Pearl - July 08, 2025


Don't Wait Until Marriage (Call-In Show) | Pearl Daily


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00:00:00.160 This headline from The Hill, it caught my eye.
00:00:02.940 Most young men are single, most young women are not.
00:00:05.960 Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America for the last 40 years.
00:00:10.660 It's a different world now, like we don't need men the way that they used to.
00:00:13.700 Nobody needs men!
00:00:14.940 The future is female.
00:00:18.000 Men and women are drifting further apart, and society is crumbling because of it.
00:00:24.520 A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.
00:00:27.680 You've kind of got the trad con versus red pill thing.
00:00:30.480 This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.
00:00:34.040 You need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.
00:00:38.140 Marriage is a bond and it's a sacred bond.
00:00:40.760 It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.
00:00:43.780 Now many of the red pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.
00:00:48.580 It's Hannah Pearl Davis or just pearly things.
00:00:52.400 One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.
00:00:55.860 She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.
00:00:58.920 Because if me and you were in a business contract,
00:01:01.120 you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.
00:01:04.080 Gee, what could go wrong there?
00:01:06.220 74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.
00:01:09.820 Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.
00:01:12.700 Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.
00:01:15.380 I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.
00:01:20.320 Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.
00:01:23.540 You need no evidence.
00:01:24.380 When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for
00:01:28.260 and you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.
00:01:31.720 I interviewed them on the other side.
00:01:34.260 I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.
00:01:36.580 How much did you spend trying to get him back?
00:01:38.700 The legal fees alone was about $200,000.
00:01:41.060 Before you know it, you're homeless. You're literally just thrown out onto the street.
00:01:44.400 We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.
00:01:46.940 Wives are taught to leave their husbands and then daughters grow up without their fathers.
00:01:51.080 Family is the foundation of society.
00:01:52.700 Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.
00:01:56.000 A lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole of happiness, endless happiness.
00:02:00.320 Feminism's biggest failure is it lies to women.
00:02:02.260 We tell women to date as many guys as possible.
00:02:04.100 We tell them to put off family into marriage.
00:02:05.880 You are allowed to leave your perfect husband.
00:02:08.620 You are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend.
00:02:13.040 Oh, freeze your eggs, have an abortion.
00:02:14.840 What? You're evil.
00:02:16.080 I don't think there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail.
00:02:19.960 Like if you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic,
00:02:24.060 naturally the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail anyway.
00:02:26.800 It's self-sabotage.
00:02:27.720 And that's the thing, like women are so willing to leave marriages because they're not happy.
00:02:31.460 This is not about happiness.
00:02:32.980 The most important thing is the children.
00:02:35.640 And the problem is we have a modern society where it's me, me, me, my feelings,
00:02:40.080 leave when I feel like it, instead of doing what's best for the kids.
00:02:44.160 This myth that we live in an age of male privilege, where's my male privilege?
00:02:47.700 They think, well, men have all the rights, they have all the power.
00:02:50.620 Privileged, patriarchal system that we have.
00:02:53.000 Why doesn't our society care about men's rights?
00:02:55.640 I have no friends, no wife, and no social life.
00:02:58.860 Men are alone in this situation.
00:03:00.780 Men are homeless.
00:03:01.740 Men are thinking about eating guns.
00:03:03.500 I've seen so many men on the brink of suicide, and they didn't do anything wrong.
00:03:07.940 How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?
00:03:13.340 The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.
00:03:16.760 women are helplessly dependent upon men the so-called deaths of despair from suicide overdose
00:03:22.900 to alcohol three times higher among men than among women culture is telling men you are no good you
00:03:28.900 got to get your act together i think men have failed themselves what kind of a man are you
00:03:32.520 what kind of a woman are you going to attract if men are in trouble so are women everybody knows
00:03:38.020 this is a huge problem but nobody wants to admit it every single woman at the table said they wanted
00:03:43.160 500k, 300k, 300k, 200k.
00:03:45.940 Am I crazy?
00:03:46.640 Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.
00:03:48.940 If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them.
00:03:52.520 So you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?
00:03:56.400 Women.
00:03:57.880 I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.
00:04:00.040 I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.
00:04:02.300 I'm over it.
00:04:03.460 When is it going to be my turn?
00:04:04.760 Where are we meeting the men that don't stop?
00:04:06.520 I can't keep having these same conversations.
00:04:09.280 The only simp here is you, Pearl.
00:04:10.600 You simp for men.
00:04:11.180 No, I think you simp for women.
00:04:12.540 she's a provocateur she says stupid stuff but pearl is right about this it's already happening
00:04:17.100 it's just not out in the open yet now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairy tale
00:04:20.940 ending because men don't want a wife and women can't find a husband the future if everybody
00:04:26.060 follows your path is there is no future we go into population decline and our economy goes into
00:04:31.340 decline civilization will crumble the american story does not end well this is an existential
00:04:37.980 crisis failing young men. What is going on people? Welcome to another episode of Pearl
00:04:50.900 Daily. Thank you guys all for tuning in. As you guys know, we are, well, we are formally
00:04:56.560 demonetized on this channel. I worked for a year and a half for free and that really put a wrench
00:05:02.160 in this divorce documentary. So we're trying to raise a hundred K for it. I do have a million
00:05:06.360 on the GoFundMe because, you know, shooters are going to shoot. But we are trying to raise 100K
00:05:11.580 and we are currently on $31,767. So people do not want this documentary to come out. They have
00:05:21.340 kicked me off of seven TikTok accounts, three Instagram and demonetize me on YouTube, all
00:05:27.520 because I talk about men's issues. So if you want, donate. The link's in the description.
00:05:32.940 okay so today we're talking about waiting till marriage according to statistics only five percent
00:05:41.980 of women are virgins on their wedding nights and by the way guys have those five percent they don't
00:05:46.780 say what percent of the virgins are morbidly obese all right if you're a virgin wait um
00:05:53.160 doug mpa can do we have the your virginity doesn't count video on the website if we do can you text
00:06:00.780 me it because that was a great video i made you know because really your virginity doesn't count
00:06:05.420 if you're ugly or fat um because you're really not bringing the value you know purity only counts
00:06:10.860 if you're hot you know like are you guys really is this like if a woman's 60 and a virgin do you
00:06:17.740 care no you want the ran through 20 year old all right so that's down from 21 in the 1970s so even
00:06:27.900 in the 70s, this was not the majority. Tradcons are still trying to push the concept of waiting
00:06:33.520 until you are married to have sex. But in 2025, that's unrealistic. And I would go as so far as
00:06:40.120 to say it's dumb. It might be idealistic, but there's a difference between idealistic and
00:06:45.580 realistic. Men and women are having sex. It's the undeniable reality as a man. If you are waiting
00:06:51.220 until sex to have married to as a man if you are waiting to have sex until you're married
00:06:59.060 the longer you wait the more likely it is that you are going to lose your virginity to a woman
00:07:03.780 that's already been dug out by tyrone chad say it in the chat glock tavius gavin the starving
00:07:10.940 musician tyrone the more likely um you're going to be weird when it comes to women too that's the
00:07:19.340 other issue. You wait too long. Now you have zero flirting skills. Women are only messing with the
00:07:27.040 charming men now or the jacked ones, unfortunately. It's only the ones that give us the tingle. So
00:07:33.460 the longer you hold out on entering the real dating marketplace like a normal person,
00:07:38.000 the more weird men and women will be. Now, I don't say that you have to sleep with everybody,
00:07:43.940 But unfortunately, and I don't say this with like a happy, a happy tone, I don't think it's working in 2025.
00:07:50.920 I do not see it. I do not see the people waiting till marriage winning.
00:07:56.700 And this is something I always thought, to be honest, I thought the key was just people should wait till they're married.
00:08:03.740 But the challenge I got to, I'm going to riff a little bit.
00:08:08.360 the challenge I got to was that if waiting till marriage produced these happy marriages in the
00:08:14.280 past, why were women so willing to opt out the first chance they could? And it goes back to
00:08:21.600 women biologically do not want to be saddled down with a beta. And if they view the person that
00:08:27.700 they're with as a beta, um, it doesn't matter if it was a hundred years ago, they don't want to do
00:08:33.460 it. All right. So waiting means the man is kind of cucked because basically you get to pay a higher
00:08:41.620 price for something that Chad Tyrone and Glock Tavius got for free. The other, the reason it kind
00:08:50.160 of screws women is, you know, there's, I've never seen a pastor give an honest presentation
00:08:58.500 on how long a guy is going to wait is based on how hot you are ladies it really is men are going
00:09:05.060 to wait for marriage like if you're because again women we like don't see average men we don't and
00:09:10.860 i don't say this like that's the way it should be right um and you could tell a woman to date on her
00:09:16.360 level but can we just be real here women aren't going to do that so i'm not it's like i'm not
00:09:21.780 going to say have this miracle happen and expect it to happen so if women always go for chads
00:09:27.900 chads are not going to wait especially not for a mid they might wait for someone that's beautiful
00:09:33.880 but you know if you're a mid you know i'd really say a gluck gluck's got to be a selling point
00:09:39.940 um the longer you wait the weirder you're going to be and nothing as worse than a man or a woman
00:09:46.580 who's really weird and dating now i hear the guys say i don't mind a weird woman
00:09:52.100 but i don't actually i'm thinking a lolo jones she was so weird that's who i'm thinking she
00:09:59.500 was beautiful back in the day but if you listen to her interviews it's not cute it's not like
00:10:03.720 weird in a cute way all right um so if you're a woman the longer you wait the more it shows that
00:10:11.040 you're socially awkward and that there's something wrong with you emotionally or mentally now you
00:10:16.120 might be saying, Pearl, you should be pushing for women to stay virgins. But when marriage is at 30
00:10:23.360 now, have you ever met a woman that's 30 and a virgin? There are so many red flags about these
00:10:31.440 type of women. I'm not talking about a 20 year old virgin, but people are not getting married at
00:10:35.880 20. They're getting married at 30. And if you can get married when you are young, then waiting isn't
00:10:43.260 a problem but staying single through your 20s and not having sex stupid idea um and that's what
00:10:50.500 we're going to talk about on today's show should men and women wait to have sex until they're
00:10:54.360 married this is going to be a call-in show um but we're going to react to some tiktoks
00:11:01.120 and then we're going to have people call in i'm debating i've seen there's a video of charlie
00:11:07.180 kirk i just found of him super simping i kind of wanted to react to but i want to show the typical
00:11:12.200 dynamic that we really find with these guys um okay let's do the tick tocks first
00:11:20.280 oh i'm gonna ask so think about these questions
00:11:25.000 um should men and women wait to have i don't want to say should because you guys can do what you
00:11:35.100 want but would you recommend that men and women wait to have sex until they're married
00:11:40.940 um okay i'm gonna we're gonna watch some tic tocs
00:11:45.580 all right so this is of a girl that did it
00:11:53.380 oh the internet this is something i have never talked about publicly planning on it but i felt
00:12:05.940 like recently that i should so here we go i am someone who waited till marriage before you scroll
00:12:11.860 i'm not going by the way half the girls that waited till marriage back door and gluck gluck
00:12:17.540 that's how they get around it judge i'm not going to condemn this is about me i think the reason why
00:12:22.500 i didn't talk about it is because i feel like the people who do talk about this online
00:12:26.900 one are super weird about it two are super crittin three will condemn people about it or be like this
00:12:32.340 is the way you need to do it and i'm not doing any of those things so you do you i'm just telling
00:12:36.340 you my experience the main reason why i did this was honestly for my faith and so now guys i hear
00:12:43.140 you guys saying but std is in the chat all right you can get an std if you're married i we're gonna
00:12:50.900 do an std show on friday to give you guys um an in-depth like what your risks are basically but
00:12:59.060 one of the guys i interviewed that has herpes he got it from his wife like he got it in marriage
00:13:06.500 you know you don't know what people are doing decision pretty early on in my life that i was
00:13:10.580 gonna wait the reason on top of this is i don't love hookup culture i think the whole thing is
00:13:14.820 very toxic for me like i want to bring back like the chivalrous age we don't want to go back too
00:13:19.860 far because like you know i like the right to vote i do think that there's a lot of benefits
00:13:23.940 to waiting completely disagree with you have to test drive the car before you buy it like i think
00:13:28.660 that's completely false phrase has nothing can you imagine you do the whole waiting you dedicate
00:13:36.100 the rest of your life to this woman and then she says god says i can't gluck luck that happens to
00:13:41.140 guys i know and i'm going to tell you guys anecdotal stories there's guy new in england
00:13:45.780 he waited till he was married and he was from a really religious background and she just had a
00:13:52.500 really low either she either had a low sex drive or a low sex drive for him now you have to remember
00:13:57.780 guys the number one consumers of only fans are white christian men so to me that's saying that
00:14:05.380 this whole waiting thing isn't really working how we thought so with love which is what marriage is
00:14:13.060 all about our culture we've gotten lost in the sauce no pun intended about what marriage is for
00:14:18.980 and what specifically is meant for i made the decision i wasn't ended up for marriage as well
00:14:23.940 as not live with my partner just seen it end so badly with so many people i think it makes things
00:14:28.980 messy if the situation gets and they say you don't need to test drive before you buy it and i'm like
00:14:38.580 who wouldn't test drive a car like and this isn't just a car this is like a car that can
00:14:44.580 literally kill you like this is a car that can you for life and this is a car that's
00:14:51.860 supposed to like the amount think about this this is a car that's supposed to provide a service and
00:14:57.300 the services you know fucking and the car salesman is like you know what you got to prove you really
00:15:06.080 want this car before you buy it yeah i mean yeah this car has had other drivers but we can't let
00:15:14.240 you test drive. Now you might want to do that, but that's, it's kind of dumb. It's kind of,
00:15:21.680 it's kind of dumb. It's so much harder to get out of the situation. Self-protection. I think
00:15:26.680 it was important for me to not live with my partner before getting married. Sometimes in
00:15:30.540 society, we make so much serious things on serious. I feel like we need to bring back
00:15:34.300 the seriousness of like some sacred things. I didn't want anything distracting me from really
00:15:38.160 getting the bottom of who that person was. And if I could see a life with them, I feel like for me
00:15:42.280 it not waiting now by the way maybe waiting for marriage would work if these women were waiting
00:15:47.240 but women are not they're just effing until marriage would have been a distraction i wouldn't
00:15:53.120 have ended up with the right person thank god i did i think sometimes pearl ultimately what
00:15:57.640 you're saying is the personality and the internal of the woman is more important than her character
00:16:01.860 well what good is her her okay what good is the woman's personality if she's not hot and wanting
00:16:09.280 to get down and not wanting to throw it back like what if she could be a good person but if she
00:16:15.220 doesn't throw it back what good is she to you that's why you know it's interesting because i
00:16:23.360 keep hearing about this bloodline thing and i was thinking women almost choose betas to give to like
00:16:31.420 give their bloodline or whatever out of necessity i don't think it's like the flex a lot of these
00:16:36.980 trad cons make it out to be the flex is banging a girl in 30 minutes after meeting her that's flex
00:16:43.940 i've seen the puas do that oh my god the pua i had on my show a few weeks ago i i was at a
00:16:52.020 a thing in vegas and i went to one of his boot camps i just wanted to see
00:16:56.900 i saw him take home two girls in the same day i was horrified i didn't think that happened
00:17:02.180 i was a lot younger this is like when i first got into the yeah and that people wait because
00:17:06.980 they're trying to go back to life yeah and the reason doug says women need to have sex with the
00:17:11.800 guy as soon as possible yeah and that's what i would i would say after a certain age because
00:17:17.180 you have to ask yourself what's more valuable your youth your time or your purity and we got
00:17:24.540 to do this thought exercise i know men like to women don't let these guys lie to you don't let
00:17:30.100 them lie to you there's a lot of women with low body counts that are 50 but they're not signing
00:17:37.440 up for those your youth is your most valuable asset now i'm not saying but i'm not saying you
00:17:42.500 got to throw it back to anyone but guys it's really like if they're gonna ghost you they're
00:17:47.500 gonna ghost you if you do it on date three like the thing is especially i know how these like
00:17:55.840 players think um and one you're not going to outsmart them you're really not they've thought
00:18:04.560 through everything but like basically if you put up too much resistance they just start selling
00:18:14.160 you boyfriend they just start set like if you if you need more comfort that's they teach the guys
00:18:19.360 to give the woman more like comfort so she thinks it's more long term in order to get you know get
00:18:24.320 the punani yeah i mean you just kind of gotta wait and see if do it um and then and then you
00:18:32.960 can find out if he likes you or not um but most women aren't gonna like tell you this but
00:18:41.600 yeah i mean basically the guys that fall for that that the i'm more attracted to the woman
