300 we don't even measure success the same. Men and women don't even measure success the same.

01:32:26.120 So but tell me how the women who are working and getting educated, why are they faring off better

01:32:31.500 in all of these measures. I am telling you that I do not believe they are faring off better in all

01:32:35.700 of these measures. And you're doing that because of what? I am telling you that we are looking at

01:32:40.360 totally opposite statistics. So you're sitting here telling me that the statistics show that

01:32:44.160 women who are working are producing better children. But I am saying that women that grow

01:32:48.160 up in a two-family home where the mother stays at home are faring off better than the children who

01:32:52.700 are being raised in an environment where the women are working, where both of the parents are

01:32:56.520 why don't you stay home i do get to work no no no but you i mean i've watched your show you talk

01:33:01.560 about all the nannies you hire and it's so hard to find i've heard from people in the industry

01:33:07.440 she has a lot of nannies don't know if that's true but that's what i've heard i never talked

01:33:12.600 about all of the nannies i hire you have i spoke about how difficult it was to find a babysitter

01:33:17.260 who knew how to cook a meal but so now candace is entering into her frame candace should have

01:33:23.140 dismissed it what would i have said i would have said you talk about all the nannies you hire

01:33:33.360 yeah a million nannies thousand hundred thousand or you just dismiss you move on like she's

01:33:43.160 now like she's defending herself why do you and this is something i had to like internally look

01:33:49.180 at why do you feel the need to defend yourself like to an only fans model your butt is on the

01:33:56.300 internet i don't have that's maybe what what would you put in the chat what would you tell candace

01:34:02.700 to overcome this objection i would either agree and amplify so you know you just say yep

01:34:08.700 you know i'm the worst mother ever um i'm a terrible person so can we just move on

01:34:14.300 or I would go a different route and say, let me listen to the rest meal. And that's because

01:34:31.020 you don't need a babysitter. You're already, you could retire right now. Let people respond to you

01:34:35.160 when they're, when they're speaking, you don't want to, to respond to you when you don't want

01:34:39.460 to, you want to be working, which is great. You are telling me what I want now. It's true. I mean,

01:34:43.980 her husband's worth 180 million she doesn't need to be doing this but she's like choosing to put

01:34:50.960 herself in politics which will affect her create with her kids um yeah which is fine i'm not saying

01:34:57.820 she shouldn't i'm saying it's not what she's selling and then accusing me of telling you

01:35:02.940 wait are you you don't want to work can you just let me finish because you've said so many words

01:35:06.300 that you just what you're trying to do here like your argument style is i'm going to say so much

01:35:10.380 not let her get a word in and then walk away and feel like I've won. We're not having a conversation

01:35:14.000 because you're not letting me respond to one of your points. Okay. What I am saying to you for

01:35:18.420 first to answer what you just said, which was a lie. What I spoke to about on the weekends is that

01:35:22.740 it's been increasingly difficult to find a 25 year old who even knows how to make box macaroni

01:35:28.680 and cheese. Right. And that's crazy. That's, and that is in large part due to feminism. Women don't

01:35:33.180 even focus. Women don't even focus. Like there's this, there's this, there's this idea. It's not

01:35:37.260 really feminism it's uber eats that's really it yeah that women shouldn't be cooking like there's

01:35:45.000 something fundamentally wrong with women even learning how to cook are you know what i mean

01:35:47.960 as much time with your children as you possibly can because that's the way to get the most

01:35:51.320 fulfillment no and that's what i'm trying to say i am speaking to you and stop okay could you please

01:35:56.160 let somebody get in i did not you actually have not let anybody finish like i said it's it's no

01:36:04.700 one benefits when you're just speaking over me and not allowing me to respond all you're proving

01:36:08.440 is that you have an attitude and you so again i would have dismissed it let's get back to the

01:36:16.100 topic and now like you can't by saying oh no like now she that's why i think jasmine actually won

01:36:22.560 this because candace keeps entering into her frame feminism but you're not you see you're

01:36:28.500 that's what i'm saying you just have an attitude and it's not it's not trying to it's performative

01:36:32.320 I'm actually my point. I will be quiet if you address my point. Does anybody actually feel

01:36:36.460 here that I am being allowed to address any of her points when she just running over me?

