Pearl - Do Women That Are Virgins Over 25 Have Something Wrong with Them？？ (Call-In Show) ｜ Pearl Daily

00:00:00.000 Four, three, two, one.

00:00:04.280 So there's this clip going viral online

00:00:06.660 of a dozen women being asked the following question.

00:00:09.800 Do we need men? 0.81

00:00:12.400 Most answered very quickly, no. 1.00

00:00:15.100 Because men are useless. 0.99

00:00:18.400 This headline from The Hill, it caught my eye. 1.00

00:00:21.000 Most young men are single, most young women are not.

00:00:24.080 Young men have fallen faster than any demographic

00:00:27.120 in America over the last 40 years.

00:00:28.880 It's a different world now.

00:00:29.800 we don't need men the way that they used to. Nobody needs men! The future is female. 1.00

00:00:36.120 Men and women are drifting further apart and society is crumbling because of it. 0.99

00:00:42.920 A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage. You've kind of got the trad

00:00:47.000 con versus red pill thing. This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way. 0.63

00:00:52.200 You need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men. Marriage is a 0.99

00:00:57.080 bond and it's a sacred bond it's a machine designed to extract resources from you now many

00:01:02.280 of the red-pilled have taken the position that is bad for men to get married 0.97

00:01:06.840 hannah pearl davis or just pearly things one of the most controversial faces in all of the internet 0.98

00:01:14.040 she goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men because if me and you were in a

00:01:18.040 business contract you would never sign a contract where i am paid to leave gee what could go wrong

00:01:23.160 there. 74% or something of divorces are initiated by women. Men have

00:01:28.200 everything to lose, primarily their own children. Men get killed by the courts

00:01:32.580 and by divorce laws. I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of

00:01:36.720 equity, not courts of law. Because in family court you don't need evidence to

00:01:40.500 accuse someone of abuse. You need no evidence. When you guys say get married

00:01:44.100 young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for and you're

00:01:46.860 not gonna be there when their entire life falls apart. I interviewed them on

00:01:50.700 the other side i didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old how much did you spend trying to get

00:01:56.220 him back on legal fees alone was about 200 000 before you know it you're homeless you're literally

00:02:01.100 just thrown out into the street we absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women wives are taught 1.00

00:02:05.740 to leave their husbands and then daughters grow up without their fathers family is a foundation

00:02:10.220 of society every problem in society comes from single mother homes a lot of women will just chase 1.00

00:02:15.340 this negative rabbit hole of happiness endless happiness feminism's biggest failures is it lies 1.00

00:02:19.980 to win we tell women to date as many guys as possible we tell them to put off family into 1.00

00:02:23.420 marriage you are allowed to leave your perfect husband you are allowed to end a relationship 0.89

00:02:29.420 with a really great boyfriend oh freeze your eggs have an abortion what you're evil i don't think 0.85

00:02:34.780 there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail right like if you

00:02:39.020 have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic naturally the outcome is going

00:02:43.580 to be that it's going to fail anyway it's self-sabotage that's the thing like women are so 1.00

00:02:47.500 willing to leave marriages because they're not happy this is not about happiness the most

00:02:52.140 important thing is the children and the problem is we have a modern society where it's me me me

00:02:57.500 my feelings leave when i feel like it instead of doing what's best for the kids

00:03:01.660 this myth that we live in an age of male privilege where's my male privilege they think well men have

00:03:07.300 all the rights they have all the power privilege patriarchal system that we have why doesn't our 1.00

00:03:12.200 society care about men's rights i have no friends no wife and no social life men are alone in this

00:03:18.460 situation men are homeless men are thinking about eating guns i've seen so many men on on the brink

00:03:24.060 of suicide and they didn't do anything wrong how are you equal if the men are the ones that have

00:03:29.620 to fight and die to defend the country the men are the ones that build and maintain all the 0.69

00:03:34.740 infrastructure women are helplessly dependent upon men the so-called deaths of despair from 1.00

00:03:40.420 suicide overdose to alcohol three times higher among men than among women culture is telling

00:03:46.300 men you are no good you got to get your act together i think men have failed themselves

00:03:50.120 what kind of a man are you what kind of a woman are you going to attract if men are in trouble 0.99

00:03:55.000 so are women everybody knows this is a huge problem but nobody wants to admit it every 1.00

00:04:00.440 single woman at the table said they wanted a man 500k 500k 300k 200k am i crazy everything is

00:04:06.180 really set up against you to fail as a man. If men make less than women, women don't want to marry 0.99

00:04:11.020 them. So you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men? Women. I don't want to be 1.00

00:04:17.740 an independent woman anymore. I don't want to be a strong independent woman. I'm over it. When is 1.00

00:04:22.840 it going to be my turn? Where are we meeting the men that don't stop? I can't keep having these

00:04:26.840 same conversations. The only simp here is you, Pearl. You simp for men. No, I think you simp for 0.67

00:04:31.280 women. She's a provocateur. She says stupid stuff, but Pearl is right about this. It's already 1.00

00:04:35.440 happening it's just not out in the open yet now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairy

00:04:39.680 tale ending because men don't want a wife and women can't find a husband the future if everybody 0.83

00:04:45.040 follows your path is there is no future we go into population decline and our economy goes into

00:04:50.320 decline civilization will crumble the american story does not end well this is an existential

00:04:56.960 crisis, failing young men. What is up, everybody? How are you? Welcome to another episode of Pearl

00:05:13.900 Daily here at the Audacity Network. Thank you guys so much for tuning in. So the first thing

00:05:19.840 we're going to do today is we are going to thank the awesome, talented, amazing men that donated

00:05:28.200 to our divorce documentary fundraiser. So as you guys know, my mission when I came into this space

00:05:33.940 was I just wanted to have a divorce documentary. That's all I wanted to do. And unfortunately,

00:05:40.380 they demonetized me for a year and a half. They completely slandered my name. They put me on a

00:05:45.300 government watch list um and it made it pretty difficult to finish the divorce documentary so

00:05:51.360 now we're asking for donations um so if you guys can the link is in the description terry thank

00:05:57.540 you for the 25 donation sunit um thank you for the donation anonymous 50 bucks and soniel 25 if

00:06:05.240 you guys donate during the show i will read it at the end also if you want to learn how to be a

00:06:09.740 YouTuber, go to pearlinvite.com and apply, and you can be a part of our weekly classes that we do.

00:06:16.560 We're not going to do the classes today because I just have a lot to say on this topic, so I think

00:06:21.300 we're going to do it probably not tomorrow. Tomorrow we're doing a panel show. Thursday.

00:06:27.040 Thursday we're going to do our How to Be a YouTuber class where every week I go through

00:06:30.780 my analytics and you guys can learn too. So thank you for sitting with me through this sales pitch.

00:06:36.680 All right. So today we're talking about virgin women. So last show, I did a reaction to a video

00:06:45.140 and I said, men say they want virgin women until they see the virgin women available.

00:06:51.980 I said, men, they constantly gaslight the same way women gaslight us 1.00

00:06:57.020 about what we find attractive. Sometimes men do the exact same thing to us.

00:07:03.260 now remember in girl world we only care about what attractive men think now i'm not saying

00:07:12.960 this is right i'm not saying this is a good thing but we have a new series on this channel

00:07:19.100 and it's called it is what it is so this is a segment on pearl daily where

00:07:24.180 i talk about the way the world is not the way i want it to be not the way i wish it was

00:07:28.620 You know, I had a friend of mine say that should is the worst word in the human language because it's just a wish list.

00:07:41.360 And I realized that I myself as a YouTuber, I use this term just a lot.

00:07:47.560 And I actually almost got embarrassed thinking about it after I came to this realization.

00:07:54.900 You know, when you're a YouTuber and you talk for a living, you're forced to deal with uncomfortable truths about yourself because if you don't notice them, the world notices them for you.

00:08:06.540 So one of them that I learned was that when I was younger, I was very idealistic and unrealistic.

00:08:13.380 And so I would say things like, you know, I can't say that anymore.

00:08:20.580 Or women should be in the kitchen. 1.00

00:08:22.700 Women should make a sandwich. 1.00

00:08:23.840 and these things are funny right they're hilarious i'm always trying to put in an entertaining show

00:08:27.840 for you guys but it's not realistic right it's not this isn't um this isn't something that

00:08:36.000 is a realistic point of view and i think that's where a lot of liberals are born

00:08:40.880 that's where a lot of liberals they look at us conservatives and they're saying

00:08:44.880 what world do you guys live in you guys are insane are you not seeing what's going on

00:08:49.520 and i'm not saying the liberals are right either the liberal men i mean we see the way that they

00:08:55.620 sent to no end they really do they're they're like the they're like the incredibles you know

00:09:01.740 that show but just in simping but in a way conservatives sent parter now i'm going to talk

00:09:10.000 about this topic and you guys are going to be able to call in but there was one comment that

00:09:15.320 actually sparked this whole show and i i can't i forgot to put the name of the person who said it

00:09:21.320 uh but maybe doug mpa you can find the comment and put in the chat but i copied and pasted their

00:09:26.140 comment um and i caught i i did this because i really thought to myself i understand why he

00:09:40.680 thinks this. I really do. It probably does seem contradictory. So, my take is that female

00:09:50.560 virgins have something wrong with them more times than they don't. Now, I'd like to differentiate.

00:10:01.840 Female virgins below a certain age, you could argue, maybe they don't. 1.00

00:10:10.680 but i don't think virginity is this bonding construct the way that it used to be

00:10:18.680 i think at one point maybe so but the virgins of today are just not the virgins of yesterday

00:10:26.120 and the reason i came to this conclusion was real life experience you know you see the stats about

00:10:33.000 body count right and you think to yourself well that's obviously the women with the higher body 1.00

00:10:39.800 counts are the horrors and that's true there is truth to that i'm not saying it's not but i like

00:10:46.440 to have more nuanced conversations on this channel so during the last show i reacted to a clip of a

00:10:54.360 woman named riley who went on a dating show and she was a socially awkward woman um not the most 1.00

00:11:01.000 attractive maybe like a five or a four she went on this dating show and she pitched herself to 20 0.99

00:11:06.680 guys and she was rejected. And listening to her talk, I don't think I would be shocked if she

00:11:12.820 was a virgin. I really wouldn't. I don't know if she is or she isn't, but she fit one of the

00:11:17.880 archetypes of virgins I've seen on the market. So the comment, so during, during this show,

00:11:25.220 I titled it, men say they want virgins until it comes down to picking them. So the comment said,

00:11:33.520 pearl went from women should be virgin and young to no you don't want a virgin seriously pearl 0.99

00:11:38.880 isn't consistent at all she's insecure about her situation about not being a virgin and aging and

00:11:44.400 couldn't live up to the standards she originally argued about and now is trying to convince people

00:11:48.880 that no you don't want a virgin subconsciously she comes across as jealous that everyone gets 1.00

00:11:53.840 married first regardless of if they're a virgin or not and i you know i do read the comments so

00:12:00.160 So I looked at this comment and I said, I can understand why he thinks that, but I want

00:12:05.740 to pitch to you guys, my ideas.

00:12:08.580 I want you to have an open mind.

00:12:11.020 And at the end, you could tell me if you agree or disagree, we could do a call in show.

00:12:16.720 Now I'm not saying I am the end all be all, but all I am repeating back is what I have

00:12:22.300 seen on the market.

00:12:24.600 So the first definition I think is really important is what is a virgin woman?

00:12:30.160 Now, you would think, you really would think that this would be something that we all just agree on, right?

00:12:37.320 You would think that we would know, like, a virgin's a girl that never had sex, right? 0.99

00:12:42.860 That's what you would think.

00:12:47.760 That's what, that's what, that's what you would think.

00:12:51.060 All right, now, let me share the screen. 0.72

00:12:53.900 And so the definition of a virgin is a person who has never had sexual intercourse.

00:13:03.820 That's the one.

00:13:05.140 Number two is an unmarried woman devoted to religion. 0.87

00:13:08.280 So women are sneaking in. 1.00

00:13:12.400 They're sneaking in another definition.

00:13:15.400 they're sneaking in another definition into

00:13:21.680 into Webster can you imagine that's how women that's how women manipulate is we have a tendency 1.00

00:13:29.860 to change the definition of words three had absolutely chased young woman or four Virgin

00:13:36.180 Mary so I prefer definition three so for the purpose of this conversation I would say a virgin

00:13:42.580 woman is a woman that has never done anything that could give her an STD. BJs, that can give 1.00

00:13:51.980 you an STD. Getting finger blasted, hand jubs, that can give you an STD. Soaking, I'm pretty 0.85

00:14:00.920 sure that can give you an STD. So all of the workarounds here at Pearl Daily, we do not

00:14:06.920 count those hoes. Just because you found a way to get off without hoeing doesn't mean you're 1.00

00:14:14.460 better than the other hoes. I put you in the same category. I really do. So, um, all right. 1.00

00:14:26.060 Now, the next question I had is, do women want to be virgins on their wedding day? 1.00

00:14:31.900 so conservative men have a tendency to have this idea that women want to wait

00:14:36.580 till they're married and they're just falling victim to these evil men who

00:14:40.660 just take their virginity but if we look at what women are choosing it does not 1.00

00:14:48.400 look like women have any intention or want to do this so let me share my

00:14:54.100 screen

00:14:56.560 Also, make sure you guys like the video. All right. Hit that like button. Subscribe to the

00:15:12.120 channel. I, I hit, you know, okay. Now they're saying this is a bad take because sharing a drink

00:15:20.340 can give you an STD. All right, guys, within reason, right? I think if you could get off,

00:15:26.500 if you can orgasm from a man, if you can, if that can happen, if he's causing it, look at, 0.94

00:15:33.280 I just don't, I just don't, I don't think you're that innocent. Okay. I don't, I don't. And I am 0.78

00:15:41.180 tired of being gaslit about this. Obviously, obviously shit. Like what was the point of that 1.00

00:15:47.640 comment. That was just a stupid comment. I hate it when people know what you're saying, but they 1.00

00:15:53.260 force you, they force you to give a more detailed explanation. That's annoying. That's, I just want

00:16:02.260 you to know in the chat, whoever put that, you're annoying. That's an annoying thing to do.

00:16:08.180 All right. So putting things in order, relationship sequencing, the preferences of American woman. 1.00

00:16:14.160 In America today, 70% of people cohabitate before marriage and 90% of people have sex before they

00:16:20.880 marry. Moreover, 40% of kids are born to unmarried mothers. It's easy to assume these trends are 0.83

00:16:26.660 driven entirely by shifts in values and attitudes like the sexual revolution or the deinstitutionalization

00:16:34.140 of marriage. But there's an alternative thesis as well. Maybe the family breakdown has grown

00:16:40.920 because people don't desire conventional sequencing of marriage and childbearing,

00:16:45.460 but because there are obstacles to this outcome. So remember,

00:16:49.940 they always want to take the blame away from women. Okay. They, they always want to do this.