00:18:50.860 that make me wait and they like see the women that make you wait is more virtuous you guys have to
00:18:56.220 understand the women that make you wait longer see you as more of a sucker like that's how that's how
00:19:00.620 we i'm the only one that's like being honest with you um like women when they like
00:19:11.660 the puas have a term for this they say she should pull you you shouldn't pull her she should pull
00:19:17.900 you because these guys can build up the attraction so much to the point that the women are pulling
00:19:24.100 the guys home and you might think no that can never happen these guys are meticulous i am telling you
00:19:30.900 i am telling you they told me how they cheat on their girlfriends and it was so good like i'm like
00:19:38.300 ladies there's no way you could catch them there's just no way like they have thought through
00:19:44.820 like there's one guy that he was having trouble with like the hair women left so he just bought
00:19:52.100 like a three-bedroom house and each girlfriend would have a different room he would stay
00:19:57.020 do you know what I mean it's like yeah attraction isn't negotiable negotiable yeah I know but the
00:20:05.240 trads that's what they and the things if women can easily wait till marriage with you I want you
00:20:11.200 understand that it's with you like like it's it's it's you now if she's ripping your clothes off and
00:20:19.840 you say honey we gotta wait okay i i could maybe see that word like that dynamic is at least a
00:20:29.440 little better but that's not the dynamic i see in churches traditional patriarchal things and
00:20:36.160 that's like not why the reason why i did it for me waiting was more empowering than anything else
00:20:40.960 now was there times i thought this was dumb absolutely was there times i questioned god
00:20:46.400 about the whole thing absolutely even when i finally got married i did question was the pain
00:20:50.720 now i want to guess if her husband's gonna be like traditionally masculine or feminine
00:20:55.760 i don't know i'm gonna click on the page after waiting all worth it because guys you're dating
00:20:59.680 someone you love it's really rough and sometimes it does take a toll to wait but now that i'm
00:21:03.840 officially a year into my marriage i can say it was a hundred percent worth waiting now let me
00:21:08.320 me clarify I just don't know what would the difference be like like okay I know somebody
00:21:17.120 right and this person's been married 40 years and my whole life this person said wait till marriage
00:21:25.640 wait till marriage wait till marriage and this person had a 40-year marriage and I thought that
00:21:30.480 was I you know they fooled me on this too and I thought to myself I was like huh
00:21:35.820 well that has to be the right way there's all these studies or whatever
00:21:40.960 and then I found out what this woman did was she got pregnant three months after meeting the dude
00:21:46.740 and I'm like so really the advice you should have been giving me was to just you know get right to
00:21:54.060 it I guess get pregnant now I'm not saying to do that right but I was I was like damn I would
00:22:01.060 have been married five years ago if you just said get right to it you know I'm not I'm kidding but
00:22:09.760 half kidding but this is what a lot of the trads do right they say wait till marriage and you ask
00:22:16.000 well what did you do and none of them waited and you think to yourself like imagine if I had a
00:22:22.120 billion dollar company and you're like well how did you do it can you tell me how to do it
00:22:26.500 and then you say well you got to do it this other way and you're like no no tell me how you did I
00:22:33.060 want to know what you did and if I saw the problem is what happened to me anyways is if I saw like
00:22:41.080 a traditional relationship like the people that sign up for this if I saw a really masculine guy
00:22:46.980 and a feminine woman that seemed really happy um you know I'd sign up but instead I get like the
00:22:54.280 Trent Horns, you know, Trent Horns wife's like mouthing off saying she wants to fuck the pastor
00:22:59.980 instead of him on a podcast, you know? And, um, yeah, hold on some things waiting till marriage
00:23:14.800 does not mean God's going to fix all your problems. And I absolutely still believe.
00:23:18.520 Yeah. And it takes the burden of performance off of women because, oh my gosh, you guys don't even
00:23:23.660 get to have like the I want him to marry me sex oh you're gonna miss all of that the best sex
00:23:30.140 you'll ever get is a woman trying to get a ring and you are you oh you oh my gosh because we all
00:23:45.260 know women are bad people I'm thinking about this further not all not all but I'm thinking about
00:23:50.420 this further women we all know that the worst sex is married sex and it's because women like
00:23:58.240 you being a good guy like our attraction to you is basically how much we hate you that's
00:24:07.240 the unfortunate part it's not it's not fun as a woman she'll be like i hate him but i want to
00:24:11.480 you know so but basically guys what i'm saying
00:24:17.040 the best sex is the sex before marriage every guy gets married and says the sex is terrible
00:24:28.320 so the people the guy's waiting they don't even get to experience the best sex they get the worst
00:24:33.540 sex off the bat off the bat like they just go right to the worst sex ever like the best sex
00:24:41.560 is her is her she thinks you have other girls and she's trying to get you away from the other girls
00:24:45.980 then the next best sex is she's trying to get a ring and now you're you're just skipping all the
00:24:52.060 and the guys they're opting into this because god like basically basically the preachers are
00:24:58.460 coming are like f we need somebody to marry these horse oh what are we gonna do guys you have to
00:25:05.480 wait till marriage because god well the women aren't waiting till me no no no no god it's just
00:25:12.580 an L it's an L and look at I'm not I'm not the most religious person in the world but and part
00:25:20.000 of that comes from I come from a pretty religious background and I just saw I just would see how a
00:25:25.440 lot of these ideas panned out in real life over time like I'll give you an example in college
00:25:32.000 these girls would be in situationships for like three years and I thought I was like they're so
00:25:37.900 dumb you know he's never gonna settle down with them that that's never gonna work and i i really
00:25:43.720 thought i was like we'll just leave like he's never gonna date you they're all married and pregnant
00:25:48.380 now it does work because men do reward loyalty and they just took shit for a while and then he
00:26:00.220 did like i always hear these women say well if a guy's waiting this long to marry you he's never
00:26:05.100 gonna do it that's not what i've seen i've seen the last wedding i went to pulled the trigger
00:26:10.140 after seven years other wedding i went to pulled the trigger after 10 years um other wedding i went
00:26:17.180 to for you like i was like i don't know like if anything the people that rush into it i see them
00:26:23.340 get divorced pretty pretty fast like within three years anyways um but yeah you're basically just
00:26:32.620 you're saying let me have the worst sex of my life let me opt in even education you'd be educating
00:26:41.600 ourselves even if you are waiting ignorant and harmful not to know you're someone who's on the
00:26:46.640 fence about waiting until marriage i'd encourage you to pray about it think about it it'd be a
00:26:50.180 really beautiful thing when you find the right person let's say waiting until marriage really
00:26:53.880 kept me from a lot of toxic situations that i could have been left in allowed me to get out
00:26:57.980 way quicker than i probably could have if i didn't do otherwise so it's super vulnerable for me to
00:27:02.040 please be nice in the comment section all right let's see if she has let's see the oh my gosh
00:27:12.540 so let me get this straight her top thing
00:27:16.860 do you see what i mean like this is the trad girl that waited till marriage
00:27:24.120 i can't okay here's the husband let's see who signed up
00:27:35.400 this is going to be the biggest test of our marriage and no matter what happens we have
00:27:40.940 to know it's us let's see we got to decide alpha or beta in the chat we got to do the
00:27:44.900 no matter the results of this i will always love you
00:27:48.340 let's see
00:27:59.700 i mean he's already a super simp because his girls
00:28:06.820 oh yeah half of these are just marketing for the next guy do you know what i mean like so it's like
00:28:17.380 because basically if the religious people they're trying to say this works and what they'll always
00:28:25.440 do is they'll cite some studies right but at some point the studies and i've cited some of
00:28:31.340 these studies it's a little bit embarrassing now um i've cited some of these studies but like
00:28:36.720 at some point i have to see it play out in real life like i have to be like oh if i look at the
00:28:42.780 people that did it their marriages look like super different like super and and i see them look worse
00:28:49.780 if i'm being honest like at least the guy in the beginning it's amazing to me how much oh shoot
00:28:56.260 at least the guy in the beginning got that like toxic sex first you know i'm sure you see these
00:29:03.080 the guys these poor men don't even get to experience it they don't even know what genuine
00:29:07.240 desire is they never get it because you're starting you're starting the relationship
00:29:12.380 women it's like if we want to bang you you got to make us insecure and you got to get rid of the
00:29:17.160 comfort and so but you're starting the whole thing and just putting all the comfort up front
00:29:22.740 she doesn't have to work for it not even not even gluck gluck you know types of videos get
00:29:31.440 whenever we post about it yeah this is the typical yeah okay so this is the they waited
00:29:37.280 till marriage um she's got a nose ring hoop earrings and looks dead inside and he also
00:29:43.520 looks miserable does that look like a happily married guy so i think that we should talk about
00:29:49.040 it for context jacob and i have been married for three years and we did wait to have sex until
00:29:54.480 marriage and we also waited to kiss until marriage oh my god they waited to kiss it's something that
00:30:02.640 we really felt convicted by god to do as christians and we wanted to honor do you see the humiliation
00:30:08.560 in his eyes while his wife puts their sex life on the internet like do you see how humiliating that
00:30:14.640 is not in our relationship and it ended up being like one of the best things we've ever done i can
00:30:20.240 speak for what and i'm serious what would be because i'm thinking of this couple that's been
00:30:24.080 married 40 years they had sex they got pregnant and then they got married what is the difference
00:30:30.080 like to me i'm like and then the worst part is these women will virtue signal to me like they're
00:30:34.720 somehow better and i'm thinking i'm like how are you better than the couple that just started
00:30:42.160 banging in high school and stayed together for life like what is the difference pearl listening
00:30:48.560 to you woke me the f up you pimp me back to life can't thank you enough much love to you
00:30:54.320 thank you k casino i appreciate it um yeah okay let me continue myself personally that
00:31:04.480 i've never been with anyone before besides jacob so my only experience has been with him
00:31:09.760 so uh your your simp husband might believe that honey but i don't nope so there's no comparison
00:31:18.100 or idea that i have of what it would be like to be with someone else i'm coming from the other
00:31:23.420 side of this conversation so before i met taylor before i gave my life to jesus yeah i hear the
00:31:28.420 same like kind of simpiness in the voice unfortunately but it's not like a deep you
00:31:36.340 know i did not wait until marriage so i have test driven the car and done all of those things
00:31:42.700 and i can just say and testify i mean that's at least better i think he at least was effing around
00:31:49.300 too in my own life it's a complete lie so everything i ever experienced before taylor
00:31:55.180 or i didn't have an emotional connection i was in an unhealthy place i was just focused on the
00:32:00.260 physical gratification the connection that i would have how gay does he sound right now
00:32:05.700 this sounds gay or lack thereof was so minimal and not even comparable to what i now have with
00:32:15.060 taylor our sexual connection is far beyond anything i ever could have experienced outside
00:32:19.860 the context of marriage so i can actually testify against those comments because i've lived that out
00:32:25.180 and i'm telling you that one way is completely empty but god's way is so fulfilling and without
00:32:31.740 going into too much detail we also get a lot of comments of people saying like oh their wedding
00:32:36.460 night sucked or their honeymoon isn't going to be good and we just want to come against that because
00:32:42.060 that definitely was not the case for us at all i think because jacob and i were such good friends
00:32:48.300 and had such a good foundation of like oh you gotta oh we were friends first he's cooked he's
00:32:56.340 done he's done love and commitment to one another you can also tell who runs the relationship by who
00:33:02.700 talks first does she look to him to talk or does she talk and if she starts she usually runs it
00:33:07.700 the best position to be in is the good luck chuck position seeing a girl i had a few month fling
00:33:13.200 with in a new uh in a new long-term relationship knowing he's not getting anything proprietary is
00:33:20.220 so satisfyingly funny before our wedding night um it just made it so special yeah and i think
00:33:29.740 the world's interpretation is that in order to be good at sex you have to give way to perversion
00:33:34.900 and that's a total lie you don't have to engage in sexual acts with other people in order to learn
00:33:40.820 how the ladies in the chat know that's not true not for guys
00:33:47.860 and let's come on guys be good at sex now i'm not looking i'm not saying it's the right thing to do
00:33:59.260 right i'm not saying waiting till marriage like you could argue that it's morally right if you
00:34:03.420 believe in the bible right according to your religion i'm arguing it doesn't work in 2025
00:34:09.340 five that's what i'm arguing i'm arguing you can't pray these hoes back into marriage you just can't
00:34:17.500 concept of entering into it with somebody communicating with them through love and
00:34:22.540 doing things for each other not for the selfish gratification of yourself but actually for the
00:34:28.860 love and the sake of the other person that's what it's supposed to be about and you can never
00:34:33.100 experience okay okay how old is she i think she looks late 20s to me
00:34:42.060 oh she doesn't have age let's let's look at the let's see if at least she's covered up
00:34:47.740 please god this last one killed me okay this is a little better than the last one i have a little
00:34:54.220 bit more hope not really but
00:35:03.100 are we gonna label him a chad guy he is pretty tall he is pretty tall are we gonna okay all
00:35:15.140 right put put in the put in the comments if you think he's a uh alpha or a beta you guys get to
00:35:22.460 pick alfar beta put it in the comments the men all right let's use next oh this guy again
00:35:33.360 all right and so when you guys call in so me and my husband's been waiting for marriage i want to
00:35:40.620 know what you guys have have seen and experienced and i'm gonna i'm gonna tell you guys a couple of
00:35:45.520 my experiences of what i've seen in a lot of these like religious backgrounds and girl i do not
00:35:51.660 regret it. I'm going to take you on a little story time, okay? He had been saved since he
00:35:55.400 was four. I had been walling out in the trenches of the world. He had been a virgin his whole
00:36:01.480 life. I had been far from, okay? That's where we're starting. We got together when I had
00:36:06.060 been saved for about a year and he had been- She's going to ruin his life. That's a recipe
00:36:10.780 for disaster. Single for about 10. I had been single for about three minutes. It wasn't
00:36:16.600 three minutes. It was longer than that. I had a single season with Jesus, but it wasn't
00:36:19.700 very long okay and so when we got together the lord had to put his hand so graciously on our
00:36:23.780 relationship and give us strength because your girl was not so fond of patience you know from
00:36:31.460 the time we started dating until the time we got married was literally less than six months
00:36:35.300 the bible says rather you marry than burn with lust and we said say no more but for real we both
00:36:40.180 had confirmation from the lord that we were going to get married we knew very early on a week into
00:36:44.100 our relationship that we were going to be husband and wife so we started dating we start loving each
00:36:48.980 other because remember a lot of times women when they're dating you they don't know if they want
00:36:54.440 you or the kid or you or the wedding and that's why the guys that are getting sex for free they
00:37:00.420 really know that the girl likes them because they're not giving shit in return
00:37:04.080 why are you preaching people to not wait till marriage that's ungodly of you
00:37:12.980 let me guess elizabeth you're gonna try to sell me that you're a virgin
00:37:18.980 right like more than i can tell you i've ever loved anything or anyone in my life the women
00:37:26.420 are going to hate this because i'm spilling the game here i'm spilling the game marriage
00:37:32.580 like um marriage is a way for women to get a beta to bail them out
00:37:38.100 and then she can ruin your life later remember how this worked out for crowder that's the other
00:37:44.100 thing all these guys that touted this stuff they keep ending up in these superset marriages
00:37:48.800 they're getting divorced a second to jesus and i was obsessed i am still obsessed with this man
00:37:58.240 the thoughts the look of this man sent me to mars sent me to mars and you're probably going to
00:38:05.120 experience this it was very hard for us to practice self-control now did we wait we did
00:38:11.040 we absolutely did wait for marriage and my goodness i cannot tell you the difference between
00:38:16.400 you know what in the world and you know what in the kingdom it just doesn't make sense
00:38:22.240 i i don't believe there's a big difference because you guys took vows the vows don't
00:38:28.560 even mean anything women are leaving after like seven years you know what i mean like
00:38:34.720 if you said to me waiting till marriage is super different and i saw really different results right
00:38:43.200 and i looked at the couples and i said wow they're gonna make it
00:38:49.200 but you guys keep putting up these ex hoes you think you've experienced you know what but you
00:38:54.160 haven't you've experienced sin and sin alone and that ain't the same but we did mess up we were
00:39:00.080 doing and feeling and touching other things that we should not been doing feeling and touching and
00:39:04.400 i want to tell you and just she was gluck glucking she's a mid that's how she got the ring boom case
00:39:09.280 closed be honest with you about our story so that marriage is just a made-up thing like taxes
00:39:14.540 passports countries borders i don't know i'm starting to think the longer i'm alive the more
00:39:21.800 i think it was made up by women because it's just such a great get out of jail free card
00:39:28.340 where you don't have to do anything oh the only burden of performance is to be young cute
00:39:35.400 and not even young anymore to be cute and not have sex that's way harder than like not nagging
00:39:42.460 or being likable all you have to do all you have to do is not have sex you cannot make the same
00:39:48.540 mistakes because i wish you would have saved guys trust there are women that wait until marriage how
00:39:54.520 old are you elizabeth give me your age give me your age give me your age are you gonna call in
00:40:05.360 I better see you on the Zoom.