01:36:40.860 Like you, I'm literally trying to answer your first point of you saying that I don't stay at

01:36:46.260 home. Fair point. Obviously I get that you're all anti-Candice and pro-feminist, but also it's not

01:36:54.520 productive. Oh, that's a great response. Candice should pay us for this. Thank you. $5 super chat.

01:37:01.740 what she is doing for her culture war shtick is for her kids so they won't date gynocentric nut

01:37:08.580 jobs we all know it's not but that's a great response do you know what i mean you're not

01:37:15.960 actually okay address the point you spend more time saying that i'm not addressing that you you

01:37:19.700 don't have a chance to talk i mean the whole time you could have addressed the point you could have

01:37:23.180 talked i i go for it just want you to know that you're not coming across as somebody who wants

01:37:26.600 to actually have a conversation so to get back to the claim because i don't even know where you're

01:37:30.280 at. You're now talking, you're saying that I said stuff in my podcast. I'll go wherever you want to

01:37:32.960 go. I'll go wherever you want to go. Do you want to start with me working at home? Because I work

01:37:36.840 at home. You just said something about me working at home. You travel all around the world. You do

01:37:41.600 speeches. And I love that. I love how ambitious you are. That's a really great trait. And if you

01:37:45.760 were truly savvy, you would be more fulfilled. Now, one thing you do find is women, they don't

01:37:49.680 want to stay at home when you pull them. They just want flexible working hours and flexible

01:37:52.860 working conditions like you have. And I think we should all advocate for that. It's not one or the

01:37:57.000 other. But when you sit here and you go, you'll be more fulfilled doing this and spend all your

01:38:00.360 time doing that. We would love for you to leave the public eye and go focus on what makes you

01:38:03.800 fulfilled. Okay. She cooked. It's pretty embarrassing. That was a great response. If

01:38:17.300 you had anything else that she should have added, it's tough. It's a personal attack.

01:38:21.040 but that's what happens when you use your kids to build your brand

01:38:24.980 i had a public relationship once and i regret it with everything in me

01:38:30.080 making it public you know what i mean it's just uh yeah you don't want to do that that's why i'm

01:38:36.080 kind of iffy when i talk about like my personal life because people just use it to weaponize like

01:38:42.020 weaponize it against you and you you learn this when you get into media but yeah if you cosplay

01:38:48.960 trad and you're like putting on your instagram stories you cooking for your husband and stuff

01:38:53.440 yeah that's what you get hey before we go any further we want to take a moment to say thanks

01:39:00.800 so much to straight air news for powering the we live under a mate uh all right so we got half of

01:39:07.120 it okay we'll because let's see we're about an hour into this video i want to do this tomorrow

01:39:14.480 too i'm just debating how i want to cut it we'll do a little bit we live under a matriarchy not

01:39:18.720 a patriarchy. Patriarchy, not a patriarchy.

01:39:26.560 Hey, hello. Nice to meet you. It's a pleasure to meet you. I'm Princella, the queen maker.

01:39:30.800 I love that. So you say we live in a matriarchy. Right. Can you give me the definition of patriarchy?

01:39:37.120 Yes. Well, the patriarchy is the idea that the system, our system in America,

01:39:42.000 is being run by men and that women are having to exist under a system that- You know what I

01:39:46.960 would say if i was candace the good response i do work i have to bring home the bacon for my husband

01:39:56.640 i got to give him king treatment i got to treat him like a king you know is jasmine jafar five um

01:40:03.360 i would put her as more attractive than candace unfortunately um i'd put her at like a 6.5 because

01:40:09.680 she's younger a little prettier i'd say even though she has work immediately disadvantages

01:40:15.680 them because men are behind it. And I disagree with that pointedly. I think actually we're living

01:40:20.480 in a society where people are being very much influenced socially and politically by women.