00:16:58.400 They always want to say it's not because women want to do it. They're brainwashed. 0.92

00:17:03.200 They're like, come on guys. The prevalence of damaging penalties that discourage marriage for

00:17:09.540 working-class people could be prevented from many achieving family lives they want. And indeed,

00:17:15.700 family dissolution, marriage penalties are a major concern of working-class parents.

00:17:21.580 All right, number one.

00:17:27.180 Wait, hold on.

00:17:31.000 All right, to explore the question of why the sequencing, can I assume it on this?

00:17:36.520 To explore the question of why the sequencing of family events has changed, I fielded a survey about 3,000 women age 18 to 44, and the survey was another wave of long-running surveys called the Demographic Intelligence of Family Survey, which polls American women about their family attitudes, fertility preferences, and lifestyle twice a year to provide market research for companies that make products for children and moms, hence why it only surveyed women.

00:18:04.400 I assessed sequencing in a straightforward way. I asked women to arrange six relationship stages

00:18:10.500 based on what they thought would be the best order for them personally. The stages were getting

00:18:15.400 married, moving in together, having a child, buying a house, meeting each other's families,

00:18:19.580 and having sex. By forcing respondents to put these stages in order, I directly measured

00:18:24.460 women's views of what they would personally prefer for their own relationships. In other words, 0.86

00:18:29.120 I measured the extent to which high rates of cohabitation and premarital sex reflect explicit

00:18:36.580 value differences. All right. So women put the order women want relationships to happen. They 1.00

00:18:43.980 want to meet the family. They want to have sex, move in together, then get married and buy a house 0.74

00:18:49.100 and have a child. Contrary to popular Hollywood driven narratives that frame meeting the family

00:18:58.260 has a huge relationship step that people want to postpone. Women overwhelmingly selected meeting 1.00

00:19:03.060 each other's families as their first preferred step out of the sixth. Now, to me, that's just

00:19:08.400 a signal status. Like women love signaling status to the family. On average, meeting the family was 0.99

00:19:15.000 selected was the second listed item. While this may seem counterintuitive, it's very straightforward.

00:19:21.220 Many women say they prefer to be in the relationship with someone who already knows 1.00

00:19:25.100 their life and background not a stranger other ways uh other now remember women are gaslighting 1.00

00:19:31.140 here because if that were true then we would be meeting in our hometowns and not on hinge okay

00:19:36.520 otherwise women may explicitly desire familiar approval for partners furthermore it's best 0.99

00:19:42.820 to it's important to remember the question asked women about what would be best not typical if

00:19:48.340 women knew up front that their potential partner was their best partner they might move in faster 1.00

00:19:53.600 on meeting families. Okay. My point is it, um, 78% of women in this survey picked an onboarding

00:20:03.860 that prelaced home ownership before children. Um, 40 to 50, uh, 50% of newborns are born to renters.

00:20:12.080 Uh, okay. Uh, the survey also asked women if housing costs has, okay. I don't, I don't really

00:20:19.580 care i really wanted to just put um women want to marry before kids but they definitely want the 1.00

00:20:26.800 sex before marriage the majority of women sex at the first relationship stage and if we look at

00:20:34.740 what women are picking right women aren't really picking to wait until they're married 1.00

00:20:40.460 we're really not you know i mean it's just not something that we personally are choosing

00:20:48.360 Okay, let me check the chat really quick.

00:20:52.420 So I really want to just kill this idea that women want to wait until we're married. 1.00

00:20:56.740 If we wanted to, we would.

00:20:58.040 You know, we would be rushing to get with all the guys that are offering commitment.

00:21:02.460 There's a ton of them.

00:21:05.920 But we're not.

00:21:07.400 Okay, so the next question I have.

00:21:10.640 How many virgin brides are there and what are your chances of finding one? 0.99

00:21:14.600 All right. So less than 5% of women are virgins. And that's what Grok told me. So let's assume

00:21:24.740 because women are liars, not all, not all, not all, that 2.5%, let's say half are lying. 0.99

00:21:32.640 So out of a hundred women, you are going to meet 2.5% that are virgins and actually. 0.99

00:21:38.680 now what percent have given a hand job or a blow you know we'll include that with the line even

00:21:47.420 though i guarantee half of them will have been finger blasted i'm just gonna i'm gonna give it 0.98

00:21:52.320 what percent are ugly what percent are fat let's divide that in two 0.92

00:21:57.720 i'm gonna just subtract half a percent let's say we're at even though it's really higher i'm just 0.99

00:22:04.500 for shits and giggles gonna say two percent what percent are bitches let's 1.5 percent let's say 1.00

00:22:11.940 now we get we're dealing with left what percent um 1.00

00:22:16.960 what percent are using their virginity to build their brand or have a lot of debt let's just

00:22:25.900 now let's say it's one out of a hundred women 1.00

00:22:28.320 now you say you guys keep saying pearl you're contradicting yourself now

00:22:37.740 you said women should be virgins and that's where i really wanted to talk about how the marriage

00:22:46.060 contract has changed over time okay men and women have compete conflicting sexual strategies

00:22:54.160 Women want men to not know how valuable they are. 1.00

00:22:57.180 So they give up their leverage the rest of their lives and be loyal to them and give them.

00:23:04.420 Like the goal of women is to tame the alpha, right? 1.00

00:23:07.460 Let's say. 0.96

00:23:09.280 And the goal of men is to maybe have a wife but bang hot women forever. 0.99

00:23:14.840 And before in the old days, it was a compromise, right?

00:23:18.820 They would meet in their hometown.

00:23:20.640 Maybe the families would get together.

00:23:22.300 a lot of time the woman would come with a dowry right so they would actually be like hey son 0.87

00:23:29.220 this girl my daughter's a hassle she's really annoying here's some money to deal with her 1.00

00:23:34.180 annoyingness forever here you go and

00:23:39.080 so before the women would say you know what I really could do better than you I really could

00:23:50.760 I'm pretty hot, but you're good enough and I'm going to settle and we're going to make a deal

00:23:56.860 here. This is going to be a compromise for both of us. And the man would say, look, I could bang

00:24:03.080 some hot chicks. I could. I could bang Stacey and Teresa over there, but you know what? 1.00

00:24:11.160 I'm going to compromise here and we're going to get together. And he's like, you know what?

00:24:16.480 you didn't have sex with anybody else, or if you did lie, I'm sure women have always lied. 1.00

00:24:21.100 If you had a hoe phase, you ended it at like 20. So let's, let's compromise here. You can give me 1.00

00:24:30.200 like 10 kids. A lot of times they'd work on the farm, you know, but now what happens is the women 1.00

00:24:37.720 have completely foregoed, foregone their side of the mating strategy.

00:24:46.480 the women have foregone they have said you know what we're not going to bring youth we're not 0.93

00:24:53.880 going to give bring purity to the table but I still demand a traditional marriage 1.00

00:24:59.400 I still demand to stay home I still demand to be a stay-at-home mother to like one kid

00:25:08.100 it's like one kid you can't get a part-time job you know what I mean

00:25:11.020 So I think in my old content, I maybe, I wish I differentiated more.

00:25:22.980 When I said should, my, what I was trying to say is in the old days when it was a fair deal for men, 0.93

00:25:32.860 women used to bring purity and youth. That's the original marriage contract. 1.00

00:25:37.600 But now women are not bringing purity. 1.00

00:25:41.020 And not only, at least women used to be able to lie about purity. 1.00

00:25:45.060 Now there's like a digital footprint on the internet.

00:25:47.440 I mean, Sophia Reign is saying she's a virgin. 0.85

00:25:50.240 I could even add that.

00:25:51.260 What percent of these virgins have OnlyFans, right? 1.00

00:25:54.760 All right.

00:25:57.860 So this is not meant to discourage women that wish to do that.

00:26:05.800 And the comment, the comment really grinded my gears a little bit because I was like,

00:26:11.020 It said, Pearl, you're jealous.

00:26:15.720 And I think I could see that, right?

00:26:20.120 But virgins aren't really the ones that are stealing the men. 1.00

00:26:23.740 I got to be honest here.

00:26:25.000 They're not.

00:26:25.960 Most virgin women don't have crazy outcomes. 1.00

00:26:29.240 Like usually they're with kind of dorky guys that most women don't want to be with. 0.98

00:26:34.300 Now, I'm kind of a dork too. 0.99

00:26:36.100 This is not to hate on the dorks, right? 0.96

00:26:38.340 uh but it's kind of to say it is what it is that's not who women in mass are picking right 1.00

00:26:44.160 it's more the chads that women are going for um so what we used to have was marriage 1.00

00:26:57.200 the way it was was originally supposed to be an equal exchange

00:27:01.640 somewhat because women are not bringing purity and youth to the table. Women, we have to offer 0.99

00:27:10.220 six month free trials. Now, because women don't, you know, the purity and the youth isn't brought 1.00

00:27:17.140 to the table. The women are like, look, I guess I'm going to have to be a nice person and offer 1.00

00:27:22.000 a six month free trial and hope he stays. That's 2025, baby. Enjoy the decline.

00:27:31.640 Sex used to be the primary way a woman reciprocated effort in dating and courting with a man. 1.00

00:27:39.240 And so what we have now is the mystery method says, you know, men used to date for three months and then commit to women forever.

00:27:50.760 And to be honest, fellas, I don't think you should envy the men of the past.

00:27:55.100 I mean, this was kind of a terrible deal in a way for you guys.

00:27:58.500 I actually think you guys in a way have it better. 0.99

00:28:01.640 because before you would, you could be saddled with a bitch and you had to stay with her. 1.00

00:28:08.000 Um, now you can try a six month free trial, see how she is. She'll obviously switch up after 1.00

00:28:15.680 marriage, but you know, maybe if you have a pretty good vetting system, you can see if she's not 0.60

00:28:21.020 right. All right. So the mystery method says you need to spend eight hours with a girl. And I'm

00:28:27.020 hearing reports from the field that it's taking less than that, like three hours to smash.

00:28:31.640 So what used to be full-on courting, dedicating for life in exchange for the poonanny, now you can get in three hours. 0.99

00:28:41.260 Do you know what I mean?

00:28:42.580 It's like this is the times.

00:28:46.320 There is no guarantee if she says she was a virgin that that's even true.

00:28:51.180 Saving your virginity until your wedding night still runs the risk of the woman divorcing you five to seven years later. 0.95

00:28:58.060 And you get to miss out on the best sex.

00:29:01.640 The pre-marriage, ask any married guy, was the sex better before marriage or after marriage?

00:29:10.240 And the trad cons, they convince the men, they're like, miss out on the best sex ever.

00:29:17.480 And taking your kids and half of what you have.

00:29:21.760 So what does a woman saving herself for marriage or even a guy taking a woman's virginity mean anymore?

00:29:28.440 It really doesn't mean anything.

00:29:29.600 now this isn't what i want to be true right this isn't what i wish to be true but i've seen too

00:29:37.880 many virgin wives take their men to the divorce cleaners or um i've seen too many of the women i 1.00

00:29:44.840 knew that lost their virginities i mean and i'm gonna divide into how women tend to lose their 0.99

00:29:52.020 virginities and the typical, um, the typical scenarios that I would see. Um, but it doesn't

00:30:01.700 mean as much now. So I do think women should be virgins in the original marriage contract, 1.00

00:30:08.260 but unfortunately we don't have that anymore. And the men are sitting on the menu, right?

00:30:13.480 And they're saying, okay, they're like ordering. Imagine you're at a restaurant. You're like, I want,

00:30:18.460 Okay, can I have an in-shape woman? 1.00

00:30:20.860 And they're like, no.

00:30:23.480 Can I have a woman without debt? 0.99

00:30:25.060 And they're like, yeah, but it's going to cost you this much.

00:30:28.420 And they're like, whoa, that's expensive.

00:30:30.060 I don't know if I can afford that.

00:30:31.380 And they're like, what virgins? 0.87

00:30:32.620 Just can I see the virgins you have on the menu? 1.00

00:30:35.340 And they come up and they're like, here's a virgin woman that's built her brand off of being a virgin. 1.00

00:30:40.000 So she touts about it online and at church and uses it for clout.

00:30:44.180 And it's going to be a big deal when you guys get together.

00:30:46.060 and everyone's going to know the status of her virginity and the guy's like oh i don't know about

00:30:50.300 that and then the next one is like here's a virgin but she's fat and then he talks to her he's like

00:30:56.540 could you get on like a workout plan maybe and they're like no and then like okay and then you

00:31:02.220 get the next virgin and it's a hot 18 year old and then you know the guy's like oh i'll take that one 0.99

00:31:07.580 and maybe it's not too much like she does lose her virginity to him and this was a common scenario

00:31:12.220 I saw maybe they'll date for a year but you know then the streets start calling and she gets 0.63

00:31:17.200 invited to raves hang out with celebrities and guess who's getting left in the dust you are

00:31:22.320 fellas so you do get that virginity for a little bit and that's that was a common scenario that's 1.00

00:31:27.980 what I see with the seven pluses of virgin women like when I was younger they would um they would 1.00

00:31:35.320 lose their virginity to a guy they would date for a few years and they could have the marriage 1.00

00:31:39.980 outcome with him but then they would get too much opportunity in college they'd say see ya

00:31:45.060 you know it is what it is um and this is I think people get agitated with me because sometimes I

00:31:53.420 switch back and forth between what should be and what is and I've really tried to to evolve my

00:32:00.060 content to talk about what is and not what should be because I realized talking about what should be

00:32:06.500 is a waste of time. Like, women shouldn't vote, but who cares? We're always gonna. Like, what? 1.00

00:32:11.960 That's gonna go away in my lifetime? Yeah, okay. I'm just kidding, YouTube. That was an example.

