Pearl - Clash of the Titans： 304 Destroyer Vs Free Agent Lifestyle

00:00:00.400 Girl, you know I. Girl, you know I. It's your body. All right. The millennials might get it in here.

00:00:09.660 Birthday. It's my birthday. Woo! Okay. Anyways, today is my birthday. So today we're doing a

00:00:17.840 birthday stream. And I really felt like this debate that I'm about to react to,

00:00:25.560 um it's kind of the equivalent of like a game day fight for me

00:00:32.780 uh like you ever have two of your favorite athletes go up to play against each other

00:00:38.180 that is what this debate is for me okay so for those of you that don't know

00:00:45.880 andrew wilson and coach greg adams debated now i've had both of these guys on my show

00:00:52.200 i'm a big fan of both of them um andrew wilson is a 304 destroyer he goes on whatever podcast

00:00:58.840 and he just cooks these 304s daily now cga has a channel um i think he's got like half a million

00:01:06.520 subscribers i don't know he's got some subscribers and um he has been talking about men's rights and

00:01:11.880 men's issues um and red pill concepts for years he i would say he's one of the most original like

00:01:17.420 content creators in the space he's a lot of original concepts i've learned a lot from him

00:01:23.020 um i'm guessing i'm gonna lean more towards cga on this debate but we'll see who you know

00:01:31.660 who makes more valid points and it's on um digital social hour that podcast so let's here we go

00:01:47.420 what's up

00:01:49.180 suit like what was the

00:01:53.360 coach the community of America

00:01:55.500 you know most of the better communities

00:01:57.500 that have safety

00:01:58.560 good children good schools

00:02:01.300 are typically centered around marriage

00:02:03.640 however marriage has not progressed to the

00:02:05.580 point where men could be let me go back a little

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00:02:07.880 tequila is awesome yeah let me go check

00:02:11.280 that and soda yeah you want

00:02:13.420 anything Greg no no no tequila

00:02:15.220 from that you know when women debate it's always like i feel i feel i feel when men debate they

00:02:22.100 have notes they're ready to go you think it's a setup who do you think is getting set up i don't

00:02:30.420 think so i think these are both equally matched like people in terms of like their knowledge um

00:02:45.220 thank you

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00:02:52.100 I was thinking

00:03:03.000 I love you Jake

00:03:04.800 what's a joke calm down

00:03:10.260 alright I got my notes up

00:03:14.780 you got it

00:03:15.800 sorry that's so cute

00:03:23.440 he's like dressed in a suit and tie

00:03:24.960 oh wow

00:03:25.400 okay

00:03:27.680 wait for that

00:03:29.200 sure he can bring it in

00:03:31.780 how old am I turning

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00:03:36.140 forever

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00:03:39.380 let me silence this thing did your guy do the update too

00:03:48.360 what's that you said your guy was my stupid phone oh it was your phone oh

00:03:54.000 it's in airplane mode so there won't be any change does not progress to the point where

00:03:58.860 men could keep some delays we got andrew here versus coach greg adams aka the free agent

00:04:04.000 lifestyle we're going to talk about today is marriage worth it for men in the west so let's

00:04:08.260 get into some opening statements. Who wants to start off? Yeah, man, marriage is a great

00:04:12.880 institution. It was an institution that built the community of America. Most of the better

00:04:17.600 communities that have safety, good children, good schools are typically centered around marriage.

00:04:24.220 However, marriage has not progressed to the point where men could be safe legally. And a lot of men

00:04:29.580 have experienced tremendous damage, collateral damage as a result. And it has led to broken

00:04:36.540 families, a lot of broken hearts, simply because the laws are not positioned to benefit both people

00:04:44.520 in a divorce. Therefore, you have no-fault divorce. You have opportunities for women to use the courts

00:04:51.500 against men. And as a result, men have seen one, two, and three generations of men getting harmed,

00:04:58.780 their grandfathers, their fathers, their uncles, their brothers getting harmed by this. So Generation

00:05:03.880 Z men are not positioning themselves for a positive marriage. So at this particular point,

00:05:09.960 if someone asked me, would I recommend marriage for them? And they were in a certain position

00:05:15.780 in life, they weren't established. I would say, no, there's no benefit for the person to get

00:05:20.700 married today. Got it. Your response, Andrew? Uh, yeah, I didn't hear any, uh, anti-marriage

00:05:27.440 arguments i heard anti-divorce arguments so uh i'm with you on divorce 100 stream over and

00:05:35.380 agree but it's good thing that the topic isn't on divorce it's on marriage and it seems like

00:05:40.900 you agree with my proposition then and the proposition is that marriage quote is a great

00:05:45.860 institution and that right now your concern is that men can't be safe in marriage but that's

00:05:52.000 not actually what you're saying you're not saying men can't be safe in marriage they can

00:05:55.280 you're saying that they may not be safe in divorce so i have a counter proposition for you

00:06:00.960 my counter proposition is what if it's the case that uh you can use religious marriage institutions

00:06:08.260 without the state and then we add the ecclesiastical structure of the marriage that's

00:06:13.720 what always kept them together anyway before the state was ever involved so what if instead we use

00:06:17.880 the ecclesiastical church the structure of the uh the old churches that would be catholicism

00:06:23.780 in orthodoxy where you see them okay so i am gonna have a different position than andrew on this

00:06:30.200 um i grew up then i just have to go off of my experience okay and i grew up in a pretty catholic

00:06:39.740 area i have cousins that were really really catholic and i do not see that as a deterrent

00:06:46.720 to terrible marriages and divorce um I mean even if I look at like my grandmother and her friends

00:06:55.100 I'm not trying to talk trash on them but I don't really it like I remember when I was a kid

00:07:01.960 um and spending time with my grandma and her friends and I remember thinking that they sounded

00:07:07.700 like 18 year olds and I'm just not sure I think they had more children but I'm really not even

00:07:14.320 under the impression that that generation was very different i think they just had more kids

00:07:19.120 because they kind of had to i mean my grandma like they lived on a farm so um yeah the lowest divorce

00:07:25.920 rates because the community puts pressure on the women to act right that's what they do right now

00:07:32.000 the state applies no pressure on women to act right right you can just go and file whatever

00:07:36.400 you want get a divorce and go be banging the neighbor by the next night we totally agree on

00:07:40.800 that but to say that we should abandon marriage uh is silly it seems like uh you're completely

00:07:48.080 pro-marriage you're just anti-divorce so why wouldn't you just throw your weight behind

00:07:51.680 institutions where the divorce rate is the least and you have an ecclesiastical structure which

00:07:57.280 can be appealed to to assist with that that's what makes no sense to me my response to that

00:08:02.800 is if if we're fifths we'd be all drunk all right so that's the scenario that just isn't present

00:08:08.480 can you explain the analogy for me yeah um again i'm trying to be

00:08:15.680 i want to be respectful because i really respect both of them so i'm trying to

00:08:19.520 i'm trying to be respectful when i go about this um

00:08:26.960 again what they're gonna do and a lot of people try to do is they want to dictate your reality for

00:08:32.960 you so they'll say you could go to this church you go to these studies you go to this this and

00:08:38.960 this and therefore you're going to mitigate um the risk on these things and again i really do think

00:08:47.040 that the best way to come to conclusions is what you see with your eyes you know because

00:08:52.480 you're going to be easily manipulated if anybody can put a study or data in front of you

00:08:56.880 and they say that's reality not you know a clip on tv that's your reality not what you see with

00:09:03.740 your eyes and again um we could talk about the flaws and and the data i think andrew's going to

00:09:12.220 use but regardless of that you know when you say there's like religious women um and religious

00:09:19.160 institutions i i kind of have the privilege of growing up in a pretty catholic area and i can

00:09:25.100 tell you it's no different i you know i was one of ten kids i'm from a family that i would say

00:09:30.220 is more on paper traditional than a lot of places um you know my parents were together 30 years but

00:09:39.420 when i look with the people i grew up around i mean most of the most of the women were nagging

00:09:44.460 like wives so uh yeah let me and and i'll go into i think i'll react to one of my old videos because

00:09:53.580 do you know what i'm just not here i'll keep going well if we use if it's not a matter of if

00:10:02.160 it's a matter of when if we say if we have a situation where this is present then this would

00:10:07.920 work well that makes sense if we had that we do have it right now well it doesn't necessarily

00:10:13.340 work because and i'm going to tell you why because a woman can go to a divorce attorney and they can

00:10:18.420 simply just say hey listen it was a off the cuff off the state divorce but you got married within

00:10:24.940 a certain state or she filed in a certain state so therefore the divorce goes on absolutely yes

00:10:30.000 listen I've been to with the divorce attorneys and what they'll tell you is hey listen you can

00:10:35.320 get married in the ritual you can get married in the orthodoxy you can get married off record

00:10:40.080 but if she files and that woman is hell-bent on saying we got married I don't care if it was a

00:10:46.560 ceremony where we walked on coals with our feet bare that's considered a marriage you also have

00:10:52.100 common law you have a lot of other ways for that woman to establish marriage how does your way

00:10:56.640 eliminate common law i don't have any way to eliminate common law so what i have is a way

00:11:00.520 for men to avoid well then the argument is not silly so here's what you have you have a if

00:11:06.580 proposition which doesn't exist for most men most men aren't religious most men aren't yeah most men

00:11:12.720 aren't going to want to do like, I would say most men in my experience have not had overly

00:11:19.820 positive experiences with religious organizations. Um, so I don't think most men are wanting to be

00:11:29.660 overly religious. Like what percent of Gen Z even attends church? Um, and I think the challenge is

00:11:41.480 see men attend church say weekly uh i i i understand where andrew's coming from because

00:11:50.840 i used to kind of oh that's actually higher than i thought 46 of gen z men report attending church

00:11:56.980 the past week oh well good job gen z what about her context that is higher

