Pearl - April 25, 2025
Exposing the 2025 Online Business SCAMS! w⧸ @ShivAiyar
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Summary
In this episode of the sit down, I have my good friend, Shiv, on the show to talk about his experience living in the country. We talk about what it's like to live in the city vs the country, the pros and the cons of living in San Francisco, and how to balance it all.
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what up guys welcome to another episode of the sit down here on the audacity network
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today i have my funnels guy shiv on the show welcome welcome he's been here all week how
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have you enjoyed the davis compound it's so good yeah yeah this is like the greatest place ever i'm
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not gonna spoil how amazing this experience has been but it's no tell him my dad will be excited
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oh yeah no just everything about it is so cool like even just the little things like i've never
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been to culver's and like you show me like what to order there that chicken sandwich is incredible
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and just the little things like um i'm definitely now gonna buy a fridge dedicated to just water
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bottles that's such a like life hack no it's like every little that's been my whole life i didn't
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know people didn't have bridges yeah well my main fridge in my kitchen's full of water yeah but i'm
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like oh the separate fridge is like that's like a whole and it's got to be full size exactly so that
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way you don't have to fill it because the little mini fridges you got to refill it every week then
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i might as well just go fill up no no i need i need like a big fridge i need it in my office like
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my second bedroom in my apartment so that is a pro tip everyone pro tip how does it compare to
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san francisco that's where you're at right to put in perspective how the size difference like
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my apartment is like 1200 square feet and it's considered big in san francisco like especially the
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location and if you were to buy it's like 2.8 million bucks right like here it's like it's
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i mean am i allowed to say there's a indoor basketball court here yeah yeah like just just
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to put in perspective like there's a mother king basketball court and a bowling alley like it's just
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such a different level of scale and and then this is just like the side house yeah so it's it's crazy
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my dad's a genius isn't he he's a yeah yeah he designed the whole thing i'm gonna glaze him so hard
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when i meet him later yeah how do you like like the country versus the city i i kind of like it
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but i think for me it's like i've lived into the city whether it's bangalore city in india whether
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it's uh the heart of san diego you know where i lived in la jolla or san francisco so i i really
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like it honestly i think just little things like the fact when you drive there's not you're not stuck
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in traffic every time so it's cool i mean there's things i miss like definitely in san francisco
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everything's like a 30 second walk so that's a little weird like oh you know anytime i want to
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do something i'm like oh i have to like either walk 30 40 50 minutes or i have to drive there
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um but no it's cool i like it i almost think it's faster in the country because there's no traffic
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right so like by the time you walk to every like you have to go down the like because i lived in
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downtown london so you have to go down the apartment then you have to go wait in line but
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here like if you want to go to culver's like i think you go there and back faster than you'd walk
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somewhere you're in san francisco is a little different because san francisco is so tiny okay
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so san francisco is only seven miles by seven miles the whole city oh wow so it's really like
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everything's like a 10 minute walk oh okay so in that case and then it's also good because i end up
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just getting a lot of fitness like i average like 20 000 steps a day 20k steps a day wow so that's been
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good i get like none here i've definitely gained weight being here i will say so yeah because you
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don't have to leave right i never leave yeah why would you why would you also uh you cook really
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good rice so thank you yeah get that on camera everybody no i will say the rice was incredible
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yeah and as an asian i know my rice you know i know my rice so like people fight me on the
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no i know my rice was great so okay tell me about did you grow up in india and then you came here or
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no so i had it kind of backwards i was born there's no accent so yeah um i was i was born in anaheim
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california so near disneyland um and then kind of lived in california most of my life my mom
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so my parents did immigrate here a long time ago uh but my mom went to caltech like uc irvine caltech
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got a phd got a postdoc um and so because of that whole situation i mean even my parents are like
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very very american like they own a house in san diego um they still to this day even though they
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they did move back to india but they still pay u.s taxes and everything but um but yeah so it was the
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2008 financial crisis that basically it was a combination of a lot of things uh my parents uh my
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grandparents were getting sick uh and then you know they lost a lot of money in the stock market
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and they just said you know if we go to india we could save a lot more money and we could have a
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way better lifestyle um which is true so we when i was 15 i did high school in india which was very
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weird because like whoa so you at 15 you went back to india yeah what that was a it was an what part
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were you in so bangalore so south india okay and so is it because i'm just thinking like i had a
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culture shock when i went there like it's so dirty and crowded it's very crowded very polluted it makes if
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you think la is polluted bangalore takes it to a whole no i've never seen so much trash it's insane
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it's absolutely insane now granted like where my parents live is like this gated neighborhood that's
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what i was wondering yeah it was like better yeah so like in my neighborhood there are like
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similar things like there is an indoor basketball court there are tennis court it's like for the
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neighborhood not in my house but like um and like the streets are very nice so my neighborhood
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would look right out of a magazine of like a very nice beverly hills type neighborhood and
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and but the weird part is when you leave the neighborhood it's like auschwitz or something
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like you're like what happened yeah so that was weird i honestly i think though like india was
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really hard academically it was hard i was a straight a student in middle school or like
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very close to it it was harder in india oh really a million times harder no way so like
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i think in ninth grade i think in america you do like algebra two or something there you're doing like
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linear algebra and like calculus three or four right out of nine so like the standards are way higher
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but the problem too is they don't explain to in india the whole uh way they teach you stuff is they
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just say memorize it they don't ever want to explain why it is because they they kind of think like
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that's like an american thing like so i would get made fun of i'd be like can you like derive the
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formula can you explain why that is and they'd be like oh americans always want to know why something
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is you know so that was very hard for me because to me i'm very i've always been kind of a rebel i've
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always been like unless i know why i'm not gonna do it so i went from like a straight a student to
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like you know c's and d's in india so that part sucked do you feel like their school system is
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more efficient though like what do you think prepares you more for the real world american or
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india school that's a hot so i i think what america does great is america already america allows
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the top five percent of students like because it's so lax and creative it allows like all these
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innovators and inventors and creative types so in india you don't get a lot of that but
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i think on average i would i argue on average my class is probably doing better than an average
