Pearl - July 02, 2025


Candance Owens Survives Feminist Bloodsports?


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Length

29 minutes

Words per Minute

191.27898

Word Count

5,552

Sentence Count

518

Misogynist Sentences

89

Hate Speech Sentences

34


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00:00:00.000 That two-thirds of the 7.7 million illiterate adults is women?
00:00:07.700 Please return to your seat.
00:00:13.740 Hi.
00:00:14.360 Hi, Ceci.
00:00:15.100 Nice to meet you.
00:00:15.840 Nice to meet you.
00:00:17.120 So your claims that women will be happier at home.
00:00:19.840 I think you're conflating, though, happiness with importance.
00:00:22.300 Because I get what you're saying, where a woman can write a book and have kids,
00:00:25.460 but the kids are always going to make her happier.
00:00:27.460 But I think it just means that kids are always going to be more important.
00:00:30.000 Not necessarily make you happier.
00:00:31.720 But also, piggybacking on Naima, we don't live in an economy where people typically can have a one-income household.
00:00:39.320 Right.
00:00:39.720 Whether it be the mom or dad that stays home.
00:00:42.640 And so I think, and you keep bringing up the 1950s, which...
00:00:46.320 Because it was right before the fact.
00:00:47.220 I just don't know if that's the period of time that you want to go back to.
00:00:50.540 I'm just going back to the first wave of feminism.
00:00:52.720 But you want to undo progress that's been done.
00:00:55.660 So I'm curious as to what decade you'd be comfortable living in.
00:01:00.000 Especially as a Black woman.
00:01:01.580 Okay.
00:01:02.020 So we're going to park aside the race politics because I want to focus on...
00:01:06.820 Okay.
00:01:07.120 Then as a woman, what period of time do you want to go back to?
00:01:09.820 Just as a woman, I think that it was probably a better environment for women when we were...
00:01:15.920 Or we understood that raising our children was...
00:01:19.740 I heard the 60s were fun.
00:01:22.960 And the 70s.
00:01:24.140 I heard life was great in the 70s.
00:01:26.020 I think that's what I would pick because...
00:01:28.380 Actually, I like today, but I've heard the...
00:01:31.620 I would have loved to have been around before social media and just see what life was like back then.
00:01:38.220 Fulfilling.
00:01:38.740 But some women still do.
00:01:39.720 But I want air conditioning.
00:01:41.160 So, you know what I mean?
00:01:42.120 I do understand that.
00:01:43.660 Right.
00:01:44.120 A lot of women still understand that.
00:01:45.580 And I'm here advocating for you to be able to live the life that you want and for other women to be able to live the lives they want.
00:01:52.440 Do you have children?
00:01:53.280 No.
00:01:53.660 Okay.
00:01:53.940 You have a career, I presume?
00:01:54.980 Yeah.
00:01:55.360 Okay.
00:01:55.620 What do you work in?
00:01:56.540 What field do you work in?
00:01:57.500 I do hair.
00:01:58.180 Okay.
00:01:58.540 Wonderful.
00:01:58.860 So, I have both children and a career, as somebody pointed out.
00:02:03.520 And so, the fact that I'm saying that you will be infinitely more fulfilled at the end of the day by raising your children than you will be if you come home and you say, wow, I really crushed it, dying.
00:02:14.620 Right.
00:02:14.940 But it's like I can watch what you say or watch what you do.
00:02:17.720 I did an event with Candace.
00:02:18.940 I was kind of starstruck.
00:02:24.320 It's kind of weird sometimes when you see people like you've seen on screen.
00:02:28.200 I did an event with her.
00:02:29.680 And it was like a month after she had her kid.
00:02:32.200 Like, what are you doing?
00:02:33.340 Flying to Amsterdam?
00:02:35.640 Somebody's hair today.
00:02:37.440 What is it exactly that makes you angry about hearing that?
00:02:41.040 That's what I'm actually trying.
00:02:41.900 Nothing makes me angry.
00:02:42.660 I'm trying to get to the implicit revolution.
00:02:45.620 That's the thing is that no one is angry when someone mentions children.
00:02:48.460 No.
00:02:48.600 See, no one's angry when you mention children.
00:02:50.580 I get angry, I guess, when you mention that someone should have children.
00:02:55.120 Or you're trying to impose a lifestyle.
00:02:56.360 What is she arguing?
00:02:57.420 She's saying, I don't want to have kids with a beta.
00:03:00.640 All my ex-boyfriends are beta.
00:03:02.120 I don't want to do it.
00:03:03.520 I don't.
00:03:04.120 I don't.