01:40:26.400 Okay. So the denotative definition of patriarchy is father rule and where positions of government

01:40:34.800 are held majorly by men, where women are largely excluded. So 125 House of Representatives

01:40:44.240 are female. And that's only about 25%. Right. And only about 28.

01:40:49.840 Right. But they have to cater to women because women are the biggest swing voting block.

01:40:54.000 30% make up Senate and 3.3% of Congress up until this date have ever been women.

01:40:59.840 So by denotative definition, we literally live in a patriarchy.

01:41:03.280 Yes. So I disagree with that. So I think what this gets to, which is actually an important

01:41:07.040 part of the conversation, is that people always think that where there is disparity,

01:41:10.720 there's somehow inequality, and I actually reject that entirely. I think it's just a difference in

01:41:15.280 what we're interested in. I think we're biologically wired, we're interested in different careers.

01:41:19.920 And just because if we looked in the fashion industry and said, oh, well, it's being dominated

01:41:23.840 by women, it wouldn't mean that, okay, well, that means that the fashion industry is a matriarchy

01:41:28.880 and men have no sense. It just means have no ability to communicate how they feel in the

01:41:32.960 fashion industry. I literally think that those numbers show that we're just biologically

01:41:36.640 different. So I actually think politically, women have shown that they have a lot more power than

01:41:44.080 men have. And I'm talking about just in terms of political movements. The most recent I can think

01:41:48.360 of is the Me Too movement, right? If a bunch of women get together and complain about a man and

01:41:53.760 refer to the patriarchy and scream, generally speaking, let me know if you agree, the media

01:41:59.200 will celebrate that. If a bunch of men got together and were shrieking and speaking about women,

01:42:04.380 generally speaking, the media would call them all white supremacists and say that we had a

01:42:09.780 misogyny problem and that things were really wrong in society. Women are allowed to be more

01:42:13.520 vocal in general about problems than men are. Well, let me speak to that. When we're talking

01:42:18.220 about government and media, these are two different things. So under the denotative

01:42:23.240 definition of a patriarchy by the percentages that are occupied in the government, which is

01:42:30.160 majority male defines us as a patriarchy. Now, what it comes to for capitalism, for marketing

01:42:37.600 purposes and control for capital and revenue, that is a totally different conversation.

01:42:43.520 But who's making the laws? I don't think that women are the ones voting to have their

01:42:49.120 reproductive rights taken away, where you have rape, incest, and all of these things excluded

01:42:55.280 to force women to be able to... I don't think women in government would largely vote against

01:43:00.880 their own interests because it's majority male patriarchy. Yeah, but you have to cater to the

01:43:06.240 voting block. That should have been our answer. I think... Love that point. Are women allowed to

01:43:11.680 vote? Oh, of course they are. Who's voting that patriarchy and then out of curiosity?

01:43:16.400 No, I totally agree. And you want to know why? Because there are so many women who think like

01:43:22.480 you you submit to the idea of men ruling everything and your ideology is spread across

01:43:29.840 i think what i would say in these debates would get me kicked off of youtube

01:43:35.600 yeah because they're better at everything

01:43:39.360 and you guys are nuts i i don't want a woman in charge not all women not all women oh i can't

01:43:47.280 is that hard for you guys as men just thinking these things and not being able to say it government

01:43:51.920 media are not separate things operation mockingbird is alive and well thank you a lot of women who

01:43:57.840 also falsely believe to vote against their own interests just to complain about it in the end

01:44:04.640 you know you earlier you said that you know women would be much more happier working uh at home but

01:44:12.400 don't you agree that it's human nature to want things that you don't have so during the 1950s

01:44:20.320 which is something that you constantly bring up you know it wasn't until 1994 that it was legally

01:44:25.920 illegal to beat your wife and so what we're dealing with is people wanting something and

01:44:32.560 then when they get it they're not happy with it and then they have to women are never happy

01:44:38.000 so like the first mistake was ever trying to appease women because you could give them the

01:44:42.000 world and they still won't be happy revoke that idea for something else and so what you're saying

01:44:47.520 is that women vote for these things because they have the same mentality as you.

