Pearl - September 06, 2025Former Adult Actress Brittni De La Mora Joins Pearl
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Summary
Brittany De La Mora is a former porn star turned minister. She shares her story of how she went from being one of the top porn actresses in the entire country to starting her own ministry. She talks about how she quit the porn industry, how she found God, and how she became a believer.
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What up guys? Welcome to the Just Pearly Things YouTube channel and welcome to another episode
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of The Sit Down. So today I have a special guest joining me. As you guys know, I've extensively
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covered the OnlyFans ex-sex worker to church pipeline and I actually never thought I would
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see the day where one would join my show. I really never did. So I'm actually very
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grateful she's here. So we have Brittany De La Mora. We reacted to her video last week
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about her conversion story. I'm going from being one of the top adult film actresses
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in the entire country to starting a ministry. And I basically was reacting to one of her
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videos and I invited her on and now she's here. So welcome to the show, Brittany. Thanks for
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coming. Thanks, Pearl. Thank you. You pop up on my YouTube all the time. So I've seen quite a few
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of your shorts. Cool. So it's good to be here with you today. Cool. So I wanted to start with
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maybe your story, if that's all right with you. I've heard it on a few podcasts, but I just kind
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of wanted to reiterate it for the audience. So when did you get into porn? Actually, I'm going
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to say corn for the purpose of the show, if that's all right. Got it. Yeah. It was in 2005. I was 18
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years old. Okay. 2005, 18. And how long were you in the industry for? Do you want to talk about
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the conversion story. Yeah, of course. I was in the industry for seven years and you want me to
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talk about as I got out or do you want anything in between? Yeah, I just want to hear it from
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start to finish. How old were you when you started? How long did you do it? When did it end?
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how did it end? Okay. So from 18 to about 25, 20, almost 26. Um, and I honestly got into that
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industry just super broken and looking for love in all the wrong places. Um, I had an encounter
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with God, uh, like my three and a half year mark, I had been using, uh, heroin and I couldn't get
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ahold of any and was just like, I'm going to end my life if I don't get help. And my grandmother
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came and she picked me up. And I detoxed from her house or at her house. And then my grandfather,
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who is remarried, had been going to church with his wife. And I asked if I could join them,
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went to church, received Jesus as my Lord and Savior, didn't really go back to church after
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that. Men were very much my weakness. And I got involved in a relationship with a guy that was a
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pimp. And then I got back into the industry for another three or three and a half years.
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But I really started to read the Bible and not with a deep understanding by any means.
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And I started to just kind of hear from God. And I remember one day feeling like I need to leave
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this guy. And I was just like, I don't know who I'm going to call. And I felt the impression of
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God tell me to call my mom. And I'm just like instantly like, I can't call her. And he's just
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like, humble yourself and call your mom. And so I did just that. And she came, picked me up. I got
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out of his house within, I don't know, a half hour or so. And then I went to go film what would
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become my very last porn scene. I brought my Bible on the airplane that day and I'm reading
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Revelation chapter two, verse 20 through 23. And I'm paraphrasing, but it says that I have this
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thing against you. You tolerate that woman named Jezebel. She leads my people into sexual immorality.
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I have given her time to repent. If she doesn't repent, I'll cast her and all who commit immorality
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into a sick bed along with her. And in that moment, I'm just like crying on the airplane
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because it was kind of like the lights finally turned on in my life. I was obviously not a woman
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of conviction at that point in my life. And I feel just the grace of God come over me. And he's just
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like, Brittany, this is not the life that I have for you. The life that I have for you will overflow
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with so much love and peace and joy. And if you would quit this business today, I would bless
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your life like no man ever could. And I was broken and that word just gave me so much hope
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that I quit the industry that day and I started following Jesus after that. Okay. So you said you
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were super broken and looking for love in all the wrong places when you started. What does that mean?
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Super broken? I grew up in a very abusive household. I did not know my value or my worth.
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and then here's an industry that's not only promising money but they feed you everything
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you want to hear like oh you're beautiful we love you you know all those words that
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i believe every child should hear in as they're growing up in their household and i started to
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hear those and it was kind of like just this poll and then this promise of oh you're going to be
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famous and it was kind of like well if enough people know my name then you know maybe that
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will somehow make me hate myself less well and you were pretty famous weren't you i mean i wasn't
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i think i was pretty young when you were how old are you i'm 28 so i'm assuming this was like 10
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years ago maybe i quit the industry 13 years ago 13 years ago yeah so i don't think i would have
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known but i mean you were on howard stern you did a bunch of like big shows is that true
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yep i did howard stern a few times um maxim magazine named me their top 12 hottest porn stars
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won awards and things like that. I mean, nothing that I'm proud of, but yeah, I experienced what
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I wanted to experience in that industry, but it still wasn't enough.
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Okay. And you said you were in a super abusive household. Is that like physical abuse,
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verbal abuse? Like what? Both and. Okay. And that was your mother or your father or both?
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My mom. Okay. You know, mothers are more likely to abuse children than fathers,
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but no one ever believes that stat yeah well that was my experience yeah most people's okay so then
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we're going to move on to the relationship with a pimp so you started dating a pimp and then you
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became like a prostitute i mean yes i i was doing escorting before i met him um and then getting
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into relationship with him basically the difference was you know i was working and he was taking my
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money okay one of my most proudest moments okay so like
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so this is over the course of like seven years eight years total seven years seven years okay
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and then you started to read the bible and you started to hear from god
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and then you started to go to church but it sounds like you kind of slid back
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mm-hmm and then oh you went to church once then you did more porn after right now then i got
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involved with the pimp the pimp was actually a backslidden christian and i told him that i told
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him one day that i felt like i was just like demonically possessed and he took me to church
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and i got baptized i went to church a couple times with him um and then after that i didn't really
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get active in church again until I left him. Okay. So then, so when you actually got back
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into the church, what were you doing then? Were you actually done with the porn the second time
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around? Yeah, I was done. I was completely done with porn. I had to look for a job for months
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because I didn't have a resume. What do you write on your resume when you've done porn since you're
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18? There was a pretty big gap from my job at like 16, 17 to when I started applying. But I found a
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job. Uh, I started working as a receptionist making $11 and 25 cents an hour. It was very
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humbling. Um, but my bank account was empty, but my heart was full because I started to really
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encounter the love of God. Okay. And that was when you started, that was when you met your
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husband after that. I met my husband. We, we didn't, we got married about three years after
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I became a Christian. So I had met him. He was the young adult pastor at our church and he preached
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a message that literally changed my life. He was like, I have to tell the, like, he was like just
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speaking to the women in the audience. And he said, you need to know that, um, one of the things
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he said is that if you don't like what you're attracting, change what you're promoting. When I
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heard that it was kind of like, again, the lights went on. I'm like, Oh, duh. Like how obvious that
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I have been only attracting men that want me for my body because that's all that I promote.
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So I went home and like deleted all of my social media accounts that were attached to
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my former self, got rid of all provocative photos that, you know, that were on my pages.