00:12:05.900 it's actually higher than i thought

00:12:11.580 here here here um you know andrew's kind of talking about idealistic like so he's saying

00:12:21.980 the world would be better we it should be this way and cga is talking about what is and this was

00:12:28.820 kind of a problem when i first got into the red pill i i came from a pretty religious background

00:12:33.140 own. So I think I had a lot of those similar talking points. Right. And it's kind of goes

00:12:38.200 back to when I used to say women shouldn't vote. Well, it doesn't matter what women should or

00:12:43.580 shouldn't do. Women shouldn't be whores. Well, we are. We do vote. So like if you have to make

00:12:51.060 a decision today, you have to make a decision with the information that we do vote. And I kind

00:12:56.980 of go back to like the business example of your business owner and you say, when is this going to

00:13:02.100 get done? Like, when is this religious theocracy going to get done? And the person you're talking

00:13:07.540 to says, well, maybe someday in our lifetime. And you're like, well, okay, well, I have to hire,

00:13:13.400 I have to fire today. I have to, you know, make decisions today. And what you get is the trad

00:13:18.480 cons. Not that I think Andrew's completely in that realm, but they kind of say, well,

00:13:25.140 this is how it should be. And I found in my experience, those are kind of useless

00:13:31.460 conversations um you could argue they maybe move the needle like i think women not voting is more

00:13:37.300 mainstream since i did it you could argue maybe there's repercussions down the line

00:13:43.940 but that's still a different conversation than like predicting and what is you know looking for

00:13:50.340 to be under a religious orthodoxy so it doesn't apply so you're taking a moral standard or a

00:13:56.340 religious standard to apply to people who aren't under that veil so let's start with a couple of

00:14:00.900 things you said which are fundamentally untrue most men are religious in fact including in this

00:14:06.180 country most of them not some of them but they're not religious hang on i didn't understand but

00:14:12.660 maybe just take that point most aren't under your religion okay you can agree with that so here's

00:14:17.380 the thing yeah actually that's a better question what percent of gen z men are catholic

00:14:25.780 and Orthodox. And I have to say, I don't really see a difference in the behavior of Orthodox

00:14:34.940 and Catholic. You know, I think they're just as simpy. I really don't. I know they try to

00:14:41.180 sell you on this. I can only go based on what I have seen. Okay, so...

00:14:55.780 okay let's go back to here oh but catholicism orthodoxy is growing rapidly and if it's the

00:15:02.840 case that the ecclesiastical structure is already there which it is right if you're going to

00:15:07.400 cohabitate with a woman the thing that you're offering right now is common law marriage anyway

00:15:13.200 if there's cohabitation at all you're not protecting anybody i don't think cga i think

00:15:18.540 he says to stay away from women. I think he knows that most men will enter some sort of long-term

00:15:26.180 relationship, but I don't think he suggests it. At least under my model, it gives an ecclesiastical

00:15:32.240 structure that's designed to prevent divorce by applying community pressure. That was the way it

00:15:37.180 was always done. The application of community pressure within the confines of the woman's

00:15:42.660 social circle. Right now, do you agree with me, for instance, that many divorces happen because

00:15:47.940 women like to yap so you get a freshly divorced woman and she's free you go girl girl power and

00:15:54.780 she starts talking to her little friends and she starts telling them how liberating it is and how

00:15:58.580 great it is and this and that and this is why when women have divorced friends their likelihood of

00:16:03.040 divorce actually rapidly increases it's for this reason i agree with that i agree and divorce is

00:16:08.260 so if it's the case that this social contagion is eliminated because now we have an ecclesiastical

00:16:13.440 structure and ecclesiastical authority which won't grant it because you get ostracized from that

00:16:18.200 social group through excommunication for instance or not being able to participate anymore with that

00:16:23.280 community i don't see that as a deterrent because there's always going to be women that are still

00:16:29.320 like there's always going to be the simps and the women that still deal with those women like

00:16:35.600 pretty much always um i mean you could argue that it could happen but

00:16:46.080 how long have they been orthodox because

00:16:50.240 i i don't i think you have a different perspective when you've seen a religion over like a 10 to 20

00:16:55.680 year period because a lot of the people that you didn't think would get divorced they end up getting

00:17:02.160 divorced. Yeah. So marriage has no benefit to any man. That's an application of a serious and

00:17:12.960 significant social pressure, which can do the very thing you want. Bring back that great institution

00:17:18.520 absent the state. And it avoids this whole problem of common law marriage. Because if it's

00:17:24.640 the case that you can be common law married anyway, inside of a state, and they can get

00:17:30.660 grounds for divorce on that anyway then we actually need to have some social pressures

00:17:34.740 to prevent them from doing that so it sounds like uh we agree marriage is awesome for men

00:17:41.620 divorce is terrible for them so it seems like we should be attacking the divorce structure here and

00:17:46.180 it doesn't seem like you actually have anything to do that other than just avoid the thing that's

00:17:50.980 great for you because this other bad side effect could happen again i think it's

00:17:56.740 maybe andrew does but i don't think he does one-on-one coaching

00:18:00.660 So you kind of have to have a different perspective when, because again, like if it's make your wife religious, it's like, I don't know.

00:18:17.260 Hold on.

00:18:17.520 I'm going to listen more before I talk.

00:18:19.380 Women, right?

00:18:20.340 Thank you for the birthday wishes.

00:18:22.260 Sure.

00:18:22.640 That's like smoking cigarettes.

00:18:23.760 So why don't we attack the bad side effect when we have the mechanism to do it?

00:18:27.280 It's not if we can do it now.

00:18:28.340 Okay, so like smoking cigarettes is the same analogy you're saying.

00:18:31.940 Okay, here, cigarettes in this situation, we obviously know it has negative side effects, so you would avoid it.

00:18:37.520 Now, here's the issue that I have with it.

00:18:39.540 It sounds great on paper, but we can't travel to the land of make-believe.

00:18:44.320 It sounds great.

00:18:45.700 The majority of people probably wouldn't do it, and if you ask a guy, which this is an important part, they're not even prepared to even talk about that.

00:18:53.300 They don't even know what divorce laws are.

00:18:55.780 So you're asking.

00:18:56.420 Okay. Andrew doesn't do coaching. He does put a $15 paywall behind his debates. Okay. Blah,

00:19:04.900 blah, blah. We're not trying to roast him. So, but the, okay. And the reason I mentioned this

00:19:09.540 is you kind of get in a different mindset. So I'll give you an example. There was an e-girl,

00:19:13.240 she's going to, she watches this. So she's going to know who she was. I saw her do,

00:19:17.480 I saw her do a reaction that said, you should be loyal to men during the talking stage. And I think

00:19:24.060 that sounds really good. But I said, well, it depends how long have they been talking?

00:19:30.200 How often is he seeing you? Because I've seen women that are single because they're loyal to

00:19:34.720 men that are never going to date them. So, you know, I'm like, if he's seeing you once a month,

00:19:44.900 no, don't be loyal to him. Go on more dates. I'm sorry. I'm just being honest. Like,

00:19:49.820 you can't put all your eggs in that basket maybe if he ups it later um okay no don't no no slander

00:19:57.700 of andrew or cga this is this is me we're reacting to the debate we attack ideas not people so

00:20:04.760 yeah okay we're gonna keep going in them to travel to the land of make-believe

00:20:10.700 under a marriage system that oh sorry sorry but that's that's the difference between the girl

00:20:17.180 she said something idealistic where you say well you should only be loyal to one man at a time and

00:20:22.220 i'm like okay but if i had a girl talking to me i would ask like five questions before i would

00:20:28.620 recommend being loyal or not loyal i'd say well how often is he seeing you how old is he what does

00:20:33.020 he do you know you need more information does that make sense does that make sense it's like um

00:20:37.340 yeah it's it's just it's one is very pragmatic because you have to make decisions with what we

00:20:47.720 are doing today and one is idealistic like we're talking about ideas and these two conversations

00:20:52.940 are like kind of going head to head more percentage of people use no one uses it today

00:20:57.840 you might have said they used it to the past today that doesn't exist so we can't travel

00:21:03.740 to the land of make-believe to make marriage work yeah and again this is the two parts for you

00:21:09.900 it might work in your marriage but it doesn't work for the greater your argument here contradicts

00:21:15.280 itself because on the one hand you say men don't know enough about marriage but my assumption is

00:21:20.720 that your mission is to let men know about marriage absolutely okay well then i don't

00:21:24.860 understand how's the land of make-believe if you can let them know about this but i can't

00:21:28.820 Sure. So if I am, it sounds like I'm offering a real alternative to what you're offering. And

00:21:35.840 here's what you're offering. Men, marriage is great. It's a great institution. It's the best

00:21:40.360 for children. These are your words in marriage, right? Men seem to thrive. Their health seems to

00:21:46.800 thrive. Everything seems to thrive. You're saying. I've kind of talked about how that stat doesn't

00:21:52.440 work because the reason that that men's health seems to thrive is because um they include like

00:22:01.220 alcoholics and drug addicts um like men kind of that are eliminated from the dating pool because

00:22:08.020 their health is so morbidly obese men uh but men that are in shape and just like take care of

00:22:14.520 themselves there's not really a big difference in health well the problem is is that divorce rates

00:22:19.180 are high and they are however there's a few things there that you haven't covered one it depends on

00:22:24.400 demographic too for instance if you're black that's way it's going to be way worse than if

00:22:29.460 you're white correct okay way worse um and also socioeconomics matters right uh demographics

00:22:37.400 in general matter so you can do a lot actually including prenuptial agreements you can have a

00:22:43.740 prenuptial agreement with now the challenge is the majority of women won't sign prenups

00:22:49.380 um like when polled i have a video on this how conservatives trick you into marrying modern

00:22:58.120 women where i kind of debunk a lot of the stats that are used ecclesiastical authority without

