Pearl - February 04, 2025


Feminist Only Want Equality When It Benefits Them | The Sitdown


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In this episode, we discuss the differences between women and men in the workplace, abortion, abortion access, and pregnancy. We also discuss the unequal division of child care and domestic labor, and the unequal wage gap between men and women.

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00:00:00.000 if men's jobs disappeared tomorrow society would crumble if women's jobs disappeared tomorrow 1.00
00:00:06.160 society would be fine oh really who's going to raise all the children do you think society
00:00:12.480 discriminates more against men or women or do you think it's equal i think that they discriminate
00:00:17.520 more against women but i don't that's not to say that men aren't discriminated against
00:00:21.920 um in some aspects okay how are women more discriminated against um as i've said before 0.94
00:00:27.200 um in my own personal experience and statistically other than other than can we do something other
00:00:32.000 than just people say mean words to me because men by the time they're 22 somebody said a mean
00:00:37.760 word to them usually it's a woman so anything other than somebody said something i don't like
00:00:44.080 abortion vans can you name a law that controls what men can do and access health care and the
00:00:51.200 health care that men can access is there any laws that control men's health care access well if you
00:00:56.240 want to talk about men's body men are required to go into selective service so if there is a war
00:01:01.680 time they are required to be drafted yeah and i think that the draft should be abolished so you asked
00:01:06.320 for a law there's a law there's a way that women's bodies aren't protected there's a way men's bodies 1.00
00:01:10.800 aren't protected no so it's actually my question was different my question was can you name a law
00:01:15.200 that restricts men's access to health care that restricts men's access to health care no not off the
00:01:22.240 top of my head so there you go that's one discrimination how are women restricted 1.00
00:01:27.280 access to health care you can drive to another state and get an abortion yeah well then that's 1.00
00:01:31.920 also not taking into account like socioeconomic factors right because not every person has the
00:01:36.640 ability or the funds or the time to be able to just cross state lines to gain access we shouldn't have
00:01:43.680 different health care access in different states your your geographical location should not determine
00:01:48.960 your access to a human right okay well again luckily for women we have access to birth control 1.00
00:01:56.800 abstinence and even you can even track your cycle and not get pregnant so i think there's plenty of
00:02:04.480 options beforehand that it really isn't an excuse if you have an unplanned pregnancy so actually about
00:02:10.720 50 percent of unplanned pregnancies used protection and so that's just well then you should learn to 0.81
00:02:17.600 use it better and the other and the other the other thing is after the kids born you could argue that
00:02:22.320 it's an equally irresponsible move when men and women have unprotected sex or there's some problem
00:02:29.600 with the birth control fine equally irresponsible but after the woman has more control she has the right 0.98
00:02:36.240 to get she's the only one who gets to decide if she takes a plan b she's the only one that gets to 0.99
00:02:40.240 decide to put them on child support or alimony if they're married um men don't have a right to their 0.99
00:02:47.760 wallets after the kid is born yeah so pregnancy involves your body and your internal organs and
00:02:55.680 that is worth more than any money yeah but that's okay that's nine months a year what about the rest of
00:03:02.320 the time what about 18 years after right and so then there's like two years after that that you're
00:03:07.520 breastfeeding and then there's the unequal division of child care and domestic labor so it's so much
00:03:14.000 more than nine months but to but to go back we cannot minimize that nine months having your body be not
00:03:20.720 your own for nine months is nine months too long yeah but there are men dying when they go and do their jobs
00:03:27.840 and they're not complaining about it they can get a different job no because men understand that somebody
00:03:33.040 has to do it yeah they don't they they understand well that's why it's admirable that they do it
00:03:39.600 anyway and they don't complain and that's what i keep going back to is what feminists tend to want is 1.00
00:03:45.920 they want all of the credit and they want to over exaggerate their problems so i would actually like to
00:03:51.360 go back to the comparison you made of pregnancy and men going to work do you think those two things are the
00:03:57.920 same i think that a man going to a dangerous job is far worse than a woman being pregnant and do you
00:04:05.440 think that the majority of far far more dangerous i'll say that's more accurate better and good is
00:04:10.560 like it's subjective right yeah and as i've said before i think that we should have better safety
00:04:16.960 protocols and we should improve the safety of all workers so i think that that should be addressed
00:04:21.600 but also the majority should but it isn't right like are you arguing for it to be i here here's
00:04:27.760 the difference okay so feminists have a tendency to think that if we complain things will just happen 1.00
00:04:34.240 and i'm more realistic where i know that just because we say oh it should be better well it's not
00:04:40.560 so and men understand that because they have had to deal with that reality from a young age you
