Pearl - Candance Owens Keeps Fighting Against 20 Feminists

00:00:00.000 feminism is everywhere we are arguing that women need to have more opportunities women need to have

00:00:04.400 more rights they've taken that now you have so feminism one so what now candace owens versus

00:00:11.680 one conservative versus 20 feminists station might have to come back to you

00:00:19.360 oh sorry i forgot to finish a thought before i go so candace owens she markets herself as special

00:00:25.360 different but like none of these women very few marry before um 30 right or before 25 at that

00:00:34.240 and usually if they do marry young they delay the kids and if they do have kids they're still like

00:00:39.120 you know brett cooper's having a kid but she just accepted fox and friends do you know what i mean

00:00:44.880 and they keep saying well i get to work from home and be an influencer well as an influencer

00:00:50.080 you still like you're not supposed to have leverage like you can leverage your audience against your

00:00:54.880 husband you can um get potential suitors through your social media

00:01:03.920 you draw attention away from your husband you know and i'm not saying that's right or wrong

00:01:08.240 i don't care but it's not what they're selling and i think women especially they do this for long enough

00:01:14.880 and we just kind of start to believe our own we really do um and that's what i see with candace is

00:01:24.560 you know she's kind of gotten to market herself like this for so long um

00:01:32.000 she i i actually think the the veil the mask is kind of coming off because she keeps getting called

00:01:36.880 out and cooked over this but all right let's continue oh but she also pushed off marriage i'm in order to get

00:01:46.000 a very attractive husband right very good looking guy worth like 250 million dollars she said no to

00:01:52.640 her high school sweetheart no to her college sweetheart no to whoever the hell she dated in

00:01:56.640 her 20s and she said i will not settle until i get a chad worth a bajillion dollars and hey you won the

00:02:04.480 game chica you won but we're not gonna like we gotta call this for what it is okay hi owens i'm

00:02:14.160 paris very nice to meet you to meet you so can i explain to you why i believe we live in a patriarchy

00:02:19.280 and why i believe absolutely it's preferential to men so i'm going to use the example of male

00:02:23.280 violence there's a lot of places i can look but we're going to talk about that 81 of women have

00:02:27.280 been sexually assaulted one in six have been raped one in four women are the victims of domestic violence

00:02:32.080 98 of perpetrators of rape and sexual assault are men 95 of perpetrators of domestic violence are men

00:02:38.880 actually in regards to human trafficking 70 of human trafficking victims are women so we're seeing a very

00:02:44.160 clear issue of men being violent towards women and then when we look at the way that our government

00:02:47.760 handles that one out of three rapes go reported and then out of the ones that go reported seven

00:02:53.120 percent end in jail time so if we're looking at that and we're looking at the fact that our government

00:02:56.800 doesn't really get that worried about male violence well so what i would say is going back to

00:03:02.560 biological differences men are naturally inclined more towards aggression than women are so i am not shocked by

00:03:09.840 feminism right there men are naturally more inclined towards aggression than women

00:03:20.480 can you imagine if women had the strength of men hell no women are far more aggressive

00:03:28.000 not even close women have murdered you believe abortion is murder right they have murdered an eighth of the

00:03:35.200 world population you know the most dangerous place you could be it's not in a room full of men

00:03:42.160 like if men were so violent it's in your mother's womb

00:03:49.440 are you telling me it's even if you looked at like i said male-on-male crime you would see

00:03:53.360 that there are more instances instances of men killing other men than there are instances of women

00:03:57.360 killing other women and that i think actually speaks to our biological differences which is actually at

00:04:01.280 the root of everything that i believe about feminism being a lie is because they're trying to program

00:04:05.600 people to believe yeah but women kill children candace can you imagine if women could kill other

00:04:10.880 women with their hands holy because most murder i've looked into this most murders are done they're

00:04:16.960 like fights gone wrong so it's usually not like an intentional murder but a guy hits a guy the guy in

00:04:23.120 the head too hard and killed leave that men and women are the same now i don't think that pointing

00:04:29.200 to the fact that men are more aggressive than women which is a point that you and i one thousand

00:04:34.320 percent agree on whether or not that manifests in the very wrong way of men harming men other men

