Pearl - September 11, 2025


Charlie Kirk Shooter Image Released: Live Updates


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00:00:01.000 What up, guys? Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily. Today we're talking about
00:00:07.600 the Charlie Kirk updates. I mean, this has just been such a weird day. I feel like all
00:00:15.740 of conservative media is just in shock. And the thing about Charlie Kirk is I think there's
00:00:26.400 people that you meet or you see working and you can just tell that they were like born to do
00:00:35.000 something. Like when I watched Charlie Kirk debate or I watched him do like politics a couple of
00:00:43.200 years ago, I went to one of his events and they were trying to target my dad as a donor. So I spent
00:00:48.460 not as much time with him, but a good amount of time with like his right hand man. I think his
00:00:54.320 name's like Ryan. This is like five years ago. And I don't know how to describe it, but sometimes
00:01:06.500 you see somebody doing something and you just know they're born to do it. I always felt that
00:01:12.280 way about right-wing media. When I came in here, I just felt like I would be doing this forever.
00:01:19.060 And Charlie Kirk was somebody when you watched him speak and you watched him debate.
00:01:24.320 yes there were things you might have disagreed with him on i mean yes there's even stuff i
00:01:28.880 didn't agree with him on but he was somebody when you watch you knew that he was like born to do
00:01:35.920 that and i used to love watching i mean guys when i was um in school my personality it's very
00:01:44.560 naturally left like it's very um i always say if i didn't have a conservative dad and it wasn't for
00:01:50.400 conservative media i'd probably be like a hippie in a van somewhere because i'm just very like open
00:01:57.520 um and really his content candace owens charlotte like back in the day everything was left like
00:02:07.360 everything shoved down our throat and school was left um you go to college i had you know trans
00:02:13.040 people in my dorms in college. Um, and there were some ideas that like I was maybe kind of
00:02:19.980 susceptible to, um, but I never went too far down like the left rabbit hole because of people like
00:02:26.040 him. Um, I mean, people in my personal life too, but I don't know. There was just something about
00:02:34.380 the fact that Charlie was obviously like going places in life.
00:02:38.340 But the problem that you get in media, and I can kind of speak to experiencing this
00:02:47.620 and also witnessing other like YouTubers and media personalities.
00:02:54.860 In life, usually other people have like canon events. So
00:02:59.740 if you guys talk bad at work or say something too conservative, there's like a harsh consequence.
00:03:06.900 you might lose your job you might get you know pulled into hr and um
00:03:15.620 you know that's when people stop talking but the problem in media is you don't really have those
00:03:21.700 and in fact you know the more harsh you are the more brazen the less consequences you have you
00:03:27.860 You go viral, you get clicks.
00:03:32.880 And I don't think YouTubers, we often think about how much danger we're in
00:03:41.120 because day to day you don't really experience it.
00:03:43.340 You mostly talk to like a camera and that sort of thing.
00:03:45.880 um but what you realize is this is kind of blackpilling because um
00:03:57.020 there really is not freedom of speech in this country um i know we always say that like
00:04:03.660 you can say whatever you want but is it really freedom of speech if people can sue you for
00:04:10.120 millions of dollars and ruin your livelihood like Alex Jones? Is it really freedom of speech
00:04:16.680 if you have to live in fear of being shot like Charlie Kirk? Is it really freedom of speech
00:04:24.040 if the consequences are so severe you have to pay with your life and your livelihood?
00:04:29.160 This year I watched Trump almost get shot. I watched an assassination attempt on Nick Fuentes.
00:04:34.720 I saw Tommy Robinson get thrown in jail. I'm now seeing Charlie Kirk die.
00:04:42.380 And it's really blackpilling because it's like, who's next?
00:04:47.820 I hate that I have to be blackpilled. I hate being a pessimist. It's much easier to sell
00:04:55.540 hope to say we're going to fight back. But I think if I'm being honest, I don't see this
00:05:03.000 improving in my lifetime, or at least not in the next 10 years. And I think it's because
00:05:09.720 I've watched this rhetoric for 10 years and I've only seen it get worse. I haven't seen it really
00:05:16.580 improve. Like 10 years ago, I would watch these debates and I just didn't, I didn't see,
00:05:26.360 I don't think it was normal for people to have a fear of getting shot.
00:05:33.000 okay so we're going to go over some of the updates that i've seen on twitter
00:05:42.060 and then i'll kind of give my thoughts as we're going through them
00:05:46.740 um i think i'm going to play some of his old videos first just in like
00:05:51.800 memory or whatever and you know what's even more blackpilling
00:05:57.260 seeing people I like and just like there'll be people that I like as people day to day they're
00:06:03.680 nice people they're kind they're respectful and just like watching and listening to them
00:06:08.200 make light of his death
00:06:13.180 because he had a difference in opinion it's like what is wrong with people
00:06:20.740 um like i mean people were saying that he deserved this because he was pro-gun laws
00:06:32.320 and and i just keep thinking i'm like okay you guys might have had different strategies to reduce
00:06:38.860 crime but that doesn't mean it's you know like that one liberal got attacked on the street with
00:06:45.540 his girlfriend and like stabbed by a homeless person in front of her like last year and it
00:06:51.300 turned out i think he was a blm activist or some bullshit i would never wish that upon anybody
00:07:02.860 you know just because he had a different strategy people generally want the same
00:07:11.640 things like no one wants to live in a crime-ridden society nobody wants to live in
00:07:23.320 people want in general want to see people do well people want to make money people
00:07:27.800 don't want to pay taxes um and you know people don't want to fight in a war
00:07:34.840 but people just have different strategies to get to what most people agree that we want
00:07:42.760 um and now there's just such incentive um
00:07:50.440 to really i mean kill people for clout in a way
00:07:59.520 um and the thing is you kind of make a deal with the devil in a way
00:08:04.660 when you do this kind of work.
00:08:07.660 And the deal is you get internet fame,
00:08:13.260 you get good work hours, you make a lot of money,
00:08:15.500 but the cost is your safety and your security forever.
00:08:21.280 And I was talking behind the scenes,
00:08:23.460 like I know a lot of big YouTubers behind the scenes
00:08:26.580 in the space.
00:08:30.740 And
00:08:31.020 a lot of, I mean, this is going to change the way we do things forever. I know there's a lot
00:08:44.500 of talk on, you know, that people are still going to do the debates and we're going to go through
00:08:49.840 that. But YouTubers now forever and right-wing political commentary people are going to be
00:08:57.540 looking over their shoulder. And I don't think you guys realize, like if I go into a place and
00:09:04.320 I'm not, I'm not trying to make, they have it way worse. I know people that are so political that
00:09:09.120 they just can't live normal lives anymore. And the people that do, that make it really easy.
00:09:16.100 I just, I don't see this stopping sadly.
00:09:27.540 sadly okay so let me let me do this let me share my screen i'm just in a weird i've been
00:09:36.000 in such a like weird place for the last day um okay charlie kirk didn't talk about free speech
00:09:45.060 he lived it he failed faced protesters hecklers walkouts and he kept showing up with the same
00:09:49.800 message debate me he was killed during the america comeback tour in utah state valley
00:09:54.680 targeting. The American way of life means you follow the law, you work hard, you honor God,
00:10:07.340 you raise your kids with strong values, and you work to create a civil society. The American way
00:10:14.760 of life means you speak your mind without retribution, without being kicked off social
00:10:19.760 media by a self-righteous censor in Silicon Valley. It means you can freely practice your
00:10:25.140 religion and that church is more essential than a casino. To all the Gen Zers watching this
00:10:32.160 convention on TikTok right now, I have a message just for you. You don't have to stay poor. You
00:10:38.240 don't have to accept being worse off than your parents. You don't have to feel aimless and
00:10:42.600 unhappy. You don't have to support leaders who lied to you and took advantage of you for your
00:10:47.940 vote. America's future is a series of choices. Our current state of slow motion, national decline
00:10:57.680 is a choice. We together are going to do the work to save America.
