Pearl - April 26, 2026


DEBATE： Has Feminism Become Too Toxic？


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8 minutes

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33

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Toxicity

2

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17

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00:00:00.000 Welcome back to Alex Armstrong tonight. 0.91
00:00:07.140 A fascinating report in the Mail today details that thousands of South Korean women are abandoning
00:00:12.080 men by shunning sex and marriage, deeply damaging the country's fertility rate, which is already
00:00:17.860 one of the world's lowest at just 0.8.
00:00:22.940 Well, here in the UK, Louis Theroux's documentary exposed the manosphere propelling the ideology
00:00:28.560 into the forefront of the public's debate, of course.
00:00:31.840 Everyone was talking about it.
00:00:34.220 Interestingly, though, a new statesman investigation
00:00:36.960 found that a similar phenomenon is happening with women across the world
00:00:40.580 and the country, quite frankly, as well,
00:00:43.460 as their poll found that just 35% of British women under the age of 25
00:00:48.260 holds a positive view of men.
00:00:51.640 Well, one woman told the focus group
00:00:53.320 that they would not even think about being friends with a man,
00:00:56.460 quote, because they don't see them as human. So tonight I'm asking, is toxic feminism as harmful 1.00
00:01:05.040 as toxic manosphere? Right, we're joined now by journalist and commentator Annette Kello and 1.00
00:01:11.620 YouTuber and social media star Pearl Davis. Thank you both for joining me. I think this is round
00:01:16.420 two for you guys, actually. So thank you for joining me last time and thank you for joining
00:01:20.100 me tonight. Pearl, I'll start with you. Is toxic feminism a problem across the world, but particularly
00:01:25.680 in Britain? I would say that women have no idea how good they have it. And women have really 1.00
00:01:32.980 turned into spoiled brats. Men are running society. They're doing all the infrastructure 1.00
00:01:36.860 jobs, and there's no gratitude or appreciation. It's just endless complaints on how they're not
00:01:42.500 doing enough. It's interesting, Anna, isn't it? Because we're seeing this rise, and we saw this
00:01:47.540 South Korea article where women are basically saying they don't want to be friends with men.
00:01:52.120 Do you think that this culture is not being spoke about enough?
00:01:56.760 Well, I think it's not a case of it not being spoken about enough. 1.00
00:02:02.180 I don't think there's any such thing as toxic feminism. 1.00
00:02:06.840 I think people have just got their knickers in a twist. 1.00
00:02:09.060 I think women are just being a bit more sensible. 1.00
00:02:13.340 And actually... 0.97
00:02:14.060 What about false allegations? What about paternity fraud?
00:02:17.600 Are those not toxic feminism?
00:02:19.500 um paternity false allegations amber heard is not in jail i mean like it's easy for you to say that 1.00
00:02:26.380 as as a high status woman right it's easy to say that when we have easy talking jobs but there's
00:02:31.740 men that do the dangerous and the infrastructure jobs jobs of society and women are saying they're
00:02:38.220 not even willing to be friends with men and again again they do all of the jobs that allow us to do
00:02:44.460 do what we do. There's no gratitude. And then it's just gaslighting. It's like endless gaslighting
00:02:49.360 for high status women. It's not gaslighting, actually. So you think it's okay for women... 1.00
00:02:55.900 Eternity fraud. Is that toxic? Yes or no? Let's just let Annette finish, 1.00
00:03:00.080 because I'd like you to respond to what Annette says. Go on, Annette. 0.99
00:03:02.940 I wanted to say, actually, in the UK, laws have not changed very long ago, even just, 0.96
00:03:09.500 you know, 1991, before that, men could happily rape their wives. We have to look at, you know,
00:03:17.120 1975, the Sex Discrimination Act came in, because women couldn't get mortgages or bank accounts
00:03:23.660 without a man's signature. You know, yes, of course, we're grateful for the infrastructure,
00:03:28.580 but they should be grateful for the babies. We're giving them the babies.
00:03:32.620 That's not correct. That's not correct.
00:03:34.360 Yes, that is correct. 1.00
00:03:35.340 It was a different view of history, because women couldn't historically be responsible. 1.00
00:03:39.260 supplies women have just i'm just gonna interrupt very brief because they've got a radio audience 1.00
00:03:44.660 they won't be able to hear what you're saying pearl do you want to respond to what annette 0.96
00:03:46.980 was saying and then i'll pass it back to what she's saying isn't correct and commentate again
00:03:50.500 a lot of commentators um they don't understand the historical context and so she's saying oh
00:03:56.180 men needed a man to sign off on it but it was because they could not be held responsible for
