00:00:29.800we don't need men the way that they used to. Nobody needs men! The future is female.
00:00:36.120Men and women are drifting further apart and society is crumbling because of it.
00:00:42.920A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage. You've kind of got the trad
00:00:47.000con versus red pill thing. This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.
00:00:52.200You need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men. Marriage is a
00:00:57.080bond and it's a sacred bond it's a machine designed to extract resources from you now many
00:01:02.280of the red-pilled have taken the position that is bad for men to get married
00:01:06.840hannah pearl davis or just pearly things one of the most controversial faces in all of the internet
00:01:14.040she goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men because if me and you were in a
00:01:18.040business contract you would never sign a contract where i am paid to leave gee what could go wrong
00:01:23.160there. 74% or something of divorces are initiated by women. Men have
00:01:28.200everything to lose, primarily their own children. Men get killed by the courts
00:01:32.580and by divorce laws. I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of
00:01:36.720equity, not courts of law. Because in family court you don't need evidence to
00:01:40.500accuse someone of abuse. You need no evidence. When you guys say get married
00:01:44.100young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for and you're
00:01:46.860not gonna be there when their entire life falls apart. I interviewed them on
00:01:50.700the other side i didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old how much did you spend trying to get
00:01:56.220him back on legal fees alone was about 200 000 before you know it you're homeless you're literally
00:02:01.100just thrown out into the street we absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women wives are taught
00:02:05.740to leave their husbands and then daughters grow up without their fathers family is a foundation
00:02:10.220of society every problem in society comes from single mother homes a lot of women will just chase
00:02:15.340this negative rabbit hole of happiness endless happiness feminism's biggest failures is it lies
00:02:19.980to win we tell women to date as many guys as possible we tell them to put off family into
00:02:23.420marriage you are allowed to leave your perfect husband you are allowed to end a relationship
00:02:29.420with a really great boyfriend oh freeze your eggs have an abortion what you're evil i don't think
00:02:34.780there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail right like if you
00:02:39.020have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic naturally the outcome is going
00:02:43.580to be that it's going to fail anyway it's self-sabotage that's the thing like women are so
00:02:47.500willing to leave marriages because they're not happy this is not about happiness the most
00:02:52.140important thing is the children and the problem is we have a modern society where it's me me me
00:02:57.500my feelings leave when i feel like it instead of doing what's best for the kids
00:03:01.660this myth that we live in an age of male privilege where's my male privilege they think well men have
00:03:07.300all the rights they have all the power privilege patriarchal system that we have why doesn't our
00:03:12.200society care about men's rights i have no friends no wife and no social life men are alone in this
00:03:18.460situation men are homeless men are thinking about eating guns i've seen so many men on on the brink
00:03:24.060of suicide and they didn't do anything wrong how are you equal if the men are the ones that have
00:03:29.620to fight and die to defend the country the men are the ones that build and maintain all the
00:03:34.740infrastructure women are helplessly dependent upon men the so-called deaths of despair from
00:03:40.420suicide overdose to alcohol three times higher among men than among women culture is telling
00:03:46.300men you are no good you got to get your act together i think men have failed themselves
00:03:50.120what kind of a man are you what kind of a woman are you going to attract if men are in trouble
00:03:55.000so are women everybody knows this is a huge problem but nobody wants to admit it every
00:04:00.440single woman at the table said they wanted a man 500k 500k 300k 200k am i crazy everything is
00:04:06.180really set up against you to fail as a man. If men make less than women, women don't want to marry
00:04:11.020them. So you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men? Women. I don't want to be
00:04:17.740an independent woman anymore. I don't want to be a strong independent woman. I'm over it. When is
00:04:22.840it going to be my turn? Where are we meeting the men that don't stop? I can't keep having these
00:04:26.840same conversations. The only simp here is you, Pearl. You simp for men. No, I think you simp for
00:04:31.280women. She's a provocateur. She says stupid stuff, but Pearl is right about this. It's already
00:04:35.440happening it's just not out in the open yet now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairy
00:04:39.680tale ending because men don't want a wife and women can't find a husband the future if everybody
00:04:45.040follows your path is there is no future we go into population decline and our economy goes into
00:04:50.320decline civilization will crumble the american story does not end well this is an existential
00:04:56.960crisis, failing young men. What is up, everybody? How are you? Welcome to another episode of Pearl
00:05:13.900Daily here at the Audacity Network. Thank you guys so much for tuning in. So the first thing
00:05:19.840we're going to do today is we are going to thank the awesome, talented, amazing men that donated
00:05:28.200to our divorce documentary fundraiser. So as you guys know, my mission when I came into this space
00:05:33.940was I just wanted to have a divorce documentary. That's all I wanted to do. And unfortunately,
00:05:40.380they demonetized me for a year and a half. They completely slandered my name. They put me on a
00:05:45.300government watch list um and it made it pretty difficult to finish the divorce documentary so
00:05:51.360now we're asking for donations um so if you guys can the link is in the description terry thank
00:05:57.540you for the 25 donation sunit um thank you for the donation anonymous 50 bucks and soniel 25 if
00:06:05.240you guys donate during the show i will read it at the end also if you want to learn how to be a
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00:06:16.560We're not going to do the classes today because I just have a lot to say on this topic, so I think
00:06:21.300we're going to do it probably not tomorrow. Tomorrow we're doing a panel show. Thursday.
00:06:27.040Thursday we're going to do our How to Be a YouTuber class where every week I go through
00:06:30.780my analytics and you guys can learn too. So thank you for sitting with me through this sales pitch.
00:06:36.680All right. So today we're talking about virgin women. So last show, I did a reaction to a video
00:06:45.140and I said, men say they want virgin women until they see the virgin women available.
00:06:51.980I said, men, they constantly gaslight the same way women gaslight us
00:06:57.020about what we find attractive. Sometimes men do the exact same thing to us.
00:07:03.260now remember in girl world we only care about what attractive men think now i'm not saying
00:07:12.960this is right i'm not saying this is a good thing but we have a new series on this channel
00:07:19.100and it's called it is what it is so this is a segment on pearl daily where
00:07:24.180i talk about the way the world is not the way i want it to be not the way i wish it was
00:07:28.620You know, I had a friend of mine say that should is the worst word in the human language because it's just a wish list.
00:07:41.360And I realized that I myself as a YouTuber, I use this term just a lot.
00:07:47.560And I actually almost got embarrassed thinking about it after I came to this realization.
00:07:54.900You know, when you're a YouTuber and you talk for a living, you're forced to deal with uncomfortable truths about yourself because if you don't notice them, the world notices them for you.
