01:28:34.040and then when I was I don't know how to say I was open enough to to talk to girls and be open with
01:28:45.080girls I was already older and at the time you know in high school I dated a couple of girls
01:28:52.900but it was the same thing it was just like a couple of weeks and then it's just drama here
01:28:57.380drama there and I was I would be like no I'm not for that and so I would be like okay we can't be
01:29:03.440together and then eventually we start i started talking to my wife on facebook again after 10
01:29:09.240years went by and it clicked because she was sharing with me views and beliefs that she had
01:29:16.380that i also had and i was like you know this is amazing she's a virgin i'm a virgin she's waiting
01:29:23.420she's focused on one thing i'm focused on another thing and also because we're we're christians we
01:29:29.060We, you know, I don't want to talk too much about the Bible and Christianity, but we truly believe when scripture says, you know, it's good for it's good for you to wait.
01:29:40.500And by waiting, you become one with that person.
01:30:17.700it's just they always come from another country always like
01:30:24.500and then uh you know i first up guys married i don't like you know i don't like having discussions
01:30:32.100like this with with married people you know the guy has a wife he seems like he's winning and
01:30:37.420happy and stuff once again people like that they think that you're questioning the integrity of
01:30:42.800their wife and maybe he made a bad decision that's not it it's just you know you just don't know
01:30:47.240yeah well it's just i'm not in you know they could have a happy marriage i don't
01:30:52.660maybe she was but it's just very convenient that he wasn't around for 10 years you know like i'm
01:30:59.940like that's all you have to say is i'm a virgin and then guys okay go ahead next one all right
01:31:07.300we have sarah is coming up she is in the audacity chat she is joining us on the call what's going
01:31:13.220on not much hey sarah um i think i hear the oh it stopped yes i'm gonna put out on mute here
01:31:21.860sorry there's that that that delay there how are you i'm good how are you i'm good
01:31:31.060so figured as a a mom i would call in today and great yeah okay okay give me your give
01:31:37.140me your thoughts on the topic um so are you still married i am 27 years cool so and was when 27
01:31:45.940years ago was were people waiting to have sex back then was it normal um no so they would say
01:31:54.420i know you're honest virtuous and all of that but no um i'll be honest my husband had a daughter
01:32:01.220and you know i wasn't exactly lily white but um yeah we got married and we've stayed dedicated
01:32:08.420to each other for 27 years through you know all the ups and the downs and the crazy and the dry
01:32:14.500in the deserts and uh we've somehow managed to get two sons who know are adults and two little
01:32:20.740girls that are in their teens and it's it's an interesting i guess viewpoint because we've seen
01:32:27.460what all my sons have been through my younger one just got through a divorce and met a girl
01:32:32.980six months ago and they're expecting a baby oh wow and you know and then there's my older son
01:32:40.900he's been through just horrible horrible relationships and he's just he doesn't
01:32:46.260believe in love right now but we try to encourage him to have faith that that there is that one
01:32:52.100person out there that's just he's going to know kind of like when his dad walked into my life and
01:32:57.220i walked into his i think i would have i would have less faith actually well um i am a little
01:33:06.260afraid for my girls question though uh real fast what how did your sons end up having such terrible
01:33:14.820situations with women did they fall into like the stereotypical happy wife happy life
01:33:20.260men are supposed to bow down to women guard western garbage what happened
01:33:27.060i'll be honest i've i've kind of spoiled them and so they meet girls and they're very open
01:33:35.300in an honest, like, Hey, I want somebody that I get to take care of. I want somebody who's going
01:33:41.160to be there for me. I'd really like it if you stayed home, you know, very, very conservative
01:33:46.240use. And the girls are like, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I want. And that's never what they
01:33:50.940want. Um, my son who got married, she wanted children and, you know, he was like, let's wait.
