Pearl - Dating Apps Are Dead (Call-in Show)

00:00:00.000 what up guys welcome to another episode of pearl daily i am your host pearl and on this show i

00:00:05.320 talk about observations that i learned from interviewing a thousand women in the course

00:00:10.300 of a year and a half so as you guys know i moved to england and i was there to play semi-pro

00:00:15.920 volleyball on the side i decided to start a youtube show this youtube show skyrocketed

00:00:20.980 it became one of the biggest channels in the united states it got a billion views

00:00:25.320 only to get demonetized because of some crazy ladies that's that's what i'll say when a woman

00:00:31.340 wants to destroy your life they'll really do it yeah that's why you just gotta let them win you

00:00:35.720 guys win you win anyways guys um if you want to support me so i can be youtube free please go to

00:00:41.720 the audacity network.com i did get recently re-monetized but every day we have no idea um

00:00:47.840 if that's going to stay that way also we are going to be film content behind the paywall we've already

00:00:54.100 given two presentations um one being how to be a youtuber and two how to excel in government work if

00:01:03.840 you want to go into that industry so every week we are going to be doing presentations on that sort of

00:01:09.160 thing there is a slight change to the schedule we are going to be doing um we are going to be doing

00:01:17.300 call-in shows monday wednesday and friday so i have to get back to you guys on how this is going to

00:01:23.880 affect the um extra presentation schedule but we're no longer doing shows five days a week we're

00:01:29.960 doing it three and the reason being is i really like doing call-in shows with you guys but i do

00:01:35.160 not have the social bandwidth to do it five days a week so we're going to do it three right now um

00:01:40.400 this could change in the future but that's what we're doing right now so um today we are talking

00:01:46.800 about dating apps so according to stats 46.4 percent of americans say that they are single

00:01:54.740 single meaning that they are not married living with a partner or in a committed relationship

00:01:59.580 that means almost half of the people you see are in the current dating market we all know

00:02:05.840 the dating market is trash men have walked away modern women are single mothers and whores

00:02:11.020 and it's just a bunch of chaos despite that people will continue to meet and date what is the number

00:02:17.680 one way that couples meet online dating in 2022 50 of couples surveyed said they met online after

00:02:25.200 2022 the number of people using dating apps has slowly declined there are more and more reports of

00:02:31.300 adults being burnt out on dating apps adults 30 and under are actively finding new ways to meet and

00:02:38.380 date outside of the apps so there's an article here about how are dating apps dying out

00:02:46.060 are dating oh wait hold on unlike a man's height and his dating app profile okay you know it's always

00:02:55.800 the men's height that they go for not the women's catfish like i mean yeah the men lie about their

00:03:02.520 height but we filter them out based on it the men it's like the women will be 50 pounds heavier and

00:03:10.320 put the face tune on and just snatch the waist it's so crazy because it's really a common talking point

00:03:16.880 to talk about men's height and i get that but what about women's catfishing like it's it's you know

00:03:24.840 the women catfishing is 10 times worse it's it's a hundred million times worse and more prevalent and more

00:03:31.840 common yet the men get all of the credit for this okay after the figures and the figures aren't

00:03:38.900 looking too good for dating app companies as users get fed up with swiping tinder's base pay shrunk to

00:03:45.000 nine percent why year over year in 2024 just shy of 10 million match group which owns tinder saw other

00:03:52.780 investments dip as well archer and chispa apps for lgbtq and latino daters respectively saw revenue dips

00:04:01.260 four percent in 2023 bumble missed bumble missed analyst expectations with its q4 2023 earnings

00:04:11.160 sending its stock spiraling down 30 and leading to layoffs of 30 of the workforce match group and bumble

00:04:19.260 which make up the majority of the dating market have lost a combined 40 billion dollars in the dating

00:04:24.320 market since 2021 it's not just that users don't want to pay for a premium for special swipes they're

00:04:32.280 also having a straight up bad time almost half of online daters and more than half of women daters say

00:04:37.960 their experiences have been negative according to peer research center survey compared to trillion dollar

00:04:45.440 tech giants even the biggest billion dollar billion even the biggest dating companies are somewhat small

00:04:52.640 match group reported a 3.4 billion in total revenue in 2023 and to stay above water dating companies are

00:05:00.160 relying on pricey subscription models which has led to increased dissatisfaction from users while dating app

00:05:07.040 users spend an average of 19 a month the charges can get even steeper tinder released a 500 monthly

00:05:13.300 subscription in 2023 and hinge launched a 600 annual membership with users being priced out of bearable

00:05:21.420 dating experiences many are turned to less traditional platforms like linkedin people are going to do a

00:05:27.500 lingo to find love that's hilarious makes sense to us if you're going to pay a monthly fee you might as

00:05:34.500 well learn spanish too i want to know how that's going so you guys are you guys are are learning spanish and

00:05:41.300 what dating the instructors if that's true a lot of men are going to sign up to be spanish instructors

00:05:46.640 i'll tell you why they're like how did we get a surge in these okay um why dating apps are dying

00:05:54.120 all right we're going to do this next article it's called why dating apps are dying and by the way guys

00:05:59.440 later in the show we are going to call in and if you have if you're actively dating i want to know where

00:06:05.040 you're meeting people where are people going have you just bowed out have you stopped dating

00:06:09.660 um or have you gone somewhere else have the apps been working for you have they not been working

00:06:16.140 for you call in and share your experience um we are going to put a link in the chat um we can probably

00:06:23.620 do that now but we're not going to bring you guys up for like a little bit so i'm going to read

00:06:28.240 these articles and then in like 10-15 minutes so if you want to be first feel free okay stop locking

00:06:35.280 up the hotties why dating apps are dying the number of users paying to access better matches on dating

00:06:40.640 apps is failing why it's simple singles are tired but may but maybe there's a better way 30 minutes

00:06:47.200 before my interviews with the founder and boss of dating app hinge is due to start an email lands in

00:06:53.360 my inbox he needs to reschedule due to a personal conflict as anyone who has spent time on dating

00:06:58.780 apps in the last few years would know this is deeply on brand we're meant to be talking about

00:07:03.960 dating app burnout and disappointment is undeniably the number one cause of millennial malice and by the

00:07:10.720 way guys we all know what's going on on the dating app so women are we're going for a smaller and

00:07:16.520 smaller percentage of men because we think we're hotter than we are right so this leaves to women being

00:07:22.220 dissatisfied because we keep getting ghosted pumped and dumped and we're like i can't find a good man

00:07:28.360 well you shot too high the men know when they shoot too high like if a guy's a six and he's banging an

00:07:34.660 eight he's like she's gonna cheat and leave me soon but i'm gonna enjoy the experience right

00:07:39.380 women we can't do that we can't just like enjoy we're like look i'm gonna enjoy this as long as it

00:07:45.800 happens we start to feel entitled um you know and that'll happen to men you know they bang someone a

00:07:51.640 little out of their league and then they know it's only gonna last a little bit and then they're

00:07:56.800 gonna move on okay but as the amiable justin mcleod who started hinge in 2012 says when we managed

00:08:06.520 to meet over zoom this week his app is on a mission to end cynicism the kentuckian has got his work cut

00:08:14.620 out for him dating apps are hemorrhaging users with downloads sliding from a 2019 peak of 287.4 million

00:08:22.760 users to 237 million according to the business of dating apps and app industry analysts over the last

00:08:30.540 year bumble's share price has fallen 45 percent and match which owns hinge tinder and e-harmony among

00:08:36.700 others is down 82 percent on october of 2021 high it is set it has to be said that amid all of this

00:08:44.580 hinge is a rare bright spot in the last year on this app which markets itself as the place for those

00:08:50.280 seeking relationships not hookups has grown yeah okay come on yeah like like women are really holding

00:08:58.000 out for chad come on like let me get this straight when chad tries to smash first or second date the

00:09:04.400 women are like oh no no i come on but we all okay whatever all right users by 21 percent and the amount

00:09:13.940 they pay by 12 percent up 30.26 annually it reached an all-time high in downloads in the third quarter of

00:09:22.300 2024 in its marketing hinge calls itself the app designed to be deleted yeah okay and it should say

00:09:30.500 the app designed to be deleted for now till after the divorce till after the kid till after the placeholder

00:09:40.360 boyfriend also if you guys do have a question comment or concern make sure you put pearl read um

00:09:48.000 in the like comment section on my website or if you do a super chat i will read it okay

00:09:54.840 all right but say psychologists okay i guess we're having issues on the websites

00:10:07.160 can they not hear me or what

00:10:10.800 is it just no volume frozen on my end

00:10:21.880 okay

00:10:25.680 guys while we're waiting for a second please like the video like and i'll read your comments

00:10:40.820 right now in the chat um i want to wait on the website but if you if you're in the youtube chat

00:10:45.720 right now if you let me know where you've been meeting people i know the volume's fine on youtube

00:10:52.540 but the audacity side i guess we're having issues

00:10:55.240 please no i love i think people in general are through with dating due to how difficult it's gotten

00:11:12.140 yet look the women are through with it because we we're sick of we're like uh chads treat us better

00:11:18.240 but we love it it's like you know what women it's so crazy because

00:11:23.500 it's like here's our two meters right our meter for liking someone as a person

00:11:30.080 and our meter for wanting to have sex with them so it's like the opposite so when we want to have

00:11:35.480 sex with them we hate them as a person right but when we start to like them as a person we don't want

00:11:41.400 to have sex with them so the only way to spice up your relationship is to make your girlfriend

00:11:46.060 hate you as a person a little bit more right what it's like have a week of just saying no to

00:11:52.400 everything that she asks you

00:11:54.600 the women are gonna be so mad at me look but it's true we're like can you do this can you do this for

00:12:03.520 me and then you're like do it yourself bitch let me know how that goes i'm just kidding um so michael

00:12:11.120 said i met people at school and at work well how has that been going i mean that's that you know

00:12:20.320 here's the problem if you meet people in a place where you have mutual friends now the woman can use

00:12:25.160 those friends against you to ruin your reputation we really our way that we get you is through groups

00:12:31.120 you know every time i get a match on a dating app it's either a catfish or a single mother looking

00:12:38.740 for a dad for her kids i'm fit and i'm not and i'm not doing bad financially

00:12:44.560 the doing good things should be rewarded with sex okay then do you know oh okay let me just do make a

00:12:59.180 wish let me just do okay then women women women that are modest right should be rewarded but are we

00:13:08.660 no what and i'm just being honest here what reward do women get for modest you know i know

00:13:14.460 what you guys are thinking you're like what i reward modest women i only date modest women

00:13:19.860 really john that's what you were thinking on the first date you were really thinking wow

00:13:24.920 i'm impressed by the modesty not i'm impressed by her tits and ass come on like let's just let's

00:13:31.600 just be real here the reason the reason women are so naked nowadays is because it gets them more

00:13:36.420 attention everything starts with the male gaze right that's where everything starts you get

00:13:42.020 nothing if you so you guys are like can i just be rewarded for can i be rewarded in in a fallen world

00:13:50.620 right i'm not saying god's kingdom could be different i'm talking about this world right now

00:13:55.820 there are billion there are women that are going to be billionaires on only fans okay that's this world

00:14:02.160 right right so if i said hey women be modest and they're like do i get to make more money

00:14:12.180 probably not you know and so you guys it's like be nice to women and then you guys are like am i

00:14:21.880 gonna get laid and i'm like well probably not these are the it gets bad attention oh

00:14:28.660 okay yeah um now there's a level right but i'm sorry there's too many women

00:14:38.180 that are making a lot of money off of this stuff if women are hot enough men don't really care

00:14:44.300 they can dress modest and put themselves yeah okay we're in 2025 what happens for sex or

00:14:54.920 relationships what does a woman get for chastity now are there some blue-pilled guys

00:15:00.760 that might do the waiting till marriage thing okay now we're up on the website there are but

00:15:08.620 yeah okay let's now what do the women care about the women care about hot guys okay that's let's just

00:15:13.780 be honest here women want leonardo dicaprio they don't care about money anymore they want that's

00:15:20.720 like the ultimate end game is the hot guy so do women get by being chast like being doing the

00:15:27.660 chastity thing are women rewarded for it are women like like if you go into a church are the guys

00:15:35.880 typically hot that are going to reward chat now i'm not saying you should or shouldn't do this right

00:15:41.980 just like i'm not saying you should or shouldn't be a nice guy or a bad boy but you know i'm just

00:15:48.980 trying to explain the incentives everyone's like oh how is this fallen how are women whores and i'm

00:15:55.160 like it's so easy it's so easy to like point out the incentive structure kim kardashian is a billionaire

00:16:03.660 she had a sex tape leaked so is paris hilton but why would women do it it's like now

00:16:12.200 could you argue you could go the marriage route i mean yeah but what the women this is what the

00:16:19.940 women want we want the ultimate amount of freedom so getting to do whatever we want

00:16:24.460 and at the same time having a lot of money and at the same time getting to have sex with hot guys

00:16:31.460 that's why women look up to kim kardashian more than melania trump who gets more of those three things

00:16:38.940 who gets more praise and attention right now i love melania right and she does have a female fan

00:16:47.040 base too but i'm just the same way like are men looking up more to leonardo dicaprio or are they

00:16:54.240 looking up more to um i don't know some who who what's it what's that pastor's name that pastor that

00:17:04.920 man russell brand i guess good guy right tom britt like yeah when it comes to women even though tom

00:17:15.860 brady did the right thing like quote unquote like the religious thing and from a dating point of view

00:17:22.280 they're gonna look up more to leo because that's freaking awesome right from the male lens you get to

00:17:27.660 date a new old the hot 19 year old every year for women it's like kim kardashian is awesome

00:17:33.340 because she gets the ultimate amount of freedom the ultimate amount of male attention

00:17:37.480 and she dates high level men no matter how much sexuality she puts out there she had kins with

00:17:45.240 kanye she dated pete davidson after i mean you could say what you want women like him it's not really um

00:17:51.120 now she's gonna age out right it's it's gonna happen but i just want to explain the incentives here

00:17:59.900 you know kim kardashian has the freedom to divorce like if melania wants to divorce her whole she's

00:18:07.700 kind of cooked right her whole brand is done kim kardashian can divorce and she doesn't even have

00:18:13.260 to worry about being a good person right like the public hates her anyway but she gets a billion

00:18:19.100 dollars she's completely in control of what happens to the billion dollars and on top of that she gets

00:18:25.500 child support of 200k a month and kids from one of the greatest rappers of all time now you might

00:18:31.580 think well kim kardashian can't get doctors she can't get lawyers she can't get classy men do young

00:18:38.660 women now we got to think about what young women want right what old women want doesn't matter like

00:18:45.040 what i want i'm an old lady you know but like the young the 19 year olds because they have the most

00:18:51.360 buying power in the market right it's kind of like the same way we can look at the most i guess you

00:18:56.860 could say hot and clouded men what they pick to see what men really want well the 19 year olds are

00:19:03.560 they thinking i want a doctor and a lawyer so you guys are like you're trying to logic with illogical

00:19:09.120 people right we're an illogical group of people so you're saying well kim kardashian can't get the

00:19:14.920 classy men women don't want classy men they want clouded men unfortunately i don't say this as a good

00:19:20.820 thing the same way like you know men liking big tits you know that can blind a man the same way clout

00:19:28.200 can blind a man for women right so like in the female lens kim kardashian is the ultimate winner

00:19:36.560 now is she's gonna turn into like a madonna right i mean you know men can see the long game

00:19:44.960 but i mean we're gonna die i think the average woman lives to be 75 so kim kard kim k is still

00:19:53.840 thirst trapping out like 45 55 60 so i guess the third that like the last third of her life is gonna

00:20:00.800 blow but even so i bet she could still get in the last you because what you guys think is women age

00:20:07.880 and they kind of do age out but she could still go for like a has-been that's like 30 years older

00:20:15.800 i don't know i'd have to think about more of who she could go for but you guys get the idea

00:20:21.280 she's just gonna have to go for the 80 year olds in her 50s

00:20:24.440 it upset me that um pearl said women are not rewarded for modesty okay well you can be upset

00:20:36.560 but you have to understand you guys are looking at this from a logical point of view you're thinking

00:20:42.420 the modesty is rewarded but like the female lens again we want like and i'm not saying we should

00:20:50.960 want this but i'm saying this is like the female lens women want the most clouded guy possible they

00:20:56.460 want the most freedom possible and they want the most money possible now the married woman isn't

00:21:02.180 going to get the most freedom right so like everyone's like why are women becoming sex workers

00:21:07.960 instead of wives it's so obvious to me because those those three things are what women like ruthlessly go

00:21:14.500 for um why are the kardashians they're not getting necessarily rich guys like

00:21:20.680 they're not going to get the elite like billionaire class but they'll get clouded guys like some

00:21:26.120 rapper will take kim k for a couple years you know what i mean like there's some and that's you know her

00:21:32.640 and you know kylie jenner had a kid by a asap rocky and somehow she's still with one of the most clouded

00:21:42.960 you know now she's going to the white guys you know white men in hollywood

00:21:46.740 not the women i'm interested in pearl

00:21:49.740 well you guys aren't the clouded guys like well and i'm trying to i'm not even trying to say this

00:21:57.320 to be me right but oh young women don't want that have you seen them at concerts

00:22:02.980 yeah okay okay young women want the gangsters the thugs and the rappers well that's going to be

00:22:11.020 dependent so women's bad boy archetype and i'm going to get back into the topic but i'm kind

00:22:16.880 of spitting right now so women's bad boy archetype highly depends on

00:22:22.100 where they're from right so a woman like i'll give you an example

00:22:29.580 ivanka trump's bad boy is it is gonna like okay giselle's bad boy is gonna be the jujitsu

00:22:38.300 instructor right it's gonna be the fighter where a girl that grew up in the hood's bad boy is gonna

00:22:44.140 be a straight-up criminal do you know what i mean like it's gonna be a straight-up a literal criminal

00:22:48.540 where a white suburban girl like for example my vegan activist teacher i know he's like a vegan

00:22:56.560 activist and he did well with the christian you know because he's the liberal vegan activist and

00:23:02.180 these christian women are trying to change him that's their bad boy he did well with them right

00:23:06.620 so like the bad boy isn't necessarily always going to be the same i don't know if that makes

00:23:13.280 that like maybe her bad boy is everyone's a simp around her and you're just the only guy that ever

00:23:18.100 told her no in her life which is very tough for women we don't hear no often i like or ever so

00:23:25.280 it's like you know the guy will be like no you can't have that and she's like i love you forever

00:23:30.480 right it's really highly dependent class dates class yeah but they're still like the least classy

00:23:38.020 guy in that class i know gucci third leg but all the girls he was given herpes to i know disgusting

00:23:45.640 right but they're all like kind of hood or only fans models so like the guy with herpes i guess is

00:23:52.340 gonna be the bad boy i mean that's disgusting but i guess i'd be a nun's bad boy you know yeah that's

00:23:58.640 what i'm saying it's every girl's like bad boy is different and the same guy can be a good guy to

00:24:05.820 one girl i'll give you an example so now the reason tom brady got screwed was he didn't look at giselle's

00:24:12.980 dating history i really care about it and men kind of do that they don't really want to think about it

00:24:17.400 too much it kind of makes you guys want to throw up right i get it but you really got to look at this

00:24:22.780 because tom brady to giselle do you know who giselle dated before tom brady leonardo dicaprio

00:24:30.960 so of course giselle is gonna think that tom brady is like a scrub like she's like i was on the yacht

00:24:39.740 with leo and he was banging me out and i was you know he i heard that leo has sex with women with

00:24:46.920 headphones on like that's like a known rumor that he had he puts his head for like do you know how

00:24:52.560 humbling that asked you think you're a hot 19 year old and this guy bangs you with headphones on like

00:24:57.960 he doesn't care you're never gonna they're gonna love him forever right so anyways giselle obviously

00:25:03.660 has to divorce tom obviously right so but had tom brady just went and got himself he should have went to

00:25:14.680 where does tom brady live he should have went to like boston college or something and found himself

00:25:20.500 a nice little 19 year old because now tom brady is going to be the most exciting thing that 19 year

00:25:27.720 old's ever seen now that's until she meets his teammates and leaves him eventually right but i'm

00:25:33.560 sure that seven years is going to be a very good experience i was actually talking to my friend have a

00:25:39.720 friend and he got um he got tickets to like but like um he got to meet basically all the people at

00:25:47.420 um what is that concert called in the middle of nowhere where it's like what is it everyone i can't

00:25:54.240 imagine how people find it fun but it's like rolling loud or it's going on right now coachella that's it

00:26:00.500 coachella and he got like so he got to meet all the artists and i asked him i'm like did you bring your

00:26:05.260 girlfriend he's like no why would i bring my girlfriend to meet like clouded men that's like

