Pearl - November 20, 2024
Father FIGHTS to Save His Son From GENDER TRANSITION Nightmare | Pearl Daily
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Summary
In this episode of Pearl Daily, we have a live chat with Jeff Younger, a man who lost all parental rights to his sons and is now in the process of getting them back. Jeff talks about how a judge in California ruled that he can no longer have contact with his sons.
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good afternoon good evening ladies and gentlemen welcome to another episode of pearl daily i am
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know and I saw a tweet that was going viral and it was from a man named Jeff Younger and I'm going
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to read you guys his tweet and then we have him on the line to talk about his story so he said
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i lost all parental rights to my my sons goodbye boys perhaps we will meet when you are adults
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california judge jewess gave my ex-wife authority to castrate my son james all contact with my boys
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must be supervised i won't do that i send letters and gifts to my sons my ex is not required to give
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them to the boys i cannot post pictures of my sons let my story be a cautionary tale for young men
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fathers have no rights to their children do not enter the family law system and then his reply
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says a number of well-meaning people and some ill-meaning people too have urged me to attend
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supervised visits this is a bad idea it's bad for the kids supervised visits reinforces that in the
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child's mind that the father is dangerous that something is wrong with him it's also bad for the
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father. The supervisor can record anything he wants. Whatever he writes down, the court will
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take his fact. Supervision provides infinitely malleable material for the courts to make
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damaging findings. It's also expensive. I have to do visits in LA County, California. The flights
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and supervision run to over $2,000 per visit. No parent should do supervised visits. It's bad for
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the children bad for the father and allows courts to invent false findings to endanger to further
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endanger the father and this got so much traction that it got 91,000 likes on Twitter 12 million
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views and Elon Musk even responded to this story saying that there are many such situations it is
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utterly psychotic so on the line we have jeff welcome to the show jeff hi how are you i'm good
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how are you great you are in very good spirits considering everything that's going on with you
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how do you keep in um you know you seem to be in like i would be a wreck if i was in your shoes
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well i've been dealing with this for 10 years and um you know this ruling was not unexpected
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I've mostly tried to create a public record that I stood up for my son and did the right
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thing for him so that when he's old enough to know what's going on, he'll know the right
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thing to do by looking at what I did and what I wrote.
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So can we go back to the beginning of this story?
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And how did you meet the mother of the child of your son?
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i met her online and we met uh for a really nice pool date actually we played pool and she turned
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out to be a pool shark she beat the crap out of me and um i then went and took some lessons and
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got to where i could play with her she we hit it off pretty well she's a physician she's a
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pediatrician um at that time i was uh doing applied mathematics in the oil industry we had a law in
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common and we dated for about a year and then decided to get married and would you say like
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looking back there were like was there any way that you could have predicted what was to happen
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later just because younger guys might watch this and want to know if you know there was something
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that you could have seen coming just in hindsight um there was nothing really prior to the marriage
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but there were some things immediately after the marriage that that surprised me um i think um
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for young men uh the lesson from my from my story is simply don't enter the family court system
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you have to stay out of it completely um but there were tiny red flags um you know her
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her daughters basically from what i could tell uh she had two daughters from what i could tell
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they basically had no interaction with men their entire lives by the time i met them at 10 years old
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i remember her uh eldest daughter being absolutely amazed that i could outrun her
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she was a very fast runner in school and could outrun all the boys and um she was just surprised
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that i won all the games and everything and and finally you know my ex-wife she just turned her
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and said don't you know that boys win everything don't you know that and she didn't um there was
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also um a tendency and i i noticed this before we were married she she had um a daughter that
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she had adopted now there's a story there that i found out quite different once i was in the
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marriage but i thought you know she has an adopted daughter it's a very christian thing to adopt
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orphans so i was not opposed to that and it seemed like she picked a winner child and a loser child
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so the child that that was hers um she said that was always the better child and basically dinners
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would be like here's why child one is so much better than child two and it was really humiliating
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to the other little girl and that's actually one of the first things that put a stop to
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uh when we got married so when was the first time you noticed something changed
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or like when did you first notice that your son might be in trouble
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um right around well i noticed a big change in my ex-wife um six months to a year after the
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pregnancy um she said she was in a postpartum depression but it wasn't that it was pretty
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clear to me it wasn't that she began to like i caught her pulling pieces of paper out of the
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trash like mail that was directed to me and i threw it in the trash she started pulling things
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out of the trash and keeping them and uh finally she started putting my son into timeouts saying
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things like you know don't be a boy the monsters only eat boys because my son was saying he's
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afraid of monsters and so when i started putting my foot down about that kind of stuff
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That's when she filed for divorce. Um, I think, I think basically I was a sperm donor that would
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pay child support. That's basically what I, I think it was a setup from the get-go.
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She started at two and a half. Uh, if your audience goes out onto YouTube, you can search,
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uh, for a mommy says I'm a girl. And that video just went all over the world. Um, and it was just,
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my son just passed his third birthday it's the first iphone video i ever took and it's my son
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telling me that his mom is saying that he's a girl and he believes in her and were you guys
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together at this point or were you separated at that at three we were separated i had just moved
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out of the house a mile away because she being a doctor used primary care providers that she had
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relationships with to force me out of the house the girl her daughters suddenly became quote
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depressed and so it forced me out of the house and this was in texas is where the case started
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capel texas yeah and that's another thing so we capel sits across the border of two counties
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denton county and dallas county if we had gone to trial in denton county she would have definitely
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lost custody she might actually have been arrested but we went to trial in dallas county because she
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convinced me to move from one house to another that was just across the county line and then
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she filed for divorce when we were in that county and that county was more liberal dallas county
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is is as liberal as los angeles okay because there's this idea that in conservative states
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fathers will have more rights and the laws are getting more fair so would you say that's not
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the case it's not the case and it's actually probably the opposite in many many cases of
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feminists believe that men should take a larger share of child rearing duties so it's actually in
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leftist states that fathers get more custody than in the conservative states conservative states
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are usually the every other weekend father the eight days a month so when did you stop getting
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regular access to your son when did that start and what was that process like it happened after the
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first divorce so excuse me so the way it worked is because i've been to court three times for
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this is another problem with family court the cases aren't like a normal you know civil case
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you get a ruling and you're done right that's absolutely not the case in family court in family
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court uh the cases drag on forever so my in my initial divorce case the very first one that
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happened in 2016 um i was given what's called the standard possession schedule in texas and that's
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the you know 26 of the time why is that it's because there's a guy named blake mitchell i like
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to name names of these people um truth is an absolute defense against defamation i've learned
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over the years so the custody evaluator's name is blake mitchell's a psychologist that works out
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at denton dallas and colin counties here in texas and he i he asked me what my number one issue was
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in this divorce and i said my wife is tampering with my son's gender identity
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he did a one-year investigation and concluded that i was making all that up
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and that i had made a false accusation against her and on the basis of making this false
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accusation they gave me less than the standard possession schedule at first
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and which shows you how how if if you look at what's happened to my son and they accuse me
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of making a false accusation it goes to show you the power of women in family court they
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can simply lie about anything but how is that if there is video evidence of her doing it how
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did they get away with saying that you were lying if it's on video yeah it's a good point so and not
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only is there a video but i have email records showing that i gave that video to the custody
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evaluator blake mitchell okay uh he simply didn't put it into his report and when i attempted to
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introduce it into evidence in family court they wouldn't let me introduce it so the judge never
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had to consider it oh so they look that's what they do in family court they limit what evidence
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can be presented to create a narrative that they want okay so you then you got your custody limited
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at that point so what happened next was it further limited or um nope nope okay so i kept that
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standard possession schedule until 2019 when i was given 50 50 custody and uh equal parental rights
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and a check on all medical procedures and no child support during that interim period she began to
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really ramp up transitioning my son to the point where i would take my son to school as a boy and
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this is pinkerton middle school in capel texas which is closed now i believe this is the reason
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they closed the school i think they moved the principal on and shut it down they were transitioning
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my son secretly behind my back i would bring my son to school in boys clothes from my house
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and the teacher had a dress that my ex-wife had given the teacher they would change my son into
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a dress and make him use the girls restroom i found this out after about a year and three months
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and i filed a grievance with the capel school district and of course they exonerated themselves
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and said they had done nothing wrong that under their nickname policy they could call james
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whatever they wanted and they had a policy to let children wear whatever clothes they wanted based on
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what parents uh gave them so it was uh it was a really uh traumatic thing for me and that's what
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led to the next trial in 2019. and how old was your son during this that's first and second grade
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wow first so you would drop off your first and second grade son at school and he would come back
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to you wearing a dress? Actually, they would change you back into boys' clothes and give
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him back to me in boys' clothes so that I wouldn't know. And Pearl, here's something really important
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for your audience to know. And one of the things I so love about your show is that you're fearless
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in telling the truth about these things that other people will not talk about.
