Pearl - June 12, 2025


Censorship, Political Bias & The Real Story Behind Fox News Bans w⧸ @LauraLoomered


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1 hour and 38 minutes

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197.26952

Word Count

19,473

Sentence Count

1,514

Misogynist Sentences

121

Hate Speech Sentences

96


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00:00:00.000 Do they just like take your stories then and they just don't invite you on the show?
00:00:04.740 Oh, I'm actually on the blacklist.
00:00:06.780 So I've been on the blacklist.
00:00:07.960 Yeah, there's a woman who's the head of Fox News.
00:00:09.820 Her name is Suzanne Scott.
00:00:11.160 So she's put me on the blacklist of Fox News.
00:00:13.340 Yeah, I've been on the blacklist for years.
00:00:14.600 For what?
00:00:15.240 I have no idea.
00:00:16.400 I just know that I'm on the blacklist.
00:00:17.780 And I have several friends who are, you know, primetime hosts at Fox News.
00:00:21.700 And even they're not allowed to have me on.
00:00:23.440 Really?
00:00:24.020 Yeah, they've told me that they've been told by Suzanne Scott that I'm on the blacklist.
00:00:27.420 And I was like moping around, laying in bed.
00:00:32.360 And I had the news on.
00:00:33.600 And I heard Nancy Pelosi say, a wall is an immorality.
00:00:38.360 And it is not who we are as a nation.
00:00:41.380 She was like pointing her finger, wearing the same color.
00:00:44.480 And it just clicked.
00:00:45.540 All of a sudden I said, you know what's an immorality is these politicians having their own walls around their own homes while American citizens continue to die.
00:00:57.420 And I was one of the first people like raising awareness about this when conservatives were calling it a conspiracy theory.
00:01:04.620 Right.
00:01:04.900 Because conservatives were calling censorship a conspiracy theory in 2017.
00:01:11.440 They said, oh, this is just like the wackadoodles on the right making this up.
00:01:14.800 And now everybody realizes that they really were.
00:01:16.660 So in 2018, when I filed the lawsuit that went to the Supreme Court, I had said that these government actors were acting as these, these, these, these social media companies were acting as state actors.
00:01:29.360 No, they're nuts.
00:01:30.280 They're totally crazy.
00:01:31.100 But a lot of the conservative women are insane, too.
00:01:33.080 I mean, it's not even like an issue of feminist versus conservative.
00:01:35.840 I can't stand most of the women in the conservative media world.
00:01:38.860 I just can't deal with them.
00:01:40.160 Yeah.
00:01:40.360 What up, guys?
00:01:46.740 Welcome to another episode of The Sit Down.
00:01:48.980 Today, I have a legend in the conservative space.
00:01:53.360 Welcome to the show, Laura Loomer.
00:01:54.980 For those of you that don't know, guys, Laura Loomer is like the goat of investigative journalism.
00:02:01.660 So she, we're going to get into it more, but you literally put people, illegal immigrants, on Nancy Pelosi's lawn.
00:02:09.580 You just stopped by the White House and you got, I mean, 15 people happened to be let go after you went there.
00:02:17.740 And you really break stories all the time on Twitter.
00:02:20.880 I don't think you get enough credit.
00:02:22.340 So welcome to the show, Laura Loomer.
00:02:24.140 Oh, thanks for having me.
00:02:25.340 I appreciate you inviting me on your show.
00:02:28.140 Great studio set up here.
00:02:29.700 So you're quite notorious yourself, too.
00:02:32.180 You have managed to piss off more conservative trad women.
00:02:36.160 I think that every single trad thought in the conservative movement hates you.
00:02:41.680 Yeah, because there was like an America's Most Wanted for, you know, who these women wanted to go after.
00:02:47.600 You're at the top of the list.
00:02:49.120 It's just so obvious.
00:02:50.860 But I love it.
00:02:51.440 It's great.
00:02:52.300 Yeah.
00:02:52.520 So what are your, you know, we're going to get into the trad hoes, but we'll get there later.
00:02:57.480 So I actually was really curious when I meet someone, I always kind of want to know what drives them.
00:03:04.040 So, I mean, you work like crazy hours.
00:03:06.840 I mean, you've really dedicated your life to getting President Trump elected.
00:03:11.940 You know, some would even argue that he wouldn't be in office if it wasn't for some of the stories that you broke.
00:03:17.500 So, like, what drove you to do that?
00:03:20.720 Well, President Trump is a transformative individual, right?
00:03:24.920 He has truly transformed the state of politics, not just here in the United States, but really around the world.
00:03:30.600 And he's really transformed the Republican Party.
00:03:32.860 And he's transformed our country for the better.
00:03:35.160 He's somebody that I've always found inspiration from, even, you know, as a teenager, just, you know, watching The Apprentice and watching Donald Trump.
00:03:44.840 Then as a reality TV star and as a businessman, entrepreneur, cultural icon.
00:03:52.000 And so when he first announced that he was running for president, or when it was first kind of teased, right, by Barack Hussein Obama, that Trump might actually run for president.
00:04:01.960 When he was joking, right, Obama, of course, was joking about it at the White House Correspondence Center.
00:04:08.660 Everyone.
00:04:09.020 I remember telling everybody, oh, he should totally run.
00:04:12.040 I would totally vote for him.
00:04:13.300 And I remember my, you know, my friends telling me, oh, you're crazy.
00:04:17.140 You think that Donald Trump could actually, you know, be president?
00:04:20.460 Everyone thought he was crazy, you know.
00:04:22.380 And this was when I was in college, and I actually met Donald Trump for the first time before he ever, you know, expressed his desire to run for president before 2016 at one of his golf clubs in Miami at the Miami Doral Trump National.
00:04:38.920 And he was on the golf cart with Melania Trump, and he was standing right next to Tiger Woods.
00:04:44.400 And I had, you know, gone to the golf tournament with a friend of mine, and I was like, oh, let's go see if we could see Trump, right?
00:04:51.100 Because I don't really know anything about golf, but I just wanted to see Trump.
00:04:54.940 And, you know, we got to see Trump, so it was pretty cool.
00:04:58.860 And then when I finished college and I moved to New York to work for Project Veritas full-time, I remember when Trump actually filed to run.
00:05:08.320 And I remember looking at everybody in the office, and I turned to James O'Keefe, and I said, he's going to be our next president.
00:05:16.780 So you were politically active before he even ran.
00:05:20.240 Yeah, no, I've been politically active.
00:05:23.040 So when I was in college, I was the president of the college Republicans in Florida.
00:05:27.760 And, yeah, I was very, very involved.
00:05:29.340 I worked for the Republican Party of Florida.
00:05:33.060 You know, I hate to even admit this because it's embarrassing, but I guess, you know, I wasn't going to root for the left or Obama.
00:05:38.780 But when Romney was running against Obama when I was in college, I think everybody was hoping that the Republicans would win, even though Romney ran a terrible campaign.
00:05:48.120 I was a field coordinator for Mitt Romney's campaign.
00:05:51.060 So while I was going to school full-time, I was also very involved in politics.
00:05:56.500 I was working 40 hours a week and taking 21 credits a week.
00:05:59.960 And I worked at the local Fox News station in Miami, Florida.
00:06:03.300 And then, ultimately, I ended up meeting James O'Keefe, who's the founder of Project Veritas and now O'Keefe Media Group.
00:06:10.400 And I ended up doing an investigation on my university that got me kicked out of college a month before graduation.
00:06:16.900 So...
00:06:17.400 Wait, what?
00:06:18.760 What was the investigation?
00:06:19.820 So, when I was the president of the college Republicans, I was constantly discriminated against.
00:06:26.960 I mean, you would have these students that would do the most outrageous things.
00:06:30.280 So, at first, I did a semester at Mount Holyoke in Massachusetts, which was, you know, a very expensive liberal arts college for women.
00:06:38.840 It was a women's college.
00:06:39.640 And I quickly learned that it wasn't the place for me.
00:06:42.140 I excelled academically.
00:06:43.220 I always had a 4.0.
00:06:44.240 I graduated with a 4.0 GPA from college.
00:06:46.740 But I just couldn't stand the culture.
00:06:49.120 It was way too liberal.
00:06:50.360 And I felt like I had to walk on eggshells or I was constantly reprimanded or made to feel like I was doing something wrong.
00:06:57.020 I didn't have a social life because I felt like nobody liked me because everybody was such a radical liberal, right?
00:07:04.400 Just surrounded by lesbians all day.
00:07:06.040 And I don't need gay people.
00:07:07.060 It just wasn't really the college experience I was hoping for.
00:07:11.940 So I transferred after one semester.
00:07:14.500 And I would have had to take a whole gap semester to go to the other schools that I got into.
00:07:19.120 Because I got into American University, too, in D.C.
00:07:21.920 And I thought, oh, I'll go to American.
00:07:23.660 And then when I looked at my options, they were like, well, you'd have to start, you know, after this semester because they were booked up.
00:07:31.300 And I didn't want to have to be delayed, right, in graduating from college.
00:07:35.280 And so I ended up just going to what was my safety school.
00:07:38.620 And that was Barry, Barry University in Miami.
00:07:41.440 And, you know, I kind of thought, oh, well, you know, I'm not going to really accomplish anything unless I go to, you know, an elite school, a big fancy school, very expensive.
00:07:51.460 But I was very wrong about that.
00:07:53.200 And so I just went to the, you know, I went to school at Barry University and I transferred.
00:07:58.380 I got a 75% scholarship in the honors program.
00:08:01.260 And I was able to focus on networking and working and, you know, quickly became the president of college Republicans within my first year at Barry University.
00:08:10.860 And like I said, I transformed it into one of the most successful Republican clubs in the state of Florida and, you know, quickly, quickly rose throughout the ranks within the Republican Party.
00:08:21.920 But so what was the investigation?
00:08:24.060 Like what got you?
00:08:25.220 So because I was so outspoken and I was so involved in Republican politics, the administrators were constantly gunning for me.
00:08:32.260 And I remember when I was working for the Republican Party of Florida, I was in charge of doing college campus voter registration.
00:08:38.840 And they took it very seriously.
00:08:41.040 Like the forms have, you know, serial numbers on them and you have to turn them in.
00:08:45.580 And if you don't turn them in, you could be fined $1,000 per form.
00:08:48.480 So some crazy girl accused me of not turning in her voter registration form.
00:08:52.920 Anyway, she was a total liberal and a liar.
00:08:56.000 And she was proven to be a liar.
00:08:58.000 Like this went all the way up to the dean of students.
00:08:59.920 And anyway, like she ended up getting exposed in the meeting for lying.
00:09:02.840 She said that her form was never turned in and that I ripped her form up when an investigation showed that she didn't put the right address on it.
00:09:11.680 And so they actually threatened to shut down my college Republican club.
00:09:15.480 They also threatened to shut my club down.
00:09:17.420 They threatened to shut it down multiple times.
00:09:19.360 And when I spoke out about an imam speaking at a 9-11 memorial service at my university on 9-11 and chanting Allahu Akbar, they said that I was racist against Muslims and that I needed to go see the school psychologist.
00:09:33.440 And they literally referred me to go see the school psychologist because I said that it wasn't appropriate for an imam to shout Allahu Akbar on 9-11 inside the school chapel, which is totally crazy just being gaslit by all these radical leftists.
00:09:46.020 So I'm like, okay, they're all crazy liberals and they have more sympathy for a terror-tidy mom than they do for a 4.0 honors student who is the head of the college Republicans.
00:09:57.180 And I ended up meeting James O'Keefe at a conservative conference and I wanted to do an investigation on woke culture in schools.
00:10:05.500 And I had this idea to create an ISIS club at my university because I thought, hey, you know, if they're not going to let me have my Republican club, then I'm going to see if they'll let me have an ISIS club.
00:10:15.120 So I literally got the director of the honors program to say that it was okay to create an ISIS club.
00:10:21.380 And I got all the Muslim students because we had a ton of Muslim students at the university.
00:10:26.220 I got like 20 Muslim students to sign up for my club because they would all just hang out.
00:10:31.220 We had this cafe at my school called the International Cafe and all these delinquent Saudi kids who were just there because, you know, the school had a partnership with the Saudi government.
00:10:40.760 And so all these degenerate Muslim students would come and they wouldn't even like pass their classes.
00:10:45.380 And so long story short, I got a hidden camera and I recorded the administrators and I was like, you know, it's really opened my eyes taking this this course, you know, in the honors program.
00:10:57.980 I'm really starting to see things from a different perspective and I realized that, you know, the United States is an authoritarian regime and we keep on exporting democracy and it's just not going to work and desperate people do desperate things.
00:11:11.300 And so I want to create a club called Sympathetic Students in support of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.
00:11:16.360 And how much money will the student government give me for my club?
00:11:19.980 And they said they would give me $500 per month for the club or something like $500 per month or $500 per semester.
00:11:27.080 Either way, it accumulated to like thousands.
00:11:29.420 And your Republican club was banned?
00:11:31.560 Like they would have won.
00:11:31.840 They were like threatening, they were threatening to shut it down multiple times.
00:11:35.080 They referred me to the Dean of Students for suspension and also to have my club completely shut down on three different occasions because so many people were gunning for me because I was very outspoken.
00:11:47.460 But, you know, they could never get me on anything because I was a star student.
00:11:51.320 You know, I was literally the best student.
00:11:53.800 And you weren't like part, you weren't doing anything illegal that they could get you for.
00:11:57.100 I didn't attend a single college party.
00:11:58.880 Yeah.
00:11:59.240 I didn't go to a single college party when I was in college at all.
00:12:01.700 And so they couldn't ever get me on anything.
00:12:04.260 And ultimately, what ended up happening is I got them on video saying, okay, you can have your club.
00:12:12.480 And I asked if I could use the money that they gave me to buy night vision goggles in bulk at Costco.
00:12:16.880 Like I made it sound so over the top, you know, to send to ISIS.
00:12:20.320 And they said, yeah, no problem.
00:12:21.600 Just change your club name to Sympathetic Students in Support from Sympathetic Students in Support of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria to Sympathetic Students in Support of the Middle East.
00:12:37.840 Wow.
00:12:38.320 And this video is online.
00:12:40.160 You can watch it.
00:12:41.200 It's literally on YouTube.
00:12:42.540 So I ended up getting kicked out of school.
00:12:44.500 The professor filed a criminal complaint against me.
00:12:47.200 A criminal complaint?
00:12:48.700 Yeah, because he was embarrassed because he was a moron because he signed off on an ISIS club.
00:12:53.980 So then he filed a criminal complaint against me saying that I illegally recorded him.
00:12:58.140 And then I got expelled from college even though I was set to be the valedictorian.
00:13:02.060 Oh, yeah.
00:13:02.340 This is at the top of your Wikipedia.
00:13:05.800 Oh, my God.
00:13:07.280 And then James O'Keefe had to hire a nice Jewish lawyer to help me get my diploma since the university was refusing.
00:13:15.980 Oh, my God.
00:13:16.600 Because I was in the honors program.
00:13:17.680 Wait, you gave a speech to a crowd of anti-Sharia marchers in New York City organized by ACT for America and condemned liberals who aligned themselves with Sharia law.
00:13:30.800 You put on a burqa?