00:04:40.880 which i think they do more probably than they're than they are beating women men men on male-on-male

00:04:44.720 violence um that manifestation doesn't change the fact that men and women are just biologically

00:04:50.720 hardwired different i think it's actually proof of that i don't think it has anything to do with the

00:04:54.240 fact of power dynamics in this country because to the contrary if you look at prison rates and

00:04:58.800 talking about how disparities don't mean anything the majority of overwhelmed people that are in

00:05:02.880 prison are male right because they don't send women to jail for crimes you know an example of this

00:05:09.680 it um like i can't remember what men get like four times the sentencing women do

00:05:16.160 and that doesn't include like women that do petty shoplifting and they just don't pursue it

00:05:21.760 uh you know there's a woman that literally murdered her mother with her boyfriend and the

00:05:26.400 boyfriend's in jail for life and she got like five ten years and women can't kill with their hands

00:05:36.160 there's a reason for that so when it manifests on in a good way that male aggression you know is the

00:05:40.960 reason why we have men defend someone's mad because i rated candace owens a six you're wrong i rated her a

00:05:46.720 five facially i'm sorry she's a five i don't say this to be mean i don't say this to be rude

00:05:55.040 it's not because i have my disagreements with candace it's just look if i had to if i was doing casting

00:06:04.000 maybe when she was younger she was a six but she's like in her mid-30s that's a five

00:06:09.920 she's thin um so i guess in america you could say

00:06:14.000 like i guess in america you could say she would be in the top maybe 30 or 40 percent but the equivalent

00:06:24.960 of that is you know just because the league's getting worse doesn't make you hotter just makes

00:06:29.280 the league worse so just because american women are fat it doesn't make your rating higher i look at i say

00:06:36.480 i'm a five right maybe a four you know i don't really i'm not saying i'm the epitome of beauty

00:06:42.400 here um but neither is she you know and you can see this because she's in conservative media

00:06:50.160 look and if we were hot enough to be in playboy we'd all be in playboy you know it's just it's

00:06:54.960 always very convenient and i thought about this because i used to think um because i've just i've never

00:07:01.360 been a super like addressing really provocatively person right and i used to think i was like i'm

00:07:07.840 so moral and then i thought about it and i'm like well it's always convenient when mids are modest

00:07:20.640 do you know what i mean like it's very convenient for a mid to be modest because we don't get as much

00:07:27.920 out of being immodest but a hot girl if she doesn't show her knockers like you know the stuff she's

00:07:35.520 gonna miss out on and i had to think about it i was like well i'm not going on these yachts in miami

00:07:41.520 and i like to think i like to think i wouldn't right but i've never been invited so it's really easy

00:07:47.600 and the equivalent of this is um the equivalent of this

00:07:52.400 is the men that say they don't cheat and um every man that like i've heard say oh i don't cheat

00:08:04.800 they're either lying they don't understand they don't know they could cheat

00:08:12.400 or they can they literally can't cheat

00:08:14.320 yeah i don't care i can look at four five six

00:08:24.880 she's a man right she's five facially five i i can't see if she's got boobs or butt

00:08:31.680 i don't think i think she's pretty flat so men prefer the curves

00:08:41.280 anyways

00:08:44.320 wow you don't like candace well okay so let me get this straight i'm supposed to

00:08:54.160 give people hotness points because i like them or don't like them

00:08:59.600 no i gotta i gotta be objective in my ratings okay

00:09:04.960 no she doesn't get a point for being married you don't get a point in how hot you are for being

00:09:10.960 married that doesn't that's not how it works a beauty point is if you were on a on a web how many

00:09:19.280 swipe rights would you get on a dating app based on your face and your body how many men would say would

00:09:28.880 you know say wouldn't it thank you

00:09:35.920 i'm sending us you know men that are willing to go to war and die for our nation so aggression being an

00:09:41.680 aspect of masculinity has nothing to do with the conversation of whether or not feminism is harming

00:09:47.680 women today i mean i agree with you that we agree in our biologically yes but i don't yeah like this is

00:09:52.720 Like this is like a three facially, not looking good, not good.