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This is something that has really shocked me. I've checked in all 50 states,
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doctors psychologists and psychiatrists all of them have the right to exert privacy for the
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child against the parents so this is how schools are doing this transitioning secretly behind
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parents backs the school counselor or the school nurse will exert a right of privacy for the child
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against the parent and there's no notification requirement the the care provider does not have
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to notify the parent that they exerted this right of privacy and then they can treat your child and
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do whatever they want with their child your child in secret it's really important if you do have
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kids you must never leave your children alone with a care provider and basically that means you can't
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take your kid to a public school because they have counselors and nurses there that can do this
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legally it was legal for the school to do this because the school counselor was doing it so
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there's a law in every state in this country where legally they can start to transition your kid and
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hide it from you that's right because that's why if you yeah if you go to a well visit with a child
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like to your pediatrician they'll ask you to step outside no way oh yes they do and they have a right
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to have private conversations so that's why you can't ever leave your children alone with these
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people yeah it's the same thing with birth control isn't it where they can put your daughter on birth
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control at a young age and not tell you through these privacy laws they're allowed to do that
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yeah and the intent was benevolent for creating these laws um the intent was well if there's some
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abuse the child's talking about you don't want to tell the parent which might cause more abuse that
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was the idea so what i've proposed as a change to the law in texas where i live is that okay you can
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exert the right of privacy but the care provider has to tell you within 15 days that they have at
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least exerted it so you can go to court and find out what's going on okay so you drop your kid off
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um your son off at school and he's getting transitioned and they bring him back to you
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in boy or back in boy clothes at the same time you have 50 50 custody and they drop child support
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now you're brought back to court. Yeah, well, during that period when they were transitioning
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him, I had the standard possession schedule in Texas, which is 27% of the time. So I would pick
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him up from school on Monday, and I would drop him off on Fridays. So I began to challenge the
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school, and I began to publicly campaign for a law in Texas to outlaw transitioning children,
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both chemically and surgically. It took me six years and about $200,000 of my own money to do
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that, but I finally did accomplish it. It happened right after the 2019 trial,
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and so I was actively campaigning in Texas for that, and I also ran for office in the state of
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Texas on that platform of making that illegal.
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So what happened at the 2019 trial is she just constantly finds pretexts to say there's
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And so she said, well, the change in circumstances is James wants to be a girl.
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Well, the thing is, James may have presented as a girl with my ex-wife, but with me, he's
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always presented as a boy, perfectly happy as a boy.
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everybody at the boxing gym knows him as james and as a boy and he's a very talented boxer i mean
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olympic talent scouts were looking at him he's like literally that good um he's a very uh very
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athletic young man and so he never presented consistently as a girl and i think what the
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transgender community latched onto my case for is because the idea i think was this kid doesn't
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present consistently so if you can get him you can get any kid and so we go to this 2019 trial
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the issue is about the transition we had to endure another um you know custody evaluator
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and this guy actually recommended that my son be transitioned and i had to bring in experts um you
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know uh against this stuff the guy that i brought in was dr levine and he ran the first gender
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clinic in the united states at john hopkins university and they shut their clinic down after
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four and a half years because their data showed they were hurting patients so we knew this back
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in the 70s that this stuff doesn't work so he came in and totally demolished the expert and the
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custody evaluator the judge completely disregarded the custody evaluator because
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he recommended transition of my son but but with a mistaken understanding of even what the
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psychological diagnosis was he misdiagnosed my son and we proved it johanna olson kennedy was
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their expert on their side she runs the largest gender clinic in america the gender clinic my
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son's in right now and in 2019 um i put her under a deposition i asked her a very simple question
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about 15 minutes into the deposition i said what is your uh league of a medical justification
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for amputating healthy body parts from children she said directly without skipping a beat she said
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if they cause psychological distress they're not healthy body parts and we can remove them
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opposing counsel literally dropped her notebook and left the deposition had somebody else come
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in to finish it and they were not going to put her in front of a texas jury so they they dropped
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her as an expert so we demolished them i got 50 50 custody no child support then the judges in
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dallas county moved my case sua sponte moved my case into the 301st district court with judge
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bloody mary brown i call her bloody mary brown bloody mary brown then systematically
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using temporary orders, which are not appealable in the state of Texas. That's important because
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I was never able to go up to get them corrected. She used temporary orders to strip me of all
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parental rights and eventually put me on supervised visitation because I was running
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for political office and I was talking about my case as part of my political platform to get this
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law changed. And she took my children from me and gave me supervised visitation because I ran for
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office as a republican and try to get the law changed wait under temporary orders yeah a lot
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of people that you ask all the exactly you focus on exactly the right things that most people
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overlook so in in civil cases and you can do this in criminal cases too but it's mostly done in
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civil cases you can imagine let's take a let's say it's a contract dispute over who owns some
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piece of property or something maybe it's a crane or something um temporary orders can be issued so
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that one person who maybe is in possession of the crane can't damage it so that the other person
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couldn't recover it if they won the lawsuit it's designed to maintain the status quo so nobody
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loses any property or money while we're going to trial does that make sense
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mm-hmm so temporary orders in family court however quite different because in a civil trial once the
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verdict comes in that's it you're done that's one of the great things about the american system
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once the ruling's in even if you don't like it you're done and you don't have to deal with it
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anymore you've got a verdict you're finished people can just move on with their lives in
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family court these things come up over and over again so in practice people live under temporary
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orders for the entire duration of the time they're raising their kids in my case these temporary
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orders removed uh physical custody from me so i was not able to be with my children unless i affirmed
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that james was a girl and allowed him to wear a dress to the visitations how did she how did she
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it doesn't sound like you were in court so how did she implement the like the way you're telling the
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story i'm understanding that you weren't in court when she issued this order oh yeah i've been in
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court continuously for 10 years except for two three week periods she's continuously sued me in
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court for 10 years wow okay so we're in judge bloody mary brown's court now okay so okay so
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you got 50 50 custody and then they switched districts and then okay i understand and this
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judge never implemented the order and instead stripped me of all my parental rights oh so you
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spent all that time and then you won and you thought like in a way it looked better and then
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they just switched your district because you were running for office and you were trying that's
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correct you were trying to get the law changed and they didn't is this her i looked her up online
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could you show my screen for a second does she have like gray hair uh
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i can't see unfortunately oh yes that's her oh that's her okay i was just wondering
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yes wow i can't i have an opinion but i can't say it on youtube about women being judges but
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that's hate speech so i won't say it okay most uh family court judges are women
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yeah okay okay so she just strips and does she do that like um do you get to plead your case
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in court or does she just do it like off the back where she knows we had hearings for all this uh
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that's why I call myself a jailhouse lawyer because I don't need lawyers anymore because
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I've been in court for three or four times a month for 10 years. And you eventually learn
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the law, even if you're a dumb old mathematician like me. So she held hearings. All right. But
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in three and a half years in her court, she never sustained a single objection,
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never allowed me to testify and never allowed my experts to testify. So she limited, again,
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limited the evidence that the court has available so that she can make her rulings the way way she
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wants that's how it works in family court so she limited the evidence so she could make the rulings
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that she wanted that's right yeah my doctors never got to testify i never got to testify i was never
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able to bring evidence forward they did not my child actually made an outcry at um one of the
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court ordered counseling sessions and he said i i'm embarrassed to wear dresses and i i don't
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want to be a girl the counselor threw my son out of the out of the session and it instigated a cps
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investigation of me for that so all of that all of those records i was never able to present them
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in court because uh the judge would not admit them okay and um it did you have a jury trial
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because is it in texas is like one of the only states i think that offer jury trials for family
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court am i am i wrong or right about that no that's right i had a jury trial in 2019 yeah okay
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and so what were you not able to have a jury trial next yeah because uh in california they do not
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allow uh texas is the only place where you can have a jury trial yeah but mary brown isn't she
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i'm looking it says texas no so how did it get to california yeah so we never had a final trial
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with mary brown mary brown was issuing temporary orders as we moved to the final trial and she it
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was all set up to allow my ex-wife to move to california and they set me up to have supervised
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visitation in texas before she moved so the next temporary order after i got supervised visitation
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she the next temporary order expanded the residency restriction so that she could move
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to california and then she did and then i went to the texas supreme court oh so now okay so now
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she's allowed to move before you can even get to a jury trial correct okay and what did the texas
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supreme court tell you so the texas supreme court justice black lock i call him black hearted black
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lock what's his name sorry say that one more time justin what justice black lock black lock i just
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like to have faces okay he ruled that they could not stop her from moving to california even though
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california had just passed its transgender kidnapping law saying that she was no more
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likely to be transition to transition my son in california than in texas that's that's what
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a political ruling looks like and is that because he's running for office and it'll piss people off
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if he says is that like i'm just why on earth would he rule that yeah yeah yeah it's a year
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you have the right response so um a lot of people even in texas a lot of republicans here do not
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understand the fundamental issue with the republican party and it's it's actually national
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but it shows itself very clearly in Texas. Fundamentally, the problem is this. The
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liberal, the donor class of the Republican Party is far left. So I'll give you an example. The
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transgender movement in the United States was not started by Democrats. It was started by Republicans.