00:26:11.400 a recipe for disaster so maybe if he left her at home and like washed her i don't know

00:26:18.100 he went to the university of michigan yeah that's what i mean like he just he he and you know women

00:26:27.240 like we're in 2025 your girl got banged out by somebody you just got to kind of figure out

00:26:32.600 what type of guys she goes for and are you going to be as like cool because you know if tom brady was

00:26:41.380 just honest with with himself he should have just looked at leo and just left he should have looked

00:26:48.380 at leo like you know another one is hayley bieber i predicted divorce for her and the reason why

00:26:54.060 she dated drake before justin bieber now justin bieber is a world superstar and i do feel bad for

00:26:59.380 these men because i do think they pass these women around like they're so attractive these

00:27:04.040 women get dm'd by everybody but like hayley bieber is in has naked pictures on instagram being married

00:27:11.660 to justin bieber everyone wanted to date him right everybody like when i was in high school he was the guy

00:27:20.560 um so it but she got banged out by drake or allegedly right i mean who knows but allegedly

00:27:30.200 she she was partying with drake she was too close to drake

00:27:34.840 but the bad boy is never the type who jesus wants you to be pearl lol oh yeah like like jesus

00:27:45.020 jesus couldn't even stop these hoes right i mean the garden of eden like it's like the apple is

00:27:54.300 basically being a whore right so eve adam was like you know maybe he shouldn't do that and god was like

00:28:00.400 maybe he shouldn't do that and eve was like nah let's ruin everything for eternity it's a fallen

00:28:07.380 world right like i don't think this world and i'm just being honest guys and i'm gonna do a show on

00:28:14.460 whores later and um it was kind of blackpilling i looked at the biggest whores from my college

00:28:22.780 i looked at the biggest whores from from my college don't you live at home in your folks mansion richie

00:28:29.900 says mind your business richie do i ask you where you live all right now they were all married to

00:28:37.660 pretty attractive guys i gotta be honest i like i and some with kids and i was thinking i'm like

00:28:42.720 there's no and i i honestly was looking at the girls that like didn't really have a reputation like

00:28:49.220 that and what was the common denominator the whores were hotter i mean it's like not a fair world

00:28:55.460 now i don't know what'll happen in 10 years i'm i'm 28 not 48 though they could all get divorced i

00:29:02.820 don't know and i like to think that'll happen but i have to like because you know i think there's a

00:29:07.480 part of you that thinks like people get punished for doing bad things i don't think that's true and

00:29:12.860 the older i get i'm like i don't think that's true at all i don't i really don't um it looks like

00:29:22.520 it's working now are we good on the website we are good on the website now right okay sorry guys

00:29:30.060 i had uh let me let me pull up the new chat i think there's a new one pearl reed women are better

00:29:38.360 off going their marriage route the richest woman in the world got her wealth through marriage well

00:29:43.440 yeah but doug mpa you're you're proving my point because women the richest woman in the world so

00:29:50.820 again the woman with the most freedom to do whatever she wants the most money and the most

00:29:57.000 access to hot guys which i guess mckenzie like you're thinking of this from a man's point of view

00:30:04.620 because a man would just think straight dollars but that's not what women are in it for

00:30:09.760 it's really they just we just want to get a bunch of attention for being hot take off our clothes

00:30:16.220 some bang hot dudes i mean that's like when it comes down to it so like you know because women

00:30:25.200 look up to kim kardashian they don't look up to mckenzie bezos do you know what i mean like when i see

00:30:30.320 like the women that are being hailed on social media i much i see kim way more than mckenzie

00:30:38.680 like you know kylie jenner is another it's woman that can make every bad decision possible and still

00:30:47.380 bang a hot guy at the end so again you're looking at like if women were better off doing that then we

00:30:54.240 would do it like you have to understand people tend to work in their best interest so even the the

00:31:00.280 good decision she's a billionaire through divorce which is the wrong decision right now you could

00:31:10.000 say in the long run but i mean now she's just going to go be a side piece to a chad so now it's like

00:31:18.560 even better for her if i'm being honest because she gets to go be a side piece to a chad and get banged

00:31:23.140 out by a chad and you get to pay for it congratulations fellas you're funding the

00:31:29.640 female fantasy women are rewarded with protection food shelter and what men provide well yeah but

00:31:38.180 that we if you're saying that women are rewarded um through marriage with that well yeah but you don't

00:31:45.920 get the excitement women that's what we want you got like you're putting your brain into a what like

00:31:51.860 women we like the excitement we like the hot guys we like getting naked that's our thing right so

00:31:57.620 you know um you're like but you get protection and provision well but if women divorce you they get

00:32:07.060 the provisioning they get the money um they we also have pretty easy jobs we can get the money from too

00:32:14.280 and shelter like we can go like what this isn't the 1900s we don't need you to build us a house

00:32:21.460 like we can get an apartment like i'm not trying to be rude but it's i'm just being honest like

00:32:29.300 because you know people are like scratching their heads they're like why are women making these

00:32:33.800 decisions well i think it's really obvious why we're making these decisions you will never mind find

00:32:41.440 more a more wretched hive of scum and villain villain villainy pearl said first off mind your business

00:32:49.940 yeah i mean where do you live it's like shut up you know

00:32:55.520 i'm not trying to die out here people don't always love me you know what i mean

00:33:02.240 it's just

00:33:04.720 now i gotta be honest when it comes to modesty now there's three types of women that i found

00:33:12.160 now this is just my experience from

00:33:15.980 playing in volleyball and i'd usually find there's three types of women on a team

00:33:23.140 actually i'm going to save that for next show this i could spit about this but i'll save it for next

00:33:30.100 i really got to finish this article okay so back to the dating apps all right psychologist researchers

00:33:37.820 and frustrated singles the problem of dating app burnout becomes beyond the help of ai fixing the

00:33:44.400 apps and love by extension comes back to understanding the way we connect why we connect

00:33:49.380 and where we've gone wrong it's just scroll scroll scroll emma elizabeth has three dating apps on her

00:33:56.360 phone do you know women are the only ones that could get when i was on the apps guys and i like to think

00:34:03.760 i'm a mid right i i'm you know i'm all right but i'm not even like an eight plus i had thousands of

00:34:14.380 matches okay thousands and

00:34:17.380 we are the only ones that can get thousands of choices

00:34:23.260 and still complain can you imagine having thousands of choices as a man

00:34:28.900 like can you can you imagine that right but women we have thousands and it's like well we hate the

00:34:35.320 matches well there's not one in there yeah okay look i'm sure some you'll get bent like banged out

00:34:43.420 whatever they don't call you back whatever but none you can't find one that'll call you back

00:34:50.100 you're that are we that are you that insufferable

00:34:53.960 okay um bumble and raya markets excel for the rich famous beautiful and powerful but none are on

00:35:04.760 rotation elizabeth 40 is a leading i mean yeah you're 40 that's why you hate the dating apps

00:35:10.420 like but go for the 60 year old it's like

00:35:14.220 women you know men they'll like men will learn the styles women like or go live where the hot women

00:35:22.400 are but women it's like we can't play the game on hard mode i mean if you're 40 you can kind of be

00:35:29.820 young to somebody now like i'm sure there's a 70 year old that would love to be with you

00:35:36.640 right or like a charming 60 you know now it's maybe it's a little weird to date that old but

00:35:44.860 i mean it's probably weird for them to date women as old as you so it's like uh you know i'm just

00:35:51.760 saying like we could kind of go where we're wanted as women um like there was a guy that called in that

00:35:58.500 was i think he was 60 dating a 40 year old and he would look like a very happy man you know like no

00:36:04.360 guy's gonna complain if he gets 20 years on like you know um now okay you might not be like getting

00:36:11.720 celebrities but there's got to be one guy hot enough for you to be happy with right

00:36:18.300 and plus at 40 you don't even have to sell purity anymore you can just give it out for free until

00:36:26.420 one sticks around like that's what i'd tell you to do at that age i would i would tell you there's no

00:36:32.620 point in selling purity because the men are gonna assume you're banged out anyway they really are you

00:36:37.800 might as well just go for it um but in the last year and and i would say that as a strategy because

00:36:44.520 if you make any guy wait at 40 he's just gonna hate you later he's gonna be like what the fuck

00:36:48.520 am i you're 40 what am i what are you waiting i mean if you find him attractive enough to bang him

00:36:53.240 i just i that's what i would tell you to do at 40 elizabeth okay but in the last year she's just

00:36:58.880 been on one date by her own choice she's had some bad experiences the last person she matched with

00:37:04.140 reportedly from the united nations found her number on the website and sent her a barrage of dick pics

00:37:09.580 her experience i mean block him it's like women that the it's so easy do you know what i've been

00:37:16.720 sent unsolicited stuff especially on like you know being a social media person and on instagram

00:37:22.680 like it's bad because you have to like click like sometimes i won't realize what it is and it's

00:37:28.360 like ah but then it ends because i block them and then i never have to deal with it again so yeah it's

00:37:32.860 annoying and sometimes i'm like ah you know but it's like and i don't think women are getting as many as

00:37:39.360 they're like saying that's my other thing because i'd say i'm pretty i'm not that famous but i'm like

00:37:47.040 i would say i get more attention on the internet than the average woman and i don't think it's that

00:37:53.000 big of a problem for me like i think the instagram filters and twitter filters just kind of filter it

00:37:58.240 out like it's just never been a huge issue for me personally so knowing that um 20 dollars

00:38:07.480 i used to be nice to my girl but i started being mean and not caring about her feelings she does more

00:38:13.620 for me and i get laid for more women are crazy because she really thinks i'm an asshole i know

00:38:19.100 it's like do you know what um i think men and women we both hate when the stupid stuff works

00:38:28.360 i can't play my cards here okay i can't i can't tell my cards as a woman of things that work okay i really

00:38:36.800 can't because i can't give away secrets but even as a woman there's things where you're like this

00:38:44.600 freaking world met like like there was a girl on my team and she dated one of the hottest guys on

00:38:51.540 campus he was so hot and i'm telling you she had two voices and her other voice was like an octave

00:38:58.380 higher than her normal voice and i swear to god he ate that up because she was dating one of the most

00:39:03.740 attracted men on campus game is game like she would have two personalities she'd be a bitch dust but

00:39:12.760 then she'd go to him and i'm like what on earth where did but hey you know okay i gotta stop i gotta

00:39:20.300 stop spitting i gotta stop i gotta i gotta finish this article it's like pearl focus all right um

00:39:28.020 the source of elizabeth's dissatisfaction is also simple after years with apps hovering on her phone

00:39:34.720 she considers for them a time waster the disconnect between the images people are putting online and

00:39:41.100 what they show on the day up on the date is exhausting you can go into this vortex and just

00:39:46.100 scroll scroll scroll you get the ink and you just think this is too much she isn't paying for any of

00:39:51.400 the premium versions of the app i think the minute you pay maybe it's better i just don't want to pay for

00:39:55.980 it i prefer to meet someone in real life look at 40 you gotta pay okay because i can't imagine like

00:40:02.540 it's got to be a dumpster fire out there so at 40 you definitely got like you if at 40 i would spend

00:40:11.220 10 grand on a matchmaker a personal trainer and a stylist that's what i would do at 40 i'd maybe

00:40:16.800 invest in a boob job and botox i mean the guys will say oh we don't like that shut up you guys don't

00:40:22.160 even know like i mean you guys okay do you know what you guys don't like fake stuff if you know

00:40:30.020 it's fake but you guys don't always know when it's fake now the women that go too far

00:40:35.360 yeah okay you guys know the lip filler yeah that that stuff is nasty but i've seen women get nose jobs

00:40:44.940 and that shit changed their life i've seen women get good boob jobs and that shit like

00:40:49.400 you guys can't what you guys can tell me is like when you guys tell me things it's like when men

00:40:55.960 tell like when men when women are like oh we like the nice guys and you guys roll your eyes

00:41:01.940 that's how i feel about natural right but the thing is the women can never tell the guy if you tell him

00:41:10.500 you ruined it for him you can't like deny till you die ladies i'm not talking about morality here i'm

00:41:17.860 talking about the best results and the work has to be so good you can't tell that's the answer

00:41:22.580 there's a catch though i think people are scared to put themselves forward when they're out and about

00:41:28.240 so we're in a lose lose situation it's a common feeling to among the disillusion the apps have

00:41:34.680 become the dominant area for the dating at the cost of real life meet cutes for the first few years

00:41:40.820 after the apps arrived on the scenes this was fine if not fun today the fear that the love of your life

00:41:49.100 might be stuck behind a paywall and also less likely to ask for your number at a bar is accurate

00:41:53.380 maybe the apps need to get some sort of viral disease says elizabeth and we will just turn them

00:41:59.620 all off for a while zach sidler is an australian clinical psychologist and researcher who has studied

00:42:05.680 connections between masculinity intimacy and men's mental health while he doesn't think that the

00:42:11.680 apps have reduced our abilities to pick up in real life they have fundamentally shifted our psychology

00:42:17.620 do the apps change our interactive abilities that are in a real life pub no but what the apps have

00:42:24.000 done has made us less likely to get out there and therefore shifted our competence and confidence

00:42:28.420 to having that interaction there's nothing with us that's broken just a lack of willingness and

00:42:33.620 practice however he says that the apps have changed the way we evaluate potential partners

00:42:38.100 when you meet someone at a pub um you have a voice in the back of your head asking is this the best

00:42:43.280 option for me that's a women think men think good enough men think is she gonna fuck you know men think

00:42:49.920 am i banging this chick tonight women think is this the best like that's what women men think good enough

00:42:58.520 i'll do it i'll do it would and this was far less of an issue in our parents generations because they

00:43:07.240 didn't have perceived access to everyone and it is perceived we do not have access to everyone that

00:43:12.140 we think we do men don't women pretty much do if you're hot enough as a girl the sky is the limit really

00:43:18.280 if you catfish enough and you're hot enough it's like why do women catfish well they can get flew

00:43:24.300 out by someone better than you sorry fellas sorry you know i mean you're like why do women post ass

00:43:31.560 pics because some guy's gonna see it and think yes the underlying psychology mechanism that's really

00:43:37.280 changing our faith in our decision making abilities um run club book clubs or get your mates to swipe is

00:43:44.920 that have you guys been meeting at run clubs or book clubs let me know events event bright 2024 dating

00:43:50.900 report found that american millennial 70 percent would prefer to meet in person because they think

00:43:55.580 it feels more meaningful nearly half would like to meet through friends while 34 percent are mean

00:44:00.380 open to meeting someone simply going about their day their dream spots coffee shops bookstores music

00:44:06.040 ventures libraries and the outdoors what are the dream spots for you what are the meanwhile just over a

00:44:13.000 quarter 27 percent of gen z and millennials anticipate they'll meet a potential romantic partner at a social

00:44:19.360 or community clubs enter run clubs across the world these clubs have exploded in popularity in the next

00:44:25.100 couple of years park run arguably the biggest run club in the world has some 370 000 people taking

00:44:31.640 place in its weekly five kilometer format in australia the number of runners and volunteers has climbed 23

00:44:37.640 percent last year to 77 000 whether one should try to find true love while sweating it out is a tricky

00:44:43.600 matter for run club coordinators after all it's one thing to strike up a friendly chat as you go

00:44:48.520 as you pound the pavement it's another to discover your once innocent run club has become a hunting

00:44:54.040 ground and your lycra clad prey looking you get men and women together people are fucking i mean it's

00:45:00.560 just it is what it is like men and women at work they start hooking up right men and women at a run

00:45:07.340 club at a gym some run clubs have popped up specifically for singles tinder itself has one a new dating app

00:45:15.100 called lunge has its own run club where everyone is single and wears black to be honest i'm trying i'm

00:45:20.400 tired of trying to find someone i'm i'm always like the friend or brother why keep trying if all they

00:45:26.920 want is unrealistic expectations it's not worth it really it's not worth enough for a hot piece of tail

00:45:33.800 what if she's really hot you never know okay but plenty of other businesses are finding ways to tap into

00:45:40.820 this app dissatisfaction without resorting to physical exercise amy lynn the founder of events

00:45:47.840 companies no swipes considers the illusion of endless options and such a premium being placed on any given

00:45:54.240 match to be the real culprits behind dating app burnout um first coffee then air rather than collude

00:46:01.740 women dislike their husbands before no fault before divorce maybe women are victims of fomo from social

00:46:08.040 pressure oh my god women are victims of course of course uh how do we see what people really want

00:46:17.980 to do you give them the freedom to do anything unfortunately when you give us ultimate freedom

00:46:23.860 we're just bad people i don't know what it is um and now they're still not happy even when they get

00:46:30.840 the celebrity i know i mean we're never happy but i think it's just our inherent nature like

00:46:36.620 you know it's like the rich man who gets rich and cheats well he always wanted to cheat it's just a lot

00:46:45.960 easier for him now was he a victim who was brainwashed like do you hear how you sound oh the rich men that

00:46:52.440 cheat or the the clouded men that cheat are just brainwashed victims

00:46:57.580 yeah okay um all right she and co-founder natalie smith bootstrapped their business to launch their

00:47:09.260 first event in april 2023 the idea is simple get 200 single guys and 200 single girls okay so

00:47:16.320 translation um 50 men will screw the 200 girls yeah um the mass dating markets are gamified

00:47:25.480 people are tired of this way of dating and looking for alternatives to meet people it's simple we

00:47:30.540 run the best parties where everyone happens to be single she says the events which run i feel like men

00:47:35.920 just aren't going to want to go to this i mean they're saying it sells out but i just can't imagine

00:47:40.740 the men i i guess i'll find out dating events are also on the up with event price

00:47:45.960 reporting single event attendance jumping 42 between 2022 and 2023 and 49 this year

00:47:52.780 fellow founder founder briguette gail launched a dating app hello darling with co-founder brendan

00:48:00.040 lee in january their idea is that you know you better than yourself and you're and they're likely not as

00:48:07.140 burnt out by the apps as you are so why not swipe on their behalf gail's currently swiping on behalf of

00:48:12.640 her co-founder she'll be served up to 15 profiles a day and if she encounters someone she thinks would

00:48:19.040 be a good fit and the same thing happens on the other side of the equation a match is made

00:48:23.360 the app will send the two off on a blind date with the potential lovebirds selecting whether they want to

00:48:32.340 drink coffee or meal of where to go lee and gail don't charge users but in the future they plan to make

00:48:38.220 money by taking a percentage of the total bill from partner ventures in a similar way to how uber eats

00:48:44.860 is monetized we don't think we should be charging our users to be able to possibly meet the love of

00:48:50.980 our life to go on a date with someone our aim is to get two people in the room and we don't want to

00:48:55.500 stop that i would do anything for love um but i wouldn't do that it speaks to the question how much

00:49:00.460 would you pay for love or perhaps better question what would it cost you to pay to find love well

00:49:05.080 morgan stanley says 32 percent of singles in the u.s use a dating app and a quarter of them pay match

00:49:11.240 has observed its eighth consecutive quarterly decline in the number of paying users and while

00:49:17.560 paying paying users are down revenue per payer is up 1839 this time last year to 1926 a tinder

00:49:26.920 subscription in 2020 costs as little as seven bucks a month today premium platinum subscription it'll set

00:49:33.000 you back 50 bucks hinge's basic product is free to use but if you want to see everyone who likes you

00:49:39.320 at once and set more preferences such as height or vice once a week upgrades to hinge plus it'll set

00:49:46.040 you back 24.99 and if you want to see and if you want to see and have the opportunity to match with

00:49:53.400 those who are most your type dub standouts you'll need to upgrade to hinge x for 40 bucks a week

00:49:59.080 um the feature is particular is a particular sore spot amongst users when i ask my single friends

00:50:09.240 what see this is the problem because the women the app sucks if you give women ultimate choice

00:50:14.920 so then you say to the women we're gonna dial back your choice because you got to give some of these

00:50:19.640 guys a shot that are in your league and then the women start completely like how can we do that let's

00:50:24.280 up the price and let's limit how many people you can see and then the women are like no hot guys only

00:50:32.360 um all right stop gate keeping the hottie yeah you see i said it before i even read it stop

00:50:40.280 gate keeping the hotties is one one memorable all caps demand this friend is talking about the way hinge

00:50:47.480 uses its algorithm to pinpoint users exact type before sticking them behind a paywall online their paywall

00:50:54.120 is dubbed the rose jail the only way to match with the blessed few behind the bars is to send them a

00:51:00.360 rose a token of affection that can only be gated by limb limited number of times hinge says roses are

00:51:07.080 twice as likely to lead to a date than a regular like but unfortunately for many sending one feels

00:51:13.080 like the mobile phone equivalent of please love me elizabeth says it feels like she's on the bachelorette

00:51:19.240 it's super cringe worthy as one zillennial single i know says it's giving desperate the fact that if

