00:14:02.660Oh, this was so fun out. Sex outside of marriage, that sort of thing. But it looks like, let's not play pretend 3% of people are waiting till they're married. That's not really common. I mean, was anyone here virgin on their wedding night? Anyone? No? Okay.
00:14:18.660so why do we ah sorry so yeah you got lauren chen you know she got married young
00:14:26.320but again she's still podcasting she's still streaming until she got caught taking russia
00:14:31.180money nothing against her right but you're not what you say you are
00:14:37.160you're not and that's that's what i'm kind of going towards you guys could just stick to the
00:14:43.980facts, right? Of the case, but you make your personal life, your brand, you know? So if you
00:14:49.300do that, you know, Brett, if you make a, an editorial about your wedding, which could be
00:14:53.940personal, which I, you know, I'm not saying it should be, but when you make it public to me,
00:14:58.980I'm like, Oh, you don't care about God. You don't care about traditionalism. You care about
00:15:03.040building your brand. And that's totally fine. I, you know, I think at times there's marriages
00:15:08.420that are pragmatic i think historically people cared about merging together um i don't know like
00:15:17.380what do you call it like countries would get together and you know people people get married
00:15:22.020for political reasons and socio-economic reasons i'm not i'm not faulting that i'm not even saying
00:15:27.460you're wrong but what i'm saying is what you say you are you're not and that's where i get annoyed
00:15:32.420what you're pushing is not even something that you can do um if i pretend all right so it's like
00:15:39.940yeah and i got to go through and i want i want you guys to know this is not an attack this is
00:15:45.060not an attack this is not an attack but if you look at the facts you know you know rachel's
00:15:48.900been divorced i'm over 25 you know i didn't marry young um and moody's got some stuff in her past
00:15:57.140to that you know resurfaced on the internet i'm not i'm not going to go into it um chen
00:16:03.460you know chen the only one with a clean record she still waited like five years to have a kid
00:16:08.580after being married so okay you're taking some kind of birth control which is fine i'm not whatever
00:16:13.860uh but it's just okay come on like i just i just wanna
00:16:19.700i just want to be real with what's going on here you know oh yeah that yeah so um okay let's go to
00:16:29.820this one to sleep with one and i think it's mean to sell hope i think it's so mean to promise
00:16:36.260people something that there's no evidence is coming i think that's mean i think people waste
00:16:42.760years of their lives waiting for something that's never going to come so i won't do that
00:16:49.700person for the rest of your life the truth behind this viral post on x and in this article
00:16:55.500she basically talked about why this is so unsurprising imagine if you were a reporter
00:17:00.200in the 70s and you said look crime is going to get worse immigration is going to get out of
00:17:04.440control america is not going to look like the america we have today like you know you listed
00:17:08.940all this stuff women are going to abort their kids um that's going nowhere you would seem like
00:17:14.080an evil like doomer and then everyone say no no that's not going to happen and then you're like
00:17:19.320oh no it's gonna happen and you seem like the bad guy but really you're the only one being honest
00:17:26.940where everyone's like we're gonna you know take down the system no you're not you we're youtubers
00:17:32.340come on our current landscape due to the cultural messages that women have received about marriage
00:17:37.380and sex and what it means to be an empowered woman over the last couple of decades and you know her
00:17:43.160article was very spot on about a lot of things she also talked about the dangers of promiscuous
00:17:47.960hookup culture and not having a steady partner. And obviously her argument for commitment was
00:17:53.740completely spot on. I agree with everything. I do want to offer a bit of a different perspective
00:17:58.320about our current culture. I'm not saying that I have a different perspective about the messages
00:18:02.140that have been shoved down women's throats for the past few decades. But I do think that something
00:18:05.600notice the feminism. Everything's been shoved down women's throats. Brett, again, it's easy
00:18:10.820for you to be traditional when you married rich and your YouTube pays for it. And you get a bunch
00:18:16.580of clout and virtue signal point, which is fine. Not saying that's wrong, but this is why influencers
00:18:23.560are so out of touch because, you know, we don't realize we're in a, we're in a protected class.