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And I'm a lifelong Republican. I learned all this the hard way. Paul Singer is the largest donor to
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the Republican Party. And he founded the Human Rights Campaign. You know, the yellow equal sign?
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I don't, but that sounds familiar, but let me see. Okay. The Human Rights Campaign is the
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largest and most powerful LGBT lobby organization in the world. It's the reason that the State
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Department put the pride flags on all our embassies worldwide. They are also the people
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that created the dei scores for hiring lgbt people and then they grade corporations on it and that
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corporations live up to that was founded by paul singer who is the largest donor to the republican
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party he also sues everybody he's very litigious um and paul singer um also funds the manhattan
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institute he funds the claremont review of books he's a big funder of think tanks and and so forth
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i mean you can see interviews that um manhattan institute uh fellows have done with him where
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they talk about his lgbt advocacy he started the transgender movement in the united states and
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basically with the idea of codifying it into law um he's the largest donor of the republican party
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and all these people in office receive money from him um and so you have this problem you've got
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elected officials that are beholden to a far left donor class and he is worth six billion i mean
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who's got that like that's a lot of money he's a huge one billion are you going to compete with
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that i don't have six billion i don't know about you so imagine you're an elected official in a
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state office in texas or in the federal government you have a liberal donor class that you have to
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please to get the money to get re-elected but you're getting elected from an electorate like
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in texas that's far right so how do you how do you solve that problem well one of the easiest ways to
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solve the problem is you don't ever bring up votes on controversial issues that affect your donors
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that's the first thing they tried with me for six years but i forced them to get to have a vote on
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issue. And I made a lot of political enemies in the Republican Party along the way because they
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didn't want to, they did not want to take a vote on this issue, public vote. So I forced them to
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take a public vote. I wrote a bill. They substantially passed that bill, but they took
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three sentences out of it. And so this is the second tactic that they use. They don't vote on
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bills, but if they have to vote on bills, they put loopholes in the bills so they don't have any
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effect and basically they can go to their donor class and say i left those loopholes for you give
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me some money they can go to the electorate and say did you see how conservative i was when i
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passed that bill so what they did with my bill there were three sentences they took out which
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would have classified chemical and surgical castration of children as felony child sexual
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abuse and in texas that'll get you a mandatory life prison in prison and our our prisons are
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pretty bad so it would be an extremely uh powerful deterrent they removed those so that parents could
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fly their children to colorado or california and just get these procedures done and fly back to
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texas so it had absolutely no effect and that's that's what the donors wanted as a fallback
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and that's the game that gets played all the time in republican politics and what's the donors
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incentive why do they like what's there and is it just because they believe in it or is there some
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money incentive for them um i think i think it has to do with social beliefs primarily okay and
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um and longer term globalist uh aspirations which if i had to explain it i would do it this way i'm
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actually writing a book about this so if you i've lived all over the world okay i've lived i've
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lived in 11 countries um there's only one place in the world that believes in free speech and gun
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rights and the right to remain silent all these rights that we take for granted there's just
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literally only one place in the world if you go to the uk they don't believe in free speech there
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yeah canada yeah canada affirmatively says free speech is evil they don't believe in it
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they don't have gun rights the uk doesn't have gun rights germany doesn't have gun rights
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nobody has any of these things and in america not everybody believes in these things either
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our rich elites don't believe in free speech that's why they censored you on youtube
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okay because our rich elites don't believe in free speech um they don't believe in gun rights
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likewise our lower classes in the united states because they're beholden to government welfare
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do whatever the bureaucrats want and they're also in favor of all of these sort of liberal
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approaches of limiting speech no gun rights etc it's really just the american middle class
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that believes in all these fundamental rights and because the american middle class is responsible
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for electing the uh you know officers of the federal government they have an outsized influence
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on world affairs. And I think there's been a globalist attempt for a long time to disrupt
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the families and financial standing of the American middle class to reduce its political power
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in order to obtain the ability to censor globally and to take away people's gun rights globally and
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so forth. Okay. So their belief essentially, so this is just stuff they believe in and that's
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their incentive they're not necessarily making money off of it well the the hospitals make tons
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of money so every uh child that's transitioned is about a four and a half million dollar lifetime
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income stream wow and that's a result of federal money it's not uh it's not an innate result yeah
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the puberty blocker drugs are among the most expensive drugs sold in the world
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so they're and they have to stay on these hormones for the rest of their life and they don't really
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get new genitals they get a wound it's a wound that looks like genitals but it requires the same
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wound care that you would if you were shot or if you were cut and that wound care is a lifetime
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so they make tons of money from these kids yeah i've interviewed some after like they've had it
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and they like de-transit i've and i've interviewed some de-transitions and some of the stuff i said i
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could barely listen to it's pretty graphic yes i'm even like clenching up thinking uh
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Okay. So what happened? So your wife then, or your ex-wife then moves to California.
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And does that take us to the most recent court hearing or was there one before that?
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There's one before that. I went up to the Texas Supreme Court and argued that it would remove
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the protections of Texas law and subject my child to procedures, which in Texas are child abuse.
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they they ruled against me then i wind up in court with judge uhas department 64 in los angeles
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county and that's when we got to the current trial okay and that current trial is in california
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correct okay so then take me to what happened there at this point how long has it been since
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were you seeing your son in the meantime or was it supervised visits still so it's supervised
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visits, she moved to California. I have to fly to California, get a hotel, do a visit in LA County.
