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- November 04, 2025
Fat Woman Cannot Come To Reality - MEN DONT LIKE WHALES!
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Length
19 minutes
Words per Minute
171.78282
Word Count
3,339
Sentence Count
310
Misogynist Sentences
19
Hate Speech Sentences
13
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But I don't. You're so materialistic because you chose a tall man. Do you see how that is?
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You would say, what's wrong with you? I, you may see me as overweight, therefore less than
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or less discipline. But why can't I not judge men off the same criteria?
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I see these men that haven't finished college, that don't have a good job,
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that are overweight themselves. And then I'm supposed to lose weight for these men. I don't
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love those men. Well, exactly. But those are the men you're going to get when you're fat. When
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you're thin, you get way better men. So obviously like, yeah, when you're fat, you get the men with
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no jobs. That's true. Those, those are going to be the men you match with. I, I, when I was single,
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I was in California on the data gaps. Every guy I met, every guy I matched with had a good job and
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was attractive, but it was, it was when I was thin, you know? Um, I don't know if most people
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view teachers as overly ambitious. I don't mean to be rude. I don't think they, they see it as a bad
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profession, but when, when people hear ambitious, I don't think that's generally what comes to mind.
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Um, they also don't know what goes into it. Um, yeah, but the problem is there's more and more
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people not being able to read now that are graduating high school and the test scores just
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keep dropping. Um, you gain rate weight and wrinkles after kids at 90% of our men are very reasonable with
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fair weight gain and wrinkles on a woman who has multiple kids. Yeah. Cause the way guys are going
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to see it is they kind of factor in like 50 pounds for when you have children. So if a guy's going to
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date you now and then you have his kids, he knows you're going to probably gain like 50 pounds.
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Yeah. So that puts you at like close to the 300 mark, you know, I don't want that.
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I, I genuinely, go ahead. No, I, I understand it's, it's difficult, but, um,
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um, yeah, there's solutions you can do. So luckily for you, it's all fixable.
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I think you have a good face card. I think you have nice hair and, um, yeah, if you just,
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if you just do 1200 calories for like six months, baby, you'll be hot. You'll be hot in six months
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and then you can get some really attractive guys with jobs. So I'm telling you, I've seen my sister.
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She was a similar, she was a similar age and weight to you. And the quality of men is super
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crazy different now. And she's probably just 50 pounds lighter than you.
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Yeah. I'm trying to lose more weight, but I'm not trying to lose weight for men. I'm trying to lose
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weight for myself. Um, and that's something that I feel like is really like, that's really different.
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Maybe between me and you, I would rather make myself happy and then find people that are attracted to
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who I am as a person. And you know, what I do and what I choose in my, my livelihood.
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Why would a guy want to be with a selfish woman who won't do anything for him?
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I'm not a selfish woman. I would do anything for the man that I'm in love with, but
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Except, except lose weight. That's what you just said.
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But I'm just, but I'm just going back to a man who literally is so materialistic.
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How is it materialistic to care about health? Because if you're at the same weight,
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he's going to have to take care of you when you're old. Isn't that kind of selfish
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to expect somebody else to take care of you because you can't stop eating?
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It is. And I'm not sitting here on my ass doing nothing. I'm losing weight and I'm taking care of
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myself. But you have heard the saying that like, you can't love other people until you love yourself
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first. Like you have to have something to give, you know what I mean?
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Right. But my only disagreement was, or I guess, um, I just, I don't understand why you wouldn't want
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to lose weight for a man. And then you get surprised when men view you as selfish.
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When you say stuff like that, that's what it is going to tell men. Oh, she won't do anything for me.
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Like what, what if you gain weight in marriage and your husband says, Hey, could you,
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could you get on the treadmill, honey? No, I won't lose weight for a man. They're like,
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Oh, that's exhausting. No, thank you. You know,
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You can lose weight and be happy that a man is happy for it and be grateful, but
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it shouldn't be for the man. Like it should be because when you do something for someone else,
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you are not validating yourself. You know what I mean? Like you're like, if I were to, it's,
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it's just where it comes from. It's where it comes from. Like, of course I'll lose weight and like,
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you know, be happy if a man is happy and I'll be like, okay, great. You know, especially like if
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you're in a relationship already and you lose weight together that like, I would say that's for us.
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Like, especially if you lose weight for a partner, I just, I don't understand this therapy talk
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because what, what it sounds like, what I just keep hearing from you is do things for me to soothe
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my needs. Don't care about the other person's needs. And when I say, when I say men are visual,
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they care about looks. You say, well, I want to do it for me. I don't care about him. And then,
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you know, why would a guy want to date someone with that attitude? You know, because when you're in a
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relationship, a lot of it's being selfless and not thinking about you, you know, so I'm thinking
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about the other person. I just, I'm a little bit sad because I, I, I feel like you haven't met some
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of the great, amazing men that I have met that genuinely value women who work on themselves and
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try to become a whole person. Because I think it's selfish to date a man, to use a man and to use them
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and to value only the things that they can give you. What I'm saying is I want to become the most
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wholesome person that I can be and then date somebody. I need you to explain what that means.
