Pearl - Clavicular COOKS Michael Knowles And Con Inc

00:00:00.000 what is up guys welcome to another episode of pearl daily here at the audacity network

00:00:07.920 which is the network out of my basement um welcome to the show thank you guys so much

00:00:15.660 for being here i know you guys are hard-working men and like the two women that watch me i know

00:00:21.800 you guys are there too um you could be anywhere and for some reason you choose to be here so thank

00:00:26.700 you um so today we are going to be reacting to michael knowles interview with clavicular now if

00:00:36.080 you didn't know clavicular is like this young guy who's obsessed with looks maxing um so much so that

00:00:42.280 he hit himself in the face with like a hammer to grow his face and i could not believe i really

00:00:51.620 could not believe how much this 19 year old kid was just cooking, like absolutely destroying

00:01:02.060 Michael Knowles and the conservative party. Um, and I'm going to, I'm going to break it down before

00:01:07.800 we react to the full interview. I haven't seen the entire thing, but I saw like a parts of the

00:01:12.000 middle. Um, but essentially Michael Knowles is coming out and saying young men get politically

00:01:17.380 involved and these gen z men are not buying it look i have seen conservatism waste people's time

00:01:24.820 for a decade i've seen the daily wire push this stuff and waste people's time it's why i'm such

00:01:28.660 an avid anti-daily wire you know pete whatever um and so i just love seeing these young guys um go

00:01:38.100 not by the bullshit.

00:01:43.620 All right.

00:01:50.460 Should I freestyle to start the show

00:01:52.320 or should we just get into it?

00:01:53.380 It's kind of a long video.

00:01:54.820 I might.

00:01:56.040 Black fatigue.

00:01:58.500 Black fatigue.

00:02:01.780 Shaniqua, please take out the weed.

00:02:05.720 Black fatigue.

00:02:08.100 black fatigue shonequa please take out the weed

00:02:17.700 we could do conservative fatigue trad fatigue trad fatigue

00:02:25.380 you guys are just cosplaying trad fatigue

00:02:30.180 You guys are playing pretend to me

00:02:37.620 Let's put on a show

00:02:44.480 What the hell do they know

00:02:49.200 Let's put on a show

00:02:53.340 What the hell do they know

00:02:57.840 stop it stop it i know i deserve a record deal i know i know i know i know okay

00:03:04.760 we're not gonna do too much with that we're just gonna get to reacting

00:03:08.540 all right so we are gonna i i was watching this on my own and i was like i think i think we need

00:03:17.340 to watch this together as class um i think i'm gonna start 20 minutes in i might skip to the

00:03:23.640 hour mark because i thought the hour mark was where he really cooked but i kind of want to see

00:03:27.760 the beginning does not absolutely no and you're fully right and and before we go any further down

00:03:34.200 this rabbit hole i don't want to act like these two forms of improvement are mutually exclusive

00:03:38.840 whatsoever i advocate for all the same stuff you're talking about um i think that you know

00:03:43.900 learning a high value skill is one of the most important things that you could do i'm just saying

00:03:48.660 that it's going to be easier for you to actually ascend and overcome a lot of the disparities in

00:03:53.240 the dating market through looks i'm not saying neglect uh you know getting rich neglect you know

00:03:58.740 your status that would be absolutely ridiculous for me to suggest so i'm saying a well-rounded

00:04:03.200 mogger is kind of required with how difficult the scene is these days i i grant i i sometimes think

00:04:09.580 that i got the last chopper at nom you know because i'm a millennial and so michael knolls

00:04:14.580 and a lot of these conservative types really are gonna they're a little bit late because social

00:04:19.620 media is much more important now i can't remember the numbers but the percentage of women that

00:04:25.060 actually have like big have a tick tock and even instagram with like followers it's a good

00:04:33.540 percentage of the market so um i think maybe michael noles is like a mid millennial i think

00:04:39.700 middle age he's like 40 30s mid 30s um okay you want it to be higher so michael knows about all

00:04:48.100 the degeneracy if anything his age group partied harder than we did um but

00:05:01.620 i don't know if looks was as important then because he probably would have been in like

00:05:06.580 the facebook generation uh i i was single for a bit and i always liked dating when i was single

00:05:12.980 but i you know married the love of my life and we have this great life and i think man if i

00:05:17.300 had to date in the year of our lord 2025 i would be very upset uh i would have to learn how to mog

00:05:23.460 i would learn have to learn how to mu i would have to learn all these skills that i don't possess

00:05:27.780 um yeah absolutely and i would say that the main reason that is is because of instagram right and

00:05:33.300 a lot of people don't understand the implications of you know access to the internet and access to

00:05:39.700 communicating with everyone across the entire world essentially so what that looks like in

00:05:44.980 in terms of a hypergamy standpoint was, you know, maybe you had a girl from your town who's going

00:05:50.240 to try to date above her looks level, maybe just in her immediate surroundings. But now we've got

00:05:55.860 people like, you know, professional athletes DMing them on Instagram, flying them out.

00:06:01.440 So you're not. Yeah. And the thing is, you guys have no idea how prevalent this is. Well,

00:06:06.000 maybe the younger guys do. I think there's kind of a lot of cope for men that aren't

00:06:09.780 actually dating attractive women or women in the dating market um now not every woman's going to

00:06:15.860 be able to get in contact with an a-list celebrity like i do you think a-list celebrities but even

00:06:22.580 actually do you know what even me i've met one or two i mean they they didn't really didn't hit on

00:06:28.500 me shocking i know uh but but just i mean just getting in contact with that high level of men

00:06:36.980 kind of messes women up so especially if you're delusional and think you have a chance

00:06:44.340 it's competing with the top chads of your 15 mile radius you're competing with the entire world

00:06:50.260 so it's just it's the chads of the world maybe who even live in chad yeah the nation of chad

00:06:55.300 you got no idea uh well i doubt it but um so it's becoming increasingly difficult to compete

00:07:01.380 as like the average guy so like there's this purgatory zone where uh even someone who's

00:07:06.020 average to above average could be struggling to secure a long-term relationship a lot of the

00:07:10.600 times and that's like really alarming this is very interesting because the the observation

00:07:15.140 you're making pertains to the economic discussion too a lot of the debates over free trade and

00:07:20.940 economic policy in the last 10 years have revolved around the perils of globalization

00:07:25.280 previously you only had to compete against your countrymen now you got to compete against your

00:07:29.820 countrymen the flood of foreigners that comes in i just hate how he talks i hate how he talks

00:07:35.880 like are you are you human do you know what i mean let's like

00:07:39.240 across an open border and a globalized world with jobs being outsourced all over the globe

00:07:56.880 yeah exactly uh very similar um but yeah no even if it was just domestically like it things are

00:08:04.200 really bad like when you've got girls being like flown out by like shaquille o'neal uh and you're

00:08:09.000 just an average guy making you know maybe eighty thousand dollars a year like what are you supposed

00:08:12.920 to do does that happen does shaquille o'neal fly out girls from palookaville oh i'm sure yeah well

00:08:18.280 look if you actually go through like the numbers like some of these guys are banging i know a guy

00:08:24.440 that goes through like 50 to 100 women a year that's a lot of that is a lot of

00:08:33.320 you know so uh there are men that like run through entire towns

00:08:40.200 you know absolutely does he really or is that the thing like i it's a fun story i and i guess it

00:08:46.440 could have but does that really happen absolutely yeah no i've seen professional athletes like

00:08:51.320 following like girls i knew from like my hometown like this is like a very common thing because

00:08:56.200 with how degenerate yeah and that's and that's the thing michael knowles is he's a simp so the simps

00:09:01.640 there's the guy there's the pimps the simps and the sexless now the pimps know what's going on

00:09:07.960 because they're the ones that pimping they're banging all the women the women bang the pimps

00:09:14.040 but sell purity to the simps and the simps they want to believe the lie like michael noles and

00:09:18.840 his wife broke up in college what do you think that she did in college i mean the pimps know

00:09:26.360 They're like, we know, but we're not going to say anything because we need the sips to clean up our mess, obviously.

00:09:36.040 I know.

00:09:36.380 Should I start?

00:09:38.280 How is, do I have a recessed, am I recessed?

00:09:45.120 Because do you know what?

00:09:46.040 I was actually looking at a jaw because I know he does the looks maxing.

00:09:50.180 i actually kind of wanted to get the um palette expander because i really i have tmj and i've

00:09:56.960 had it for years and i just want it to go away so bad oh i want it to go away so bad do you hear

00:10:02.700 this like look but i know i noticed sorry when my jaw goes like forward it doesn't pop as much

00:10:10.880 but i can't then it's like an over you see i can't so i don't know apparently that could fix it i

00:10:16.080 mean who cares but that's what i was thinking about the looks maxers i'm like is that what they

00:10:21.040 do am i i'm sharing too much what am i doing am i sharing too much no but it like pops and it

00:10:34.080 pops so loud and i can't i've tried to get it to go away for years i've had it since i was 16.

00:10:46.080 i'm talking too much me it's like what am i doing okay so i'm making this about me women

00:10:57.760 my point is this um it might take 10 years to get this to go away

00:11:04.480 all right i'm going to keep going i'm just going to keep my point is this the women know what's

00:11:08.800 going on the pimps know what's going on the simps want to believe that it's not that bad but it is

00:11:13.840 that bad society has moved um these girls are taking on so many different sexual partners that

00:11:20.320 you know that there's a lot of you know plausibility for this kind of stuff so the promiscuity is a

00:11:25.280 major problem i mean it right on a whole host of social levels uh but but what you're telling me is

00:11:32.240 looks maxing is chiefly about getting a girlfriend no no uh and that's what he's trying to belittle

00:11:40.160 him right he's trying to like make it it's kind of like the incel argument look i've tried the

00:11:48.880 exercises i've tried so much stuff to make the tmj goes away go away that i'm looking at palette

00:11:56.000 expansion and i know i have a tongue tie so that might be part of it we'll see i don't know i have

00:12:03.040 an appointment in january so we'll see your looks are going to improve your quality of life in a lot

00:12:11.200 of different regards whether it be in the workplace um just overall opportunities presented to you

00:12:16.880 this is all going to be tailored to looks and the main thing that you need to understand is the halo

00:12:21.680 effect i don't know if you've heard about this what is the halo effect the halo effect is that

00:12:25.840 people are going to perceive the things that you say and the things that you do a lot better if

00:12:30.240 you're good-looking. There's like that meme where some really good-looking guy goes up and he's like,

00:12:36.400 hey, Shelly, nice dress today. And she's like, oh, thanks, GigaChat. And then some fat guy walks up

00:12:40.960 and he's like, nice dress, Shelly. And she's like, hello, HR. Exactly, yeah. So no, that's a

00:12:45.520 pinnacle example of the halo effect and what that looks like. So if you've got to be this fat slob

00:12:50.560 who's getting HR complaints that you saw another guy do two seconds ago, that's got to be quite

00:12:56.080 brutal you know so um just your overall well-being if you're an unattractive person and no one even

00:13:02.400 wants to look at you in the elevator no one even wants to shake your hand or acknowledge you

00:13:07.840 uh it's horrible for your mental for your mental well-being and that's why i think looks maxing

00:13:14.080 goes a lot further than just getting a girlfriend like that seems like a very silly thing uh to do

00:13:19.840 at least though you would have to say the thesis of looks maxing is that looks are the most important

00:13:26.000 thing in life yeah what about that and that's true look and this isn't

00:13:38.000 i'm someone i i could have looked maxed more in my life i never cared about this stuff

00:13:43.680 but i i've i've seen women this is the thing i've seen women get surgeries and their lives change