01:44:52.800 Okay. So you're acknowledging that women have the freedom to vote.

01:44:55.600 Yes.

01:44:56.080 And you're saying that women are still existing mentally, even with the freedom to vote.

01:45:00.640 Correct.

01:45:00.960 They are voting men in because we are still victims of...

01:45:04.800 No, I don't believe in victimhood. I believe in lack of education and lack of knowledge,

01:45:08.560 because one of the things that you also say...

01:45:10.560 You think that it could just be that more men are running for positions of office?

01:45:13.680 no not necessarily because remember the united states the average reading comprehension of

01:45:18.960 people i think it's because men are better at everything but not all not all not all

01:45:27.440 in the united states is sixth grade so we're not dealing with educated people lack of education

01:45:32.960 is the cause for what we see in the world and if we educate the women better because a nation can

01:45:39.680 rise no higher than this woman. And if she reading and comprehending at a sixth grade level and popping

01:45:44.480 out a lot of kids, you know, because the brokest people in the world pop out the most kids.

01:45:48.960 So if we have those people voting, of course, they're going to vote against their interests

01:45:53.040 because they voting for some utopian society that will never exist.

01:45:57.280 Okay. So that's why you think Kamala lost.

01:46:00.080 This ain't even about Kamala.

01:46:01.200 You're talking about women. No, but we had an opportunity.

01:46:04.240 Yeah, go ahead.

01:46:04.800 We had a male running and we had a few-

01:46:06.640 yeah go ahead and say they're like pearl just say it yeah you i was unemployed for a year and a half

01:46:13.040 that was not a fun year and a half i thank you guys every day for the super chat but that was a

01:46:17.840 tough do you know what it's like i i did this show basically throughout the whole time and

01:46:22.880 you guys saw me my mood was terrible because i was working for free yeah so um yeah female running

01:46:33.120 and we actually showed that Trump increased the amount of women who voted for him, right?

01:46:38.560 Mm-hmm. Because Trump's an alpha. That's why. Women love alpha men.

01:46:44.800 I'm asking you, do you believe that the reason that happened was because

01:46:49.680 women became less educated during that time? They've always been less educated. Did you know

01:46:54.960 that UNESCO says that two-thirds of the 7.7 million illiterate adults is women?

01:47:02.240 we always can't even read oh that's hilarious i feel like i can't read sometimes

01:47:14.280 you know i'm actually do you know what's funny about that oh my god i'm gonna cook they're

01:47:19.140 gonna cook me they're gonna cook me they're sometimes i'll read like words that i you guys

01:47:25.460 notice it like i just can't pronounce them i don't know how i've literally thought about taking a

01:47:30.180 reading class. But that is hilarious. We want, we want us to have an equal say when two thirds of

01:47:35.800 adults who can't read are women. Illiterate. And we have sixth grade educated people voting and

01:47:45.160 guess who? God help us. That gets the dominant population is white women. And so guess what?

01:47:51.520 Now. Hey, us too. You have to add a race element into that, which you already know exists because

01:47:58.000 we as black folks we ain't the dominant people voting people in okay so now when we have to go

01:48:04.080 into white supremacy and feminism now you have to look at the mind of the people who actually have

01:48:12.240 economic success and what they're voting for because classism actually matters as well so

01:48:18.640 i'm sorry but a lot of people vote based on their feelings and not based on policy pause guys yes

01:48:24.000 sorry you've been voted out by them she's almost more feminine than candace in a weird way even

01:48:28.240 though she's doing the dyke thing so she's like talking slowly calm cool collected majority

01:48:34.320 although to be fair it's tough to be calm when you have like 10 people coming for you

01:48:39.120 at once i've been there it's tough thank you for the rest of the conversation

01:48:43.840 hi hi how are you good to meet this dude it's you i'm doing well so i view this argument as

01:48:57.200 a matter of fact right this is a descriptive claim about the uh culture reality we live in and uh

