Pearl - Confronting One Of My Haters

00:00:00.000 good afternoon good evening ladies and gentlemen welcome to another episode of pearl daily here

00:00:15.860 on the audacity network um so this past weekend guys i went to something a little bit different

00:00:24.720 something i've never been to before i was introduced to the world of anime and i went

00:00:32.880 to this anime convention and i was very confused um there was men walking around in dresses

00:00:42.320 and my producer the nice guy he is he picked me up from the airport

00:00:47.280 and he was explaining to me about femboys and traps and we decided today we're going to do a

00:00:55.500 fun game where I have to decide if somebody is a man or a woman so he compiled a bunch of

00:01:06.800 a list of characters

00:01:10.820 and I get to pick if I think they're male or female.

00:01:16.560 Now guys, do not give me any spoilers in the chat

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00:01:36.800 I will read your comment if you go into the live chat there okay yeah I'm ready so first on the

00:01:48.080 list we got oh I just read it identify the traps of anime if they're a trap

00:02:06.800 oh okay okay so i either i either think they're male or female pearl will be shown a character

00:02:14.320 from an anime then attempt to identify if the character is a male or female or if they are a

00:02:20.480 trap in their anime okay okay are these all the same person these are all going to be the same

00:02:36.800 they're going to have different options okay I think that's a woman but that's a trap I think

00:02:43.920 that's a woman trying to be a man oh oh it's a male so it's just a regular guy okay oh he's a

00:02:53.760 regular guy why did they give him eyes like that okay go to the next one

00:03:01.900 all right is this character male or female so

00:03:08.940 oh that's tough um i'm gonna say oh it's a woman because

00:03:16.140 he she but she's got a dog and we just really like to buy dogs

00:03:24.380 um i don't know if it's a trap but i think it's just a tomboy so i think it's a woman tomboy

00:03:31.900 okay so if it's a trap they're trying to be the other gender yeah the in the context of the universe

00:03:40.120 people think that's the other sex or they're purposely disguising themselves okay so it's a

00:03:46.960 she okay but I was right on the gender okay let me keep going um

00:03:52.840 i think that that's well that's going to be a trap woman because it's like a male on the left

00:04:06.260 and then the middle it's a girl yeah so yeah yeah it's like a male but it's a trap so it's

00:04:15.740 pretending to be a female okay wow these are tough okay that's got to be a woman

00:04:32.620 that's got to be a woman the eyes are too female and then i think he's trapping

00:04:40.140 when he becomes he puts the dress on

00:04:45.740 sorry it's a woman it's a woman yay i got that one

00:04:51.260 that's a woman okay not a trap i think it's just a woman it's a it's a guy

00:05:03.380 what is up with these anime things

00:05:07.660 i do not understand this okay keep going keep going male

00:05:15.740 trap yeah it's a male trap so it's a it's just the male oh

00:05:24.800 I see why the men were in dresses now is this a male or a female um

00:05:32.840 I think that's a female a trap well it's like a male trap so it's a it's a female pretending to

00:05:43.480 a guy yes i knew it that's a woman okay what the heck okay keep going keep going are you guys do

00:06:02.840 you guys like anime in the chat are you guys uh let me know if you guys watch this stuff um

00:06:09.160 um so can't you just call them oh i can't say that word that's what got me demonetized originally

00:06:16.600 but okay this has got to be

00:06:21.160 i think it's a male pretending to be a woman so it's a female trap

00:06:30.920 but look at her shoulders they're so broad i guess the boobs should have given it away

00:06:35.880 yeah I don't know there's boob jobs now though I don't know how how far they're gonna go to

00:06:43.500 sell it you know keep going okay that's what I'm gonna do I'm gonna look at the boobs all right

00:06:51.000 that's a male that's a female trap because he she whatever is flat chested yeah I think it's

00:07:00.200 i think it's a male pretending to be a woman yes okay i think that's the tell you have to look at

00:07:06.620 the boobs okay keep going all right flat chested that's a guy yeah i'm getting good there's no way

00:07:17.980 the anime okay i don't see boobs on this one uh maybe i'm gonna say guy i'm gonna say guy final

00:07:27.960 answer because i don't see boobs oh dang it she just wasn't blessed

00:07:38.600 oh she's young okay uh

00:07:45.080 male no you know i'm gonna go female i'm gonna go female because

00:07:53.880 the eyes are like almost purple and that's kind of girly

00:07:57.960 i just think the eyes are making me think okay male trap yeah dang it

00:08:06.360 oh these are tough okay keep going

00:08:11.160 um

00:08:16.440 i think that's a female

00:08:22.120 no boobs okay i'm gonna start looking at the legs so if the legs are thinner maybe

00:08:27.960 no but the the in the anime convention they really had a coke bottle shape they would guys

00:08:34.260 they had these like naked girls on posters like basically naked and they would have a very coke

00:08:39.560 bottle i think it's a guy i think it's a guy yeah no curves female trap yeah

00:08:47.580 oh so it's a male trap yeah okay

00:08:55.820 i'm not doing good at this game keep going there anymore okay okay um are they a trap

00:09:10.160 so this is all the same character um i think that's a guy that looks like a guy

00:09:18.600 and i don't know if it's a guy trap because he's wearing both but i'm gonna just say male

00:09:24.180 yeah maybe he's like a cross dresser I'm gonna say male

00:09:30.640 oh my goodness do you guys find this do you find her hot guys

00:09:37.260 is this what you guys are into I don't know oh sailor moon I should have I've heard of that one

00:09:44.860 before I should I should have known keep going um

00:09:54.180 all right that's uh all right no boobs that's a guy just a guy

00:10:08.820 well so in this why do they dress as women like what's the point

00:10:15.860 uh a lot of times it's just a funny gag oh it's not to like date but are they trying to

00:10:22.260 sometimes with this character i'm pretty sure they're gay um like they kind of

00:10:28.900 okay so they said japanese men are more feminine looking um

00:10:36.260 that's a woman i'm gonna say woman that pretends to be a guy because she's got the guns

00:10:43.540 i see boobs though i'm gonna yeah female trap oh just if

00:10:48.660 okay keep going male that's a male um i see the skirt so i'm gonna say male trap

00:10:56.900 what there is no way you could tell in these animes

00:11:05.380 there's harder ones okay keep going

00:11:11.420 is this how you guys feel when you see trans people on dating apps

00:11:16.680 because some of them are getting pretty good I mean I wouldn't be able to tell for some

00:11:23.340 all right that's got to be a woman that's that's a woman no no boobs male male trap yes

00:11:33.860 okay keep going keep going

00:11:37.080 I'm going to say female trap that looks like Mulan

00:11:43.120 all right

00:11:49.100 okay keep going what did I what was my score you got you got like 14 out of 40.

00:11:59.400 you got 14 out of 40 well you know it's all right so i almost i didn't i even i like super failed

00:12:08.520 all right if you guys like that let me know in the comments and we'll do it again i'm gonna read

00:12:16.020 the stream on on the website okay tom says this is dumb you know what thank you tom thank you

00:12:23.660 for your input I did ask we're American men we don't watch cartoons and then Rob he disagreed

00:12:30.980 in the chat he said I love Warner bro cartoons maybe the Japs need to watch less too and F

00:12:37.580 their women more old cartoons are good no question but these new cartoons suck Rob says you're

00:12:44.500 ignorant no imagination Tom says this is dumb Rob says I agree no one cares about anime we're

00:12:50.760 adults and this is a waste of time well if you guys want your complaint to be heard please go

00:12:56.620 to the website on the audacity network.com okay so let's get into the stories of the day so

00:13:03.840 a term that I heard when I first started listening to red pill content was f trophies for clout now

00:13:12.960 what is an f trophy for clout that is when usually women but sometimes men use their family and their

00:13:20.460 children for clout on the internet so the first person i heard use this term is ryan stone now

00:13:28.700 ryan stone is a very smart red pill content creator and he does um he has really interesting

00:13:37.340 streams and he responded to matt walsh and he said he actually has a good book you guys should

00:13:43.100 buy it he said welcome to the world and it was matt walsh and his children and he said showing

00:13:50.860 off the f trophies for clout now when i originally heard this term i thought it was a little bit

00:13:57.180 harsh i thought well i mean he's just posting a picture with his kids what's wrong with that

00:14:04.060 but the thing about red pill content is sometimes once you see things you just

00:14:09.980 simply cannot unsee it and once you notice how people use their children on the internet for

00:14:16.860 attention likes and clicks even though there are little literal pedophiles on that app twitter

00:14:23.580 and they have no regard for their children's privacy you really can't unsee it now what

00:14:29.340 i'm not saying is that you can never post a picture with your family ever but we're getting

00:14:35.260 to the point where people are live streaming their kids being born and the first thing they do after

00:14:42.940 their kids are born is post it to twitter not send a picture to the family not enjoy the moment

00:14:50.300 privately for a couple of days no it's all going on twitter i even saw a woman named bernardine

00:14:58.940 bluntly post a literal video of her giving birth on the internet now look I understand that at

00:15:07.280 times maybe for educational purposes you put something online I understand that maybe you

00:15:15.760 know there's pros and cons of posting your family like when Kanye let out that or sorry when Kanye

00:15:23.200 released that song with his daughter I actually thought it was adorable and it looked like they're

00:15:27.500 having a lot of fun um however trad twitter has taken this too far they have just it's getting

00:15:39.340 ridiculous now i noticed this trend and there was somebody named anna luis i really don't know a ton

00:15:52.400 of her content but it seems like she posts pro family like trad con content right like that's

00:16:02.480 her brand that's what she's making money on I actually can't believe she follows me wow okay

00:16:08.760 um and she posted a picture with her family and she says this is the way and

00:16:15.480 And I am interpreting this because when I see this content, I'm thinking, what message

00:16:24.600 is she trying to send?

00:16:26.000 She's saying, live like me, be like me.

00:16:30.260 And she's using her family as a prop for social media.

00:16:34.740 I mean, that's what essentially the message is, right?

00:16:38.240 Be like me, have a bunch of children like I did.

00:16:42.040 And the scary thing is when you learn about how pedophiles are on these apps, looking

00:16:53.900 for pictures of your children to track them down and get more information on them.

00:16:59.640 And oftentimes they might, you know, try to add them on different apps when they get to

00:17:05.140 the age that they're on.

00:17:06.360 know the internet's kind of a weird and scary um the internet's kind of a weird and a scary place

00:17:13.880 and i just always wonder when you're posting your kids faces on the internet

00:17:20.120 at what cost and essentially what a lot of the traditional conservatives are signaling

00:17:27.560 is that they care more about their brand than the privacy of their family

00:17:33.800 now I'm not even saying one's right or wrong I'm sure some people post their

00:17:40.040 family on the internet and it's fine however essentially they're

00:17:45.020 communicating that the money is more important than the privacy of and I

00:17:51.020 really do think at some point you know one of these kids is going to have a

00:17:56.440 lawsuit against their parents for not giving them privacy when they are a kid

00:18:03.140 now this when i tweeted this this completely set the internet in flames people were very upset with

00:18:12.200 me i remember at the time sorry pearl this is actually the way now i'm not saying it is or it

00:18:21.480 isn't the way but i think that's something that every guy has to decide for himself i know men that

00:18:29.300 they just want to focus on building their businesses, and that's just what they want

00:18:37.340 to do. Family just is not a priority for them. If it happens, it happens, but it's just not

00:18:42.340 something that they want to do. I don't think that one makes someone morally superior to another.

00:18:48.280 I don't know if that makes sense. Anyways, then they're trying to say, you're depopulation,

00:18:55.580 and really my only point was you guys are claiming traditionalism but you're you're

00:19:06.380 sacrificing your children's privacy for money okay what's not plugged in oh okay thank you now

00:19:18.940 Now, this recently, I recently noticed a woman on Twitter erupting that apparently Nick and

00:19:32.440 his groipers were making rape jokes or grape jokes about her daughter.

00:19:40.240 Now, that is wrong, right?

00:19:42.560 That is completely wrong.

00:19:44.060 You should not make those type of jokes about someone's daughter.

00:19:47.560 but I don't know when you know she's on this whole tirade saying Nick is wrong his followers are

00:19:54.860 wrong they're evil and I can't I kept thinking where is the accountability for the mother

00:20:03.000 so the original post is she says people are saying that I'm making Nick F look bad but why

00:20:09.960 would I care about his reputation or support him when he doesn't support me Nick how about you tell

00:20:15.620 your pedo cult crew to stop making great comments about my underage daughter. Now, my questions are,

00:20:22.540 why do people even know you have a daughter if you're a political commentator?

00:20:27.540 Why is that information out there? Whose choice was that? Ever since you said on your show,

00:20:36.060 with the most sinister, deceptive grin on your face, the Gripers have only gotten worse,

00:20:41.240 and you won't acknowledge that it's wrong about coping and deflection. Now, what do we know about

00:20:45.520 that group on the internet they make very edgy jokes they will they will take it to the extreme

00:20:51.360 i mean these guys they they're kind of you know i don't really want to send them after me right now

00:20:58.560 but i'm just being honest you guys are kind of annoying like you guys are in everyone's comments

00:21:03.280 spamming like that's just the group but again the same reason when they spam me with stuff

00:21:11.200 i don't complain because i made that choice to interview him she takes zero accountability for

00:21:17.360 her choice to interact with these things and it just drives me nuts where these ladies they want

00:21:25.280 to play the victim when they want all of the clout for going online they want all of the benefit of

00:21:34.640 being a public figure making money on the internet and there's a ton i i'm not saying one is right or

00:21:40.960 wrong you know you can pick yourself but what i am saying is if you choose this path there are

00:21:49.600 consequences and if your children have those consequences that's your own fault um you know you

00:21:59.280 I don't have a lot of sympathy.

00:22:02.920 Now, then what happens is the white knights come in.

00:22:08.380 I don't care if you're a groiper, MAGA, far left, far right,

00:22:12.660 joking about graping someone's child isn't cool, edgy, and isn't funny.

00:22:16.520 These are lines we don't cross, especially if you call yourself a Christian.

00:22:20.600 Now, I'm not disagreeing with that point.