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Okay. So how soon was it after that, that you began like doing what you're doing now,
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like the podcasting the i don't know i'm assuming you seem like you would do the i went to catholic
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school and we would have like chastity speakers i don't know if you do something like that but
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listening to some of your stuff it sounds like you but you may have done something similar
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i mean we've written a book on purity but we we kind of redefine purity because there's this like
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toxic purity culture in the church where it was just so much emphasis on like no you know
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masturbating, no sex before marriage, no this, but it was like the focus was on the action versus
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the heart. So we redefine purity as it really is a heart issue. And yes, practicing celibacy is a
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part of it, but like the bigger issue is what's flowing from your heart. Yeah, I disagree. I think
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it's purity is not having sex. No, that's a huge part of it. But the word purity actually means to
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be undefiled. So there's many things that can defile your heart, gossip, being critical,
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lying, stealing. There's many things, but purity is definitely a part of it. But the word purity
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in itself is undefiled, not no sex before marriage. Okay. So I'm listening to your story
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and here's kind of the issue I get with like the born again hoe type of thing. I don't really feel
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like you guys take accountability for what you're doing because when I hear you tell me your story
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back you always seem to point the blame on being broken and being and being and some and the evil
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men no I'm not saying there were evil men yeah I know but when you say like you know I'm when you
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say like oh this happened because I had an abusive childhood there's lots of people with abusive
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childhoods that don't do that that's true it kind of takes away from the you know it'd be like if
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jeffrey dahmer came out and said oh i murdered all these people because my mom was mean to me
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or my dad was mean to me it takes a little bit away from the actual apology yeah it makes it
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seem less sincere when you know throughout the whole story i never heard you say hey i was horny
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i enjoyed having sex on camera and i did it because i liked the attention i didn't want to
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work it was easy money and it was wrong yeah well there's a few layers i hear what you're saying i
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totally do but brokenness doesn't take away from accountability i own up to everything that i did
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i made the decision to get into porn i made the decision to date a pimp i actually did say that
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men were my weakness so that's me taking accountability i was weak i want that not
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really if you're saying men were the weakness so you were the weakness it was well i yes they're
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like my kryptonite right like i know because there's many women where men are their kryptonite
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and they don't have sex on camera it's like not a hard thing to avoid right it's pretty easy to not
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have sex on camera absolutely absolutely and i i totally agree with you but i would also say then
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And it goes beyond just being horny because if I was just horny, I wouldn't need a camera and
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producers and directors. I could have just done my thing and been, you know, a part of hookup
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culture in college. It goes much deeper than that. It was the promise of fame. It was the,
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you know, feeling like so empty inside that fame would have validated me. And that's truly what I
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It wasn't being empty. It wasn't being empty inside. It was attention seeking. You wanted
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absolutely yeah i wanted it and you were and you were willing to be greedy and you were willing to
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embarrass all of your friends all of your family to do it and i do appreciate you coming back and
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saying it's wrong but you have to understand when i hear you talk about the story it just doesn't
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seem sorry when you're telling the way you're telling it it's like you're the hero and the
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victim at the same time when really it was just a selfish decision and i don't i don't lose sleep at
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night, right? It's not my life. But you have to understand to the average person, they're going
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to hear this. And they might not say it to your face. I'm probably one of the few people who will
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be honest about it. But they're just going to think you're full of shit. Because throughout
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the whole story, you're blaming everybody else. I just think there's this whole movement of people
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saying that if you if you have any if you say anything about brokenness or anything about
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trauma, then that means that you're not taking accountability. But if you actually study the
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impact that parenting has on a child, whether to set them up for failure or success, then you would
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understand. I'd say that's bullshit because my family, we've adopted kids from really bad
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situations, probably worse than yours. And they didn't make the same decisions you did.
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they did what decisions did they make they made good decisions to be honest they're good kids
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and they were adopted by what by what what was your family like awesome okay so see they had
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a redemption they had a chance they had a second chance they were given a second chance for me i
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just had to learn life the hard way i got such bullshit britney it's complete bullshit it's to
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to put it on your childhood when you're born in America, one of the greatest places to be alive
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in the country, like ever. And one of the freest times ever to be alive. Like there's just no
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excuse. There's none. There's kids that had worse childhoods than yours that didn't make your
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choices. They didn't. And you know, men, they don't get a get out of jail free card. They don't
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get to blame things on their trauma, on their brokenness. Like to me, it's kind of bullshit.
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I don't understand. So you're saying that women have the opportunity to blame things
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on brokenness, but men don't actually. Joshua Brink, an incredible man of God who was in the
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porn industry for six years. He talks about the fact that he had a fatherless home and that played
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a big role as to why he wasn't validated. I would say the men that do it, I also think it's bullshit
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it as well. I do, but it's, it's much more common for women to do it than men because in general,
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most people won't hear men out. They won't ask them why they did the bad thing. You know, like,
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um, when men commit crimes at 18, uh, they don't get a get out of jail free card because they had
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a bad childhood. They go to jail and pay the time. Right. But I didn't do, I mean, I didn't get caught
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doing anything illegal, so I didn't end up in jail, but I would have, and I wouldn't have got a
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got out of jail. Were you doing drugs? Yes, I was. I said I didn't get caught doing anything
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illegal. Had I gotten caught, I also would have ended up in jail and not received a get out of
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jail free card because I would have gotten caught doing something illegal. Right. Okay. So the other
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issue that I have is, so my question is when you decided to convert, what was your penance?
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what do you mean by that okay what do you think is more important people's actions or their words
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uh their their actions the condition of their heart so do you understand why i would be a
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little bit skeptical if you're telling me after you were baptized you were still doing porn
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yes because i believe that sanctification is a process and i didn't really understand the
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knowledge of the scripture. I didn't fully understand what I was doing. The moment that
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I began to understand and to have a relationship with God, everything changed. I've been out of
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the porn industry for 13 years. I've never looked back. I've, you know, really truly rebuilt my life
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on the foundation of Christ. Yeah. And I would still say that's bullshit. You were an adult,
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Brittany. I don't, you know, I'm not even that religious, but I don't need a book to tell me
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it's wrong to have sex on camera i don't uh so i i really think this whole like oh i didn't
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understand i didn't know it's a process i mean that might work on like the simps you interview
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with but it's not going to work on me how would one know the scripture if they were never taught
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the scripture you went to catholic school you went to catholic church so you were taught i was not
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i think there's a lot of people that weren't taught any scripture and just didn't have sex
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on camera and i'm so happy for them i'm so proud of them if i could give back that seven years of
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my life i definitely would but unfortunately it's a part of my story it is what it is okay so
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penance means voluntary self-punishment inflicted as an outward expression of repentance for having
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done wrong so what was my self-inflicted punishment yeah what was your penance nothing i don't i don't
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understand exactly what you mean like was i supposed to like harm myself or i don't because
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i harmed myself for many years i was a cutter and a drug addict and no um did you return the money
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you made i i mean i gave it all to a pimp so there you go i left that industry said you were making
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30 to 50k a month yep and you didn't return any of it well i didn't have any of it to give i had
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my very last paycheck which was 1500 and i used it to pay my rent okay so you got rich you got
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famous you kept the money you had no money i did not have any money to give away the last three
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years of me being in the industry i was with a pimp he took my money i will i'll reiterate
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you got rich you got famous you made the money you either spent it on yourself or gave it to a guy
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you didn't think maybe to make you you could have for a couple years you know tried to pay
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the money back to a charity or something i mean i tithe to the church and i have been since the
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day i became a christian and i learned about tithing i've given to the church and i also
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give to other organizations well there's a start i mean there's a start finally something
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i mean i've given up my entire life to serve jesus so like i'm going back into porn shows
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to hand out bibles to minister the gospel to try to help other people leave the industry behind
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And I've given money away in the new time of my life.
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It doesn't really count to walk away from corn when you're aging out.
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At that point in my career, I was getting work regularly, like on a daily basis.
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But in that industry, I was still working every single day.