00:18:31.740We're just not the same. So she's going to try to sell that things are going to be different,
00:18:36.800right the fertility rate 1.62 and dropping slowly okay age of first marriage
00:18:48.080older than ever. Okay. Age of first marriage. Um, what percent have women have had abortion
00:19:07.160and abortion? Um, a quarter. What percent of women have had an STD?
00:19:18.08020% has an active STD. What percent of women catch HPV? I mean, we've gone through a lot
00:19:35.140of these numbers. 80% of sexually active women. What percent of women wait until marriage
00:19:43.180to have sex? Oh, this is higher than I thought. 10 to 11%.
00:19:52.360I think this went up a little bit. Well, what is the divorce rate? But you see what I'm saying?
00:20:00.400None of these numbers are promising. So if I look at the numbers and I have to predict the next
00:20:05.820five years, I'm just trying to be honest here. I'm trying to have a good take based on fact,
00:20:11.420to not like make a wish and conservative women it's just always make a wish it's like you go to
00:20:17.460build a bear and you're like i want to i want to build a society by tweeting and i'm like i don't
00:20:22.820think that's going to work thing is changing and while it would be very easy to there and this is
00:20:29.120going to be the take it's going to change because taylor swift got married i'm like you can't make
00:20:33.520this shit up look at a world of alex cooper's and hollywood promiscuity and hookup culture
00:20:39.000but you and alex cooper are the same i mean she's probably a little bit worse but again
00:20:46.680i i have no evidence to believe that you're any different right you're still you're you're just
00:20:52.200you're still doing the public career while you have a kid um you still did the career before
00:20:57.560you had a family you're it's very similar she just built if anything alex cooper was more honest um
00:21:05.880i don't believe any of these e-girls none just feel impending doom like there is no
00:21:10.520light at the end of the tunnel i promise you it does feel like things are starting to change
00:21:15.960yeah when you marry into a bunch of money sorry that would change a lot you know i mean i'm not
00:21:23.800again you know i don't have to keep if we can't have critical thinking on this show then you just
00:21:29.480go go elsewhere you know what i mean i actually touched on this a little bit last week when we
00:21:33.480were talking about taylor swift's new album and the social media response to that we talked about
00:21:38.040her getting engaged and writing songs about wanting to be married and wanting you know
00:21:41.400why i know she wasn't a virgin on her wedding day because these women if they were it would
00:21:45.960be marketed i promise to god it would be marketed it would be public it would be everywhere like
00:21:51.160to have kids and wanting to live a suburban life with a basketball court in the front
00:21:54.840right like charlie xcx dualipa selena okay again dualipa because again remember for women these
00:22:10.600are women aging out of the marketplace so she got married at 30. um dualipa got married at 30 selena
00:22:19.320gomez age 33 um so again no if anything these women are going to actually convince women we can
00:22:33.320wait longer to have children and to some extent technology has made it so women can wait longer
00:22:40.600to have children i hate to say this um there are women that will take l's uh but half of
00:22:46.840i think it's like half of women that do what that can afford ivy well if you can afford it i will
00:22:51.960say unfortunately i don't say this with like a happy heart but the technology is getting so good
00:22:58.280it's crazy gomez and of course taylor swift these are extremely extremely attractive women at the
00:23:04.440top brett did admit to having a situation all ship all through college no sorry just one right no
00:23:14.680offense come on come on up of their game with huge currency in the sexual marketplace and they are
00:23:22.280choosing to very publicly commit themselves to one man not just in a long-term relationship but again
00:23:28.520no yeah again so women we think words matter you could say you're married you can get the ring do
00:23:35.800the show whatever i don't care until you're like 10 15 20. i mean kim kardashian and kanye west
00:23:42.920were together 15 years she's more credible than you guys in the nicest way possible she has more
00:23:48.920of a track record than you that's kim kardashian right i am very publicly getting engaged very
00:23:54.600publicly saying that i'm so excited to be married writing songs about it it's just women are so dumb
00:24:03.880it's not you brett it's just our gender i think we just default to this um
00:24:07.720songs they don't mean anything actions mean stuff so when if if taylor swift gets married and stays
00:24:18.600married for life um i mean i'll i'll pull up when she's like 60 but you know like women view
00:24:27.800marriage in the wedding as the end goal so women view like the end goal is the getting married
00:24:35.560They don't think about what happens after the wedding.