00:08:06.540So one of them that I learned was that when I was younger, I was very idealistic and unrealistic.
00:08:13.380And so I would say things like, you know, I can't say that anymore.
00:17:31.000All right, to explore the question of why the sequencing, can I assume it on this?
00:17:36.520To explore the question of why the sequencing of family events has changed, I fielded a survey about 3,000 women age 18 to 44, and the survey was another wave of long-running surveys called the Demographic Intelligence of Family Survey, which polls American women about their family attitudes, fertility preferences, and lifestyle twice a year to provide market research for companies that make products for children and moms, hence why it only surveyed women.
00:18:04.400I assessed sequencing in a straightforward way. I asked women to arrange six relationship stages
00:18:10.500based on what they thought would be the best order for them personally. The stages were getting
00:18:15.400married, moving in together, having a child, buying a house, meeting each other's families,
00:18:19.580and having sex. By forcing respondents to put these stages in order, I directly measured
00:18:24.460women's views of what they would personally prefer for their own relationships. In other words,
00:18:29.120I measured the extent to which high rates of cohabitation and premarital sex reflect explicit
00:18:36.580value differences. All right. So women put the order women want relationships to happen. They
00:18:43.980want to meet the family. They want to have sex, move in together, then get married and buy a house
00:18:49.100and have a child. Contrary to popular Hollywood driven narratives that frame meeting the family
00:18:58.260has a huge relationship step that people want to postpone. Women overwhelmingly selected meeting
00:19:03.060each other's families as their first preferred step out of the sixth. Now, to me, that's just
00:19:08.400a signal status. Like women love signaling status to the family. On average, meeting the family was
00:19:15.000selected was the second listed item. While this may seem counterintuitive, it's very straightforward.
00:19:21.220Many women say they prefer to be in the relationship with someone who already knows
00:19:25.100their life and background not a stranger other ways uh other now remember women are gaslighting
00:19:31.140here because if that were true then we would be meeting in our hometowns and not on hinge okay
00:19:36.520otherwise women may explicitly desire familiar approval for partners furthermore it's best
00:19:42.820to it's important to remember the question asked women about what would be best not typical if
00:19:48.340women knew up front that their potential partner was their best partner they might move in faster
00:19:53.600on meeting families. Okay. My point is it, um, 78% of women in this survey picked an onboarding
00:20:03.860that prelaced home ownership before children. Um, 40 to 50, uh, 50% of newborns are born to renters.
00:20:12.080Uh, okay. Uh, the survey also asked women if housing costs has, okay. I don't, I don't really
00:20:19.580care i really wanted to just put um women want to marry before kids but they definitely want the
00:20:26.800sex before marriage the majority of women sex at the first relationship stage and if we look at
00:20:34.740what women are picking right women aren't really picking to wait until they're married
00:20:40.460we're really not you know i mean it's just not something that we personally are choosing
00:20:48.360Okay, let me check the chat really quick.
00:20:52.420So I really want to just kill this idea that women want to wait until we're married.
00:49:21.540I think when I started, I wish I had more life experience because some of the takes I had just weren't the best, but they get better every year.
00:49:42.360But the virgins I've met today, I would say in general, they're either not that attractive.
00:49:46.980They have huge ego, zero relationship skills.
00:49:50.220And I want to stress, if they're over a certain age and have not lost their virginity, it's really not because of morals, but generally because they are either very unattractive in some way, grossly overrank themselves, or just don't have access to the type of men they want.
00:50:06.840And the mids suffer the most that try to hold out, because you really, as a mid, you've got to lower your price.
00:50:12.720and these churches, telling a mid to wait till marriage is like the worst advice you could give
00:50:19.100a mid. You can give a beautiful woman that advice, but a mid, yeah, right. Men are not waiting for a
00:50:24.740mid. I'll tell you that. You know what I mean? They're just not, I mean, maybe you could do an
00:50:31.480age gap and you could shoot for it. But if you want men your age, I don't see that working. I
00:50:36.540don't. Um, all right. So stories I've heard from men, um, of men that have taken women's virginities.
00:50:45.700One, he took her virginity. She became a flight attendant, got a tattoo and didn't really care
00:50:50.380after. Um, usually hot women have a starter boyfriend that they leave. Midwomen tend to
00:50:58.080lose it to a Chad, either in a situationship or a one night stand. Um, some of the mids care,
00:51:03.780some don't. Maybe it depends on the Chad. Do men with choice choose virgins? Yes, men with choice
00:51:12.960do want virgins, but they do not want virgins more than they value their freedom and ability
00:51:18.560to bang multiple women. So a lot of the guys with choice really are not going to wait till marriage
00:51:25.100because they've really, once they've taken a few girls virginities, they don't really think it's
00:51:29.680this like great thing that they thought it was because some of the women were bitches after
00:51:35.280and they kind of it puts it into perspective they're like oh my gosh what if i committed
00:51:39.560the rest of my life to this woman and she flipped a switch you know um chads take a lot of women's
00:51:48.680virginities um and chads aren't going to stay with you just because you're a virgin if you're
00:51:53.880a bitch, they'll dump you and leave you. I would argue that religious women are also more likely
00:51:59.600to call you abusive on the way out because they're more concerned with the reputation of the liberal
00:52:03.580women. Now, I do want to, I don't want to give the virgins too much smoke. Obviously, the pros
00:52:12.040is that women are more able to bond the less partners they've had. But, and that is true.
00:52:22.260However, the virgins of today, the virgins of yesterday did not have social media.
00:52:49.040And then I'm going to put it in the chat.
00:52:51.660And on Twitter. Give me a second. Am I cooking or am I not cooking? Maybe I'm wrong. I could be wrong. But the question is, what? I missed the naive, innocent pearl a few years ago. It's been fun watching. Yeah, it's gone. This is why men like younger women, because now I'm the annoying one.
00:53:15.820I have to be the annoying one being like, yeah, that's not real.