00:13:49.840 change i'm just being i'm being for real here i've seen women and men not men as much but

00:13:58.180 i had a friend who was an eight plus in a lot in a former life she got to hang out

00:14:08.080 with a-list celebrities i've met women that are just paid to be hot

00:14:13.000 i mean that that i agree with him i think that's actually and i said this to the black

00:14:20.980 pillars years ago that i do think it starts with looks um yeah kylie jenner yeah i know people act

00:14:29.460 like they think she looked better before no she didn't like let's just let's just keep it a buck

00:14:34.820 non-physical things you know i'm a little older than you and when i was a kid we were told looks

00:14:40.460 are in everything don't judge a book by its cover it's what's on the inside that counts uh you know

00:14:46.380 christianity and religion generally teaches us that uh there's more to life than the material

00:14:52.380 aspects of this world and you know we need to focus on the spirit and yeah no absolutely but

00:14:57.740 the thing is yeah and so people are saying looks max or it doesn't work now i don't think you can

00:15:04.060 improve that much like i think maybe a five could go to like a six six and a half like i don't think

00:15:09.820 i do think you're kind of cooked where you start but there are certain things we can't deny like

00:15:16.700 would would melania trump look as good at her age without whatever the hell enhancements that she

00:15:21.420 got no um it's just come on let's just keep it a buck your subconscious tells you uh if someone is

00:15:32.220 genetically disfortunate that they are lesser than you and you have to kind of now you're saying

00:15:37.580 pearl's justifying i'm not trying to justify it but like we got to be real that some of it works

00:15:44.700 like i just don't like i think sometimes the conservatives are kind of delusional

00:15:49.820 yeah like a guy with myron got the hair transplant it looks better than him being

00:15:54.220 bald like do you like are you what are you guys women are you women we're not delusional here

00:16:03.420 and you know what the biggest difference in attention i've ever noticed for anything like

00:16:07.340 fake i've done i haven't done much right but it was actually fake hair i know i got fake hair

00:16:16.460 um like extensions for a while and i couldn't believe how much more attention i got like male

00:16:23.340 attention it was kind of blackpilling i'm like oh wow this isn't supposed to like work

00:16:30.140 they can't tell this is oh and i have clip-ins i don't wear them much because it's just

00:16:37.340 but yeah no let's be real fight that if you're thinking in terms of like christianity to

00:16:43.520 acknowledge them as an equal um so if you've got to go against like your biological instincts to

00:16:49.460 have a belief system it already kind of just makes it a little bit difficult you know yeah but don't

00:16:55.620 we do that in a whole host of ways like there's i believe in original sin and i and concupiscence

00:17:01.220 i think it's a fallen world and so sometimes people drive me crazy and i kind of want to

00:17:06.480 murder them. My biology or some fallen aspect of my nature urges me to murder them or to go sleep

00:17:14.080 with a hundred other women who aren't my wife or to eat 10 more cupcakes off the table. And I have

00:17:19.620 to fight against that just as I fight against all sin. But what's easier, to convince every single

00:17:24.760 person in the United States to treat everyone equally based on looks and really fight their

00:17:32.580 biological instincts, or to individually improve yourself so that you don't have to.

00:17:37.840 Well, I guess maybe the question then becomes over the improvement, because you've already

00:17:43.940 granted that some of these drugs that you're taking, they might have negative side effects.

00:17:50.640 You know, is Luxmaxing all just drugs?

00:17:52.380 No, no, no, no.

00:17:53.300 What else is there to it?

00:17:55.260 So there's a lot of stuff about, like, coloring, like, you know, being tanner.

00:17:59.220 It could even be as simple as...

00:18:01.340 Is tan good?

00:18:01.960 tanning yes well the uv damage and uv exposure can certainly no i'm saying uh from the looks

00:18:08.620 max perspective do people like the tanner people or the whiter people the tanner people actually

00:18:12.500 and they've done a lot of different surveying about this usually uh tanned european phenotypes

00:18:18.500 are the most ideal so because you would think damn it i'm really pale do you know what i did

00:18:26.940 get a spray tan when i was younger like once and it did look better so i gotta it really popped my

00:18:33.620 eyes but i just couldn't there's some stuff if i have to continually do it on a regular basis i'm

00:18:39.680 just not going to do it oh maybe this is just racist but you would is i thought the idea was

00:18:50.080 people value whiteness more and that's one of the great sins of our culture is that whiteness is

00:18:55.340 considered more beautiful than brownness or blackness but you're saying no it's the it's

00:18:59.540 the basically you need to sicilian max and then you're in a good spot yeah not necessarily i mean

00:19:04.480 it's it's also just a health indicator uh to be a little bit more tanned rather than completely pale

00:19:09.820 uh so so that's why people often prefer it so that's another part it could even be as simple

00:19:14.720 as getting leaner lean maxing uh is a big part of lux maxing and that's arguably the most important

00:19:20.440 thing that you could do because you can do all this you can get surgeries but at the end of the

00:19:24.900 If you're 20, 25% body fat, you're not even able to see any of your facial angularity

00:19:30.700 or definition.

00:19:31.700 You've got no idea what's underneath all of the sludge.

00:19:33.900 Okay.

00:19:34.900 So, you get rid of the sludge, you go on a good diet, you work out, and maybe, okay,

00:19:41.260 that's basic.

00:19:42.260 Everyone, yeah, okay.

00:19:43.260 You want to look better, you work out, and eat better.

00:19:45.500 Everyone knows that.

00:19:46.500 Everyone knows that.

00:19:47.500 Then, you raise the stakes a little bit, and you say, and inject yourself with things

00:19:50.200 like testosterone and other hormones.

00:19:52.700 Okay.

00:19:53.700 That raises it a little bit.

00:19:54.700 is that where it maxes out no so i'm uh getting a double jaw surgery and uh a couple weeks from now

00:20:01.980 um so that's probably the furthest it goes is plastic surgery what this is really ignorant

00:20:10.060 and i'm learning a lot sitting here okay what what do you mean a double jaw surgery so you're

00:20:15.180 not getting a second jaw no they they just perform now some people are saying they're saying but the

00:20:21.580 The girls are like, people always look weird when they have plastic surgery.

00:20:24.840 That's true.

00:20:25.380 Some people do, but it's, it's a calculated risk.

00:20:28.320 There's winners and losers.

00:20:30.420 There's winners and losers in this life.

00:20:36.260 Some, you know, some people look weird.

00:20:38.380 Some people look good.

00:20:40.260 Two osteotomies.

00:20:41.380 Meaning like one side and the other side?

00:20:42.960 No, no, no.

00:20:43.400 So your upper jaw, which is your max.

00:20:45.520 Oh, okay.

00:20:46.240 Yeah.

00:20:46.500 And your lower jaw, your mandible.

00:20:48.100 They're just doing an osteotomy on both of the jaws and then advancing them forward.

00:20:53.040 Now, why are you doing that? You're a good-looking guy.

00:20:55.740 Well, you know, because I want to look better, right?

00:20:59.260 Okay, before I ask my next question, why do you want to look better?

00:21:06.040 Meaning, look, I would get it if you looked like some mutant and you had some deformities

00:21:09.800 and it was really messing up your life, but you're tall, muscular, you've got defined bone features.

00:21:15.500 Why do you need to go further?

00:21:18.000 Well, I mean, you're already rich.

00:21:20.540 Why are we here right now doing this interview?

00:21:22.920 Because I think –

00:21:24.100 Oh, my God.

00:21:25.220 He cooked.

00:21:26.100 He cooked.

00:21:28.540 I don't think he's really –

00:21:30.200 Look, I mean, the jaw surgery would be a little extreme for me.

00:21:33.940 But look, you see these before and afters?

00:21:40.540 You just cannot –

00:21:41.600 There's a girl on my team who had jaw surgery,

00:21:43.680 and she looked way better after.

00:21:47.600 i mean come on guys let's just let's just be real

00:21:54.000 she looks way better after can we just

00:21:59.800 can we just look i just please stop being delusional

00:22:06.960 now i understand it's a risk and there's side effects and you might be a loser but i mean

00:22:13.440 even bbls i mean if women can't lose the weight they look better with a bbl than fat

00:22:18.900 so i mean i wouldn't get it personally but not around on you i i like uh i like having money

00:22:29.300 money's a nice thing to have but i don't really like spending money that much and so i'm happy

00:22:32.800 to make the money and get more money but i think there's more you get what i'm saying no but but i

00:22:37.060 think it's an important distinction glass house right michael mulls um throws a lot of stones

00:22:43.100 from a glass house that's his point i work for a lot more than money if i only wanted to make money

00:22:48.940 i would have gone into banking or consulting or something so i work for a lot more than that why

00:22:55.340 what are you working for when you get the double jaw surgery to look better and uh you know just

00:23:00.940 because you're already doing okay or you're well off is that a reason to to quit is that a reason

00:23:06.780 to sort of put the brakes on that seems a little ridiculous i would let me ask in another way yeah

00:23:11.260 you say what why do i need to keep working and i i say well in part it's to make more money and then

00:23:17.880 i can put my kids through school and maybe i can take them on a vacation or whatever but it's also

00:23:22.740 to spread the ideas that i care about it's also to uh so he's trying to michael knowles and that's

00:23:29.920 what a lot of the conservatives do he's saying i'm very moral you're not moral and that's why

00:23:34.740 we hate these fuckers that's why we can't stand them because that's half their platform is just

00:23:41.040 i am so moral you are not moral i mean that's what they do to me you know you're not married

00:23:45.680 you need to have kids blah blah blah blah it's like all right we get it we get it you are

00:23:51.360 you're more moral than me you win now can we can we move on you know

00:24:03.200 yeah virtue signaling it's like yeah come on i'm my money is good money and it's moral money

00:24:09.760 raise my political influence in ways that i think would help shape the country in a good way

00:24:13.600 it's also to spread my view of religion spread the gospel hopefully convert some people they

00:24:19.840 compare themselves to jesus they're basically god it's like well they compare themselves to the

00:24:25.600 apostles it's like i don't know if the apostles made millions of dollars off of evangelization i

00:24:33.520 I don't know.

00:24:36.980 You know what I mean?

00:24:43.340 There are myriad of reasons that I would continue to work.

00:24:46.820 But it would be doing the interview and doing the shows for those reasons.

00:24:51.360 And so what I'm asking you is, you already look good, what is looking better for?

00:25:00.540 So I'm someone who just wants to mog, essentially, and I've done this speech a few times.

00:25:09.100 I don't really care about getting girls.

00:25:11.980 That's kind of lost its novelty at this point.

00:25:15.180 I just want to mog people.

00:25:16.960 I want to have a better halo effect and just better overall quality of life through my

00:25:25.160 looks.

00:25:26.160 Look, sometimes a guy just wants to mog.

00:25:27.760 I totally get it.

00:25:28.760 Yeah, you know what I mean?

00:25:29.760 But this then brings us back to the spiritual point that I alluded to.

00:25:35.560 I could get the looks maxi if it were about getting a girl.

00:25:39.640 You couldn't get a girl, now you want to get a girl.

00:25:41.720 Now, getting a girl isn't just so you can...

00:25:43.100 That's a simp thought.

00:25:44.960 Because the pimps, they don't care about women because they've had too many women.

00:25:49.760 The sexless, they don't care about women because they've decided to opt out of the dating market

00:25:55.900 or they just realize they're not in the dating pool.

