Pearl - September 11, 2025


Charlie Kirk Shooter Image Released: Live Updates


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In this episode of Pearl Daily, we discuss the tragic death of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk and the impact it has had on conservative media and the country at large. We also talk about the dangers of being a conservative media personality and how we have to live in fear of being shot like Charlie.

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00:00:01.000 What up, guys? Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily. Today we're talking about
00:00:07.600 the Charlie Kirk updates. I mean, this has just been such a weird day. I feel like all
00:00:15.740 of conservative media is just in shock. And the thing about Charlie Kirk is I think there's
00:00:26.400 people that you meet or you see working and you can just tell that they were like born to do
00:00:35.000 something. Like when I watched Charlie Kirk debate or I watched him do like politics a couple of
00:00:43.200 years ago, I went to one of his events and they were trying to target my dad as a donor. So I spent
00:00:48.460 not as much time with him, but a good amount of time with like his right hand man. I think his
00:00:54.320 name's like Ryan. This is like five years ago. And I don't know how to describe it, but sometimes
00:01:06.500 you see somebody doing something and you just know they're born to do it. I always felt that
00:01:12.280 way about right-wing media. When I came in here, I just felt like I would be doing this forever.
00:01:19.060 And Charlie Kirk was somebody when you watched him speak and you watched him debate.
00:01:24.320 yes there were things you might have disagreed with him on i mean yes there's even stuff i
00:01:28.880 didn't agree with him on but he was somebody when you watch you knew that he was like born to do
00:01:35.920 that and i used to love watching i mean guys when i was um in school my personality it's very
00:01:44.560 naturally left like it's very um i always say if i didn't have a conservative dad and it wasn't for
00:01:50.400 conservative media i'd probably be like a hippie in a van somewhere because i'm just very like open
00:01:57.520 um and really his content candace owens charlotte like back in the day everything was left like
00:02:07.360 everything shoved down our throat and school was left um you go to college i had you know trans 0.59
00:02:13.040 people in my dorms in college. Um, and there were some ideas that like I was maybe kind of
00:02:19.980 susceptible to, um, but I never went too far down like the left rabbit hole because of people like
00:02:26.040 him. Um, I mean, people in my personal life too, but I don't know. There was just something about
00:02:34.380 the fact that Charlie was obviously like going places in life.
00:02:38.340 But the problem that you get in media, and I can kind of speak to experiencing this
00:02:47.620 and also witnessing other like YouTubers and media personalities.
00:02:54.860 In life, usually other people have like canon events. So
00:02:59.740 if you guys talk bad at work or say something too conservative, there's like a harsh consequence.
00:03:06.900 you might lose your job you might get you know pulled into hr and um
00:03:15.620 you know that's when people stop talking but the problem in media is you don't really have those
00:03:21.700 and in fact you know the more harsh you are the more brazen the less consequences you have you
00:03:27.860 You go viral, you get clicks.
00:03:32.880 And I don't think YouTubers, we often think about how much danger we're in
00:03:41.120 because day to day you don't really experience it.
00:03:43.340 You mostly talk to like a camera and that sort of thing.
00:03:45.880 um but what you realize is this is kind of blackpilling because um
00:03:57.020 there really is not freedom of speech in this country um i know we always say that like
00:04:03.660 you can say whatever you want but is it really freedom of speech if people can sue you for
00:04:10.120 millions of dollars and ruin your livelihood like Alex Jones? Is it really freedom of speech
00:04:16.680 if you have to live in fear of being shot like Charlie Kirk? Is it really freedom of speech
00:04:24.040 if the consequences are so severe you have to pay with your life and your livelihood?
00:04:29.160 This year I watched Trump almost get shot. I watched an assassination attempt on Nick Fuentes.
00:04:34.720 I saw Tommy Robinson get thrown in jail. I'm now seeing Charlie Kirk die.
00:04:42.380 And it's really blackpilling because it's like, who's next?
00:04:47.820 I hate that I have to be blackpilled. I hate being a pessimist. It's much easier to sell
00:04:55.540 hope to say we're going to fight back. But I think if I'm being honest, I don't see this
00:05:03.000 improving in my lifetime, or at least not in the next 10 years. And I think it's because
00:05:09.720 I've watched this rhetoric for 10 years and I've only seen it get worse. I haven't seen it really
00:05:16.580 improve. Like 10 years ago, I would watch these debates and I just didn't, I didn't see,
00:05:26.360 I don't think it was normal for people to have a fear of getting shot.
00:05:33.000 okay so we're going to go over some of the updates that i've seen on twitter
00:05:42.060 and then i'll kind of give my thoughts as we're going through them
00:05:46.740 um i think i'm going to play some of his old videos first just in like
00:05:51.800 memory or whatever and you know what's even more blackpilling
00:05:57.260 seeing people I like and just like there'll be people that I like as people day to day they're
00:06:03.680 nice people they're kind they're respectful and just like watching and listening to them
00:06:08.200 make light of his death
00:06:13.180 because he had a difference in opinion it's like what is wrong with people
00:06:20.740 um like i mean people were saying that he deserved this because he was pro-gun laws
00:06:32.320 and and i just keep thinking i'm like okay you guys might have had different strategies to reduce
00:06:38.860 crime but that doesn't mean it's you know like that one liberal got attacked on the street with
00:06:45.540 his girlfriend and like stabbed by a homeless person in front of her like last year and it
00:06:51.300 turned out i think he was a blm activist or some bullshit i would never wish that upon anybody 0.71
00:07:02.860 you know just because he had a different strategy people generally want the same 0.82
00:07:11.640 things like no one wants to live in a crime-ridden society nobody wants to live in
00:07:23.320 people want in general want to see people do well people want to make money people
00:07:27.800 don't want to pay taxes um and you know people don't want to fight in a war
00:07:34.840 but people just have different strategies to get to what most people agree that we want
00:07:42.760 um and now there's just such incentive um
00:07:50.440 to really i mean kill people for clout in a way
00:07:59.520 um and the thing is you kind of make a deal with the devil in a way
00:08:04.660 when you do this kind of work.
00:08:07.660 And the deal is you get internet fame,
00:08:13.260 you get good work hours, you make a lot of money,
00:08:15.500 but the cost is your safety and your security forever.
00:08:21.280 And I was talking behind the scenes,
00:08:23.460 like I know a lot of big YouTubers behind the scenes
00:08:26.580 in the space.
00:08:30.740 And
00:08:31.020 a lot of, I mean, this is going to change the way we do things forever. I know there's a lot
00:08:44.500 of talk on, you know, that people are still going to do the debates and we're going to go through
00:08:49.840 that. But YouTubers now forever and right-wing political commentary people are going to be
00:08:57.540 looking over their shoulder. And I don't think you guys realize, like if I go into a place and
00:09:04.320 I'm not, I'm not trying to make, they have it way worse. I know people that are so political that
00:09:09.120 they just can't live normal lives anymore. And the people that do, that make it really easy.
00:09:16.100 I just, I don't see this stopping sadly.
00:09:27.540 sadly okay so let me let me do this let me share my screen i'm just in a weird i've been
00:09:36.000 in such a like weird place for the last day um okay charlie kirk didn't talk about free speech
00:09:45.060 he lived it he failed faced protesters hecklers walkouts and he kept showing up with the same
00:09:49.800 message debate me he was killed during the america comeback tour in utah state valley
00:09:54.680 targeting. The American way of life means you follow the law, you work hard, you honor God,
00:10:07.340 you raise your kids with strong values, and you work to create a civil society. The American way
00:10:14.760 of life means you speak your mind without retribution, without being kicked off social
00:10:19.760 media by a self-righteous censor in Silicon Valley. It means you can freely practice your
00:10:25.140 religion and that church is more essential than a casino. To all the Gen Zers watching this 1.00
00:10:32.160 convention on TikTok right now, I have a message just for you. You don't have to stay poor. You
00:10:38.240 don't have to accept being worse off than your parents. You don't have to feel aimless and
00:10:42.600 unhappy. You don't have to support leaders who lied to you and took advantage of you for your
00:10:47.940 vote. America's future is a series of choices. Our current state of slow motion, national decline
00:10:57.680 is a choice. We together are going to do the work to save America.