00:22:22.960 I'm not disagreeing that it's wrong.

00:22:25.340 But we all know what kind of app Twitter is.

00:22:28.320 there is literal cornography on that app literal so a lot of these people have no regard for their

00:22:37.520 children when they're using an app that is used for cornography and then using their children for

00:22:45.760 clout um okay agreed this should be obvious at the same time my haters always do this guilt by

00:22:55.840 association smear which is clearly dishonest and bad faith let's not be naive the drama queen in

00:23:02.340 question should block report and move on exactly so I just don't have a lot of sympathy

00:23:09.160 so you know I had to give in my two cents I really had to so you know she goes in let me find

00:23:21.460 actually let me go back

00:23:22.980 no okay to be fair I probably didn't have to I you know I'm gonna hands up hands up I didn't

00:23:37.840 have to say anything but sometimes there's just a fire that gets lit in me when I see things that

00:23:44.800 are really I don't like the pretending to be a victim I get a lot of people making fun of me

00:23:51.580 okay a lot there I have no I've had a lot of people say awful things and I don't play the

00:23:58.360 victim because I have the best job on the planet right now and again what they want is they want

00:24:07.380 all of the benefits of being on the internet all the benefits of posting their kids

00:24:12.300 and none of the blame when anything goes wrong okay here we go so she's written an essay and

00:24:22.740 I'm not going to read this because quite frankly I just don't care an essay about

00:24:28.820 you know all these people I don't deserve to be called a whore and by the way this is a woman

00:24:35.400 who's called me a whore bitch i don't look at i don't care say what you want but you this girl

00:24:43.840 does the same exact thing now she writes an essay and she says i say why is your child on the

00:24:54.240 internet she says she's not then shut up no one cares because you chose to be online and you

00:25:00.360 mention your kid we all know the internet's full of weirdos right we all know this so but you think

00:25:07.820 that privacy is less important than a public presence that's what you picked you you you

00:25:16.100 picked nobody put a gun to your head and said go online and this could all be done if she just

00:25:21.940 deletes her account she would never happen again gone done problem solved but what they're doing

00:25:27.980 is she's trying to play the victim to get sympathy from idiot men who whenever they see a woman cry

00:25:37.520 they just have to run to her defense and a lot of these guys are falling for it so

00:25:44.540 um I think that's really all I gotta say you know and then she tries to call me a pedo I'm like why

00:25:54.080 women do that they put the worst insult imaginable i've been saying for years to get your kids offline

00:26:01.200 i've been saying this for years i've been saying hey hey trads you know i don't know if you should

00:26:06.800 put your kids on the internet there's pedos on this app and they say pearl you're so evil you're

00:26:14.000 the worst i don't know guys uh i know the cloud and the money is nice but you know it's one thing

00:26:23.360 if they're adults but they don't really have a say in this or even teenagers okay if they have

00:26:29.480 their own account but i don't know that kid's like five no okay you guys are in politics politics is

00:26:39.420 pretty like they go pretty far in politics to destroy everything no but cloud okay anyways

00:26:48.660 my two cents I don't want to go too into the back and forth because this lady's crazy um okay so

00:26:56.880 did I miss anything what else did I

00:27:01.060 oh yeah just an essay cry me a river cry me a river okay now I want to give an update on the

00:27:15.480 Sidney Sweeney situation so as you guys know the internet has erupted debating if they find Sidney

00:27:22.240 Sweeney erupted on how attractive Sidney Sweeney is now Sidney Sweeney is an internet movie star

00:27:33.560 now she is an attractive woman right and she is known for being let me do Sidney Sweeney she is

00:27:42.880 known for being a blonde bombshell. Okay. This is what she's known for looking like.

00:27:48.600 I mean, is this eight, nine, 10? What do you, I mean, eight, I'd say eight right now.

00:27:58.560 Recently, these pool pictures got leaked and this, they basically showed what she looks like day to

00:28:07.060 day. Now, clearly she's not ugly, right? Not unattractive, but the internet is saying that

00:28:15.040 she is a catfish, that this is not as attractive as this. And I think this really hit a pain point

00:28:28.060 amongst men because I'll talk to guys that are going on dates off of dating apps and they think

00:28:33.840 they're going on a dating app with a seven but they're really going on a dating app with a chubby

00:28:38.740 five they said whoa whoa whoa that 20 pounds wasn't in your picture whoa whoa whoa that was

00:28:45.820 that picture is at least five years old whoa whoa whoa uh did you get rid of your your big nose on

00:28:54.960 facetune the men are kind of sick of it right this is a pain point that's why it went so viral

00:28:59.840 because men are matching with women, maybe not this attractive,

00:29:04.720 but the equivalent that look like this, right?

00:29:08.560 So they match, they think they're going on a date with this,

00:29:12.200 and really they're going on a date with this.

00:29:16.340 Now, clearly attractive, definitely, but not as attractive as they thought.

00:29:27.940 That was the whole point.

00:29:28.920 now i think you know i've been wanting to give out a award for simp of the year um i think i

00:29:37.700 want to give out awards simp of the year karen of the year and um whore of the year lily phillips

00:29:45.560 is getting my 304 of the year a hundred men in a day no one can top that you have to be a number

00:29:53.360 one draft pick maybe we should make like a award ceremony in a medal you know um now michael knowles

00:30:03.120 recently i he just released a video and i want to go over his response so let's see here

00:30:13.760 hot this is the debate that has taken over social media much now again it's the same thing it's the

00:30:23.780 pretty girl cries men must rush to her to defend her honor right of my twitter feed

00:30:31.740 is sydney sweeney hot and people can't agree on this question well they agree on the question

00:30:36.800 they can't agree on the answer i must weigh in i have very strong opinions on this debate

00:30:42.920 I am not going to wade into the substantive matter all that much. I'm not going to make

00:30:49.500 some impassioned case for why or why not Sidney Sweeney is hot because I find that untoward

00:30:54.400 because I'm a married man and that's just not the sort of thing a respectable fellow would do.

00:30:58.760 However, I will make one cultural observation why the is Sidney Sweeney hot debate matters.

00:31:05.940 And that is this whole debate.

00:31:09.080 The fact that the debate is taking place is proof of widespread addiction.

00:31:14.860 I think that's really what lies at the heart of this.

00:31:17.200 And you know, again, it's the same pattern, right?

00:31:19.280 Men say, Hey, she's one of the tweets that went viral was from nuclear Caudillo.

00:31:28.620 And he said, all women are catfishes.

00:31:33.260 Just to what degree?

00:31:35.940 So he didn't call her ugly. He didn't say unattractive, but I think objectively she is a

00:31:43.500 catfish. Now I don't think, I think she's a 6.5. I think that's fair. Seven. I'd say seven and she

00:31:52.100 can go to an eight or a nine. Is that fair? Maybe a six to an eight, depending on what your type is.

00:31:59.120 maybe you're into asians i don't know um but

00:32:02.680 i to say that's corn addiction

00:32:07.840 i don't think men have that high of standards i mean guys in the chat you let me know

00:32:14.540 do you guys need a woman hotter than sydney sweeney i mean would sydney sweetie be good

00:32:21.120 enough for you would that be would that be enough but the reason this went viral he's completely

00:32:28.160 off it's because it hit a pain point because men can relate to being catfished and this would be

00:32:36.240 super common when I did my show so if you guys don't know I moved to England to play volleyball

00:32:41.680 did a show on the side where I interviewed a thousand women in like one and a half two years

00:32:47.680 and women would come on the show and they would follow me after on Instagram so like they would

00:32:52.640 say follow me back or whatever and back then I was more charitable with my follow you know I'd

00:32:57.440 follow and um there would be times where i didn't know who they were because they looked so different

00:33:07.440 and it actually they get so delusional where women think they look like the internet version

00:33:14.880 of themselves and that's where you get the you know women that are you know five six seven eight

00:33:21.680 saying they deserve 10 in men because online they can attract that right so online they can get

00:33:29.600 that caliber of guy or get attention but it's not real right you know if you face tune your waist

00:33:36.320 to be smaller men in real life still see the gut you know don't need to just take my word for it

00:33:42.560 you can also take the credibility and the authority of uh jean baudrillard who's a

00:33:48.400 a sociologist, a postmodern philosopher.

00:33:52.380 We've mentioned him on this show before.

00:33:54.680 You might recall, I don't know, two years ago, three years ago,

00:33:57.340 I had a great commentator, Wocal Distance.

00:33:59.720 I got to give you Simp of the Year, Michael.

00:34:01.640 I think, you know, the NALA interview,

00:34:05.140 the doubling down on the NALA interview,

00:34:08.000 and now this, you might be,

00:34:10.780 I'm going to have to do an awards ceremony.

00:34:13.480 I'm going to have to do it.

00:34:15.220 I think I'm going to give, you know, medals,

00:34:18.400 if you guys want me to go to the audacitynetwork.com i got a fundraise for these trophies

00:34:23.440 i really want to go maybe i'll invite them it'll be a whole event simp of the year horror of the

00:34:30.000 year um karen of the year who who would you guys put as karen of the year who would

00:34:40.320 who would you guys put let me know in the chat maybe we can vote oh my gosh that could be fun

00:34:45.920 that could be fun son and he was discussing baudrillard's theory of hyper reality and the

00:34:52.640 analogy he used was he said you know in ancient days people ate strawberries look you guys gotta

00:34:58.400 you guys gotta go to the website they're saying do it do you know how expensive it is to put on

00:35:02.480 an award ceremony in that little of time i have one person here one if you guys want you want me

00:35:08.960 to go all out it could be virtual i mean that's cheaper i'm just saying you know go to the audacity

00:35:14.400 network.com and i will read your comments they said well the strawberry tastes really good

00:35:18.640 and then over time they said you know the strawberry is so good but i want even more

00:35:22.560 of the strawberry you know even more potent form so they made strawberry jam and then over the

00:35:27.840 years they said this jam it's not enough i want to i want to make a strawberry candy okay i'm

00:35:32.960 gonna have a strawberry candy no even that it's not it's not hardcore enough i've got to distill

00:35:38.240 it down even further i'm gonna have a strawberry jolly rancher and then they said no even that's

00:35:43.200 not enough i want a strawberry jolly rancher flavored soda and by the time you reach the end

00:35:50.400 of this process people really like the strawberry jolly rancher flavored soda but if they actually

00:35:55.920 picked up a regular old strawberry that they wouldn't recognize it so what is this this isn't

00:35:59.840 and why is this simping again he's about to say that men are the picky ones i don't know guys

00:36:06.640 tell me about your standards how high are they i mean do you expect like homemade bread from scratch

00:36:13.200 are you guys expecting that do you guys expect do you even expect sydney sweeney level hot

00:36:20.720 like what would be good enough for you what would be what would be they said very low

00:36:28.160 says no standards at all someone said just nice to me what are your standards you know what i

00:36:35.680 mean enough i don't even know what this is that that the you you've distilled the essence of the

00:36:41.200 thing down so far that it now bears very little resemblance to the actual thing that you started

00:36:46.480 with i was thinking about baudrillard not just because of our conversation with vocal distance

00:36:51.600 or not just because of hyper reality but baudrillard wrote a book about seduction i think this helps to

00:36:57.440 explain now this is the issue when you get people that have been married for a long time and don't

00:37:01.760 really know what's going on they go to books for their sources instead of like real life

00:37:09.200 and they miss a lot that's why the red pill has discovered things way before academia

00:37:16.480 because like before the academics do because they go on their real life experiences where a lot of

00:37:23.040 these guys explain this stuff in the abstract and why people are confused you want me to get

00:37:28.720 karen of the year i'll take it i'll take it it's fine um someone said candace owens

00:37:36.960 i don't think i could give i don't think i could give myself the award

00:37:41.520 yeah anyway let me know your nominations about whether or not sydney sweeney who is manifestly

00:37:48.080 a rather pretty lass whether or not she's attractive he wrote this book about seduct

00:37:53.360 So this is, think about this.

00:37:54.860 He's finger wagging at the men and he's saying, find her attractive.

00:37:59.940 You are not allowed to say she's mid, find her attractive.

00:38:03.520 And he focused a lot of it on, he said, promotes female pleasure in so exaggerated a manner

00:38:14.180 only in order to better bury the uncertainty that hovers over the black continent of femininity.

00:38:20.580 he says that the female is a principle of uncertainty he views being male as a principle

00:38:28.420 of production that's what lies at the essence of masculinity of of being a male go to good ranchers

00:38:35.460 dot com use code knolls i will not this good ranchers sponsor me does anyone want to spot

00:38:43.700 look it if you guys have a company and you want to sponsor the awards ceremony i'll do it i'll do it

00:38:49.860 i'll do karen of the year simp of the year i gotta think of some other ones let me

00:38:54.580 put them in the chat let me skip this ad though

00:39:00.260 there we go chest here sticking out that that what transvestitism is about

00:39:05.380 is not so much the seduction someone wants matt walsh to be nominated for karen of the year

00:39:09.860 or the biggest fumble of the year who killed their career this year who who tanked right

00:39:20.340 i my mine would be lauren chen because i don't know what can tank it more than getting money

00:39:26.080 from russia i mean that's a pretty big l biggest l of the year of another person as the seduction

00:39:32.380 of signs and symbols of i mean we just to bring it back down destiny hawk to uh that's a good one

00:39:39.640 earth. We can see that kind of strawberry jolly rancher milkshake, you know, hyper reality process

00:39:46.520 taking place. The drag queen is so exaggerated a caricature of a female that the drag queen

00:39:53.880 is almost unrecognizable from the female. What being a female actually is, is basically

00:40:01.800 unrecognizable if you were to look at a drag queen. It's so exaggerated that it's just taken

00:40:06.680 on its own kind of being. It's now divorced from the subject matter. With the Sidney Sweeney is

00:40:14.980 hot debate, I think Baudrillard is really onto something. Even though he's a postmodern philosopher,

00:40:20.000 he's really onto something here, which is that when people get really into or into any kind of

00:40:26.140 hyper real distillation of something, they become perverts. Their tastes just become so weird.

