Pearl - September 27, 2024


Friday Reaction - Charlie Kirk Debates Leftist Gen Z | Pearl Daily


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00:02:18.360 So a couple announcements before we get started.
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00:02:25.540 Thank you for tuning in at noon today.
00:02:29.300 I have a flight to catch today, so I had to go in early.
00:02:35.760 But I just saw this video, and I think I reacted to a small clip of it earlier this week.
00:02:42.500 And I just wanted to analyze some of the debates that people are, I guess, covering or doing this election season.
00:02:52.260 It's so interesting now that the election is a month away.
00:02:56.360 You see politicians and debaters and media people interacting with Gen Z because I think they're going to be very important for this election season.
00:03:07.960 You can even see them reaching out to young women.
00:03:12.260 As you guys know, young women are, or single women are the biggest swing voters and they
00:03:16.540 tend to decide elections.
00:03:18.920 So it's going to be interesting to see what Gen Z's political opinions are like.
00:03:37.960 and I can't hear it oh it's me sorry I'm really nervous I'm really nervous yeah
00:03:46.000 that's great thank you have a good one kind of a hat no very bad thank you
00:03:49.600 Charlie you've stated that you're not into criminalizing the mother for an
00:03:54.640 abortion why is that like how can we make a law that has no consequences well
00:04:01.080 there's there's two parts of this right the first of which is no person should
00:04:06.600 to advocate for retroactive enforcement of something that was once legal to then make
00:04:12.380 illegal. We can agree with that, right? Right. Yeah. So I would agree if tomorrow they made
00:04:18.580 abortion illegal, we could not put people in jail that have already had them. You can't punish
00:04:27.340 people for a law that, a new law that did not exist 10 years ago. So I would agree.
00:04:32.400 No matter what the law is, you cannot claw back. For example, if all of a sudden the government says you can't have a public assembly like this and that is effective tomorrow, they can't go back today and put us all in prison. Right. So that's number one. Retroactive. Number two, my heart goes out to women that have abortions. Right. Because they're lied to and manipulated. And it's based.
00:04:54.420 So, again, this is the same thing that we've talked about before. 0.87
00:04:58.680 It's always the women didn't know. 0.77
00:05:00.640 Plausible deniability lets us get away with, in this case, murder. 0.81
00:05:06.900 They're always going to default to the woman does not know better 1.00
00:05:11.820 because he has more of a blue-pilled mindset.
00:05:15.720 So when men are more blue-pilled, they tend to view women as innocent,
00:05:20.880 they just don't know any better and they always always always give women the benefit of the doubt
00:05:27.020 so these are the guys that have a tendency to
00:05:32.840 marry women with a promiscuous past because they always always always give women the benefit of
00:05:40.920 the doubt on one very simple medical principle the lack of informed consent i do not believe
00:05:47.920 women largely when they get abortions know what they're doing they're not given all so this we
00:05:52.800 this is not true i have shown women abortion videos and they do not care occasionally you
00:05:59.600 may get one um that i would argue pretends to care after the fact um but i look at actions i don't
00:06:07.440 look at words and i think one of men's greatest weaknesses is they always fall for women crying
00:06:13.840 Myron has a saying where he says that a woman's only true tears are the ones that she cries
00:06:20.840 in private. 1.00
00:06:21.840 I agree with this. 0.95
00:06:22.840 I don't really buy the women that come on these shows and say they really regret these 0.97
00:06:27.260 abortions because I believe if they were put in that position again they would still do 0.95
00:06:32.140 the same thing because biologically women do not want to pass on genes that they believe 1.00
00:06:39.080 are subpar. 1.00
00:06:40.080 This is evolution.
00:06:41.080 This is how it's always been.
00:06:42.080 I don't think it's right, I'm pro-life, if it was up to me. 1.00
00:06:45.980 It would be illegal and the women would be thrown in jail, but it's not. 0.99
00:06:49.480 And I don't see this issue going away anytime soon. 0.99
00:06:54.960 Sounds for their baby.
00:06:56.760 They're not informed of the gruesome and graphic details surrounding their procedure.
00:07:02.240 Instead, the justice system should be focused on the abortionists that are actually doing that procedure.
00:07:07.600 And who are the abortionists? 0.60
00:07:09.040 It's the men.
00:07:09.700 So whenever there is a choice where we can blame women or blame men, we have a tendency as a society to blame the men.
00:07:22.680 Like if we say, I'll give you another example.