00:40:07.540 Every little thing.
00:40:08.820 I wish we wouldn't have slept in the bed together before marriage.
00:40:11.480 I wish we wouldn't have been, you know what, before marriage.
00:40:13.880 I wish we would not have, I wish we wouldn't have made out before marriage.
00:40:17.520 Now knowing how sweet it is when you wait and how blessed it is when you wait,
00:40:22.600 I wish we would have saved everything.
00:40:24.280 I'm so for real.
00:40:25.000 I probably would have waited to kiss until marriage.
00:40:27.640 Now knowing how blessed it is when you do,
00:40:30.720 I would have wanted to experience everything to that kind of fullness.
00:40:34.080 but when we got married all right so elizabeth is 19 almost 20 and she expects me to believe
00:40:40.940 let me get this straight so all right the average girl loses her virginity at 16
00:40:48.240 and you um some girls as early as 14 you start to get a sex drive so 15 16 17 18 19 20 you had
00:41:01.220 six years of having a healthy sex drive especially when you're young i mean these young women are
00:41:08.220 fucking anything these days um and you're expecting me to believe that you never got
00:41:13.860 fingered you never backed or blew not i'm not as dumb as as your simps okay i'm not
00:41:21.840 and you can tell me that but women are deceitful and i've had a lot of women on the show tell me
00:41:30.500 they were virgins. And I'm tired. I'm exhausted. Let me tell you, there's nothing like it on the
00:41:40.460 face of the earth. It is literally a picture. Yes. Self-control is key. Yeah. Like women have
00:41:45.560 self-control. Of Christ uniting the bridegroom with the bridegroom. And let me get this straight.
00:41:52.480 I want to, I want to add to that. So let me get this straight. On top of that, you have a phone
00:41:59.960 and you have an iPhone and you have a dating app that can get you a thousand matches in a day
00:42:05.860 and you could put the pin in a different city and have a guy that could it could be
00:42:12.440 completely anonymous you'd never see him again and you expect me to believe that in six years
00:42:19.020 you never did that
00:42:20.160 sure
00:42:25.680 all right
00:42:28.380 okay
00:42:36.900 yeah I did have faith until I started
00:42:41.200 talking to women that's so
00:42:43.240 true that's so true
00:42:45.460 yeah I started
00:42:47.220 I won't even lie to you guys
00:42:48.600 because i could give you a background of my faith stuff but i was pretty like i went to catholic
00:42:56.960 church probably till i was like 23 and i was in and out until my mid-20s i would say but
00:43:05.240 oh my god yeah these women they definitely made me lose faith they really did
00:43:10.640 oh i have a man dating apps okay elizabeth then why aren't you married
00:43:18.740 it doesn't go to the courthouse go now this is this is what the trad women do
00:43:26.340 if you were traditional you would just get married you would if you really like you would
00:43:38.400 just get right to it there's no reason to wait if you're waiting till marriage
00:43:42.400 go to the courthouse and get married but they never do there's always oh i need to finish school
00:43:48.920 oh i need to do this oh i need to do that uh-huh go get married how convenient
00:43:54.720 how convenient
00:43:58.700 yeah all right who we got next
00:44:08.400 Okay, so I never talk about this stuff on my TikTok. I want to see if I want to relate to this.
00:44:14.220 But why is it that every time I tell someone I'm waiting until marriage, I always get,
00:44:18.040 oh, you don't want to test drive the... Don't I have to get to know the person first? No.
00:44:23.840 Because women are so good about not sleeping with someone in their immediate social circle.
00:44:29.480 Women are so good at it. So, okay, we could have a woman that has a reputation for not sleeping
00:44:35.280 with anyone at the college but she'll just move the dating app to the city or meet a guy through
00:44:39.500 instagram like guys she could have a good or she goes on a vacation and gluck glucks do you know
00:44:47.880 what i mean like yeah it's just it so she can the only people dumb enough to buy purity are betas
00:44:55.420 because the alphas have banged these girls they have betas by purity
00:45:02.400 if you met your husband at like 15 i'll believe you maybe car before buying it or girl there's
00:45:12.500 like weirdos out there like like don't you want to know what he's girl i don't know about you
00:45:17.600 guys but like how much more attractive is a man who not only respects your boundary but yeah okay
00:45:23.660 so women try to sell you guys on this oh we like men that respect our boundaries but our number
00:45:29.140 one book is 50 shades of gray which is bdsm has the same boundary who's willing to wait for you
00:45:38.680 and to love you and choose you for you not for what you can give them physically it's giving i
00:45:44.160 want you to be the father of my kids you know what i mean like ladies i don't know about you
00:45:47.740 but we live in a world where there's like nasty people and why is why is this woman in my chat
00:45:52.720 trying to sell purity to me because she's already got a guy right so if if he but the problem is
00:46:00.260 now that i'm telling right she's gonna be mad because the next guy she's gonna sell purity to
00:46:07.360 yeah i mean fine you guys can believe it people out there just objectify women and just hook up
00:46:16.100 culture it just it really terrifies me and it's so disgusting and like why wouldn't i want to
00:46:19.940 until marriage but i don't think it makes her a bad person if she's like
00:46:25.300 she's a normal person with a sex dress sex is a need for men and for women i'm not you said
00:46:30.260 there's good people but i don't think it makes her i don't think it does anything really to do
00:46:38.820 with her personhood what she does in her bedroom i don't care but yeah like the selling purity
00:46:46.900 it's just not gonna work on me go find a simp please it's so reassuring to like why wouldn't
00:46:52.660 you want someone who has enough self-control why do these women like our men who like men
00:46:59.140 who obey boundaries the women sets for them in that sense why not why wouldn't you want to wait
00:47:05.940 until marriage you know what i mean it's like you do not want something good for you like i don't
00:47:09.780 know i wish i had like the right words to explain it just makes sense okay yeah all right who we got
00:47:17.140 next waiting until marriage yeah and the thing is you'll notice these women none of them are
00:47:27.740 beautiful they're always mid beautiful and remember mids are less pure than beautiful women
00:47:34.240 because mids have to compete beautiful women can do less and get more like when you're a beautiful
00:47:40.780 woman a guy will wait like six months and pay for your entire existence just because you're beautiful
00:47:46.940 if you're a mid you got like two dates chica one and a half if you're 32 so anyways um
00:47:57.580 you'll notice a lot of these women are mids decisions i've ever made i've not always waited
00:48:08.080 until marriage to have sex before my husband and before dating my husband i didn't believe in it
00:48:15.580 even though i was a christian even though i gave my life to christ it wasn't something that clicked
00:48:21.160 in my head yet before meeting my husband i was in a relationship with someone that was christian
00:48:26.440 and that actually helped me find the Lord.
00:48:29.000 But the thing is, we were not waiting for marriage.
00:48:32.080 We were very much fornicating, having sex,
00:48:35.120 and that was something that I didn't feel was bad
00:48:40.360 until I felt that conviction from the Lord.
00:48:42.920 There's a lot that happened that I won't be sharing today
00:48:45.460 that led me to the point of that conviction,
00:48:47.380 but I felt that, and that person didn't,
00:48:49.660 and I think that's what led us to break up.
00:48:51.520 After that relationship...
00:48:52.340 May I ask why young people shouldn't wait till marriage?
00:48:55.020 I'm not against young people trying, but girls are starting young.
00:49:01.620 All right.
00:49:02.080 I mean, even a guy that waits till marriage, she's probably banged someone else in the high school.
00:49:09.000 I'm just being honest here.
00:49:11.600 I was so broken that the only thing left for me to do was to just fully give myself to Jesus and fully commit myself to him.
00:49:20.600 OK, so I don't care.
00:49:23.140 OK, who's next?
00:49:25.020 Um, oh, I wanted to talk about, I made a list of people I met and don't, don't show it, but
00:49:34.420 the, so when I look at the people that I know that waited till marriage to have sex.
00:49:43.840 So I know one woman that I think it worked out for, and I didn't think her husband was a super
00:49:50.800 simp i know one but guess what ladies she went to college and she was on a mission she went into the
00:49:59.660 catholic dorm and she was getting that ring and she graduated you can do it but you got to be
00:50:09.700 cashed out by like 21 i do think she got finger blasted like once or twice so i don't know if
00:50:18.660 you count it but that's the closest I've um now really though what I've seen in churches the
00:50:29.940 dynamic is like this usually there's one or two chads that are like athletes entertainers football
00:50:36.020 whatever it is um and they'll just pick the hottest um hot first most feminine second
00:50:43.960 women in the church so they'll pick like one or two and get married again by 21 22 they're done
00:50:49.700 sometimes you have the mid that pulls it off but she's got to be like super feminine
00:50:55.720 and even that may not be enough
00:50:57.840 um and then the other guys really just fight over the leftovers that's what i've seen
00:51:04.340 um and the girl's like fine um then you get the weird girl so i was in this like
00:51:13.840 Protestant church for a couple of years and I went on this retreat that made me leave
00:51:19.180 and it was because and they're nice enough but it was like these
00:51:23.500 late 20s to mid 30s women that were just super single and I was like I'm gonna die alone in this
00:51:32.460 church and in this church basically these women they don't submit to their husbands they submit
00:51:41.680 to the pastor because let's say she's dating a guy does she ask his opinion no she asks the
00:51:47.920 the pastor's opinion and then what do the women do they love telling they love correcting the
00:51:53.200 husband by thumping a bible over their head and telling them they're not holy enough like i met
00:51:57.440 this 30 year old virgin um at a wedding once and she allegedly was a virgin and she told me that
00:52:05.440 this guy wasn't holy enough because he tried to have sex with her and i thought about it i'm like
00:52:10.080 I'm like, do you understand men at all?
00:52:11.540 They want to have sex all the time.
00:52:14.500 They're horny guys.
00:52:16.880 The other problem you get in these churches and these very religious people,
00:52:20.340 they're very sexually stunted.
00:52:21.660 Again, you know, back in the day when they did arranged marriages
00:52:25.540 and they did the waiting till marriage thing, they got it done.
00:52:28.780 They had a solution to people's sex drives by the time they were 18 years old.
00:52:36.220 I don't want them coming for me.
00:52:40.080 and so they would have to wait but they'd have to wait like a year it's pretty weird to spend
00:52:46.400 like your whole life sexless and that's really what they're asking men not women to do they're
00:52:53.760 saying spend your whole life sexless because men don't really become attractive to women until like
00:52:59.920 30 35. and even then like these women aren't really wanting to get married guys so
00:53:10.080 you also get the ex hoes that humiliate their husbands by giving speeches about all the dick
00:53:17.880 they took in the past these women are like sharks in the water and then you get the weird
00:53:23.040 homeschooled kids um who are not very social just act weird because of like a weird form of
00:53:30.300 autism is what it was described as um not that they all have it but it like it's almost like
00:53:37.840 they behave. And that's really what you get in these churches. And I, and I, I think they're
00:53:42.320 all really weird because you're like stunting a person's sexuality. And that, that problem used
00:53:51.180 to be taken care of when the world they did arranged marriages, but like, it's not natural
00:53:57.200 for people to be waiting till they're 30.
00:54:06.560 Elizabeth, if you found your right one, you'd be married.
00:54:09.600 You're going to move on and do better.
00:54:12.060 I'm sure you will.
00:54:13.380 And I wish you luck in your hypergamous future.
00:54:16.480 Okay, everyone.
00:54:17.440 So call in.
00:54:18.840 We're going to put the link in the chat.