00:11:06.880 It's just so sad.
00:11:11.400 I know they're saying the Democrats killed him. Some people are saying Mossad. I can't know
00:11:17.840 until all the facts came out tim pool says no more public appearances um i said yesterday i was kind
00:11:25.620 of emotional um that i'm done with street interviews for the year i don't know if i am or
00:11:31.440 i'm not i have to i have to think about it because i mean the challenge you get as a youtuber and i'm
00:11:38.060 just being honest, especially for me. I mean, it's like, you know, I've had boy, like my boyfriend
00:11:51.720 got doxxed because of me, you know, it's like, you know, my mom got doxxed, our address got
00:11:57.220 and it's like, you don't, the challenge you get is you love this line of work, but people in your
00:12:05.660 life pay for it because of lunatics on the internet and you want to speak out against
00:12:12.060 some of the atrocities that are going on and i'm always going to do it right but
00:12:18.780 it's tough when you know the people around you are worried about you
00:12:27.340 and that's what they say they say you need to fight right but what does fighting look like you know
00:12:35.660 I mean, it's like Spider-Man. If they can get you, they can get your family.
00:12:50.340 And, you know, I think I have this ability to see a lot of different points of view. 0.98
00:12:56.200 And someone's saying, like, you know, because I keep hearing, and it's kind of bullshit, 0.97
00:13:00.220 that because he supported like the Gaza side in the war that he deserved to be attacked. And I'm 0.99
00:13:06.820 just like, that doesn't, I don't think, you know, there are people that believe different things
00:13:16.220 about the war. And I want to say, I think both sides do not want war. They want peace in the
00:13:23.740 long-term. They just have different strategies and beliefs of how to get there.
00:13:33.840 Yeah. So we'll, we'll continue the next tweet I wanted to go over was,
00:13:39.720 I guess somebody asked Charlie what he would say if he had like a day to live
00:13:43.560 or to someone. Oh, shoot.
00:13:47.080 I'm dying from a gunshot wound. 0.57
00:13:58.520 What would you actually want to tell me if I have 30 seconds left to live?
00:14:01.360 In 30 seconds, you're about to meet eternal judgment.
00:14:04.100 And so you've got 10 seconds left, you're dying from a gunshot wound.
00:14:07.080 And there's only one way that you can get bailed out of that.
00:14:09.260 It's not all the good things you did or the moral scorecard.
00:14:11.660 It's whether or not you have Jesus Christ as your Lord.
00:14:13.860 how do you want to die i want to be i want to be remembered for for courage for my faith
00:14:24.180 that would be the most important most important thing
00:14:30.260 god it's just so sad
00:14:34.660 i don't know i i think
00:14:35.860 we are going to remember this is just one of those moments everybody is going to remember
00:14:44.420 so this is so after charlie kirk got shot um there's they've released the dispatcher audio
00:14:52.340 and we'll go through the um we will go through the picture of the guy that was released to hold on
00:15:01.940 UVU by the Samson reported one individual that was shot unknown where the shooter went.
00:15:08.500 UVU in Orem has had an active shooter at a Charlie Kirk event. We're getting several calls. We're
00:15:14.740 trying to get more information. 418 copy. How many injured do we have?
00:15:19.620 It's just one person. Sounds like maybe another individual in the car. We're not
00:15:26.420 sure if they're a patient or if they're just trying to get out of the area.
00:15:29.860 We do have officers following the victim to Tampadabas Hospital.
00:15:33.860 Just east of the library, he's wearing jeans, black shirt, black mask, long rifle.
00:15:41.860 Coming to UVU, there was one shot.
00:15:46.860 We are staging at the front of the school by the roundabout.
00:15:52.860 He's on top of the building on the far north side, just east of the library,
00:15:57.860 Wearing jeans, black shirt, black vest.
00:16:00.920 Copy.
00:16:01.420 Can you confirm with PD?
00:16:02.720 Do they have the shooter in custody?
00:16:05.120 Your DPS is requesting to try and get that motorcycle stopped.
00:16:08.680 It might be a suspect in that shooting.
00:16:10.100 What was your traffic?
00:16:11.340 It's possibly a suspect from the shooting.
00:16:13.460 We could try and get that vehicle stopped.
00:16:15.100 Okay.
00:16:15.620 So that's the dispatch.
00:16:18.420 Charlie Kirk was a big supporter of Israel
00:16:20.540 and still started to question the events of October 7th.
00:16:23.760 Jewish money funding university and Israel's methodology.
00:16:26.920 don't talk about Israel and you'll be fine. I don't know if I have to be honest, when I hear 0.98
00:16:36.800 this stuff, it always sounds a little bit conspiracy theory. It's possible. I don't know.
00:16:43.060 JFK was against Israel's nuclear demonia project and put pressure on them about it and started to
00:16:48.560 question their methodology. I don't know. I don't think it's always Israel. Sometimes I think it's 1.00
00:16:54.620 just like a crazy, you know, a crazy person because he would go after LGBTQ and they're 0.76
00:17:00.760 saying now, and I'm going to read this in a bit, that there was trans, um, stuff on the bullet, 0.95
00:17:06.700 like trans messaging. There's a lot of mentally ill people in the trans community. Um, 0.99
00:17:13.980 and if you say enough stuff, so Fox news, digital retraces the suspect's possible escape
00:17:24.460 route from the rooftop at utah valley university where charlie kirk was assassinated
00:17:32.300 okay
00:17:54.460 Thank you.
00:18:24.460 Okay, so that's probably the route that they're thinking he took.
00:18:54.460 how would i watch this already um
00:19:02.140 okay so oh wait no let me go back
00:19:14.540 i was combing um i was coming through hours of footage last night and came across this a woman
00:19:19.180 in her vehicle who was an attendee at charlie kirk's event said she got tickets but there was
00:19:23.180 no one there checking tickets anyone could walk in she said there was no security at all can
00:19:27.980 someone who's been to charlie kirk's events let me know if this is common why sell tickets if you're
00:19:31.740 going to let everyone in this could be key in addition she claims she was front center to charlie 0.98
00:19:36.380 and heard her shot right in front of her implying that it came from charlie's left however there's
00:19:41.180 no evidence that supports a shot from that direction that i can find as well many walls
00:19:45.980 and structures were between her and a reported shooter on a building behind her which could
00:19:49.660 explain why the shot sounded like it came from right behind her. So this is a woman basically 1.00
00:19:56.220 saying there's no security at these events. And that's the other thing. Even, I was thinking
00:20:01.260 about stuff I've done in the past. I mean, there was times when I would go to, I would go out in
00:20:11.280 London with a tripod. And I mean, they're far more political than me. So it's a way, you know,
00:20:18.880 I'm not even trying to make the comparison, but you know, there were times where I would take a
00:20:25.400 tripod and it would just be me doing street interviews. And I was even thinking how dumb 0.98
00:20:30.280 that was. I'm like, and I would have these like super controversial signs, like abortion is a cop 0.90
00:20:35.520 out and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Um, um, I just never, I never would have thought something
00:20:48.160 like this would happen pasty says there's unedited videos on twitter showing two man
00:20:52.020 standing really close to charlie kirk doing funny hand gestures right before he was hit
00:20:56.820 this seems to be a pro hit and not just from some random crazy person
00:21:00.360 i i did see the hand gestures i'm not fully convinced but i mean we'll watch it and we can
00:21:08.760 side together point that way on the camera well there was no security they let i bought i mean
00:21:28.120 i got tickets and they didn't even take the tickets to get us in they just let everybody
00:21:32.440 in there. So there was no, there was no, no police, no, no, um, I walked in with tripods
00:21:38.900 sticking out of my backpack. No problem. I know there was no, no security at all. That's
00:21:45.480 what makes me really mad. And then I, I looked at the ticket, got the tickets and they didn't
00:21:49.500 even take our tickets. Yeah. We saw the whole thing. Please tell me what. I just saw, we
00:21:57.320 just saw him up there talking and then I heard the gunshot and then we saw him fall.