00:23:02.280 the state even involved and it seems like that would mitigate your risk to damn near nothing

00:23:06.180 uh super chat andrew's whole premise is based on an idea that if you run into a non-state

00:23:11.200 recognize marriage you can't end up in divorce court this is proven false i don't think he says

00:23:16.080 that i think it just he says if you're gonna do it then this is the way to do it uh you know i mean

00:23:23.200 i think i'm just a little biased because i really like andrew but in his defense you could argue

00:23:28.400 that if you're gonna do it that is maybe the best way but again again he's not like coaching men

00:23:37.520 through this so i just think when you're a commentator and you have to cover like 10 issues

00:23:43.520 there's just specifics that are more difficult for you to get in like because i kind of stayed

00:23:48.720 out of politics i can cover dating a lot better like i can talk about things that are more specific

00:23:56.240 than people that cover a lot of things and obviously for your job you kind of have to

00:23:59.920 know a lot about a lot of things but i i think that's where there's going to be like a difference

00:24:05.360 because cga's i think he's working with these guys i'm not positive but i think he actually is

00:24:12.080 you know andrew wilson he should go up against um

00:24:18.960 redonkulous yeah we should he should go up against him you said if about 50 times

00:24:25.520 now here's what i'm telling you i'm telling you when all right we're already in this system you're

00:24:31.600 going outside of the system to create a scenario for me to argue what system are you going outside

00:24:36.320 of we're talking about marriage is typically done with the state almost everyone does it this way

00:24:42.240 so now you're not here's hold on a second hold on a second you've moved the goalpost you've moved

00:24:46.560 the goalposts to a scenario of if and you're arguing from the if hello for a second you're

00:24:52.480 arguing from the if perspective is perspective no listen it is give me a chance to listen all

00:24:57.840 All right. You're arguing from a very small percentage point.

00:25:02.380 Now you're saying demographics and we can talk about that, but you're still trying to get me to argue in your cloud of if.

00:25:08.340 That's the land of make-believe. Most people by far are married to the state.

00:25:13.700 Not only that, your land of make-believe still exists, the prenup with the ecclesiastics.

00:25:19.440 You can write whatever you want in that prenup. It only matters in the divorce.

00:25:23.220 that's the reality so i'm still dealing in reality you're in the clouds hold on for a second you're

00:25:28.180 in the clouds so let's take the demographics okay in your scenario it sounds like which would be

00:25:34.260 fair your primary concern is with white people no hold on for a second you said with black people

00:25:40.240 the demographics the chance is higher yeah so have you discovered the ecclesiastics approach

00:25:46.920 to black people married within this yes however their their demographics economics which all do

00:25:54.040 affect marriage has nothing to do in the land of the clouds or the make-believe with ecclesiastics

00:25:58.920 it's all going to boil down to in the law and there's no church reverend that's going to go

00:26:05.380 into your household to make sure there's social pressure on your wife do you know any yes okay

00:26:10.820 yeah do you know any that can cover here's the here's the the challenge okay because i hear this

00:26:16.400 a lot like sexless marriages will get the religion in there to like kind of do it for you or apply

00:26:21.180 pressure the community whatever men don't want women that feel like they have to have sex they

00:26:27.440 want the women to want to do it and you cannot outsource the genuine desire to the church you

00:26:33.660 just can't you can't um no one's going to do it for you the burden of performance of being

00:26:41.520 attractive to your wife is on you um and i i don't think that can really be outsourced to the church

00:26:48.880 that answer is no yes by the way when you keep are we are we in reality i'm trying the cloud

00:26:54.120 i mean we're we're not we're not arguing anything i was just trying i was just this is this is an

00:26:58.980 land of make-believe well when when i'm allowed to respond okay give me a second let me finish

00:27:03.300 okay what percent let me i just want to know all right what okay out of a hundred

00:27:12.180 gen z men how many attend catholic church or um

00:27:25.220 what is his church called um

00:27:28.980 we got to stop saying that women are easily propagandized. You cannot run propaganda on

00:27:37.620 people that don't have that desire. Women are not, I don't really think women are being tricked into

00:27:43.040 anything. It's what we want to do. Cause you can Google anything. You can Google conservative

00:27:47.420 content if you want it. All right. Or orthodox. That's it.

00:27:50.620 um oh my gosh i did not realize how rare orthodox is because it's so common on the internet

00:28:02.460 okay so 22 out of 100 gen z men yeah that's a minority and out it's like out of those 22

00:28:09.980 i mean half are probably going to be ugly to women like women aren't going to want to marry

00:28:13.180 him anyway um okay let me just keep going this point go ahead you're imagining your imagination

00:28:21.020 is great john lennon would be great you know you would be proud of you at this particular point

00:28:25.020 but i'm imagining all the people you're imagining all the people under a situation and a structure

00:28:29.580 that you brought in here all right but the state highly governs this and the state highly governs

00:28:35.260 divorce i'm dealing in the reality situation where i'm trying to counsel yeah and again

00:28:39.900 i kind of have to go with what i've seen and some of the most horrific divorces i've seen were

00:28:44.780 from so-called very religious devout women and i've just had every really religious devout

00:28:50.700 person on my show telling me their women are different i've seen all their women throw it back

00:28:55.660 so that's the problem i get i'm like i've seen all your women whore out

00:29:02.060 um yeah eve bit the apple they've been tricked women fought for the vote they've been tricked

00:29:08.060 men always think women have been tricked i know um andrew's more worried about winning than living

00:29:14.780 in reality no i think i think the deep down like feeling for a lot of those people is they just

00:29:19.900 want a better future for their kids and they're kind of scared where society's heading um but

00:29:26.060 yeah let me give information to the best thing you've told me is that you're willing to give

00:29:30.700 men the option to do this are they willing to all do this option the answer is probably not just like

00:29:37.740 they're not willing to do what i'm telling you them to do however we're both attempting which

00:29:42.860 is a good thing it's noble however your situation rarely exists can we talk about the um i had a

00:29:52.380 commentary imagine the kind of awesome sex a guy could have with a woman who's only doing it

00:29:57.500 because a priest told her to jeepers i'd rather take care of it myself oh that's funny reality

00:30:04.780 of what exists sure absolutely so let's take your moral religious crusade out of it and talk about

00:30:12.920 the reality yeah let's are you willing to do that well here's the thing you're not willing to do

00:30:16.520 that because it's all based on your reality guess what it's a debate and i will argue my points

00:30:22.860 from my from my view how i see fit it's not for you to but what i'm not going to do is expect me

00:30:28.000 arguing from the land of make-believe yeah but okay and the difference is andrew's it's coming

00:30:34.480 from the bible or studies um and in my opinion cga gets his information from like real life

00:30:42.000 not to say like i'm a little bit confused why andrew thinks this

00:30:48.960 because he's in her he has all the girls on whatever you know what i mean

00:30:54.480 um but do you know what i had a similar i i kind of went through a similar evolution to

00:31:02.000 andrew so i kind of get it because you kind of think the world is one way um they're saying

00:31:12.800 cga does um doesn't have any solutions but andrew does well okay and i'm going to tell

00:31:18.080 you the equivalent of that so if you're a business owner and you say okay guys i need solutions and

00:31:23.840 you're like okay when you're a business owner you might have a five-year plan but you really think

00:31:30.240 of things in terms of six months what we got to get well what do we have to get done this month

00:31:35.360 today and if your solutions aren't things that you're really in control of or you have the power

00:31:42.160 to enforce um and from what i've seen this like religious theocracy or whatever i i don't see in

00:31:52.640 real life it doesn't really mean anything you know i had a solution that women shouldn't vote and i'll

00:31:57.600 use myself as an example i that was one of my solutions but who cares it's a like to me it's

00:32:04.160 a stupid solution because it's never going to happen women are never going to give up power

00:32:11.200 all right so anybody my turn anybody have the um anybody have the sound effect for the um no it's

00:32:17.440 not that i don't like solutions i don't like solutions that are not pragmatic like if you

00:32:22.480 look at like ryan stone's work um nuclear caudillo um even rolo they're very detailed in their

00:32:33.120 solutions like if your wife does this say and even some of the puas like they tell you how to increase

00:32:38.800 attraction from your wife so she doesn't divorce you they're very detailed and you only get that

00:32:44.560 detailed by coaching people like that that's really the only way to do it because they're

00:32:50.080 gonna bring you questions on how to do it um that you're just never gonna think of like sometimes

00:32:58.480 i have women message me strategies or i'll even tell my sister and i tell them get on hinge you

00:33:03.520 know these are the pictures you need you need to pose this way this way that you know and by the

00:33:07.680 way and i'm not a coach so real coaches probably would have more detailed solutions but you know

00:33:13.200 i could say go to different bars at this hour or whatever you know does that make sense like

00:33:18.880 they're just talking from two completely different like points no rule i don't think rollo's full of

00:33:25.120 crap um i really don't i think he's really smart i just wish he liked me the television show where

00:33:32.640 the train comes through mr rogers let me know because i want to be on i want to be on earth

00:33:37.920 you said i liked pearl's solution of having two houses in one you can lock your wife out of half

00:33:42.560 that cj solution is something most men don't want most when most men want to return to this 1950s

00:33:51.360 cga can go be free free ag lifestyle free agent lifestyle cga wrote a book of solutions yeah

00:33:59.120 men are having a hard time accepting the reality of women being they're having a hard time all

00:34:04.560 right let's let andrew respond yeah so the thing is it's funny that you bring up imagine all the

00:34:09.840 with people with john lennon which is an anti-religious song and uh hilariously enough

00:34:15.220 was designed uh to assist with female empowerment isn't that hilarious but the thing here is you

00:34:21.440 keep on saying that what i'm offering is make-believe but it's not it's been governing

00:34:24.560 the orthodox and catholic church for 2 000 years including in this country now here let me give

00:34:30.120 you an example for instance the amish right do you know what the divorce rate is among them

00:34:33.900 it's almost non-existent yet they're still governed by the same laws of the land that

00:34:37.600 you're speaking to. So sounds like if I give a counter, if I say, look, oh my gosh, I'm sorry.