00:40:34.180 They need the Jolly Rancher flavored soda. They no longer want a strawberry. They no longer can

00:40:41.180 even recognize a strawberry. A line from Baudrillard's Seduction, perhaps is only an allegory,

00:40:48.160 that is to say a forcing of signs, a Baroque enterprise of over-signification touching on

00:40:54.180 the grotesque. The obscenity itself burns and consumes its object. I think that's what this

00:41:00.660 comes down to if one cannot recognize that sydney sweeney possesses a kind of attractiveness it is

00:41:08.640 probably because one has so burned out one's sensors on and i don't even just mean literal

00:41:14.360 so he's saying if you don't find sydney sweeney hot you have burned out your sensors

00:41:21.260 maybe she's just not their type maybe they like big booty latinas michael i don't know

00:41:29.180 maybe they like the Asian women you know guys have different things they find attractive just

00:41:34.780 like women but this would never happen if I said and I'll say it who's a guy celebrity I think is

00:41:41.620 overrated okay I can't think any of any off the top of my head I'm sure there's some though

00:41:48.720 that I would say unattractive not for me and it really wouldn't be that big of a deal and the men

00:41:55.980 wouldn't find it that big of a deal there wouldn't be an outcry right like if i said i'm not gonna

00:42:01.120 say it because he's pretty good looking but like if i said brad pitt unattractive ugly you gross

00:42:08.400 nobody would care they would say yeah well oh well and brad pitt wouldn't freak out he would

00:42:17.060 not post you know because sydney sweeney responded to all of this and posted pictures of her working

00:42:21.800 out to you know show the haters brad pitt wouldn't respond he wouldn't care um it wouldn't be this

00:42:31.240 huge spectacle but because pretty woman say pretty woman isn't that pretty now it's world war three

00:42:39.400 i mean the the over stimulation of our culture the saturation with caricature and grotesquerie

00:42:46.360 the culture has become just so decadent that uh well you see this every year there's surveys that

00:42:51.240 that come out about the top terms they're searched for. And they always become weirder and weirder

00:42:57.900 and more grotesque. At a certain point, they don't even seem like they're connected to sex at all.

00:43:03.860 I remember there was a Supreme Court case that came up. This was now 10, 15 years ago.

00:43:08.400 And it was about a type of, that involved just torturing kittens. You know, viewer discretion

00:43:15.720 advice. Well, certainly for that kind of, but even this discussion, it involved torturing poor

00:43:20.960 little animals and it what was so striking about the case is it had nothing to do with sex and yet

00:43:26.600 it was a type of it was this hyper real bizarre kind of perversion and i i think that's basically

00:43:33.020 where the culture leads you as a as a barometer if you cannot find a glamorous hollywood starlet

00:43:42.320 of perfectly ordinary glamour common glamour but glamour nonetheless attractive

00:43:48.940 something's gone wrong with your brain yeah if you don't find her attractive something's

00:43:55.220 wrong with you they're always always always shaming male sexuality always it's always

00:44:01.200 the corn addiction and the equivalent nobody would care but again guys you know i am fighting

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00:46:03.040 coupon code thank you guys okay so next on the agenda now this um

00:46:16.880 this um fight went even further into conservative twitter now as you guys know

00:46:23.360 we have this issue of the ladies tweeting their selfies to prove that they still got it

00:46:31.680 these will be you know happily married women in relationships that need to prove to me or other

00:46:37.840 member members of the rp movement that they are still attractive and it's really really

00:46:45.360 a sad thing if i'm being honest i can't imagine you know living my life and going online and

00:46:54.320 finding out my mother is arguing with some random red pill guys proving that she's still got it so

00:47:07.280 this woman named the red-headed libertarian she has me blocked don't know why

00:47:16.240 she tweets her selfies now she says if the met like you know

00:47:24.320 and she's saying if we if the men find out that we can shape shift shape shift they're going to

00:47:33.800 tell the church now this is a woman that makes money off the traditional conservative brand

00:47:39.180 right now does this look like a modest married woman's selfie by the way I don't care I don't

00:47:51.460 but you know it just makes it a little worse it's like like the boobs are clearly the focus

00:47:56.980 um cross necklace heavy makeup I'm not saying like I I don't think you know I'm not a Puritan

00:48:05.000 it is what it is you know I I don't really care but it's the inconsistencies right

00:48:10.980 and it's the marriage is the solving of the problems with

00:48:17.100 doing this you know we're just like the worst marketing now nuclear caudillo goes in and says

00:48:24.820 all women are catfishes the question is to what degree and this is you know a picture from like

00:48:35.160 a video now clearly she looks like this looks like two different people I don't

00:48:40.260 and to prove that she still has it she writes an essay wait hold on let me find the first one

00:48:55.560 an essay trying to prove oh wait here I screenshotted it she writes an essay trying to prove

00:49:05.960 that she's still got it now again I don't care but she says they always grab screenshots of me

00:49:14.040 in the middle of a sentence to prove that I am ugly I'm a public figure you retard everyone knows

00:49:20.420 what I look like this is my interview with Matt Kibble from back in January and everyone should

00:49:25.060 check it out I'm adorable here by the way now I'm just thinking now remember like she's got kids so

00:49:30.460 think of little jimmy at home now jimmy at home is hanging out and then he gets a phone call and

00:49:36.780 his phone calls from his friend brad now brad says hey did you see your mom on twitter she's

00:49:42.780 arguing with this random guy trying to say that she's still hot you know i just say send the

00:49:50.780 asteroid. Please send the asteroid. It's just, it's over. And then she sent even more. She blocked

00:50:00.760 me. So sometimes it's tough to get the, let me find the rest. Totally get the cat fishing. Is

00:50:12.540 the Adam's apple in your profile to prove you're a dude because you have a weak ass jawline

00:50:17.300 suggests otherwise i blocked you to cut off your views you reach on your post will drop tremendously

00:50:23.060 now you did earn about three dollars i implore you to invest invest in help again it's shaming

00:50:29.140 male sexuality it's saying find me hot this is what the ladies say they say i want to join the

00:50:36.660 internet right and which is fine right i'm here this is a fun time i look at we're having a great

00:50:42.740 time so they say let me join and their husbands they're like whatever she's kind of annoying me

00:50:51.300 i mean this yeah go ahead dear whatever and they say i want to join the part of twitter

00:50:59.540 that's the most contentious where there's the most fighting the most vicious totally fine

00:51:05.540 you know i'm here i'm not i'm not judging it right i'm just i'm explaining what's going on

00:51:09.540 And so they say, let me march into the most contentious part of Twitter where everyone's arguing and let me go here.

00:51:18.560 And then they say, find me hot.

00:51:21.440 And if the men say, eh, if the men say, meh, if the men say mid, then they get angry.

00:51:32.300 They get angry and then they start yelling at the men and saying,

00:51:39.540 Find me hot or you have a corn addiction.

00:51:46.300 I mean, she looks good for her age.

00:51:48.180 She's pushing 40.

00:51:49.340 I'm not hating.

00:51:52.280 But it's just weird.

00:51:54.200 It's very like I don't.

00:51:57.440 And they don't know it, but these ladies are the worst marketing for marriage because the young guys are looking at this, right?

00:52:04.180 And they're saying, OK, let me get married.

00:52:06.520 And they say, oh, look at those.

00:52:08.080 they say they're like conservative women. They look amazing. And then they see the conservative

00:52:15.120 wives arguing with random men on Twitter. And they say, I don't know about this.

00:52:23.960 Anyways. So we have very bad marketing right now. Now, as women, we have to understand that

00:52:33.240 we're just not doing the greatest job of selling ourselves. You know, we're in the news constantly

00:52:39.240 for doing crazy things. An example of that is Lily Phillips. We've covered her like a million

00:52:43.780 times this week, so I'm not going to go too far back. But, you know, she's sleeping with a thousand

00:52:48.860 men in a day. And that's the marketing we have right now. You know, okay, I'm not saying every

00:52:55.060 woman does that, obviously. But this is what's making the news. This is what's making the

00:53:01.060 headlines and by the way it's only going to get worse I don't see it getting better now

00:53:06.840 there is a recent trend where women are showing themselves with a boyfriend and with no boyfriend

00:53:15.360 and they essentially are marketing again that in relationships they will look uglier I mean

00:53:23.620 like I don't know why we do these trends I'm like what are you trying to sell here

00:53:28.640 you're going to look worse when the men start dating you. So this is a woman and she says

00:53:34.520 boyfriend. That's her. No boyfriend. Now, I think it's like makeup, plastic surgery.

00:53:47.120 I think she got a nose job. I think that's the biggest thing.

00:53:51.420 Now, maybe a filter. I don't know. Then next we have

00:53:58.640 this woman right boyfriend

00:54:02.920 no boyfriend

00:54:06.960 and then the ladies come in the trad women say why don't the men want to get married i mean

00:54:14.300 we're awesome and then the other ladies are like this is what you're going to get in a relationship

00:54:20.660 this is what you're going to get when i'm not oh the jesus cross there of course

00:54:28.640 you know then we have another one here

00:54:37.280 boyfriend no boyfriend i mean she kind of looks the same but

00:54:46.240 what are we doing ladies i don't this is the worst marketing campaign we've ever had

00:54:53.040 and we do it to ourselves the men don't even have to negatively market we just we get together and

00:54:59.840 say how can we dissuade men from being with us how can we do the worst pr campaign humanly possible

00:55:11.600 and yeah i mean we just really outdo ourselves every month they and by the way i just want to

00:55:16.720 thank you guys because you ladies keep me employed forever i will always have a job i will always have

00:55:24.880 like thank you so much ladies because you give me a plethora of things to cover

00:55:31.600 you know what so i can't even be mad at you guys i really can't um okay let me see if um i'm gonna

00:55:41.120 to, so the main topic of today is I am going to invite a woman onto my show who disagrees

00:55:46.640 with me. We're a little ahead of schedule, so I'm going to check really quick. Um, she's

00:55:51.480 not on yet, right? Yeah, no, I didn't think so. I'm going to say you can come on now.

00:55:56.980 I didn't think I would get, if you can't, didn't think I would get here, but let me

00:56:02.260 just react, I guess, while we wait to, let's see what we got. Oh, actually, someone sent me. I'm

00:56:16.520 going to react to something. If you guys have anything, send it to me on Twitter. I'm going

00:56:20.480 to react to something one of my followers sent me. Let me see. There was a pretty good video.

00:56:32.260 Where is it? Link here.

00:56:41.760 I saw one, which was I guess I can't find it.

00:56:46.620 Let's react to a Kevin Samuels clip just for good time's sake.

00:56:52.660 I just think it'll be fun.

00:56:54.440 Let's let's do it for.

00:56:57.120 You know, just for because he is the goat.

00:57:00.240 let's look at his best and savage moments

00:57:02.860 with women or whatnot so I don't know so if you guys don't know I'll tell you guys

00:57:09.780 I really I forget how many new people I have watching me so Kevin Samuels had a call-in show

00:57:16.040 where women would ask him for relationship advice and this was partially how the manosphere like

00:57:22.720 became mainstream but unfortunately he was one of my main people I wanted to interview but he

00:57:28.060 passed away it was really sad but um he was so funny i used to love his show i guess he has like

00:57:36.680 trust issues with women or whatnot so i'm like sharing my location with him just to make him

00:57:41.640 feel comfortable are you have you had any therapy yes i have in the past you need to go back oh my

00:57:50.520 gosh really you're already trying to make him feel comfortable two weeks into it right it's too much

00:57:59.080 proving to do you're not his you're not his wife i'm just being nice and being like no it's not

00:58:04.760 no no it's not being nice it's being a people pleaser that's not normal that's not normal

00:58:11.000 you want to be nice all right let's go out a couple of times i need you give me ten thousand

00:58:14.520 dollars be nice oh be be nice i mean come on be nice i mean come on be nice i need ten thousand

00:58:21.880 dollars and we need to go ahead and run the soul trainer be nice no of course so you so so there

00:58:27.320 are things that sound crazy to you yeah yeah sharing your location with somebody you've gone

00:58:32.600 out with twice is crazy okay i give myself a solid 9.8 what would you guys give her in the chat

00:58:44.520 She says a nine point.

00:58:48.180 Look at her face.

00:58:55.020 A three.

00:58:57.160 You didn't even have to say anything.

00:58:58.720 Being pretty is not enough for a lot of men

00:59:00.380 because I'm pretty and I'm still single.

00:59:04.020 What do you want?

00:59:08.460 I don't know.

00:59:10.440 I really don't know what I want

00:59:11.920 because these men, they don't know what they want.

00:59:14.520 A lot of men don't know what they want in women.

00:59:16.780 And you said you're how old again?

00:59:18.440 33.

00:59:19.820 33.

00:59:21.020 So regardless as to what men want, you don't know what you want?

00:59:25.740 I mean, I know what I want, but...

00:59:28.040 What is that?

00:59:31.120 Guys, remember the first thing I said about ego?

00:59:33.120 They're not willing to be honest.

00:59:35.500 To be honest with you, I ain't gonna lie.

00:59:37.100 I don't know what I want in a man.

00:59:38.720 Like, I've been screwed and fucked for so long,

00:59:41.300 I don't know what I want in a man.

00:59:42.560 just in this little bit of time talking to you it's been chaotic i'm just asking you just the

00:59:47.660 basic stuff about your who you are and what you want and um the way you told the story is

00:59:54.460 yeah you can't make this shit up people

00:59:57.880 to let you know i have completed my life i made a 360. the 360 puts you right back where you were

01:00:07.000 but I understand what you're saying.

01:00:08.260 I made a 180.

01:00:09.960 I found Lord and I got a man that's got money now.

01:00:15.100 You found a Lord?

01:00:16.280 Yeah.

01:00:17.040 Where'd you find a man?

01:00:17.900 I didn't know he was lost.

01:00:19.200 I didn't know where the Lord was.

01:00:21.240 Okay.

01:00:21.880 This is all inside of the last four months, right?

01:00:24.960 Three months, four months.

01:00:26.960 Yeah.

01:00:27.660 It's a lot of changing in three or four months.

01:00:29.500 You said you got a man that has money now.

01:00:32.060 Yeah.

01:00:35.000 I do.