00:24:38.680They have been pining for this kind of relationship for a majority of their careers.
00:24:44.100Now, another example of how things are changing are the fact that shows like Sex and the City and Girls,
00:24:49.720that were almost grotesque in their portrayal of casual sex and dysfunctional, unhealthy romantic relationships,
00:50:44.900yeah it's how i feel here we go of course it is the actual liability is for candace owens
00:51:00.740uh i think she has very little chance of prevailing in the suit based on the venue
00:51:05.500based on the allegations and the complaint unless she's able to prove that the allegations and the
00:51:11.120complaint are not true or she has an undisclosed evidentiary source that is persuasive to a judge
00:51:17.420and a jury she basically accused bridget macron of being the father of emmanuel macron so it's
00:51:23.220not just people think it's just the trans thing it's not uh the they're suing because she alleges
00:51:29.080about a dozen crimes uh you know incest rape murder attempted murder extortion bribery black
00:51:34.760male identity theft impersonation i've done a lot of defamation libel cases successfully
00:51:39.560represented robert kennedy successfully represented the covington kids and what i've been warning
00:51:44.240people is the lawsuit is being brought by the law firm that represented dominion a big libel law
00:51:49.760firm it's clear they're planning on going after a bunch of other people theo vaughn it includes
00:51:54.900tim dylan it includes clayton morris of redacted they even name dropped joe rogan maybe she's got
00:52:00.980you know high-end french intelligence that has the super secret intel that this is the scandal
00:52:06.000of the century unless she has that uh uh unfortunately i think she's dead to rights
00:52:10.540but i i hope and pray that there's something i totally have miscalculated so it's zero percent
00:52:15.520under the my assumptions if candace wins this case it'll be the biggest miracle i've ever seen
00:52:20.740in the history of walls damn okay ian mills chong says candace owens built a brand out of playing
00:52:29.100with fire and now that she's finding out what happens when you light a mass match next to a
00:52:33.520gas tank. Here's how, here's a look at how this lawsuit could hit Candace Owens' wallet based on
00:52:39.640what the public records show. This McCroon's lawsuit is seeking both compensatory and punitive
00:52:44.960damages, meaning Owens could be ordered to pay, not just for the actual harm to Bridgette's
00:52:50.000McCrone's reputation, but also as punishment for what the McCrones call malicious defamation.
00:52:55.040The complaint points out that Owens profited from the smear through her Becoming Bridgette podcast
00:53:00.740or social media posts and even the merchandise tied to the rumor. If the court rules against
00:53:05.280her, the damages could include the disgorgement of the money she made from selling that content
00:53:11.060and the merch. On top of that, the legal costs, attorney fees, court fees, and the possible
00:53:16.980expert witnesses if the case involves medical or DNA evidence. If Owens loses, she may be ordered
00:53:22.880to pay the McCrone's legal costs. And since her business entities like Candace Owens and George
00:53:27.520tom inc are named in the suit the financial risks aren't limited to her personally her media brand
00:53:32.640revenue stream sponsorships and future deals are all on the line if the court finds her libel
00:53:36.960the best case scenario is owens manages to limit damage damages keep punitive awards low and settle
00:53:43.600most of the claims cleanly in that situation she could still be out anywhere from 500k to 2 million
00:53:49.520dollars covering compensate compensate compensatory damages some punitive element and legal fees
00:53:56.960painful but survivable but the worst case scenario is the macrones might prove actual
00:54:02.080malice demonstrate that the owens profited from the smear and push for a heavy punitive award
00:54:08.000similar defamation cases involving public figures have run into the tens of millions
00:54:13.120if that pattern repeats owens could be staring down 50 million or more once punitive damages
00:54:19.200disgorgement of profits and legal costs are factored and that's at the top of a long-term
00:54:23.600collapse of sponsorship deals and credibility the question is what lesson do we learn from this
00:54:28.080that lies eventually bankrupt you that clout chasing has a price or that some people have
00:54:33.000to be financially destroyed before they can understand that free speech can come at a cost
00:54:36.880when you launder conspiracy theories for clicks i actually don't think candace i think she's just
00:54:43.640kind of dumb right i think she's like a woman that was put in a position she doesn't deserve
00:54:48.460because she's a woman i was just you know i mean i'm not even going to pretend i'm one of them
00:54:53.600um but you can't have a big ego when you're given a spot you don't deserve do you know what i mean
00:54:58.880um you can't and she's just got too big of an ego she's got a need to be right
00:55:07.120and i think it's going to cook her in 2024 candace owens was denied a visa to the country of
00:55:12.680australia um home affairs minister tony burke's decision to bar candace from the country was
00:55:18.760based on character grounds. It was ruled, it was ruled to have made extremist and inflammatory
00:55:24.180comments against marginalized communities that could incite hate. Australia does not have an
00:55:29.060equivalent of the first amendment, um, that guarantees free speech. So here we go. So again,
00:55:35.760this is stuff that's going to affect, like affect her family and she could be raising kids, but
00:55:40.000she's busy getting banned from Australia and which is fine, but just admit, do you know what I mean?