01:33:59.500and in the end she made him out to be just a monster and come to find out all she wanted was
01:34:10.720children so that she could leave and now now she's you know by herself and out doing her little thing
01:34:17.540and he's expecting the baby that he's always wanted with somebody that just thinks that he
01:34:22.760you know is the moon and the sun and she's gotta be raging i bet she's so pissed that makes it
01:34:30.920better oh yeah she's she's very match this this lady that he's with now does have two children
01:34:37.700from a previous marriage and she saw them out having breakfast like a normal family
01:34:44.380and i guess she called him and was like i'm sorry i wish that i wouldn't have done what i did and
01:34:49.160He's like, um, I've moved on and we're getting, he's bought a house and he's bought cars and he's
01:34:55.940living his life and he's moved on. But I am scared for my girls because of the culture and they are
01:35:05.700homeschooled and we've kind of allowed them, I guess their area to come to terms with, you know,
01:35:12.340being 12 and 14 years old with, you know, the girls out there doing their thing and the boys
01:35:17.040out there doing their thing. And, um, I do worry about the future of it. If they're going to meet
01:35:22.300somebody that's going to treat them nice and, and be good to them. And I guess, traditional,
01:35:28.680they're not above working, but, um, they really do want to be a traditional person that,
01:35:36.700you know, is loving and nurturing and caring and has children and has a good life.
01:35:43.540Do you have anyone? Do you have anyone around there in mind? Like any sons that are because I only see that like just my thought process. I don't have kids, obviously. So, you know, you're in the field, you know, that more than I do. But my thought process is you really are only going to get that if the families help, because if they do it on their own, it's Instagram and dating apps, or I think they use Snapchat, the teens now, whatever.
01:36:11.480we don't have any of that they don't even have a phone yeah but but at some point right like you
01:36:16.600can you can you can prolong it but they'll turn 18 and they'll get it you know yeah right and you
01:36:22.200gotta you you gotta ease them into social media because if if you homeschool without a phone all
01:36:28.920the way through high school age and they go off to college they're cooked yeah we are we are looking
01:36:34.200for the 14 year old to get a phone but they've watched what their brothers have gone through
01:36:39.320and my husband is an extremely conservative guy very much of hey um i'm the guy and you're gonna
01:36:49.880listen and if i tell you that you're not going to do this then you're not going to do it and
01:36:54.200they've listened and and heard all of the stories that we've tried to tell them of look this has
01:37:00.520happened to your brothers this has happened to this person and they're like oh okay and i don't
01:37:06.360think that a lot of parents have that of because you know the atmosphere is just different with
01:37:13.800peers so are your daughters do they want to get married and have kids young i don't know um you
01:37:22.600need to ask them they do want they do want to have children at a young age but they're also
01:37:29.400not above working but it's not the kind of work that they want to go out and get you know the
01:37:35.480cars and the colleges and things like that they want to you know be babysitters and care for
01:37:41.160children and be bakers and do music so right now i know that they're very sheltered but just make
01:37:51.960sure to watch because yeah women that girls that want to get married they don't use terms like
01:37:59.480partner right if they start using the word partner cooked honestly if they start talking about going
01:38:07.800to like law school or something like that or getting some kind of degree that nobody cares
01:38:12.840about or they want to start taking out student loans just make sure you you listen to their
01:38:17.720words because their words will become actions you know what i'm saying right one of them is actually
01:38:22.200mentioned we we are catholic and one of they both just made their confirmation and when asked hey
01:38:30.040have you ever thought about going into becoming a nun and one of them was like yeah i've actually
01:38:34.920thought about it but i don't think that that's where i'm going i don't i don't know where i'm
01:38:39.240going but i don't think that's where i'm going but it's not ruled out so we just kind of allow them
01:38:45.160to have kind of their own comfort level when they ask questions, we tell them. My older one has been
01:38:52.540out on a date that I, you know, hung out with. And I think that annoyed the boy a little bit more