00:25:58.620 but it's the simps that they see everything being through women get laid in my humble opinion getting

00:26:05.740 a girl is is so is so that you can get married you can have a family and you can have kids and

00:26:10.860 you can that's kind of a simp thought because their end game is like a family that's women's end game

00:26:17.260 um men's end game has got to be being awesome you know

00:26:22.140 that's the the sexless and the pimps end games it's i'm going to be awesome

00:26:25.820 them, where the simps are always thinking about women.

00:26:30.860 Be part of your community, and it's for stuff.

00:26:36.000 I would get looks maxing if you say, well, so that I can get a better job because employers

00:26:40.320 are going to treat me better and they're going to promote me.

00:26:42.320 Okay, I see that's for something.

00:26:44.400 But if you're saying, if you're saying with a straight face, even with a new double-jaw

00:26:48.580 straight face, you say, look, man, I just want a mog, then I would have to ask, at that

00:26:54.340 point isn't looks maxing just vanity uh i would say in a lot of yeah so he's gonna say you're

00:27:01.860 vain and it's like okay well you're greedy because you like to make a lot of money

00:27:09.780 you know regards you know it could be perceived that way but that's my interpretation of it

00:27:15.860 uh and that's just my overall all thing and the word mog could mean so much right that

00:27:21.780 That could mean all the things that you just mentioned.

00:27:23.600 What do we mean by mog, I guess?

00:27:25.880 Just live.

00:27:27.160 What is a mogger?

00:27:28.400 A mogger.

00:27:28.800 That could be Matt Walsh's new movie.

00:27:29.860 A mogger is someone who's just, like, I would say, you know, the peak human.

00:27:37.800 And that's kind of what I'm going for.

00:27:39.880 And that's in all metrics, right?

00:27:41.240 I don't want to only mog in looks.

00:27:42.660 I also want a mog in wealth.

00:27:44.860 I also want a mog in status.

00:27:46.640 Just becoming as well-rounded, like a full-package mogger as I can.

00:27:50.520 I get that. And there's a lot that's admirable about that. But there is a part that you have

00:27:59.220 left out in your total mogging package, which is something we were just talking about. And I wonder

00:28:04.220 if- Spiritual aspect?

00:28:05.340 Yes. Does that cut against all of the other mogging? Is there any conflict there?

00:28:09.980 I don't think so. I really don't think so at all. There might be certain parts of religion,

00:28:16.640 whether it be Christianity, or I'm not sure if other people might be followers of Islam, that

00:28:21.980 might. Christianity is the true one. Don't worry. Don't worry about the other ones. Well, just to

00:28:25.940 acknowledge like whatever viewers are watching, but I would tend to agree with you. You know,

00:28:33.480 I'm not sure if there's different, you know, scripture about not modifying yourself to that

00:28:38.120 extent, you know. Well, in the old law, you can't have tattoos, but. I'm not much of a theologian,

00:28:45.400 so i couldn't speak to that too well there is a there is an uh you know what it but it doesn't

00:28:52.940 matter what he says because you guys all have botox i mean i don't know if noles does but you

00:28:58.240 guys are never going to not let women have botox and plastic surgery you're never going to take

00:29:02.420 it away from women so as long as you're like think about think about this candace owens has a pound

00:29:07.520 of makeup she was at the daily wire pound of makeup brett cooper pound of makeup candace owens

00:29:12.060 clearly is botox brett cooper will have botox one day it's not if it's one megan kelly botox

00:29:19.420 the the stuff that clavicular is doing is stuff that women have always done but if a man does it

00:29:24.780 they shame him for it so warning against in the christian religion

00:29:42.060 Against pride, you know, excessive love of one's own excellence, against vanity, against making idols out of the material things of this world.

00:29:51.960 These are some of the, if you wanted to be the greatest spiritual mogger, I do want.

00:29:56.120 I just, you guys are going to think of a better argument, but.

00:30:12.060 How are you, as a podcaster, going to lecture me about vanity?

00:30:16.280 Do you know what I mean?

00:30:19.960 I don't know.

00:30:21.220 It's just.

00:30:24.980 Yeah, I mean.

00:30:30.940 I wonder if that would conflict with mogging in all of these other areas.

00:30:35.400 Physically, in terms of wealth.

00:30:37.780 I could see how it could, but I don't really think that it necessarily would in my case.

00:30:41.840 Here's going to be one verse that I'm going to rewrite a little bit.

00:30:45.920 It is easier for the camel to pass through the eye of a needle

00:30:49.280 than for a wealth-maxed mogger to enter into the kingdom of heaven.

00:30:54.520 Okay. Interesting.

00:30:57.440 That's the MKV version of the Bible.

00:30:59.880 Yeah, so I don't really have too much regard for the spiritual aspect

00:31:05.220 when I'm trying to looks-max.

00:31:08.000 I'm kind of all in on what I'm doing right now,

00:31:10.840 and I'm not necessarily advocating against Christianity.

00:31:15.340 I think that there's a lot that can be gained from religion

00:31:18.440 and a lot of young men.

00:31:20.160 It's helped so many people,

00:31:21.840 but this is just my pursuit in the immediate moment.

00:31:25.660 Okay, so then bringing it back to more quotidian things,

00:31:29.000 you say, you said something earlier,

00:31:30.380 you said, look, I'm not doing it just to get girls.

00:31:33.020 The shine has rubbed off of that.

00:31:36.040 Do you have a girlfriend?

00:31:37.960 No.

00:31:38.560 No girlfriend.

00:31:39.640 Do you want a girlfriend?

00:31:40.840 Um, I'm a little bit young. I'm kind of focused on career right now.

00:31:46.320 I've heard a lot of my... But, you know, I had my first girlfriend when I was 12.

00:31:49.760 And maybe that's a little bit too young. And then I dated in high school.

00:31:54.780 Ended up marrying my high school sweetheart, albeit later.

00:31:57.740 And so, I don't know. I never found... I've heard this from my friends where they say,

00:32:01.020 I'm not focused on girls now. I'm going to have a career. I'm going to be established.

00:32:04.800 I'm going to make some money. And then I'll worry about dating and getting married when I'm 30.

00:32:09.000 conservatives kick the ladder out from under them they they use promiscuity to benefit

00:32:15.640 like women will use whoring like i said you know women will use whoring to get where they got

00:32:21.720 women will use makeup hair all that stuff to get to get to where they want to go men will use being

00:32:28.040 a player right like he went to new york and dated around he did gay scenes right to get where he

00:32:33.080 wanted to go and then say no you guys can't do it so 35 yeah no that's another cope because people

00:32:42.360 by the time they're 35 a lot of their youth indicators have gone um and they haven't really

00:32:48.680 gained enough progress to justify that looks decline with maybe the increase in an income and

00:32:55.800 and that kind of thing so i would i would say that's probably not a good idea but certainly

00:33:00.200 at 19 years old for me to put you know my career uh sort of at a halt or at least slow down you

00:33:07.260 know the traction that i've been gaining seems a little bit ridiculous does it need to just just

00:33:11.520 having a girlfriend or it does it does yeah why do you say that just in my personal case i mean

00:33:16.840 i do a lot of of content um that's you know talking to other girls or what he's saying

00:33:23.560 michael knowles he's saying i'm better than you because i'm married and that's what all these

00:33:28.060 people do that's why they're so despicable because it's like if you if you cared about your family so

00:33:33.040 much then why are you using them to advance your career and win arguments you know pursuing maybe

00:33:39.240 like one night stands sort of stuff wait you do content that involves like you're not a

00:33:48.220 pornographer no no no just like trying to go to like parties and slay okay so it's like is it

00:33:55.120 like pickup artist michael's gonna pretend but he lived in new york city he did the same thing

00:33:59.100 he's just gonna pretend he didn't right stuff no no no no just like testing out like

00:34:04.300 it's basically just like a litmus test like do i mog yet or like you know what i mean so like for

00:34:10.100 instance you would get the jaw surgeries and you say okay i thesis hypothesis i am gonna slay more

00:34:17.000 and mog harder yeah once i have the jaw surgery i will test this through the methodology of the

00:34:21.680 is this too fast i want to go to 1.5 tell me if it's too fast okay it's kind of the idea behind

00:34:26.640 it and also with streaming i stream uh every single day for hours i'm on my computer all day

00:34:31.340 i really wouldn't have the time to be a really an interesting partner for any woman that's for sure

00:34:35.460 would that maybe balance you out a little bit if you took an hour a day to go get a i don't even

00:34:38.620 i mean i'm gonna be honest with you um if i had an extra hour a day i would be using it at the gym

00:34:42.900 before i'd use it to go get a drink you know that seems a little not just to go get a drink but to

00:34:46.620 get a drink with a girl with a potential with a girlfriend with a potential wife with in other

00:34:49.840 words is your life a little bit out of balance are you thinking a little too much about

00:34:53.360 again remember michael knowles lived in new york city there's stuff of him doing gay stuff

00:34:59.520 and then magically when he's done he's like oh you can't do it and it's like well you guys did

00:35:07.260 that to get where you wanted to go so thing out yourself would it actually help you perhaps

00:35:13.720 to take that hour but but it's never an hour because let's actually break it down um so

00:35:18.620 So first of all, you've got to identify a girl, right?

00:35:22.280 Then you've got to shoot her a first inquiry,

00:35:24.120 whether it be an Instagram message or a cold approach.

00:35:27.420 So we're already like down two hours, right?

00:35:29.480 That just-

00:35:29.940 So how long does it take you to write?

00:35:30.860 You know, it takes me a long time to-

00:35:31.600 To find a hot girl these days?

00:35:33.500 Well, if you've got standards, it's literally two hours.

00:35:35.920 So you go around, you find this girl,

00:35:37.080 then you have to go and do an activity, God forbid.

00:35:39.980 That's like, you know, maybe four or five hours

00:35:42.160 doing some jester maxed like bowling

00:35:44.400 or whatever normie copes like Zoomers do.

00:35:47.520 So that's-

00:35:48.320 I got to ask before we move on. What is jester maxed?

00:35:52.820 Like, they're clowns.

00:35:54.320 When you go bowling with a girl? I don't think I've ever gone on a bowling date.

00:35:57.320 But why is doing an activity with a girl you want to date necessarily jester maxed?

00:36:03.820 Because you're just like this... I think of it like you're this big jester doing these silly activities.

00:36:09.820 You're basically just an activity cell. What are you doing? Bowling?

00:36:13.820 What if you become just a dinner cell, which is a less clownish activity?

00:36:16.820 Yeah, I'd say that's a little bit more reasonable, but we still have the same issue of the inconvenience, right, and the time, right? That's three hours.

00:36:23.180 No, you would be taking, you're right, you would be saying the time that I otherwise would be spending working out, injecting, jaw maxing, time that would be entirely focused on myself, I will be taking the three hours or four hours or however many hours to focus on another person and another person with whom I could maybe build a life.

00:36:39.780 Potentially, yeah.

00:36:40.520 But I would say that what's available to you and your options will increase drastically

00:36:44.280 if you instead dedicate those three, four hours into maximizing other metrics of your

00:36:48.600 life.

00:36:49.140 So now when it's finally time to enter the dating market and settle down with that long

00:36:52.340 term partner, you're more established as a man and you've got a lot more going for you.

00:36:56.080 Okay.

00:36:56.620 Here's my rejoinder to that.

00:36:59.360 This too, when you're talking about how you approach a girl, even that has this through

00:37:03.100 line of everything's up.

00:37:04.020 Look, you said waiting on the bowling date?

00:37:08.500 Drinks.