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Cost me about $2,000 a visit. I did two visits. They were awful. And I determined at that time
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that supervised visits are not in my child's best interests. I won't do them anymore. At the
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supervised visits, they were forcing me to affirm my son was a girl. They were scolding me in front
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of my children um i was unable to just go to a park and throw a ball with my boys couldn't take
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them out for an ice cream we were basically sitting in a room with bare white walls for
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two hours and it just it was not pleasant for the boys or for me so um that's the the my son
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jude also i have two sons james and jude they're twins um jude became quite fearful on the second
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visit i i think the supervised visits were intimidating for him so i just determined that
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i'm not going to do them anymore so i had two supervised visits in a three and a half year
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period before i got the latest ruling other than that i didn't see my kids my ex-wife has denied
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me electronic communication and uh that was against the court order the current ruling from
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the judge is that he just agreed with her and said okay then you just don't get any unsupervised
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electronic communication and that's the new judge in california yeah judge yuhas yeah mark yuhas mark
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yuhas how do you spell yuhas eu juhas i had that wrong okay okay this guy wow and so base okay so
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So you've had supervised visits and they basically scare your children because they treat you like the enemy, essentially.
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The purpose of supervised visits is not to protect children.
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The purpose of supervised visits in family court is it's an infinitely malleable collection of facts that can create a narrative against the father.
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And they were actually used against me at trial.
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The two supervised visits I went to were actually used against me at trial in that fashion.
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And do you believe all the members of family court have an idea of what's going on,
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I think the judges believe all the sides are lying.
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I don't think they pick based on anything other than money.
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Money and ideology is all they pick on. That's literally all judges care about. The facts
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actually don't much matter in family court. Okay. And that's because of the preponderance
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of evidence. It's based on like a balance of probabilities and not reasonable doubt, right?
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That's the reason. Oh yeah. It's the lowest standard in the law. If it's just 50.001%
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in favor of one person they win and i'm i will submit to you that you can you can uh interpret
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any evidence to get 50.0001 percent and in most states it's up to the discretion of the judge
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other than if from i've only heard but texas you can get a jury trial you can get a jury trial but
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only on the issue of conservatorship not possession and access really yes yeah a lot of people have
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that mistaken okay so when it comes to child like how much you get to see your child even in texas
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with the jury it doesn't really affect it it's still up to the discretion of the judge yes 100
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percent up to the judge so is child support it's completely up to the judge okay and so that was
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your most recent visit where they gave they so is it over now how old's your son they're 12 um this
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this trial is over. She could sue me again anytime. All she has to show is that there's
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been a significant change in circumstances. You know, if James is chemically castrated
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and becomes feminized, she could claim that's a significant change in circumstances and I'll be
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right back in court and they'll probably try to terminate my parental rights or take the next
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step to keep me away from my kids. And right now all you have is supervised visits. Are you paying
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child support i quit paying child support about six months ago and i'm not going to pay it anymore
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okay and is she pursuing you for like it does the court order that you pay it and you're just
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refusing yes i'm willfully refusing to pay child support which is a criminal offense in texas okay
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and so you could eventually potentially get thrown in jail over the child support yeah i'll probably
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go to prison yeah probably okay and do you believe that she's actually going to go through with this
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procedure 100 she's already represented to the court that she is wow and how is do you have any
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insight into how your son's doing um has she brainwashed him at this point or yes okay so
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he's completely like brainwashed and he yeah he's the school the school he's going to is teaching
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him you know that it's uh people can't call you by male pronouns or by your quote unquote dead name
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and all that stuff he's bought into all that stuff so from your point of view is there anything that
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can really be done to fight this um like what what can the average person do to help your case or the
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cases may be close to them the the most important thing is is to push at the state level to outlaw
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these procedures. If these procedures are outlawed, it just can't happen in your state.
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Now, it's important that you not let them water these laws down like they did in Texas,
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and you make sure that it's classified as a criminal offense so you can't leave the state
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to go do it. The other thing is Trump's on the right track on this. Trump says he's going to
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decertify any hospital that does these procedures. Their federal hospital certification will be
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removed. And this needs to be done at the state level as well, not only at the federal level,
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but at the state level. States, hospitals that do this should not be certified as hospitals.
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You shouldn't be able to have a medical practice to do this. The other thing as a wider issue
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is just family court reform, because a court should have never had the power to do this to
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my children and to me in the first place. And so overall family court reform, and I think I can
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state that very simply, Earl, is in this way, unless under the criminal rules, which is beyond
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a reasonable doubt, unless under a criminal trial, a jury has found that you have abused your
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children or you abandoned your children, right? There's neglect and abuse. Those are the two
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sides of the spectrum. Everything in between is legitimate parenting. And the state should have
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no discretion to interfere with your parenting if there's been no criminal finding of abuse or
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neglect. And we need to take discretion away from these judges. They've just shown they can't
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use discretion wisely. But of course, as you know, we're up against Title IV-D and the massive
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funding to the states and that's what family courts really are they're just funding vehicles
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texas gets half a billion dollars a year from title 4d so you know what i've proposed in texas
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is that you're not going to get the state to give up half a billion dollars so so right so what i
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proposed is that agencies that that collect uh these funds can't use them they have to go to
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other purposes and can't benefit those agencies which reduces their incentive to collect them
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wait say that can you give me an example of how that would work yeah so the texas attorney the
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reason that family courts were created they're actually an accounting mechanism so that that
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state can prove that you pay the child support to get the matching dollars like the child support
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that i used to pay um the state would make about 21 000 a year for me okay so because i'm paying
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the state for to child support they can account for every dollar and make sure they get paid
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okay so the texas attorney general's office in texas is the one that collects this money
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they they do all the grant applications and everything so they get the money well uh the
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the point is that the texas attorney general's office should not be able to spend that money
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It should have to go somewhere else. It should go to border enforcement or some other part of state funding to reduce the incentive for them to constantly create more.
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People don't get that the reason the family courts always give the children to the dysfunctional parent, it's a very simple calculation on their part.
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You know, I watched a mother who, after a year, was able to successfully pass a 30-day heroin drug test.
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The father had custody and had been given custody a year before.
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I'm sitting there waiting to go into my hearing, and I'm listening to this one.
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And she passed this drug test, finally, after three failed ones.
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And the judge immediately gave the children back to the mom, the heroin addict.
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Oh, it's got to be because the dysfunctional parent's never going to be able to pay.
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That woman's never going to hold a job if she's barely passing drug tests.
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So the judges are incentivized to give the children to the dysfunctional parent.
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Some states judicial retirement funds are tied to how much Title IV-D funds that they
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In Texas, the Texas Attorney General's office gives judges quotas before they ever hear
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They're given a dollar quota for the year that they have to give in divorces.
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So that's why sometimes child support is way excessive, it's way high.
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It's because the judge has a quota that they have to fill.
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and has making any of these names public like i'm just wondering because
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like if i was in texas can you go visit these judges they're elected officials aren't they
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oh yeah i can go to the courts anytime yeah so do people because this got so much traction do people
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i don't know call the judges about your case do i mean has has this impacted that like do
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Do they have any idea how much traction this has gotten, the case?
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Judge Bloody Mary Brown had a protest that broke out in front of her house.
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The phone calls to judges about specific cases are actually illegal.