00:34:44.860 It's not social pressure is not pragmatic because again, I have to look at what I've seen in the

00:34:49.800 last five years. Social pressure hasn't worked because women are sluttier now than they were

00:34:54.960 five years ago. Now it's my sister goes to school with girls that are on OnlyFans. That didn't

00:34:59.140 happen when I was in college. People are always going to be scared to do it because there's too

00:35:06.620 many consequences for doing it. So to make any choices based on like that, there might be social

00:35:13.500 pressure that changes things. It's just not overly intelligent. Like I kind of have a wait and see

00:35:19.180 attitude. If it happens, it happens, but I wouldn't really bet on it. And the way all of

00:35:24.100 the trends are saying that things are going, it's not a good, it's not a solution.

00:35:28.200 i can give you a way a methodology in which you can utilize the religious ecclesiastical

00:35:38.820 institution which has existed for 2 000 years and has the right now the lowest divorce rates

00:35:44.420 right social pressure works like spades i don't know it doesn't these women are gonna stay hoes

00:35:52.260 i mean do you know how many muslim women do backdoor with people that are in town

00:36:00.500 this second as we speak not make believe land not hundreds of years in the future

00:36:06.240 right this second as opposed to the system you have of common law divorce which is sky high and

00:36:12.060 you can't do anything about it that's what is true so pointing out what is true what is true

00:36:16.820 is right now you can have a prenup that is true what is true is hold on let me pull up my video

00:36:25.300 doug can you um send me time stamps to the relevant parts of my video men trick you into

00:36:34.180 marrying modern women i don't want to play the whole thing but i think there's if there's a

00:36:37.780 stat he brings up i want to bring up me debunking it because there's so many stats they're hard to

00:36:44.020 keep track of but i know the challenge with prenups is one they can be thrown out two most

00:36:51.140 women won't even sign them and there's a third thing prenups are usually held up in court that

00:36:56.740 is true what is true is that you can have no the most prenups some prenups are held up in court

00:37:06.260 but the stats aren't really good on that because they're coming from law firms so if you're a law

00:37:12.260 firm selling prenups why would you be honest if they suck you know what i mean it's kind of like

00:37:18.100 if you make food um yeah and they can get thrown up um thrown out with the stroke of a pen

00:37:27.380 now a marriage outside of a state because it's a religious institution anyway you never have to

00:37:32.020 have a license with the state it's never been necessary and if you do the only way that that

00:37:36.980 can be done is if it's sacramental and if it's sacramental it's governed now by the church

00:37:41.860 that's going to be the community the women are a part of and so the thing is it's like

00:37:46.340 that sounds like a real viable solution what's yours more degeneracy go out and play the field

00:37:52.020 hump a lot of chicks how's that gonna go here's the frustrating thing okay so i'm gonna tell you

00:37:56.260 a story so i found out my um i had a brother i didn't know about my parents got pregnant with

00:38:03.860 really young and when i was growing up they always said wait till marriage wait till marriage wait

00:38:08.100 till marriage and i and i that was really difficult that's a tough sell i'm gonna be honest um for me

00:38:15.620 i wasn't raised overly feminine i didn't know much about men i think it's kind of why i'm so

00:38:19.780 interested in this stuff is because growing up i really wasn't like taught any of this so

00:38:28.500 it's a tough it's not a tough sell if you're raised as a super feminine like woman

00:38:33.620 it's submissive that's not how i was raised so asking a guy to wait till marriage it also not

00:38:40.740 bringing much to the table that's that's a tough sell and that's what i was trying to sell when i

00:38:44.500 first got to school and it was it was nobody was buying i'll tell you what um and i i told my mom

00:38:50.900 i'm like mom why did you tell me to wait till marriage when what worked for you was getting

00:38:56.420 pregnant immediately I'm like that's what worked no I'm not saying I'm not saying like that it was

00:39:05.400 good you did it but a lot of times people have to be cutthroat to get what they want and then

00:39:11.300 they're cutthroat or they do the wrong thing they end up getting the result that they want and then

00:39:15.780 they tell you not to do it they like kick the ladder out from under them and it's like well

00:39:20.180 what did you do and like that's that's kind of you never like it's like a different kind of

00:39:24.400 conversation you know like how how soon did you and your wife sleep together you know do you know

00:39:30.180 what i mean like did you play the field you know and so it's almost like these guys

00:39:34.520 and that and that's what i told my mother i'm like you should have told me to just throw it

00:39:39.920 back and let them finish inside of me and they'll probably stick around if they're like a white

00:39:43.840 upper middle class guy i'm like that i would probably be in a better position

00:39:50.480 i'm dead serious i'm like

00:39:54.160 yeah um

00:39:58.480 and i'm and i'm not saying that's moral but i'm saying that's that's probably pretty

00:40:06.520 pragmatic anybody do anything that's been the progressive mantra for a hundred years

00:40:11.540 isn't it wonderful

00:40:13.180 your turn all right we're returning back to earth now first things first

00:40:19.900 when it comes to this back in reality there's no god in marriage so mr sky daddy god religion

00:40:27.400 that's all great but there's no god in marriage at this particular point when you go through a

00:40:32.300 marriage if one person decides to not obey the holy body well you know see you say nope odds are

00:40:39.300 you'd get knocked up by a chat well what did my mom do now i gotta i gotta think about this she

00:40:43.540 went for the engineering department i'm just saying you get knocked up by an engineer

00:40:49.900 now i'm not saying to do that right does that make sense but i'm saying if we're going to go

00:40:57.620 off of results and that people have a really hard time doing this where what results did you get by

00:41:03.380 doing that yeah bible or whatever you're thumping you have no basis to keep that

00:41:13.120 marriage together if she decides to leave the church and decides not to listen or excommunicate

00:41:17.680 herself she's now under the state agree now when you're getting divorced which i'm assuming you've

00:41:22.900 been divorced uh well i mean that's a hell of an assumption like have you been divorced i mean

00:41:28.120 have you been married can you tell me if you can tell me how that has any merit give me a second

00:41:32.440 because if you've been through one you would know okay because again see andrew it's a different

00:41:38.020 type of argument that's why these they always talk past each other andrew's trying to like

00:41:43.120 saying let's stick to the facts and he's saying no what happened for you what worked for you and

00:41:47.520 it's a very different type of conversation pearl your mom beat the odds

00:41:55.560 i don't think so i'm gonna be honest

00:42:01.040 i don't think so i'm gonna be honest most of the girls i knew that got pregnant young

00:42:09.400 and i have to go off of what i see they're still with their dads

00:42:12.600 i'm just i see that as a way higher success rate than waiting till marriage in 2025

00:42:20.340 if women aren't raised to be wives and super feminine it won't work and i could i could

00:42:25.560 tell you that because i've lived it and i've been inside of these churches man i've been inside of

00:42:32.060 them that there's no god in the divorce court in the family court there's no god in there no one

00:42:36.600 asked there is the state in there there is the state so that's what we're arguing yeah that's

00:42:41.060 when you get married so you're no um feminism is a strategy that women use men's protector instinct

00:42:48.660 against them. Everybody benefits from this. Anybody that married late benefits from it.

00:42:57.160 Any, yeah, so.

00:43:01.840 Telling me if, and I'm telling you, well, this is what's going to happen. Even if you took Sky Daddy

00:43:06.800 into court with you, they would say, you prayed to the judge. The judge is the authority of the

00:43:11.460 court. So the God argument is a nice, interesting argument. And I'll probably not going to say on

00:43:17.020 a conversation very long because that's your god that's your sky daddy that's your religion i have

00:43:22.620 a different religion so hey so then again god you guys are just so unpragmatic how do you make a

00:43:30.700 woman be real you cannot religious people tend to be really controlling and um

00:43:39.740 you can't bring up bring god into marriage it's there's two people in it you can't control another

00:43:44.780 person if she doesn't want to be religious she won't be listen who gives you the authority

00:43:49.180 to change the understanding the conversation to your religion that's your religion i'm not

00:43:54.360 changing the conversation okay so it only works if it only works if you believe in your sky dad

00:43:59.140 that's that's the only way it works and that's the only way you're going to advise men we're

00:44:03.020 talking about mitigating risk no no we're talking about can men get into a marriage today only under

00:44:09.920 your sky daddy that's what we're assuming okay now can they do it otherwise yeah you can have

00:44:15.240 secular marriage okay go ahead and explain okay yeah make it work i just did make it work the

00:44:20.140 the argument that you have is that marriage is great it's great institution we already covered

00:44:24.860 this nice straw man pearl that's how i know you're a loser i'm sorry it's like

00:44:35.620 i say you can't control another person you're straw manning me okay get out of my chat

00:44:42.600 get out of my chat you find a god-fearing woman yeah but there's no incentive for her to stay

00:44:51.100 that way and you can't control her if she changes her mind and women change their mind all the time

00:44:57.680 personal attacks oh no

00:45:00.320 god couldn't bring eve to religion in the garden of eden men are not learning from the bible at

00:45:08.740 all i know great we already covered what made it great can we go into why it would make it work for

00:45:13.880 your secular that's the question i ask you you're asking me questions back go ahead and go ahead and

00:45:18.400 answer the question so if you're talking about secular marriage there's never been any point to

00:45:22.040 it i'm sorry there's never been any point to secular marriage ever never what would ever be

00:45:28.200 the point of secular marriage it's always been a religious institution that's what made it great

00:45:32.320 now when you say it's a great institution what made it great for secularists other than the

00:45:36.780 fact that sky daddy and god had all these enforcement arms and those things had to be

00:45:41.360 enforced socially like for instance men weren't allowed to run away and women right they had to