00:37:08.860 i don't know why men bother with dinner i don't know why they bother with bullying

00:37:13.900 the only thing you're trying to figure out on the first few dates is do you want to bang him

00:37:19.660 oh let's date about values are you dumb no no bitches don't have values

00:37:25.260 let's see if you're hot enough that she wants to adopt yours

00:37:31.260 oh but we want to talk about dating intentionally yeah

00:37:34.620 do you know what do you know what guys do when they hear that you're dating intentionally ladies

00:37:42.040 they intentionally lie and they say they just say you know and what about for the men if you're hot

00:37:49.300 enough if you say you're looking for a wife she'll start lying too we're both liars so let's just see

00:37:56.520 if we want to hook up okay let's just see if we if we're hot enough that we find each other

00:38:03.000 attractive i'm not saying the first date i'm not saying the second i mean however many like but

00:38:13.160 let's see how this progresses i mean are you accepting degeneracy are you a virgin

00:38:21.560 are you waiting till mary i mean come on can we just clav's gonna hit that later online your work

00:38:27.240 is online you discovered looks maxing online you found the drugs online you started swiping right

00:38:31.880 online and even now you're saying i can't even say like he's trying to shame him now

00:38:36.680 and saying oh you're super online michael everyone you know you've met online like where have you

00:38:43.560 been i mean the past five years everyone pretty much everyone i know i met online

00:38:50.440 i have not met many people in real life

00:38:55.960 yeah i know a christian guy waiting for marriage in his 50s you're gonna be waiting for the rest

00:39:00.360 your life so yeah what did i do during high school i'll tell you my high school schedule

00:39:13.400 three o'clock i'd get out of school then i have a two hour volleyball prep no basketball practice

00:39:18.520 then i would drive an hour and i would go to volleyball practice and that was another two

00:39:22.200 hours that was my high school so well if i want to approach a girl you know i got to find her and

00:39:30.840 i have to send her a dm and i i think that's just one avenue i i also acknowledge like the in-person

00:39:35.880 like the approach method yes but that's the first one that came to mind and i think that's probably

00:39:39.000 true for most people yeah and i think all right yeah that's true it's probably tough if i were

00:39:42.600 single today i'd be on the apps all the time however i think i would maybe i wouldn't i don't

00:39:46.440 know instagram mogs are especially like if you have a lot of followers um you're much better off

00:39:50.520 there that's true although then i'd kind of worry are they just after me for my you know like maxing

00:39:55.640 gram mugging you know or do they really love me well if you're just trying to go for like

00:39:59.480 uh you know one night stands and slay it doesn't really matter i would no longer be trying to slay

00:40:04.040 i would be trying to capture and marry oh i would not be i would find it to be sinful to fornication

00:40:11.480 max i would be avoiding that uh so then it makes me think all right yeah and so that's very

00:40:16.040 performative again michael you married in your late 20s you went to new york uh what were you

00:40:22.120 doing for that decade and you could see in his comment section it's a lot of women that just want

00:40:29.000 men like him to keep pushing these lies but let's let's just keep it a buck well i don't have to do

00:40:35.000 that now because i'm married and i did something very strange which is i married my high school

00:40:38.440 sweetheart we split up for a little bit but i married my high school sweetheart which people

00:40:42.120 used to do all the time and what did you do when you guys split up do you see what i'm saying it's

00:40:46.680 just i'm not stupid very few people do now and a lot of people will say don't marry your high

00:40:52.600 school sweetheart because especially if you're an ambitious self-improving looks maxer you're

00:40:56.600 uh the pool that you can pick from is going to be so much better uh five or ten years from now

00:41:00.680 when you're in the professional world and no the challenge is uh women aren't going to marry their

00:41:08.200 their high school sweetheart because they can go party with celebrities in the cities so

00:41:11.800 that's some wealth and status right i have anecdotally observed but the plural of anecdote

00:41:18.760 is data that the the best marriages i've ever seen have been people who knew each other when

00:41:24.820 they were very young and kids even which is not online which is not about status really because

00:41:30.280 no one everyone's kind of equal in school uh which is not primarily physical obviously you

00:41:35.360 You have to have a physical attraction, but you're not grading people on scales.

00:41:38.600 It seems to be totally the opposite of everything you're describing in the modern dating market.

00:41:42.440 But might that old way be better?

00:41:43.840 I don't really disagree with you there about the whole high school sweetheart thing,

00:41:47.800 because that's like a theory that we talk about called just be first in the Luxmax community.

00:41:53.120 And the idea behind that is all the pair bonding abilities remain intact if you're, you know,

00:41:57.800 marrying, you know, young and both partners are virgins, especially the woman.

00:42:02.360 know, that tends to lead to more everlasting relationships, lower divorce rates. I think

00:42:06.900 the data absolutely agrees with you there. I'm just simply saying that in my case, it

00:42:11.740 would be a comical idea to put my career at a standstill for a girlfriend because that

00:42:17.360 is almost required. It's very rare that you're able to progress to the degree that you otherwise

00:42:21.800 would be with a long-term partner.

00:42:24.660 Well, certainly in what you do, if part of what you do involves you going out and picking

00:42:28.960 up chicks, then you could not have a girlfriend while you were doing that.

00:42:31.040 Well, I also, you know, work pretty much all hours that I'm awake.

00:42:34.400 Yeah.

00:42:34.660 So I'm an incredibly boring person.

00:42:37.260 That's true, though.

00:42:37.860 You know, that is something I have to fight.

00:42:39.780 I work all the time.

00:42:40.780 I don't have a real job, but I work all the time.

00:42:42.000 So I'd almost feel bad, like, you know, being in a serious relationship

00:42:46.400 and just being, like, the most boring, awful person ever.

00:42:48.960 But you, but, well, would you be boring?

00:42:50.840 No, you might work a lot.

00:42:51.640 You might have to fight to make time, you know, for your girlfriend.

00:42:53.880 I wouldn't.

00:42:54.080 But would you be boring?

00:42:54.740 And maybe you wouldn't want to do that.

00:42:56.440 Why would you be boring?

00:42:57.300 well i mean it's it's not really interesting when all you're doing is sitting on your computer like

00:43:02.540 doing a show all the time um you're interesting enough that people watch it oh absolutely but

00:43:06.520 you know unless the girlfriend wants to tune into the streams and become a viewer um if she's just

00:43:12.340 on the sidelines it's not really that interesting i don't know do you agree with that i would

00:43:15.960 disagree with that because i work all the time and look it's a little different i'm married i

00:43:19.100 have kids i have many reasons to yeah and the thing is conservatives their solutions don't work

00:43:25.200 People aren't getting, like I'm telling you guys, this will waste years of your life.

00:43:34.800 They push solutions that are just not pragmatic anymore.

00:43:40.020 Get offline.

00:43:43.720 That's kind of stupid in 2025.

00:43:47.360 Most of the best opportunities I've had were online.

00:43:50.940 and it's comical coming from michael knowles who lives online

00:43:56.560 like he's saying i'm gonna go online but you should be real life and we're like uh

00:44:05.600 okay you know carve out as much time as i can to not be on the road and to not be working

00:44:10.540 but i endeavor to cultivate other interests and other desires and other loves beyond

00:44:16.060 politics or whatever it is that i do selling cigars and this online is his job not his

00:44:23.680 enjoyment how convenient that's just always how it's just oh i just have to use all the technology

00:44:29.980 everyone else is using ah ah yeah it's feel good solutions because it's for women i wonder

00:44:40.000 i wonder if that is missing from the looks maxing idea meaning while you're looks maxing and doing

00:44:45.060 the attendant, wealth maxing, and all the other stuff. We've talked about maybe a neglect

00:44:49.520 of the spiritual maxing, but what about even like book maxing? What about even cultivating

00:44:53.440 loves for art or culture or things that yet again are not exactly physical, which make

00:44:59.300 you interesting and will make girls find you interesting.

00:45:01.400 No, I absolutely agree with you. It's just like, what are you going to dedicate your

00:45:03.920 time to? And once again, I believe that once you start, you have to be like pedal to the

00:45:09.520 metal with your career, especially these days with how competitive the job market is and

00:45:13.840 everything so it's just about you know the return on time investment for anything that you do if you

00:45:19.100 believe that you could get more value reading a book for two hours then uh you know maybe learning

00:45:23.660 skill if that's going to help you just in terms of your mental well-being then then fine you know

00:45:28.160 everyone's got a different uh answer to what works for them so i'm not necessarily disagreeing with

00:45:32.160 you i'm just saying what works for me anecdotally and it's kind of crazy how much i can't believe

00:45:36.240 this kid's 19 and he thinks very like pragmatically or michael thinks idealistically so michael's

00:45:43.500 representing women, obviously. And clavicular is saying, well, what works? What do you get a high

00:45:50.920 ROI on your time for? Are you in college? No, I actually got expelled from college.

00:45:56.260 All right. Well, then forget my question. Why'd you get expelled from college?

00:45:58.020 For luxmaxing, essentially, I got caught with steroids in my dorm room and I got kicked out.

00:46:02.560 I only lasted three weeks. Wow. I know other people who got booted from college. Three weeks

00:46:07.140 is fast. Yeah. I'd say I probably set the record with that. The reason I ask about college is

00:46:11.300 people think today college is about just going and learning a skill and getting a job

00:46:14.980 and, you know, making a lot of money. That's really not what it's for. What it's supposed

00:46:18.300 to be for is actually not learning any skills. It's for reading old books and thinking about

00:46:22.580 abstract mathematics and science and cultivating an inner life and, you know, familiarizing

00:46:27.800 yourself with the greatest that our civilization has to offer and thinking even about eternal

00:46:31.520 things. And then you can go either grad school or an apprenticeship, learn on the job, do

00:46:35.360 something else. But it's about the idea that there is more to life than looks and that this

00:46:39.820 make you a more interesting person it will make you a more interested person and that this is

00:46:43.580 at least as important as how you look and maybe maybe much more important go to balance of nature

00:46:49.180 dot com tis the season wherever it's so crazy how he's saying you're

00:46:56.140 just the moralists are the most annoying to claim this offer today i think that the actual

00:47:03.260 interpretation of what college is supposed to be uh like you just mentioned is amazing you know

00:47:07.740 people with higher intellect going to to do these studies is a wonderful thing and that's how you

00:47:12.220 have a great society but in the modern context we're just sending everyone off to college

00:47:17.020 universally yeah and it doesn't really make sense to educate people with lesser intellect because

00:47:22.140 they don't have the capability to necessarily put these skills into practice they're probably going

00:47:25.980 to be working blue collar jobs in a lot of cases it's just kind of like a thing that people do now

00:47:30.140 without and and they get two hundred thousand dollars worth of debt as their reward yeah so

00:47:34.380 i think that college shouldn't be as universal as just like a thing that you do i totally agree

00:47:39.100 with that be like a very sought after thing for the upper echelon uh you know people but but part

00:47:44.140 of yes i agree with that part of what college endeavors to do can be replicated elsewhere

00:47:47.500 though which is to make people to make people well-rounded to make people have multiple facets

00:47:52.460 to their life and you you mentioned earlier you said you know i'm a little bit autistic a little

00:47:55.580 touch of the tism and i think that's true for a lot of people these days whether we're talking

00:47:58.860 about real autism or just kind of habits of mind that singularly focus people especially men

00:48:03.100 especially right-wing men especially online men

00:48:07.500 wouldn't it be good to be a little well-rounded do you ever do you have that desire or no you

00:48:11.500 say yes i picked my lane i am i am the looks again he's trying to sarcastically like put him

00:48:17.740 down subtly and just say you're autistic you just can't get a girlfriend that's why you're doing it

00:48:23.340 but i think clavicular is doing really well um i think he he actually seemed you you know

00:48:30.140 he actually seems pretty on point. I even think about it myself because clavicular kind of says

00:48:38.600 to just do things the fastest way you can. I lost a bunch of weight naturally, and sometimes I wish

00:48:43.720 I just did Ozempic because it took me so long. It's like by the time I lost the weight, I was old.