01:49:03.120 patriarchy being a system in which men hold the predominance of power in both political economic

01:49:09.680 and social uh methods of organization so s p 500 companies 90 of ceos are men board board members

01:49:17.360 70 of ceos are men seven because we can't do it if we could we would or if we wanted to we would

01:49:24.160 if percent of congressional members are men now you may we could start our own company and just

01:49:28.960 go provide some sort of naturalistic argument to why that is but what you're essentially arguing

01:49:34.560 then is that there's a natural patriarchy, which I think feminists would all disagree with. We think

01:49:40.300 that there's a clear social pressure as to why this is. And part of the evidence for that is

01:49:47.060 since feminisms arise within our public culture, we've now seen an explosion of women entering

01:49:53.900 these fields, but we have a long way to go. But fundamentally, the claim regarding patriarchy

01:49:58.740 or matriarchy, we are so much closer to where we were just a few decades ago or several,

01:50:04.940 a couple of generations ago where women couldn't hold a credit card than a system where men can't

01:50:09.140 hold a credit card. We're still much closer to that form of society.

01:50:12.620 Why would you say that we're closer to that? What do you mean by that? Did you just qualify that?

01:50:15.900 Because in terms of economic power, so for example, household wealth, women own 55 cents

01:50:23.040 to every dollar a man owns. Who controls household spending though?

01:50:26.160 You talk about how the money's made in America.

01:50:29.020 How is it being spent?

01:50:30.200 So it's primarily spent by women, as you've noted,

01:50:33.840 but then the money where the profit's being generated.

01:50:36.140 It's being generated by men.

01:50:37.180 Would you rather be the people that are spending

01:50:38.320 and deciding on what the money's being spent on?

01:50:40.160 Would you rather be the person that's just working to earn that?

01:50:43.620 Well, CEOs and board members aren't working.

01:50:45.860 They own the shares and they're making the profit.

01:50:48.360 Well, when you own it, profit is making.

01:50:51.120 Yeah, you would much, in a capitalist system, by definition,

01:50:55.180 you would much rather be making the profit than spending.

01:50:57.980 I would much rather be spending your money than having to work for your money.

01:51:01.440 Just so we are totally clear here, I would much rather spend your money

01:51:04.780 than have to go out and earn your money.

01:51:06.980 You're talking about wage laborers in terms of working,

01:51:09.320 but in terms of who actually owns the wealth.

01:51:09.800 No, I'm speaking about spending power.

01:51:11.560 Yeah, well, sure.

01:51:13.220 But that matters.

01:51:14.060 If 85 cents of every dollar, how that's being spent,

01:51:17.820 is being determined by women, that's power.

01:51:20.620 We can't say spending power is not power.

01:51:22.240 Why do you think that is the case?

01:51:24.260 It's because women are often relegated to the role of doing grocery shopping, et cetera.

01:51:29.160 Because for millennia now.

01:51:31.120 I mean, you can even Uber Eats groceries now.

01:51:33.820 What more do we want?

01:51:35.460 From millennia up until now, women were unable to enter the workforce and have economic and political freedom.

01:51:43.140 So let's get into the reasons, because you brought up something, that men are the people that are at the top of these companies, these Fortune 500 companies.

01:51:49.700 And political power.

01:51:50.900 You're absolutely right.

01:51:51.560 pearl reed you are so dead on as long as they think they're getting their cake and eating it too

01:51:55.640 they think they're happy when they are still yet too young to reap the results yet

01:52:02.920 let me see what else we got um pearl what is the one thing that a guy gets from a woman

01:52:09.080 that is specifically unique to women's sex and feminine appearance everything else

01:52:13.160 um can come from alternative sources yeah i want to see if there's any more

01:52:19.000 by the way we get unlimited super chats on the website so it's 10 bucks a month we're about to

01:52:26.320 move um the school into the app so everything's going to be on the app i think i fixed the app

01:52:32.000 so if you guys could confirm that i did if you can see it in google play in the app store it's