00:13:32.520 Yeah, so you know that little, you know that feminist, you know that little feminist statue they have, the fearless girl statue in Wall Street?
00:13:39.200 Okay, no, I don't, but I'll take your word.
00:13:41.580 You should know about this.
00:13:42.700 I might if I saw it.
00:13:44.220 You've totally seen it.
00:13:45.320 Okay.
00:13:45.720 You know these stupid videos of these women in New York City taking videos with this, it's a little bronze statue of a little girl, and it's called fearless girl.
00:13:53.980 And the stupid feminists put the statue next to the Wall Street bull, you know the bull with really big balls?
00:13:58.640 Because they decided that they wanted to have a feminist statement on Wall Street, because there's too many men in Wall Street, they said.
00:14:06.180 Yeah, I mean, if they could get in.
00:14:07.560 I literally took a burqa.
00:14:09.600 Okay.
00:14:10.660 It's like, women are like, oh, I don't want to do the hard thing.
00:14:14.500 And then there's like, there's not enough women.
00:14:17.400 I took a burqa.
00:14:18.040 They do the hard job.
00:14:19.220 I took a burqa, and I covered their fearless girl statue with a burqa.
00:14:23.560 So do you just find this like fun?
00:14:26.120 Is that, I'm just curious, like you're, because I'm looking at, I'm looking at your Wikipedia, and it's worse than mine, and mine's bad.
00:14:32.660 But like, I just want to know, what's the drive, like, what's the drive behind it?
00:14:37.680 Do you, do you enjoy like trolling them?
00:14:40.300 Do you believe it's like a way to.
00:14:41.500 I like exposing people.
00:14:43.100 I just love it.
00:14:43.920 I live for it.
00:14:45.100 Yeah, okay.
00:14:46.360 I love it.
00:14:47.140 You, you.
00:14:47.720 I've just always really enjoyed shows where people get punked, and people get called out, and people get confronted on video.
00:14:53.500 My favorite show growing up was that show Cheaters.
00:14:56.360 I loved it.
00:14:56.980 It was just so exciting to me.
00:14:58.420 I loved it.
00:14:59.160 Yeah.
00:14:59.860 But I really just enjoy the adrenaline rush of catching people doing something that they're not supposed to be doing.
00:15:08.120 Yeah.
00:15:08.320 And exposing people.
00:15:09.160 It's just exhilarating.
00:15:11.300 You, you, what did Julius Caesar do?
00:15:17.580 You, you did a Julius Caesar.
00:15:19.680 So they had a rendition of Julius Caesar, Shakespeare's Julius Caesar in the park in, in New York, in Central Park.
00:15:30.380 And they decided to make Trump Caesar.
00:15:33.380 And so they had this rendition of it where they made it modern with all these feminist actors.
00:15:39.420 So instead of like Romans, right, they had a bunch of women and black people stabbing the Caesar Trump lookalike.
00:15:46.800 And everybody was bitching about it on television and on the news channels and talking about it on television and on the news channels and talking about what an abomination it was.
00:15:52.840 And I just got sick and tired of everybody complaining and I decided to take matters into my own hands.
00:15:57.780 So I showed up and I waited in line to get tickets.
00:16:00.620 I paid a ticket scalper, $500 cash for tickets.
00:16:03.380 And I ended up standing up in the middle of the live performance.
00:16:06.680 And right before they stabbed the Trump lookalike, I stormed the stage and ruined the entire play and started shouting about how you can't incite violence against the president of the United States.
00:16:17.720 No, this is criminal.
00:16:19.680 That's so funny.
00:16:21.440 And then I got arrested by the NYPD.
00:16:25.140 Yeah, I got arrested because I was standing up for Trump.
00:16:28.120 No one else had the balls to do it.
00:16:29.500 They were just like complaining about it.
00:16:31.460 And I was like, how does nobody have the balls to shut this play down?
00:16:34.440 They're trying to promote assassination porn about President Trump.
00:16:38.220 So I literally just stormed the stage and ruined the entire thing.
00:16:41.080 Do you know what?
00:16:41.580 I wasn't that politically active back then.
00:16:44.520 Like I don't even, in the first like Trump election, I was like 21, I think.
00:16:49.600 So I was in college and I just wasn't paying attention to politics at all.
00:16:55.120 But I just remember, so the month after he got elected, I went to this study abroad for a month in Martinique.
00:17:04.040 And it was, I didn't know it at the time.
00:17:06.280 You're talking about after 2016?
00:17:07.920 Yeah.
00:17:08.360 Okay.
00:17:08.600 And it was, it was like, we had J terms.
00:17:11.760 So it's like a month, you take a class for a month and it counts for like the whole, it's just for January.
00:17:16.880 It's, it's weird.
00:17:17.540 It's like, it was specific to my school.
00:17:19.660 But so I went to a month to this like island in the Caribbean and I didn't know it was all with English majors because it was an English class.
00:17:27.260 And they were so mad the whole time.
00:17:30.600 Like I was on a month trip with all of these like crazy feminine, because I was an econ major.
00:17:36.180 So like, I didn't really have, like, I didn't have a college experience with a bunch of liberal women.
00:17:41.700 You know what I mean?
00:17:42.120 Like my school was pretty liberal, but in the, I went to Elmhurst, but like, it was a small school.
00:17:49.040 It was definitely liberal.
00:17:50.020 Like we were one of the first schools that had trans in the dorms.
00:17:53.140 Like they were in my dorms, but yeah, we had those at Mount Holyoke.
00:17:56.400 I was kind of unfamiliar with it all until I went to Mount Holyoke and, you know, I was in a, I was in a triple.
00:18:02.820 With a trans?
00:18:04.220 No, with two girls who claimed they were straight.
00:18:07.060 And then I walked in on them one day making out with each other.
00:18:10.360 Yeah.
00:18:10.800 I mean, we had a whole floor of trans people.
00:18:12.740 It was crazy.
00:18:13.360 It was like.
00:18:13.880 Yeah.
00:18:14.260 I was on the third floor.
00:18:15.480 Second floor was trans.
00:18:16.340 When I had a boyfriend, like this guy I was dating who, you know, was going to a different school.
00:18:24.720 And I just remember that they were like, we don't want you to ever bring your boyfriend ever to the dorm.
00:18:30.700 This is a female space.
00:18:34.200 And I was like, so I'm not allowed to bring my boyfriend over if he wants to come visit me.
00:18:40.020 But you guys are allowed to make out with each other.
00:18:46.520 I don't know.
00:18:47.320 I just had to leave.
00:18:48.140 I couldn't take it anymore.
00:18:49.300 Yeah.
00:18:49.760 Well, on that.
00:18:50.460 And the final straw for me wasn't even the boyfriend.
00:18:53.340 You know what these bitches did?
00:18:54.740 What?
00:18:55.420 I had a Republican elephant poster on my, on my wall and they literally ripped it off the wall.
00:19:00.920 And that was the final straw.
00:19:02.400 I was like, I'm transferring.
00:19:03.480 I'm getting out of here.
00:19:05.900 Yeah.
00:19:06.260 I mean, for my school, it was really major dependent.
00:19:10.740 So you might be surrounded by liberals if you were in a certain major.
00:19:14.280 Does that make sense?
00:19:15.140 So like, like the English majors were just, oh my God, that was the worst month of my life.
00:19:20.120 I, you know how miserable as a human being you have to be for me to be on a tropical island and want to leave?
00:19:27.160 Because we would be, they were all fat too.
00:19:30.140 So they couldn't hike or do anything.
00:19:32.440 They would just, but I just remember, like, I feel like now it's like kind of cool to wear a Trump hat.
00:19:40.640 Like it's, you know, like mainstream celebrities are totally okay supporting Trump.
00:19:47.600 But 2016 was like peak woke.
00:19:50.560 Like people were so politically divided on Trump.
00:19:55.320 So it's almost like a different level of brave that you were back then because it wasn't cool to do at the time.
00:20:03.420 No, it really wasn't.
00:20:04.160 It was actually kind of dangerous living in New York to do this kind of stuff because people were really physically violent.
00:20:08.940 I mean, I had been out with some, you know, Trump supporters when I lived in New York and people actually had their faces bashed in with beer bottles.
00:20:15.960 Like people were physically attacked.
00:20:17.240 There used to be a time in this country right after Trump got elected where if you lived in a blue city or a blue state, you would get the shit beat out of you if you walked down the street in a mega hat.
00:20:27.500 Yeah.
00:20:28.420 But now, I mean, it's totally normal.
00:20:30.040 People do it all the time.
00:20:30.900 But back then in 2016, 2017, 2018, yeah, it's not safe.
00:20:36.240 So you got arrested.
00:20:37.540 Were you charged with anything or what happened?
00:20:39.380 Yeah, I got charged with trespassing, even though I had a ticket.
00:20:43.740 It was stupid.
00:20:44.500 And disorderly conduct.
00:20:47.280 And so did you get, so did like, what happened?
00:20:49.700 So then I had to pay a fee, a couple thousand dollars, I think.
00:20:54.720 It's a long time ago.
00:20:55.640 This was 2016.
00:20:56.340 It says you raised $12,000 for it.
00:20:58.600 Yeah, I was working with Rebel Media at the time.
00:21:02.340 And so they created a legal defense fund.
00:21:04.360 That money wasn't for me.
00:21:05.400 That was for them.
00:21:06.200 So they hired a lawyer.
00:21:08.340 And then the company, Rebel Media, took the money.
00:21:11.700 So that was another thing I didn't really like is because they made it look like it was my legal defense fund when it was actually created by Rebel Media, right?
00:21:19.560 So they took the money to hire this attorney.
00:21:24.360 And then I think there was like a $1,000 or $2,000 fine.
00:21:27.780 I don't remember.
00:21:28.740 And then I had to do some community service.
00:21:30.820 I had to like literally walk around and pick up trash around New York City to get the charges dropped.
00:21:35.560 And then it was off my record.
00:21:37.100 It was just disorderly conduct and trespassing.
00:21:39.100 I mean, I don't even give a shit if it was even on my record today.
00:21:41.240 I don't care.
00:21:41.680 It's like, so what?
00:21:42.780 I'm fighting for the end of political violence.
00:21:47.420 It's just so stupid.
00:21:48.560 It's crazy to me how you can go destroy property and monuments and wave the Palestinian flag wherever you want to go.
00:21:55.240 But if you protest the assassination of the president, which is literally a crime.
00:22:00.180 Like people used to go to jail for making jokes about trying to kill the president.
00:22:03.920 Literally illegal.
00:22:04.860 It's a felony to even joke about it.
00:22:07.060 Then you get charged.
00:22:08.980 Well, it's crazy too.
00:22:10.500 I'm just imagining all these people probably worked so hard on that play.
00:22:16.300 Yeah, but it was what was really funny about it is it took people a minute to realize that I wasn't part of the play because they thought that I was, you know, because they had people dressed in regular clothes.
00:22:24.600 It wasn't like a whole rendition where you had like the white robes and everything.
00:22:28.400 It was a modern rendition.
00:22:30.060 So the people that were stabbing Trump on stage when he was Caesar were wearing pussy hats, the pink pussy hats and Black Lives Matter shirts.
00:22:37.140 So it was a modern societal rendition of what it would be like if Julius Caesar were alive today in the current political climate.
00:22:47.100 Do you know what?
00:22:47.980 I crashed an abortion convention.
00:22:52.600 Or like not a convention.
00:22:54.660 It was just like a like a family.
00:22:58.760 I don't even know what it was.
00:23:00.040 There's some feminist event.
00:23:01.680 And I wore a women shouldn't vote shirt to it.
00:23:05.020 And it was so funny.
00:23:07.900 It wasn't anything like nothing happened.
00:23:09.740 Like I didn't get arrested or anything.
00:23:11.100 But their faces were just so mad.
00:23:16.540 Like I talked to the speakers at it at the end and they're like, do you just hate yourself?
00:23:21.340 And I'm like, and I'm just like, well, no, I just think women are idiots and you proved it on stage tonight.
00:23:27.180 And they were just like, but, and the thing was at this event, it's crazy how far these women will go to, to be whores and kill their kids.
00:23:36.340 Like at this event, they were teaching, they were making strategies of how to send abortion pills to other countries.
00:23:46.380 Isn't that nuts?
00:23:47.360 And I'm like, like countries that don't allow that stuff.
00:23:49.980 I'm like, you guys are so deranged that I understand people pro-choice.
00:23:54.200 I'm not even trying to like say one way or the other, even though I am pro-life.
00:23:58.780 But I just thought like, what kind of deranged do you have to be that you want to force like your Western culture on another country so much to the point that you want to send them abortion pills in the mail?
00:24:10.760 What is wrong?
00:24:11.780 Like these feminist women are just like literally insane.
00:24:16.200 No, they're nuts.
00:24:17.260 They're totally crazy.
00:24:18.060 But a lot of the conservative women are insane too.
00:24:20.060 I mean, it's not even like an issue of feminist versus conservative.
00:24:22.800 I can't stand most of the women in the conservative media world.
00:24:25.840 I just can't deal with them.
00:24:26.940 Well, yeah, we'll get to it.
00:24:29.960 I kind of wanted to ask you about.
00:24:31.580 But it's just funny when they're like, oh, you know, these liberal women versus conservative women, when you get down to it, there's really no difference.
00:24:37.520 No, I know.
00:24:38.240 I did.
00:24:38.740 You know what I, so I was telling you, yeah, we'll talk now about this.
00:24:42.080 I was telling you earlier.
00:24:43.000 I'm not a fan of the sisterhood.
00:24:44.580 That's why I think your content is really funny.
00:24:47.080 Every time I log online, Pearl's fighting with another person.
00:24:49.960 You're like fighting with another conservative woman.
00:24:53.000 Which is hilarious to me because I think it's really funny how a lot of these women get trolled by you personally.
00:25:00.420 I know.
00:25:01.120 I've never been a girl's girl, so I like watching it.
00:25:03.600 Well, they'll just be thirst.
00:25:04.880 You know what's so funny?
00:25:06.080 I don't do anything.
00:25:07.500 There'll be thirst trapping.
00:25:08.860 And all I ever do is I quote tweet it.
00:25:10.520 I do the same quote tweet.
00:25:11.480 I say, I've never seen women fight harder for anything than the ability to be naked.
00:25:17.460 And I'm like, and I'm like, it's crazy.
00:25:19.300 Wait, no, Pearl.
00:25:20.320 So, you know, you're telling me that for this podcast, you're not going to post a promo that says, Laura Loomer is my special guest on my podcast.
00:25:30.400 Tune in.
00:25:32.240 No, and I'm like, they'll be.
00:25:36.620 That's my favorite is when they're like, I'm here at the White House or I'm here.
00:25:40.760 I don't know.
00:25:41.380 It's just like, you know, oh, I'm about to drop an exclusive report.
00:25:46.480 Tune in.
00:25:47.220 I'm like, what does your cleavage have to do with this?
00:25:50.240 No, and you know what's annoying?
00:25:51.480 I just think it's really funny.
00:25:52.540 There's some meme that I saw where it's like, whenever guys want you to focus on something and it showed it like perfectly focused and leveled.
00:26:01.860 You'll have to look at the meme.
00:26:02.760 I forget where I saw this meme.