00:10:02.760 What I want you to connect it to is, I guess, power, because what I'm talking about when I say

00:10:08.460 that we're existing under a matriarchy is that I believe that the social pressures politically

00:10:12.940 and socially that are coming, and even within our music, if we talk about Hollywood,

00:10:17.980 it's very much has become-

00:10:19.320 That power means nothing.

00:10:20.140 Like just because who was on the top music charts or whatever are women, okay, how many

00:10:24.880 women have paid maternity leave?

00:10:26.000 Okay, that's not-

00:10:26.680 Like how are things panning out on the family courts?

00:10:28.780 Why are abusive men having access to their children?

00:10:30.900 Like why are women making less than men?

00:10:32.880 I mean, none of that means anything to me.

00:10:34.760 So that gap, obviously, I'm sure you've recognized the gender gap has been debunked so many times.

00:10:39.120 It's almost foolish to debunk it again.

00:10:40.440 Well, you could say, yeah, that most women will go into jobs where they're making less,

00:10:43.840 but then it does answer the question of why do we not value women's labor?

00:10:46.240 Like, can you imagine if I was on this panel?

00:10:52.820 I would say women are more retarded.

00:10:56.300 Like imagine if that was me.

00:10:57.900 I would say, yeah, because women are dumber.

00:11:01.700 Not all, not all, not all.

00:11:05.780 They're not getting paid as much because they don't do as much work.

00:11:08.620 It's not, that's not valuing women's labor.

00:11:13.420 It's just a reality that if you are going to be a person that aspires to become a brain surgeon,

00:11:17.640 you are going to make more money than a person that aspires to do something that's, you know,

00:11:23.260 like in the household.

00:11:25.300 Can we go back to the real violence question?

00:11:27.260 Why does our country not persecute men then who are rapists?

00:11:30.920 Well, the majority of people who are in prison are men.

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00:13:18.420 Can you imagine?

00:13:22.920 They would just crash out.

00:13:24.780 I go on these shows, they crash out.

00:13:28.340 Yeah, maybe if we just stopped lying so much.

00:13:35.360 Yeah?

00:13:35.760 You mean that we don't prosecute men that are rapists?

00:13:39.380 We even prosecute people.

00:13:40.360 7% go to jail.

00:13:42.200 Only 7% go to jail.

00:13:43.460 I don't know what that has to do with the question of whether or not we're living in a

00:13:45.880 matriarchy or a patriarchy.

00:13:46.900 Because our government is preferential to men.

00:13:50.360 You're saying that they only like to arrest men.

00:13:52.760 That's not true because the Duluth model is based on the fact that men are automatically

00:13:57.560 seen in a position of power.

00:13:59.380 But even some of the women that made the Duluth model, which the whole justice system is based

00:14:03.440 off.

00:14:04.260 Candace, I'm giving you answers here.

00:14:06.520 Which the whole justice system is based off of.

00:14:09.500 Even the people that, like, one of the people that made it said that it gave preferential

00:14:16.820 treatment to women.

00:14:17.680 In most abusive cases, they're beating each other.

00:14:22.360 When they kill someone, but they are, our government is awarding men for raping women.

00:14:31.880 I don't understand what you're saying.

00:14:32.560 They're not, they don't care.

00:14:34.200 Rape is effectively legal.

00:14:35.780 You can literally rape.

00:14:39.500 Women, you have a very low likelihood of actually going to jail as a man.

00:14:43.180 Rape is effectively legal.

00:14:44.340 It's effectively legal.

00:14:45.480 How many men are actually going to jail for rape?

00:14:46.900 I will, I actually agree with you that in terms of sex crimes, and I don't know how you're

00:14:50.900 peeling out women because I'm.

00:14:51.940 If women, if women are so afraid of being raped, then why are they going out alone at night

00:14:57.460 to party?

00:14:59.760 If women are so afraid of men.

00:15:03.140 Why are women traveling alone across countries?

00:15:07.500 Why?

00:15:07.940 I would even, and again, this has nothing to do with our argument today, but I would

00:15:10.980 even say that people are not being prosecuted hard enough when we're dealing with crimes

00:15:15.500 against children, period.

00:15:16.860 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:15:17.900 Talking about sexual crime.