00:22:02.440 message. You know what? It came out of my right. I was right in the center on the top level and it
00:22:06.340 came out the right side. Okay. So there are accounts saying they may have identified the
00:22:22.900 shooter. There is a picture of him. It's on the thumbnail that's being released. Multiple accounts
00:22:27.720 reporting that they may have identified the charlie kirk shooter 4chan intel identified suspect sky
00:22:33.560 valdez has a soundcloud with a track that was uploaded a month ago titled charlie kirk dead
00:22:39.880 at 31 the deleted track and deleted the track and changed his location to leave me alone lives in utah
00:22:52.920 can i play this what the hell 0.99
00:22:57.720 holy shit 0.98
00:23:01.660 oh now they're saying this wasn't him 0.97
00:23:14.700 I'm the original poster of the song
00:23:18.660 and I would like to share that it is
00:23:19.960 a psyop and it's purely coincidental
00:23:22.640 I made the track back in March after
00:23:24.260 a dream I had I thought it would
00:23:26.240 make an odd title thinking nothing of it the man was shot an hour from my place of residence and
00:23:31.420 I woke up to my phone being blown up regarding the situation I've been in nothing but panic
00:23:35.780 because I've had numerous threats sent to me regarding the death in Utah tracks
00:23:39.640 and that's because the local scene is kind of cheeks
00:23:43.400 okay well maybe this person isn't it
00:23:50.280 this person looks like they have a smaller jaw
00:23:55.480 than this person
00:23:56.440 okay
00:23:58.240 okay so here's a video
00:24:05.220 of the
00:24:06.700 shooter on the
00:24:09.280 rooftop
00:24:09.700 you would think that so there's somebody on the roof right there just saying sure he just ran
00:24:27.760 from uh over where's my finger well from over there ran in
00:24:33.500 i think what happens also is you never think this is going to happen to you and security is so
00:24:53.140 expensive so it's like i mean i've kind of had this thought like my first year at carnival i
00:24:59.200 did street interviews I didn't have any security nothing I just brought a camera person and the
00:25:05.500 vibe on those interviews is so much better because you know I mean people are kind of on guard when
00:25:13.120 they see with like a bunch of security and all this stuff and everyone watch and you get way
00:25:17.100 better interviews you know when it's a bit more chill and the second year I brought security
00:25:24.100 because i was just a little more well-known and it was i mean it's so expensive so it's like if
00:25:30.260 every event you have to pay an extra 50k for security and nothing's really happened um
00:25:37.940 you know it's kind of like how much do you want to spend on each event
00:25:41.940 because you don't need security until you need it you know what i mean freedom
00:25:45.700 before we begin let me express the horror and grief so many americans at the heinous
00:25:55.380 assassination of charlie kirk have felt charlie was a giant of his generation a champion of liberty
00:26:04.780 and an inspiration to millions and millions of people our prayers are with his wonderful wife
00:26:12.620 eric and his beautiful children fantastic people they are we miss him greatly yet i have no doubt
00:26:21.740 that charlie's voice and the courage he put into the hearts of countless people especially young
00:26:28.780 people will live on i'm pleased to announce that i will soon be awarding charlie kirk posthumously
00:26:36.060 the presidential medal of freedom the date of the ceremony will be announced and i can only
00:26:43.160 guarantee you one thing that we will have a very big crowd very very big
00:26:47.780 okay here we got
00:26:55.340 we have images of this so the headline came at the end there dana we have images of the suspect
00:27:05.180 that after they gave us a number of details that we were not privy to prior so they say a number
00:27:12.660 of individuals question they've been released they asked for privacy for them at 11 52 a.m utah time
00:27:18.580 they tracked the suspect to that building they later after the shooting tracked him jumping off
00:27:25.620 the building fleeing into a neighborhood and they're asking neighbors in that area if they
00:27:31.900 have doorbell cameras to turn over anything that may produce an image. What they didn't say is
00:27:37.720 whether or not he ran there on foot or drove a car. But later they said, we do have good video
00:27:43.540 of this individual. We are confident in our abilities. And with regard to that, they say
00:27:48.380 they have footwear prints. So perhaps he was on foot and also palm prints. And they asked for any
00:27:57.340 video and images tipped to the website there. This is a bolt-action rifle. It is manually operated,
00:28:05.900 it is extremely accurate, and according to a lot of gun experts, it has fewer moving parts,
00:28:14.540 which would give the killer an opportunity to take a more accurate shot.
00:28:21.100 And based on the graphic images that the world saw yesterday afternoon,
00:28:27.340 That shot was a kill shot.
00:28:31.520 It took one, and Charlie Kirk barely had a chance of survival.
00:28:46.440 Okay, Stephen Crowder also posted updates.
00:28:50.340 We're going to go through those.
00:28:57.340 All right. This morning, my team received an email from an officer at ATF. The email included
00:29:15.640 a screenshot from what appears to be an internal message describing a weapon and cartridges located
00:29:20.600 by an ATF and other law enforcement near the scene of the Charlie Kirk shooting at Utah Valley
00:29:25.740 State University. On September 10th at approximately 12.24 p.m., conservative political
00:29:31.680 influencer Charlie Kirk was shot and killed at the Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah.
00:29:36.500 Mr. Kirk was speaking at the university as a part of the American Comeback Tour. Multiple SLC
00:29:42.600 won, and three agents responded immediately. The suspect fired one shot from an elevated position
00:29:48.360 on a rooftop in an adjacent building on campus, and the surveillance video shows the suspect
00:29:53.020 jumping off and fleeing the area on foot, ATF and other law enforcement located in an older model
00:29:58.940 imported a Mauser .30-06 caliber bolt action rifle wrapped in a towel in a wooded area near
00:30:07.440 the campus. The location of the firearm appears to match the suspect's route of travel. The spent
00:30:15.500 cartridge was still chambered in addition to three unspent rounds at the top Fed magazine. All
00:30:22.300 cartridges have engraved wording on them expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology.
00:30:28.760 An emergency trace has been submitted and ATF SLC is working leads generated by the trace. The
00:30:34.260 firearm and ammunition have been taken by the FBI for DNA analysis and fingerprint impressions.
00:30:39.760 Upon completion of forensics, the firearm will be disassembled for additional imposter importer
00:30:46.620 information. Multiple people of interest have contacted or detained because of eyewitness
00:30:51.280 testimony and review of video footage, but the primary suspect is yet to be identified. ATF is
00:30:57.120 assisting the investigation with multiple other federal, state, and local partners. And the case
00:31:03.160 is co-led by the FBI and Utah SBI. And some people are skeptical of this. Some people are saying,
00:31:17.880 I mean, I know, like, the go-to is always Israel, like, that's always what they're going to say.
00:31:24.960 Personally, I'm just a little bit of a skeptic when it comes to that stuff.
00:31:29.580 Pearl, when are we going on a date?
00:31:36.860 This is, like, a memorial stream.
00:31:39.000 This is not, this is not the time.