00:11:06.880 It's just so sad.
00:11:11.400 I know they're saying the Democrats killed him. Some people are saying Mossad. I can't know
00:11:17.840 until all the facts came out tim pool says no more public appearances um i said yesterday i was kind
00:11:25.620 of emotional um that i'm done with street interviews for the year i don't know if i am or
00:11:31.440 i'm not i have to i have to think about it because i mean the challenge you get as a youtuber and i'm
00:11:38.060 just being honest, especially for me. I mean, it's like, you know, I've had boy, like my boyfriend
00:11:51.720 got doxxed because of me, you know, it's like, you know, my mom got doxxed, our address got
00:11:57.220 and it's like, you don't, the challenge you get is you love this line of work, but people in your
00:12:05.660 life pay for it because of lunatics on the internet and you want to speak out against
00:12:12.060 some of the atrocities that are going on and i'm always going to do it right but
00:12:18.780 it's tough when you know the people around you are worried about you
00:12:27.340 and that's what they say they say you need to fight right but what does fighting look like you know
00:12:35.660 I mean, it's like Spider-Man. If they can get you, they can get your family.
00:12:50.340 And, you know, I think I have this ability to see a lot of different points of view.
00:12:56.200 And someone's saying, like, you know, because I keep hearing, and it's kind of bullshit,
00:13:00.220 that because he supported like the Gaza side in the war that he deserved to be attacked. And I'm
00:13:06.820 just like, that doesn't, I don't think, you know, there are people that believe different things
00:13:16.220 about the war. And I want to say, I think both sides do not want war. They want peace in the
00:13:23.740 long-term. They just have different strategies and beliefs of how to get there.
00:13:33.840 Yeah. So we'll, we'll continue the next tweet I wanted to go over was,
00:13:39.720 I guess somebody asked Charlie what he would say if he had like a day to live
00:13:43.560 or to someone. Oh, shoot.
00:13:47.080 I'm dying from a gunshot wound.
00:13:58.520 What would you actually want to tell me if I have 30 seconds left to live?
00:14:01.360 In 30 seconds, you're about to meet eternal judgment.
00:14:04.100 And so you've got 10 seconds left, you're dying from a gunshot wound.
00:14:07.080 And there's only one way that you can get bailed out of that.
00:14:09.260 It's not all the good things you did or the moral scorecard.
00:14:11.660 It's whether or not you have Jesus Christ as your Lord.
00:14:13.860 how do you want to die i want to be i want to be remembered for for courage for my faith
00:14:24.180 that would be the most important most important thing
00:14:30.260 god it's just so sad
00:14:34.660 i don't know i i think
00:14:35.860 we are going to remember this is just one of those moments everybody is going to remember
00:14:44.420 so this is so after charlie kirk got shot um there's they've released the dispatcher audio
00:14:52.340 and we'll go through the um we will go through the picture of the guy that was released to hold on
00:15:01.940 UVU by the Samson reported one individual that was shot unknown where the shooter went.
00:15:08.500 UVU in Orem has had an active shooter at a Charlie Kirk event. We're getting several calls. We're
00:15:14.740 trying to get more information. 418 copy. How many injured do we have?
00:15:19.620 It's just one person. Sounds like maybe another individual in the car. We're not
00:15:26.420 sure if they're a patient or if they're just trying to get out of the area.
00:15:29.860 We do have officers following the victim to Tampadabas Hospital.
00:15:33.860 Just east of the library, he's wearing jeans, black shirt, black mask, long rifle.
00:15:41.860 Coming to UVU, there was one shot.
00:15:46.860 We are staging at the front of the school by the roundabout.
00:15:52.860 He's on top of the building on the far north side, just east of the library,
00:15:57.860 Wearing jeans, black shirt, black vest.
00:16:00.920 Copy.
00:16:01.420 Can you confirm with PD?
00:16:02.720 Do they have the shooter in custody?
00:16:05.120 Your DPS is requesting to try and get that motorcycle stopped.
00:16:08.680 It might be a suspect in that shooting.
00:16:10.100 What was your traffic?
00:16:11.340 It's possibly a suspect from the shooting.
00:16:13.460 We could try and get that vehicle stopped.
00:16:15.100 Okay.
00:16:15.620 So that's the dispatch.
00:16:18.420 Charlie Kirk was a big supporter of Israel
00:16:20.540 and still started to question the events of October 7th.
00:16:23.760 Jewish money funding university and Israel's methodology.
00:16:26.920 don't talk about Israel and you'll be fine. I don't know if I have to be honest, when I hear
00:16:36.800 this stuff, it always sounds a little bit conspiracy theory. It's possible. I don't know.
00:16:43.060 JFK was against Israel's nuclear demonia project and put pressure on them about it and started to
00:16:48.560 question their methodology. I don't know. I don't think it's always Israel. Sometimes I think it's
00:16:54.620 just like a crazy, you know, a crazy person because he would go after LGBTQ and they're
00:17:00.760 saying now, and I'm going to read this in a bit, that there was trans, um, stuff on the bullet,
00:17:06.700 like trans messaging. There's a lot of mentally ill people in the trans community. Um,
00:17:13.980 and if you say enough stuff, so Fox news, digital retraces the suspect's possible escape
00:17:24.460 route from the rooftop at utah valley university where charlie kirk was assassinated
00:17:32.300 okay
00:17:54.460 Thank you.
00:18:24.460 Okay, so that's probably the route that they're thinking he took.
00:18:54.460 how would i watch this already um
00:19:02.140 okay so oh wait no let me go back
00:19:14.540 i was combing um i was coming through hours of footage last night and came across this a woman
00:19:19.180 in her vehicle who was an attendee at charlie kirk's event said she got tickets but there was
00:19:23.180 no one there checking tickets anyone could walk in she said there was no security at all can
00:19:27.980 someone who's been to charlie kirk's events let me know if this is common why sell tickets if you're
00:19:31.740 going to let everyone in this could be key in addition she claims she was front center to charlie
00:19:36.380 and heard her shot right in front of her implying that it came from charlie's left however there's
00:19:41.180 no evidence that supports a shot from that direction that i can find as well many walls
00:19:45.980 and structures were between her and a reported shooter on a building behind her which could
00:19:49.660 explain why the shot sounded like it came from right behind her. So this is a woman basically
00:19:56.220 saying there's no security at these events. And that's the other thing. Even, I was thinking
00:20:01.260 about stuff I've done in the past. I mean, there was times when I would go to, I would go out in
00:20:11.280 London with a tripod. And I mean, they're far more political than me. So it's a way, you know,
00:20:18.880 I'm not even trying to make the comparison, but you know, there were times where I would take a
00:20:25.400 tripod and it would just be me doing street interviews. And I was even thinking how dumb
00:20:30.280 that was. I'm like, and I would have these like super controversial signs, like abortion is a cop
00:20:35.520 out and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Um, um, I just never, I never would have thought something
00:20:48.160 like this would happen pasty says there's unedited videos on twitter showing two man
00:20:52.020 standing really close to charlie kirk doing funny hand gestures right before he was hit
00:20:56.820 this seems to be a pro hit and not just from some random crazy person
00:21:00.360 i i did see the hand gestures i'm not fully convinced but i mean we'll watch it and we can
00:21:08.760 side together point that way on the camera well there was no security they let i bought i mean
00:21:28.120 i got tickets and they didn't even take the tickets to get us in they just let everybody
00:21:32.440 in there. So there was no, there was no, no police, no, no, um, I walked in with tripods
00:21:38.900 sticking out of my backpack. No problem. I know there was no, no security at all. That's
00:21:45.480 what makes me really mad. And then I, I looked at the ticket, got the tickets and they didn't
00:21:49.500 even take our tickets. Yeah. We saw the whole thing. Please tell me what. I just saw, we
00:21:57.320 just saw him up there talking and then I heard the gunshot and then we saw him fall.