00:15:21.580 Because even children lie about that stuff too, but I can't talk about that.

00:15:28.300 I only found you a few days ago.

00:15:29.880 I love your show, but sometimes it makes me so bad.

00:15:32.400 Mad.

00:15:32.760 Keep doing what you're doing.

00:15:33.660 Thank you, James.

00:15:34.380 Rich, she lets them attack her, attack her individually, but she never says the conversation

00:15:40.840 is about the rule and not, the conversation is about the rule, not the exception, average

00:15:46.040 situation.

00:15:47.200 Candace Owens is the rule.

00:15:49.160 When women get power and money, when women have the opportunity to, we will always pick

00:15:54.780 ourselves above our family.

00:15:56.140 She's not leaving the public eye when she has her family.

00:16:00.440 No.

00:16:03.400 Did she, yeah, did she have kids with her college sweetheart?

00:16:09.080 No.

00:16:09.560 Like, no, she had to hold out and get that conservative money.

00:16:13.440 I don't mind.

00:16:14.200 I don't even, I'm not even gonna, like, falter for it.

00:16:17.900 Can you blame her?

00:16:18.560 Like, if you were Candace Owens and you had the opportunity to marry into a ton of money

00:16:23.520 with an attractive British guy, I mean, who could blame her?

00:16:28.420 Like, she got engaged in 30 days.

00:16:31.560 Obviously, like, obviously, right?

00:16:33.500 But my point is, she's the rule.

00:16:36.140 And the rule is women will pick themselves over their money and they use their kids and

00:16:40.820 their husband to build their brand.

00:16:42.240 So it's not like she's just debating conservative politics.

00:16:45.500 She's using her husband and her kids to build her family and virtue signal, basically saying,

00:16:51.280 I'm a good person.

00:16:55.200 So that's my point.

00:16:57.880 I was not being prosecuted in this country is a whole other conversation and you will

00:17:01.940 not get a disagreement with me, but I think that it's wrong to say that it's somehow attached

00:17:05.600 to being a woman when you know that there are so many children that are going through

00:17:08.160 the exact same thing.

00:17:08.880 I mean, if men are child predators, then why are so many women getting arrested for sleeping

00:17:16.460 with students?

00:17:19.320 Sentences that are tossed out for pedophiles.

00:17:21.520 It's completely ridiculous.

00:17:22.620 All right, guys, pause.

00:17:23.640 But I don't think it has anything to do with conversation that we're having right now.

00:17:26.360 But I agree with everything to do with it and you're separating it.

00:17:28.760 That's time.

00:17:29.940 Thank you for your seat.

00:17:30.920 I'm going to add five more minutes to this claim.

00:17:40.320 Nice to meet you.

00:17:41.160 Hi, Adam.

00:17:41.800 Nice to meet you.

00:17:43.080 So your claim is just to be clear that we live in a matriarchy, right?

00:17:46.160 So I think even you'd agree that on a global level, that's obviously ridiculous when there

00:17:50.500 are countries where people literally are on or killed for like Instagram posts.

00:17:53.400 But even if we're talking about just the U.S., right, we don't have paid maternity leave.

00:17:57.120 They're not going to sleep with you.

00:18:00.520 That would be my response.

00:18:03.700 Like, why are you doing this?

00:18:05.340 They're not going to sleep with you.

00:18:12.420 Single mother, domineering mother, working mother, I'm sure.

00:18:19.880 Abortion is illegal in over a dozen different states.

00:18:22.280 And as someone earlier was mentioning, women are overwhelmingly the victims of sexual violence

00:18:27.280 and domestic abuse.

00:18:28.640 So...

00:18:29.060 No, they're not.

00:18:35.200 They're not.

00:18:37.460 That doesn't seem like a very well-designed matriarchy where women are victims or, you

00:18:41.620 know, lacking power in so many different realms of society on like a structural level.

00:18:44.940 I just do not think that women are lacking power on a structural level because they can't,

00:18:49.260 which they can, by the way, abort their children.

00:18:51.200 Is that like one of your components?

00:18:52.660 Is that...

00:18:52.960 There's many states where abortion is illegal.

00:18:54.640 Do you dispute that?

00:18:56.260 Okay.