01:38:57.540than it annoyed my daughter because he couldn't put moves on my daughter and because I was standing
01:39:02.360there. But I think that for my girls and for my boys, I encourage if they're from a healthy family
01:39:13.420of you know a dad that is definitely the head of the household and a mom that supports that husband
01:39:18.940being the head of the household and children that respect both of their parents and the guidelines
01:39:23.740that the parents have tried to put forth for them that those are the kind of people that usually
01:39:31.100tend to want a good relationship so that's what that's what we're aiming to to get them towards
01:39:38.780so what about what you've seen in the past like 27 years have you seen like do you know
01:39:44.380anybody that's waited till marriage and did it work out for them um i knew one person that
01:39:51.820waited till marriage and she was very much like my former daughter-in-law who wanted kids so much
01:39:59.020and that was her focus is kids kids kids and it was not on her husband who eventually just kind
01:40:05.420of said okay i don't want anything to do with either one of you because i feel like an outsider
01:40:10.620and that damaged both of them very deeply of you know she had this child and the child i i don't
01:40:18.860know what happened but he just kind of checked out okay so second then so she ended up you know
01:40:26.060because i always thought that the people that waited would have so much better results and as
01:40:30.300i got just me personally as i got older it just wasn't what i saw i wish i wish it was yeah yeah
01:40:37.420but i wish that i had not had the baggage that i did when i met my husband and he wishes that he
01:40:43.900didn't you know go through the relationship that resulted in his daughter but we don't regret
01:40:50.700that we were who we were when we met we just wanted to do better than we had been doing
01:40:55.900yeah well it's like we knew instantly hey i'm gonna marry you yeah well if you're too afraid
01:41:01.580to like get in the game then you'll never do you know what i mean it's most people don't find
01:41:06.380anyone if they don't date and a lot of times i find the people waiting especially if they're
01:41:11.340older they're just checking out a dating they're like not doing it yeah i had sworn off men i was
01:41:16.940like i'm not dating anybody i'm not doing anything would you recommend your daughters wait till
01:41:21.980marriage if i i hope that for them i hope that they can have that one person and i don't know
01:41:34.640if it's so much waiting for marriage it's it's waiting for that person that you are willing to
01:41:40.860spend the rest of your life with and that you don't mind going through hard times with and
01:41:48.020you're willing to fight for and you're willing to argue with and argue over as my husband put it the
01:41:55.500other day and he goes I knew I loved you when I was willing to go to jail for you
01:41:58.780he's like I didn't care if you were gonna go throw down with your mom or you're gonna throw
01:42:07.800down with the guy down the street I was willing to go to jail for you yeah well you know I I would
01:42:14.800recommend trying to at least put your daughters in situations with guys her age or maybe they're
01:42:21.840a little young now but when they're like two three years because I don't see the married the the
01:42:28.640people I've seen that got that their parents like waited or that waited and it worked out or at
01:42:34.880least married young um you know what's smart and I didn't clock this in high school can they work
01:42:42.020at like golf carts or golf girls over the summer because a lot of my friends met their husbands by
01:42:48.260doing that right yeah in washington state if you work at a nice coffee stand yeah yeah in a nice
01:42:56.120in like an upscale neighborhood come on now we live in branson's right now so there are so many
01:43:03.020places here that they could be out and about but they also do a lot of things through church we go
01:43:08.580out a lot um there's not a day that my 14 year old is going oh mom that guy is cute i'm like uh-huh
01:43:15.620i know i see you and then you know i see the boy across the thing going i see you too okay she's
01:43:22.500too young for you mr 16 year old but um they definitely are starting to kind of blossom into
01:43:30.020yeah we are going to have to kind of let them start dating at 16 we can't hold them back but
01:43:35.060But we're also not pushing them that I see a lot of kids their age being pushed into situations where they're like going, OK, I don't know how I feel or I'm not ready for this yet.
01:43:47.160And that's what I meant is, you know, not everybody's ready for PG-14, you know, relationships at 13 or 14.
01:43:57.240Some of them would be like, well, I'm ready now and I'm going on 15.