00:51:27.000 you even can overcome the hit the hit to your finances and your ego of sending a rose just because

00:51:33.960 you're paying to have to have better matches doesn't mean they'll like the look of you in return

00:51:40.360 so women are seeing how the men like the women are having to pay and they don't like it

00:51:44.920 the men are like we've always paid do you know how many times i've paid and not gotten laid

00:51:50.120 they're like we got no sympathy we do not care no subscription tier no matter how expensive can

00:51:56.440 guarantee love yet the idea that the apps are purposefully hiding the ones you're most interested

00:52:01.400 in whether true or not is conducive to a positive experience says lisa portolan since the paid components

00:52:10.520 of the dating apps have become far more prevalent there have been a lot more questions about whether the

00:52:14.680 dating apps are just keeping them there for longer paying the fees as opposed to meeting people she

00:52:19.720 says portolan is a researcher whose phd on dating apps and into intimacy was published this year her

00:52:29.960 topic the 10 ways to find love and how to keep it in her research she found that for many being on the

00:52:35.720 apps conflicts with their idea of what love should be they think they're supposed to meet on a bus or in

00:52:40.440 a bookshop or in their eyes will lock and they'll feel the dating app itself flies in the face of the

00:52:45.080 love story who thinks that men or women who's realistic then who's unrealistic women men are like yep it's time to

00:52:54.040 download the apps dms on instagram and go to the bars they're like i'm not above it if i get laid i get laid

00:53:01.320 it's the women that want this like fairytale love story

00:53:07.160 the men are like i got rejected do you have a sister do you have a friend do you have a mother

00:53:13.480 i don't care okay there's a real tension for people using the dating app they think i've got to be here

00:53:19.400 but i don't actually believe it's going to deliver on the romantic proposition that i'm after after that

00:53:25.320 they're paying to meet someone they can feel like a bridge too far the subscription-based model

00:53:30.600 has a lot of people on the back foot it's a big thing that a lot of people are talking about why

00:53:35.240 should i have to pay for them portal and says the subscription model is not working for them

00:53:40.440 and from a brand perspective it doesn't really help them foster authenticity people don't think

00:53:45.880 that they're anymore to help them find a match they obviously have still have to be financially

00:53:51.880 viable in some way shape or form but this pathway is not really giving them the social license to

00:53:57.400 operate so i think they will evolve to a different sort of funding you and i robot seedier estimates that

00:54:05.160 he went on 100 dates in five or six years then one day he went to a pub with a woman he met on hedge

00:54:10.600 followed with a lot a walk along the beach and now they'll be married by christmas there's definitely

00:54:16.040 hope out there until the divorce hope for now and a whole beauty to be found on this app but much

00:54:26.360 of cedar's work with young men is helping them change the internal narratives they've built and they've

00:54:31.560 tried to find love he has but have been emotionally wrecked along the way it's important to realize the

00:54:38.120 notion of communication love romance and intimacy is so hardwired and continuously described as the number

00:54:44.200 one metric of success in a young man's life the pressure is real for these guys the perception

00:54:49.160 of failure is what leads young guys to influencers who tell them they're victims of women

00:54:57.000 yeah guys that say put up or shut up bitch oh that's hilarious they're so women are so mad that

00:55:04.920 the men are like yep you're not a virgin put out bitch put out or i walk

00:55:10.840 um victims of women withholding sex dates and love sometimes with violent results

00:55:20.600 what i try to do is myth bust but also try to have a conversation with men about what type of

00:55:25.240 vulnerability openness and connection is required to be a successful partner and try to undermine

00:55:30.680 those narratives that you have to be an alpha regardless of gender spending too much time on the

00:55:35.080 of course where the culture gets involved in the world that's efficient with you and that's

00:55:38.600 the learner for example mentoring but you can starting to improve your layer if you're

00:55:39.400 going to capitalize on that but if you see that anthropologistkkeki of learning is the

00:55:40.360 ocean why is it skill you end up looking for it for a second time in the universe

00:55:41.640 700 day of the world so more people free الد red app be answered

00:55:44.320 try to understand that you have to

00:55:45.820 be done so much more門 either your ideas is in you and see if john Verm hungry not

00:55:47.520 you need to find out a key space and he wants to squeezeUs on that

00:55:48.680 on screen on screen as someone you ever command melding and facebook

00:55:49.480 sidebar 2016 th cabo this page has responded to that goes out last time

00:55:50.520 on the top two three days it came out around in trid highways which has been

00:56:02.560 that some of our users struggles to even get a first date and they need help with either choosing

00:56:07.800 the right photos or writing the right prompt all the way down to approach the first date.

00:56:13.700 Does that mean these flirty messages that guys or girls send you on Hinge has actually been

00:56:18.900 written by a robot? Not quite, says McCloid. We want to make sure that we are not putting words

00:56:23.220 into your mouth. He gives example of someone's whose Hinge bio says they love brunch. We're able

00:56:28.260 to say, hey, you know, that's probably not going to represent your personality very well. People

00:56:33.300 don't know how to respond to that. Where do you like to have brunch and what do you like to talk

00:56:38.360 about? So again, that's for men, right? Because women read bios. Men look for boobs. You know what

00:56:45.240 I mean? They're like, they're on a dating app. They're like, is she hot? Is she my type? Is she

00:56:51.800 hot? And does she have any glaring red flags? And if they're looking for something short term,

00:56:57.060 they're like, the more red flags, the better. Sleeve tattoo right this way, lady. But he also says

00:57:05.220 they're using AI to refine the matching algorithm. We're able to be more nuanced and focus more on

00:57:10.920 quality over quantity when it comes to matching, he says. Questioned about Rose Jail, he says that

00:57:16.760 Hinge has almost been religious about only adding features if they lead to more dates. The fact is

00:57:21.660 standouts and Roses do work. They also make Hinge money across match groups for operating segments,

00:57:28.640 Tinder, MG Asia, E&E, and Hinge. Hinge reports the highest revenue per user at $30.62.

00:57:34.960 I actually went to a wedding recently of someone who sent a rose to a standout. They were like,

00:57:39.600 it's the best $2.99 I've ever spent. And there's a lot of nuance on Hinge because we do deliver every

00:57:44.680 like and we don't want to overwhelm users who are getting more attention. But we don't want to

00:57:48.960 restrict you from being able to shoot your shot with somebody. We do deliver every like,

00:57:54.120 which is why we have to be so thoughtful about who we serve to whom. It's not about other dating apps

00:58:00.920 where there's the double opt-in, where if you like someone, you maybe got 500 slots in their stat card.

00:58:08.180 For those in the Thors of burnout, McLeod says the best way to become excited about romance again is to

00:58:13.620 just remember that it really only takes one. Sometimes the person who's sitting right in front of you can

00:58:18.900 be the person you're missing out on. So many times I've spoken to friends and they say I'm not

00:58:23.040 finding anyone on Hinge. And then they show me their account and there are seven people who are

00:58:26.860 sitting there waiting for a response. You do your best on Hinge when you really are thoughtful and

00:58:32.360 intentional. Pearl, because I can. Thank you. Also, whether she's found it hard to be burnt out on

00:58:40.980 dating apps, Elizabeth laughs. Okay, so now she's going to cope, right? She's saying I'm not burnt out.

00:58:48.900 This doesn't hurt my feelings. Um, let me see if anyone wanted Pearl Reed. I think that once a

00:58:57.960 person pays on the dating apps and the bots take over and try to get you to continue to pay,

00:59:02.120 what do you think? I don't know. I wasn't on them long enough. Um, I'm surrounded by amazing friends,

00:59:09.820 amazing family. My dad has really a funny saying. Emma, a woman who needs a man is like a fish that needs

00:59:14.800 a fish that needs a bicycle. They're unnecessary. See, that's the simp dad. So like a lot of times

00:59:20.020 the simp dads, again, they inflate the woman's ego, right? Here's the thing. I'm going to do a show

00:59:27.080 on this as a dad. This is kind of uncomfortable, right? But your daughter's going to get banged out

00:59:31.760 by somebody like somebody's going to do it right now. What age you could push that off to maybe 20?

00:59:37.500 Uh, when I was in school, the last girls were maybe 20. Okay. The first girls were like 14.

00:59:44.940 That's the timeframe. So, you know, at some point we got to think it's better if you kind of have a

00:59:52.180 hand in it, right? Or at least you put her in an environment where the guys are like better,

00:59:56.500 like the worst place to send your daughter is to be a waitress because she's going to be banging the

01:00:02.920 cooks, right? Like, and those guys have criminal records. Like that's a bad, but like, do you know

01:00:10.280 what I would do if I had a daughter? I think I'd go to some high income, like really stable sport I'd

01:00:17.360 make her play. I was thinking tennis. Now, I don't know. I don't have a daughter. This is stuff you guys

01:00:21.540 have to think about, not me. You know, I would maybe think tennis, maybe like the thing is cheerleaders,

01:00:30.580 but it depends on the sport. Cause there's some pretty weird, like you don't want to get her to

01:00:38.880 go for the ghetto guys on the football or basketball. You know what I mean? So there is a higher risk

01:00:45.340 there, even though some can do pretty well in life. Um, trying to think maybe have her play violin

01:00:54.000 or something. I feel like the musical get like, I feel like, you know, there's not really D you know,

01:01:01.600 demon time, violin, male players. I don't know. You guys would have to tell me where you'd send

01:01:06.820 your, this'll be a different show, but, and I'm just a woman with opinions, right? You could take

01:01:12.580 this or leave it, but I'm just thinking from a strategy point of view. I mean, some, but like

01:01:17.540 somebody's going to do, it's kind of uncomfortable, right? But somebody's going to do it. So it might,

01:01:23.520 you might as well have some sort of like, Hey, these are like the boys in the area. You know,

01:01:29.640 these are like the boys, like, yeah. And depending on the age difference, maybe there's like guys you

01:01:38.840 work with. I don't know. Like that are good, but you know, the problem is we keep sending them to like

01:01:45.520 colleges. And then have you seen those girls that go viral on Twitter, right? I'm not saying this is

01:01:52.240 going to be your daughters, right? But on Twitter, there's women going viral for like just doing

01:01:58.280 crazy stuff. These are non-famous women. We covered one on the show, Mary Kate Cornette.

01:02:02.980 I mean, I guess she banged her boyfriend's dad. I mean that, that you couldn't have really stopped,

01:02:07.780 right? But like one of them, I mean, the dad sent his daughter to the university of Arizona. What,

01:02:13.820 what did you think was going to happen? And so now the dad's actually going viral on Twitter.

01:02:18.460 This has got to be a worst nightmare as a father because this girl got tag teamed on camera

01:02:24.080 and it was just like a private sex tape, but it got leaked on Twitter. And now she's trending on

01:02:29.300 Twitter. And so is the father. There's nothing you can really do, but if me from a strategy point

01:02:37.280 of view, what I would, what I would think to do now, I could be wrong, right? You guys are men.

01:02:41.600 I'm sure you could think of better plans than me, but I would, I'd maybe, I'd make a, I'd have her

01:02:48.200 go work. I'd be like, Hey, you know, that golf course is hiring because, you know, even if she

01:02:54.300 gets banged out by the golf course chat, at least that's a higher caliber, a guy. And she knows like

01:02:59.220 the caliber of men to like go for, right? I know it's like, it's way easier to just believe the sweet,

01:03:05.360 innocent angel, you know, but it's, that's the strategy.

01:03:12.200 Trat traditional Catholic college. Well, yeah, but then now you got Catholic school girls,

01:03:17.780 right? That's a reputation. Now I'm not, I think the more like dads try to stop it, the worse the

01:03:24.400 daughter gets, but like the more they're just like, Hey, these are the consequences. Good luck.

01:03:29.680 Good luck. Chica. Um, you get to pick, but then like, if it was me, I'd just try to like put the,

01:03:38.240 put her in an environment where the least, like the least demons are, or if they are demons, right?

01:03:46.460 At least it's a classy demon, right? Like I would just, I would think you'd rather have your daughter

01:03:52.760 taken out with like a guy on a golf course than taken out with like the guy on the, on the basketball

01:03:59.360 team. I don't know. I'm just like, at least one is like a career gotten out, you know,

01:04:04.860 you guys tell me in the chat. Okay. I don't, you got, I just, the dads, like, I think there's a

01:04:11.940 reason there's like a pastor's daughter because the dads that do that and try to stop it and just

01:04:16.740 live in complete delusion. I mean, women love doing the wrong thing, right? Like we love it. Like we

01:04:22.280 love the wrong thing. So that's why you got kids like Catholic school girls trend. That's why you

01:04:27.700 got the, because it's like, the more you say, this is the wrong thing, the more women are like,

01:04:31.980 let me do it. Right. So I don't know, you know, so they, all right. Anyway, I keep getting off topic

01:04:39.040 on this show. Okay. There was an expectation that when you get in your late thirties and forties,

01:04:44.080 you'll do the baby thing, the house thing and the marriage thing. And I just think, gosh,

01:04:47.180 can we not, is happiness not an okay enough thing to achieve? All, all of which to say on apps are

01:04:54.300 not, Elizabeth is not on the hunt and happily. So she's like, I'm not trying. And then like,

01:05:00.280 they're like, well, it's not working out for you. And she's like, well, I'm happy. And it's like,

01:05:03.640 well, then why did you write this whole article? Right? Why did you write, why did you write?

01:05:09.180 I don't think it's true. It'll happen when you least expect it.

01:05:16.740 Doesn't matter. Being banged out by Chad just lowers her value and chance of being married.

01:05:21.360 You do need to do an arranged marriage. Look, I just don't agree with that because you guys are

01:05:27.200 guys. You are never, women are going to know more about the promiscuity of women than you guys,

01:05:32.900 because one, women, we love gossip. Women tell each other things they don't tell you guys.

01:05:37.700 So if I saw a correlation between purity and women getting married, I would tell you,

01:05:44.400 right? I would, I think that's what you guys want, but that's not like what I see men. Now,

01:05:52.400 now women that go too far and get shit on the internet. Okay. Yeah. They're done. I'm going

01:05:57.860 to do a whole show on the women that I saw win the most, but that's a different day. Okay.

01:06:05.040 Here, we're going to do an Instagram of how people met. Okay. Hold on. Let me make this. Can

01:06:13.800 I make this full screen? I guess not. I'm just going to zoom in. Okay. So, all right. So now we're

01:06:22.420 going to, yeah. So right now we're in 1946. It's 22% friends. So the 1950s people met through

01:06:38.080 friends, 20% family, 18% school. So whenever people say, go back to the 1950s, remember the

01:06:45.140 first sexual revolution was the roaring twenties. They're not as innocent. Women have an incentive

01:06:50.280 to make you believe that women in the past were more pure so they can brag about it and say,

01:06:55.280 oh, we were never like that. But come on. You know, there's a guy that does genealogy records

01:07:01.700 and he was saying like a lot of like more people were born from the neighbor than people realize.

01:07:10.620 Low body count is not about getting married. It's about the marriage last. Totally. I completely agree

01:07:14.880 with you. But you have to understand, you have to get in the door for it to last. Like that's step one.

01:07:21.540 Now I understand that like the less promiscuous women, but you have to get there first, right?

01:07:28.520 Yeah, that's, that's, that's the most honest take I've seen. Purity is for God.

01:07:58.520 It's for God. Like, and I understand there's winners and losers in this game,

01:08:05.320 but I just haven't seen that big of a difference. I mean, the pure women that get married go and get

01:08:10.540 divorced because they felt like they missed out. I haven't really seen much of a difference. I'm

01:08:14.480 just being honest online. Yeah. 2015, a third of couples online, online, 60%, 13% friends. Would you throw

01:08:34.940 hands with Megyn Kelly or Tommy Lauren? I think I would kick their ass if we did a boxing match. If I was,

01:08:41.540 the question is, how much am I being paid? Would I do it for free? No. Would I do it for money? Yes.

01:08:52.540 Yeah. Okay. So now we got 60% of couples met online.

01:08:57.380 All right. Now here's a woman also saying dating apps are dead.

01:09:05.280 You've deleted the dating apps. I reached a point today where I'm done. I, I'm just officially done.

01:09:12.080 I don't, I don't ever want to swipe again in my life. I don't ever want to have the stupidest

01:09:18.740 conversations in my life. I am good. And I'm just going to focus on meeting people in the wild,

01:09:26.060 like the good old days. Right. Um, I've seen actually so many women on this app, especially

01:09:32.560 talk about how like they're done with the dating apps and they're going to try just like putting

01:09:36.580 themselves out there and opening themselves up to meeting people in person. And I do feel like we

01:09:40.580 need to get back to that. And a lot of what's on the dating apps is trash, but I also have to take

01:09:45.020 accountability because I don't really like who I am on the dating apps either really in any way.

01:09:50.140 She's honest. It's like my past relationships or I've like seriously dated somebody. And if you're

01:09:54.560 one of those people and you're watching this, I'm sorry, I might offend you right now, but I wasn't

01:09:58.660 like initially super attracted to them. It was as we got talking and I got to like field her. I'm sure

01:10:04.420 men are like, yes, I can't wait to date you. I'm so excited to date you after like, can you imagine

01:10:10.400 if men said this about us, you know, initially I wasn't really attracted to her. I thought she was

01:10:15.560 kind of ugly. I thought she was like medium ugly, but I gave her a chance and she gave me the gluck

01:10:20.160 gluck and you know, good enough. Now they might thank it, but the guys aren't dumb enough to say it

01:10:25.860 right. Women are their energy and gets another personality where that attraction. I'm like, Oh,

01:10:32.040 okay. I like you. And I just like, that is so impossible to do on the dating apps. And I'm just

01:10:38.100 over it. I'm like, here's to meeting people in the wild. Raise your hand. Okay. Next we got

01:10:45.920 podcaster and also guys, I'm good. I want to ask how your experience on dating apps has been.

01:10:51.820 And I'm also, I want you to call in and tell me your experience. Um, like if you, if you have been

01:10:58.520 actively dating where you've been meeting people now, if you're bowing out, please don't call in

01:11:03.200 to just tell me you're not dating. That's, that's not, I want to talk to people that are actively

01:11:07.540 dating. Okay. And if your answer is, I got no matches, like it's not, I mean, then it has to be,

01:11:17.440 I, I had no matches. So I did this. Okay. And we're going to do it after this baby girl,

01:11:22.880 baby boy,

01:11:23.680 there used to be 290 million people globally using dating apps. Now that number is down to 240 million.

01:11:34.080 It's like a thing. People are sick of the dating apps. I get it because I think the part of it

01:11:39.520 that's broken is like women have this like unrealistic expectation of what they want for

01:11:44.160 guys. So they have this like profile in their head of a guy that they want. And they just swipe,

01:11:48.760 swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe. And I think on the other hand, I think guys have so many girls.

01:11:53.700 I think they just kind of like, why settle down?

01:11:55.960 What I've seen from my guy friends that relates to this dynamic is like a really weird bifurcation

01:12:03.460 of success that exists on these apps. So like some guys who, who like fit that profile, they're

01:12:12.660 just, they get so much, so much action, so many swipes, so many dates. Uh, and then that creates like

01:12:19.240 a dynamic where they're, you know, dating multiple people and like inherently it's very hard for them

01:12:24.780 to settle down. And who knows when they ever will settle down. Cause like there's, oh my gosh,

01:12:29.160 there used to be 290 million who, who like 30 years of apps with height filters and no weight

01:12:34.940 filters. Women would find a way to lie about that too. I mean, you just come on. They're like,

01:12:39.780 there's no point fit that profile. They're just, they get so much, so much action, so many swipes,

01:12:47.420 so many dates. Uh, and then that creates like a dynamic where they're, you know, dating multiple

01:12:52.400 people and like inherently it's very hard for them to settle down and who knows when they ever will

01:12:58.020 settle down. Cause like, there's just so many options versus guys on the other end of the

01:13:02.860 spectrum that like, don't necessarily, you know, maybe check a lot of those boxes and you know,

01:13:09.660 it's strikeout city on the apps. There used to be 290 million. Okay. All right. So now we're going

01:13:20.220 to take Collins. Um, we're going to do camera. I'm going to do cameras on today, but if you tell

01:13:32.040 me right away, you can, you can say, I want to see you guys, but you can be off screen if you want,

01:13:37.780 but you're going to have to tell me that like right away because otherwise I'm just going to think it's

01:13:42.080 fine. Um, okay. But yeah, we could bring someone up and Doug MPA. Feel free to call in to give your

01:13:54.100 thoughts. Justin, what's going on? You're muted. You got to unmute yourself. Hey, how's it going?

01:14:06.560 How are you? I'm good. How are you doing? I'm good. So do you still use dating apps?