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and my case caused all the courts in texas to create reminders whenever you call the courts
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now they have recorded messages telling you that it's a criminal offense to try to influence a
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judge on a specific case so we need to probably change the laws to make make make it legal for
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people to uh to let judges know if they're doing a bad job on a case but right now it's actually
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illegal to do that so was the protest in front of her house was that illegal that was legal
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um however university park is uh has a a lot of public officials that live there and they have a
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no specific protesting law so you can't protest a specific house so all they did is they marched
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up and down the sidewalk in front of her house you know so it wasn't a specific house um her
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uh judge bloody mary brown's husband came out and cussed out the protesters used the f word
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and um uh created a big scene actually uh looks to me on the video like he assaulted one of them
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um i actually filed a recusal on that basis because they alleged that i led that protest
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which i didn't and that it constituted ex parte communication the illegal kind that i'm talking
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about and that's alleged in the pleadings in texas so uh in texas if a spouse if a judge's
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spouse is a witness to any of the facts alleged in the pleading they can't sit on the case
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so she should have recused herself but she didn't so i went up they brought in a judge
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emeritus who said she doesn't have to accuse herself you can get the facts some other way
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totally illegal but that's how it works in texas and what about the other one uh black raw or
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black lock justice black lock did people protest him did they no no i don't think people are even
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aware of what he's done one of the things that our supreme court trades on is very low publicity
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campaigns um and so but i assure you in his next um in his next run for office people will know
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i will make sure of that right when does he run he's got two years from now okay and
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oh he's been the wow okay he's a total scumbag he knew exactly what he was doing he he was working
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for the donor class and get and the other thing too is you gotta understand pearl i am a thorn in
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the side of the republican establishment here they did not want to pass that transgender law
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they did not want because look when i passed that law it shut down a billion dollar industry in
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texas it shut down all the gender clinics at children's hospitals in four major cities
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so it was a major hit to the hospitals which are a large donor class within the state
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so they were really upset with me one of the main reasons they let my ex-wife move to california is
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they wanted me to move there too so i would leave the state and stop being a problem for them
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So that's another thing that, you know, people I'll I know some other examples of this besides me, the former mayor of Mineral Wells, for example, the the political establishments are using family court as a weapon against political enemies.
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They'll take their kids and bankrupt them. And they're also able to manufacture all kinds of fake domestic violence claims and all kinds of things which hurt them in reelection.
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So family court is being used as a political weapon.
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If you have an ex-wife and you run for office, you can be rest assured that your political enemies in the Republican Party will definitely go talk to your ex-wife.
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Wow. So they'll talk to your ex-wife and get like a news story or something?
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Well, they'll get her. They'll get her in Texas. The law firm of choice for this is Coons Fuller.
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And they'll get your ex-wife. They'll get your ex-wife a law firm and sue you and manufacture a case against you to ruin your election.
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Wait, say that one more time. Sorry, sorry. So it's Coons Fuller.
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They will they will get your ex-wife a lawyer with the most expensive and most powerful law firm in Texas to manufacture a case against you in family court because they know the laws of evidence don't apply there.
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they can get any evidence and they want and create uh fake charges domestic violence charges
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and then ruin your campaign so you can't get elected no i was there i was at coons like not
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very long long ago um really yeah no it's weird um i don't know i don't want to say the name on
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stream but you're not like me you're not like me no because um he actually the guy i talked to
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won the biggest like case for a dad in texas so he was on like the it's interesting you said that
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because the case that i saw like won one of the biggest like cases in texas to give the
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doctor never loses yeah yeah this fuller never loses but they're the largest donor to judicial
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campaigns in the state of texas they buy judges oh wow they never lose they never lose so their
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retainers are enormous the retainer for coons fuller is like 175 000 dollars
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Wow. Okay. So, but they, um, so they run, wow, that's crazy. So they, they fund the, whoever,
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like the judges campaigns. Yes, they do. And then they get your ex-wife to, could you say,
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sorry, say that one more time. They get your ex-wife to what?
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Oh, they'll get your, they'll use your ex-wife and take you into hearings and create trumped up
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facts and charges to that create a court record that's very damaging that will be used against
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you when you run for office wow that's exactly what they did to me actually that's so shocking
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that's so shocking because i really liked the guy that i met with there like i'm actually so actually
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i i liked my opposing counsel in my case jessica johnson she's a very nice lady
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um but coons fuller was a platinum sponsor of my judge's political campaign do you think i could
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get a fair trailer absolutely no yeah they gave her tens of thousands of dollars
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and that's perfectly legal in every all the 50 states really so the law firms give the judges
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money to run and the judges essentially oh so they have to let them win and essentially because
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women generally i'm sure that's their biggest client is women so yeah so obviously they're
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because women file first more so if that happens then um okay that makes sense then of course
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you're gonna rule that way yeah and let me give you an example of how it works in my 2019 trial
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when i got 50 50 custody jessica janicek from coons fuller you know she was shocked she fell
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out of her chair when i got 50 50 custody from this judge it was judge kim cooks in the 255th
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district court um koons fuller out of retribution i believe put in money against her opponent the
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next time she ran for office and they took kim cooks off the off the bench jessica janicek
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i'm trying to i don't think i met her trying to see your name jessica
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uh coons fuller wait how do you spell janicek ja and i have to look at my emails that's okay i was
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just curious jan jan i'm gonna put coons fuller see if it comes up oh there it is super nice lady
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yeah um no i didn't meet her i don't know what that is but wow that's crazy so essentially
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how is that legal well okay it's a good question so here's how it's legal because it wouldn't be
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legal in any other industry right it could just couldn't be it's legal because the bar association
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it has a very special status in america it's a a private organization that is granted uh
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the legal status to um essentially manage a discipline for state governments in california
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it's gone so far that they're that they have actually ruled that the bar association a private
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company the bar association has sovereign immunity just like the state government you can't sue it
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so the bar associations uh uh are super powerful and they are the ones most responsible for
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legislation that allows this stuff to happen they want to be able to buy cases when they need to win
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so they pass laws that let them do it wow there's literally no organization in america that's
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probably as powerful as the bar association and if you look at members of the bar in the
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state governments and the federal governments prosecutors and judges are the most powerful
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lobby groups within the Bar Association, especially prosecutors. And the reason is very
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simple. I don't think people understand this either. Prosecutors and judges, like family court
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judges, have absolute immunity, meaning that even if you can prove that they violated the law
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in the performance of their duties with the intention to harm a child, they still can't be
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prosecuted for the lawyer no the judges can't judges and prosecutors they cannot even if they
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violated the law with the intention to harm a child they can't be prosecuted because of protections
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from the bar association well it's it's actually absolute immunity in the case of judges is a
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judicial doctrine that they invented for themselves for prosecutors it is statutory yeah okay
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Absolute immunity is a wild concept if you think about it.
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It basically means somebody is completely above the law in the performance of their
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You know, we just had this big debate about whether the president should be held accountable
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Well, prosecutors and judges have that all day, every day.
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So, you know, if a prosecutor, for example, in a criminal trial intentionally withheld
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evidence to convict an innocent man and send him to death to the death penalty he can't be
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prosecuted for that he has absolute immunity in in the performance of his duties so it's a huge
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flaw in the design of our judiciary and judges have the same thing yes they do yeah that's why
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they're so powerful but how is that um like i'm just i'm kind of baffled that like how is that
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legal. It's because of the Bar Association. That's what you're saying.
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The Bar Associations have created laws that insulate lawyers and judges and prosecutors.
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The rubber hits the road for lawyers in front of judges and prosecutors.
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So they are the lobby group for those people. And in the federal judiciary, the federal judges
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just invented this doctrine they said well we're just never going to ever convict a judge as long
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as it was in the performance of his duties he won't be allowed you won't be allowed to bring
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a case against him in federal court so that's just how it is just like you know there's the domestic
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exceptions domestic relations exception in federal court so a lot of people have asked me
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jeff why don't you go into federal court on civil rights claims or go and get your constitutional
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rights upheld, you know, in federal court. Well, the Supreme Court, since the establishment of
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family courts in the 80s, created a rule called the domestic relations exception. It's not a law.
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It's not a statute. It's not even a court case. It's just a rule promulgated by the U.S. Supreme
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Court. And it says that they just won't take any cases out of family court from the states,
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no matter how egregious they are. They just don't take them. So every time you go out of family
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court and you say your constitutional rights were violated as a parent they just dismiss the case
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you never can take your case up do you foresee um these names of these judges and prosecutors
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that do this sort of thing becoming public like do you see the public potentially doing more
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protests similar to yours and do you see that i hope so i hope they do you know one of the things
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that prosecutors and judges have come to believe is that they should not be influenced by the
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people and that the people have no right to know what they're doing. They do not act like
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public officials, you know, with sunshine laws where we can see what our government's doing.
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You know, in California, they sealed my case. And there's no law in California that allows
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them to do that. So the public was not allowed to attend my trial. I can't give you the transcripts.