00:45:46.900 show cause for these divorces and they had to be good causes they had to show it for things like

00:45:51.120 infidelity right it was all biblically governed it was all lawfully governed by this sky daddy

00:45:56.220 guy you like so little but that's what made the institution great in the first place what you're

00:46:00.380 talking about here you're making a point uh that divorce is bad and yet i agree divorce is bad so

00:46:08.120 what we're really talking about is how do we mitigate the risk for divorce and we have two

00:46:12.940 different methods here well the conversation is marriage good for men that's the conversation but

00:46:17.220 it is we we already said it's good for men men that's not even in dispute now how do we make it

00:46:22.200 better since they're avoiding it sounds men or women are avoiding it sounds like the thing that

00:46:26.640 you think makes it bad is divorce not marriage correct then we need to make a divorce we're 15

00:46:32.620 minutes in and we are in the land of reality you finally called up can you tell me how we can get

00:46:37.940 to the secular marriage i mean i've given you a chance so you're dragging your feet so again

00:46:42.200 secular there's never been any point to secular marriage ever now listen marriage is for child

00:46:48.240 creation it would be great for child communities and all of these things and now listen by the

00:46:52.160 time the religious aspects got into marriage they were chopping people heads off and burning

00:46:57.380 bibles so listen i know we want to take it back to the past and act like the past was better

00:47:01.900 but there's always a negative part i don't find talking about history the most useful

00:47:07.000 i understand why people do it but again i have to make decisions on the world i have today

00:47:13.760 so you know saying women respond well to social shame and that's what you should bet on

00:47:19.100 it's like but i look outside and women are starting only fans

00:47:22.600 um okay doug mpa got me the time stamp which we're gonna debunk

00:47:29.040 um we're gonna debunk some of this let me put this up here

00:47:37.000 I don't know. What did I do? Hold on. How do I open this back up? No, is it Firefox? Hold on. Where'd it go? Oh, Chrome. That's it.

00:47:59.720 okay how conservatives trick you into marrying modern women

00:48:08.440 okay 11

00:48:24.800 okay we're gonna talk here

00:48:26.720 i should point out that i'm continuing to develop my in-depth documentary on modern divorce with a

00:48:33.660 huge emphasis on to point out that many of these people are religious in name only the institute

00:48:39.360 for family studies which in reality is nothing more than a pro-marriage propaganda outlet

00:48:44.280 masquerading as a scholarly organization have made great hay with the claim that regular church

00:48:50.720 attendance seems to correlate with a 50 reduction in the likelihood of divorce in fact this claim

00:48:56.700 claim ties back to a 2018 Harvard study which found that super devout Christians who attended

00:49:00.280 church more than once a week reduced their likelihood of divorce by 42%. Not those who

00:49:03.800 attended once a week and certainly not those who attended less. Broken down, this is a 32%

00:49:07.660 reduction of risk for Protestants who attended church more than once a week and a 54% reduction

00:49:11.360 for Catholics who showed up multiple times a week. The difference between the two largely being the

00:49:15.680 greater hostility towards divorce within Catholicism. Nevertheless, 28% of super devout

00:49:19.420 Protestants, 16% of super devout Catholics who attended church multiple times per week still

00:49:23.300 ended up getting divorced, a risk of roughly one in four for Protestants and a Russian roulette

00:49:26.660 risk of one in six for Catholics. Furthermore, according to Pew data and also Lifeways research,

00:49:31.060 only 12% of both Catholics and Protestants attend church more than once per week, with most of these

00:49:34.580 people being middle-aged or older, not in their 20s and 30s. So even if men were to make the

00:49:38.300 commitment of being super devout, there would be nowhere near a large enough pool of available

00:49:41.680 church girls to go out with. So despite what fake tradcons would tell you, religiosity is hardly a

00:49:45.900 solution for the male population to overcome the risks of divorce. But as I mentioned, most members

00:49:50.000 that the fake trad con could give a damn

00:49:51.300 about the male population at large.

00:49:52.620 They're mostly interested in using the divorce issue

00:49:54.460 as a foil for recruitment.

00:49:55.520 And it goes without saying that not all super devout women

00:49:57.340 who don't believe in divorce

00:49:58.240 will necessarily be all sweetness and light

00:50:00.060 after the wedding.

00:50:00.680 Some men will find themselves trapped in toxic marriages

00:50:02.520 with female religious fanatics who call all the shot,

00:50:05.060 are stingy with sex, and weigh their husbands down

00:50:06.560 with all sorts of unreasonable demands and moral standards.

00:50:09.100 Nevermind the massive potential for a religious wife

00:50:10.860 to turn out to be a hypocrite.

00:50:12.040 We shall probably never know what percentage

00:50:13.500 of super devout marriages are genuinely happy

00:50:15.240 and what percentage are not.

00:50:16.200 Since keeping up with the appearances

00:50:17.260 and keeping marital problems secret

00:50:18.800 are a notorious part of how super devout couples operate.

00:50:21.120 But what are the benefits of matrimony to men?

00:50:22.840 Marriage advocates frequently talk about

00:50:24.160 how on average married men benefit

00:50:25.740 from greater health, happiness, and financial success.

00:50:28.040 The US Bureau of Labor Statistics

00:50:29.560 indicates that married men earn 10 to 20%

00:50:31.640 more than single ones.

00:50:32.760 But please bear in mind that is largely due

00:50:34.540 to a higher financial burden placed upon a married man.

00:50:37.360 Yes, there is the cost of children,

00:50:38.700 but more significantly is the average cost

00:50:40.220 of materially satisfying a wife.

00:50:42.120 Now, part of this is evolution.

00:50:43.680 Women's nesting habits can prompt the purchase

00:50:45.160 of everything from a nice house to silverware

00:50:46.800 to otherwise useless throw pillows.

00:50:48.800 And part of this is social status, with women being far more likely to push for luxury brands

00:50:53.000 or to go on two vacations a year. All told, a wife can't quadruple a man's household expenditures.

00:50:57.760 Meanwhile, a single man can be satisfied with far fewer possessions, mostly the basic essentials,

00:51:01.840 plus some recreational purchases like TVs, game consoles, and sound systems. Beyond that, the

00:51:08.480 most single men are satisfied with far less, some even being perfectly happy with a studio apartment

00:51:14.780 and a mattress on the floor. In short, married men earn 10 to 20% more money because their wives

00:51:19.800 make it so they well have to. As for happiness, the general social survey in 2022 indicated that

00:51:27.940 roughly 33% more married men ticked the box for being very happy compared to single men.

00:51:32.880 And a 2019 article in the Journal of Marriage and Family found that depression was 47% less

00:51:37.500 common among married men than their single counterparts. However, that's really not the

00:51:41.760 whole picture. According to the Journal of Psychological Medicine, the 40 to 45% of married

00:51:46.900 men who get divorced see their depression rates skyrocket again by 312%, far outstripping the

00:51:53.320 depression rates seen among single men. So congrats if you're married and it works out. I'm not denying

00:51:58.040 that there are successful marriages to good women that could potentially make men happy. The point

00:52:02.840 is that men today are running a considerable risk to the tune of 40 to 45% of those attempts at

00:52:08.160 happiness blowing up in their face and leaving okay i have a video coming out um about what

00:52:14.260 your actual odds are in marriage yeah here let me let me go here part of the past if you go back

00:52:22.840 and you look at the english this has all been there people were getting their heads chopped

00:52:26.940 off the crusaders were doing their things across countries and they were spreading christianity

00:52:30.700 threats and violence now that's what you're trying to uplift that's what you're trying to

00:52:34.920 uphold i don't even know what the hell you're talking about you wouldn't know what i'm talking

00:52:37.900 I don't.

00:52:38.220 That's where you're lacking.

00:52:38.840 I have no idea.

00:52:39.740 So catch up.

00:52:40.040 You're sitting in the car for me.

00:52:41.280 What does the crusades have to do with divorce?

00:52:42.260 That was when your holy marriage was the best marriage that you're trying to go to.

00:52:46.260 Now, listen.

00:52:46.740 In the 1950s?

00:52:47.960 So what he's saying is you can't romanticize the past.

00:52:51.400 If you weren't there, you don't know.

00:52:53.740 You can speculate based on evidence, but I'm going to be honest, guys.

00:52:57.840 I don't want to be a farmer.

00:52:59.960 And if I was born in the 1950s, I would have to be a farmer.

00:53:07.900 Were we crusading in the 1950s?

00:53:10.320 What the hell are you talking about?

00:53:11.420 You talked about the institution of marriage for 2,000 years.

00:53:14.780 Sir, do you need me to catch you up on what you're talking about?

00:53:18.000 You're having trouble keeping up with me.

00:53:19.600 You're having trouble keeping up with me.

00:53:21.760 You said 2,000 years ago.

00:53:23.280 And I told you 2,000 years ago, they were chopping people's heads off.

00:53:27.140 Which has what to do with anything?

00:53:28.400 I need you to catch up with me, sir.

00:53:30.020 If you want to take things back to the past, you have to accept everything as the past.

00:53:34.300 You can't just cherry pick.

00:53:36.120 Here's the thing.