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american like my average class is probably you know making 150k to 250k you're working at google
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apple facebook they're all engineers they're all doctors and that's that's the culture there like you
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do there's only three jobs you can do if you live in south india and you have some level of money
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um it's it's you're either a doctor engineer um or a lawyer and so how does that tie in like when
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you graduated like oh you know i'm curious the cat is there still a caste system there so how prevalent
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is it so yeah like um it's it's a little weird because like i remember when i learned the caste system
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i was like 12 and i remember i came home like crying to my parents because i thought we were like
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the bottom cast untouchables okay i said we're brahmins but i'm like how are we brahmins because like
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we what does that mean i don't know brahman's like the top cast but it means but it's it's so
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the caste system is kind of a psyop i think the caste system was created in india by entrepreneurs
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because the top cast is what's called brahmins which is teachers so it just means that you're
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educated but the the secret is like the third caste which i i can't believe i'm blanking on the name but
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like the third caste is the business class so all those people are like super rich in india so like
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the top caste is actually not this very middle how many are they are there there's like five or six and is
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it still that my dad said that because they used to have a company he is a company in india or he
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did you can only marry one up or one down and i he told me that he had an employee that was like
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a little bit darker so she had to marry down i don't know if that's true no so no no in fact in fact
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this is this is gonna be funny for people to know so in india like here americans always try to tan
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there's like spray tans yeah i remember i would like even back then i my family would be like you're
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too dark you're like and so there's this thing called like fair and lovely like shampoo and body
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wash i'll make your skin lighter apparently something in pomegranates makes your skin lighter
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like so so in india it's like all about being light skin which is really bizarre because then i'm like
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why did you let the british leave like if you're so obsessed with white skin right like that's all the
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white people get out of here yeah wait a minute but you all yeah so if you look at even like bollywood
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movies it's always the light skin actors you kind of get prevalence um i think that's kind of going a
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little bit away now but yeah i i do in india the one thing about asian countries is they don't even
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know what they're saying would be considered racist here like it's just cultural like being like oh
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you're too dark-skinned be lighter uh you know or um yeah like the caste system i think is more like
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you said it's a little bit more loose now but it there i think it kind of makes sense because i think
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the point is if you marry someone too much in abject poverty it's not really them that's the problem
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it's not the girl who's in object poverty it's like now her entire family they all kind of expect
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handouts so i think it's more of that that in india there's such extreme poverty and such extreme
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wealth and my parents kind of landed i would say in the upper middle um so in india if you make over
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40 000 us a year you're in the one percent so my parents weren't making that they were making like
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80 grand a year so it was like so what cast or were you guys in we're brahmin we're the top cast
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apparently oh so you're you're the number one draft so are you like royalty in india in india
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kind of but well so were you were all the girls were all the girls like fanning over you in high
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school oh absolutely not but you're in the top cast that's not how it works it's not how it works
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because it's it's um india just has a lot of like you don't there's maybe like two kids who had
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girlfriends in high school almost everyone in india doesn't even think about dating is just not a
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thing you do in high school so there's like arranged marriages there right oh yeah and my
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parents were but they have a great marriage like they're honest to god i look at my parents marriage
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and like i've hung out with a lot of other people in america and i go i think my parents
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marriage ranks way higher than most and like it wasn't anything bad but to be fair my parents are
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like the greatest roommates of all time i don't see i don't think it's like a hollywood love story
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but yeah a lot of people arrange marriage but it's not what people think it's not like my it's not
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like my parents like and if you're a lower caste in india sometimes you meet your spouse like on
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your wedding day you don't even get to meet them you just find out this is who i'm going to be with
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it's which is not so what if they don't like them or like is there like there's not that's where this
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is where india i would argue is worse when it comes to feminism than america it's just kind of like
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because the problem is when you use religion always as your scapegoat like well this is what the
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astrology and the stars aligned and you guys are together forever there is a lot of that but
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thankfully indians are not like very um yeah i feel like indians are very pragmatic so it tends to
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work out okay but yeah that my parents at least got to like talk and hang out a few times and like
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actually like it was more it wasn't like they were for they both got to agree to it but yeah so
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how did you start the funnel stuff like what so you graduate high school and yeah so then i
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were you like i need to come back to america i need every day so the only the only saving grace
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in india was i had a tremendous amount of friends like okay i like legitimately like i felt like i had
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over 100 plus real friends like um and is it more community based very like so much so that i could
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walk into anyone's house and it would just be normal like it'd be like i could walk in like for
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example i play piano as you know um i could walk into my friend's house who has a grand piano and just
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play it i don't have to like knock on the door i don't need to play it i don't need it and were
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these people you lived near yeah because in that neighborhood okay um but it was very like it felt
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like a sitcom so i had like a nintendo wii which a lot of indians didn't have in india so like people
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come play like my game console or i'd play i it was just very yeah every day there's always something
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to do oh you could just go say want to play tennis want to do this or that so that was cool is it still
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like that or has it changed it's still like that okay still very very like even when i'm there now
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um like you could even like sometimes my parents will just knock on a random neighbor's door and go
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like hey we ran out of like radishes can we just borrow radishes where here i don't know my neighbors
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i i have no idea who my neighbors are so i wonder actually in this kind of like the not city areas
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like suburbs like here does that happen too is it do you kind of know everyone around you or not really
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i went to catholic school so it's a little different we didn't know our neighbors because
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everyone's driving 20 to 30 minutes to go to school right and so it's not based on like zip code
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so all of the activities we did like i knew everyone from like my middle school but um again they didn't
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live in it but it still wasn't that relationship where like if they just showed up to your house
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uninvited it wouldn't be like it'd be weird i mean to be honest my childhood was pretty busy like we
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all did three sports right so like when were they gonna like when would they no one would be here
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right like when would they come right like i mean i did travel sports from the time i was like 10.