00:31:42.400 Do you know what I mean?
00:31:42.920 It's, like, I'm taken anyway, but it's, like,
00:31:47.880 okay. Um, okay. Mario knew, no, Mario now fall, um, broke down how Charlie Kirk's shooting went
00:32:07.980 down. Charlie Kirk's murder at Utah Valley State University wasn't a close range ambush. It was a
00:32:14.060 sniper style hit from afar with security guards shielding him from the crowd but powerless against
00:32:18.900 rooftop shooters. CNN pieced it together using aerial footage, eyewitness videos, and official
00:32:25.040 timelines. The event kicked off around noon yesterday in UVU's busting courtyard. Kirk 31
00:32:30.720 was on stage under the American Comeback banner fielding questions on mass shootings to a crowd
00:32:36.260 of 2 000 to 3 000 students security six campus officers total formed a loose barrier between
00:32:43.860 kirk and the audience with no bag checks or metal detectors protesters had cleared been cleared from
00:32:50.580 a nearby roof but that didn't stop the gunmen mid response to a decade of shooting shootings queries
00:32:56.900 a single rifle crack echoed 200 yards away and a rooftop uh perch overlooking the stage kirk's
00:33:03.460 dragged to the waiting car, but it was two ladies pronounced dead en route to the hospital. 1.00
00:33:07.480 Authorities say the shooter in dark clothing likely used a scoped rifle for the precise
00:33:11.720 neck shot, exploiting the open layout. The man hunts sweeping buildings and neighborhoods,
00:33:17.300 but the suspects ghosted. In a nation of edge, one rooftop vantage turned debate into death.
00:33:23.520 Could tighter checks have saved him? Okay, let's watch the video.
00:33:27.080 the kickoff for charlie kirk's 14 city tour was here in orem utah about 40 miles away from salt
00:33:35.100 lake city at utah valley university thousands of people mainly students were gathering in a large
00:33:42.380 open courtyard minutes before the shooting video from kirk's own x account shows an open space
00:33:49.600 and a barrier between the tent and the students with multiple security guards standing at the
00:33:54.980 defense line. Police say there were six campus police officers there as well.
00:34:01.660 Kirk was a rock star among young conservatives largely because of events like this,
00:34:07.240 meeting college students up close on campuses across the country. Police say roughly 3,000
00:34:12.800 people showed up for this one, all watching and listening as it happened. Kirk was answering a
00:34:19.160 question about mass shootings. Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass
00:34:23.660 shooters over the last 10 years too many okay now five is a lot right i'm gonna give you 0.94
00:34:34.880 some credit do you know how many mass shooters there have been in america over the last 10
00:34:40.580 years counting or not counting gang violence okay i don't i don't know if it's gonna
00:34:45.200 Kirk is rushing good. I was like, I didn't want to show him getting shot on YouTube into an SUV
00:34:54.480 and taken to the hospital. Panic crowds ran as police jumped in. And as the advised UVU in Orem
00:35:02.480 has had an active shooter at the Charlie Kirk event. We're getting several calls. We're trying
00:35:07.220 to get more information. In the scramble after Kirk was shot, video taken from inside a building
00:35:13.060 captures what appears to be someone running across a rooftop. That rooftop is this building called
00:35:19.720 the Lossie Center, less than 200 yards away from the spot where Kirk was hit. If that runner was
00:35:25.840 the shooter, he would have been positioned about here. From this shot, you can see the rooftop of
00:35:31.760 the Lossie building is pretty easy to access. It's connected to another building by an elevated
00:35:37.120 walkway, which as you can see is only separated from the roof by a railing. Aerial footage after
00:35:43.660 the shooting shows police tape on the roof of the Losey building. And at about 12.36 p.m. an officer
00:35:51.100 describes a possible suspect. He's wearing jeans, black shirt, black mask, long rifle. He's on top
00:35:57.320 of the building on the far north side, just east of the library, wearing jeans, black shirt, black
00:36:02.980 that six hours later utah valley university issued an all-clear saying the threat is over
00:36:10.100 charlie kirk the 31 year old father of two young children did not survive
00:36:19.220 it's just devastating
00:36:23.700 okay um here's joe rogan reacting to the news
00:36:26.820 this just happened uh we just found out that charlie kirk got shot 0.94
00:36:33.780 it's fucking awful and is he dead no i don't think so that's what was one of the guys out 0.92
00:36:43.320 there just said okay in the lobby was just i was looking i've been looking i haven't seen anything 0.99
00:36:48.460 that's confirmed whoa murder for having a different opinion from somebody else yeah
00:36:58.780 different ideology from somebody else yeah yeah i mean i don't know beliefs that didn't align 0.97
00:37:06.640 yeah i'm sorry yeah rest in peace fuck news oh jesus 20 27 years old maybe 30 they even have a 0.96
00:37:17.120 a suspect i don't know that's a crazy thing they still haven't found him no 0.98
00:37:22.720 that's why i don't i don't i'm literally trying to track it all on twitter and it's all 0.99
00:37:26.720 fuck fuck nobody deserves it he doesn't deserve that nobody deserves that 0.99
00:37:34.320 so so were you saying that msnbc had a crazy take on it what was their take i'm literally 1.00
00:37:41.520 just reading twitter so i didn't see the video i just saw people talking about tweets of it
00:37:45.600 Uh, I'll pull it up though. 0.99
00:37:51.960 Fuck. 0.99
00:37:54.180 And even now they could have taken it down. 1.00
00:37:58.220 It was a tweet or a video.
00:37:59.880 I don't, I don't, I don't, I'm, you know, doing the show while I'm trying to figure it out.
00:38:03.920 Right. No, I understand.
00:38:04.800 Uh, I think they were live on the air and people clipped what they were talking about.
00:38:10.180 It's not a tweet. It's not on their Twitter account or anything.
00:38:12.580 So it's someone's hot take.
00:38:15.600 in the live in the moment yeah that's a crazy take crazy take is that what was the take that
00:38:23.460 they deserved it that's why i didn't want to pair right
00:38:26.280 okay um so i wanted to go to ryan stone's twitter and then we're gonna show all the leftists insane
00:38:36.720 responses okay ryan stone he's a red pill content creator and i don't know i was looking at his
00:38:45.560 Twitter and I'm like, this is literally how I feel. Um, those Scottish girls, the event though, 0.90
00:38:53.120 sorry, those Scottish girls are the event that will set things off. No, wait, the Ukrainian 1.00
00:38:57.320 girl on the train will be the event that set things, sets things off. No, Charlie Kirk will
00:39:01.980 be the event that sets things off. Oh, trust me. Things are about to pop off. People desperate for
00:39:07.260 a right wing George Floyd face that you saw BLM and want, and want one based on your consumer
00:39:13.500 preference. Let me see the other ones. It's not all talk. You see, you're a switch. There is a
00:39:29.820 dial because they aren't as good at violence as you are. You're great. He said, of all the
00:39:40.120 Kevin Samuel's wisdom, which is the one you can best remember. I will admit when I was wrong,
00:39:44.360 people actually remember three or four of his things. Yeah. And that's, that's the thing when
00:39:47.860 people disappear, they just kind of, um, let me find the other one. Um, Connick, this great man
00:40:00.780 of history is correct. Liberals are the idiots that think people that people can make the change. 1.00
00:40:05.660 um also conning charlie kirk was murdered the people are going to rise up 1.00
00:40:10.460 um why is everyone running a victory lap is this is this week's violence somehow
00:40:18.100 more definitive than last week's um
00:40:21.880 there's an infinite amount of nobody accounts with a thousand followers and a thousand following
00:40:34.140 them anti-social socials cheering a murder enough for you to easily find one um and yell well they
00:40:41.480 are getting desperate they're desperately trying to get some clout off of the outrage next week
00:40:45.920 they will be back to not existing now i always like his stuff because he kind of points out
00:40:52.780 what's going on because everyone thinks like that things are going to change but it's like you know
00:40:57.540 we do this outrage in this, you know, the streams and talk about how sad it is, but
00:41:02.160 I don't really see things getting better after this because it's just, I feel like as a viewer,
00:41:09.580 I've been promised it's going to get better for a decade and it just always goes in the same
00:41:15.000 direction. I wanted to see if we wanted to come on and talk about it. Everyone wants tragedy to
00:41:23.060 have meaning, to inspire men to do the right thing, for evil people to be punishing good
00:41:27.560 people to stand up. Everyone wants a happy ending, but no one wants to rush their 401k
00:41:32.580 on being the tip of the sphere. It's catharsis. I'm cynical and I might be wrong, but from what I
00:41:40.460 see, it's mostly turn the other cheek talk. Dude gets shot. Lefties are acting a damn fool and
00:41:47.260 provoking people over the shooting and most still want to talk. I just didn't see how this turns 1.00
00:41:51.740 into any kind of action. JFK and MLK were both assassinated in no civil war. In fact, a ton of
00:41:59.200 people in the 60s were. And the response was compliance to the Civil Rights Act. Keep your 0.72
00:42:03.940 powder dry. History is a great indication of the future. And then he quote tweeted people
00:42:09.720 on Twitter saying, no one has a clue who killed Charlie Kirk, but somehow a massive social media
00:42:15.060 consensus on access for him, concluding Democrats are the parties of murder. Leftism is terrorism.