00:22:02.440 message. You know what? It came out of my right. I was right in the center on the top level and it
00:22:06.340 came out the right side. Okay. So there are accounts saying they may have identified the
00:22:22.900 shooter. There is a picture of him. It's on the thumbnail that's being released. Multiple accounts
00:22:27.720 reporting that they may have identified the charlie kirk shooter 4chan intel identified suspect sky
00:22:33.560 valdez has a soundcloud with a track that was uploaded a month ago titled charlie kirk dead
00:22:39.880 at 31 the deleted track and deleted the track and changed his location to leave me alone lives in utah
00:22:52.920 can i play this what the hell
00:22:57.720 holy shit
00:23:01.660 oh now they're saying this wasn't him
00:23:14.700 I'm the original poster of the song
00:23:18.660 and I would like to share that it is
00:23:19.960 a psyop and it's purely coincidental
00:23:22.640 I made the track back in March after
00:23:24.260 a dream I had I thought it would
00:23:26.240 make an odd title thinking nothing of it the man was shot an hour from my place of residence and
00:23:31.420 I woke up to my phone being blown up regarding the situation I've been in nothing but panic
00:23:35.780 because I've had numerous threats sent to me regarding the death in Utah tracks
00:23:39.640 and that's because the local scene is kind of cheeks
00:23:43.400 okay well maybe this person isn't it
00:23:50.280 this person looks like they have a smaller jaw
00:23:55.480 than this person
00:23:56.440 okay
00:23:58.240 okay so here's a video
00:24:05.220 of the
00:24:06.700 shooter on the
00:24:09.280 rooftop
00:24:09.700 you would think that so there's somebody on the roof right there just saying sure he just ran
00:24:27.760 from uh over where's my finger well from over there ran in
00:24:33.500 i think what happens also is you never think this is going to happen to you and security is so
00:24:53.140 expensive so it's like i mean i've kind of had this thought like my first year at carnival i
00:24:59.200 did street interviews I didn't have any security nothing I just brought a camera person and the
00:25:05.500 vibe on those interviews is so much better because you know I mean people are kind of on guard when
00:25:13.120 they see with like a bunch of security and all this stuff and everyone watch and you get way
00:25:17.100 better interviews you know when it's a bit more chill and the second year I brought security
00:25:24.100 because i was just a little more well-known and it was i mean it's so expensive so it's like if
00:25:30.260 every event you have to pay an extra 50k for security and nothing's really happened um
00:25:37.940 you know it's kind of like how much do you want to spend on each event
00:25:41.940 because you don't need security until you need it you know what i mean freedom
00:25:45.700 before we begin let me express the horror and grief so many americans at the heinous
00:25:55.380 assassination of charlie kirk have felt charlie was a giant of his generation a champion of liberty
00:26:04.780 and an inspiration to millions and millions of people our prayers are with his wonderful wife
00:26:12.620 eric and his beautiful children fantastic people they are we miss him greatly yet i have no doubt
00:26:21.740 that charlie's voice and the courage he put into the hearts of countless people especially young
00:26:28.780 people will live on i'm pleased to announce that i will soon be awarding charlie kirk posthumously
00:26:36.060 the presidential medal of freedom the date of the ceremony will be announced and i can only
00:26:43.160 guarantee you one thing that we will have a very big crowd very very big
00:26:47.780 okay here we got
00:26:55.340 we have images of this so the headline came at the end there dana we have images of the suspect
00:27:05.180 that after they gave us a number of details that we were not privy to prior so they say a number
00:27:12.660 of individuals question they've been released they asked for privacy for them at 11 52 a.m utah time
00:27:18.580 they tracked the suspect to that building they later after the shooting tracked him jumping off
00:27:25.620 the building fleeing into a neighborhood and they're asking neighbors in that area if they
00:27:31.900 have doorbell cameras to turn over anything that may produce an image. What they didn't say is
00:27:37.720 whether or not he ran there on foot or drove a car. But later they said, we do have good video
00:27:43.540 of this individual. We are confident in our abilities. And with regard to that, they say
00:27:48.380 they have footwear prints. So perhaps he was on foot and also palm prints. And they asked for any
00:27:57.340 video and images tipped to the website there. This is a bolt-action rifle. It is manually operated,
00:28:05.900 it is extremely accurate, and according to a lot of gun experts, it has fewer moving parts,
00:28:14.540 which would give the killer an opportunity to take a more accurate shot.
00:28:21.100 And based on the graphic images that the world saw yesterday afternoon,
00:28:27.340 That shot was a kill shot.
00:28:31.520 It took one, and Charlie Kirk barely had a chance of survival.
00:28:46.440 Okay, Stephen Crowder also posted updates.
00:28:50.340 We're going to go through those.
00:28:57.340 All right. This morning, my team received an email from an officer at ATF. The email included
00:29:15.640 a screenshot from what appears to be an internal message describing a weapon and cartridges located
00:29:20.600 by an ATF and other law enforcement near the scene of the Charlie Kirk shooting at Utah Valley
00:29:25.740 State University. On September 10th at approximately 12.24 p.m., conservative political
00:29:31.680 influencer Charlie Kirk was shot and killed at the Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah.
00:29:36.500 Mr. Kirk was speaking at the university as a part of the American Comeback Tour. Multiple SLC
00:29:42.600 won, and three agents responded immediately. The suspect fired one shot from an elevated position
00:29:48.360 on a rooftop in an adjacent building on campus, and the surveillance video shows the suspect
00:29:53.020 jumping off and fleeing the area on foot, ATF and other law enforcement located in an older model
00:29:58.940 imported a Mauser .30-06 caliber bolt action rifle wrapped in a towel in a wooded area near
00:30:07.440 the campus. The location of the firearm appears to match the suspect's route of travel. The spent
00:30:15.500 cartridge was still chambered in addition to three unspent rounds at the top Fed magazine. All
00:30:22.300 cartridges have engraved wording on them expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology.
00:30:28.760 An emergency trace has been submitted and ATF SLC is working leads generated by the trace. The
00:30:34.260 firearm and ammunition have been taken by the FBI for DNA analysis and fingerprint impressions.
00:30:39.760 Upon completion of forensics, the firearm will be disassembled for additional imposter importer
00:30:46.620 information. Multiple people of interest have contacted or detained because of eyewitness
00:30:51.280 testimony and review of video footage, but the primary suspect is yet to be identified. ATF is
00:30:57.120 assisting the investigation with multiple other federal, state, and local partners. And the case
00:31:03.160 is co-led by the FBI and Utah SBI. And some people are skeptical of this. Some people are saying,
00:31:17.880 I mean, I know, like, the go-to is always Israel, like, that's always what they're going to say.
00:31:24.960 Personally, I'm just a little bit of a skeptic when it comes to that stuff.
00:31:29.580 Pearl, when are we going on a date?
00:31:36.860 This is, like, a memorial stream.
00:31:39.000 This is not, this is not the time.