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right and and so in india that's like a little different too because everything you do is like
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in the neighborhood yeah because it's such a populated place no i was i was going to like
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different states on the weekends yeah i was like 13. yeah so that was the only good thing about india is
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i did have a really crazy social circle but no like i wanted so badly to come back to us because
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um in india at least in south india and bangalore they don't admire entrepreneurship and i was always
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a business guy like i was selling my homework notes in america like i would get in trouble at the
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principal's office because i started some business that like became like somewhat successful like i
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used to sell my my notes to all the kids and like i did it through paypal and so i had like i had
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like 700 on the paypal subscriptions and they're like you can't do that as like a 13 year old right so
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so it's just stuff like that uh that in india like you didn't have that um kind of that creative
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entrepreneurial spirit but i came back um and then i came back went to community college because i
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don't want to take student loan debt um in fact what's funny when i applied for colleges i purposely
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would screw up my college essay because my parents are that of the they're of the mentality like they
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would spend their life savings for me to go to school and i was like i don't want to waste your like
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three hundred thousand dollars going to a private school when i kind of knew i was very good at
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marketing i was very good at like yeah just this world that i don't think college teaches i don't
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think college teaches funnels right um so 18 i'm doing odd jobs like odd jobs in terms of i was like
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building websites for people freelancing i'm trying to pay my way through school um and then i basically
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learned that people say they want a website but they really don't okay they really wanted more
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customers so i found that out the hard way like that because i would go like someone who paid me 500
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dollars like a party bus uh company in santa ana california would pay me 500 bucks one time to
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build them a site and then they'd be like well the color of the site's off the fonts off but this is
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off and i'd be working over months getting the site how they want it must have been the copyright or
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something i'm guessing yeah right yeah everything was just like no matter what i did they were never
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happy um and then i finally figured out that what happened was my site just accidentally ranked on
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google and ended up being like the first search term and then they were really thrilled and they
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were like oh my god we're getting so many calls this is awesome and i went crap i got 500 once
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yeah and this person's now making like 10 grand a month extra in business so that's when i realized
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oh what does facebook do what does instagram do like they sell your data the money's all on the data
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so that's what so what i would do is i'd offer businesses um to build their websites for free
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but then i would say you pay me for every phone call i get you and i'd use like a google voice number like
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a voice over ip number to track it um and that kind of started um my like career in this where
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i was i got to a point where i was making 6 500 a month in community college which i thought was a
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trillion dollars when you're like yeah 19 years old yeah so i was as funny too because like back then i
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was balling in the sense that i buy like everyone like like ramen noodles that's there's like the
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little like the cutest things like i like we're at the vending machine i'll just be like i got everyone's
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stuff and then i felt like yeah i just felt like i to this day i think that's the richest i felt like
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just at 6 500 a month at 19. um and then i made a decision so i called my parents and i said you know
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i think i'm going to take a gap year and just lean into this um and they were pissed um because my
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family is indian parent you can't do that you understand too my mom has a phd like yeah you know
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that she's so she's going just get an undergrad like you're not even gonna get that yeah um and
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so that was like a very difficult thing but i found a guy um i guess you want to call like a mentor or
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whatever but i found a guy who was doing well marketing and i just honestly i offered him like
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i'll babysit your kids i'll wash your car like i just need guidance of people who are successful
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and he was doing about like a hundred something thousand a month net um in marketing so i just said
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so we kind of hit it off and he said just come to my house and his house had an elevator and stuff
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like that so it and yeah so that kind of started the relationship finding good mentors is so game
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changing it's the biggest thing it's yeah like even on youtube i sent a cold message to he was like
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at the time that had a video at the daily wire yep i never worked there i'd like to everyone always
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says i used to work but um and he ghosted me for a year and then like i i ended up like messaging him
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again and like that connection helped me so much because he taught they teach you all the stuff that
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other people like waste time on yeah oh for sure oh you met him the other day on the call no i know i
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know exactly what you're talking about no and that's the same thing that happened for me but what was
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kind of magical about that experience was that i also had a lot to bring to the table for him
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because i'm also younger age i know yeah snapchat was big there's like certain things that i knew
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the trends of that even he didn't because he was way older with kids so i think we just so i actually
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started off as larry like the coffee guy i worked for free so i i think the big pro tip i'd give
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anyone is like if you're struggling and don't know what to do in life especially for like 18 19
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as long as you don't starve to death working for free is the biggest life act but the secret is
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find someone worth a crap to work for free yeah right um and and they'll pay you if they see if
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they see like yeah like rich rich people like especially high performing men it's so rare to
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find other high performing people yeah that if you show initiative and like drive and like you want to
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look like they will go to the ends of the earth to help you because it's so rare to find that right it
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was like a i think it was like a grand total of 20 days of me working for him for free and then he's
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like i'm gonna start paying you yeah so because he couldn't believe it because i was just all in
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yeah um and down to i never i always have this attitude of like always if there's a way it could
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be helpful be helpful right but to your point i think what rich people can't stand is when the first
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thing out of your mouth is asking for money yeah so that is like it doesn't matter if you're even
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valuable if you ask for money off the get-go they're so turned off because everyone asks them
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for money all the time everyone asks them for a job all the time so i think for me it was genius
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because how'd you find them just friend of a friend okay actually it's kind of funny because i
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not to go too much on this tangent but i i got into this thing called network marketing it's really