00:55:46.900just say you know what I don't care about my kids that much they'll be fine that would be
00:55:52.860that would really be the ideal for me yeah it was immigration minister Tony Burke who made
00:56:01.800the decision to ban Candace Owens from Australia finding she didn't meet the character test the
00:56:07.800decision was based on concerns she could incite discord in a section of the community and the
00:56:14.140visit wasn't in the national interest.
00:56:17.140Candace Owens has millions of subscribers on YouTube and is accused of promoting conspiracy
00:56:22.760theories stoking anti-Semitism amid remarks about immigration.
00:56:31.540Mr Burke also cited the claim by the perpetrator of the Christchurch Mosque terror attacks,
00:56:38.100who described her as the person who had influenced him above all.
00:56:42.900Ms. Owens argued the law was at odds with the implied right to freedom of political communication.
00:56:48.840But today, the high court found that freedom is not a personal right.
00:56:53.720The court found the refusal of the visa was justified in the national interest because of the risk Ms. Owens' visit could encourage strife.
00:57:07.760Australia's highest court rejects Candace Owens' visa challenge.
00:57:12.480Australia's highest court on Wednesday rejected U.S. conservative commentator Candace Owens' bid to overturn an Australian government decision, barring her from visiting the country.
00:57:21.460Three high court judges unanimously rejected Owens' challenge to home affairs ministers Tony Burke's decision in 2024 to refuse her visa on character grounds.
00:57:31.300Owens had planned a speaking tour in Australia last November and also visit neighboring New Zealand.
00:57:37.560Burke used his powers under the Migration Act last October to refuse her visa because she failed the so-called character test.
00:57:45.280Burke found that there was a risk Owens would incite discord in the Australian community and that refusing her visa was a national interest.
00:57:53.040As a political commentator, author, and activist, Owens was known for her controversial and conspiratorial views.
00:57:59.200She has made extremist and inflammatory comments towards Muslims, Black, Jewish, and LGBTQIA communities, which generate controversy and hatred, Burke said in court documents.
00:58:10.680Owen's lawyer argued that the Migrant Act was unconstitutional because it infringed upon Australia's implied freedom of speech for political commentators.
00:58:20.300Australia doesn't have an equivalent of the U.S. First Amendment that states the right to free speech.
00:58:25.480But because Australia is a democracy, the high court has decided the Constitution implies free speech, limited government to governmental and political manners.
00:58:35.940Owens' lawyers argued that if the Migration Act was constitutional, then Burke had misconstrued his powers under the law, refusing her a visa.
00:58:44.900The judges rejected both arguments and ordered Owens to pay the government court costs.
00:58:49.400Burks described the ruling as a win for cohesion, inciting that discord may be the way some people make money, but it's not welcome in Australia.
00:59:00.380Owens' spokesman told the Associated Press in an email on Thursday Owens would comment on the court decision on social media later that week.