00:04:47.440 recognize that the only reason you have a microphone and you have a show is because feminists complained 1.00
00:04:53.040 because we wanted a voice that's not true it actually is it's not true there's writers there's
00:04:57.920 writers there's female writers in the 1800s and they had to write under male pseudonyms it's not true 0.54
00:05:03.920 it is true well you can say it's not true but it's it's history and it's statistics it is that's not true
00:05:10.720 it is we we used to not have cleopatra we had women in power throughout all of history there are examples of
00:05:16.800 them when the first female property owner was in the 1600s in the united states when were women 1.00
00:05:22.560 allowed to have their own bank accounts women were allowed to have their own bank accounts in 19 1.00
00:05:29.760 what what does that have to do with writing you're changing the topic no no i'm not you're changing
00:05:33.680 the topic because i'm right they were allowed to write they were you're the one who brought up female
00:05:38.640 writers that wasn't okay go ahead go ahead so um sometime in the 1900s i can't remember the year
00:05:45.760 yeah it was like in the 1970s is when women were allowed to have bank accounts so when we're 0.83
00:05:50.480 talking about what's happened since what's happened since we got bank accounts we own 80 we own 80 of
00:05:55.600 the world's debt there's a reason people did things the way they did you don't think that women should 1.00
00:06:00.000 be able to have their own bank accounts i don't think they shouldn't have bank accounts i think everyone
00:06:04.880 should have the should have the right and they do but the re there's a reason i think when we look at
00:06:11.200 the past we have to look at the reason that people did things and one of the reasons is women are very 1.00
00:06:17.360 irresponsible with money they own 80 percent of the world's debt even though they make less money than
00:06:22.640 men so did you know that the majority of household finances are regulated and controlled by women 1.00
00:06:29.680 yeah i knew that we make 80 percent of consumer buying decisions yeah so that's what i said they
00:06:34.480 spend that's what i said they spend money they spend money they don't have we do have the money
00:06:42.560 not anymore i mean the average woman out of college has thirty thousand dollars worth how much debt do you 1.00
00:06:48.160 have you have to have six figures coming out i do have six figures of debt and that's and the student debt
00:06:52.800 yeah because the thing is in your profession i mean on average women leave the medical profession when 1.00
00:06:59.760 they have a kid or within five years so odds are you won't pay it off and it makes i'm not saying you
00:07:05.040 personally i hope you do right i'm not wishing it one way or another but statistically women make their 1.00
00:07:10.640 debt someone else's problem men do the same thing this no they don't so they looked at no they looked at um
00:07:16.800 women paying off their debt and men paying off their college debt and men have been making payments
00:07:21.520 towards it the last five years and women haven't so it's funny because you just mentioned how women 1.00
00:07:26.640 will leave their careers because they have to take care of children and that probably plays a large
00:07:31.920 role into why they're not able to pay back their student debt compared to men who continue to be a
00:07:36.400 part of the workforce even after they have children do you see how those two things like might be correlated
00:07:41.840 no because women aren't having kids anymore that would have been the case maybe the case before but 1.00
00:07:46.800 now they're not really having children we are still having children on average on average it's
00:07:51.440 like 1.5 now so i mean you have one kid you can put it in daycare you can still work you can put it
00:08:00.400 in daycare sorry his or her yeah see and this is the problem is like when we see people as commodities
00:08:06.720 instead of actual people like that's where we run into this thing of like i don't care how you feel 0.98
00:08:11.760 you make stupid decisions instead of taking a nuanced perspective and the complexity of the human 0.93
00:08:17.040 experience and recognizing that there are so many things that contribute into these cherry-picked 1.00
00:08:22.080 statistics well you think that the world owes you understanding and it doesn't i think that it does
00:08:27.120 i think that we owe everybody understanding i think that in order for me so you know what i think that this
00:08:32.640 is something we need to clarify yeah go ahead i partake in these conversations because i want a better
00:08:38.720 world i develop my opinions based on how i think or based on what i think is going to improve the
00:08:46.640 human condition and improve people's um equality of life why do you take part in these conversations
00:08:53.520 i like to report on what's going on okay so you have no desire to improve the world and to be
00:09:00.000 like an advocate for change and progression it would be nice but i don't expect it 0.64
00:09:05.200 see and for me one of my favorite quotes is the people who are crazy enough to think they
00:09:09.360 can change the world are the ones who do and you can call me a dreamer they're the ones who do not
00:09:14.400 i mean historically you're wrong i don't think so martin luther king had a dream didn't he okay but
00:09:20.880 how many guys tried to be martin luther king and failed i'm not i'm not saying that that's a societal
00:09:27.200 issue because we resist progression and you're one of the people who is allowing society to resist progression
00:09:32.640 instead of allowing progression to happen how am i allowing society to what does that even mean