00:32:18.400 That was an example. I don't mean it. I don't mean it. Keep my monetization, please. Please,

00:32:26.080 god you know it's like um okay um and the virgin women then the men order again and they get a

00:32:38.820 virgin woman but she's 28 and she's been finger blasted like 20 times and they're like let me get 0.98

00:32:45.620 this straight i have to wait for marriage for someone who got finger blasted by 20 guys or she 1.00

00:32:51.580 blue like two men is this even a virgin and the waiter's like no no no we're selling virginity 0.95

00:32:58.460 no no no no no that's a vert that counts change the dictionary

00:33:03.580 change the dictionary definition change it right now we need to sell this for 10.99 you know

00:33:11.500 and the men are like that's not really right

00:33:15.820 and then they'll order again right and i'm just listing the virgins i've seen over the years okay 1.00

00:33:21.580 Um, then you get the virgin wife, um, but she's a bitch, right? 1.00

00:33:26.860 She's naggy. 1.00

00:33:27.840 She's, she's, you know, she's kind of useless, kind of idiotic, right? 1.00

00:33:33.480 And I'm not, and then occasionally, occasionally you do get a very nice, sweet, feminine virgin 0.99

00:33:40.020 woman for now, for now, because that's until she gets into the wrong friend group. 1.00

00:33:48.860 She starts watching the wrong social media.

00:33:50.920 she gets invited to the wrong party cooked cooked and what i what i get irritated with is

00:33:57.720 i get the men that married virgins i can't verify it um so they don't even know for sure but they're

00:34:05.020 over a certain age you know the virgin women of yesterday they are not the virgin women that today

00:34:10.540 i'm sorry they're not they are not they are not

00:34:14.780 um so yeah should women be virgins yeah but they're not and you have zero control over it 1.00

00:34:27.740 so it is what it is it is what it is that's what's on the menu what's on the menu is whores 1.00

00:34:33.800 and what keeps happening is we keep trying that men keep trying to make whores men keep trying 0.99

00:34:41.380 to make, they, they keep attempting to make whores, which is women's like natural state 1.00

00:34:49.120 into the men cannot compute. They cannot compute with the fact that all women have the proclivity 1.00

00:34:58.600 and to some extent want to be whores. Now, a woman may not do it because it's not in her best 1.00

00:35:06.260 interests, right? A woman might not do it because her reputation she wants to keep intact. That's 1.00

00:35:13.140 a fair reason. She knows that if she's too much of a whore, she won't get married. But that's all 1.00

00:35:19.180 off the table. Women have OnlyFans and are getting married. Women are corn stars and they're getting 1.00

00:35:24.360 married. Women can be 50 and get married. I mean, guys, that's gone. That is gone. So in the past, 0.99

00:35:39.800 women had incentives to keep them virgins, but it wasn't like women didn't want to be. I mean,

00:35:45.740 guys, women fought a hundred years of nagging. They nagged men for a hundred years to be hoarse. 0.89

00:35:54.720 They could have nagged men. They could have nagged men for anything. It probably would have happened.

00:35:58.640 They could have said, men, we want world peace. We want world peace. Please give us world peace.

00:36:04.700 Please. I'm begging you. I just, I just want, I just want the world to be peaceful. No wars. And

00:36:10.420 I bet it would have happened. But women said, men, I want to be able to have sex unprotected. 1.00

00:36:16.340 I want him to finish in me and I want to not get pregnant. Please, we want this. Please, 1.00

00:36:22.680 oh, please, oh, please. And the men were like, oh, fine. Here's your birth control.

00:36:28.000 And then the women said, I can't be with this ugly guy. I can't. I need a guy who makes me 1.00

00:36:33.320 tingle. I can't, I can't settle. I could be fat and in debt, but I cannot settle. And the man said,

00:36:42.620 fine, you can divorce your husbands. Just shut up. Just shut up. Please shut up. 1.00

00:36:54.400 And then the women, that wasn't enough. The women said, please, can we abort our kids? I don't want 1.00

00:36:59.700 have kids with this guy that's ugly i just don't i don't want to do it please oh please oh please 1.00

00:37:04.340 let me have an abortion please and the men said aren't really really you guys want to kill your 0.99

00:37:10.660 you want to you want to abort your children and the women and the women said yes yes please please 1.00

00:37:18.980 oh please oh please i'm begging you and the men said oh fine three months we'll give you guys

00:37:24.980 three months to abort your kids. We'll give you three months. And the women said, that is not 0.99

00:37:35.720 enough. That is not enough. I want more time. And the men said, really? You can't figure out if

00:37:43.320 you're pregnant in three months? And the men are like, six, is that enough? And the women said, no. 0.87

00:37:47.100 i want to wait till that kid is damn near born 0.91

00:37:51.620 and then we're like oh my gosh you guys are crazy fine fine fine 0.99

00:37:58.580 so you know it's easy to say shit but all women have this inclination to some extent 1.00

00:38:17.100 All women want to be with the guy she can be a whore for. 1.00

00:38:22.220 But unfortunately, conservative men, they shoot themselves in the foot. 1.00

00:38:26.060 That's why I say, in a way, the liberal men are less cucked than conservative men.

00:38:31.520 Because the conservative men, like, and I always bring up this example, but it's a perfect example.

00:38:37.400 It's a perfect example.

00:38:41.840 Who is more cucked, Steven Crowder or Destiny?

00:38:45.480 Crowder got robbed.

00:38:46.920 He got his reputation destroyed.

00:38:48.580 Not really because he's a nice person, but he got his reputation destroyed.

00:38:52.360 He got robbed. 0.98

00:38:53.220 He had a virgin trad wife, but he was dumb enough to believe a 27-year-old. 0.99

00:38:59.740 Do you know what I mean? 0.99

00:39:00.300 No offense, Crowder.

00:39:01.940 We love you.

00:39:02.780 We love you, Crowder.

00:39:03.860 I was on your team in this awful divorce.

00:39:07.320 But in a way, you cucked yourself, right? 1.00

00:39:10.040 where destiny destiny comes in and said yeah do you know what my wife is a whore she's gonna go 1.00

00:39:16.860 be a whore i'm gonna enjoy this relationship while it lasts and i'm gonna go be a whore too 1.00

00:39:22.300 i'd put him higher everyone calls destiny a cuck but i would argue that crowder was more 1.00

00:39:30.200 cucked in that situation i would argue it i i would die on the hill so yeah um so i don't know

00:39:38.540 am I contradicting myself here? I don't think I'm contradicting myself by saying women should, 0.93

00:39:45.460 should be virgins on their wedding nights, but we're not.

00:39:52.780 And so what happens is usually the women that actually are virgins until marriage 0.99

00:39:59.420 are either lying, bitchy, naggy, or there's something seriously wrong with them. 1.00

00:40:05.420 that's been my or they get so much clout and they take so much status off of being a virgin that 0.99

00:40:13.200 they get these big egos and it's game over too because remember virginity we got to get rid of 0.98

00:40:20.540 this idea that somehow virgin women are somehow more moral people now maybe like you could argue

00:40:27.880 they're more moral than say the only fans models but just because you're a virgin all a virgin a

00:40:34.060 virgin is doing is not doing it the men do the men do this too they signal purity or like they're

00:40:40.280 good people because they don't sleep around but it's like you're just not doing something that's

00:40:46.240 not being kind it's not being considerate it's not being helpful all it is it's just not partaking

00:40:54.080 you know i'll give you an example okay i i'm trying to think of some of my worst traits here

00:41:03.540 I don't know how much I want to tell on myself today.

00:41:08.560 I can be a bit anxious, you know, as a person.

00:41:12.540 I'm kind of fidgety.

00:41:14.060 You know, I talk too much.

00:41:15.600 I'm not always considerate when there's just times in my life where I wish I was a better person, right?

00:41:23.920 But I've never done drugs.

00:41:26.720 I've never done.

00:41:27.760 I could get too emotional.

00:41:29.680 I'm an emotional person, so sometimes that gets me in trouble.

00:41:33.540 but I've never done drugs. I've never done, I've never done Molly,

00:41:37.920 Percocet, any, any drug. I mean, I don't really think, I guess weed,

00:41:43.040 I don't know if I should be admitting that on the internet, but like once or twice,

00:41:46.780 but I've never really been into that either. Right. Damn it. I said it on camera. It's too

00:41:52.280 late. You know, it is what it is, but, but you guys see what I'm saying? Like I am not more,

00:42:00.280 I'm impatient. Actually, that's probably my worst trait. I am not a patient person. I'm not.

00:42:07.020 Oh, and I get so annoyed when things take forever. On one end, it's fueled me because I think it's

00:42:13.620 actually driven me to achieve things because I get so annoyed that things aren't happening that

00:42:18.640 I just keep trying to make it happen. But at the same time, the slow and steady wins the race thing.

00:42:25.340 I you know what when I've ever gotten good at something it's been I got obsessed with this

00:42:29.920 for a year and I got good at it that's how I get good at things um but I'm also kind of like I can

00:42:37.960 be fooled easily um so you know like I just think um I think I could I could see myself getting put

00:42:46.900 into like a a cult or something I could just see it working on me or I don't know I don't know maybe

00:42:55.040 whatever it doesn't matter but it doesn't make me a better person or more moral it just means i

00:43:01.340 don't do drugs do you know what i mean now there are some bad habits that you might pick up if

00:43:07.480 you're a druggie right the same way there are some terrible habits you'll probably pick up if you're 0.98

00:43:12.560 too much of a whore but too often women rely on like having a low body counter virginity as a way 1.00

00:43:19.780 to signal virtue. And it's really just not doing something that nobody really should know about 0.99

00:43:26.360 anyways. Like, I don't know why we're talking about it. Now, this is not me saying to be a

00:43:31.840 whore. And to be honest, guys, I just don't really see virgins taking the men that women want. 0.99

00:43:38.920 So I know you're saying this is like a Pearl's like jealous or whatever. I think I'm more 1.00

00:43:46.020 jealous of bonnie blue to be honest i mean i wouldn't want to i wouldn't want to take a

00:43:52.260 thousand you know that's a lot but you know i mean that chick 0.91

00:43:57.000 i mean hell she's she's living in like a penthouse in london and all she's got to do 1.00

00:44:05.460 is have sex i'm like that's pretty i mean i personally i i could never be comfortable with 0.94

00:44:11.600 that, but it's a joke. Please don't take that too seriously. All right. So the challenge is the

00:44:20.600 virgin women today have way more power and options than the virgin women of yesterday. 1.00

00:44:26.380 So we cannot reasonably expect them to make the same choices as the virgin women of yesterday. 0.99

00:44:32.860 We literally can't. Because before it was like you're excommunicated from your community.

00:44:38.940 uh you could never like you could really you're going to be looked at like a prostitute i i mean

00:44:45.860 i'm just i'm speculating here we're now i mean women can make a divorce brand 1.00

00:44:51.260 women can literally make money and build an online following of of divorce 1.00

00:44:57.880 now the next comment I got was that virgins can pair bond and non-virgins cannot 0.99

00:45:09.860 now I have to look back at my um my personal experience now you have to understand

00:45:19.960 that I do have a lot of enemies and I try to I try to be respectful in what I share

00:45:26.560 but while I would say for me that was a very bonding experience I cannot say that was the

00:45:36.360 majority of what I saw with women when I was younger in fact I was shocked by how little 1.00

00:45:44.240 it meant to women when I was younger I was actually shocked um and I'm going to change 1.00

00:45:53.420 these stories a little bit not that i knew would any of you would know who i'm talking about but

00:45:59.020 i'm gonna list some ways that i knew women lost it and what happened there was one woman i know 0.96

00:46:06.700 um i mean she lost it at a party to a guy she never saw again and she did not care she just

00:46:11.820 kind of wanted to get it over with so she could join in on the fun um another woman i know she 1.00

00:46:17.580 did lose it to a chad and she did like that chad for like a year then she banged like 20 dudes 1.00

00:46:24.300 met her husband he was number 20 she got out of the game at like 22 married kids another woman i

00:46:31.980 knew um had a high school boyfriend lost her virginity too and i remember her explicitly

00:46:37.340 telling me she didn't really understand why women were so attached right she was like i mean i just

00:46:42.700 dumped him when i went to college i didn't really care um or i dumped him for this next guy didn't

00:46:47.260 really, it didn't really matter to me. And this was a common theme. I mean, a lot of women I saw, 1.00

00:46:54.160 they didn't really care. Now, what I saw, the patterns actually kind of, it was more based on

00:47:01.700 women's looks level. Hot women didn't care as much because they had more choice. Midwomen tended to 1.00

00:47:10.500 care more. Um, but not all, and I can, I, even as I'm saying this, I'm still thinking of women

00:47:18.520 that I knew that definitely contradicted this, but, uh, still, still, I would say broad brush

00:47:26.540 strokes, right? Um, so the virgins of today are not the virgins of yesterday because the virgins 0.51

00:47:33.700 of yesterday, did not have access to social media. The reason I'm saying this, it's not to be a

00:47:41.940 downer. I'm not saying that the world should be this way. But if virginity was so bonding,

00:47:50.920 women would stay with the men they lost their virginities to. And what I see more often is 0.99

00:47:56.420 from the women with the most choice, a starter high school boyfriend, slut phase in college,

00:48:03.240 starter college boyfriend graduate city boyfriend at one point the women opt out how early how 1.00

00:48:11.240 slutty do they get in each phase it depends um um but the reason i'm saying this is not to be a

00:48:24.480 downer. But I want to remind you that just cause she, she's a virgin, it doesn't mean she's not

00:48:34.340 going to ruin your life. It doesn't mean, you know, if you want to take it as jealousy, that's

00:48:41.580 totally fine. Um, I, I really, you know, I have a lot of negative traits. I do. Um, I'm not going

00:48:48.060 to pretend, I'm not going to be holier than thou here and pretend I'm like a saint. I'm not,

00:48:52.220 but do you know what it's interesting because a lot of the adjectives that are negative that I get

00:48:59.000 I get called online I would not say describe me I'm really not a jealous person they say I'm a

00:49:07.440 bitter person I'm usually in a pretty good mood you know what I mean um but there are negative

00:49:15.400 adjectives that I I would agree you know they used to say you don't have enough life experience

00:49:19.560 And I would say that was true.

00:49:21.540 I think when I started, I wish I had more life experience because some of the takes I had just weren't the best, but they get better every year.

00:49:28.560 So that's all I can give you.

00:49:31.060 You know, I would say I was maybe too moralistic to start.

00:49:36.320 I wish I didn't do that.

00:49:37.420 But, you know, it is what it is.

00:49:39.080 I got to I got to keep going.

00:49:42.360 But the virgins I've met today, I would say in general, they're either not that attractive.

00:49:46.980 They have huge ego, zero relationship skills.

00:49:50.220 And I want to stress, if they're over a certain age and have not lost their virginity, it's really not because of morals, but generally because they are either very unattractive in some way, grossly overrank themselves, or just don't have access to the type of men they want.

00:50:06.840 And the mids suffer the most that try to hold out, because you really, as a mid, you've got to lower your price.