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okay but you were still aging out you're on the i mean we all know as a woman you get
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uglier the older you get it just is what it is so i i don't really think it counts uh to you know
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say sorry if there's zero penance after like it would be one thing if you know you were sitting
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in the back of the church quiet you know you went to a nunnery you did charity work for like
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you know but what i get is let me make all the money get famous keep the money say oops after
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blame it on my childhood and marry a simp okay it's very interesting to me that you
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went to a catholic church but you don't understand the bible like the bible is very clear when it
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says that to the measure that you judge is the measure that you'll be judged and here you are
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casting so much judgment but the day that you meet jesus is that really the same judgment that
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you want him to give to you are you still in the public sphere trying to get attention yes or no
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no what are you doing by having a podcast um sharing the love of jesus trying to help people
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leave the adult film industry also i've helped thousands of addicts porn addicts get set free
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from pornography my life is a service unto people okay do you make money off of it off of the course
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the course is 30 bucks i don't make money off of it no it goes towards funding um everything that
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we do okay do you make money off of the youtube views yes or no like a hundred dollars every
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other month do you make money off of the church yes or no uh i don't have a church
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i give to the church but i don't have a church do you make money off of speaking engagements
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yes or no when i do like public speaking engagements yes i do but i don't do them very
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often okay so again it just goes from monetizing corn to monetizing god and and that's really where
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i have an issue with it it just doesn't seem genuine to me yeah but as when i question this
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like a normal person is going to right a normal person that never did any of this stuff is just
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going to think that you're full of if i'm being honest um and then you get the shaming language
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as soon as you question a story that's really questionable britney like you said you did porn
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after you were baptized. This is where we've got to learn to give people grace. I literally had
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no understanding. The moment that I read that I was living in sin, that I was going to get
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cast down into a sick bed along with everybody who was committing immorality with me, I quit
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the porn industry. I quit. I never looked back. The fruit of my life is helping people. I have
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helped thousands of addicts get set free. I've helped women leave the porn industry to follow
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Jesus. Like I'm helping people. So I mean, and then I prioritize being a wife and a mother. So
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when you think, oh, I'm getting rich off speaking engagements and things like that, I only travel
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a handful of times of year. I'm not getting rich off the church because I choose to value my
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husband and my children and to prioritize my family. Okay. Let's talk about that. You said
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you prioritize being a wife and a mother. So are you aware that every time you step into the public
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sphere, there are men that struggle with lust? You're aware of that, right? Yes. And so you do
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understand that by being in the public sphere, men are going to want to Google you. There's going
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be men that yeah they may want to google me but i think about all of the people that have actually
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stopped watching corn because of the fact that i've shared my story and it's humanized uh it's
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humanized people because a lot of people that watch corn they view women as sex objects and so
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when i share my story and i'm able to share yes girl the brokenness it helps people to understand
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i'm watching a woman who actually doesn't enjoy what she's doing who has to get high just to do
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do the scenes that she's performing in. So it helps people find freedom. And that's been the
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case. So are you aware? I'm going to repeat it. Okay. Are you aware that by being in the public
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sphere, men are going to want to Google your work? And there's also going to be men who are going to
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find freedom. Those are the men. I need you to answer the question first. It's both and. It's
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yes and yes yes yes and are you aware that by being in the public sphere you are drawing more
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attention to yourself and that is putting your family in the position to be sent more and more
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of your videos are you aware of that yes okay and you choose to do it anyway correct it's not that
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oh i just go choose to do it anyway this is a conversation that my husband and i have prayed
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about and both felt convicted that this is something that i need to do to serve god okay
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well you have to understand how a normal person is going to view this normal people with normal
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jobs that have never been tempted to do to do that stuff right they're gonna view it as you
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don't really care about your family because you're putting them in a position to be made fun of by
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further drawing attention to yourself i would completely believe you if you were not making
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money off of this story but the challenge i have is i mean the money i'm making is pennies come on
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pearl like i'm really doing this out of service like i'm going to porn shows not making a dollar
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so that i can share the love of jesus with thousands of people who watch corn and with
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hundreds of creators like i am passionate about helping people find freedom it's not about the
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dollar i have been doing this i have taken on so many speaking engagements including this one where
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i'm not getting paid for this okay so i'm gonna repeat i'm gonna repeat the average person is
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still going to view it as this is not a priority to you yeah because you know your kids are going
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going to be sent your videos someday and you're not on social media. Yeah, but it's, it's going
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to happen eventually. They're going to get old enough. Um, people say that. And that is, that
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could be a consequence of my sin. And that is one of the, one of the biggest arguments that I make
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with women who want to have children and are in the porn industry. I want to be a pioneer and show
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them like, this is not the path that you should take. And I understand that people aren't going
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to understand why I do what I do. It's, it's hard to understand the things of God when you're not
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spending time with God. And most of our, of, of America, most of your listeners probably aren't
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really spending time with Jesus. Right there. That's a shaming tactic. I'm not trying to shame
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anybody. This is just reality. You're essentially saying that, and you have to understand how this
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going to be viewed from an average person the the person that you know had sex on camera that got
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gang banged on screen is telling me how i'm not holy enough uh you know the number one reason
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people leave the church is hypocrisy so i i would argue it does more harm than good and if anything
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what you're showing these of girls is they can do whatever they want make a bunch of money
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and even keep working after you convert and get a get out of jail free card.
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Actually, my dear friend, Melinda, I have shared her story, but she's off living a very quiet life,
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married with children. But that's the conviction that she has on her life. I didn't have that
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conviction. I want to see more stories like Melinda. I want to help more women get out of
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the industry and live normal lives. This isn't about the money. But like I said,
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if you aren't spending time with God, it's hard to understand. It's like people don't understand
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that God uses people like me. God used Paul, who was a murderer of Christians. And then he's,
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you know, how about the Samaritan woman, the woman at the well who had five husbands
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and she had a live-in boyfriend. Like God used this woman to now go and evangelize to tell so
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many people about Jesus in the time of Samaritan. Are you comparing yourself to Paul? Really? No,
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I'm just saying that there are people that used to sin deeply. I'm more so comparing myself to
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the woman at the well. Okay. I just, I don't think the woman at the well started an online
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Jesus ministry, like and sold body count. You should, you should research her. She became
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an incredible evangelist. Okay. She was selling body count courses on how to accept women's,
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i mean even even the how to accept women's past you know why aren't we selling that and not telling
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women not to do it you know you know it's because of the generation that we live in and if you do
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watch my podcast uncensored with britney de la mora i tell people constantly not to get into this
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line of work that is my whole that's like my my conviction my passion is do not choose of do not
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choose the adult industry because there's repercussions that I didn't think through.
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And I don't want women to make the same decision that I did. However, unfortunately with OF having
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millions of users, there are so many women out there with promiscuous past. So if a man happens
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to be dating one, one of the questions that our ministry gets asked the most is help. My woman
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has a promiscuous past. I'm struggling. What do I do? I'd say that's normal. Find a better one.
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And that, that could be your answer, but unfortunately some, some are in love when you're
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Again, it's that, well, that's, that's again, the problem.
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I actually think if you do porn, I don't think you deserve a husband.
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I think it's selfish to have children because the position you're putting your kids in is
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And it might not have happened yet, but it's going to happen eventually.
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So, you know, you know what I believe, I believe in the grace of God.
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I believe that God knew exactly what he was doing when he not only pulled me out of the industry,
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but blessed me with such a wonderful husband, chose to give me children. He could have closed
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up my womb if he wanted, but like the Lord has really blessed my life. And I believe that he
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is going to cover my children, whatever that looks like, but I'm not called to protect them
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from every single ounce of pain that they're going to experience in this world. I'm sure
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you've experienced pain in high school. They're going to experience pain. But what I am here to
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do as their mother is to help walk them through it. Well, and I would just say that's selfish,
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which is fine. A lot of women are selfish. I know. You know what they say about opinions.
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It's going to be, it's going to be most people watching. I see you get these softball interviews.
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No one's, no one's saying what most people are going to be thinking, like average Americans.
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Well, yeah, because I'm interviewing with questions. And, and the issue, well,
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the issue you're going to get is you're basically saying, you know, I had kids because I wanted
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children and I wanted to be married, which is fine. There's nothing wrong with that. But what
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you put what you wanted first, and essentially, it's at the cost of everyone around you being in
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the public sphere is going to be at the cost of everyone around you. Yeah, you know, drawing more
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attention to the porn story i mean that's more more attention to the story of you being a porn
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star is just going to draw more people to make fun of your kids so you know i think it's i i would
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say that's kind of selfish so yeah i totally understand that people that are a part of this
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like red pill movement that that's how they feel but i really do believe that when you are sensitive
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to the Holy Spirit, there is a certain level of grace that you have more understanding. And yes,
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I get that people in the world are going to be very judgmental. I understand that. I get that,
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and I'm facing that. But I also know that God has gotten me to this point, and he will get our
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family through that bridge when we cross it. I'm not going to sit around and worry about that.