00:31:42.400 Do you know what I mean?
00:31:42.920 It's, like, I'm taken anyway, but it's, like,
00:31:47.880 okay. Um, okay. Mario knew, no, Mario now fall, um, broke down how Charlie Kirk's shooting went
00:32:07.980 down. Charlie Kirk's murder at Utah Valley State University wasn't a close range ambush. It was a
00:32:14.060 sniper style hit from afar with security guards shielding him from the crowd but powerless against
00:32:18.900 rooftop shooters. CNN pieced it together using aerial footage, eyewitness videos, and official
00:32:25.040 timelines. The event kicked off around noon yesterday in UVU's busting courtyard. Kirk 31
00:32:30.720 was on stage under the American Comeback banner fielding questions on mass shootings to a crowd
00:32:36.260 of 2 000 to 3 000 students security six campus officers total formed a loose barrier between
00:32:43.860 kirk and the audience with no bag checks or metal detectors protesters had cleared been cleared from
00:32:50.580 a nearby roof but that didn't stop the gunmen mid response to a decade of shooting shootings queries
00:32:56.900 a single rifle crack echoed 200 yards away and a rooftop uh perch overlooking the stage kirk's
00:33:03.460 dragged to the waiting car, but it was two ladies pronounced dead en route to the hospital.
00:33:07.480 Authorities say the shooter in dark clothing likely used a scoped rifle for the precise
00:33:11.720 neck shot, exploiting the open layout. The man hunts sweeping buildings and neighborhoods,
00:33:17.300 but the suspects ghosted. In a nation of edge, one rooftop vantage turned debate into death.
00:33:23.520 Could tighter checks have saved him? Okay, let's watch the video.
00:33:27.080 the kickoff for charlie kirk's 14 city tour was here in orem utah about 40 miles away from salt
00:33:35.100 lake city at utah valley university thousands of people mainly students were gathering in a large
00:33:42.380 open courtyard minutes before the shooting video from kirk's own x account shows an open space
00:33:49.600 and a barrier between the tent and the students with multiple security guards standing at the
00:33:54.980 defense line. Police say there were six campus police officers there as well.
00:34:01.660 Kirk was a rock star among young conservatives largely because of events like this,
00:34:07.240 meeting college students up close on campuses across the country. Police say roughly 3,000
00:34:12.800 people showed up for this one, all watching and listening as it happened. Kirk was answering a
00:34:19.160 question about mass shootings. Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass
00:34:23.660 shooters over the last 10 years too many okay now five is a lot right i'm gonna give you
00:34:34.880 some credit do you know how many mass shooters there have been in america over the last 10
00:34:40.580 years counting or not counting gang violence okay i don't i don't know if it's gonna
00:34:45.200 Kirk is rushing good. I was like, I didn't want to show him getting shot on YouTube into an SUV
00:34:54.480 and taken to the hospital. Panic crowds ran as police jumped in. And as the advised UVU in Orem
00:35:02.480 has had an active shooter at the Charlie Kirk event. We're getting several calls. We're trying
00:35:07.220 to get more information. In the scramble after Kirk was shot, video taken from inside a building
00:35:13.060 captures what appears to be someone running across a rooftop. That rooftop is this building called
00:35:19.720 the Lossie Center, less than 200 yards away from the spot where Kirk was hit. If that runner was
00:35:25.840 the shooter, he would have been positioned about here. From this shot, you can see the rooftop of
00:35:31.760 the Lossie building is pretty easy to access. It's connected to another building by an elevated
00:35:37.120 walkway, which as you can see is only separated from the roof by a railing. Aerial footage after
00:35:43.660 the shooting shows police tape on the roof of the Losey building. And at about 12.36 p.m. an officer
00:35:51.100 describes a possible suspect. He's wearing jeans, black shirt, black mask, long rifle. He's on top
00:35:57.320 of the building on the far north side, just east of the library, wearing jeans, black shirt, black
00:36:02.980 that six hours later utah valley university issued an all-clear saying the threat is over
00:36:10.100 charlie kirk the 31 year old father of two young children did not survive
00:36:19.220 it's just devastating
00:36:23.700 okay um here's joe rogan reacting to the news
00:36:26.820 this just happened uh we just found out that charlie kirk got shot
00:36:33.780 it's fucking awful and is he dead no i don't think so that's what was one of the guys out
00:36:43.320 there just said okay in the lobby was just i was looking i've been looking i haven't seen anything
00:36:48.460 that's confirmed whoa murder for having a different opinion from somebody else yeah
00:36:58.780 different ideology from somebody else yeah yeah i mean i don't know beliefs that didn't align
00:37:06.640 yeah i'm sorry yeah rest in peace fuck news oh jesus 20 27 years old maybe 30 they even have a
00:37:17.120 a suspect i don't know that's a crazy thing they still haven't found him no
00:37:22.720 that's why i don't i don't i'm literally trying to track it all on twitter and it's all
00:37:26.720 fuck fuck nobody deserves it he doesn't deserve that nobody deserves that
00:37:34.320 so so were you saying that msnbc had a crazy take on it what was their take i'm literally
00:37:41.520 just reading twitter so i didn't see the video i just saw people talking about tweets of it
00:37:45.600 Uh, I'll pull it up though.
00:37:51.960 Fuck.
00:37:54.180 And even now they could have taken it down.
00:37:58.220 It was a tweet or a video.
00:37:59.880 I don't, I don't, I don't, I'm, you know, doing the show while I'm trying to figure it out.
00:38:03.920 Right. No, I understand.
00:38:04.800 Uh, I think they were live on the air and people clipped what they were talking about.
00:38:10.180 It's not a tweet. It's not on their Twitter account or anything.
00:38:12.580 So it's someone's hot take.
00:38:15.600 in the live in the moment yeah that's a crazy take crazy take is that what was the take that
00:38:23.460 they deserved it that's why i didn't want to pair right
00:38:26.280 okay um so i wanted to go to ryan stone's twitter and then we're gonna show all the leftists insane
00:38:36.720 responses okay ryan stone he's a red pill content creator and i don't know i was looking at his
00:38:45.560 Twitter and I'm like, this is literally how I feel. Um, those Scottish girls, the event though,
00:38:53.120 sorry, those Scottish girls are the event that will set things off. No, wait, the Ukrainian
00:38:57.320 girl on the train will be the event that set things, sets things off. No, Charlie Kirk will
00:39:01.980 be the event that sets things off. Oh, trust me. Things are about to pop off. People desperate for
00:39:07.260 a right wing George Floyd face that you saw BLM and want, and want one based on your consumer
00:39:13.500 preference. Let me see the other ones. It's not all talk. You see, you're a switch. There is a
00:39:29.820 dial because they aren't as good at violence as you are. You're great. He said, of all the
00:39:40.120 Kevin Samuel's wisdom, which is the one you can best remember. I will admit when I was wrong,
00:39:44.360 people actually remember three or four of his things. Yeah. And that's, that's the thing when
00:39:47.860 people disappear, they just kind of, um, let me find the other one. Um, Connick, this great man
00:40:00.780 of history is correct. Liberals are the idiots that think people that people can make the change.