01:14:16.680 Um, yes, I do. Um, currently on okay. Cupid. Okay. How's I've heard a lot of people say,

01:14:25.260 okay. Cupid has it been working well for you? Um, is that a wedding ring? Nope. Okay. Oh,

01:14:35.740 I was like, I was like, it looks like a wedding ring. Go ahead. Go ahead. No, just a ring. Um,

01:14:43.220 so I'm actually technically back on okay. Cupid. Okay. Uh, I met my ex-wife on okay. Cupid.

01:14:51.080 Okay. And how has the quality been? Have the women been hot? Have you been getting a lot of dates or no?

01:14:58.140 Well, uh, so that's kind of why I'm on the website. Uh, I could, uh, it's going to sound

01:15:07.960 however it's going to sound, but, uh, I could honestly go to any bar anytime I want and go

01:15:20.240 find a nice lady with a warm bed for me to share. It's not a problem. That's why I'm on the dating

01:15:26.680 websites. I'm not looking for to hook up or anything like that. Um, I just, I'm looking for

01:15:32.820 the whole wife, kids, white picket fence, that whole deal. And you don't find any women that are

01:15:39.060 like marriage material at the bars. I mean, like, cause I know a lot of married women when they're

01:15:44.920 young, they used to go to the bars, you know? Yeah. Uh, that always ends one way.

01:15:53.760 What's your experience, bud?

01:15:56.840 So I used to, I used to be a bartender and, uh, did that for like 15 years and off and on.

01:16:06.780 And I actually bartended in Manhattan for a while, three years. Uh, I had

01:16:13.840 a lot of fun. Oh, I think I had my share of fun. I think I had a few other people's shares of fun.

01:16:21.740 Like I said, I know what's waiting for me at the bar. That's, uh, that's not, that doesn't lead to

01:16:28.520 you. You can go to any bar and find somebody to go home with you. That's not a problem.

01:16:35.440 Very attractive women to go home with you. It's not a problem. That's not what I'm looking for. That's

01:16:41.260 not how you find a wife. Are, um, so none of the women at the bar had any sort of like long-term,

01:16:49.980 like you never met a girl at the bar that you could have seen yourself dating ever.

01:16:56.840 No, I mean, I've met a couple that I would like to, what I'm saying about the bar is I've never met

01:17:02.660 a woman at the bar who didn't go home with me. Okay. Okay. Uh, Hey, Hey, pro it's Doug in PA. I have

01:17:10.860 a question. So the, have you ever seen a woman that constantly goes to the bar that a man can pull

01:17:20.260 out of the bar? I understand what I'm saying? As in like, you, you start dating a girl that goes to

01:17:25.500 the bar and then she stops going to the bar because, because my experience is bar girls or bar

01:17:30.880 girls, whether they're like in a relationship or not. So once a girl becomes one of those people

01:17:38.200 where you always catch them at a bar, you, you can't pull them out of there. It doesn't matter

01:17:41.840 if they're in a relationship or married or what has a, was that your experience, Justin?

01:17:46.620 Uh, like I said, the, the women I meet at the bars are, seem to be, uh, at least interested

01:17:59.260 in me for one thing. Oh, I see. Like, I'll be honest. I lived in New York for three years

01:18:08.040 and I met a different woman every single night, honestly. Um, and I was, I was stupid, but let's,

01:18:23.680 let's call it naive. We'll be nice. I didn't realize what was happening for the first year

01:18:29.120 and a half. Every time I met a girl at the bar, I thought, Oh man, this, this, this, this chick

01:18:34.080 really likes me. We're going to, we're going to go out on dates and, you know, it's going

01:18:37.560 to, it's going to turn into something. It took me a while to realize that at best, it was

01:18:46.560 like a flame, you know, maybe we'd hook up for like a week, but otherwise it was just, you

01:18:53.740 know, about that night. Uh, and it sounds, I don't know how many guys you would get complaining

01:19:01.700 about that, but that was never what I was looking for. Honestly, I'm, I'm probably super

01:19:09.780 weird and lame. Ever since I was like a little kid, like all I ever wanted was to grow up,

01:19:18.380 find the woman I love, have some kids, get up every day, go to a job. I hopefully don't

01:19:24.640 hate the moment, the woman, some kids. It's all I ever wanted since I was old enough to remember

01:19:30.020 wanting anything, honestly. Uh, but instead I, I found the, the hookup life.

01:19:40.620 Have you found on OkCupid that women are more interested in long-term or is it similar?

01:19:45.540 Uh, the women I meet, uh, I'd say more, more similar, like they seem willing to

01:20:04.860 sleep with me on the first date every time. Um, even my ex-wife did, to be honest with

01:20:16.720 you. I met her on OkCupid. We were together the first night and every night thereafter.

01:20:23.220 We're married for five minutes. You know what? You know what? I want to, because I was telling

01:20:27.160 a pro that we should do a show about this. I think that the concept of a woman sleeping

01:20:32.720 with a man on the first night, we really need to, to re-examine exactly what that means.

01:20:38.400 Because you, you want to be the type of guy that the woman sleeps with on the first night.

01:20:44.360 Do you want to be the guy that she makes wait and wait 90 days?

01:20:48.200 I don't, I don't, I don't care how many, like call it, I've, I've literally told women this

01:20:55.280 too. Like, you know, however many dates, like, I don't care. You know, I will, I will wait

01:21:02.160 however many dates. It doesn't matter.

01:21:05.720 But, but you're, you're saying you don't care, like, but you'd be open to dating a woman that

01:21:10.680 you slept with on the first date. It's more like they just don't want relationships, right?

01:21:15.080 That's your experience?

01:21:18.200 Like, they just want to, they just want to have sex for like a week and then bounce.

01:21:23.360 Seemingly, or at least that's the way it, it used to, like, I've, I've had a change of

01:21:29.300 heart. I started going back to church, uh, Christian and, um, not trying to like sleep

01:21:37.700 around, just looking for the, like my ex-wife, like I said, we slept together the first night

01:21:45.140 and I proposed to her a week to the day we met.

01:21:49.660 Wow.

01:21:51.760 How long were you married?

01:21:54.060 Five years.

01:21:55.420 Oh, wow. Okay.

01:21:57.580 Yeah. She had a, she had a nine-year-old stepdaughter and it was, she was the coolest kid. It was

01:22:03.840 the supreme honor of my life getting to be a dad. Um, and husband, I loved every minute

01:22:11.560 of it. Like I, I loved my wife and daughter madly. Like anytime I would wake up before my

01:22:17.660 ex-wife, I would just look at her and I couldn't wait for her to wake up just so I could hear

01:22:23.780 what she was going to say and interact with her and just be, uh, do you mind if we ask

01:22:29.560 what happened? Uh, she turned out not to be the person she said she was, which was honest

01:22:39.800 and faithful. Got it. Um, have you, have you gone, um, any other routes other than the bar

01:22:48.860 and okay Cupid? Yeah. Um, I did, uh, speed dating a couple of times. Okay. How did that

01:23:00.080 go? I live in Maryland. So, uh, the first time I didn't match with anybody. There was

01:23:08.220 just nobody. Do you live in like DMV Maryland? Yeah. I live in like the Rockville, Gaithersburg,

01:23:16.200 Maryland area. Yeah. It's, it's brutal, man. It is brutal, especially, and this is, this

01:23:21.980 is when I really stopped like getting any, not any, but the attention I got on, on, on

01:23:29.580 dating websites, like just cracked, like fell off a cliff. Well, it's like, once I, you

01:23:35.580 know, I spent a lot of time in the DMV area and the biggest problem, the DMV is women here

01:23:44.000 are so career focused and then they fill up their time. So the now still, I think women

01:23:53.340 here make above average, um, salary, but they still make about 70,000, 80,000, maybe instead

01:24:01.000 of 40, 50,000, they make about 70, 80,000. So you have all these women who work 80 hours

01:24:06.160 a week. Then they have to, um, meet with their sorority sisters two days a week. And then

01:24:13.980 they have all these things going on and they're lonely. They want a man, but they don't have

01:24:18.500 the time for it. So you, and then they're in a whole bunch of debt too. Every professional

01:24:25.160 a woman, a DMV is in a bunch of debt, all of them, that person personally to me, that doesn't

01:24:33.280 matter. All right. They're asking a couple of questions about you in the chat. They want

01:24:38.820 to know if you're blue collar. Uh, yes, blue collar. And they want to know how old you are.

01:24:46.160 Um, I'm 36. Okay. So what were the other avenues? So other than, okay, Cupid the, so the speed

01:24:58.320 dating, you didn't get a match. And then did you, well, the first time I didn't get a match.

01:25:02.660 Okay. The second time I got a match and, um, it actually was, it did turn out to be she was

01:25:15.440 looking for more of like, uh, well, well-to-do well-off person, um, fancy career or whatnot.

01:25:24.660 But I maintain that it was still the original problem because so we met at a coffee shop,

01:25:32.840 DC did the speed dating thing. We matched, we went on a date and, um, I asked her, you

01:25:41.460 know, just outside. Okay. So, you know, why'd you match with me? And, uh, she just, this is

01:25:51.460 just her words, her exact words is not, but she's kind of blurted out, uh, cause you're

01:26:00.840 fine as fuck. That's what she said.

01:26:03.040 And I was, you know, for the first second, it's like, Oh, that's nice. Then I was like,

01:26:09.640 Oh, that's, that's the problem. That's the way, you know, if that's, if that's the only

01:26:15.080 reason why you matched with me, cause you, again, you think I'm hot, you want to, you

01:26:19.600 know, that's the wrong reasons. And then I think she realized and, you know, it was like,

01:26:25.140 Oh, well, you know, also, you know, I didn't have as good a conversation with anybody else.

01:26:29.980 And you really made me laugh and, you know, and she, to be fair, she was laughing a lot.

01:26:34.540 We did seem to be having a good conversation, but again, I would still argue that goes back

01:26:40.860 to, she just thought I was really attracted. She's like, your mind will craft the narrative

01:26:46.860 around what it wants. So she already thought, you know, if she was very attracted to me physically,

01:26:51.800 the rest is going to fill itself in. You know, she's going to, I'm going to be, if I'm the

01:27:01.560 hotter I am to her, the funnier I'm going to be and all the other stuff, you know, the better

01:27:05.480 the conversation is just, I don't know. I think the, the mind fills in the narrative to build

01:27:13.320 around what, you know, so, so where else have you tried? Are those the main three? Are there

01:27:23.720 any other ones? Well, I guess there's bars, there's the speed dating, there's the dating

01:27:33.560 apps. I guess that's it. I don't really know where else to go. I started going back to church.

01:27:43.080 Um, I was asking my, like, for all intents and purposes, my brother, um, you know, where

01:27:52.120 do you go to meet like a good woman, like somebody you can marry? Like, I'm not looking for hookups.

01:27:58.580 I just, you know, I want to like, I want love. And I thought he was like, just kind of messing

01:28:07.580 with me, but he was like, go back to church. You know, that's not the answer I wanted actually

01:28:12.400 at the time. I was kind of pissed off, but I started thinking about it. And for, for reasons

01:28:17.460 separate than that, uh, I ended up going back to church just because I want to be a better

01:28:22.780 Christian and, you know, uh, get back into the fold. Well, I was never in the fold, but

01:28:28.520 you know, uh, get closer to God, be a good Christian, all that stuff. I want to be a better

01:28:33.400 person. So I started going back to church and started thinking, well, maybe, you know, that

01:28:40.460 advice will pan out and maybe I'll meet some, maybe that'll be a good avenue. It's only been

01:28:46.100 like a month, you know, about church and I've met some nice people, but, uh, like I said,

01:28:51.260 I'm not going there just for the dating thing, but you know, maybe that's a perspective, maybe

01:28:56.120 that's perspective Avenue.

01:28:58.520 So, but you haven't dated anyone at church yet.

01:29:03.420 No, no. I, I, like I said, it's been like a month, like three or four times. Okay. And

01:29:07.960 it's not why I'm going, I don't expect to, I would say this, I don't expect to anything

01:29:12.740 to come of that and that Avenue, but, um, you know, maybe, uh, I've heard that, you know,

01:29:20.280 that's where you go to maybe meet a nice person. So I've heard that's where the worst women

01:29:29.980 are, but I hope your experience is better. I'm not, I'm not expecting it. I'm not going

01:29:37.600 there for that. So I meet somebody that's great. Um, well, thanks for, uh, KW says match

01:29:45.260 owns all the apps and uses bait and switch and all of them. The latest trick is hiding

01:29:49.060 matches behind a paywall that are not even in the country. Thanks KW. Well, thanks for

01:29:55.720 sharing, Justin. Um, it's really insightful. So I like to hear what's going on in the dating

01:30:00.160 field. Doug, do you have any more questions? I do not. Thanks for calling in. Just appreciate

01:30:05.160 it, buddy. Thanks for calling in. Yeah, absolutely. Have a great night. Thanks for having me.

01:30:09.740 Yeah. You too. Let me check the chat. My wife said she tried speeding dating while in her

01:30:18.060 twenties. One guy was wearing his taxi driver uniform. So funny. Nice. Um, can put in the

01:30:25.440 next guy. Okay.

01:30:28.660 What's going on. You've called them before, right? David. Yeah. Pearl. I'm a regular on

01:30:42.280 here. Yeah. How are you? Oh, I'm doing good. Um, I want to keep this brief. I'm going to

01:30:48.860 go on a little monologue here real quick. Sure. Um, just before we start, can you tell, can

01:30:53.240 you tell them your age and where you're from just to remind them? Okay. I'm 28. I'm from

01:30:58.820 North Texas. Okay. And what field are you in? Oh, I do crypto. Okay. Crypto trading Bitcoin.

01:31:04.900 Okay, cool. Monologue. Okay. So I don't mean to pick on this guy in particular, like him

01:31:11.280 specifically, but we have a big, big problem with men that are like seeking commitment.

01:31:18.460 Like that's the big, like he kept saying like, Oh, um, I want my white picket fence. You know,

01:31:24.400 I want the relation. I want the perfect relationship. I want this and that it's like, dude, like you've

01:31:30.660 got it all wrong, brother. Like whenever you really have options and like, I've been on the

01:31:36.420 dating apps, I've used all the dating apps. I've been banned on all of them because I would

01:31:40.820 get so many matches and I wouldn't respond to a lot of them. And they get really, really upset.

01:31:46.800 And when girls get upset, you know, there's that saying about a woman scorned and that and

01:31:52.940 whatever. But anyways, I've been banned on all the apps, but this, my point that I'm trying to make

01:31:58.500 is besides the dating apps, like put all that stuff away. Let's talk about what men want. Like

01:32:03.340 men today, they want these like perfect relationships with these good girls. And it's just like, this

01:32:11.220 isn't real. This isn't reality. Like y'all need to wake up. Like

01:32:15.820 We did a study, right? A study showed that 52% of men still say that serious relationships

01:32:21.100 in marriage is a priority and only 24% of women. This is under 30.

01:32:28.620 Yeah. Women don't want relationships. Like you're not finding relationships because women

01:32:33.160 don't want them with you, dude. Like you're not.

01:32:35.500 Not until they're 35 and 40 and they have kids already and they're exactly. And they're

01:32:40.160 broke and need help. But before that, you're right.

01:32:43.560 So it's like, he's, he's looking for something that doesn't even exist. And a lot of guys

01:32:49.240 are like this. I don't mean to just point him out and like, pick on him. This is like

01:32:53.220 90% of guys, Pearl. Like it's bad. You know what I mean? And I try to tell guys this and

01:32:59.860 I try to like level with them, but it's like, they think I'm an asshole and they think I'm

01:33:03.140 picking on them. And it's like, bro, like y'all just don't get it, bro. Like, like, I don't

01:33:08.700 mean to toot my own horn, but like, I have options. Like I have multiple girls that want

01:33:13.560 to spend time with me. And like, it's like, bro, none of them are like, even, even the

01:33:18.360 girls that are like lower on my scale are like, bro, they don't even want to date. They don't

01:33:22.780 even want relationships. Like, so it's just, I don't know. Like it stresses me out, but

01:33:28.440 So you don't have any women that are trying to seek commitment with you at all?

01:33:32.200 I mean, I know one's like, I had a girl that was trying to, you know, lock me down, but

01:33:38.340 it's like, I like, I don't even want that, you know, like I'm still young, you know, I'm

01:33:41.740 not, I haven't even hit 30 yet. So, I mean, I'm chilling. Like I don't, and I'm definitely

01:33:45.660 not the type of guy to like marry or any of that stuff.

01:33:50.760 David, if you think it's bad now, once you hit 35, man, I'm telling you, like, like you're

01:33:58.780 getting it, you're getting some now, but I'm telling you once, as you get older, like

01:34:03.520 you, you only get more options as you get older, bro. It's insane.

01:34:08.760 Yeah, man. It's only going to get better for me. That's why I'm not rushing a relationship

01:34:11.840 or like commitment and stuff like that. And like girls that want that with me, like, they're

01:34:15.320 going to have to show and prove. Like, I'm not the type of guy who's like, Oh, the next

01:34:19.420 girl that I get, I'm going to try to marry her. I'm going to try to, you know, go all the

01:34:23.640 way. It's her job to make you, it's her job to make you want to.

01:34:25.640 That's her job. Yes, exactly. And like guys need to get this through their heads. Like,

01:34:31.100 like if, if there's anybody who needs to wake y'all up, it's me. And like, this is your sign.

01:34:36.180 Like I'm here. This is your sign to wake up. These women do not want commitment. Like they

01:34:41.980 just don't want it. Like stop trying to, you know, have the white picket fence and do all

01:34:46.640 that stuff, bro. You're just going to be disappointed.

01:34:48.680 And, and, you know, I don't want to pick on the last guy, but he, he married a single

01:34:54.060 mom. And it's, Oh yeah. Pearl, you talk about that a lot. Like the guys who they go through

01:35:00.780 their first marriage and then they get divorced and then they all of a sudden just immediately

01:35:05.480 want to get back into a second.

01:35:06.620 I hate when I was, yeah, when I was single, I hated, I, well, I thought I would want to

01:35:11.460 date first divorced guys, but it would be like, they would be so like desperate. Like

01:35:16.760 it w it was like, they would reek of like desperation, like dying to just like, and it

01:35:21.920 was like, as a woman, you don't want that much pressure. You don't like upfront on the first

01:35:26.620 date. Like these guys would be talking about marriage before like first date.

01:35:31.060 No, it's insane. Like it literally like when that caller came on, I'm just like, bro, like

01:35:36.880 I just met you, you know, like, but I would only find that like with once divorced guys,

01:35:43.200 like never married guys. I wouldn't find that with, well, I would say. Cause, cause Pearl

01:35:48.600 is right. You either on you on opposite sides of the coin, you get divorced and you become

01:35:55.460 a simp. Well, even more of a simp and want a relationship to get married again, or you become

01:36:00.120 a red pill demon because most of the, of the red pill guys that are the most, that are

01:36:07.240 for the cause the most are usually between the age of 35 to like 47 and have been divorced

01:36:12.340 already. So sadly there's no in between you, you either what Pearl and David are talking

01:36:18.720 about, or you're literally on the other side and you're just a red pill demon.

01:36:23.900 Yeah, there is, there is someone I went on a date with and I ended up turning down cause

01:36:28.420 it just kind of, he was, it was too much. He moved in a girl like two weeks later, like,

01:36:33.600 like off of Instagram. Like, and I was, I was like, that's crazy. I don't know. I'm like,

01:36:40.220 that's too fast. It stresses me out. I don't know how y'all do this. Like pro, I don't know

01:36:44.180 how you do this, yo. It's so stressful. Like when I hear these stories, I'm just like, bro,

01:36:49.540 what is going through y'all's heads. So where are you meeting women? Like, so like just kind of to

01:36:57.020 go back to the topic a little bit, like where, cause you're 28, I'm guessing you're dating women

01:37:01.760 like five, like probably 18 to 25. Would you say? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not, I'm not really

01:37:08.820 dating any girls that are older than like, yeah, I would say 25, even 24, like 25 is kind of pushing

01:37:14.320 it even. Yeah. So where are you meeting them? I mean, most of the time, just bars, uh, since

01:37:21.520 I'm banned off dating apps, uh, I don't really have that option. I do actually, I, I am still

01:37:26.920 on one, but like, I don't like, it's one of the like dating apps where it's like not as

01:37:32.040 popular. So I don't really even, I don't even really use it anymore. But when I was on dating

01:37:36.140 apps, man, I was getting, I was getting matches like crazy. Like every week I could have something

01:37:41.400 new, but it was like, you know, there would just be these girls who like didn't meet the

01:37:46.220 requirements. And then I would like, I wouldn't unmatch with them or anything. I would just

01:37:49.760 like keep the message open. And then, you know, I'm like one day I'll just randomly get

01:37:53.960 banned. And then they're just like, Oh, email our support, blah, blah, blah. And, and try

01:37:58.860 to, you know, get your account back. And like, I emailed them. Nobody's trying to tell me nothing.

