Pearl - September 21, 2025


Destiny Showed His True Colors On Piers Morgan and Got Whooped By Andrew Wilson For It


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47 minutes

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188.69495

Word Count

8,922

Sentence Count

6

Misogynist Sentences

12

Hate Speech Sentences

14


Summary

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In the wake of the tragic death of a 22-year-old YouTuber and podcaster named Charlie Kirk, many are asking the question: What is wrong with Donald Trump? Is he responsible for the cold-blooded murder of a young man named Charley Kirk, or is it a leftist ideology that drove him to do this?

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00:00:00.000 not the meanies on twitter how many more losses are you gonna face from women that you allegedly
00:00:05.120 secretly recorded during intimate moments destiny i can't believe anyone when i heard destiny got
00:00:13.040 demonetized i didn't lose any sleep over it so now we're going to react to him debating on pierce
00:00:18.800 morgan over saying something absolutely terrible about charlie kirk's death um destiny you've been
00:00:25.040 quite active on social media since charlie kirk's death when erica kirk posted charlie's coffin you
00:00:33.280 responded she tagged him brackets crying face emojis uh in response to alina habber's tweet
00:00:39.920 ordering people to fly their flags a half-mast in memory of charlie you posted on x buying flags and
00:00:45.680 poles just to fly them fully erect and you then posted yesterday ending every conservative debate
00:00:52.000 caller i do in 2026 with don't dodge bro that's not what charlie would have wanted um i mean do you
00:00:58.880 think that your response to the cold-blooded murder of charlie kirk has been appropriate yes i think that
00:01:06.960 the only way this country moves forward into a better world is when conservatives can finally
00:01:11.840 realize that they need to turn the temperature down on their side we are oh my gosh i'm gonna crash out
00:01:18.720 he said conservatives need to turn the temperature down on our side after we just had a politi not
00:01:27.840 even not even a politician but a youtuber gets shot in the neck
00:01:36.800 what is wrong with this man what on earth 10 years into whatever this trump madness is and there is not a
00:01:44.000 single mainstream conservative that will call for a lowering of the temperature on their side
00:01:48.640 i think that liberals need to wake up and finally realize that if they're not willing to do it it
00:01:52.960 will never come down if you wanted charlie kirk to be alive donald trump shouldn't have been
00:01:57.280 president for the second term every time he's in office this happens people joked about when biden
00:02:02.240 came in it was so boring nothing was going on seven out of ten of the largest protests in american
00:02:07.360 history have happened under donald trump all of the recent political violence that's happened in this
00:02:12.160 country over the past 20 years the majority of it the overwhelming majority of it everybody gets
00:02:16.240 mad because they keep asking grok about it has been conservative who was who shot charlie kirk
00:02:22.320 a guy from utah who was raised in a christian family who's a 22-year-old guy described he was a
00:02:27.760 destiny he didn't have a trans girlfriend he didn't have any trans influences he didn't have
00:02:32.320 any trans bullets yeah i'm sorry you guys were wrong on all of that to be clear the governor of utah
00:02:37.280 spencer cox has made it clear that their investigation has now established that he had been
00:02:41.760 radicalized by a leftist ideology which drove him to do this that's just i'm sorry excuse me when
00:02:49.600 yesterday he said that no no no when was he radicalized in the six months that he did remote
00:02:54.560 college and i don't know when he was radicalized but i do know what you just said i do know the very
00:02:58.720 reasonable founding governor of utah has made it clear that the event you may not want to hear this
00:03:04.480 ongoing investigation you may not want to hear it destiny but the reality is the investigators
00:03:10.000 according to the governor of utah have established that he was radicalized to a leftist ideology
00:03:16.000 that drove him to murder charlie kirk now let me just ask you that's just not true let me just
00:03:20.640 no way to deal with it okay he has texts released with his trans roommate i mean this is the thing
00:03:29.520 liberal men gaslight you just as bad as women do you know it's bad when anna kasparian is the boy voice of
00:03:37.040 reason i'm not lying that's your prerogative but but if it turns out to have been somebody with a
00:03:44.080 leftist ideology who wanted to shut up charlie kirk would you condemn that i won't condemn anything
00:03:50.480 until the president of the united states can go on air and say you have got to be kidding me he won't
00:03:57.200 condemn somebody being shot in the neck like now he's going to change the topic what is wrong with you
00:04:04.640 these people are always into such weird things all of us need to calm down so you won't condemn
00:04:10.560 the murder of charlie kirk until donald trump says something i'm a youtuber leftists and and democrats
00:04:17.360 have been condemning and turning down the temperature condemning violence turning the temperature for a
00:04:20.880 decade donald trump can't go on tv and say all of us need to calm down right can you tell me why he
00:04:27.040 cannot why would you expect anybody destiny you can't answer that can you answer that question
00:04:32.000 can you answer this question all of us should be less violent why do you think say that why do you
00:04:36.640 think your behavior contingent on donald trump right now let me ask a question donald trump let me ask
00:04:43.200 a question because he's the president of united states of america and the leader of the destiny
00:04:47.360 destiny let me what are you a child
00:04:54.240 have a huge audience of young men who listen to everything you have to say so when you it doesn't
00:05:00.960 matter you have a huge audience and because of the fact that you have a huge audience you have a
00:05:06.080 responsibility to not turn no it hasn't it hasn't been broken i actually care about the country and
00:05:12.640 want to bring people together if you do the opposite you represent the worst of us you're
00:05:17.680 violent you should tell them all right let me ask destiny a question hang on don't all shout out once
00:05:23.680 please if donald trump would have come out destiny we should all be less violent i have no problems i