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Grace, of course you're not. Of course. No, grace doesn't mean you're free from consequences.
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it doesn't that's the problem that's why i asked you know when men commit a crime they pay the time
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you you didn't voluntarily go to the police and say hey i did drugs maybe i should go to jail
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because i did do the crime you know you didn't right should i have done that pearl i i it would
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have made your story a little more believable you know but you have zero penance zero repercussions
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none, none. So forgive me if I don't. There are repercussions. Pearl, there have been,
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let me tell you about repercussions. Okay. My husband has been sent stuff. Like when we were
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dating, um, we were practicing sexual purity and, um, people sent him images of me in,
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in my vulgar moments. That was humiliating for me. I had genuinely became this new person,
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new creation. I was walking a new life and my past has come back to haunt me. So I share this
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again. And I'm always open about the repercussions of my sin because I want people to understand that
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there are consequences. Like it's not a get out of jail. No, the consequences were for him because
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men always have to clean up after women. Well, you didn't seem very humiliated when you were
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doing it i wasn't actually because i had no conviction of sin until i experienced um a
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relationship with jesus yeah it's it's just very convenient that's after the fame and the money
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you know like you didn't feel this six months in or a year in it was seven years in because i
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didn't encounter jesus until about three and a half years and then that process was about three
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years of sanctification for me before i finally got it encountered i hadn't been going to church
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you encountered him and you still did a porn scene right i have to look at actions versus words
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and when you when you say oh i'm i'm holy and you're still doing porn it leads me to believe
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you're a liar well at that point i would never have called myself holy i did that last scene
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because i was already there in las vegas i needed the money i literally had no money but the whole
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time i did it i felt a conviction and i love how you look at actions that is wisdom because look
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at what my actions did after i recorded that scene i left the porn industry and i never looked back
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my actions prove that i have repented okay what actions prove because i don't really think you
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get brownie points for not doing something like i i think that not doing porn is pretty easy
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okay so the women that i helped leave i don't think i don't think i'm gonna wait i'm gonna give
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i'm gonna tell you what i won't give you brownie points for and you can tell me what i'm missing
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okay so i'm not going to give you brownie points for stopping because i just don't think that's
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that hard it's not hard to not have sex on camera okay i'm not going to give you brownie points for
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the ministry because you're making money off of it and you're getting really not so outside of the
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two things, which is lecturing people about the Bible. Fine, you know, whatever, but I'm not going
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to give you brownie points for either of those two things. What have you done? Okay. So you're
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trying to say that I'm making money off of like getting a couple thousand dollars a year is not
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making money. Like it's really not, I don't consider that making money. Okay. So my husband
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has a secular job and that's how our bills are paid. It's not from me serving Jesus. That's not
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where the bulk of our money comes from by any means. And I'm not asking for brownie points
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anyway. I know earlier you mentioned that, oh, I try to be the hero of my story. Jesus is the hero
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of my story actually because everything that I've done, everything that I've become is because of
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who Jesus is in my life. Okay. So again, what was the penance? What are the actions? Outside of
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retelling the porn story, okay, or stopping doing porn? Like what else did you do? Anything?
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I mean, I'm good to people. Like if I'm the first person to serve, we have a Bible study at our
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house every single week. We're constantly pouring into people. My life has literally become a
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service to those in need. Also, when I got my job for $11.25 an hour, I would make an extra
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sandwich every day and I would just go around. It was in a large homeless community in Point Loma
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and I would just talk to all the homeless people and how are you doing? Do you know Jesus? I was
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just sharing the gospel with every single person. And was I getting paid for that? No, I was
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sacrificing my own money so that I could bring them a lunch. Did you apologize to the people
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that you hurt? I have definitely made apologies through different testimonies saying that, you
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know, there, there's a lot of people that I'm sure used to watch my stuff. And I have apologized
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for even being that person, especially after reading that scripture, that woman named Jezebel
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who leads my people into sexual immorality okay not not publicly not publicly privately oh
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absolutely absolutely yes god has restored my relationship with every single one of my family
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members i have apologized and rebuilt it's been 13 years so we've that's like the past
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is in the past we've rebuilt our relationships and they're wonderful well there's a start
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okay so the way that i can tell someone is sorry in my opinion is full accountability
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and changed behavior that's it otherwise i can't really tell and my only point is the way you talk
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about your story i i think you paint yourself as the victim a lot i think it's complete bullshit
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that you say you didn't know you were an adult at 25 years old there's some things i don't think
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you need to read a scripture to not have sex on camera i really don't i i think that's something
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you can just know um and the second is changed behavior which you didn't have after the conversion
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so i did you're considering my conversion on the airplane that was not really my conversion that
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was like the first step to conversion okay well when i heard you tell the story in the beginning
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you said that you did a scene after you converted because you needed the money
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i wasn't really i hadn't even started going to church at that point it was like i had
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i didn't say that i converted i said i had an encounter an encounter with god doesn't always
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equal instant conversion it does for so some in the bible but sometimes it it's a sanctification
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process okay like i wasn't just made all pure and holy right off the bat i had i had to go through
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the renewal of my mind my mind was a mess i had to read the bible so that it could renew my mind
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and transform my life and that's exactly what's happened okay so why would a woman not just be a
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porn star get all the attention until she gets her money hit about 32 years old and then think i'll
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I'll find a simp and he'll fix all my problems. I can really have it all.
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Yeah. I mean, I don't encourage women to take that approach. I saw a reel going around of some
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girl that was basically asking that question like, well, why can't I do all this? And then
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I can leave the industry like so-and-so and get married and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But
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the motives of your heart are wrong. I wasn't set out on an airplane ready to go quit porn. I was
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going to do porn. Like never thought that would be the last day that I ever saw that industry,
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but I had an encounter with God and God will catch you in the most unlikely moments. And
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that's how it happened for me. It wasn't planned. And so why? But why would they not do it?
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Unfortunately, women do. And that's, that sucks. That sucks. That is a reflection of their heart
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and impure motives would you take any accountability if women saw your story and
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it inspired them to do just that would you feel any responsibility i think that everybody in life
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makes their own decisions but yeah that would make me feel like like maybe my story is not
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encouraging them to follow jesus it's encouraging them to porn but i've yet to hear that story
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okay one second i'm gonna read super chats um thank you for calling her out pearl they all do
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this of all the professions to pick after corn they run right to the church give a few speeches
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and all is forgiven it's their plan from the start all admit who you are and be honest and
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men might respect that but you have to be a chameleon and sell the sims at church churches
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i respect honest uh past 35 and out of the market jesus saved me women are not sex objects why do
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men need them uh let me refresh it also if you have any questions for me you're welcome to um
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or disagreements with what i said you're totally welcome to bring them up yeah i i would love like
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just on a personal note i don't know if you've been open about like your upbringing i heard you
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mentioned something about your father being a moral man and that's amazing um i didn't i i did
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a little research in prepping for this but i was wondering like what was your mother like
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my mom was a cool lady she was awesome is she still around actually she is i just realized i
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said was yeah she's still alive are your parents still married yep wow i just try to understand
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like i'm trying to i guess seek understanding as to like why a lot of the things that you say is
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like just this broad generalization of women and you're very protective over men and i'm not saying
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that there's anything wrong with that i'm just trying to find understanding of like where does
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that come from sure so all of society just lies to women because women make 80 of consumer buying
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decisions. So everyone's paycheck, women are at the end of it. Your case in particular, it really
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irks me because I think they take the microphone away from men that have worked really hard that
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didn't do the things that you did and they just hand it to porn stars. And I think it's kind of
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sad because I feel like I've seen the decline of churches in my lifetime. And I think it's because
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of women like you. I've actually read articles that churches are growing in this decade.