00:03:04.560 I don't.
00:03:04.880 I don't.
00:03:05.180 And Candace, because the older women will tell you this, have kids with a beta.
00:03:09.980 Have kids with a beta.
00:03:11.420 No, I don't want to have kids with that.
00:03:12.920 That's the argument going.
00:03:14.100 And they don't realize it, but that's the argument.
00:03:16.460 Dial onto people that you want to live, which I think is kind of funny because as someone
00:03:20.340 who's anti-feminism, you practice it more than most women do.
00:03:24.060 I mean, every time you get on your podcast.
00:03:25.700 Pearl, would you say no fault divorce was a symptom of a deeper cultural shift that had
00:03:29.480 already started undermining men's roles, family, and society?
00:03:33.540 Or was it the real turning point?
00:03:35.020 So I had a child support officer on the show, or I don't know his official job title.
00:03:40.580 Thank you for the super chat, by the way.
00:03:42.040 You guys are being super generous today.
00:03:45.700 My understanding is that there was a lot of requests for no-fault divorce already, and
00:03:53.120 that there was a lot of people separated and not divorced.
00:03:55.400 So it was just kind of like a formality.
00:03:57.880 And that matches up with what I know about like my family, like the grandparents and great-grandparents.
00:04:04.100 A lot of people didn't, like they were just separated.
00:04:06.660 And I really think all of this is just nature correcting itself because most men didn't get
00:04:14.500 to produce historically.
00:04:17.320 So now women.
00:04:18.820 And then they enforced monogamy because it gets too violent if like the bottom third of
00:04:24.480 men are sexless.
00:04:26.020 So then it gets violent.
00:04:27.080 So the people in charge were like, okay, we need monogamy.
00:04:29.880 And the women were like, no, the women are like, we won't be straddled down with betas.
00:04:39.000 And this is what we got.
00:04:40.320 Every time you collect a check, you're practicing feminism.
00:04:43.640 Okay.
00:04:44.100 That's what you think.
00:04:45.100 No, that's what it is.
00:04:45.880 Actually.
00:04:46.560 Without feminism, you wouldn't be able to exist.
00:04:48.120 People keep saying, I hate when people say that, but it just shows that you, you haven't
00:04:51.980 done the research to even understand where the family.
00:04:53.720 Or you don't know history, which was discoverable.
00:04:55.820 That's what I'm saying about you because it means.
00:04:57.380 There was always female anti-feminist writers though, always.
00:05:00.360 Is that you don't understand that a bunch of government officials in the CIA funded
00:05:04.580 the feminist movement.
00:05:05.620 So for all of your hatred for the patriarchy and speaking about men.
00:05:08.360 So my question is, is it bad that they funded it or bad that it just happened?
00:05:11.560 Men wanted women to go into the workforce, the government, which had a lot of men.
00:05:17.100 It was being run by men.
00:05:17.600 Are you talking about because World War II occurred and we had to go to factories?
00:05:20.960 And then when we left the factories, they forced us back into the homes?
00:05:23.900 That's not what I'm saying at all.
00:05:25.100 So let me tell you what I'm saying, and then you can respond to it.
00:05:27.560 Go for it.
00:05:29.080 Gloria Steinem was considered to be a feminist icon, right?
00:05:32.520 Because she led these protests.
00:05:36.300 She also had a bunch of music festivals.
00:05:38.560 She got students involved.
00:05:39.920 It is just a fact that Gloria Steinem was funded by the CIA.
00:05:44.620 Okay.
00:05:45.740 The CIA being the male dominated CIA of the fifties and the sixties funded those movements.
00:05:51.600 So what, what, what do you think was the explicit aim?
00:05:55.060 Do you think it was because the government really wanted you to be more free that they
00:05:59.520 wanted to encourage women to enter the workforce?
00:06:00.920 Well, I have to be honest with you.
00:06:01.800 I couldn't speak on behalf of the government.
00:06:03.580 Okay.
00:06:03.720 You know, the women nagged them into it in their lives.
00:06:07.820 Guarantee it.
00:06:08.500 Some guys, woman just nagged.
00:06:10.580 I mean, and what their intention was.
00:06:11.820 I think it's important because you just said that I don't know history.
00:06:13.880 And I think it's pretty important if you're going to sit across from me and say,
00:06:16.100 I don't know history that you learn a piece of history and then question as you keep bringing
00:06:19.640 up men.
00:06:20.140 And I think it's funny because we should talk about men more.
00:06:22.680 Like you brought up suicide.
00:06:23.940 They're four times more likely to kill themselves, which is why.