00:53:22.460Even the men, they want to be lied to too. Yeah. I mean, unfortunately, you know,
00:53:29.660when I started, yeah, I was, I was very naive. I was very naive. I was, I was, I was, I was,
00:53:38.200hold on I gotta log in so yeah the damn it I did not I'm gonna I'm gonna do this on my phone I know
00:53:48.740this is kind of annoying but I forgot my password so I gotta I gotta so I want to know you guys's
00:53:55.720experience so I want to know have you guys banged virgins what was your experience with it
00:54:03.300um i want to know if you think i'm wrong if i'm am i contradicting myself
00:54:09.380maybe i am um i'm open to you know i'll take the smoke it's fine gabrielle says so guys shouldn't
00:54:18.120wait that would be stupid in 2025 i mean you can wait i mean and i'm not here to tell men how to
00:54:24.920live i'm really really not um but you can do whatever you want if you think i'm full of shit
00:54:31.580you know but you're taking an already unfavorable deal i wouldn't recommend it i would not like
00:54:37.900because you're basically the only leverage you have as a man because you can't be in a traditional
00:54:44.220marriage in 2025 it doesn't exist anybody that says they are it's cosplay it's literally cosplay
00:54:51.580because in order to be in a traditional marriage you have to be able to enforce
00:54:56.220you have to be able to lay that like you know imagine if we had a police officer right and
00:55:03.260when i interact with a cop i have to submit right i have to say yes sir no sir i always like when
00:55:09.420they're coming up i put my hands on the wheels to know i don't have anything you know i make
00:55:14.380them feel comfortable whatever if if they arrest me i go and the reason i go is because i know they
00:55:20.240have the power to ruin my life. But if you marry a woman, you're automatically giving her more
00:55:27.700power to ruin your life. The only leverage you have is women hate being cheated on.
00:55:32.920So if women know that you're going to cheat if you treat her bad, that's enforcement. It's not,
00:55:38.520you know, you might say it's immoral, but it's immoral to steal the kids, right?
00:55:45.420Making her work for a ring and saying, I'm not going to marry you if you don't do X, Y,
00:55:49.860and z and behave or at least i get like 10 years out of this now every man has to pick his own
00:55:56.400strategy but what the conservatives do is they tell men to give up they say you're immoral and
00:56:04.140you are wrong for giving up your leverage because you need to now basically they tell men to be
00:56:12.920traditional when the women aren't that's not on the menu you can't order that on the menu
00:56:19.500um yeah so i sent this to the to this is shaw if he comes in i'm gonna let him in
00:56:28.540i'm in control of the mute now by the way so i can i can kick you guys which is amazing before
00:56:35.820i wasn't in control doug mpa uh what was have you banged virgins how did it go yeah i have um
00:56:44.780um surprisingly a lot of mormons a lot of mormon girls i was that the black dude that was
00:56:51.980um these poor mormon girls grew up in a repressive
00:56:56.180religious household and their revenge was to sleep with the black dude
00:57:00.860that's always fun wait here we go i like this one yeah and so was your experience that they
00:57:13.040were super bonded i i would say so would you was your how many virginities did you take i guess is
00:57:19.360my first question uh in my life six okay how many were bonded to you five oh cool and what happened
00:57:31.040why didn't you marry him what went wrong so i went through um my very first relationship
00:57:37.960in my life was five years okay and then i moved off to college and after five years i was like
00:57:45.020yeah i know so um most yeah so uh that's what it was you know i started running into these girls
00:57:53.780in my undergrad and that happened and i was like nope i spent five years in relationship
00:58:00.200from my late teens to early 20s i'm not going to do that again but it's interesting because in a
00:58:05.500way the women must not have like how i put it like when men are in a relationship phase virgins
00:58:13.460never pick them do you know what i mean say that one more time so women have a menu right you know
00:58:20.460how men have a menu and women have a menu that analogy yes and women can order a man in a
00:58:26.140relationship phase but we order the fun guy yeah 100 true and so it's like if women really wanted
00:58:32.300to wait why did you order the fun guy it and also um the you sleep with a virgin right and
00:58:41.340she's bonded to you but then you still have the risk it's it's a screwed up situation all the way
00:58:49.440around you don't want to wait till sex no you don't want to wait till marriage to have sex because
00:58:54.060um a man doesn't truly audit a woman for a relationship until after sex happens you don't
00:59:00.480want to uh pearl i'm gonna put you this way guys put up with all sorts of stuff until they get sex
00:59:08.200then you sleep with the woman you're like why is her voice so annoying why is she nagging me all
00:59:12.740the time why is she chew with their mouth open i'm serious yeah before sex and these guys were
00:59:18.160dumb enough to marry these women uh without having sex with them and then if they're stuck with
00:59:23.800the woman after sex happens um and so even if you're not married you sleep with the girl
00:59:31.860you bond with her but then you still have to run risk she's gonna change your perception of her
00:59:38.880is gonna change after you have sex with her then her perception of you is gonna change after you
00:59:43.440marry her understand i'm saying yeah so they get married they bang and they're like oh shit that
00:59:50.100was starfish sex there's no better sex than the sex before marriage because that's when women
00:59:58.400after are working for the ring you know what i mean yeah how many guys uh in the chat never heard
01:00:04.640i'm too tired or i have a headache until they got married yeah or actually nowadays you hear that
01:00:13.140after you move in with a woman you move in with the woman all of a sudden i have a migraine
01:00:17.860i have a headache my job was too tough and i'm too tired yeah cooked
01:00:24.660um i'm gonna bring glenn up glenn no yeah what's up man no much no much how you living you guys
01:00:36.220doing good good how are you i'm well i'm well just busy working on this non-profit
01:00:42.060nice what's your experience with virgin women now it's been a long time because i have a rule
01:00:50.140because i don't i don't if you're a virgin at any age i don't care i run away from you you're a
01:00:55.140problem why okay because they become too clingy like you know you like tell me see guys don't
01:01:04.480tell them up front like hey this is just a thing we having a good time i'm not gonna be your
01:01:08.520husband i'm not trying to be your husband but then after you give them the d they think that
01:01:13.000you're their husband yeah but you've been married before i know so but i'm saying like before he's
01:01:18.660like i know before you were in the market for marriage at once yeah yeah yeah so it like what
01:01:26.240would be wrong with a clingy woman and that's you know because like what what doug said now now we
01:01:33.480realized we have we're we have we now aware of all your annoyingness like we tolerated it and
01:01:39.620we realized you know after the sex versus your irritation level that you guys give us it's just
01:01:47.100not worth it it's just like you know no no no you know and here's the thing though um
01:01:54.120women a bunch of women always say they're burgess doug you know how many women have
01:01:59.320probably told you that i've never done this before we haven't i think i think that i've never done
01:02:07.580this before is a lot on the version conversation though i mean well i've never you've never had
01:02:14.660girls that say that they've never done this before like in the half revolving involving sex
01:02:19.240yeah but they never claim to be versions a lot of women that say i've never done this before
01:02:24.180will say that about um anything besides missionary sex you know what i'm saying
01:02:29.700oh yeah you know i've never okay i've never swallowed before or you know i've never taken
01:02:36.540it in the back door or you know you know i've never yeah i've heard them say that but i wouldn't
01:02:41.220assume that a woman that i've never done this before is a virgin i've i think it's still a
01:02:46.260strong kind of a different kind of thing if a woman says i'm a virgin and she's not but
01:02:50.580yes i would agree that women do lie about being virgins though so here's the thing i don't think
01:02:56.220virginity is that important i could care less about your virginity um because one i can never
01:03:01.660validate that verify that or you know fact checking that pussy does not come with the fact
01:03:06.760check there's no badge check that comes i can't get a report on that badge check okay um
01:03:13.740since there's no badge check you just want me to take your word for it well you know what
01:03:19.160women lie men lie you know so i'm just gonna assume that you have a past so with that being
01:03:25.300said it's just like i don't care if she's a virgin or not how does she treat you if she
01:03:30.420doesn't treat you right if she doesn't treat you the way that you want your future wife to treat
01:03:35.640you then it's a pass bro i have a question for pearl and glenn real fast do you think that
01:03:44.640oh i'm sorry go ahead i want to welcome this is shaw to the panel hi pearl thanks for having me
01:03:50.360again what's going on good to see you glenn hey how you doing in a second we'll have you go
01:03:55.300through the history you know i've been trying to get a hold of you so really but i wanted yeah
01:04:00.560anytime glenn i'm i like your stuff man and thank you you're able to pass on this on this question
01:04:06.460if you don't want it but have you been virgin how was it uh no not for me you know i didn't start
01:04:12.680dating till a little later. And the way I date now, to be honest, it's not really a concern for
01:04:18.500me. I've not really cared. So. Okay, cool. Doug, MPO, what was the question?