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Church attendance is down across the board. The challenge is men are leaving the churches and
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they're getting replaced by women. And the problem you get with that is women just tend to ruin
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things. Why do you believe that? I have eyes. I mean, but there's in both genders, there tends
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to be men and women that ruin things. I've seen men that have gone off and committed adultery and
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lost their church. I've seen men that have also destroyed things just as much as women can destroy
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things. So it's like there's evils in both genders. It's not just one or the other.
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women's is way worse i mean women aborted a third of gen z right that's awful third that's awful
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and the challenge is when men do the wrong thing they're held accountable women aren't
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instead they're handed microphones i don't know i i don't agree i've definitely had my
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fair share of consequences from my sin um so i would yeah i would disagree i would say
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i would agree with you if you actually paid back the money i didn't have any money to give
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that like why is that such a popular question by the way in my on my instagram one of the questions
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i get asked the most are did you give the money back i didn't have any money to give back okay
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but you have to understand you're kind of talking out of two sides of your mouth because on some
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shows you'll say i was making 30 to 50k a month and other shows you'll say oh i had no money it's
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like okay which is it okay so i was making 30 to 50 000 a month get involved with a pimp he's taking
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all the money so at one point in my career i did have money until i got involved with the pimp
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and then i had no money so there was no money to give back you guys can ask him if he gave it back
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yeah and see again that makes me think you're not sorry because you'll still deflect and put
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it on the guy now it's the poor woman who was robbed and it's so convenient he took all the
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money it's just i'm not putting that on the guy i said i gave him all the money there was no money
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to give back i just have a hard time believing that you gave him 100 of your money i would guess
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that you probably spent it on frivolous things that's pretty common no i don't think you
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understand how genuine like how it's a very low level realm in this world it is modern day slavery
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it is how the pimp and the 304 game work it's how it works no that's to me like that's again
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that's saying no it's not slavery when you're choosing to have sex on camera you have to
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understand doing what i do you don't think i've had offers like that it's so easy to just say no
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i'm good right so i just have no sympathy i really don't i'm not asking for your sympathy
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or anybody's at that actually all i want is to share my story to show that jesus can transform
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and also to help prevent women from getting into that industry and to help men overcome their
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addictions to porn which i've seen all three happen so yeah well i'm here well i would say
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that's counterintuitive with what you're doing, because what you're really going to do is you're
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just going to show women they can do whatever they want and get a bailout guy after. And you're
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going to make men, I mean, want to Google your porn. I've seen the fruit of my story and I've
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shared stories of women that have left the industry because of me sharing my story. So
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I've actually seen fruit in it. And so that's why I would disagree because I've actually seen the
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proof. I mean, do you not see the top comment on the last interview you did? What? I mean,
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the very, the one I reacted to the other day, it said, I know every man is going to watch this and
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want to Google their porn. And it's the same thing, the porn thing. You know, the number one
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consumers of porn of OnlyFans is white Christian males. Why do you think that is?
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why do i think it's white christian males yeah that's the number one consumers of porn
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i don't know what's your why do you think that
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you got no guesses none like why do you think white why do you think i don't where are you
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getting i've never seen the statistics so you'd have to send me oh you can just it's like if you
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google it it's the demographic is white christian men um i would say again the sin of porn is always
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talked about but i never hear christians talk about the sin of uh women not having sex with
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their husbands oh we've talked about that a lot of men i know but you you you'll bring up porn
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10 times but you never tell women and maybe you do maybe this is more of a generalization but
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it's rare that churches ever give sermons on how you're not a good wife if you don't have sex with
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him yeah i've actually in january spoken and i guess it is a generalization because it doesn't
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apply to me my husband and i did a marriage conference at a church in washington and that
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was one of the topics that we covered because the body the bible does teach us that like once
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you're married your wives your body belongs to the man man your what your body belongs to the
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woman and you are not supposed to withhold sex from one another. Yeah. So I agree with you there.
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Yeah. What do you think makes you, wait, what is a marriage conference?
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A marriage conference. It's where husbands and wives come and they get poured into.
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am i speaking christianese um you it's a conference it's a it's a setting where you
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i mean how do you you show up at church it's specifically for married couples and so all
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the messages that are shared are for married couples and you spoke at a marriage conference
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How are you qualified to speak at a marriage conference?
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I just think there's some things that like some decisions that the equivalent of that is like
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Jordan Belford, Jordan Belford telling you how to make financial decisions when he stole for a
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decade. Yeah. Do you see what I'm saying? It's like, no, I get, I get it. And from an outsider
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looking in, I can see how that would look strange. But I mean, when you actually know my husband and
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I intimately, like personally, when you know us personally, you would know that we have a thriving
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marriage. Um, we're celebrating 10 years and things are, are great. Like we have a wonderful
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marriage. So, um, we've learned a lot from Jesus and we're just passing on his teachings.
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Yeah. It's all biblical based, so it's not like you can go wrong. Hey,
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you just said for yourself that most churches aren't teaching that women should be having
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sex with their spouses. Well, guess what? I taught that. A broken clock rings twice a day.
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What's that? What's the phrase? A broken clock rings true like twice a day. I can't remember
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the phrase but it's basically saying uh never mind but yeah i mean that's that's pretty much
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my take though um i appreciate you coming on and we can go back and forth about other stuff but i
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think i summarized really my take is i just don't believe you you know i mean i've been out for years
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so regardless of what you believe um the proof is in the fruit of my life yeah i just don't think
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it is and that's the problem oh it 100 is i i don't you know yeah i just even i think nala was
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the other one and she's always wearing skin tight clothes it's like you guys all do this
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i just i don't wear skin tight clothes i don't know what you're talking about
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you said you guys all do this you guys all engage in promiscuous um activities even after you
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converted um i actually have never except for the the after the encounter it was not after my
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conversion my conversion um i count my conversion as the day i had started going to church it was
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after i deleted all my photos off instagram and then i committed to doing the purity ceremony at
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my church that was on february 20th 2013 um and that was the day that i was like i am really
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committing my life to Jesus. I am done with my old sinful ways. They've led me to a way of
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depression, wanting to end my life, using drugs every single day just to numb the pain that I'm
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feeling. And I truly repented and I've never looked back. So my conversion is sincere.
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I just think it's really convenient that that conversion counts and the other one didn't.
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the other one wasn't a conversion i had no idea what i just i was just trying it's like
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you're teaching you have to teach a child like when when you have a baby you first give them
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milk you're not going to shove steak down their throat like they're they have to grow into that
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five you are not a baby in in the spirit no i'm talking about in christ in christ i know that i
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I was an adult, but in Christ, I was a baby. I didn't know the things of God. You were blessed
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to get to go to church growing up. I didn't. You were so blessed. I would love to challenge
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your thinking because I think that you judge people based on what you knew growing up, but
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not everybody is where you were. Not everybody was blessed enough to have an honorable mother
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and father as you had like you are blessed for all you're blessed i would have preferred i would
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have felt like i just when i'm talking to you i don't feel like i'm talking to like an adult
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because you don't because you talk about yourself as if you're a child and it's like it's like you
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do it's like i'm not taught it was okay if you understand if you go and read the scripture
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paul says that there are infants in christ right it doesn't mean a physical infant it means
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spiritually i know but then you you still go it's not because of that it's because you still go back
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to the excuses well pearl your childhood was better than mine that's why you didn't get gang
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banged on camera once again then you don't understand the importance of parenting in
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somebody's life when somebody's constantly told that they're a loser they're never gonna amount
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to anything and f you i've seen people with worse parents than yours that did not make your decision
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no excuses you're an adult and every time you give me an excuse i just you know i feel like
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i'm talking to a child you know because it's not it's not an excuse it's psychology i did it
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i was wrong and that's it i i was wrong i have admitted that i said that i made the choices that
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i made to get into the industry was it wrong yes absolutely had i been but it's always because you
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were broken it's never because you were horny horny would be accountability that would be like
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this was a negative trait that i have i still have it um but i'm working on it now you know but
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it was my parents fault that's not accountability go ahead nobody's saying that it was i didn't say
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that it was my parents' fault, but they set the foundation. Your parenting sets the foundation
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for success or failure. It's just the reality. And some people, they can be born into the same
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environment and make better choices. And props to them, kudos to them. That's incredible.