00:07:25.220 When we say the marriage rates are declining and we want to look at who is in charge of marriage, whose choice is that?
00:07:36.300 Why are marriage rates not declining?
00:07:38.820 Now, the initial reaction is to blame the men.
00:07:41.380 Well, men don't want to get married anymore.
00:07:44.460 But if we look at the average age of first marriage is 31.
00:07:49.220 Men hit their peak around 35,
00:07:52.060 and sometimes if they stay in shape, it goes higher and higher. 1.00
00:07:56.320 That indicates that it's actually the women that are delaying marriage 1.00
00:08:00.500 because when we have the most choice, we're not picking it. 0.77
00:08:03.600 So even in that case, they still blame the men
00:08:05.980 when the men are actually cashing out sooner than the women. 0.99
00:08:12.220 In most cases, women are the gatekeepers of marriage 0.97
00:08:15.680 because so many men are being excluded 0.99
00:08:21.080 from the sexual marketplace.
00:08:24.540 Okay, but that's just another example
00:08:27.020 where we're blaming the men 0.88
00:08:31.420 for something that women are doing.
00:08:33.700 When one out of three women are getting an abortion, 1.00
00:08:35.980 Now, I don't know when one out of three women are getting an abortion, that's far more of 0.98
00:08:42.980 a woman's choice, right?
00:08:45.660 And women say that, it's a woman's choice, men shouldn't have an opinion, they agree.
00:08:52.200 But yet when we get to the conservative commentators, they still find a way to blame it on the men.
00:08:58.000 And personally I think that's wrong.
00:08:59.920 If I hire a hitman, just because he pulled the trigger, I still know what I'm doing when
00:09:05.100 I hire the hitman and if I don't I can google it and I am still responsible when and if anything
00:09:15.260 I would argue more responsible because the hitman is just doing a job where that person
00:09:21.580 is putting a hit on somebody so does that make sense I mean I guess but the person also committing
00:09:28.940 the crime like killing her baby is i feel like should also be held responsible and i like that
00:09:36.060 i like that women are starting to wake up we don't need and i don't know if he's doing this
00:09:40.780 because he's trying to appeal to female voters and he's in a tough position because his audience he
00:09:46.940 can never come out as pro-choice his audience is way too conservative that would go against his base
00:09:53.260 but he has to have been in politics long enough to know that the abortion issue will never change
00:09:58.700 There's no way that you can go and be in politics for 10 years.
00:10:02.260 And I know maybe to the average person, this seems immoral, right?
00:10:10.020 But what I would say is when you're in a position where you're negotiating with people,
00:10:16.620 you have to think about what is realistic and what is unrealistic.
00:10:21.300 And what I would say is that getting abortion banned, I could, if I wanted to, do a tirade about how wrong and immoral abortion is.
00:10:31.640 And while I would agree, that would be ineffective because Roe versus Wade is here to stay.
00:10:39.180 If one out of three women are getting abortions and women are the biggest swing voters, your chance of that going away is zero. 0.75
00:10:47.020 What a more effective policy to reduce abortion would be, I would argue, is getting rid of child support and letting men opt out of fatherhood the way that women are able to opt out of motherhood. 0.79
00:11:06.120 Because if you increase the consequences for casual sex, then, and you actually hold women 0.90
00:11:13.740 responsible for their decisions, you may see a decrease in the irresponsible behavior. 0.77
00:11:21.460 But what conservatives, and this is why I always try to say conservatives do the same
00:11:25.660 thing liberals do, because they keep handing women get-out-of-jail-free cards.