01:04:28.080Tradcon's trying to say that a woman saving herself until marriage is supposed to be some
01:04:33.040kind of predictor of good behavior or virtue. Like, do you think that there's any truth to
01:04:39.740that at all no I don't think so I really don't know because do you know what every time I've
01:04:44.940met a woman that's a virgin like 90% of the time she's a bitch who uses it to like
01:04:51.560no no okay because because if you're like yeah I'm a whore you kind of got to be nice
01:04:57.140but like every time I meet okay I've met and the thing is women that are virgins and they
01:05:07.140want to wait till they're married i did know a girl in high school who did that and she actually
01:05:12.060was a sweetheart but she was done by 21 she was not if you're that's why i said over a certain
01:05:17.920age there's something wrong with you you're not about it because girls that are about it
01:05:22.560she went to school she went to like i'd have to i don't want to dox anybody so she went to a school
01:05:29.940that i'll just say her type was at it had all the stem majors she was like i am going to marry a
01:05:35.460doctor and she said it she went there she did it housewife but she was done by 21 that's why like
01:05:42.160when I meet them and they're like 24 I'm like I don't think you're about this like I just I don't
01:05:48.800think you're I don't think you mean that you know I think you just like the like clout because in a
01:05:54.240lot of church communities they get clout for like telling everybody that it's like um in the
01:05:59.600attention economy so i was hoping i'm sure you could go through maybe some of the history of
01:06:06.400marriage because i was kind of curious what did men get in the past versus today um now obviously
01:06:13.280we can't verify the virginity stuff so i was more curious in terms of like dowry um in terms of
01:06:20.460women staying like age like what age women married at before like that sort of thing yeah sure i mean
01:06:28.160it's definitely a lot, but I'll condense as much as I can. And you know what most people today are
01:06:33.740familiar with goes back to about the 1950s. That's what the Tradcons are selling, and that's what
01:06:39.460they consider traditional marriage. Prior to that was the dowry system, which we discussed during
01:06:44.560our sit down. And that was actually here not too long ago. I mean, it got abolished in France in
01:06:50.560the 1960s. In Italy, it was in the 1970s. In Greece and Spain, it was in the 1980s. England
01:06:57.620was kind of the first to push it away and the u.s after that was following it but but in that system
01:07:04.740if a woman did not have a dowry she was not able to get married i have a newspaper clipping of the
01:07:11.140pope handing out dowries um in the 1800s i believe and the women it says in the newspaper clipping
01:07:18.740would now be able to obtain a husband or have the money to join a convent basically it was up to
01:07:23.620to them at that point so this dowry system was what marriage was in the west um so not just in
01:07:30.780other places but in the west for a very long time all throughout uh christian europe prior to that
01:07:37.260in the roman empire and prior to that in ancient greece and it's actually kind of a big clue
01:07:43.560because the one of the other systems is bride price which you see in the old testament that's
01:07:47.720the mohar um but if you see an ancient society and they're a dowry paying society you can pretty
01:07:53.100much guess that they're a lot more advanced because bride price societies are typically
01:07:57.780poorer. So prior to dowry societies, you had the bride price, which is there was a set amount,
01:08:05.540a uniform amount. It's not a bidding war. There is a uniform amount for how much someone is expected
01:08:11.740to compensate her family, not her, but her family in order to marry her. So going back prior to
01:08:19.460dowry, we had bride price. And nestled within all that is changes in family law. Divorce and
01:08:27.800polygyny tend to be a little higher with bride price paying societies. In early dowry societies,
01:08:35.400that's where monogamy starts to come in. But divorce was still really a civil matter.
01:08:41.220There were ways to get divorced and there was divorce laws around that. Then as Christianity
01:08:45.600takes over and it slowly changes in europe um it becomes no divorce so you only have annulments
01:08:52.060and things like that going for you know almost 2 000 years all the way up until um industrialization
01:08:59.800and things starting to change basically and then you get um you know the u.s which as soon as the
01:09:07.480american revolution happens they're already pushing back against the church of england and
01:09:11.000say we want divorce to be a thing we can do and then you start to see this system of at-fault
01:09:15.440divorce being created because they didn't have anything to fall back on because for 2000 years
01:09:20.260there was no divorce just annulment then you start to see marriage wrestled away from the church
01:09:25.380and put into the hands of the state and divorces used to happen in the state legislature and then
01:09:31.580it started being taken over by the civil courts and they started coming up with cause which would
01:09:36.160have been adultery I think that's what it was in New York early on and all these kinds of things
01:09:40.360now to relate this to virginity a little bit because I know that's what you're talking about
01:09:45.100the way these different systems of marriage come up is really very much related to how property
01:09:53.640is transmitted throughout society and how the economy works. In bride price paying societies,
01:10:01.320this is a long time ago, women contributed the major labor value to agriculture. Okay. So the
01:10:10.300reason you paid the bride price was because her family was losing her labor value and you are
01:10:17.360giving them a uniform amount because that's going to allow them to procure another woman either for
01:10:23.080the guy who might have his second wife now or one of the sons in the family who might be getting his
01:10:27.080first wife and then this creates a circulating fund and it goes around and you got kind of a
01:10:32.820in exchange there okay and now she's working and her real income which is her labor on the farm
01:10:39.460is contributing to the household wealth when the plow is invented because these poorer bride price
01:10:45.000societies used to use a hoe and digging stick i can even share my screen and show you some of
01:10:50.020some sources if you like i don't want to complicate it but i do have them here pulled up
01:10:53.500then what happens is is a lot more wealth starts to be generated and you start to get
01:10:58.380rich families middle class families lower class families and when that happens there's a lot more
01:11:04.600concern about property transmission. And what happens is you start to see the dowry system
01:11:10.480spring up. Now, the value on virginity and the amount of energy it takes to keep a woman a virgin
01:11:16.120starts to increase as there's higher stakes for property being transmitted throughout generations.