00:26:03.940 And I said, when a woman wants you to focus on something and it showed like the content zoomed in on her cleavage.
00:26:09.720 Like it was just, it was just comparing how men and women, if they want you to focus on a certain topic, like the men would actually focus on the object or the subject and the woman would make themselves the focal point.
00:26:21.160 Well, it's even funnier because I don't even tell them they're bad for doing it.
00:26:25.980 I just point out they're doing it.
00:26:27.780 Do you know what I mean?
00:26:28.160 I just point out it's a thirst draw.
00:26:29.740 I don't say, hey, you're ruining, you're ruining.
00:26:31.440 I don't, I don't, I know.
00:26:32.880 I don't say, cause they want people to think that they're geniuses.
00:26:36.200 Come on, Pearl, you're ruining the whole grip.
00:26:38.620 No, but conservative.
00:26:39.600 They need men to think that they're so intelligent.
00:26:41.400 Conservative men are like the biggest simps because they'll die on the, they'll attack me for noticing that they're naked.
00:26:48.120 I'm like, I'm like, if your skirt is-
00:26:51.440 You're just jealous, Pearl.
00:26:52.860 You're just jealous.
00:26:54.120 You're just jealous that you'll never be that hot.
00:26:55.940 I'm like, hey, hey, I'm like, hey, look it.
00:26:57.760 You can be hotter than me, but you're still naked.
00:27:00.520 You can like, you win, you win.
00:27:02.880 And then these women are like, they'll send their followers after you and like bully.
00:27:08.480 But they don't have any substance to say, they just attack, they attack the looks.
00:27:12.760 They do the same to me.
00:27:13.780 They call me, they call me all types of names.
00:27:15.740 I'm like, I don't call them ugly.
00:27:17.760 All I say is, hey, this girl's naked.
00:27:21.600 I mean, she knows what she's doing here.
00:27:25.260 And, but what conservative women will do is they'll like, toe the line as much as they possibly can.
00:27:30.760 So they can get the sexual attention while claiming purity.
00:27:34.040 At least the hoes are honest, right?
00:27:35.980 They just say, I'm a whore.
00:27:37.120 And I'm like, thank you for the honesty.
00:27:38.960 Well, honestly, what's your price?
00:27:40.600 These girls, they say that the only thing that's stopping them from being treated like OnlyFans girls
00:27:44.840 is the fact that they say that they're conservative Republican commentators.
00:27:48.960 Otherwise, you would literally think that their content was for OnlyFans.
00:27:52.400 I know.
00:27:53.000 I mean, the half naked photos with the guns, with the poor trigger discipline.
00:27:58.320 Oh my gosh, the calendar gate.
00:27:59.740 The calendars.
00:28:01.140 It's just, you know.
00:28:02.600 And it's so crazy.
00:28:03.640 It is like OnlyFans content.
00:28:04.940 And do you know what?
00:28:05.980 For the younger women, I'm like, look, she's trying to catch a man.
00:28:09.400 I'll let her go.
00:28:09.980 You know, and I'm not, I'm not saying she should or should.
00:28:12.740 But I disagree with you on that.
00:28:14.200 Like, I don't even think that, that, that should be excused because this idea that you have to
00:28:18.520 basically sexualize yourself to get a man.
00:28:21.000 And I'm not a feminist.
00:28:22.180 I'm not a feminist.
00:28:23.040 I really am not one of these women that's like, oh, you know.
00:28:25.400 But that's not what I'm saying.
00:28:27.000 I want it to only like me for my personality.
00:28:28.680 But this idea that you have to take your clothes off in order to get a boyfriend is just so.
00:28:33.520 I mean, you don't have to, but it helps for them for what they're trying to sell.
00:28:37.840 Right.
00:28:38.100 I'm not, I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to.
00:28:40.080 I don't know if it does.
00:28:40.580 I'm not, I'm not trying to excuse it.
00:28:43.720 All I'm saying is like, be honest about what you're doing.
00:28:47.380 Like, I see what you're doing.
00:28:48.740 You're trying to get a boy.
00:28:49.540 You're trying to thirst.
00:28:50.180 Yeah.
00:28:50.840 What, I'm not saying it's right, but I'm like, all right, whatever, go ahead.
00:28:54.920 But can we just, and I've had women like block me, unfollow me all because I said, hey, you're
00:29:01.580 naked, you know, it just, but what's even more, sorry, this is where I was going with
00:29:08.100 it.
00:29:08.300 But I can at least understand where they're coming from when they're young, single, and
00:29:14.740 trying to catch a guy.
00:29:16.180 What I cannot understand where they're coming from at all is when they're old, married, and
00:29:22.020 they have kids and a husband at home.
00:29:24.180 What is wrong with you?
00:29:25.760 At least I can like somewhat be like, at least the young women, you could say, well, they're
00:29:30.580 like young, you know, people do dumb stuff when they're young.
00:29:33.720 Maybe they'll mature.
00:29:34.460 They'll get older.
00:29:35.260 Well, they're bored because they're trying to live a, they're trying to convince themselves
00:29:38.200 that they like their lifestyle.
00:29:39.740 And look, I recognize my life, right?
00:29:42.420 I'm going to be 32 soon.
00:29:44.320 I'm not married.
00:29:45.480 I don't have kids.
00:29:46.820 I'm not sitting here crying about it.
00:29:48.860 I don't care.
00:29:49.560 Like if it happens someday, it happens.
00:29:51.380 If it doesn't like, you know, whatever, you know, it is what it is.
00:29:55.680 But a lot of these women, they make content trying to convince themselves that they're still
00:29:59.440 young that, oh, you know, the best thing that ever happened to me was getting married
00:30:03.140 and having kids.
00:30:04.140 And it's like, if the best thing that ever happened to you is getting married and having
00:30:08.020 kids, you would be home with your family and your husband and your amazing kids that you
00:30:12.700 want everybody to think are so amazing instead of posting thirst traps of yourself online.
00:30:17.440 So either your kids are not fulfilling you, your husband is not fulfilling you, or you're
00:30:22.800 just not a good partner.
00:30:24.200 And you probably are not happy with your relationship or your marriage.
00:30:27.360 And they use their family for clout.
00:30:29.920 They totally do.
00:30:30.920 It's like, why are you, like, they almost use their husband as like an accessory bag.
00:30:38.200 Like, it's almost like a Prada bag.
00:30:40.080 Like the way they, like.
00:30:40.800 Well, they post it on social media.
00:30:42.140 It's all fake.
00:30:43.140 I mean, we were talking about, you and I were talking about this last night at dinner.
00:30:45.240 It's like, I don't know.
00:30:47.260 I personally, it's called a personal life for a reason.
00:30:49.860 And I, even if I was married and I had children, I would never post photos of my husband.
00:30:57.780 I would never post photos of my kids online.
00:30:59.620 It's called personal because it's supposed to be personal.
00:31:02.260 And I just think that when women go out of their way to post these like fairy tale photos
00:31:07.860 on social media where it's like, oh, happy anniversary, baby.
00:31:11.700 I love you so much.
00:31:12.700 It's the most perfect relationship ever.
00:31:14.620 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:31:15.940 It's like, who are you trying to convince?
00:31:17.360 Like, why do you have to write a story for other people?
00:31:20.780 You know, I just find it to be very weird.
00:31:22.440 I just.
00:31:22.760 And they use it as a way to win arguments.
00:31:24.840 Yeah.
00:31:25.140 Like, it's like, oh, here's my husband and kids.
00:31:27.760 I'm like, do they want to be put in the middle of like, because you know how it is when you're
00:31:32.300 in politics, they will, they will go through any means to try to attack or destroy you.
00:31:38.000 So that it's not that they just try to ruin your life, but who's next?
00:31:42.360 The people you love.
00:31:43.440 So when you're doing very political content and you're using your boyfriend, your husband,
00:31:49.780 your kids as a way, one to win arguments.
00:31:52.780 You're basically putting a target on them.
00:31:54.680 Correct.
00:31:55.120 Like, what's the, like, I'll see a lot of like, like I see Matt Walsh do this all the time
00:31:59.200 where he like, it's like, oh, my kids, my wife.
00:32:01.600 And I'm like, do you know, like you go after the trans people.
00:32:06.500 They're, that is a vicious group.
00:32:08.000 I've pissed off every group.
00:32:09.300 I've pissed off.
00:32:10.160 They're violent.
00:32:10.760 They're killing people.
00:32:12.240 Yeah.
00:32:12.700 I'm like, why would you want to put your.
00:32:14.760 They're militant.
00:32:15.680 Yeah.
00:32:15.860 And like, I'm not gonna, you know, be holier than thou.
00:32:20.280 You know, I understand that mistakes can happen.
00:32:22.860 Right.
00:32:23.800 But it's just like at 40, what's your excuse?
00:32:27.700 Like, it's kind of the same reason I was explaining before at 22.
00:32:32.500 Okay.
00:32:32.940 You can kind of chalk, like if someone commits a crime at like 20, you can kind of chalk
00:32:37.500 it up to their young, they can rehabilitate.
00:32:40.120 But it's like at 40, you know, I'm not trying to say it's the same thing, but do you get
00:32:44.560 the point?
00:32:45.020 Like, it's like when you're like 40 years old, you would like.
00:32:48.440 I think that a lot of people, they, especially like social media influencers or content creators,
00:32:53.140 they, they feel this pressure to keep up with appearances.
00:32:56.280 Like, oh, I have to make everybody think that I'm some holier than thou, super religious
00:33:02.140 person with a happy family.
00:33:03.760 And it's like, you know, they're probably miserable.
00:33:05.960 Look, I know firsthand from being in this industry for 12 years now, all these guys for the most
00:33:11.440 part, and I'm not here to rag on men, but a lot of these men that call themselves conservatives
00:33:16.000 and they say that they're, you know, religious, they all are cheating on their wives at the
00:33:21.980 conferences.
00:33:23.040 Do you know what?
00:33:23.520 They go to, they go to these young conferences that are targeted for people that are barely
00:33:26.840 legal.
00:33:27.180 Like I'm talking 18, 19 year old girls.
00:33:29.200 And you have these like pretty girls, some of them who look like, you know, they're much
00:33:32.960 older, some of them barely legal, fawning over these guys.
00:33:36.820 Oh my God, I follow you.
00:33:38.160 You're so great.
00:33:38.540 Let me take a selfie.
00:33:39.780 Oh my God.
00:33:40.680 You know, and they love the attention because it makes them feel wanted when their wives
00:33:44.280 probably don't really make them feel that great.
00:33:46.500 And they all cheat on their wives.
00:33:48.160 Some of them are gay.
00:33:49.020 Like some of these men are closet homosexuals.
00:33:50.800 I've seen it with my own eyes.
00:33:51.920 So for me, like anytime I see it, especially with the women, it's like, oh, you know, you
00:33:56.260 were just at a conference cheating on your husband.
00:33:58.420 And how many of the women have nannies raising their kids?
00:34:00.980 Like how a trad are you if you pay someone to do your job?
00:34:04.300 Do you know what I mean?
00:34:05.020 Like they'll, they'll use the kids for clout, but if you're outsourcing motherhood, like, are
00:34:10.560 you really being a mom?
00:34:12.220 Like someone else is doing it.
00:34:13.620 But the other thing too, that was a big like red pill thing.
00:34:17.520 Cause I grew up very like sheltered.
00:34:19.480 So I didn't really think people cheated.
00:34:22.040 Like I didn't, I didn't really know until I got like, till I got older.
00:34:26.240 And then you start to, you know how it is.
00:34:28.100 Maybe you didn't grow up sheltered.
00:34:30.120 But for me, I'm not saying you did or didn't, but for me, I went to boarding school.
00:34:34.720 So, uh, I'd say I grew up pretty sheltered.
00:34:37.060 I went to college, but even then, like, I tried to stay off campus because I just hated
00:34:41.140 being around people.
00:34:41.560 Like the first married guy I saw cheat on his wife, I like, couldn't believe it.
00:34:45.520 Like, I was like, do you know, like, but I got into this industry and I just thought
00:34:50.140 it was like here and there, it didn't really happen.
00:34:52.200 And like, that was just a one-off and the, one of the red pill things that like pissed
00:34:57.560 me off is they said high value men cheat.
00:34:59.780 Right.
00:35:00.200 And I said, no, that's not true.
00:35:02.380 That doesn't happen.
00:35:03.360 Like men with money, power, stat, like the men that can, some of them don't, they have
00:35:07.440 morals.
00:35:08.440 And then, and I really thought part of it was cause I would consume conservative media
00:35:12.880 and I would see guys with, and part of it was like my dad, you know, he's like he,
00:35:17.280 and there are guys that don't, but on a balance of probabilities.
00:35:22.200 Like this industry black pilled me a little bit on cheating because I'm like pretty much
00:35:27.840 all of them do.
00:35:29.060 Yeah.
00:35:29.220 Especially in conservative media.
00:35:30.680 Yeah.
00:35:31.360 I mean, it's a tough spot.
00:35:33.060 I, I, most men aren't going to be in a position where young women are just throwing themselves
00:35:37.240 at them.
00:35:37.920 So I have a little bit of like, you know, they're human, but just.
00:35:44.280 I try to avoid it all.
00:35:45.760 I just, I don't know.
00:35:47.620 I just don't really, I don't want to sound like a narcissist when I say this, but.
00:35:52.200 Nobody who speaks at these conferences has anything more interesting to say than I have
00:35:57.000 already said.
00:35:58.560 Yeah.
00:35:59.560 I don't want to sound narcissistic for saying that, but I've never gone to a political conference
00:36:04.980 and listened to a conservative commentator speak and walked away saying, wow, that person
00:36:09.200 is so much smarter than me.
00:36:10.460 No, if anything, I think the smartest people in media don't become famous because.
00:36:16.900 They're gatekeeped out because it's a lot of jealousy and people don't want to, you know,
00:36:21.420 they don't want to give a platform to people that are just more talented.
00:36:26.180 But that's why I don't, the only reason I go to political conferences is if I'm meeting
00:36:31.760 with a client.
00:36:32.460 Do you know what, for me, I don't think it's that, the gatekeeping, because if you're talented,
00:36:38.200 like your show will just get views, like things will just happen, but you don't need
00:36:42.320 anybody.
00:36:42.760 But like Mr. Beast doesn't, he started a media company in the middle of nowhere and people
00:36:47.600 go to like podunk, you know, because he's the talent.
00:36:50.640 But the challenge with very intelligent people is they can't dumb it down for the masses.
00:36:57.600 And I think in media, a lot of times, like Ben Shapiro destroys woke college kid is going
00:37:03.440 to get way more views than like a really intelligent, like debate on like philosophy or something
00:37:10.400 that's higher IQ.
00:37:11.880 Does that mean, would you agree with that?
00:37:14.400 Yeah.
00:37:14.800 Or when it comes to women too, you know, you could be really talented at what you do as
00:37:20.520 an investigative reporter, but if you're not out there looking like a bimbo and, you
00:37:24.600 know, saying like after every single word and putting your tits out there as your thumbnails
00:37:29.660 for every single story that you do, you know, maybe, maybe you're not going to get on all
00:37:34.360 the mainstream media networks because they just want to have that kind of stereotypical
00:37:39.720 look.
00:37:40.200 Just look at all the, just look at all the commentators on Fox news to look.