00:09:38.240 yeah so you okay no god god it's fine yeah because you say i see the reality right now and i report on
00:09:45.600 the reality right now and when i say yeah we should recognize what's happening now and improve on it
00:09:51.680 you're you say oh men are dying in the workplace and i'm like okay let's address that let's see why
00:09:56.640 they're doing that let's see how can we can improve on that and then you're like yeah that's not
00:10:00.480 realistic i live in reality where you see how i am advocating for progression i'm advocating for
00:10:06.480 improvement where you're just like yeah you know what that's not the world we live in and i don't
00:10:10.640 have any idea or any desire to improve on the shitty statistics that i constantly report on yeah so i
00:10:18.400 think that sounds nice but again it doesn't change the reality of the situation so you saying something on
00:10:24.560 a podcast doesn't change the amount of men that die every year in a crab fishing boat but what i like
00:10:30.640 to do is be as accurate as i possibly can and that is why i say that women do not do as useful or as 1.00
00:10:37.760 needed jobs in society as men do if men's jobs disappeared tomorrow society would crumble if women's 1.00
00:10:44.960 jobs disappeared tomorrow society would be fine oh really who's going to raise all the children women 1.00
00:10:51.120 aren't even raising their own kids they're in daycare that's actually in daycare in public
00:10:55.600 school that's no it's a billion dollar industry it is a billion dollar industry but statistically women 1.00
00:11:01.840 have the like the majority of child care burden and not a lot of people can afford daycare nowadays
00:11:07.440 well who is the kid spending the most time with if the mom's at work most most mothers work nowadays
00:11:13.520 so the kid is spending more time at school or at daycare yeah because usually school gets out
00:11:18.320 school gets out at like 2 30. it's not the norm people don't really have extended family school
00:11:24.160 gets out at 2 30 or 3. they go to daycare for two or three hours what about before school what about
00:11:29.600 before daycare because a lot of times especially in that first minutes in the morning no no like the
00:11:34.160 first two years of life at least a lot of people aren't sending newborns and like it's not uncommon
00:11:42.240 my sister works at a daycare it's they get newborns like yeah within the first couple right 1.00
00:11:47.120 months all we're talking about like populations right we're talking about like statistics and
00:11:52.960 the majority of people are not sending their average age do you care if i look i'm just curious
00:11:57.360 what is the average age kids go in daycare no that's i actually don't know the answer to that question
00:12:02.640 that wouldn't be the question that i would ask but i'm curious what that answer is okay i'm just curious
00:12:06.720 we recommend kids start daycare as early as six weeks old doesn't give me an average just says kids
00:12:13.360 can start daycare as early as six weeks that's all i got yeah well i mean again that because that
00:12:19.520 wouldn't be the question that i would google like it would be because right we're talking about
00:12:25.280 breastfeeding we're talking about like bonding a lot of these things like especially in the first two to 0.99
00:12:32.240 six months of life at least like women bear the majority of that labor sure but i say so what i could
00:12:39.360 say men men bear the majority of labor of running society for a lifetime on average on average women 0.94
00:12:48.400 have one to two kids so okay you you could say that's four years men work 50 50 in a difficult job
00:12:55.760 that gives us the food that we have the chairs we're sitting on and the microphone we're talking in
00:13:01.760 and who set that system up you should say thank you men did thank god for them no you seem to have a
00:13:07.600 problem with the amount that men work and the responsibility that men bear and so i don't have
00:13:12.160 i don't have a problem with it i'm acknowledging what it is and i women should be thankful to men
00:13:17.760 for doing it instead of complaining that they're not doing enough to make women's lives comfortable
00:13:22.320 we live in one of the most privileged times to be a woman ever i mean you have even even the fact
00:13:27.680 that you're saying um the biggest problem is that they have to raise their kids in the early years
00:13:32.560 you know how privileged that is i mean you have the option to put them in daycare you have the option
00:13:36.720 to delay motherhood they made ivf for us they gave you birth like we have so many choices now
00:13:42.720 and we're still gonna say they're not doing enough that's do you know how much work it takes to raise
00:13:49.280 children i'm one of ten yeah so you should so you should be one of ten okay so here's my next question
00:13:55.760 um are your parents still married yeah and wasn't your mom like um a feminist on the un who fought for
00:14:03.120 women's rights at a global level me and my mom don't agree on everything what's your point yeah 0.90
00:14:08.240 that she had nine children and she's happily married as a feminist so it seems like you should be fully
00:14:13.120 aware and she's not a feminist she took me to sarah palin rallies when i was a kid okay i went to like
00:14:18.400 pro-life rallies when i was 12. yeah i mean they're coming out of nowhere right but she also did advocate on
00:14:24.720 a global level for like women's opportunities so it seems like you should be fully here's the thing 1.00
00:14:29.760 the the internet only has half of that story and i i can't yeah i can't tell the full one
00:14:36.160 just because it's not my place so i can't really use that as an i'm telling you you're wrong though