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crappy business like amway okay and uh i ended up doing okay in amway because my in college i just
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tell college kids hey join this thing 100 bucks a month and i'm like you're probably never going
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to make money doing it but you'll be around other kids who are ambitious and that's going to be worth
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it so i i made a little bit of money in that but it was a kid it was a kid who was jealous of me in
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that company it was like oh you're more suited for this like guy who builds like websites sitting
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so he he was trying to like insult me but then i was like oh so i hit that guy up
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and then we ended up making like millions of dollars together but yeah and we made we did really well
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together i mean to a point where i i got i met him when i was 19 um by the time i by the time i
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turned 21 he was paying me 250 000 a year yeah so like real net like that's my income right not i know
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everyone says revenue um so i want to talk about like what i actually made myself but um but it was
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all commission so what ended up happening was it was thanksgiving day he forgot to turn off his like
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calendar so there was sales calls on this calendar and so i went i'll take him because he was just
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going to reschedule and he's like you like you know at the time i and i still come across like
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very nerdy very dorky so like see people don't think i would know sales um but i was like i'll
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give it a attempt so i ended up closing all four deals that day and then he was like oh you should
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do sales so it started out with me doing sales for him and then i got paid 15 commission i got to
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like 30 grand a month really quick doing that um and then it became me running the sales team so at
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one point i had 63 sales people working for me when i was like 22 23 holy crap so it's like a lot of like
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like i didn't the truth is i didn't know what i was doing for most of that those years but i think
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there's something magical to having like the proverbial gun to your head like i have to make
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this work yeah and i learned from doing it yeah it's great and there was a lot of things that
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actually and because i'm not naturally a sales guy there's a lot of things i did that were really
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smart like i i knew how to be pushy without being pushy like i learned to like i i because i i didn't
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know how to like be aggressive but i figured out that actually that worked in my advantage because
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people would be like man like this is the first sales call i've done where you're not like trying
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to slam me into something yeah so i think that was like big for him because he used to sell used
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cars for a living so like for him he was just like a buy or die you know like yeah you know like he used
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to do steroids in college like he's one of those you know meathead type type folk and then i'm like
00:22:20.880
i'm kind of going through this back door way of getting sales um and we had a really high
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clothes right we made a lot so we went from i think his business was doing like 200 grand a
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month when i started with him we ended up going to 2.5 million million is that profit or is that
00:22:33.520
revenue he was that that was so it was most of it was profit so he was like netting he was
00:22:40.640
netting like 120 grand a month on 200 grand of revenue then at 2.5 million he was like 900 grand
00:22:46.480
wow that's great and i was making i'm thrilled because i'm making like 40 grand a month right i'm
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thrilled um but we we ended up after so many years it got to a point where i i was like hey
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um i just think it got to a point i was working 80 100 hours a week i mean i don't know if they
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could see it on camera but like a lot of my hair is gray like it was very stressful it was very very
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stressful um but i was doing really well to the point where when i was 24 i was taking home like
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650 000 a year um but the problem is i had no life like i literally worked seven days a week i would wake up
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work go to bed that was my whole routine um so i just think i got to a point where i was like you
00:23:25.360
know i don't even know myself i haven't i haven't even at that point i didn't even take a sip of
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alcohol like it was like or barely you know so i just think that was the hard part for me it was i
00:23:34.720
it's tough to bowl yeah so we ended up having it was like it was kind of like i think everyone
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understood i was like you know i kind of need to go take some time off do my own thing so i ended up
00:23:46.480
quitting to build my own company and then yeah here we are again and now it does three million
00:23:50.800
bucks a year and yeah i feel like when you have a really high performer it's kind of like expected
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that at some point they're gonna go well i think the secret though because i have a lot of hype like
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now it's funny because i learned from that mistake i have really smart people who work for me now
00:24:06.480
and what should what should they have done to keep you they should have they should have not capped me
00:24:11.200
at the money i'm gonna make they put a cap they're like you're making too much money so it basically
00:24:16.320
it was because when i was making 650k a year they're like okay that's too much money for a 24 year old
00:24:20.800
i'm like but i'm like but i'm but that was all commission based yeah but the more money i make
00:24:26.400
the more you make so why would you care and so i think the problem with a lot of people is they look
00:24:32.080
at the physical dollar they're paying someone but if it's commission only you should never cap that
00:24:36.320
person i would love like if i like for me on my team i hope my my sales person makes 20 million a
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year because that means i'm making like 100 right right so that was really stupid i think it was ego
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because he was kind of successful young but now it was getting to the point where like never out of
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time to mask right but i see this and get pissed what is it really you see this and get pissed probably
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well i think now he understood honestly like don't get me wrong when i left i'm not gonna i was look the
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truth is like i didn't i didn't have any animosity um we kind of left a little dirty because obviously
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it's it's i think the the hard part for me was he felt like i was like his adopted kid because i'm
00:25:17.600
coming in this guy has kids i'm like the 19 year old young skinny intern who looked like i was starving
00:25:22.240
from india and now i'm like eating caviar and like you know driving a cool car and stuff and like living
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in a nice place so there's a part of him that felt like he made me and there's truth to that like i'm
00:25:33.840
not gonna take that away no he he gave me a lot that's why i will never talk talk bad about him
00:25:38.480
even though at the time it was kind of contentious when i left but um but vice versa like i also brought
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a lot to the table too because there's not a lot of people like me who would work that hard and work
00:25:49.840
for free and like grind the way i did for that many years um and so i think now i feel like now there's
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like a level of mutual respect because i've also done it again you know and so now because i think that's
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always the thing when you leave someone it's like was i only successful because of them right yeah
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and so i think now i have this confidence where i go okay like i did it again and i did it way smarter
00:26:15.440
way better the next time through um and i have people on my team that ironically i pay i paid someone
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like i have people on my team that i paid 30 40 grand a month you know and for me i'm always telling
00:26:26.480
them ways to get to 80 grand a month like why would i ever cap a high performer so that was their only
00:26:31.920
mistake so what was the business you started so you teach people from what i understand you teach
00:26:39.440
people that want to go like the digital route how to like leave their nine to five so there's two
00:26:43.840
things i do so i actually do actually rank like i do have business owners that basically i do their
00:26:49.280
marketing forum i help them get customers and then we have some type of profit split so i have a bunch
00:26:54.240
of clients on that side um and then obviously i was so good at that and the cool part with that