00:54:20.140 um and um i want to know your thoughts on this topic would you recommend somebody waits till
00:54:29.980 marriage in 2025 recommend somebody waits till marriage in 2025 recommend somebody wait what is
00:54:36.960 the and by the way guys i came into this wanting to believe this i wanted i wanted this to be true
00:54:46.360 but you know reality sets in you start to see these couples getting divorced that waited you
00:54:54.720 you get to see these super simping and um i just i don't see that it works in 2025 um
00:55:04.900 most of the people i know like the happiest couples they really had sex immediately pretty fast
00:55:13.000 women you would recommend of course you would it benefits you because you don't have a burden
00:55:22.280 of performance you know like i had um i had um a pua i was reading his field report and um
00:55:36.040 he talked about how he had sex with a girl and then he ghosted her because she wouldn't stop
00:55:41.160 talking during a movie that's the burden of performance the husbands have to just listen to
00:55:47.460 it do you see what i mean it's like a raw deal the player just says get out and then you get to
00:55:53.560 deal with her bullshit where the the husband or where the player yeah the husband has to deal
00:56:00.200 with the whole movie she just talking talking talking i was reading that field report i love
00:56:05.380 a movie commentary i think i'd get ghosted
00:56:08.100 uh all right we're gonna do a call in
00:56:13.380 so is doug mpa on the line i am here oh doug mpa all right so and this is i want to know
00:56:23.280 three things from you guys i want to know what if you would recommend it
00:56:26.960 and what you have seen work and not work i don't please don't tell me your religion
00:56:35.260 i just don't care please don't tell me your bible verses it's really nice but look i'm asking what
00:56:45.340 works go ahead doug mpa okay first off elizabeth in the chat if you don't call in i'm timing you
00:56:52.700 out you're going to be timed out for 24 hours because you've been talking all this garbage
00:56:58.060 getting the chat all riled up i've been letting you go because i said call in if you don't call
00:57:03.740 in the next 10 minutes i'm timing you out because you are getting a little too hot in the chat you
00:57:09.340 have the opportunity to call in you're asking if pearl is going to get married have kids why don't
00:57:13.580 you call in and say it to her face you got 10 minutes okay so um i think that if if you're
00:57:23.660 pretty much like 19 20 21 and like the guy and the girl's a virgin i mean i mean i guess but
00:57:30.860 But like you said, oh, yeah, of course she is.
00:57:36.120 So now you're going to be in time out.
00:57:41.800 Yeah, of course she can.
00:57:43.200 So she can.
00:57:44.080 Let me get this straight.
00:57:45.020 She can do it.
00:57:45.760 She wants me to believe she's a dick.
00:57:47.560 Okay.
00:57:48.580 Dude, this is what I mean.
00:57:49.540 These virgins, man, they're so disagreeable.
00:57:52.340 They're like, I'm a virgin.
00:57:53.780 Well, then why don't you scream purity?
00:57:55.620 Because if you were pure, you wouldn't be bitching at me in the chat.
00:57:59.480 Do you know what I mean?
00:58:00.340 it's like why don't your actions match they're this is what they they just say believe me pearl
00:58:06.340 believe me i said it believe me screw you i know and i and i don't even give me the benefit of the
00:58:13.660 doubt on this show i say guys don't don't believe me it's fine like uh assume the worst i don't i'm
00:58:22.140 not gonna shame somebody for not giving me the benefit of the doubt when you're a stranger sorry
00:58:29.060 Yeah. Someone in the chat said, why would you tell women to not be virgins or young people?
00:58:37.060 Here's the thing. If you meet a woman who's gotten to 30 and she's a virgin, she's crazy.
00:58:49.020 Yeah.
00:58:49.680 If you meet a guy who's 30 and he's a virgin, he's an incel. I don't normally like that term,
00:58:56.020 but there is a such thing it's just been overblown and then also ladies a man will not audit you
00:59:04.660 to see if he wants a relationship with you until sex happens men get to know you two ways one to
00:59:12.240 have sex with you two to see if he wants you around and pro and i will keep going back and
00:59:17.280 forth about in this day and age guys and uh you shouldn't look at a woman sleeping with you on
00:59:26.000 the first date as her automatically being a because you want to be the guy she sleeps with
00:59:31.040 on the first date yeah it's like the guy the guy it's like wait sometimes guys want to be beta so
00:59:36.960 bad they're like oh she slept with me on a first date i'm like did you not want that you know like
00:59:48.000 yeah you can see if she made an exception for you like by how invested she is like if she ghosts
00:59:54.000 after it's not a big deal to her yeah if she's in love with you if she's in love with you after
00:59:59.380 uh she could do it often but maybe you're awesome or you know i'm saying like then you then you have
01:00:06.720 to vet based on her behavior but i'm like it's just it depends who you are to her go ahead doug
01:00:12.220 sorry yeah um the the only story i knew uh so i had a friend when i was younger and um he
01:00:21.180 this girl this is when we were really young i was like fresh out of high school i think i was 20
01:00:27.220 to like 19 and one of my friends was two years older than me and he met this girl and she was
01:00:36.000 in a relationship all through high school for four years and she broke up with her boyfriend
01:00:40.020 and then he he he knew this girl for six months and married her so they can have sex right and
01:00:46.960 were together for like 12 years and had two kids but they ended up getting divorced and that was
01:00:53.280 the only circumstance where i knew a guy that slept with a woman who waited for marriage but
01:00:58.720 they got married after six months and it probably okay wait did it work out for him or no no they
01:01:05.120 got divorced after like 10 years and two kids doug i wanna i wanna do an oldie but a goodie
01:01:11.600 video i found it can't pull it up do you care what is it now i want to do my your virginity
01:01:19.960 doesn't count video do you remember that i found it uh okay okay here i'm gonna play it
01:01:26.200 hello class welcome to the just pearly things youtube channel today i'm going to be doing a
01:01:33.440 lesson as usual but before i start don't forget to subscribe to the channel and ring that
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01:01:42.560 lovely student jess what's up this is red pill 101 okay so today we're going to talk about
01:01:49.500 virginity i remember this so what do you know about virginity a lot
01:01:53.120 now i'll give you an example number one
01:01:58.880 you're a whale now well whales are a beautiful majestic creature
01:02:05.680 ah the internet no
01:02:09.500 men aren't lining up to date fat chicks
01:02:17.900 a dude will take an only fans model
01:02:20.040 with a hundred bodies
01:02:22.100 before he takes a fat chick
01:02:24.040 I'm sorry I don't make the rules
01:02:25.340 you don't hate the player
01:02:28.520 hate the game
01:02:29.140 it just is what it is
01:02:30.640 you have to be a certain level of good looking to get in the club
01:02:33.280 number two
01:02:34.660 I hate my side of the cliff.
01:02:37.260 You can't even get in.
01:02:38.700 You, you're ugly.
01:02:44.880 Your virginity doesn't count if you're ugly because, again, blessing.
01:02:49.460 If your girl's face looks like it was smashed in with a baseball bat,
01:02:56.160 but she's a virgin, or you get a girl that's pretty hot,
01:03:01.780 but you know like 10 20 bodies
01:03:04.900 and that's what it's saying your virginity it's it's valuable but it's not valuable
01:03:15.240 if you're well you're ugly nobody's lining up to date ugly fat chicks i don't make the rules
01:03:21.200 yeah and so a lot of girls will be like i'm a virgin i'm a virgin and it's like great ma'am
01:03:26.580 but nobody's trying to no one's trying to mess with you no one's trying to mess with you
01:03:31.540 so it's like okay yeah you turned down losers that were trying to screw you but like yeah so
01:03:39.460 anyway point number three your virginity doesn't count if
01:03:49.300 oh yeah i forgot
01:03:53.460 you're old okay now we're gonna bring the whiteboard back right i have it it's over there
01:04:01.540 But if you're a terrorist with the whiteboard, let's see what else.
01:04:06.380 Yeah, but it goes back to point number one and two.
01:04:09.800 You're lying or or.
01:04:13.680 You're too picky.
01:04:16.160 Because let me think you've been in the game since you were 16, 18, and you're telling me not one guy could live up to your standards.
01:04:25.440 Too picky.
01:04:26.180 or something
01:04:33.020 is wrong with you mentally now a lot of virgins get this i'm better than everyone
01:04:48.240 attitude where they just think they're god's gift to the earth because they have and okay
01:04:55.840 you get the idea what did you think of that i remember old school pearl man
01:05:04.000 i remember can we still call women whales on this channel or is that a no-go
01:05:16.880 you didn't tell any lies in that video at all i'm telling you what was the last one
01:05:21.360 trying to skip through it oh if you're selfish and argumentative
01:05:26.560 if you're a basically your virginity doesn't count but yeah these are the four so your virginity
01:05:31.840 doesn't count if you're ugly you're a whale you're old um or you're selfish or argumentative
01:05:36.880 it doesn't count so yeah this woman was like in the chat she was like i'm a virgin
01:05:43.360 i'm a virgin but i'm like well
01:05:46.800 does it count if you're arguing all the time
01:05:52.640 yeah sorry go ahead so have you ever seen it work to people waiting for marriage because
01:06:02.520 you're in your 40s yeah um i had a woman who was who i met that was in her late 50s her and her
01:06:11.120 husband they they grew up in alaska and they had sex when they're when he was 16 she was 15
01:06:17.960 she got pregnant and they've been they were made for almost 50 years when i met him okay
01:06:25.440 anyone else that was the only one nope that was it damn yeah like it seems like it only works
01:06:33.080 if like they're super young um if a woman is a child by a man and that is a relationship for
01:06:39.160 seven months with him and having sex then she waits until wait if a woman has a child by a man
01:06:45.000 and then is there in a relationship for seven months with him and having sex then says she
01:06:49.480 wants to wait till marriage is it right oh my gosh no that would happen doug mpa because we would do
01:06:58.920 at my high school there was like these chastity speakers and they would send out it would always
01:07:03.320 be the same story some girl got ran through and then waited and the guys would be like no we're
01:07:08.760 not sending the girls to now like now the chastity speakers in town the girls
01:07:16.360 like might not want to have sex anymore yeah i had a you know um i've met liberal women who try to
01:07:25.400 do this thing they say well every so often a woman wants to stop having sex so she can regain her
01:07:31.560 energy and realign her something or whatever i've had a girl trying to use that on me before
01:07:36.280 where we had had sex you know for the first couple of months and then for some reason with her
01:07:42.260 chakras and her her her energy she wanted to stop having sex i'm like what ah i'm out of here see
01:07:48.460 you later the other thing you're teaching women to weaponize sex to get what they want so like
01:07:53.920 you don't get to have sex with me unless you commit to me forever it's kind of entitled in a
01:07:58.120 way yeah that's why and it's funny a lot of these women know that sex is all they have it's like
01:08:03.840 britney renner britney renner wanted a man that could have sex with all the women in the world
01:08:08.960 to just have sex with her and beg her for sex so low cow brow whales pigs bison thank you for the
01:08:17.120 super chat i appreciate you guys eskimo p uh hi guys thank you i appreciate the super um can you
01:08:25.360 tell them the story about the girl you dated that was in the church if you don't mind you don't have
01:08:31.200 to but wait the the one that i dated huh you told me that she was really religious and she like
01:08:37.360 regretted it because it messed up her life oh yeah yeah so so i met this girl um and she was
01:08:44.400 she was a black girl and you know most of the time i stay away from the b-dubs but she was
01:08:51.760 she was really really nerdy really bubbly and she liked k-pop anyway so i met her she was 33 years
01:08:59.280 old and when she moved off to college her first day of college no her second day on campus she
01:09:06.720 met this super religious group i'm talking like jesus is coming any day group and she just latched
01:09:13.440 on to that and from 20 to like 32 she was all about you know proselytizing jesus is coming
01:09:21.360 every day blah blah blah right then she finally woke up and was like i'm wasting my life in this
01:09:26.720 because you know he hasn't come in the last 12 years or whatever so before she met me she lost
01:09:34.240 her virginity she met this guy on uh ok cupid and slept with the guy that she met online for the
01:09:42.240 first time and then he ghosted it afterwards i was like no way she's like yeah and she regretted
01:09:51.360 that whole time because she's like i i let that be the focal point in my life and i missed
01:09:56.480 on all these opportunities and now i don't know what to do and doug mpa would would you say you're
01:10:01.760 you could get married again would you say you're open to it yeah i'm open to it so if a woman
01:10:11.120 came to you and said that she was open to it but she wants to wait till marriage would her chance
01:10:16.400 of what would be your odds of landing you she's gone yeah and i'm the only one that's going to
01:10:24.880 be honest about this guys i mean you might get a young guy on that but the guys that hit 30 they're
01:10:31.120 gonna they wise up and they abandon it i'm telling you oh yeah once you hit your 40s if she doesn't
01:10:38.000 sleep with you on the first or second date guys there's no point
01:10:40.720 so but all right guys make sure make sure to like the video subscribe if you haven't already
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01:10:55.420 please and we have a full line of calls so we're going to give you four minutes
01:11:00.480 it is pure it is innocent oh is that me sorry i thought that was sorry oh it was one of the tick
01:11:15.440 tocks started playing again okay i turned my sound off so okay so up first we have melissa
01:11:24.960 Melissa is coming on, Melissa is connecting to audio.
01:11:31.840 Thank you for everyone in the YouTube.
01:11:33.560 Always good to see you.
01:11:34.880 And thank you for everyone on the audacity chat.
01:11:37.060 Always good to see you guys.
01:11:38.060 Make sure to go over to Pearl's website.
01:11:40.060 It's 999 a month to participate in the audacity chat.
01:11:44.580 Melissa, are you there?
01:11:47.580 She's probably watching YouTube.
01:11:48.740 So she's like 10 seconds behind Melissa, Melissa, are you there?