01:11:22.540So in a bride price paying society, having to basically guard her is less of an investment
01:11:29.100because she's probably going to get married around puberty. Okay. Now, when the dowry system comes in,
01:11:34.400pushes back marriage not to like what it is today where people are getting married at 28 or 30 but
01:11:40.160to like 20 you know 18 to like 20 or something like that because it takes time to set up the
01:11:45.680dowry for her to get married and if you have a and so virginity matters because the statuses of
01:11:52.160the families are important but beyond that if she gets pregnant by some guy that's not on equal
01:11:57.440footing with her family you now have a bastard because you don't have genetic tests back then
01:12:01.280this bastard is going to have a higher trouble of of having any kind of integration with society
01:12:07.000because how are you going to get this guy married we don't know who the dad is we don't he doesn't
01:12:10.120have an inheritance request coming to him we can't negotiate this now if it's a daughter
01:12:14.440we don't know there's not much contribution for a dowry except what her family may already have
01:12:20.180to give her so guarding her virginity matters a lot because it's going to affect property
01:12:24.660transmission for this family so there's an incentive to do that now i know this is me
01:12:29.520probably distilling this down to a lot of just economic and property and money kind of concerns
01:12:35.460yes yes but you know and then there's the spiritual aspect of this obviously religion
01:12:40.480plays a role but you know typically religion helps us through these changes in our lives and
01:12:44.720things like that and so that's kind of where it goes right then we go to this at fault system
01:12:50.460and at fault is heavily influenced by what's called the love match okay and as you see the
01:12:55.240dowry system go away you start to see i mean you start to see media coming in you know the printing
01:13:01.920press came in in the 1400s you started to see tales of romantic chivalry being printed cheaper
01:13:08.000now than ever and then as this started going on and industrialization and all these things came
01:13:13.480it changed women's labor value in terms of what they can do um romantic stories were were really
01:13:20.460big it's it's becoming part of the psyche but still in a lot of places the dowry system reigns
01:13:25.180supreme you know even in germany we have data uh from a city in germany where it was required for
01:13:31.980both parties to register their assets uh prior to the marriage and you can chart this out i have a
01:13:40.140paper on this too i can show you guys how do you know that was not just in that specific city like
01:13:45.920what percent of people did this i'm just curious oh because everybody did this from top to bottom
01:13:51.440i have we have so many sources on this it's not even funny i mean we have stuff that's
01:13:56.900contemporaneous with the times we have academic writings about this um so so we know we do know
01:14:03.280exactly how it worked um and we can point back to it so and look at a ton of examples it was more
01:14:08.920in the day there was just way more like the whole family money was riding on this on this girl not
01:14:13.900being a whore well yeah there was a lot of that because i mean you know if if you ruin your family
01:14:20.060status they might have other siblings they're trying to get married i mean it would just
01:14:23.940complicate a lot of things and then you know all of a sudden she's at the tavern one night and we
01:14:28.820don't know who gave it to her and we can't prove that and then you got you know these mouths to
01:14:32.920feed over here we don't know who it is um and all this kind of stuff and then you know as we come
01:14:39.520closer because the question is is marriage worth it um especially from trad or like that you know
01:14:45.040you'll ask you'll say parallel you'll say marriage is a bad deal for men which i 100 agree with
01:14:50.500especially the way that we do it today and the trad cons will come and try to argue with you
01:14:55.940about that but we can provably show that marriage is a bad deal for men because there is so much
01:15:01.380literature i got newspaper clippings i got academic journals that show that people who got married
01:15:07.020their their wealth levels tended to match and that's how it was it was arranged so the woman
01:15:14.000always came with this property in a lot of places the dowry was a whole house i mean in italy in
01:15:20.160england there's a so not only do you not get a house you have to take a girl with a bad credit
01:15:24.960score like yeah and you don't even get the free trial hey shot yeah i wanted to ask you about the
01:15:36.400current situation in china sure how there's so in rural china there's like 19 million more men
01:15:44.640than women and first off remember pearl how you always say that like rural women will move to the
01:15:51.040cities a lot of of these women want to move to the cities and to forego that they're charging rural
01:15:58.800men absorbent amounts of money on average like 19 to 20 000 so they'll charge city men cheaper
01:16:06.720because if they get to marry in the city where the schools are better and stuff so the it's
01:16:12.480they're not expected to be versions or anything like that it's just out of sheer availability
01:16:17.760and they're trying to push the government to abolish this whole bride price thing because
01:16:22.320in certain areas of china it's gotten out of control yeah china is an interesting place
01:16:27.760historically because it's such a big place i mean you've seen bride price and you've seen dowry
01:16:32.480systems occur there uh typically for rural areas you would see more of a bride price system
01:16:38.080and then in certain places where in the cities where there's more urbanization and class
01:16:41.680differentiation you would see you would see dowry systems um they're in some trouble there because
01:16:47.680you know they had communism for a bit and with communism coming in that got rid of a need for a
01:16:52.960a lot of like these kinds of concerns because it's suddenly government daddy now and it's just
01:16:58.320it's completely different um you can argue our robust welfare system over here has caused a lot
01:17:03.580of problems maybe we can talk about that later oh yeah boy but then they had their one child policy
01:17:07.540and all that which really skewed the population numbers um a lot you know and even in the past
01:17:15.420um you know i read something i was reading this book from like a hundred years ago this isn't just
01:17:20.380than China, but this is also in England, and they were looking at England and India.