00:26:58.320
business it's all like passive income so like it's really nice because it's a lot of work up front
00:27:03.840
um it usually takes about six months to get any money turning from a business owner but once the
00:27:08.240
site's ranked on google especially for like let's say towing in foster city california like these small
00:27:12.160
cities um they kind of stay ranked because think about it you just have to be a better website builder
00:27:17.520
and a better person at marketing than the five blue collar tow truck companies in foster city
00:27:22.000
right so the competition's so low um and it doesn't ever go away never goes away and like even
00:27:29.040
right now if you were to chat gbt the clients i work for i show up on chat gbt as the number one
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result no way yeah so what people don't know about ai is that ai just uses search like chat gbt
00:27:39.520
uses bing search to find all their answers oh interesting and they just takes the search data
00:27:43.520
and tries to like make it into human text and so what are the tools you suggest people use to go
00:27:50.160
digital like if you want to i mean you met my guitar teacher the other day like he wants to go
00:27:54.880
digital or someone like him right i mean i think it all depends if you have a business already i think
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you're crazy for not running any type of digital ads if you're the business owner so if you're like
00:28:04.880
the guitar teacher as a music studio or something you're crazy for not running a google ad a facebook
00:28:09.840
ad a snapchat at some type of ad that's always the easiest thing to do um i think building a brand
00:28:14.960
only makes sense if you're trying to go big if you're trying to get to seven figures or eight figures
00:28:19.280
then you have to go make youtube videos and build something but if you're just trying to go from
00:28:23.840
like you're making five grand a month to like 15 grand a month in your business ads and you should
00:28:29.920
invest in some type of organic like you should be the number one result in your area that's crazy to
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me that you would that's not yeah how long does it take someone to go from knowing nothing about ads
00:28:39.440
to like being able to successfully run them so i'd imagine a lot of people waste a ton of money every
00:28:44.560
year on it well ads are really simple if you're trying to if you have a tiny business because if
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you spend 500 a month on ads the hard part with ads is scaling ads and that's where you need like a phd
00:28:56.560
in this stuff so i don't like ads i've always been the free google person like rank on google i'm also
00:29:02.080
cheap i like profit okay like i feel like everyone's so obsessed with revenue and i'm like i really
00:29:06.400
couldn't care less if you make 100 million in revenue i know so many entrepreneurs who do 100 million in
00:29:10.560
revenue but they're like losing money every year and they have to get like venture capital and
00:29:13.680
investors i love the fact that i own 100 of my stuff like yeah you know and i i like few people
00:29:19.120
the way i work is i'd rather work with like one or two and really high level people than have like
00:29:24.080
a hundred employees right yeah i had a ton of employees at one point and it's my life is so much
00:29:30.560
better like with just a few exactly it's so like god you know when they talk about like women not being
00:29:37.600
able to be ceos and stuff it's like people think that managing people like managing people is so
00:29:44.480
stressful it's insane there's a ton of men that don't even like managing people yeah you know what
00:29:49.040
i'm saying that's what made my dad so successful because he's really good at it like he's a very
00:29:54.560
good facilitator but it's like a rare trait and like it my dad even says like out of all my siblings
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there's maybe one and there's 10 of us that could manage a big company you know and it's it's just
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like a the ability to manage a lot of people is just a specific like skill set yeah and my you could
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tell me if you think differently i think you either have it or you don't or maybe you're you kind of have
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it and you have to learn it but i i think it's tough to take someone from like here to here yeah well
00:30:27.440
and i did like working with that that business partner when i was young i had 63 people and i was
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you know i was good at it to be honest the problem was i was good at it at the sacrifice of
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my own life yeah so that's why i was good at it because i was willing to have no life
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that's why i feel like what i'm really good at and this is what i'm proud of like now i have a
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coaching program which i know is cliche there's like a lot of stigma of creating coaching programs
00:30:54.000
but i feel like i have real track record now so i've only done the coaching program for like
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two and a half years okay so i i do feel like you know i i made millions of dollars prior to like
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teaching people stuff so i feel like it's very different than like there's a lot of kids who'll
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just go rent a lambo and like an airbnb and say like i'll teach you how to get rich it's like well
00:31:10.960
you haven't done it anything yet you know or they did it like they got rich off of what they're
00:31:16.080
selling right exactly so it's like how i right it's like they're selling how to make money courses
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right but they made zero dollars prior yeah now they make millions yeah and it's like you made
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the money off of the make money exactly so to me like i feel and and the cool thing with me is like
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my price is right direct it's like every and i even say on my page like everything that can go wrong
00:31:36.800
with the business so my thing is it's like very non-hype all my videos are like on a white background
00:31:41.520
yeah like no one even knows i don't even think i say like in this interview i'll talk about my past
00:31:46.880
but like i don't even talk about like how much money i've personally made you know in business so
00:31:50.960
my thing is like i feel like if you're trying to over hype someone then you don't have a good
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product i really hate when people guarantee results right it's just not practical like
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even me when i sign like youtube clients i'm like look i'm not a miracle worker if you're not
00:32:05.120
entertaining and people don't like you i can give you the tools that if you will be good right i mean
00:32:12.080
i'm giving you everything you need but i i'm not going to guarantee anything right because if you're
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not entertaining i'm not a miracle worker that's the way i'd put it like so for me i'm really good
00:32:22.720
at if someone already has the drive and motivation and let's say they were gonna figure this out like
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what i do like they were gonna try to figure it out on their own and get to like two grand a month
00:32:32.400
i know with me and my coaching i can get you to 20. but if you're someone who's gonna make zero
00:32:36.880
anyway because you have no work ethic you don't know how to problem solve a little bit you you're like
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always living like a victim there's nothing i can do and also life's long like for me i feel like
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there's times where even stuff i get into now the first year i kind of slap it's like working out
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right there's there's years where i i really get into it there's years not so i think people have
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to play the long game um i always find it strange that with college people are totally okay going 200
00:33:02.720
grand in debt and they have no expectations when they get out or very low that's a really interesting
00:33:07.520
way to put it yeah but then spend a few thousand dollars with someone who has a track record and then
00:33:11.600
they go like three months in i'm not a millionaire it's like wait a minute yeah like you you told me
00:33:17.200
you have a gender studies agreement 200 grand in debt the worst clients are the ones that will run
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if anything like goes wrong immediately like oh my gosh like we had we had an issue where it was
00:33:29.760
someone when we moved because we were moving countries and like we had we had two clients right
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and one we had issues with when we like we kind of i'm just going to be honest we were slacking that
00:33:40.320
month because we had to move i moved countries right right and one of them was like hey these
00:33:44.640
are problems we're not like we're here to work with you and so like i'm just letting you know these
00:33:50.800
are problems so you can fix them and the one like ripped me off for a month like he they they yeah and
00:33:57.440
the guys that walked away they're like at the same number of subs they've like lost so their
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presence i would say right and the one that stayed got a hundred thousand subscribers in six months
00:34:08.720
right but it's like dealing with clients with no patience when anything goes and it's not like
00:34:14.480
you're attempting to but things happen it's right life and so you know it's like the ones that assume
00:34:21.120
your bad faith does that make sense like they're just waiting for a reason to get mad at you you're
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like i just keep them right like that's what i told them like they ripped me off for a month and
00:34:30.800
i'm like just keep the money i don't i'll just good luck you know that's why i think most people
