Pearl - October 12, 2025
Feminism: Brought to You by OF.
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Summary
The evolution of gender and feminism is a source of endless debate in popular culture. I tackle the issue head on in my new book, woke is dead, which includes some essential wisdom on the subject, but one question I admittedly did not tackle specifically, was this one: can you be an only-fan model and a feminist? To which feminist Farah Khalidi says you can, and that she is living proof of it.
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she's lucky she's black because they just give black women things
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i oh my god both of these women just think they are smarter than they are oh it's
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so i just thought this was hilarious uh watching this debate and it was just two
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going at each other it was like a off like you're a bigger
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no you're a bigger so we're gonna react to this
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nothing feminist about what you do you're basically you've just cut out the middleman
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and you're commodifying the female body there's nothing empowering about that
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here's my question to you why is it not degrading to get naked for your husband if it's degrading
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to get naked for public men that's the most important thing is it because you assume your
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husband's more likely to respect because your husband is the man in your life mostly to beat
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rape and murder you your husband's the man in your life who 58 percent of it yeah probably
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because you drove him to it i mean can you imagine can you imagine having this at home
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this nagging tone yeah i mean some men snap because we are just so insufferable time is
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going to cheat on you my only worry is that what it's become is a kind of genuine career
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path for a lot of young girls who might look at this and think all i need to do is stop
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an only fans account take my clothes off and a bunch of guys will pay money to watch me do
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my thing in a webcam or whatever it is a british philosopher once said you can't spread your bum
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hole on a saturday and then expect to be treated as a professional on a monday
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the evolution of gender and feminism is a source of endless debate in popular culture i tackle the
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issue head on in my new book woke is dead which includes some essential wisdom on the subject i
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look forward to debating it one question i admittedly did not think of tackling specifically
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was this one can you be an only fans model and a feminist farah khalidi says you can and that she
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is living proof of it men pay to look at explicit content blaming the women is just hypocritical
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esther kraku however vehemently disagrees so when we heard that both esther and farah could be in the
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same studio at the same time we thought what a perfect opportunity for a lively debate on this
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subject so welcome to both of you uh esther of course i know you very well farah we've never met
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we last appeared in a debate you were down the line and we're talking about lord's provocative new
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album which featured a woman's pubic uh hair i believe on the cover and you took a screenshot of
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our exchange uh let's look at the clip first i think there's nothing sexual about it i don't disagree
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with some of what you just said but clearly this is intended to be sexual i mean it's not you know
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you don't you don't literally i don't think it is i i don't think it is really and that
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oh my god what did this is pierce morgan turned it into maury
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you you know what is this ghetto oh my gosh i'll have that as the banner for your
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ex account i i thought it was a funny screen grab it looks like you were my father confronting me with
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something you found on my instagram and i was like looking away coyly um you could also tell
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i only own one one one dress so basically you're using me to promote your your account so i'm hoping
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for a share of this spoils of course yeah thank you you understand that yeah yeah okay good um let's
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get serious for a moment so only fans is a massive business generating billions of dollars a lot of
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people doing all sorts of different things on there it's not just about you know women doing sex work
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whatever they want to call it how would you categorize what you do on only fans i mean
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my content isn't necessarily that extreme but i i definitely don't want brownie points from people
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who are eager to shame the women who do more extreme content so when i go on platforms i just
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call myself a digital prostitute because you know i want the backlash for it so a digital prostitute
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a prostitute yeah what does that mean you know like an e-girl or an e-boy i just call myself like
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an e-prostitute like it's online it's not actually physical or in the real world or tangible but it's virtual
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and do you actually have do you have sex on on your platform or not no i'm actually a virgin really
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wow my name is bull what you don't believe it absolutely not
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oh why would she lie well i just i don't know what the connection pierce
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are you that come on were you born yesterday come on pierce why would she lie please action
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is between again i i mean that's why i partly are you being serious are you i'm being dead ass and
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that's partly why i do only fans is because i'm trying to point out that like you could be a virgin
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in a way that isn't about purity culture or religion you could be a virgin in a feminist way which means
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you don't want to bite the bullet and you know um just join hookup culture or just put out just because
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society tells you to and i think it's really unfortunate that religious conservatism has a
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monopoly on abstinence culture because 45 of women regret their first time 30 of women regret like