00:18:56.840 If you can't drive five hours to get an abortion, then you don't really want it.

00:19:02.700 You don't want it that bad.

00:19:06.240 You don't.

00:19:06.960 You can do that on the weekends.

00:19:08.500 They can mail you abortion pills.

00:19:10.420 Like, I'm just sick of the excuses.

00:19:12.840 Look at ladies.

00:19:13.720 If you want to kill your kids so bad, there are...

00:19:16.820 You have the opportunity.

00:19:18.380 Go take it.

00:19:18.940 I don't care anymore.

00:19:19.780 I don't.

00:19:21.840 I am going to dispute that having a child is somehow something that restricts women in

00:19:26.240 any capacity.

00:19:27.020 Like you're saying that...

00:19:27.720 What about the ability to decide what you do with your own body?

00:19:29.340 I don't believe that it's...

00:19:30.260 I don't believe that murder is something that you should be allowed to decide.

00:19:33.080 Sure.

00:19:33.240 And murder is the legal...

00:19:34.580 It's actually what you're doing to somebody else's body.

00:19:36.600 So I'm pro-life.

00:19:37.600 So that...

00:19:38.180 Sure.

00:19:38.560 So the argument that, well, women will only be free if they're...

00:19:42.420 I wouldn't even...

00:19:44.880 I give up on abortion.

00:19:46.560 I give up.

00:19:47.800 My argument would be it's not that hard to not get pregnant.

00:19:52.380 It's not.

00:19:53.480 If you're so worried about being graped, get on birth control.

00:19:57.420 Oh, look.

00:20:03.760 Able to, you know, kill off their own offspring to me is a really...

00:20:07.380 That's a really...

00:20:08.180 Extremely off-colored argument for me.

00:20:09.500 Yeah.

00:20:09.660 Well, I guess if you frame it that way, everyone kind of has to agree with you.

00:20:12.600 But when we're talking about abortion, when 99% take place in the first few weeks, when,

00:20:16.880 you know, there's no thalamus, there's no cortex, there's no capacity for consciousness...

00:20:20.360 You and Myron are way better than this, than her.

00:20:25.320 It's because I've done...

00:20:26.600 Once you interview a ton of people...

00:20:28.100 And Myron's like, he's done way more than me.

00:20:31.740 But I've just interviewed too many people.

00:20:33.320 It sounds like Adam was raised by a single mom and pursued AA at his local college.

00:20:39.440 In the fetus that's developing, saying that that fetus that has no capacity to be conscious

00:20:44.060 or wear anything else should have the same right, same bodily autonomy as a woman, that

00:20:48.360 is an obvious...

00:20:49.000 Should.

00:20:49.600 Should, should, should.

00:20:52.100 Look, women are going to kill their kids.

00:20:53.820 I can't stop it.

00:20:54.740 You guys win.

00:20:55.640 You win.

00:20:56.640 You win.

00:20:58.340 Is that how men feel?

00:20:59.740 Is that how you guys feel?

00:21:00.820 Because it has to disgust you.

00:21:02.380 It disgusts me.

00:21:04.920 For me personally, it just is not that hard to not get pregnant.

00:21:08.960 I don't...

00:21:09.700 I've had boyfriends before.

00:21:10.940 You know, I just don't think it's that difficult to not get pregnant if you don't want to get

00:21:16.040 pregnant.

00:21:17.200 Obvious.

00:21:17.880 I mean, you're making my point for me.

00:21:19.240 You're actually making a point that people who are born with tremendous disabilities

00:21:23.920 should just be killed because of cognitive functions and abilities.

00:21:26.200 I don't remember saying that.

00:21:27.100 When did I say that?

00:21:28.300 The best argument, which again, this is sidetracked.

00:21:30.960 You're saying that I say that we should kill people with disabilities?

00:21:33.120 Well, I'm saying that if you're saying, no, I am saying that if you're saying that it's

00:21:36.120 cognitive ability and at what stage you think...

00:21:37.800 The ability to be conscious and just so we're clear, disabled people are conscious.

00:21:41.120 They're aware.

00:21:41.720 Okay.

00:21:42.780 So the best argument that it is a life is the fact that you have to kill it.