01:00:35.640 I just wanted to let you know, also, I wear my bonnet in public.

01:00:40.160 I saw what you had to say about that.

01:00:43.040 You know, I get where you're coming from, but at the same time, like...

01:00:47.220 You can't make this shit up.

01:00:48.580 Hmm?

01:00:49.560 At the same time, you what?

01:00:51.660 Did you tell me to shut up?

01:00:53.080 No, no, no.

01:00:53.820 I said, go ahead.

01:00:55.000 You said, at the same time...

01:00:56.900 At the same time, I just don't see what the issue of wearing a bonnet in public is.

01:01:01.360 i got married but i don't want to be oh this was the worst one oh i remember that you got married

01:01:10.920 yeah you're currently married yes oh no no no

01:01:17.460 oh you gotta be kidding me ma'am are you trolling me no i'm not a platform with a million folks

01:01:29.140 actively talking about leaving your husband to get back with your ex.

01:01:33.380 Because he's high value and I look like.

01:01:39.300 And the reason you want to break your covenant with God

01:01:43.340 and wreck your home of the pipe fitter guy

01:01:46.200 is because the previous guy was higher value, meaning he earns more money?

01:01:51.800 Yeah, and his social status, how he looks.

01:01:56.680 What would the world say about that man?

01:01:58.380 it would say that this woman he got back with is the one he's always wanted she belongs to the

01:02:05.540 street yeah this woman called into a show said she was married and wanted her ex-boyfriend back

01:02:14.420 and her husband still stayed with her it's a simpidemic guys it really is

01:02:22.920 these um excuse my french niggas alone they always want to take me to court

01:02:31.080 yeah what does that mean it means that it's like when i break up with a guy

01:02:38.840 i go through divorces because they can't take me leaving them in the dust in the dirt where i left

01:02:45.640 them because they don't act right so i have to move on is that right do you think that that's

01:02:52.360 right of them why are you so why are you why are you such a poor judge of character to pick me and

01:02:57.080 you gotta leave wearing that back oh damn oh damn why are you such a portrait no ma'am i know ma'am

01:03:05.960 i listened to what you said you came in talking about how you feel like you're in divorce court

01:03:10.120 because you got to leave these men in the dirt and all i hear is you're a judge of character

01:03:13.800 picking men because you don't leave quality men you absolutely right so god please stop telling me

01:03:19.080 that's right no no god ain't got nothing to do with it no god ain't got nothing to do with it

01:03:23.800 please don't bring my god into this please don't bring my god into this he couldn't have children

01:03:29.320 anymore and he was unaware of that so i like immediately divorced him because children was

01:03:38.280 the outcome that i wanted to have it is what it is it was terrible but but like i told him from

01:03:47.640 the beginning like i wanted i got married so we could have children and then he found out he

01:03:52.520 couldn't have children after we got married so now i am actively looking karma is a how do

01:04:02.600 you know you're going to be able to carry your children to term exactly i know that's what i i

01:04:09.560 do know that it is i'm not it it is i'm i'm like i said so i'm asking seriously ma'am it's not

01:04:16.440 really value judging as much as i'm just trying to hold a mirror up to you because you say this

01:04:21.640 the you say to people around you and they let you believe this stuff i'm telling you

01:04:26.200 somebody who got no dog in the fight how old are you 35. play in all types of um arenas

01:04:40.200 i work in those arenas i work in all of those okay how about this give me a favor okay oh

01:04:51.720 talk to me like i'm four or a cock or spanish because you're not really saying anything

01:04:57.240 and you said you how old again

01:05:00.920 i will let you guess that i don't i don't i don't play these games you leave the answer

01:05:05.080 my questions or i'll bid you a good night 43 okay one thing i don't do is i don't do these things

01:05:11.640 i don't know you so you've been married we all know this keep going well then

01:05:19.160 i will say this though you've gone from 35 to 43 just like that that's amazing i did didn't i yeah

01:05:25.720 I gotta find this crazy I don't like fires Kevin Samuels was actually the go I I miss him so much

01:05:38.380 I wish he didn't pass away he was such a good um Lila Rose is doing a live stream on Lily Phillips

01:05:46.060 right now um Lila Rose I'm gonna bring up someone in a second but I do want to see that I guess

01:05:55.180 that's for tomorrow fellas. Okay. All right. So guys, so on Twitter, I gave a open call. I said,

01:06:03.980 anybody that's got disagreements with me, you are welcome to call into my show and talk about

01:06:08.220 our disagreements. I think this is really important. Um, because you know, if, um,

01:06:15.180 you know, if I'm going to say these things, I do want to back them up. And I did, there was a nice

01:06:19.340 young woman who messaged me on Twitter and said that she had some disagreements with me.

01:06:24.160 and i decided why not let's do it at the end of a live show and we can go through them today so

01:06:31.760 today i have

01:06:36.140 katura hickman all right sorry

01:06:41.860 i was like i was like i don't i don't want to mispronounce this or shag bark's wife coming

01:06:49.780 onto the show um and she gave me a list of disagreements but hi welcome to the show nice

01:06:55.780 to meet you thank you it's very nice to to be on here and to talk to you so where have you seen my

01:07:02.100 content before like where have you mostly consumed it from um i'm mostly on twitter i don't really

01:07:08.640 watch a lot of youtube okay um mostly i don't have a smartphone so i get on twitter a couple

01:07:14.140 times a week on my laptop okay and where are you from like what part of the country are you in

01:07:19.780 Yeah, I was raised in the Midwest, and then when I was 16, my family moved to Montana.

01:07:24.480 And now I'm married to a man who travels all over the states, but we're based in upstate New York.

01:07:30.140 So I've been all over.

01:07:31.800 And you, if you don't mind, you said you grew up in a Christian cult?

01:07:37.640 Yeah, it's kind of considered a cult.

01:07:39.260 It's kind of Protestant, kind of Messianic.

01:07:42.320 What do you mean kind of a cult?

01:07:43.860 Sorry, I don't mean to laugh, but I'm like.

01:07:45.560 everyone would consider a cult and i kind of embrace that term just because it's kind of edgy

01:07:51.020 and fun okay but also hate cults i think it's i think it's a slur that people use against certain

01:07:56.880 christian sex just just to disvalue like their beliefs but um so i embrace it but we're definitely

01:08:03.780 very niche we're like ex-pentecostal kind of jew but very christian but very into the old testament

01:08:08.720 but now my husband's catholic and i've also i've had a lot of like frustrations with like

01:08:13.800 protestant christianity a lot growing up anyway so it was very easy for me to transition into

01:08:17.580 catholicism even though i was raised in a very very very anti-catholic sect okay and is i'm just

01:08:24.400 i'm just curious was your like was your experience positive or negative i know you're leaving but was

01:08:30.340 it um it was positive okay so you you okay go ahead yeah because i was um you know i i like

01:08:39.120 to compare our family sometimes to jews because we're much our beliefs are very jew-like even

01:08:43.420 though we're still we still accept jesus as the savior um but basically you know when a jewish

01:08:49.820 person is very very like adamant in their faith maybe like back in the old torah days but nowadays

01:08:55.500 a secular jew is like yeah i'm a jew but my faith is kind of secondary well i was fourth generation

01:09:01.020 in this kind of cult so i was at the point where my faith was a great part of my life like i love

01:09:05.580 our traditions but i didn't take it so seriously where i hated other people who believe differently

01:09:10.220 I mean, I kind of was like, why do you take it so seriously that I believe differently than you?

01:09:14.040 Like, this is just all traditions.

01:09:15.380 We all believe in the same God and we believe in the same Messiah.

01:09:18.000 So, like, why do you hate me for how I dress or for how I eat?

01:09:21.560 Like, that's just kind of crazy.

01:09:23.140 Is it similar to Amish?

01:09:24.840 Like, I'm just I'm just curious.

01:09:26.160 That's what I'm thinking of as you're talking.

01:09:28.960 Yeah, it's a little similar to Amish in that we had a lot of respect for the Amish and lived like the Amish.

01:09:33.980 So we took a lot of lot from them.

01:09:36.000 And I wore I like I grew up in dresses.

01:09:37.500 I've never worn jeans.

01:09:38.460 I don't like jeans um and I like believe in modesty well I actually believe in femininity

01:09:44.500 more than I believe with modesty but I'm also I kind of believe in modesty too okay so you gave

01:09:49.860 me a list of your disagreements and you said it's important to know your audience and which

01:09:55.720 group of women you're speaking to I speak to actual traditional Christian teenage girls who

01:10:01.680 aren't found in the Twitter sphere could you tell me a little bit more of what you meant by that

01:10:05.940 point yeah so i feel like one of the things about your twitter is i'll like be reading your twitter

01:10:11.680 and i'm like oh i agree with that or i agree with that oh but all women are bad even though i agree

01:10:16.320 with this and i know a lot of good women who would agree with this and like saying the right thing

01:10:20.660 like in our circles divorce is horrible and usually the woman who the people who file for

01:10:25.380 divorce are usually women and like that that's a terrible thing and i think that's bad and in my

01:10:29.840 circles we speak out against that type of thing happening and so i guess part of the thing is like

01:10:34.780 i believe in speaking out against certain things that women are doing that are bad but i don't

01:10:39.920 believe in like saying that all women are doing that thing blanket like all women are doing that

01:10:44.660 thing yeah so in order to talk about what's going on in society i just i have to make generalizations

01:10:50.980 yeah i i do try to say like not it's not every single woman right i i understand there's

01:10:57.760 exceptions but i don't think like i don't know a single person that's from a christian cult

01:11:03.040 for example. Like, I don't think women with your upbringing are a significant majority in the

01:11:09.340 United States. And where I have a little bit different of a perspective was I did a show

01:11:15.620 where I interviewed women and I would have eight women at 1.6 days a week where I would go in and

01:11:21.540 we would do a panel show. Yeah, it was really crazy. I did this for two years. And what I would

01:11:27.640 learn is a lot of these women were from very traditional backgrounds so some were from i

01:11:33.720 was in london so it was very um i did do the panels like in the united states too but like

01:11:39.640 the main show was in london and i would find that many women would make the same decisions

01:11:45.640 even if they were from like a very traditional muslim country for example so um i know not all

01:11:53.080 women do think like that there are exceptions but when i'm looking at general trends like i i give

01:11:59.720 you another example i collected data from like 75 like conservative women off of twitter and i took

01:12:07.720 the data yeah and i took the tweet also i took the data from like um and i'm not saying one's

01:12:14.200 right or wrong right but i took the data from like even male conservatives wives just to like

01:12:20.520 conservative commentators wives just so i could be a little bit more fair it's not just the public

01:12:25.680 ones and i still found in terms of life decisions they're all really similar like um you know if

01:12:33.480 kids are delayed for a decade i have to assume you're on some sort of birth control you know

01:12:38.640 like and i'm not saying one's better or worse but like that's kind of how i came to that conclusion

01:12:44.380 Do you think that's wrong?

01:12:47.040 I don't think that's completely wrong because, so for instance, I write a lot on femininity

01:12:53.120 and dressing like a woman and acting like a woman and submitting to your husband in

01:12:58.180 a way that's like beautiful and good.

01:13:01.100 And I write against divorce.

01:13:02.740 Like, I don't think divorce should ever be an option, even in the case of adultery.

01:13:05.680 I think we're permitted to do that, but I don't think we should necessarily have it

01:13:08.440 as an option seal.

01:13:09.240 what I find out on like the traditional uh Twitter sphere from what I've seen because when I first

01:13:16.480 came to Twitter I was like wait there's traditional people out there talking about traditionalism

01:13:19.760 this is so cool because I grew up being hated for being traditional but here people are doing it and

01:13:24.520 then I started to realize like these people aren't real traditional people these people are all fakes

01:13:28.400 they all converted in their 20s none most of them didn't weren't raised this way a lot of girls who

01:13:33.540 were raised this way they they get cognitive like feminist type things because they don't like the

01:13:37.880 idea of submission I had a hard time with that as a teen too there comes a point where you're

01:13:42.560 raised in something and then you have to make the intentional choice to actually like abide by it

01:13:46.500 and I saw a lot of my aunts didn't like my aunts are very different than my sisters I mean they

01:13:50.780 they made the choice to like divorce their husbands and um not be good mother how old

01:13:58.080 are your aunts I'm just curious yeah my aunts are in their 30s and 40s and I'm uh 28 so I'm

01:14:05.900 actually really close in age to some of my aunts more than my cousins i'm the oldest of like 50 or

01:14:09.920 60 cousins and then i have like 30 aunts and uncles okay so i have a lot of relatives yeah

01:14:17.340 yeah so i hate to say it but you're kind of proving my point a little bit because the the

01:14:22.020 challenge the challenge is you know it's true we can say things like in our 20s but like like you

01:14:29.180 know i always say you know you put your money where your mouth is when the first like if we're

01:14:32.920 to push to traditionalism which i'm not saying one's better or worse but i'm saying like

01:14:38.040 if that's what you're pushing like where's the kids are you gonna pop out one four yeah you know

01:14:44.040 yeah so my point is who we look to for our role models so i don't look to my aunts as role models

01:14:48.600 i look to my grandma's who both stayed through to through very difficult marriages both of their

01:14:53.720 husbands would probably be considered cult leaders like i'm not joking like both of my grandpas are

01:14:57.800 probably legit cult leaders but my grandmas have stayed loyal to them even though their daughters

01:15:02.760 have begged them to divorce their husband their their their fathers they've stayed loyal to them

01:15:07.480 my mom and dad who are also the oldest of both their families i'm also the oldest in my family

01:15:10.920 i have 11 younger siblings like i just love my wow that's amazing 11 yeah go ahead sorry yeah

01:15:19.880 no there's a lot of children in our family but but i look to my grandma's as an example and also my

01:15:25.240 mom she's been with my dad for like i mean longer than i've been born so like what nearly 30 years

01:15:30.760 and my mom has been encouraged by many people to divorce her husband for like the most ridiculous

01:15:35.240 reasons and then i married um people all already at the start were like telling me like oh when i

01:15:41.400 first got together with my husband like basically my husband and i were before we were even married

01:15:45.960 we were like we're not breaking this engagement off even like we we didn't even see like an option

01:15:49.640 for breaking the engagement off once we decided to be engaged kind of thing and people like tried

01:15:53.160 so hard to separate us because of our faith differences of course i've i if you're like

01:15:58.680 I feel like if you marry a man who you respect and love,

01:16:00.800 you become more like him,

01:16:02.300 which a lot of traditional women don't get.