00:53:36.820 you're cherry picking if you want to take things back to the tradition uh-huh take it all the way

00:53:40.580 back why stop at the 50s take it back to the to the 1890s what you're saying right now is so

00:53:45.860 incoherent i actually don't even understand well that's what listen when you're when you're running

00:53:50.820 out of bullets no that made sense to me it's because we have a tendency as people to romanticize

00:53:57.060 different eras but it doesn't really matter like it's kind of a useless conversation because we're

00:54:03.380 alive today there's pros and cons of every generation the 1950s my husband probably would

00:54:08.820 have died in the war or i'm working on a farm screw that i want to be a streamer sorry um

00:54:16.660 yeah running out of bullets the last thing you do is the shame all right i'm not even trying to

00:54:20.980 shame you it's just incoherent i need you to catch up with me okay catch me up just say you're lacking

00:54:25.780 if you can't keep it up all right now here's a problem here's a problem here's a problem i don't

00:54:30.340 know what to tell you here's a problem you're 2000 years ago they're chopping heads off who gives a

00:54:34.100 shit what does that have to do with anything you said 2000 years ago i'm coming up with yours your

00:54:37.460 your holy religious 2000 years ago it's been a part of what does that have to do with this exactly

00:54:42.740 here's the problem you're cherry picking cherry picking what listen i'm listening i'm gonna slow

00:54:48.740 you down i'm gonna slow you down because i see what you're doing here i'm gonna slow you down

00:54:52.580 okay because it's hard for you to keep up it is you're right i understand i understand because

00:54:56.820 you haven't been across this is your toughest debate your audience knows this oh it's rough

00:55:00.420 there's no god in marriage okay in the united states yeah can we agree to that when you get

00:55:05.380 to divorce there's no god in marriage agree to that we need to agree to it because when you go

00:55:09.700 into divorce court yeah there's no god yeah you can't bring in your god and your bible

00:55:26.820 want to see um here we go this was a stay-at-home traditional wife you're here thank you um i

00:55:43.220 filed a motion for temporary orders on three different specifics one is to have john vacate

00:55:48.900 our marital home secondly for the court to accept my proposed parenting plan and thirdly to have a

00:55:56.420 Okay. So someone's saying in the chat, they're saying history is relevant. And this is kind

00:56:02.700 of how people get manipulated, not always intentionally. Okay. If the women in the 50s

00:56:10.460 were a certain way, does that matter to the women you have to pick from today?

00:56:17.140 no it doesn't matter it doesn't matter if things were once one way if they are one way today

00:56:27.220 today that john pay child support and spousal maintenance we've been married for 16 years

00:56:33.400 i have been the at-home mother to our five children and have homeschooled them for the

00:56:37.460 last nine years i also manage the majority of our children's extracurricular activities

00:56:43.200 which includes their involvement in boy scouts orchestra piano lessons recently my boys are now

00:56:50.780 involved in a hunting certification class and i often carpool from my son's irish dance class

00:56:55.820 i have chosen our children's pediatrician settlement or okay so she's a stay-at-home

00:57:02.320 wife she says that part let me let me go to the part where he gather in the house the kids want

00:57:06.540 okay now we're gonna now we're gonna talk to where the guys talk so so but i don't i don't

00:57:11.300 need repeated. What I need to know is you have indicated he makes X amount of money. And your

00:57:16.800 basis for doing that is you went through all the bank records and you came and you spelled all

00:57:21.820 those bank records out and this is the money he's made. He's indicating in his taxes he makes X

00:57:25.680 amount of money and significantly less. I want to know what the difference between the two of you

00:57:29.960 is. That's it. I don't need to know everything that's in the paper. I want to know why your

00:57:34.160 position is right and he's going to tell me why his position is right. Mine is documented with

00:57:38.300 bank statements. Anything else? No. To try to summarize what's going on, she's unhappy in the

00:57:43.420 marriage. That's what she wants is a divorce. We're one big happy family. We work together.

00:57:50.880 She just moved out of the big bed two or three months ago, and we get along fine. There's no

00:57:56.000 danger. There's no abuse. My business is integral to staying in the house because there is all the

00:58:05.660 inventory which she also didn't mention and all the what's the inventory the suits i'm a custom

00:58:10.040 tailor so there's all kinds of things in the office the whole bedroom is full of feral apparel

00:58:14.440 it's very disruptive to move it anywhere we do just fine together in the house the kids want

00:58:20.820 us to stay married everything works just fine as it is and i would submit that to try to break this

00:58:29.320 up or do something or make a decision today would not be wise. I would petition that we have an

00:58:36.300 evaluation done for our family with a social worker, a master's in social work to help us

00:58:41.380 find out what really is in the best interest of the children versus breaking this up, which I

00:58:46.080 propose. Okay. So long story short, he gets kicked out of the house. He's a custom suit

00:58:56.520 designer with a housewife um catholic guy he like sent me his footage and um yeah and now

00:59:05.720 he's getting kicked out of his marital home the audacity okay well and at that particular point

00:59:12.860 none of your ecclesiastics marriage works okay period so the thing is you just said can we agree

00:59:19.840 that there's no god in marriage and then you don't have to agree but hang on calm down and

00:59:24.700 then you switched over to divorce there's no god in divorce but those are two different questions

00:59:29.720 and proposition hang on relax the second thing is is that me saying that what made marriage a

00:59:36.900 great institution is this whole sky daddy character and that the institution has been in place for

00:59:42.560 2 000 years and it's been hang on hang on calm down and it's been a strong institution i'm not

00:59:47.900 actually sure how tying in you gotta you gotta let men know what they get out of this because

00:59:52.660 all the churches they're going to be dead by the end of the century because they just cannot tell

00:59:59.140 men like what they're going to get out of this that at the time they cut people's heads off

01:00:04.720 what that has to do with the fact that in the 1950s and 40s you still had 95 percent of these

01:00:09.860 marriages staying together this is not ancient history this is not even early american history

01:00:15.720 that's hang on that's in your in your in your grandfather's lifetime basically and then by the

01:00:20.440 way that was the case for black marriages as well very strong institutions but all of those

01:00:24.820 institutions were that way because they followed that whole sky daddy thing they were like oh that

01:00:30.880 sky daddy's gonna smite us if we don't and so what you do here is you're giving the the classic

01:00:36.300 i don't think women have ever feared god but i i think it's more uh yeah like women sorry i just

01:00:45.000 don't believe women ever have had the fear of god in them um you just i mean eve didn't fear god you

01:00:51.140 know i but it was more pragmatic um women had to stay with beta bucks back then it's not like we

01:00:57.680 wanted to we'd rather die than be with beta bucks but we had to then progressive argument which is

01:01:05.920 well you know guys it is true that it's a great institution and it is true it's the best place

01:01:11.600 in the world to have children for the continuation of the species and also it's fantastic for men's

01:01:17.740 health it's fantastic for their mental health it's great for them in almost every way but that

01:01:22.260 divorce thing is real bad and i counter you're right that divorce thing is real bad we have now

01:01:27.460 a center of agreement but now we're going back to the marriage in the west thing which is that

01:01:31.500 whole great institution problem well if we agree that what made it good which you just did is hey

01:01:37.500 that sky daddy guy and then i point out that right now you can still utilize that sky daddy guy

01:01:42.860 for an ecclesiastical marriage outside of the state hang on and

01:01:49.020 women don't fear god

01:01:54.940 the only thing you could do is say what about common law but you can't govern anybody from

01:01:58.380 common law and at least in the ecclesiastical institution you have social pressures on women

01:02:03.900 all right so i i if andrew wants to argue maybe it's like better than regular marriage by a little

01:02:11.260 bit sure but look andrew again it goes back to like you can put these studies in front of my

01:02:20.780 space but at some point people are going to believe their eyes over time

01:02:26.380 and i have seen one i grew up in a religious area and i've seen how terrible those wives are

01:02:35.680 so i know you're not getting anything special by picking a religious woman i know you're not

01:02:41.060 i know and i know the reaction to that is though those women don't count they weren't

01:02:47.420 real religious women i'm like yeah really i don't know they went to church weekly and

01:02:53.600 Like one of my best friends, her mom cheated at work, you know, it's like, um, yeah, you

01:03:05.580 know, you could argue maybe it's slightly better, but a lot of people got divorced eventually

01:03:14.080 where I'm from.

01:03:14.840 Stay married.

01:03:15.420 You can't offer a man anything like that.

01:03:17.540 Give me a single social pressure you can offer that would actually keep these marriages

01:03:22.080 together.

01:03:22.520 one what what just one can i answer something you just said this would be interesting i can't wait

01:03:28.760 you said but can you answer that question then before before oh of course you gotta ask me a

01:03:33.800 question because listen i'm listening i'm listening to you you asked the question at the end if you

01:03:37.300 would have asked it at the beginning possibly i might have been able to address it but let me

01:03:40.760 address this point okay you said the 1940s and 1950s with this imaginary sky daddy controlling

01:03:46.540 marriages that sounds like enforcement because by the time the 1970s came around the very first

01:03:53.160 chance women got to file a no-fault divorce without need for evidence without need to have

01:03:58.940 a private investigator to prove an affair was no fault the 70s yes it was the 70s started by

01:04:03.860 ronald reagan yeah i'll educate you but hang on it came along hold on for a second no no no i got

01:04:08.220 the floor here i got the floor so you said the religious institutions governed it and made it

01:04:13.400 great the 1970s came along and soon as they did women start to file divorces at as soon as women

01:04:20.520 could leave betas they did women hate being with beta male providers rates which is back to my

01:04:26.880 conversation soon as you remove the authority of sky daddy now you're back with the state and now

01:04:34.540 you have difficulty and now the risk is now greater so that's the that's the issue that

01:04:40.500 sounds like men should be moving towards sky daddy then because it mitigates their risk the courts

01:04:46.580 the nation should there's no course but how do you enforce that that's a good point oh he just

01:04:52.180 he made cga made a really good point he said the nation should be moving towards that but how do

01:04:58.260 you enforce that and the truth is if you look at all data it's not going towards that court

01:05:05.700 what course you're not getting a marriage from the state what courts are involved here

01:05:12.980 i agree that women have always been this way throughout history ancient texts write warnings

01:05:16.980 about female nature and how it leads to the ruin of men in society in my opinion

01:05:20.980 civilizations are cyclical and we are here for the ride

01:05:26.340 leave scenario how you can do it right now how is it make believe how do you do that

01:05:32.180 when people the here's the marriages do stay i know you want to go back to the aesthetics