00:21:46.040 You have to have a procedure to kill it, right?

00:21:47.560 So you have to intervene.

00:21:48.860 There's living human cells in it, but it's not conscious.

00:21:51.400 If you're developing life, if you have to go into your body and murder it, then it's murder.

00:21:55.780 I'm not disputing that there's living human cells in it.

00:21:57.360 Again, so we can just tack that off because we just have a fundamental disagreement on whether

00:22:01.680 you're not a child is a life.

00:22:02.800 Do you know what I would say?

00:22:09.340 Men are dying in the middle of Alaska on crab fishing boats.

00:22:15.800 Candace, I'm, I could, they should have had me on this.

00:22:19.700 I could argue this so much better.

00:22:23.400 Crab fishing boats in Alaska.

00:22:28.420 Men die to give us crab.

00:22:30.220 And we're complaining because women don't get maternity leave.

00:22:37.900 Logging.

00:22:38.820 So we can sit on this chair right now.

00:22:42.700 Yeah.

00:22:43.240 You're saying, Jessica, don't murder babies.

00:22:45.320 Look, I agree with you, Jessica, but.

00:22:49.880 I got to move on.

00:22:53.380 I got to look at.

00:22:54.860 When it comes to changing hearts and minds of women on that topic, I think that's a lost cause.

00:23:03.540 I've explained this.

00:23:04.780 You guys win.

00:23:07.380 You do.

00:23:10.420 I wish you guys would stop murdering your kids, but I, do you think I can stop you?

00:23:15.800 I mean, I don't even think Jesus could stop these women from murdering their children.

00:23:21.560 I'm talking a lot about whether you have to be a mother, you have to work.

00:23:27.240 A lot of women have to pick one or the other, because in many cases, if you want to have a child.

00:23:31.860 And Candace is picking one or the other.

00:23:33.880 She is.

00:23:35.800 Her focus is on her career.

00:23:38.060 And I'm not saying it shouldn't be.

00:23:39.440 But, you know, let's just call this what it is.

00:23:44.660 There's a big gap in your resume, so getting a job after that might be super difficult.

00:23:48.020 And then secondly, even in the process of having that child, being pregnant, especially in the third trimester, and then raising the child where the, you know, the vast majority of the burden typically is on the mother, the workplace and our system of our economy is not tailored to make that easy for them.

00:24:03.180 I actually totally agree with you.

00:24:04.960 And this is, this gets into.

00:24:05.820 In maternity leave, you agree?

00:24:06.380 I don't know, actually, I'm agreeing with you that this pressure that you're describing exists for women.

00:24:10.840 And I'm saying that it exists for women because of the feminists that came before who argued for women to enter the workplace.

00:24:16.440 So what you're saying is the solution didn't work and it actually produced more problems.

00:24:21.300 And now we have more problems and we need more governance to be able to tackle these problems.

00:24:26.020 Yeah, see, she entered into his frame.

00:24:28.840 I would reject that that's even a problem.

00:24:31.620 Look at, you have the right to not get pregnant like the men.

00:24:36.380 That's what I would say.

00:24:38.900 I would say, look, women have the right to not get pregnant just like men do.

00:24:45.420 You can get on birth control and not get pregnant.

00:24:47.780 Abortion is legal.

00:24:48.900 I'm not going to go back and forth with you about my opinions on it because it is legal.

00:24:52.940 So if you make a choice to have a child, which you don't have to make, that is the trade-off that comes with it.

00:25:01.520 You're not entitled to maternity leave.

00:25:04.460 There are men that are on crab fishing boats in Alaska that would love to be home with their kids, but they can't.

00:25:10.940 And those are men that risk their lives where one guy in the boat dies every, like, every ship.

00:25:23.420 Anyways.

00:25:25.040 Yeah, it's a lost cause.

00:25:26.380 We need to move on.

00:25:28.020 Yeah, we do.

00:25:29.320 Yeah.

00:25:29.780 Any system that's forcing women to make certain decisions, I just wouldn't call that feminism to begin with.

00:25:34.980 Women should have the option to choose, do I want to be a stay-at-home mom?

00:25:37.780 Do I want to work?

00:25:38.400 Do I have some mix of both?