01:16:04.500 They still want to keep their own identity.

01:16:05.960 They want to be feminist.

01:16:07.000 They want to keep on wearing whatever clothes

01:16:08.960 that they were raised in

01:16:09.700 instead of actually learning to be more modest

01:16:11.460 and more feminine.

01:16:12.880 And so I think that's mostly what I,

01:16:14.800 the differences between what I'm saying

01:16:16.240 between yours and mine,

01:16:17.080 like while you're saying true things,

01:16:18.860 I'm like, how can we like look to that subset of women

01:16:22.000 who are doing the right thing

01:16:23.080 and look to them as role models

01:16:24.840 and what is it that they're doing right

01:16:26.360 and how are they submitting in a way

01:16:27.620 that's beautiful and inspirational?

01:16:28.680 all yeah so i what i'm not saying is that there aren't examples i think it's better to look in

01:16:34.760 your own personal life like there's someone i could think of that if i wanted advice from that

01:16:39.560 i know personally that i would go to rather than the internet right but when i'm talking i'm trying

01:16:45.360 to predict trends and unfortunately like you're kind of saying what i say which is that women

01:16:51.720 we tend to be a roll of the dice so if someone picked someone from your mom's family like your

01:16:56.760 mom sounds like a lovely woman right but if they picked your mom's sister then they would have

01:17:03.700 you know what I'm saying so it's there's no guarantees and the sad thing is you know like

01:17:09.300 you're saying men have to deal with the fact that everybody is telling us to leave even from I mean

01:17:15.920 it sounds like almost Amish right yeah you know so it's not I don't mean to be pessimistic but I

01:17:24.120 have to make predictions into the future and i don't see the birth rate going up and i don't see

01:17:32.100 traditional values getting better sat unfortunately right i guess that's actually a good a good point

01:17:40.240 between like how i feel like my vision with what i do versus yours like you're morally like you

01:17:45.320 said talking about trends and predictions whereas i'm looking to like the few women who i think are

01:17:50.220 actually like salvageable I'm like hey I think I think that you and I should be buddies and like

01:17:55.280 this try to be better wives and better mothers and like no matter like this ignore the static

01:17:59.360 statistics let's not be one of the statistics does this be that minority of women kind of thing

01:18:03.460 yeah and so the sad thing is I the the thing is when I interview women at different ages

01:18:09.700 you start to see trends that that's why I was kind of asking you like how old are you you know

01:18:15.020 you you like you I feel the like light in your eyes still you're very happy and bubbly and that

01:18:20.820 that's very common with like young women right but then the the problem is there tends to be

01:18:27.540 in their 30s a round of divorces you know like you're talking about and you see women that in

01:18:33.900 their 20s were like happy and as bubbly like you know I'll give you a public example but there's

01:18:39.760 ones i know in my personal life too right like lauren southern do you know her she might be i

01:18:45.360 don't she was a very big right-wing commentator and she left the internet to go be traditional

01:18:51.360 right she like got married left and then two years later she comes back divorced and abused

01:18:57.280 you know you know the like makes it and it's like i see these things and i'm like i can't not

01:19:04.480 you know i can't not predict that most people will be statistics i could say like

01:19:08.880 Like, Brett Cooper, for example, I think she'll stay married if I had to predict.

01:19:14.400 Yeah.

01:19:15.040 You know, but, you know, but she, even her, she still didn't take her husband's last name publicly.

01:19:22.920 Oh, which I think that definitely is kind of a bad sign.

01:19:26.020 It is a bad sign, you know.

01:19:27.580 I will also say that there's a difference between Protestant traditionalism and Catholic traditionalism.

01:19:33.520 This is what I've been seeing, at least.

01:19:34.640 In the Protestant circles, there's a lot of excuses made for divorcing on the grounds of abuse, whereas in Catholics, they're very anti birth control and very anti divorce, much more so than Protestant Christians are.

01:19:46.800 And I think I wonder if maybe you've done a study in the difference between like a Catholic trad and a Protestant trad.

01:19:52.020 Yeah, I I'll just give my anecdotal experience. I know I don't want to misquote this to you, but I know when they look at divorces, Catholics rate isn't very different than the other. Maybe it's 10 percent less, but it's still significant what they'll do. And this is kind of a common religious argument is they'll say they're not like real.

01:20:16.080 so they'll say you're not real if you're not praying once a day you don't count if you don't

01:20:20.740 do this you don't count you know and to me that's kind of like picking and shoot you know yeah

01:20:26.140 protestants i could say that any person who's divorced and their husband isn't a sincere

01:20:31.220 christian and i would probably believe that like for the majority of women who are doing that

01:20:35.120 yeah but it's still tough for the men if they're picking wives at 20 they don't know at 30 is she

01:20:40.680 gonna still be a real catholic you know yeah we don't they can't they can't know um but when it

01:20:47.860 comes to just anecdotally growing up in catholic like i went to catholic school i didn't really

01:20:55.280 see a big difference in the behavior um i would get you know i would say you know my producers

01:21:01.860 like very very catholic he could tell you more about like the latin mass community like they're

01:21:08.060 a bit more strict than like the normal you know i'm sure you're you're probably in a latin mass

01:21:13.980 one right yeah my husband's latin mass yeah yeah you guys are more yeah you guys are more serious

01:21:19.820 than the you know but um the worst divorce story i ever had one of them was from a latin mass

01:21:28.220 community like i've done a lot of interviews of like men that went through really bad divorces

01:21:33.180 the probably the worst one was from he married a woman that like went to a traditional latin mass

01:21:40.060 wow so you know again i don't try to like i don't try to like you know i really was happy i grew up

01:21:49.500 with married parents i was really happy we were catholic but i just don't see that as a guarantee

01:21:55.020 for 20 year old men today does that make sense what do you see as a guarantee i guess that's

01:22:00.540 maybe another thing that i wonder like are you just predicting trends or do you also hope to

01:22:05.660 see men find success and happiness um i don't see anything as a guarantee i think there's no

01:22:11.900 guarantees in life i don't i i follow incentives so as long as people are getting paid for being

01:22:19.180 fake christians on the internet i think we're always going to see it the problem is as long

01:22:24.460 as women are paid to leave their husbands and their children or and take the children i don't

01:22:29.740 think it'll stop yeah that makes sense yeah i think i also like wrote a little bit back because

01:22:35.980 like i think one of the i did watch like two of your videos on like worse and stuff and like one

01:22:41.100 of the things i noticed was you said that women are more likely to divorce than men are that women

01:22:45.580 have more of an ego and i actually i i guess i i believe that because i believe that all human

01:22:51.260 beings are fallen and like both men and women are like you know sent like have sinned them since

01:22:56.620 they were born that like both men and women have an ego but whereas a man's ego is going to make

01:23:02.060 him like watch out for his public personality and his his public like um respectability you know he

01:23:08.140 wants to be respected in the public eye and he's more respected if he has a wife who's staying with

01:23:12.460 him and he has children who's staying with him whereas a woman she might find respect more if

01:23:16.220 she's on her own and she's like look at me i'm doing my thing on my own and i don't need no man

01:23:19.660 kind of thing and i think that there's ego in both ways and sometimes um an ego physical man is is

01:23:27.660 not necessarily um he's not necessarily motivated to take good care of his wife as long as his wife

01:23:33.980 is staying with him he might like incur like use abuse or whatever to make her stay with him

01:23:39.420 whereas a woman who's egotistical might like you know file lawsuit against her husband take

01:23:44.860 everything that he owns it's still abuse on both sides like she's taken all of his financial

01:23:49.260 stability and he's taken you know all of her personal security but there's like still like

01:23:54.000 these egos but in a good marriage there's no ego a man is actually providing and protecting his wife

01:23:58.060 and a woman submitting to him and helping him with his dreams and staying loyal to him and neither

01:24:02.020 of them are worried about their ego or their like like their public their public um persona so the

01:24:08.020 reason i think women have more egos is i think social media has like given us um delusion

01:24:16.340 basically where we even like i don't know if you were watching the show earlier maybe not but i

01:24:21.020 covered a woman it's totally fine i i covered a woman who like she's using filters right and

01:24:27.420 she's arguing with men on the internet that she's still hot it was just weird um but but they like

01:24:33.320 i think the women they get such attention from the filters that and like the fake hair the fake

01:24:39.840 you know they don't dress like you dress very modestly but if you were to not do that you would

01:24:45.100 get attention from very high level men right even like anyone you know anyone that yeah so

01:24:52.320 um we call it the sin of vanity i think women suffer with vanity more than men do

01:24:57.660 and men suffer with like actual pride and egotism more than women do well it's all the same thing

01:25:03.640 but there's like a kind of a different brand like vanity is much more an extreme sin for women well

01:25:09.580 my point is more I don't think we deal with reality until our looks start to fade because

01:25:15.960 the world gives us so many opportunities that men they just they're just told they suck from

01:25:21.640 a young age and that humbles them a little bit you know I have seven brothers so I also do see

01:25:27.400 the difference between how like women and men get treated like in the public sphere yeah it's

01:25:31.940 really frustrated with I mean my two brothers just under me are now married but they have had

01:25:36.220 horrible dating experiences I also had a horrible dating experience before I met my husband but

01:25:40.700 uh girls can be what were quite mean to my brothers I will say that like it was kind of sad

01:25:46.160 yeah but um yeah I hated it I think that's another thing that too that's like encouraged

01:25:51.940 my sisters and I to be like like honest with the men who pursued us we were like we didn't

01:25:57.020 want to be like the girls who were mean to our brothers yeah anything yeah um what was the third

01:26:02.540 one. You said women are more, there is a subset. Okay. I think that was kind of the first one.

01:26:07.460 There are a subset of women who would never dream of divorcing their husbands, even in the case of

01:26:11.760 adultery. How do we find these women and how do we raise the numbers in a healthy way?

01:26:17.820 You know, like just from interviewing people, I'm sorry, I'm going to read this one more time

01:26:23.160 because I think I was kind of mumbling. So her third point guys was statistically women are more

01:26:27.820 likely to file for divorce. However, they're a subset group of women that would never dream of

01:26:32.800 divorcing their husbands, even in the case of adultery. How do we find these women and how do

01:26:37.140 we raise the numbers in a healthy way? So I think that the reason red pill content came out, I don't

01:26:43.780 know if you know too much of the history of it. Just barely. Yeah. Well, it was men in forums

01:26:50.880 trying to solve their problems. So they would say, hey, my wife wasn't sleeping with me.

01:26:55.420 and the other men would say hey try this see if this works try this see if that works so I I think

01:27:03.000 you know if there was a way to do that men would have figured it out I just think there's no

01:27:09.580 guarantees and just like you know um the men 15 years ago or 20 years ago with your mom and your

01:27:16.380 aunts it was a roll of the dice which sister to pick right you got they got one and they got

01:27:22.860 complete loyalty and they got another and they got divorce like one it sounds like had an amazing

01:27:28.580 life and one and i think you could probably see that in the differences um like in any family i

01:27:35.160 think you can notice like differences so yeah um i think it's a little bit predictable on the

01:27:40.760 individual like i think a lot of boys they see a pretty girl and they don't look at her values

01:27:45.380 and the word she's saying and they just marry her for her looks that's true for men it's often the

01:27:50.420 roll of device uh of dice but if our when our brothers have asked us sisters oh which girl

01:27:56.060 should i go for and us girls like oh that girl's bad news and then they date her and then we're

01:28:00.280 like well we kind of told you so going after a girl like my my one brother he just married a

01:28:05.880 girl who was one of my sister's friends and my sister kept being like hey you should just date

01:28:10.020 this girl she might not be as pretty as the other girls though she actually is great but you know

01:28:14.360 at first glance she's like a very conservative girl and he's and my sister's just like go for

01:28:18.580 this girl she's a little shy she's but she this is the girl who's going to stick with you and my

01:28:22.820 brother was like that and i think that's one way that we can help men is if men have trusted female

01:28:28.340 friends especially ones who are already married uh we know if a girl is going to be if a woman's

01:28:33.460 going to be like a submissive loyal um wife and if she's going to be like telling her husband like

01:28:38.260 no no sex or like doing all these types of things because it's women who like tell each other things

01:28:42.740 like who who give each other this type of encouragement and this type of advice that

01:28:47.300 you know like oh you know like you shouldn't be like using as a sex as a bribe you should be like

01:28:51.780 loving your husband through all things and like like there are whole books written on this for

01:28:57.060 women that women either choose to read or choose to reject or hear from other wiser women like my

01:29:02.420 grandma she gave me excellent marriage advice that i took my aunts also gave me bad marriage advice

01:29:07.780 but i had to choose who to listen to exactly and unfortunately what women are choosing to listen to

01:29:14.340 is the only fans right that's that's what's going up in numbers crazy unfortunately um i do think

01:29:21.780 that men are blinded by beauty a lot of the times i do agree with you there are times and when i was

01:29:27.780 interviewing men that were completely wrecked by a divorce um there were times where i would

01:29:32.980 interview someone and say yeah of course she was gonna do that like obviously but then there were

01:29:38.420 times where um the woman changed she got into the wrong friend group and she sort of changed

01:29:44.420 she started watching the you know there's whole websites dedicated to um convincing women to like

01:29:51.620 rationalize leaving their husband and convince them that they're you know there's just so much

01:29:56.420 working against everything that it takes a really strong woman like yourself you know to go against

01:30:02.500 it. And I just, if I'm a betting woman, I don't think there's enough wives to go around. And the

01:30:09.240 other challenge you get is the wives that are there have so many options that sometimes it

01:30:13.860 ruins them too. Yeah, no, it's an intentional thing. I, I myself over the course of my twenties,

01:30:20.840 cause I'm, I'm getting closer to being 30 at this point. And I've had like a lot of ups and downs

01:30:25.760 through my 20s um being single for like most of that you know and there were moments where i was