00:05:28.000 have one question for you destiny conservatives do that why can't conservatives do that destiny i have
00:05:32.240 a question for you do you ever feel like there's too much to do but you don't have enough time
00:05:38.320 meet super ninja why do you think in your campaign for everyone to dial down the temperature why do
00:05:45.280 you think that mocking the grieving widow of charlie kirk when she posts an image of her at the coffin
00:05:53.200 side why do you think that constitutes turning down the temperature you can't turn down the temperature
00:05:59.280 on your own the president of the united states is not able you're mocking his widow you're mocking his
00:06:05.360 i cannot believe he's saying to turn down the temperature after they're having they've had
00:06:11.040 violent protests violent riots and they just shot somebody in the net i have never been more gaslit in
00:06:19.520 my life he's destroying himself we've had multiple political assassinations over the past year what do
00:06:26.400 you mean it's turning up the temperature why did you mock his widow online ever why did you mock his
00:06:30.960 widow she's because he's just not a nice person he is mean she's being used as a political weapon right
00:06:37.920 now for conservatives to continue they're okay i won't lie i actually agree with him on the yeah that
00:06:43.600 she's being used as like a political thing but it's still just in poor taste i mean wow she's
00:06:50.080 literally doing her husband just got murdered on email yeah she's using it to drive up recruitment
00:06:54.800 and you can't even condemn the murder you won't condemn it can't even tell his side you're so
00:06:59.440 deranged about trump you are you cannot condemn the murder because you're waiting for donald trump
00:07:05.120 this is what i mean when idiots get the most airtime
00:07:10.560 they just over talk everybody the smartest guys just walk away and don't argue
00:07:15.280 they just got better to do money off of it let me bring in let me bring in let me bring in
00:07:22.720 jack i gotta say there's still no answer to that question pierre you can't say which question donald
00:07:27.920 trump why can't donald trump simply it is crazy that the daily wire sat down with destiny and gave him
00:07:34.560 a softball debate and they would not have and this is a guy involved in alleged pedophilia i'm not saying
00:07:42.480 he did it i don't know but that's a pretty heavy allegation right and they won't have nick f on they
00:07:49.440 won't have rollo on it's actually crazy to be that they have this guy on but not the other two go on tv
00:07:57.280 and say we all need to turn it down like biden could like obama could like the clintons like like
00:08:02.880 comical why not why can't you condemn the murder of charlie kirk it's unbelievable it's i'm not the
00:08:07.920 president why can't you condemn the murder of charlie kirk unbelievable to me why can't you
00:08:14.800 condemn the murder of charlie kirk because it wasn't my side that caused it yes it was driving
00:08:20.160 it actually was your side that caused it it was your side this guy was raised in a white it was a
00:08:25.760 radicalized ideology radicalized by leftism at all you have no proof of that whatsoever that's what the
00:08:31.920 investigators are saying was a conservative just like the people that fired by uh shapiro's house
00:08:36.640 was a conservative just like all the j6ers were concerned like the proud boys were conservative
00:08:40.720 every single one of these every single one of these people oh it's jack for so big what the author
00:08:44.960 of unhuman another person that uh that uh charlie's put a good one dude but i'll give you one last
00:08:50.320 chance destiny to condemn the murder of charlie kirk yes you are acting like an unhuman why can't i hear
00:08:54.800 donald trump is your condemn violence all right you want to hear it okay we've all heard we've
00:08:59.760 all heard you repeatedly refuse to get heard donald trump refused to get jack for some reason the
00:09:04.720 leftists on youtube are a bigger deal unbelievable yeah what's incredible is you don't have the basic
00:09:09.440 humanity to condemn it you'd rather taunt his widow i find that sickening jack for so i find it sickening
00:09:16.480 it's so crazy how the dumbest people get the most airtime this is what i mean good behavior is not
00:09:22.160 rewarded and i think if you go through life expecting that good behavior is rewarded he's
00:09:28.240 doing a terrible thing he's rewarded with a huge platform and the most airtime on one of the biggest
00:09:34.240 shows in the entire country yeah you're gonna go nuts killed in the country the president united
00:09:40.160 states on fox and friends when they're begging him what do you say to your followers that want revenge
00:09:43.920 he says i don't know all the elections are rigged it's the radical democrats that's insane to me
00:09:49.040 and then and then the fixation is well who on twitter and youtube isn't condemning the violence
00:09:54.000 milo get off the toaster okay sorry i'm with you now that's okay all right katie
00:10:00.160 all right you have you have a great example here of the type of cancer i'm talking about
00:10:05.440 where when you present direct information they refuse they obfuscate they refuse they say it's not true
00:10:12.960 they lie uh you could see from the bullet casings you could see from postings you could see from
00:10:17.600 everything out there that you know it's it's very clear what happened here uh this is the same people
00:10:22.400 who supported president trump almost getting assassinated twice last year corey caputori
00:10:26.800 being assassinated in in a situation uh again see just just lies that's all they do they talk over
00:10:34.160 they don't even let you give a chance to speak and something needs to be done peers something
00:10:38.080 absolutely needs to be done this ideology should be shamed humiliated driven from the public discourse
00:10:44.400 i mean you've got people who have completely dissociated with humanity because all they care
00:10:49.200 about flicks and youtube streams and likes go go go to the casket go to the grave site go talk to the
00:10:57.040 widow you know i i i don't even know how to how to discuss this with someone who's completely lost all
00:11:04.000 touch with reality yeah i mean i'm not jack's answer to why why can't look how he's like over talking
00:11:09.040 everyone it's just so rude presidents say we should all be less violent right because you can't even
00:11:16.080 condemn the cold blood execution i don't think you're in the position to demand anything from