01:05:36.900 this is gonna be a problem you can do it right this second okay you can go do it right now you

01:05:40.820 can do it at this particular point however what do you mean here's a problem okay can you get men to

01:05:46.260 do it yes okay you might be able to think you can get men to do it but as soon as they do it i want

01:05:51.140 you to stick around for the average of eight to ten years when these men start getting divorcey

01:05:56.500 what you're doing is you're leading we've been watching it for longer you've been leading you're

01:06:00.020 going to lead men into a bernie building and the reason why and this is a famous quote by

01:06:04.820 martin luther king is because the laws he really i wish he wouldn't wave

01:06:13.380 i wish he wouldn't kind of wave this away with like a hand the like leading men to like

01:06:19.540 it's the same reason i cannot in good conscious recommend marriage is because

01:06:24.020 I've seen too many men on the brink of suicide I can't do it I just can't like I don't want to

01:06:31.120 recommend something and they make that choice and then like they end up committing suicide because

01:06:35.920 I've seen men on the verge of that um integration didn't catch up fast enough for what he wanted for

01:06:43.820 people to integrate and what happened was it took him 12 to 15 years to realize that he led men or

01:06:50.040 black people into a burning building in which integration was not possible at the time okay

01:06:54.440 you are also proposing the same thing and i would like for you someone said they're saying um

01:07:02.680 tom brady is a beta now um he was a beta but he it was just to giselle like he'd be alpha to a lot

01:07:09.560 of women but giselle was with like the top alphas in the world he can't compete with that you know

01:07:15.000 know what i mean stick around to see the results of what you're proposing because eventually you

01:07:21.260 would have to pay the price how did martin luther king pay the price you would have to pay the price

01:07:25.300 for the men that you misled so martin luther misled men and that's why he was killed no he's

01:07:30.360 saying if if the guys listen to him and follow him and then make a bad choice he like andrew's

01:07:36.500 not going to be the one that pays the price it's kind of like um i felt really lied to with how

01:07:43.040 conservatives um in my early 20s they said dating was supposed to go because i went to college and

01:07:48.960 i'm like what am i getting taken on dates you know traditional dates and they're like do you want to

01:07:53.700 netflix and and that was everyone it wasn't just me i wasn't special black people you missed that

01:07:59.220 part he said okay let me let me repeat it because you're slow all right you definitely are slow

01:08:03.640 neanderthal for sure let me tell you something i'm dragging martin luther king said specifically

01:08:08.320 Yeah. Related to black people and civil rights. I'll speak slowly for you. Yeah. That he believed at the end, he led them into a burning building. I'm going to speak slower. The reason why is because the laws of integration did not catch up with what he would like to present. Black people weren't ready to integrate.

01:08:30.560 As a result, he said, I may have led my people, my people, that means his people, into a burning building.

01:08:39.600 You were, I would like for you, under your scenario, if your movement takes off, to see the results.

01:08:46.840 Because it took Martin Luther King 12, 15 years to see the results of his efforts.

01:08:51.940 You're proposing something very extreme that majority of people aren't going to do.

01:08:57.020 But let's just say if, because you like to hide in the clouds of make-believe, if this works, I would love to see you represent these men in a divorce when they get their head bit off by these so-called women that are forced by Sky Daddy to stay in these marriages.

01:09:15.540 This is really, like, I don't even understand how to read.

01:09:18.900 You don't understand.

01:09:19.680 I know you have a hard time understanding.

01:09:21.500 I do.

01:09:21.920 I don't actually even understand how to respond to a lot of this because it's so incoherent.

01:09:25.260 But I'm going to try anyway.

01:09:25.980 Oh, yeah.

01:09:26.180 See, this is.

01:09:27.020 No, I thought that made sense.

01:09:30.400 This is his always incoherent when he understands.

01:09:33.940 Perhaps you don't understand.

01:09:35.520 That might be what it is.

01:09:36.740 And it's okay to say you don't understand, and I can speak slowly for you.

01:09:39.900 I don't understand, but I'm going to tell you why.

01:09:42.080 Of course, dismissive.

01:09:43.540 I mean, you know.

01:09:44.480 I'm going to tell you why.

01:09:45.080 It's okay.

01:09:45.500 When you're losing, just say you're losing, and I can speak for you a little bit slower.

01:09:47.700 Let me know when I can talk and you gas out.

01:09:49.500 Go ahead.

01:09:50.180 Go ahead.

01:09:51.240 Typical tactic, but you can work that against these OnlyFans girls.

01:09:54.140 You can work that tactic against those OnlyFans girls that you debate, debating 23-year-old ignorant women.

01:10:00.780 They're smarter than you.

01:10:01.440 But now, you're sitting across from a person here that's looking at a Neanderthal saying you don't understand something very simple.

01:10:10.200 Let me know when he gasped out so I can respond.

01:10:11.340 This is the simplest thing that you can understand.

01:10:14.000 You're a go.

01:10:14.740 You're a go.

01:10:15.240 Are you sure?

01:10:16.240 I can actually do it this time?

01:10:17.300 Please.

01:10:17.680 Put me to sleep.

01:10:18.600 Okay.

01:10:19.500 Put me to sleep.

01:10:20.440 Here's why it's incoherent, and there's a bunch of this I don't understand.

01:10:22.960 You keep on saying that these men are going to get divorced, and yet I'm proposing non-state marriages.

01:10:28.140 How are they going to get divorced?

01:10:29.680 Well, you can only say then via common law.

01:10:32.020 Well, it's once you have kids.

01:10:33.440 Common law.

01:10:34.340 But again, you have no defense yourself against common law.

01:10:36.440 These are if scenarios.

01:10:37.700 I mean, come on.

01:10:39.120 You said I was going to debate somebody that's going to come.

01:10:41.920 Why are you just a if scenario?

01:10:44.400 Give me a real scenario.

01:10:46.000 No, but I don't think he – Andrew's not answering the question.

01:10:48.660 And he's got to answer about leading the men to slaughter the entire time.

01:10:55.500 Give me something to speak about.

01:10:56.680 I'm not asking you to speak.

01:10:58.300 You're trying to invite me to your church.

01:10:59.880 I'm just asking you to listen.

01:11:01.640 Please give me a real scenario.

01:11:03.340 You have to shut up long enough for me to do it.

01:11:05.540 Come on, please.

01:11:05.960 I've been here 30 minutes waiting for you to do it.

01:11:07.960 All right.

01:11:08.440 Give me a real scenario.

01:11:09.220 Okay, so what I don't understand here, again, and I'm going to ask again, in your incoherent worldview.

01:11:15.800 okay please you keep on saying that these men who i propose this to are going to get divorced

01:11:21.400 but i'm not proposing that they get married through the state the state's the one who

01:11:25.880 does the divorces so if the only thing you could say is that there's a potential for common law

01:11:31.000 here but that's something you yourself cannot guard them from by your own admission the second

01:11:36.680 okay so ecclesiastical marriage it refers to a marriage that's performed and recognized within

01:11:44.200 a religious institution um it's a religious ceremony sacrament okay so then let me ask

01:11:53.160 how many states would and that kind of marriage hold up in court

01:12:05.720 um

01:12:14.200 Okay, wait, no, let me ask this a different way because grok is would a ecclesiastical

01:12:36.280 marriage hold up in court if the state.

01:12:49.160 Okay, so it looks like it would not be held up in 41 states.

01:13:10.300 So Andrew's saying this will lower your risk slightly, but I don't think most guys are really afraid of the marriage part.

01:13:17.940 It's more the kids.

01:13:19.160 The problem that we have here is that I don't have to stick around for 10 or 15 years because we can look at the numbers right now in religious marriage for what this looks like.

01:13:28.600 And here's what this looks like.

01:13:29.920 If you're a Catholic, you're way less likely to get divorced.

01:13:33.220 It's not true.

01:13:35.880 It's not.

01:13:36.640 I just kind of, I went through the numbers in that video.

01:13:38.900 But again, when you've seen what I've seen with religious people and getting married, those women are, if not, they're more scary.

01:13:52.100 You get nothing out of being religious.

01:13:54.280 You have to lose your desires and genuinely believe in it.

01:13:56.840 That's the point of it.

01:13:57.500 No one should ever become religious to get married, but God gives you a happier life for sure.

01:14:08.900 if you're orthodox even less likely to get well i'm saying like the the hard part is the child

01:14:16.000 support because that's 18 years like i mean i guess alimony isn't as big but the big thing is

01:14:22.900 child support divorce and it's because of that ecclesiastical structure you're not ever going

01:14:27.480 to be able to prevent all risks from divorce not under any thing god that's not that's the

01:14:32.140 most realistic not under it all day but not under any system right is that going to be the case

01:14:36.820 they get annulments they don't even get divorces and it's a really long process and it's rare

01:14:45.700 andrew it's not rare sorry sorry it's it's just

01:14:51.620 do you know okay so do you know what it's like when people who like i grew up in the catholic faith

01:14:59.860 uh so that's like 18 years minimum and i was in it for a few years after it's like 20 years of

01:15:06.340 experience with a religion and it's like people are like describing it but you're like no i have

01:15:12.500 lived it um it's not rare have a similar divorce rate than the secular no so they have a very

01:15:21.860 very close so how do they get divorced i'm gonna ask christians get divorced if you i'll answer

01:15:25.700 your question please tell me because i know how to get divorced right in the divorce court yeah i

01:15:29.220 know so because they got a state marriage right yeah and i'm proposing that they don't do that

01:15:36.020 right okay a land of may believe if how's that a male and if you can go do it right now tell me

01:15:41.300 what are you talking about what percentage of people do this particular thing that you're doing

01:15:46.180 that you're proposing why would that matter let's say it's one person why would that matter one

01:15:50.260 person so you're taking it because if it was a good strategy people would use it

01:15:56.260 that's like men use strategies that work um

01:16:01.460 Um, yeah, I, I like Andrew, nothing against him, but I think CGA is winning this.

