Pearl - May 03, 2024Do Women Have Rights in Muslim Countries？ ｜ THE SITDOWN ｜ @MohammedHijab
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In this episode, we talk about women's rights in Muslim countries, whether or not women should be allowed to own property, and if polygamy is allowed in Islam. We also discuss the pros and cons of soft-polygamy.
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oh my gosh i had another question so a couple so when i was growing up they always told us that
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like muslim countries they don't have rights and whatever yeah not saying that's true i'm just
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saying this is what we're told and then i interviewed someone that was from saudi arabia
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and that was you know the one place that they always told me like women can't drive there is
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that what you you advocate well i mean now i'm like i mean i know someone whose wife is paralyzed
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because of a woman driving. So are you for that or against that?
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No, no. Well, no, no. I make jokes. Women should be able to drive if they're good drivers,
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but I do know that we cause more accidents based on how much we drive. Men cause more,
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but they drive more. Like you have truckers and stuff.
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I find that interesting. I thought you'd take the pro Saudi position.
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No, it was more like, I kind of understand where they're coming from.
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But, but anyways, don't, don't quote, don't, don't quote me on that.
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But the women vote though, I think, even though the elections are not.
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I mean, anyways, anyways, why is there a conception that women don't have rights in Muslim countries?
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Well, look, I mean, let me tell you something early, right?
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If someone heard, if you had a manifesto of what women should and shouldn't do, including number one, voting, et cetera.
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Most people would say the country that Perli runs would be a country that women don't have as much rights.
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Oh, I'm sure they would. I was like, maybe we'd agree. I don't know.
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So when we say women don't have any rights, I mean, according to whose conception?
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According to the feministic conception, absolutely.
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They would not be happy with a lot of the norms and the traditions of the Muslim world.
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But we have to be very specific as to what we're asking about.
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like if we're asking about women owning property then surely in Islam I mean women were allowed to
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own property before they were allowed to in many parts of the west that was always a thing that
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one can do on the issue of voting I mean we don't have necessarily votes because democracy is is a
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western concept but we had something called pledge of allegiance and that was both men and women were
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allowed to do so for example on the issue of whether a woman has a say in the marriage surely
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she does have a say in the marriage and in fact there's a verse in the Quran that says that a
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woman has as much as the man has in terms of rights except that the man has one degree over her
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so there's it doesn't in the Quran does not embellish the rights of the man as much as the
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western man thinks that it does of course there is such a thing as obedience and of course such
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thing as gender roles of course such thing as polygamy in Islam that man can marry multiple
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wives and the polygyny really what if she says no to it what if she's he says I want wife number
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too and she says no look no one can force anyone to do anything they don't want to do especially
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if she had put that as a stipulation in the contract for marriage and then he can't do it
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if she according to one view another view says that he can still do it because this is god-given
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right but what's your view i take the first view that if she had put the if she had put in the
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contract he has to he has to follow that okay but if she hasn't put in the contract then as he can
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just take the l yeah sorry sorry just take the l for the woman you're saying well if she didn't
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want it it'd be an l right yeah yeah sure but it's not going to be like that because yeah yeah it's
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it in practice well westerners are in soft polygamy anyway so that's that's the thing it's
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like i'm like guys you realize that if you have an ex-boyfriend you're in soft polygamy anyway
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or like if you know if you're in a situationship that's basically polygamy the different the women
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have more rights under islam yeah like in a way yeah i agree with that look but that's why like
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they'll kind of i'm not for polygamy so don't like don't don't misquote that's very interesting i know
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well okay really i how do i put this i i'm not for or against i think people are gonna
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do what they're gonna do um so if you were married then your husband wanted to get a
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second wife what would you say i'd just rather not okay the way he does it i'd say could we not
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well i mean if i have a kid by him like you gotta you gotta stick it out at that what are you gonna
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do go be a single mom like yeah your life will it be better but you would say to him you'd rather
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not but yeah i mean i think what if what if a man was married and wanted you as a second wife
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or third or fourth i'd rather not you know i've had actually somewhat offers like that oh really
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i'm okay from people in the muslim community um yeah but not i don't want to but like
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Probably fully serious because they can marry a Christian woman.
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No, but I find that interesting because, I mean, it seems to me that you're...
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Maybe you're affected by feminism a little bit here.
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I think, okay, I think Christians are hypocritical.
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because the christians will say the muslims are so bad because they do the polygamy you guys can't
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have polygamy yada yada yada and okay maybe one part of me understands where they're coming from
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it's kind of weird to me for a guy to have multiple why that's odd really wait wait but
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i think it's hypocritical because i mean ladies how many of us were virgins on our wedding days
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like it's like the muslim community is like 90 yeah well okay i'm talking about like i'm saying
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this is why it's hypocritical how many women have been with a cheating ex-boyfriend like everyone
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how many women in the west have like have shared a man at some see that stuff doesn't apply to the
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muslim community i understand but i'm saying like in the west it's like i think it's really
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hypocritical for them to judge the polygamy so harshly when we are effectively doing the same
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thing because most women share a man at some point and even in christian because most christians
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like statistically in the west three percent of women are waiting for a religious reason for
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marriage so it's not like even the trad con women are doing it like i just think it's a bit
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hypocritical let me be clear like on the the most contentious issues that affect women today in
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islam i would say number one is um polygamy or the man that can have up to four wives at one time
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all men cannot do the same. A man can marry a Christian or a Jew, whereas a woman can only
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marry a Muslim man. Well, that makes sense. Because it's like you're following, you're
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supposed to, well, even the Christian point of view, like if you submit, I think it's weird
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when women don't take their husband's religion, because it's like, if you're supposed to trust
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him in all things. Sure, no, we wouldn't go that far. We would say a woman still has to think for
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herself. I mean, definitely. Well, yeah, but why would you be with a guy where you don't trust
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is judgment that's no but with religion everyone has to have their own judgment well yeah i think
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yeah i get you okay so the third thing is obviously on this point obedience okay so you
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gotta obey the husband uh number four is um inheritance because there's some disparity in
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the way the inheritance is distributed not always necessarily not favoring the woman but it's just
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not 50 50 at all cases um sometimes actually favors the woman it depends on the situation
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and finally i would say the fifth most contentious issue is uh that affects women today
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i think that's it i think these are the four big issues you know are we allowed to
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we're not allowed to show her hair right yeah okay the dress code fair enough yeah
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well i would think that's because i've heard um i haven't seen too much of lauren southern's old
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stuff but she recently did a hit piece on the red pill so i saw the beginning and i guess she was
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very anti-islam and i don't know i wasn't really that politically involved during this time but
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she um was saying like under sharia law you have to cover your hair is that okay for a woman but
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there's no punishment if she doesn't do it like it's not so that for example a woman comes out
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into a muslim country okay and she doesn't have a headscarf on what's going to happen is he going
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to whip her is it going to stone her there's no such punishment that's prescribed in islam you
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know what i mean so this is an obligation but there's no penal punishment that if she doesn't
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do it then this is going to happen these are i would say fair enough these are the five things
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that are you would consider to be from a feminist perspective wrong obviously from our perspective