00:11:31.000 and what's interesting is if you ask conservatives about homeless men they never give them a get out
00:11:39.120 of jail spree card they will do a whole tirade about how the men need to get a job they'll do
00:11:43.780 a whole tirade about how the men need to step up if we hear that there aren't enough marriageable
00:11:49.920 men what do the conservatives say the men just need to do better well why is it always the men
00:11:57.380 and that's what i call it the what about the what about the men though syndrome where if you say
00:12:04.480 anything about women if we say hey maybe if abortions murder we should hold the women that
00:12:12.240 are committing a crime responsible they say no no no that's the doctor's fault and so i can't really 0.72
00:12:21.540 when you treat us like children and you can see this woman she's kind of waking up
00:12:28.360 where she's thinking no I'm an adult we can make our decisions we know what we're doing 0.82
00:12:37.100 and once you wake up to this epidemic of simping it's an epidemic guys where
00:12:43.300 let's give us get out of jail free cards and then
00:12:46.160 throw our hands up and and we can't believe the way that we're acting well of course when you
00:12:55.640 give women plausible deniability every chance you get where if we get an abortion we just didn't 0.92
00:13:01.020 know um I don't know how we could not know when you see like sometimes I wonder do you guys go 0.90
00:13:09.200 to these pro-choice marches where the women are arguing for abortions they have the babies there
00:13:13.800 and you see the pro-life people showing them the videos they don't care and it is what it is you
00:13:21.300 know like how can we ban abortions and the mom just still be let go is that a lot okay it's like
00:13:30.000 he does not compute she's like no I think I think women are responsible for their decisions just like
00:13:37.540 men are responsible for their decisions does not compute does not compute uh yeah we're just not
00:13:44.020 going to agree i just don't she first of all she's not doing the act many times she's being forced
00:13:49.220 into that situation by someone paying for that abortion such as a uh someone that she might have
00:13:54.740 had a relationship with or even in terrible um pimps also do it as well but we're not going to 0.89
00:14:00.660 to agree because i think captain save a hoe captain save a hoe the pimps as we talked about class 0.90
00:14:13.820 remember i've interviewed tons of sex workers they don't do it because they're forced into it 0.95
00:14:20.720 they don't do it for money the average only fans model makes about either 150 or 200 a month so if
00:14:29.420 going to ask the question based on the stats and say are women doing sex work for money the answer
00:14:36.300 would be no because we have up to and this is disputed but i've seen numbers one out of ten
00:14:43.100 to one out of five women under the age of 35 doing some sort of sex work and at the end of it you
00:14:48.620 find out there's not even money that would indicate that they do it or we do it for something other
00:14:54.380 than money. And this is the reality I'm trying to bring back to America because I get very
00:15:00.980 frustrated when I watch these debates because I don't, facts don't care about your feelings
00:15:07.920 according to the right until the facts go against the what about or go against the women 1.00
00:15:14.640 are wonderful and awesome and amazing syndrome at all times. Our posture on abortion should 0.98
00:15:19.820 be compassion for the women that have abortions and get abortions and justice can we imagine if
00:15:25.680 we said you know charlie could you see him saying this let's talk about a men's issue so
00:15:31.080 a men's issue is homelessness charlie don't you think we should have compassion for the men that
00:15:36.880 are on the streets that are homeless no the conservatives say get a job and what they don't
00:15:42.720 know is so i interviewed a a man named terrence pop and he is out of michigan and he went homeless
00:15:54.200 he was an ex-military um veteran and he served in iraq um i think he did three tours um he did
00:16:02.140 combat tours but he's like a badass he did a lot of stuff in the military and he actually became
00:16:07.900 homeless because he was put on such high child support and the issue with military men is because
00:16:14.200 they're gone so much of the year their custody is automatically given to the woman and what he found
00:16:21.880 was when he would go to these homeless shelters he would say according to him right take this or
00:16:26.780 leave it I want to say it was seven to eight out of ten of the homeless men at those shelters had
00:16:33.160 just given up on life because they were put on such absurd amounts of child support that
00:16:38.200 they just couldn't keep up with it and yet conservatives will still talk about the deadbeat
00:16:45.560 dad issue but when I did my interviews what I found out is most deadbeat deadbeat dads are
00:16:52.260 deadbeat moms because they kicked the dad out of the home they put him on an absorbent amounts of
00:16:58.900 child support. And in some cases, it's 70 to 80% of their income. And they never have compassion 1.00
00:17:10.980 ever for those men. When you say, well, you know, the woman went and divorced him, what's their
00:17:18.060 answer? It's, well, why did she divorce? He must not have been a good enough Christian. Well,
00:17:23.760 Well, I mean, I interviewed one guy who was a, he went to Latin mass, Catholic mass.
00:17:30.520 And as far as I could tell, didn't do drugs, didn't commit crimes.
00:17:36.920 And it was one of the most horrific divorce stories I'd ever heard.
00:17:39.980 And this was a devout Catholic man.
00:17:43.900 And I kept finding this.
00:17:45.320 I found a pastor who had eight children whose wife did the same thing.
00:17:49.800 And I kept thinking, well, you want them to be more close to God than a pastor?
00:17:54.560 What more do you guys want? 0.96
00:17:56.020 But there's never, ever, ever compassion for men's issues. 0.93
00:18:00.220 It's always, whenever we do something wrong, it's always somehow the men's fault. 0.83
00:18:06.540 And I'm to the point I'm getting sick of it.