01:16:09.940 I think it's more, maybe cause I side more with him.

01:16:12.280 Like I would say, I agree more with CGA than Andrew, but I, I don't really, this is kind

01:16:20.500 of the first time I've ever seen Andrew lose a debate, to be honest.

01:16:24.940 all chance you're arguing against me that has millions of people on my side but you're telling

01:16:33.400 me a small 20 people in a little house yeah but it's it's the same thing because you're not working

01:16:37.460 with guys andrew cg i think cga actually works so it's just a it's a different um specialty

01:16:45.040 also in the prairie yeah do that do these that you govern people without electricity and and you

01:16:51.060 riding horse and carriages you're telling me this small percentage of people are going to lead a

01:16:55.900 movement of doing something you're proposing here on youtube this is going how many people are doing

01:17:01.640 this okay why would that matter it would matter because then we can use some data to determine

01:17:07.460 do these people end up in divorce well we can do it likely this is great because we can look at the

01:17:13.160 data so let's look at you please do you want to look at the catholic data and orthodox data for

01:17:17.060 marriage we're talking about your ecclesiastic proposal that's what we're talking about this is

01:17:21.280 the ecclesiastical proposal using catholic and christians their divorce rate tends to be very

01:17:27.260 close it's i'll look it up it's very close let's not catholic christian yeah but the the challenge

01:17:33.360 again andrew you're using um older people in that data so you're using people that were married 20

01:17:41.180 30 years ago in a completely different time um and also the the super religious ones again i

01:17:49.980 went through it in that video earlier um you just gotta watch the video i made on the that data set

01:17:57.340 it's not they take a really small sample size they don't account for a few things um it's like based

01:18:06.140 on how often the couple goes to church like if they go to church like a bajillion times a week

01:18:10.860 or something they don't take to account that um like the couples if they're not getting along

01:18:16.300 they might stop going to church together they don't take into account the age of the couple

01:18:21.260 um they also include younger couples like in their 30s and 40s um which like let's say you get

01:18:26.940 married at 30 average divorce is at 40 you're you're including people that haven't gotten

01:18:32.060 divorced yet you don't know how social media comes into account because again women have

01:18:39.020 dating app basically on our phones um which gives us access to higher status men i think one could

01:18:45.740 just like guess that that would lead to more mental illness more divorces they also don't

01:18:52.220 take into account what percent of women are actually religious under the age of 35 you know

01:18:58.460 so christian christian okay self-idea no no let's just put christians christian he's

01:19:04.220 He likes to dice up all of these people.

01:19:08.540 And listen, listen, I would love to go to your church one day.

01:19:11.740 And if you take that, if you really want to go to that study, it's like Buddhists or something that were the lowest divorce rate.

01:19:22.640 Yeah, I've witnessed successful Christian marriages for almost 50 years, and I'm not impressed.

01:19:27.800 Their husbands are spineless and hand-packed.

01:19:30.680 That's what I've observed.

01:19:31.700 will be a wonderful guest and i would love to thump the bible and i would love to say a prayer

01:19:36.960 with you uh however this conversation is entering can we pull up my screen very much a sky daddy

01:19:43.380 conversation it's about belief brought up sky daddy you you you brought it up about

01:19:49.840 i go through the this data set and why it's not it's really not the best um

01:20:01.160 trust me i've seen catholic marriages i'm not impressed either religious argument you're an

01:20:08.120 atheist you should be able to contend with that a lot of people a lot of people would not want

01:20:13.800 to do that you're telling me a small percentage who cares we're talking about mitigating the rates

01:20:17.680 of divorce it doesn't matter how many yeah so again and this is kind of as a content creator

01:20:22.920 you kind of go through this when you first start you want to look at the data and say my date you

01:20:27.320 know this data says this so do that but it's really not that simple you know like you see oh

01:20:33.020 well you know virgins have the longest marriages on their wedding day so do that you know but it's

01:20:39.440 not until you've experienced it like in the real world um that you can go back and say this works

01:20:45.340 and this stuff like it's different when you're talking from experience and there's not a single

01:20:49.680 thing any of these people can say to me i have seen catholic marriages and they suck they suck

01:20:54.880 i've seen them move forward from this one we agree to disagree no we don't agree to disagree

01:21:00.080 i want counter arguments i'm not going to argue in your land of make-believe yeah because you

01:21:05.440 can't because you have no counter no because again andrew's saying look at my data cga is saying i

01:21:12.640 work with these men who do you believe they got you and that's and that's kind of like where

01:21:18.080 the debate's going that's the difference kind of between the red pill and a lot of like the

01:21:21.920 more conservatively you don't have one counter argument here's a cop here's a kind of argument

01:21:25.760 okay what is it there's no god in marriage how many times do i have to say that yeah

01:21:29.280 and and people always want to discredit anecdotal evidence but it just in my experience

01:21:38.000 again if you go off of the data sets it's just you're trusting either an institution or what

01:21:43.200 some youtuber tells you it's way better like imagine if you go on 10 dates and tried like

01:21:49.040 10 different things about what works and what doesn't work in dating versus what someone says

01:21:53.600 on a podcast you are going to learn more and know more when you go on the 10 dates yeah

01:21:58.880 anyway let me go back with you uh-huh however this conversation is entering can we pull up

01:22:05.760 my screen very much a sky daddy conversation all right we got it's about belief brought up sky

01:22:10.720 daddy you is you you brought it up we got the divorce right here that's not how you brought

01:22:16.000 that up what is that so that is a religious argument if you're an atheist you should be

01:22:20.480 okay let's contend with that a lot of people a lot of people would not want to do that you're

01:22:25.360 telling me a small percentage who cares we're talking about mitigating catholic friends that

01:22:29.600 have been married 50 or 60. i've seen it too and most of them suck most of the women are just

01:22:34.480 snagging their husbands for an eternity the rates of divorce it doesn't matter how many

01:22:38.640 can we move forward from this one we agree to disagree no we don't agree to disagree

01:22:42.880 Okay, so you want to keep it here in your land of make-believe.

01:22:44.800 I want counter-arguments.

01:22:46.000 No, no, I'm not going to argue in your land of make-believe.

01:22:47.740 Yeah, because you can't.

01:22:48.820 You have no counter-arguments.

01:22:50.620 You don't have one counter-argument.

01:22:52.160 Here's a counter-argument.

01:22:53.340 Okay, what is it?

01:22:54.100 There's no God in marriage.

01:22:55.360 How many times do I have to say that?

01:22:56.420 That's an assertion.

01:22:57.440 It's not an argument.

01:22:58.040 If you end up in divorce court, God doesn't matter.

01:23:01.680 None of this matters.

01:23:02.700 That's real.

01:23:03.760 That's the realest argument that you can possibly hear.

01:23:06.500 Well, not in my experience, Pearl.

01:23:10.100 Well, that's fine.

01:23:12.880 But generally with religious people, they have an ego belief in religion, so they can't really see past it, even if it's like in front of their face.

01:23:20.740 And it was tough for me at first, but then the reality hits you in the face and you can't unsee it.

01:23:25.920 End up in a divorce court without the state.

01:23:27.860 Hold on for a second.

01:23:28.840 How?

01:23:29.740 Hold on for a second.

01:23:30.380 I'm going to tell you how.

01:23:31.220 Okay.

01:23:31.680 In the 1940s, which you so love, I don't know why you don't live there.

01:23:35.220 You look like you live there.

01:23:36.700 You're dressed like you live there.

01:23:38.560 Here's the problem.

01:23:39.440 Hold on for a second.

01:23:40.360 Hold on for a second.

01:23:41.520 Here's the problem.

01:23:42.440 Okay.

01:23:42.880 these people under your authoritative godly marriage still got divorced at high rates

01:23:50.260 once no fault divorce showed up it started at 25 then by the time you get here it's close to 40 and

01:23:56.840 50 it's still prevalent i'm giving you yeah because the women that got divorced in the 70s

01:24:03.120 like they were born yeah he's actually that's a good point they were born before that the reality

01:24:12.060 you're trying to drag me back over here to the little house on the prairie it's not working

01:24:16.060 it's not going to work with me how about this how about a traditional if traditional marriage

01:24:20.640 there's still 49 of people that are happily married married

01:24:24.320 if if that's true why doesn't marriage have a better reputation

01:24:30.040 i gave you one what i mean come on man what is the counter argument come on man it's not a

01:24:34.440 counter argument what's the counter argument there's no god in marriage and that's an assertion

01:24:38.540 There's no God in divorce court.

01:24:40.480 That's not an argument.

01:24:42.440 Okay, well, there is a God in divorce court.

01:24:44.280 All right, guys, it's my birthday, so I got stuff to do.

01:24:47.240 I might finish this tomorrow if you guys request it,

01:24:49.860 but I'm kind of getting tired.

01:24:53.480 Anyways, guys, let me know what you think in the comments.

01:24:55.980 Please let me know.

01:24:57.360 Please subscribe to the channel.

01:25:00.920 Right now, I'm thinking CGA is winning,

01:25:04.340 but it could change later in the debate.

01:25:07.080 i don't really like it when he's like insulting each other um especially cga was kind of throwing

01:25:13.320 insults into him i don't really like that but um it is my birthday so if you wanna

01:25:19.800 you wanna send some send me some money

01:25:24.920 yeah don't say happy birthday i want show me i want twenty dollars

01:25:30.440 twenty dollars damn it do i look like i work for free

01:25:37.080 I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Anyways. Anyways. Um, what do you guys think? Is Andrew

01:25:45.040 winning? Is CGA winning? I thought this was a great debate though. I, to me, this was like the,

01:25:51.860 um, it was like, uh, a super bowl, you know? Anyways. All right guys. See you later. Bye-bye.

Pearl - November 05, 2025

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