00:48:48.480 You know what I mean?

00:48:50.640 Maxer, broadcaster, live streamer, and I'm just going to do that to the nth degree. Everything

00:48:54.620 else be damned. I would say that I am pretty well-rounded. It's just I have a very different

00:48:58.900 idea on what's actually important to fit that definition um so like a thing that i often speak

00:49:04.360 out against is young people getting into politics yeah so that would probably be something i don't

00:49:09.000 know if you agree i totally agree with that you know so so that's an example oh well you're not

00:49:12.840 you know maybe people would contest that with oh you're not well-rounded you don't have like a good

00:49:16.660 grasp on like geopolitics and i'm like well yeah that's intentional because i find it to be extremely

00:49:21.060 silly uh to advocate for young people who don't have a lot going for them they maybe have like a

00:49:26.040 a very low credit score, low income, and they're worried about, you know, foreign wars or something

00:49:30.780 like that. That's something that I've always been extremely outspoken on. I agree. Look,

00:49:35.020 civic engagement is good, but these, you know, for a 14-year-old to be, you know, waking up in

00:49:39.900 terror at night because of climate change or some nonsense, some war overseas, I think is

00:49:43.500 totally disordered. So I entirely agree with that. But because you got into this so young,

00:49:50.780 Because you're still so young, wouldn't you maybe, couldn't you apply the same kind of reasoning to a young clavicular and say, hey, maybe don't get so obsessed with this one thing so young.

00:50:02.300 Maybe round it out a little bit.

00:50:03.860 Well, the problem is, like we discussed, it's a now or never thing with a lot of these growth pathways.

00:50:07.800 So you can either optimize them and ascend past what was possible genetically without the intervention of pharmaceuticals, or you can just cope and never have the success that you otherwise could have.

00:50:18.740 How long is the recovery for the jaw surgery?

00:50:20.800 It's going to be about three weeks of extreme swelling.

00:50:24.420 And I would say for 100% of the swelling to go down, it'd be about six months.

00:50:30.440 But after three weeks, you're pretty much looking how you will.

00:50:34.680 Just a gradual decline in that final push of swelling.

00:50:37.900 Have any of the doctors said, hey, man, you don't really need this surgery,

00:50:41.460 and this is kind of gratuitous, and maybe you're a little wrong in your thinking here,

00:50:46.420 and maybe there's even a touch of body dysmorphia?

00:50:49.520 Have any of them suggested that?

00:50:52.240 No, not really.

00:50:53.720 So you just go in, you say, hey, I'm a big beefcake, Chad-looking guy,

00:50:57.240 and I want to give you a bunch of money.

00:50:58.560 How much money does it cost?

00:50:59.500 $35,000.

00:51:00.400 $35,000?

00:51:01.000 Okay, so you go in, you say, hey, I'm a 19-year-old guy.

00:51:03.880 I want to give you $35,000 to make me look even more giga, even more Chaddy.

00:51:10.640 And they just say, okay, thanks.

00:51:12.440 Yeah, swipe the Amex here.

00:51:13.680 Well, because nobody, in a lot of cases, the double jaw surgeries that I'm talking about

00:51:17.720 with the cosmetic implants, that's an elective thing, right? Sure, certainly double jaw exists

00:51:22.700 as a way to fix horrible airways and sleep apnea, but in my case-

00:51:26.920 Figurment from a car accident or something.

00:51:28.180 Yeah, right. But a lot of the times it would be just sleep apnea and breathing related issues

00:51:32.380 would be the main cause for jaw surgery, but that's severe recession and severe developmental

00:51:38.060 issues. But most people in the modern era actually do need jaw surgery because they have dental

00:51:44.300 crowding. They don't have enough space in their mouth to even accommodate for their teeth.

00:51:47.720 um, because of, of whether it be just poor development, poor breathing habits as a kid.

00:51:51.720 So I would say that the majority of people would actually need jaw surgery to fit within the ideals of looks.

00:51:57.720 Where does a 19 year old get $35,000?

00:52:00.720 Um, so after I got kicked out of college, it was kind of a rough time for me.

00:52:04.720 And what kept me going was, uh, how much I was working.

00:52:07.720 I was working 70, 80 hours a week at a restaurant trying to afford the jaw surgery

00:52:11.720 because I felt like that was my way out in life.

00:52:13.720 That was how I was going to ascend and, you know, improve upon everything.

00:52:17.720 Ascend in looks.

00:52:19.720 Ascend in every regard.

00:52:20.720 In society.

00:52:21.720 Yeah, just ascend as a person.

00:52:22.720 So you want, when was this?

00:52:23.720 This was in 2020, so last year.

00:52:25.720 This is pretty recent.

00:52:26.720 Yeah.

00:52:27.720 So you get booted out of college.

00:52:28.720 You're working, what was the job?

00:52:29.720 I was working at a restaurant.

00:52:30.720 Working at a restaurant.

00:52:31.720 And you say, okay, the reason I'm working all the time is so that I can afford to improve my jaw.

00:52:38.720 Yes, because I figured the return on investment would be comically high, right?

00:52:42.720 you improve that much in looks, the opportunities that are going to be available to you

00:52:46.640 will absolutely exceed the $35,000 investment.

00:52:50.480 Where do you get your certainty that that's the case?

00:52:53.780 Just what I've seen in society, a lot of anecdotes.

00:52:57.240 We look at a lot of the come-ups for famous people.

00:53:00.480 They'll get scouted for being famous actors or models.

00:53:03.080 Actors, yes.

00:53:04.880 For example, Jordan Barrett got scouted to be a model, who's one of the top looks-macks.

00:53:09.160 People were scouted while he's stealing.

00:53:11.280 There's this other guy named Jeremy Meeks.

00:53:12.820 I don't know if you've heard of.

00:53:14.560 So he committed a felony, and he had a mugshot where a lot of girls on Facebook liked him.

00:53:19.560 They thought he was good-looking, so they bailed him out,

00:53:21.120 and then he got a $1 million modeling contract.

00:53:23.100 So that's what's available to you once you hit that top percentile of looks.

00:53:27.200 You could pretty much do anything, and your life will be easy.

00:53:30.660 I don't know that I—I'm not saying I doubt the stories,

00:53:33.080 but I don't know if you would use those stories as the model for life,

00:53:37.360 saying, you know what I've got to do?

00:53:38.420 I've got to be really hot and commit a felony,

00:53:40.160 and that's my pathway to well just being being that good looking being like the top like 0.01

00:53:45.120 percentile of men in terms of looks it's just a guarantee for success like you can't lose there's

00:53:50.800 really no losing so i'm i i'm not sure about this i've got a few more years than you but

00:53:55.280 absolutely there's no losing when you're that uh level of looks i know in today's day and age

00:53:59.760 i know people are saying he's gonna look like madonna i don't think a man obsessed with it

00:54:05.280 we'll see we'll see right but i don't know men just do things better than women so if a man looks

00:54:11.760 max's i just i think they're gonna do it better than women do because they're actually gonna do

00:54:16.480 research where women just believe whatever lies the doctors tell them look look maybe this is

00:54:20.800 generations past i know good looking people guys and girls who have not had much terrestrial success

00:54:27.120 and i grant you it's very important in show business in broadcast professions interacting

00:54:31.040 whatever but i also know a lot of very very successful people in the kind of worldly way

00:54:36.560 and in the spiritual way and sometimes in both who are not even close they are very looks moderated

00:54:41.920 they are maybe even looks minimized and i know many examples of that and i do i can think of

00:54:47.520 counter examples of like hot people i mean isn't this is kind of the the joke or the meme is like

00:54:52.640 the guy and the girl who were really hot you know in high school they don't have a lot of success

00:54:56.640 in their lives and you know the nerd is the one who goes off to school and i gotta be honest that's

00:55:01.260 just not what i've seen i knew a girl that got a boob job when she was 18 and it looked very real

00:55:08.680 and um she loves it had it forever got endless opportunities i know another woman that got a

00:55:20.220 bbl you can't tell i couldn't tell look it it's some people win some people lose

00:55:31.100 yeah i mean it's just there's plastic surgery there's winners and losers it's calculated risks

00:55:37.660 yeah jeremy meeks he was born hot

00:55:42.460 i don't know but you have to understand there's millions of dollars in this industry

00:55:46.060 they they do something right the billionaire i mean that that seems to be more the stereotype

00:55:50.640 that's just not what we're seeing in today's day and age with social media i would say that that's

00:55:54.380 probably how it was for a while but now when you're just able to open up instagram or tiktok

00:56:00.520 and put a picture of yourself when you're that good looking and you know get extreme success and

00:56:05.160 brand deals and stuff like that and influence it yeah yeah so that's like a no-brainer right it's

00:56:10.740 guaranteed when you're good looking you don't even um if you want to join the audacity channel

00:56:15.340 we might be switching it soon so you can if you want it's the audacity network.com um

00:56:23.500 we just got to figure out this next month i'm going to figure out what i'm doing with like

00:56:29.100 all of these websites and like e-commerce and it's it's on my process but yeah if you want to

00:56:36.540 or if you want to donate to the divorce documentary it's in the go links in the description go for

00:56:41.740 It would have to be an interesting persona to do well on social media with good looks.

00:56:45.060 Surely you would admit there are plenty of good-looking people on social media

00:56:48.220 who don't get lucrative brand deals.

00:56:50.700 I would say that just like where I was,

00:56:52.640 like working in a restaurant versus achieving success on social media,

00:56:56.500 like I would have done better, absolutely.

00:56:58.180 So that would have been a return on investment that made sense.

00:57:00.640 Right, no, but you're saying looking good.

00:57:02.960 If you look really, really good and you have Instagram,

00:57:04.800 that's a guarantee of professional success and lucrative success.

00:57:07.580 I'm just saying there are plenty of hot people on social media

00:57:09.740 who aren't that successful.

00:57:10.480 um then you know that's also people who are are low iq as well but uh i would say that that's a

00:57:16.160 very rare thing is that is that even true i bet most hot people on social media don't get a lot

00:57:20.880 of likes and certainly don't get brand but what what are we talking about by hot like good looking

00:57:23.780 like some people think that like sydney sweeney is uh extremely attractive um i i would say i don't

00:57:29.420 want to scandalize anybody married man i would say sydney sweeney is is very attractive i would

00:57:34.080 say that she's pretty malformed um her upper maxilla is extremely recessed right she's got

00:57:39.060 the i've been saying sydney sweeney you know she's better looking than me but she's just not

00:57:45.620 that attractive um facially uh she's got really good body but i totally agree with where he's

00:57:55.160 going with this really good body beautiful hair i think hair helps a lot but yeah eyes of doom

00:58:01.280 with no infraorbital support she's really not that much of a looker in her face i think that

00:58:05.320 a lot of people with porn brains find her attractive because of her body i don't have

00:58:08.520 a porn brain no well you're telling me that you're telling me if a guy finds sydney sweeney

00:58:13.000 attractive he's got to have no i think that she's uh above average in looks but certainly not that

00:58:16.760 like you know you said she's got a sunken suborbital i forget the words that you said

00:58:21.400 yeah she's got a recessed uh infra orbitals and a recessed upper maxilla you're telling me you go

00:58:27.160 you go to a bar i'm just saying she's not the the pinnacle of looks that i'm talking about to

00:58:31.480 actually succeed on social media she's average to above average just pretty successful doesn't that

00:58:35.880 make doesn't that more bode for my side of the argument that looks is not the uh one-to-one

00:58:39.800 guarantee of success even by your low estimation of how she looks well that doesn't you know argue

00:58:44.440 with my principle at all that if someone is actually the nine out of ten looks level that

00:58:48.600 we're talking about the top percentile that they'll be famous i'm just simply stating that

00:58:52.280 she's not that top echelon so who's really beautiful well if we're talking about um just

00:58:59.080 like supermodels someone that i wouldn't recognize anybody but someone that the audience might

00:59:02.680 recognize like we'll talk about like supermodels like you know giselle bunchon and taylor hill

00:59:07.640 like the top like victoria was she the one giselle bunchon yeah giselle bunch and young

00:59:13.480 like come on i mean come on her facial harmony is so much better like this is just not even close

00:59:22.840 in terms of like maybe not now um

00:59:25.000 for whatever reason i don't think her her face didn't age very well like i just think it went

00:59:33.260 down a lot but you see what i'm saying like young she was stunning way better way better

00:59:40.420 was she the one married to tom brady correct yes right so you think she's hotter than sydney

00:59:44.020 sweeney absolutely no that's ridiculous to suggest no way they're different ages i guess so maybe i'm

00:59:48.540 grading that curve yeah i mean maybe like her recently would probably not be as great but

00:59:52.660 In her prime, yeah, absolutely.