01:30:33.460 like i never identified as a feminist because i like hated that term ever since i was a kid but i

01:30:39.120 uh there were moments where i i saw myself becoming more feminist minded and or i would be

01:30:45.200 like oh maybe i ran a really successful business for a few years and i felt very like um empowered

01:30:51.600 through that and so i had to like think about these words in a way because like what does it

01:30:55.600 mean for a woman to be empowered in a way that's actually healthy for her long term um how do i

01:31:00.400 continue to keep myself vulnerable and feminine even when the world is trying to make me something

01:31:04.480 that's not vulnerable and feminine and these things were difficult things and i went through

01:31:08.480 periods where i like almost was like the red pill woman you know who hated men kind of thing vice

01:31:14.480 versa i don't know if that's a term or not but you know i mean and so i would have to literally like

01:31:19.680 like put myself in this mindset and be like okay for these next five months i'm only going to wear

01:31:24.560 dresses that have flowers on them instead of wearing my more practical sturdy dresses or i'm

01:31:28.560 only going to talk or every time a man asks me out i'm going to say yes because i went through

01:31:32.640 a phase where i said no to a bunch of men and i was like wait this is probably not actually good

01:31:36.480 for me or for them so i started like giving men like for a five month span i went out with every

01:31:41.680 man who asked me out and then if i felt like i didn't see it going in a good direction i would

01:31:46.320 give them kind feedback like i would want girls to do for my brothers kind of thing that's my husband

01:31:51.520 hi hello yeah and um but i think that's what what it boils down to is that it is true that any woman

01:31:58.800 can be corrupted by her friend group or by the world around her by her experiences and that's

01:32:03.840 why she has to like remain intentional and focus on god and focus on beauty and focus on what it

01:32:09.120 means to be a woman in order to combat how how easy it is to fall into like a dark side of

01:32:14.960 from the nature yeah and i totally agree but my point is it's in everybody and so even like women

01:32:22.000 like you seem you know very like you you seem like you'd be a green flag but even you're capable of

01:32:27.600 falling too oh yeah i'm capable we're all capable of it yeah exactly and the the challenge is men

01:32:34.080 just have a lot to lose nowadays and some men are just gonna say it's not worth the risk right not

01:32:39.920 all like your husband he said worth it you know but that's just not every guy um i will say though

01:32:47.760 for the men who for the men like my husband says his life is completely different and i know my

01:32:52.080 life's completely different we both feel changed by by marriage because there's something in you

01:32:57.600 that if you're doing it with god at the center of it and like you literally are doing it out of a

01:33:02.080 sense of love instead of out of a sense of oh my needs first kind of thing it's such a beautiful

01:33:06.800 thing because we both become a better version of ourselves and it's not healthy for men to hate

01:33:11.760 women anymore that's healthy for women to hate men we're both made to love each other and to be

01:33:15.920 loved by each other yeah so the challenge with marriage um the challenge i have is i know with

01:33:23.440 every 100 men that get married there will be a percentage that commits suicide there will be

01:33:29.440 there's no like if ands or buts the suicide rate rises around the age of 45 which men um that's

01:33:36.960 around the age they get married it's either 40 or 45 can't remember off the top of my head i have

01:33:42.720 i just can't morally push it i'll give you an example there's a woman who she or a man i just

01:33:49.840 interviewed the other day he's around 60 years old and he was just put on alimony for the next

01:33:55.200 his wife they had six kids they adopted three she divorced him when they were teenagers i'm

01:34:00.320 sure at your age they felt the same way you did they were both christians at 60 she changed her

01:34:06.480 mind and now he has to put off retirement until he's 75. that's almost slavery right yes i don't

01:34:15.600 i don't wish that i don't i like i don't i hope that's not you i hope that's not anyone i talk

01:34:22.800 to but i i just can't not look at the stats and and like i would feel bad if i pushed that someone

01:34:31.440 did it and then they end up enslaved to a woman for 18 years another example and i get messages

01:34:39.040 from men telling me that they chose that because they thought it was the right thing because of

01:34:43.200 their religion and how much it messed up their lives like stephen crowder is another example

01:34:49.440 and i use him a lot yeah but yeah that story that's a terrible story and she was a virgin bride

01:34:56.480 and you know she they went through a terrible divorce he was giving her thirty thousand dollars

01:35:01.200 and i mean i'll take a slap for thirty thousand dollars a month he wasn't hitting her but i'm just

01:35:06.960 saying you know um yeah so it's i just can't be blind to it and i know there's winners and there's

01:35:15.520 people it really works out for but you know the men are gonna look at it and think well what do

01:35:20.880 i get out of marriage that i don't get out of a girlfriend and feedback i've gotten from men

01:35:26.560 is a lot of times they get the ring and the behavior gets worse so they're thinking why

01:35:31.360 don't i just not do that you know yeah and that's a good question for women to consider too because

01:35:37.680 they should make sure that whatever they're giving their husband after they get the ring is just as

01:35:42.080 good if not better than before they get the ring no i think it's a fair criticism yeah well it's

01:35:48.960 you know i i try not to say should i used to say it a lot um like i can't say this one phrase

01:35:54.720 because it got me kicked off of youtube but women you know like the voting stuff i can't talk about

01:36:00.560 that on youtube anymore but but um the it should is just like a wish list it's still not a prediction

01:36:10.480 like saying women should do this like they're not predicted to you know what i mean yeah yeah well

01:36:17.360 it's an individual thing you can't you can't make women all be good mothers and wives it's something

01:36:21.360 that a woman needs to decide on her own yeah yeah how can i tell a real trad from a larper was that

01:36:28.400 so you said they can't represent trad culture because they weren't raised in it and aren't

01:36:33.520 intuitively traditional likewise most women purporting to be conservative online aren't

01:36:39.040 actually conservative however this doesn't mean that true traditional women don't exist

01:36:43.440 who are they what are they what do they look like how can i tell a real trad from a trad larper

01:36:48.800 so i'm under the belief that there's no traditional women anymore

01:36:53.840 and the reason i think that is because women always have the upper hand

01:36:58.800 so like um if men um you know right now in a marriage men have no way of enforcing enforcement

01:37:09.040 So if she says, I want to leave and I want to steal your kids and your money, she ultimately has the upper hand because she has the leverage.

01:37:17.380 I think the only way you can be in a traditional marriage is if somehow the men have the leverage.

01:37:23.160 Yeah. OK, so I guess I would partially disagree because a lot of women who are actually raised in fundamental traditional homes are usually terrified of divorce because their entire communities would shun them and cut them off.

01:37:39.040 um the amish are a great example in this i know there's some divorces that happen in the amish

01:37:43.600 of course but still the the rate of divorce is much rarer i've never known i know a lot of amish

01:37:48.640 i've never known an amish person to get divorced unless they become like i will i will give you

01:37:53.040 the amish i will i'll give you the amish fine they can count sorry there i yeah there i'll give you

01:38:00.240 the amish go ahead have you also heard of the of um debbie pearl she wrote she and her husband

01:38:07.200 wrote a book on marriage and divorce and i know that whole circle of people and there are several

01:38:11.920 people in their um their orbits who have gotten divorces but they're considered like the black

01:38:18.400 sheep of those communities and um like debbie pearl and nancy campbell both i don't know if

01:38:23.520 you know those women they're very controversial people christian women actually like modern

01:38:28.400 feminist type christian women actually hate them because these two women speak out against divorce

01:38:32.880 these women have been married for like 60 or seven years and they've each raised like

01:38:36.400 six to eight children and um and uh they're based out of tennessee but there's a whole

01:38:41.840 group of christians in that area that mostly dress modest that would not get divorced under

01:38:47.120 any circumstances including adultery and where if the woman left she literally would lose her

01:38:52.800 siblings her parents her family and her um uh just she would lose everything so she might get

01:39:00.320 from her husband but her husband's already pretty poor to begin with because so what religion are

01:39:05.200 they either in tennessee and they're what they're at evangelical christian um so a little bit

01:39:10.480 pentecostal um it's really hard they're not a specific denomination they're their own brand

01:39:15.280 of uh christianity um but evangelical i would be very surprised if there was no divorcees in there

01:39:23.360 i would be really there are divorces but they're the black sheep of their circles i i i would have

01:39:29.360 to if they're not amish i would sort of have to i'm welcome i'm open to going you know but i would

01:39:34.320 sort of have to see it to believe it um because what i would need to see from those communities

01:39:40.480 is women getting married around the age of 22 where they're dedicating their youth and having

01:39:45.360 children young um yeah i go ahead oh most of these girls in these communities get married between the

01:39:52.160 ages of 16 and 18. and so in my circles i didn't get married until i was 27 and everyone thought

01:39:58.080 i was never gonna get married because if you're not married by the time you're 22 or 23 in my

01:40:02.240 circles it's like oh there's something wrong with you or maybe like you're too intimidating for men

01:40:07.920 or a bunch of different reasons why i wasn't married by the time i got married but like all

01:40:13.760 my friends were married between the ages of 16 and 20. and in my friend group i have like

01:40:19.200 i had like 30 bridesmaids in my wedding wow my friend that's crazy that's a lot

01:40:27.920 i had one friend who's divorced in my friend group and all of us disapprove of her divorce

01:40:32.640 i i told her the whole time she was doing wrong her parents told her she was doing wrong everyone

01:40:36.960 told me she was doing wrong and it's turned out that because she just divorced him for mental

01:40:41.360 abuse right it wasn't for anything that was actually like legit yeah her son don't have

01:40:45.120 a terrible wife all the stuff but but the the point is is that in our circles she's a minority

01:40:50.240 she's like she's not the the person who who is being applauded for this or um is a majority so

01:40:58.240 but i would still say it's a prediction because it sounds like your friends are around 30 right

01:41:03.360 they're 28 to 30. at this point yeah most of them have been married most of them have have like

01:41:08.320 several kids and have been married for about 10 years the the average age of marriage is it's

01:41:13.280 it's you see where okay you see women if they're gonna put their money where their mouth is what

01:41:19.080 they do when they're done having children so typically women divorce when the youngest kid

01:41:23.700 they want to have is in preschool so i don't know how many kids they're having like um but i really

01:41:30.620 what they're all they all want large families lots of kids yeah and homes yeah and and the thing is

01:41:37.680 i i've just seen too much and like the the women that have a lot of kids they do divorce they just

01:41:44.480 do it a little bit later it's like after this not always right i'm sure there's some that are gonna

01:41:49.760 stay i would be surprised if they're that different than the statistics maybe 10 different

01:41:57.280 but i'd still guess that a third of them will divorce at some point yeah i think my friends

01:42:05.120 are the exception but i'm just biased yeah yeah yeah i mean that's i hope they are right but i

01:42:10.720 just i gotta be honest when i'm you know i'm not trying to lie or like it's just well i know from

01:42:16.480 your perspective you're reading statistics right so i understand that um yeah yeah i understand

01:42:22.080 that for sure what is break i don't watch breaking bad so i didn't really understand the breaking bad

01:42:28.400 yeah so i just thought this was a really fun thing because um it's a tv show that my husband

01:42:34.560 i recently watched together and we don't neither of us are really into tv but he was like this is

01:42:38.560 a tv show we have to watch and it's about this man who um is this high school teacher and he's

01:42:44.400 diagnosed with um lung cancer is that what it was andy lung cancer and anyways he um he decides that

01:42:51.360 he's going to start making meth because he wants to provide his family this whole hoard of wealth

01:42:57.120 before he dies and it basically goes into this idea that it's a man's duty to provide for his

01:43:01.680 family what at any cost so is it actually morally good or bad for him to like make meth he's not

01:43:07.680 using meth and he's just selling to people who'd already be doing it anyways and anyways he perfects

01:43:12.320 his like most perfect line of meth and he gets involved in all this like really scary stuff and

01:43:18.240 like halfway through the series his wife ends up finding out what he's up to and like where all

01:43:22.240 this money is coming from and she's pretty freaked out but she but um she doesn't really support him

01:43:27.440 very like she basically liked him before when she thought he was like this you know um socially

01:43:34.000 good person who you know abided by all the rules of society um she didn't like that he wasn't making

01:43:39.680 as much money as she thought he was but now that he's making all this money from math she's not

01:43:43.840 really sure but she wants the money and so it's like she files for divorce but she still wants

01:43:48.160 the money and anyways as the series goes on walter like loses the very thing he was fighting for

01:43:55.040 which was his wife and his children because he loses their respect and they just hate him because

01:43:59.920 he made meth but they can't see that he did it for them because society has purported this idea

01:44:04.880 that it's a man's duty to provide for his family at any cost like does that exclude making meth

01:44:09.760 it's like it like brings up these really great like um moral questions about like how society

01:44:14.640 views a man's uh duty to his family and how a family like goes with that well there's a sequel

01:44:20.000 series called um better call saul and it's about this lawyer who is morally corrupt and he does

01:44:26.240 all this crazy stuff and he's got this girlfriend who's a really good girl um she's got she's a

01:44:30.800 lawyer also and she's like really made a success out of herself but really all she wants to do is

01:44:35.600 like not really because she doesn't say it because like the thing to say is to be a feminist and like

01:44:40.240 have a job and a career but all she really wants to do is be a wife and mother like it's kind of

01:44:43.520 obvious through the series it gets to the point where where jimmy the lawyer becomes so morally

01:44:48.880 corrupt that he gets involved with this this you know this guy who's selling meth and he helps him

01:44:53.520 sell even more meth and um a friend of theirs dies and kim gets this point where she's like i love

01:44:59.360 you but i'm leaving and so she like goes to another state and doesn't support anything but

01:45:05.440 then when jimmy goes to prison and gets out is in prison she goes and visits him and she's like the

01:45:10.160 person that stays with him through this time because now that he's like in his time of recovery

01:45:14.560 she's there and she's going to be the one sticks by him whereas when walter was in his hard moment

01:45:18.960 his wife turned on him and left him but jimmy's woman actually stayed with him throughout the

01:45:23.840 whole whole thing and i think it's it's two really good examples for modern men of a woman who like

01:45:30.400 isn't going to stick with you through thick and thin but she still wants you to abide by society's