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a sexual experience in the last 12 months right so i'm very interested in carving out a space for
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secular women non-religious women feminist women to also know that they can hold on to their chastity
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if they want to in a way that doesn't align with the toxic purity culture how how old do you know
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i'm 26 26 yeah so esther why would you not believe her when she says she's a virgin i don't know many
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virgins that strip off and call themselves e-prostitutes i think it's quite rare it doesn't mean she's not
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what the hell happened to esther's eyes holy that botox is not looking good holy i mean it's it's it's
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definitely a unique perspective can i just ask why so it's empowering to take your kit off and i'm
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assuming i don't know how extensive your what kind of things you do on your i mean don't look
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categorized for those you've never seen i mean you just gotta subscribe and see i would say you know
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absolutely not that's a good marketing though subscribe and see but subscribe and see i mean
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i offer a girlfriend it's so crazy it's so crazy because by platforming these girls you're essentially
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driving more money to their only fans um i'm not i can't really judge i mean i've had my share of
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only fans women on the shows but this is it's just crazy experience you could come on and i'll pretend
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to be your girlfriend for a little while pretend to not be repulsed by you um i offer slutty photos
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and videos and yeah i just don't know what the connection is to virginity you know there there really
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is no well i guess if you're massively sexualizing yourself there'll be a presumption
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that you've had sex and it's quite interesting to me that you say you've never you've never had sex
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yeah well that's kind of the whole point right that's what i'm saying is like people are unable
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to conceive of virginity outside of just wanting to appeal to the male gaze and being attractive to men
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and i'm not a virgin because i think it'll make me more appealing in the dating market i'm a virgin
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because most women regret their first time they regret betting the bullet and our dating pool is full of
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horrible men and i think women should wait more so that they're not just going through that ringer of
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sexual regret esther i'm really speechless peers you are that's kind of funny yeah okay so the thing is
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women like esther are going to try to sell purity to some extent but they're really not pure i mean
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she's i mean she's gonna be around 30 i would say you know and she's gonna have like obviously her tits
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out and like no bra you know what i mean and this is a public instagram that's associated with her
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business and it makes perfect sense that she's gonna um you know monetize her looks as best she can
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because you're just gonna oh my gosh back in 2023 i was put on a government watch list for
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speaking out about men's issues the government spent who knows how much money trying to shut me up
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and honestly to some extent it worked i was demonetized on youtube i had three instagram
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accounts deleted seven tiktok accounts wiped out and i was forced to delete three years worth of work
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videos interviews everything the more honest i was the harder i was punished and eventually i had to
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shut down my show move back home and completely start over but i'm not giving up this time we're
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doing things differently i've created my own app a space where free speech actually means free speech
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on this app you'll not only get access to all my old content but you'll also help shape our future
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a movement a network that refuses to be silenced the link is in the description join us and be a
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part of something that fights back against censorship now let's talk bigger picture why don't we have
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choose free speech in america anymore welcome to the female economy where women make 80 of consumer
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buying decisions have you ever wondered why women always seem to get their way well here's the truth
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men tend to care about the free flow of ideas men can separate an idea from the person who said it
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but women on the other hand have learned that they can control what gets said by controlling what gets
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funded platforms like youtube have one goal they want to make money and if that means catering to the
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majority female audience they will that's why being a conservative creator today feels impossible
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this isn't just about me it's about the future of online speech with the audacity network me and my
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community will never have to worry about being silenced again uh okay because but because um
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she's gonna make more money that way and get more suitors i mean having a good rack obviously is gonna
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get her more attention so in a way the farah girl is smarter because esther's you know she's probably
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banging road men for free um i mean that's what they call the hood i just could see her going for
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these hood dudes you don't you don't good work thanks okay thank you but i just you know all right
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i think i'm actually speechless so you don't have a response well no it's not i don't have a response
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first of all this this ideology i mean look it's your personal belief and you can obviously do what you
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want with your body i'm just confused what you find empowering about showing pictures of your anus
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on the internet can you explain that i can well first of all i just want to point out that like
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it's really interesting to me that the first time the culture and men specifically are interested in
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talking about like the morality of sex work and how it's degrading to women and its effects on like
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the social fabric and namely its effects on relationships it's conveniently once women like