00:18:08.500 I don't like being pandered to.
00:18:10.020 I don't like the simping.
00:18:11.460 And I don't like treating us like children.
00:18:13.540 We're adults.
00:18:14.720 And as an adult, you are responsible for the decisions you make, good or bad.
00:18:19.040 so the more we have conservatives just pandering and simping and just and just giving us a get out 1.00
00:18:27.020 of jail free card I find it offensive and I don't understand why more women aren't offended by this
00:18:32.900 if you're a woman and you haven't done these things right if you've never gotten an abortion 0.99
00:18:38.240 you know that the women that get abortions know what they're doing you know that 0.99
00:18:44.960 most of the time every woman I know personally that's gotten an abortion was irresponsible 1.00
00:18:51.080 every single one was dating the guy every single one had a family she could have gone back to that 1.00
00:18:58.640 totally would have helped her but the women did not deem that man's genes as worthy of passing on 0.97
00:19:05.760 and that is biological that's biology I'm not saying you have to be what do they say a slave
00:19:12.780 to your biology right i'm not saying just because your biology says you should do it
00:19:17.900 but what i am saying is they know what they're doing and you are no better than the liberals
00:19:24.300 if you give women a get out of jail free card 24 7. it's for the industry that lies to them okay
00:19:30.300 thank you thank you all right everyone shuffle around okay hi um i'm rachel i already off the
00:19:39.740 the bat, I do not agree with a lot of politically what any of you have to say, but I'm a part of
00:19:44.660 Bridge Pittsburgh, which is an organization that believes in having civil discussion without yelling
00:19:49.560 at each other. So I actually have some friends from Turning Point back there, even though I am a
00:19:53.940 registered Democrat. So what's up, Jesse? That's cool. My question is actually for you, Vivek. First
00:19:57.960 off, thanks for coming. Second, as a person of color and as someone of Indian descent, does it
00:20:05.240 offend you whenever there's comments made about Kamala and some racial
00:20:09.920 sensitivities on that does that offend you in any way or hurt you or does that
00:20:13.120 drive you to still try to be representative of your party even when
00:20:16.760 those comments are made by your party give me a specific comment okay well
00:20:19.920 for example the recent thing that was um if Kamala got elected the White House
00:20:23.780 would smell like curry is that offend you in any way or is that just like drive
00:20:27.620 for you to for the record Trump did not say no Trump Trump Donald Trump did not
00:20:31.460 say that, but it was still implied as there's a presidential election. I'm actually, I'm a pretty
00:20:36.920 thick-skinned guy. I can tell the difference between somebody who has an earnest joke and the
00:20:39.980 person who actually happens to say that, I happen to know is, doesn't have ill will towards Indian
00:20:44.300 people. But if you're going to joke, my only rule is you better apply 360 degrees, okay? You can't
00:20:48.600 apply it selectively. Here's actually my view on this, is a lot of Indian Americans across the
00:20:53.160 country actually have been somewhat disappointed for a long time about Kamala Harris's willingness
00:20:58.980 to engage with and listen to a lot of the concerns even of the Indian American community.
00:21:03.220 I'll tell you what one of them are, is relating to merit, merit in getting into college,
00:21:08.480 merit in getting into jobs without regard to your skin color or your discrimination.
00:21:14.140 I think most people want that better life for their kids.
00:21:17.720 And so I think most people think about that regardless of their skin color.
00:21:20.220 But if you're thinking about actual concerns of the Indian American community, that's probably
00:21:23.320 very high on the list, and Kamala Harris is failing to embody that.
00:21:27.320 Now, for me, my own view is, let me level with you a little bit.
00:21:31.040 I actually think we have seen an unusual level, like it is in the last year, okay?
00:21:38.180 And it's strange.
00:21:40.280 A small uptick in anti-black and anti-Hispanic racism in the country.
00:21:44.980 And I would have never thought we were going to see it.
00:21:46.960 Here's why I think we've seen it.
00:21:48.620 I think we've seen it as a reactionary response to the anti-racist movement for the last 10 years
00:21:54.540 because there's no better way to foster racial animus
00:21:58.200 than to take something else away from someone
00:22:01.160 based on their skin color.
00:22:02.700 So when you say you don't get that federal aid
00:22:04.420 or you don't get that seat in college
00:22:06.080 or you don't get that job because of your skin color,
00:22:08.560 you're going to have a negative attitude
00:22:10.000 towards the person who was favored because of their race.