00:59:08.860Burk had told the court that while Owens already had an ability to incite discord through her 18 million followers across social media platforms,
00:59:17.460her presence in australia would amplify that potential he noted that when australia's
00:59:23.360terrorism threat level was elevated from possible to probable last year the
00:59:27.680national domestic spy agency reported an increase in extremism australia has long
00:59:34.040used wide discretion under the character test to refuse foreigners temporary visas burke stripped
00:59:39.920yay the u.s rapper known as kanye west of the australian visa after he released the song hail
00:59:45.540hitler in may last year he has been traveling for years to australia where his wife of three years
00:59:50.820bianca sensori was born burke's decision to ban owens prompting neighborhood neighboring new zealand
00:59:57.460to reviews her visa in november on the grounds that she has been rejected in australia
01:00:01.700but a new zealand immigration immigration official overturned that refusal in december
01:00:06.980citing the importance of freedom of speech okay so shortly after charlie kirk's murder candace owens
01:00:14.740accused Josh Hammer of having prior knowledge of his assassination attempt. Josh is now
01:00:20.100threatening legal action against her. Candace Owens is trying to suggest that Josh Hammer had
01:00:26.020prior knowledge of Charlie Kirk's assassination and for some reason posted about it the night
01:00:30.740before. She claims he randomly pulled a 12-year-old Trump post. He rarely posts about public
01:00:38.020executions. There is no context for the post. Every single one of these claims is false. Hammer
01:00:43.440has repeatedly posted about public executions and the death penalty. The Trump post was going viral
01:00:49.000that day. Connecting to Irina Zarinsky's murder, Candace later contradicts herself by acknowledging
01:01:02.740this. Hammer has already posted about Zaritska that day and retweeted two posts about Zaritska
01:01:11.080before his own owens also gets the basic facts wrong hammer's first post on the topic of public
01:01:17.200executions uh was about the uvillade shooter in 2022 nope hammer called the prompt publicity
01:01:24.340execution of the boston marathon bomber in 2019 so either candace owens is deliberately lying to
01:01:30.200her audience or she's too incompetent to find the most accessible facts and notice the most basic
01:01:34.960patterns and this is the woman who people think is leading the investigation into charlie kirk
01:01:39.200yeah i mean women are just prone to believing nonsense um so it doesn't really shock me i
01:01:45.880really don't think she's malicious right a lot of people say she's like money hungry um
01:01:51.420maybe a little bit but that's not really i think she's just got a big ego and there's
01:01:56.900just a lack of humility and it's going to bite her in the ass um again she thinks she's smarter
01:02:01.080than she is I think she just thinks she's smarter than she is um the nannies are raising the kids
01:02:12.440obviously Twitter users pointed out a very strange tweet that Josh Hammer hit send on
01:02:17.24016 hours before Charlie Kirk was assassinated uh for no apparent reason at all he retweeted
01:02:23.520something that president donald trump had sent a full 12 years ago about public executions here
01:02:31.920it is here is that retweet now what is the justification for this there might be one i
01:02:36.480tried in earnest to at first rationalize it right what could have been going on that josh hammer
01:02:41.600decided to dig through uh the 2013 twitter archives that is such a dumb take that he said
01:02:50.640that public executions are based now you're gonna pin it to charlie kirk and retweet someone calling
01:02:58.160for someone calling for a public execution would we trust if josh came out and said that tweet was
01:03:03.760definitely about arena other people pulled trump tweets some did pulled that very tweet
01:06:41.280that i saw that candace owens did my bad the show where she leaked the whatsapp chat that i had been
01:06:46.880in with Charlie Kirk. So, right as I was turning my phone off, I started getting some snippets
01:06:51.880of notifications there, but I really had no idea what would transpire when it comes to the sheer
01:06:56.540levels of her derangement and insanity over the 48 hours, give or take, that would ensue.
01:07:01.900Now, someone did tell me at synagogue while I was offline, you know, just a heads up,
01:07:06.840Candace is really going after you, and that kind of sealed me a little bit, but there's really no
01:07:10.980preparation for, like, actually turning the phone on and truly seeing all the notifications.
01:07:14.920I'll put it this way. I was up until 3 a.m. local time that night just dealing with all the messages and emails and whatnot there.
01:07:24.060It's not fun. Now, to an extent, it's part of just the nature of our business.
01:07:28.360I mean, when you put yourselves out there, you're going to get pushback.