01:45:34.240 rules and the woman who who kind of wants you to abide by society's rules but she really wants you

01:45:39.680 just actually to do what's right by your neighbor and if you don't do what's right well then she's

01:45:43.760 going to separate from you like this both couples were legally married like she's going to separate

01:45:48.720 from you but then once you go back to doing what's right she's going to come back she's going to be

01:45:52.320 there for you okay and i just thought it was a really beautiful example of like two different

01:45:57.680 couples that were middle class normal american couples yeah um sorry the cynic in me i think that

01:46:05.360 the women would be more interested when they found out their husband's selling meth and the reason is

01:46:11.760 because i see what happens with luigi's shooter yeah you know the women have him on like t-shirts

01:46:18.640 now and they're saying like yeah it's kind of weird yeah you know i think it depends on the

01:46:23.520 age group um maybe middle class women would be horrified if their husbands were selling meth

01:46:28.400 maybe well the way i would actually analyze that is when women women go for security and they go

01:46:36.000 for excitement right so that's why when we go for you know the celebrities the like drug dealers

01:46:43.120 in this case and then women go for the safe guy and i think when women think they have the safe

01:46:49.600 guy and he starts doing the exciting guy things that like it then they get mad they leave you

01:46:56.800 know okay that actually could also be a fair analysis of that thing because sky was definitely

01:47:03.040 into walter because of him being safe whereas jimmy uh kim liked jimmy because he was exciting

01:47:08.480 but then she realized that it was not actually good for either of them and it was like kind of

01:47:12.380 a bad thing yeah it was speaking without a narrative how to talk about i can't say women

01:47:18.900 are i can't say that on youtube um there's certain i can't make certain generalities about

01:47:25.440 about women on youtube but i'll i'll try to let people read both between the lines without saying

01:47:31.800 it how to talk about women being um live backwards in a way as to promote goodness in women

01:47:42.500 okay so you're essentially saying that i need to say it in a different way well i guess it just

01:47:51.140 depends on your point if your point is to promote it seems like your your audience is mostly men

01:47:56.780 whereas my audience is mostly women so when i might like if you're going to have a narrative

01:48:02.060 i guess like your narrative needs to promote something or another like my narrative is to

01:48:06.860 promote um more goodness and women and more loyalty and more submission and more beauty

01:48:12.540 so therefore i might talk about how like women are inclined to do all these bad things but let's not

01:48:17.980 do those bad things and this is how we can't we get away from doing those bad things whereas it

01:48:22.860 it seems like you're mostly talking to men. So maybe, maybe you make it clear that if women get

01:48:29.280 mad at you, you're like, well, I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to men. If you don't want to be

01:48:31.920 the statistic, don't be the statistic kind of thing. Yeah. Well, the, the thing is, it sounds

01:48:36.720 like you're in like a coaching type of business. You might coach women. I don't know what I do.

01:48:41.680 I just have a sub stack and I write articles about like why, why men find dresses more attractive

01:48:47.620 in jeans and why um uh it's good to be more like i just like write basically from the bible from

01:48:55.460 scripture and from tradition why these things are good for one to do and how it can create

01:49:00.020 a better spirit in us and all these different things yeah i don't think yeah well it sounds

01:49:04.180 like maybe it's like religious content or it's like it sounds like it's um like if i was to read

01:49:10.260 your article i would say oh maybe i'm wearing jeans today oh maybe i'll wear a dress right

01:49:14.820 that would be like the the end game of it right to improve women yeah not so simplified as that

01:49:22.100 i mean i do employ a lot of generalities too which i get a lot of hate for too but it's uh

01:49:27.300 it's a little bit more nuanced than that i'm not going to say that a woman who's wearing jeans

01:49:30.580 isn't a real woman i might sometimes say that like maybe if a woman wants to be feminine and

01:49:35.940 i guess one thing i get a lot of hate for especially recently is i'll be like conservative

01:49:40.580 women why do you hate it when men wear dresses when you wear jeans like isn't that hypocritical

01:49:46.740 i do wear jeans but that's a very good comeback like hating people for something that we're doing

01:49:52.900 ourselves it's all cross-dressed so i'm not going to allow my sons to wear dresses i'm also not going

01:49:57.140 to allow my daughters to wear jeans and like this be consistent in our ideology and not just hate

01:50:01.220 people for no reason whatsoever yeah totally but um so i do think there's self-improvement niches

01:50:09.220 and but that's just a different niche like when i do my show i'm trying to predict trends say

01:50:14.580 where this is going and point out gynocentrism so i'm pointing out like the worship of women

01:50:21.060 like so that's really my point is just to point out where it's going i think self-improvement like

01:50:28.340 i would never tell men how to date women for example or where to because i've never i don't

01:50:34.500 date women that's not my niche you know so you're it's just a different niche right yeah i think

01:50:41.540 that's fair to distinguish from like i specifically speak to teenage girls like i i enter interact

01:50:47.380 with teenage girls and email them and basically like when i was a teenage girl i wanted someone

01:50:51.780 as a role model that wasn't the first that had a had a happy marriage that like dress in a way

01:50:56.740 that i thought was beautiful not just lovingly you know and so basically i'm trying to be for

01:51:01.140 teenage girls what i wanted as a teenage girl and i'm encouraging other women to also be for younger

01:51:05.780 women what they wish that they had as a role model when they were younger yeah yeah and i don't think

01:51:10.340 there's anything wrong with that you know i have um i'm a very good friend her name's like maggie

01:51:15.220 and she does something she does femininity content and it's really great and i i like have gone to a

01:51:20.340 couple of her events that's just not um i'm just not in that niche i wouldn't feel um i guess like

01:51:27.940 I just wouldn't that wouldn't really be what I would do like I think there's better women like

01:51:32.260 other women can learn from I wouldn't really point to me does that make sense yeah yeah I'm like you

01:51:37.300 guys yeah there's better women um women need and I don't mean that as a dig at myself I just mean

01:51:44.180 I think there's like better role models that can do that um just know your vocation yeah

01:51:51.220 women without a narrative oh women need men men also need women this can be beautiful if we make

01:51:56.980 it a dance instead of a war we learn to submit so it's a gift instead of a kink so

01:52:06.820 i don't think men need women i really don't um i think that it can be helpful to them so i'll

01:52:16.740 say elon musk as an example i think that regardless of if he had women he was going to build rockets

01:52:23.620 and just do really awesome things even if he never gets married forever trump's been married

01:52:29.300 three times i think it's been great for him to like that he met i love melania i think she's

01:52:35.620 amazing i'm like a big fan but i i think that successful men that are on a mission are going

01:52:42.420 to do it regardless of if we're there and a lot of times what i see is women take the credit for

01:52:48.740 their husband's success when i think that he was going to do that anyway and you can either be

01:52:54.660 you can be an asset and the women that are assets the men have no problem saying how awesome you

01:53:01.060 were but i think if like women were really known for being assets then men would be signed lining

01:53:08.180 up to get married and they're just not you know yeah so i disagree with this for i think three

01:53:13.700 reasons and i think it's all based on whether or not like you accept religion and christianity but

01:53:18.340 the first one is like like i believe that god created adam and that adam was like you know the

01:53:23.460 ruler of the earth and of creatures and the steward of the trees and the animals and all that

01:53:28.580 but he was lonely and he was incomplete without a help meet therefore god made him a woman he

01:53:32.980 needed a woman if adam hadn't had a woman adam would not have been quite as fulfilled in the

01:53:40.420 same way of course you know there's the whole like story of the fall whatever but then we go further

01:53:45.860 to the proverbs 31 woman which is the ideal woman she's not ideal because of all these

01:53:52.340 reasons the main reason she's ideal is because of what she does quietly and behind the stage

01:53:58.180 her husband receives glory for it and i think a lot of women mix this up they think oh well

01:54:02.980 because i'm behind my husband i'm receiving the glory through him no you're not receiving the

01:54:07.300 glory through him your husband receives glory because you're setting the stage for him and i

01:54:12.340 And I would go further to say that men like Elon Musk and Donald Trump, while they are receiving glory and we don't see the woman behind them,

01:54:19.840 I would say there are women behind them that we don't see.

01:54:22.320 And those women are doing their jobs very well because we don't see them.

01:54:25.340 If you see a woman and she's receiving as much glory or more glory than her husband, she's doing her job incorrectly.

01:54:31.840 And you see a man who is getting a lot of glory.

01:54:34.480 I assume usually there's a woman behind him and she's doing her job correctly.

01:54:38.340 so i'm more look to the i'm not um overly religious so you know um i do believe in god

01:54:47.220 but i'm i wouldn't i'm not a bible scholar you know i don't argue religion um but i would more

01:54:54.480 look for it's better for a man to be alone than with a quarrelsome wife and yeah if i statistically

01:55:00.920 look at the market right now we're looking at women that have been on social media from the

01:55:05.460 time they're 12 on average they have 35,000 dollars in debt you know this sounds nice but

01:55:11.380 if we go through the numbers so they're irresponsible they're irresponsible with money

01:55:17.000 right they're overweight the average woman gains like 20 pounds in the first five years of marriage

01:55:23.340 and we're already overweight so it's um I just think that and the general perception of men

01:55:32.200 is saying that women are not easy to date or get along with I think in 20 maybe back then

01:55:38.180 they were helpful in 2024 I see more women destroy men than I see actually support them for a

01:55:47.900 lifetime yeah I think that one's more common than the other maybe it's the maybe we're in end times

01:55:56.080 i don't know but you know i just i can't um i i can't not see what's right in front of me because

01:56:04.640 i want to you know like the religion like that sounds nicer what you said but i just have to be

01:56:11.120 honest with what i would predict yeah i think that's a very fair um distinction and you are

01:56:17.520 right that the majority of the proverbs scattered throughout the problems are oh it's worse to work

01:56:22.880 like a like a quarrelsome wife or a nagging wife is worse than a dripping faucet or it's worse than

01:56:28.240 being alone like that's a dripping faucet that's funny it's not like yeah it's dripping faucet like

01:56:34.720 it's worse than a dripping faucet like a woman nagging it's like a dripping faucet like that's

01:56:38.600 horrible and you keep hearing this throughout like the first 30 chapters of the proverbs and

01:56:43.120 you don't actually get a picture of what the perfect woman is until the last chapter first

01:56:47.400 you're like watch out for this woman watch out for this woman like these are all the women you

01:56:51.520 be watching out for there's a lot of bad women to be watching out for but the ideal woman she's like

01:56:57.360 making sure that your home is a place of industry and is beautiful and things are being produced and

01:57:02.800 things are happening and in fact she's so she's so resourceful and so industrious and so reliable

01:57:09.440 that you can sit at the city gates and gossip and gab and smoke with your friends and you don't have

01:57:13.760 to worry about what she's doing back at home because she's taking care of everything and she's

01:57:16.960 doing it so well that while you're sitting there at the gates that gabbing with your friends

01:57:21.120 they're giving you glory because your wife is like not bringing any shame to your home

01:57:24.960 like that is what the ideal woman does and unfortunately we don't see that very much in

01:57:28.800 society but and women also hate the image of the problem 31 women i think because they want to

01:57:33.920 justify their gabbing and they're nagging and they're like you know quarreling like women want

01:57:38.400 to justify all that but at the end of the day like it's very clear that the ideal woman is someone who

01:57:43.680 is setting the stage setting the home making everything comfortable and cozy making sure that

01:57:48.720 her husband feels supported and loved all the time and not not in a way just for bribing and

01:57:54.160 forgetting what she wants and so she can have access to credit cards etc etc the funny thing

01:57:58.640 is my husband actually just posted something on twitter i want to say like two days ago or so

01:58:04.000 basically he was just bragging about me and he was saying how like oh you need to find a woman who's

01:58:08.880 like going to stick with you for thick and thick and thin and like here's some like litmus test

01:58:13.280 things like is she willing to eat roadkill with you is she willing to embrace poverty with you

01:58:17.680 is she willing to like you know deny worldly success and wealth and is she like willing to

01:58:22.480 do all these things and people got so mad and they're like it's okay for me to want to be a

01:58:26.320 princess if i want to be taken care of like he wasn't saying that he makes me suffer my husband

01:58:29.520 does not make me suffer but he knows at the end of the day that like if we go through anything hard

01:58:34.400 i'm not going to leave and be like oh well you're not making enough money so like this is over

01:58:38.240 like that's like yeah and and the challenge um the challenge is we don't actually know that

01:58:45.440 at this point and i don't mean i i'm gonna like i want to give you every benefit of the doubt

01:58:50.160 and you seem very nice i don't think you would but we can't even even his list we can't even

01:58:56.240 know right now if it's right because you guys have been married two years about a year and

01:59:02.400 and of course i've done all these things before him because my family grew up eating roadkill and

01:59:06.240 stuff so that's why he uses that as an example but i'm sure many men would love to date a near

01:59:10.480 amish woman like guys in the chat would you near amish i mean they you know but it's just not

01:59:19.200 sorry go ahead for three years so i was almost almost for three years yeah but that's just not

01:59:25.280 the norm and that's not like most men can't really expect that um yeah and just like anecdotally um

01:59:33.440 um I could maybe think of like a couple women that fit the description I just don't think it's

01:59:39.320 really the norm you know yeah I guess I got to come back on when I'm 35 and then when I'm 60

01:59:44.480 and then yeah that's the that's the well the problem is we look at the divorce rate of people

01:59:49.900 that are 60 and it's just it's pretty high it's actually really sad we just met this uh and I hate

01:59:56.040 to be validating your points but we just met this man in um Madawaska Maine oh he was the most

02:00:01.720 sweetest man we'd ever met and he was like what 90 years old and he'd been married to his wife

02:00:07.800 who they had 10 children together and they've been married forever and he decided it was time

02:00:13.000 for him to retire because he'd been working for his entire life with his factory and his wife

02:00:18.280 wasn't ready for him to retire and she's like if you retire i'm going to divorce you and he's like

02:00:21.960 oh you gotta be kidding i'm retiring i'm done working because he was past retirement age yeah

02:00:25.800 he might have me i remember how old he was but he was definitely way past 60 he was like in his 70s