00:22:13.380 And this is what's going on in Springfield too, by the way,
00:22:15.600 when I'm visiting tomorrow.
00:22:16.900 In a certain sense, if you're going to put 20,000 people
00:22:19.760 who are not going to be able to integrate into a community
00:22:22.040 into that community,
00:22:23.060 i sympathize with people who are suffering as a consequence of that that's necessarily going to
00:22:29.240 spawn a reactionary response he's such a politician that was such a good answer he is such a politician
00:22:36.640 agree with you on that when you said that earlier and then but then you can't blame the reactionary
00:22:39.920 response and say there was this okay we're gonna and i don't really care about oh this is the next
00:22:44.460 one you put right there i heard this woman thank you i heard the next woman flashed him to try to
00:22:50.000 it taken off of youtube don't don't get excited guys they blur it so don't everything's pg all
00:22:58.160 right but do you feel uh proud of yourself for debating college kids um who are unprepared to
00:23:06.080 speak in front of an audience like yourself okay what remember why does she have this point of view
00:23:13.680 50 years ago college kids were getting married having children or or at least that was their
00:23:21.900 trajectory but for some reason I don't know why we view 18 year olds as children they're adults
00:23:29.820 and it goes back to the plausible deniability I was young so I didn't know what I was doing no
00:23:40.320 no no you know what you're doing you might not have the wisdom to make the right decision
00:23:47.360 but you always know what you're doing and the women get you guys on this all the time i don't
00:23:54.000 know i'm like guys they know what they're doing she's 18. hold on hold on hold on um you're 30
00:24:00.880 years old we we can agree you're 30 years old right do you think that's a little bit silly
00:24:07.200 are you a voter i am a voter oh so i vote and you vote so i'm talking to voters of this country that
00:24:12.480 will determine the future of western civilization that's what i'm doing here too yeah wait hold on
00:24:18.880 how is it any different than a professor talking to you than a professor talking to you who who are
00:24:24.160 you well enough important enough for you to come up to a microphone actually when i first saw this
00:24:30.960 ad i thought it was like a like an improv comedy thing it looked so ridiculous that i didn't even
00:24:36.400 think it was real. Well, no, you could see, look how popular Trump is on your campus. How does that
00:24:41.960 make you feel? That's not comedy. That is a five alarm fire for Kamala Harris because she's
00:24:50.220 probably going to lose Pennsylvania. But no, I just want to be clear. Is there something wrong
00:24:57.900 with talking to voters? No, there's nothing wrong with talking. Well, that's what we're doing here
00:25:02.080 today it's an open i think that you push a dangerous agenda such as
00:25:08.640 your stance on uh abortion rights for example there we go
00:25:15.040 okay so what did i tell you guys this election season biology proceeds all
00:25:23.280 because for 50 years we've said it's a woman's right to choose why do we have that phrase 0.97
00:25:33.500 our biological imperative comes first it comes before everything so if you look at female voters 0.56
00:25:41.240 they have a tendency to vote for this one issue and the reason I say this is because 1.00
00:25:48.540 i think as women we should know the way that they the media and companies have a tendency
00:25:55.900 to manipulate us a lot of us are very neurotic and so what happens is you have companies that
00:26:02.940 will say cancer is going to get you or the republicans are going to get you or this this 0.89
00:26:09.280 this this and this insert bad guy insert abortion for election season um it could be the gmos that 0.87
00:26:19.600 are going to give you cancer and then they're trying to sell you a solution or in this case 0.94
00:26:24.880 they're trying to make you vote and because we have such as women we're a bit neurotic we have 0.87
00:26:31.440 very high anxiety um what happens is they use this against us in order to further their cause
00:26:42.800 or get us to the polls or whatever let me ask a question what is what is your name gene gene and
00:26:51.440 what is your understanding of the current republican party's stance on federal intervention
00:26:57.200 in abortion? Well, I know that they want to bring it back to the states, right? So it sounds like
00:27:03.000 you do know that the Republican Party's current stance on abortion is they're against a federal
00:27:06.820 ban on abortion. And a lot of conservatives hate this, okay? And I've heard, I've seen,
00:27:13.200 he's a friend of mine. He's really, I like him, but I've seen Bryson Gray say that that's wrong
00:27:20.120 and you need to, like, that's completely wrong, right? We, it needs to be a federal ban. But again,
00:27:27.080 there's when you speak to and interview people that have run large companies it forces them