00:11:21.840 anybody on youtube that's how i'm going to take my uh you're not in any position to condemn anybody for
00:11:26.240 anything you you won't condemn the cold bloody murder he deserves to have his kid be a griper
00:11:30.960 that would happen to him imagine this is your dad the united states he's the president of the
00:11:40.400 united states no one here can answer that basic humanity says the murder was horrific why can't
00:11:45.840 you say it to be less violent why can't you say it's destiny over a decade to say the murder was
00:11:50.800 horrific and unacceptable donald trump say it you can't do it any words for donald trump all right
00:11:56.000 annicus berrin nothing exactly annicus berrin this to me this is what i'm talking about that i think
00:12:02.080 there is an element of the left the hard woke left that have completely lost their minds if you are not
00:12:09.280 able to just outright simply condemn the murder of charlie kirk and if you cannot stop yourself from
00:12:16.240 mocking his grieving widow you are sick as i've just seen from destiny it's just weaponizing a widow's
00:12:24.400 grief to try to do recruitment for your political party that's probably one of the most disgusting
00:12:28.480 things i've ever seen she's showing up in emails for recruitment drives for tp usa destiny what did
00:12:33.600 you think the assassination of a political figure would do what did you think the outcome was going to be
00:12:40.560 what did you think the outcome and by the way are you asking me for the pragmatic political
00:12:44.400 are you asking me for hey how about take it easy on the adderall take it easy on the adderall and let me
00:12:51.120 answer the question you must have been really bullied today my behavior is not reliant on how
00:12:58.960 anyone else behaves every morning i wake up and i make decisions about how i choose to react or respond
00:13:04.960 to things i don't wake up in the morning check what donald trump has to say and then base my own personal
00:13:10.720 behavior on his behavior i agree with you in that it would be very helpful to have the leader of this
00:13:16.560 country want to turn the temperature down and he hasn't done that i agree with you on that but that
00:13:21.840 doesn't change the way i choose to respond to what's going on the idea of mocking a woman who is now a
00:13:28.560 widow with two young children who witnessed her husband get shot in the neck and bleed out to death
00:13:36.720 i just don't understand it that's it i don't understand it i don't understand you destiny you have
00:13:42.080 so much hatred in your heart and at the same time it's such a simple thing if you're going to weaponize
00:13:46.960 somebody's grief against the other party then of course people have a right to fight back against it
00:13:51.120 i think that she has every right to grieve in whatever way she wants but when that grief is
00:13:55.120 going to be weaponized to do what is wrong with this person what is wrong with him recruitment political
00:14:00.720 recruitment and further radicalization of the other side then of course you not only have the ability to
00:14:05.600 market i think you have the obligation to market it's insane let me understand let me understand your
00:14:10.480 argument so since others are using her grief to politically recruit you think that it's okay
00:14:16.800 to mock her specifically since others are she's the one who gave a 17 minute speech on tv where she
00:14:24.080 talked about good versus evil she's the one showing up in tp usa ads to one or two days after if someone
00:14:30.720 assassinated my husband if someone assassinated my husband i would not be able to have the level of
00:14:37.760 composure she had during that speech i would be out for blood i understand why she's angry and why
00:14:44.880 she said the things that she said okay you need to understand what being a human is what it's like
00:14:50.480 to actually lose someone that you love that you chose to spend your life with how the hell is anna
00:14:55.280 casparian the voice of reason on this panel you chose to raise children with a person who was violently
00:15:01.600 and viciously assassinated and viciously assassinated like that this is why i've moved away and when
00:15:05.760 something has you identified as you got bullied online it's so funny it's so funny that you just
00:15:10.160 so embarrassing on the left think about how other people act to define your behavior your entire
00:15:14.080 political ideology now somehow defined by the people that were mean to you on twitter
00:15:17.920 somebody cares about somebody who's grieving i understood what the flaws on the left happened to be
00:15:22.720 maybe the weakness in their arguments no no it's not about the way i get treated i get treated like crap from both
00:15:28.800 sides of the political aisle mass recruitment for our political party while everyone over here is calling
00:15:33.280 for civil war it's unhinged when you've got people like bat walsh in the daily wire we're talking to a guy
00:15:38.960 who said he'd be okay with his own parents getting killed if they went to that trump rally where that
00:15:43.040 assassination and we're talking to a woman who went on and did the whole conservative media there's
00:15:46.960 no there's no reasoning with you nothing bad to say whatsoever i know where your bread is murdered
00:15:51.280 i know where it was great i had awesome conversations i don't regret it at all that's great i
00:15:55.200 also had a conversation with jack soviet on her take it was awesome yeah i know that's what
00:15:59.200 democracy is about having an exchange of ideas comes out of his mouth yeah all right let me bring
00:16:04.000 in let me i don't agree with him on everything but at least we can have dialogue you're completely right by the
00:16:09.280 way i know it's completely right and the irony of charlie kirk is that he led the way in it in
00:16:14.720 going in to debate with people who hated him and he would try and have respect for dialogue beat up on
00:16:20.640 college students unlike you let's be real let me bring andrew wilson in let me bring in andrew wilson
00:16:26.400 so do you you beat up on college students you go on a college you're going on a college tour right now
00:16:31.120 to beat up on college students imagine
00:16:34.000 just by thinking about it meet base 44. so he's going on a college tour and criticizing
00:16:44.160 charlie kirk for going on college tour you can't make this up you're talking about nasty that's what
00:16:49.040 you're doing right this second is going on a college tour to go beat up on college students by
00:16:53.200 the way can i just ask you a question yes or no can you actually answer can you actually answer