02:00:29.800 or eighties she fell for divorce and he lost everything at like that far into his marriage

02:00:37.180 and that is really really tragic like i mean stories like that i feel like maybe it's your

02:00:43.180 job to predict them and it's my job to like speak out against them because like that's just like

02:00:47.780 not right and i don't i don't think there's any way to justify that and there's you can't stop it

02:00:52.980 either i probably yeah when when a woman wants to divorce there's nothing the government

02:00:59.460 unfortunately there's just you know let's just say and you guys have your kids you have an

02:01:04.260 amazing family in 10 years you want a divorce um uh the government will assist you the police will

02:01:11.860 assist you the media even like if you get shunned from your community it's pretty easy for women to

02:01:18.100 restart in a new city download a dating app marry a guy new community you know yeah it's have you

02:01:24.740 ever watched the movie fireproof it's actually one of the um only movies i've ever seen that

02:01:30.580 is against this whole idea of a woman filing for divorce and a man trying to like be against uh

02:01:35.700 like fight for his marriage i don't think so it's by a christian public actually the guy who plays

02:01:42.900 in is cameron kirk i think he's known for like left behind movies i don't know if you've heard of that

02:01:48.100 yeah but um what was that i said yeah okay i'm looking i've never seen it but i've just looked

02:01:53.620 it up on the screen might be interesting your research because it actually became really

02:01:58.100 popular for a while it the plot of the movie is this woman decides she's fed up with her husband

02:02:03.460 and she's gonna divorce him and she has like maybe legit reasons because he's addicted to

02:02:07.780 porn or whatever but she's decided she's had enough and she's calling for divorce and the

02:02:11.620 man's like oh no i want to save my marriage so he heals like he quits his porn addiction

02:02:16.900 and he starts going to church and he starts doing all these things and he starts trying to get his

02:02:20.500 wife to fall back in love with him and she just like won't and so he like writes this whole like

02:02:26.660 love love your wife no matter how she reacts and 40 days of like falling back in love with his

02:02:32.420 wife kind of thing and by the end i won't get the plot away but it's basically just it's just

02:02:36.660 a movie that's encouraging people to like try to keep their marriages and make their marriages

02:02:41.460 fireproof. Yeah, that sounds like a recipe for disaster. Sorry, I'm just listening to it.

02:02:49.980 Now, when women want to leave, they're done. And you're going to put yourself through hell if you

02:02:54.620 try to make her happy and she's not. That's my opinion on it. And the other challenge is in the

02:03:01.260 Christian communities. They always blame the lack of, they always blame men's corn addiction. But

02:03:08.740 what they don't talk about is a lot of the women don't sleep with their husbands and i know this

02:03:13.660 because i interviewed only fans workers and their customer base is white married men

02:03:18.780 so i like christian married like that's who they market to sadly that's why they keep that's why

02:03:25.080 they keep doing this of to christian grift is because it's just like it's the same unfortunately

02:03:30.660 it's the same guys buying it um so i i don't think i would i'll watch the movie if you want

02:03:36.320 but i might roast it i might i'll do a show on it i think you might roast a little bit because

02:03:40.800 you're kind of right like it does kind of make it initially the guy's fault even though they do say

02:03:44.500 that it's both people's fault they never acknowledge that maybe she's also like not

02:03:49.280 doing something right because a lot of places aren't going to be like oh well she's not sleeping

02:03:53.340 with him they're never going to talk about that so yeah yeah or i mean like men don't really want

02:03:59.300 you to do it if you don't want to either so that's like what do you you know like what it's kind of

02:04:05.740 yeah so well i think that's all your points um i really enjoyed this conversation do you have

02:04:13.980 anything else this is good i think the only other thing that i disagree with you online

02:04:18.860 and it's completely a non-sequitur but like sometimes you'll post about like how women

02:04:24.540 shouldn't be posting pictures of their children online and i actually strongly disagree with that

02:04:28.360 i actually wrote a whole article about why i think it's good and why i think it's a fierce

02:04:33.220 psyop to not post pictures of your kids and how i think it's this like this thing that's like trying

02:04:37.700 to make the whole online world into this place of consent and everyone's a pedophile and all these

02:04:42.740 like scary dangerous things when in reality like having pictures of children inspires people to

02:04:48.100 have children and seeing other people like a lot of people never even going to be around children

02:04:52.580 or if they do see children in public parents like oh stay away from my cake because you might be

02:04:56.660 creepy like i think that's a really unhealthy mentality but we should just be like like having

02:05:01.540 pictures of somalian children online is like a really beautiful thing my dad because i'm also

02:05:05.940 12 kids and my dad was a political activist he used to share pictures of our whole family and

02:05:10.820 first off it validated that he was like a family man and that all of our kids smiles were like

02:05:15.700 kind of made people like oh yeah he's not a bad man look at all of his kids smiling

02:05:18.980 and it made people realize that he was in this because of his heart and not for like money or

02:05:23.620 anything he never made money off of his work but people wouldn't you say you're using your kids to

02:05:28.820 boost your reputation no i don't think that's it at all i think that a father when he's prideful

02:05:34.980 and like proud proud of his family he's going to look at my family it doesn't necessarily

02:05:41.060 boost his reputation it does add glory to his reputation in a good and healthy way

02:05:45.460 like i do think people use it in maybe a wrong way to boost their reputation sometimes but i think

02:05:50.260 like occasionally posting a picture of your child out of like oh i'm i love my child my beautiful

02:05:55.300 child's smile is like a good and healthy thing and innocent. Do you think that kids have a right

02:06:00.620 to privacy growing up? I think that this whole idea that children have like separate rights

02:06:07.620 of their own is kind of bizarre, I guess. I think that children under a certain age are under the

02:06:16.440 stewardship of their parents. The parent decides that they are educated and how they're educated.

02:06:21.220 At least in America, because I was homeschooled, so I didn't go to public school. My parents made

02:06:24.920 decision whether i was public schooled or homeschooled it wasn't my right to decide that

02:06:27.800 for myself um it was my parents right to decide whether or not i did my chores or not it wasn't

02:06:32.920 my right to be like oh you know what i think i don't feel like doing my chores today it's like

02:06:36.040 nope i don't have those types of rights but this idea that oh a child has all these all these rights

02:06:41.400 puts it to like this lawyer my husband called like this lawyer's fantasy playground where everything

02:06:47.240 is the terms of consent or not consent that's just not how it works in real life like we just

02:06:51.640 yeah but and we we do agree that kids have some rights like they have the right to not be abused

02:06:57.240 for example they have the you know the right to have like if you can't take care of your kid

02:07:03.160 you know my family we adopted three kids um that like their parents just couldn't take care of them

02:07:09.160 for whatever reason so i i disagree with you that kids don't i think there is a baseline of rights

02:07:15.880 yeah which applies to all human beings when we go to twitter for example you know there's

02:07:20.920 porn on twitter right they're like there's literal like porn so i just don't think it's overly wise

02:07:30.920 to post your young children on an a site that there's porn on you know if it's one thing it's

02:07:36.840 for your friends and family i think that's different like a private facebook but i just start

02:07:43.080 to see these trends of women sharing every intimate detail of their kids life and i just

02:07:49.480 think that's wrong yeah and actually in my essay because i wrote a whole essay on this for mary

02:07:54.680 harrington substack and what i covered was that like there are certain things that are actually

02:08:00.280 dangerous to share about your child like they're your child's favorite teddy bear or your child's

02:08:04.360 medical conditions or these different things about your child because if a predator is going to come

02:08:08.360 up to your child he's going to look for what school does your child go to what what things

02:08:13.000 does your child carry you know as like a thing what like what what kind of um medical issues

02:08:17.960 that your child suffer with and that's how your predator is actually going to get to your child

02:08:21.800 but sharing a picture and having that picture like corrupted by a predator is actually extremely

02:08:26.040 unlikely and there's no statistics that i could find actually back up with actually that actually

02:08:30.360 endangers your child the picture itself so yeah i guess because my question is what's more important

02:08:36.760 their privacy or clout and and to me like if you're constantly posting your on your kids

02:08:44.600 i think you're communicating to me that clout's more important which is fine i i don't think that

02:08:50.520 every person that posts online their kids is gonna you know be taken or whatever but you know you see

02:08:59.480 them post their kids and they're bookmarked well what do people use bookmarks for yeah you know it

02:09:05.400 is very funny my uh my husband's mother is a school teacher and she showed everyone a picture

02:09:10.760 i don't know if it's digital or not of andy and i we were when we first got engaged and her one of

02:09:15.320 her students like copied that picture of us engaged and that keeps it on her like her her

02:09:20.440 school desk because she thinks it's like was like a romantic picture so like i think there's like

02:09:24.120 lots of reasons that people bookmark maybe they think it's like cute or romantic they could have

02:09:28.680 bad reasons too but not i mean even today like um this girl didn't even post a picture of her

02:09:34.760 daughter but i covered a story you know men are saying they're gonna rate like men are saying

02:09:40.120 they'll rape her daughter who's 14 and they're like doing jokes about it or threaten it whatever

02:09:46.760 and you know and and you know i'm like well what did you expect it's twitter you know i think it's

02:09:54.040 wrong but i'm like you're responsible yeah and if you're as a parent and you want to say okay

02:10:00.120 if something bad happens and take responsibility fine but yeah you know i just think it's it's what

02:10:06.280 you're communicating from my perspective you're communicating to the world that the cloud is more

02:10:11.880 important than your kids privacy yeah i guess i i think it's not quite that to comment because like

02:10:19.880 i'm sorry i don't mean keep on talking that's okay you're fine you're fine totally fine i think that

02:10:26.440 everyone who's on the internet not necessarily because it's not all about clout but like we all

02:10:31.000 kind of probably care about clout just a little teeny bit more than we should so you can't really

02:10:35.720 separate it from that necessarily though maybe not everyone's thinking about clout when they

02:10:39.640 post a picture of their kid but also like the whole idea of privacy i'm not super into either

02:10:44.480 like i don't think that we're meant to be private individuals but community end of it like

02:10:48.480 in the community and so this whole idea that we even have a right to privacy as

02:10:53.060 like we have rights to basic decency and to like not have like personal details all over the

02:10:58.160 internet whether we're an adult or a child but overall i don't really believe in like privacy

02:11:04.240 to such the extent that most people like idolize it if that makes sense yeah and i understand that

02:11:10.440 perspective i mean it's just mine uh kids are under five you know i think at a certain age

02:11:17.260 they'll make their own social media accounts so okay but under five i just i think what's why

02:11:23.600 yeah yeah i guess yeah i think it's also good to just respect people's differences on this yeah

02:11:30.460 yeah i mean but um thank you very much for coming on i very much enjoyed this um i've i i there's a

02:11:38.600 lot of people that talk um and i don't know i don't think you have but i've seen a lot of people

02:11:43.960 trash talk me on twitter they never accept my invite to come on so very you know very bold of

02:11:49.760 you to do it most people won't i try to trash talk anyone on twitter because i don't feel like

02:11:55.620 we can know someone from Twitter alone. Yeah. Well, do you want to tell them where they can

02:12:00.020 find you? Follow you on Instagram? Yeah. On Twitter and Instagram, both it's Keturah Abigail. That's

02:12:06.180 K-E-T-U-R-A-H and Abigail, like typically how Abigail is spelled. And then my substack is

02:12:12.900 called Polite Company and it's at livingroomconversations.substack.com. Okay. Well,

02:12:20.020 thank you very much. Guys, I'll give you a round of applause. Yeah. Thank you. This was very fun.

02:12:25.340 i really enjoyed it i did too have a good one yeah you too thank you they said wow colts are

02:12:31.300 following pearl guys i don't think she's actually in a cult i think it's um all right let me read

02:12:38.060 the comments that all right so as you guys know if you guys want to have your comment read you

02:12:45.100 go to the audacitynetwork.com 10 bucks a month 80 bucks a year and um

02:12:50.640 unlimited comments i read sometimes you know if nothing crazy you know within reason but

02:13:01.100 um let me read the responses today all right this site should have a live menu item at the top you

02:13:10.240 know i'm meeting with the website people tomorrow so if you guys have changes that you want you know

02:13:16.060 I will let them know. Michael is the smartest kid in the class. Caesar says the Daily Wire often

02:13:22.200 gather to smoke cigars on sets while a real man like Andrew Wilson chain smokes cigars in his

02:13:28.740 house. Respect. Despite the prop of cigars I have in front of him, I highly doubt Noel smokes them

02:13:35.100 in his own house because of his wife. If he knew the new paradigm, if he's the new paradigm for

02:13:39.920 manhood we're doomed um get that bag girl then go tom don't i'm not reading that okay craig

02:13:51.540 looking good in black pearl um your comp the choice is the simp or then choose divorce give

02:13:57.700 her everything and lose it all um she has no jobe she has no idea what she is talking about we are

02:14:05.040 as good as the freedom we are given excellent marriage advice does not work the laws need to

02:14:09.320 change stop the incentive the rest follows rebel I totally disagree with her that men struggle with

02:14:14.540 pride more than women I think that's completely off I agree but hey you know we have a difference

02:14:19.520 of opinion um Pearl when are you getting married to your young man should I ask him should I should

02:14:27.640 I send it should I ask okay um she is showing off oh yeah all these preachings you have every choice

02:14:34.940 is an opportunity to do what is right or wrong no matter how big the choice is um

02:14:41.500 no no joe be the moment she starts talking about christianity you need to bring andrew wilson into

02:14:46.860 the debate yeah guys i don't i don't like to argue religion because i just don't have um

02:14:54.300 the theological foundation that a lot of a lot of these people have been studying for years it's

02:14:59.820 just not you know i i believe in god but it's just not i'm not arguing religion okay if you don't

02:15:07.900 find the right good woman alone is better um the not to be means that those who get more and more

02:15:14.140 even more broadly look at anything we are suffering with now everything started off benign and then

02:15:19.580 became out with the fall the easiest thing to do is to make the internet for adults only

02:15:24.460 they said pearl's talking like a robot okay all right i need these i need you guys be nice all

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Pearl - December 17, 2024

Confronting One Of My Haters ｜ Pearl Daily

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