00:42:20.380 and the Civil War has started in America for a bunch of red pillars. You sure jump on a narrative 0.73
00:42:24.480 without any evidence. Evidence, extended footage of a fight at Idaho Capitol after a man drove
00:42:31.880 through the Fidgel on a scooter yelling F Charlie Kirk. And then all the conservatives saying,
00:42:37.140 don't do this, don't do this. This is what they want. Sinking to their level is not the answer.
00:42:41.200 People fighting instead of talking represents the opposite of everything Charlie Kirk stood for.
00:42:45.980 And the problem is there's no freedom of speech. It's just who has the bigger guns.
00:42:50.380 when women hold the bigger guns, the purchasing power, when leftists are crazy and conservatives 1.00
00:42:57.980 won't do that. Say what you want about things in Utah today. Nothing will change for you. Sure, 0.63
00:43:05.580 you'll say shit online, but that's about it. I'm not saying everyone should freak the F out. I'm 0.99
00:43:10.920 saying it's the time for posturing and hyperbolic though, but just for the big brands. Everyone
00:43:18.080 else needs to be scared and angry and glued to their phones or else they win um yeah so that's
00:43:48.080 Okay. I'm going to go back to the, it's too bad he couldn't call in. And then I'm going to actually
00:44:03.260 let you guys call in and just tell me what you guys are thinking about the whole situation.
00:44:09.080 All right. So here are the leftists just crashing out.
00:44:13.080 all right hassan abi says charlie kirk opposed the civil rights act called george floyd a scumbag 0.99
00:44:21.700 and said he'd be worried about black pilots and then he'd be forced to he'd force his daughter 0.99
00:44:26.200 to carry a pregnancy to term if she was raped he shouldn't have been killed but he def was an 0.99
00:44:31.020 extremist it's like what is wrong with these people um tim cast says
00:44:38.340 charlie didn't want anyone dead with these people or demons who lie about spreading violence so here 0.95
00:44:44.820 is there seems to be this weird emphasis on the sympathy for charlie kirk is fucking weird there 0.89
00:44:50.820 seems to be this weird emphasis on taking the moral high ground and that you are somehow a
00:44:55.440 better person if you're like i feel bad for his family this is the world he wanted and the world 0.85
00:45:01.940 he was building this is a white supremacist who wanted both of us dead he was shot in the middle 0.52
00:45:06.780 of saying something transphobic about trans people and yet you want to have sympathy for him you don't 0.83
00:45:12.540 have to like violence but i'm confused as to how you thought the revolution was going to be magically
00:45:16.860 bloodless where is this sympathy for palestinians for the sudanese people for the congolese for the 0.73
00:45:22.940 black people in america that are killed at the hands of police violence for the black trans 0.96
00:45:26.700 women that are being murdered for simply existing why does this sympathy extend to a white supremacist 0.87
00:45:31.500 but not to the communities that actually need your care i think that people are afraid they're
00:45:35.180 going to lose a part of their humanity if they don't have sympathy for somebody who is a victim
00:45:39.660 of gun violence when in reality you're losing your humanity by allowing fascists to define
00:45:45.740 your sympathy for you while you're busy having a moral dilemma they win i think it's admirable to
00:45:51.260 want to find the best in people and to want to continue to have sympathy for those who experience
00:45:55.740 something tragic this is the world that man wanted to live in and while he's dead there's a lot of
00:46:01.100 folks that need that care and sympathy that are still alive what is wrong with these people
00:46:09.180 um a university of north texas student is going viral for confronting a classmate
00:46:14.940 who is passing around um wait uh a charlie kirk video dying while laughing
00:46:22.700 and says the professor who singled her out and asked her to leave class
00:46:31.100 Thank you.
00:47:01.100 Thank you. 0.99
00:47:31.100 damn 0.99
00:47:38.100 this is so black 1.00
00:47:42.140 pilling
00:47:42.700 alright we got another one
00:47:45.640 awful thing I've ever seen in my life
00:47:49.500 I just witnessed Charlie Kirk get assassinated
00:47:52.000 it was the most awful thing I've ever seen
00:47:54.140 in my life 0.89
00:47:54.740 I just put him in the neck and blood
00:47:58.000 went everywhere and the worst part
00:48:00.200 was all was the liberals who were there were cheering so i just have one thing to say
00:48:08.200 if you identify yourself with the liberal party
00:48:14.440 it's okay you can believe what you want to believe but if you identify yourselves with those people
00:48:21.160 who were cheering
00:48:24.140 and someone just got killed
00:48:27.760 I just hope you can take a look at yourself
00:48:30.640 and think is this who I really want to be 0.98
00:48:33.060 because that is disgusting 0.97
00:48:35.060 disgusting
00:48:37.740 I just witnessed 0.90
00:48:39.400 alright here's another one
00:48:47.900 Lib's crashing out 0.88
00:48:50.060 do you support his death do you support his death i do you support his death you support
00:48:58.980 charlie kirk being killed yes i do on the day he died you're here at a vigil
00:49:02.260 for charlie kirk and you support his death you support do you support a nazi
00:49:06.660 no i don't support a nazi charlie kirk wasn't a nazi supported you support his shooter
00:49:10.540 you support charlie kirk's shooter 0.99
00:49:13.660 would you shoot somebody like charlie kirk you would have killed him yourself okay 0.98
00:49:21.600 you have a job here in seattle do you support his death i do you support his death 0.88
00:49:30.720 it's just so messed up like why people don't have a sense of unity like other groups they'll never
00:49:38.860 band together i mean half of the people complaining or celebrating charlie kirk's death are white 0.88
00:49:45.500 that would never happen with black people like they'll riot i mean they'll take to the streets 1.00
00:49:52.620 but white people it's like we'll crucify each other in the name of like appeasing other groups 0.99
00:50:01.580 so i'm very aware that when you look at me you see the hair and the nose ring you probably think
00:50:05.820 think I'm a huge liberal. I love living in America. I love this country. I am a diehard centrist. I have
00:50:15.740 a lot of liberal views and I have a lot of conservative views but most of the time I'm
00:50:21.560 able to see the gray in areas and come to a critically thought out conclusion about the
00:50:28.600 right and wrong. The amount of people I've had to unfriend or unfollow because they're cheering
00:50:36.840 and happy about what happened today is very disheartening. And if you're following me on
00:50:43.460 here and you're upset that I'm not cheering and woohoo, please unfollow me. I'm sorry if you
00:50:49.980 followed me because the way I looked. We live in a country where I can look the way I want to look
00:50:56.900 and I can have the opinions I want to have and say the things I want to have because of where
00:51:00.580 we live. And this is an attack on freedom of speech, no matter how you look at it, whether
00:51:07.260 you like Charlie, you didn't like Charlie. I only believe in the death penalty for murderers
00:51:13.060 and child abusers, not somebody who's debating people and giving people with different opinions
00:51:19.920 platform, whether he agrees with them or disagrees, he's giving everybody chances to talk. 0.98
00:51:25.180 this is disgusting
00:51:27.420 a lot of people are acting really gross about this okay so here we got ben shapiro um his
00:51:36.540 response so there's some youtubers coming out and saying that they're gonna still do events
00:51:42.500 they're still gonna do debates but i don't see people doing things the way they did them before
00:51:49.700 Um, I could hypothesize that maybe they will with extra security, but I just don't,
00:52:00.440 I don't think most YouTubers want to die doing this stuff.