00:06:26.280 And while women were twice as more often on antidepressants, but that's because we go
00:06:30.180 out and do what we need to do to keep coping.
00:06:31.900 Cause we're not happy.
00:06:32.420 And we need to focus on men and the patriarchy because it's actually oppressed them just
00:06:36.580 as much as women now emotionally.
00:06:38.180 Right?
00:06:38.620 Because when we're kids, we are, our parents teach us how to cross street, look both ways.
00:06:43.040 So you can get the other side unharmed when a boy comes across a feeling, and I'm using
00:06:46.900 men and boys here because they're the ones suffering women are too, but emotionally when
00:06:51.600 they come across a feeling they haven't felt before, we have to teach them how to get to
00:06:56.220 the other side and cope with it.
00:06:57.640 Otherwise they stay where they are.
00:06:59.280 That anger and resentment builds.
00:07:01.140 That's the feeling they become most comfortable with.
00:07:03.480 That's the feeling they go to first in most situations.
00:07:06.060 So we need to stop telling our boys that they don't cry because they do.
00:07:09.380 They just do it alone.
00:07:10.480 And then they become even more alone.
00:07:13.040 You're fat.
00:07:22.920 All right.
00:07:24.320 Jasmine, nice to meet you.
00:07:25.880 Okay.
00:07:26.440 So you say that women are more fulfilled at home with kids than going out into the workforce
00:07:31.140 or getting educated, but that just really doesn't bear out.
00:07:33.780 When you look at the stats, when you look at how working mothers are way less likely to
00:07:37.320 be in poverty, maternal education is the number one predictor of childhood outcomes, better scores,
00:07:42.300 getting higher incomes in the future, fewer behavioral problems, better mental health.
00:07:47.340 So it's weird to me with, and college educated women are least likely to get divorced.
00:07:51.580 And they're the only women, the top 10% of women are the only women whose marriage rates
00:07:55.520 are going up.
00:07:56.220 So they're getting married.
00:07:57.240 They're staying married and their kids are doing better.
00:07:59.540 When you look at stay at home mothers, you see that they're more likely to report being
00:08:02.620 depressed.
00:08:03.060 They're more likely to report having anxiety and anger and all these types of things.
00:08:08.080 So how can you say that?
00:08:09.300 She won't be the speak for the government, but she will, but she will speak for men.
00:08:14.180 SMH.
00:08:14.920 Seems like a woman, if you want to get married and have kids, you should go to college and
00:08:18.520 have a career.
00:08:19.180 So I, it sounds to me like we are looking at totally different statistics because everything
00:08:22.560 that you said, I've actually read the exact opposite.
00:08:25.240 Let's not talk about, like, I do studies because I have to, like, it's part of my job.
00:08:32.020 I can't just not use studies, but let's talk about what we see in real life.
00:08:39.660 What do you see?
00:08:40.560 Are women unhappy?
00:08:41.840 I don't see young women being unhappy.
00:08:45.920 I see old women unhappy when they can't get the attention from alphas anymore.
00:08:50.720 That's who I see.
00:08:51.900 That's when women crash out.
00:08:53.140 On a fact check show with you.
00:08:54.420 Right, exactly.
00:08:54.860 Oh, it's so exciting.
00:08:56.060 That's going to be amazing.
00:08:57.280 Okay.
00:08:57.600 Because I know, like I said, I think what we're talking about is that there was this widespread
00:09:01.620 report on-
00:09:02.280 When did this girl get fat?
00:09:03.740 My God.
00:09:05.620 Female happiness.
00:09:06.580 And I know that it was, it was formally debunked and it was-
00:09:09.060 That's not what I'm talking about.
00:09:09.960 Pew Research, University of California.
00:09:11.580 In fact, working mothers today spend more time with their children than women did in the
00:09:15.840 1960s that were at home.
00:09:17.340 Okay.
00:09:17.540 Well, women that I can tell you, women that are at home are obviously spending more time with
00:09:20.900 their children than the people who are at work today.
00:09:22.700 And their children are not faring off any better.
00:09:24.360 And they're faring off worse.
00:09:25.560 How are you measuring their children faring off worse?
00:09:28.120 How likely they are to higher incomes, better scores, fewer health problems, fewer behavioral
00:09:33.740 issues, and better mental.
00:09:34.680 So the, just to get back to the claim that I'm making here is that it is obvious that
00:09:39.660 women who have children are going to be more fulfilled.
00:09:42.140 How is that obvious?
00:09:42.980 Because you said that?
00:09:44.260 No, it's not obvious because I said so.
00:09:49.180 It's because when you look-
00:09:50.060 Candace is getting kind of tripped up.