00:37:43.840 And so they just, do they just like take your stories then and they just don't invite you
00:37:48.940 on the show?
00:37:49.480 Oh, I'm actually on the blacklist.
00:37:51.640 So I've been on the blacklist.
00:37:53.040 Yeah.
00:37:53.180 There's a woman who's the head of Fox news.
00:37:54.880 Her name is Suzanne Scott.
00:37:56.200 So she's put me on the blacklist of Fox news.
00:37:58.380 Yeah.
00:37:58.560 I've been on the blacklist for years.
00:37:59.680 For what?
00:38:00.320 I have no idea.
00:38:01.480 I just know that I'm on the blacklist and I have several friends who are, you know,
00:38:04.940 primetime hosts at Fox news and even they're not allowed to have me on.
00:38:08.500 Really?
00:38:09.080 Yeah.
00:38:09.280 They've told me that they've been told by Suzanne Scott that I'm on the blacklist.
00:38:13.100 That's the thing.
00:38:13.740 It's always a woman that apparently there's some woman in media.
00:38:17.820 I don't know who she is, but I've had two or three people cancel on me and they say
00:38:22.380 that some woman said not to come on my show.
00:38:25.620 I don't know who it is.
00:38:27.220 I'm like, who did I piss off enough to like?
00:38:30.180 Yeah, it's pretty crazy, but they just steal my stories.
00:38:33.660 They steal my work, but it is what it is.
00:38:36.080 I mean, the P I'm so, I'd say that my following is so large now that people before it was hard
00:38:42.460 because not enough people would call it out, but now it's so obvious to people where the
00:38:46.700 content came from.
00:38:47.620 So if somebody ever steals my story, you know, I have my own followers.
00:38:50.640 It's like a Loomer's army.
00:38:51.920 That's what we call it.
00:38:52.620 And they literally will just go ratio them and say, oh, Laura Loomer have this first.
00:38:56.340 So it's, uh, there's a lot of plagiarism.
00:39:01.000 I mean, you've seen it.
00:39:02.220 There's a lot of people that plagiarize concepts for media or show concepts.
00:39:08.360 What happened with, okay, I need you to talk about Nancy Pelosi.
00:39:14.240 I've seen that video.
00:39:15.640 That one's funny.
00:39:16.400 How did you come up with that idea?
00:39:19.400 Did you like, how did you put that together?
00:39:22.980 Actually first for my audience, January of 2019, wait, wait, wait, for my audience,
00:39:27.760 they might not know what happened.
00:39:28.760 So tell them first what you did and then tell them how you came up with it.
00:39:34.000 So, uh, it was so funny.
00:39:37.200 Oh, when Trump was president the first time around in 2019, we had a government shutdown
00:39:43.720 and it was the longest government shutdown in U S history.
00:39:47.620 And it was over funding for the border walls because the Democrats didn't want to approve
00:39:52.580 $5.7 billion for president Trump's border wall.
00:39:56.920 So president Trump wanted to build a border wall on the U S Mexico border to keep all the
00:40:01.920 illegals out.
00:40:02.680 And Nancy Pelosi said no.
00:40:04.220 And a lot of the Republican rhinos said no.
00:40:08.200 So, um, around the same time, cause this was January around the holiday season, there was
00:40:13.240 an illegal alien who killed a cop in California.
00:40:16.600 Really sad story right before Christmas.
00:40:18.620 And I just remember seeing how the Democrats were more outraged over there being a government
00:40:23.500 shutdown because, you know, Donald Trump wanted this funding for his wall than they were about
00:40:28.260 the fact that an illegal alien murdered a cop.
00:40:31.260 And so I remember being really upset and kind of depressed because, you know, it was right
00:40:35.360 after I got banned on Twitter.
00:40:36.680 I got banned on Twitter permanently in November of 2020, 2018.
00:40:40.440 And I just remember being at home in Arizona where I'm originally from.
00:40:47.600 And I was like moping around, laying in bed and I had the news on and I heard Nancy Pelosi
00:40:52.860 say, a wall is an immorality and it is not who we are as a nation.
00:40:59.340 She was like pointing her finger wearing the same color.
00:41:01.380 And it just clicked all of a sudden.
00:41:04.140 I said, you know, what's an immorality is the, you know, these politicians having their
00:41:07.800 own walls around their own homes while American citizens continue to die.
00:41:12.380 So I don't know how I just came up with the idea while I was laying in bed.
00:41:15.340 And I said, I could easily go down to the Mexican border and find some illegal aliens or show
00:41:20.020 how easy it is to get into this country illegally.
00:41:22.160 Or I could go to the Home Depot and get some illegals.
00:41:24.960 So that's what I did.
00:41:25.660 I literally rented a car the next day.
00:41:27.460 I swear to God, I was in the kitchen with my dad and he was making an omelet.
00:41:31.700 And I said, he was making me some eggs, like an omelet and some potatoes.
00:41:35.780 And I was like, gotta go.
00:41:37.520 He's like, aren't you going to eat this?
00:41:38.520 I said, nope, gotta get on the road.
00:41:39.720 I gotta be in California.
00:41:41.120 So I literally rented a car.
00:41:43.520 And I remember going to Enterprise, like right away, getting a car and driving to the Mexican
00:41:49.560 border.
00:41:50.140 And I had this videographer guy that I was working with at the time.
00:41:53.000 And I told him to meet me there.
00:41:54.420 And we drove down to this borderline called Ote Mesa and got out of the car.
00:42:02.080 And I filmed myself going through the hole in the wall on the Mexican border to show how
00:42:07.080 easy it is.
00:42:07.800 So I stepped into Mexico.
00:42:09.400 It's really that, it was really.
00:42:10.740 Oh yeah, it's on video.
00:42:11.620 I stepped into Mexico and I was like, look, I'm in Mexico.
00:42:15.260 Now I'm in California.
00:42:16.180 I'm in Mexico.
00:42:16.940 Now I'm in California.
00:42:17.900 And so I was like, I was able to show how easy it would be.
00:42:21.340 And I was like making it really theatrical.
00:42:23.160 And I said, oh, well, I guess I gotta go claim sanctuary now.
00:42:26.480 This is at the time of all the sanctuary cities, when everybody was talking about sanctuary cities
00:42:30.620 and illegals being protected.
00:42:32.000 I said, I gotta go find a nice rich Democrat to claim sanctuary.
00:42:35.220 I pretended like I was an illegal alien.
00:42:37.280 So then I filmed myself driving from the border to San Francisco and the Napa Valley, which
00:42:44.500 was where Nancy Pelosi's big vineyard is.
00:42:48.880 And, you know, it's a sanctuary city.
00:42:52.440 So the illegals there are free to just be illegal.
00:42:56.140 They do catch and release.
00:42:57.180 If you're illegal, they will identify you and then they'll just release you back into
00:43:01.000 the public.
00:43:01.380 And so I went to the Home Depot and I found several illegal aliens and I asked if they were
00:43:07.160 there illegally.
00:43:07.920 They said yes, because they're not worried about it.
00:43:09.960 They were from Mexico and Guatemala.
00:43:11.680 And I told them that I was filming a political movie and that I wanted some illegal immigrants
00:43:15.380 and I was willing to pay them cash.
00:43:18.840 And so they got in their truck and they followed us in our car.
00:43:24.120 And then I've just filmed them.
00:43:25.860 I, you know, got them construction hats and I got a tent and I had them.
00:43:30.280 Did they understand what was going on?
00:43:32.140 Well, I speak Spanish.
00:43:35.600 Okay.
00:43:36.360 So they knew that, like, were they scared of being, like, on a politician's lawn?
00:43:43.020 They didn't care.
00:43:43.920 That was the whole point.
00:43:45.040 Oh, because.
00:43:45.680 Just to just show how brazen it is because of California's policies, the catch and release,
00:43:50.080 that you could literally bring illegal aliens to the Speaker of the House's home and hop
00:43:55.800 her fence.
00:43:56.280 And so I decided to make it really theatrical and she didn't have security.
00:43:59.080 So I literally, like, got a tent at Walmart.
00:44:04.200 How did she not have security?
00:44:06.240 Being as hated as she is.
00:44:09.080 I got a soccer ball, you know, because Hispanics like to play soccer.
00:44:14.400 They love it.
00:44:15.180 I don't know what it is.
00:44:15.820 Those little Mexican men, they love playing soccer.
00:44:17.820 They love kicking balls.
00:44:18.420 And I got some Mexican Coke, like the real stuff in the glass bottle, not that cheap shit,
00:44:23.400 like the real Mexican Coke.
00:44:25.180 And I got a trampoline.
00:44:26.980 And then I got photos of all of, like, the high-profile cases of American citizens who had
00:44:32.160 been murdered by illegal aliens.
00:44:33.460 And I had them laminated at FedEx.
00:44:36.800 And I got zip ties.
00:44:37.980 And I made the illegal aliens unpack the tent and pitch the tent and set the zip ties up
00:44:44.220 and hang the photos of every single American that I, like, high-profile case that had been
00:44:49.360 murdered by an illegal alien on the tent.
00:44:51.480 And then Nancy's, you know, they were just playing this shit all over the news.
00:44:54.400 Oh, a wall is an immorality.
00:44:55.880 It's not who we are as a nation.
00:44:57.020 And I got red spray paint.
00:44:58.900 And I spray-painted immorality in red letters.
00:45:02.100 And it was dripping so it looked like blood.
00:45:03.900 And I sprayed it all over the tent.
00:45:05.760 And it was dripping all over the photos of the people.
00:45:08.760 And then I filmed myself reading their names while the illegal aliens were standing next to me.
00:45:12.680 Were you?
00:45:12.900 And they didn't know, like, what was going on because they didn't speak English.
00:45:15.560 They're illegals.
00:45:16.300 And so the cops showed up.
00:45:19.000 And I bet they kind of agreed with you, right?
00:45:21.480 I bet they kind of liked you.
00:45:23.000 The cops know.
00:45:23.700 They probably loved it.
00:45:24.420 But they were asking for ID and I was just playing it up.
00:45:27.540 Like, ID, what is that?
00:45:28.400 That's racist.
00:45:29.020 I thought that Governor Gavin Newsom said that ID was racist, right?
00:45:32.420 But I was able to show how the illegal aliens on her lawn didn't.
00:45:36.080 This was like the third person in line to be President of the United States.
00:45:39.300 Right.
00:45:39.780 Right?
00:45:40.320 Didn't have IDs and they didn't do anything except let them go.
00:45:45.660 Literally, they were illegal aliens.
00:45:47.220 I mean, you could see it on camera.
00:45:48.540 They have no ID.
00:45:49.320 And we did it on purpose.
00:45:50.460 So then I thought, oh, you know, the only reason why it ended up going super viral
00:45:54.400 was it was live streamed.
00:45:55.660 I did this live and it was live streamed all over the internet.
00:46:00.140 It was the number one trending stream online.
00:46:02.220 It was all over the news.
00:46:03.420 Everyone was talking about it.
00:46:04.620 And then the cops literally were on the phone with Nancy Pelosi because they had to ask her
00:46:09.080 whether or not she wanted to press charges.
00:46:10.900 And so everybody's watching this live and she declined to press charges because she would
00:46:15.120 have had to press charges against illegal aliens.
00:46:17.400 And it would have made her look like a total hypocrite.
00:46:19.980 So I realized the only reason why I didn't get arrested and charged is because I had
00:46:24.420 illegals with me.
00:46:25.420 So I thought, I'm going to do this again, but I'm just going to dress up like an illegal.
00:46:29.140 So then I dressed up in a poncho and a sombrero and I took the tent to Governor Gavin Newsom's
00:46:34.160 house at the California governor's mansion.
00:46:36.080 And I pitched a tent on his lawn and he allowed for San Francisco to be covered in shit and
00:46:40.080 needles, you know?
00:46:41.160 So I brought bags of poop and I put them all over his lawn and I brought hypodermic needles
00:46:45.320 with me.
00:46:45.760 And I just like opened like a hundred needles, like a bag of 10 and I sprinkled them all over
00:46:50.620 the governor's lawn.
00:46:52.540 And they told me not to hop the fence.
00:46:54.440 And I was like, whatever, I'm hopping on this fence.
00:46:56.520 So I was dancing in my, you know, with my mariachi hat and my sombrero and my maracas.
00:47:02.460 It's all on video.
00:47:03.640 And ultimately I got arrested and they charged me with trespassing and I got taken to jail.
00:47:08.500 But it was to prove a point.
00:47:09.880 It was to show how the Democrats will charge you for trespassing if you hop the wall at
00:47:15.000 their home.
00:47:15.840 But as we've seen over the last several years, they think it's okay for illegals to trespass
00:47:20.180 on our borders.
00:47:20.920 So it was important.
00:47:22.580 And I don't care about getting arrested because for me, it proved a point and it proved the
00:47:27.920 hypocrisy of the Democrat party.
00:47:29.960 And so what was that?
00:47:32.340 Is that on your record?
00:47:34.240 Did they know I had to hire an attorney.
00:47:35.740 So I had to hire an attorney and then I had to fly to California for court.
00:47:39.880 And all this, these coalition of angel moms, angel moms are women or parents, right?
00:47:46.040 Angel parents, they call them parents whose children have been murdered by illegal aliens.
00:47:49.400 They actually showed up to my court date and they stood in solidarity with me and they
00:47:53.400 protested outside the courthouse.
00:47:55.080 Wow.
00:47:55.500 And so the judge ended up, it was an agreement.
00:48:00.120 So I had to do, I think it was like 32 hours of life skills courses.
00:48:05.200 So I had to take a course for like two weekends in a row in California where I like had to
00:48:10.340 sit there with a bunch of career criminals.
00:48:11.840 And you know, it was like group therapy session and just my left.
00:48:15.040 So there was all these career criminals and then you.
00:48:19.100 And it was like an alcohol, it felt like an AA class.
00:48:21.020 What did they do?
00:48:22.180 Like what did the other people do?
00:48:23.680 Were you like asking them what they did?
00:48:26.580 So, so it was really fucked up because the guy who was putting, they put ex-criminals in
00:48:31.100 charge of these sessions because they're like, I'm an ex-criminal and I'm here today to show
00:48:35.040 you guys that you don't need to be like me and you can turn your life around.
00:48:37.760 So they have these like hardened criminals who actually serve time teaching the life
00:48:41.480 skills courses.
00:48:42.340 And like one of the girls was a prostitute.
00:48:44.440 One of the guys was like a big time hacker who had to make an agreement with the federal
00:48:47.920 government, like actual criminals.
00:48:49.760 One of them was a shoplifter.
00:48:51.080 One of them committed armed robbery.
00:48:52.860 You know, one of them was like gangbanger.
00:48:54.580 And this guy who's in charge of it was like a Mexican gangbanger.
00:49:01.640 So you were, you were in this.
00:49:03.480 When we were going around the circle and this Mexican gangbanger who was a
00:49:07.680 officiating the life skills course at you, like they ask you what your name is and why
00:49:12.000 you're there.
00:49:12.480 I told them and he thought that I was like trying to be funny because he was Mexican.
00:49:16.700 So we started like getting really crazy and aggressive with me, like a full blown, he's
00:49:20.660 like a cholo.
00:49:21.500 You know what cholo is, right?