00:52:19.700 Amen.
00:52:49.700 i i could see people bringing guns like supporters maybe that's a way to do it is like if right-wing
00:53:06.280 supporters came together and started bringing their own guns you know and their own surveillance
00:53:12.460 Thank you.
00:53:42.460 let me see then we got over here at a moment and I think right now we are at a extremely
00:54:10.360 pivotal moment. And I think that what's going to end up happening is that right-wing people are
00:54:16.920 not going to continue to turn the other cheek. They're not going to continue to just, oh, well,
00:54:22.860 you know, this is just a crazy left-wing radical. I think you're probably going to see right-wing
00:54:27.540 people doing the same thing to left-wing people. And honestly, while I don't think this is a good
00:54:33.160 thing, I certainly don't really feel that sorry for them. Because a lot of left-wing people have
00:54:38.100 no problem advocating for violence, or at least using coded language in order to advocate for
00:54:44.200 violence. The fact is that there's a certain level of intellectual dishonesty that goes on in
00:54:49.400 situations like this where it's considered, oh, well, you know, this isn't actually what they
00:54:54.880 meant. And no, this is actually some others. No, it is. It's exactly what they mean. They're trying
00:54:59.980 to advocate for killing people that they disagree with. That's what's happening. And there's no 0.59
00:55:04.200 talking around it and to the extent that you try to you're insulting the intelligence of anyone
00:55:08.600 that you're speaking to and i think that now you're going to start seeing a lot of right-wing
00:55:13.640 people end up doing this to left-wing people now even more because it's very clear that
00:55:20.760 these social media platforms are not going to moderate this behavior the fbi for whatever
00:55:26.120 reason just refuses to deal with or have any degree of accountability for dealing with these
00:55:31.960 obvious terrorists that are in the country. And because of that, I think you're going to start
00:55:36.640 seeing an uptick of violence from right-wing people as well. And this is going to be, in my
00:55:41.580 opinion, I don't really think the word is justified because it's not justified, but the word is
00:55:48.300 expected. I think it's going to be expected. The fact is that, you know, again, you bring a knife
00:55:53.960 to a gunfight, you're going to lose. And don't be surprised when you keep bringing guns to gunfights
00:55:59.620 and then somebody else just Andrew Wilson says we can't give in to the terrorist left I will
00:56:06.840 continue in real life appearances if they shoot me while the internet said I was going to die of
00:56:11.380 lung cancer anyway someone responded and they said the problem is as Tim Cass pointed out it's not
00:56:16.840 just you that's at risk when you do what if they miss and a bystander gets shot remember Butler
00:56:20.840 if you're going to do it get security be safe don't do it on side I understand the argument
00:56:25.320 but we must not give in i agree we just got to figure out a way to do it safely
00:56:32.840 andrew take precautions please man of course
00:56:38.840 yeah i mean i think it's easy for the internet to um you know cheer on that kind of thing but we
00:56:46.440 have to be realistic and you know they're not like charlie kirk's the one who doesn't have a
00:56:55.320 his kids don't have someone raising them now. The people on the internet cheering aren't the
00:57:02.340 ones that are going to have to deal with the consequences. It's not that we can't do this
00:57:11.340 in real life stuff, but I think they're going to need different strategies to do it.
00:57:17.740 By the way, guys, I put the link in the chat if you want to call in. If no one calls in,
00:57:22.080 And I'll just, you know, that's pretty much everything I've got to say.
00:57:24.940 But maybe I'll put it on Twitter too.
00:57:29.160 I mean, I'm sorry if I'm low energy.
00:57:33.380 I just, I don't know.
00:57:39.780 This whole thing, I just can't believe it happened, you know.
00:57:48.920 I'm kind of in shock.
00:57:52.080 You know, I, I mean, I didn't agree with him on everything, so I don't want to pretend,
00:58:05.180 you know, obviously I had my disagreements with him, but it's just weird, you know.
00:58:16.460 Also be respectful. If you guys are rude, I'll just kick you. 0.99
00:58:22.080 how's it going um we got anonymous how are you 0.99
00:58:29.080 nothing okay well pearl i'm a pessimist too it won't get better sick of people saying both
00:58:42.520 parties are the problem nope good versus evil good make mistakes but they're not evil yeah
00:58:48.540 okay they say they're they can come on how's it going hey i'm doing okay can't believe we're in
00:59:10.180 this situation it's kind of crazy um so what are your thoughts like how do you think this is going
00:59:17.460 affect things moving forward? Just like watching the news, what did you think? What went through
00:59:23.100 your mind? My initial reaction is I thought that if we had any progress towards coming together
00:59:33.560 more, we would have had the left, quote unquote, political leaders. We wouldn't have seen their
00:59:42.860 reaction so desensitized they would have actually come out and genuinely said no to any violence
00:59:53.040 and totally discredit it instead of maybe one sentence the actual physical reactions that they
01:00:01.300 had if you had any on on video like jeffries like schumer is just appalling
01:00:09.200 and i thought that we were coming to closer coming closer together on both sides of the
01:00:17.060 political aisle and since i haven't seen that my opinion um this is not a good sign to where
01:00:26.980 things may start to happen civilly civilly just amongst the people it may not be the people that
01:00:37.260 have a lot to lose. It may not be the people who have platforms, but I'm concerned. I'm still in
01:00:44.800 a state of grief myself because he was the epitome. Charlie Kirk was a man who displayed
01:00:53.820 his religious beliefs, wanted everyone to find a relationship with God. So do I, and only voiced
01:01:03.600 his opinion in the in the realm of wanting people to express their opinions to each other and not to
01:01:10.640 act out violence do you see conservatives coming together and like making a change like do you
01:01:19.720 think trump will do anything to deter this i i don't know maybe it's just i have a very pessimistic
01:01:26.380 view but i'm open to other opinions if you have a different one
01:01:29.880 do i see trump bringing the conservative party together everyone on the conservative side
01:01:41.080 is that the question i meant do you see him finding a way to stop this from happening in
01:01:46.500 the future i guess do you like do you think there's anything he could do or will do
01:01:50.980 that will deter something like this from happening again
01:01:54.120 so i have a three-pronged answer to that okay uh number one charlie kirk was at part of a campaign
01:02:08.780 but he his security was private security it was not government security right he may have x
01:02:17.540 law enforcement he may have ex-military but he was at a college so if these events or if the
01:02:28.180 the whole does it speak to america is that what the initiative is called yeah um if this is going
01:02:36.760 on at public universities the onus really falls on the security of that individual and the campus
01:02:46.780 whoever's those campuses are if it's a regional campus if it's a state campus if it's a local
01:02:54.580 community college it falls on them to do kind of like what the military does sorry but I got some
01:03:04.840 some knowledge of it you got to do a pre-screening a week out you got to know your high points you
01:03:11.800 have to know all that and do a sweep to make sure that he didn't have to not bring anything in he
01:03:18.420 just needed to walk in get in at the right time and evac so that's prong number one is security
01:03:28.880 wise. Prong to number two, to answer it, does he have the power to enact public resources,
01:03:42.760 government resources for things of this nature? It really falls on PACs. PACs are supposed to
01:03:52.420 be funding it and their own actions but it is tied to that the movement that they're supposed
01:03:59.220 to be reaching out so there's a gray area there how much are we actually supposed to be
01:04:04.580 appropriating of tax tax money right and number three do i think that he will
01:04:14.740 i in my whole heart believe that the president and i've been following and supporting since
01:04:25.000 the beginning of the golden stairs more in the back behind the scenes more than what people want
01:04:33.640 to believe without credit he does he wants this to not escalate he wants everything that he has
01:04:47.060 the ability to do to make sure that we do not falter we need to grow stronger if there's any
01:04:56.060 quotes that you guys want to take away it is if we divide our nation will fall from within
01:05:04.780 because of division