00:09:53.020 They're kind of, I mean, it's tough.
00:09:54.560 It's a tough environment having like 20 people yell at you and just take shots.
00:09:58.620 I would have, the way I would have handled that is just say, look, for the purpose of this
00:10:04.160 debate, I am awful.
00:10:05.920 I am a bad person.
00:10:08.620 Can we move on to the topics and the studies?
00:10:11.820 Like that's, that is how I would handle it.
00:10:14.320 I would say, look, I understand.
00:10:15.860 I am a hypocrite.
00:10:17.180 I am a bad person.
00:10:18.740 I get it.
00:10:19.300 You guys don't like me.
00:10:21.200 What, like, can we move on?
00:10:23.160 That's what I would say.
00:10:24.680 That's how I would do it.
00:10:26.040 Look at all the statistics in terms of women who are choosing not to have families.
00:10:29.300 They are, as the person who just sat here before you mentioned, they are suffering from
00:10:33.980 more depression.
00:10:34.760 They're suffering from more anxiety.
00:10:36.200 And that's not true.
00:10:37.720 Okay.
00:10:38.040 It is true.
00:10:38.740 It is actually true that women who are choosing their careers over starting families are
00:10:43.020 finding themselves leaning more onto medicines like Xanax, anxiety inducing medicines and
00:10:49.220 depression because they suspended that timeframe where women really should be looking
00:10:53.000 to find a partner and to start a family because they were instead pursuing their careers.
00:10:57.260 There has been a, it has been, it is a dishonest.
00:11:00.520 Women don't like men that much.
00:11:02.600 Men drive us crazy.
00:11:04.000 They annoy us.
00:11:05.340 It's because we hate things that we can't control.
00:11:07.680 We can control children.
00:11:09.380 We can control the narrative.
00:11:10.960 We can control the media.
00:11:12.120 We can control the workforce.
00:11:13.340 We can control our income to some extent.
00:11:16.120 But we can't control men.
00:11:17.740 Men are uncontrollable.
00:11:19.740 And that's why it drives women crazy.
00:11:21.220 It's totally a dishonest narrative that men and women want the same things out of life.
00:11:25.520 We don't.
00:11:26.060 We absolutely do not want the same things out of life.
00:11:27.520 In fact, we don't even measure, we don't even measure success the same.
00:11:31.380 Men and women don't even measure success the same.
00:11:33.280 So, but tell me how the women who are working and getting educated, why are they faring off
00:11:38.380 better in all of these?
00:11:39.620 I am telling you that I do not believe they are faring off better in all of these matters.
00:11:43.180 And what, and you're doing that because of what?
00:11:46.140 I am telling you that we are looking at totally opposite statistics.
00:11:48.980 Like, so you're sitting here telling me that the statistics show that women who are working
00:11:52.280 are producing better children.
00:11:54.080 But I am saying that women that grow up in a two-family home where the mother stays at
00:11:57.600 home are faring off better than the children who are being raised in an environment where
00:12:01.800 the women are working, where both of the parents are working and away from the home.
00:12:05.440 I do get to work from home.
00:12:06.400 No, no, no.
00:12:06.900 That's the idea.
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00:13:22.180 I've heard from people in the industry she has a lot of nannies.
00:13:26.820 Don't know if that's true, but that's what I've heard.
00:13:29.100 I've never talked about all of the nannies I hire, but I spoke about how difficult it was
00:13:33.840 to find a babysitter who knew how to cook a meal.
00:13:35.780 But so now, Candace is entering into her frame.
00:13:40.020 Candace should have dismissed it.
00:13:41.480 What would I have said?
00:13:47.400 I would have said, you talk about all the nannies you hire.
00:13:55.580 Yeah, a million nannies, a thousand, hundred thousand, or you just dismiss, you move on.
00:14:00.120 Now, she's defending herself.
00:14:02.840 And this is something I had to, like, internally look at.
00:14:07.520 Why do you feel the need to defend yourself, like, to an OnlyFans model?
00:14:12.280 Your butt is on the internet.
00:14:14.820 I don't have to.
00:14:15.800 That's maybe what.
00:14:16.880 What would you put in the chat?
00:14:18.220 What would you tell Candace to overcome this objection?
00:14:22.540 I would either agree and amplify.
00:14:24.640 So, you know, you just say, yep, you know, I'm the worst mother ever.
00:14:29.260 I'm a terrible person.
00:14:30.660 So, can we just move on?
00:14:32.840 Or I would go a different route and say, let me listen to the rest.
00:14:47.240 Neil, and that's because you don't need a babysitter.
00:14:49.720 You're already, you could retire right now.