00:59:54.320 Blows out of the water.

00:59:55.320 Why?

00:59:56.120 Well, because of her facial harmony scores, right?

00:59:58.820 There's measurements that you could take of everyone's face

01:00:00.800 to figure out exactly how attractive they are.

01:00:03.000 It's an objective thing.

01:00:04.180 The only thing that would make looks objective

01:00:05.460 was like some people may prefer like more tan skin

01:00:09.420 versus pale skin like we were talking about before.

01:00:11.440 But even then, it's...

01:00:12.040 I agree that beauty is an objective thing.

01:00:14.260 So I totally disagree with the modern conception

01:00:15.880 that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

01:00:17.660 I think it's a cope.

01:00:18.100 And I do think, I'm with St. Thomas Aquinas,

01:00:19.660 that part of what is beautiful is harmony.

01:00:22.660 You know, he's harmonizing, radiance and things like that.

01:00:24.800 Symmetry.

01:00:25.480 Yeah, so absolutely.

01:00:26.140 So that's simply what I'm stating is, you know, there might be a false idea of what's

01:00:30.880 actually that good looking.

01:00:31.800 If, you know, Sidney Sweeney were to apply that principle, start posting on social media

01:00:34.700 without acting, oh, where's my brand deals?

01:00:36.620 It's like, well, you're not who we're talking about.

01:00:38.340 Now, hold on.

01:00:38.760 Why did you conclude that people who think Sidney Sweeney is attractive use pornography?

01:00:44.200 What is it about porn that would lead you to that conclusion?

01:00:46.400 I think a lot of what they like about her is, you know, her breasts and probably just

01:00:51.760 her body and that's generally like a very like gunner porn consumer mentality but what about

01:00:56.880 just her face you know what you should say you say she doesn't have a pretty face i would say

01:00:59.520 that she's probably right on around average wow slightly above wow okay i would yeah i wouldn't

01:01:04.480 agree with that but i think if you put her her head onto an average chick's body she would be

01:01:10.800 pretty much invisible outside of like you know a third world country now okay i'm very curious about

01:01:16.160 the the pornification of it all because it this ties into what you've been talking about from the

01:01:20.080 beginning, which is your whole Looksmaxing journey has been online. It's been revolving around every

01:01:27.040 step of the way. And what is the definitive, I don't know, content of the internet? It's just

01:01:32.640 porn from the earliest days. Well, that's just the new look that you're seeing pushed by,

01:01:36.960 I don't know, globalism or whatever is like the thick thing where you're seeing like all these

01:01:41.760 girls who have like, you know, a lot more body fat, but their faces might be chubbier because,

01:01:47.840 you know they're going to have more more fat now in their uh you know in their breasts so that's

01:01:52.800 kind of just like a new thing that's being pushed and you're in import you're saying fat girls are

01:01:56.880 being pushed in pornography no not necessarily fat just like you know higher body fat whereas

01:02:00.960 you know you would see in like the 90s in the early 2000s like with modeling it was like a very

01:02:04.560 skinny look the face was very angular and um that i would say that porn probably did the most damage

01:02:10.720 to to uh you know what's pushed there was a lot of porn in the 90s i don't know you weren't around

01:02:15.440 But it wasn't accessible by every 12-year-old with an iPad.

01:02:18.440 Yeah, well, it wasn't iPads, it was computers.

01:02:20.440 Internet porn, look, there were...

01:02:21.440 It's much worse now.

01:02:22.440 It's a lot worse because the Internet's faster.

01:02:24.440 There were pieces of legislation to combat this in the 90s.

01:02:26.440 It was the Communications Decency Act and the Child Online Protection Act

01:02:29.440 because there was this flood of porn all over the Internet.

01:02:31.440 It really started in the 90s, and they both got shot down by judges, unfortunately.

01:02:34.440 The reason the porn thing is interesting to me on this topic is it's so online.

01:02:40.440 All of this is so profoundly online.

01:02:43.440 And one of the evils of pornography is it reduces humanity merely to the physical.

01:02:49.340 I'm very anti-porn myself, yeah.

01:02:50.860 I think it ruins your dopamine system.

01:02:52.720 It's going to give you a very bad perception of how women are in the actual real life

01:02:58.800 because a lot of it's just acting.

01:03:00.140 It's all fake.

01:03:00.840 All of fantasy.

01:03:01.320 Yeah, so that has done a lot of damage for people,

01:03:03.880 especially with the recent stuff like OnlyFans and just how widespread it is,

01:03:09.340 you know, stuff being all over Twitter.

01:03:11.040 It's really not good.

01:03:11.720 And I'm simply saying that just like the look of women has been vastly altered.

01:03:18.280 Yeah, I certainly agree, or I strongly suspect, what do I know?

01:03:21.800 I haven't read all the studies, but I strongly suspect that porn so screws up people's brains

01:03:25.880 that it changes their desires and what they consider attractive.

01:03:27.960 I totally agree with that.

01:03:28.900 My point, I guess, is one of the evils of pornography is it reduces people who are,

01:03:34.140 you know, these integral human beings with soul and body.

01:03:36.920 It reduces them to the physical.

01:03:38.620 So it's just, you know, meatbags bumping uglies on a screen.

01:03:40.920 it's even one level abstracted yeah but isn't isn't that a commonality with looks maxing which

01:03:45.200 is to reduce the human person down to the level of the physical the physical being the most important

01:03:48.620 yeah so again it's just it's michael knoll's finger wagging right it's you're net you're a

01:03:54.500 bad person i'm a good person and we are tired we are we're exhausted we get it you are amazing

01:04:00.680 we're not amazing um i would say that yeah it's not far from the truth you know but it's just

01:04:08.460 what needs to be done in society you need to to improve upon this metric you know we could do you

01:04:12.660 though you do i don't feel like i do i mean listen i in my mind because you've achieved success in

01:04:17.580 other regards well and it's completely preposterous for michael knowles to to criticize looks maxing

01:04:25.600 when he is absolutely looks maxed in media i've been to the daily wire you guys have a giant

01:04:32.860 costume and makeup room shut the fuck up like do you know do you know how i feel

01:04:39.940 i mean i look smacks some days right i got bangs recently but i i'm not like i'm a lazy

01:04:46.380 looks maxer i guess but i can't even die my whatever you know but

01:04:53.300 i've seen like i'm i'm struggle streaming here you guys looks max your sets they build a new

01:05:08.120 set every time so not only you guys have perfect lighting you have a tailored suit custom made for

01:05:15.100 you and you're gonna you're gonna lecture us about looks max shut the fuck shut up you know what i

01:05:25.680 mean to such uh other regards are you suggesting i'm not looks max um no i would say that you know

01:05:34.540 obviously anyone who does media is going to be reasonably good looking right so take it take it

01:05:40.160 Yeah, so, no, you've achieved success at such a high level that maybe you could make up for not fully looks-maxing or not taking, like, the double jaw surgery route.

01:05:49.380 Like, you know, you're a huge host of a massive show, you know, so that status might be able to carry you rather than, you know, having to...

01:05:56.980 Okay, but let's say that I weren't.

01:05:57.900 I appreciate all the compliments, and I'm like, this is nice.

01:05:59.880 I'll take it.

01:06:01.160 I'll take a broad, you know, I haven't looks minimized at least.

01:06:03.920 But let's say that all that wasn't true.

01:06:05.380 And let's say that I were a guy, and I were, I don't know, even more looks minimized.

01:06:11.740 And I was fashion minimized, and I didn't have a show, and I didn't check certain status markers.

01:06:18.520 And let's say I were just a guy married to a nice gal, and maybe she wasn't even that good looking.

01:06:23.800 Maybe let's say we had a nice family, and we had some kids, and we were living in a house.

01:06:27.320 It's fine, but not that nice.

01:06:28.720 And, you know, I made some money, but not a ton, and we had, like, a car that was okay.

01:06:32.060 And we went out to dinner every so often, and maybe we got to go to the beach once a year.

01:06:34.940 And by all of the metrics that we're talking about, you know, I wasn't mad.

01:06:40.120 Respect for not going to the ozempic route.

01:06:42.780 All plastic surgery is a slap to Christ.

01:06:45.300 He made us, none of us the same for a reason.

01:06:48.300 We need to embrace the beauty in that.

01:06:50.340 Happy New Year.

01:06:51.120 I don't really agree, to be honest.

01:06:58.400 I don't really agree with that.

01:07:00.600 Like, if God gave you crooked teeth, you can't fix them.

01:07:04.940 um i wish i did ozempic but i'm too i'm too close to my goal i'm too close at this point i might like

01:07:17.980 do you guys really think i'm all natural really i'm a hundred percent natural

01:07:24.460 truly this is how i know you got like come on

01:07:34.940 No, I haven't done Ozempic, but I'm just saying, like, I'm a girl in media.

01:07:57.620 I'm a woman in media, really.

01:08:04.940 And I've done nothing, nothing, truly nothing.

01:08:34.940 okay okay sure you know it's like now look

01:08:41.360 I haven't done much but like guys there's no woman in conservative media that's 100% natural

01:09:01.440 can we just can we just like bruh

01:09:07.920 yeah you think i'm gonna tell you i'm not that stupid sorry i'm not that i'm not gonna go

01:09:17.600 oh so it can be clipped and used against me for the rest of my life yeah no

01:09:24.640 with pearl you know what your kids are gonna look like will you really really truly

01:09:31.440 now they're all guessing

01:09:40.040 and they're guessing wrong

01:09:43.660 they're guessing wrong

01:09:47.360 But I thought you guys could tell

01:10:02.260 You think I got lip filler?

01:10:08.360 If I got lip filler

01:10:09.360 I would have thicker lips than this

01:10:17.360 No, no, no, look at, it's very little, it's not much.

01:10:47.360 See, this is the biggest. Guys will say, well, I don't like it. I dated a girl, and she had this done, and I hated it. And I'm like, well, but you dated her. Do you see what I'm saying? I'm like, why didn't you go pick the natural one?