00:16:57.920 hang on calm down i just got one question i got one question for you and i want you to actually
00:17:03.280 answer it are you glad charlie kirk is dead no i don't think anybody in this country should be
00:17:08.240 dying to political violence it's insane the past five years in this country has been crazy but the
00:17:12.720 reality is until conservative why did you say that to your co-host that trump deserve to do it
00:17:17.680 why did you tell him to say until conservatives have to say hey we all need to be less violent
00:17:22.720 there's no purpose in democrats because every time democrats disavow you further entrench your
00:17:27.840 guys's delusional beliefs that all the violence is coming on the left donald trump can go on tv
00:17:32.560 he can say i wish he could they could just mute him pierce you got to get a mute button on here
00:17:37.840 proud boys stand back and stand by they can go on parlor and say we heard you they can go to the
00:17:42.400 capitol and break in and try to insurrect they can get convicted in front of a jury and then
00:17:46.080 donald trump can pardon them and we can come out and go hey guys uh why aren't democrats just
00:17:50.160 surviving balance and pretend that the problem is coming from the left democrats do a disservice to this
00:17:54.000 country okay let me respond quickly let me respond quickly let me respond quickly so the thing is
00:18:01.760 why did you say to your co-host keep focusing on me that the bullet that the bullet was for trump
00:18:08.960 why did you say to your co-host why did that the best place for the bullet was trump why did you say
00:18:14.000 that why did donald trump call it so what about ism what about ism i'm asking you a question i can't
00:18:20.320 what about ism if it's my question destiny why won't donald trump answer answer the question
00:18:26.160 why don't we do this why don't we do this why don't we do this before i cut my easy questions
00:18:31.280 you don't care destiny you don't care that kirk's destiny allow andrew allow andrew
00:18:36.080 allow andrew to repeat his question in and let him answer ask the question then you answer it okay
00:18:42.320 andrew no no i i want to hear the other let him ask the question destiny and then you answer it
00:18:50.720 andrew destiny told his co-host when asked point blank if he wanted the bullet to kill trump
00:18:56.720 uh that the worst thing that could have happened was the bullet missing he said this to pisco i watched
00:19:02.080 it okay this guy's an obfuscation machine and if you know what else destiny why should we believe you
00:19:08.960 i think you are glad kirk is dead and uh all of your tweets seem to prove that and he would have
00:19:13.520 been happy if trump was assassinated you've made that very clear so why not just be truthful for
00:19:18.800 once in your life and say the truth that you don't care that kirk is dead and you're actually probably
00:19:24.880 glad he is isn't that really what's true i don't want anybody in this country to die to political
00:19:30.800 violence i don't think in the united states of america that should be happening i don't know why it's
00:19:34.000 so hard for the president to say the same i think it'd be the easiest thing in the world as a
00:19:37.040 president biden did it for four years that's why everything was way cooler when he was here like
00:19:40.640 in terms of temperature yeah sliding oh look at anna anna's face she's about to say something oh
00:19:46.320 what's she gonna say uh the clintons have no problem saying it barack obama has no problem
00:19:50.640 saying it kamala harris has come out and said it every democratic lawmaker and leader has basically come
00:19:54.400 out and said it but for some reason on the republican side it's just civil war civil war civil war and the
00:19:58.880 republican president of the united states who has presided over more violence politically in this
00:20:03.280 country more large protest than any president in all of u.s history for some reason can't bring
00:20:07.360 himself to say all of us need to calm down and so did trump deserve the bullet i love to say it
00:20:11.680 trump this is all you care about are the political hit just answer the question bro did donald
00:20:18.160 chaddy deserve the violence on his side ever did donald trump answer the question here's the thing this
00:20:22.880 is probably the smartest guy on the panel
00:20:24.720 nothing against andrew andrew's pretty smart too but you know i just i can't youtubers just we could
00:20:32.800 never be in the top tier i'll never i'll never put us in the top tier because we're you you know
00:20:39.840 there's just yeah anyways but he speaks the least and that's just always how it goes
00:20:46.800 the dumbest person speaks the most which is destiny you can't answer the question we're here to play
00:20:51.920 it's my turn to ask the question it's your turn to answer it's youtube did trump deserve the bullet
00:20:57.600 did trump disavow violence in this country ever did he deserve the bullet yes but again i just did
00:21:03.680 now your turn now your turn it's your turn i never said that no i never said that no okay except you did
00:21:11.680 to your co-host no i said oh wait wait wait wait wait when did you start your exact words to your
00:21:17.120 true host you lying sack of if he wanted to kill trump the worst thing that could happen
00:21:21.840 donald trump is about all political violence and that's what you said this is oh yeah yeah and this
00:21:26.800 is right when you're putting youtubers when you're putting youtubers and tweeters on the same level as
00:21:31.520 the president united states this is why conservatives are absolutely brain broken when it comes to
00:21:35.680 violence in this country conservatives are brain broken when it comes to violence in this country
00:21:42.240 i'm speechless at this point continue destiny destiny destiny i'm gonna turn around and be like
00:21:54.400 i can't believe it destiny what's happening here okay destiny if you care so much about political
00:21:59.120 violence in america why don't you lead the way yourself without mentioning anybody else why don't you
00:22:05.040 one side why don't why don't you destiny right now just outright condemn the murder of charlie kirk
00:22:12.640 one because we've been doing that for a decade one side can't go down the temperature
00:22:20.000 he said the left can't turn down the temperature but the right needs to turn down
00:22:28.800 i really have no words this is the ultimate gaslighting temperature if donald trump
00:22:33.680 yeah that guy just started praying then the left shouldn't until he does got it okay you don't