01:07:31.380But this is not pushback, right? I mean, this is not someone responding to a legal theory of mine or making an intelligent point about the two-state solution or not two-state solution.
01:07:40.780No, I mean, this is literally just picking a Jewish person and calling him subhuman filth and sticking your band of millions and millions of neo-Nazi zealots on a Jewish person who happens to be a, yeah, you like Charlie, who happens to be a husband and a father to a young child.
01:07:57.160So, I mean, it's just awful, awful stuff.
01:08:00.100And I guess I will say, Aaron, I think I'm pretty sure I've said this publicly already.
01:08:08.980I know a thing or two about United States constitutional law.
01:08:12.660I think that we have a potentially serious case here for defamation, and I'm very much speaking with lawyers, and we'll see what happens.
01:08:20.600I agree entirely regarding you going down that avenue because I find – and as someone who's been in the media in Australia for a very long time, I was very aware and fine with the fact that people would write and say things about me that weren't true.
01:08:35.480it's part and parcel of being in the public eye of being a celebrity of of that whole side of things
01:08:41.080and i was willing to tolerate a million things you know my partner and i we've broken up they
01:08:45.320had a fight she's dating this guy none of that matters who cares right okay i gotta have a talk
01:08:51.960to the chat i'm going to tell you guys this once this is a free speech zone you do get freedom of
01:09:01.960speech here however we do have you know me and doug are not paying to get bullied here
01:09:11.640you do when you come on the show you do have to give us a level of respect if you don't want to
01:09:17.320you are totally welcome to talk elsewhere doug mpa i mean um but
01:09:23.960but I'm just, I'm just letting you know, you can't, if you don't like the rules,
01:09:32.600it's totally fine, but there is a baseline level of respect. You do have to give me when I have
01:09:39.040the show, Doug MPA. And if you don't want to, we will boot. So, you know, I'm just letting you
01:09:46.120know if, you know, if, if Doug MPA says no caps, just, you know, stick away from the caps.
01:09:53.960yeah yeah it's a free speech zone mostly sorry you know
01:09:58.180yeah so it's just it is what it is you know take it or leave it you let it go
01:10:04.940but it's when they come at the core of who you are it's when that's when you have every right
01:10:10.580to exercise it's like a free speech zone until you bully me and i'm like i don't really have
01:10:15.580to listen to getting bullied so i'm just gonna skirt you know i i'm not gonna judge you for it
01:10:23.000but yeah or legal response to that it's nothing to do with free speech she is lying in a way that
01:10:32.980is resonating with people in a way that damages you significantly it's just so evil i mean charlie
01:10:40.640was a good friend of mine i mean i've known him for five six years give or take but we really
01:10:44.760became close over the final year year and a half of his life we were in daily communication uh you
01:10:50.900I don't actually know precisely the extent to which he and Candace communicated in the final year or two, but she very much was on the outs of Turning Point USA.
01:11:00.100And my understanding is that they really were not in touch at all.
01:11:04.580I mean, maybe kind of a happy birthday kind of here or there, but not close touch.
01:11:09.000And, you know, I mean, Aaron, when I first found out that Charlie had been shot, I canceled the rest of my day.
01:11:17.940I just prayed until I found out the news.
01:11:20.180And then when I heard the news, I was, like, uncontrollably sobbing.
01:11:23.960And when I recorded my show the next day and I had to talk about it, it was the first time that I ever broke down crying while recording a show.
01:11:32.240I'm typically able to control my emotions like that.
01:11:38.820It's the first time I've ever had a friend murdered, let alone murdered, in this high profile of fashion, in, like, internationally, globally visible fashion.
01:11:46.320the highest-profile political assassinations in the United States
01:11:48.960since Martin Luther King Jr. and Robert F. Kennedy back in 1968.
01:11:53.440So to experience all of that, and then to see this demonic figure
01:12:16.900Charlie Kirk was murdered by a left-wing fanatic, someone who was indoctrinated by the university, who was in a romantic relationship with his transgender roommates, who had a bizarre fetish for furries, people who dress like animals.
01:12:29.840He had the lyrics to Bella Ciao, the Italian Marxist song written on the bullets.
01:12:37.120So the fact that we even had this big debate over Charlie's legacy on Israel and Jews is pretty disturbing in and of itself.