00:14:51.560 You have to let people respond to you when they're speaking.
00:14:53.840 You don't want to.
00:14:55.120 To respond to you when I speak.
00:14:56.260 No, you don't want to.
00:14:57.180 You want to be working, which is great.
00:14:59.260 You're telling me what I want now.
00:15:00.660 That's true.
00:15:01.300 I mean, her husband's worth $180 million.
00:15:05.480 She doesn't need to be doing this, but she's, like, choosing to put herself in politics,
00:15:09.400 which will affect her kids.
00:15:13.220 Yeah.
00:15:14.220 Which is fine.
00:15:14.940 I'm not saying she shouldn't.
00:15:15.880 I'm saying it's not what she's selling.
00:15:19.140 And then accusing me of telling you.
00:15:20.440 Wait, are you, you don't want to work?
00:15:21.600 Can you just let me finish?
00:15:22.560 Because you've said so many words that you just, what you're trying to do here, like your argument style,
00:15:26.860 is I'm going to say so much and not let her get a word in and then walk away and feel like I've won.
00:15:29.880 Get your word in.
00:15:30.260 We're not having a conversation because you're not letting me respond to even one of your points.
00:15:34.160 Okay.
00:15:34.820 What I am saying to you, for first to answer what you just said, which was a lie,
00:15:38.200 what I spoke to you about on the weekends is that it's been increasingly difficult to find a 25-year-old
00:15:44.420 who even knows how to make box macaroni and cheese.
00:15:46.840 Right?
00:15:47.520 And that's crazy.
00:15:48.600 And that is in large part due to feminism.
00:15:50.360 Women don't even focus.
00:15:52.000 Women don't even focus.
00:15:52.960 Like, there's this, there's this, there's this idea.
00:15:54.460 It's not really feminism.
00:15:55.460 It's Uber Eats.
00:15:59.340 That's really it.
00:16:00.240 Yeah, that women shouldn't be cooking.
00:16:02.220 Like, there's something fundamentally wrong with women even learning how to cook.
00:16:04.860 Are you spending as much time with your children as you possibly can?
00:16:07.640 Because that's the way to get the most fulfillment.
00:16:09.360 No.
00:16:09.740 And that's what I'm trying to say.
00:16:10.980 I am speaking to you as-
00:16:12.140 So then stop.
00:16:12.620 Okay.
00:16:12.900 Could you please let somebody get in a word edgewise?
00:16:15.220 I did.
00:16:16.160 I let you finish.
00:16:16.960 You're not.
00:16:17.400 You actually have not let anybody finish.
00:16:19.140 I have.
00:16:19.200 Like I said, it's, it's, no one benefits when you're just speaking over me and not allowing me to respond.
00:16:24.900 All you're proving is that you have an attitude and you-
00:16:27.520 Okay.
00:16:27.600 So, again, I would have dismissed it.
00:16:32.480 Let's get back to the topic.
00:16:34.860 Like, you can't, by saying, oh, now, like, now she-
00:16:37.920 That's why I think Jasmine actually won this, because Candace keeps entering into her frame.
00:16:43.840 Can you address the point now?
00:16:45.020 But you're not, you see, that's what I'm saying.
00:16:46.560 You just have an attitude and it's not, it's not cute.
00:16:49.080 It's performative.
00:16:49.820 I love if you address my point.
00:16:51.060 I will be quiet if you address my point.
00:16:52.920 Does anybody actually feel here that I am being allowed to address any of her points
00:16:56.700 when she just keeps running over me?
00:16:58.760 Like, I'm literally trying to answer your first point of you saying that I don't stay
00:17:03.600 at home.
00:17:05.280 Fair point.
00:17:06.120 Fair point.
00:17:08.040 Obviously, I get that you're all anti-Candace and pro-feminist, but also it's not productive.
00:17:12.680 Oh, that's a great response.
00:17:15.840 Candace should pay us for this.
00:17:17.540 Thank you, $5 super chat.
00:17:19.740 What she is doing for her culture war schtick is for her kids, so they won't date gynocentric
00:17:25.660 nut jobs.
00:17:29.760 We all know it's not, but that's a great response.
00:17:32.400 Do you know what I mean?
00:17:33.220 You're not actually-
00:17:33.760 Okay, address the point.
00:17:34.700 You spend more time saying that I'm not addressing, that you don't have a chance to talk.
00:17:38.420 I mean, the whole time you could have addressed the point.
00:17:40.300 Okay.
00:17:40.460 You could have talked.
00:17:41.120 I go for it.
00:17:41.820 I just want you to know that you're not coming across as somebody who wants to actually have
00:17:44.700 a conversation.