00:49:22.680 I don't know.
00:49:23.600 It's like a Mexican gangbanger.
00:49:26.380 Okay.
00:49:27.160 I'm not making this up.
00:49:28.080 I believe you.
00:49:30.060 So this cholo started getting really crazy and he's like, get the fuck out of my class.
00:49:33.900 Get the fuck out of my class.
00:49:35.060 You think you're going to be racist towards Latino?
00:49:37.020 I'm a Latino.
00:49:38.000 You, you think that, do you think that this is funny?
00:49:39.680 You think I'm a border hopper?
00:49:40.780 And he got really crazy with me.
00:49:42.280 And I was like, respectfully, sir, that is literally why I'm here.
00:49:51.120 Was he a border hopper?
00:49:54.600 No, he was not illegal, but he was getting offended because he was Hispanic and he thought
00:49:59.500 that I was, you know, racist.
00:50:01.000 I was like, it would be even funnier if he actually wasn't legal.
00:50:03.860 So you have like a court officer who you have to call that like facilitates your, your like
00:50:10.100 life skills or whatever your punishment is.
00:50:12.200 And I had to call them and they had to call the guy managing the life skills class to tell
00:50:15.420 them to let me in because he kicked me out of the class because he thought I was being
00:50:19.480 a racist.
00:50:20.340 When that was literally the reason why, like, sorry, I'm not a prostitute.
00:50:23.340 When they threw me in jail, when I was, uh, when I had to spend, almost spend an entire
00:50:27.480 night in the Sacramento County jail, which is like one of the worst jails in the country.
00:50:31.060 It's literally like one of the top 10 worst jails in America.
00:50:34.220 Um, I was in there with hookers, like actual prostitutes.
00:50:38.800 Did you like when they book you, they put you there and like the girls there were booked
00:50:42.460 for prostitution.
00:50:43.400 Did they do anything like crazy in jail?
00:50:46.320 Like, did you see anything?
00:50:48.840 They were just sitting there.
00:50:49.920 Okay.
00:50:50.320 So it wasn't anything like that.
00:50:51.860 No, they were just girls there.
00:50:52.980 They were literally booked for prostitution.
00:50:55.900 One of them was a drug addict.
00:50:57.440 I wonder how you would do in jail.
00:50:59.640 Like if you were like there for a couple months.
00:51:01.700 Well, when I was arrested, I was wearing a beige Ralph Lauren turtleneck.
00:51:05.400 I feel like, oh no.
00:51:08.340 So like all these girls are dressed like prostitutes and they're fishnets and they look like shit.
00:51:12.640 One of them is a drug addict, like scratching her skin in the jail cell.
00:51:15.720 And one of the girls just turns to me and goes, my, my, what did you do?
00:51:20.700 Baby girl, you do not look like you fit in here.
00:51:23.520 Because I'm literally wearing like a, you know, like a beige turtleneck and like black pants,
00:51:30.700 you know, and I have a nice like Ralph Lauren belt on.
00:51:33.780 And you're sitting in jail.
00:51:35.160 And I'm sitting in jail with all these.
00:51:36.580 Is that your most viewed YouTube video?
00:51:37.980 I'm like sitting in jail with these girls that are there for prostitution and selling drugs.
00:51:42.540 And I don't know.
00:51:44.080 It was just crazy.
00:51:45.540 Was that your most viewed YouTube video?
00:51:47.720 Yeah.
00:51:48.060 I mean, but that was the most viewed YouTube video I had.
00:51:51.580 I didn't really use YouTube that much because they demonetized me and they shut me down.
00:51:55.580 But at the time when that happened, that was my most viewed YouTube video.
00:51:59.060 But it got way more views on Periscope because before, you know, Periscope was a real thing.
00:52:03.520 But because I had live streamed it.
00:52:06.360 What was getting demonetized and deleted like for you?
00:52:10.120 Like how much money do you think you've lost over the years?
00:52:12.760 Oh, millions of dollars.
00:52:14.200 Yeah.
00:52:15.560 Millions of dollars.
00:52:17.560 Like I'm not, no exaggeration.
00:52:19.420 Millions.
00:52:19.740 No, I.
00:52:19.960 In 2019, I had an Instagram account that had 500,000 followers just like completely taken from me.
00:52:26.380 And this was before like all the monetization stuff blew up.
00:52:29.820 And I built that account without even having to post like any thirst traps.
00:52:33.780 Seriously.
00:52:34.700 And it was just all like based off my intellect and the stories that I was breaking.
00:52:39.200 You know how hard that is to get like a news account as a woman?
00:52:43.020 And that was taken from me.
00:52:44.320 And that was in 2019.
00:52:45.980 Since then, I've run for Congress twice.
00:52:47.520 And, you know, every single week I'm in the national media.
00:52:50.700 Literally, if I didn't have my Instagram banned and taken away, I would probably have like
00:52:55.900 five or six million Instagram followers.
00:52:58.740 And I'm told that I could probably be making over a million dollars a year just from my
00:53:02.840 Instagram account.
00:53:03.580 Like speaking with brand specialists and people I know in the industry and other people I
00:53:07.480 know who have similar, you know, had similar accounts.
00:53:10.280 There's people I know.
00:53:11.360 Like at that time, I was actually bigger than Candace Owens at that time when it was 2019.
00:53:16.860 I had more followers on Instagram than Candace Owens.
00:53:20.920 Wow.
00:53:21.320 Because that's like when she was really blowing up, right?
00:53:23.200 Is that, I think it was like 2019 is when she really blew up.
00:53:26.340 2018, 2019.
00:53:28.040 And so she has, you know, if you compare the trajectory of people in their careers, look
00:53:31.620 at her.
00:53:31.840 She's been able to have books.
00:53:33.240 She's been able to get millions of followers on Instagram.
00:53:36.120 And I just think like if I hadn't been shut down, would I, you know, be in that same
00:53:39.980 position given the fact that I had more followers, you know, when you just compare where people
00:53:45.260 are over these last like few years or six years and where they were when you were completely
00:53:49.520 shut down, there's people I knew who had no followers and now they have more followers
00:53:53.900 than I do because they've been able to, you know, have unrestricted social media.
00:53:58.300 So it's career for me.
00:54:00.280 That's just one example, right?
00:54:01.460 Because, and I think I even used her as an example in one of my lawsuits to show the damages,
00:54:06.080 right?
00:54:06.300 To show the screenshots of how, oh, look at this point in time, this is how many followers
00:54:10.500 she had.
00:54:11.320 This is how many I had just to give an example.
00:54:14.040 And now look, right?
00:54:15.120 She has one of the biggest shows online.
00:54:18.280 And I sometimes wonder if I hadn't been shut down and I hadn't been demonetized and, you
00:54:22.840 know, I hadn't had my Wikipedia page completely taken over with lies, where would I be?
00:54:29.000 I might, I might be in the United States Congress right now.
00:54:31.200 It could be a lawmaker.
00:54:32.240 Who knows?
00:54:33.420 And so definitely lost millions of dollars.
00:54:36.320 And wait, you see, who did you sue?
00:54:38.580 Twitter, Twitter, Facebook, Google, Apple.
00:54:41.680 Did you get anywhere with it or no?
00:54:43.480 It went all the way to the Supreme court.
00:54:45.380 Oh, really?
00:54:46.220 And they ruled against you?
00:54:47.220 I was one of the first people like raising awareness about this when conservatives were
00:54:50.620 calling it a conspiracy theory, right?
00:54:52.720 Because conservatives were calling censorship a conspiracy theory in 2017.
00:54:59.240 They said, oh, this is just like the wackadoodles on the right making this up.
00:55:02.600 And now everybody realizes that they really were.
00:55:04.700 So in 2018, when I filed the lawsuit that went to the Supreme court, I had said that these
00:55:10.620 government actors were acting as these, these, these, these social media companies were
00:55:15.460 acting as state actors in coordination with the government to, in a conspiracy, a coordinated
00:55:22.440 conspiracy to silence and censor conservatives and interfere in our elections.
00:55:25.940 That was in 2018 that I said this.
00:55:28.320 Okay.
00:55:28.780 I was so ahead of the curve.
00:55:30.060 Who, who, who said, who said you were like, which conservative said that?
00:55:33.720 I mean, if you go back and you look at all the mainstream conservatives, they tried to
00:55:37.600 brush it off when Alex Jones and myself, I mean, yeah, like I get along with Charlie, but
00:55:43.260 Charlie is one of the people, there were, there were a lot of people at first that didn't
00:55:46.880 take, yeah, all of them.
00:55:48.340 When I think of that time period.
00:55:49.120 They now realize that it's real because it's happened to them too.
00:55:52.100 But when it first happened, like you could not get any of these people to speak out about
00:55:55.720 all the censorship against people because it was all of the controversial people like
00:56:00.460 Laura Humer and Paul Joseph Watson and Alex Jones.
00:56:03.540 That's the thing.
00:56:04.360 Like so many conservatives aren't really free speech absolutists because like they're selling
00:56:10.300 that they're free speech.
00:56:11.680 Right.
00:56:12.040 But they're not because they only jump on things when it's trendy and they're not willing to
00:56:16.320 like lose their money.
00:56:18.060 The only person I can really say you Crowder, like I really, obviously Nick, but I try to
00:56:28.620 try to stay away from that topic, but I like Nick, but no, no, but do you know what I mean?
00:56:36.000 Like, it's really not, um, sure.
00:56:39.340 Like they're just like, there's, I can't think of any other than, it really is true.
00:56:43.800 Do you know what I mean?
00:56:44.540 Like there's very few that are going to say their thoughts, um, at the cost of money.
00:56:52.820 Like even Candace Owens, like, I think it's pretty convenient.
00:56:56.240 The, we might cut this, we might leave it.
00:56:59.360 I don't know.
00:56:59.700 But like the anti, like the, her Israel stance has shifted the second, like she's not paid
00:57:07.360 for it anymore.
00:57:08.720 Do you know what I mean?
00:57:09.080 Like, I just think it's really convenient that her opinion changes now.
00:57:13.800 Do you know what I mean?
00:57:14.640 Yeah.
00:57:15.480 I mean, I just think that the rules are different for different people.
00:57:19.720 I mean, the stuff that she says about Jews, she's allowed to say openly on YouTube and
00:57:23.720 she is allowed to be monetized.
00:57:25.360 And yet I was making comments like that about Islam and Muslims and I was completely demonetized
00:57:30.680 and shut down for hate speech.
00:57:32.560 So I don't know.
00:57:33.760 It seems like the rules are a little different for some people and some people are able to
00:57:37.300 have larger channels.
00:57:38.380 And I was never able to even, I wasn't even able to get my, my videos posted when I ran
00:57:43.660 for Congress.
00:57:44.180 They shut my account down when I was in the middle of my congressional campaign and I was
00:57:48.400 the first candidate in the nation to run for office who was denied all access to social
00:57:52.400 media.
00:57:52.980 No way.
00:57:53.340 So I had no Twitter, no Facebook, nothing.
00:57:55.700 Even when I won my primary.
00:57:56.640 You had nothing.
00:57:57.540 No, they wouldn't allow me.
00:57:58.520 So they, they kicked you off of all social media platforms before I ran for office.
00:58:03.060 And then I was thinking that when I ran, they would be required by law to give me an account.
00:58:06.800 They literally changed their policies just so that they could keep me off because I was
00:58:10.760 such a high profile individual.
00:58:12.220 No way.
00:58:13.500 And I want, people said that I had no chance of winning my primary.
00:58:16.460 I won my primary.
00:58:17.480 Trump voted for me because I ran in Palm Beach.
00:58:19.820 He literally voted for me.
00:58:21.640 He endorsed me.
00:58:23.000 And even when I won my primary and I was the official Republican on the ballot in, um,
00:58:30.080 in the general election, I wasn't allowed to have any social media and the Republican
00:58:34.880 party didn't issue a statement in my defense or anything, didn't do anything to help me.
00:58:40.800 Wow.
00:58:42.340 So, so I was, you know, everybody wants to complain about censorship now, but you know,
00:58:47.580 I've been dealing with it since.
00:58:49.060 Yeah.
00:58:49.220 I mean, you've been dealing with it for a decade.
00:58:50.860 You're really one of the OGs.
00:58:52.420 That's crazy.
00:58:53.300 Yeah.
00:58:53.480 I literally have been dealing with censorship for a decade and I was one of the first people.
00:58:58.080 And so.
00:58:59.240 That was one of the really like disheartening things when I got into media was seeing how
00:59:04.220 many of like my favorite conservatives could really be bought, you know?
00:59:09.780 Um, and just how, uh, like really you, Nick and Crowder are really the only three that are
00:59:19.300 not, that I would say are free speech.
00:59:23.760 I can't, I'm sure there's more.
00:59:25.500 I just can't think of any because you three are really the only ones willing to say what
00:59:30.120 you think.
00:59:31.000 Like, and you guys disagree on certain things.
00:59:33.280 You're not all on the same page, but you're all willing to say what you think.
00:59:37.000 Even if YouTube kicks you off, even if YouTube deletes you.
00:59:40.120 Well, I don't even bother with YouTube anymore because it's just.
00:59:43.580 No, we're going to get you back on YouTube.
00:59:45.480 Come on.
00:59:45.800 We need.
00:59:46.020 I was telling her on last night, I'm like, we gotta, you need to reapply.
00:59:50.820 You need to clear the channel, reapply.
00:59:53.340 And at least YouTube needs some like at least low hanging fruit from, you can go off on your
00:59:59.060 rumble show, but let's get some like Laura Loomer reacts to woke.
01:00:05.140 I mean, I just think of, I look at some people who are making so much money on YouTube and I
01:00:08.960 just think to myself, my videos go so viral.
01:00:11.100 I get 500 million impressions a month on X.
01:00:13.400 No, you would kill.
01:00:14.000 And I just think like if I had been able to actually monetize my YouTube channel, I'm
01:00:18.540 not kidding.
01:00:19.060 I would be a whole time.
01:00:19.840 Me and you should go to college campuses actually, because you're a little like when I'm not a
01:00:25.780 yeller, you know, but I feel like if they really start to go off, I'm going to bring you out.
01:00:33.540 Can you imagine, you know, that set up like on a college campus?
01:00:36.740 Yeah, where it's like changed my mind.
01:00:38.960 Yeah.
01:00:39.380 I don't know.
01:00:39.820 Myron did it recently.
01:00:40.940 Did you see that?
01:00:42.200 No.
01:00:42.420 What did he do?
01:00:42.900 I'll show you later.
01:00:44.500 But he went on a college campus and like, there's just like all these woke kids.
01:00:49.320 It's kind of like what Ben Shapiro used to do.
01:00:51.300 What did he do?
01:00:51.900 Did he hold up a sign and say women deserve less?
01:00:54.160 Change my mind.
01:00:55.060 No, I think he just gave like a general speech in the beginning.
01:00:58.800 But like he would just tell these fat people to lose weight.
01:01:02.460 He would like, there was a lesbian.
01:01:03.980 He gave me a copy of his book and it's literally been in my trunk.
01:01:07.160 I read it, but it's literally been in my trunk for like months.
01:01:10.360 Why women deserve less.