01:11:03.060 you know what i mean

01:11:06.760 that's like when you say um when women say we like nice guys

01:11:17.720 then you're like well who was your last boyfriend you're like well

01:11:25.480 next out at all but mightn't it very likely be the case that i would be happier more more

01:11:31.980 flourishing than the richer, better looking, more professionally successful guy? Or you say,

01:11:37.840 no, that's a fairytale. Well, yeah, I'd say that's a really nice idea. And like in theory,

01:11:42.660 potentially, but that's just not what we're seeing. I've seen it. I'm not going to call

01:11:46.360 anybody out, but I've seen it. Yeah. I mean, maybe you've seen it once or twice. I'm sure

01:11:49.620 most people watching out, but that's just not what we're seeing on average across the country,

01:11:53.860 right? I'm saying that, yes, I agree with that. On average across the country, I bet that's true.

01:11:58.120 However, the whole country isn't made equal.

01:12:01.080 And so, for instance, if I go to an average bar in Brooklyn,

01:12:05.860 I'm going to get a different sliver of society

01:12:07.380 than if I go to a traditional Latin mass in Wisconsin.

01:12:11.120 I actually don't see much of a difference.

01:12:13.200 I think women are women, people are people.

01:12:16.080 I grew up in Catholic school.

01:12:18.840 It's not that different anywhere.

01:12:20.820 And I guess my point is, it's kind of even silly

01:12:23.200 to create an average of those things

01:12:24.740 because they're such radically different types of communities.

01:12:27.580 and uh it is everything that i see is that and that's what they want to sell you that these

01:12:31.900 communities are special and different they're not they're the same people who are especially

01:12:37.660 who are religiously active but who are civically engaged who are charitable who are not thinking

01:12:41.260 about themselves all the time we're thinking about others and their countrymen those people

01:12:44.380 tend to be happier i think they're flourishing on way more levels of success at a higher level

01:12:48.380 than the people who live in this very modern secular largely online kind of world and so i

01:12:54.620 I would just say, if you really wanted to max out your potential, isn't there an argument to say,

01:12:58.300 actually, put down the testosterone, put down the camera, put down the internet,

01:13:01.640 go move to some weirdo parish in the middle of nowhere and find some nice...

01:13:06.340 I've seen not good-looking guys marry definitely hotter girls and have a nice family

01:13:10.340 and have a kind of life that isn't even considered on the table in our modern culture.

01:13:15.080 I'm sure that we probably agree on most of this stuff, like what's ideal,

01:13:18.380 like being super in touch with your faith.

01:13:21.160 but at the end of the day all the stuff that you're talking about is just idealism it's not

01:13:25.680 realistic i'm telling you i've seen people do it yeah i regularly see people do it because i

01:13:29.240 travel a lot i i don't i wouldn't suggest that that's i don't see people doing it i don't see

01:13:33.620 i grant you and a lot of the um i have seen men date out of their league with their college

01:13:38.580 sweetheart um but she usually divorces him later so country you don't see it but there are there

01:13:46.340 are places where it happens there are communities where it happens so don't we have to consider

01:13:49.920 but from a sociological lens just we're looking at an entire society and the direction we're moving

01:13:54.960 so you know if that's still the case now which you know you've probably seen more than me you've

01:13:59.200 got a few more years on me um but that's certainly the direction society's headed is towards what i'm

01:14:04.560 talking about i think you would agree with me there i would i i don't think that's a good thing

01:14:08.800 but i would in that case i would say why would you swim with the screen yeah yeah so the michael

01:14:14.320 knowles is basically sacrificing you for his world for the sorry he wants young men to sacrifice

01:14:21.920 themselves for the world that he wants he wants young men to get married do the hard jobs um

01:14:27.120 live like a rural lifestyle even though it doesn't benefit the young men it benefits him and what he

01:14:32.320 wants it's no different than the elite sending men off to war what michael knowles pushes

01:14:41.300 Marrying high school sweethearts isn't on the table anymore, Michael.

01:14:44.600 Ten years ago, maybe.

01:14:45.820 Twenty years ago, maybe.

01:14:46.920 Today, no.

01:14:48.680 Against the stream or go jump into a different stream.

01:14:50.360 No, because that's not a realistic outcome, right?

01:14:53.720 Is it not?

01:14:54.660 To what?

01:14:55.400 Take away all the liberties that we've granted women to sort of, you know, cause a lot of detriment to society?

01:15:00.620 To oppose, to use this example, like to oppose feminism.

01:15:04.600 I'm not saying we're going to take away the right to vote.

01:15:05.780 I'm saying.

01:15:06.300 Why?

01:15:07.220 Well, you know, we've got to repeal a few more amendments before we get to the 19th.

01:15:09.800 but look interesting conversation for another time let's say forgetting about that let's just

01:15:13.320 say other liberties that women are supposedly have uh the liberty to uh promiscuity because

01:15:18.040 of hormonal birth control right i would discourage that i think it's good to discourage that yeah

01:15:22.280 probably can't pass a law because of a couple supreme court cases but i would strongly discourage

01:15:25.880 that the liberty to go just like randomly date a bunch of dudes in some city i would strongly

01:15:29.800 discourage that the liberty to put off getting married and having kids so that you can go right

01:15:33.400 but you're not gonna you might discourage it but again it's kicking the ladder out from under you

01:15:38.440 because the young women are going to get the most successful like this idea that you like if you go

01:15:45.400 to a big city you can't meet the love of your life is complete people do it all the time

01:15:50.840 i mean both of my brothers met their wives in a big city

01:15:55.880 you know so you're kind of kicking out the ladder from under you because the way people date now is

01:16:01.480 they date in big cities they find their husband or their wife and they move out and you're saying

01:16:05.720 doing it do it in a way that doesn't work anymore spreadsheets at the widget factory i would

01:16:11.460 strongly discourage that so to answer your question i guess the answer is yes i would

01:16:14.500 discourage a lot of what passes for modern liberty oh no absolutely like i don't think

01:16:17.580 that the modern world is one that i like to live in at all but i'm simply stating that you might

01:16:21.680 as well adapt to the times instead of just like you know doing all these copes like political

01:16:26.380 activism when this is just the way that the world is going to go and the way that's going to continue

01:16:30.460 to go people have been trying to you know turn the times since the sexual revolution started

01:16:34.700 happened in the 70s and look where that's got us right so if hold on hold on everything you've

01:16:39.140 been saying is all this like very manly take control of your desk he's about to cook michael

01:16:44.220 oh this was a beautiful part i can't i have a

01:16:47.820 oh this is about to be cook okay any even so much so that you're an individual level

01:16:56.260 yeah so why can't we do it on a political level this that sounds kind of excuse the phrase gay

01:17:00.540 to me to say like there's nothing we can do like the elites just control us we can't do anything

01:17:03.860 That's a little bit silly to compare starting a massive political movement rather than individual action.

01:17:10.400 That's a horrible comparison.

01:17:12.080 Why is that? Politics is just a bunch of individuals working together.

01:17:14.660 Because there's a lot of bad actors that don't want to see that occur.

01:17:17.300 So it's not like you're just fighting against nothing.

01:17:19.680 You're fighting against people who deliberately want society to go.

01:17:21.940 There are a lot of people who don't want individuals to flourish either.

01:17:23.960 Right. So, I mean...

01:17:25.100 How do you divorce the two?

01:17:26.100 My view, Michael, I don't have a liberal view of human beings.

01:17:28.240 I don't think that we're just like individuals in isolation.

01:17:30.580 I think Michael's an actor who's never been in charge of anything and so the way they think is

01:17:37.020 very unpragmatic um where if someone's like trying to solve their problems Michael's idealist

01:17:46.480 where clavicular is a realist now you might disagree the way he goes about solving his

01:17:50.640 problem but it's more pragmatic than anything Michael's going to tell you like Michael you'll

01:17:55.300 notice his advice is so bad it's like general don't sleep around don't do this well what do I

01:18:00.000 do what do i do so they'll waste your life these traditional conservative political creature we're

01:18:07.820 social animals we live together we work together we are inclined naturally to live in an ordered

01:18:10.900 society and so i think doing politics is the most basic one of the most basic human impulses

01:18:16.440 and so therefore it's crazy to me to hear well you should go improve yourself but don't try to

01:18:22.060 improve your community yeah but yeah because it's a cop well one what community i don't know anyone

01:18:26.200 I haven't known anyone I lived next to for years.

01:18:28.800 Even when I was a kid, I barely did.

01:18:35.460 It's not going to happen, right?

01:18:36.980 Does it not?

01:18:37.960 I mean, look at the conservative movement over the years.

01:18:40.740 It's gone to absolute, you know, so conservatives.

01:18:43.480 There have been wins and there have been losses.

01:18:44.660 I'll give you an example on the sexual revolution.

01:18:46.300 In 1973.

01:18:46.840 Now he's going to gaslight.

01:18:48.920 And he's going to defend the conservative movement's reputation.

01:18:53.540 And he has to do this because he's making money off of it.

01:18:56.200 He is selling hope. And Clavicular is saying, you guys are doing a terrible job.

01:19:01.720 And Michael is going to try to like, you know.

01:19:05.420 Stupid Supreme Court decision, Roe v. Wade, that said you could kill babies. It was in the

01:19:08.280 Constitution. And everyone said, you're never going to overturn that. It's impossible to

01:19:11.960 overturn it. It's a cope if you think you're an overturning. You guys are wasting your time.

01:19:14.520 You're wasting your breath. Took 50 years. And guess what happened? We overturned it.

01:19:17.360 Okay. Now it's a state to state thing, right? So abortion is still very much.

01:19:20.500 Yeah. So he's going to try to sell these abortion overturnings as like some sort of win. And it's

01:19:25.560 like, yeah, but people, like, it's not hard for women to get abortions. If one in three women

01:19:34.200 have had it, I mean, that's just not a win. It's just not. You could try to slice and dice the

01:19:42.140 numbers however you want. Like, and he's going to do this again with the immigration stuff. And

01:19:46.880 he's going to say, oh, well, we've deported this many illegals. And it's like, well, Michael,

01:19:50.800 when i go to the supermarket i see pajis everywhere so it's like you can try to sell me that

01:19:57.200 you won but it's not what i'm seeing i'm gonna make this full screen on my dogs

01:20:02.420 on the table so yeah but that's moving the goalposts big win you know what i mean that

01:20:09.980 is to say that there's a federal constitutional right to kill babies and then and then everyone

01:20:15.540 says you're never going to overturn that you're guys are idealistic and ridiculous and then we

01:20:19.160 do it we actually do overturn it and everyone says well never mind that wasn't that important

01:20:21.920 anyway no now you got to fight another battle i agree with that but i don't know i noticed the

01:20:25.260 libs don't seem to think that political activism is useless they they seem to think it's very

01:20:28.300 useful and they've achieved a lot because of it well i'm personally an accelerationist so i'd like

01:20:33.100 to see uh where things are going to go because i i can only assume that the dating market is going

01:20:37.240 to get worse and worse and that's going to probably cause people to harbor some sort of

01:20:40.260 resentment um and it's going to have a lot of like intergender issues again i i hope this doesn't

01:20:45.000 happen but that's just kind of what i speculate will occur well hold on you because when you say

01:20:48.980 you're an accelerationist i find it very interesting accelerationism meaning look we got all these

01:20:52.560 social problems and things are they're getting even worse and so you know what let's just

01:20:55.720 immunitize the eschaton let's bring it up to the end let it all fall apart and then we can finally

01:20:58.980 rebuild something good yeah but but so you say i'm accelerationist on one hand but you say i don't

01:21:02.840 want that to happen on the other or that would be that's a contradiction um yeah i mean i'm talking

01:21:08.100 about the resentment i'm not talking about but that's part of the part of the acceleration is

01:21:11.280 like we all go war with each other and everything well just because i i you know want that to

01:21:14.740 happen doesn't mean i really have a lot of you know hope that the the two genders like have a

01:21:20.320 lot of conflict you know but i hope that we can accelerate to the point where we could you know

01:21:24.080 start to rebuild the society in the dating market because it's only going to slip further and

01:21:27.320 further i think the conservative movement to a large degree is a complete joke and i would say

01:21:31.360 that a lot of long time i agree with that i'd say that uh now it's probably stronger than it was a

01:21:36.340 few years ago but largely a joke you should have seen it before trump yeah you should have seen it

01:21:40.140 before trump so if yeah and michael knowles is gonna cope because he's been taking your money

01:21:45.360 for a decade or however long he's been doing this so he's gonna sell oh we've gotten a lot done when

01:21:50.420 they've literally gotten nothing done nothing you know the stuff that i'm talking about really

01:21:55.240 doesn't have i would say it's probably more of a right-wing thing in theory but there's there's

01:22:00.580 really no political party attached to it and if it is the right that's supposed to be you know

01:22:05.080 protecting us from slipping into this degeneracy that we're talking about we're in the degeneracy

01:22:08.660 There's no protecting us from slipping.