01:11:54.780 actually it's not melissa this is my wife's computer so oh hey how's it going how's it
01:12:01.700 going pearl thanks for having me um can you tell me what part of the country you're in and your age
01:12:06.480 uh 38 in texas okay so what are your thoughts on the topic do you recommend people wait for
01:12:14.880 marriage have you seen it work have you seen it not work oh yeah um yeah i i think hold on hold
01:12:21.980 that my daughter is okay you got 10 you get you get four seconds just give me 10 seconds i like
01:12:34.020 it when a girl sleeps with me on the 800th date get me in pearl i'm waiting i'll bring you back
01:12:38.920 up in a second okay we're gonna have uh up next we have akil is joining make sure to read that
01:12:53.560 super chat pearly which is the last one i thought i read it no oh did you i like it when a girl
01:12:58.900 sleeps with me on the 800th date i read that okay cool all right akil are you there yes akil
01:13:06.700 how are you I'm good how are you are you in India uh no I'm an Indian but I live
01:13:15.040 in Canada right now okay cool what are your thoughts on the topic waiting for
01:13:19.260 marriage well it depends on the culture you see if you're from a conservative
01:13:24.220 culture it's an obligation but if you're rich it's kind of optional for you okay
01:13:29.820 and if you have like peer pressure then it's better not to wait because then
01:13:36.420 they'll call you a loser and stuff and if satisfying your peers is part of your survival
01:13:42.200 then you don't have an option there right so um what have you seen are you friends with mostly
01:13:51.380 like people from like part of the indian culture or no uh yeah i do have a friend from the indian
01:14:01.400 culture and also from and are they i'm just curious if you see them waiting for marriage
01:14:06.600 and if you see their marriages working out go ahead uh five years back they used to wait a lot
01:14:14.200 but not today not at all dang it's cooked even in india huh yes what changed was it feminism in india
01:14:23.560 uh feminism for sure and uh you know the peer pressure
01:14:32.760 like you know if this guy is doing it i go i also got to do as well something like that
01:14:39.800 do you see women sharing men a lot there like going for the same guys
01:14:46.680 yes they do yeah have you seen there's like something going around on twitter that's saying
01:14:52.280 like indian women will date white guys in their 20s and then go back to the indian guys after
01:14:58.280 do you see that oh yes that's happening a lot what about it oh i was just wondering
01:15:06.120 if you've seen it because it's going viral on twitter right now
01:15:11.480 is uh is is indian culture xenophobic like that where they only want you to have kids
01:15:16.360 with another indian or something no it's nothing like that but uh i think you know the indian
01:15:23.960 women they have pressure from their parents to marry among among the indian culture or something
01:15:29.400 like that so yes that's why you always see them going back to i think maybe that's one of the
01:15:36.680 reasons i i don't really know and are you are you married yourself i know i'm single okay okay
01:15:47.320 have you have you ever been married no no okay 30 years all right all right well thanks for
01:15:55.160 calling in okay call in any time oh yeah i have one more thing to ask like i applied for the
01:16:02.120 you know clippers job with you oh um doug mp can you remind me to go over that at the end of the
01:16:10.920 show yeah not now but i'll go over it later all right thanks okay thank you so much that's good
01:16:17.160 they make it know that real fast one second go over clips over course okay deep in their show
01:16:30.280 okay we're gonna try and bring up the guy the the artist formerly known as melissa
01:16:37.480 hopefully as his kid and under control here all right the guy that's on melissa's account you're
01:16:44.440 back uh colton says no simp new buses come every 15 minutes fellas nice colton
01:16:54.760 go ahead the guy that's on melissa's account go ahead
01:17:00.560 can you guys hear me yeah go ahead
01:17:05.920 hey how's it going all right uh what's your um name age relationship status you said you're in
01:17:14.920 texas right uh yes i'll just hold on a sec are you listening to the youtube or are you on zoom
01:17:24.760 uh no i'm on zoom um but i was on youtube or yeah youtube listening and um it was it was
01:17:32.880 echoing so i had to cancel go ahead no i i think it's and when i when i speak i speak for
01:17:43.000 more for young people um i can i can agree that for older people like if you're talking about 30
01:17:50.160 and above it can be a little different uh but usually when i speak about myself my wife and
01:17:57.500 our experience and our testimony on this specific topic i like we like to speak more to younger
01:18:04.960 uh younger people and for for me and my wife we we did it exactly as a lot of people dream to do it
01:18:13.920 but they don't they don't seem to they don't seem to to go forward with it me and my wife were from
01:18:24.540 Europe and we we met when we were kids we became really good friends kids when I say I was 14 she
01:18:32.780 was 10 and we became good friends and and then I came to the States she was of course young 10
01:18:42.800 years old she stayed in portugal with her parents and um and i came to the states had my childhood
01:18:49.960 um the rest of my childhood until uh adulthood um here in the states and uh 10 years later we
01:18:58.680 started talking through facebook and we came together um and then got married so both of us
01:19:05.700 got married as a virgin so how old were you got when you guys got married well i was 29 she was
01:19:12.280 24 and we were both virgins okay so when did you guys start dating uh 2011. no like how old was she
01:19:24.840 when you started like when she came to america uh when we started dating she was uh she was 20.
01:19:34.680 okay but you couldn't 2021 yeah but you couldn't verify that she was a virgin if she was in another
01:19:41.900 country no of course not but you you asked right you have that conversation yeah but like it kind
01:19:48.680 of goes back to you just like it's just believer because she said like how would you even know the
01:19:54.260 difference if you weren't like if you like if you'd only had sex with her how would you even
01:20:00.380 know the difference between a girl that's a virgin and not like i've seen women pulled out i'm
01:20:06.060 christian i'm not a doctor i'm not a doctor to go in there and verify if she's really a virgin
01:20:11.540 yeah but i believe in her honesty i mean we're both christian and her family i i know her parents
01:20:19.400 really well they've known me also since i was a little boy um you believe in a woman's honesty
01:20:25.140 I don't well I I would agree with you Pearl that most women most and 2025 are not honest when it
01:20:36.620 comes to their sexuality now me knowing uh my wife because we were friends as little uh and
01:20:45.680 knowing her parents, knowing her, her family. Yes, of course. I, I truly believe that she,
01:20:54.120 she was a virgin. Well, you met on Facebook, right? Like that's how you reconnected.
01:21:00.320 We, no, we, yeah, we, we, we reconnected through Facebook. Yeah. And she was going,
01:21:06.080 she was studying at the moment. She's studying Chinese medicine. And she told me, look, I
01:21:13.140 dated in high school it was it was like uh you know like a two-week kind of thing it was it was
01:21:18.560 nothing and and then after that i she told me that she wanted to focus and her parents um wanted her
01:21:25.720 to focus and her finishing college and that was her focus she told me this is my focus for me to
01:21:33.080 yeah but women can say things right like that's sure i mean i i just you have to understand i do
01:21:40.380 this i do this for a living so people call in and whenever like a guy will say he found a virgin she
01:21:46.320 always conveniently comes from another state or country like i'm telling it's like almost
01:21:50.780 unanimously yeah but i'm also from i'm also from portugal we're both from portugal it's not like
01:21:56.260 you know so you know every guy in portugal to ask if she did anything with them like come on no no
01:22:03.000 No, you're right. I don't know every girl in Portugal, but I know her enough to believe her.
01:22:15.840 It's not like I met her and then we kind of liked each other and I never met her, never talked to her before that.
01:22:25.980 And then we decided to date and then get married. No, I knew her before and I knew her family before even.
01:22:32.380 And I mean, when we were kids, like I said, she was 10 years old and I was 14.
01:22:36.720 We were just friends, just kids.
01:22:39.200 And I knew her parents, her mom.
01:22:43.160 She's all her family's Christian base.
01:22:46.960 Did she live at home or did she live on campus?
01:22:51.280 No, she lived at home with mom and dad.
01:22:54.500 And her mom was also a virgin when she got married.
01:22:58.580 And her dad was also a virgin when she got married.
01:23:01.520 so i mean it sounds nice but like sorry you might buy it it sounds too good to be true
01:23:10.400 right no it just it's you have to understand again it's all like i've just heard this so many times
01:23:18.400 where every guy if i like you know if you were in the same country the whole time
01:23:24.180 i could say okay sure but like to me it's pretty implausible that you were the only guy she was
01:23:30.380 messaging with like if she messaged you she's probably messaging other guys too and a strategy
01:23:37.660 that women do if they want to maintain purity is they they tend to go out of country or out
01:23:42.380 of state um because then it doesn't get back to where they're from so um i i hope it was
01:23:49.580 but you can tell me how it turned out but yeah i you have to forgive me i just i have a girl
01:23:55.900 i have a tough time 2025 what i i understand where i understand where you're coming from
01:24:02.700 um can you hear me yeah i can i can hear you okay i understand where you're coming from because
01:24:09.180 looking at how women and and young adults let's just say that how they are in 2025 i understand
01:24:17.020 your point um and it it can be it can be hard to believe you know but i like i said before i knew
01:24:28.240 who she was even as a as a child now i wasn't there um after 10 years went by i wasn't there
01:24:37.980 to see who she dated who she messed around with i wasn't there but i know her parents
01:24:45.460 and and you know i know that she would follow as as a as a christian um daughter of you know i i
01:24:59.260 know that she's she respects her parents a lot and so much that she would follow their steps
01:25:06.520 um and to this day i mean we've been we've been together for 14 years um and i i can see i can
01:25:16.040 see why she would wait because she's she's not the kind of person to be jumping around messing around
01:25:21.960 or or to jumping from relationship to relationship we have these conversations though a lot of guys
01:25:27.960 think that if pearl questions whether she was actually a virgin or not that it's saying something
01:25:33.160 to the character of a guy's wife or the integrity of their marriage and that's not what's going on
01:25:38.920 here all pro saying is you know you just gotta take it i mean especially here in the united
01:25:46.120 states you gotta take a girl saying that she's a virgin with a grain of salt because the way
01:25:51.160 i'm just gonna think about it is she has a normal sex drive that starts at like 15. she was 24 nine
01:26:00.200 years i you know other people may believe that i don't i'm just being honest 29 years old and i
01:26:10.040 was a virgin why would anything anybody believe me but i know what i did and what i did dude i
01:26:16.920 kind of don't but you know that's exactly so yeah so it is kind of pointless having these
01:26:24.420 conversations if everybody that you talk to you are automatically going to think that they're lying
01:26:32.580 that's because of how society isn't that's not true if you if you had different answers if we
01:26:37.580 if you had different answers to the questions if you had different answers to the questions i would
01:26:42.200 have been more likely to believe you if i had different answers yeah if you guys are in the
01:26:47.560 same town at least or like i'd be okay that's maybe you know but different countries yeah come
01:26:54.140 on like yeah come on okay but um we got a full lineup of callers we literally have like
01:27:01.020 seven people waiting oh yeah that's fine no that's fine thanks for having me i just wanted
01:27:06.200 to kind of give uh look i wanted to hear a little more from him doug mpa oh i'm sorry go ahead go
01:27:11.960 ahead i just had one more question so so but okay let's let's for all intents and purposes say you
01:27:18.520 guys waited whatever um it worked out well i'm guessing is your conclusion and did you know
01:27:25.400 other couples that did the same thing did it work out the same go ahead no i didn't i didn't know
01:27:31.500 any any couples that went through that and they could have their testimony you know out there and
01:27:38.760 where i heard their testimony and i was like oh wow it is possible no um but she did but she her
01:27:47.460 parents they she followed her parents and to this day she has a sister and you know she's following
01:27:53.720 the same steps she's following the same steps how old's the sister well i don't want to say
01:27:59.240 so they so she cooked her sister basically i don't i don't want to say but okay and in my in
01:28:06.500 And in my part, I just, you know, I had a really tough past.
01:28:14.200 And so I wasn't the ladies kind of guy anyways.
01:28:20.140 And I focused on playing soccer.
01:28:22.940 My focus was to become a professional soccer player.
01:28:26.440 And that's what I did from the time I woke up to the time I went to bed.
01:28:31.740 That's what I did.
01:28:32.860 And so that was my focus.
01:28:34.040 and then when I was I don't know how to say I was open enough to to talk to girls and be open with
01:28:45.080 girls I was already older and at the time you know in high school I dated a couple of girls
01:28:52.900 but it was the same thing it was just like a couple of weeks and then it's just drama here
01:28:57.380 drama there and I was I would be like no I'm not for that and so I would be like okay we can't be
01:29:03.440 together and then eventually we start i started talking to my wife on facebook again after 10
01:29:09.240 years went by and it clicked because she was sharing with me views and beliefs that she had
01:29:16.380 that i also had and i was like you know this is amazing she's a virgin i'm a virgin she's waiting
01:29:23.420 she's focused on one thing i'm focused on another thing and also because we're we're christians we
01:29:29.060 We, you know, I don't want to talk too much about the Bible and Christianity, but we truly believe when scripture says, you know, it's good for it's good for you to wait.
01:29:40.500 And by waiting, you become one with that person.
01:29:46.280 We truly believe that.
01:29:47.960 And so that was exactly what we wanted.
01:29:51.080 And I know that that is a hard thing to do.
01:29:53.640 Yeah, she cooked her sister, though, given that advice.
01:29:56.980 Cooked.
01:29:57.540 if she's over 25 she's done cook i'm not going to comment on that because i don't want to be
01:30:03.660 putting her sister um on life here for you know i'm just saying if she's over 25 she's done
01:30:10.720 cooked okay well thank you for calling in i appreciate it all right appreciate it pearl
01:30:16.300 yeah have a good one bye
01:30:17.700 it's just they always come from another country always like
01:30:24.500 and then uh you know i first up guys married i don't like you know i don't like having discussions
01:30:32.100 like this with with married people you know the guy has a wife he seems like he's winning and
01:30:37.420 happy and stuff once again people like that they think that you're questioning the integrity of
01:30:42.800 their wife and maybe he made a bad decision that's not it it's just you know you just don't know
01:30:47.240 yeah well it's just i'm not in you know they could have a happy marriage i don't
01:30:52.660 maybe she was but it's just very convenient that he wasn't around for 10 years you know like i'm
01:30:59.940 like that's all you have to say is i'm a virgin and then guys okay go ahead next one all right
01:31:07.300 we have sarah is coming up she is in the audacity chat she is joining us on the call what's going
01:31:13.220 on not much hey sarah um i think i hear the oh it stopped yes i'm gonna put out on mute here
01:31:21.860 sorry there's that that that delay there how are you i'm good how are you i'm good
01:31:31.060 so figured as a a mom i would call in today and great yeah okay okay give me your give
01:31:37.140 me your thoughts on the topic um so are you still married i am 27 years cool so and was when 27
01:31:45.940 years ago was were people waiting to have sex back then was it normal um no so they would say
01:31:54.420 i know you're honest virtuous and all of that but no um i'll be honest my husband had a daughter
01:32:01.220 and you know i wasn't exactly lily white but um yeah we got married and we've stayed dedicated
01:32:08.420 to each other for 27 years through you know all the ups and the downs and the crazy and the dry
01:32:14.500 in the deserts and uh we've somehow managed to get two sons who know are adults and two little
01:32:20.740 girls that are in their teens and it's it's an interesting i guess viewpoint because we've seen
01:32:27.460 what all my sons have been through my younger one just got through a divorce and met a girl
01:32:32.980 six months ago and they're expecting a baby oh wow and you know and then there's my older son
01:32:40.900 he's been through just horrible horrible relationships and he's just he doesn't
01:32:46.260 believe in love right now but we try to encourage him to have faith that that there is that one
01:32:52.100 person out there that's just he's going to know kind of like when his dad walked into my life and
01:32:57.220 i walked into his i think i would have i would have less faith actually well um i am a little
01:33:06.260 afraid for my girls question though uh real fast what how did your sons end up having such terrible
01:33:14.820 situations with women did they fall into like the stereotypical happy wife happy life
01:33:20.260 men are supposed to bow down to women guard western garbage what happened
01:33:27.060 i'll be honest i've i've kind of spoiled them and so they meet girls and they're very open
01:33:35.300 in an honest, like, Hey, I want somebody that I get to take care of. I want somebody who's going
01:33:41.160 to be there for me. I'd really like it if you stayed home, you know, very, very conservative
01:33:46.240 use. And the girls are like, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I want. And that's never what they
01:33:50.940 want. Um, my son who got married, she wanted children and, you know, he was like, let's wait.