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Women that work on them, what is working on yourself look like? Making sure that you can
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take care of yourself financially, making sure you can take care of yourself emotionally,
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making sure that you can put yourself in the position in which you love yourself,
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because if you don't love yourself, then who, how can you expect somebody else to love you?
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Okay. Financially. So what you pay your bills. I do. I pay all of my bills. I've, I've never been
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in the position. I'm saying like, that's what working on yourself is. It's so crazy. Why would
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it health fall into here? It does. I'm working on my health. Okay. Um, she is sorta in the area where
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men's are, the roles are reversed, but she wants a man, uh, and, but wants a woman and she doesn't want
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to lose the weight losing weight to be the reason new subscriber Pearl. Interesting. All right. Well,
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thank you guys. I just don't really understand the shaming language. You use a lot of that where
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you're like subtly shaming men for wanting what they want. And then, um, you, you kind of imply
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you, you somehow imply that there's something defective about men if they want thin women.
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But I also feel like you're shaming me for being who I am as a person.
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Um, because I said you would get more attention if you lost weight.
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I would get attention from people that are materialistic.
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So then it's a circle. You keep going back to that. So there's something wrong with the men
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if they want thin women. I think there's something wrong with the men. I don't think there's something
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wrong with the man who wants to be healthy. I think there's nothing wrong with a man who appreciates a
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healthy woman. Appreciates. But he can't want it. Okay. Well, is there something wrong with you?
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Because you want a tall man. There's something wrong with you. You're materialistic.
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But I don't. You're, you're so materialistic because you chose a tall man. Do you see how that
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you would say what's wrong with you? See, but I don't only date tall men. I've
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dated men that are shorter than me. Yeah. The gaslighting. But the last guy you dated was 6'1".
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So it's like. He happened to be 6'1". But the guy after that was 5'8". And I'm 5'9".
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Okay. So you went an inch shorter. What about 5'5"? Why not? 5'4"?
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I've done that. Yeah. I didn't prefer it. But I have dated men shorter than me. And it wasn't.
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Well, they don't. It wasn't. They don't. They don't. They don't prefer men. Women fatter than them.
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So it's. Look at. Men will do anything. So do you want male attention or not? Choose. Choose.
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Men will do anything. They will. They will bang anything. I mean. I've. Again, my sister was.
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She was overweight and she got tons of male attention. But it's for short term generally.
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Generally speaking. They don't want to be seen with you in public.
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I. I just can't. I wish I could agree with you. But I can't because I see plenty of women that are
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overweight that are very happily married. Very happily married with men that love them for who
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they are. Well, I'm sure they're happy. It doesn't mean their husbands are. Why do you think that they
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are? Why do you think the number one? Do you know what the number one consumer of OnlyFans is?
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Married men.
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Because women gain 20 pounds in the first five years of marriage on average. At least 20 pounds or more.
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So like. And that's exactly. If the men are so happily married, why are they looking at these
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thin 22 year old OnlyFans models? I think those men are weird. I'm sorry.
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Again, you keep you keep going back to I don't care what men want, which is fine. You know,
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you don't have to care. You can shame men for wanting what they want, but it doesn't change it.
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I just think that like it's also unfair to men that you're overgeneralizing them.
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You're overgeneralizing and saying that all men are like this and not all men are like that.
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Not all men.
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Are you an adult? Are you an adult person?
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Yes.
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Okay. Do you understand that what a generalization is?
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Yes.
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And you understand that it doesn't mean every single person?
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Yes.
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So why argue? Please do you just argue for fun?
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Yes.
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Is it?
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No, I just have, I intrinsically have a different viewpoint than you because.
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Okay. So if you know that in general, men like thinner women, you know that to be true. Not every
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single man, but you know, based on your life experiences that men like thinner women, you're
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not blind. You're, you're, you're close to you're in Hollywood. You know who they cast in the movies.
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You know who's on the big screens. Um, why argue this point? Why not just lose the weight?
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Why try to bend reality to what you want it to be instead of just losing the weight? You can, you can
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do it. I believe in you. 1200 calories. We can even come up with a plan together. I'll help you out.
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You know, like what I think I do agree with you on is like, maybe it would be great.
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This is fixable.
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You don't have to live life like that.
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It would be nice to have somebody who is happy for me that I'm healthy. Right. And that's okay. But
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I don't want to be shamed. I want to be accepted. I want to be, what I'm hoping is to find the person
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that loves me at both weights, you know? Um, and I don't, I don't think that's impossible to find.
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And maybe that's not most men.
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Do you think there's a burden of performance for women in relationships? What is your burden
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of performance? Do you think it's just to be yourself or do you think you have to provide
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something? Could you clarify that for me? Okay. So if a man wants to get into the relationship,
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he has a burden of performance. Part of that burden of performance is being attractive to you.
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Part of that burning bird. So it might be being good in bed. It might be, um, being charming enough
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to get you in bed or get you wanting to be in a relationship with him. Like he has to seduce you
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to some degree. Then he has to burn the performance, like protecting you, providing if you want a more
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traditional relationship, there's roles that men have to do in a relationship in order to be with you.