00:40:05.660 um also conning charlie kirk was murdered the people are going to rise up
00:40:10.460 um why is everyone running a victory lap is this is this week's violence somehow
00:40:18.100 more definitive than last week's um
00:40:21.880 there's an infinite amount of nobody accounts with a thousand followers and a thousand following
00:40:34.140 them anti-social socials cheering a murder enough for you to easily find one um and yell well they
00:40:41.480 are getting desperate they're desperately trying to get some clout off of the outrage next week
00:40:45.920 they will be back to not existing now i always like his stuff because he kind of points out
00:40:52.780 what's going on because everyone thinks like that things are going to change but it's like you know
00:40:57.540 we do this outrage in this, you know, the streams and talk about how sad it is, but
00:41:02.160 I don't really see things getting better after this because it's just, I feel like as a viewer,
00:41:09.580 I've been promised it's going to get better for a decade and it just always goes in the same
00:41:15.000 direction. I wanted to see if we wanted to come on and talk about it. Everyone wants tragedy to
00:41:23.060 have meaning, to inspire men to do the right thing, for evil people to be punishing good
00:41:27.560 people to stand up. Everyone wants a happy ending, but no one wants to rush their 401k
00:41:32.580 on being the tip of the sphere. It's catharsis. I'm cynical and I might be wrong, but from what I
00:41:40.460 see, it's mostly turn the other cheek talk. Dude gets shot. Lefties are acting a damn fool and
00:41:47.260 provoking people over the shooting and most still want to talk. I just didn't see how this turns
00:41:51.740 into any kind of action. JFK and MLK were both assassinated in no civil war. In fact, a ton of
00:41:59.200 people in the 60s were. And the response was compliance to the Civil Rights Act. Keep your
00:42:03.940 powder dry. History is a great indication of the future. And then he quote tweeted people
00:42:09.720 on Twitter saying, no one has a clue who killed Charlie Kirk, but somehow a massive social media
00:42:15.060 consensus on access for him, concluding Democrats are the parties of murder. Leftism is terrorism.
00:42:20.380 and the Civil War has started in America for a bunch of red pillars. You sure jump on a narrative
00:42:24.480 without any evidence. Evidence, extended footage of a fight at Idaho Capitol after a man drove
00:42:31.880 through the Fidgel on a scooter yelling F Charlie Kirk. And then all the conservatives saying,
00:42:37.140 don't do this, don't do this. This is what they want. Sinking to their level is not the answer.
00:42:41.200 People fighting instead of talking represents the opposite of everything Charlie Kirk stood for.
00:42:45.980 And the problem is there's no freedom of speech. It's just who has the bigger guns.
00:42:50.380 when women hold the bigger guns, the purchasing power, when leftists are crazy and conservatives
00:42:57.980 won't do that. Say what you want about things in Utah today. Nothing will change for you. Sure,
00:43:05.580 you'll say shit online, but that's about it. I'm not saying everyone should freak the F out. I'm
00:43:10.920 saying it's the time for posturing and hyperbolic though, but just for the big brands. Everyone
00:43:18.080 else needs to be scared and angry and glued to their phones or else they win um yeah so that's
00:43:48.080 Okay. I'm going to go back to the, it's too bad he couldn't call in. And then I'm going to actually
00:44:03.260 let you guys call in and just tell me what you guys are thinking about the whole situation.
00:44:09.080 All right. So here are the leftists just crashing out.
00:44:13.080 all right hassan abi says charlie kirk opposed the civil rights act called george floyd a scumbag
00:44:21.700 and said he'd be worried about black pilots and then he'd be forced to he'd force his daughter
00:44:26.200 to carry a pregnancy to term if she was raped he shouldn't have been killed but he def was an
00:44:31.020 extremist it's like what is wrong with these people um tim cast says
00:44:38.340 charlie didn't want anyone dead with these people or demons who lie about spreading violence so here
00:44:44.820 is there seems to be this weird emphasis on the sympathy for charlie kirk is fucking weird there
00:44:50.820 seems to be this weird emphasis on taking the moral high ground and that you are somehow a
00:44:55.440 better person if you're like i feel bad for his family this is the world he wanted and the world
00:45:01.940 he was building this is a white supremacist who wanted both of us dead he was shot in the middle
00:45:06.780 of saying something transphobic about trans people and yet you want to have sympathy for him you don't
00:45:12.540 have to like violence but i'm confused as to how you thought the revolution was going to be magically
00:45:16.860 bloodless where is this sympathy for palestinians for the sudanese people for the congolese for the
00:45:22.940 black people in america that are killed at the hands of police violence for the black trans
00:45:26.700 women that are being murdered for simply existing why does this sympathy extend to a white supremacist
00:45:31.500 but not to the communities that actually need your care i think that people are afraid they're
00:45:35.180 going to lose a part of their humanity if they don't have sympathy for somebody who is a victim
00:45:39.660 of gun violence when in reality you're losing your humanity by allowing fascists to define
00:45:45.740 your sympathy for you while you're busy having a moral dilemma they win i think it's admirable to
00:45:51.260 want to find the best in people and to want to continue to have sympathy for those who experience
00:45:55.740 something tragic this is the world that man wanted to live in and while he's dead there's a lot of
00:46:01.100 folks that need that care and sympathy that are still alive what is wrong with these people
00:46:09.180 um a university of north texas student is going viral for confronting a classmate
00:46:14.940 who is passing around um wait uh a charlie kirk video dying while laughing
00:46:22.700 and says the professor who singled her out and asked her to leave class
00:46:31.100 Thank you.
00:47:01.100 Thank you.
00:47:31.100 damn
00:47:38.100 this is so black
00:47:42.140 pilling
00:47:42.700 alright we got another one
00:47:45.640 awful thing I've ever seen in my life
00:47:49.500 I just witnessed Charlie Kirk get assassinated
00:47:52.000 it was the most awful thing I've ever seen
00:47:54.140 in my life
00:47:54.740 I just put him in the neck and blood
00:47:58.000 went everywhere and the worst part
00:48:00.200 was all was the liberals who were there were cheering so i just have one thing to say
00:48:08.200 if you identify yourself with the liberal party
00:48:14.440 it's okay you can believe what you want to believe but if you identify yourselves with those people
00:48:21.160 who were cheering
00:48:24.140 and someone just got killed
00:48:27.760 I just hope you can take a look at yourself
00:48:30.640 and think is this who I really want to be
00:48:33.060 because that is disgusting
00:48:35.060 disgusting
00:48:37.740 I just witnessed
00:48:39.400 alright here's another one
00:48:47.900 Lib's crashing out
00:48:50.060 do you support his death do you support his death i do you support his death you support
00:48:58.980 charlie kirk being killed yes i do on the day he died you're here at a vigil
00:49:02.260 for charlie kirk and you support his death you support do you support a nazi
00:49:06.660 no i don't support a nazi charlie kirk wasn't a nazi supported you support his shooter
00:49:10.540 you support charlie kirk's shooter
00:49:13.660 would you shoot somebody like charlie kirk you would have killed him yourself okay
00:49:21.600 you have a job here in seattle do you support his death i do you support his death
00:49:30.720 it's just so messed up like why people don't have a sense of unity like other groups they'll never
00:49:38.860 band together i mean half of the people complaining or celebrating charlie kirk's death are white
00:49:45.500 that would never happen with black people like they'll riot i mean they'll take to the streets
00:49:52.620 but white people it's like we'll crucify each other in the name of like appeasing other groups
00:50:01.580 so i'm very aware that when you look at me you see the hair and the nose ring you probably think
00:50:05.820 think I'm a huge liberal. I love living in America. I love this country. I am a diehard centrist. I have
00:50:15.740 a lot of liberal views and I have a lot of conservative views but most of the time I'm
00:50:21.560 able to see the gray in areas and come to a critically thought out conclusion about the
00:50:28.600 right and wrong. The amount of people I've had to unfriend or unfollow because they're cheering
00:50:36.840 and happy about what happened today is very disheartening. And if you're following me on
00:50:43.460 here and you're upset that I'm not cheering and woohoo, please unfollow me. I'm sorry if you
00:50:49.980 followed me because the way I looked. We live in a country where I can look the way I want to look
00:50:56.900 and I can have the opinions I want to have and say the things I want to have because of where
00:51:00.580 we live. And this is an attack on freedom of speech, no matter how you look at it, whether
00:51:07.260 you like Charlie, you didn't like Charlie. I only believe in the death penalty for murderers
00:51:13.060 and child abusers, not somebody who's debating people and giving people with different opinions
00:51:19.920 platform, whether he agrees with them or disagrees, he's giving everybody chances to talk.