01:33:59.500 and in the end she made him out to be just a monster and come to find out all she wanted was
01:34:10.720 children so that she could leave and now now she's you know by herself and out doing her little thing
01:34:17.540 and he's expecting the baby that he's always wanted with somebody that just thinks that he
01:34:22.760 you know is the moon and the sun and she's gotta be raging i bet she's so pissed that makes it
01:34:30.920 better oh yeah she's she's very match this this lady that he's with now does have two children
01:34:37.700 from a previous marriage and she saw them out having breakfast like a normal family
01:34:44.380 and i guess she called him and was like i'm sorry i wish that i wouldn't have done what i did and
01:34:49.160 He's like, um, I've moved on and we're getting, he's bought a house and he's bought cars and he's
01:34:55.940 living his life and he's moved on. But I am scared for my girls because of the culture and they are
01:35:05.700 homeschooled and we've kind of allowed them, I guess their area to come to terms with, you know,
01:35:12.340 being 12 and 14 years old with, you know, the girls out there doing their thing and the boys
01:35:17.040 out there doing their thing. And, um, I do worry about the future of it. If they're going to meet
01:35:22.300 somebody that's going to treat them nice and, and be good to them. And I guess, traditional,
01:35:28.680 they're not above working, but, um, they really do want to be a traditional person that,
01:35:36.700 you know, is loving and nurturing and caring and has children and has a good life.
01:35:43.540 Do you have anyone? Do you have anyone around there in mind? Like any sons that are because I only see that like just my thought process. I don't have kids, obviously. So, you know, you're in the field, you know, that more than I do. But my thought process is you really are only going to get that if the families help, because if they do it on their own, it's Instagram and dating apps, or I think they use Snapchat, the teens now, whatever.
01:36:11.480 we don't have any of that they don't even have a phone yeah but but at some point right like you
01:36:16.600 can you can you can prolong it but they'll turn 18 and they'll get it you know yeah right and you
01:36:22.200 gotta you you gotta ease them into social media because if if you homeschool without a phone all
01:36:28.920 the way through high school age and they go off to college they're cooked yeah we are we are looking
01:36:34.200 for the 14 year old to get a phone but they've watched what their brothers have gone through
01:36:39.320 and my husband is an extremely conservative guy very much of hey um i'm the guy and you're gonna
01:36:49.880 listen and if i tell you that you're not going to do this then you're not going to do it and
01:36:54.200 they've listened and and heard all of the stories that we've tried to tell them of look this has
01:37:00.520 happened to your brothers this has happened to this person and they're like oh okay and i don't
01:37:06.360 think that a lot of parents have that of because you know the atmosphere is just different with
01:37:13.800 peers so are your daughters do they want to get married and have kids young i don't know um you
01:37:22.600 need to ask them they do want they do want to have children at a young age but they're also
01:37:29.400 not above working but it's not the kind of work that they want to go out and get you know the
01:37:35.480 cars and the colleges and things like that they want to you know be babysitters and care for
01:37:41.160 children and be bakers and do music so right now i know that they're very sheltered but just make
01:37:51.960 sure to watch because yeah women that girls that want to get married they don't use terms like
01:37:59.480 partner right if they start using the word partner cooked honestly if they start talking about going
01:38:07.800 to like law school or something like that or getting some kind of degree that nobody cares
01:38:12.840 about or they want to start taking out student loans just make sure you you listen to their
01:38:17.720 words because their words will become actions you know what i'm saying right one of them is actually
01:38:22.200 mentioned we we are catholic and one of they both just made their confirmation and when asked hey
01:38:30.040 have you ever thought about going into becoming a nun and one of them was like yeah i've actually
01:38:34.920 thought about it but i don't think that that's where i'm going i don't i don't know where i'm
01:38:39.240 going but i don't think that's where i'm going but it's not ruled out so we just kind of allow them
01:38:45.160 to have kind of their own comfort level when they ask questions, we tell them. My older one has been
01:38:52.540 out on a date that I, you know, hung out with. And I think that annoyed the boy a little bit more
01:38:57.540 than it annoyed my daughter because he couldn't put moves on my daughter and because I was standing
01:39:02.360 there. But I think that for my girls and for my boys, I encourage if they're from a healthy family
01:39:13.420 of you know a dad that is definitely the head of the household and a mom that supports that husband
01:39:18.940 being the head of the household and children that respect both of their parents and the guidelines
01:39:23.740 that the parents have tried to put forth for them that those are the kind of people that usually
01:39:31.100 tend to want a good relationship so that's what that's what we're aiming to to get them towards
01:39:38.780 so what about what you've seen in the past like 27 years have you seen like do you know
01:39:44.380 anybody that's waited till marriage and did it work out for them um i knew one person that
01:39:51.820 waited till marriage and she was very much like my former daughter-in-law who wanted kids so much
01:39:59.020 and that was her focus is kids kids kids and it was not on her husband who eventually just kind
01:40:05.420 of said okay i don't want anything to do with either one of you because i feel like an outsider
01:40:10.620 and that damaged both of them very deeply of you know she had this child and the child i i don't
01:40:18.860 know what happened but he just kind of checked out okay so second then so she ended up you know
01:40:26.060 because i always thought that the people that waited would have so much better results and as
01:40:30.300 i got just me personally as i got older it just wasn't what i saw i wish i wish it was yeah yeah
01:40:37.420 but i wish that i had not had the baggage that i did when i met my husband and he wishes that he
01:40:43.900 didn't you know go through the relationship that resulted in his daughter but we don't regret
01:40:50.700 that we were who we were when we met we just wanted to do better than we had been doing
01:40:55.900 yeah well it's like we knew instantly hey i'm gonna marry you yeah well if you're too afraid
01:41:01.580 to like get in the game then you'll never do you know what i mean it's most people don't find
01:41:06.380 anyone if they don't date and a lot of times i find the people waiting especially if they're
01:41:11.340 older they're just checking out a dating they're like not doing it yeah i had sworn off men i was
01:41:16.940 like i'm not dating anybody i'm not doing anything would you recommend your daughters wait till
01:41:21.980 marriage if i i hope that for them i hope that they can have that one person and i don't know
01:41:34.640 if it's so much waiting for marriage it's it's waiting for that person that you are willing to
01:41:40.860 spend the rest of your life with and that you don't mind going through hard times with and
01:41:48.020 you're willing to fight for and you're willing to argue with and argue over as my husband put it the
01:41:55.500 other day and he goes I knew I loved you when I was willing to go to jail for you
01:41:58.780 he's like I didn't care if you were gonna go throw down with your mom or you're gonna throw
01:42:07.800 down with the guy down the street I was willing to go to jail for you yeah well you know I I would
01:42:14.800 recommend trying to at least put your daughters in situations with guys her age or maybe they're
01:42:21.840 a little young now but when they're like two three years because I don't see the married the the
01:42:28.640 people I've seen that got that their parents like waited or that waited and it worked out or at
01:42:34.880 least married young um you know what's smart and I didn't clock this in high school can they work
01:42:42.020 at like golf carts or golf girls over the summer because a lot of my friends met their husbands by
01:42:48.260 doing that right yeah in washington state if you work at a nice coffee stand yeah yeah in a nice
01:42:56.120 in like an upscale neighborhood come on now we live in branson's right now so there are so many
01:43:03.020 places here that they could be out and about but they also do a lot of things through church we go
01:43:08.580 out a lot um there's not a day that my 14 year old is going oh mom that guy is cute i'm like uh-huh
01:43:15.620 i know i see you and then you know i see the boy across the thing going i see you too okay she's
01:43:22.500 too young for you mr 16 year old but um they definitely are starting to kind of blossom into
01:43:30.020 yeah we are going to have to kind of let them start dating at 16 we can't hold them back but
01:43:35.060 But we're also not pushing them that I see a lot of kids their age being pushed into situations where they're like going, OK, I don't know how I feel or I'm not ready for this yet.
01:43:47.160 And that's what I meant is, you know, not everybody's ready for PG-14, you know, relationships at 13 or 14.
01:43:57.240 Some of them would be like, well, I'm ready now and I'm going on 15.
01:44:01.780 And that's OK.
01:44:02.860 yeah it's really one thing they don't talk enough about it's really dependent on the kid
01:44:06.940 like I have I'm one of um 10 so I mean I have siblings that at 15 they're ready to date and
01:44:12.680 I have ones that weren't ready to date till 20 like it was you know so yeah but my younger one
01:44:18.920 she's a lioness and she's just ready to go right now she's like I'm 12 and I want to date and I'm
01:44:24.300 like no no we're putting you on a leash you're dangerous all right you're gonna hurt somebody
01:44:30.220 Doug MPA, you got any other questions for her?
01:44:33.440 No, but Sarah's been supporting for a long time.
01:44:36.340 Thank you for calling.
01:44:37.500 Yeah, thanks for calling, Sarah.
01:44:38.980 It was so nice talking to you.
01:44:42.040 It was nice talking to you, too.
01:44:44.300 Call it anytime.
01:44:45.280 Give us an update.
01:44:46.820 All right.
01:44:47.160 I was getting black-filled.
01:44:48.540 I didn't think pleasant women existed anymore.
01:44:52.740 I try.
01:44:54.480 Thanks for calling in.
01:44:56.200 Thank you.
01:44:58.200 I'm just kidding, guys.
01:44:59.620 i'm not that black pilled there's like one all right let's go to
01:45:08.420 let's make sure to like the video subscribe please we really appreciate it thank you for
01:45:12.180 all the super chats really appreciate that carlos yes i'm here hey carlos how's it going
01:45:22.420 pretty good how about yourself good um remind me what's your age and are you married um
01:45:30.420 i'm 34 and i've been divorced for three years okay um so you're the the single dad
01:45:37.700 the kids yeah four kids yeah sorry i'm not the name sometimes but i remember voices um
01:45:46.020 so what have you seen when it comes to waiting till marriage did you do it um obviously your
01:45:52.100 relationship didn't work out but maybe you've seen other people and it work didn't work what
01:45:56.100 have you seen um i mean i haven't seen any of them work to be honest um it just uh unless the
01:46:05.540 only ones i've seen work um were like where people were married back in like maybe the 50s or 60s
01:46:11.780 and they're old now so it's um but we live in a different time now where it was something that
01:46:21.380 captivated me with one of the venues that you showed was the whole uh and all people always
01:46:27.380 want to say like oh because we found jesus type deal um yeah they may they may have found jesus but
01:46:36.020 do they read the bible do they know what it says um we see how like the divorce rates are out
01:46:43.280 like skyrocketing and i'm pretty much i think the one of the only things that jesus said about
01:46:50.360 marriage was like you can't divorce um the only grounds for divorce was adultery
01:46:56.320 but we see that that no one's looking at that even people that search so it's uh yeah it's very
01:47:04.640 it's very uh slippery ground when it comes to that situation have you ever dated a woman that
01:47:12.600 um tried to wait for marriage like she either waited or like did the re-wait thing and like
01:47:18.320 what was that experience like if so yeah i did i did um she uh she or i mean she told me she was
01:47:27.180 only she only had been with one guy she had got in a car accident and was in a coma and that um
01:47:32.840 so three sorry what was that i said so three yeah maybe i don't know and that's the thing you just
01:47:41.580 you don't know but with this with this person uh she told me she only been with one guy and that uh
01:47:47.140 her husband cheated on her when she was in a coma.
01:47:51.140 He didn't know if she was going to come out of it.
01:47:52.960 She came out of it and all this other stuff.
01:47:54.780 But, no, it's very hard to tell.
01:47:58.200 I mean, even for myself, I ask women.
01:48:00.920 I mean, I don't ask them before I sleep with them.
01:48:03.120 But I ask women afterwards, how many men have you been with?
01:48:07.540 And it's just because you don't know.
01:48:11.240 And I think the only way that you can really find out if this person is really a virgin
01:48:16.060 is if you do like a polygraph test and it's like that's like asking a woman to do a dna test
01:48:22.540 when you're having a baby it's going to be a sour subject and but at the end of the day
01:48:28.960 all relationships are a risk yeah you don't know what that person's going to do
01:48:32.620 yeah um so the girl that was so do you think um like would you be open to getting married again
01:48:40.800 yeah and something because i mean i'm like i said i'm a single father for kids
01:48:47.060 um like my social life is like shot it's just the truth so i know i use the dating websites
01:48:55.460 and stuff like that and um a lot of the women that i run into you know they have kids too
01:49:01.220 whatnot and i mean i wouldn't mind getting remarried it's just like you got to ask the
01:49:06.900 right questions like one question i ask and it's not right away but did you sleep did you cheat on
01:49:13.180 your husband like did you sleep with someone else and they're like well yes because he wasn't showing
01:49:18.100 me this he wasn't showing me that and all this other stuff i was like well couldn't you just
01:49:21.980 divorce them and then do something well so it's just like so i was just wondering if a girl asked
01:49:28.560 you to wait till marriage like if she she says she's a virgin would you consider waiting till
01:49:35.880 marriage i'm doing the polygraph test
01:49:38.900 seriously like no if a woman wants to pull that car she'll have no problem doing it
01:49:46.640 and you gotta make sure you gotta you gotta add in have you blown anybody finger it women do so
01:49:55.160 many no i'm telling you i'm telling you yeah there's so many things that you have to yeah
01:49:59.760 it's just not it's just not penetration like yeah i mean it's called oral sex for a reason
01:50:05.620 so yeah it's just yeah i don't know i just think i think about my kids
01:50:14.240 like it's uh i honestly for my kids i'm really and seriously thinking about doing like a range
01:50:21.580 marriage yeah i mean that's the it and even then i mean if they if the girls say no like there's
01:50:31.440 nothing that's stopping them no offense but there's nothing that's stopping them from downloading an
01:50:35.320 app and going crazy yeah and i'm just more worried about my daughter it's not my sons i'm gonna teach
01:50:40.700 my sons you know just just wait i mean you don't i mean you're i mean because technically young men
01:50:47.720 don't have really that much value they don't have jobs they don't have i mean they have a long way
01:50:53.360 to go till they get their value so but women um especially they're beautiful they i mean even
01:50:58.560 women that are beautiful or just average they have value they can access anybody that they want if
01:51:03.420 they wanted to so i know and it's um and i don't have as much control as they think like i'll hear
01:51:09.580 tate say like oh my daughter would never do that i'm like there's a lot of fathers that have said
01:51:13.820 that and you just once they're 18 you know yeah if um if um who's that mega pastor uh the black dude
01:51:23.420 uh whose daughter was a single mom uh uh and i'm just i'm one of 10 and so jakes yeah go ahead
01:51:31.260 t jake's daughter who was a total single mom like she literally wanted to rebel he was paying
01:51:36.700 attention to everyone but me so i got pregnant and became a single mom yeah exactly td jake's
01:51:42.780 daughter and i'm one of 10. so i've even seen how like different kids turn out so differently even
01:51:48.700 with the same exact parents like just different um i would say he's cooked but he's toast omg i
01:51:55.660 think he's talking about the last guy um but you know i wish you luck how old's your oldest kid
01:52:04.540 oh it's about to turn eight oh okay you got a little bit of time maybe they'll like invent
01:52:09.420 some solution by that i'll probably get i don't know i don't know yeah it's just uh i think things
01:52:15.820 are going to turn out worse as time goes on so we'll probably see naked people walking around
01:52:19.820 before we know it all right thanks for calling in absolutely that was funny guys are so funny
01:52:28.460 they think of everything we're gonna do polygraph test on the wrong person do polygraphs aren't
01:52:39.100 that like susceptible to do that like how accurate are they could you even know yeah
01:52:45.900 you you can be a professional polygrapher it's a whole thing it's a it's a whole industry
01:52:53.500 yep hey should drone you're on mute but you're up next should drone chudrone
01:53:03.740 Chedron you're on mute. Chedron you're on mute. Chedron going once. Chedron going twice.