00:17:45.540 So, to get back to the claim, because I don't even know where you're at.
00:17:47.960 You're now talking, you're saying that I said stuff in my podcast-
00:17:49.540 I'll go wherever you want to go.
00:17:50.580 That I never said.
00:17:50.840 I'll go wherever you want to go.
00:17:51.360 Do you want to start with me working at home?
00:17:53.940 Because I work at home.
00:17:54.640 You just said something about me working at home.
00:17:55.940 You travel all around the world.
00:17:57.360 Okay, I-
00:17:57.900 You do speeches, and I love that.
00:18:00.420 I love how ambitious you are.
00:18:01.660 That's a really great trait.
00:18:02.680 And if you truly said that you would be more fulfilled.
00:18:05.140 Now, one thing you do find is women, they don't want to stay at home when you pull them.
00:18:08.300 They just want flexible working hours and flexible working conditions, like you have.
00:18:12.140 And I think we should all advocate for that.
00:18:13.780 It's not one or the other.
00:18:14.700 But when you sit here and you go, you'll be more fulfilled doing this and spend all your
00:18:17.840 time doing that.
00:18:18.460 We would love for you to leave the public eye and go focus on what makes you fulfilled.
00:18:22.160 Okay.
00:18:24.360 She cooked.
00:18:26.500 It's pretty embarrassing.
00:18:33.620 That was a great response.
00:18:34.660 If you had anything else that she should have added, it's tough.
00:18:37.360 It's a personal attack.
00:18:39.500 But that's what happens when you use your kids to build your brand.
00:18:44.040 I had a public relationship once, and I regret it with everything in me.
00:18:48.120 Making it public.
00:18:49.280 You know what I mean?
00:18:49.820 It's just, yeah, you don't want to do that.
00:18:52.980 That's why I'm kind of iffy when I talk about my personal life, because people just use it
00:18:58.600 to weaponize it against you.
00:19:01.220 And you learn this when you get into media.
00:19:03.260 But, yeah, if you cosplay trad and you're, like, putting on your Instagram stories, you
00:19:09.280 cooking for your husband and stuff, yeah, that's what you get.
00:19:14.960 Hey, before we go any further, we want to take a moment to say thanks so much to Straight
00:19:19.220 Air News for powering the fact that we live under a matriarchy, not a patriarchy.
00:19:36.960 Patriarchy, not a patriarchy.
00:19:43.980 Hi.
00:19:44.560 Hello.
00:19:45.040 Nice to meet you.
00:19:45.620 It's a pleasure to meet you.
00:19:46.780 I'm Princella, the queen maker.
00:19:48.340 I love that.
00:19:48.880 So you say we live in a matriarchy.
00:19:52.120 Right.
00:19:52.440 Can you give me the definition of patriarchy?
00:19:54.660 Yes.
00:19:55.060 Well, the patriarchy is the idea that the system, our system in America is being run by men and
00:20:00.760 that women are having to exist under a system that...
00:20:04.200 You know what I would say if I was Candace?
00:20:06.040 The good response.
00:20:08.880 I do work.
00:20:09.900 I have to bring home the bacon for my husband.
00:20:12.240 I got to give him king treatment.
00:20:16.860 I got to treat him like a king, you know, is Jasmine Jafar a five.
00:20:20.720 I would put her as more attractive than Candace, unfortunately.
00:20:24.960 I'd put her at like a 6.5 because she's younger, a little prettier, I'd say, even though she
00:20:30.900 has work.
00:20:32.080 Immediately disadvantages them because men are behind it.
00:20:34.900 And I disagree with that pointedly.
00:20:36.440 I think actually we're living in a society where people are being very much influenced
00:20:41.660 socially and politically by women.
00:20:43.940 Okay.
00:20:44.360 So the denotative definition of patriarchy is father rule and where positions of government
00:20:52.180 are held majorly by men, where women are largely excluded.
00:20:58.420 So 125 House of Representatives are female.
00:21:03.320 And that's only about 25%.
00:21:05.580 Right.
00:21:06.160 And only about 28%.
00:21:07.420 Right.
00:21:07.680 But they have to cater to women because women are the biggest swing voting bloc.
00:21:11.800 3% make up Senate and 3.3% of Congress up until this date have ever been women.
00:21:17.400 So by denotative definition, we literally live in a patriarchy.
00:21:20.820 Yes.
00:21:21.280 So I disagree with that.
00:21:22.440 So I think what this gets to, which is actually an important part of the conversation, is that
00:21:26.020 people always think that where there is disparity, there's somehow inequality.