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And if I was just horny, like I said before, I wouldn't have needed a camera, producer,
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director's fame. No, I didn't need any of that if I was just horny. There was a deeper root.
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And if we don't understand the root as to why people do what they do, then we have no compassion
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and we cannot help them moving forward because they have to understand why they do what they
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do. It's why so many people go to therapy because they have to start unraveling. What's the reason
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I make the decisions that I make? Excuses. It's not excuses. It's the truth. But you just don't
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to receive it no did you do it because you were horny not even a little
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what i already answered your question gaslighting is gracious female gaslighting is incredible you
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said why do you have the opinions that you do i'm like i talk to women and they just gaslight you
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and do eternity it never ends oh pearl it never ends it's like um what part of what i said was
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gaslighting gaslighting was when you said you didn't have sex on camera because you were horny
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that's not actually gaslighting because i could have sex off camera if i was horny
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and i'm not denying the fact that women get horny that's not what i'm trying to say
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but what i'm trying to say is that there truly was a deeper root what like i've seen
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okay all right this is i get more sexist by the day i just want you to know
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you are a woman in case you forgot yeah okay so you were not horny when you made porn
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no there were times that i was but that's not why i got into the industry
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all right how do you feel about nala did you think she was genuine
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yes nala has been genuine okay why and you would say it's perfectly okay for her to be raising the
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only fans prices the thirst traps on ig still you know i honestly don't know about any of that so i
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don't want to comment on that fair enough fair enough but if she were doing those things you
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would say that would indicate that she's not genuine i have no idea what she did and i'm not
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going to answer hypothetically could i show you a video and we could say sexual or not sexual i
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don't want to talk about nala i actually like her i think she's a gaslighting and i don't want to
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talk i know i'm being honest i don't want to talk about her but if she was doing something wrong
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you wouldn't want to condemn it no it was to my oh my god it was to my understanding that only
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fans would not allow her to delete until everybody got off but it's always so convenient
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no there was one after let me find it i could it was of her baking and then she's like
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i i mean she's using the roller like as if it's like a a hand job type of thing it was ridiculous
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i'm like these hoes can't stop hoeing it is what it is but i just rather her be honest
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about the hoeing you know rather than be gaslit for eternity
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i've i've seen nala genuinely growing in the lord um she holds herself accountable she with me like
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if she's going through things she calls me asks for biblical advice nala is growing in the lord
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and i think that she's grown tremendously and i commend her for that let me find the video but
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if there was a video would you if it was sexual would you condemn it i'm not gonna talk i'm not
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gonna sit here and talk i am not here to sit and talk about people that are not in the room to
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defend themselves that's not how i i invited her on i invited her on well if she was here i would
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gladly sit and talk with her about it but she's not here so i'm not going to do that to her that's
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not fair okay do you have any other questions of stuff i've said i because i think i covered it
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with your video um or i covered it really today is why i don't believe you um keep doing what you're
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doing uh obviously the grift it's strong so you might as well people are strong the grift is not
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strong. I'm not making, you're out here thinking I'm making all this money. I am not. You can go
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on, like, look at the tax records and everything of what we bring in. It's, it's not, I don't think
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it's necessarily money. I think you like the attention because you have to understand,
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you have to understand, let me finish. When, if I look at you as a porn star, you were an
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attention addicted person. Like that, that's your character. That's who you are. That's who you were
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from a young age. That's not who I am. That's who I was. I mean, you could gaslight me, right? But
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if it wasn't who you were today, then you wouldn't be here. No, that's not true. Why do you do what
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you do? You'd be in the back of the church. Girl, why do you do what you do? Somebody's got to do
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it. Why do you do what you do? It's fun. It's fun, but is it because you're seeking attention?
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Yep. You're really seeking attention. That's why you're doing it. I think you're gaslighting
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me now. I think the difference is I'm honest. You guys are honest. That's not true. You're
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saying that because you want me to say that, but that's not the truth. I actually, as I told you,
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when I got that word about, Oh, if you don't like what you're attracting, change what you're
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promoting. I deleted hundreds of thousands of followers off Twitter that I used to have
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off Instagram, off Facebook. I deleted it all. You don't get brownie points for that from me.
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But I'm saying that if it was attention that I was seeking, I would have kept it open.
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I didn't. I know, but the gaslighting continues because you're getting attention
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for the porn story now. You don't know my heart. That's not my heart. My heart is to help people.
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What do my actions say that I'm out here sharing my story to help people?
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I don't want women to get into this industry.
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The top comment on one of your interviews was that men are tempted to look up the porn.
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But then the amount of emails that I've also received that have said,
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I'm 30 days without porn. Thank you for sharing your story. I'm one year without porn, like corn,
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sorry. Um, the testimonies that I get are, we get testimonies daily. So I'm helping people
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simultaneously. Okay. So my friend, Rachel, she's like, uh, I don't know if you know, Rachel
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Wilson. She wanted me to ask you about this verse. She says one Timothy two 12. I do not permit a
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woman to teach or to assume authority over a man, she must be quiet. What do you think of that verse?
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I think that Paul was empowering women in a time when they were disempowered to learn.
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So they were being silent in the church because they were able to
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learn in the church for the first time. So you don't believe that verse?
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Of course I do. I just said what I believe about the verse.
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but you think it was because the women were disempowered you can't make this shit
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do the research there was a few there were a few verses prior to that or a few chapters prior to
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that where paul actually said when women pray in church they should have their head covered
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yeah so he just in one statement he said when they're praying in church to have their heads
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covered and then in another it's silent to learn so if you look at both of those and then how about
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how jesus revealed himself first to who a woman after his resurrection so it just just like pick
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and choose what bible verses we like i like i like this version of christianity i can just pick
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i can just pick and choose no it's not about picking and choosing it's about looking at
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the scriptures in its totality yeah i mean that's that sounds like female gaslighting to me
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it's not it's not and you know and and also paul was speaking against the worship of the
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goddess athena so i mean you gotta actually just sit there and study the scriptures
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that's like the further gaslighting they're like don't believe the words
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that you're reading the words you should read the words but you should also study the theological
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context okay you got anything else for me i'd love that you and rachel should do this too she's
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actually more into the theology than i am you know rachel wilson have you guys sat down
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i don't think we've sat down together rachel is she is she with like a lila rose there's a rachel
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that lila just had on her show recently i think it was a rachel wilson i'd have to check
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okay there's a super chat on the website that says please ask her if she knows of all the
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young boys with underdeveloped brains exposed to the filth she helped produce and the effects
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it has long term the underdeveloped oh are they talking about miners seeing corn yeah yeah that's
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horrible and I fight against it. I'm, I've gone on Fox news. I've trying to fight politically to
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get, um, age verification across all States. So it's horrible. And I repent for that. That's
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something that I feel very guilty about to this day. Um, but unfortunately, like I can't,
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you know, I can't go backwards. If I could, I would.
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What is the biggest disagreement you have with my platform?
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um the biggest disagreement i haven't watched enough videos like your shorts pop up on my
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stuff all the time and there's some stuff where i'm like oh that's great she's right
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but i just think um probably just the broad generalization of women and also the fact that
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you it seems like you want to you want to just point the finger and oh she's a liar she's a liar
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but it's like, you don't know me personally. If you did know me personally, I think that your
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opinion would change. And I think that that would be the same if you met other women personally
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that you sit here and you criticize. Yeah, I don't think so. I think the actions,
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I would just have to see the, I would have to see the actions. And I think too many times
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they just don't match. That's my issue. I mean, my actions are literally, I'm out here trying to
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help people and prevent them from getting into the porn industry. And that's what I use my YouTube
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for. I use it to help people get set free from pornography. That's why I'm out here.
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I'm trying to help people. I said a lot of men want to know Brittany personally.