00:34:36.320
should not be managers because like what made me a good manager was knowing that people like
00:34:42.640
the full life cycle of a person like if someone was really good to me but they had two bad months
00:34:48.640
in sales let's say they're one of my sales people back then yeah like if it was any other sales
00:34:53.600
organization they would have got fired but i was smart enough to be like actually how about you take
00:34:57.280
the next month really off and i'm gonna pay you money out of my own pocket so you can take a real go
00:35:01.760
take a real vacation and come back so like so like i was very smart at like no not looking at
00:35:09.120
someone so transactionally and looking at the full life cycle of a person and i find the same way when
00:35:13.440
people join with with what i do the ones that look at it of like hey i want to get here in three years
00:35:19.520
those people always make it and i have so many i mean i have hundreds upon hundreds of people
00:35:23.200
who get to like 10 grand a month of like passive income through seo or whatever um but those people
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had a long-term view it's the people who are like i need to get to this place in three months
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that's what my dad would always my dad would always teach me as a woman we have a hard time with this
00:35:38.000
but whenever i get frustrated about something he's like focus on the solution focus on like what is the
00:35:43.280
problem what is the solution but it's like when you focus too long on like this is a problem this is
00:35:48.640
especially as a manager you can't otherwise nothing gets fixed and you just get mad at the employee
00:35:54.080
yeah exactly and don't get me wrong like now i have a way thinner like with my company you know
00:35:59.120
i have just a few smart people and i just talk to them and you know so i think the biggest thing will
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waste more money than a bad employee i know so i just have really smart people around me and i pay
00:36:09.360
them like like superstars yeah so my my thing now is i'm all about take the few and and the biggest thing
00:36:16.960
for me and the biggest thing i think i could teach people is like the lifestyle like i wake up when i
00:36:20.560
want i could travel when i want like when you asked me to come out here that's the stuff i feel
00:36:25.040
that look there's a lot of people make a lot of money in the world like i think the one thing i
00:36:28.640
have over them is the fact that like i can make i could kind of do whatever i want to do yeah and
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that's a other animal like to me freedom has always been my thing i would rather make you know
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like i'd rather let's just pick hypothetical numbers like i'd rather make like 500 grand a year
00:36:47.440
but have like the freedom to kind of do what i want then make like 10 million a year but like
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i have to wake up at 5 a.m every day grind all the time god 5 a.m or whatever it is right like to me
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i'm i'm very much more of a like i want to be able to travel like when i it was really cool with my
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parents like you know my dad in india when you turn 60 is like a big religious thing the the fact that
00:37:08.800
and i'm not even that religious but the fact i just went and decided impromptu to spend six weeks
00:37:13.600
alone like that's cool like like there's no world where if i worked for someone i could do that
00:37:18.320
yeah like just be like i'm just gonna go dip for six weeks yeah um and just take my laptop with me
00:37:24.080
so i think that's the coolest part about a digital business it built right is that um i could kind of
00:37:29.280
run my whole business through my phone through a laptop but the number of hours i work today it was a
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lot of work to get here i don't want to deny that but you can if you build a digital business right
00:37:39.040
you can get to a point where it's very easy to run and the whole world's going digital yeah like
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this is the future people try to fight people try to fight it but it just is what it is in fact
00:37:50.240
this is like a little fun anecdote so like i've always built remote so i've never even when i worked
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with the other business partner i've never we've always worked either at his house or just i've
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always worked at home yeah um so much so that when covet happened jordan belford the wolf of wall
00:38:04.560
street guy he he hit me up because he heard he's like saw me at a conference and he was asking me
00:38:09.360
advice of how to run a remote sales team because he was like i've always done it with like people in
00:38:13.360
a in a building he's like i can't believe you built a company to like 30 million a year
00:38:18.320
and you've never seen half these people ever you know so i feel like now it's cool like but i
00:38:23.760
sometimes it annoys me because i'm like i did this before it was cool like work from home i did that way
00:38:28.000
before it was cool i did it when it was kind of lame you were kind of like a loser you worked at home like
00:38:32.000
now everyone does that's how i feel about all these influencers quitting their jobs to be tick
00:38:36.320
tockers or youtubers i'm like i did it first and i wouldn't recommend it most of you are going to
00:38:42.560
fail exactly none of you have the work ethic because the thing is i feel like digital businesses it's
00:38:49.920
not like manual labor but it's very competitive would you would you agree with that like it's yeah
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which is why it's interesting the space i'm in with local um like dealing with small businesses and
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small cities and ranking on google it's very non-competitive really it's very easy because
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i found a really cool market where a lot of these blue-collar businesses think like your roofer
00:39:10.160
your um tree service tree care person people who do things with their hands like they're brilliant
00:39:16.240
people but their brain their brain is not computer driven yeah and so like i've taught people and then
00:39:21.920
the funny part is people don't realize to build a website's drag and drop you don't you could have a
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i have 12 year olds like parents who join my program and they make their kids do it i have
00:39:30.720
like a 14 year old girl who's at three grand a month like wow from what i taught her so like i
00:39:35.920
just know that it's so easy to teach people on the web but because you just have to build a better
00:39:40.720
website than the tow truck person than the tree care person and the bar is so low in fact i think
00:39:45.280
it's like 40 of business owners don't even have a website at all i think that it should be in schools
00:39:51.280
this stuff it should like that that is going to be the most useful i think this video editing like
00:39:57.360
it's it's the most useful thing that schools are kind of behind on there's no schools that teach
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and that's the only reason why i dropped out like i liked school i was a good student most of my life
00:40:07.920
india was a little exception but i think that everyone understands why that was i like school i
00:40:12.800
like college but in this space i would argue college almost makes you worse in fact i i like in the
00:40:19.760
beginning i would hire people from like mit and harvard and they were my worst people really i
00:40:23.680
would have to like give them out of my pocket like 10 grand to leave i'd be like just to be nice to
00:40:27.600
them like here's an extra 10 grand like please just don't work yeah yeah like the kid who yeah didn't
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go like drop it at community college telling someone from mit to screw off but yeah it's just i don't
00:40:42.320
know i feel like um the digital age is weird because it's all about it changes so quick and college
00:40:49.600
can't keep up college is always so slow on what they teach so um yeah and i honestly think in this
00:40:57.360
particular industry it's actually smarter to buy a course i hate courses for certain things but like
00:41:03.520
in this world it is smart to find a mentor or find someone and pay someone and not go through
00:41:07.680
institutions so what would be your advice to someone that like wants to do what you're doing
00:41:12.800
or like wants to take their business digital what would be your step one two three four let's say even
00:41:18.560
outside of your program right and i was gonna say like the truth is like everything that i teach
00:41:23.760
you could probably find on youtube for free somewhere yeah so i'm not i i don't want to
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like lie and be like oh you have to buy my program i say the same thing right it's like no you don't
00:41:32.480
you can go youtube it i think the value obviously by my program is more the community because there's
00:41:36.560
900 people in it and like it's the it's you're around people who are motivated and like you get live
00:41:41.920
time with like group time with me so it doesn't ask you questions right so it speeds the learning yeah
00:41:48.160
where like you'd have to watch 10 videos to figure out an answer right and just yeah so i get people
00:41:52.640
like that who try to do on their own first and then they come into my program like oh my god i i try to
00:41:56.960
spend two months to figure that out in five seconds but no you can do a lot of it for on youtube um i
00:42:02.720
think the biggest thing though is people should know who they are so if you're um like people actually
00:42:08.320
the funny part is introverts do really well in my business because they're ranking websites is a very
00:42:12.480
quiet activity um and so you just kind of have to know who you are and then like if you're very
00:42:18.400
extroverted what i do is i usually pair them up with the introverts usually it's like someone in my
00:42:22.640
program will um build all the websites do all the like nerd stuff like drag and drop the website
00:42:27.520
together try to rank it and then someone will talk to the business owner they'll go 50 50.