00:50:12.720 and these churches, telling a mid to wait till marriage is like the worst advice you could give

00:50:19.100 a mid. You can give a beautiful woman that advice, but a mid, yeah, right. Men are not waiting for a 1.00

00:50:24.740 mid. I'll tell you that. You know what I mean? They're just not, I mean, maybe you could do an

00:50:31.480 age gap and you could shoot for it. But if you want men your age, I don't see that working. I

00:50:36.540 don't. Um, all right. So stories I've heard from men, um, of men that have taken women's virginities.

00:50:45.700 One, he took her virginity. She became a flight attendant, got a tattoo and didn't really care

00:50:50.380 after. Um, usually hot women have a starter boyfriend that they leave. Midwomen tend to 1.00

00:50:58.080 lose it to a Chad, either in a situationship or a one night stand. Um, some of the mids care, 0.91

00:51:03.780 some don't. Maybe it depends on the Chad. Do men with choice choose virgins? Yes, men with choice 0.54

00:51:12.960 do want virgins, but they do not want virgins more than they value their freedom and ability 0.94

00:51:18.560 to bang multiple women. So a lot of the guys with choice really are not going to wait till marriage

00:51:25.100 because they've really, once they've taken a few girls virginities, they don't really think it's 0.99

00:51:29.680 this like great thing that they thought it was because some of the women were bitches after 1.00

00:51:35.280 and they kind of it puts it into perspective they're like oh my gosh what if i committed 0.98

00:51:39.560 the rest of my life to this woman and she flipped a switch you know um chads take a lot of women's 1.00

00:51:48.680 virginities um and chads aren't going to stay with you just because you're a virgin if you're 1.00

00:51:53.880 a bitch, they'll dump you and leave you. I would argue that religious women are also more likely 1.00

00:51:59.600 to call you abusive on the way out because they're more concerned with the reputation of the liberal

00:52:03.580 women. Now, I do want to, I don't want to give the virgins too much smoke. Obviously, the pros 1.00

00:52:12.040 is that women are more able to bond the less partners they've had. But, and that is true. 1.00

00:52:22.260 However, the virgins of today, the virgins of yesterday did not have social media.

00:52:29.620 They didn't.

00:52:31.360 So that's my monologue.

00:52:33.060 We're going to do a call in.

00:52:36.200 And we're going to put Doug MPA on the line in a second.

00:52:41.220 But I got to put this invite link.

00:52:44.860 Invite guest.

00:52:46.520 Copy this.

00:52:49.040 And then I'm going to put it in the chat.

00:52:51.660 And on Twitter. Give me a second. Am I cooking or am I not cooking? Maybe I'm wrong. I could be wrong. But the question is, what? I missed the naive, innocent pearl a few years ago. It's been fun watching. Yeah, it's gone. This is why men like younger women, because now I'm the annoying one. 0.66

00:53:15.820 I have to be the annoying one being like, yeah, that's not real.

00:53:22.460 Even the men, they want to be lied to too. Yeah. I mean, unfortunately, you know,

00:53:29.660 when I started, yeah, I was, I was very naive. I was very naive. I was, I was, I was, I was,

00:53:38.200 hold on I gotta log in so yeah the damn it I did not I'm gonna I'm gonna do this on my phone I know

00:53:48.740 this is kind of annoying but I forgot my password so I gotta I gotta so I want to know you guys's 0.97

00:53:55.720 experience so I want to know have you guys banged virgins what was your experience with it 0.98

00:54:03.300 um i want to know if you think i'm wrong if i'm am i contradicting myself

00:54:09.380 maybe i am um i'm open to you know i'll take the smoke it's fine gabrielle says so guys shouldn't

00:54:18.120 wait that would be stupid in 2025 i mean you can wait i mean and i'm not here to tell men how to 0.99

00:54:24.920 live i'm really really not um but you can do whatever you want if you think i'm full of shit 0.99

00:54:31.580 you know but you're taking an already unfavorable deal i wouldn't recommend it i would not like 0.82

00:54:37.900 because you're basically the only leverage you have as a man because you can't be in a traditional

00:54:44.220 marriage in 2025 it doesn't exist anybody that says they are it's cosplay it's literally cosplay

00:54:51.580 because in order to be in a traditional marriage you have to be able to enforce

00:54:56.220 you have to be able to lay that like you know imagine if we had a police officer right and

00:55:03.260 when i interact with a cop i have to submit right i have to say yes sir no sir i always like when

00:55:09.420 they're coming up i put my hands on the wheels to know i don't have anything you know i make

00:55:14.380 them feel comfortable whatever if if they arrest me i go and the reason i go is because i know they

00:55:20.240 have the power to ruin my life. But if you marry a woman, you're automatically giving her more 1.00

00:55:27.700 power to ruin your life. The only leverage you have is women hate being cheated on. 1.00

00:55:32.920 So if women know that you're going to cheat if you treat her bad, that's enforcement. It's not, 1.00

00:55:38.520 you know, you might say it's immoral, but it's immoral to steal the kids, right?

00:55:45.420 Making her work for a ring and saying, I'm not going to marry you if you don't do X, Y,

00:55:49.860 and z and behave or at least i get like 10 years out of this now every man has to pick his own

00:55:56.400 strategy but what the conservatives do is they tell men to give up they say you're immoral and

00:56:04.140 you are wrong for giving up your leverage because you need to now basically they tell men to be

00:56:12.920 traditional when the women aren't that's not on the menu you can't order that on the menu 1.00

00:56:19.500 um yeah so i sent this to the to this is shaw if he comes in i'm gonna let him in 0.89

00:56:28.540 i'm in control of the mute now by the way so i can i can kick you guys which is amazing before 0.94

00:56:35.820 i wasn't in control doug mpa uh what was have you banged virgins how did it go yeah i have um 0.99

00:56:44.780 um surprisingly a lot of mormons a lot of mormon girls i was that the black dude that was 0.97

00:56:51.980 um these poor mormon girls grew up in a repressive 0.99

00:56:56.180 religious household and their revenge was to sleep with the black dude 1.00

00:57:00.860 that's always fun wait here we go i like this one yeah and so was your experience that they 0.91

00:57:13.040 were super bonded i i would say so would you was your how many virginities did you take i guess is

00:57:19.360 my first question uh in my life six okay how many were bonded to you five oh cool and what happened

00:57:31.040 why didn't you marry him what went wrong so i went through um my very first relationship

00:57:37.960 in my life was five years okay and then i moved off to college and after five years i was like

00:57:45.020 yeah i know so um most yeah so uh that's what it was you know i started running into these girls 0.95

00:57:53.780 in my undergrad and that happened and i was like nope i spent five years in relationship

00:58:00.200 from my late teens to early 20s i'm not going to do that again but it's interesting because in a

00:58:05.500 way the women must not have like how i put it like when men are in a relationship phase virgins 0.85

00:58:13.460 never pick them do you know what i mean say that one more time so women have a menu right you know 1.00

00:58:20.460 how men have a menu and women have a menu that analogy yes and women can order a man in a 0.98

00:58:26.140 relationship phase but we order the fun guy yeah 100 true and so it's like if women really wanted 1.00

00:58:32.300 to wait why did you order the fun guy it and also um the you sleep with a virgin right and 0.87

00:58:41.340 she's bonded to you but then you still have the risk it's it's a screwed up situation all the way 0.62

00:58:49.440 around you don't want to wait till sex no you don't want to wait till marriage to have sex because

00:58:54.060 um a man doesn't truly audit a woman for a relationship until after sex happens you don't

00:59:00.480 want to uh pearl i'm gonna put you this way guys put up with all sorts of stuff until they get sex 0.90

00:59:08.200 then you sleep with the woman you're like why is her voice so annoying why is she nagging me all 1.00

00:59:12.740 the time why is she chew with their mouth open i'm serious yeah before sex and these guys were 1.00

00:59:18.160 dumb enough to marry these women uh without having sex with them and then if they're stuck with 0.99

00:59:23.800 the woman after sex happens um and so even if you're not married you sleep with the girl 1.00

00:59:31.860 you bond with her but then you still have to run risk she's gonna change your perception of her

00:59:38.880 is gonna change after you have sex with her then her perception of you is gonna change after you 1.00

00:59:43.440 marry her understand i'm saying yeah so they get married they bang and they're like oh shit that 1.00

00:59:50.100 was starfish sex there's no better sex than the sex before marriage because that's when women 1.00

00:59:58.400 after are working for the ring you know what i mean yeah how many guys uh in the chat never heard 0.96

01:00:04.640 i'm too tired or i have a headache until they got married yeah or actually nowadays you hear that

01:00:13.140 after you move in with a woman you move in with the woman all of a sudden i have a migraine

01:00:17.860 i have a headache my job was too tough and i'm too tired yeah cooked

01:00:24.660 um i'm gonna bring glenn up glenn no yeah what's up man no much no much how you living you guys

01:00:36.220 doing good good how are you i'm well i'm well just busy working on this non-profit

01:00:42.060 nice what's your experience with virgin women now it's been a long time because i have a rule 0.79

01:00:50.140 because i don't i don't if you're a virgin at any age i don't care i run away from you you're a 0.82

01:00:55.140 problem why okay because they become too clingy like you know you like tell me see guys don't

01:01:04.480 tell them up front like hey this is just a thing we having a good time i'm not gonna be your

01:01:08.520 husband i'm not trying to be your husband but then after you give them the d they think that

01:01:13.000 you're their husband yeah but you've been married before i know so but i'm saying like before he's

01:01:18.660 like i know before you were in the market for marriage at once yeah yeah yeah so it like what

01:01:26.240 would be wrong with a clingy woman and that's you know because like what what doug said now now we 1.00

01:01:33.480 realized we have we're we have we now aware of all your annoyingness like we tolerated it and

01:01:39.620 we realized you know after the sex versus your irritation level that you guys give us it's just

01:01:47.100 not worth it it's just like you know no no no you know and here's the thing though um 0.64

01:01:54.120 women a bunch of women always say they're burgess doug you know how many women have 1.00

01:01:59.320 probably told you that i've never done this before we haven't i think i think that i've never done

01:02:07.580 this before is a lot on the version conversation though i mean well i've never you've never had

01:02:14.660 girls that say that they've never done this before like in the half revolving involving sex 1.00

01:02:19.240 yeah but they never claim to be versions a lot of women that say i've never done this before 1.00

01:02:24.180 will say that about um anything besides missionary sex you know what i'm saying

01:02:29.700 oh yeah you know i've never okay i've never swallowed before or you know i've never taken

01:02:36.540 it in the back door or you know you know i've never yeah i've heard them say that but i wouldn't

01:02:41.220 assume that a woman that i've never done this before is a virgin i've i think it's still a

01:02:46.260 strong kind of a different kind of thing if a woman says i'm a virgin and she's not but

01:02:50.580 yes i would agree that women do lie about being virgins though so here's the thing i don't think

01:02:56.220 virginity is that important i could care less about your virginity um because one i can never 0.99

01:03:01.660 validate that verify that or you know fact checking that pussy does not come with the fact 1.00

01:03:06.760 check there's no badge check that comes i can't get a report on that badge check okay um 0.97

01:03:13.740 since there's no badge check you just want me to take your word for it well you know what

01:03:19.160 women lie men lie you know so i'm just gonna assume that you have a past so with that being 0.96

01:03:25.300 said it's just like i don't care if she's a virgin or not how does she treat you if she 1.00

01:03:30.420 doesn't treat you right if she doesn't treat you the way that you want your future wife to treat 1.00

01:03:35.640 you then it's a pass bro i have a question for pearl and glenn real fast do you think that

01:03:44.640 oh i'm sorry go ahead i want to welcome this is shaw to the panel hi pearl thanks for having me

01:03:50.360 again what's going on good to see you glenn hey how you doing in a second we'll have you go

01:03:55.300 through the history you know i've been trying to get a hold of you so really but i wanted yeah

01:04:00.560 anytime glenn i'm i like your stuff man and thank you you're able to pass on this on this question

01:04:06.460 if you don't want it but have you been virgin how was it uh no not for me you know i didn't start

01:04:12.680 dating till a little later. And the way I date now, to be honest, it's not really a concern for

01:04:18.500 me. I've not really cared. So. Okay, cool. Doug, MPO, what was the question?

01:04:28.080 Tradcon's trying to say that a woman saving herself until marriage is supposed to be some 0.99

01:04:33.040 kind of predictor of good behavior or virtue. Like, do you think that there's any truth to

01:04:39.740 that at all no I don't think so I really don't know because do you know what every time I've 0.99

01:04:44.940 met a woman that's a virgin like 90% of the time she's a bitch who uses it to like 1.00

01:04:51.560 no no okay because because if you're like yeah I'm a whore you kind of got to be nice 1.00

01:04:57.140 but like every time I meet okay I've met and the thing is women that are virgins and they 0.98

01:05:07.140 want to wait till they're married i did know a girl in high school who did that and she actually 1.00

01:05:12.060 was a sweetheart but she was done by 21 she was not if you're that's why i said over a certain

01:05:17.920 age there's something wrong with you you're not about it because girls that are about it 0.99

01:05:22.560 she went to school she went to like i'd have to i don't want to dox anybody so she went to a school

01:05:29.940 that i'll just say her type was at it had all the stem majors she was like i am going to marry a 1.00

01:05:35.460 doctor and she said it she went there she did it housewife but she was done by 21 that's why like

01:05:42.160 when I meet them and they're like 24 I'm like I don't think you're about this like I just I don't

01:05:48.800 think you're I don't think you mean that you know I think you just like the like clout because in a

01:05:54.240 lot of church communities they get clout for like telling everybody that it's like um in the

01:05:59.600 attention economy so i was hoping i'm sure you could go through maybe some of the history of

01:06:06.400 marriage because i was kind of curious what did men get in the past versus today um now obviously

01:06:13.280 we can't verify the virginity stuff so i was more curious in terms of like dowry um in terms of

01:06:20.460 women staying like age like what age women married at before like that sort of thing yeah sure i mean 0.99

01:06:28.160 it's definitely a lot, but I'll condense as much as I can. And you know what most people today are

01:06:33.740 familiar with goes back to about the 1950s. That's what the Tradcons are selling, and that's what 0.99

01:06:39.460 they consider traditional marriage. Prior to that was the dowry system, which we discussed during

01:06:44.560 our sit down. And that was actually here not too long ago. I mean, it got abolished in France in

01:06:50.560 the 1960s. In Italy, it was in the 1970s. In Greece and Spain, it was in the 1980s. England

01:06:57.620 was kind of the first to push it away and the u.s after that was following it but but in that system

01:07:04.740 if a woman did not have a dowry she was not able to get married i have a newspaper clipping of the

01:07:11.140 pope handing out dowries um in the 1800s i believe and the women it says in the newspaper clipping