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That's funny. Do you think there's any issue bringing in former sex workers around men that
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are trying to abstain from lust? There could be. Yeah. I mean, I could definitely see how there
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could be, especially if the woman is not modest in her appearance. I think that that could be
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a huge temptation for them. So yeah, there definitely could be. So if I did a church and
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I had, now obviously this is made up, I'm not doing a church, but I'm going to give you my
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hypothetical and I want you to tell me if you agree or disagree. If I had a sex worker come
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into my church I would say that you can come in but you need to be in a box away from all the
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husbands because we can't we can't have you I don't want to sex workers by my you know by my
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boyfriend or you know if I was married to my husband um yeah I would just I would want them
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in a different box where they could very little interaction and then um I would you know they
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could join the community after like five years of silence and service and then maybe after then they
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could be fully integrated um i would also put marriage off the table because personally i
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wouldn't really want the i the men you know they don't deserve to be with women that have sex tapes
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on the internet that can be used against them and um their kids being involved i just think it's
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that's something you kind of sacrifice when you make that choice um and i would say five years
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of good behavior and then we could start to treat them normal i think it's a whole set of rules that
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are just they're pearl made rules and jesus did not make those rules jesus sat with sinners he
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sat with prostitutes he sat with tax collectors and he invited them in with you know and always
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empowered them to go and sin no more um and so i think that that's the church's job the church is
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the church is for the sick the church is so that people can come in encounter jesus and their lives
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can be transformed and so if we just kind of outcast every person that well we just don't
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like your sin because you know your sin my husband okay you know what about the alcoholic it's like
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let me continue what about pedophiles should we keep them away from children
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i think that that's a different scenario how convenient why is that convenient because in a
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way i mean your porn was consumed by underage boys but i'm no longer i'm yeah i get what you're
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saying i just think it's a totally different i i think that's completely different because here's
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the deal it's convenient i'm getting if i'm sharing my story in church it's not because i've
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asked to be there it's because somebody said you know our church needs to hear a story to whether
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it be to humanize or just to help people to find freedom because a lot of my church is struggling
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i mostly speak to women um and so if that's that's the invite but like i i don't know if
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many people are saying let's invite the pedophile to like be speak to our i don't i just don't
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i was an adult i wasn't molesting children because men are held accountable for their
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sin and women aren't i mean producing that material you know a good chunk of them are
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guys that are underage so i don't really see how you're that different i really don't
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don't i mean yeah but i would i would i would also allow them the problem is here's the difference a
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pedophile is willing to go and do things to a child for me the the big difference is that the
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government needs to in to instill age verification so that we can protect children from watching
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these things just like uh there's a identification is required for alcohol or for gambling or for
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strip club it should also be required for people to watch corn because the legal the legal age to
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watch but then shouldn't there be a verification for ex-hoes why wouldn't why would we have the
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same standard for women that are that there's some verification that they're no longer
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whores uh i don't understand your question i'm saying you want verification age verification
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areas yeah but show me that you're 18 if this is the kind of content you show me that you're not
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a you know i think that's fair show me i'm living it out that life i'm a new creation that that life
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is old it's dead it's gone not really because it's still on the internet and you know what
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there's gonna come a day where i'm going to fight for some sort of a law to get that taken down
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because i don't think that i don't think that all these companies should be profiting off
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you know something that i did many years ago and i've changed my life around why is that so funny
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to you because women just avoid accountability at all costs you made a choice you i gotta i gotta
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to mute you you made a choice to do porn and now the know it when you made that choice you knew
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that was going to be on the internet forever as a consequence the only consequence you faced
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actually and now you're like let me get the government to remove my consequence because
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it's not fair they're making money and I'm not it's it's just the audacity of you guys at times
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i just can't i can't i i don't see how this invites people to church i think it draws more
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people away um and you're basically making church the last stop on the horror train
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it's really what i see the church becoming i want you you know i just want to know like
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who thinks for you guys like you guys all think and say the exact same thing that's like there's
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this red pill god that says this is how you must think this is what you must say it's it's wild
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because you women you guys have gone your whole life without getting men's opinion you never hear
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it you were a pretty girl so the whole world is never going to be honest with you um and when you
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hear what men have to say you just gaslight for eternity and then shame them and act like there's
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something wrong with them having that opinion. I'm not wrong because I don't believe somebody
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that knows how to manipulate men for sex. I'm not wrong because I don't have to believe you.
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It's not immoral. Yeah, that's my, that's my, more and more women, there's one super chat,
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more and more women are going into sex work and more and more women are going to skirt
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accountability. Can she recognize that fact? Does she think it's a good thing that the church is
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going to accept these women. What's that saying to women that do the right thing? Yeah.
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Does it devalue being virtuous? Does doing porn devalue being virtuous? Is that the question?
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So when women look at you and they see, oh, she did the porn. She kept the money. She got the
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husband. She got the kids. Why would a woman do the right thing? Don't you think that devalues
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women that do the right thing. I think it's all a heart posture. Like I got an email from some
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woman the other day that was just like, F you, I've been a virgin my whole life and F you and
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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, all that stuff. Um, because I'm not married, she's not
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married yet, but it's really a heart posture. And it's kind of like, well, that's why you're not
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married. No man wants to marry a woman that is like going off on other women saying F you da,
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da, da, da, da, da, da. Like, it's just sorry. Oh no, it's the audacity. I just think when you've
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done porn, you can't tell me anything. You can't. I think there's certain life choices that once
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you've made, you made those choices. Nobody can take anything you say. You can't lecture anybody
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on anything ever. Single motherhood, porn, drug addiction. Yeah, you can't. Because anyone that's
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made those choices it says something about you as a person and my other question is what is a heart
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posture your heart posture is the motive it's the reason why you do what you do right and so like
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if your heart is not aligned with christ of course you're going to be critical you're going to be
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envious of my story like and i'm not people are no it's the truth
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it's sad god has given me a beautiful life oh my god that is the grace of god and you know what
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that's so encouraging because if there's anybody here that feels like they've messed up if there's
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anybody here that's watching today and they feel like they've messed up they feel like you know
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there's no chance for them because the red pill movement is saying that you've made your nobody
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envies you oh my god nobody you keep muting me come on now i'm making a very valid point
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that if you pearl there's people here today that are watching guaranteed that feel like
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they've messed up in life and that there's no hope for them because the red pill movement
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has told them that they've you know no pun intended made their bed and have to lie in it
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right like you have to you just look at i'll tell you there's always a simp who will bail you out
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there always is um so don't worry there actually are no consequences for being a so i
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want to clarify my position there are consequences no consequences and i'm talking i'm speaking to
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to one of them you know you know you could get gang banged on camera still get married
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i never did a game thing it's okay thank you for clarifying britney you're welcome
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like thank you for clarifying oh yeah yeah bro i actually like you you're a good you're a good
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girl dude you're a good girl your tax and earnings from your career why not fully repent and donate
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it all back to your church what based on your earnings from your career it was a super chat
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why not fully repent and donate it all back to your church yeah i mean that's we give quite a
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bit back to the church but yeah i don't give it all so i don't know why not yeah maybe that's
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something i need to think about um i'm gonna give you two minutes to talk about heart posture whatever
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you want to talk about go ahead i was just i i just want people to be left here today like with
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hope genuinely like if you've made mistakes in life like whether you're a male or a female
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god can redeem your story when you start spending time with him when you worship him you pray you
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read your bible like there's nothing that god can't do in your life he is the redeemer he is
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the healer he is the restorer and so i would just like to leave people with that hope whether you're
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sitting here criticizing or judging me take me out of the equation and put your eyes on jesus
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Because when you put your eyes on Jesus, he will transform your life and he will bless
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I don't think you put your eyes on Jesus if you're always talking about your porn story.
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Unfortunately, my porn story, my corn story is a part of my story, but it's not.
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I would have never left that industry if it weren't for him.
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I would have never gotten off drugs if it weren't for him.
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I remember one day reading my Bible, feeling like the Holy Spirit was telling me to flush
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It was the first time in seven years that I didn't get dope sick.