01:38:03.200 So I just assumed, you know, someone's reporting.

01:38:06.260 What pictures, what pictures did well for you on the dating apps? Like, why do you, cause

01:38:11.260 I mean, my guys are probably wondering like what set your profile apart.

01:38:16.160 Yeah. I'll, I'll give you, I'll give you the sauce on that. So, okay, guys, this is what

01:38:21.280 y'all need to do. You guys need to, first of all, you need to stop wearing like bright

01:38:26.740 colored clothing. Y'all need to stop wearing these like pastel colors and like all this

01:38:32.380 fruity looking stuff. Y'all need to like wear leather jackets and like jewelry and stuff

01:38:37.600 like that. That'll help you a lot. You also need to like either take a picture next to

01:38:42.860 like a really nice car. It doesn't even have to be your car. Just take a picture next to

01:38:46.940 a nice car. I have a motorcycle. I ride motorcycles. I ride dirt bikes. So that's my thing. And I

01:38:52.860 take pictures with like dirt bikes and stuff like that. But here's the thing. This is, this

01:38:56.420 is the biggest advice I would give to men is like, don't try to copy what another guy does.

01:39:00.580 Like do something that works for you. Like find something cool that like works for you.

01:39:04.960 And then like, you know, really dive deep into who you are as a person. Don't try to like copy

01:39:09.920 someone or like, you know, it's cool to have influences. Don't get me wrong. But like,

01:39:14.620 you can't just like directly copy people, you know, and expect to have results like that because

01:39:19.080 girls know when you're inauthentic, like they know, they can smell that. Can you give a couple

01:39:23.360 examples that maybe you're outside of your archetype, but like maybe like five examples that you'd

01:39:28.620 recommend that are different in terms of like a picture or something?

01:39:33.180 Yeah. So like another archetype that would be different from mine would be like a fisherman

01:39:38.360 or like a hunter. Okay. You know, like guys who guys who are like outdoorsy type stuff. Like

01:39:43.980 you want to project this image to women that like, you're not on the internet all day. You're not

01:39:50.180 playing video games all day. You're not like you're outside, you're doing stuff. You're a man of the

01:39:54.820 world. You're a Renaissance man. You, you have caught your cultured. You know what I mean?

01:39:58.420 Like that's what really like gets them. Like you don't even really have to like,

01:40:01.820 I don't look that good. Like I look okay. I have nice hair, but I'm scrawny. Like I'm super tall.

01:40:06.820 Like I don't fit the perfect archetype for like what these women want, but like I've owned in on

01:40:12.060 my style and like my like mannerisms and like the way I talk to people and stuff. And that helps a lot.

01:40:18.460 Like that will get you so much further than like trying to pretend to be somebody else.

01:40:22.920 Okay. So you want a picture with like a car or motorcycle, or maybe they have a truck, whatever.

01:40:29.920 Yeah. If you've got a truck or if like, let's say you have a cool dog or something like stuff like

01:40:33.660 that, you know, anything else you'd recommend? The travel pictures do it too. Women love travel

01:40:41.060 pictures. I have no idea why I'm telling you, if you have any pictures of you next to the freaking

01:40:46.760 Eiffel Tower or the Great Wall of China or something like that, post those bad boys.

01:40:52.840 They want to know.

01:40:53.680 The only thing is you might attract what we call travel leashes where like they travel all

01:40:59.820 the time. But then when, uh, if you get into a relationship with them, they want to keep

01:41:05.260 traveling, but then make you pay for it. So that's what you got to watch out with, uh, travel

01:41:10.340 pictures. They love travel pictures, guys.

01:41:12.200 They want to know how tall you are.

01:41:13.660 Yeah. I'm six, three. That helps. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to sit here and

01:41:19.220 act like that doesn't help. That helps. Um, but take pictures with other women. Do that. If you

01:41:24.700 have girlfriends, can I tell you a story? Oh my gosh. I could not. So my old employees would

01:41:32.880 always want to take pictures with me. And I like, could not figure out why, like I would get to work

01:41:37.380 and like the recruiters would be like, Pearl, I'll take a bit. I know. And then they were so weird.

01:41:42.880 They were like, well, follow me on Instagram. And one of them was so at like, and I'm just

01:41:47.040 not like, I don't use my Instagram a lot. Like it doesn't even have a big following because

01:41:51.080 it's just been deleted so many times. And this one, like took my phone and like followed

01:41:55.200 him on Instagram. And I'm like, what? And I was like, why are they so weird about this?

01:42:00.560 Cause they weren't like hitting on me or anything. And I was like, Oh, like a year later, a year

01:42:07.920 later it clicked because my friend Shiv was here and he's like, Oh, I need a picture with

01:42:11.720 you for my dating. He's like, yeah, I need a famous person following me. And like, let

01:42:18.580 me, yeah, man, that's the game. Like you really just got to like, it's, it's all about like

01:42:24.840 a perception of value. I was getting used. Thank you. I was getting most women get used

01:42:30.460 for their bodies. I got used for my clout. And what David's talking about is you gotta

01:42:39.260 get everyone's like, Oh, you're putting up a front, you're putting up a front, but you

01:42:44.120 gotta be able to get, get the woman to match your profile to meet in person. You can be

01:42:52.200 yourself. And when you get the opportunity, if when you get to the point where she swipes

01:42:56.960 on you and you match, and then you can meet in person, but a lot of guys can't even get

01:43:01.060 matches. That's the photos, man. They got to get the photos game up. That's really the

01:43:06.600 whole thing. It's the perception of value. Like with, with the internet and social media,

01:43:11.100 that's where things are headed. Like you have to have the perception that you're a high value

01:43:15.560 dude. And then once you get, but that only gets you in the door. That's only half the game

01:43:19.580 really. Like, cause once you actually meet the girl, you have to have internal high value.

01:43:23.940 And that's a completely different skillset. Someone wants to know, they're asking you

01:43:29.400 I'm five, seven. Is that why I barely get any matches? Yeah, that's probably it.

01:43:34.780 You might as well just five, seven, bro. Like, here's the thing. If I was five, seven,

01:43:39.140 what I would do is not only get in like super, super good shape and make a lot of money and

01:43:44.700 like do all the things you're supposed to do. But, you know, I would be like the funny guy,

01:43:49.640 you know what I mean? Like be the guy who's like rowdy and just like, you know,

01:43:53.320 you're bouncing off the walls and maybe you drink a lot. Like that's like,

01:43:56.920 you have a large personality. That's what you have to have. Yeah. Yep.

01:44:00.700 Or just lie on the app. Does that work? Yeah. Or just lie. I mean, man,

01:44:04.920 all scare and love and war, man. Import you one from Asia. Most Asian women are like five,

01:44:11.080 one, five, two. So, so you'll be tall over there. So, okay. So you have the,

01:44:16.600 so now is your number one way bars and is, is that it?

01:44:21.920 Yeah. Like other friends. It's like, I meet people through friends.

01:44:25.060 Do you use social media to meet women?

01:44:29.820 Uh, it's hard to say because like,

01:44:33.280 I'll use Facebook every now and then to like talk with people that like I know,

01:44:37.940 but like, as far as like my views and stuff on everything else,

01:44:41.920 like I keep my Instagram and everything else private. So nobody I know really sees

01:44:45.460 any of that. Cause like my,

01:44:46.360 like if people knew the type of stuff that I really believe in, you know,

01:44:50.160 the stuff I'm saying on the internet, they would like, it's,

01:44:53.200 it's just one of those things. Like I live in a really liberal town.

01:44:56.200 Let's just put it that way.

01:44:57.500 Okay. So if you had,

01:44:59.000 for men that want to date women between the ages of 18 to 25,

01:45:03.520 what I guess advice do you have for them or what do you think they should know?

01:45:07.420 Men internal high value because the external stuff is one thing that only will

01:45:13.400 get you in the door, but the internal is so much more important.

01:45:16.400 Like if a girl, okay, let's look, let me give you an example.

01:45:20.800 So like, let's say you're dating a girl.

01:45:22.860 Let's say you found a match on a dating app and you go on the first date with

01:45:25.800 her. Okay. You sit down, you do everything right. You know what I mean?

01:45:30.560 You, you talk with her. First of all,

01:45:33.200 you don't want to talk about anything too serious, you know,

01:45:35.760 especially on the first few dates. And then let's say you do everything right.

01:45:41.140 Like at the end of the day, you have to ask yourself, like,

01:45:43.820 what do I really want? You know?

01:45:45.800 And the problem that I see with a lot of guys is like, they just,

01:45:49.740 they want, they seeking commitment too hard. You know what I mean?

01:45:52.840 Like, and it's like, you're,

01:45:55.280 you're asking these women to do things that they don't want to do.

01:45:58.260 And it's like, that's, that's not going to help. You know,

01:46:00.420 like you just have to be you and let, like, let them come to you,

01:46:03.860 you know, like internal,

01:46:05.520 like the internal high value will get the women chasing you.

01:46:08.160 The external stuff is like, you know,

01:46:10.240 that'll get your foot in the door with a lot of chicks.

01:46:11.980 But like,

01:46:12.460 if you don't have the internal like capacity to back it all up,

01:46:15.800 then it's really nothing. Like if anything,

01:46:17.900 they'll look at you and be like, Oh, look at this guy.

01:46:20.220 So pathetic. Like, you know,

01:46:21.440 he's got all this money and all this stuff, but look at him.

01:46:23.200 He's, he's texting me three times in a row, you know,

01:46:26.540 like five minutes after we just ended the date, like end the date.

01:46:30.500 Okay. Give it some time, you know,

01:46:32.640 give her a few days where you don't text her or call her, talk to her.

01:46:36.240 You know, you got to give her some space.

01:46:37.640 Like women only will become attracted to you.

01:46:40.320 Like when there's distance,

01:46:41.540 like you can't just like be up under her all the time and expect her to like

01:46:45.680 respond to you. Cause that's just not how it works.

01:46:47.840 That would be my biggest like overarching point is the internal high value aspect.

01:46:51.900 I meant more outside of that. Like what apps are they on?

01:46:55.400 Would you say the best way to meet them is bars?

01:46:58.080 Are they on the dating apps or like, I know,

01:47:01.140 don't you guys all communicate through Snapchat?

01:47:04.140 Like all the, yeah, just social media is just such a, like,

01:47:08.100 it's such like a like synthetic way to meet people. In my opinion,

01:47:12.520 like I really thrive when I'm in real life.

01:47:15.620 Like I just thrive in like real life situations so much more than the internet.

01:47:20.740 So, you know, take that for what you will.

01:47:24.360 Okay.

01:47:26.160 Doug, do you have any other questions? Doug MPA?

01:47:29.280 I do not.

01:47:31.700 Keep doing what you're doing, buddy.

01:47:33.360 And it only gets better.

01:47:34.700 Once you hit 35, man,

01:47:36.060 like take what you're, what you're getting right now and triple it.

01:47:39.480 Oh yeah, man.

01:47:41.100 Yeah.

01:47:41.400 I appreciate what you guys do.

01:47:42.540 Like I'm loving the content.

01:47:44.000 Like I'm always tuned in.

01:47:45.220 Like I love what y'all, what y'all are doing.

01:47:47.720 Like nobody's really doing stuff like this except for, you know, a few,

01:47:51.220 you know, a few people, but I mean,

01:47:54.100 pro I love it when you kick the hornet's nest,

01:47:55.860 like you make these people so upset and it just, Oh, I love that.

01:47:59.740 Like that, that like rebellious energy is like, it's, I'm so attracted to it.

01:48:05.020 Well, thanks for calling in.

01:48:07.600 If you ever,

01:48:08.440 if you ever do want to make a YouTube channel about this stuff,

01:48:11.340 reach out.

01:48:11.840 Cause we, I'll, I'll say that to the chat too.

01:48:14.340 We do offer that as a service.

01:48:15.800 We help people offer YouTube channels.

01:48:17.540 So I think you'd be good at it actually.

01:48:20.620 You know, Hey, next time you come to Dallas, holler at me,

01:48:23.340 like let's, let's link up or something.

01:48:24.840 Let's let's cause I'm, I'm out here in Dallas.

01:48:26.860 So I know you'd be out here.

01:48:28.900 Okay.

01:48:29.600 Okay.

01:48:29.940 Well, thanks for calling in.

01:48:32.120 Yup.

01:48:32.440 I'll see y'all later.

01:48:34.340 Bye.

01:48:34.800 Have a good one.

01:48:37.440 The next one we have Aisha.

01:48:48.460 Aisha.

01:48:49.100 Hello.

01:48:50.860 Hello.

01:48:51.320 Can you hear me?

01:48:52.120 I can hear you.

01:48:53.520 You're good.

01:48:54.020 Go ahead.

01:48:54.940 So is it okay if I remain?

01:48:56.300 Um, off camera.

01:48:57.520 I just, yeah, yeah, that's okay.

01:48:58.960 Yeah, that's all right.

01:49:00.020 Um, so are you on the dating apps?

01:49:03.580 Yes.

01:49:04.100 Yes, I am.

01:49:04.960 I'm on, um, I'm on just one here, but I have, you know, great success.

01:49:09.780 I've been on it about, I would say about six months here.

01:49:14.260 Cool.

01:49:14.800 What dating app are you on?

01:49:17.240 I'm on hinge.

01:49:19.940 And it's been going well.

01:49:21.920 The women have been good looking.

01:49:23.600 You've been getting a lot of matches.

01:49:24.680 Yes, definitely.

01:49:26.900 I've kind of dived into every one of them.

01:49:29.440 And what I find is people on hinge seem to be, you know, a little bit more higher quality.

01:49:34.980 Um, you know, perhaps it's just how the user faces interacted is very Apple ask and just,

01:49:41.500 you know, like Tinder is kind of a video game, but hinge and just kind of gives that, um,

01:49:45.740 Apple ask feeling to everything.

01:49:47.120 And so far the, the quality of dates I've met on there are, are definitely, uh, better.

01:49:52.840 And what city are you in?

01:49:54.840 I was going to say, what part of the country are you in?

01:49:57.260 I'm in Florida here, um, around, uh, around the Orlando area.

01:50:02.580 Okay.

01:50:03.020 And have you found that the, are you looking for commitment right now?

01:50:06.820 Are you not?

01:50:08.280 I am looking for commitment.

01:50:09.860 I would like to get married.

01:50:11.100 Um, I know you're against it here, but you know, I, I still believe in taking the shot

01:50:17.420 here.

01:50:17.820 I, I, I'm not here to tell you what to do.

01:50:20.280 You, I'm not against, I'm not against her for it for you, you know?

01:50:24.400 Right.

01:50:25.360 Right.

01:50:25.680 Yeah.

01:50:25.960 I am looking for commitment, but I think that's the wrong mindset to have, uh, commit

01:50:31.020 because if you go on and seeking for a commitment, um, you kind of come at it the wrong end.

01:50:36.040 You come out very desperate.

01:50:37.240 So I, I always try to see it, uh, you know, always try to see if I can disqualify him, trying

01:50:42.560 to find every reason if I can disqualify him, right.

01:50:45.400 Any red flags, anything.

01:50:46.880 Cause, cause, cause given getting commitment, that's what, you know, that's what we men traditionally

01:50:51.580 give.

01:50:52.060 Um, and that's not something you should give out lightly, uh, just to anybody, but I will

01:50:56.480 say something though.

01:50:58.220 Um, you know, it seems to be a common trend here that I'm seeing with, you know, these,

01:51:03.740 these, these women on the apps there, you know, typically somebody, a normal woman gets

01:51:10.560 approached here and there and in the normal world, uh, quite a bit, but on the typical growth

01:51:15.840 I'd meet in the apps, they seem to have, you know, sometimes mental issues or, you know,

01:51:21.540 anxiety issues or some traumatic past.

01:51:24.100 That's what, that's what I've noticed.

01:51:25.160 The difference between meeting people organically versus the apps.

01:51:29.640 And where have you met people organically?

01:51:33.160 Uh, so I met them, you know, at the gym here and there, or, you know, um, at, at work or

01:51:40.720 common areas, you know, I, I try to be very active around the city.

01:51:44.220 So, and, and definitely having a mutual friend, you know, having friends to introduce you to

01:51:49.120 other friends that you think could be a match that just, you know, a warm transfer definitely

01:51:53.760 helps out there and, and having somebody vouch for you, that goes a long way.

01:51:57.500 What kind of common areas are you talking about?

01:52:01.600 Common areas, uh, for example, you know, uh, you know, kind of things that you would do

01:52:08.360 in groups, right?

01:52:09.160 So running clubs, uh, you know, Brazilian jujitsu, self-defense classes here and there.

01:52:15.540 So you just kind of go and, you know, things that you already have an interest in, you try

01:52:19.380 to find somewhere local where people are interested in that area and that field.

01:52:23.520 So that way it doesn't come off artificial.

01:52:25.880 It's definitely, and you'll be much more interested in that, in that particular field.

01:52:30.400 How has running clubs been?

01:52:31.800 I've heard that.

01:52:32.560 I mean, that was in the article.

01:52:33.740 That was the new thing.

01:52:34.620 So is that something you attend to like weekly or like, you know what I could talk about

01:52:39.900 that real fast guys, 70%, 70 to 80% of people at running events, five Ks, 10 Ks and half

01:52:47.860 marathons or women, you will get more action showing up to five Ks on a Saturday morning

01:52:55.100 than you will Friday night at the club.

01:52:57.900 I know I've run 52 half marathons in my life and I don't know how many five Ks.

01:53:03.840 Uh, in 10 Ks, especially if you travel for runs, guys, I'm telling you, you want to meet

01:53:10.200 quality women, get some running shoes because 70 to 80% of people at five Ks, 10 Ks and half

01:53:18.680 marathons are women.

01:53:20.180 And there are, most of them are in shape because they run.

01:53:23.000 Have you had the same experience?

01:53:26.180 Yes, absolutely.

01:53:27.220 I had a great experience because those kinds of things typically tend to be a social issue

01:53:32.820 there.

01:53:33.200 You know, people really come in there because they don't really have much to do on that

01:53:35.880 day and they want to meet new people.

01:53:38.040 You know, running is just activity that happens being that day, but it tends to be mostly

01:53:41.580 all women.

01:53:42.900 And, and I definitely had a good experience there.

01:53:45.760 You know, another thing that I'm looking to try is some sort of salsa dancing class or,

01:53:52.360 or club, um, that's very popular here.

01:53:55.280 And I have a friend that does, and he has very, very good success meeting women, women

01:53:59.300 there.

01:53:59.980 Um, so that's something that I'm looking forward to trying.

01:54:03.240 And out of the three places you mentioned, you said Brazilian jujitsu run club, um, through

01:54:09.800 friends and dating apps.

01:54:12.360 What would you say is the highest quality women?

01:54:15.220 Like the youngest, best looking and least mental issues.

01:54:21.200 Definitely.

01:54:21.600 The apps have the most mental issues.

01:54:23.280 I would say that, I will say that, you know, you always, you know, you always want to make

01:54:28.600 sure you take a look at their cabinet door and see there's nothing in there that, you

01:54:32.080 know, you see a bunch of bottles with stuff that you can't pronounce.

01:54:36.780 You better.

01:54:37.460 Yeah.

01:54:38.380 And you want to check guys before, if a girl takes you back to her house and she wants to

01:54:44.000 smash, excuse yourself to the bathroom and check that medicine cabinet before you smash.

01:54:50.660 These are busy.

01:54:51.580 You don't want to dive into anything full of a psych meds.

01:54:54.440 You got to look for, you got to look for herpes medication too.

01:54:59.960 To double check.

01:55:01.420 Oh God, God, sorry.

01:55:04.320 Most definitely.

01:55:05.380 That's something I definitely recommend, but.

01:55:10.060 I'm sorry, go ahead.

01:55:11.140 But, um, but as it's to say the, the most high quality I would say is definitely a friend

01:55:17.280 referral.

01:55:17.740 Cause, um, like I said, that warm transfer gives a long way.

01:55:20.700 And, you know, if you have a good friend, he's obviously going to vouch for you.

01:55:23.580 So the, you know, normally the, the defense is on, on the, on the, on the, on the friend

01:55:28.860 side is going to be substantially less.

01:55:31.220 Okay.

01:55:32.960 And have you ever, have you run into any challenges of dating women and run clubs?

01:55:37.160 Like, is there ever drama or.

01:55:39.840 You know?

01:55:41.360 Yeah.

01:55:41.680 Well, you definitely don't want to be known as, you know, that, that reason you're there

01:55:45.680 for.

01:55:45.980 So if you're going to go out and you got to go definitely tackle, you know, one, one

01:55:49.280 woman at a time, you can't, you can't, you know, talk to 10 of them at the same day.