01:07:18.740 would now be able to obtain a husband or have the money to join a convent basically it was up to

01:07:23.620 to them at that point so this dowry system was what marriage was in the west um so not just in

01:07:30.780 other places but in the west for a very long time all throughout uh christian europe prior to that

01:07:37.260 in the roman empire and prior to that in ancient greece and it's actually kind of a big clue

01:07:43.560 because the one of the other systems is bride price which you see in the old testament that's

01:07:47.720 the mohar um but if you see an ancient society and they're a dowry paying society you can pretty 0.92

01:07:53.100 much guess that they're a lot more advanced because bride price societies are typically 0.89

01:07:57.780 poorer. So prior to dowry societies, you had the bride price, which is there was a set amount,

01:08:05.540 a uniform amount. It's not a bidding war. There is a uniform amount for how much someone is expected

01:08:11.740 to compensate her family, not her, but her family in order to marry her. So going back prior to

01:08:19.460 dowry, we had bride price. And nestled within all that is changes in family law. Divorce and

01:08:27.800 polygyny tend to be a little higher with bride price paying societies. In early dowry societies, 0.61

01:08:35.400 that's where monogamy starts to come in. But divorce was still really a civil matter. 1.00

01:08:41.220 There were ways to get divorced and there was divorce laws around that. Then as Christianity 0.99

01:08:45.600 takes over and it slowly changes in europe um it becomes no divorce so you only have annulments

01:08:52.060 and things like that going for you know almost 2 000 years all the way up until um industrialization

01:08:59.800 and things starting to change basically and then you get um you know the u.s which as soon as the

01:09:07.480 american revolution happens they're already pushing back against the church of england and

01:09:11.000 say we want divorce to be a thing we can do and then you start to see this system of at-fault

01:09:15.440 divorce being created because they didn't have anything to fall back on because for 2000 years 0.99

01:09:20.260 there was no divorce just annulment then you start to see marriage wrestled away from the church

01:09:25.380 and put into the hands of the state and divorces used to happen in the state legislature and then 0.97

01:09:31.580 it started being taken over by the civil courts and they started coming up with cause which would

01:09:36.160 have been adultery I think that's what it was in New York early on and all these kinds of things

01:09:40.360 now to relate this to virginity a little bit because I know that's what you're talking about

01:09:45.100 the way these different systems of marriage come up is really very much related to how property

01:09:53.640 is transmitted throughout society and how the economy works. In bride price paying societies, 0.99

01:10:01.320 this is a long time ago, women contributed the major labor value to agriculture. Okay. So the 0.98

01:10:10.300 reason you paid the bride price was because her family was losing her labor value and you are

01:10:17.360 giving them a uniform amount because that's going to allow them to procure another woman either for 1.00

01:10:23.080 the guy who might have his second wife now or one of the sons in the family who might be getting his

01:10:27.080 first wife and then this creates a circulating fund and it goes around and you got kind of a

01:10:32.820 in exchange there okay and now she's working and her real income which is her labor on the farm 1.00

01:10:39.460 is contributing to the household wealth when the plow is invented because these poorer bride price 1.00

01:10:45.000 societies used to use a hoe and digging stick i can even share my screen and show you some of 0.99

01:10:50.020 some sources if you like i don't want to complicate it but i do have them here pulled up

01:10:53.500 then what happens is is a lot more wealth starts to be generated and you start to get

01:10:58.380 rich families middle class families lower class families and when that happens there's a lot more

01:11:04.600 concern about property transmission. And what happens is you start to see the dowry system 0.95

01:11:10.480 spring up. Now, the value on virginity and the amount of energy it takes to keep a woman a virgin 0.93

01:11:16.120 starts to increase as there's higher stakes for property being transmitted throughout generations.

01:11:22.540 So in a bride price paying society, having to basically guard her is less of an investment 1.00

01:11:29.100 because she's probably going to get married around puberty. Okay. Now, when the dowry system comes in, 1.00

01:11:34.400 pushes back marriage not to like what it is today where people are getting married at 28 or 30 but

01:11:40.160 to like 20 you know 18 to like 20 or something like that because it takes time to set up the

01:11:45.680 dowry for her to get married and if you have a and so virginity matters because the statuses of 1.00

01:11:52.160 the families are important but beyond that if she gets pregnant by some guy that's not on equal 0.97

01:11:57.440 footing with her family you now have a bastard because you don't have genetic tests back then 1.00

01:12:01.280 this bastard is going to have a higher trouble of of having any kind of integration with society 0.99

01:12:07.000 because how are you going to get this guy married we don't know who the dad is we don't he doesn't 0.99

01:12:10.120 have an inheritance request coming to him we can't negotiate this now if it's a daughter 0.96

01:12:14.440 we don't know there's not much contribution for a dowry except what her family may already have 0.97

01:12:20.180 to give her so guarding her virginity matters a lot because it's going to affect property 0.64

01:12:24.660 transmission for this family so there's an incentive to do that now i know this is me

01:12:29.520 probably distilling this down to a lot of just economic and property and money kind of concerns

01:12:35.460 yes yes but you know and then there's the spiritual aspect of this obviously religion

01:12:40.480 plays a role but you know typically religion helps us through these changes in our lives and

01:12:44.720 things like that and so that's kind of where it goes right then we go to this at fault system

01:12:50.460 and at fault is heavily influenced by what's called the love match okay and as you see the

01:12:55.240 dowry system go away you start to see i mean you start to see media coming in you know the printing

01:13:01.920 press came in in the 1400s you started to see tales of romantic chivalry being printed cheaper

01:13:08.000 now than ever and then as this started going on and industrialization and all these things came

01:13:13.480 it changed women's labor value in terms of what they can do um romantic stories were were really 0.83

01:13:20.460 big it's it's becoming part of the psyche but still in a lot of places the dowry system reigns 1.00

01:13:25.180 supreme you know even in germany we have data uh from a city in germany where it was required for

01:13:31.980 both parties to register their assets uh prior to the marriage and you can chart this out i have a

01:13:40.140 paper on this too i can show you guys how do you know that was not just in that specific city like

01:13:45.920 what percent of people did this i'm just curious oh because everybody did this from top to bottom

01:13:51.440 i have we have so many sources on this it's not even funny i mean we have stuff that's

01:13:56.900 contemporaneous with the times we have academic writings about this um so so we know we do know

01:14:03.280 exactly how it worked um and we can point back to it so and look at a ton of examples it was more

01:14:08.920 in the day there was just way more like the whole family money was riding on this on this girl not

01:14:13.900 being a whore well yeah there was a lot of that because i mean you know if if you ruin your family 0.99

01:14:20.060 status they might have other siblings they're trying to get married i mean it would just 0.99

01:14:23.940 complicate a lot of things and then you know all of a sudden she's at the tavern one night and we

01:14:28.820 don't know who gave it to her and we can't prove that and then you got you know these mouths to 1.00

01:14:32.920 feed over here we don't know who it is um and all this kind of stuff and then you know as we come

01:14:39.520 closer because the question is is marriage worth it um especially from trad or like that you know

01:14:45.040 you'll ask you'll say parallel you'll say marriage is a bad deal for men which i 100 agree with 1.00

01:14:50.500 especially the way that we do it today and the trad cons will come and try to argue with you

01:14:55.940 about that but we can provably show that marriage is a bad deal for men because there is so much

01:15:01.380 literature i got newspaper clippings i got academic journals that show that people who got married

01:15:07.020 their their wealth levels tended to match and that's how it was it was arranged so the woman 0.99

01:15:14.000 always came with this property in a lot of places the dowry was a whole house i mean in italy in 0.90

01:15:20.160 england there's a so not only do you not get a house you have to take a girl with a bad credit

01:15:24.960 score like yeah and you don't even get the free trial hey shot yeah i wanted to ask you about the

01:15:36.400 current situation in china sure how there's so in rural china there's like 19 million more men

01:15:44.640 than women and first off remember pearl how you always say that like rural women will move to the 0.72

01:15:51.040 cities a lot of of these women want to move to the cities and to forego that they're charging rural 1.00

01:15:58.800 men absorbent amounts of money on average like 19 to 20 000 so they'll charge city men cheaper 0.65

01:16:06.720 because if they get to marry in the city where the schools are better and stuff so the it's 0.96

01:16:12.480 they're not expected to be versions or anything like that it's just out of sheer availability

01:16:17.760 and they're trying to push the government to abolish this whole bride price thing because 0.93

01:16:22.320 in certain areas of china it's gotten out of control yeah china is an interesting place 0.99

01:16:27.760 historically because it's such a big place i mean you've seen bride price and you've seen dowry

01:16:32.480 systems occur there uh typically for rural areas you would see more of a bride price system 1.00

01:16:38.080 and then in certain places where in the cities where there's more urbanization and class

01:16:41.680 differentiation you would see you would see dowry systems um they're in some trouble there because

01:16:47.680 you know they had communism for a bit and with communism coming in that got rid of a need for a

01:16:52.960 a lot of like these kinds of concerns because it's suddenly government daddy now and it's just

01:16:58.320 it's completely different um you can argue our robust welfare system over here has caused a lot

01:17:03.580 of problems maybe we can talk about that later oh yeah boy but then they had their one child policy 0.99

01:17:07.540 and all that which really skewed the population numbers um a lot you know and even in the past

01:17:15.420 um you know i read something i was reading this book from like a hundred years ago this isn't just

01:17:20.380 than China, but this is also in England, and they were looking at England and India.

01:17:25.060 There was less men, and there was more women, not only because of wars and things like that,

01:17:30.820 but also because a baby that's a male's head is a little bit bigger than a girl's. So there was a

01:17:37.240 lot more infant mortality with boys. So this would affect the numbers, especially going through

01:17:44.880 industrialization and these kinds of things. But that's an interesting aside. So what they're

01:17:48.660 dealing with over there and i've seen some of those videos i don't know how many of them are

01:17:51.880 true because they're all translated but i believe them for the most part where a lot of guys are

01:17:56.020 having trouble they're either having to leave or get brides from somewhere else but then there's

01:17:59.620 also a lot of leftover women who want so much that they don't get married and that's becoming 1.00

01:18:06.620 a phenomena over there too to where it would be especially if they're living in the city

01:18:11.860 and it's it's about status it's about trying to secure a husband that's going to you know have a 0.80

01:18:19.540 higher income then they need a dowry system to do that for her and that's the only way you know 1.00

01:18:24.320 like there's all these issues because the government have has come in and made all these

01:18:28.160 changes even a thailand's another interesting example in that they they paid the bride price 0.52

01:18:34.620 over there but they were technically polygynous it was not illegal for a guy to marry a second

01:18:38.780 woman until the 1930s when the king just said we're not doing this anymore we're doing monogamy 0.99

01:18:43.660 but they never changed from bride price to dowry so it's kind of you know this weird thing so

01:18:48.540 there's been a lot of like people coming in here and messing up the systems for what what they used

01:18:53.100 to be basically would you say the biggest problem in this is that i'm gonna i'm gonna read super

01:18:59.500 chats for one second and then we'll welcome sean to the panel so um caesar says this is shaw always

01:19:05.020 has something interesting to say yes he does um doug i didn't know you were such a tyrone i'm not

01:19:12.300 angry just disappointed you should be proud what do you need guys babe thank you for the uh cat

01:19:21.100 super chat uh silveria low body count is loyal they said get her early they said let's ask mxr 0.96

01:19:27.740 henry how genie turned out after 10 plus years of success 100k a month income um yeah okay so again

01:19:37.100 my point is not and maybe they're saying i'm contradicting myself but the original deal i

01:19:44.620 thought was men got virgins so i guess that's what it should be but that's not what it is and i just

01:19:49.740 don't see virgins sticking around today um even the ones today it just seems like there's something

01:19:55.100 off but sean let me know what you think on the topic um feel free to add on either that question

01:20:01.740 or so anything else that was said go ahead welcome to the show no a lot was said so i don't know

01:20:06.940 where we at but shout out to everybody shout out to everybody on the stream right now so uh go ahead

01:20:15.260 go ahead bro so we were talking about how um in my experience i always thought that virgin women 0.70

01:20:21.100 were more moral or something but usually over a certain age there's just something wrong with them

01:20:27.660 do you agree disagree have you ever taken someone's virginity um and i also made the

01:20:34.460 point that virginity isn't what it used to be um women used to stay now even you can take 1.00

01:20:42.700 someone's virginity and they'll be on a flight to dubai the next week you don't know so yeah

01:20:48.460 Yeah, they're definitely going to be on that flight to Dubai. 0.54

01:20:50.900 Now, I'm not going to say nothing about if I took virginity.

01:20:54.540 I plead the fifth on that.

01:20:55.860 But what I would say is your assumption that they're good or bad.

01:21:00.220 I mean, it's quite rare for somebody to have that.

01:21:03.620 And if they do have that virginity in this point in time, then I don't know.

01:21:07.500 You have to really see why they maintain that virginity. 0.98

01:21:10.420 But you were right earlier in your assumption.

01:21:12.640 They're going to probably leverage that in a relationship or leverage that in their dealings. 0.54

01:21:17.920 in the marketplace. I think what was just being said about marriages in China and marriages also

01:21:25.060 in mating in, what's it called? Thailand while I'm here. Yeah, it's crazy. You're definitely

01:21:32.860 paying. You're paying buffalo, gold, land. Girls are raking up on that. As far as in China, 1.00

01:21:39.940 it's very bad in China. The guys are getting crushed. Girls actually have mating calculators, 1.00

01:21:45.560 so they know how much they could equate for worth. So it's a crazy marketplace. And I think things

01:21:52.020 have changed dramatically. One thing I would say, though, is in my history of Dayton, I have

01:21:57.600 received an offer for, you could say a dowry, but it was going in my direction. So the family

01:22:04.180 offered me money to marry their actual daughter. So that's extremely rare, but I got lucky on that

01:22:09.960 one. I still passed. But net net. It was an interesting situation. Her family was from Sudan. 0.99

01:22:16.900 So they offered me a massive amounts of funds to manage because majority of the sons in the family

01:22:22.200 were not competent to manage the actual family's portfolio. And the father felt like

01:22:27.520 if I was to marry his daughter, I would be a good successor. And then at the end of the day,

01:22:32.480 I was like, hell no, she can still divorce me and rob me at the end of it. So now I'm good.