02:08:33.900that's why you your audio was just too bad sorry okay sean i tried to bring you up before
02:08:42.000i'll bring you up again so you better sean are you there uh yeah i'm here can you hear me hey
02:08:50.500hey sean how's it going it's going well so what are your thoughts on the topic do you know anybody
02:08:56.960that waited till marriage and how did it work out uh yeah i mean the only ones that i know who waited
02:09:04.080till marriage were usually like a christian background but they came from like an eastern
02:09:07.920culture that is very like low percentage demographics here in the u.s so it's a little
02:09:13.120bit harder to meet people and the ones that i know that got married they got married in their 30s to
02:09:17.600guys who they didn't really find that attractive but maybe financially are where they want them to
02:09:22.880to be so it is kind of a beta sort of relationship that they kind of have with them but those sorts
02:09:29.640of marriages are more pragmatic and more value exchanges than they are about love so if that's
02:09:35.120your expectation for a marriage then i guess it worked out well uh but if you're looking for more
02:09:40.220of the eurocentric sort of love-based marriage uh no i've literally never seen that okay um
02:09:48.880and are they still married uh yeah i mean they're still married i mean the cultural background that
02:09:55.780these folks come from like basically everyone stays married uh but they kind of stay miserably
02:10:00.560married if that makes sense so like you know 20 years into that marriage it's no different from
02:10:03.960a love-based marriage and how long the couples are you thinking of how long have they been married
02:10:08.860uh so far they've been married for at least they're around my age so they've been married
02:10:14.060for about three years so not that long okay so we'll see uh yeah um yeah i mean you get a better
02:10:20.660idea like it's like i kind of put 10 20 so like 10 maybe 20 then it's like i think if you make
02:10:28.120it to 20 you're most likely going to make it it's either 20 or 25 go ahead sorry yeah i was gonna
02:10:33.640say like the cultural family background that they come from it's more of a collectivist mindset so
02:10:37.320marriage is not really about your personal happiness it's about more family ties and
02:10:41.000things like that. So it's more of a shame-based culture, a lot of social stigma. So everyone in
02:10:45.240your family's married. So like, if you're the first one to break that, it looks really bad.
02:10:49.420And you're going to be sort of ostracized from your community. So more than likely,
02:10:53.480they will stay together. You know, everyone in their families are all, you know, continuously
02:10:57.800married. But it's not necessarily like a very happy, loving marriage, right? It's just marriage
02:11:03.640in general, right? So that's really what you kind of see. But yeah, sort of, you know, where I have
02:11:10.620seen like other folks who, I guess, you know, more to the topic of virginity specifically,
02:11:15.340like I've seen the smart girls that I've seen like on the Christian side, they get married young
02:11:19.360and they leverage their capital as a young, fertile virgin to seek a, you know, a very
02:11:25.520financially rewarding guy. So to speak, like I knew this one girl at my office, she would go
02:11:30.400every single lunch period to the local hospital and sit down in their cafeteria, hoping to meet
02:11:35.720a surgeon and eventually she came back six months later married to a not so attractive looking guy
02:11:41.400but he made a lot of money uh so like the smart ones know to capitalize their beauty and youth
02:11:46.760and fertility when they're young uh but whenever like i would meet girls that are like phds that
02:11:52.360are in their late 20s that are virgins usually they're like trying to use it as a kind of like
02:11:58.440brokering a relationship on like sort of terms that they want they think it's like a some sort
02:12:03.640of valuable power that they have which i just find ridiculous like if you're past 25 and you're still
02:12:09.240a virgin to your point pearl like there's something usually wrong with you like either
02:12:13.160you're sexually repressed in a very negative way or you know you're trying to get a one-up on a guy
02:12:19.800by saying hey i'm a virgin by the way so i'm somehow better than these other girls which is
02:12:23.960in my opinion it's ridiculous i'd say it's time to start i'd say it's time to start you know
02:12:28.680know i just i'll get you further than that car like after 25 it's time ladies it's time for
02:12:35.920your whole phase it's time to start fucking on the first date i mean i didn't say with everybody
02:12:43.460but you know i gotta if she's a virgin or late 20s there's no way she won't take some l's so
02:12:48.760it's just gonna yeah go ahead i mean yeah i was gonna say to be honest i don't think most guys
02:12:53.820like in today's day and age necessarily care if the girls are virgin i think they just care if