00:51:25.180 this is disgusting
00:51:27.420 a lot of people are acting really gross about this okay so here we got ben shapiro um his
00:51:36.540 response so there's some youtubers coming out and saying that they're gonna still do events
00:51:42.500 they're still gonna do debates but i don't see people doing things the way they did them before
00:51:49.700 Um, I could hypothesize that maybe they will with extra security, but I just don't,
00:52:00.440 I don't think most YouTubers want to die doing this stuff.
00:52:19.700 Amen.
00:52:49.700 i i could see people bringing guns like supporters maybe that's a way to do it is like if right-wing
00:53:06.280 supporters came together and started bringing their own guns you know and their own surveillance
00:53:12.460 Thank you.
00:53:42.460 let me see then we got over here at a moment and I think right now we are at a extremely
00:54:10.360 pivotal moment. And I think that what's going to end up happening is that right-wing people are
00:54:16.920 not going to continue to turn the other cheek. They're not going to continue to just, oh, well,
00:54:22.860 you know, this is just a crazy left-wing radical. I think you're probably going to see right-wing
00:54:27.540 people doing the same thing to left-wing people. And honestly, while I don't think this is a good
00:54:33.160 thing, I certainly don't really feel that sorry for them. Because a lot of left-wing people have
00:54:38.100 no problem advocating for violence, or at least using coded language in order to advocate for
00:54:44.200 violence. The fact is that there's a certain level of intellectual dishonesty that goes on in
00:54:49.400 situations like this where it's considered, oh, well, you know, this isn't actually what they
00:54:54.880 meant. And no, this is actually some others. No, it is. It's exactly what they mean. They're trying
00:54:59.980 to advocate for killing people that they disagree with. That's what's happening. And there's no
00:55:04.200 talking around it and to the extent that you try to you're insulting the intelligence of anyone
00:55:08.600 that you're speaking to and i think that now you're going to start seeing a lot of right-wing
00:55:13.640 people end up doing this to left-wing people now even more because it's very clear that
00:55:20.760 these social media platforms are not going to moderate this behavior the fbi for whatever
00:55:26.120 reason just refuses to deal with or have any degree of accountability for dealing with these
00:55:31.960 obvious terrorists that are in the country. And because of that, I think you're going to start
00:55:36.640 seeing an uptick of violence from right-wing people as well. And this is going to be, in my
00:55:41.580 opinion, I don't really think the word is justified because it's not justified, but the word is
00:55:48.300 expected. I think it's going to be expected. The fact is that, you know, again, you bring a knife
00:55:53.960 to a gunfight, you're going to lose. And don't be surprised when you keep bringing guns to gunfights
00:55:59.620 and then somebody else just Andrew Wilson says we can't give in to the terrorist left I will
00:56:06.840 continue in real life appearances if they shoot me while the internet said I was going to die of
00:56:11.380 lung cancer anyway someone responded and they said the problem is as Tim Cass pointed out it's not
00:56:16.840 just you that's at risk when you do what if they miss and a bystander gets shot remember Butler
00:56:20.840 if you're going to do it get security be safe don't do it on side I understand the argument
00:56:25.320 but we must not give in i agree we just got to figure out a way to do it safely
00:56:32.840 andrew take precautions please man of course
00:56:38.840 yeah i mean i think it's easy for the internet to um you know cheer on that kind of thing but we
00:56:46.440 have to be realistic and you know they're not like charlie kirk's the one who doesn't have a
00:56:55.320 his kids don't have someone raising them now. The people on the internet cheering aren't the
00:57:02.340 ones that are going to have to deal with the consequences. It's not that we can't do this
00:57:11.340 in real life stuff, but I think they're going to need different strategies to do it.
00:57:17.740 By the way, guys, I put the link in the chat if you want to call in. If no one calls in,
00:57:22.080 And I'll just, you know, that's pretty much everything I've got to say.
00:57:24.940 But maybe I'll put it on Twitter too.
00:57:29.160 I mean, I'm sorry if I'm low energy.
00:57:33.380 I just, I don't know.
00:57:39.780 This whole thing, I just can't believe it happened, you know.
00:57:48.920 I'm kind of in shock.
00:57:52.080 You know, I, I mean, I didn't agree with him on everything, so I don't want to pretend,
00:58:05.180 you know, obviously I had my disagreements with him, but it's just weird, you know.
00:58:16.460 Also be respectful. If you guys are rude, I'll just kick you.
00:58:22.080 how's it going um we got anonymous how are you
00:58:29.080 nothing okay well pearl i'm a pessimist too it won't get better sick of people saying both
00:58:42.520 parties are the problem nope good versus evil good make mistakes but they're not evil yeah
00:58:48.540 okay they say they're they can come on how's it going hey i'm doing okay can't believe we're in
00:59:10.180 this situation it's kind of crazy um so what are your thoughts like how do you think this is going
00:59:17.460 affect things moving forward? Just like watching the news, what did you think? What went through
00:59:23.100 your mind? My initial reaction is I thought that if we had any progress towards coming together
00:59:33.560 more, we would have had the left, quote unquote, political leaders. We wouldn't have seen their
00:59:42.860 reaction so desensitized they would have actually come out and genuinely said no to any violence
00:59:53.040 and totally discredit it instead of maybe one sentence the actual physical reactions that they
01:00:01.300 had if you had any on on video like jeffries like schumer is just appalling
01:00:09.200 and i thought that we were coming to closer coming closer together on both sides of the
01:00:17.060 political aisle and since i haven't seen that my opinion um this is not a good sign to where
01:00:26.980 things may start to happen civilly civilly just amongst the people it may not be the people that
01:00:37.260 have a lot to lose. It may not be the people who have platforms, but I'm concerned. I'm still in
01:00:44.800 a state of grief myself because he was the epitome. Charlie Kirk was a man who displayed
01:00:53.820 his religious beliefs, wanted everyone to find a relationship with God. So do I, and only voiced
01:01:03.600 his opinion in the in the realm of wanting people to express their opinions to each other and not to
01:01:10.640 act out violence do you see conservatives coming together and like making a change like do you
01:01:19.720 think trump will do anything to deter this i i don't know maybe it's just i have a very pessimistic
01:01:26.380 view but i'm open to other opinions if you have a different one
01:01:29.880 do i see trump bringing the conservative party together everyone on the conservative side
01:01:41.080 is that the question i meant do you see him finding a way to stop this from happening in
01:01:46.500 the future i guess do you like do you think there's anything he could do or will do
01:01:50.980 that will deter something like this from happening again
01:01:54.120 so i have a three-pronged answer to that okay uh number one charlie kirk was at part of a campaign
01:02:08.780 but he his security was private security it was not government security right he may have x
01:02:17.540 law enforcement he may have ex-military but he was at a college so if these events or if the
01:02:28.180 the whole does it speak to america is that what the initiative is called yeah um if this is going
01:02:36.760 on at public universities the onus really falls on the security of that individual and the campus
01:02:46.780 whoever's those campuses are if it's a regional campus if it's a state campus if it's a local
01:02:54.580 community college it falls on them to do kind of like what the military does sorry but I got some
01:03:04.840 some knowledge of it you got to do a pre-screening a week out you got to know your high points you
01:03:11.800 have to know all that and do a sweep to make sure that he didn't have to not bring anything in he
01:03:18.420 just needed to walk in get in at the right time and evac so that's prong number one is security
01:03:28.880 wise. Prong to number two, to answer it, does he have the power to enact public resources,
01:03:42.760 government resources for things of this nature? It really falls on PACs. PACs are supposed to
01:03:52.420 be funding it and their own actions but it is tied to that the movement that they're supposed
01:03:59.220 to be reaching out so there's a gray area there how much are we actually supposed to be
01:04:04.580 appropriating of tax tax money right and number three do i think that he will
01:04:14.740 i in my whole heart believe that the president and i've been following and supporting since
01:04:25.000 the beginning of the golden stairs more in the back behind the scenes more than what people want
01:04:33.640 to believe without credit he does he wants this to not escalate he wants everything that he has