01:12:42.540But the reason that Candace, I think, ultimately decided to go down this hyper-conspiratorial evil and demonic and twisted path when it comes to me in particular is that it complicates her narrative and their narrative.
01:12:54.880It complicates their narrative because they can't stand the fact that a kippa, yarmulke-wearing Jew who wrote a book about Israel and the Jews' Western civilization, they can't stand the fact that someone like that, someone like me, was actually in Charlie's inner circle.
01:13:10.700It deeply muddies, it deeply complicates their narrative, and therefore the narrative can't exist and has to be eradicated.
01:13:16.580I think that partially is what's happening here as well.
01:13:19.480The stuff with the donors and that kind of thing, and my shows, I don't have donors.
01:13:25.740It's, you know, God, I wish I did. I don't.
01:13:28.100And that's, you know, so it's a space I don't understand, but I've been in mainstream media for 20 years.
01:13:33.580I see it in a similar way to advertisers, which has been a huge part of, and you have endorsements and that kind of thing.
01:13:39.880what I find bizarre and not really because you know it's it's the Jews but this would be fairly
01:13:47.400normal in any business any media company you would have say a sponsor or McDonald's you know
01:13:53.920we've had on radio we were breakfast radio where I worked with two comedians and we would do
01:13:58.420controversial things and and we would have a segment then a boss would come in and say hey
01:14:03.060one of our advertisers not very happy or the boss might have sent you know them a message saying
01:14:07.700this doesn't really align with our brand, you know, or we're giving you a heap of money and
01:14:11.680it doesn't feel right to us. That's not a Jewish donor thing. That's just anyone who invests in an
01:14:17.160organization or who sponsors content or who advertises wants the content that they're
01:14:22.940surrounding their brand with or that they believe in to reflect their values. I don't know why this
01:14:28.760has suddenly become a Jewish thing. I wouldn't say it's rare in the world of media to have people
01:14:34.540who have invested or who advertise push back a little bit on content that happens all the time
01:14:39.940on every show why is it specifically a jewish thing why that's not a big deal i wouldn't have
01:14:44.900thought it shouldn't be look it is the nature of the not-for-profit space and turning point usa is
01:14:50.720a not-for-profit organization is the nature of the space where you will have donors who are
01:14:55.320donating to an organization because they expect the organization to do something to stand for
01:15:00.900something, to advocate. And if the donor feels in his or her individual capacity that the
01:15:05.940organization no longer does that, it is obviously that donor's right to pull the money. To give a
01:15:11.100very concrete example here, let's take the abortion issue, an issue that I'm also pretty
01:15:15.840outspoken about here. So I've spoken at numerous conferences sponsored by Lila Rose, who's the head
01:15:20.660of a group called Live Action, a pro-life organization in the United States. If I were a
01:15:25.480pro-life anti-abortion donor to Live Action, and then I saw that Live Action was starting to
01:15:30.260justify abortion i would pull my donation because the organization stopped supporting what i thought
01:15:35.820it was supporting there so if you had someone who was donating to turning point usa he thought that
01:15:40.500it was a pro-jewish pro-israel organization and if the donor in his own right thinks that it's going
01:15:45.900adrift for platform tucker carlson that is his right to pull that donation but by the way it's
01:15:51.260also charlie kirk's right to be upset about that i mean that's kind of the nature of the donor and
01:15:56.080the donate so charlie in these screenshots that candace publicized was just what he was frustrated
01:16:02.420at losing a donation as anyone would be it's a natural human response and he's blowing off steam
01:16:07.260but the timeline is so off as i explained in my own response to candace erin because
01:16:11.740two hours after these screenshots charlie had me and two other two or three others in a zoom call
01:16:18.440he organized this zoom call for the express purpose of trying to bring him up to speed
01:16:23.560on the best way to handle the anti-Israel keffiyeh-clad crazies
01:16:27.580on his campus tour set to begin the next day.
01:16:30.960So someone who was actually about to turn on Israel,
01:16:34.200as those out-of-context screenshots imply,
01:16:37.180would he have had on me the night before his campus tour?
01:16:40.340It doesn't make any sense in the world because it's not true.