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I can't even give you the rulings. All those things are sealed. Even the appellate courts
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can't get them. So this has all been a secret trial. And judges have come to expect this kind
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of secrecy as a right of theirs. You know, if you go into a lot of courtrooms, you're not allowed to
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record the proceedings. You can't record them. Why would you not be allowed to record what's
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happening in a public, you know, a public hearing. If you go to a hearing of the legislature, you go
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like I've been to the Texas legislature and the federal legislature many times, you can just whip
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out, whip out your phone and record the debates that are going on on the floor. Why can't you do
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that in a court? The reason is very simple. The judge wants to control the record of what was
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done in the court. And in family courts, they often lie. I've had transcripts come back where
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they just put three dots and and there's no the answer to the question isn't present you know
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jessica janicek from kunst fuller would ask me a question i would reply and the record would
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reflect that i didn't give a reply there's no evidence there um and the court reporter just
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said well i couldn't hear what he said you see how they control the the control that way they
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can control what's in the record for the appellate court so judges want to be in absolute control of
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that. And if you have a tape recorder, you can prove that they're doing felonious acts on the
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bench by manipulating public records. And so they don't let you do that. Some judges don't even let
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you take written notes of what's going on. You can't even take notes. And so if that happens,
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the judges still can't be sued. They can't be go to jail because they're, I forgot the word you
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said but they essentially absolute immunity absolutely they have absolute immunity so they
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can't even be prosecuted for these things that is correct wow police officers have qualified immunity
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which means if they reasonably believed they were following the law they can't be prosecuted
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but judges have absolute immunity which means even if they knew they were breaking the law
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they can't be prosecuted um i'm gonna read i'm gonna read the chat really quick so
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um because i have it guys if you have any questions for him or comments um you go to
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the audacity network.com and you just go into the live streams chat and i can read them okay so um
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fazel lol says hi pearl if you're interested i'd like to share my divorce for your documentary my
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ex-wife filed in 2016 and i didn't see my son from age two until his 10th birthday
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last august early late last august johnny d says one of the truest statements in the bible is the
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love of money is the root of all evil timothy 6 10 it is the false um it is the most false of all
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false gods and some of us are totally devoted to it sacrifice to it and worship it oh is that
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your son on the thumbnail i just saw it now oh he's so cute the um okay i think that's all of
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so do you think from your perspective going into family court would you advise young men not to
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have children i think uh if you have children in a conjugal relationship you are in the family court
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system so yeah i advise men not to have children in conjugal relationships
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okay um adoption might be an option you don't want to have somebody on the other side that can
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sue you and take your children from you yeah what or surrogacy i think is an option that's becoming
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incredibly popular um i had a bunch of my followers from x contact me uh last year and i went down to
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austin i met with about a dozen of them and all of them are going to mexico and argentina to get
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surrogates yeah uh there's a huge movement in the uk that's building there's actually companies
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being formed to help men do this in the uk um and it's all just a direct res and here's what they
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told me i'm just you know i'm kind of like the guy just passing along i'm too old to probably
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do this kind of stuff but they they basically said look this is not something people can argue
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us out of we watched our fathers living out of their cars we watched our fathers be made homeless
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we watched uh our our mothers take us away from our fathers and not let us see if we saw what
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happened to them you can't like argue you can't give me a religious argument and talk me out of
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that you can't give me some reasonable way to like i they physically observed it with their own eyes
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they know what actually happens and what can happen and they want to avoid it and i think
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they're wise to do that and i think the country doesn't know what to do because if men aren't
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paying child support and alimony what will they do with all of these women that have just made
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really bad life decisions in terms of debt um having kids with guys that don't want to be fob
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you know that don't want to be like what i think the question like the country is asking is what
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will they like they don't want to see homeless women like they would rather see homeless men
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even if it's not the fault of their own than women there's no doubt about that um i think that most
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homelessness that's is driven by drug use and mental problems but i think all the other
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homelessness other than those things are driven by the family court system i'll tell you how it
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happens i i used to go down to dallas county because i got so pissed off about it they'll
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just line up black men up on the fourth floor in dallas county uh of the courthouse the title 4d
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courts are up there they'll just line them up the line goes down the stairway and out the building
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and they just literally have a pipeline sending all of them into this into the jail for not paying
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child support and what happens is they roll off the title 4d program and they roll on to the prison
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reimbursement program which is 93 a day so the state what happens when you enter the system is
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you become you become a ward of the state and a money maker for the state they're happy to just
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throw you in jail these men get tired of going six months in jail a year out six months in jail
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a year out on child support issues. So what they do is they just burn their ID card and become
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homeless and live free. And I've talked to many, many men downtown Dallas who've done just that.
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So it's driving huge social problems. And I don't think we as a society yet
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have the ability to hold women responsible for themselves. And until that day comes,
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Um, it, the, the, the system is such that young men, you just can't enter the system.
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You cannot contemplate even entering the system because it will completely destroy you.
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And not to mention the men that get drug problems because, you know, like I'll interview guys
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Um, they don't even want to make more money because the court will just increase child
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So it's very, they don't even have a will to live.
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And so, you know, some of them, the drug problems stemmed from having contact with family court.
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I mean, I would actually say that it is not a metaphorical form of enslavement.
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I mean, they beat you and put you in a cage if you don't do what they tell you to do.
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and all of the pathologies that you would expect of a slave appear uh with men out of family court
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and what i get frustrated with is the religious um like the traditional conservatives will shame
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men for not like manning up and like the way they phrase it it's like man up and marry these women
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but you're the state's pointing a gun to their head so i mean for me 18 years is a long time
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or even if she does it after a couple years 10 years 12 years i mean that can completely destroy
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your life so if you're 30 and that happens to you you're not getting off until you're 48.
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yeah your prospects of running a business or having a retirement are going to be destroyed
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and it's it's not just that either it's let's say you decide to stay in the marriage the way
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these trads want people to let's say you stay in these marriages right i know men that are actually
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in this position um these guys are alpha male types too um they step and fetch for their wives
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whatever their wives tell them to do they do you know why because they're they're going to lose
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millions of dollars in their business they're going to be homeless they're not going to see
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their kids their kids lives are going to be destroyed so they it puts men in a position
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where um in a marriage they don't have any control these trads don't get it
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like when you marry you may think you have control but the actual physical legal control is all from
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the wife so there is no way in our current system to have a traditional marriage with a man who's
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head of the household it's impossible well and the challenge i had was at first i thought it was maybe
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a certain type of woman that men you know because men might hear your story and if she had previous
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kids they might say oh well of course that's going to happen you married a single mother right but
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that's not even a deterrent like i would meet women like one of the worst divorces i ever saw
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was a woman that was in a traditional latin mass community she was from michael knowles's um
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actual uh community in california and that was the worst like that was probably the worst divorce
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story um minus you actually might yours is probably worse but right up there right one of the worst
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i'd ever seen where like his kid didn't even speak his same language and she was from eastern europe
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she was at a traditional lat like what more did they want she was young and it it's like even
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i would find that women from traditional muslim countries because i was in london when i started
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this so i would find women from literal like the parts of the world they say the women are better
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at which they might be but i would find the same like patterns it was like as soon as they got
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leverage it was just too easy to do you know i've submitted this before i've said look if you gave
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men the same power in family court i'm pretty sure men would misuse it on a grand scale as well
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if you give people this kind of power this unilateral power it's going to happen you brought
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up michael knowles i i really i watched your interview with him twice and i don't normally
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do things like that and i was fascinated by it because there was a subterfuge going on
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that knowles knew about um you know when noels used the word marriage he meant holy matrimony
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he meant the sacrament of marriage when you were talking about marriage you're talking about the
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marriage that we all have to live with in the legal system right um and what i thought the
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conversation that i think um noel's averted by that little ploy was how the current legal system
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destroys holy matrimony and how it's not really possible under this legal system
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it basically creates a situation where every incentive of the woman is to sin
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and you know we know that there was a time hey pearl call me crazy there was a time i remember
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when conservatives used to understand incentives they talked about incentives in the welfare system
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and all that but suddenly when we talk about incentives when it comes to marriage they act
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like there's no incentives for women to divorce and it's just completely ridiculous the trads
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drive me insane well and it would drive me crazy because they they would always want to go to
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the you're not catholic enough argument and it's i'm not attempting to attack the religion you
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know it's just i'm not blind like i grew up in a catholic area i would say most i went to catholic
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school my whole life and they i saw women do the same thing like did you want me to not notice
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like i don't i don't and then it's always well if you went to a traditional latin mass community like
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if you went to my special church and then it was like two weeks after that interview i literally
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found someone from his special church i wish i did it before because i would have had that but
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i was like i found a guy that went to your special church the same thing happened
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so i don't know like i don't think that's a deterrent when you give women guns like because
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we can be emotional at times like who you know and it's just like when you pay women to do the
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wrong thing i'm not surprised that women of all races religions and socioeconomic backgrounds do
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it of course yeah absolutely incentives matter people respond to incentives like i said conservatives
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used to know that they used to build they used to build their whole policy program on on that basis
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um you know one of the things too that bothers me all the time is when i talk to i'm worth it i'm
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I'm an Orthodox Christian. So I talk to a lot of Christians. They say a lot of the same things,
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you know, it's about picking the right woman. You just need to pick the right woman.