01:55:54.780 You know, it's, it's going to be, you know, you definitely got to, it's all about reputational

01:55:59.240 control.

01:55:59.840 So one at a time.

01:56:01.500 And, um, my experience is if you're, you know, if you're a, if you're a somewhat attractive

01:56:08.120 man, especially if you're tall, um, you, you show up to run events, you don't even have

01:56:14.040 to approach women.

01:56:15.520 You just have to show up, do a good run and just stay and smile.

01:56:21.460 I'm dead serious.

01:56:22.520 They come up to you.

01:56:23.620 So that's how you avoid being seen as, as that guy, because if you keep showing up

01:56:29.660 single long enough, because most guys who do show up, um, are either, are either in

01:56:36.540 relationships or they're gay.

01:56:38.060 So if they find out that you're neither one of those, you don't have to approach any women

01:56:42.680 at all, but they'll come up to you.

01:56:44.760 Um, I'm going to read super chats really quick.

01:56:47.420 Just, um, sometimes they have questions for the callers.

01:56:50.660 Um, it's ironic in the age where women make more money than they ever have in human history

01:56:56.520 is when they have the highest financial demands for men.

01:56:59.080 And the question is, they want to know your height.

01:57:03.220 My height is five, seven.

01:57:04.500 Um, and you haven't found that to be a problem on the dating apps at all?

01:57:09.860 No, not at all.

01:57:11.160 Um, honestly, uh, I didn't really consider it an issue until, you know, I, I really haven't

01:57:18.940 had much issue with it.

01:57:20.220 I don't come about it.

01:57:21.360 So I feel very confident in myself.

01:57:23.680 Um, you know, obviously I, I'm, I'm Hispanic.

01:57:27.720 So I typically, I date Latinas, so they're naturally smaller than, you know, shorter

01:57:31.900 than me, but, um, but no, typically it doesn't seem to be the issue really.

01:57:37.320 What's your mile pace, uh, at your run clubs?

01:57:40.900 Um, it's, it's nothing crazy.

01:57:45.240 It's nothing crazy.

01:57:46.240 Um, to be honest, eight minute, nine minute, somewhere around there, to be honest.

01:57:51.880 Yeah.

01:57:51.900 Because if you, you can, you can get past your height in a run club.

01:57:56.660 If you run fast, that's a good tip.

01:58:00.780 Yeah.

01:58:02.260 If you get to like the seven minute mark, like these people will see how hard people, they

01:58:08.520 recognize the hard work.

01:58:10.260 So if you can get, I mean, you're fast right now, but if you get like really fast, you don't

01:58:16.280 have to worry about your height in a run club.

01:58:19.680 Gotcha.

01:58:20.280 Gotcha.

01:58:20.640 I mean, I don't know if it's never really been an issue for me.

01:58:23.140 I, I think it's really just how you carry yourself and, you know, the confidence you

01:58:27.420 have in yourself.

01:58:28.740 So definitely it's really much a mindset to have.

01:58:32.540 And you, you know, and women, women typically have a, a really good sense of, you know,

01:58:38.520 knowing if a man's about it or not.

01:58:42.940 So, you know, I would definitely would not recommend this for, you know, beginners, definitely

01:58:47.380 work on yourself.

01:58:48.580 You know, I'm definitely in shape.

01:58:50.240 I would, I would definitely not do this if you're not at least like somewhat fit here.

01:58:55.360 Yeah.

01:58:56.960 Okay.

01:58:57.960 Do you have any other questions, Doug MPA?

01:59:00.740 I do not.

01:59:01.920 Thank you for calling.

01:59:03.100 Yeah.

01:59:03.260 Thanks so much for calling.

01:59:04.640 Yeah.

01:59:05.140 Yeah.

01:59:05.420 Call in any time.

01:59:06.380 Okay.

01:59:06.700 Thank you, bro.

01:59:08.460 Thank you.

01:59:09.400 Bye-bye.

01:59:09.920 Bye.

01:59:11.520 Fazal says, there are two things I don't do on the elevator, farting in the elevator and

01:59:15.700 getting on the elevator alone with the female, unless there's another man around.

01:59:19.260 I'm glad you go to extreme lengths to protect yourself.

01:59:24.800 Let me train for six months to try to score a 304.

01:59:32.440 Yippee.

01:59:32.800 I mean, guys, don't you just want to be in shape for yourself?

01:59:37.260 Like, don't, don't you guys want to feel like hot?

01:59:42.120 I'm always excited about getting on live with Pearl.

01:59:45.260 Maybe too excited.

01:59:46.360 I don't know how to take that, but I hope that was not, I'm going to just assume that wasn't

01:59:55.820 in a weird way.

01:59:57.260 Thank you, roulette wheel.

01:59:59.320 Okay.

02:00:00.860 You can put someone, who else is next?

02:00:04.920 What?

02:00:06.080 Yeah, you can put them on.

02:00:07.180 Hey, Zach, what's going on?

02:00:19.140 Hey, can you see me or I can hear you, but.

02:00:21.220 I can't see you.

02:00:23.560 Here we go.

02:00:24.780 Yeah.

02:00:25.000 Fresh work.

02:00:25.720 How are you?

02:00:27.820 I'm doing good.

02:00:29.000 I, uh, doing good.

02:00:31.420 It's chat is listening to your chat.

02:00:32.720 And I'm a little, like, I guess I have asked one question to start it off of the men that

02:00:37.040 have called in, which of those men would you most like, you know, most like to be essentially

02:00:42.320 because I feel like women are just kind of like, those dudes are calling in, they have

02:00:45.580 nothing going for them.

02:00:46.340 It sounds like, except for the fact that they, they, they can chase women.

02:00:48.780 So I guess that's kind of wild.

02:00:50.920 So, okay, well, that's, it's not really the topic, but you know, um, so I really just

02:00:58.040 want to know your age, your, um, where you're calling from and your experience on dating apps

02:01:03.040 or if, or, you know, if you've been meeting women elsewhere, yeah, go ahead.

02:01:09.120 Yeah.

02:01:09.560 Sorry.

02:01:09.900 Uh, I'm 30.

02:01:10.840 I live in Georgia.

02:01:12.560 Uh, I, I don't, I haven't used dating apps in a bit.

02:01:18.460 Uh, it's kind of, you said, like, you know, it's all the picture that you're, you know,

02:01:22.440 the, the picture, perfect idea that you're selling is the only thing that really seems

02:01:26.040 to be the, uh, main, I guess, driving point for getting the matches.

02:01:31.540 So I'm kind of like, that's kind of stupid.

02:01:32.560 Like, I'm not looking to sell a picture.

02:01:35.280 I'm kind of looking to find someone who's interested in what they can, you know, in their

02:01:38.700 investment.

02:01:39.800 And, uh, yeah.

02:01:42.280 Okay.

02:01:42.760 So where have you been dating and meeting women?

02:01:44.940 Uh, I just meet women at bars and, uh, that's generally about, I spent a lot of time on

02:01:52.520 the internet and I feel like I'm kind of like, you know, average man in some ways, but I have

02:01:56.560 a pretty superior drive in regards to like, you know, developing like STEM fields.

02:02:02.220 Cool.

02:02:02.720 And so it's, it's been, yeah, it's been a, uh, been a mission to get a woman to, like

02:02:06.700 you say, mathematics and they don't, they don't bet about the eye.

02:02:08.920 And it's kind of like, well, that's interesting, I suppose, because I guess the observation

02:02:14.840 I have is women seem to be, the more a man is, uh, invested with technology, women are

02:02:20.200 like, no, no, you're invested with technology.

02:02:22.160 I was like, I see it was like a, like a bad thing or something.

02:02:25.220 And so they go for guys who were kind of goofy in a sense, like nothing, nothing amounting

02:02:29.160 to, like, it's kind of hard to join in a situation with like, when we're just taking those guys

02:02:33.760 in over and over, as opposed to really evaluating a man for like, what is he looking to, uh,

02:02:38.420 build, I suppose.

02:02:39.380 So are you happy with the quality of the women you've been meeting at the bars?

02:02:44.180 Like, are they attractive?

02:02:45.960 Right.

02:02:46.820 Young?

02:02:47.480 Good question.

02:02:47.820 Yeah.

02:02:47.980 So, uh, some of them are attractive.

02:02:50.200 I'd say probably about one in like 25 or so are pretty attractive, but generally they,

02:02:58.140 they have like some kind of, uh, hangup around aspects of like technology as being like a

02:03:05.380 useful tool in any kind of way.

02:03:06.940 They're like looking for guys who are like dumbed out of it or have lived a, uh, like

02:03:11.880 a movie style life.

02:03:13.500 And they're going for, you know, just, it's just like, it's just very seemingly to me, it's

02:03:18.600 just very like divorced from reality.

02:03:21.420 What do you mean by that?

02:03:22.900 So they don't want men that like you work in technology.

02:03:26.700 So they don't like your job.

02:03:29.720 Uh, so I've been, uh, working on developing some theories in mathematics that would connect

02:03:35.420 other theories, you know, in the past, there's only been the aspect of like word of mouth,

02:03:41.460 whereas nowadays there's internet full of information.

02:03:43.020 So kind of grabbing a theory here and trying to, uh, work on different diagrammatic elements

02:03:50.200 of algorithms that I build.

02:03:51.600 Uh, so it's like, I guess.

02:03:52.980 How do these women know that you're into like tech and stuff?

02:03:55.420 Um, do you share it with them?

02:03:57.340 Yeah.

02:03:58.340 Yeah.

02:03:58.400 I mentioned to it, like, you know, this is what I'm about and why do you do that?

02:04:02.440 Um, because that's a signal that you're, you know, going to be something or potentially

02:04:06.580 anyway.

02:04:06.940 Um, because you gotta have a selective bank of information that you share with women without

02:04:15.000 them knowing who, who, who you really are and what your interests are up front.

02:04:19.040 Um, no, I hear you, I hear you.

02:04:20.720 I mean, I, I'm more interested in usually in the women who I've, I've got to know through

02:04:24.800 just like day to day life, as opposed to, I'm not really going to the bar, like putting

02:04:28.300 all of my eggs into any basket.

02:04:30.160 I might, might throw a line out here.

02:04:32.180 I'm like, okay, we'll see where that goes.

02:04:33.320 It doesn't go anywhere.

02:04:34.080 So move on to the next, uh, I like to really know a little bit about a woman before just

02:04:38.460 immediately like, well, this is the one or going into, uh, guess like, you know, casual

02:04:43.880 encounter.

02:04:44.520 So in terms of, you said day to day life, where are you meeting them?

02:04:49.160 Is it like through friends?

02:04:50.580 Is it like, is there a specific place?

02:04:54.180 Friends, uh, going to like bartenders, uh, mostly it kind of just spending the day, you

02:05:00.340 know, doing the math and then going out and have a little bit of fun at some point.

02:05:05.020 Okay.

02:05:06.760 Yeah.

02:05:07.160 I don't know.

02:05:07.680 I just wish women would put a little bit more, like I've, I've talked on clubhouse before

02:05:10.960 and had a woman say potential, like laugh their ass off about like, you're trying to

02:05:14.660 say like, Hey, you know, you have something you're working on.

02:05:17.380 It seems like a, it seems like a sellout mission.

02:05:20.840 That's not really probably going to lead anywhere when the men that you're selecting to be your

02:05:24.100 leaders are, you know, kind of just all they're concerned about.

02:05:27.680 I was like, can I live or can I die to live for some pussy?

02:05:30.080 And it's like, okay, well that's, that's great and all, but I don't think you're going

02:05:33.020 to be fulfilled at the end of the day.

02:05:33.960 Just, you know, banking on that being, I mean, I guess that's kind of the idea, right?

02:05:37.220 History wise, but I think let me should maybe take a idea of what

02:05:40.780 technology can bring.

02:05:44.180 Yeah.

02:05:44.640 I'm a little confused.

02:05:45.820 Cause I don't see women like women, like guys with big social media followings and stuff.

02:05:50.540 So I don't think women see technology as like a detriment, but maybe it's a different type

02:05:56.400 of technology, you know, that you're like, yeah, go ahead.

02:06:00.920 Yeah.

02:06:01.020 I would say different type of technology, but also the social media is like, kind of like

02:06:04.420 a, a screen, you know, it's like, it's moving, it's going through something.

02:06:07.920 So now we like, they're like saying like, they're not so much viewing it as in the sense

02:06:11.880 of like, these guys are involved with tech.

02:06:13.700 They're just like, here they are right in front of me.

02:06:14.920 Like, yeah.

02:06:16.800 Okay.

02:06:18.380 Don't ever fall for that thing where, um, cause you see on social media and on TV that women,

02:06:25.060 there are more women nerds than ever, but it's still such a small minority, but, but TV

02:06:33.880 and social media will make you think that being a nerd is okay to women.

02:06:38.800 And it's still not, it's not okay to be, to be a nerd.

02:06:43.060 Like, what do you, what do you mean?

02:06:44.100 Because like, I mean, there's so many scales, there's so many scales to what you're referring

02:06:46.920 to.

02:06:47.520 And like, you know, you can be like, well, I'm not a nerd, but you're not in the streets

02:06:50.720 either.

02:06:50.940 So it's kind of a different ballgame, like you might be like, I'm not a nerd, but you

02:06:53.500 can't go anywhere you want.

02:06:55.040 Well, so like, you know, I consider myself a nerd, you know, but my background noise

02:06:59.460 is like Star Trek.

02:07:01.460 I love the next generation.

02:07:03.260 I love DS9.

02:07:04.480 I love Star Trek Voyager.

02:07:05.880 I don't like the new stuff, but like Star Wars and stuff like that.

02:07:09.500 But I just don't share it with the women that I date.

02:07:12.320 I don't say I like Star Wars off the bat.

02:07:14.040 Why would I do that?

02:07:14.880 Like most women still don't like Star Wars.

02:07:17.780 And now that's also very different though.

02:07:19.360 Like Star Wars doesn't lead anywhere.

02:07:20.500 It's like, it's like, I'm not saying I'm into Yu-Gi-Oh!

02:07:23.120 So women are like, oh, fuck.

02:07:24.280 Well, no, no, but I'm using that as an example.

02:07:28.160 The most prevalent.

02:07:29.760 No, but what I'm saying is I'm using that as an example as to not, not overshare about

02:07:35.900 your interest in technology and what you're doing.

02:07:38.840 Find other ways that'll show you your potential and your interest besides talking about tech

02:07:45.500 because most women still don't like it.

02:07:47.480 It sucks, but it's true.

02:07:50.220 No, I hear you.

02:07:50.720 I mean, but like, don't we should probably like maybe bridge that gap so women don't keep

02:07:54.760 selecting like, no, you can't, you can't change women.

02:07:59.920 No, man.

02:08:00.520 You can't.

02:08:01.220 It's not your problem.

02:08:02.100 I hear you.

02:08:03.980 I hear you.

02:08:04.400 I mean, I don't know.

02:08:05.200 I mean, it's set up for a terrible future.

02:08:07.060 Then they, I mean, that's like, that's like me telling guys not to like big tits.

02:08:11.180 Like, it's just not going to happen.

02:08:13.200 You know, that's like me saying guys, don't be blinded by big tits and a big ass.

02:08:19.600 It's like, don't be, in one sense, in that like, like, don't, don't get always been evaluated

02:08:25.980 generally.

02:08:26.600 I would say on like, what are they developing as opposed to just being like, who are you?

02:08:31.620 And so nowadays it's like a whole flip.

02:08:33.680 It's like, well, who are you?

02:08:34.780 You know, I want to get to know you.

02:08:35.680 No, we just like, we just never leave high school.

02:08:38.380 We just like the popular guy.

02:08:40.680 It's true.

02:08:41.360 Yeah.

02:08:41.760 It's like, yeah.

02:08:43.000 It's like, we want the, as soon as women got the chance to not pick men for resources,

02:08:49.200 we bounced.

02:08:51.020 So as soon as we could pick muscles popular, that's what we did.

02:08:55.340 So, and so like, isn't that kind of a full mission though?

02:08:58.300 Yeah.

02:08:58.600 If you're thinking of it from a guy, we're not logical.

02:09:01.080 You can't like logic women into liking men they don't like.

02:09:03.980 But at the same time, it's like resources aren't just going out of style.

02:09:06.860 It's like there's different resources.

02:09:09.260 Well, women don't need it anymore.

02:09:11.180 I mean, there's some bullshit HR job.

02:09:13.460 There's absolutely many resources that women need.

02:09:15.600 And that's what I'm confused around.

02:09:17.240 It's like, so you're just going to.

02:09:18.600 Not really.

02:09:19.640 If women care about resources, they don't, they don't care about how you get it.

02:09:24.880 So you don't have to talk about how you get resources.

02:09:28.000 Just show them that you have it.

02:09:29.820 Like, don't talk about work and your interests.

02:09:33.480 If it's, if it's something that, that attractive women don't want to hear,

02:09:37.620 because you can end up talking yourself out of a situation that could be leading somewhere.

02:09:44.040 Yeah.

02:09:44.340 That's good.

02:09:44.920 And also women don't really need, I mean, like I've talked to you.

02:09:49.740 There's much that women do actually need from men in regards to technology.

02:09:53.320 Like this, the world's not solved.

02:09:54.840 Like if you want to just die and get old, I mean, I guess, or get old and die.

02:09:57.940 I know, but wait, wait.

02:09:59.620 Okay.

02:09:59.900 So again, but my point is that women can get a bunch of debt and just declare bankruptcy.

02:10:06.340 Boom.

02:10:06.700 Get out of jail free cards.

02:10:07.960 They can go get on government benefits.

02:10:09.960 Boom.

02:10:10.360 They can go get divorced.

02:10:11.880 So they can, they can marry a guy and then, or, or they don't even have to get married.

02:10:16.160 They can just get a kid off of them.

02:10:17.640 Child support.

02:10:18.540 Boom.

02:10:18.880 Don't need your resources.

02:10:19.900 Get, get some bullshit, some bullshit HR job where you don't even do much and you just

02:10:26.300 like do meetings all day.

02:10:28.120 Boom.

02:10:28.740 Only fans.

02:10:29.420 Boom.

02:10:29.780 All of them lead to the same end game pretty much.

02:10:31.380 Right.

02:10:31.560 Like, like money, money, money's good, but it's not the main resource.

02:10:34.660 It's kind of like the crypto guys.

02:10:35.640 Like they're like, fuck it, man.

02:10:37.000 I mean, crypto.

02:10:37.660 It's like that, that was, that's the investment.

02:10:39.360 That's investment that's been around for women, you know, thousands or millions of years.

02:10:42.360 It just goes back to popularity and like muscles.

02:10:45.120 Like, that's why all of our, all of our movies that we watch are women picking between money

02:10:51.000 and like what we would say love.

02:10:52.620 So it's like Jack, like the, like Titanic, right?

02:10:56.500 The, like the Rose was like 90 talking about some fling she had with this hot, broke guy

02:11:02.260 and that she left the money, right?

02:11:05.400 The notebook, it's the same thing.

02:11:06.920 It was her high school hot boyfriend and she was engaged.

02:11:09.760 That's fantasy though.

02:11:10.400 Like that's fantasy in a sense, right?

02:11:12.020 I know, but it speaks to, but it's not, it speaks to female psychology because that's

02:11:17.260 generally what women have to pick from.

02:11:19.920 Like the guys we're attracted to or the guys that'll stick up.

02:11:23.300 We don't, that's, that's generally what women have to pick from the guys that we're attracted

02:11:28.500 to or the guys that stick around.

02:11:30.260 If we find both, it's very rare and we usually can't lock it down because everyone wants it.

02:11:35.980 Next time you go out with a girl, dating app or otherwise, let her talk the whole time.

02:11:45.860 Ask her questions about her and let her talk about herself.

02:11:49.720 Sure.

02:11:50.600 I mean, yeah.

02:11:51.100 I'm dead serious, man.

02:11:52.080 It works.

02:11:53.480 It works.

02:11:54.440 Barely say anything about you.

02:11:56.880 Maybe answer your question.

02:11:58.260 It would be as most of the time women want to talk about themselves.

02:12:02.160 So just learn how to keep them talking about themselves.

02:12:05.780 It works.

02:12:06.620 I'm telling you, ask them about themselves and have them talk about.

02:12:09.760 Now you have to get used to hear a woman talk about herself and your BS for an hour or two

02:12:14.520 at a time.

02:12:15.280 That's the hardest part.

02:12:16.640 I'm telling you, you don't want to talk yourself out of something that could be going somewhere.

02:12:22.100 Yeah.

02:12:22.320 So basically it's what you're both saying essentially that like, and this is what I'm getting from

02:12:26.140 it, is that like, if you're an outlier, you're kind of possibly removed from like gaining

02:12:31.320 any benefits in that until it's like already kind of became a more relevant sort of factor.