01:17:25.060There was less men, and there was more women, not only because of wars and things like that,
01:17:30.820but also because a baby that's a male's head is a little bit bigger than a girl's. So there was a
01:17:37.240lot more infant mortality with boys. So this would affect the numbers, especially going through
01:17:44.880industrialization and these kinds of things. But that's an interesting aside. So what they're
01:17:48.660dealing with over there and i've seen some of those videos i don't know how many of them are
01:17:51.880true because they're all translated but i believe them for the most part where a lot of guys are
01:17:56.020having trouble they're either having to leave or get brides from somewhere else but then there's
01:17:59.620also a lot of leftover women who want so much that they don't get married and that's becoming
01:18:06.620a phenomena over there too to where it would be especially if they're living in the city
01:18:11.860and it's it's about status it's about trying to secure a husband that's going to you know have a
01:18:19.540higher income then they need a dowry system to do that for her and that's the only way you know
01:18:24.320like there's all these issues because the government have has come in and made all these
01:18:28.160changes even a thailand's another interesting example in that they they paid the bride price
01:18:34.620over there but they were technically polygynous it was not illegal for a guy to marry a second
01:18:38.780woman until the 1930s when the king just said we're not doing this anymore we're doing monogamy
01:18:43.660but they never changed from bride price to dowry so it's kind of you know this weird thing so
01:18:48.540there's been a lot of like people coming in here and messing up the systems for what what they used
01:18:53.100to be basically would you say the biggest problem in this is that i'm gonna i'm gonna read super
01:18:59.500chats for one second and then we'll welcome sean to the panel so um caesar says this is shaw always
01:19:05.020has something interesting to say yes he does um doug i didn't know you were such a tyrone i'm not
01:19:12.300angry just disappointed you should be proud what do you need guys babe thank you for the uh cat
01:19:21.100super chat uh silveria low body count is loyal they said get her early they said let's ask mxr
01:19:27.740henry how genie turned out after 10 plus years of success 100k a month income um yeah okay so again
01:19:37.100my point is not and maybe they're saying i'm contradicting myself but the original deal i
01:19:44.620thought was men got virgins so i guess that's what it should be but that's not what it is and i just
01:19:49.740don't see virgins sticking around today um even the ones today it just seems like there's something
01:19:55.100off but sean let me know what you think on the topic um feel free to add on either that question
01:20:01.740or so anything else that was said go ahead welcome to the show no a lot was said so i don't know
01:20:06.940where we at but shout out to everybody shout out to everybody on the stream right now so uh go ahead
01:20:15.260go ahead bro so we were talking about how um in my experience i always thought that virgin women
01:20:21.100were more moral or something but usually over a certain age there's just something wrong with them
01:20:27.660do you agree disagree have you ever taken someone's virginity um and i also made the
01:20:34.460point that virginity isn't what it used to be um women used to stay now even you can take
01:20:42.700someone's virginity and they'll be on a flight to dubai the next week you don't know so yeah
01:20:48.460Yeah, they're definitely going to be on that flight to Dubai.
01:20:50.900Now, I'm not going to say nothing about if I took virginity.
01:20:55.860But what I would say is your assumption that they're good or bad.
01:21:00.220I mean, it's quite rare for somebody to have that.
01:21:03.620And if they do have that virginity in this point in time, then I don't know.
01:21:07.500You have to really see why they maintain that virginity.
01:21:10.420But you were right earlier in your assumption.
01:21:12.640They're going to probably leverage that in a relationship or leverage that in their dealings.
01:21:17.920in the marketplace. I think what was just being said about marriages in China and marriages also
01:21:25.060in mating in, what's it called? Thailand while I'm here. Yeah, it's crazy. You're definitely
01:21:32.860paying. You're paying buffalo, gold, land. Girls are raking up on that. As far as in China,
01:21:39.940it's very bad in China. The guys are getting crushed. Girls actually have mating calculators,
01:21:45.560so they know how much they could equate for worth. So it's a crazy marketplace. And I think things
01:21:52.020have changed dramatically. One thing I would say, though, is in my history of Dayton, I have
01:21:57.600received an offer for, you could say a dowry, but it was going in my direction. So the family
01:22:04.180offered me money to marry their actual daughter. So that's extremely rare, but I got lucky on that
01:22:09.960one. I still passed. But net net. It was an interesting situation. Her family was from Sudan.
01:22:16.900So they offered me a massive amounts of funds to manage because majority of the sons in the family
01:22:22.200were not competent to manage the actual family's portfolio. And the father felt like
01:22:27.520if I was to marry his daughter, I would be a good successor. And then at the end of the day,
01:22:32.480I was like, hell no, she can still divorce me and rob me at the end of it. So now I'm good.