00:22:40.320 want to do it accountability okay actions they need some responsibility for the insanity
00:22:46.560 even though you've taken on yourself let me bring in jack
00:22:52.400 i'll bring in jack for so big jack nice both sides it jack
00:22:56.640 what is your response to this every time i hit a bottleneck i build a new ai employee to crush it
00:23:05.280 i used to say that i had one ai employee i i mean peers this this is exactly what i'm talking about
00:23:11.760 you know this this type of ideology where you've got someone who's willing to mock erica who's been
00:23:18.240 standing strong for her family for her children who's just she will never be able to grow old with charlie
00:23:26.640 she will never be able to be with them again have more children to have grandchildren to have
00:23:34.800 those memories to raise them it's all gone every single moment of that future that they had was
00:23:42.240 gone because someone fired a bullet at charlie kirk that said hey fascist catch and and now you have
00:23:49.280 people celebrating it and when you ask people about it that's not even the bullet that was fired how
00:23:54.000 are you lying about this shut up destiny shut up you're so you're so shameless dude oh my god you're
00:24:00.720 not inside the right bullet you're such a disgusting piece of shit holy what a pedantic what a pedantic
00:24:06.080 i would like to let i would like to let jack finish his point here so you gotta get a mute button you
00:24:16.880 gotta get a mute button yeah and and they'll claim there's no and they'll claim there's no leftist
00:24:21.840 connection they'll claim there's no there and and then go so far as to lie and say there's a some kind
00:24:27.840 of christian conservative connection when you you could see the writing on the bullet casings and so
00:24:33.440 you know these are very common symbols associate whatever the point is right it should be very very
00:24:40.800 clear are we connected with our humanity or are we not and some people are willing to do that and
00:24:48.320 has been willing to do that we've we've done shows together they've been they've been fine they've been
00:24:52.720 good we've jousted we've done the back and forth destiny and i in the past have had have had shows
00:24:57.840 together where i you know before you kind of took this turn and you know you you think there are
00:25:02.960 people who can just be willing to stand up for humanity you know jack it reminds me a bit of the
00:25:08.800 journey i've gone on very different circumstances but the israel hamas war the reason i asked everybody
00:25:14.960 on the pro-palestinian side for months after the war started do you condemn what a mass did is i think
00:25:20.800 it was very enlightening as to the humanity of the person by how they responded if their immediate
00:25:26.240 response was of course i do the mass murder of civilians on october the 7th was a horrendous
00:25:33.040 atrocity then we can move on to an intellectually honest debate if they refuse to condemn what hamas
00:25:39.120 did it's a completely different debate and similarly right now i feel if you can't condemn a lot of what
00:25:46.400 the idf are doing frankly it's my opinion uh in gaza then the same thing if you if you're unequivocally
00:25:54.320 like you know it's all fine with 20 000 plus kids being killed then i've got a problem with that too
00:26:00.160 but i do think you've got to try and maintain in all of these debates a modicum of humanity about people
00:26:08.400 who are actually being killed and what is terrifying about the mindset of a lot of people on the woke
00:26:15.440 left have seen since charlie kirk's death is the brazen glee that they're taking to his murder and
00:26:22.800 then when i see even destiny who's a very well followed person on the internet well known when
00:26:31.440 destiny frankly if you can't bring yourself just to say the murder was horrific and should never have
00:26:36.400 happened it's a very simple sentence it's just basic humanity it really makes me despair for where
00:26:42.720 everything is going because it's indicative of the mindset of i can't give an inch to my political
00:26:48.160 opponents therefore i lose my humanity how can that be right because you can't give an inch to political
00:26:54.480 opponents that won't recognize or acknowledge anything they've done is wrong it's it's all it's
00:26:59.520 done has gotten us here this is where we're at because of that exact mindset will any of the
00:27:04.160 conservatives here acknowledge the conservative that murdered melissa hortman and her husband and
00:27:08.320 shot the other senator in minnesota
00:27:12.720 yeah of course yeah just about all conservative shooters that no no no that it was a conservative
00:27:17.280 shooter i don't know the details on that particular case if i did and it turned out that it was the
00:27:22.400 and it turned out it was the case of course i would say that such violence should be disavowed thing is
00:27:27.280 you can't hold your entire moral standard based on what you think trump is doing or not doing
00:27:32.080 what does that have to do with you destiny it has nothing to do with you you can easily just
00:27:36.000 do with this you can lead by example and say let's all tone down the violence lead by that's what you
00:27:40.480 want president of the united states that's what democrats have been doing wait you can't lead
00:27:44.480 by example because you're not the president that's just one side if one side wants to fight and the
00:27:50.560 other side doesn't then you're going to fight one side can't decide not what are you talking about
00:27:55.520 that makes no sense what is that what do you mean it makes no sense you can easily you to fight
00:28:01.840 i don't want to you don't really have the choice there lead by example then lead by example that's
00:28:07.520 called dying let me let me jump in let me jump in here i actually i actually felt that anna hit the
00:28:17.920 nail on the head here you're not going to believe what happened tell me everything i'll show you on
00:28:22.880 monday.com so i started the biggest which is she did not need to wait for donald trump to comment on
00:28:29.440 this to make her own mind up about what had happened that is intellectual honesty right yes it may be
00:28:36.320 somebody that she totally disagree with right on many issues the simple humane thing to do with any
00:28:42.640 event like this is to ask yourself how do i personally feel about it not what does donald trump
00:28:48.480 think about it or what does joe biden think about it or what does tim buck two think about it it's