00:21:29.300 And I actually reject that entirely.
00:21:31.220 I think it's just a difference in what we're interested in.
00:21:33.860 I think we're biologically wired, we're interested in different careers.
00:21:37.640 And just because we looked, if we looked in the fashion industry and said, oh, well, it's
00:21:40.780 being dominated by women, it wouldn't mean that, okay, well, that means that the fashion
00:21:44.820 industry is a matriarchy and men have no sense.
00:21:47.700 It just means have no ability to communicate how they feel in the fashion industry.
00:21:51.080 I literally think that those numbers show that we're just biologically different.
00:21:55.000 So I actually think politically women have shown that they have a lot more power than
00:22:01.600 men have.
00:22:02.100 And I'm talking about just in terms of political movements.
00:22:04.720 The most recent I can think of is the Me Too movement, right?
00:22:08.020 If a bunch of women get together and complain about a man and refer to the patriarchy and scream,
00:22:13.440 generally speaking, let me know if you agree, the media will celebrate that.
00:22:17.700 If a bunch of men got together and were shrieking and speaking about women, generally speaking,
00:22:23.680 the media would call them all white supremacists and say that we had a misogyny problem and
00:22:28.360 that things were really wrong in society.
00:22:30.220 Women are allowed to be more vocal in general about problems than men are.
00:22:33.160 Well, let me speak to that.
00:22:34.880 When we're talking about government and media, these are two different things.
00:22:38.680 So under the denotative definition of a patriarchy by the percentages that are occupied in the
00:22:46.400 government, which is majority male, defines us as a patriarchy.
00:22:51.760 Now, what it comes to for capitalism, for marketing purposes and control for capital and revenue,
00:22:58.800 that is a totally different conversation.
00:23:01.020 But who's making the laws?
00:23:02.680 I don't think that women are the ones voting to have their reproductive rights taken away,
00:23:08.500 where you have rape, incest, and all of these things excluded to force women to be able to
00:23:14.240 I don't think women in government would largely vote against their own interests because it's
00:23:20.060 majority male patriarchy.
00:23:22.060 Yeah, but you have to cater to the voting bloc.
00:23:24.760 That should have been her answer.
00:23:27.040 I think, love that point.
00:23:28.480 Are women allowed to vote?
00:23:29.800 Oh, of course they are.
00:23:30.940 Who's voting that patriarchy and then, out of curiosity?
00:23:34.040 No, I totally agree.
00:23:35.420 And you want to know why?
00:23:36.900 Because there are so many women who think like you.
00:23:40.340 You submit to the idea of men ruling everything.
00:23:43.600 And your ideology is spread across.
00:23:47.120 I think what I would say in these debates would get me kicked off of YouTube.
00:23:52.960 Yeah, because they're better at everything.
00:23:57.020 And you guys are nuts.
00:23:59.100 I don't want a woman in charge.
00:24:01.440 Not all women.
00:24:02.400 Not all women.
00:24:03.480 Oh, I can't.
00:24:04.980 Is that hard for you guys as men, just thinking these things and not being able to say it?
00:24:09.160 Government and media are not separate things.
00:24:11.340 Operation Mockingbird is alive and well.
00:24:13.400 Thank you.
00:24:13.860 A lot of women who also falsely believe to vote against their own interests just to complain
00:24:20.320 about it in the end.
00:24:22.340 You know, earlier you said that, you know, women would be much more happier working at
00:24:27.920 home.
00:24:28.340 But don't you agree that it's human nature to want things that you don't have?
00:24:35.680 So during the 1950s, which is something that you constantly bring up, you know, it wasn't
00:24:40.840 until 1994 that it was legally illegal to beat your wife.
00:24:45.200 And so what we're dealing with is people wanting something.
00:24:50.080 And then when they get it, they're not happy with it.
00:24:52.880 And then they have to.
00:24:53.640 But women are never happy.
00:24:55.600 So like the first mistake was ever trying to appease women because you could give them
00:24:59.420 the world and they still won't be happy.
00:25:01.160 Provoke that idea for something else.
00:25:03.840 And so what you're saying is that women vote for these things because they have the same
00:25:08.880 mentality as you.
00:25:10.340 Okay.
00:25:10.640 So you're acknowledging that women have the freedom to vote.
00:25:13.180 Yes.
00:25:13.640 And you're saying that women are still existing mentally, even with the freedom to vote.
00:25:18.260 Correct.
00:25:18.540 They are voting men in because we are still victims of.
00:25:22.360 No, I don't believe in victimhood.
00:25:23.860 I believe in lack of education, a lack of knowledge, because one of the things that you also say.