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There's things that you like about men. What should women offer in a relationship?
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Unconditional love and support.
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Okay. Give me tangibles. What does that mean? Like, what do you do weekly, daily? What does that look
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like? What are you doing? For me or for all women? We can go with you for now. Uh, ideally I would
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have a job too and provide as well so that my partner, I want my partner to be my equal. That's
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my dream is to have an equal. Okay. So what else? Yeah. Half the bills, um, to be a mother, you know,
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to be a mother that takes care of her children. Um, and to, to put just as much work in parenting as
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the partner would. And I suppose. So the kid, the kids get emotionally.
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Yeah. I mean, um, emotionally available. Okay. So what does he get?
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A loving, wholesome person who is an equal.
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It's going to be a tough sell, Liliana. I wish you luck in selling it. That's a tough sell. Liliana.
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Yes. All men want thin women. Pearl's giving you the key to getting what you want and you're not
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listening. Stop arguing and listen. She won't. I could give her a really good diet plan.
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So what you bring is being a wholesome, loving person. And that,
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that's actually not very easy to find, to be honest.
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Well, it, I, I think I would disagree because otherwise you'd have like a line out the door.
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You know what I mean?
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I disagree. Which is, which is fine. I'm not, you know, I'm just saying, if you're going to sell
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yourself, that's not how I do it. Cause you're saying I'll help with the bills. They don't care.
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Especially you want, you want, you want, you want men with jobs, right? You're too, you're big.
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You're too used to dating the, the jobless men. They all, they're, they're good with the 50,
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50, but once you get into thin category, you're going to see, they're not going to care about 50,
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50 rent. I mean, one thing that I can give that not a lot of people can is I'm like, I mean,
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you said to yourself, like the fact that I'm willing to talk to you and maybe I don't agree
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with every point, but, um, I'm willing to hear you out and I don't think you're wrong in every
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aspect. And I think that maybe, maybe I'll look back on this video and say, wow, Pearl is absolutely
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a hundred percent. Right. But you know, I'm a person that's learning and I'm willing to learn
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and I'm willing to talk to you. And, um, I would in a relationship essentially do the same. And a lot
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of women are stubborn. A lot of women are in the positions where it's like, what can men give me?
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What can men give me? I actually don't think, and I was telling the guy I worked with,
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I don't think you're fully cooked. You still have light in your eyes. Women kind of lose that as they
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get older. Yeah. You still have some light in your eyes, but you got to stop with this arguing over
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nothing. That's going to be exhausting. Like if I can't make a generalization with you arguing about
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it, that's going to be exhausting to a guy. I'm just taking a moment to think about. It's okay. You know,
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I understand I'm, I'm not as women. We just want to argue over everything, you know? Okay. Shame is a
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natural emotion and is a good thing. Grow up and be an adult. Um, she ate today and she did feed the
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dog. She just kissed. How many dogs do you have? Please tell me one. Uh, just one. Okay. There's no such
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thing as a wholesome, loving woman. Those days are gone. Women want what they want from a man. If they don't
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get it, they will leave. Pearl's looking more attractive than normal. I think you look better
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with no makeup, not trying to be offensive. Also shout out to the coach gang. We were almost 600
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men in here that agree with Pearl. Why are you arguing? Um, there is no such thing as unconditional
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love. Yeah. What, what in your life would make you think that there is a, do you think there's a such
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thing as unconditional love or is, sorry, do you think there is a such thing as unconditional love?
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Yes. Only because I experienced it for myself. In the three-year relationship?
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Mm-hmm. Uh, well, who ended it?
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They did. Did they say why? No.
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No. Okay. So you unconditionally loved him and he didn't, it wasn't reciprocated.
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Yes. Okay. Um, is that, did you gain weight during that period? Like, was there a fight? Do
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you have any idea what ended it? Uh, we both gained weight. Um, both of us did. During the relationship,
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we both gained weight. Um, and after the relationship, I lost weight just because I
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wasn't taking care of myself. Um, I wasn't eating. Well, that's good. Sorry. Sorry. That's good.
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That's not eating. Okay. So like, so what was the last conversation he had? Like, what was, what did he
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say? We had a lot of conversations even after the breakup. So it's kind of hard to pinpoint, but
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I do remember, I remember this, he had come over and he always told me, I'm still very attracted to
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you. That's not the problem. I'm still very attracted to you. And the thing is, is he confused
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me a lot because he'd always try to kiss me. He'd always try to do dot, dot, dot with me. Um,
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How, how old was he? Were you the same age? He was two years older than me.
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And did he go off to college? No. Okay. I hate to,
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I really still do care about this person. So I don't want to drag them down, but
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they did not finish college. Um, they, to this day only have a part-time job and they still live
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with their parents. So they, but he was a very attractive, I still hold to this day that he's
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a very attractive person. Like he had a good face card. Yeah. A hundred percent. And he was an athlete
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when he was in college, before he dropped out.
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