01:04:47.060 the ability to do to make sure that we do not falter we need to grow stronger if there's any
01:04:56.060 quotes that you guys want to take away it is if we divide our nation will fall from within
01:05:04.780 because of division
01:05:07.140 it's the best wisdom that i could i could sum it sum up my three-part answer yeah good answer
01:05:17.420 um so i know that you said trump
01:05:23.460 would want to reduce this is there anything he can really do like how do you stop
01:05:30.760 crazy lunatics that have nothing to lose from doing this again
01:05:34.200 uh twofold number one uh you have to know who your principal is
01:05:45.280 layman's terms that to stop these actions from happen again it will there's no black and white
01:05:57.560 answer that will fit every single situation every single environment and topic that you're going to
01:06:04.160 cover so your principle in layman terms means is who is the person that you are protecting
01:06:11.660 and is it in a political sphere is a dating sphere is it about health care is it about
01:06:21.680 um you know political divisive topics it can cover a different range versus just your standard
01:06:30.080 are you actually a government official now you have a fiduciary duty you have a responsibility
01:06:36.960 if you are acting in an official capacity to be protected and we have already dedicated resources
01:06:45.000 to do that so can he he can with going back to my first point he can with political officials
01:06:57.500 but if it comes down to the average person or amongst people that's why our founding fathers
01:07:09.980 created our inalienable rights it's not given to us by government therefore government cannot
01:07:20.460 take these rights away all men and women well thanks for calling and I'm
01:07:29.040 gonna go on to the next caller if you want to keep me by or or just let me
01:07:33.700 know I'll stay back okay I'm actually disappointed with Brian Atlas whatever
01:07:39.780 and Andrew Wilson for reacting to Charlie Kirkson alive in like feminists
01:07:43.620 irrationally and blaming what do you mean by that I didn't I didn't see what
01:07:47.880 that you did, but it's just a sad. I know I got so many texts yesterday from like
01:07:57.960 all these people I know. They're just like, you know, stay safe, that kind of thing. I'm not as
01:08:06.400 big as them, so I don't think I'm really at as much of a risk. I'm not as political. They talk
01:08:12.280 about war you know but um heartbreaking day the world feels upside down i may not agree with
01:08:17.900 anything but i admire your courage and your voice much love from portugal keep speaking big kiss
01:08:22.440 um thank you probably you should try a diverse divine liturgy this sunday all the psalms say
01:08:28.900 come and see and we all might feel a sense of peace okay let me keep going
01:08:42.280 Let's see.
01:08:50.840 I do give priority to people with their cameras on, so people in the back if you have your
01:08:55.280 cameras on.
01:08:56.280 You don't have to, but I do give priority.
01:09:12.280 um
01:09:24.120 well most phones have cameras guys you can like turn it on that's okay um hey
01:09:31.080 uh jacob you gotta i don't like background noise we're gonna marcus
01:09:36.520 hello hey marcus how are you i'm fine can you hear me
01:09:40.280 um yeah i can hear you what are your thoughts on the on the topic maybe if you went through
01:09:48.520 what you thought when you heard the news and just any comments you have go ahead okay
01:09:54.280 so first of all i'm calling from germany my english is not the best apologize in advance
01:09:59.540 um it's a very tragic day it was very horrifying to me and for me the most shocking thing is as
01:10:08.180 somebody who's from Germany um that the word Nazi is being thrown around like it doesn't mean
01:10:14.000 anything anymore for example I'm 28 years old and for example when I'm when I'm playing online
01:10:22.380 since since I was a teenager I've been called a Nazi just for being German you know and
01:10:28.820 And it's crazy to me that this term, like I said, completely lost its meaning and it justifies their violence.
01:10:40.340 So you basically, they think you're not a human because they genuinely believe just because you have conservative thoughts and opinions that you're the same as,
01:10:56.680 i don't know if i can say that same as hitler for example no so um i think it's just getting worse
01:11:04.640 it won't get any better because like i said even you know mainstream news they keep throwing the
01:11:12.440 word fascist and nazi around and you know you have actual fascists fascists and nazis they all exist
01:11:20.820 and they throw them all into the same bucket i don't know if this is the right um term to say
01:11:28.420 that you know and it's really really shocking and something i've always admired of um the united
01:11:34.500 states um their patriotism your your guys patriotism is something that i really appreciate
01:11:39.620 and i like and it has been something that is really inspiring to me that you know you people
01:11:45.460 are very proud of your country it's something that it's really hard or has been very hard here
01:11:51.700 in germany because of our past and the guilt that the people have and now it's really saddening to
01:11:58.820 me as a german to see you know americans you know they they basically have to fight for their basic
01:12:06.580 conservative views and patriotism and this is something that is pretty new or has been going
01:12:13.780 on for some years now but it's still a very new thing that even as an american you have to be
01:12:19.060 afraid to show your appreciation towards your own country and this is really saddening and
01:12:25.860 as you can see it led to murder because the shooter generally thought and those who celebrate
01:12:32.100 charlie kirk's death they genuinely think that he's a nazi even though he has very moderate
01:12:37.460 and it's like they say they say it enough times people believe i've learned this in media it's
01:12:42.980 like you can correct something 10 times but if they just say it first and louder it's like it
01:12:49.860 doesn't matter they'll just keep saying it that's crazy thing that's especially um people that are
01:12:56.900 not mentally well they start to believe that and so i believe that any conservative um content
01:13:06.180 creator or people like you for example i'm not really sure if open air um exhibitions
01:13:14.660 are a good idea idea in the future so i don't know the question is when will be the next attack
01:13:22.820 because this is what they believe in so it's scary i think i think most youtubers are going
01:13:30.260 to take precautions if they do it again i think some people are going to just opt out some are
01:13:34.820 going to take precautions uh thanks for calling in i'm going to move on to the next caller thank
01:13:39.780 you for having me thank you thank you all right we got fish hey fish how are you doing all right
01:13:47.780 can you hear me yeah so what are your thoughts on the topic um it can be anything that just comes
01:13:55.780 to your mind i'm listening to the stream go ahead so the um the labor market statistics came out
01:14:02.420 like right before this and it's a feedback loop of like if you can't get a
01:14:08.840 job then you can't buy goods then you can't get hired for a job um so I'm kind
01:14:15.680 of like that is the impetus for this whole situation I don't really have me
01:14:21.380 I could do a complex analysis the whole situation but I don't really feel like
01:14:24.200 it okay so it's because like people are shooting people because they can't get a
01:14:31.160 job um no it's because it's because the labor market backs money printing and there's a weak
01:14:37.240 labor market right now okay so there's a lot of like layoffs and like corporate um cuts and
01:14:46.280 shit like that oh so people are crashing out yeah basically yeah that makes sense okay yeah that
01:14:53.640 was about all i had to say about that okay well thanks for calling in fish cool uh what's your
01:15:01.080 take on israel and gaza i don't have an opinion um tim pool and alex stein canceled their college tour
01:15:10.920 i'm i'm like when it comes to israel and gaza i don't know enough about war and war strategy
01:15:20.120 um candace exposes bridgette mccrone so even candace kind of proves what i'm talking about
01:15:29.400 with like there being no free speech women get to avoid accountability for free speech but you know
01:15:36.140 candace marries rich and now her husband's paying for her lawsuits you know what i mean
01:15:42.140 and that's like the worst hill to die on just i mean i just don't care if some 70 year old that's
01:15:48.940 almost dead has been pretending to be a man it's not that i'm not messing with the jays it's i don't
01:15:55.280 know. Do you want to like, okay. I could watch these conspiracy theory videos and come like
01:16:02.100 when I talk to you guys, I like to talk about what I know from experience and just personal
01:16:07.640 experience first. I could watch some conspiracy videos about, you know, some bullshit and maybe
01:16:15.460 it's true, but I'm not going to know. I'm just going to know this is the video that they sent,
01:16:20.440 you know, uh, what would make me not black-pilled?