00:28:54.000 what do i personally feel about this it didn't take me very long destiny to understand that i felt
00:29:01.280 repulsed by the execution of somebody in cold the crazy thing is even our worst criminals don't get
00:29:07.920 public execution that's what makes it even more sad like the worst of the worst do not get public
00:29:14.480 executions but a white conservative christian male does blood with his wife and two young children
00:29:21.760 they're watching it's a human reaction i don't need to know what donald trump thinks about it
00:29:28.160 at all i don't understand why you need to wait for him before your own humanity wait for anybody no
00:29:34.160 you're not asking how we feel about it you're asking what the public statements should be and the
00:29:38.320 public statements should be the president of the united states yes you are you're asking me for a
00:29:42.480 public statement i'm asking where is your humanity you can't just say the murder was your humanity
00:29:48.480 you guys are playing into this exactly i think you probably know it i think cornell was right about
00:29:52.320 this you know where your bread is buttered as well you guys play into this it's insane to me that the
00:29:55.920 president of the united states can't say hey all of us need to be less violent we all need to calm the
00:30:00.160 down that the president and i just can't say we gotta stop putting him on those shows this but you will
00:30:05.200 but it's it's he's rewarded right he makes money off of being absolutely insane honestly scoured
00:30:11.040 twitter and youtube for leftists to bring on and say don't you guys disavow the violence it's
00:30:15.360 absolutely absurd to me you know corner west should have stayed in his seat we were debating free speech
00:30:21.840 actually and whether they're debating free and whether well let me finish let me finish and whether
00:30:26.480 the overuse whether the overuse of words like hitler nazis and fascists was actually empowering deranged
00:30:33.440 young minds to think they were battling actual new hitler nazis and fascists and actually when
00:30:39.520 andrew pointed out to cornell that he had used the phrase neo-fascist about trump that's when cornell
00:30:45.840 decided he couldn't take part in a debate anymore when he was reminded of something he had said he
00:30:51.040 didn't try and deny it he just said i don't want to have this debate and left pierce how long have you
00:30:56.000 been in the united states like following our politics over 20 years i've lived and worked in
00:31:02.480 america okay if you've lived and worked in america i grew up as a conservative listening to rush limbaugh
00:31:07.920 and to glenn beck and billy cunningham and to sean hannity you're going to sit here and pretend like
00:31:11.840 democrats are the ones that started the name calling i heard them call obama and the clinton
00:31:16.160 i didn't say that when did i say that i'm just saying why are we pretending that i'm saying he
00:31:22.320 just keeps moving the goal post oh this is so insane household why would cornell west walk out
00:31:28.640 on a debate when we're literally talking about the importance of speech makes no sense to me if speech
00:31:34.000 is important then the president should exercise it more cautious so should you republicans have been
00:31:40.480 you can't stop you've got millions of followers and you think it's fine to show them you're mocking
00:31:45.360 a widow you cannot choose for your opponent not to fight you fine if republicans won't turn down the
00:31:51.280 rhetoric then who cares donald trump who cares use the rhetoric that led her to be killed two days
00:31:57.760 before she dies this is all it's just a virtue signaling you guys are excited about it you guys
00:32:04.480 love it how is it how is it you said this guy can't possibly be elected it's exciting to you it's
00:32:09.200 insane to me oh how is it that you said this guy can't be a leftist because he grew up in a white
00:32:14.160 christian household when you grew up in a white christian household by your own admission just
00:32:17.600 now and you're a leftist destiny i'm 36 years old this guy was 22 and i can't believe he's 36.
00:32:27.360 that's crazy what does that have to do with anything what does that what does that have to do with
00:32:32.800 anything 20 years to separate myself from my parents ideology i didn't live with them oh jesus so so
00:32:39.200 he's been streaming since he was really young it's one year 20 years why does it matter how
00:32:44.560 how long it took to separate you just got to say it was impossible and you yourself are a leftist who
00:32:48.880 grew up in a christian conservative household you can't make this up dude you're the worst hypocrite
00:32:55.120 i've ever seen hold on i'm sorry you think you think that a 22 year old has as much time to separate
00:33:01.200 himself from the ideology that he grew up with i say that 36 year old yeah they can start sooner
00:33:08.000 because you are consuming social media content at like 10 12. i mean i i have a relative that was
00:33:16.960 pretty liberal by the time she graduated high school and she started getting that way at literal 12 years
00:33:22.560 old because they're on tick tock they're on twitter they're on social media yeah you just made the
00:33:26.480 comparison of course you did it's not let me let me jump in let me jump in let me jump in let me ask
00:33:36.080 jack jack you you know the kirk family well you've been around the kirk family i think since this is
00:33:42.240 appalling murder has happened when you hear destiny saying who cares about the fact that he openly
00:33:47.120 publicly mocked erica kirk a grieving widow within literally a day or two of her husband being
00:33:55.600 murdered how does that make you feel as a friend of the family that's it's very angry kirk appears you
00:34:04.640 know and and here's the thing is is she's seeing all of it she's going to see all of it her her kids
00:34:11.440 are going to watch this video one day it's just that's sort of the nature of of reality now um
00:34:17.120 they will see all of this and they will see the reaction and i just hope that those of us who
00:34:24.880 knew charlie worked with charlie who knew charlie beyond the you know tick tocks and short videos
00:34:32.560 can can also be there for those kids as they grow up to let them know who who their dad was
00:34:39.600 and they're going to grow up and watch old episodes of pierce morgan uncensored how performative
00:34:44.160 is this this is everybody here did we all get like a script before the show what what is wrong with
00:34:49.200 him i think he really might be autistic they watch a lot of episodes of the jam you make the left look