00:27:35.800 to have to negotiate with people and when you negotiate with people again you have to think 1.00
00:27:41.560 about what is realistic and what is not realistic the republicans are negotiating with the female
00:27:49.440 vote. Now, you could argue that, and I have, I'm not going to make that argument, but you
00:27:57.600 could argue that it shouldn't be this way, but it is this way. So this is the system
00:28:03.500 that we have. We have to think if women are the biggest swing voters, they're 55% of the
00:28:09.320 population, they have the most effect on elections, what can we negotiate with women with? So 1.00
00:28:15.940 if women have a lot of high paying tech jobs okay we can sell to them lower taxes so you guys have 0.99
00:28:24.800 more money what you're not going to sell to us and i don't think this is right i don't think it's 0.94
00:28:31.940 correct i wish it wasn't this way but you are not going to take abortion away from them it will not
00:28:39.380 happen not in my lifetime so if we want we can go to the clinics and protest and I totally
00:28:47.520 understand why we do that because it is disgusting and I think it's wrong but it's still not effective
00:28:56.060 and we can see that by the increase in the number of abortions every year
00:29:01.540 even after Roe versus Wade was overturned so that tells us through hell and high water this is here
00:29:09.040 to stay so the republican party is saying what can we negotiate with them on 0.98
00:29:16.560 if i wanted to be the most effective and appealing to female voters
00:29:23.200 it's tough because i know you may lose christian conservatives if you ever go
00:29:28.160 full pro-choice so i think the leave it to the states is probably the smartest thing they can do
00:29:34.640 but it it's tough because whenever you talk about how that's not effective the way people tend to
00:29:45.980 hear it is they hear it as you're pro-choice and you're just giving up but again I think we got to
00:29:56.360 pick our battles and which ones we can actually win and just from looking at just looking at the
00:30:04.900 market and having spoken to a lot of people about their cultural and political opinions
00:30:10.340 that is not going anywhere do you understand we're talking about a presidential election
00:30:16.080 as the important election that we're talking about here i understand that yes great so again
00:30:20.420 i think this open dialogue is great i think it's great you're here challenging charlie and i think
00:30:24.340 it's great that he's willing to travel campuses across this country to talk to the next generation
00:30:28.900 we need more conversation now where's the disagreement though on content because you
00:30:32.440 could criticize style or why you're talking to people listen on someone personally but where
00:30:36.020 do you actually disagree that was a great political answer you see how he gave her like the like I
00:30:42.180 think this is great I think this is great and instead of going right at her and saying
00:30:47.800 like why are you here that's what he's trying to say he's trying to say
00:30:54.340 ma'am, why are you here? What is your actual disagreement? Why are you just here to argue?
00:31:01.580 But see, this is how men have to learn because men go through life and they're direct with us.
00:31:10.700 How Charlie, did you see how Charlie was super direct with her and she's getting all defensive,
00:31:15.760 da, da, da, da, da. So then men, they look at the market and they say, how can I win in this?
00:31:20.540 because this is not effective and then i think he's doing like a compliment it's called a
00:31:27.820 compliment sandwich so it's like you say a positive a positive and then you give the negative
00:31:32.620 or a positive a negative and then a positive i agree substance with the way that you edit content
00:31:39.660 and specifically frame it so that people look bad talking to you you the way that you edit your
00:31:47.660 content we post unedited content do you see this is so funny it's like it's like the men
00:31:56.860 because vivex obviously learned this right so charlie is direct and this is how men start off
00:32:05.740 and vivek is like when men learn to play politics and talk to us a little bit nicer
00:32:11.980 let me just let me just ask you one thing though because we could personal personal
00:32:15.420 Insults can fly in all directions. Where is an area where you have a disagreement with
00:32:20.620 the conservative movement, with Donald Trump, with Charlie Kirk, perhaps with myself? I was
00:32:24.860 a presidential candidate last year. I think we need to talk about that more in the open.
00:32:28.220 And the more we do, the stronger our country is going to be. We've got a long line of people,
00:32:31.340 but I want to hear from you one substantive area where you have an authentic disagreement.
00:32:37.340 You see, it's like you could say, ma'am, why are you here?
00:32:41.100 Or you could say, I'd love to hear where you have an authentic disagreement.