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me started turning a seven-figure profit off of it right up until the advent of only fans it was
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exclusively feminist it was exclusive but there's nothing feminist about what you do you do realize
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as i was saying it was exclusively women it was no i would say in a way it is feminist because
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she gets to be high status she gets freedom from men so she doesn't have to go to a man to make
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decisions and she gets to be as naked as she wants and still be somewhat high status in society to the
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point that she's on pierce morgan i would say that's pretty feminist if i'm being honest um
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exclusively feminists who are the sole critics of porn hub it was exclusively women who would
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protest things like playboy like andrea dworkin put out a book on porn saying men possessing women
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and in response playboy churned out these uh cartoons depicting her other women basically calling
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her a dyke and a man hitting right anytime women protested pornography men said that you are
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vilifying male sexuality and men were so eager to make uh porn anonymous with male sexuality right
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and i just think it's interesting now she's just saying mumbo jumbo to rationalize her being a
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prostitute i mean she is a prostitute so i would agree with her you are a digital prostitute um
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that's all i got what you do like your your customer base are men you sell the girlfriend
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experiences to other women um i do have some lesbians on there yeah okay but it's predominantly
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men and i don't think there's there's absolutely nothing feminist about what you do you're basically
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you've just cut out the middleman but you're basically working in the patriarchal economy
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and you're commodifying the female body there's nothing empowering about that i don't know what your
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definition of empowerment is but empowerment is not momentary autonomy which is basically what
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you do i can do what i want every human being should be able to do what they want because that's
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by virtue of being a human being you should have a freedom over your body empowerment is is composed
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of three things one it's yes exercising autonomy when you want uh it's two being able to make those
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choices responsibly and to live with the consequences oh my gosh oh my gosh
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esther's kind of fat number one i can't believe this woman called me fat
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maybe maybe that's a different girl she doesn't look fat there no that's a different girl
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which i i don't think you actually can or really contemplate it
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i agree like the third thing is making choices that don't limit opportunities that you have in
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the future that's there's nothing in power it seems to my best it it's not it but here's what she's
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getting wrong because we're in this weird like female economy it's not going to really limit her
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choices in the future if anything women's sexuality expands them do you think kim kardashian will be
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where she's at if she didn't sexualize herself um there's some there at times it does blow up in
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women's faces but uh i don't think she would have the option to make that much money as like a mid chick
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to play devil's advocate it seems like she ticks all those boxes you would say right i mean you
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you know what you're doing you're taking responsibility for it i'm not a choice feminist
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i think choice feminism is intellectually lazy i think the choices you make okay what there's
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there's choice feminism now that's that's an interesting intellectualization please continue
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no no i say i'm not a choice feminist i thought you were saying you were against
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like you were just saying that like okay me saying my body my choice isn't morally interesting
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enough but i'm saying there's nothing feminist about what you do because i have
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they really should have given me this job she's lucky she's black because they just give black
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women things i oh my god both of these women just think they are smarter than they are oh it's
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crazy it has nothing to do with female empowerment all you've done all you've done is cut out why is
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the whole point of a feminist empowerment that actually a woman can do what she wants with her body
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no i actually don't even agree with that no it's not it's not wow here would be my question to you
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why is it not degrading to get naked for your husband if it's degrading to get naked for public
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men that's a very simple answer is it because you assume your husband's more likely to respect
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because your husband is the man in your life most likely to beat rape and murder you okay number one
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on average you're just not what are your chances what are my chances of getting murdered
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or beat by my husband okay so i asked grok what this said it said i'm sorry you're asking this it sounds
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like you're in a deeply painful and frightening situation and no need to live with fear okay
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all right what are my chance i just want to know oh my gosh all right out of stop giving me the
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okay out of a hundred marriages how many women are beat by their husbands or murdered
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so it's saying about 20 women experience physical abuse
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intimate yeah because again women call abuse everything
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so i guess they're saying out of 120 women are going to claim abuse that's the challenge is
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when you get into debates with these people they're always going to bring up these stats
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that we know are right we all know that men aren't really beating their wives like that
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but just anecdotally right just just with our eyes but they'll gaslight you and say to believe women
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