00:04:00.720 debt in the past so if you take a loan and you legally can't be responsible to pay it off well
00:04:05.520 of course, you're not going to get the loan. And so they changed it. But that it was just a
00:04:09.280 different way society was structured. Well, that's not that's not quite true,
00:04:14.760 because actually women that used to have money had to give over all women from very wealthy
00:04:21.140 families used to have to give over all their money. I mean, this was, you know, 100 years ago,
00:04:26.760 but it was perfectly legal for them to give all their money to men, particularly ones that came
00:04:31.440 from wealthy families and that's why there used to be the first legal property owner was in the
00:04:36.180 six oh hang on letting it finish because i'm letting it finish go on go on but the the thing
00:04:41.660 is with that is you know you talk about men with infrastructure and helping with things like that
00:04:47.200 but what about if a woman married okay so say you pearl married a man and he was lazy and didn't 0.57
00:04:56.240 want to help you with the children and didn't want to work and didn't want to contribute any money
00:05:00.200 Would you find that an attractive prospect? Because that can happen to people.
00:05:04.640 And when women have children, they get into very difficult financial situations sometimes. 1.00
00:05:09.560 So they have to be sure of who they're picking. 1.00
00:05:13.600 Women have easier jobs, so it's not a fair comparison. 0.58
00:05:17.240 Like, is me talking at work? 0.61
00:05:18.900 Anna, let Paul finish. Let Paul finish.
00:05:20.640 Is me talking at work? Like, let's be honest.
00:05:23.500 Us doing this job is not the same as the men doing manual labor, right?
00:05:27.460 So it's not really fair to call men lazy when we talk for a living.
00:05:32.020 Excuse me, Alex is not lazy.
00:05:34.000 He's doing a fantastic job this evening.
00:05:36.200 Leave him alone.
00:05:37.200 I bet even he would agree that it's not the same as pouring concrete.
00:05:41.180 We're in air-conditioned offenses.
00:05:43.300 We talk for a living.
00:05:44.380 And a lot of men have done those jobs, and they'll tell you it's easier. 0.98
00:05:48.000 But women have no idea because most women go into industries where we talk for a living, 1.00
00:05:53.260 get these inflated egos, and think we're better than men when we're not. 1.00
00:05:57.020 It's not to do with inflated egos.
00:05:59.440 It's to do with women being safe.
00:06:01.340 I mean, if you look in the UK as well, we have when women become mothers, the first five years of the child's life, they lose £65,000 in earnings.
00:06:12.340 So you can't compare that because there is a difference between them losing money. 0.55
00:06:16.520 Men are the majority of workplace deaths. Where are you on that?
00:06:17.340 Where are you on that? Nowhere.
00:06:18.640 Because it's a lack of gratitude and appreciation.
00:06:21.480 Sorry, what did you say? 0.99
00:06:23.540 Men are the majority of workplace deaths. 1.00
00:06:25.980 where are you on that women are more you know women don't care about their safety because 0.99
00:06:29.820 they're more likely to die from a bbl than child if women cared about their safety they're more 0.99
00:06:34.780 likely to die from a bbl than childbirth and women are signing up to get those so women do not care
00:06:40.140 about their oh yeah millions of women with bbls everywhere doing the school run i see them all
00:06:46.540 the time i mean i really don't think you have the context here most women are spending their money 1.00
00:06:51.660 on their kids and they're not trying to get you plastic surgery like you have a face full
00:06:56.620 of makeup on that's that's cost money what's wrong with that there's nothing wrong hello 0.58
00:07:01.660 i'm on tv my point is women you said women you said that women don't spend money on them or you
00:07:07.740 said they're spending money on the kids no they're not they're spending money on themselves mothers 0.55
00:07:12.060 are far more expensive than children well are you telling me it's not okay for a woman to put makeup 1.00
00:07:18.460 on now. I didn't say that it wasn't okay. I said it. I said it. I'll let you both give a final sort 1.00
00:07:26.120 of wrap up of your views. Annette, I'll pass it over to you. Then I'll give it to you, Paul. Go
00:07:28.800 on, Annette. Yes, I think women do want to have children. They do want to have a husband, but they 1.00
00:07:35.660 want to make sure it's right. In the current economy, finances are not good. So it has to
00:07:41.100 work on both sides. And there's nothing wrong with women saying that. Paul? Men are great at 1.00
00:07:47.400 everything they do and feminists are jealous and they don't give men the appreciation they deserve 1.00
00:07:51.780 all right you too there you go heated debate there journalist and commentator annette kello 1.00
00:07:55.720 thank you very much for joining me and youtube and social media star pearl davis what did you
00:08:00.000 guys think of it at home let me know gbnews.com forward slash your sake