00:32:45.980 he's so good at politics he's one of the best politicians i think in my lifetime when it
00:32:50.460 comes to communication he that was he was so good that's why he did so well so young and
00:32:56.540 gained such a following you can tell he has really studied and learned um like he's had
00:33:04.860 some sort of media training i don't know what but and i'd be glad to address it i'm sure charlie would
00:33:09.820 to just in any anything any political relating to any political topic where you have a disagreement
00:33:17.500 see that he could have dunked on her he knows he could have dunked on her but he's like here
00:33:22.460 young woman let me let me set you up let me be a little nicer let's air it okay um i disagree
00:33:33.100 with uh the some of the uh laws that are being pushed in congress um that are against the lgbtq
00:33:41.260 community and the trans community okay so let's talk about that i'm gonna give you my view and
00:33:48.220 then i want to hear yours okay my view is that if you're a fully grown adult 18 or above you're free
00:33:54.860 to live how you want dress how you want marry who you want if you want if you're over the age of 18.
00:34:00.940 i agree but you are not free to indoctrinate children in schools who are not yet of the
00:34:06.460 age of consent you are not free just as you're a 17 year old or a 15 year old can't get a tattoo
00:34:12.700 on their own i don't think that you should be able to go or until the age of 18. and so the lines
00:34:20.300 that i draw here is that men are free to claim to be women and swim in swimming pools you're not
00:34:25.420 flee to claim trophies in a women's sports competition so if it was charlie right what
00:34:30.780 charlie would have done is he would have said what law name the specific law you said you have
00:34:35.420 a disagreement that's totally the route he would have went but vivek is playing chess not checkers
00:34:44.300 he's going to get the same thing across but he's going to do it the politician way you guys see
00:34:50.620 the difference so he's saying okay i'm gonna tell he's like talking to her like a kid almost i'm
00:34:55.900 gonna tell you where i disagree this is my point of view what's your point of view you're not free
00:35:02.380 to enter a women's locker room you're not free to change a language and you're not free to actually
00:35:06.540 indoctrinate our children who are under the age of five in schools do we agree on the fact that 0.70
00:35:11.340 adults should be able to live freely while still treating children differently if so we're on the
00:35:15.100 the same side of this issue. Listen, I agree with the majority of what you've said. However,
00:35:23.200 I don't think that you're understanding the implications of the laws that are trying to be
00:35:31.820 passed. Look, we got a head start on the conversation. We got a long line behind you.
00:35:36.760 But my only ask is forget the personal attacks or the stylistic attacks. Focus on substance.
00:35:42.320 the more we debate that the stronger we're going to be as a country thank you for coming thank you
00:35:45.600 i don't think you're focusing on substance though that's the issue hold on
00:35:51.520 what he intentionally tried to provoke substance out of you
00:36:00.640 it's like like this is so funny to me because it's before media training after media training
00:36:08.080 where charlie's like ma'am
00:36:16.640 he just gave you the
00:36:20.000 ma'am he just gave you kid gloves and vivek he's very polished anyways and you said well
00:36:26.480 i'm worried about some laws congress should pass i have to ask what laws are you talking about
00:36:31.440 can you be specific now she's putting her boob out because she's trying to get it taken off of youtube 1.00
00:36:38.080 Why do we, as women, women know that sexuality is their primary agency, that is the number 1.00
00:36:48.920 one way you can get attention. 0.90
00:36:51.960 Women know this. 1.00
00:36:53.580 And so that's why, you might wonder, why is she putting her boob out? 1.00
00:36:58.500 Why do women have slut marches where they get naked? 1.00
00:37:03.060 Why are there serious political marches where they're just getting naked? 1.00
00:37:07.420 because that's the primary way that women know how to get attention so that's that's what she's doing 0.91
00:37:16.700 i'm sorry i'm very nervous but uh this is what you do this is what you do you take people
00:37:21.500 and you put them under the spotlight and you well hold on i didn't i didn't ask you to come up here
00:37:27.100 you voluntarily came to the front of the line you didn't have to do that you're purposely
00:37:31.660 antagonizing people on campus asking people to come up by spreading so the reason she's saying
00:37:36.780 you're purposely antagonizing people. Men go through life realizing they have to change their
00:37:45.980 language to appease women. And so she views it that way because he, if Charlie was in a different
00:37:57.580 setting, let's say that he did not go down the political commentator route, he would have had
00:38:02.540 to have changed his language if he went into corporate America he would have had 0.99
00:38:07.100 to do it if he went into being a police officer I mean unless it's an all-male 0.52
00:38:19.820 space so like oil rigs like super super hard jobs men learn that if they want to 0.91
00:38:26.840 get ahead in life they're going to have to change their language so when a guy
00:38:30.620 is not doing that she is going to view it as you're antagonizing because she
00:38:38.860 doesn't understand that's how men talk they're a bit more direct and Charlie
00:38:45.980 has never had to learn those skills so as women it's like when you interact 0.78
00:38:50.600 with most men they've had to learn those skills in order to get to where they
00:38:56.100 want to get but it's interesting because we don't have to learn how to talk to men in a way that
00:39:02.120 they like in fact most people would say that most women sort of speak like men but we're allowed to
00:39:11.220 the men just are not your weird agenda how what agenda is I'm confused though so Charlie I'll say
00:39:21.340 And I want to respond to one person in the comment section about the abortion debate. 0.81
00:39:28.040 You make progress against abortion by shaming women for their lack of discernment and responsibility. 0.93
00:39:34.800 You also teach the Bible in public schools whether they like it or not, accept or reject 1.00
00:39:39.080 at 18.