00:42:31.840
oh i see so people do really well as partnerships in my program but no i would just say youtube like
00:42:37.120
youtube's a great uh educational platform and i think so so they figure out what so then is step
00:42:42.880
two build a website like yes i'm saying someone's starting from nothing yeah so step one would be
00:42:48.000
find a niche it's a niche in cities so um i i tend to like blue collar service-based businesses so i love
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towing tree service things like that so the first thing you'd want to do is find a small city so i
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actually like say smaller than 350 000 in the population okay um so that's why i use foster city
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california because i live there for a little bit um but it's like 30 000 people in it um and so you
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pick a city like that and then the second thing you do is actually just go google search and see
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are there even tow truck companies or tree care companies that even have websites in that area
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if you see a lot of like yelp listings angie's list like those um yellowpages.com if you see a lot
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of what i call directory sites that's how you know you can dominate okay because if you think about
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it from google's vantage point yelp is google's competitor okay so google if they're ranking yelp that's
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they don't want to right they kind of have no choice because it's the only thing there in the
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area so that's what i would look at and then i go step three build a site um so for like foster city
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towing i'd buy like fostercitytowing.com so those words match with the search it's called keyword
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matching okay um and then just build some ugly site together the only thing that sucks is you have to
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write a bunch of content i i give people content writers in my program but um you you can just put
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some text together build a couple pages out and then um really a lot of it's just waiting around
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google takes up to six months to rank um but then what i do is i would text message and call business
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owners like tow truck companies in the area um and i would go to like yellowpages.com try to find a list
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of businesses and i just ask them hey would you uh give me 10 commission for every customer i gave you
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and then you can go to callrail.com to buy like a voice over ip phone number that's a number that'll track how
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much customers you're getting them so it's like a very simplistic nice view i worked as a copywriter
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when i was young amazing yeah it's a hard job honestly do you know what i i only did it for a summer
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i just remember being really bored yeah that's what it was i had to do i think it was service master
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was her client oh wow and i had to i just had to rewrite the same like restoration pages like i would
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have to rewrite the same pages in different ways over and over again thankfully now we have some
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of these ai writing tools yeah unfortunately google doesn't like a lot of them but like but yeah it's
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i just feel like today um today there's you can find someone in the philippines right yeah i didn't
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really understand what i was doing like i didn't i went like door to door looking for an internship for
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the summer like so i didn't really care i just wanted like to work in an office and not outside
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or like in retail so i went to this like office building and then the lady was like oh okay she's
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really nice too and then i just went in every day and i would just like rewrite the same page
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i didn't know why i was rewriting it i didn't know what it was for i just knew i'm like rewriting
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oh it's awesome yeah and it was so boring but it was but i know three months but the weird part is i
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know people who with their personality they love that where to me i'm more like i like to interact
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with the business owner yeah like yeah i like to deal with people yeah there are people in my group
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who they could just write all day long and they just are they love it yeah so that's my thing now
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is like i think it's good in business to have polar opposites i think one good business partner is
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brilliant yeah i've always done well when i have one other person that's kind of the opposite of me
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or their strengths are my weaknesses but and so that's kind of what you teach in your program
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yeah like beginning to end yeah like cop website building copyright and also picking which site to
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build so i think the easiest way to think about my business is it's very similar to real estate
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like the people who are the best at real estate they know location location location okay where do you
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build that website there's a lot of genius to that and then two is is um like two is then
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obviously putting the site together there's a certain way to put it together um like there's
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certain houses that sell better than others right certain configurations and then it's um yeah and then
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i think the biggest thing is like for in my business honestly the people who are the most successful
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it's the people who just build the most sites and like imperfect action like throw a lot of stuff at the
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wall um i think a lot of people expect perfection in this business remember the average tow truck
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owner doesn't even have a website yeah it's kind of the same thing for us with videos you go i mean
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because you get more data and then off of the data you can make better decisions in the future
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you know like who's going to be more successful i feel like in the short run if someone makes 100 youtube
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videos there's a higher chance they're going to be successful than someone who makes one incredible
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youtube video because it's like it's too little data i i get long i know the creator space is a
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little bit different because you have to keep stuff that's engaging but like if you just created one
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amazing video and that's your whole career and that's what i see with people too they'll um when i
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coach them they'll spend so much time perfecting a website i'm like my websites are the ugliest websites
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ever yeah and in the video space it's more there are people i would say the top creators
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don't have as many videos but they've made thousands to get there right right so they know
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what tone their audience but now they have a formula correct but to get to that right to get to that
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formula yeah you have to go do a lot yeah and that's the same thing with me like for me to even
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figure out little things like which niches to go into which cities it took me so much screwing up
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so i think a lot of times with people they're they're so afraid of screwing up right it's like no
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the screwing up is part of getting really successful yeah right yeah and that's the
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like you also have to be okay with losing money because sometimes you just will like that's another
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yeah like i i think that some people can't make it online like because sometimes you're just going
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to invest in stuff it's just not going to work and you got to try something else well i think the
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hardest part with people is that they invest and then it doesn't go exactly as planned and then
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they just give up instead of like no sometimes like yeah sometimes it takes a little bit longer
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the way i find business for me it's like usually the like that's why i say like i see students who
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they make zero dollars for the first six months it could be even nine months but then they don't
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just go from zero to making 500 a month exactly they go from like zero to 20 grand a month correct
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but so that's the hard that happened that happened with one of our guys like the guy said he got a
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hundred thousand it was like in january he got like 30 000 subscribers from one day exactly yeah not
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that he didn't make like um none but it just it like 10x like month five or something so i think that's
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so in fact i would argue the the the people who should be thinking about business or thinking about
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doing something on the side should be people who already have jobs right now and have stable income
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yeah you don't want this to be your livelihood it's it's really devastating when i get people
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who go i i got laid off i'm down to my last whatever and i have to be honest with them i'm
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like if you're down your last three thousand bucks like you shouldn't go in like this is not for you
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like i'm sorry you know um because it might take you nine months it might take you a year to figure it