02:12:36.980 Wait, say that again.

02:12:38.880 Like, so, you know, I guess I'm saying like, if you give me the choice of being very strong

02:12:43.180 or very intelligent, I'm going to choose very intelligent because of the times we're

02:12:45.820 living in.

02:12:46.560 And so I'm saying is like, if you're out there in that category, would that be a scenario

02:12:51.200 where you're just kind of like out of the loop basically?

02:12:52.880 Well, just because that's what you would pick, it doesn't mean that's what women would

02:12:58.520 pick.

02:13:00.380 Yes, but it's not kind of objective in the sense of like nowadays technology is much more

02:13:05.020 valuable than a set of muscles.

02:13:06.760 I mean, I don't know.

02:13:07.800 No, no, not to women.

02:13:09.480 Like again, you're thinking for like a logic, you're thinking like a man, but to women, not

02:13:16.900 at all.

02:13:18.780 I mean, I can't change all the opinion.

02:13:20.160 I suppose that's a said and done.

02:13:22.440 I want to, wait, hold on.

02:13:23.700 I want to show this TikTok in a second because I think that's very.

02:13:27.360 I mean, but I guess my point.

02:13:30.960 Where did he go?

02:13:32.120 Hold on.

02:13:32.620 I get that you have to be an outlier in this regard, but technology is going to take you

02:13:35.840 a lot farther than I guess like a trust fund, trust fund kid with a set of muscles who's

02:13:42.300 not being fulfilled in life or not going to be fulfilled by the end of it all.

02:13:44.660 And I don't know.

02:13:45.680 I mean, I guess you could be fulfilled in some regards otherwise, but if you have a guy that

02:13:50.740 has a successful technology company built it from the ground up, but then you have a

02:13:56.060 guy who has a trust fund.

02:13:59.520 Women don't care how you got there, bro.

02:14:02.680 They just don't.

02:14:03.400 I'm not thinking of a technology company.

02:14:06.500 I'm saying being in control of the means for things that are technological based upon life

02:14:11.120 itself.

02:14:11.600 I'm not saying like I want to make a billion dollars.

02:14:13.940 Like that seems like a little bit small for eyes nowadays.

02:14:15.440 I mean, how many billionaires are out there?

02:14:16.860 How many billions does the top have?

02:14:18.840 Like hundreds of them.

02:14:19.620 So it's not about like really just like how like what money can I get?

02:14:24.120 Money is kind of a dead game.

02:14:25.180 I think.

02:14:25.580 I mean, if you're still playing for money, I mean, shit, like I wouldn't want to.

02:14:29.580 OK, I want to I want to show something that I feel like is relevant.

02:14:34.780 Can we share my screen?

02:14:37.300 OK, wait.

02:14:38.040 So let me.

02:14:39.520 What advice would you give to guys to get laid?

02:14:41.680 I think the best thing you could do is just lie, bro.

02:14:43.920 Just lie.

02:14:44.480 Lie about your job.

02:14:45.360 Lie about your betting.

02:14:46.460 Just lie.

02:14:51.820 What advice would you give to guys to get laid?

02:14:54.580 I think the best thing you could do is just lie, bro.

02:14:56.460 And the top comments are agree because they're going to lie to you first.

02:15:01.100 If you're telling a woman the truth, you're actually trolling about yourself.

02:15:05.140 This is top tier advice.

02:15:08.500 Anyways, I just thought it was relevant to this conversation.

02:15:13.280 There's just always a difference between what should be and what is.

02:15:18.860 And you just got to reconcile that, man.

02:15:20.680 Like you what you're talking about, there's no disagreement here.

02:15:26.020 What you're saying would be nice.

02:15:28.960 But it's just not going to happen that way, especially the kind of women that you would want, you know, that are attractive and that you would find attractive and want to have on your arm.

02:15:39.800 They don't give a dang.

02:15:41.620 They just don't.

02:15:42.260 They don't care.

02:15:42.860 And the thing is, it's like, again, you know, it's the same thing as like women asking men not to give special treatment to women that are attractive.

02:15:53.680 Like you guys do.

02:15:54.580 You always will.

02:15:55.620 Like if they're like, you know, there was a girl on my team that had huge boobs, but she was a big bitch.

02:16:00.240 But all the guys, like they loved her and guys did date her, even though she was a bitch because she was hot.

02:16:07.260 Like, what am I going to do?

02:16:08.740 Get mad?

02:16:09.560 Like, that's the game.

02:16:10.820 Yeah.

02:16:11.500 So just look at what look at what is, because if you look, if you keep focusing on what should, you're just not going to get anywhere.

02:16:20.220 But you should keep working on your grind and what you're doing 100 percent.

02:16:24.740 But you got to separate that away from women and there's going to be a time where there's more tangibles, where you have more to show and you can talk about it or something.

02:16:34.700 But just right now, man, just keep it to yourself.

02:16:36.860 And just once again, when you're out on a deal with a girl, just keep her talking about her, man.

02:16:42.820 Absolutely.

02:16:43.380 All right.

02:16:43.700 Appreciate y'all.

02:16:44.200 Thanks for calling.

02:16:44.860 Thanks, Zach.

02:16:46.680 All right.

02:16:47.820 We'll do another caller.

02:16:54.740 Hello.

02:17:09.420 Hey, Pearl.

02:17:10.180 How's it going?

02:17:11.020 I'm good.

02:17:11.600 How are you?

02:17:13.180 Well, doing well.

02:17:14.760 Not feeling on camera today?

02:17:18.420 Yeah.

02:17:19.020 One second.

02:17:19.500 I could actually probably put it.

02:17:22.720 How's it going?

02:17:25.440 Where are you calling out of?

02:17:26.460 You've called in before, haven't you?

02:17:28.820 I've called in before.

02:17:31.840 I'm 27, calling out of D.C.

02:17:35.060 Oh, cool.

02:17:35.980 So are you on the dating apps?

02:17:38.400 I am actually not on the dating apps.

02:17:41.140 I got off the dating apps probably about two years ago now.

02:17:44.900 I mean, the main reason was because when I was on the dating apps, I realized I had less

02:17:52.160 of a tendency or less of a desire to actually interact with women in person.

02:17:58.280 You know, I think us all as guys usually have, you know, that fear of rejection that

02:18:04.360 we all have to overcome at some point, specifically when it comes to dating.

02:18:08.020 And I realized that while I was on the dating apps, I wasn't taking the initiative and the

02:18:14.980 opportunities that I had presented to me in person.

02:18:17.460 So I would say my dating life got a lot better after I got off the dating apps.

02:18:22.540 Okay.

02:18:22.960 And where do you meet women now?

02:18:28.220 That's a good question.

02:18:29.340 So for me personally, the best place has been the gym.

02:18:32.060 Um, I spent a lot of time there, work out every day.

02:18:35.700 Uh, so I definitely met a lot of girls just from, um, meeting them at the gym.

02:18:41.160 And again, I'm not, I know since I am a regular there, I'm pretty careful about, um, you know,

02:18:47.600 the women that I approach and how I do it.

02:18:49.820 Um, you know, I go to at a, at a bunch of different times too.

02:18:52.960 I scheduled all of them.

02:18:53.660 Yeah.

02:18:53.680 Be very careful, man.

02:18:55.240 You don't want to, you don't want to ruin your, um, your gym piece.

02:18:59.600 Like as in like peace at the gym by hitting on the wrong girl, man, because I had that

02:19:05.900 happen when I was young, you hit on the wrong girl, it turns into, into something.

02:19:09.700 And then your whole gym experience has messed up because I, that was back in my 20s.

02:19:14.460 So watch out, man, be careful in the gym.

02:19:16.900 Yeah, no, I agree.

02:19:18.000 And I would second that.

02:19:19.320 Um, yeah, for me, like I have a couple of different gym memberships as well.

02:19:23.240 Um, and again, like when I do interact, have these interactions with girls, it's usually

02:19:27.580 off of something I'm not usually just approaching to go into the kill.

02:19:31.180 I'm usually asking about, um, well, it's funny.

02:19:34.180 Cause like, you can tell kind of if a girl's possibly finds you attractive, you'll get

02:19:39.180 like, maybe a look, maybe you're something, maybe sometimes you don't, but if you just

02:19:42.900 ask something like, Hey, um, how are those shoes to work out?

02:19:46.500 And I literally asked the girl that the other day, um, it's an easy way to start a conversation

02:19:50.740 kind of, it can sometimes be something dumb.

02:19:53.540 Um, and you can tell right off the bat, it's like, okay, this girl's pretty receptive.

02:19:57.920 She's possibly interested.

02:19:59.200 And then you can progress from there.

02:20:01.100 But yeah, I agree.

02:20:02.000 You definitely don't want to, you know, just go in for the kill immediately.

02:20:05.120 It's not like a nightclub.

02:20:06.480 And so what do you suggest for guys?

02:20:08.580 Like what time of day is the best?

02:20:11.380 Um, so that's, that's a great opener.

02:20:14.340 Like, yeah, I mean, yeah, I would say definitely daytime.

02:20:19.140 I'm, I'm, I'm big on daytime approaching, uh, just for me personally, I've done the whole

02:20:24.100 nightclub thing.

02:20:24.800 I've done the dating apps.

02:20:26.360 Um, I've had somewhat success, uh, in both of those avenues, but I think there's a lot

02:20:33.360 that sets you apart and really what's going to set guys apart that want to date in that

02:20:38.320 age range that we were talking about earlier, 18 to 25.

02:20:42.080 Um, I, I really think is the ability to, um, have an in-person interaction during daytime.

02:20:47.560 I think that's something that a lot of women don't come across.

02:20:52.840 Um, I agree with that a hundred percent, uh, right?

02:20:57.020 We said that because I, I think that the younger women expect to be approached at night, but

02:21:02.080 not during, I think a lot of younger modern women it's, it's feast or famine is either

02:21:08.640 they don't get approached at all or they get approached all the time.

02:21:11.460 And when they get approached all the time, it's not during the day at all.

02:21:14.560 So yeah, I'd agree with you a hundred percent.

02:21:17.820 That's really good advice.

02:21:18.820 So, so you would say at the gym or maybe out and about during the day, approach a woman

02:21:24.600 in public.

02:21:26.320 Yeah.

02:21:26.780 A hundred percent.

02:21:27.580 I know it's good advice, but that's really what's going to set you apart.

02:21:32.060 And especially like, I'm in my late twenties.

02:21:34.220 So like, um, even if you are in your thirties and you're trying to date younger women, it's

02:21:39.040 like, if you can have a good, normal interaction, you know, laugh, smile, be normal, show that

02:21:44.780 you're not a creep and just, you know, make it casual.

02:21:47.920 I think that's the best way.

02:21:49.120 And then you can move in from there.

02:21:50.260 There's a lot of times where I'll approach an interaction, have a conversation with the

02:21:54.540 girl and, you know, maybe I'm not necessarily getting the vibe that she's particularly interested

02:21:59.920 in talking to me.

02:22:00.640 And then it's just like, you know, have a good day.

02:22:02.880 Like there's not, I'm not actually still following through on the intent.

02:22:06.420 Um, but I think the biggest first step is just like getting used to having those daily

02:22:09.820 interactions.

02:22:10.940 Um, I want to, have you noticed that because I've noticed women under 30, especially with

02:22:16.760 the advent of social media, um, they, they just don't dress presentable in public during

02:22:25.800 the day because I've, I've approached women and you know, you're like, Hey, you want to

02:22:32.020 get dinner sometime?

02:22:33.320 And then when you pick them up, you're like, wow, you look, but they look good.

02:22:37.900 So the dress up for pictures on social media and stuff, but like out and about during the

02:22:44.400 day, they're wearing like flip-flops and, and, and, um, and, and Crocs and stuff.

02:22:50.300 Has that been your experience too?

02:22:53.460 Yeah, no, I would say that's, that's pretty true.

02:22:55.900 Um, and I think that, when did that start happening?

02:22:58.740 I don't even know when that started happening.

02:23:01.140 Yeah.

02:23:01.540 I think that can play in your favor and not like there are some girls like, you know,

02:23:05.180 that might've just rolled out of bed and they're trying to go to the pharmacy to pick

02:23:09.140 something up before a work meeting.

02:23:11.000 And they're really not trying to talk to anybody and it's probably not the best time

02:23:14.080 to approach them.

02:23:15.120 But that's really also why I do like the gym setting.

02:23:17.840 Um, because you know, if you're into girls that are in shape and work out, like, you know,

02:23:22.200 women know that when they go to the gym, they're going to be around a lot of

02:23:25.100 guys, um, that are hopefully easily attracted in their eyes.

02:23:29.280 Um, so they're usually, even if, even though they are in athletic clothing and

02:23:32.380 they're not like in a dress or super dressed up, um, you know, they're kind of, they're,

02:23:37.380 I guess they're physically prepared in the sense of being put together, um, for, uh, you

02:23:43.020 know, opposite sex interruption.

02:23:45.240 And what do you say about women that wear full makeup to the gym?

02:23:50.280 Is that a red flag or no?

02:23:52.420 That's a good question.

02:23:54.140 Um,

02:23:55.100 Yeah, I mean, actually I would say that's a red flag.

02:23:59.200 Like if she's like overdoing it, um, that definitely is a red flag because, you know,

02:24:04.220 especially in that younger eighth bracket, um, you know, there are a lot of girls that

02:24:08.200 just are there for attention.

02:24:10.060 Um, but again, just overall with the, uh, in-person during the day, like I would say

02:24:16.980 the biggest thing is just like the opportunity you have to be like high quality women.

02:24:21.600 Um, so, so real quick, the top three things to look for, for a woman to approach in the

02:24:28.800 gym.

02:24:29.020 Um, so how do you, how do you pick out a woman to approach, like what are the top three things?

02:24:33.020 Yeah.

02:24:34.020 Number one, definitely always, I always say this, you want to make sure that she's not

02:24:37.520 there with another guy.

02:24:38.440 Um, thankfully I haven't had it that run in, but I'm always like conscientious of like,

02:24:44.240 okay, have I seen this girl with a guy before?

02:24:47.280 Um, because that's the last thing you want to do is like, I mean, for a lot of reasons,

02:24:52.700 you just don't want, you just don't want to do that.

02:24:54.560 Um, so that's one thing to definitely look out for.

02:24:57.120 Uh, number two, I would say, you know, body language is big.

02:25:02.700 If she's always had her head down, um, never really looking around, um, you don't see her

02:25:08.200 interacting with other people.

02:25:09.500 Um, you know, there's, it's not necessarily one of those things, but more so a combination

02:25:14.380 of all those things, uh, she's probably not open to the talking and then, uh, number three.

02:25:22.420 Yeah.

02:25:22.820 I mean, I would say just a girl that's not just doing the most, uh, I think most guys

02:25:27.920 like low key attractive girls.

02:25:29.760 Like, yes, we like some, like it's hot to physically look at a girl that's wearing like

02:25:34.140 a big pushup bra or something.

02:25:35.500 Um, but also at the same time, like you want a girl that's like not dressed or wearing a

02:25:40.700 full face of makeup, trying to get as much attention as possible.

02:25:43.880 You just want someone that's like down to earth, normal, um, you know, kind of the same

02:25:48.780 vibe that you're on.

02:25:50.820 And what, so you said a daytime, what time of day do you recommend for men?

02:25:57.720 Like noon one?

02:26:00.160 Yeah.

02:26:00.560 I mean, I think as early as that would be great.

02:26:02.940 Um, I, I go to the gym sometimes in the morning.

02:26:06.880 I'll be honest.

02:26:07.400 I haven't had too many interactions in the morning.

02:26:09.720 Um, but I would say, yeah, my sweet spot for me is, uh, either right before or right

02:26:15.100 after lunchtime.

02:26:16.060 So that's like, yeah, around noon to two o'clock.

02:26:19.620 Um, I've definitely found myself, uh, getting in a couple of good interactions.

02:26:24.860 So, um, and also like if you're, if you're in your head about it and you're like, oh, there's

02:26:30.280 this girl at the gym that I want to approach, um, like you don't want to do it when you're

02:26:35.980 too in your head, but also like use other opportunities that you have in front of you

02:26:40.220 to warm up.

02:26:40.820 So like, if you know a guy at the gym, um, or even the person at the front desk that

02:26:45.280 checks you in, like try to have a conversation with them before, like get your social juices

02:26:49.000 flowing.

02:26:50.100 Um, because again, the number one thing I think when you're approaching women in the gym is

02:26:54.400 to be casual, be normal.

02:26:56.520 Like you don't want to put her on the spot too much, you don't want to just go in directly

02:26:59.760 for the kill.

02:27:00.800 You need to be able to hold at least a five, I would say at least a five minute interaction

02:27:05.100 just about working out about even the weather.

02:27:08.540 I don't care, but you don't want to just, uh, you know, go in all nervous and shaky and

02:27:13.660 asking for your social media.

02:27:15.220 Um, that's probably not.

02:27:17.360 And where else have you approached women?

02:27:20.340 Is it just the gym or are there other places in person you'd recommend?

02:27:25.220 Yeah.

02:27:25.700 Uh, I would say shopping malls are, I mean, I want to say, be careful with the malls.

02:27:31.920 I mean, be careful with the gyms too, but, uh, I think the mall, I mean, you don't have

02:27:36.280 to be too careful with them.

02:27:37.100 I think a mall is a good place just to practice even.

02:27:40.080 Um, but I have, I mean, I haven't like necessarily gone there to practice, but I've had, uh, you

02:27:46.820 know, conversations and like, uh, or approached a girl in like a target or a shopping mall.

02:27:53.200 Um, and it's, I, I just like to take the, I always like to take the more indirect approach

02:27:58.860 of just having a casual conversation.

02:28:00.760 I know people with different theories, like, Oh, should I approach direct?

02:28:04.480 Should I just, you know, go right in, tell her, I think she's attractive and I want to

02:28:08.500 take her out.

02:28:09.100 Um, for me personally, I like to find something random to talk about and then slowly escalate.

02:28:14.580 Um, just kind of get the vibe first.

02:28:16.280 It also gives you a quicker and easier way out.

02:28:19.480 And do you have any openers that you recommend for guys?

02:28:22.780 I liked the shoe one.

02:28:24.540 Cause I think that question, I think as a woman, it's like, I'm only going to give you an in-depth

02:28:30.040 answer if I'm interested in talking to you, you know?

02:28:33.980 So, yeah.

02:28:35.020 Yeah.

02:28:35.300 No, I would say the opener definitely depends on the setting.

02:28:37.540 Um, like for example, one of my, one of my openers, um, in a club for one summer was

02:28:44.980 like, I know I'm your type.

02:28:46.740 Like I would go up to a girl and say that I wouldn't, I wouldn't say that obviously during

02:28:50.680 the day or at the gym.

02:28:51.700 Like I know I'm your type.

02:28:53.020 Um, but I think if you're trying to go the in-person route, uh, good opener, I, I just

02:29:00.600 try to find like the most, not random things, but something that could be easy to talk about

02:29:07.000 in front of things.

02:29:07.700 So like, yeah, like for example, I saw this girl with like the new Nike shoes that I was

02:29:11.160 honestly actually thinking about getting, but something like that's a good opener.

02:29:14.860 Cause you can just be like, um, Hey, how do you like those shoes?

02:29:17.860 I was looking at them at the mall yesterday.

02:29:20.680 Um, and then she'll say, yeah, I like them.

02:29:22.540 And you know, that's just kind of a normal thing to ask where it's not like the first

02:29:27.140 thing is I'm waiting to see if she's going to reject me immediately.

02:29:31.500 Um, and then, I mean, another big thing that I feel like I always ask women, because again,

02:29:37.000 I'm kind of a wide range in terms of diversity, um, of women that I'll talk to, I'd like to

02:29:42.760 try to guess their ethnicity and then have them guess mine.

02:29:45.560 Um, I probably wouldn't do that off the rip, but, um,

02:29:49.000 Yeah, I was about to say that though, do that off the rip, that would be something where,

02:29:54.680 so like at the gym, I would say, say hi, and then get to the point where you say hi enough times where

02:30:04.280 she notices you when you walk in before you say hi.

02:30:10.280 And then that's when, that's what I used to start.

02:30:12.760 So I would never start hitting on a woman right away, but I would say, Hey, how are you?

02:30:16.040 You know, you know, I saw you working out and then just say hi enough times where she,

02:30:20.120 right when you walk in or she'll come over to you and say, Oh, hi, you know, before you say,

02:30:25.400 if she starts walking up to you and saying hi to you before you say hi to her,

02:30:28.600 that's when you start hitting on her.

02:30:30.360 Yeah, no, that's a great point. And that's the second off that. Yeah,

02:30:33.240 there are some girls where I've played the long game where it's like,

02:30:37.080 even if it does go well, I'm just saying hi, you know, and then maybe the third,

02:30:41.160 fourth, fifth time I see her, we have another conversation.