01:05:07.140 it's the best wisdom that i could i could sum it sum up my three-part answer yeah good answer
01:05:17.420 um so i know that you said trump
01:05:23.460 would want to reduce this is there anything he can really do like how do you stop 0.80
01:05:30.760 crazy lunatics that have nothing to lose from doing this again
01:05:34.200 uh twofold number one uh you have to know who your principal is 0.97
01:05:45.280 layman's terms that to stop these actions from happen again it will there's no black and white
01:05:57.560 answer that will fit every single situation every single environment and topic that you're going to
01:06:04.160 cover so your principle in layman terms means is who is the person that you are protecting
01:06:11.660 and is it in a political sphere is a dating sphere is it about health care is it about
01:06:21.680 um you know political divisive topics it can cover a different range versus just your standard
01:06:30.080 are you actually a government official now you have a fiduciary duty you have a responsibility
01:06:36.960 if you are acting in an official capacity to be protected and we have already dedicated resources
01:06:45.000 to do that so can he he can with going back to my first point he can with political officials
01:06:57.500 but if it comes down to the average person or amongst people that's why our founding fathers
01:07:09.980 created our inalienable rights it's not given to us by government therefore government cannot
01:07:20.460 take these rights away all men and women well thanks for calling and I'm
01:07:29.040 gonna go on to the next caller if you want to keep me by or or just let me
01:07:33.700 know I'll stay back okay I'm actually disappointed with Brian Atlas whatever
01:07:39.780 and Andrew Wilson for reacting to Charlie Kirkson alive in like feminists
01:07:43.620 irrationally and blaming what do you mean by that I didn't I didn't see what
01:07:47.880 that you did, but it's just a sad. I know I got so many texts yesterday from like
01:07:57.960 all these people I know. They're just like, you know, stay safe, that kind of thing. I'm not as
01:08:06.400 big as them, so I don't think I'm really at as much of a risk. I'm not as political. They talk
01:08:12.280 about war you know but um heartbreaking day the world feels upside down i may not agree with
01:08:17.900 anything but i admire your courage and your voice much love from portugal keep speaking big kiss
01:08:22.440 um thank you probably you should try a diverse divine liturgy this sunday all the psalms say
01:08:28.900 come and see and we all might feel a sense of peace okay let me keep going
01:08:42.280 Let's see.
01:08:50.840 I do give priority to people with their cameras on, so people in the back if you have your
01:08:55.280 cameras on.
01:08:56.280 You don't have to, but I do give priority.
01:09:12.280 um
01:09:24.120 well most phones have cameras guys you can like turn it on that's okay um hey
01:09:31.080 uh jacob you gotta i don't like background noise we're gonna marcus
01:09:36.520 hello hey marcus how are you i'm fine can you hear me
01:09:40.280 um yeah i can hear you what are your thoughts on the on the topic maybe if you went through
01:09:48.520 what you thought when you heard the news and just any comments you have go ahead okay
01:09:54.280 so first of all i'm calling from germany my english is not the best apologize in advance
01:09:59.540 um it's a very tragic day it was very horrifying to me and for me the most shocking thing is as
01:10:08.180 somebody who's from Germany um that the word Nazi is being thrown around like it doesn't mean
01:10:14.000 anything anymore for example I'm 28 years old and for example when I'm when I'm playing online
01:10:22.380 since since I was a teenager I've been called a Nazi just for being German you know and
01:10:28.820 And it's crazy to me that this term, like I said, completely lost its meaning and it justifies their violence.
01:10:40.340 So you basically, they think you're not a human because they genuinely believe just because you have conservative thoughts and opinions that you're the same as,
01:10:56.680 i don't know if i can say that same as hitler for example no so um i think it's just getting worse
01:11:04.640 it won't get any better because like i said even you know mainstream news they keep throwing the
01:11:12.440 word fascist and nazi around and you know you have actual fascists fascists and nazis they all exist
01:11:20.820 and they throw them all into the same bucket i don't know if this is the right um term to say
01:11:28.420 that you know and it's really really shocking and something i've always admired of um the united
01:11:34.500 states um their patriotism your your guys patriotism is something that i really appreciate
01:11:39.620 and i like and it has been something that is really inspiring to me that you know you people
01:11:45.460 are very proud of your country it's something that it's really hard or has been very hard here
01:11:51.700 in germany because of our past and the guilt that the people have and now it's really saddening to
01:11:58.820 me as a german to see you know americans you know they they basically have to fight for their basic
01:12:06.580 conservative views and patriotism and this is something that is pretty new or has been going
01:12:13.780 on for some years now but it's still a very new thing that even as an american you have to be
01:12:19.060 afraid to show your appreciation towards your own country and this is really saddening and
01:12:25.860 as you can see it led to murder because the shooter generally thought and those who celebrate
01:12:32.100 charlie kirk's death they genuinely think that he's a nazi even though he has very moderate
01:12:37.460 and it's like they say they say it enough times people believe i've learned this in media it's
01:12:42.980 like you can correct something 10 times but if they just say it first and louder it's like it
01:12:49.860 doesn't matter they'll just keep saying it that's crazy thing that's especially um people that are
01:12:56.900 not mentally well they start to believe that and so i believe that any conservative um content
01:13:06.180 creator or people like you for example i'm not really sure if open air um exhibitions
01:13:14.660 are a good idea idea in the future so i don't know the question is when will be the next attack
01:13:22.820 because this is what they believe in so it's scary i think i think most youtubers are going
01:13:30.260 to take precautions if they do it again i think some people are going to just opt out some are
01:13:34.820 going to take precautions uh thanks for calling in i'm going to move on to the next caller thank
01:13:39.780 you for having me thank you thank you all right we got fish hey fish how are you doing all right
01:13:47.780 can you hear me yeah so what are your thoughts on the topic um it can be anything that just comes
01:13:55.780 to your mind i'm listening to the stream go ahead so the um the labor market statistics came out
01:14:02.420 like right before this and it's a feedback loop of like if you can't get a
01:14:08.840 job then you can't buy goods then you can't get hired for a job um so I'm kind
01:14:15.680 of like that is the impetus for this whole situation I don't really have me
01:14:21.380 I could do a complex analysis the whole situation but I don't really feel like
01:14:24.200 it okay so it's because like people are shooting people because they can't get a
01:14:31.160 job um no it's because it's because the labor market backs money printing and there's a weak
01:14:37.240 labor market right now okay so there's a lot of like layoffs and like corporate um cuts and
01:14:46.280 shit like that oh so people are crashing out yeah basically yeah that makes sense okay yeah that 0.50
01:14:53.640 was about all i had to say about that okay well thanks for calling in fish cool uh what's your 0.99
01:15:01.080 take on israel and gaza i don't have an opinion um tim pool and alex stein canceled their college tour
01:15:10.920 i'm i'm like when it comes to israel and gaza i don't know enough about war and war strategy
01:15:20.120 um candace exposes bridgette mccrone so even candace kind of proves what i'm talking about 0.96
01:15:29.400 with like there being no free speech women get to avoid accountability for free speech but you know 1.00
01:15:36.140 candace marries rich and now her husband's paying for her lawsuits you know what i mean 0.99
01:15:42.140 and that's like the worst hill to die on just i mean i just don't care if some 70 year old that's
01:15:48.940 almost dead has been pretending to be a man it's not that i'm not messing with the jays it's i don't
01:15:55.280 know. Do you want to like, okay. I could watch these conspiracy theory videos and come like
01:16:02.100 when I talk to you guys, I like to talk about what I know from experience and just personal
01:16:07.640 experience first. I could watch some conspiracy videos about, you know, some bullshit and maybe 0.96
01:16:15.460 it's true, but I'm not going to know. I'm just going to know this is the video that they sent, 0.97
01:16:20.440 you know, uh, what would make me not black-pilled?