01:22:36.760 and then i just backed out of the deal but yeah it's extremely rare for that to happen

01:22:41.520 yeah glenn what were you going to say earlier

01:22:44.960 i was going to say like you know this whole thing it's men appealing to women when really it really

01:22:54.680 needs to be the other way around if you think about it like her virginity is nice it's great

01:22:59.540 cool cute but how does she treat you what we already know what men could bring to the table 1.00

01:23:04.180 we are the protectors providers you know we are the ones that they're going to be taxing on at

01:23:09.540 the end of the day if they decide to leave we know that we are carrying the risk right so if we are

01:23:15.060 carrying the risk of the investment then what are what are we investing in why are we appealing to

01:23:21.300 the thing that we're trying to invest in when it should be them appealing to you the one that's

01:23:26.580 going to invest in them right so it's like we have this whole thing ass backwards and that's

01:23:33.780 why we're in this situation guys constantly trying to appeal to women trying to you know

01:23:38.260 dance to be the little monkey to try like hey i'm a good catch but you see what the top 20

01:23:44.420 of them are doing they're not even worried about women women are appealing to them that's the

01:23:48.260 mindset that guys need to have instead of this other way around because that's the only way

01:23:52.820 you're going to be able to flip it is reinstate the value system that's different like hey we

01:23:58.180 hold the value you are going to be the addition

01:24:02.820 yeah i agree i pearl i do want to add to that real quick because i am like the top

01:24:09.700 five percent of america and one percent globally i tell you what guys they're not doing nothing

01:24:14.740 fantastic for us neither they're just trying to take our money like i know you guys have dreams

01:24:21.140 that they're like and i'm six six six everything six pack six feet my six figures make seven

01:24:25.780 figures so it's like i still get raked over the coals it's worse though like they charge me a

01:24:31.060 high price and so i think kevin said it the best you're not a high value man you're a high target

01:24:36.980 so at the end of the day i'm just a target right so the coolness is just in my freedom

01:24:42.820 but outside of that when i get into a deal they want the whole barn they want everything

01:24:47.780 so it's not like hey man if i get this money and i become an ultra ninja i'm gonna get girls at my

01:24:54.860 beck and call nah they're just gonna play you that's it and it's worse up here i'm curious

01:25:00.920 how much money were you offered ah well the family estate has somewhere around like 50 million or

01:25:08.480 something it wasn't too bad he did well for himself for an immigrant to america oh my gosh

01:25:15.360 did you turn that down yeah i mean i got my own money and then i know what that comes with

01:25:21.660 i'm gonna get divorced and she's gonna take half of it like heck no 1.00

01:25:24.600 was she a complete goblin or something 0.97

01:25:28.500 nah i mean if i was still on the come up i would have took the offer though

01:25:33.620 but i wasn't so wait couldn't you put her on child support then or alimony 1.00

01:25:39.700 it would depend on how that deal went down if they invested some of that money into the conjugal

01:25:46.940 fund of that marriage then it would mean something if she split if it's just i'm an heiress for a 1.00

01:25:51.240 future date of some of this money then it means nothing now exactly and that was more on the last

01:25:57.180 one yeah can i can i add something just for the the high high value man i you know when i used to

01:26:04.660 work at child support i've i've read so many divorce orders and divorce judgments that would

01:26:08.460 across my desk. And even before a lot of this content was out there, I had realized that the

01:26:14.140 more a guy was making, the bigger fish he was to fry. So when I heard like Kevin Samuels or

01:26:19.760 coach Greg Adams use the word high value target immediately resonated with me because I'm looking

01:26:25.900 at it and this is such a bad deal. And this is where, you know, a lot of the red pill centers

01:26:30.780 around this concept of hypergamy. And a lot of times you'll see, they'll say, well, women are 0.99

01:26:35.960 hypergamous it's just their nature but the truth of the matter is is that really both both sides

01:26:42.560 of the equation are looking for the best deal they can get and the dowry system especially in 1.00

01:26:47.080 a monogamous society is is what checks hypergamy on either side um there is a really great comment

01:26:53.000 on one of the shorts that you posted of of us from our sit down pearl that described a situation

01:26:58.340 like this but the question i guess i want to ask is you know when i think of a high status man or

01:27:04.180 someone who's doing well how would you get that guy to be monogamous you know like i always think

01:27:10.040 of andrew tate if i had to pitch the deal to andrew tate how would i do that do any guys have

01:27:16.660 a suggestion i'll tell you mine after um i don't think men like that i think he would just find a

01:27:24.420 way around it yeah pros tried to ask multiple people to sell sell marriage it's one of the 0.87

01:27:29.960 things on her platform and no one can do it so i'm not going to even try maybe maybe there's

01:27:35.840 some sort of like if i was going to go the dowry route um it would have to be some sort of maybe 0.65

01:27:42.140 political influence that's probably what i would maybe let me add to that because i know where

01:27:48.000 you're getting at yeah for me i would take well that would be the only way i always i often say

01:27:55.100 I don't say I will never get married I would only get married to the the the owner of Hawaii he has

01:28:01.460 a daughter I would marry her yeah like that would be the only way I would get married so would it 0.98

01:28:06.880 have to be well well yeah well and that's where I'm getting at and there's interesting because

01:28:11.120 because the situation you just described Sean I hope if I'm getting your name right is um is what

01:28:16.620 you said was really interesting because after you became well off it became something you cared about

01:28:23.020 less because now you have that and what we tell men nowadays that's at least put out there as

01:28:28.140 common knowledge whether from trad cons or whoever is you have to make it you got to be a good

01:28:31.760 provider you got to you got to get past all these things and make all this money and then a woman's 1.00

01:28:35.720 going to want to pair up with you but if nobody helps him in his early days why would he feel

01:28:41.560 that he needs to be monogamous to one woman the dowry system helped these two help the guy get 1.00

01:28:47.480 started in his early 20s they said okay his family's a good family he's going to get a good

01:28:51.900 inheritance he he looks like he's starting off on a good career path he has a good trade let's

01:28:56.660 invest this money get his store open for him get a house set up for him as he grows into this higher

01:29:02.040 status there's no such thing as as leaving because these people they you're invested you're mutually

01:29:07.420 invested in this with someone like andrew tate i always think about it he'd probably still say no

01:29:11.860 but if someone came to him and said uh you know this is my daughter and she's coming with a province

01:29:18.300 in Romania and some shipping lanes and they have this much income per year, he's going to have to

01:29:23.020 think about it at least and say, should I get rid of my webcam ladies or whatever? Or should I take 1.00

01:29:28.600 this? What's going to be a better prospect for my children going forward? And he can make that

01:29:32.380 calculation. But the point is, is it's a negotiation. It's a mutual contribution. And this

01:29:38.220 is how monogamy became a thing in higher complex civilizations and especially the West and why it

01:29:46.060 worked for so long so nowadays is when it comes to virginity if i'm a woman and my parents are 0.99

01:29:53.240 leaving me nothing to help me with the marriage or no no bequest i'm out here in the market and

01:29:58.740 i have to essentially play the love match game and rely on beauty um i don't know maybe it's 0.95

01:30:05.440 the better idea to start the only fans and get a million dollars like that 18 year old girl that 1.00

01:30:09.720 was on twitter recently and i bet i bet she would get more takers like to be honest yeah because 1.00

01:30:15.660 Because the families are putting out the daughters as essentially poor women, and then they're expecting some high-value, you know, some high-status guy or some guy with potential to take on this deal. 0.88

01:30:27.600 And then, you know, our family law system is essentially 50-50.

01:30:30.940 People don't like 50-50.

01:30:32.080 They don't want to hear the word 50-50.

01:30:33.520 They say it's a natural, but the fact is, is our law is 50-50.

01:30:36.120 so you know until they get that changed then i think if guys are going to take the monogamous

01:30:41.920 i'm married to you legally deal they have to demand a contribution until then then they're 1.00

01:30:47.800 going to keep doing what they're doing and the women are going to keep not caring about their 1.00

01:30:50.700 virginity because virginity is not enough to create monogamy as we're seeing in front of us 0.79

01:30:55.220 today well i think also guys need to prepare themselves before even thinking about marriage

01:30:59.840 even if you if you're going to get married if you're married minded then you need to protect

01:31:04.060 your assets and protect your things and there's ways to do that to where they even if you did get

01:31:08.620 married your assets are protected you know do like a trust and llc and you know have irrevocable

01:31:15.260 trust there and you know your mama like like hakimi did the human maneuver where you put it 0.99

01:31:23.660 all in your mom's name i'll put in your mom's name yeah well i mean in a way yeah but i mean

01:31:29.020 you could put it in a trust like what ford did for everything in a trust

01:31:33.100 before you see what um ronaldo's getting married finally i have to be with that girl i just saw

01:31:37.900 that years but guys where is he getting married saudi arabia you think she's going to be able to 1.00

01:31:45.180 get anything from him uh saudi arabia wealth is there now you know glenn to your point also sorry

01:31:53.020 to interrupt doug um is um that see that that's where this whole prenup discussion comes from

01:31:58.460 Prenups weren't really a thing. We had actual marriage contracts. Prenups are just a way of 0.98

01:32:03.560 saying, I know I'm taking a hypergamous deal and we're acknowledging this in the front. So I want

01:32:09.400 the higher, the person that's higher status or higher earner has more net assets, wants to create

01:32:15.060 some type of protection in order to take the hypergamous deal. Right. And then when you bring 0.65

01:32:20.060 up prenups and our society nowadays, you're the bad guy or why are you even bringing that up? I

01:32:24.900 think michael knolls told you pearl specifically that he doesn't even even believe in prenups but

01:32:29.740 prior to that i wonder if he believes in dowry you should ask him next time pearl he believes

01:32:34.120 i don't know if they'll have me back but i hope they do when we were there we asked them i was

01:32:41.600 like dude are you telling me if your son married a woman who got pregnant by another dude that

01:32:47.720 she knows it wasn't your son's kid yeah would you want him to stay married to her he's like

01:32:53.580 the divorces can't have divorce i was like so you want him to raise come on this other man's child 0.79

01:32:59.420 knowing that he was deceived to begin with i remember pearl asking something like that

01:33:04.780 specifically in the conversation um but the other what i'm trying to get at too is that there was a

01:33:10.300 defined marriage contract and the marriage contract listed the assets that both parties

01:33:15.180 were bringing and this was a thing that was discussed prior to the marriage nowadays

01:33:20.380 if you're a guy and you bring this up you're the bad guy you know for bringing this up oh you don't

01:33:24.060 love her or or uh that's not your concern i mean it's your deal to provide you shouldn't be

01:33:29.260 thinking about divorce but for most of human history we have been having that discussion

01:33:35.580 in the form of the marriage contract and it's it's weird because the closest thing we have now

01:33:39.820 is a prenup which forces that discussion somewhat but you know women they're playing that sort of 1.00

01:33:46.540 angle basically well they're manipulating me with that like like oh you're just setting yourself up

01:33:50.700 for failure you're you just have one foot out why are you thinking about the doors and here's

01:33:56.220 but oh go ahead doug you see that more and more women are getting taken for a ride and all the

01:34:03.260 women are like oh oh you need to get a prenup girl you need to get mary j blize has to pay her 1.00

01:34:08.780 mary j blize's ex kept six million dollars of her money and didn't pay her taxes and then 1.00

01:34:14.220 use that to to date and get with another woman and she has to pay him 55 000 a year

01:34:21.340 no a month and alimony right yeah alimony there are more and more instances of this and women are 1.00

01:34:28.460 encouraged to get a prenup but still if guys do it we're looked down upon it it's insane

01:34:34.140 but but i would i would offer to the conversation that's their job to do it they're selling a

01:34:39.180 product and they're making great deals for themselves i think men just got bad at making

01:34:43.020 deals for themselves. They have suspended their reason and logic in the sexual marketplace and 1.00

01:34:49.200 in courting. And then I would give you an example. Do you think Julius Caesar married the girl at

01:34:54.000 the bread shop because she was sexy? Absolutely not. He made it the concubine. Exactly. He only

01:35:01.080 married someone who was going to give him social, political and economic power. That's what marriage 0.70

01:35:05.900 was for. But at certain point, we have this thing called new wealth. And so men might get rich by

01:35:11.180 working at Google. Men might get rich by getting a get rich quick scheme or whatever it is,

01:35:16.400 but they enter into a new paradigm and then they say, well, I don't care about money. Well,

01:35:21.520 any man who's very industrialist and ingenious all around in all aspects of life, he would look

01:35:28.280 at it on a deal basis and say, why would I get married to you? Now, I'll give you something.

01:35:32.940 You don't even have to be Elon Musk. If you go to India, it used to be a time where you'll go to

01:35:38.000 india and then a family would say of engineers of lawyers would say you cannot marry that girl 0.84

01:35:44.600 she works at mcdonald's our family marries engineers only and so there was an exchange

01:35:51.840 always in the same class and in the same politics across the board we suspended it my brothers are 0.97

01:35:59.800 the same way he would always dump teachers he was like too dumb engineering like he literally 0.94

01:36:05.040 married yeah yeah yeah so we just suspended that though we're just like well i make money so i 0.90

01:36:09.920 don't care about it and it's like you always must care about it my brothers do well but they're like

01:36:15.040 that's when i came into the space and they were like i don't care about money

01:36:19.520 i i understand it's not the same but i was like i don't know my brothers they definitely did

01:36:25.520 another kind of um you see instead of actual wealth you you see another kind of marriage now

01:36:33.120 of like social capital so um russell wilson marrying sierra is another thing where russell

01:36:41.600 wilson it it changed his image and kind of verified his blackness because he married

01:36:46.080 sierra who was a single mom into hip-hop and stuff or bezos bezos marrying the super mid 1.00

01:36:53.520 uh lauren sanchez the greatest mid of all time 100 that should be studied man but she um 0.95

01:37:01.520 80 i think isn't it 80 to 85 percent of shoppers on amazon are women i guarantee you most of them 0.96

01:37:07.800 are between the ages of 30 and 50 and so it gets bezos social capital and it gets him in better

01:37:15.900 with his primary demographic of shoppers if he married you know an attractive single mom etc 1.00

01:37:22.740 because do you imagine if bezos would have made some 22 year old hot little russian model or 1.00

01:37:29.200 something they would have skewed him for it yeah you're just like leonardo

01:37:34.880 you brought up a lot of uh salient points there sean i i really agreed with all of that and pearl

01:37:42.580 to your point about men not caring about money it's completely wrong historically men have and

01:37:47.760 that was a major major part of the marriage negotiation um more recently when romance took

01:37:53.380 over and the love match took over and fundamentally romance is the pedestalization of the woman

01:37:58.860 putting the man down here, then there's no limit to what her entitlement expects and to what he 0.98

01:38:04.340 thinks he should give her. Then it's I don't care about money. The other thing that you're talking

01:38:08.540 about, Sean, there's there's two points is about, you know, this new money stuff. And that was

01:38:15.720 something that was a result of modernization. So it became this thing where now you can go to