00:34:58.000 so bad and you don't even realize it you are seriously so embarrassing okay yeah you can talk
00:35:03.520 to your best friend you really are i mean like you have another 30 minute conversation about it
00:35:07.600 maybe i will maybe i will talk to glenn beck about it oh is that oh is that is that not he isn't
00:35:12.880 how many conversations have you had with me you have more conversations with anyone so mean oh no
00:35:20.320 not the meanies on twitter i know how many more lawsuits are you gonna face from women that you
00:35:26.080 allegedly secretly recorded during intimate moments destiny i can't believe anyone oh she didn't say
00:35:33.680 that oh oh my gosh are you really disgusting you're embarrassing and you should be shunned from
00:35:43.840 in public life with your disgusting treatment of all sorts of people including young left-wing girls
00:35:50.160 women you're turning more blind right now in the window yeah that's who you are two shades away
00:35:54.880 from you're embarrassing you embarrass the left you're the type of person who pushes people away
00:35:59.440 from the left make sure you understand that you're embarrassing there's no morality with you
00:36:04.800 there's no grounding values there's no principles all you want is attention attention attention attention
00:36:10.240 that's all you want of course endless attention say disgusting provocative garbage another friendly
00:36:17.120 conversation with another yeah mainstream conservative commentator you're such a leftist
00:36:20.880 but those people on twitter are so mean the structure motorized pergola system is reinventing
00:36:25.440 the way homeowners experience the outdoors having having a debate or dialogue doesn't automatically
00:36:32.960 mean that you agree with everything they have to say it means you're no it's when you sit down and
00:36:37.200 you're exchanging ideas and debating them to say i know no i don't agree with everything they have
00:36:42.640 to say what are you talking about i don't agree with everything they have to say but you know i'm
00:36:46.560 an adult and i can sit down and have a mature debate or conversation you have no disagreements
00:36:51.120 about anything on the right yeah that's called i do have criticisms for the left i have tons of
00:36:55.600 criticisms for the right tons of criticism she's a woman obviously she's going to criticize both
00:36:59.920 sides but i can't believe she brought that up on tv they don't seem to come out much when you're
00:37:04.240 talking to her i obviously have a huge problem with the unending unmitigated support for israel
00:37:09.920 regardless of the genocide they're engaging in i have all sorts of disagreements with the right
00:37:14.000 that doesn't mean i'm going to dehumanize them and cheer on the slaughter of my fellow americans
00:37:18.800 because we have disagreements on politics you're embarrassed anybody here had the same
00:37:22.960 energy for the president of the united states but that's good i'm glad you guys are focused where it
00:37:26.160 really counts on twitter dude you have like tds like you know you are like the prototype of tds
00:37:31.840 it's unbelievable you wake up every morning and you decide your behavior is going to hinge on trump
00:37:36.960 tell me more about the dancing israelis and building seven and how the jews all knew about
00:37:41.920 9 11 and they all want us to go to war
00:37:43.840 you're a sociopath let me bring in jack again don't make things up you disgusting prick
00:37:50.560 let me bring it in jack again let me bring in jack again jack
00:37:55.680 navarro earlier was talking about uh directly to elon musk about in his view uh the urgent need
00:38:02.000 for elon musk to detoxify x given that he owns a platform and that he blamed x for a lot of the
00:38:08.880 toxicity in in public discourse what what do you feel about that well you know i i i think there's
00:38:18.240 obviously a tension between um you know standing standing and wanting free dialogue and freedom of
00:38:23.920 speech but also maintaining a line beyond uh calling for violence and calling for direct um direct
00:38:32.560 violence or direct criminal activity so you know x in its original twitter fashion if you go all
00:38:38.640 the way back to uh you know 2012 2010 when when it was really getting going they used to pretty much
00:38:46.000 pretty much the the main things that were banned uh or would get get taken down or get a town's band
00:38:51.920 were a posting of direct um uh addresses of people's doxing or uh posting or posting direct threats to
00:39:00.000 violence and so i i think there needs to be that line set of this is uh acceptable discourse this is a
00:39:07.520 back and forth but the idea that a direct call for violence uh should be banned i think that's
00:39:12.800 something that i would support andrew what do you feel about the social media aspect of all this do
00:39:18.480 you think that it is culpable to a degree in uh the surging text toxicity of debate about these things
00:39:28.320 look uh social media is a tool and what that what social media has done right now is it's allowed us to
00:39:33.280 get a glimpse into leftist ideology finally and we get to see the insane madness uh that was always
00:39:39.680 there and uh the fact of the matter is is that you know here on the panel right this second you have a
00:39:44.800 guy who celebrated a multitude of these types of things including telling his co-host that uh that
00:39:50.720 basically trump the worst place that the assassin could have put the bullet was anywhere other than
00:39:55.120 trump i mean i got the clip of him doing it and so the thing is it's like what we've noted
00:40:00.240 now these people are glad they're glad they're happy they love it i go on tick tock all the time
00:40:05.520 and i debate with these people it's very clear that leftists are glad that this happened and
00:40:11.760 that they're going to do everything they can to promote more of it and we're supposed to base
00:40:16.480 our behavior on what the president does or doesn't say what like if if biden if i had biden derangement
00:40:23.360 syndrome i couldn't still come out and condemn political violence of course i could but the thing is
00:40:28.240 is that i'm just curious anybody have any words for the fact that charlie said that biden should
00:40:31.760 have been elected leftist collectively can't seem to do that though i don't know why they can't do
00:40:36.880 that no that was fine when charlie kirk said it i know i know i want to mention something to you
00:40:41.040 which i wasn't going to talk to carlie kirk was a moderate he was more moderate than a local