01:52:37.380 the audacity network you know help a girl out um i see it on my phone but i just want to make sure

01:52:43.340 you guys are um we're going to spend some time on the website so if you guys have any comments

01:52:49.820 questions complaints concerns feel free to tell doug mpa um in the community section of the website

01:52:57.580 and then we will we're actually we have time to get to it again we're a little short-staffed

01:53:02.380 because of the year and a half but now we're we're moving mountains he's just got to give us a little

01:53:07.940 time. Why is that? It's primarily because the women haven't broken the ceiling quite yet in

01:53:13.760 terms of meeting men. One more. This guy has a nightstand full of dildos. In terms of parity

01:53:21.220 with these sort of powers. But what we've seen with the explosion of feminism is that women

01:53:25.880 have actually begun to enter these companies, have risen into both political and economic

01:53:32.720 positions of power. But that continues to grow year by year, which shows that these social

01:53:37.640 pressures are actually breaking apart as soon as feminism comes into play.

01:53:41.760 So what I would say is what that shows you is that women and men have different interests.

01:53:45.980 And I think this gets into what I was saying, that just because you see a dis...

01:53:48.880 Men like making money, women like being lazy. That's the different interests.

01:53:54.380 Disparity does not mean that it's not just a disparity in what our interests are. That's

01:53:57.560 what's being represented. I don't know why there has been this idea that women should

01:54:01.820 want to aspire to work 80 hours a week in order to be on par with men women don't want to do that

01:54:09.260 they don't do you think that interests are innate or do you think i think the interests are innate

01:54:13.900 so why is it then that for example in the 1980s only a quarter of college graduates were women

01:54:19.100 were now majority of college graduates are women that shows that because of the way that social

01:54:23.420 pressures have actually changed women's interests are actually now changing too a majority i think

01:54:27.820 or at least half of uh law school graduates are now women it used to be the case in for example

01:54:33.420 a few hundred years ago that a lot of uh primary philosophers like emmanuel hagel didn't even

01:54:38.460 believe women could be reasonable now here you are today doing a debate with they can't be

01:54:45.900 we can't be look i might be reasonable right now but i mean who knows i might be unreasonable

01:54:53.420 tomorrow i've seen more reasonable women than me become completely unreasonable

01:55:00.860 god we can only hope you know what i mean with me where we're using logic and reason

01:55:05.580 to get to the absolute and nobody here would dismiss the claim that you can't be rational

01:55:09.980 or logical or be a for example a great lawyer because you're a woman right so i i totally

01:55:16.060 agree with you that women but i think they have actually entered into the workforce i mean entered

01:55:20.220 into college under this external pressure of feeling that if you don't go to the best thing

01:55:23.980 about women crying for equality is when it arrives when accountability is part of the deal hence the

01:55:28.340 student loan issue yep college are going to be a failure so you'd make the pressures are a part of

01:55:33.560 the way interests yes but we're disagreeing on where the pressure is coming from like i think

01:55:37.260 that now the pressure is that if a woman doesn't enter the force it's there's there's no longer

01:55:41.040 this idea that okay we're going to come together as a family whereas there was this reality that

01:55:45.360 there was this understanding that you would have a partner people were getting married when they

01:55:48.560 were 18, 19 years old, our grandparents. Now it's because of feminism. And I'm saying this is

01:55:53.680 actually, this is the downside of feminism. Women no longer have that sense. They think that if

01:55:59.040 they have to be pressured to go take out a loan, to go to college, and then you have the pressure

01:56:03.520 to get. Well, they have the same pressures as men because women no longer rely on it for an income.