01:16:32.100 It's a good question. I don't know. I think I would have to see, like, I would have to see some
01:16:40.780 of the trends change. So, like, I would have to see people getting less divisive. I would have
01:16:48.540 to see families coming together. I would have to like, I would have to see things going in a
01:16:54.180 different direction. You know, you could say personal experience is limited. That's totally
01:17:05.360 true. But I do think I have a different perspective being that I interviewed a thousand
01:17:10.080 people. Like, I think I've talked to more people in a, like that some people do by the time they're
01:17:15.220 50. I'm just being honest here. Um, but you're right. It is limited. And you know, I will
01:17:22.540 say, I don't know what I don't know. Uh, Gigi from Israel. Hey Pearl. How's it going?
01:17:45.220 um what are your thoughts on the on the topic like what did you have to say about first of all
01:17:50.180 obviously the beforehand tragic loss unbelievable loss especially for us israel is one of the only
01:18:00.740 supporters like the real top supporter we have we had among also amongst conservatives nowadays
01:18:07.540 after what we see going on with a lot of conservatives nowadays and regarding the general issue
01:18:15.900 what i'm what i want to convey is something that correlates also to lots of your contents
01:18:23.160 regarding men nowadays and i think that although nowadays even if right or conservative ruling
01:18:32.300 party as as we as currently there is in the states is also specifically in israel the people
01:18:37.820 themselves are not doing anything to to support the conservative or right-wing agenda they simply
01:18:47.500 go to to the to the to to vote we chose our ruling party and then they just all day
01:18:54.700 i'm not saying i'm acting in as a way of some sort of uh of course not violence or something but
01:19:02.220 They just bitch, they vote and bitch, that's it.
01:19:04.760 They don't act, as in they don't get any sort of social voice.
01:19:13.360 They just want to do the easy thing, to vote.
01:19:18.100 And for example, in the States, from my point of view,
01:19:20.660 it is the situation is so bad as it is right now
01:19:23.740 regarding the liberalism and wokeism.
01:19:27.660 And I think it's a product of the right wing
01:19:31.000 conservatives in the states and it's the same exactly the same here that they just don't they
01:19:35.960 just sit and complain and you don't have any sort of social uh feeling of of uh conservatism or
01:19:45.080 right-wingism and sort of sort of what i'm saying is that the the right and the conservatives let
01:19:52.440 it become that way although although the ruling parties are currently conservative and right
01:19:57.400 so that's my thought lots of talking lots of social media um complaining and not a lot of
01:20:05.640 i don't know some sort of like action yeah i totally agree i agree thanks for calling in
01:20:12.540 thank you yeah that's that's what i mean i mean it's
01:20:18.960 oh my gosh
01:20:24.100 i don't think this will lead to a civil war i don't think much will change you know
01:20:34.980 i mean that girl got stabbed on the bus didn't really do anything
01:20:40.840 ultimo mantis hello thank you for having me on your little podcast thanks what are your thoughts
01:21:01.080 on the topic my thoughts on the topic is people have a tendency to choose violence instead of
01:21:07.040 talking more frequently in general uh in instead of actually solving problems the
01:21:15.440 individual is held in a higher regard than society as a whole if we look back
01:21:23.760 maybe 40 years in the 80s yeah i know it feels weird because 40 years we think 60s but in the
01:21:31.200 in the 80s the whole society was more yeah people talked people knew their neighbors
01:21:39.840 and saw they solved problems by communicating and now as soon as somebody feels offended
01:21:46.960 there goes the knife there or some other type of weapon what like why has it has gotten to this
01:21:58.160 point what where did it go wrong
01:22:03.440 yeah i mean i think social media has made it worse what what do you how do you think it got
01:22:08.000 to this point uh social media most certainly has a part in it uh don't get me uh don't get me wrong
01:22:15.600 because we basically we only see the best of people's lives on social media so that
01:22:22.880 automatically creates envy and envy is a big driving force in irrational decisions
01:22:30.080 yeah totally uh thanks for calling in thank you for having me okay i don't believe this to be a
01:22:38.540 hunt on youtubers trump is extremely stigmatized by the left and by proxy charlie kirk was as well
01:22:43.480 i don't believe youtubers are at more of a risk um i actually agree with you that's why i was
01:22:48.960 trying to say earlier but i'm not as political but the people that i think would be kind of
01:22:57.280 worried for would be like crowder myron nick uh i don't know though nick they went after him
01:23:06.000 Alex Jones. Did they do an assassination attempt on Alex Jones? I don't remember that,
01:23:23.040 but they legally went after him. I don't know. You know, I have just met so many people that
01:23:28.380 have had their lives destroyed by this stuff. Oh, actually, no. Andrew Tate had someone show
01:23:35.020 to his house with a knife and apparently it like messed his security card up i mean
01:23:42.460 i've had people show up to my house um before yeah
01:23:54.060 let's see
01:23:57.260 they oh you're right they did assassinate an alex jones worker
01:24:01.580 Oh, I forgot about that.
01:24:07.560 This was a while ago, someone showing up.
01:24:10.140 It wasn't, I mean, it wasn't like violent or anything.
01:24:15.600 No, no, it wasn't violent.
01:24:17.160 So it was just, how do I put it?
01:24:18.840 Like, it wasn't violent.
01:24:24.100 It was scary because I didn't know why he was there.
01:24:26.520 But when you demonize another side calling them Hitler, these are the responses you get from unhinged people on the left.
01:24:34.900 Stay strapped.
01:24:38.320 Some people are saying he's not dead.
01:24:40.860 Yeah, okay.
01:24:45.540 Okay, guys, I'm going to log off for a bit.
01:24:49.680 But I just thought I'd, if there's updates on this, I think I'm really just going to focus on this story.
01:24:56.520 because I just feel weird talking about other stuff.
01:25:01.080 It just seems.
01:25:07.640 Myron and Crowder are not in the league with Nick and AJ lower tier
01:25:11.160 in different domain.
01:25:13.040 I don't know.
01:25:17.160 I mean, it's Tim Pool.
01:25:20.080 I don't know why.
01:25:20.820 I just couldn't really see people coming for Tim Pool.
01:25:24.400 I don't know.
01:25:25.280 All right, guys, like the video, subscribe, and I'll see you next time.