00:40:45.360 electrician yeah nice pivot he was more moderate than a local electrician and you know that he said he
00:40:50.080 wanted to see biden you have debated with the worst he said he wanted to see you know biden executed
00:40:56.560 okay give me a no that's not what he said about any of this stuff that's not what he said he said
00:41:00.320 if you violate formative criminality in criminal law formative and that will be the case
00:41:07.520 that's disgusting people are outraged by the i mean i interviewed people when i was getting
00:41:13.840 interviews that had like tears in their eyes the day it happened i mean people the country really
00:41:20.640 felt this to be honest what's performing what's performing so if i say so i say oh well you know
00:41:25.840 i think that guy was a criminal therefore the execution is okay somehow that makes everything
00:41:29.680 fine with no investigation you say all the time that your political opponent should be in jail
00:41:34.800 and the highest extent of the law you say all the time what are you talking about sorry no that's
00:41:38.320 saying the word performative doesn't mean the national guard right now it's just investigations
00:41:42.560 and that's just performative i want to bring it back in okay i want to bring it back in because
00:41:50.160 the president-elect of the oxford union the probably the most premier debating society in the world i've
00:41:56.080 done it several times myself george aber onye aber onye reportedly posted uh several he didn't
00:42:03.680 reported he did post several comments in a whatsapp group appearing to celebrate the murder of charlie
00:42:09.360 kirk one said charlie kirk got shot let's fucking go another one was i think lol um this guy is going
00:42:18.640 to be the president of the oxford union debating society and yet he is celebrating the murder of
00:42:25.040 somebody he literally debated himself in the oxford union in may i found that terrifying
00:42:32.480 i mean he shouldn't still be in the job because how can you possibly be the head of a debating
00:42:37.760 society when you think the way to debate with people i know they and destiny's going to gaslight
00:42:43.360 and say trump isn't turning down the temperature but this is what's on their side it's murder them
00:42:48.320 if they don't agree with you but again the gleeful celebration this is supposedly one of the
00:42:53.360 brightest students in britain you know president right oh come on you're telling me the brightest
00:43:03.840 student in britain is wearing this to it yeah okay they just let anyone into oxford now of the new
00:43:16.720 oxford union debate society when i was a kid my dad used to say son when you grow up real-time data
00:43:25.200 analysis is going to be a thing he can't be that bright if he's not considering what a political
00:43:31.440 assassination could potentially lead to because where does this end and that's like one of my biggest
00:43:38.240 issues with a portion of the left their inability to see past the current moment right you're celebrating
00:43:47.760 it but what's what's the long-term goal here is the long-term goal to just have to descend to an
00:43:54.000 environment of endless political assassinations and violence and um if we're gonna have the left go up
00:44:00.160 against the right in terms of violence in terms of bloodshed in terms of shootings i don't know i would
00:44:07.120 just venture to say that the right is probably going to do a better job in you know taking people
00:44:12.560 out than the left is this is just a really disgusting sick ideology and we need to move away from it
00:44:18.560 and again i want to emphasize your personal behavior the way you choose to behave and respond to things on a
00:44:25.200 day-to-day basis has an impact okay be the change you want to see in the world so when you have a huge
00:44:32.000 audience and that audience of young people who look up to you who feel inspired by you hear you
00:44:38.640 essentially minimize political violence or even make excuses for it or deflect by blaming trump for
00:44:46.080 everything well you're essentially i think that when women nag on these shows like the men just
00:44:52.080 naturally tuned it out you see all the other guys she's actually making a valid point but like
00:44:58.240 they're all tuning it out i think they've just they get accustomed to it indoctrinating people to
00:45:03.680 support and normalize political violence we can't be doing that i don't care how people behave on the
00:45:09.920 right that's not going to have an impact on how i personally choose to behave i want to be better than
00:45:16.160 that i want to preach dialogue okay debate have these conversations and you know charlie kirk the last
00:45:24.160 debate he and i had you know dusty would like you to believe that i agree with the right on everything
00:45:28.480 i don't agree with the right on everything we debated about whether or not you have to have
00:45:33.200 children in order to care about the future of this country so we have a debate and it's fine he has a
00:45:39.840 right to his opinions i have the right to mine if you care about democracy the democratic process
00:45:45.520 is reliant on having these types of conversations and reliant on not resorting to violence because
00:45:52.640 you're unable to articulate your arguments effectively against the other side that's
00:45:57.440 that's what i see this assassination all right guys i can't believe she brought that up though
00:46:03.600 i cannot believe she brought up his lawsuits that's insane anyways guys let me know what you
00:46:10.240 think in the comments make sure you like the video um i can't believe anna casparian is the voice
00:46:15.680 of reason right now i can't believe it also anna has an open invite to come on my show i don't i
00:46:21.920 emailed her during this actually see to see if she'd want to come on um i have a show concept and
00:46:30.000 i need some liberals to to do it so i was thinking like tuesday mornings maybe i could do a stream
00:46:37.040 and i could call it hear me out where each side has two hours where you have to hear the other side
00:46:44.480 out on an opinion and i want to do this with a liberal every person has to commit to two shows
00:46:51.600 okay this can be virtual and the reason is because i want it to be equal where you and then at the
00:46:57.920 beginning the person gets to rate how much they agree with the opinion and if at the end you get to
00:47:03.440 see if they moved or not anyways guys like the video subscribe and you know flutter comment section
00:47:09.840 to see if she'll come on like the video i'll see you next time