00:14:40.320 that's not if you had the full story i just can't talk about it here yeah you say that a lot when people
00:14:45.520 bring up your family which is fine um but my main point is that you are not ignorant to these ideas you
00:14:52.320 are not ignorant to these arguments like you on a global and personal level like are aware of them
00:14:59.520 so to say who cares like your mom cares you know to say who cares a lot of us care and i think that it
00:15:07.360 takes a lot of strength to care and i think that it actually to say oh i don't care stop complaining
00:15:13.840 that's the easy way out i don't want to take the easy way out i think that being passionate about empathy
00:15:19.520 is really like the strength it takes strength to be sensitive it takes strength to be vulnerable
00:15:24.640 and transparent i think that it's really easy and it's the easy way out to just be callous
00:15:29.760 and to say we can't make change and i don't care about your feelings okay well again you could you
00:15:34.880 can say that but it doesn't change the reality of the world and the thing is if you want to be in
00:15:39.920 a man's world then be in it and what women try to do is they go into a man's world and tell them how 1.00
00:15:45.520 it should be different yeah because as you've even though even though they've done none of the
00:15:50.000 work it seems like you are you interviewing me or are we even though they've done none of the work of
00:15:54.240 building the society but go ahead sorry i would argue that our society would be better off if we
00:15:59.040 did have a part in building it our society has been stagnated and has been held back because women 1.00
00:16:04.160 have been held back imagine the prosperity and imagine the opportunity that the world would have
00:16:08.960 if women weren't held back and women weren't stagnated and you continuously complain about
00:16:14.480 these things that men have to endure and then simultaneously call it a men's world that women 0.95
00:16:20.320 should be grateful to be a part of but we should also be sensitive towards the things that they've
00:16:26.000 built that are detrimental to themselves so what do you think men did historically like what do you
00:16:33.280 think their jobs were like 1800s what were your choices as a man to do as a job because you know
00:16:39.840 you always talk about how women were held back historically so i'm asking like what was life
00:16:43.760 like back then well women had to stay home and men had to do all of the jobs because they didn't 0.94
00:16:49.680 allow women to help them what were their jobs that they did what were the most common methods of 1.00
00:16:54.880 employment back then i mean what do you mean i mean it's going to be it's going to be construction
00:17:00.000 it's going to be medicine it's going to be food production it's going to be factories it's going
00:17:05.760 like the same thing that runs all of society so they had three choices coal miner farmer factory worker 0.76
00:17:12.960 nothing else happened in society i'm not saying nothing else that was the majority of how people
00:17:17.440 were employed so it was you guys have this like rewritten history where you guys think that men just had
00:17:25.040 these glamorous fun jobs but men did the difficult job men know that they don't they didn't enjoy
00:17:32.560 their jobs it's like do you think of any guys going to a coal mine and saying wow this is my passion
00:17:38.240 and again who set that system up it's not about who set it up it's how would this system run without
00:17:44.880 it they need coal at the time they needed coal like the same way now somebody has to build the buildings
00:17:51.280 somebody has to get the food otherwise society does not run correct and we're better off when
00:17:57.040 women participate and when women are able to help men like we talk about all of these like detrimental
00:18:03.200 aspects of these harmful industries and arguably if we cared about how people felt we were compassionate
00:18:10.960 towards their experience we would put more time and energy to improving these harmful industries
00:18:16.480 and if women had been allowed to enter into these industries earlier you could argue that they 1.00
00:18:22.960 would be safer industries because we have empathy and we want to value progression and we want to
00:18:28.400 recognize problems and address them we don't just see a problem and say hey that's a problem and then sit
00:18:36.000 on it like no you recognize a problem you recognize what causes it and you fix it okay so i told you about
00:18:43.040 the crab fishing today what are you going to do now as i said that's not my job there are people who are
00:18:49.280 excuse me if i could please speak as i've said before there are people on safety committees there
00:18:55.040 are people on workers unions there are people whose jobs are dedicated to worker safety so if you're very
00:19:03.360 passionate about that you should probably invite one of them to sit down in the studio and ask them that
00:19:09.120 question okay so nothing you're not because that's not my job i'm just i'm just clarifying you're doing
00:19:15.040 the same thing no because i'm more than happy to recognize that it's a problem that should be addressed
00:19:21.360 by somebody whose specialty it is to address that problem well thank you very much for coming on this
00:19:26.560 was fun um you want to tell them your socials and they can your social media where they can find you
00:19:32.240 good yeah so you can find me primarily on tick tock um i'm dr bronte b-r-o-n-t-e like the bronte sisters
00:19:39.280 um and then on instagram i'm at be kind and curious cool and you're welcome to use any of
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00:19:58.240 guys so much for watching and i will talk to you guys next time bye bye