01:01:11.400 And it's so funny because like, I don't know why I haven't taken this out of my trunk, but every single time that I get my car washed or any single time I'm like with a friend and putting groceries in my car, they always crack up because the first thing they see when they open up my trunk is the book in the corner of my trunk that says why women deserve less.
01:01:28.880 It's just, I don't know.
01:01:30.660 I just forgot to take it out, but it's really funny.
01:01:33.460 How did you like fresh and fit going on there?
01:01:35.840 It was good.
01:01:36.520 Yeah, you had fun.
01:01:36.960 I was ruthlessly attacked for like months on end because all these jihadi Muslims, you know, Myron's Muslim.
01:01:45.020 And so they got mad at him for having me on because we're friends, right?
01:01:48.620 Myron and I are friends.
01:01:49.820 I get along with Myron and they got mad because, you know, I criticize Islam.
01:01:56.960 And so they tried to say that he was a bad Muslim because he didn't attack his friend, Laura Loomer and put her in her place because, oh, she's talking about Islam and Muslims.
01:02:06.980 Oh, Myron's another one free speech absolutist.
01:02:09.440 But yeah, I keep going.
01:02:10.140 Sorry.
01:02:10.520 And so he was like, to be fair, you know, one of the girls asked Laura about this and she was just answering the question.
01:02:15.480 It's not like I went on fresh and fit to talk about Muslims, you know?
01:02:18.180 Yeah.
01:02:18.560 And so I kid you not.
01:02:19.600 It was just like nonstop harassment, you know?
01:02:22.880 It was one of his better performing episodes, though.
01:02:25.740 I mean, they got a ton of views and people clicked it and it was super viral and it was all over the news.
01:02:30.660 But I enjoyed it.
01:02:31.840 It was it was fun.
01:02:32.720 Do you know, I've gotten in trouble, too, for because people sometimes when I interview somebody, I'm not here to debate it.
01:02:39.860 Do you know what?
01:02:40.200 Like I'm here to ask them about their opinion.
01:02:42.460 And they just everybody wants to debate.
01:02:44.300 And it's like if you're going to have a guest on your show, are they allowed to talk or like what's the point?
01:02:48.640 Why would anybody want to go on anyone's show?
01:02:50.420 All you're going to do is just bitch and moan about their opinions as opposed to letting them talk freely.
01:02:54.200 And and it's like if you wanted to schedule a debate, then we'll schedule it.
01:02:59.160 Do you know what I mean?
01:02:59.740 But it's like people just get so sensitive.
01:03:01.540 They're acting like I use the N word.
01:03:03.320 All I said was that Islam oppresses women and that set so many people off.
01:03:07.560 I mean, it literally went on for three months.
01:03:09.960 Yeah, I start to think I can see why with what we have going on.
01:03:20.300 I'm like, do you know what?
01:03:21.380 I can kind of see maybe they have a point.
01:03:24.600 About what?
01:03:26.660 No, like you said, Islam oppresses women.
01:03:29.260 And I said, I can see why with what we have going on with the whores in the West.
01:03:34.840 They're like, put on a burka bitch.
01:03:40.620 Like they're probably over there like, hell yeah, we do.
01:03:44.960 Because they can watch us on the shows and we have all these freaking like, you know, I mean, you know what it's like here.
01:03:50.840 I'm not saying they should.
01:03:51.820 I'm not I'm not trying to debate like that at all.
01:03:54.000 Somebody did a video like that a while back.
01:03:56.020 It was like, Islam's right about women changed my mind.
01:04:01.220 What?
01:04:01.760 Tell me about you just went to the White House and you got I don't want to.
01:04:06.420 Am I allowed?
01:04:07.320 Can I say you got 15 people fired or like?
01:04:11.300 I mean, look, President Trump decides who he's going to fire.
01:04:13.600 But yeah, I was at the White House and met with the president.
01:04:16.360 So what like what was in the binder?
01:04:20.880 Receipts.
01:04:22.360 Yeah.
01:04:22.760 So I'm going to explain this to all they might not know.
01:04:25.520 Laura Loomer.
01:04:27.200 Laura went to the White House and what I saw on Twitter was you had a big binder full of stuff.
01:04:32.980 You scheduled a meeting.
01:04:33.700 Well, they said it was a binder.
01:04:35.100 It was like several papers.
01:04:36.200 Yeah.
01:04:36.880 That you scheduled a meeting with the president and the next day 15 people were fired.
01:04:42.580 A bunch of people were fired.
01:04:43.660 Yeah.
01:04:45.340 That's hilarious.
01:04:46.800 So what was it?
01:04:47.840 Were they like talking shit about him?
01:04:49.860 Were they like some of them were Biden holdovers from the previous administration who just
01:04:53.700 shouldn't be in positions of intelligence like the NSA and the NSC.
01:04:57.920 And so, you know, these are intelligence agencies in our in our government.
01:05:02.460 And so very powerful positions that have been weaponized in the past during the first Trump
01:05:06.300 administration to spy on the president, to attack him, to weaponize our intel agencies,
01:05:11.020 to literally stage a coup against him.
01:05:12.880 And I don't know, some of his own staff for some reason don't give him this information
01:05:17.220 and they don't do proper vetting on a lot of these individuals who work with people who
01:05:22.800 hate Donald Trump, people who participated in these intelligence operations and lawfare
01:05:28.840 campaigns against President Trump.
01:05:30.260 And so I just tell him what he needs to know and I tell him important facts.
01:05:36.820 It's just factual information.
01:05:38.280 There's no spin to it at all.
01:05:39.800 It's just showing the president receipts and who people worked with, what their associations
01:05:44.320 are, what their previous statements were.
01:05:48.480 And clearly some people who work for him are trying to protect some of the bad actors who
01:05:53.480 are in his administration because there shouldn't be this much outrage over it.
01:05:57.240 If somebody is disloyal to the president, why would you want them in an intelligence role
01:06:01.180 where they could undermine the president?
01:06:03.560 So they're just pissed off because I tell the president occasionally, you know, when
01:06:08.640 he seeks out my advice and he's on video saying that he seeks out my advice, I just tell him
01:06:14.820 information that he should know.
01:06:16.600 I don't try to splice it or dice it or, you know, spin it in any capacity.
01:06:22.860 I just am a very straight shooter with President Trump and I tell him exactly what's going
01:06:28.120 on, who's doing what, who's saying what, and they show him the receipts and he makes up
01:06:32.460 his own mind.
01:06:33.120 And in this case, the receipts were so damning that, yeah, a lot of people got fired and
01:06:38.560 they deserve to be fired.
01:06:40.020 So why do you think that they're, like, why do you think that is?
01:06:44.100 Why wouldn't they want disloyal people?
01:06:46.100 Do you think it's because they're friends with them?
01:06:48.200 A lot of them are friends with them.
01:06:49.600 You know, there's this go along to get along culture in Washington, D.C., but I also don't
01:06:53.340 really think that everybody who works for President Trump cares about President Trump
01:06:56.720 the way I care about President Trump.
01:06:58.160 I think that a lot of these people are just there for the status.
01:07:02.300 You know, they're just there because, I mean, a lot, there are people who worked on his campaign.
01:07:06.420 Some of them were incredibly disloyal, you know?
01:07:09.720 Like who?
01:07:11.240 Like, what did they do?
01:07:13.040 I mean, some of the individuals are quoted making derogatory comments about the president.
01:07:17.440 Oh, okay.
01:07:19.180 So, like, talking.
01:07:19.820 In the past, yeah, talking shit, condemning him after J6.
01:07:24.400 So, and now a lot of these people that worked for his primary opponents, like Ron DeSantis
01:07:29.260 and Nikki Haley, are coming back and they're begging for roles in the administration.
01:07:34.320 It's like, you literally campaigned against the president.
01:07:37.600 Why do you want to work for him?
01:07:38.780 Right.
01:07:39.180 I don't know.
01:07:41.180 There's just no sense of loyalty.
01:07:42.800 I sometimes wonder why people get so outraged when I do the things that I do.
01:07:49.300 Like, is there just no sense of loyalty anymore?
01:07:52.100 Or do I have a distorted sense of what loyalty is supposed to look like?
01:07:55.380 And then I realize I'm not the problem.
01:07:57.320 They are.
01:07:59.180 You know?
01:07:59.820 It's like loyalty is a very black and white thing.
01:08:02.060 People like to make excuses for how they shape-shift their loyalties.
01:08:06.040 Have you noticed that?
01:08:06.680 Yeah, it's just, I don't, I don't really think it's even up for debate.
01:08:11.080 You're either loyal or you're not.
01:08:13.680 Yeah.
01:08:14.220 Whether it's romantic, like whether you're talking about like a romantic, you talk about
01:08:19.240 dating, like your show is mostly focused on dating and lifestyle stuff.
01:08:21.860 So whether you're disloyal to your romantic partner, you're disloyal to a boss, you're
01:08:26.980 disloyal to a friend, you're disloyal to your child.
01:08:34.020 It's very black and white.
01:08:35.340 I just, in Washington, D.C., people seem to have like gray areas about what it means
01:08:40.540 to be loyal.
01:08:41.300 And I just don't agree.
01:08:43.080 And I think President Trump's the same way.
01:08:45.320 He's on video talking about how loyalty is very important to him.
01:08:48.000 And one of the most horrific things somebody could be is disloyal.
01:08:51.280 And I feel the same way.
01:08:52.580 And I think it's important that we protect Donald Trump from traitors and disloyal people in
01:08:58.200 his administration who want to undermine him the same way people in his administration
01:09:02.660 undermined him and targeted him the first time he was in office.
01:09:05.300 So what is Donald Trump like?
01:09:08.020 That's so cool that you've actually met him.
01:09:09.860 He's so cool.
01:09:11.860 So yeah, he's awesome.
01:09:14.800 I mean, he's a great person.
01:09:17.320 Is he the same in person?
01:09:19.380 Yeah.
01:09:19.920 But he's also just a normal person, right?
01:09:22.480 Like people don't really get to see just how generous and kind he is.
01:09:26.020 He's a very thoughtful person.
01:09:27.620 He's very funny.
01:09:28.460 He's a loving husband to his wife, a loving grandfather.
01:09:33.020 He loves his grandkids.
01:09:34.520 He's always bragging about his grandkids.
01:09:36.600 He really is just like your typical everyday person.
01:09:40.960 He's just the president of the United States.
01:09:42.660 They call him a blue-collar billionaire.
01:09:44.340 But I wish people got to see the side of him, right?
01:09:46.820 I mean, I've been with President Trump at his golf club before where he has his grandkids
01:09:50.380 sitting on his lap and just talking about, bragging about his grandkids, how, oh, they're
01:09:54.480 a star student or they're a star athlete.
01:09:56.920 He's a doting grandfather.
01:09:58.460 All these other things that you would think of people who are typically in their late
01:10:01.940 70s, right?
01:10:03.280 And they make him out to be a monster.
01:10:04.800 He's really kind, down to earth.
01:10:06.880 You would think that it would be very intimidating to be in front of the president of the United
01:10:10.300 States.
01:10:10.780 But he's always cracking jokes like on the plane, he's showing you his playlist.
01:10:15.620 He shared his McDonald's with me a couple times on the airplane.
01:10:19.340 Just a really nice guy.
01:10:20.920 And he raised really good kids.
01:10:22.740 It's crazy, actually.
01:10:24.060 I don't think.
01:10:24.900 I know.
01:10:26.260 It's crazy how good he is.
01:10:27.700 It's like three marriages.
01:10:30.160 And I'm, right?
01:10:31.380 Three different women, I think.
01:10:33.120 Yeah, he's been married several times.
01:10:34.720 So I think it's actually more like it shows the character in him because he was able to
01:10:40.160 manage three women.
01:10:41.620 That's like impossible to raise good kids.
01:10:44.360 You know?
01:10:45.440 That's like...
01:10:46.320 Well, and also, his ex-wives love him.
01:10:47.680 All of his ex-wives loved him.
01:10:48.380 I know, that's crazy.
01:10:49.760 I mean, his first wife passed away not too long ago.
01:10:53.240 She had an accident in her home.
01:10:56.520 I believe fell down the stairs.
01:10:58.760 And that's the mother of Eric, Don, and Ivanka, Ivana.
01:11:03.520 And then Tiffany's mother, Marla, campaigned for Donald Trump.
01:11:11.540 I know, that's...
01:11:12.520 Ivana campaigned for Trump, too.
01:11:14.620 She spoke very highly before, you know, she passed away.
01:11:17.580 And Melania.
01:11:18.200 I know, it almost speaks more to his character because that's...
01:11:22.840 I mean, I do divorce documentaries.
01:11:24.520 That's an impossible task.
01:11:25.960 Yeah, I mean, all of his...
01:11:27.140 Two ex-wives to speak highly of you.
01:11:28.920 All of his ex-wives love him and speak highly of him.
01:11:31.920 And he has relationships with all of his children.
01:11:35.580 I mean, a lot of really rich men, billionaires, don't have relationships with their kids.
01:11:39.620 Look at Elon Musk.
01:11:40.460 Yeah.
01:11:41.080 Look at how some of his kids...
01:11:43.040 I mean, he has a kid that's a...
01:11:44.240 That's out there talking...
01:11:45.880 Oh, my God, yeah.
01:11:46.660 Oh, sorry.
01:11:47.120 Are you allowed to say...
01:11:48.120 They'll bleep it.
01:11:49.300 It's fine.
01:11:50.180 They'll bleep it.
01:11:51.540 I'm out here about to get you demonetized.
01:11:53.900 This is why we pre-record.
01:11:55.680 There's rich people out there.
01:11:57.060 Some of the Islam stuff might have to be on the website only.
01:12:01.300 But yeah.
01:12:02.400 There's a lot of rich people out there who have kids that rebel or kids that are spoiled.
01:12:05.960 And then they try to be oppositional to their parents.
01:12:10.000 And so it's very rare that you see a billionaire, you know, successful socialite, entrepreneur, businessman, now president of the United States have kids that are all functional.
01:12:22.680 I mean, a lot of rich people have very dysfunctional kids.
01:12:25.180 And all of his kids are very educated, all great kids.
01:12:30.520 All married kids.
01:12:31.860 And I think that's a testament, too, to his character because you see a lot of politicians who want to run the White House or, you know, they want to be in office and their households are crazy.
01:12:40.660 They have dysfunctional kids.
01:12:42.040 Like Obama.
01:12:42.640 You know, fucked up marriages, the Obama daughters or the Bush's.
01:12:45.820 Bush's daughters were a bunch of whores.
01:12:47.700 I mean, I don't know if you ever saw the stories about his daughters going and partying and, like, having these wild goose chases with Secret Service agents, having to chase them to the club.
01:12:55.700 No, I didn't know that.
01:12:56.780 Like, allegedly having sex on the roof of the White House.
01:12:59.600 Go look it up.
01:13:00.160 The Bush's?
01:13:01.120 The daughters, yeah.
01:13:02.440 You can go look it up.
01:13:02.780 No way.
01:13:04.040 Yeah, they were notorious party animals.
01:13:05.740 And so, you know, you never hear these stories about Trump's kids.
01:13:09.020 And so when you look at a lot of these other politicians, look at the Clintons, for example, all of them have broken homes, dysfunctional homes.
01:13:16.300 And it's a testament that Donald Trump was able to have, you know, such strong and successful kids because if he was able to keep his house together.