02:12:58.340girl is very selective in who they will be with and very long-term minded so if they're screwing
02:13:04.820losers and f boys i think that really kind of ticks off a lot of guys to be like number 10 or
02:13:09.700number 15 but if they've only like you know been with let's say two three guys and these were like
02:13:15.140hard-working guys but for whatever reason it didn't work out with them but they are long-term
02:13:20.900minded like these are long-term relationships not situationships not friends with benefits
02:13:25.700or things like that i don't think most guys care but usually the girls that guys are running into
02:13:30.820these days are doing a lot of nonsense and running it up until 30. yeah but if she's hot if she's a
02:13:36.180mid if she's hot like she might have a hundred percent relationship rate but like because that's
02:13:42.260another way they'll get you guys is they like expand how long they dated somebody
02:13:48.500that's true and they don't tell you about the l like if you're a mid like you're gonna take some
02:13:53.060else like you know what i mean like if you're beautiful then you won't but yeah and or you'll
02:13:58.820take longer they can take l's and they can always maneuver it because women will all they can always
02:14:06.420tell the female friendly version of any l where they're that or just pretend it didn't exist in
02:14:12.340the same story like if a girl downloads tinder and even if she wants a relationship you know
02:14:18.660he sleeps with a guy a few times he doesn't call her back she could just pretend it didn't happen
02:14:23.060yeah or she can call him a narcissist that women come up but that's that's why some of the these
02:14:32.660churches just leave these women like i'm like they're never if they're not super hot that
02:14:38.520strategy is not gonna work i mean hot girls can get away with fucking murder but that's true but
02:14:44.240i would say it's more of an economic situation given that like most of the country's kind of
02:14:48.520overweight or obese or not really taking care of themselves it's almost like the more attractive
02:14:53.220girls know they have more power they can get away with more shit oh yeah that wouldn't be tolerated
02:14:58.360in countries that have a you know normal bmi that you'll see on the other side of the world right
02:15:02.760whether it's in europe or asia etc so it's almost like it's giving a lot of the more attractive
02:15:09.660girls way more leverage and if you're a guy and you work really hard all your life trying to settle
02:15:14.140for a below average girl an overweight girl it's like a total middle finger to you for like all
02:15:18.220your hard work so i don't fault a lot of guys for going for kind of the hot girls who maybe you know
02:15:23.840they've kind of run the field a little bit because like if you are going to be with one girl presumably
02:15:28.320for the rest of your life probably not but for whatever period of time at last you know you you
02:15:32.940want an attractive girl for all the hard work you've done so i don't necessarily blame those
02:15:36.700guys i don't either if i was a guy i would just go for the hottest girl i'm hypergamous so i would
02:15:41.780just go for the hottest girl possible if i was a guy because she's gonna leave the mids are leaving
02:15:47.000too you might as well just get a hot chick that's true you know i've seen a lot of like quote-unquote
02:15:52.820loyal girls that are not necessarily the most active they're like out of their marriages now
02:15:56.820that they've had their two kids they're seven years in uh so like if you are going to get
02:16:00.780divorced you might as well you know rent the ferrari and not the corolla right if that makes
02:16:06.300sense plus plus you can just show you can have a public picture of your ex that was really hot and
02:16:12.160then all the new then you can get hotter girls that is true like girls will see like your
02:16:17.560instagram or your fast photos and if they view like that girl as much hotter than like what they
02:16:22.620are like that'll instantly make them message you a lot more compared to like if you have like a 300
02:16:27.860pound ex-girlfriend like you're not going to get anything yeah totally cool well thanks for calling
02:16:33.320in absolutely thanks guys have a good one okay next up brad has been waiting for a while he's
02:16:42.840always a good call let's like the video subscribe if you haven't already share the video and thank
02:16:48.520you for all the super chats we really appreciate it you guys have been super chatting a whole lot
02:16:53.320and all the super chats are appreciated brad are you there yes i am can you hear me brad are you um
02:17:00.840um, I use your name for like one of the Chad archetypes. Yeah, I know. And when I was coming
02:17:10.180up in my early years, uh, I was kind of a Brad in, in training, so to speak. I mean, I never,
02:17:16.520I, if you ask if I know anybody who held out, uh, I was a virgin until I was 21 and I lost my
02:17:25.200virginity to the woman I married. And that was over 40 years ago. So yeah, I know somebody.