00:25:39.760 Right.

00:25:39.940 That's the entire point here.

00:25:40.840 But you are also making an argument that if you are a woman who does run a business and does have employees, that they should be forced to pay them maternity leave.

00:25:48.700 Sure, yeah.

00:25:49.300 Okay, so under, let me tell you.

00:25:50.700 That's like saying taxes are forced.

00:25:51.700 Yeah, there's certain things the government does to regulate our economy to ensure equality and justice and better outcomes.

00:25:56.240 Okay, but just so you know, when you do that, like, to a small business owner.

00:25:59.960 Like every other developed country does.

00:26:01.180 What you are arguing for is supporting big corporations and taking up a little guys because.

00:26:06.300 I'm arguing for supporting people that want to be mothers and also work at the same time.

00:26:09.480 Right, I under.

00:26:09.940 The mechanism we do that with, it can be subsidies, taxes.

00:26:12.240 You guys can't just keep this, you can't say that we can't have the economic, we can't get down to the economics of what it actually implies, right?

00:26:18.360 I have an economics degree and I can tell you if there's a small business that.

00:26:21.180 God help us, you have an economics degree?

00:26:26.220 Oh my God.

00:26:34.120 Oh, what are they teaching these?

00:26:36.560 I'd say man, but that's a woman in schools.

00:26:40.840 I can't afford to pay maternity leave.

00:26:42.640 The government might probably subsidize them and help cover the costs.

00:26:45.040 I first saw you getting the business on trigonometry right after they tongue blasted, they tongue blasted Sam Harris's lying ass without an apology.

00:26:54.720 Yeah, trigonometry is on my dead to me list in the most respectful way.

00:26:59.520 I have a, I have a shit list forever.

00:27:12.400 And maybe one day, maybe one day I'll go through it with you guys.

00:27:17.880 I'll give you, I'll give you my side of things.

00:27:20.660 But, you know, then you bring up the pat, I'm like a woman, you just got to move on.

00:27:31.580 But they are on my shit list forever.

00:27:33.600 They're one of them.

00:27:34.780 Where is the government getting money from?

00:27:36.240 This is like, this is.

00:27:36.760 Tax revenue, I mean.

00:27:37.880 Right, exactly.

00:27:38.560 So from us, so from us, just to be clear, from us.

00:27:41.100 And this is the thing that gets me about all of these debates.

00:27:43.540 Yeah.

00:27:43.720 The magic solution that everybody has is that we just need to tax the government more.

00:27:46.960 Every other developed country has paid maternity leave.

00:27:48.740 But it's not magic as in like the money is coming.

00:27:50.400 I guess we should go to these magical countries.

00:27:51.240 The money is coming from you.

00:27:52.340 It's coming from us.

00:27:53.140 So you're sitting here saying.

00:27:53.960 Yes, that's how taxes work.

00:27:54.840 Yes, we should be raising taxes.

00:27:57.200 Yeah.

00:27:57.440 Okay.

00:27:57.640 And this is the entire, this is the entire problem is that the government is already taxing homes times two.

00:28:02.480 And people are already struggling with what's being taken out of their taxes.

00:28:05.060 We're not taxing capital gains properly or corporate profits properly or high income properly.

00:28:09.040 There's a reason that we should be taxing more here or there.

00:28:11.760 It's an efficiency problem.

00:28:12.800 What are you, my, my question would be like, what do you know about taxes?

00:28:17.260 You got some degree.

00:28:23.400 Like I even.

00:28:28.880 Like I wouldn't even go down that like rabbit hole.

00:28:36.320 These are having to bring in more revenue to help women be mothers.

00:28:39.340 What I'm saying is that you are just creating a cyclical argument.

00:28:41.920 You're basically saying that women want to be able to have it all.

00:28:44.380 Women cannot have it all because the government.

00:28:46.380 The choice to do what they'd like.

00:28:47.580 Okay.

00:28:48.060 But you're saying.

00:28:48.880 Women can have it all when they outsource it to babysitters and nannies.

00:28:54.060 Yep.

00:28:55.160 And a daycare.

00:28:57.080 So.

00:28:57.800 Women should be have the choice to have it all.

00:28:59.980 Okay.