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out but you know i always assume every skill is two years yeah like when you're sucking when you're
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being okay and then you're good and what's crazy is every generation that time gets less i bet you
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for your dad to be like yeah like seven years until you get good like every generation was like yeah
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it would take 20 years to build a career to get yeah like for my mom it took her 40 years to like
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get into like a really good position um as a phd level scientist like she built only now is she like
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kind of known in india as like a really good scientist but um for some reason the internet space we
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expect to get really good in three months and it's yeah okay what if it took a year would you
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not sacrifice a year for the rest of your life of happiness like and that's what i'm proud of is like
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my 20 i sacrificed most of my early 20s um and now i go oh my god i i can like i'm pretty much
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that's i i don't want to say set for the rest of my life but i have so much confidence in what i all
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those years of sacrifice that i kind of know i i know how to be successful the rest of my life
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but it took so much work in the beginning yeah that even now thinking back to how much work i did
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i it like makes me kind of throw up like in my mouth like oh that was a lot but now i'm like man
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i feel like i can like really hard business things i understand things that will like make people
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pull their hair out i'm like oh i've been there done that yeah even the youtube stuff like i when
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i started i assumed it would take me three years because i watched a bunch of videos from other
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youtubers and that was what they said and it took me i did tick tock for a year and youtube on the
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side it was like two yeah yeah it was like two yeah two years you made like no money yeah but and
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you find but what i think wouldn't you still two years in the grand scheme of life oh nothing that's
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what i'm saying nothing it's great and this is the best job ever yeah i get to talk yeah exactly and
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talk to people like you right like this is way more interesting than like i was selling copiers
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before so it's like real like dunder mifflin from the office um yeah well i guess they sold paper not
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copiers yeah i well i actually started making sales copier videos no way yeah like i i think they like
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lost like because they kind of discouraged me from doing it and then i was like i'm gonna go play
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volleyball i'm just imagining you making like a controversial video about like no no no it was
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it was just copiers like it was but i'd like i could see from a company like a young woman talking
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on the internet you don't know what she's gonna say i get it did you actually sell any copiers from those
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videos no not really i didn't really master the i wasn't doing it for long enough but they did know
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me on linkedin in the industry like because i yeah because they um yeah i mean they did okay but i
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did it was a mobotics because it was during covid oh god yeah it wasn't the best time to sell copies
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no but but then also who i feel like copiers today like i don't think i've ever owned a printer you
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know like a lot of people don't even own printers yeah and then if you need to scan something you just
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use your phone to take a photo of it right yeah i ended up quitting anyways because i wanted to go
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play overseas so right yeah cool but yeah um where can they find your stuff yeah so um somewhere on
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this video there'll be a link down below or something um i i honestly just think like i've been very
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weird like i think this is the first time i've ever talked online about my story um and i get that
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a lot a lot of people will like join my stuff or and they'll be like i don't even know the guy's
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name right because i'm i'm so personal you have such a memorable name too i know so i just figured
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at this point like hanging out with you this week i was like hey any chance we could just do an
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interview because um i feel like that's the number one thing i get asked about like wait i joined your
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thing and i don't even know who you are right and so yeah it's i mean my life story is not that
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fascinating i just think that um i just think that the reality is the internet world there's so much
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opportunity but there's so much garbage on the internet too yeah there's so much it's so hard
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to find legit things and so for every one of you there's 10 guys lying but that's also why i didn't
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ever want to talk about my life because i'm like they're gonna i'm just gonna come across like every
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other guy on the internet so that's why i've been like mia from the internet and i also have a real
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business so i'm like why would i why would i go build a brand i think now it's almost like now that
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everyone knows me in the business world has like been successful for as long as i have now i'm
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willing to get on camera but i just hated that stigma of like i didn't want to be another guy
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like oh you're just building a youtube channel of course it's tough because my dad i'm like dad i
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could make you so famous i'm like that and i it's but he's like why for what right that's what you find
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like some of the smartest people aren't online because why would they and especially money right
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without why right and it is it is kind of nice like there is a part of it that it's kind of nice
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that people don't know like it's nice that most of my dating life like yeah they have no idea like
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maybe you could inference it yeah yeah maybe okay my house is a little nicer than average um but like
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i i would uber everywhere so like i would have times where like my girlfriend for like six months
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didn't even know what car i drove and then like one day like went into my garage was like what the
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heck you know like but that to me i never posted a photo of my car or my house online like that to
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me is like a cooler situation to live in and i feel like a lot of the internet now is like any cool
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thing a person does they have to share it online yeah so there's pros and cons like their kids are
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being raised on the internet i'm like what not not to pull the like asian card here but i also i do
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think too though like why i want to get online more is because i think like i just know with me there
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was so much pressure to be an engineer or a doctor go do the like go get a undergrad master's phd
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and i don't meet like i don't know to this day another indian kid who dropped out of school who
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made it successful so i almost feel like now there's but there's probably a lot of people
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who are like me who are kind of like i know deep down like i can do something better with my life
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um but there's not a lot of people who look like like there's all the creators are all on roids with
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the sleeve tattoos yeah it's all the same look right yeah with the chisel and for me it always
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i always think they're fake yeah because they are i yeah because i find like the smartest men my dad
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knows don't really look like there's a reason look at the look at the top 50 richest people they don't
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they're not like yeah supermodels right so not to say you can't be or whatever it's just
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i think that there's a lot of cliches online of like like the reality is like even like fitness
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like you don't have to be in shape to be successful you could be like very financially rich and like
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look like mark zuckerberg right so business is a lot of times it's about systems and processes like
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the formula to make a youtube channel i mean we see youtube creators across the board you know like
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there's there's even like youtube creators i'm like they're not even good at talking on camera how are
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they getting views but they find a niche yeah they find an audience so yeah that's really it so
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who knows maybe i'm going to regret being public but we'll see we'll see um what's the your website
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yeah so um i'll put a link down below the funny part ironically to all this is i don't i same thing
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i didn't want to be known so i never had a public facing website okay but i will create one i will
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create a link by the time this comes out yeah by the time this comes out okay okay um well thank you so
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