02:17:32.980Well, it worked out. I talked to you last week. I'm the guy that was married for 36 years. My
02:17:38.760wife kicked me to the curb because she felt she could do better on her own after I provided what
02:17:47.480I could up until that time. So I didn't know that was going to end up that way. And I've learned a
02:17:54.620lot about women's thinking from listening to people like you and a number of other people
02:18:00.400who've got podcasts on YouTube about the way women think. And it has revealed a lot. But
02:18:09.460as far as this not waiting till marriage, I've seen in my years, a big difference between say
02:18:17.960the 60s and 70s and what the attitudes were. I had a friend in high school that he was kind of
02:18:26.000like the real person that you'd call a Chad or a Brad or a Tyrone. I mean, he'd see a girl and
02:18:32.280he was smooth. He knew what would give him an opportunity to get them alone and then he'd make
02:18:39.420a move on them. And there was still that on the girl's side of it, that feeling that she needed
02:18:45.440to express a certain amount of reluctance um no i don't uh not now that kind of thing which
02:18:51.600i don't think you really see that much yeah i hear you laughing but you know i mean it's true
02:18:58.240right yeah i mean with girls brag you see them on on i don't watch tick tock except for what shows
02:19:04.160up from tick tock on youtube but you see them bragging in street interviews about you know
02:19:08.880all the guys they've been with just since yesterday and oh my goodness i mean we used
02:19:14.320to get called down by girls in high school uh just because our language was common oh that's common
02:19:21.440you know garage talk gutter talk sex talk you know just oh that's just so nasty it's a whole
02:19:27.280different world now um i mean i still from a moral perspective um i don't see where you know if i set
02:19:36.480religion aside i'm not so sure that i see the point about you know sleeping with with girls
02:19:42.160sleeping with women um as as a like a preliminary step as if that somehow gave you an edge because
02:19:48.800i think we've admitted that there's such a level of deception when you're engaging with a woman
02:19:55.840what she pretends to be that whether it's the speech or her actions and she pretends to be this
02:20:01.360person or whether she sleeps with you makes you think i'm going to be getting great sex
02:20:06.480um there's no guarantee that you're actually getting reality and i can't complain because
02:20:11.680Even though I was a virgin, my wife was not.
02:20:14.620And I knew she wasn't because I knew she'd been living with a guy at his family's home as his live-in girlfriend and that they were intimate before we got together.
02:20:26.340But I did not know how much of a party girl she was secretly behind the scenes, you know, sneaking off during classes to go meet up with a guy and get it on at his parents' place while they were at work.
02:20:40.600and things like that until after we'd been married for years and the sex was fine.
02:20:45.100I got plenty of it for more than three decades and I never had any complaints about the quality.
02:20:51.640So, you know, this idea of everything's individual, but the idea that you got to test drive the car
02:20:57.920and on all that, I think the problem is the flip side of the coin doesn't necessarily get you
02:21:02.600anything or guarantee anything any better. You know, some of it's generational. I realized I'm
02:21:08.980an old fart. I mean, I'm one of the two guys in the balcony in the Muppets. I don't know if you
02:21:13.240guys are familiar with those. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Doug, you're a little closer
02:21:18.280to me. What did they say when the church burned down? Holy smokes. Remember those two guys?