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Like I'm telling you, like God is the God of miraculous.
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He's a miraculous God and he's done so much in my life.
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My story gives him the glory because I am who I am today, not because of anything I've
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so my message is really women become whores say sorry take that money get that bag
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there's plenty of simpson church that'll just wipe up and there's a there's a book on you're
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you're pushing it there's a book on your website about how men can forgive body count so yeah so
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why stay i actually didn't write that um god can forgive you my husband wrote the book i did not
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write the book and it's because that is one of the questions that we get asked the most in our
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ministry because here's some stories too and this will be a story you'll enjoy because there have
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been many women that have lied to men and then they got married and then the man is like i married
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this woman she told me that she didn't even that she had maybe a two or three body count i'm finding
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out that it's much higher what do i do we're married like i don't want to just leave her
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and so we get that question quite a bit and that's why my husband wrote a book on it he would
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have never my husband doesn't care about all this stuff he wasn't a porn watcher my husband's a
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great man of god like he's a wonderful man but because he got asked this question so much he
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shared the revelations with him that jesus shared with him in our dating and yeah so so so future
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whores um get yeah become 18 do exactly what she did oh and then there's a book there's a book to
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help you after stop it all right now stop don't listen to her don't you did you know i'm muting
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her a mistake is not a mistake is not eight years dude a mistake is like i got too drunk one day and
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did blah blah blah or mistake is like oh i was at that party i did that eight years the audacity
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you're gonna tell me you did it oh my god yeah so
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i'll unmute you sorry the how do you horrible decisions with my life and i don't want anybody
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to follow down that same path so that's what i'm saying don't listen to pearl when she says that
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don't don't do it you might as well just do it because if i'm looking at results if i'm looking
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at results it seemed to have worked out fine for her um the other thing i'll say is you are not
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entitled to not be judged a lot of women think they can do bad things and not be and like some
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how people are wrong for making judgments about their character for doing those bad things you
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know i would not trust jordan belford with my wallet i wouldn't i know he's done this rebrand
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after wolf of wall street i still wouldn't give him my money i i think you're not entitled for
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people to trust you right when you yeah so yeah i feel bad for judging i say judge harder because
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that's the only consequence they will have uh because these simps will bail them out of
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everything thank you for the donation in the in the spotlight the judgment does not bother me one
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bit i understand that people are going to judge and even jesus says that if the world hated him
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that they'll hate us too so it is what it is you guys are not the same jesus said he said in his
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word if the world hates me they will hate you too talking to his believers to his followers
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yeah i don't i don't i don't hate you i don't hate you i just i'm not saying you in general
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i think you're i just think you're manipulative i'm not pearl you manipulated people for eight
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years and you're like oh i pearl believe me that i don't manipulate anymore why would i
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because i am a new creation but i don't have to prove that to you and it's totally fine you can
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feel you can feel and think whatever you think about me but i know that if you met me off camera
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you would love me yeah okay how did how you're fun you're fun come on you're a funny person
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you're more fun I mean I've seen the video come on okay now you're crossed the line how does she
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reciprocate her oh I've crossed a lot it's like the you can't tell me anything there's certain
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choices it's like a crack addict you know getting mad oh you said something disrespectful bitch you
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did crack like you the audacity um how how does she reciprocate her husband having to deal with
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her shame it's horrible we've had many conversations about it um but he's oh god you give him
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conversations oh god he has to listen to you talk and what does he get what's the like i'm making
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up for it. I mean, we have a wonderful marriage. What do you guys want to know? Like, I'm not
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going to go into details about our private life. We have a wonderful marriage. So he is a happy
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husband and I'm also a happy wife. Well, I would say that if porn stars really wanted to offer
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value to the church, I will give you my recommendation. I would say the value really
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is not going to be in the telling us about the scripture. I just think there's better men that
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can do that. But a lot of Christian women need to start having sex with their husbands. And
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obviously you knew what you were doing. So I would say that's really the best way that
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blowjob tips, that would probably be the best way that porn stars could contribute to the church.
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Gluck, gluck, 9,000, baby. You know what I mean?
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Girl. I'm dead serious. Well, I appreciate you coming on. That's really all I got.
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yeah i said what i said um i still don't believe you yes you do
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oh my god i'm just messing with you i am just messing you've said some inappropriate things
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do you understand the audacity you have you telling me that inappropriate things
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okay i did inappropriate things i have repented you are currently saying inappropriate oh my god
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okay okay so let me get this straight you had sex with 100 men on camera very inappropriate
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very inappropriate and i condemn that behavior i'm inappropriate because i mention it i mention
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a gluck gluck for the for the for the married men the men that are married they don't deserve
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the gluck gluck 9000 but the men on camera did it's like yes there's some things you guess you
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can say it more appropriately okay now you gotta tone police me on my show it's like the audacity
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you can't tell me anything okay pearl okay that's all that's all well uh yeah i say do what
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she did um you might as well um that's really what i got from this but thanks for coming on
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you've been a good sport thank you i see where they could find you but i mean they can just google
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your work to be stop it my work was under a different name so no it's not that easy hopefully
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um like so easy i found you know i found it pretty quick so it's like you know how i can get that
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deleted no you you don't get to erase your consequences britney do you know whores always
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okay i want to know like what what is it with you and consequences like why is that like such a
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oh a thing for you like oh consequences you must suffer um because generally um when you do a bad
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action there's a consequence and women just go through life evading every consequence knowing
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to man and when they do have a consequence now they want the government to get involved and get
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rid of their consequences has that been your experience where you've done things that maybe
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you should have gotten in trouble for but because you're a woman you didn't no it's been my
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experience watching you guys really the porn stars blackpilled me i i mean even melania now she's
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trying to get her dudes off the internet i'm like what does that mean that they black what does that
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mean they blackpilled you what did they give me some examples well it's blackpilling that
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Porn, you know, normally when you have to lecture somebody on something or you speak with authority, you have to like earn that right, like do something hard.
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It's really blackpilling when I see churches give women microphones and they don't give them to the men that have been like studying for 10 years.
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They say, oh, you did a gangbang or you did you had sex with 50 men on camera.
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own so they get rewarded for doing the wrong thing and then when you guys are like oh this
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is my ministry and i'm like i think they're doing it for attention and then they like have their
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cameras up and then they're like we're not doing this for attention it makes me lose hope in men's
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discernment the future of christianity and the future of this country when things like that
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Yeah, I will agree with one thing that you say there is that like when women do come into the
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church, especially when they've had a promiscuous lifestyle, I think that it's extremely important
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for men to practice discernment. Like you have to investigate before you invest into a woman.
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Like if you are going to get with a woman with a promiscuous past, you don't just believe her
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because she says, I become a Christian. It really is testing the actions. Like how do they go
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through life, like watch them for a few years. Are they really practicing purity? Are they
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practicing modesty? Because you want to look at the fruit of somebody's life. And so I think that
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men have to be responsible in that area to go like, I'm going to protect my heart and my life
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by not just jumping into a relationship with a woman just because she says she's saved.
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Yeah. I think that there's certain decisions that disqual that in a perfect world would just
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disqualify you from ever getting married. Unfortunately, they're sexually starved men
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with usually little to no other choice. So they'll do it. That's sad. But they should be sexually
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starved until marriage, right? Because that's what we believe. Sex is for marriage. Red pill is
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learning about female nature. Black pill is accepting it and moving on with your life,
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moving on from women serious serious relationships and marriage
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so yeah it's pretty much it it's all i got for you all right girl searching you in the chat so
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um i'd actually it'd be interesting to have you on with rachel if you do want to come back if
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this wasn't too tough for you i'll think about it i'll do my research and i'll let you know
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Cool. Thanks for coming on. I appreciate you being a good sport.
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She asked, guys, what is it with you and consequences?
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It's like that was the most female question ever.
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I say whores. You might as well keep whoring until you're 32.
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I'm almost 32, so maybe I'll pick a religion to grift soon.
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Thanks for watching, and we'll talk to you next time.