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And there's two versions of this. One is the long courtship, you know, version, which says,
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if you just vet a woman long enough, you know, you can prevent all this risk. And the other one is,
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if you're just alpha male enough, you can prevent all this risk, you know. And of course, you know,
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we've got all these alpha males you know celebrities and sports stars that that have
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these horrible divorces and their lives are ruined and they're about as alpha as they come
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but i think that that fundamentally what's missing from the christian analysis the modern
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christian analysis is this women have free will and modern christians want to deny that
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they want to act like women have no moral agency and they don't have a will and um and somehow if
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you're just alpha enough and christian enough you can take away the free will of your wife
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well and it's just a preposterous idea well and the one study they always say is like if you pray
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every day with your wife that she won't leave but okay how does that go so you say dear we're going
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to pray today and she says no right please pray today she says no again are you going to put a
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gun to her head what you can't how do you do it or she says i really want to leave and you say no
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we're not leaving we're staying married and she says no i want to leave take your children all
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your stuff and in your case transition your child and you say no we're not doing that well what are
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you supposed to out alpha the state uh yes good luck i mean you're you're probably doing a better
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job than most guys in that situation with getting laws passed but even even in your case it's
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incredibly difficult like it's not i passed the laws in texas to protect my son and then the
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courts let her move to california where there's no law yeah i mean how much more can i do earl
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like i mean honestly yeah i mean i've spent i spent 1.6 million dollars trying to stop this
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boy from being castrated i spent 200 000 of my own money trying to get a law passed to protect him
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that's not enough i'm just going to tell you if i can't do it nobody can do it you got to stay out
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of the system yeah and the crazy thing is a lot of these guys they don't know that men close to
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them it's happening to because men just aren't really loud about this kind of thing like there
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is one person there's one media personality i had this argument with where his drive he would
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always say like men need to man up be more out like the same arguments they use he doesn't even
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know his driver is going through this like his driver told me on the way from the airport i
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don't want to say the name but like it's like his driver's going through the exact same thing and he
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they don't even it sounds like it might be up in the northeast somewhere but yeah i get i get you
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yeah oh you might know them i might know i know yeah i might even know the driver yeah really
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nice like real like what was he supposed to do he was young like he didn't know nothing yeah
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Like one of the reasons that I have just decided I'm not paying child support, for example, is I just, as a moral issue, I can't have my resources go to castrate my kid.
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I, you know, I decided that when all this started, I decided one, I was never going to lie in court.
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And two, I decided that I was never going to model immoral behavior for my son.
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and three, that my resources would never be used to hurt my son.
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So I'm at that point where I may have to just sit in prison
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But I'm just not going to participate in hurting my kid.
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The family courts are going to throw me in prison
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And I'm just telling you, if a system is that cracked,
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and our prospects of reforming it are at best decades off and i don't know that it can be
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reformed it's at best decades off i just i don't know because that's the same thought i had because
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i i there's too many women that have just made really bad life choices where they have a ton
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of debt and the only solution i think the government's going to come up with is to have
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men bail them out. They just can't. I would be surprised if we see homeless women in my lifetime.
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And if we do, I think they're going to legalize prostitution because that's the only way I think
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they'll get out of it. You're right. I mean, I don't think a lot of people know. Child support
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is the largest transfer of wealth in the United States. And it's almost all from men to women.
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and um it keeps women off the welfare rolls and the the government knows that it's going to have
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to pick up the difference if men don't pay child support it's one of the reasons why i'm thinking
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about i what are your thoughts on this i mean um i'm not i'm obviously not paying child support
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for moral reasons but i've done the math in texas i think it's probably fairly applicable to other
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states once you if 15 of men in texas stopped paying child support the whole system would
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collapse they wouldn't be able to pay for the attorney general's attorneys to sue men for child
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support the court systems would portions of the court system would become defunded i'm wondering
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if civil disobedience isn't a way to maybe get a rapid change in the system or at least some
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accommodations in the system what do you think so you've done could you get men to do it for one
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thing that's the question i have because i'm thinking of it from an individual guy um
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maybe but you you'd have to be you'd have to really sell it as if this would be effective
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so i think that would be the challenge you'd have to convince men that enough men would do it and
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and that it would be effective because you're going to go to jail if you do you're going to go
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to jail yeah you know it's a civil rights kind of era thing you have to be willing to go to jail
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well and how would you communicate that to enough men like do you think you could get
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enough traction on somewhere like twitter or the media like what what would be the way that you
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would communicate that to enough men i i think uh the most of our guys are not heavy social media
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users i mean i think most of them have to work two and three jobs you know they're not living
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on twitter or whatever what i what i would probably do is and i can probably make something
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like this i've thought about doing it some some system that would automatically go through public
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court records and get the names and addresses of men who are paying child support and just
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use that as a giant mailing list to create a political movement of men who are enslaved to the
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state and basically model it on a slave revolt is that public record it is public really oh yeah
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oh i did not know that that could actually that could potentially work
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yeah i think you could get in texas you could probably get one and a half million names um
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you know if you could mobilize that's enough that's enough votes that you could probably
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get some change going you know um but i think civil disability like for example i was put under a gag
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order uh prior to this ruling like i got the ruling yesterday prior to yesterday this podcast
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would have been illegal every podcast i've done would have been illegal because i was under a
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gag order saying i couldn't do any podcasts newspaper interviews television interviews
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it was a lifetime ban from all media i wasn't even allowed to write articles for newspapers
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or anything like as a total totally illegal and unconstitutional gag order
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um it was violating that gag order that was the basis for giving me supervised visitation
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and it was an illegal order to begin with um so you know i i just told the judge three times in
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court in dallas county i told bloody mary you know i am not going to follow the gag order it's illegal
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and I have contempt for the text of the order because it's offensive to me as a Texan
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and I have contempt for you as a judge for issuing the order because you violated the Texas
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Constitution so I'm in maximum contempt of court and you're obligated to give me 18 months in the
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loose Derrick County jail and I begged her to put me in jail and she wouldn't she wouldn't put me in
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jail in contempt because she knew I'd go up on habeas corpus and win because it's a totally
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illegal order she'd rather it sit there as evidence that she could use in temporary orders
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to take my kids away from you see what i mean so you have a situation where even in court civil
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disobedience can lose your kids i mean you know standing up for your rights in fact if if i if
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there are if there are young men who are in family court right now i would suggest pearl that um
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um that they uh go gently with the judges and go along with what the judge wants and try to make
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incremental changes over a period of about five years to improve their standing with their kids
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fighting the way i did uh you know creates a lot of uh a lot of uh opposition from the entire
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judiciary uh not just the judge that you're with now in my case i didn't have a choice because
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they're going to castrate my kid you know but if you're in a situation it's probably best to be
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less strident you know what i think you gotta get a hold elon musk replied to you has he messaged you
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at all he has not messaged me yet um uh he's been in the same situation you know his his child is
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alienated from him um and what does it say though that a guy as powerful as elon musk loses his kid
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to this yeah in family court what is the average what chance does the average guy have none well
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what i'm what i'm wondering is if you because i think it would help you if you had funding
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um not here we're demonetized guys go to the audacity network.com
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not here but i was thinking if you got a hold of elon musk somehow i mean more resources couldn't
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hurt have you messaged him at all i have not i have not i you know i hate to i hate to like
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message him and bring up memories of his kid you know i just i feel bad for him man um i've watched
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him talk about it and his heart is pained by it man yeah he really is hurt by it um one one he