00:39:39.920 I, too, had this thought process.
00:39:42.480 I thought the exact same thing. 0.99
00:39:44.060 But after interviewing 1,000 women, I would argue that shame does very little to influencing women.
00:39:56.860 I know what they say, but what I have found is even if men shame women for something or other women shame women for something, 0.97
00:40:06.280 there's too many women that coddle each other when we make bad decisions. 0.98
00:40:11.260 And so if we gain weight, look at the comment section of any woman that's gained a ton of weight. 1.00
00:40:16.440 One of the first comments will be women saying that she looks beautiful. 0.99
00:40:21.880 Whenever there's a woman on a podcast saying she slept with a million people, 1.00
00:40:26.040 even when they get social shame, there's still a million women backing them up and saying, no, that's amazing.
00:40:34.240 I don't see that as an effective strategy.
00:40:37.880 i wish it was but i again what i try to do is be as accurate as possible um
00:40:49.320 and think of the best strategies that i can we'll end on this and we'll go to the next question
00:40:55.880 when i was 18 i'm not going to blame you for this i also took for granted a lot of the stuff that
00:41:00.520 the media force fed me because that's what you know at the age of 18. you say there are some vague
00:41:04.760 laws making their way through congress they're hostile to you know how i don't think those
00:41:08.120 laws actually exist but i don't blame you if that's what the cable media is feeding you
00:41:12.520 but let's get to the specifics and then we're able to actually have an open dialogue that's one of
00:41:16.360 the things i've learned over the last 20 years i think that the issue is we're getting our media
00:41:20.760 from different sources both people are getting media from these skewed sources the facts that
00:41:27.560 you're presenting are not always correct and that's why we're here with no tv screens between
00:41:32.440 us so people who have policy-based substantive disagreements we invite those i think that's how
00:41:37.000 we're going to get our country back and as it relates to trans which you brought up 18 or above
00:41:41.160 you're free to live how you want you're not free to force that onto somebody else or especially
00:41:44.840 kids and if we agree on thank you very much progress thank you disagreements yeah i like
00:41:52.120 that it's a very interesting sign this is right in biden i'm intrigued i'm intrigued
00:41:57.880 we can bring we'll bring him up in a little bit
00:42:01.360 okay I think I have to go we have to do a quick show today um but yeah you know it's interesting
00:42:12.120 because you can definitely see the before and after with um Charlie Kirk and Vivek how one has
00:42:19.300 had media training and has learned to change his language to be a little bit more soft where
00:42:24.520 Charlie's a little more direct. To summarize, if conservatives want to push banning abortion,
00:42:35.400 I would suggest not treating us like children. If you think abortion is murder, then the murderers
00:42:43.320 should be held responsible. If you hire a hitman, you still go to jail. It would be the same thing.
00:42:48.660 um I understand why they do it they have to get the female vote so I do think their hands are
00:42:54.940 tied in some way but when it comes to abortion I don't see it becoming illegal in my lifetime I
00:43:03.940 wish it would I wish it was but I just don't see that happening and after interviewing a thousand
00:43:09.080 women I don't think that social shame is overly effective if it was I don't think we would have
00:43:15.000 the society that we have today where we have the most freedom we've ever had and promiscuity is up
00:43:21.680 out of wedlock birth is up marriage is down and the internet exists so there's more opportunity
00:43:28.260 for social shame it just doesn't really happen so let me know what you guys think in the comments
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