02:30:45.080 That's a really safe route.

02:30:46.600 Good to play the long game, especially if you're seeing a girl recurring throughout the day.

02:30:52.920 Cool. Well, I bet you guys found that really helpful.

02:30:56.280 So thank you so much for calling in.

02:30:58.600 Yeah, of course. Great advice, man. Call back anytime. This is great.

02:31:02.440 Yeah, for sure. I'm definitely gonna call back. And then real quick,

02:31:04.920 Pearl, what were you saying about YouTube channels? I've actually been thinking about

02:31:09.080 making one myself.

02:31:10.920 Yeah. So I have like a media agency on the side. So I basically run out my editors and my producers

02:31:19.560 and like we do thumbnails, titles, like, so, and we have content strategists. So you meet with someone

02:31:24.840 like twice a month to talk about if the strategy is working or not working. So we just, we're the,

02:31:31.400 we like to work with smart, intelligent men that don't feel like learning YouTube. And so we do all

02:31:36.600 the hard stuff.

02:31:37.240 Yeah. So all you have to do is just focus on content.

02:31:40.760 Gotcha. Yeah. And if that's something someone's interested in, they're like a place to go. Just

02:31:46.280 curious.

02:31:46.680 Um, we, we're going to have a landing page soon, but otherwise just message me pearly things on

02:31:53.080 Twitter or email me just pearly things at gmail.com.

02:31:57.640 I'm good.

02:31:59.800 Cool. All right. Well, thanks so much for calling in.

02:32:02.440 Thanks bro. How's your one?

02:32:04.200 Yeah. Call back anytime, man. Great advice.

02:32:06.440 Thanks mommy. See ya.

02:32:08.360 All right. Who we got next?

02:32:16.040 Make sure you mute me. Oh, there you go. Hey Paul, how's it going?

02:32:21.960 Hey, good. How are you?

02:32:23.400 Good.

02:32:25.320 Are you getting the better lighting over here?

02:32:27.400 All right. I can see you fine. Where are you at?

02:32:30.680 Rochester, New York.

02:32:31.880 Cool. Are you on the dating apps out there?

02:32:34.600 I am. I've been divorced for eight years after 23 years of marriage. So I'm kind of an old dude,

02:32:40.200 but I got on the dating apps and I'm on hinge and there's so many weird profiles out there. See,

02:32:46.440 I'm a film producer. So I kind of look for certain signs, but there's a lot of fake AI stuff out there

02:32:53.800 too. I don't like it so much.

02:32:55.080 Okay. So where have you been meeting women? If the, or actually my first question, let me,

02:33:00.200 before I go to that, have you met any women off the dating apps?

02:33:04.280 Yeah, two actually. And we went out for coffee. It was nice. And, uh, and I'm still in touch with

02:33:09.880 them. So I don't know. I, I have a, um, interesting conundrum where I am doing this film that I'm

02:33:20.120 producing. So I meet a lot of people through that, both actors and crew, but I can't date

02:33:25.240 anybody because I'm producing the film. Cause that would be weird, but I love them afterwards.

02:33:30.440 Yeah. He saw, he saw what happened to Weinstein. He said, no, I'm not doing that.

02:33:34.360 Yeah. He said, not today. Not a good idea. It's like, actresses stay away from me.

02:33:41.480 Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. There's one lady though, that just wrapped with the picture with us

02:33:45.640 though. And, uh, I'm still in touch with her. She's a model in Los Angeles. I flew her in to

02:33:50.680 be part of the film. And so I don't know. We'll see what happens with that.

02:33:55.160 Okay. So have you looked anywhere else like approaching in person?

02:33:59.960 Yeah. At church, actually, uh, I'm kind of a conservative Christian,

02:34:04.920 even though I got this wicked ass cool tattoo, but, um, uh, so yeah, church is nice to do that.

02:34:13.160 And it's different for me cause I'm 58, you know, and I'm trying to get back into the swing of things.

02:34:17.960 Uh, I stayed out of it for six years after the divorce, but these last two years,

02:34:22.680 I'm just like, what am I waiting around for if I want to find somebody, but I'm finding my age is

02:34:27.880 around, you know, 35 to 60, kind of a broad age. Right. But still someone who's in their late thirties

02:34:36.040 isn't too young. At least they don't think to seem to be a problem with my age and ladies who are more

02:34:43.000 mature or nice too. So, um, where have you found the best quality women that you've been dating?

02:34:50.280 Best quality. Like out of the church, the apps or, um, mutual friends, like.

02:34:57.000 That's it right there. Mutual friends and doing things that you both commonly like.

02:35:02.040 Cause then you already have something in common. Um, what, uh, what, you know, if it might be,

02:35:07.800 well, in my case, it's, it's kooky stuff. Like, uh, again, I like film, but I like board games.

02:35:13.160 I like things like that. So, um, finding people at parties is kind of nice. Conversing with people

02:35:20.680 and networking events is good. Uh, I'm into the growing my own business thing right now. So

02:35:28.280 finding networking business, networking events is kind of cool.

02:35:30.680 Yeah. I'm just jazzed to talk to you, Pearl, because I've been following you for like over

02:35:36.520 a year now and I've been wondering what's been up. So I'm glad this is cool. You're doing this now.

02:35:40.280 Yeah. I'm jacked to talk to you too, Paul. I'm glad you called in. Doug MPO. You got

02:35:44.760 any other questions for him? Nope. You know, I hope things go off. You may just be careful with that

02:35:50.600 actress. Oh, I know. Like I said, she's wrapped on it. We've been, we've been friendly since it's been

02:35:56.200 about a month and, uh, it's too long distance for me. I mean, you know, I, in Western New York versus

02:36:02.920 LA, although I am going out to see her in June, so we'll see what happens there. Okay. Well, keep

02:36:08.520 us posted. Let us know. Okay. Yeah. Thanks for luck, my friend. Okay. Thanks for having me on. Thanks.

02:36:15.400 Thanks. Um, let's see. Got one more. Okay.

02:36:26.120 Also guys, um, we're trying to finish the divorce documentary, but we're trying to raise some more

02:36:33.560 money. So if anyone knows any investors, feel free to point in my day, my way, we can work something

02:36:40.600 out in terms of deal, but anyways, feel free. Just for only things at gmail.com. Uh, Dustin,

02:36:46.840 how's it going? Yo, it's so good. Hey, where are you at? You look like a Wisconsin or are you in

02:36:54.600 Wisconsin? No, I'm in Washington state. God. Western Washington or Eastern Washington.

02:37:03.880 I'm in, uh, Vancouver. So I'm like right by Portland. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I grew up in

02:37:11.080 Washington state, bro. I know, I know where that is. Oh yeah. What city?

02:37:17.160 The capital. Oh, gross. I know. So this, the, I just want to ask Dustin, uh, um,

02:37:30.840 um, in your area, because I always say Western Washington is the place where attractive women

02:37:39.240 make themselves ugly to fight the patriarchy, right? Oh, so true, dude.

02:37:45.640 Oh, you, you have no idea. You, you see some woman who could be a solid nine, eight,

02:37:51.560 nine, but tattoos there, they, them in it. They got purple hair, septum piercings.

02:37:59.000 They smell like a patchouli, bro. It's ridiculous, right? Dustin.

02:38:05.080 It's so true. It's like, uh, I met a chick at the ice cream shop about a month ago and colored me.

02:38:11.480 And, um, we get back, like, I dated her for about two weeks. And when I go to her place,

02:38:18.040 I find she doesn't shave her armpits. Oh, that's it. There it is. Yeah. I was like,

02:38:23.720 it was, and I don't even never experienced that before, but when I like slid my hand down and I

02:38:28.760 felt like a guy, I just felt a guy or, or the bushes are out of control, Western Washington.

02:38:38.920 Yeah. I'm talking, yo, you gotta get a weed whacker. It's ridiculous.

02:38:45.320 Like, uh, I went to, and all the clubs over here are crazy. They got like, every,

02:38:51.720 every club has a theme for like, you know, what kind of weird you are. So I met this chick that

02:38:57.160 looked like the, the, the, like the witch lady off pirates of the Caribbean. You know, I thought,

02:39:01.400 I thought she was real hot though. And, oh, she just, it was the most interesting scent I've ever had.

02:39:08.840 And I just was like, where does this come from? And it just, it comes from, it comes from Portland.

02:39:14.120 It's just a smell. Yep. You just, Western Washington's, I always say, if you live in

02:39:23.480 Western Washington, Oregon or California, just move. If you can move.

02:39:27.480 But if you're a simp, you need to get all the simps. You need to buy them a bus and send them over here.

02:39:31.880 Someone's got to do it. So, so tell me, are you on the dating apps, Dustin?

02:39:41.320 Oh yeah. I just started again. I just got one. I just did it two weeks ago. I've downloaded it.

02:39:48.360 And like, so I, okay. So my advice for guys, guys, like, you don't gotta be nice. You know,

02:39:57.640 I think dating is a numbers game. So I always bat out of my league or I put myself in a situation

02:40:03.960 where I'm the man. So like in college, I'm not the best looking guy and I'm only five, seven.

02:40:09.880 So I'm not going to get with the chicks in the white frats, you know? So I joined a Latino fraternity

02:40:14.840 because all the women are shorter than me there. And I was like shagging all the chicks that I was like,

02:40:21.160 none of them would like give me a second glance if I was not in this organization.

02:40:27.640 And you just got to get rejected like 90% of the time. And like,

02:40:33.480 but if you're always batting out of your league, you're going to get, you're going to land a dime,

02:40:37.000 you know? And so like, so what apps have you found to be the best out of the ones you're on?

02:40:44.360 Uh, well, I'm only on Facebook date now, but like when I had a couple, uh,

02:40:53.240 let's see hinge, I had like hinge. I had the best looking chicks. Um, upward, you get very

02:41:01.480 attractive women, but they're like off their rocker. Just the most insane.

02:41:07.640 What is upward? I've never heard of that. Yeah. It's like, Oh, Christian. Oh, that one. Okay.

02:41:14.360 Okay. Like, like, um, like we hide behind. It's just crazy. And then Bumble, Bumble was

02:41:24.920 Bumble. You get like feminist on there. Yeah. I think like Bumble is like, um, when you say it's

02:41:32.120 more on par, like you'll match because chicks, chicks are only going to match with you if they think

02:41:36.600 like you have, you're like a little bit better than them. So I think that's probably, uh, like a good

02:41:43.400 one, but you have to spend more time. Like you, you would probably have like a, a longer relationship

02:41:49.240 with that. But, um, yeah, I, I think like it, it, it just depends on what your goal is. If your goal is

02:41:56.440 to not be lonely, then you probably want to be on Bumble. So have you done any other avenues like recently?

02:42:05.080 Have you tried in person? Like where else have you been meeting women?

02:42:08.920 Oh yeah. Like, uh, well, uh, I think one guy said, uh, you said something earlier that

02:42:17.560 guys should just lie. You just got to like, you do, women do fall in love with what they hear.

02:42:25.080 Like, because that's like a lot of times guys put their best foot forward, you know,

02:42:29.080 at the beginning. And then when we're like, why don't you love me as much type thing?

02:42:32.120 Because you stopped maybe buying flowers every week and doing all that jazz.

02:42:36.920 So like, I just like, um, I started going to this goth club. I I'm not goth at all. I don't

02:42:43.240 even know what goth is. There's like a Ouija board you dance with and you dance on at the floor.

02:42:48.840 So I go and I went dressed up like in my accounting clothes. And, uh, I just bought like,

02:42:56.120 I'm batting a hundred there. Like I, I buy two of these goth chicks a drink and both,

02:43:01.560 both of them, they're like just down. I don't know what it is, but I tell them I love goth

02:43:06.920 shit. You know, I listen to this all the time.

02:43:08.520 You don't care. Okay. So guys, I'm sorry, Pearl. Look, some guys have a lot of integrity

02:43:23.080 and they, and it makes them feel bad about lying. So if you don't want to lie, just don't say anything.

02:43:28.760 Oh, yeah. If you can't lie, like I said to the last guy, just get them talking about themselves

02:43:35.480 and don't talk about you. Women can talk about themselves all night. And if you let them,

02:43:40.440 they will. So if you don't want to lie, just don't say anything about yourself.

02:43:46.040 So, um, so you're almost saying like niche clubs are a good place to meet women.

02:43:53.400 Like niche. I think it's good to, you want to put like, I always thought it was good to put yourself in

02:44:00.040 a unique situation because like I was in high school, I was really shy. I didn't know how to talk to girls.

02:44:06.040 And, um, I had a crush on this chick and she told me,

02:44:11.640 all right. Um, she told me, thank you. Uh, she told me that if I went to cheer tryouts,

02:44:16.760 she let me grab her butt. And I thought, okay. So I went to cheer tryouts and they put me on

02:44:22.920 varsity. Cause I was like the only guy. And, and then I started hanging out the cheerleaders all the

02:44:27.960 time. And I'd stay there. Like we'd have these cheer nights and I started to learn like,

02:44:32.680 what do girls like, how to talk to them. And I found that you do, you do like,

02:44:39.080 it's really like the, whatever you tell a chick in the first week is probably going to get you like

02:44:44.120 laid or in the friend zone. Like, it's just, so like, I don't, I don't say, I don't know if I say

02:44:51.800 much truth in the first week I'm with them. I'm like, I agree with them and figure out what they

02:44:56.120 like. And I stick to that. And so have you tried any other places? So niche clubs, the dating apps,

02:45:03.480 where else are you? Oh, niche clubs. And if like, I have a decent job, but I pick up part-time jobs

02:45:09.640 in the service industry. Like, um, and I was like, I worked at, I was bartending at a spot for like

02:45:16.920 three months. And then I, the one chick I was shagging ended up being like, it was not the worst

02:45:22.440 decision of my life, but it was pretty wild. So I was like, you know, I don't need this.

02:45:25.720 So you get jobs and you get part-time jobs and restaurants, right? Yeah. I was telling

02:45:34.200 Pearl about restaurants. Didn't I tell you, Pearl? I told you. I never worked at a restaurant.

02:45:38.920 I don't know. I mean, it was on and off for eight and a half years, bro. And I can tell you,

02:45:43.240 restaurants are prime example. If you ever, yeah. What other jobs do you guys, all of you guys,

02:45:51.960 if you have a daughter and she wants to get her first job, keep her out of restaurants, man.

02:45:57.800 Don't let your, any young, young girl or young women work in the restaurants. All they're going to do

02:46:04.280 is get banged by the cooks in the service. That's it. Sorry. Uh, where else?

02:46:11.080 Uh, I'll tell you quick. I had a, when I was bartending, I had to go away from me my whole shift.

02:46:16.680 She said I was at 10. I don't know. I mean, she must've had a lot to drink that day.

02:46:21.720 She waited for me my whole shift and I brought her home and, uh,

02:46:26.120 she had the most rank fart I ever smelled. But, um, and when I took her home, she was like,

02:46:32.120 am I going to see you again? And I said, no way. And, but like, dude, it's like, it's hit or miss

02:46:39.320 though. When you take these part-time jobs, you know, like you really don't know what you're going to

02:46:43.960 have. Okay. Being from Washington state. Have you ever got with a girl who was pretty,

02:46:50.520 but kind of hippie looking, right? And then you get her home. Right. And then like the, it,

02:46:59.880 it's not, how can I put it here? This odor, it doesn't smell bad, but she's like a hippie.

02:47:10.520 I understand what I'm saying. So like you dive into it anyway, but you can, but you're like,

02:47:15.720 this is the only time that I can tolerate this. I'm not going to tolerate this again.

02:47:19.000 Have you ever had that experience? Yeah. Uh, bro. If you're from Washington,

02:47:25.000 most of us have been through it.

02:47:28.360 Cause you also got to think, man, like women aren't really eating healthy over here because

02:47:32.200 everything's pretty expensive. So, you know, like pineapple's not cheap.

02:47:38.280 So are there any other, so you said part-time jobs, niche clubs, um, dating apps. Is there anything

02:47:45.880 else that you missed just like recently? Not, uh, like, Oh, I have a kid, so it's not really fair.

02:47:53.640 Like not everyone's a kid, but, uh, I met a chick at the playground, like our kids got along and, um,

02:48:01.160 and I didn't like use my car for a play date or anything. Cause I never, our kids never hung out

02:48:06.840 after the playground, but that was like, that's pretty easy. Like I'm in, I'm in shape. So the other

02:48:12.440 dads, I'm not really, uh, really, you know, competing with. Right. So out of those four places,

02:48:20.680 where did you find the highest quality? The highest, what quality of the women?

02:48:28.360 So like out of the four places, was there one where the women were better and worse?

02:48:34.520 I think that actually, I think that actually meeting women, like you don't want to kind of,

02:48:39.240 uh, crap where you eat, you know, but I do think that if you meet women at work, but you don't like,

02:48:45.800 that's not your main thing. Like that's why a part-time job is great. Like if you're a

02:48:50.440 single guy, what else do you have to do besides get a part-time job, save your money and be better?

02:48:56.280 You know? Um, so I think that's good because then when you leave the job too, the woman's gonna be

02:49:01.720 like, Oh, like we met here, but he left. And, uh, like, and then she gets to tell her, her friends

02:49:07.000 at work too. Like my boyfriend doesn't work anymore. He doesn't need this job. And then she feels like,

02:49:11.160 she feels like really good. And, um, she's not just with you too, for like, you're both working in

02:49:17.160 the service industry. So she's not with you for the money. Thank you. So I would say that like

02:49:24.200 dating apps, you know, dating apps are just pretty much kind of like, you know, masturbation at this

02:49:30.120 point. You're just using someone else to do it. Yeah. Doug MPA, any, any other questions you got for

02:49:37.880 him? I do not. No questions here. Thanks for calling in Dustin, calling anytime. All right.

02:49:44.040 calling anytime. That's a good call. Yeah. Thank you guys. Thank you so much. Have a good one.

02:49:48.120 Yeah. You too. Bye bye. Now, Doug MPA your last, what's been your experience on the apps on where

02:49:58.120 you meet in women and what's your experience? So the, uh, I like what the, I haven't approached

02:50:05.240 women in the gym in a long time, only because I told you, I had that experience that messed up

02:50:09.880 my gym piece. Um, dating apps are, are dating apps are good depending where you are. So, um,

02:50:18.680 the different parts of the country have different characteristics. I just moved back up north from

02:50:23.400 the south. And when I was in the south, it was hard to date online because of the, there's a bunch

02:50:28.040 of baby mamas and a bunch of weaved up tattooed women down south. Um, the place I'm in right now,

02:50:35.880 there's a whole bunch of career women. It just depends. But, um, the best part about dating apps

02:50:40.920 is that you don't have to worry about if a woman's available because she has her, her profile on there.

02:50:46.200 So it kind of makes it easier, but you have to have a good profile and you have to know how to,

02:50:51.560 how to talk on the dating app. But, um,

02:50:55.080 I would really put this here, um, meeting in person, run clubs have always worked for me.

02:51:04.600 Um, going to a bar, you have to go to a bar for a reason. So don't just go to a bar, go to a bar

02:51:10.920 for a trivia night, karaoke night, where something is going on. Don't just go to a bar, don't do clubs.

02:51:19.480 And like the guy said, they're talking about the gym. If you can meet someone through,

02:51:24.600 through friends, that is the best way to do it. If you come recommended, that's half the battle right

02:51:29.720 there. Got it. Well, thank you, Doug MPA. Appreciate your, um, insight as always. Any other final thoughts

02:51:38.440 on the topic? Nope. Uh, I don't know what's going to happen. Well, Gen Z is, Gen Z is openly and actively,

02:51:48.040 um, getting off of dating apps, but it's weird because they were raised with no social skills

02:51:53.640 because of social media. And now they're going to try to get off dating apps.

02:51:57.080 So that's going to be interesting. We're going to have to keep track of that whole trend.

02:52:00.440 Yeah, definitely. Well, thank you guys so much for watching. I really couldn't do what I do without

02:52:05.800 you. Um, we are moving to three nights a week. So, uh, me and Doug MPA have to figure out the strategy

02:52:12.200 for when we're going to do the extra content. So let me get, get back to you guys on that.

02:52:18.040 Um, because now it can't be Tuesday nights after the show. I didn't think about that.

02:52:21.800 Um, but we're doing Colin shows Monday, Wednesday, Friday nights, and we're going to be putting out

02:52:28.360 reactions and maybe even some street interviews now that it's coming into summer. Again, the reason

02:52:33.320 I'm doing this is because I do, I one want to give you guys more of a mix of content so I can do street

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Pearl - April 15, 2025

Dating Apps Are Dead (Call-in Show) ｜ Pearl Daily

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