01:53:14.460 Third time. I'll put you back in the waiting room. I'll try you back in a little bit.
01:53:22.780 Next up we have Sean. Sean's coming up.
01:53:26.380 sean are you there
01:53:32.780 sean
01:53:37.820 you sound really far away bud
01:53:41.660 hello okay sean's been on the show before so i know he does what he's doing
01:53:48.700 i'm gonna put him back it's actually kind of crazy waiting till marriage ensures you the worst
01:53:53.500 sex possible for men anyways like it's like you get the worst
01:54:02.220 yeah i would agree for sure let's let
01:54:10.540 we'll try jc you're up next
01:54:17.180 jc is connecting to audio guys like the stream if you haven't already subscribed
01:54:21.980 the channel all the super chats are appreciated we really appreciate it jc are you there
01:54:29.420 jc
01:54:32.460 jc are you there jc going once jc going twice jc going three times and you're back in the waiting
01:54:42.380 room next up we have jake jake is coming up next jake are you there uh i'm here
01:54:51.740 hey jake how's it going um great pearl uh hey um pearl i have a question for you
01:54:59.820 sure um is there anybody out there who waits um until marriage that is not religious
01:55:10.300 do i know anybody that i don't not that i know personally but i'm i'm sure uh no there might
01:55:18.620 I'd have been one person that came on my show that claimed they were,
01:55:23.020 they were like, they have a channel though. So I don't, I mean,
01:55:26.560 when the relationship's public, you kind of are like, you know,
01:55:31.160 there's incentives to not be overly honest, but there's one person,
01:55:34.220 I think they're not religious, but off, off the top of my head. No.
01:55:39.060 So have you found people do that aren't religious?
01:55:43.920 No, never. Yeah.
01:55:44.960 the the only people i've ever known who waited until marriage were religious that's it that's all
01:55:51.760 okay and how did it turn out for them uh to tell you the truth i don't even know because i've lost
01:55:59.360 touch with those people and i have no clue how their stories ended uh i do know people who uh
01:56:08.240 weren't religious and then became religious as adults and then can you know kind of conveniently
01:56:15.380 stopped having sex and met somebody and then waited till marriage
01:56:21.200 um most of those people turned out all right but i think that most of those people
01:56:27.860 actually had genuine faith and because they had genuine faith i think that they actually
01:56:33.600 were a part of good communities where there was accountability and there was shame like oh no if
01:56:39.060 i get divorced like how am i gonna face my friends and that sort of thing so how long are they have
01:56:49.060 they've been married now they have kids and stuff um i
01:56:55.720 uh the only example that's coming to mind us this specifically is my aunt and my step-uncle
01:57:10.100 um but they met and got married in their 40s and they they both had previous marriages
01:57:17.460 and grown children so they waited until marriage in their 40s
01:57:21.440 um no they were christians by the time i mean they were christians when they both got divorced
01:57:27.840 and then they got back out on the dating market they met and they got married pretty quickly
01:57:34.740 after meeting
01:57:35.760 does that make sense no it does doug mpa do you have any questions for him
01:57:42.780 i do not well thanks for calling in i appreciate the insights
01:57:51.440 have a good one buddy call anytime yeah please do i sent this to to my um i don't want to say
01:58:00.860 who but someone i know that's dated a lot of christian girls i'll say oh he said if i get a
01:58:06.360 break i will okay accidentally removed a killing accident that was my fault sorry about that that
01:58:14.200 was a misclick sorry i'm unable to join the meeting for some reason well that was the guy
01:58:20.080 that we had earlier that was asking about the clipper thing i accidentally clicked on it sorry
01:58:26.240 about that um okay we'll let in donnie because he's always really really quick
01:58:39.040 hey what's up doug what's up pearl hey donnie how's it going i'm surviving so what's your
01:58:47.040 thought on the topic do you know anybody that's waited for marriage um how did it turn out for
01:58:51.380 them or you if you did it well i'm not married but i didn't wait for marriage uh
01:58:58.460 i mean i i used to believe in the whole purity culture stuff if you've ever grown up being
01:59:07.000 raised by a single mom and you watch mari enough times you're gonna look at that and realize
01:59:13.500 wow it's not a good thing to have children out of wedlock but the thing was
01:59:20.180 eventually it became kind of a cope because if you're not really desired by the opposite gender
01:59:29.060 it really doesn't matter and the thing is as i got older i became more secular actually dating
01:59:36.900 people attraction and dating really is amoral even people who claim to value certain values
01:59:46.180 they'll abandon them when they see someone they're attracted to yeah like you know the
01:59:51.660 100 true like you know people like jeremy meeks and these other pretty boy bad boys you know
01:59:58.440 there are women who say oh yeah i'd never date someone like that i'd never give money to someone
02:00:03.980 like that it's like if a guy is good looking enough he can murder children and do the cruelest
02:00:10.460 evilest loser as and women even christian women will love them but the opposite is also true
02:00:19.180 yeah a man can literally research a cure for cancer feed starving children i'm gonna sorry
02:00:28.540 i went to community college with a girl who's um who who was met her parents were married but then
02:00:36.540 they were in the church i don't know why i didn't think of this until now and the mother would join
02:00:42.780 that program where like christians would go into prisons and like preach you know and proselytize
02:00:48.940 and like try to preach the word to prisoners and yeah baby with a prisoner and got pregnant with
02:00:57.580 her and had her and it like destroyed the family conceived so she was literally living like
02:01:05.580 living with the shame of her mother you know breaking up their christian household because
02:01:10.780 they had like the three other kids so she was number four and the mother cheated on the husband
02:01:19.100 with a freaking a prisoner and had her it broke the family up yeah damn she was she was living
02:01:25.180 with that isn't that crazy that's jerry springer meets oz messed up you know out of the prison show
02:01:34.060 uh but anyway uh i'll be quick uh i i know some christian virgin do friends of mine like
02:01:41.340 even though i'm an atheist i still keep up with them and some of them are are virgins waiting
02:01:47.260 for marriage and it may or may not happen but it's more so because they're some of them are just too
02:01:53.740 scared to even talk to women i mean i don't deny christian women are messed up but a lot of my
02:02:01.340 christian virgin friends they never really learned how to actually date it's like church told them
02:02:09.020 everything about how to be a good husband but never how to you know ask the girl out see if
02:02:15.420 she's actually into you i know i know men have wasted years in the friends on it's like look
02:02:21.820 get the yes or the no early if you can try to sleep with someone
02:02:26.860 at the very least, go for the kiss.
02:02:28.700 But you don't do yourself any favors with all this needless waiting.
02:02:34.780 Well, it's like it's almost like making failure of virtue
02:02:38.620 because you're feeling your burden of performance as a guy.
02:02:42.620 Like because I'm sorry, real quick before I go,
02:02:46.940 it seems like a lot of the burden of performance material.
02:02:50.580 it comes from rollo tomasi and uh richard cooper stuff don't take this the wrong way but i really
02:02:56.740 hate those guys because they seemed righteous when they started but it's like they
02:03:02.980 shill this false narrative that as men get older we become more valuable like no most men when they
02:03:09.620 hit 30 35 they're not rocking it like boomhower or or uh john red corn most men turn into bill
02:03:18.980 dough tree fat balding broke if you're not building up those early wins if you're not having
02:03:25.540 early successful women building healthy relationships if you're stagnating and getting
02:03:31.460 older you're not going to age like fine wine wine doesn't even get better in real life it usually
02:03:36.980 just gets better but that's enough for me i know you guys got a busy line so i gotta go
02:03:41.860 love the show doug love uh but love the show pearl later thanks for calling in
02:03:46.420 good to see you buddy cool next thing roll is gonna do like a five-hour stream
02:03:54.580 you know that's coming he's like pearl said my name
02:04:00.500 she used to keep her name out of my mouth he'll say he'll say don't talk about me and he does a
02:04:06.500 three-hour stream yeah exactly that's what i'd say he's gonna say she used to keep my name out of her
02:04:10.980 mouth and then talk to you and then talk about you for seven hours seven i'm like you're a crazy man
02:04:17.140 next up we have francois francois audio is connecting we have the 361 likes 537 people
02:04:28.580 so keep smashing that like button we'd really appreciate that francois audio is connecting
02:04:34.900 we're going to give it i think too men that get a lot of girls in a certain social environment
02:04:41.540 but don't have the skills like graduate out i've seen that happen where guys are like in a frat
02:04:48.420 or in some place where getting women is kind of easy or like they're on a team or something but
02:04:54.100 then when they like enter the workforce or something they haven't they don't have any skill
02:04:59.300 because it was just like the right guy at the right time have you seen that doug mpa yeah 100
02:05:05.700 that's why you know a lot of um yeah a lot of high school football players playing out in high school
02:05:12.980 or they're popular in college and stuff yeah that doesn't transfer that um that doesn't transfer out
02:05:18.420 to the real world a lot of the times i agree 100 yeah what's up doug mpa hey are you there
02:05:24.900 i'm good oh what's going on bird hey um so what are your thoughts on the topic have you seen
02:05:32.900 anybody that's waited till marriage did it work out or did it not work out
02:05:39.060 hell no it never worked out i'm gonna be very very particular here on this call right so
02:05:47.220 So I don't want to sound right well, but I got to say, guys, be very, very pushy about clapping these cheeks earlier.
02:06:00.080 Because the more you clap them cheeks, the better you become later on.
02:06:05.600 Now, now, now, I got to say, for some of the guys out there that are, you know, religious, right?
02:06:12.680 I understand that you cannot break your customs.
02:06:15.860 You cannot infringe to your beliefs, so you probably won't go in there
02:06:23.420 and try to break it and make it loose a little bit, so you can wait.
02:06:28.800 But the more you wait, the harder it becomes for you to adjust, right?
02:06:36.700 I'm not going to refer to some of the guys out there, but they are 100% on point.
02:06:42.080 if guys are not trained
02:06:44.820 to know exactly what it is
02:06:46.740 with the females
02:06:47.500 they're going to mess it up
02:06:49.340 because they're going to get played
02:06:50.940 also for the females
02:06:53.120 if I have a sister
02:06:55.140 I really don't want to be out
02:06:57.400 I don't want her to be out there
02:06:59.200 and getting slammed by these guys
02:07:00.920 so I want to protect her
02:07:02.920 I really want to protect her
02:07:04.780 but I can't
02:07:05.860 she cannot be out there too
02:07:08.680 trying to learn
02:07:11.020 about these guys and not be able to to uh to be available at the same time because she's gotta
02:07:17.200 find the good guys so she has to be also you know uh uh wise you know street she gotta be street
02:07:24.180 wise and book wise right smart so street street smart and and and book smart cool so right so i
02:07:32.340 don't want her to to to to to be you know you know you know uh taking advantage too especially if
02:07:39.400 She's a Christian, so I think she also needs to wait.
02:07:43.500 But the fact is, to close this bottom line, is we are in the 21st century.
02:07:51.020 Our father and mother relationship is not the same as they used to be.
02:07:55.760 Now, they will lie to you, just like the guys earlier.
02:08:00.080 I don't know if his name was Will and everybody else.
02:08:03.100 You need to have a lie detector, buddy.
02:08:05.820 you need to have a lie detective
02:08:08.220 because you're going to ask her
02:08:09.680 did you break it loose earlier
02:08:12.160 before I got here
02:08:14.000 she's probably going to say no
02:08:15.840 yeah you're going to get
02:08:18.260 played everybody is
02:08:20.320 out there having fun
02:08:22.180 alright well thanks for calling in
02:08:24.180 okay
02:08:24.540 alright
02:08:26.300 the audio is just not great
02:08:30.220 yeah it was giving me a headache
02:08:32.620 sorry man
02:08:33.900 that's why you your audio was just too bad sorry okay sean i tried to bring you up before
02:08:42.000 i'll bring you up again so you better sean are you there uh yeah i'm here can you hear me hey
02:08:50.500 hey sean how's it going it's going well so what are your thoughts on the topic do you know anybody
02:08:56.960 that waited till marriage and how did it work out uh yeah i mean the only ones that i know who waited
02:09:04.080 till marriage were usually like a christian background but they came from like an eastern
02:09:07.920 culture that is very like low percentage demographics here in the u.s so it's a little
02:09:13.120 bit harder to meet people and the ones that i know that got married they got married in their 30s to
02:09:17.600 guys who they didn't really find that attractive but maybe financially are where they want them to
02:09:22.880 to be so it is kind of a beta sort of relationship that they kind of have with them but those sorts
02:09:29.640 of marriages are more pragmatic and more value exchanges than they are about love so if that's
02:09:35.120 your expectation for a marriage then i guess it worked out well uh but if you're looking for more
02:09:40.220 of the eurocentric sort of love-based marriage uh no i've literally never seen that okay um
02:09:48.880 and are they still married uh yeah i mean they're still married i mean the cultural background that
02:09:55.780 these folks come from like basically everyone stays married uh but they kind of stay miserably
02:10:00.560 married if that makes sense so like you know 20 years into that marriage it's no different from
02:10:03.960 a love-based marriage and how long the couples are you thinking of how long have they been married
02:10:08.860 uh so far they've been married for at least they're around my age so they've been married
02:10:14.060 for about three years so not that long okay so we'll see uh yeah um yeah i mean you get a better
02:10:20.660 idea like it's like i kind of put 10 20 so like 10 maybe 20 then it's like i think if you make
02:10:28.120 it to 20 you're most likely going to make it it's either 20 or 25 go ahead sorry yeah i was gonna
02:10:33.640 say like the cultural family background that they come from it's more of a collectivist mindset so
02:10:37.320 marriage is not really about your personal happiness it's about more family ties and
02:10:41.000 things like that. So it's more of a shame-based culture, a lot of social stigma. So everyone in
02:10:45.240 your family's married. So like, if you're the first one to break that, it looks really bad.