00:29:00.380 So you're saying.

00:29:00.880 That's a really interesting way of putting like what you're.

00:29:02.960 Do you have it all right now where you're working and you're also a mother?

00:29:05.560 Is that having it all?

00:29:06.520 I'm saying that it's not possible.

00:29:12.300 Yeah, she does.

00:29:15.320 I bet she'll run for office someday.

00:29:17.160 God help us.

00:29:19.940 God help us.

00:29:20.880 So for women to have it all.

00:29:24.840 It is impossible.

00:29:25.260 Okay.

00:29:25.380 What do you have?

00:29:25.900 And that's one of the.

00:29:26.520 Whatever that is.

00:29:27.340 Is what I would want other women to have as well.

00:29:29.140 Which is the flexibility.

00:29:30.300 Right.

00:29:30.560 So you work a job and also raise kids if they'd like.

00:29:32.980 No, but that.

00:29:33.440 But that's.

00:29:34.220 Exactly.

00:29:34.700 You guys keep arguing that what people want is more flexibility.

00:29:37.020 So you're acknowledging that right now.

00:29:38.840 Under.

00:29:39.920 With feminism on fire.

00:29:41.620 We are agreeing.

00:29:42.380 Women are going into the workforce.

00:29:44.380 Like I'm just kind of using a hyperbolic expression.

00:29:46.380 Like.

00:29:46.520 Okay.

00:29:46.660 Feminism is everywhere.

00:29:48.000 We are arguing that women need to have more opportunities.

00:29:50.660 Women need to have more rights.

00:29:51.600 They've taken that.

00:29:52.400 Now you have.

00:29:52.820 So feminism won.

00:29:54.200 So what now?

00:29:56.980 They won.

00:29:58.920 It's going to get worse.

00:30:00.040 Not better.

00:30:02.920 Unfortunately.

00:30:03.980 Yeah.

00:30:04.720 The majority of people that are graduating with college degrees are in fact women.

00:30:08.540 Men are committing suicide at a higher weight than women.

00:30:10.660 We're looking around the world.

00:30:11.680 Feminism also would push for like increased awareness of men's mental health.

00:30:14.500 That's fine.

00:30:15.400 Great.

00:30:15.740 You love feminism.

00:30:16.320 That's great.

00:30:16.800 We already know that we get it.

00:30:17.860 Most Americans agree with me, by the way.

00:30:19.420 Like women should have paid maternity leave.

00:30:21.160 I think culture is changing.

00:30:21.720 If you go issue by issue and by values, they might not associate with the term feminism

00:30:25.880 because people like you have made it toxic.

00:30:27.940 But the actual values of undergird feminism are extremely popular.

00:30:31.300 And then when they begin taxing so that we can account for paid maternity leave for three

00:30:36.260 months, which basically means a small business owner has to not have an employee while having

00:30:40.100 to pay months and months and months.

00:30:42.440 Like the person's not there.

00:30:43.760 They're not actually.

00:30:44.260 If a small business doesn't have the revenue to cover paid maternity leave, the government

00:30:46.940 would probably subsidize them to make up the cost.

00:30:48.600 No, I actually think that the way things were made more sense where we had an environment

00:30:53.240 where you could afford to take care of children with just one person bringing in income in

00:30:59.000 the house.

00:30:59.420 Is that possible in the current environment?

00:31:00.980 I mean, you can obviously.

00:31:02.040 When things are going to get way more expensive with these tariffs as well?

00:31:04.440 Like it's not going to be easy to afford anything in the coming years.

00:31:06.760 Is it going to happen overnight?

00:31:08.340 No.

00:31:08.660 But I think we need to be realistic about the fact.

00:31:10.740 Kids aren't as expensive.

00:31:12.360 I would, I would probably prep for that question, but I would have numbers written out about

00:31:18.580 how much kids cost.

00:31:19.780 If you take out the expense of things that women's taste is, you know, it's living in these

00:31:25.900 overpriced houses.

00:31:27.140 It's going to these expensive schools.

00:31:29.700 It's a lot of the costs are just stuff women want.

Pearl - July 03, 2025

Candance Owens Keeps Fighting Against 20 Feminists

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