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he's kind of like me he's he's he likes being a dad you know he enjoys kids and he likes being a dad
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um but you know maybe i'll do that you know that maybe that's a wise piece of advice to talk to
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about i mean it's worth a shot and i think some people when it affected them personally it makes
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them feel better about it if they're actually doing something to change it yeah worst worst
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case he leaves you on scene you know yeah that's right um that's right i have some comments i'm
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gonna read pearl have you ever seen maryland york the men's rights attorney i think i have
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is that the woman that has like the commercials that are kind of funny and it's something like
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is your wife nagging on you are you at the ball like something like that if that's her i've seen
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those but it was a while ago tony says question for him do you recommend men to avoid trying to
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date or have children yeah i think uh you do not want to have children in this system you have to
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find a way to have children outside the system dating is perilous um let me give you uh an
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example of someone i actually know in houston uh this this this involves some lgbt issues too
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he had a co-worker ask him out for a coffee turned out the co-worker was gay and and was
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actually hitting on him and he just said hey man i'm straight you know appreciate the coffee and
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everything patted him on the shoulder and left so in texas we have this uh kind of assault
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called assault by contact and it just means offensive touching um this guy got a domestic
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violence conviction for uh for offensive touching because it was said to have occurred in a dating
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relationship so i don't think a lot of men know all the domestic violence laws that are used
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against men in marriage can be used against you in a dating relationship the way they've defined
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a domestic relationship includes dating so you have a lot of the risks that you have in marriage
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you don't have the risk of losing your property and all that stuff but you do have the false
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domestic violence accusation problem in dating so be very careful is what i would advise what
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do you say to the men um that say that that'll never happen to me your odds of that happening
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There have been a lot of studies done on false rape accusations, which I think are are, you know, a lot worse and more rare than domestic violence accusations.
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the air force did a study i think back in the 90s and found that over 80 of those accusations
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could be proved false like that's with video evidence or dna evidence they didn't include
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ones that couldn't be proved false they so these are the ones that can prove false so it turns out
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that false domestic violence accusations probably have an occurrence higher than insurance fraud
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which is the most common crime in the world so you you can tell yourself that it's one in a
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million but again what you're what they're relying on is this belief that women don't
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have free will and they don't respond to incentives if a woman gets mad at you and
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wants to hurt you this is the easiest way for her to do it and she will you know another thing that
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i think would potentially be effective i think men should put women on child support and alimony
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as much as they can because there's nothing we're better at than complaining right and if enough
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women because women are starting to make more money how they're making more money
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who cares but they're they're we're making more money now so essentially there's more of an
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opportunity for men to put women on child support like you know that bad bunny woman who made like
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50 million on only fans yes i mean if enough high profile women get put on child support
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you know you could i i could see the laws maybe becoming more fair because women would complain
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so much and we just tend to get our way more this is one reason why i support equal shared parenting
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laws because the child support that these laws advocate considers the income of both parents
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and the amount of parent parenting time of both parents and what you're saying is exactly what
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we notice that women begin to pay more women wind up paying child support more often and suddenly
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we get calls for child support reform in those states you know um no problem gets solved in
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america unless it's a problem for women so i think it's always wise to make it a problem
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for women if you want change yeah um the next comment was i spent two hours with my son on his
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10th birthday after paying his mom thousands of dollars i don't even know where they live by 2028
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he'll be 16. i've only had two years with him since he was a little boy jacob bratek says yes
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marilyn is the one with the funny commercials i think she'll be good to interview i think i've
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have messaged her before i don't think she responded um well do you think there's anything
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young men should know about the laws that maybe we haven't gone over um anything that people can
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do to support your case well we we haven't talked about paternity fraud which is still a huge
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problem uh and we haven't talked about maternity fraud maternity fraud is when a woman you know
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says that she's on child support but really is a child um sorry contraception but really isn't
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so these kinds of fraud are absolutely rampant you know and in texas until i think it was 2006
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if you were the husband um in a marriage and there was a child born in that marriage by your wife
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it was presumed yours and there was nothing you could do about it
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um in 2006 we got laws that said you could challenge that with a dna test but only for
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one year after one year you can't challenge it again and so millions of men in texas are paying
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child support for children that aren't even theirs so that's another risk that you that you
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have when you get married and i don't think young men get this you can get married your wife can
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have an affair and have a children by another man and make you pay and raise it.
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And after a year, there's nothing you can do about it.
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You just have to pay for another man's kid.
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So there's there's risks like that, which are just enormously psychologically damaging
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And there's nothing worse than a woman divorces you, takes your kids, marries another man
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who's now raising your kids and you have to pay money into his household while he has sex with
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your wife and raises your kids like that's the future risk that you're looking at um when it
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comes to helping me you're you know the best way to help me if you're interested in this issue and
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you you care about kids that this is happening to just work in your own community and get these
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things outlawed keep this stuff out of your schools get a law passed in your state the way
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So California has the transgender kidnapping bill.
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So when my son crossed the border of California,
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You know, if a child enters the border of Texas,
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It'll never happen, no matter what a court orders.
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So we need to get our state laws being at least as efficacious as the laws of the pro-trans community.
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And the other thing is just, you know, I think normalize criticizing trans and kids in public.
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The fact is, I polled this issue in Texas and California.
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80% of Democrats don't think you should trans kids.
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so we're in the great majority of people and we need to normalize criticism of it
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that's what you can do for me is just make your own community safe for kids
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well thank you so much for coming on today i'm really sorry that this happened to you
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this entire story you're probably of all that i've heard i'm probably going to give you like
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the worst um story of her i had one guy in a similar position but he ended up winning in court
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by some miracle of god um where can the people support you find you find me on on x uh it's at
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jeff younger show i don't actually have a show that was just uh i felt my life had become so
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public i felt like i was in the truman show so i called it the jeff younger show
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So, and you can find me at my Substack where I write in-depth articles about family court
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reform, about female hypergamy and the implications for young men.
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I hope, you know, maybe you get a new judge or something.
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well thank you i really enjoy your show and it was really great to actually be on it thank you
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yeah thank you so much um guys also if you want we have so much footage of interviewing guys
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that are divorced or had had negative contact with family court the challenge is we were
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demonetized a year ago so we only have one editor that you know edits the show the clips
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of law anything we do and it can make it difficult to focus on the documentary full-time
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the way we want to combat this is we want to raise enough money to get a second editor and
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potentially high-profile guests that could also be a part of this documentary we have all the
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footage that's the challenge so i put the link to that in the description if you want to donate
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would be awesome um also the audacity network.com you can support us by a monthly or yearly
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membership and I do read your chats um which I have one more which is Faisal says
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um it all began when I rejected the judge orders supervised visitation Tony said how would one
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have children outside the system the answer I know surrogacy may be a country that has more
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affair laws i think those are really your only options um maybe adoption i've heard though that
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the um yeah adoption i've heard though that um men that go overseas can still be subject to u.s
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laws i saw a video the other day that said some guy spent a ton of money because a woman in eastern
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europe used like the u.s extradite law i don't know the ins and outs but i'm not sure that's a
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sure thing um and i think that's all the comments that i have yeah marilyn is good okay guys please
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