02:21:24.780Yeah, the two old cranky old guys in the Muppets and they're up in the balcony and they're always
02:21:29.620heckling, you know, whatever's going on. And I've turned into one of those old heckling guys.
02:21:34.800but i mean i'm thankful to a degree that i'm not my kids age in their 30s or or my son's about to
02:21:42.400turn 40 next year um and in a position to where you know they're trying to make a decision as far
02:21:47.680as wait or don't wait or do i sleep with this girl or don't i sleep with this girl we were
02:21:52.020primarily worried back in the day about stds and about unwanted pregnancies because you got to
02:21:58.620realize nobody would bat an eye now if a young guy walks into a store goes over to walmart to the
02:22:03.660section and buys themselves some condoms or whatever. But back in the day, we're talking
02:22:08.36040, 50 years ago, that was a whole different story. And you didn't have like Amazon and places
02:22:13.560where you could order it and have it mailed to you and nobody knew. Sorry? No, I said like
02:22:20.400privately. Yeah, I was just, yeah. Yeah. You don't have, you didn't have the privacy back then.
02:22:25.200And it was a whole nother thing. It's like I said, even the girls, if you just started talking
02:22:29.240something that had innuendo or a double entendre, you know, the polite words for sex talk, they
02:22:36.040were like, oh, God, you're always so common.
02:22:47.500I had a girl in my English class when I was in my senior year of high school, and I think
02:22:52.940she wound up like five months or so along before she then finally disappeared.
02:22:59.240but it was like you know it was like a school scandal i mean and i'm not in the 50s so we're
02:23:03.800not talking about leave it to beaverville but even in the 70s in spite of the sexual revolution and
02:23:08.520the summer of 69 and the year the summer free love and and everything else it's still it was
02:23:15.320it's this is a very different world and i think unless you're an old fart like me and you've
02:23:20.200physically seen the difference the way things are are all anybody's ever known so it seems normal
02:23:26.600out of the couples you know back then are how old are you if you don't mind me asking um i will say
02:23:33.000i'm in my early to mid 60s do you know any couples that are still married well my folks have been
02:23:39.880married they're in their 80s sorry i meant from your like graduating class from my graduating
02:23:45.320class yeah i i actually do um in fact um every once in a while i still have some connections
02:23:51.160with some of them my high school graduating class actually linked up a number of people
02:23:55.720who linked up with other people who connected other people as suggested friends on facebook
02:24:00.760and so i still see regularly what's going on with a lot of my classmates and i'm amazed that i know
02:24:06.840of at least two couples that were like the hot couples dating in high school and they're still
02:24:12.600married oh they're and they post stuff of activities they do together and everything
02:24:16.680cool yeah i mean it kind of it's women that get the chads and their social group i've kind of seen
02:24:23.240like i i that's just that i've noticed they stay married longer yeah i was a romantic um i had
02:24:31.080opportunities to you know to to get with and to smash and i turned them down some and you know
02:24:38.040it wasn't that they were weren't attractive it's just you know to me my thinking back in the day
02:24:44.440was if they're that available for that um you know i first of all i don't want to get a girl pregnant
02:24:50.680Because there were too many potential stories of people who knew people were, you know, the girl got pregnant and they had to get married because of the baby and then they couldn't stand each other.
02:25:00.340And I didn't want to wind up in that situation.
02:25:02.660And then the other thing was the concern that, you know, she's if she's going to have sex with you, don't think you're so special that you're you're the only one she's willing to have sex with or is having sex with.
02:25:15.420Yeah. So, you know, while I was in high school and in my very early 20s, before I got married, my concern was if she was too flirty and too hinted too much at the idea, hey, I'll sleep with you.
02:25:28.940I was like, no, I don't want that. I want a relationship. So I really wanted to date somebody and have a relationship first.
02:25:34.800So I wound up with my basically my childhood sweetheart. We met when I was 13 and she was 11 and we continued to kind of connect off and on through the years.
02:25:46.200And as adults, I saw her and met her again, and we had a conversation going.