01:13:26.600 Yeah, like, I think the Obama.
01:13:28.040 He's able to put the country together.
01:13:29.240 Yeah.
01:13:29.400 The Obama girls are dysfunctional.
01:13:31.100 I mean, there's photos of them out there allegedly, you know, smoking joints, apparently, and partying and walking around.
01:13:39.340 I'll bet money.
01:13:40.080 They'll be single mothers.
01:13:41.280 Bet money.
01:13:42.200 I would bet money.
01:13:42.820 Walking around with these ghetto dudes wearing crop tops.
01:13:45.940 And I don't know.
01:13:46.900 It's just if you're the daughter of a president and your family has millions of dollars.
01:13:52.120 For what?
01:13:53.100 Yeah.
01:13:53.180 It's like, what are you doing?
01:13:54.620 What are you doing hanging out with Jamal?
01:13:56.360 What?
01:13:57.160 Did you really sue Bill Maher?
01:14:02.600 Yeah, I'm currently suing him.
01:14:04.700 How's it going?
01:14:05.640 Are you going to win?
01:14:07.580 I hope so.
01:14:08.620 I mean, we just had a deposition on April 4th, so I was in a deposition with him in Beverly Hills.
01:14:14.080 He was sitting right across from me.
01:14:15.220 I'm not allowed to talk about the deposition, but I'm suing him for defamation because he falsely accused me of having sex with Donald Trump.
01:14:23.780 Okay.
01:14:25.020 Sorry, that's so funny.
01:14:30.200 I hope you win.
01:14:31.280 That would be so funny.
01:14:32.860 Was he surprised?
01:14:34.420 He accused me of having sex with Trump because Trump invited me as his guest to the presidential debate.
01:14:39.320 And I was able to fly with Trump to the debate.
01:14:41.440 Whoa, that's so cool.
01:14:43.560 Yeah.
01:14:43.980 That's so cool.
01:14:44.900 But it's not cool that he's trying to Monica Lewinsky me and falsely accuse me of having sex with the president.
01:14:49.220 It's just really unprofessional.
01:14:51.220 And you see me.
01:14:52.120 I always dress like this.
01:14:55.600 I'm a pantsuit woman, too.
01:14:57.660 So some women don't like pantsuits.
01:15:00.340 I like pantsuits.
01:15:01.340 I'm always wearing a suit.
01:15:02.560 I love pantsuits.
01:15:03.600 I love being conservative.
01:15:04.880 I love being covered up.
01:15:07.100 I don't even like posting photos of myself in bathing suits because I don't want people using them against me.
01:15:13.120 You know, so I'm like always trying to cover up.
01:15:15.980 I'm always, you know, covering my boobs.
01:15:18.580 I don't wear.
01:15:20.840 In my opinion, I don't wear provocative outfits.
01:15:23.040 I wear very conservative clothing.
01:15:25.100 And so for Bill Maher to falsely accuse me of trying to sexualize myself to sleep with the president of the United States, it's just damaging.
01:15:33.440 It's damaging to your career.
01:15:34.540 There's literally articles now in Daily Mail and People Magazine where they are saying, Laura Loomer denies sleeping with Donald Trump.
01:15:41.260 It's like, why is that even a story, you know?
01:15:44.840 Of course I didn't sleep with Donald Trump.
01:15:46.920 It's just, I was on an airplane.
01:15:49.020 I went to a debate.
01:15:50.140 Yeah.
01:15:51.240 No, that's always what they're going to throw at you.
01:15:54.300 Like, you know what I mean?
01:15:55.520 Because it's anything.
01:15:55.940 It would be one thing, though, if I was like a bimbo type and I was, you know, going around and looking like a skank and acting like a skank, right?
01:16:02.420 And I was like some bombshell Playboy bunny.
01:16:05.140 And, oh, wow, look at this woman who's, you know, hanging around the White House.
01:16:09.140 Right?
01:16:10.260 Like, maybe, right?
01:16:11.580 I mean, if I was like a hypersexual person, if I was like a porn star, you know, there's just like no basis for it.
01:16:18.960 Like, where does he even get that?
01:16:20.160 Where does Bill Maher even get that?
01:16:21.400 Like, oh, yeah, you know, Laura Loomer is sleeping with the president.
01:16:25.460 Like, where does that even come from?
01:16:28.720 How do you see a video of a bunch of staffers and a bunch of people walking off of President Trump's plane and then say, oh, she must be sleeping with him?
01:16:39.140 Is every single woman who works for President Trump sleeping with him?
01:16:44.940 So how much are you suing him for?
01:16:47.920 $150 million.
01:16:49.520 Oh, wow.
01:16:50.640 I hope you win.
01:16:51.520 I hope you get it.
01:16:53.360 Yeah.
01:16:54.060 He needs to learn a lesson, in my opinion.
01:16:56.900 He needs to be held accountable.
01:16:58.380 You can't just go around saying things like that about people.
01:17:00.240 Well, I think I went through pretty much everything.
01:17:06.960 You have had quite the career, Laura.
01:17:09.860 What's your favorite story that you broke?
01:17:13.360 Like, what's the one you're most proud of?
01:17:14.200 I've broken a lot of stories.
01:17:15.660 I recently broke a big story about Hunter Biden in South Africa.
01:17:20.220 Got a Secret Service revoked.
01:17:21.580 That was nice.
01:17:22.140 Like him going after he told the court that he was dead broke, tracked him down in South Africa and was able to report that even after Joe Biden left office, he had 18 Secret Service agents with him in South Africa on vacation.
01:17:35.860 So then that was given to President Trump, and President Trump revoked his Secret Service clearance.
01:17:40.760 So that was pretty cool.
01:17:42.700 I mean, I really am proud of the stories I broke during the presidential election season regarding Judge Marchand and, you know, the lawfare against President Trump that was utilized by President Trump's legal team.
01:17:55.620 And now I've launched my own company because, you know, the research is so effective that I figured I'm going to offer this service to people that want to pay for it.
01:18:03.960 So I'm doing executive level, executive level vetting, opposition research, consulting.
01:18:11.640 You would find this interesting.
01:18:13.020 We're doing something called matrimonial due diligence, where we're offering services to vet the prospective sexual partners of people on a confidential basis.
01:18:21.740 So if you're a rich individual or just, you know, any individual, really.
01:18:26.520 It's cheaper to do it before.
01:18:27.840 It's cheaper.
01:18:28.440 It doesn't matter.
01:18:29.220 It doesn't matter how much money you have.
01:18:30.320 It's cheaper to vet.
01:18:31.260 If you are a successful individual and you're worried that somebody is trying to honey trap you or use you for your money, or you want to make sure that you're not marrying or dating or what do they call it?
01:18:44.500 Sticking your dick in crazy, right?
01:18:46.180 You want to make sure that you're not sticking your dick in crazy, right?
01:18:50.460 We say at Loomerate Strategies that we do the legwork for you before you spread yours.
01:18:56.700 So at Loomerate Strategies, you can hire us.
01:19:00.400 You can hire us to vet your sexual partners for you.
01:19:03.360 And there's no one better than you.
01:19:05.220 Like, there's nobody better at breaking school.
01:19:06.400 I mean, look at all the information that I uncovered about Ashley St. Clair, or Cashly, as I like to call her.
01:19:12.800 I mean, just on my own accord.
01:19:13.880 Yeah, Elon Musk needs to hire you.
01:19:18.240 If you're watching, Elon.
01:19:20.460 Yeah, he should hire you to vet his baby mama.
01:19:23.340 If you're watching, Elon.
01:19:25.080 I have a service.
01:19:26.660 I am available to vet your baby mama, Elon.
01:19:29.100 Oh my gosh, did you hear that?
01:19:30.980 Were you the one that broke the, what was her name, the Asian chick?
01:19:35.120 That he allegedly offered the...
01:19:38.300 No, I didn't break that, but that was so known.
01:19:40.280 I knew people that said that they were going to parties and that she was there and she was openly talking about it.
01:19:45.700 Apparently, Tiffany Wong.
01:19:47.120 But I don't know.
01:19:47.680 There's so many women these days.
01:19:49.240 They say things.
01:19:50.200 You don't know if someone's joking or not.
01:19:51.980 And who knows, right?
01:19:53.060 Maybe it was a joke.
01:19:54.580 I don't know what her conversation was like with Elon.
01:19:56.880 And I'm not here to defend Elon either.
01:19:58.800 But I'm just saying that there's a lot of men out there who have a lot of money.
01:20:01.880 Look at Shannon Sharp right now.
01:20:04.900 I knew.
01:20:06.180 There's a lot of men out there who have a lot of money.
01:20:08.760 And for some reason, they want to have sex with like kind of mid-women, in my opinion,
01:20:16.100 who don't really have much to offer aside from, you know, being semi-attractive, whatever, being down to fuck.
01:20:24.180 I don't know.
01:20:24.880 But I don't really understand what somebody like an Ashley St. Clair had to offer Elon Musk.
01:20:30.980 But now, right, unfortunately, he has a baby with her for the rest of his life.
01:20:34.280 And she's trying to, you know, portray him as some evil person when he offered her $15 million up front
01:20:41.620 and was paying for her to live in a $40,000 a month condo with a private chef and private security.
01:20:47.660 Hilary Crowder did the same thing when she was getting $30,000 a month while claiming Crowder was an abuser.
01:20:53.240 Yeah, and then she's out here selling her Tesla, acting like, oh, I'm so broke.
01:20:59.220 Elon cut my child support.
01:21:00.580 It's like he literally offered you $15 million up front plus $100,000 a month.
01:21:06.620 So what is that, $1.2 million a year just for like taking care of a baby?
01:21:11.880 It doesn't even cost that much.
01:21:13.280 So think about that.
01:21:14.280 She was going to get $15 million up front.
01:21:16.100 All she had to do is be quiet plus $1.2 million a year in child support.
01:21:20.260 She could have got a really great financial advisor.
01:21:22.220 I'm sure Elon would have hooked her up with his money manager, you know, made some investments
01:21:25.980 and even quadrupled that money.
01:21:29.000 It's all she had to do.
01:21:30.360 It's all she had to do.
01:21:31.340 She wanted to be an e-celebrity.
01:21:33.320 But she wanted to, no, she thought that Elon was going to marry her.
01:21:38.420 I don't know why she would think that.
01:21:39.180 That's why she did it on Valentine's Day.
01:21:40.780 Think about it.
01:21:41.820 She just got, she went crazy because Elon didn't text her back.
01:21:45.640 I know he was hanging.
01:21:47.000 Do you know what?
01:21:47.520 The latest court filing showed that his lawyer had to even file a restraining order.
01:21:51.100 Well, he was saying he was hanging out with his favorite one.
01:21:54.400 I think Siobhan.
01:21:55.520 Yeah.
01:21:55.880 I think he took her to.
01:21:57.340 She's normal.
01:21:58.000 Like she's not out there clout chasing and she's quiet and she's, she's not out there
01:22:03.060 posting all this drama, like all of these other girls.
01:22:05.420 Like you have, you have Ashley and then there's this other lady Grimes, who I guess is the
01:22:10.020 mother of X, the baby that's always with him.
01:22:13.820 And look, I'm not here to talk shit, but it just seems like if you're the richest man
01:22:18.900 in the world, you don't want to see stories out there like Grimes suing you, right?
01:22:23.080 Going around saying that she doesn't want you bringing your, your kid around, uh, President
01:22:28.040 Trump.
01:22:28.540 You don't want Ashley out there accusing you of being a deadbeat dad and saying that
01:22:32.900 you're not paying child support.
01:22:34.000 When, look, Elon should probably use a condom, right?
01:22:38.840 I think we can agree on that.
01:22:39.980 He should probably exercise better caution when it comes to women.
01:22:43.200 He should hire you.
01:22:43.820 He should hire you.
01:22:45.220 But I think that regardless of what people think about Elon Musk, and I've had my own
01:22:49.400 disagreements with him, he clearly cares about his children.
01:22:52.760 He clearly loves his children.
01:22:54.200 And for all his, you know, eccentric behavior and, you know, personality clashes with individuals
01:23:04.280 online and, you know, the disagreements that people may have, and I've had disagreements
01:23:08.880 with him.
01:23:09.760 I think it's undeniable that he is a good father.
01:23:13.940 I mean, maybe he doesn't get to see his kids all the time, but I don't think that any of
01:23:17.640 his kids are going without anything.
01:23:19.120 He seems like the kind of dad that would give his kid anything without caring about the
01:23:25.200 price tag.
01:23:25.980 So if there's one thing that I'm not going to believe about Elon Musk, it's all these
01:23:30.280 women saying, oh, he's not giving me child support.
01:23:34.900 Yeah, no, I totally agree.
01:23:37.040 He should definitely hire you.
01:23:38.700 You would be hilarious.
01:23:40.340 If you want to, if you want to be Elon Musk's next baby mama.
01:23:42.580 A lot of men, a lot of men need this vetting.
01:23:44.460 I mean, look at how many scandals there are every single year.
01:23:46.360 It doesn't matter if you're the richest man in the world, like Elon, or you're somebody
01:23:49.040 like Shannon Sharp.
01:23:50.160 Look at how many men are basically getting bamboozled by these women.
01:23:53.640 And the crazy thing about it is this information was open source.
01:23:57.040 All this information about Ashley plotting for years.
01:24:00.380 Like she literally plotted for almost half a decade to get knocked up by him and plotted.
01:24:05.860 She was even asking my friend Isabella before, right, this all happened.
01:24:11.180 Oh, he followed me.
01:24:12.620 Now I need to be funny.
01:24:13.800 Can you teach me how to be funny so I can seduce him?
01:24:17.820 Like if men were to, if men were to see these things, right, they would understand that women
01:24:22.460 are just trying to prey upon them.
01:24:25.700 And so, I don't know.
01:24:29.580 I, look, I've had disagreements with Elon on other issues, political issues.
01:24:34.780 That's no surprise.
01:24:35.860 He demonetized me for a while in December when I got into it with him over H-1B visas.
01:24:40.500 But as it relates to this whole fight between Elon and Ashley St. Clair, I'm a hundred percent
01:24:45.120 team Elon, a hundred percent.
01:24:47.960 I think he should even try to get full custody of the kid.
01:24:51.080 I agree.
01:24:52.200 I think she's fucking crazy.
01:24:53.440 How much, how much would you charge for a guy to-
01:24:55.420 I mean, I'm not here to clinically diagnose anybody, but she behaves in a very erratic
01:24:59.240 manner in my opinion.
01:25:00.440 So how much would you charge for a guy if he wanted to do like a basic vetting service?
01:25:05.640 What's it going to cost?
01:25:06.540 It really honestly depends on what they want to know, right, because it's a case-by-case
01:25:11.820 basis.
01:25:12.520 Do you have like a, I'm just, they're going to be wondering what's the range.
01:25:15.520 Like can an average guy afford it or no?
01:25:18.460 Yeah.
01:25:18.920 Yeah.
01:25:19.520 I would say so.
01:25:20.080 I mean, it depends on what your definition of average is.
01:25:22.580 Like 10K?
01:25:23.900 Could they get a 10K, 5K?
01:25:25.820 The retainers, my retainers at Lumer and Strategies start at $15,000 a month.