01:56:08.080 Pause. You've been voted out by the majority. We're going to end it on him. So tomorrow we're

01:56:12.480 going to finish this we're at 54 minutes and i i'm really excited to react to feminism has made

01:56:19.880 things easier for men um to the editors make that part of the title in the cut like in the quotes

01:56:26.240 put candace's face and put quotes feminism has made things easier for men other thing um on the

01:56:33.160 pearl learning platform we're making i'm making a really in-depth course about how to build a

01:56:38.800 YouTube channel. It's going to go through like the basically the routes you're going to go if you

01:56:46.920 want to learn the skills yourself or if you want to hire someone to do them and how to pick good

01:56:52.580 and bad editors. Because I can tell you mistakes I've made good choices I've made. We recently had

01:56:58.520 a woman graduate law school with Down syndrome. Damn, they're letting anybody go. But so if you

01:57:03.160 guys have specific questions that have to do with um how to build a youtube channel i i really want

01:57:10.040 to make this like a really extensive course so um also in the next few weeks i'm gonna bring back

01:57:18.740 the tuesday like bringing people on to give presentations i do apologize for the slowdown

01:57:24.840 when we are filming content for the um course uh because we have some course content already we

01:57:30.980 just you know again a year and a half of unstaffed now we're getting things moving again which is

01:57:38.080 really great because we have really good team in place but um yeah so pearl ever since you got

01:57:46.020 demonetized has pierce not invited you back on his show um yeah if you guys have questions for

01:57:51.860 the end of the show i don't mind doing i'm just putting the super chat um yeah i mean i think

01:57:58.720 pierce stopped inviting me on one because i left england like they liked i would come on the show

01:58:04.000 and two um i'm just not as famous or like well known as i used to be you know i mean like at the

01:58:10.800 one point this channel had a billion views i was getting 100 million views a month and i like

01:58:15.920 skyrocketed and it was almost in a way that wasn't the smartest i really enjoy my level of fame now

01:58:23.600 i really do um because i i enjoy this job but i don't really like there's a point where i was

01:58:32.000 kind of nervous i couldn't live a normal life like you don't really want to feel like

01:58:38.960 you can't do normal things without people tweeting about it or text you know or just like you know

01:58:45.520 like nobody wants to go in public and feel like everybody's watching them and just ready to

01:58:49.840 so i would say it's probably because i just don't get the views i used to get um

01:58:56.080 you know does anyone else have any questions um let me read the other thing if you guys want to

01:59:06.940 donate to the divorce documentary um that's really been a long project of mine i'd really

01:59:12.580 like to finish it but we just got to get to 100k um then i can really put real moves we've got 31

01:59:19.220 000 which is pretty cool pretty cool you guys are great um but i really want to have like

01:59:26.340 a six months to a year salary saved for the person we hired to do this and the reason is um i would

01:59:33.940 hate to start and stop again because that's really what happened last time um let's see what we got

01:59:40.980 i don't know i don't need bodyguards um

01:59:49.300 i don't well i don't want to say that i don't want to jinx it but

01:59:55.260 i can live a normal life now but after the tate interview everywhere i went i would be recognized

02:00:02.100 like i couldn't really go outside and not have someone come up to me and want to take a picture

02:00:07.500 and stuff um i still do now but it's just a lot less where i can just live a lot more normal of

02:00:14.340 life um pearl i dipped out um did you answer my chat about needing an editor okay so um

02:00:22.740 i'm not hiring for the documentary thing i'm raising the money first once we raise the money

02:00:29.540 i'll look into that um we are hiring clippers so we have to figure out the onboarding process but

02:00:37.120 i have a lot of clips channels that are monetized um and i'm doing 20 80 splits with people there's

02:00:43.200 no cap so but we need to train the people we on board on how to not get um i i need you guys to

02:00:53.360 not clip or do certain i need you guys to stay within guidelines in your clippings so you can't

02:01:00.540 get hate speech in the title or the thumbnail so we got to figure out a way to manage that

02:01:06.780 so once we figure that out we are doing 20 80 splits um and there's gonna be an affiliate

02:01:15.020 program with that for the course uh let's see what else

02:01:22.620 if there's anything else i should read otherwise we're gonna end the show because i gotta

02:01:30.540 I think that's it that's all I got um well thank you guys for watching I really appreciate it as

02:01:50.420 usual you guys are a pleasure thank you so much for allowing me to do what I do I'm very grateful

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Candace Owens Debates Feminists ｜ Pearl Reacts

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