02:10:49.420 And you're going to be sort of ostracized from your community. So more than likely,
02:10:53.480 they will stay together. You know, everyone in their families are all, you know, continuously
02:10:57.800 married. But it's not necessarily like a very happy, loving marriage, right? It's just marriage
02:11:03.640 in general, right? So that's really what you kind of see. But yeah, sort of, you know, where I have
02:11:10.620 seen like other folks who, I guess, you know, more to the topic of virginity specifically,
02:11:15.340 like I've seen the smart girls that I've seen like on the Christian side, they get married young
02:11:19.360 and they leverage their capital as a young, fertile virgin to seek a, you know, a very
02:11:25.520 financially rewarding guy. So to speak, like I knew this one girl at my office, she would go
02:11:30.400 every single lunch period to the local hospital and sit down in their cafeteria, hoping to meet
02:11:35.720 a surgeon and eventually she came back six months later married to a not so attractive looking guy
02:11:41.400 but he made a lot of money uh so like the smart ones know to capitalize their beauty and youth
02:11:46.760 and fertility when they're young uh but whenever like i would meet girls that are like phds that
02:11:52.360 are in their late 20s that are virgins usually they're like trying to use it as a kind of like
02:11:58.440 brokering a relationship on like sort of terms that they want they think it's like a some sort
02:12:03.640 of valuable power that they have which i just find ridiculous like if you're past 25 and you're still
02:12:09.240 a virgin to your point pearl like there's something usually wrong with you like either
02:12:13.160 you're sexually repressed in a very negative way or you know you're trying to get a one-up on a guy
02:12:19.800 by saying hey i'm a virgin by the way so i'm somehow better than these other girls which is
02:12:23.960 in my opinion it's ridiculous i'd say it's time to start i'd say it's time to start you know
02:12:28.680 know i just i'll get you further than that car like after 25 it's time ladies it's time for
02:12:35.920 your whole phase it's time to start fucking on the first date i mean i didn't say with everybody
02:12:43.460 but you know i gotta if she's a virgin or late 20s there's no way she won't take some l's so
02:12:48.760 it's just gonna yeah go ahead i mean yeah i was gonna say to be honest i don't think most guys
02:12:53.820 like in today's day and age necessarily care if the girls are virgin i think they just care if
02:12:58.340 girl is very selective in who they will be with and very long-term minded so if they're screwing
02:13:04.820 losers and f boys i think that really kind of ticks off a lot of guys to be like number 10 or
02:13:09.700 number 15 but if they've only like you know been with let's say two three guys and these were like
02:13:15.140 hard-working guys but for whatever reason it didn't work out with them but they are long-term
02:13:20.900 minded like these are long-term relationships not situationships not friends with benefits
02:13:25.700 or things like that i don't think most guys care but usually the girls that guys are running into
02:13:30.820 these days are doing a lot of nonsense and running it up until 30. yeah but if she's hot if she's a
02:13:36.180 mid if she's hot like she might have a hundred percent relationship rate but like because that's
02:13:42.260 another way they'll get you guys is they like expand how long they dated somebody
02:13:48.500 that's true and they don't tell you about the l like if you're a mid like you're gonna take some
02:13:53.060 else like you know what i mean like if you're beautiful then you won't but yeah and or you'll
02:13:58.820 take longer they can take l's and they can always maneuver it because women will all they can always
02:14:06.420 tell the female friendly version of any l where they're that or just pretend it didn't exist in
02:14:12.340 the same story like if a girl downloads tinder and even if she wants a relationship you know
02:14:18.660 he sleeps with a guy a few times he doesn't call her back she could just pretend it didn't happen
02:14:23.060 yeah or she can call him a narcissist that women come up but that's that's why some of the these
02:14:32.660 churches just leave these women like i'm like they're never if they're not super hot that
02:14:38.520 strategy is not gonna work i mean hot girls can get away with fucking murder but that's true but
02:14:44.240 i would say it's more of an economic situation given that like most of the country's kind of
02:14:48.520 overweight or obese or not really taking care of themselves it's almost like the more attractive
02:14:53.220 girls know they have more power they can get away with more shit oh yeah that wouldn't be tolerated
02:14:58.360 in countries that have a you know normal bmi that you'll see on the other side of the world right
02:15:02.760 whether it's in europe or asia etc so it's almost like it's giving a lot of the more attractive
02:15:09.660 girls way more leverage and if you're a guy and you work really hard all your life trying to settle
02:15:14.140 for a below average girl an overweight girl it's like a total middle finger to you for like all
02:15:18.220 your hard work so i don't fault a lot of guys for going for kind of the hot girls who maybe you know
02:15:23.840 they've kind of run the field a little bit because like if you are going to be with one girl presumably
02:15:28.320 for the rest of your life probably not but for whatever period of time at last you know you you
02:15:32.940 want an attractive girl for all the hard work you've done so i don't necessarily blame those
02:15:36.700 guys i don't either if i was a guy i would just go for the hottest girl i'm hypergamous so i would
02:15:41.780 just go for the hottest girl possible if i was a guy because she's gonna leave the mids are leaving
02:15:47.000 too you might as well just get a hot chick that's true you know i've seen a lot of like quote-unquote
02:15:52.820 loyal girls that are not necessarily the most active they're like out of their marriages now
02:15:56.820 that they've had their two kids they're seven years in uh so like if you are going to get
02:16:00.780 divorced you might as well you know rent the ferrari and not the corolla right if that makes
02:16:06.300 sense plus plus you can just show you can have a public picture of your ex that was really hot and
02:16:12.160 then all the new then you can get hotter girls that is true like girls will see like your
02:16:17.560 instagram or your fast photos and if they view like that girl as much hotter than like what they
02:16:22.620 are like that'll instantly make them message you a lot more compared to like if you have like a 300
02:16:27.860 pound ex-girlfriend like you're not going to get anything yeah totally cool well thanks for calling
02:16:33.320 in absolutely thanks guys have a good one okay next up brad has been waiting for a while he's
02:16:42.840 always a good call let's like the video subscribe if you haven't already share the video and thank
02:16:48.520 you for all the super chats we really appreciate it you guys have been super chatting a whole lot
02:16:53.320 and all the super chats are appreciated brad are you there yes i am can you hear me brad are you um
02:17:00.840 um, I use your name for like one of the Chad archetypes. Yeah, I know. And when I was coming
02:17:10.180 up in my early years, uh, I was kind of a Brad in, in training, so to speak. I mean, I never,
02:17:16.520 I, if you ask if I know anybody who held out, uh, I was a virgin until I was 21 and I lost my
02:17:25.200 virginity to the woman I married. And that was over 40 years ago. So yeah, I know somebody.
02:17:32.980 Well, it worked out. I talked to you last week. I'm the guy that was married for 36 years. My
02:17:38.760 wife kicked me to the curb because she felt she could do better on her own after I provided what
02:17:47.480 I could up until that time. So I didn't know that was going to end up that way. And I've learned a
02:17:54.620 lot about women's thinking from listening to people like you and a number of other people
02:18:00.400 who've got podcasts on YouTube about the way women think. And it has revealed a lot. But
02:18:09.460 as far as this not waiting till marriage, I've seen in my years, a big difference between say
02:18:17.960 the 60s and 70s and what the attitudes were. I had a friend in high school that he was kind of
02:18:26.000 like the real person that you'd call a Chad or a Brad or a Tyrone. I mean, he'd see a girl and
02:18:32.280 he was smooth. He knew what would give him an opportunity to get them alone and then he'd make
02:18:39.420 a move on them. And there was still that on the girl's side of it, that feeling that she needed
02:18:45.440 to express a certain amount of reluctance um no i don't uh not now that kind of thing which
02:18:51.600 i don't think you really see that much yeah i hear you laughing but you know i mean it's true
02:18:58.240 right yeah i mean with girls brag you see them on on i don't watch tick tock except for what shows
02:19:04.160 up from tick tock on youtube but you see them bragging in street interviews about you know
02:19:08.880 all the guys they've been with just since yesterday and oh my goodness i mean we used
02:19:14.320 to get called down by girls in high school uh just because our language was common oh that's common
02:19:21.440 you know garage talk gutter talk sex talk you know just oh that's just so nasty it's a whole
02:19:27.280 different world now um i mean i still from a moral perspective um i don't see where you know if i set
02:19:36.480 religion aside i'm not so sure that i see the point about you know sleeping with with girls
02:19:42.160 sleeping with women um as as a like a preliminary step as if that somehow gave you an edge because
02:19:48.800 i think we've admitted that there's such a level of deception when you're engaging with a woman
02:19:55.840 what she pretends to be that whether it's the speech or her actions and she pretends to be this
02:20:01.360 person or whether she sleeps with you makes you think i'm going to be getting great sex
02:20:06.480 um there's no guarantee that you're actually getting reality and i can't complain because
02:20:11.680 Even though I was a virgin, my wife was not.
02:20:14.620 And I knew she wasn't because I knew she'd been living with a guy at his family's home as his live-in girlfriend and that they were intimate before we got together.
02:20:26.340 But I did not know how much of a party girl she was secretly behind the scenes, you know, sneaking off during classes to go meet up with a guy and get it on at his parents' place while they were at work.
02:20:40.600 and things like that until after we'd been married for years and the sex was fine.
02:20:45.100 I got plenty of it for more than three decades and I never had any complaints about the quality.
02:20:51.640 So, you know, this idea of everything's individual, but the idea that you got to test drive the car
02:20:57.920 and on all that, I think the problem is the flip side of the coin doesn't necessarily get you
02:21:02.600 anything or guarantee anything any better. You know, some of it's generational. I realized I'm
02:21:08.980 an old fart. I mean, I'm one of the two guys in the balcony in the Muppets. I don't know if you
02:21:13.240 guys are familiar with those. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Doug, you're a little closer
02:21:18.280 to me. What did they say when the church burned down? Holy smokes. Remember those two guys?
02:21:24.780 Yeah, the two old cranky old guys in the Muppets and they're up in the balcony and they're always
02:21:29.620 heckling, you know, whatever's going on. And I've turned into one of those old heckling guys.
02:21:34.800 but i mean i'm thankful to a degree that i'm not my kids age in their 30s or or my son's about to
02:21:42.400 turn 40 next year um and in a position to where you know they're trying to make a decision as far
02:21:47.680 as wait or don't wait or do i sleep with this girl or don't i sleep with this girl we were
02:21:52.020 primarily worried back in the day about stds and about unwanted pregnancies because you got to
02:21:58.620 realize nobody would bat an eye now if a young guy walks into a store goes over to walmart to the
02:22:03.660 section and buys themselves some condoms or whatever. But back in the day, we're talking
02:22:08.360 40, 50 years ago, that was a whole different story. And you didn't have like Amazon and places
02:22:13.560 where you could order it and have it mailed to you and nobody knew. Sorry? No, I said like
02:22:20.400 privately. Yeah, I was just, yeah. Yeah. You don't have, you didn't have the privacy back then.
02:22:25.200 And it was a whole nother thing. It's like I said, even the girls, if you just started talking
02:22:29.240 something that had innuendo or a double entendre, you know, the polite words for sex talk, they
02:22:36.040 were like, oh, God, you're always so common.
02:22:38.140 You guys, boys are nasty.
02:22:39.620 Yeah.
02:22:40.360 Or back in the day, if a woman got pregnant in high school, she'd just disappear.
02:22:47.200 Yeah.
02:22:47.500 I had a girl in my English class when I was in my senior year of high school, and I think
02:22:52.940 she wound up like five months or so along before she then finally disappeared.
02:22:59.240 but it was like you know it was like a school scandal i mean and i'm not in the 50s so we're
02:23:03.800 not talking about leave it to beaverville but even in the 70s in spite of the sexual revolution and
02:23:08.520 the summer of 69 and the year the summer free love and and everything else it's still it was
02:23:15.320 it's this is a very different world and i think unless you're an old fart like me and you've
02:23:20.200 physically seen the difference the way things are are all anybody's ever known so it seems normal
02:23:26.600 out of the couples you know back then are how old are you if you don't mind me asking um i will say
02:23:33.000 i'm in my early to mid 60s do you know any couples that are still married well my folks have been
02:23:39.880 married they're in their 80s sorry i meant from your like graduating class from my graduating
02:23:45.320 class yeah i i actually do um in fact um every once in a while i still have some connections
02:23:51.160 with some of them my high school graduating class actually linked up a number of people
02:23:55.720 who linked up with other people who connected other people as suggested friends on facebook
02:24:00.760 and so i still see regularly what's going on with a lot of my classmates and i'm amazed that i know
02:24:06.840 of at least two couples that were like the hot couples dating in high school and they're still
02:24:12.600 married oh they're and they post stuff of activities they do together and everything
02:24:16.680 cool yeah i mean it kind of it's women that get the chads and their social group i've kind of seen
02:24:23.240 like i i that's just that i've noticed they stay married longer yeah i was a romantic um i had
02:24:31.080 opportunities to you know to to get with and to smash and i turned them down some and you know
02:24:38.040 it wasn't that they were weren't attractive it's just you know to me my thinking back in the day
02:24:44.440 was if they're that available for that um you know i first of all i don't want to get a girl pregnant
02:24:50.680 Because there were too many potential stories of people who knew people were, you know, the girl got pregnant and they had to get married because of the baby and then they couldn't stand each other.
02:25:00.340 And I didn't want to wind up in that situation.
02:25:02.660 And then the other thing was the concern that, you know, she's if she's going to have sex with you, don't think you're so special that you're you're the only one she's willing to have sex with or is having sex with.
02:25:15.420 Yeah. So, you know, while I was in high school and in my very early 20s, before I got married, my concern was if she was too flirty and too hinted too much at the idea, hey, I'll sleep with you.
02:25:28.940 I was like, no, I don't want that. I want a relationship. So I really wanted to date somebody and have a relationship first.
02:25:34.800 So I wound up with my basically my childhood sweetheart. We met when I was 13 and she was 11 and we continued to kind of connect off and on through the years.
02:25:46.200 And as adults, I saw her and met her again, and we had a conversation going.
02:25:51.600 And she asked me out.
02:25:53.420 And we went on a couple of dates, and I went to visit her.
02:25:56.240 She was still living with her parents, visited her parents' home for a number of dates, and then we went out together.
02:26:02.000 And, you know, we did some petting and some light stuff, but we didn't get into any oral sex.
02:26:06.560 We didn't get into any actual intercourse or any of that until after we were married.
02:26:10.640 In fact, I married her.
02:26:11.580 She was on her period.
02:26:12.340 So we had to wait for the honeymoon.
02:26:15.420 so anyway that's that's a different side of things yeah hopefully that's of some use cool
02:26:22.880 well thanks for calling in um calling anytime and yeah i appreciate the insight so thank you
02:26:29.040 all righty y'all have a good one you too we have we said to have to take one one more person
02:26:34.660 because he's waiting so socal lowbrow be nice this guy makes me want to chop my ear off and
02:26:42.460 move to the south of france in fact in fact i'm bringing him up this conversation's making me go
02:26:48.200 to ketchum idaho all right okay where you at buddy you're on cal so cal you're on me buddy
02:26:57.080 you're on the show mr super chatty caddy so cal are you there
02:27:05.580 socal going once socal going twice socal going three times and it is time to wrap the show up
02:27:16.600 because i am tired yeah i'm getting sleepy this is a great show though this is a really cool
02:27:21.240 conversation yeah and we still have one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve
02:27:27.180 maybe we could do a part two a different day yeah this is a good conversation i was i was hoping to
02:27:33.120 have someone that it worked out for i during the show i looked up the the woman who like i said
02:27:39.620 she like got married young and she's still married so i think she's i'm 28 i think she was 22 so six
02:27:47.400 years now guess we'll see how it turns out yeah that's all we can do she seemed they seem happy
02:27:56.400 though yeah i just wouldn't um i i wouldn't recommend to i don't have any kids but i wouldn't
02:28:03.600 recommend a daughter or a son to to wait till marriage no way in this current market heck no
02:28:09.280 no sorry if you're gonna recommend your kid find the husband like that that's what if you're gonna
02:28:15.280 recommend your daughter does that find the guy but remember at 18 it's her choice so if she wants to
02:28:21.280 download tinder you know you can't really stop it um all right so
02:28:31.680 any other final thoughts doug mpa nope that's it well guys um thank you so much for watching
02:28:40.160 this show and please let me know in the comments i love getting your personal experiences because
02:28:45.360 you find out more um from people's personal experiences in my opinion so if you have a
02:28:53.920 personal experience on the topic put it in the comments did you wait did it work out for you yes
02:28:58.000 or no and let me know why i like the