01:25:31.080 So it increases, obviously, depending on how complex the case is, but just any general
01:25:38.560 retainer baseline starts at $15,000 per month.
01:25:42.540 Oh, I don't think a normal guy's going to be able to afford that 15K a month.
01:25:46.520 Well, it's executive-
01:25:47.540 I mean, it's cheaper than a divorce.
01:25:48.700 But it's executive level vetting, right?
01:25:50.320 I mean, it's not vetting for everyone.
01:25:51.640 It's executive level-
01:25:53.140 No, I know.
01:25:53.260 I understand.
01:25:54.120 It's executive level vetting, but what would you rather do?
01:25:56.600 Invest $15,000 to get an intelligence dossier, and we may be able to figure everything out
01:26:03.180 in one month.
01:26:03.740 Or do you want to go get married and have half of your fortune given to someone?
01:26:07.240 No, I totally agree with you.
01:26:09.480 I'm not saying it should.
01:26:10.580 I was just wondering if like the average Joe could afford it.
01:26:13.720 I don't think so.
01:26:14.820 15.
01:26:15.740 It depends what they've saved.
01:26:16.440 It's executive level vetting.
01:26:17.720 Yeah.
01:26:18.380 Okay.
01:26:19.200 Yeah.
01:26:19.700 I was just curious.
01:26:20.400 It's executive level vetting and opposition research and intelligence-grade information.
01:26:25.680 I mean, they're terrorists, some of these women.
01:26:27.760 So you got to treat them as such.
01:26:30.860 But it takes a lot of time, and it's a valuable service.
01:26:36.640 No, it completely is, guys.
01:26:38.840 I mean, she'll find-
01:26:40.180 But it starts at $15,000 per month, and then prices increase from there.
01:26:44.680 I have all types of clients.
01:26:47.640 I work with politicians.
01:26:51.200 I work with executives of corporations.
01:26:55.760 I work with media personalities.
01:26:59.180 All types of people.
01:27:01.720 Yeah.
01:27:02.120 For all different types of cases.
01:27:04.980 But I do think that matrimonial due diligence is something that a lot of these men should engage in.
01:27:10.660 Oh, completely.
01:27:11.040 I mean, if I had that much money, I wouldn't be engaging with anyone without having somebody research and investigate the individual.
01:27:16.820 And she'll find it, guys.
01:27:18.400 I promise to God.
01:27:19.600 Laura leaves no stone unturned.
01:27:22.420 She will find it.
01:27:26.040 So do you have any final thoughts?
01:27:28.180 Anything you want to say to the viewers out there?
01:27:32.780 Well, I really enjoyed coming on your program.
01:27:34.900 Yeah, thanks for coming, Laura.
01:27:37.020 I mean, really, what you do, it's so necessary.
01:27:42.620 There's a lot of people that don't have the balls to call out these politicians and really say what they think at the cost of millions of dollars like you have.
01:27:54.160 And I know personally how difficult it is when you get kicked off of shit.
01:27:59.220 I mean, I've probably spent over a million dollars just on legal fees.
01:28:02.340 And that's not even including the millions of dollars of professional opportunities that I've lost, plus all the wasted money.
01:28:08.100 I mean, I raised almost $2 million or $2.5 million in the program for Congress.
01:28:12.500 So look at all that money raised.
01:28:14.000 I mean, when you're canceled and when you're, you know, deprived opportunities because of lies like this ridiculous Wikipedia page, it costs you millions of dollars.
01:28:23.320 So it's really, you know, money comes and goes.
01:28:27.300 I think what bothers me the most about it is the stolen potential.
01:28:31.120 Because you could be a millionaire one day and then have a bad investment and be totally broke.
01:28:36.540 Like you could lose all your money.
01:28:39.880 You could become a millionaire overnight by winning the Power Bowl, whatever.
01:28:44.000 But you could get divorced and have some crazy person take half your money.
01:28:49.400 You could get cancer and spend your money on treatment.
01:28:54.260 Money comes and goes.
01:28:55.240 You don't get to take your money with you when you die.
01:28:56.960 But what you do get to take with you when you die is your legacy.
01:29:00.560 Yeah.
01:29:01.020 And I feel like a lot of the censorship and a lot of the attacks on me over the last few years have deprived me of about 10 years of my potential.
01:29:11.380 Like if I were to have made a lot more money, would I be married right now?
01:29:16.180 Would I have children?
01:29:17.520 Would I have not had to work as hard per se because I would have more money and I could have spent more time relaxing and like going on dates and maybe I'd be married right now.
01:29:27.420 Like maybe I would have kids, right?
01:29:28.820 Maybe, you know, maybe I would be retired because I would have had a successful media company that made me millions of dollars and then I sold it and, you know, got bought out.
01:29:39.720 You never know.
01:29:40.480 Like you honestly just never know.
01:29:41.880 When you look at all these other people who write books and they have bestsellers and, you know, they make millions off their books.
01:29:47.580 It's the stolen potential of cancel culture that torments you because you're constantly, you're constantly thinking about the what ifs.
01:29:56.400 Yeah.
01:29:56.880 Right.
01:29:57.180 And it's not even about the money, although money does play a role into it.
01:30:02.100 It just makes you wonder like how much more you could have accomplished.
01:30:05.040 Yes, I've accomplished a lot despite the odds and I've been able to, you know, persevere despite the adversity and the censorship.
01:30:11.140 But I always wonder like what would my life be like if this hadn't been the case, right?
01:30:15.980 Like if I had never been banned online, where would I be today?
01:30:19.020 Well, the world does need people like you.
01:30:21.280 So I'm very glad that you came out and it's a pleasure to have you on.
01:30:25.460 Where can they find you?
01:30:27.180 YouTube soon.
01:30:28.300 We're going to get your channel back up.
01:30:30.420 Yeah, you're going to get me back on YouTube.
01:30:33.000 Well, you can follow me on X at Laura Loomer or at Loomer Unleashed.
01:30:37.580 I have a show on Rumble every Tuesday and Thursday called Loomer Unleashed.
01:30:41.540 It's at 9 p.m. Eastern.
01:30:42.680 It's live on Rumble.
01:30:43.940 So you can follow me on X at Laura Loomer and Loomer Unleashed.
01:30:47.060 You can follow me on True Social, Getter and Gab at Laura Loomer.
01:30:50.500 And then on Rumble, rumble.com slash Laura Loomer.
01:30:53.960 Great.
01:30:54.600 That's pretty much it.
01:30:55.260 So I'm online.
01:30:56.920 I post a lot of reports.
01:30:58.580 I have a website, Loomered.com.
01:31:00.640 If people want to support my work, they can donate there.
01:31:03.860 They can subscribe to my account on X.
01:31:05.800 Subscribe to me on Rumble.
01:31:08.240 But just, you know, I operate as an independent reporter.
01:31:12.460 So that's where you follow me.
01:31:15.780 Great.
01:31:16.380 Yeah, guys, I'm telling you.
01:31:18.840 Check out Loomer Strategies.
01:31:19.980 I know this isn't a political show.
01:31:22.100 But hey, I think that a lot of people need matrimonial due diligence.
01:31:25.880 They do.
01:31:26.940 They do.
01:31:27.360 I mean, if you think that your partner's cheating on you.
01:31:29.660 Right.
01:31:30.120 I think there's a lot of things that could come of this service for a lot of people.
01:31:34.080 And it may sound like a lot of money, but honestly, if you were paying somebody an hourly rate to do investigations for you, it would come out to you.
01:31:42.420 Yeah, because you could get it done in like a month, so they could budget 15.
01:31:46.140 Yeah, it just really depends on maybe people want a rolling retainer.
01:31:49.860 I mean, like I said, for some of these executives or people who are, you know, entertainers, and maybe they have a very active sex life and they're going through women on a regular basis.
01:31:58.140 Like maybe you want someone on a retainer on a monthly basis.
01:32:01.300 Shannon Sharpe should have called you.
01:32:03.700 If you want to have sex with OnlyFans, I always call Laura.
01:32:08.200 She'll bet them.
01:32:09.620 Maybe I should get an, not my own OnlyFans.
01:32:12.840 Like I would never create an OnlyFans.
01:32:14.720 But maybe I should create an account just for research purposes.
01:32:17.780 Well, I have, I had a different PI on my show, and he said that there's women that like you see date all like the famous men.
01:32:26.540 And you wonder why, like why would these guys all date the same woman?
01:32:30.540 Like guys don't want past around women, yada, yada.
01:32:33.140 It's because these women are vetted, and they know they're not crazy, and they know they don't talk, and there's not a lot of women like that.
01:32:39.040 And so basically the benefit to the women.
01:32:41.500 Well, their services, like it's legalized, it's basically like legalized prostitution.
01:32:46.220 It's their escort services where these men will basically just rent companions, and they're escorts, right?
01:32:51.720 So they're high on women.
01:32:52.900 No, they're not.
01:32:53.700 But a lot of these women that don't talk, that will go to the events with you, and that will be with you, and they'll be your iron candy, they really are escorts.
01:33:01.120 And they, you know, their services.
01:33:02.720 When I lived in Palm Beach, I knew people who operated, they called themselves matchmakers, but they were really escort agencies.
01:33:11.060 And they would just select, they showed me how it worked one time, they would find people, like the women don't have to pay for the profiles, because the women obviously are like who everyone's seeking.
01:33:21.360 And these people, these men, these like very wealthy men would just tell this matchmaker what they were looking for, and you would have all these women, and they would tell them to submit like provocative photos and everything.
01:33:31.900 And they would create profiles, and then they would set these men up with women that they think, you know, could be fits for them.
01:33:39.900 But it was all geared towards attractive young women who wanted to have rich men.
01:33:45.400 Right.
01:33:45.900 But that's basically like an escort service, right?
01:33:48.040 That's not even really matchmaking.
01:33:49.860 I would say that that is just glorified escort work.
01:33:53.120 Well, did the guys have to pay to go on a date with them?
01:33:55.520 Yeah.
01:33:56.300 Oh, so the men?
01:33:57.440 They had to pay the agency.
01:33:58.940 It's almost like a madam.
01:34:01.960 Are the women getting paid?
01:34:05.020 I mean, after the fact.
01:34:07.540 Yeah, I guess.
01:34:09.120 I mean, if you're on a date with a guy, and like, you know, it's, oh, this guy likes you, he thinks you're hot, go out with him, this is what he does.
01:34:16.440 And then in the profiles, it would say how much money they make, what they're looking for.
01:34:20.160 Wow.
01:34:20.620 I mean, it was very obvious.
01:34:21.700 So, I would say that that's just glorified escort, escort services, but.
01:34:29.520 It sounds more like, it sounds more like gold digging services.
01:34:32.960 Yeah, but that's the, but a lot of men are okay with that these days.
01:34:35.900 And they're actually hiring these matchmakers to set them up with arm pieces or eye candy.
01:34:42.100 And the reality is, is that unless you have a prenup, or unless you like actually trust this person, or unless you have something in writing, right?
01:34:50.700 And from my understanding, like there wasn't anything in writing or anything legally demanding Ashley St. Clair to keep her mouth shut.
01:34:57.920 You know, this OnlyFans thought, who, who is now accusing Shannon Sharp of threatening to choke her, then, you know, you're going to get, you're going to get screwed over.
01:35:07.260 And most people are not signing NDAs and legal contracts with these one night stands or, you know, these side piece girls that they're having affairs with.
01:35:15.840 And so, what if there was a service for men to, you know, reach out, matrimonial due diligence, loomer strategies, a service we offer, and you can submit the name of your sexual partner and have a full throttled vet done on this individual so that you know what you're getting yourself into.
01:35:36.060 Correct.
01:35:37.140 Yeah, I think it sounds like a great service.
01:35:39.340 Whether you want to get married, bang some hoes, whatever you want to do, you'll help them, right?
01:35:46.480 Yeah.
01:35:46.960 Well, nothing like illegal, obviously, but yeah.
01:35:49.080 Nothing illegal.
01:35:49.820 Yeah.
01:35:50.440 But you'd help a guy if you just wanted to bang hoes, right?
01:35:54.180 I mean, it's not, it's not, it's none of our, it's none of our business what you're doing with these women.
01:35:58.260 We are not engaged in any illegal activity, obviously, but if you, we assume that if you want matrimonial due diligence, obviously, you know, you're going to be sexually involved with this individual at some point or another.
01:36:10.300 And so it is called matrimonial due diligence, which gives the assumption, of course, that the individual paying for the service is sexually involved with the individual or has a desire to be sexually involved with the individual who they-
01:36:22.780 You have consent forms?
01:36:24.060 Are looking to, there's not a disclosure agreement.
01:36:27.120 Should do consent forms.
01:36:28.400 Like I consent to this, that, I don't know if you have it already, but these days it's like the BDSM stuff, I wouldn't, if I was, if I was a guy and a girl asked to do that, I would need something in writing.
01:36:41.600 A girl asked what?
01:36:42.460 Like, that's what happened with Shannon Sharp is she was into the BDSM stuff.
01:36:46.960 And so that's very dangerous.
01:36:48.560 Yeah, but we're not, we're not doing, we're not doing anything illegal.
01:36:51.140 We're simply providing people with research about the individual that they want to potentially marry or date.
01:36:57.860 I'm saying it's probably going to get to the point where these men need consent forms so they can't be accused.
01:37:02.080 Oh, I'm surprised that women aren't already doing that because, especially if you're rich, I'm surprised that these men aren't making women consent to wearing body cameras.
01:37:10.080 I know that sounds crazy.
01:37:11.880 I'm not suggesting people to start illegally recording people who they sleep with.
01:37:15.400 However, at the same time, I mean, if you're a rich man, you have to be so careful.
01:37:19.620 There's women taking condoms out of trash cans and trying to get themselves pregnant.
01:37:25.120 And so Loomer Strategies focuses more on, you know, political and corporate clients.
01:37:29.760 But, you know, this is, I think that, you know, I've been able to uncover a lot of damaging information about some of these women online.
01:37:39.000 And men, too.
01:37:41.000 And in my time in college, too, I remember some people would come to me and ask me to help them figure out whether their partners were cheating on them.
01:37:47.760 And I was kind of like the go-to person that people would go to.
01:37:50.640 Why not monetize it?
01:37:52.140 Correct.
01:37:52.680 You could just monetize it.
01:37:53.560 It's a service.
01:37:54.240 If I can get paid for showing somebody whether their partner's cheating on them or helping somebody identify whether somebody that they want to date or marry is lying to them or is bad news.
01:38:04.780 And I can make money, like, serious bank doing this.
01:38:09.620 Do it.
01:38:10.260 I'm doing it.
01:38:10.940 Correct.
01:38:11.680 Well, thanks so much for coming on, Laura.
01:38:13.980 Everyone go follow her on Twitter, Rumble.
01:38:17.280 If you want her service, check it out there.
01:38:19.840 Thank you again for coming in.
01:38:22.240 Absolutely.
01:38:22.860 Thanks for having me on.
01:38:24.440 And hopefully some of your viewers, I know that you have a lot of men that watch your show, your podcast.
01:38:31.560 Reach out to me.
01:38:32.540 My DMs are open.
01:38:34.000 Like I said, I do the legwork for you before you spread yours.
01:38:38.020 All right, guys.
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01:38:42.440 Bye-bye.