01:16:32.100 It's a good question. I don't know. I think I would have to see, like, I would have to see some
01:16:40.780 of the trends change. So, like, I would have to see people getting less divisive. I would have
01:16:48.540 to see families coming together. I would have to like, I would have to see things going in a
01:16:54.180 different direction. You know, you could say personal experience is limited. That's totally
01:17:05.360 true. But I do think I have a different perspective being that I interviewed a thousand
01:17:10.080 people. Like, I think I've talked to more people in a, like that some people do by the time they're
01:17:15.220 50. I'm just being honest here. Um, but you're right. It is limited. And you know, I will
01:17:22.540 say, I don't know what I don't know. Uh, Gigi from Israel. Hey Pearl. How's it going?
01:17:45.220 um what are your thoughts on the on the topic like what did you have to say about first of all
01:17:50.180 obviously the beforehand tragic loss unbelievable loss especially for us israel is one of the only
01:18:00.740 supporters like the real top supporter we have we had among also amongst conservatives nowadays
01:18:07.540 after what we see going on with a lot of conservatives nowadays and regarding the general issue
01:18:15.900 what i'm what i want to convey is something that correlates also to lots of your contents
01:18:23.160 regarding men nowadays and i think that although nowadays even if right or conservative ruling
01:18:32.300 party as as we as currently there is in the states is also specifically in israel the people
01:18:37.820 themselves are not doing anything to to support the conservative or right-wing agenda they simply
01:18:47.500 go to to the to the to to vote we chose our ruling party and then they just all day
01:18:54.700 i'm not saying i'm acting in as a way of some sort of uh of course not violence or something but 1.00
01:19:02.220 They just bitch, they vote and bitch, that's it. 1.00
01:19:04.760 They don't act, as in they don't get any sort of social voice. 1.00
01:19:13.360 They just want to do the easy thing, to vote.
01:19:18.100 And for example, in the States, from my point of view,
01:19:20.660 it is the situation is so bad as it is right now
01:19:23.740 regarding the liberalism and wokeism.
01:19:27.660 And I think it's a product of the right wing
01:19:31.000 conservatives in the states and it's the same exactly the same here that they just don't they
01:19:35.960 just sit and complain and you don't have any sort of social uh feeling of of uh conservatism or
01:19:45.080 right-wingism and sort of sort of what i'm saying is that the the right and the conservatives let
01:19:52.440 it become that way although although the ruling parties are currently conservative and right
01:19:57.400 so that's my thought lots of talking lots of social media um complaining and not a lot of
01:20:05.640 i don't know some sort of like action yeah i totally agree i agree thanks for calling in
01:20:12.540 thank you yeah that's that's what i mean i mean it's
01:20:18.960 oh my gosh
01:20:24.100 i don't think this will lead to a civil war i don't think much will change you know
01:20:34.980 i mean that girl got stabbed on the bus didn't really do anything
01:20:40.840 ultimo mantis hello thank you for having me on your little podcast thanks what are your thoughts
01:21:01.080 on the topic my thoughts on the topic is people have a tendency to choose violence instead of
01:21:07.040 talking more frequently in general uh in instead of actually solving problems the
01:21:15.440 individual is held in a higher regard than society as a whole if we look back
01:21:23.760 maybe 40 years in the 80s yeah i know it feels weird because 40 years we think 60s but in the
01:21:31.200 in the 80s the whole society was more yeah people talked people knew their neighbors
01:21:39.840 and saw they solved problems by communicating and now as soon as somebody feels offended
01:21:46.960 there goes the knife there or some other type of weapon what like why has it has gotten to this
01:21:58.160 point what where did it go wrong
01:22:03.440 yeah i mean i think social media has made it worse what what do you how do you think it got
01:22:08.000 to this point uh social media most certainly has a part in it uh don't get me uh don't get me wrong
01:22:15.600 because we basically we only see the best of people's lives on social media so that
01:22:22.880 automatically creates envy and envy is a big driving force in irrational decisions
01:22:30.080 yeah totally uh thanks for calling in thank you for having me okay i don't believe this to be a
01:22:38.540 hunt on youtubers trump is extremely stigmatized by the left and by proxy charlie kirk was as well
01:22:43.480 i don't believe youtubers are at more of a risk um i actually agree with you that's why i was
01:22:48.960 trying to say earlier but i'm not as political but the people that i think would be kind of
01:22:57.280 worried for would be like crowder myron nick uh i don't know though nick they went after him
01:23:06.000 Alex Jones. Did they do an assassination attempt on Alex Jones? I don't remember that,
01:23:23.040 but they legally went after him. I don't know. You know, I have just met so many people that
01:23:28.380 have had their lives destroyed by this stuff. Oh, actually, no. Andrew Tate had someone show
01:23:35.020 to his house with a knife and apparently it like messed his security card up i mean
01:23:42.460 i've had people show up to my house um before yeah
01:23:54.060 let's see
01:23:57.260 they oh you're right they did assassinate an alex jones worker
01:24:01.580 Oh, I forgot about that.
01:24:07.560 This was a while ago, someone showing up.
01:24:10.140 It wasn't, I mean, it wasn't like violent or anything.
01:24:15.600 No, no, it wasn't violent.
01:24:17.160 So it was just, how do I put it?
01:24:18.840 Like, it wasn't violent.
01:24:24.100 It was scary because I didn't know why he was there.
01:24:26.520 But when you demonize another side calling them Hitler, these are the responses you get from unhinged people on the left.
01:24:34.900 Stay strapped.
01:24:38.320 Some people are saying he's not dead.
01:24:40.860 Yeah, okay.
01:24:45.540 Okay, guys, I'm going to log off for a bit.
01:24:49.680 But I just thought I'd, if there's updates on this, I think I'm really just going to focus on this story.
01:24:56.520 because I just feel weird talking about other stuff.
01:25:01.080 It just seems.
01:25:07.640 Myron and Crowder are not in the league with Nick and AJ lower tier
01:25:11.160 in different domain.
01:25:13.040 I don't know.
01:25:17.160 I mean, it's Tim Pool.
01:25:20.080 I don't know why.
01:25:20.820 I just couldn't really see people coming for Tim Pool.
01:25:24.400 I don't know.
01:25:25.280 All right, guys, like the video, subscribe, and I'll see you next time.