01:22:10.080 We've been in the degeneracy for a long time.

01:22:11.540 Going further, and if that's the right job,

01:22:13.180 I don't really have a lot of hope.

01:22:14.260 That's why I'm someone who's saying,

01:22:15.620 yeah, individualism is good.

01:22:17.120 Adapt to the society that we live in

01:22:18.520 because that's the highest chance of success.

01:22:20.940 Adapt to the...

01:22:21.400 But hold on, you're saying

01:22:21.900 the society is getting more degenerate.

01:22:24.540 Adapt to the society.

01:22:26.560 But also don't be degenerate.

01:22:28.480 You see the conflict between those things.

01:22:30.220 Who's saying don't be...

01:22:31.960 You're saying to be degenerate.

01:22:32.920 I'm just saying it's...

01:22:33.680 What you're talking about,

01:22:35.020 about degeneracy and the hypergamy stuff,

01:22:37.840 it's not ideal i thought he had such a good point there he said if it was the right's job to win

01:22:43.380 the war then i don't have a lot of hope and so you might say it's black pill and that's what

01:22:48.680 they say to me like pearl um where is your hope and i'm like look i just see where this is going

01:22:55.800 so saying that's just how it is oh interesting okay i misunderstood your point

01:23:01.240 so you're saying look uh conservative the conservative movement has had all these

01:23:05.700 failures totally agree and we've fallen into this degenerate society and that sucks totally that's

01:23:11.320 how it is and but but then your answer is so you know if you can't beat them join them basically

01:23:16.620 essentially yeah it's kind of kind of doomer well is it i mean like really michael michael joined

01:23:22.980 him right michael's online michael looks maxed michael moved to a big city michael slept around

01:23:30.700 before he got back together with his wife he did all the things that he's criticizing him for

01:23:36.760 so you know it's like such a cope to be like you know going to all these political action

01:23:44.340 events is like your average guy uh like maybe you have this perspective because you've got your own

01:23:49.580 show and you've got a lot more influence over the way that the country goes than just your average

01:23:53.060 guy but if you're just like the one of the average viewers who's got no voice who could risk

01:23:57.740 potentially losing their job for saying the wrong thing

01:23:59.780 in politics, I'm saying that they

01:24:01.800 shouldn't really be conserving themselves with

01:24:03.780 trying to change the tide of

01:24:05.900 society. Well, look, people have a voice in as much

01:24:07.800 as they vote. They have more of a voice than ever because of social media

01:24:09.940 and new media. Until they get banned

01:24:11.760 and fired from their jobs. Yeah, there was a lot of that.

01:24:13.840 And then we stopped a lot of that. I mean, Elon

01:24:15.740 helped stop that when he bought Twitter. Still happens.

01:24:17.740 But it happens to some degree. It's gotten a lot better. And I guess

01:24:19.720 my point is

01:24:21.760 if this individualism

01:24:24.040 and political

01:24:25.640 quietism from the right is what led us into this mess in the first place because it emboldened and

01:24:30.500 empowered the left to screw up the whole society from dating elsewhere, then wouldn't doing more

01:24:36.880 of the same only make things worse? Well, was it really individualism that caused the huge decline

01:24:41.360 in the right? I'm just talking about from a self-improvement perspective and just overall

01:24:45.300 context of how you should live your life as a man. Maybe you're right about that, but I just

01:24:51.540 think it's necessarily a bad thing to just advocate for your average person to only concern themselves

01:24:57.540 with their own to me that's the that's the big cope i agree with many of the observations it's

01:25:01.140 really crazy because michael everything you do ben it's just like people will always make decisions

01:25:08.980 that benefit themselves and criticize other people for doing the same but it's like an elitist

01:25:14.980 mentality you're making about the society but the big cope this you heard this with like the libs

01:25:20.180 when they were trying to push the trans stuff,

01:25:21.680 and they were upset that some of us were pushing against it.

01:25:23.540 And they said, how does this affect you?

01:25:25.320 You know, you're walking out.

01:25:26.400 It's basically your society is Sodom and Gomorrah.

01:25:28.400 And they say, well, how does it affect you

01:25:29.940 if I decide I want to, like, castrate little kids into school

01:25:32.160 and redefine marriage and slaughter babies

01:25:34.040 and sacrifice them to Moloch?

01:25:35.260 And how does that affect you?

01:25:36.160 You just mind your own business.

01:25:36.940 And I think, how about I don't mind my own business?

01:25:38.700 How about, actually, how about my business is my community,

01:25:40.760 and I have a right to enforce standards and norms

01:25:43.100 that are good and traditional and conducive to flourishing?

01:25:45.140 And how about you mind your own business?

01:25:46.420 But the problem is, you see what you just did there

01:25:47.860 is you spiked your cortisol thinking about transgender

01:25:50.180 will that max anything on me no that's a that's a very catabolic hormone so if you're advocating

01:25:55.540 for people to you know go around and you know concern themselves with these issues or go to

01:25:59.720 you know like school like board conferences and like you know be outspoken about this

01:26:03.820 that's just largely going to be unproductive oh and that's i've kind of lived it like i make

01:26:08.980 the content right but you see how talking about this stuff is a waste of time and all the most

01:26:13.040 intelligent men don't really waste that like i i told you guys this story all the time how my dad

01:26:22.240 told me to stop being pro-life and it's not because my dad doesn't like my dad's one of the

01:26:26.400 most moral men i've ever met in my life at probably number one draft pick uh but he just said it's a

01:26:31.440 waste of time and that's how like really intelligent men don't want to debate these

01:26:36.000 issues because they have better to do got me on the crooked teeth point i understand how 100

01:26:40.480 natural is unrealistic do you agree christ made us all different morals and values are a lot more

01:26:45.200 attractive as i age um no i i really

01:26:55.600 look i don't really see a problem with people looks maxing um maybe it's because i'm getting

01:27:00.800 older and it's cope i don't know but i don't really have a problem with with it so

01:27:10.480 but in all honesty i think people have a right to their own hell so if you want to make your

01:27:19.240 life hell you have a right and you know it might seem like a doomer mentality or like you know

01:27:23.360 you're just gonna let society go to it's like on an individual level it's just it's not gonna be

01:27:27.500 productive but on a political right well look it's been productive in as much as at least the

01:27:31.840 trans thing there's so many other problems at least the trans things though we've kind of won

01:27:34.700 on that well the way that i see trannies is like that's one more person to mug once they

01:27:38.400 brutally butcher themselves well and you haven't really won because again michael can say that

01:27:45.040 he's won but if i go downtown like if i went i went to downtown chicago with bryson gray and i

01:27:50.300 saw some trannies walking around it's like they're i see them more now now you might say that maybe

01:27:56.000 they're going to i don't know maybe you could put a study in front of my face but i when i go out i

01:28:01.360 see them more so transitioning you know but is it you know i see that like go go descend yourself

01:28:07.000 like that's fine with me because you're ascending yourself yeah i'm gonna send and this person is

01:28:10.360 going to be a comical botch job you know so like that just seems like very logical to me like yeah

01:28:14.180 go be a tranny like now i mug you to death now isn't yes i see it isn't isn't that a bit cruel

01:28:21.840 to like for instance my view of the training people think i want to commit a genocide on the

01:28:24.620 trannies in fact media outlets have written that which is totally ridiculous my opposition to the

01:28:30.340 transgender ideology is that i think it's false it's bad for everyone involved and at a very real

01:28:35.960 level. I love trannies. That's the part that's going to get clipped. But I love the trannies

01:28:41.400 in the sense that they're my countrymen, they're fellow human beings, they're children of God.

01:28:44.420 I don't want them to do things that are bad for them. I don't want to spike the football or spike

01:28:48.400 my cortisol and just mog all over them. I want them to live lives that are good and flourishing.

01:28:52.580 And I also don't want them to scandalize whole generations of kids into thinking they can be

01:28:57.560 the opposite sex and screw up my society further. So there's a little bit of a selfish aspect,

01:29:00.220 but there's a common good view and there's even charity for the other person. Don't we have to

01:29:03.220 charity for for these other people even if they're now he's gonna say you need to be more moral it's

01:29:07.620 like you know i think of my father and he's the most moral man i've ever met in my life much more

01:29:12.020 moral than some stupid podcast host and my dad's not religious um but he works 80 hours a week and

01:29:18.580 he did my whole life do you think he had a ton of time for other people no when he got older he's

01:29:23.700 very charitable but and you know he still was but it's like it's elitists lecturing normal americans

01:29:33.460 to be better it's you know screw you we talk for a living you don't really have the right to tell

01:29:38.500 anyone anything trannies no not necessarily think about all the time that you've spent uh throughout

01:29:43.140 your entire life talking about training yeah if you guys want to donate to the divorce documentary

01:29:47.300 feel free feel free um yeah so if you want i'm trying to raise two hundred thousand dollars for

01:29:55.780 it um what if you were to dedicate all that time to bone smashing um you know imagine where you

01:30:01.380 could have been is that a euphemism no bone smashing what is bone smashing it sounds like

01:30:04.900 what the trannies do no it's where you induce um micro fractures and this principle follows wolf's

01:30:09.380 law that a bone is going to grow back stronger um you know after you do these localized micro traumas

01:30:14.580 um so you're you're gonna lay in your bed to brace your head for cte and you're gonna bone smash

01:30:19.940 you're gonna lay in your bed and brace your head for cte is isn't that like brain damage well no

01:30:23.380 so that's why you lay in your okay and that's gonna grow your facial bones you you smash like

01:30:27.780 you punch yourself in the face yeah if i punch myself in the face i'm gonna get like a nice

01:30:32.260 mute up jaw yeah according to wolf's law right do you punch yourself in the face yes how hard

01:30:37.700 um like reasonably just your fist yeah i see he's a hammer but um my parents would would go into my

01:30:46.940 bathroom and take it away where am i supposed to punch like if i'm gonna so like there how does

01:30:55.260 one i want to do it so that was uh you would hit yourself in the head with a hammer yeah i know it

01:31:00.900 sounds it sounds a little silly like people are gonna think i'm trolling but all right i'm i'm

01:31:04.400 gonna cut we're at an hour and a half um i did like a bunch of reactions before this so um

01:31:11.120 but i'll probably do the rest of this in a few days

01:31:15.900 so i don't know if i'm gonna live stream the next few days but i probably will after new year's

01:31:24.340 maybe new year's eve i might do a stream

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Pearl - December 28, 2025

Clavicular COOKS Michael Knowles And Con Inc

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