01:22:36.760and then i just backed out of the deal but yeah it's extremely rare for that to happen
01:22:41.520yeah glenn what were you going to say earlier
01:22:44.960i was going to say like you know this whole thing it's men appealing to women when really it really
01:22:54.680needs to be the other way around if you think about it like her virginity is nice it's great
01:22:59.540cool cute but how does she treat you what we already know what men could bring to the table
01:23:04.180we are the protectors providers you know we are the ones that they're going to be taxing on at
01:23:09.540the end of the day if they decide to leave we know that we are carrying the risk right so if we are
01:23:15.060carrying the risk of the investment then what are what are we investing in why are we appealing to
01:23:21.300the thing that we're trying to invest in when it should be them appealing to you the one that's
01:23:26.580going to invest in them right so it's like we have this whole thing ass backwards and that's
01:23:33.780why we're in this situation guys constantly trying to appeal to women trying to you know
01:23:38.260dance to be the little monkey to try like hey i'm a good catch but you see what the top 20
01:23:44.420of them are doing they're not even worried about women women are appealing to them that's the
01:23:48.260mindset that guys need to have instead of this other way around because that's the only way
01:23:52.820you're going to be able to flip it is reinstate the value system that's different like hey we
01:23:58.180hold the value you are going to be the addition
01:24:02.820yeah i agree i pearl i do want to add to that real quick because i am like the top
01:24:09.700five percent of america and one percent globally i tell you what guys they're not doing nothing
01:24:14.740fantastic for us neither they're just trying to take our money like i know you guys have dreams
01:24:21.140that they're like and i'm six six six everything six pack six feet my six figures make seven
01:24:25.780figures so it's like i still get raked over the coals it's worse though like they charge me a
01:24:31.060high price and so i think kevin said it the best you're not a high value man you're a high target
01:24:36.980so at the end of the day i'm just a target right so the coolness is just in my freedom
01:24:42.820but outside of that when i get into a deal they want the whole barn they want everything
01:24:47.780so it's not like hey man if i get this money and i become an ultra ninja i'm gonna get girls at my
01:24:54.860beck and call nah they're just gonna play you that's it and it's worse up here i'm curious
01:25:00.920how much money were you offered ah well the family estate has somewhere around like 50 million or
01:25:08.480something it wasn't too bad he did well for himself for an immigrant to america oh my gosh
01:25:15.360did you turn that down yeah i mean i got my own money and then i know what that comes with
01:25:21.660i'm gonna get divorced and she's gonna take half of it like heck no
01:25:24.600was she a complete goblin or something
01:25:28.500nah i mean if i was still on the come up i would have took the offer though
01:25:33.620but i wasn't so wait couldn't you put her on child support then or alimony
01:25:39.700it would depend on how that deal went down if they invested some of that money into the conjugal
01:25:46.940fund of that marriage then it would mean something if she split if it's just i'm an heiress for a
01:25:51.240future date of some of this money then it means nothing now exactly and that was more on the last
01:25:57.180one yeah can i can i add something just for the the high high value man i you know when i used to
01:26:04.660work at child support i've i've read so many divorce orders and divorce judgments that would
01:26:08.460across my desk. And even before a lot of this content was out there, I had realized that the
01:26:14.140more a guy was making, the bigger fish he was to fry. So when I heard like Kevin Samuels or
01:26:19.760coach Greg Adams use the word high value target immediately resonated with me because I'm looking
01:26:25.900at it and this is such a bad deal. And this is where, you know, a lot of the red pill centers
01:26:30.780around this concept of hypergamy. And a lot of times you'll see, they'll say, well, women are
01:26:35.960hypergamous it's just their nature but the truth of the matter is is that really both both sides
01:26:42.560of the equation are looking for the best deal they can get and the dowry system especially in
01:26:47.080a monogamous society is is what checks hypergamy on either side um there is a really great comment
01:26:53.000on one of the shorts that you posted of of us from our sit down pearl that described a situation
01:26:58.340like this but the question i guess i want to ask is you know when i think of a high status man or
01:27:04.180someone who's doing well how would you get that guy to be monogamous you know like i always think
01:27:10.040of andrew tate if i had to pitch the deal to andrew tate how would i do that do any guys have
01:27:16.660a suggestion i'll tell you mine after um i don't think men like that i think he would just find a
01:27:24.420way around it yeah pros tried to ask multiple people to sell sell marriage it's one of the
01:27:29.960things on her platform and no one can do it so i'm not going to even try maybe maybe there's
01:27:35.840some sort of like if i was going to go the dowry route um it would have to be some sort of maybe
01:27:42.140political influence that's probably what i would maybe let me add to that because i know where
01:27:48.000you're getting at yeah for me i would take well that would be the only way i always i often say
01:27:55.100I don't say I will never get married I would only get married to the the the owner of Hawaii he has
01:28:01.460a daughter I would marry her yeah like that would be the only way I would get married so would it
01:28:06.880have to be well well yeah well and that's where I'm getting at and there's interesting because
01:28:11.120because the situation you just described Sean I hope if I'm getting your name right is um is what
01:28:16.620you said was really interesting because after you became well off it became something you cared about
01:28:23.020less because now you have that and what we tell men nowadays that's at least put out there as
01:28:28.140common knowledge whether from trad cons or whoever is you have to make it you got to be a good
01:28:31.760provider you got to you got to get past all these things and make all this money and then a woman's
01:28:35.720going to want to pair up with you but if nobody helps him in his early days why would he feel
01:28:41.560that he needs to be monogamous to one woman the dowry system helped these two help the guy get
01:28:47.480started in his early 20s they said okay his family's a good family he's going to get a good
01:28:51.900inheritance he he looks like he's starting off on a good career path he has a good trade let's
01:28:56.660invest this money get his store open for him get a house set up for him as he grows into this higher
01:29:02.040status there's no such thing as as leaving because these people they you're invested you're mutually
01:29:07.420invested in this with someone like andrew tate i always think about it he'd probably still say no
01:29:11.860but if someone came to him and said uh you know this is my daughter and she's coming with a province
01:29:18.300in Romania and some shipping lanes and they have this much income per year, he's going to have to
01:29:23.020think about it at least and say, should I get rid of my webcam ladies or whatever? Or should I take
01:29:28.600this? What's going to be a better prospect for my children going forward? And he can make that
01:29:32.380calculation. But the point is, is it's a negotiation. It's a mutual contribution. And this
01:29:38.220is how monogamy became a thing in higher complex civilizations and especially the West and why it
01:29:46.060worked for so long so nowadays is when it comes to virginity if i'm a woman and my parents are
01:29:53.240leaving me nothing to help me with the marriage or no no bequest i'm out here in the market and
01:29:58.740i have to essentially play the love match game and rely on beauty um i don't know maybe it's
01:30:05.440the better idea to start the only fans and get a million dollars like that 18 year old girl that
01:30:09.720was on twitter recently and i bet i bet she would get more takers like to be honest yeah because
01:30:15.660Because the families are putting out the daughters as essentially poor women, and then they're expecting some high-value, you know, some high-status guy or some guy with potential to take on this deal.
01:30:27.600And then, you know, our family law system is essentially 50-50.