00:25:28.240 You think that it could just be that more men are running for positions of office?
00:25:31.080 No, not necessarily.
00:25:32.540 Because remember, the United States, the average reading comprehension of people.
00:25:36.800 I think it's because men are better at everything, but not all.
00:25:41.580 Not all.
00:25:42.720 Not all.
00:25:44.620 In the United States of sixth grade.
00:25:46.620 So we're not dealing with educated people.
00:25:49.300 Lack of education is the cause for what we see in the world.
00:25:53.240 And if we educate the women better, because a nation can rise no higher than this woman.
00:25:58.780 And if she reading and comprehending at a sixth grade level and popping out a lot of kids,
00:26:03.020 you know, because the brokest people in the world pop out the most kids.
00:26:06.280 So if we have those people voting, of course, they're going to vote against their interests
00:26:10.580 because they're voting for some utopian society that will never exist.
00:26:14.980 Okay.
00:26:15.200 So that's why you think Kamala lost.
00:26:17.440 This ain't even about Kamala.
00:26:18.780 Because you're talking about women.
00:26:20.040 No, but we had an opportunity.
00:26:21.980 Yeah, go ahead.
00:26:22.480 We had a male running and we had a female running.
00:26:24.260 Yeah, go ahead.
00:26:25.140 And they're like, Pearl, just say it.
00:26:27.120 Yeah.
00:26:27.640 I was unemployed for a year and a half.
00:26:30.440 That was not a fun year and a half.
00:26:32.280 I thank you guys every day for the super chat, but that was a tough.
00:26:36.020 Do you know what it's like?
00:26:36.780 I did this show basically throughout the whole time and you guys saw me.
00:26:41.500 My mood was terrible because I was working for free.
00:26:47.260 Yeah.
00:26:47.860 So, yeah.
00:26:49.620 Female running.
00:26:50.820 And we actually showed that Trump increased the amount of women who voted for him.
00:26:55.840 Right.
00:26:56.360 So I'm.
00:26:57.020 Because Trump's an alpha.
00:26:59.580 That's why.
00:27:00.260 Women love alpha men.
00:27:03.360 I'm asking you, do you believe that the reason that happened was because women became less educated during that time?
00:27:09.820 They've always been less educated.
00:27:11.740 Did you know that UNESCO says that the two thirds of the 7.7 million illiterate adults is women?
00:27:25.020 We always can't even read.
00:27:27.440 Oh, that's hilarious.
00:27:28.520 I feel like I can't read sometimes.
00:27:32.860 You know, I'm actually.
00:27:34.280 Do you know what's funny about that?
00:27:35.340 Oh, my God.
00:27:35.920 I'm going to cook.
00:27:36.520 They're going to cook me.
00:27:37.440 They're going to cook me.
00:27:38.920 They're.
00:27:40.140 Sometimes I'll read like words.
00:27:42.300 You guys notice it.
00:27:43.740 Like, I just can't pronounce them.
00:27:45.580 I don't know how.
00:27:46.220 I've literally thought about taking a reading class.
00:27:48.900 But that is hilarious.
00:27:50.160 We want.
00:27:50.680 We want us to have an equal say when two thirds of adults who can't read are women.
00:27:54.960 Illiterate.
00:27:58.720 And we have sixth grade educated people voting.
00:28:02.640 And guess.
00:28:03.120 God help us.
00:28:04.980 That gets the dominant population is white women.
00:28:07.960 And so guess what?
00:28:09.020 Now.
00:28:09.720 Hey, us too.
00:28:11.180 You have to add a race element into that and what you already know exists because we as
00:28:16.180 black folks, we ain't the dominant people voting people in.
00:28:19.820 Okay.
00:28:20.120 So now when we have to go into white supremacy and feminism, now you have to look at the mind
00:28:27.400 of the people who actually have economic success and what they're voting for because classism
00:28:33.920 actually matters as well.
00:28:35.260 So I'm sorry, but a lot of people vote based on their feelings and not based on policy.
00:28:40.300 Pause, guys.
00:28:41.220 Yes.
00:28:41.580 Sorry, you've been voted out by the.
00:28:42.840 She's almost more feminine than Candace in a weird way, even though she's doing the dyke
00:28:46.660 thing.
00:28:47.540 So she's like talking slowly, calm, cool, collected.
00:28:50.720 Majority, please return here.
00:28:51.880 Although to be fair, it's tough to be calm when you have like 10 people coming for you at
00:28:56.880 once.
00:28:57.500 I've been there.
00:28:58.460 It's tough.
00:28:59.820 Thank you for the rest of our conversation.
00:29:01.280 Thank you.