01:38:20.740 college, you can go to school and you could start off from a lower status family and you could have

01:38:24.620 a higher chance of slingshotting yourself. And then at this point, you might demand a higher

01:38:29.640 dowry. And all these things kind of contributed to muddying the waters and people not knowing how

01:38:33.980 to negotiate that with romance taken over was like the perfect storm. But what's funny now is

01:38:41.180 I look at it now and I look at the cost of thing and wages not keeping up with the cost of living

01:38:46.260 and all these kinds of things. And we're sort of moving into this era where romance is kind of

01:38:50.440 taking a backseat because we can't afford romance anymore and what we do going forward is probably

01:38:55.320 going to have to be informed from what we did in the past uh and then to your point about concubines 1.00

01:39:00.820 it's it's funny you use that word because that's something i always mention and i like to say

01:39:04.600 tradcon wives are not they're not real wives they're nothing but concubines because they bring 1.00

01:39:09.580 nothing in they expect him to pay for everything and when you look at older sources there are older

01:39:15.160 sources from ancient rome uh and in different places that say the difference between a wife 1.00

01:39:20.320 and a concubine is that the wife comes with the dowry that's what puts her into the station 1.00

01:39:24.400 like you said about julius caesar or king henry the eighth she would not marry a um you know some

01:39:32.160 woman who's a local tavern wench or whatever worked at you know at the bakery whatever she does 1.00

01:39:37.160 the the woman that gets to occupy the queen's seat is bringing in a considerable dowry sometimes the 0.99

01:39:43.240 annual income of the entire kingdom for a year like it was in in his case so this you know a

01:39:49.500 lot of times you'll hear this other maxim that you know a man can make a woman a queen and this 0.99

01:39:53.380 and that but it's that's just not how it was i guess but it's going to be such a stupid deal 0.99

01:39:57.900 everybody's going to be looking at him like we have a dummy for a king we're all going to die 0.99

01:40:01.580 this is we need to assassinate this guy something needs we get rid of this guy he's not like we're 0.83

01:40:06.380 saying like he's willing to risk what he has yeah for something that he's not there's not any 0.91

01:40:11.060 value benefit wait pearl didn't that guy get stabbed out in game of thrones like that doing

01:40:16.480 some nonsense like that i don't you didn't ever see it oh my god the guy basically did the same

01:40:22.800 thing he was the king he was supposed to leave but he ended up just marrying some girl that was 1.00

01:40:26.580 helping people and it messed up his alliance with other people yeah he was supposed to work with

01:40:31.220 so i always just say like when you're having marriage men are hypergamous too they just

01:40:37.140 suspended it. Exactly. For me, that's the same thing I'm saying. What benefit do I get? I'm a

01:40:41.880 dealer. I wheel and deal. So at the same time, this relationship, this is a deal. And what is

01:40:49.500 the basis of that deal? But guys have suspended that. And I would say, if you think that's lame,

01:40:54.520 then call Genghis Khan lame. Call Julius Caesar the lame. But these guys would never sit around

01:40:59.740 in anything. Watch this, Pearl. Guys even took fat wives if they had a higher dowry. That's how 1.00

01:41:06.440 hypergamous they were i have sources on that girls were like go ahead they're them concubines though 1.00

01:41:12.940 so they're like look yeah i gotta go there with this fat one just one time but you know i got

01:41:16.540 these hotties over here though so you know i'm okay yeah that is true it's funny too because you 0.99

01:41:22.080 can like you were doing the most masculine men in history have have taken dowries they would not get

01:41:27.500 married and just throw away their marriage like that uh there was someone named alcibiades in

01:41:32.140 in ancient greece and he was a major player in the athens sparta war he was a general

01:41:37.100 he was actually fighting on both sides because he played this game of politics so well

01:41:41.340 and there's a there's a history about him and in the basically what happened is is he was bringing

01:41:46.380 too many escorts to the house and his wife got mad and one day she couldn't take anymore and

01:41:51.020 she decided to leave and he had to go over there and pretty much beg for her back because if she 0.92

01:41:56.780 left she was taking her dowry back with her and he wasn't going to be able to maintain his household

01:42:01.100 so it's like this guy was the general like he's one of the one of the you know this is a masculine

01:42:06.220 man you can say so we've all been really gaslit and we have this kind of weird collective amnesia

01:42:11.580 especially amongst men uh of understanding how to negotiate marriage and pearl i'm telling you

01:42:16.940 this whole conversation right here is what you gotta lob at the tradcon you know influencers

01:42:22.140 the next time they try to they try to they try to put the level of virtue on their morality you

01:42:29.820 know attached to it when it comes down to it's like you can be as moral as we want but it doesn't

01:42:35.580 mean the person that you're going to marry is going to be equally immoral as you are yeah and

01:42:40.300 we've seen the court system through the divorce system this that church girl that was you know 1.00

01:42:45.820 all good she loved jesus she prayed every sunday she was out there singing

01:42:50.140 she is just as like non-moral as like the the hoe on the street that reminds me would you guys take 1.00

01:42:57.180 a dowry in the form of only fans money so like the like someone like 50 million so sophia rain

01:43:04.540 comes in and she says hey guys wait wait she says she says i'm a virgin too because she says she's

01:43:15.020 a virgin i don't like me i'll say this girl i'll say this she's got 50 mil i think or something 0.99

01:43:23.020 like that she'll give you access to all of her money if you marry her pearl i'll say this i am

01:43:27.820 open for negotiation i will listen to the terms of the deal i will sit at that table i will i will

01:43:33.660 have the discussion in good full faith and credit you know what about you sean are you open to

01:43:39.900 negotiation yeah i mean you got to hear out every deal so you know money could be converted into

01:43:47.900 of the day let's get it gotta sit down then are you open i was i was out there at 50.

01:43:59.340 we have another panelist i'm gonna let some other people up uh but thank you guys so much

01:44:04.060 for coming in we have a full back thanks no worries no worries thank you pearl this is a

01:44:09.580 great panel so thanks for coming in uh okay um so now we got sean um

01:44:17.900 Sorry, that went a little off topic, but I'm hoping you can, but it was great.

01:44:21.720 It was so good guys.

01:44:22.860 There's a good convo going.

01:44:24.520 I try to keep it going, even if it's a little off.

01:44:27.280 But the real question we're talking about today is virgin women. 0.89

01:44:31.940 Have you ever dated a virgin, slept with a virgin? 0.61

01:44:35.940 Did it go well, bad? 0.74

01:44:37.420 Did you see what I saw? 1.00

01:44:40.960 Do you think I'm full of shit? 1.00

01:44:42.360 Whatever. 1.00

01:44:43.020 Go ahead.

01:44:43.840 Yeah.

01:44:44.040 I mean, can you hear me?

01:44:45.380 Yeah, I can hear you. 0.96

01:44:46.260 yeah i mean i can give you sort of my thoughts like uh pair bonding stuff is kind of bullshit 0.54

01:44:51.940 like uh you know i've been with sean are you on speaker or something because you sound really far 0.64

01:44:56.100 away okay uh let me change my audio real quick

01:44:59.740 can you hear me now that's better okay awesome uh yeah i was gonna say i think the whole bonding

01:45:09.740 stuff is kind of bs like i have been with the virgin before and i would say after sex they're 0.82

01:45:13.720 they're pretty clingy. But eventually, if the girl's not happy with you, she's going to bounce, 1.00

01:45:18.620 right? We know women tend to make up about 80% of the breakups in general. So I don't think because

01:45:23.080 you bond with a virgin, she's going to stick with you for life. Like, I think the trad cons are

01:45:27.520 totally wrong on that. But, you know, I would say, you know, as far as sort of the video,

01:45:33.380 I think it's about like, you know, virgins over 25 in particular, like, I think men like the idea

01:45:37.600 of a young virgin, for a lot of reasons, including the fact that they're genuine, they're generally

01:45:42.500 more impressionable and appreciative of a man's efforts and value compared to a girl who's been

01:45:47.620 with like 10 guys till Sunday. Right. So, you know, if you start meeting girls that are like 0.74

01:45:53.960 still virgins past 25, which I have, there's always something wrong with them. Like they're

01:45:58.020 either very sexually repressed or, you know, to y'all's point is they try to use it as a bargaining

01:46:02.940 chip. Like I am higher value than these other women because, you know, I haven't given it up

01:46:08.100 that easily, which to me, you know, I agree with Glenn, you know, really what matters is who you're

01:46:13.840 dealing with, right? Like, does she have a good attitude? Is she very supportive? You know, does

01:46:17.840 she put out pretty well and easily, right? Or is she, you know, the type of girl who's just very 0.95

01:46:23.200 prudish-like, right? You don't want to deal with a virgin prude type girl. Like, it just doesn't 0.98

01:46:27.380 make any sense to me. So, you know, when I meet girls that are like, you know, 25 plus that are 0.97

01:46:32.640 still virgins right i would uh equivalent that to like a used car with really low miles that it's

01:46:38.480 been left on the lot longer and longer and then they keep dropping the price but like it's still

01:46:43.360 not leaving the lot right and you're wondering like why is that still there and eventually they

01:46:48.640 drop the price though it's so freaking low someone takes it off the lot and what ends up happening

01:46:53.200 right the headlight goes out the brakes jam up the horn goes off randomly and you realize that

01:46:58.080 that guy bought a lemon right uh so you know i'm in the camp of the longer the girl's a virgin 1.00

01:47:03.920 generally speaking there's something kind of off with that girl and it's not necessarily

01:47:08.240 something you want to deal with in a relationship long term uh and i i would say anything that

01:47:14.480 you're good at takes practice even like relationships so if a woman is 30 years old 1.00

01:47:22.720 and she's a virgin she's either never had a relationship or she's too crazy to have even 0.99

01:47:28.720 gotten into the relationship stage to get to sex so it's like do you want to be that person's guinea 0.95

01:47:34.720 pig i agree with that and you know what the whole starfish comment i think that's accurate right like

01:47:40.000 it's kind of like a baseball glove if you buy a baseball glove and just start playing you know

01:47:44.320 the big game with that glove it's not going to work properly i think we all know that right

01:47:48.240 that's why you got to break the whole thing in you need to make sure you get the right grooves 0.93

01:47:51.920 and then it works really well so like i i think when it comes to sex having sex with a virgin is 0.88

01:47:56.400 not going to be better by any means than with a girl who's let's say she had an ex-boyfriend for 0.84

01:48:01.520 a little bit but then okay now she's you know she's very selective she's you know she's only

01:48:06.080 had maybe like a one or two guys something like that i think that's far better to deal with

01:48:10.560 you know assuming she has a good attitude and stuff like that than a girl who doesn't have 1.00

01:48:13.760 any of those things and it's just like hey i've never been with any guy like to me i don't know

01:48:18.880 know why guys are so obsessed with that but i i do get the the whole like reason why guys do like

01:48:24.920 virgins because you know if a girl's like 22 23 and she's very attractive and you know she has all 1.00

01:48:30.480 the choice in the world there is something validating about the fact that she chose you

01:48:34.840 over other guys right versus a girl who's like 32 33 she's been with a ton of guys you know you

01:48:41.380 kind of know she's settling at that point so i i get why a lot of guys are not necessarily looking

01:48:45.520 to cash it in with that. Cool. Cool. Great call. Doug MPA, you got any other questions for him?

01:48:52.180 That was great. Yeah. Sean's always a good call. Thanks for calling me. We really appreciate it.

01:48:56.380 Absolutely. Thanks guys. Thank you. That was great. Um, let's do, I'll fight you naked next. 1.00

01:49:07.640 I'll fight you naked. Um, what do you think of the topic? Have you dated, uh, had sex with women 0.94

01:49:13.780 that are virgins am i contradicting myself what do you think go ahead um i in my earlier years

01:49:24.300 i lost my virginity to a virgin when i was 15 and it was kind of a big deal for both of us

01:49:33.980 she turned out to be kind of a head gate and then when i was in college um i dated somebody who was

01:49:44.580 virgin um she was 18 and i was about 20 and uh she was a little more emotionally connected 0.73

01:49:52.760 seems a little bit more normal um but yeah i don't i don't know what premium on virginity

01:50:01.460 it varies so much from

01:50:03.700 girl to girl but

01:50:04.780 I don't really think it's going to tell you much

01:50:07.260 it just guarantees

01:50:09.920 that you're not going to be raising the sound

01:50:11.640 of this kid unless

01:50:12.660 you get to the tool shed while you're not looking

01:50:15.640 so

01:50:16.380 cool

01:50:17.680 well thanks

01:50:21.820 Doug MP you got any other questions for him

01:50:24.040 I don't nice and short

01:50:25.700 to the point thanks buddy we really appreciate it

01:50:27.440 thank you

01:50:32.180 okay we're gonna add dasher hello can you hear me i can hear you um so what are your thoughts

01:50:42.420 on the topic have you been with a virgin woman um if you if you disagree with anything i said

01:50:48.660 today feel free to bring it up uh what's been your experience okay so by the way thank you

01:50:56.260 it's been a long time that i wanted to come on your show okay and so what's up

01:51:01.140 it doesn't today so it's nice to talk to you um your sound is muffled and i have no idea why

01:51:09.140 because a few months ago i wanted to come on the show but it didn't work out i don't know why

01:51:16.980 i'm going to put you in the waiting room so if you want to fix it and then come back i'll try

01:51:20.500 yeah it just sounds really muff like okay so i'm gonna do ranger um ragnar

01:51:32.660 uh yes uh so i think i think you're accurate you need to get a little closer to your mic am i on

01:51:40.900 speaker okay can you hear me now uh that's better go ahead okay yeah so i think what i want the

01:51:46.580 point that i wanted to make was that i think you're accurate uh for maybe people who are a

01:51:53.060 little more um like friends with benefits but i think for a guy who wants to build a family

01:51:58.980 i think uh physiologically the idea that um you know a girl has been what's what's your term ran

01:52:06.100 through uh i think uh if she's beautiful enough he'll look past that but it's never something

01:52:12.500 that's attractive uh and i think the idea of him being the only one that's only going to ever add

01:52:19.060 to the situation um i do have a question about your forum in general if you ever discuss um

01:52:26.980 kind of the historical roots of the effects of feminism and where they come from because 0.88

01:52:33.140 i i i think a lot of you are very topical so i understand but i think if you trace it back to

01:52:39.620 you know the american revolution the french revolution and even before that it can be

01:52:43.780 actually pretty productive i know that might not be what your goal is but uh i think that would

01:52:48.980 add to the discussion and people's understanding yeah i appreciate the suggestion um but going

01:52:54.820 back to the topic so we're talking about virgins over a certain age so that generally there's