01:50:32.180okay we're gonna add dasher hello can you hear me i can hear you um so what are your thoughts
01:50:42.420on the topic have you been with a virgin woman um if you if you disagree with anything i said
01:50:48.660today feel free to bring it up uh what's been your experience okay so by the way thank you
01:50:56.260it's been a long time that i wanted to come on your show okay and so what's up
01:51:01.140it doesn't today so it's nice to talk to you um your sound is muffled and i have no idea why
01:51:09.140because a few months ago i wanted to come on the show but it didn't work out i don't know why
01:51:16.980i'm going to put you in the waiting room so if you want to fix it and then come back i'll try
01:51:20.500yeah it just sounds really muff like okay so i'm gonna do ranger um ragnar
01:51:32.660uh yes uh so i think i think you're accurate you need to get a little closer to your mic am i on
01:51:40.900speaker okay can you hear me now uh that's better go ahead okay yeah so i think what i want the
01:51:46.580point that i wanted to make was that i think you're accurate uh for maybe people who are a
01:51:53.060little more um like friends with benefits but i think for a guy who wants to build a family
01:51:58.980i think uh physiologically the idea that um you know a girl has been what's what's your term ran
01:52:06.100through uh i think uh if she's beautiful enough he'll look past that but it's never something
01:52:12.500that's attractive uh and i think the idea of him being the only one that's only going to ever add
01:52:19.060to the situation um i do have a question about your forum in general if you ever discuss um
01:52:26.980kind of the historical roots of the effects of feminism and where they come from because
01:52:33.140i i i think a lot of you are very topical so i understand but i think if you trace it back to
01:52:39.620you know the american revolution the french revolution and even before that it can be
01:52:43.780actually pretty productive i know that might not be what your goal is but uh i think that would
01:52:48.980add to the discussion and people's understanding yeah i appreciate the suggestion um but going
01:52:54.820back to the topic so we're talking about virgins over a certain age so that generally there's
01:53:02.340something wrong with them do you agree well it depends a lot of people a lot of girls in religious
01:53:07.220backgrounds, like remember the Duggars? Do you remember them? One of the oldest daughters who
01:53:12.540is the Duggar. I think she dated Tim Tebow or something. And some might say, well, maybe she
01:53:19.020was too picky. So there's that. I mean, she could just be too picky. I think honestly, though,
01:53:25.060I think there's going to have to become a breaking point either evolutionarily or the countries with
01:53:32.100the court systems like uh russia and iran and they're becoming much more powerful countries
01:53:37.360in part because of this i think that don't have a family court system that promotes feminism so much
01:53:42.920people miss a lot of times how you could take all the propaganda and all the culture you wanted
01:53:49.100if you think so jana duggar got married at 34 are you really believe she was a virgin really
01:53:56.460uh i whether or not she was a virgin up until her wedding day first of all i think it's it's
01:54:02.400possible because i think some women are um just that way i'm sorry i gotta kick you i just can't
01:54:11.180come on this night yeah man come on come on man talk to men this naive you know
01:54:17.68034 please god didn't we read an article didn't we on one of std fridays were like women
01:54:25.480mormon girls are getting stds in their armpits or something like that come on you mean tell me
01:54:30.260she hasn't blown a couple of dudes or taking it come on man are you serious you're a nice guy it's
01:54:36.960nothing personal but there's just a point where i just think there has to be a certain
01:54:42.180and i'm not saying you're dumb in other areas but like there has to be a certain level of
01:54:49.160intelligence for this conversation to be worth my time of understanding yeah yeah you may be smart
01:54:55.640in like your job or whatever but they're just if you believe a 34 year old virgin you just got
01:55:01.080bigger problems man like come on all right oh mac hey how's it going good how are you i'm fine okay
01:55:14.200all right so what's your thought what is your experience dating women that either are virgins
01:55:19.720or claim to be if you disagree with something i said feel free go ahead i don't disagree with it
01:55:26.440um i will talk about the experience of a you know of a family member of mine okay um and um he
01:55:33.240basically asked my advice because this was a woman she was definitely you know she was a church girl
01:55:39.640she was part of the holiness movement and she's about 33 or 33 or 34 years old and she very much
01:55:50.120wanted to be his wife but she definitely was saying no but she was a virgin now
01:55:56.540definitely liked her very sweet girl but she was like a four or five you know she was okay and
01:56:05.520wait but the thing was at the end of the day because of where she was in her particular
01:56:14.120beliefs even though he was in the church as well she was like there's nothing at all that's going
01:56:19.760to basically happen until you know we get married and then um to kind of shorten the story
01:56:27.780the woman that wind up beating her out already had a kid and was willing to basically give it up
01:56:36.180and i kind of felt bad for him but the fact is you know you know when you're 34 35 years old
01:56:45.960and you're single you're still a virgin yes you're going to be looked at as though something
01:56:51.880is wrong something is wrong yes a very nice um i'm like woman but you know it definitely put her
01:57:00.240into a position of you're now past 30 you're not exactly in total the best weight you're a little
01:57:08.080bit overweight you know and you're saying nothing is going to happen until you get married and
01:57:15.840and that didn't work out for her dang so that's a great story i know i've seen that happen before
01:57:23.920because yeah it's too much of a risk they don't even know if you're gonna sleep with them after
01:57:29.140you're married yeah yeah and it was you know and it was just kind of one of those things of
01:57:33.820of um you know she was willing to go only so far because even when me and him would basically talk
01:57:41.500and then i said well you understand her beliefs either you go all in or not and um now it was
01:57:51.340kind of funny when the ex-girlfriend basically found out about them you know um dating now mind
01:57:58.440you know she was cuter you know light-skinned it and body was you know similar but she was
01:58:06.260definitely more pretty but she had a complete nasty a nasty attitude and i think the only
01:58:11.420reason why she came back into his life and to basically have sex with him was because he was
01:58:16.720not going to let her the virgin win as crazy as that is wow oh yeah yeah yeah it was and then
01:58:27.260later when they you know and then of course they wound up basically getting married and she treated
01:58:31.520him like crap of course there it is yeah she you know hey hey look she was not gonna get beat out
01:58:39.200by a 34 35 year old virgin she was not gonna get beat out and she married him and she treated him
01:58:45.280like crap she treated him like crap sounds about right yeah yeah great great story thanks for
01:58:54.320calling in um you have any other thoughts on the topic you want to go say before you go well i mean
01:59:00.240look here's the thing women need to be moving in a you know in a proactive stance of saying hey look
01:59:08.800i you know i want to be married if you start getting past 30 32 33 and you're still a virgin
01:59:16.640yes and particularly like in a black community you will look that side-eyed big time it's like
01:59:21.600what the heck is wrong with her now i have a question for you real fast at what point
01:59:29.360Because Pearl said that a lot of women who are virgins, that's their primary selling point.
01:59:37.640Because I think a lot of those women, they get so obsessed with that selling point that they don't know what else to offer a man after, you know, besides that.
01:59:47.440So it kind of stunts their development.
01:59:49.420They should be focusing on what they can offer to a man, but they get so obsessed with their virginity that they don't even know what to offer a man once that's gone.
01:59:57.000I mean, I mean, look, if you're sitting there saying I'm a virgin until marriage, then you need to be focusing on those things that make you a wife that basically makes your wife.
02:00:08.860Because to me, the ones I've seen and it's only been two, about two or three ever like in my life I've ever seen.
02:00:14.520They've always done. Well, it's the virginity, you know, as I know, you're you know, you need to be moving in such a way that you are a wife.
02:00:23.040You're going to basically be looking to be a wife to this man.
02:00:26.460You're going to be a benefit to this man.
02:00:28.940You're going to be willing to have his children,