01:53:02.340 something wrong with them do you agree well it depends a lot of people a lot of girls in religious 0.98

01:53:07.220 backgrounds, like remember the Duggars? Do you remember them? One of the oldest daughters who

01:53:12.540 is the Duggar. I think she dated Tim Tebow or something. And some might say, well, maybe she

01:53:19.020 was too picky. So there's that. I mean, she could just be too picky. I think honestly, though,

01:53:25.060 I think there's going to have to become a breaking point either evolutionarily or the countries with 1.00

01:53:32.100 the court systems like uh russia and iran and they're becoming much more powerful countries

01:53:37.360 in part because of this i think that don't have a family court system that promotes feminism so much 1.00

01:53:42.920 people miss a lot of times how you could take all the propaganda and all the culture you wanted

01:53:49.100 if you think so jana duggar got married at 34 are you really believe she was a virgin really

01:53:56.460 uh i whether or not she was a virgin up until her wedding day first of all i think it's it's

01:54:02.400 possible because i think some women are um just that way i'm sorry i gotta kick you i just can't 1.00

01:54:11.180 come on this night yeah man come on come on man talk to men this naive you know 0.90

01:54:17.680 34 please god didn't we read an article didn't we on one of std fridays were like women 1.00

01:54:25.480 mormon girls are getting stds in their armpits or something like that come on you mean tell me 1.00

01:54:30.260 she hasn't blown a couple of dudes or taking it come on man are you serious you're a nice guy it's 0.98

01:54:36.960 nothing personal but there's just a point where i just think there has to be a certain 0.65

01:54:42.180 and i'm not saying you're dumb in other areas but like there has to be a certain level of

01:54:49.160 intelligence for this conversation to be worth my time of understanding yeah yeah you may be smart 0.98

01:54:55.640 in like your job or whatever but they're just if you believe a 34 year old virgin you just got

01:55:01.080 bigger problems man like come on all right oh mac hey how's it going good how are you i'm fine okay

01:55:14.200 all right so what's your thought what is your experience dating women that either are virgins

01:55:19.720 or claim to be if you disagree with something i said feel free go ahead i don't disagree with it

01:55:26.440 um i will talk about the experience of a you know of a family member of mine okay um and um he

01:55:33.240 basically asked my advice because this was a woman she was definitely you know she was a church girl 1.00

01:55:39.640 she was part of the holiness movement and she's about 33 or 33 or 34 years old and she very much

01:55:50.120 wanted to be his wife but she definitely was saying no but she was a virgin now 0.99

01:55:56.540 definitely liked her very sweet girl but she was like a four or five you know she was okay and

01:56:05.520 wait but the thing was at the end of the day because of where she was in her particular

01:56:14.120 beliefs even though he was in the church as well she was like there's nothing at all that's going

01:56:19.760 to basically happen until you know we get married and then um to kind of shorten the story

01:56:27.780 the woman that wind up beating her out already had a kid and was willing to basically give it up 1.00

01:56:36.180 and i kind of felt bad for him but the fact is you know you know when you're 34 35 years old

01:56:45.960 and you're single you're still a virgin yes you're going to be looked at as though something

01:56:51.880 is wrong something is wrong yes a very nice um i'm like woman but you know it definitely put her 1.00

01:57:00.240 into a position of you're now past 30 you're not exactly in total the best weight you're a little

01:57:08.080 bit overweight you know and you're saying nothing is going to happen until you get married and

01:57:15.840 and that didn't work out for her dang so that's a great story i know i've seen that happen before

01:57:23.920 because yeah it's too much of a risk they don't even know if you're gonna sleep with them after

01:57:29.140 you're married yeah yeah and it was you know and it was just kind of one of those things of

01:57:33.820 of um you know she was willing to go only so far because even when me and him would basically talk

01:57:41.500 and then i said well you understand her beliefs either you go all in or not and um now it was

01:57:51.340 kind of funny when the ex-girlfriend basically found out about them you know um dating now mind

01:57:58.440 you know she was cuter you know light-skinned it and body was you know similar but she was 1.00

01:58:06.260 definitely more pretty but she had a complete nasty a nasty attitude and i think the only 1.00

01:58:11.420 reason why she came back into his life and to basically have sex with him was because he was 0.99

01:58:16.720 not going to let her the virgin win as crazy as that is wow oh yeah yeah yeah it was and then 0.94

01:58:27.260 later when they you know and then of course they wound up basically getting married and she treated 1.00

01:58:31.520 him like crap of course there it is yeah she you know hey hey look she was not gonna get beat out 0.98

01:58:39.200 by a 34 35 year old virgin she was not gonna get beat out and she married him and she treated him 0.99

01:58:45.280 like crap she treated him like crap sounds about right yeah yeah great great story thanks for 0.97

01:58:54.320 calling in um you have any other thoughts on the topic you want to go say before you go well i mean 0.98

01:59:00.240 look here's the thing women need to be moving in a you know in a proactive stance of saying hey look 1.00

01:59:08.800 i you know i want to be married if you start getting past 30 32 33 and you're still a virgin 0.97

01:59:16.640 yes and particularly like in a black community you will look that side-eyed big time it's like 1.00

01:59:21.600 what the heck is wrong with her now i have a question for you real fast at what point 1.00

01:59:29.360 Because Pearl said that a lot of women who are virgins, that's their primary selling point. 1.00

01:59:37.640 Because I think a lot of those women, they get so obsessed with that selling point that they don't know what else to offer a man after, you know, besides that. 0.99

01:59:47.440 So it kind of stunts their development.

01:59:49.420 They should be focusing on what they can offer to a man, but they get so obsessed with their virginity that they don't even know what to offer a man once that's gone. 1.00

01:59:56.820 Yeah.

01:59:57.000 I mean, I mean, look, if you're sitting there saying I'm a virgin until marriage, then you need to be focusing on those things that make you a wife that basically makes your wife.

02:00:08.860 Because to me, the ones I've seen and it's only been two, about two or three ever like in my life I've ever seen.

02:00:14.520 They've always done. Well, it's the virginity, you know, as I know, you're you know, you need to be moving in such a way that you are a wife. 1.00

02:00:23.040 You're going to basically be looking to be a wife to this man. 1.00

02:00:26.460 You're going to be a benefit to this man.

02:00:28.940 You're going to be willing to have his children,

02:00:31.760 blah,

02:00:31.880 blah,

02:00:32.020 blah,

02:00:32.200 blah,

02:00:32.600 you know,

02:00:33.440 move,

02:00:33.980 you know,

02:00:34.300 move in that direction versus it's the virginity. 1.00

02:00:37.600 And that's the only thing that you got.

02:00:38.880 You haven't worked on your attitude.

02:00:40.400 You haven't worked on the way that you're at.

02:00:42.020 I mean,

02:00:42.460 I mean,

02:00:43.580 it's often just like you said,

02:00:45.460 there's a bunch of development issues that are there character.

02:00:50.000 And they're,

02:00:50.560 you know,

02:00:50.860 you know,

02:00:51.100 because they don't know how to work with a man 1.00

02:00:53.460 because they've always pushed men away 0.85

02:00:55.600 to, quote-unquote, protect

02:00:57.120 the virginity statement.

02:01:00.980 Yeah, I agree.

02:01:02.280 It's almost like Wagyu beef.

02:01:04.500 When they sell

02:01:05.360 Wagyu,

02:01:08.520 if it doesn't have that Wagyu

02:01:10.020 stamp, then it goes down in price.

02:01:12.160 Well, now you're older

02:01:13.160 and you still want to be stamped Wagyu.

02:01:16.820 Yep.

02:01:17.900 That's crazy. You're cooking.

02:01:19.560 that was great thanks for cooking today you're cooking wagyu yeah you gotta teach these virgins 1.00

02:01:26.700 how to cook yeah i mean i mean because it's just kind of crazy it's like it's like okay fine you're

02:01:32.940 a virgin but where in anything that you are doing that to where one is going to make that man get 1.00

02:01:40.280 down on one knee and say will you marry me and this is coming from a man i've been married for

02:01:46.260 29 years and when i basically mentored the men like the um young men around me i tell them all

02:01:54.380 days look for these you know you know look for these red flags because you will see the red flags

02:02:00.700 if you pay attention because women will tell on themselves if you allow them to talk enough 1.00

02:02:06.760 they will tell on themselves so agreed you better you better call it again okay

02:02:14.680 oh yeah i've called in before you know um um you know um pearl the last time we talked was about

02:02:20.960 it was about church women and you asked me um what percentage was actually white material

02:02:26.880 and i said less than 30 percent and you just kind of laughed at it

02:02:32.140 okay we'll call it anytime all right all right thanks everybody yeah callers have been great

02:02:40.800 i think the stream labs change is good because everyone's not having issues now

02:02:46.800 i don't know what's different on this from zoom but all right we got ml

02:02:54.480 hello hey how's it going i'm not going all right so what are your thoughts on the topic

02:03:02.160 um do you think that women over a certain age that are virgins have something wrong with them

02:03:07.200 or if you disagree with anything i've said today you're welcome to bring it up welcome to the show

02:03:12.280 i think for the most part yes there's something wrong uh i have dated a girl that was

02:03:20.880 a virgin in her late 20s and quite as far as i know still is at this point in time and it was due

02:03:29.180 to um i would have to say parental death and abandonment issues surrounding that

02:03:40.300 broadly speaking did you ever try to like hook up with her and would she just oh yeah yeah yeah

02:03:45.820 no like we were hanging around all the time i just even trying to get a hug out of her was 0.98

02:03:50.460 herculean at times but then uh uh eventually i moved away and i i popped back and forth uh from

02:03:58.940 the uh back to the city that uh we uh well where she lives now where i used to live and uh i still

02:04:08.140 meet up with her check in but uh it's just like i'm just like okay i like you as a friend but

02:04:15.900 my thoughts of you as a wife are long gone just too many red flags too much too too much

02:04:23.340 lack of effort and it's just like all right you're just a casual friend now

02:04:29.660 um how old is she now um she would probably be

02:04:36.620 37 to 39 right now oh wow yeah because in my experience the women that are really about it 1.00

02:04:46.680 they're done by 22. yeah i don't think she ever made that story they go to college on a mission

02:04:53.040 i mean they might divorce at 42 but they they get the kids you know they get that rig they get the

02:04:59.580 kids well she took about a decade to get a four-year degree like uh as far as i know she 1.00

02:05:07.560 didn't fail she just did went very part-time yeah no priority no urgency just hey i'm gonna

02:05:14.520 hang around my uh my little job here and live my little apartment and uh i'll knit and bake and do

02:05:21.120 other what would normally be seen as wifely tasks or wifely things traditionally uh but

02:05:28.420 not really going anywhere with it yeah cool well thank you so much for calling in that was a great

02:05:36.940 call so call in anytime okay all right it's a great show what do you think doug yeah i like it

02:05:47.180 that was a really good panel we have to have that panel on again that was great so many different

02:05:51.680 viewpoints cooking okay guys um tomorrow for fun uh because we're gonna do a panel show tomorrow

02:06:01.760 i mean i think it's gonna be a recurring wednesday thing um we're gonna start at nine

02:06:08.520 because it seems like we might be able to get um more panelists at that time i don't know if it's

02:06:16.220 going to be regularly at nine. Um, I'd rather not stay up that late, but if, if we must do it,

02:06:22.900 I will. So I, I, I love feedback from you guys. I really want you guys to be involved in the

02:06:29.040 process of, as we like develop this show. Um, and we're moving into a bigger studio soon. So

02:06:36.520 we're going to have more capabilities in the future. We really just want to make this really

02:06:41.740 good in the future so um the more feedback we can get from you guys in the comments the better

02:06:46.960 um doug mpa you want um any final thoughts today uh yeah guys this whole i think there was a time

02:06:56.820 where a woman being a virgin was valued um it's just it's just not the same man you can't 0.71

02:07:03.420 like i said there's getting to know a woman to have sex and then getting to know a woman after 0.98

02:07:09.460 The sex has happened for a relationship. 0.99

02:07:11.620 You can't wait until marriage to have sex with a woman. 1.00

02:07:14.940 You could be dooming yourself to five to seven years of torment, and then she's going to leave you anyway. 0.94

02:07:20.600 You have to have – there are comfortability levels.

02:07:23.800 There's sleeping with a woman. 0.84

02:07:25.820 That's a comfortability level.

02:07:27.600 Moving in with a woman is another one. 0.99

02:07:29.620 If you choose to get married – and let's face it, guys.

02:07:33.000 A lot of us red people are going, don't get married.

02:07:35.060 Don't have kids.

02:07:35.700 But in my lifetime, the majority of men are going to get married, right?

02:07:39.460 you choose to do so make sure you sleep with the girl first and move in with the girl first and 0.82

02:07:44.740 then meet your family if you can but this whole um virginity has no predictor of future success 1.00

02:07:52.420 just because you're her first nine times out of ten you're not going to be her last whether you 0.99

02:07:57.300 may her or not so i mean you know don't embrace the other side and bang a bunch of whores but 1.00

02:08:03.860 still like the whole version thing guys i mean come on yeah the girls are crashing out in the 0.97

02:08:10.120 chat but you guys did not um call in so i know we had two sarahs in the chat talking trash and 1.00

02:08:19.300 none of them like yeah you guys call in all right well not today though because i got i

02:08:25.300 you know it's there's one more super chat oh there's one more okay um my best friend married

02:08:31.500 to 30 year old version and found out the hard way she had mental health issues now he's getting

02:08:35.880 divorced yeah it's not really because you have to understand the best the most dateable women

02:08:41.620 have offers in every social group so i mean am i yeah so anyways guys let me know what you think

02:08:52.260 in the comments thanks so much for tuning in thanks doug mpa um for coming as usual um any

02:08:58.260 final thoughts you want to say before i close out the show no i like this stream yard thing a lot

02:09:03.640 better than zoom yeah so much better all right thanks doug mpa um all right guys thanks for

02:09:10.800 watching i love you guys um and i'm telling you the next few months this this show is gonna be

02:09:18.560 one of the biggest shows on youtube again so i were monetized we've been kind of playing it safe

02:09:24.000 for a few months now we can start reinvesting in the channel we can start getting the documentary

02:09:28.800 um i'm probably going to pick a team pretty soon for that but it's either i have to stay

02:09:36.380 monetized another six months or we get enough donations i hate having to prolong it but

02:09:41.620 yeah so anyways guys like the video subscribe and i'll see you next time bye

Pearl - August 20, 2025

Do Women That Are Virgins Over 25 Have Something Wrong with Them？？ (Call-In Show) ｜ Pearl Daily

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